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>> It must be very easy to get people to do

your show.

>> Uh well, I mean, yeah, seeing how we

give away millions of dollars, it's

Yeah, usually people are very excited

about it. The actual the only hard part

for us is, you know, if it's a longer

one, just the time off work. So, cuz

sometimes like when we shoot like Beast

Games or stuff, you know, it can go for

a month, but besides the work stuff, of

course.

>> Does it are there people that haven't

been able to do the show cuz they

couldn't get a month off work?

>> Oh, yeah. Tons. Of course. So, we always

have like uh even like the day before,

you know, sometimes people get cold

feet. So, if we're doing something with

a hundred people, we usually have 10

backups just because, you know, the

>> I would imagine that the type of person

that would do your show would have a job

that they could quit.

>> Well, uh yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess it

depends, right? Whether it's the YouTube

channel where we're, you know, doing um,

you know, a h 100 families compete for

$250,000 or it's be scams where they're

competing for 5 million. The 5 million

people are way more excited for. Some of

the, you know, the YouTube videos, it's

not as like grand deal. So, they're

like, uh, I don't know if I want to lose

my job for 1% chance of winning 250K.

So,

>> well, how many people when you do beast

games, how many people are competing?

>> Uh, so the newest season we just shot,

we uh, grabbed one person from uh, every

country on Earth. So, it was around 200.

Yeah. which I was actually pretty cool

because you would put them in these like

crazy games and you'd see how someone

from like the Asian, you know, Pacific

countries would react versus like

someone in South America and they play

and think so differently because they

have such different upbringings. So, it

was really cool.

>> Did you have to I mean, you must have

had to thoroughly vet these people,

right? Make sure they're not insane.

Make sure you have a serial killer.

>> We do the psych and background checks,

of course. No,

>> how do you get that information if

you're going I mean, if you have How

many countries are there? First of all

is 190.

>> We went off of whatever the Olympics do.

So it's like 100 something around 200.

Yeah. Plus or minus a couple.

>> So some of them have to have some shitty

infrastructure.

>> Oh, I mean I think one of them has

literally 40,000 people living in it.

Like it was uh what is it? Not the uh

something Sea Islands, not the Cayman

Islands. It was but some island country.

And yeah, I was like wow. Like my town

which has 100,000 people is two and a

half times the population of your

country. Well, I was joking with the

contestant because I was like, if you

win the $5 million, you could

technically give a $200 dividend to

every single person in your country is

like, it's that crazy. It's that little

people living there.

>> Wow. Yeah,

>> that's the kind of country like I wonder

if you could buy that country.

>> I mean, the GDP is probably, you know, a

couple hundred million dollars if I were

>> guess. Like someone like Elon or

something like that could buy

>> Elon. There's probably thousands of

people in America that could I mean, I

feel bad people from that country

listening that say the country. Okay,

true.

>> We're good. We're good. We didn't say

it.

>> Exactly. It's It's yours.

>> They should know what they are. Yeah.

>> They were They're a country of 40,000

people. That's just what it is. Nothing

wrong with that.

>> But it's uh it it is weird how many

countries there are. And if you've got a

person from every country,

what are the odds you're going to get

good data as to whether or not they're a

criminal? Uh well that's why I mean if

you saw like our budgets on what I have

to spend on casting those people it was

ridiculous to be able to get them all

because basically what we did is we

grabbed multiple options for each

country. And what I was worried about is

that like the contestant from blank

country would suck and then uh the

country would be like Jimmy you hate us

and you purposely picked this you know

absolute [ __ ] So we we would pick two

or three from each country and then we

let people from those countries vote on

who should compete.

>> So it wasn't even one. I had to get

multiple from each. So I think I ended

up spending over a million dollars just

on, you know, aggregating and casting

and background checks and everything and

then putting it out there so people

could vote on it. But that way, you

know, whatever, like Georgia and Europe,

if that guy's an absolute [ __ ] it's on

them. They picked them, you know?

>> Right. That's actually very smart.

>> Exactly.

>> How did you come up with the concept for

this show? Like what? First of all, how

the [ __ ] do you have time to do that

show as well as do your YouTube show?

>> Yeah. Uh, I just don't sleep much during

those because like Beast Games basically

is 30 days of just, you know, 18 hours a

day filming. And so, and for people who

might not have heard of it, it's

essentially the largest cash prize of

any show in the world. Uh, at season

one, we had the most contestants of any

show in the world and the largest sets

of any show ever to exist. And I was

just like, what if you take like a

reality show, but you just ramp

everything up to the absolute maximum.

And like uh like season one, we give

away $22 million just in one season,

right? And you know, some of the biggest

game shows in the world right now give

away $250,000. Like, we're giving away

$2 million every episode. Yeah.

>> Look at that. That's wild. All those

That's so crazy. That set's amazing.

>> And then we we build a city. And so

also,

>> holy [ __ ]

>> My my whole thesis behind it with uh

this is, you know, you when you watch

these, you know, game shows or reality

shows, there's a lot of takeaways and

like after the show, they'll put people

in a room and they'll be like, "Hey,

talk about what happened here." And it's

like intercut. And I was like, well,

what if we just have a thousand cameras

and we just let people be themselves and

we kind of just show it in real time.

So, we also like in season one, we broke

the world record of most cameras ever

used in any production of any movie

show, anything ever. So, like this set

right here, there's over 1,200 cameras

in there

>> and and the most

>> that room is so big.

>> Yeah, it's it's bigger than the football

field. And so, there's a thousand

contestants. We have to have an a cam on

all of them. So, there's like a poll on

each of their platforms on them. Plus,

there's hundreds of cameras in the roof

and blah blah. I think there's over

1,200 here, which outside of this, the

most ever used for production was 400.

So, like I I literally had to and and

this might seem insane, but this is why

I think the show appeals to quite a few

people because normally in a show, they

would have a story producer walk up to

you, hold a camera, and be like, "All

right, you got three minutes. You're

kind of the bad guy. Say roughly along

these lines, almost basically put words

in your mouth, and then they'd go like

person to person with like one camera."

Whereas I go in the microphone, I go,

"Say whatever the hell you want. We're

recording you for the next 10 hours. I

don't care. Right. And you all have a

dedicated camera on you. So then instead

of like putting words in people's

mouths, they can just do whatever they

want.

>> So do you have someone who actually has

to go back and watch all that footage

and edit it and then put it all out as a

show?

>> Yeah, exactly. Well, this is why

>> How many people do you have doing your

editing?

>> Uh that uh season over 150 editors

worked on it. Yeah.

>> Holy [ __ ]

>> It's crazy. And that's obviously why

people don't do it because it's it's

like basically we had to spend millions

of dollars in cameras. It was the world

record for most cameras ever used. Which

then we also broke the world record for

most camera cables used because it's 27

miles of camera cables. Broke the world

record for largest control room. Each of

these is millions of dollars. And you

have to bring in millions of dollars of

extra editors. And so next thing you

know, you know, to take it from 10

cameras where you just essentially put

words in people's mouths to unlimited

cameras and they can do whatever you

want. You can show who they actually are

as opposed to what you think they should

be. Right. With a story producer, it

costs a lot of money. It's a lot of

effort and time, but it shows through in

the final product because now, you know,

you get more natural like less scripted

things when people are just themselves.

>> You have a great ability to like see the

big picture and a a great ability to put

together things regardless of what the

budget is, like regardless of how much

money you're going to make to do the

best product. Like I always thought that

about you when you were doing when you

first started doing your YouTube show.

I'm like the amount of money and time

and effort involved in this is like

above and beyond what most people are

willing to do. Y

>> and it's it's way more than a

traditional television network where

would ever do because a traditional

television network would look at the

upside. They would look at the money and

they would go, "We're going to spend X

amount of money to make it this much

better, but if we just take it down a

couple notches, we save 80%."

>> Yeah.

>> And they would do that, but you're like,

"Can we make it even cooler? let's put

all the money back into the show which

is very risky man because not just very

risky. Um it's just very you have great

foresight like you really see the big

picture of it. Obviously you have the

number one show in the world like you

have the most watched show on earth you

know your YouTube show is the most

watched show on planet earth

>> so it's obviously working but it's like

that ability to take like to make that

set must have been bananas. That is a

[ __ ] enormous building. Did you have

to build the building?

>> Uh no. So that that's in Toronto, but

it's basically an airport hanger. I

mean, we spent months trying to figure

out how we could make this. That also is

like a thousand trap doors because every

single one of those the trap doors open

when they get eliminated. So that set

alone was like $15 million. I mean, it

was crazy. Go and thousands of people's

time and stuff like that. It's actually

when where we film Beast Games, it's

actually a pretty big deal because it

creates so many local jobs for people.

So Oh, I'm sure.

>> Yeah. Like there it was like pretty wild

every time.

>> Can you say where you film it or you

keep it under wraps? That one was

Toronto, Canada. Um, and uh, every time

I'd walk around on set, people were

loving it because even though we filmed

for 30 days, there's months leading up

to it and months after. So, it gives

people like consistent work for 6

months, whereas like before they're

going project to project every week. But

yeah, back on the going above and

beyond, that's kind of my my whole thing

is like why make content that isn't

great? And uh, we just ask ourselves how

do we make the best content possible as

opposed to, you know, how do we make the

most money possible? Um, and when you

just shockingly go in with that

approach, you just kind of make a lot of

money. Yeah. And uh, well, and also it's

uh, I tell my team all the time too,

like a big difference between us and

other media companies is, you know, um,

usually like people at the top will

always shoot down crazy ideas or tell

you it's not possible. Like whenever you

have like these crazy brainstorming

sessions, and I tell the team,

technically anything's possible. If as

humans we really wanted to, we could

technically blow up the moon with enough

nukes. Now, we're not going to do it

because it's not worth the time and it's

not worth spending the money. But you

have to have that frame of mind.

Everything's for the most part possible

if you're willing to spend the time and

spend the money. So, before you do the

work and to figure out what time it

takes and how much money it costs, you

can't say no to something because almost

all the time like we we filmed in the

pyramids and I spent 100 hours living in

the pyramids of Egypt. It was [ __ ]

awesome. And uh you know, for years

everyone's like they're not going to let

you you know live in the pyramids for a

couple days. Like that's crazy. And I'm

like why not? like did you get a no from

the you know the leader of Egypt? No.

Then I'm like well technically it's

possible you know and and after years of

of talking with them and helping them

understand that you know it's going to

be more of an educational type video and

it's not like I'm not going to run up

the pyramids and take my shirt off and

be like a lunatic. It'll be really cool.

Um eventually they came around to it and

they loved the video and it worked

really well and it's literally like I

could go anywhere in the pyramids for

100 hours. I went all the way up to the

top of the the middle pyramid. We went

underneath it. It was it was really

cool. And I like tell my team it's like,

you know, even some of my most veteran

people when we get these crazy ideas,

their default reaction always is to go,

I just don't think it's possible. And I

I go, "Look, it is. Sometimes it's it's

just time and money, you know, and is it

worth the effort?"

>> The pyramid one must have been nuts.

>> Oh, it was crazy. It was one of my

favorite videos.

>> Is that your first time ever being

there?

>> Uh, yeah, actually it was. And so that

made it even more special cuz I was like

learning things at the the same time as

I was just walking around. And um I'm

I'm going to be honest, it was like a

year and a half ago and it's like all a

little fuzzy because I was like so

tired. I was just walking around all

night. But it was pretty crazy and

surreal. And then going down into what's

that tomb called where you go down the

ladder and um like couple hundred feet

uh underneath the pyramid.

>> I don't know. Is that Osiris's sh?

>> Yes. Yes. Osiris's. Yeah. And then uh it

was like flooded and swimming around

under there. It was pretty wild.

>> Yeah.

>> Wow.

>> I feel like you should do something like

that

>> 100%. I I need to go there. I've been

talking about going there for years. I

just for me it's just the time thing. My

time is I so many different jobs. It's

not like one all-consuming job like you

have. With me it's like

>> commentary for the UFC, doing standup

comedy, doing the podcast, and also

married with children. It's like I have

a lot of responsibilities. So, it's

tough to just jet off for a mo. Ideally,

if you're going to go to Egypt, I feel

like you should go for like 10 days.

Yeah. I feel like at least 10 days. Do

you think the Yeah, I feel like they

maybe honestly realistically like five

days you could do it and and like I'm

curious though if they'd let you just

like do a video where you walk around

and go everywhere because

>> I wonder.

>> Yeah, you cuz

>> I've talked a lot of [ __ ]

>> Exactly. So without saying it, I'm kind

of implying I don't even know if they

want you there. Well, I never have said

anything bad about it about it. I just

think that the people that run it have a

very uh narrow-minded perspective of how

all that stuff was made. And I don't I

think I don't think they really know.

And I think there's uh a lot of uh

gatekeeping in terms of, you know, what

the official narrative is like how it

was all made and who made it and what

what it's all about. That's why they're

really um hesitant to accept any

alternative perspectives because they

have a timeline and they attribute all

this construction and there's a lot of

evidence that that timeline doesn't make

any sense. Yeah.

>> Like did did you check out the Sphinx?

>> Uh yeah. And you can you know you can go

underneath it and go in that little

room.

>> Yeah. Did you do that?

>> Yeah. Which that's the stuff I I feel

like it would mean even more if you did.

You've talked to Dr. Zahi, right? Yeah.

Did you have him on the show?

>> Yeah. Yeah, I had him on the show. Yeah.

Okay, good. Yeah. And so, yeah, he's

obviously the guy, so you should just

call him and see.

>> Yeah, I'd rather go with somebody else.

I'd rather

>> I didn't listen to that episode, did

>> I'd rather go hang out with one of the

historians that I know.

>> Graham Hancock.

>> Yeah, Graham Hancock would be the

perfect guy to go with.

>> Yeah, you and Graham Hancock walking

around. Oh, boy. That there'd be some

crazy stuff. So,

>> yeah. Well, whatever happened in that

part of the world during that time frame

is pretty spectacular. And it's kind of

amazing that no one has ever achieved

anything even remotely similar to it

since. Yeah.

>> And it's at least 4,500 years old.

That's just a guess, though. They really

don't know.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, it's it's crazy place. The

fact that you got to film a show there

is nuts.

>> Yeah. I love how you call a show and to

me it's just a YouTube video, but it's

just funny.

>> It's a show.

>> Yeah. I know. Of course. And it makes

sense because you do stuff with the UFC

and then you're old a lot of it's called

shows, but

>> I mean whatever it is is people are

watching it.

>> Yeah, I know. It's just it's just funny.

It's to me u I haven't heard it called

that in years. Um but yeah, that that

one was crazy. And I mean one thing that

I'm really proud of that we did uh for

season 3 of Beast Games, which

>> I like in hindsight, I'm not even sure

how we this one we pulled off. So I I

want to see your reaction to this. So,

um, basically the finale where we have

the $5 million, we have the final

contestants. We, uh, filmed it in the

Roman coliseum.

>> Whoa.

>> Yeah. We we crowned the winner of season

3 with the $5 million cash prize in the

middle of the Roman coliseum. Played

played the first game there in over a

thousand years.

>> Wow. That's crazy.

>> I know. I'm I'm so grateful. I I like We

just filmed that, too. So I'm like

coming off the high and I just like like

it almost makes like br gives me tears.

Like what we shot was so cool. We had

like a a live orchestra at like the top

ring of there too. So like as the game

got dramatic, we would have them like

play louder music and stuff. It was like

so surreal. Like there's multi because

I've done really crazy things in my

life, but there's multiple moments

during that where I'm just like looking

around in the middle of the coliseum as

we're like filming the show and I'm like

like this doesn't feel real. It was

pretty wild. It doesn't feel I I mean I

went just to visit a few years back and

it didn't feel real. It's so strange to

imagine like what what that was like.

>> Yeah.

>> You know how many thousand years ago?

Two what when what year were they doing

the games in the Roman coliseum?

>> I would guess 1900 years ago.

>> So

I mean what the [ __ ] was it like being

in there while that was happening?

>> And imagine when they flood it and

they'd have to sh like whoa. I know.

>> Crazy.

>> I know.

>> It's just It's nuts that you could go

walk around it and just try to

understand like this used to be a place

where people used to go to see people

die.

>> They used to see see people get hacked

to death by swords, to see people get

killed by lions. Like what the [ __ ] were

>> Well, it's also interesting too because

I did a lot of research, you know,

before we filmed there. And it was also

did a good job of you know back then

they had like the hierarchy and like the

noble people would sit at the bottom and

the poor people be at the top and it

also played like a good role of like

showcasing unity even though there were

all these different people from all

these different you know economic

statuses they would all be in the arena

there but it also remind them where they

are and there's like so many political

implications of it too and so just

everything about it

>> like basketball games

>> right who gets courtside tickets

>> I didn't even I didn't even think about

that yet

>> Jack Nicholson courtside

famous people. Yeah. Courtside tickets.

>> True.

>> Yeah. I mean, it's the same thing. I

think in the coliseum though, that was

the most dangerous seats because like

there was a couple of incidents, I

believe, when either a lion or a tiger

leapt up and got a hold of some people.

Yeah. Well, I I didn't hear about that,

but when I was walking around, you know,

they would have the, you know, uh,

emperor like seat right there, and I was

like, man, if I was the warrior, I could

throw a spear at him. like this is like

this is a killer view, but like how did

no one ever just kill this guy, you

know? It was I was like a that's all I

could think about. I was like this is a

little too close to the battlefield.

>> How close is it?

>> Uh it was like whatever four rows up. It

wasn't like anything too crazy. Uh but

like there's like obviously walls when

you're walking around like little walls

so you can't just, you know, walk into

the stands. So So they're like kind of

trapped in the arena. But it was

definitely within spear throwing

distance. I wonder how long it took to

build that place. Cuz when you're

walking around like this is an epic

piece of real estate. Like you guys

built like an insane structure and they

did it, you know, almost 2,000 years ago

or whatever it was.

>> Yeah.

>> So it took eight years to build.

>> Wow.

>> From AD72 to AD80.

>> Yeah.

>> Wow. Construction started under

uh Vespasian

between AD70 and 72. It was completed

and inaugurated under Emperor Emperor

Titus around AD79 to 80. So the main

build phase lasted roughly 6 to 8 years.

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>> Yeah, it's it's fascinating, too, cuz I

like to think of like uh something

equivalent now would be like maybe SoFi

Stadium. Like that's such a beautiful

massive stadium. And I wonder if like

2,000 years from now, would that still

be there? Like Roman coliseum's like

>> relatively still intact. It's pretty

crazy.

>> That's what's crazy. Well, it's because

it's made out of stone. All of our stuff

like cement will rot out. There's no way

cement lasts a thousand years. All the

glass, all the everything will just get

absorbed back into the earth.

>> Dang.

>> Do you ever see that show? They had a

show like what was it on the History

Channel or something like that where it

was uh after humans, I think it was

called, and it it essentially showed how

long it would take for cities to

completely be absorbed back into the

earth.

>> It's not that long.

>> It's not that long. No, it's like a few

hundred years and there's nothing left.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. actually seems like a good show.

>> Yeah, it was kind of interesting. You

know, it was a while ago, so it was

probably like shitty AI. It was shitty

CGI. They could probably do it really

good now. Yeah.

>> But I mean,

>> if you go to Detroit, there's houses in

Detroit now that have trees growing out

of the the the basement of the house

through the roof. Yeah.

>> Like they've they've taken over the

house and nature is slowly but surely

absorbing the building. And then

skyscrapers are a bigger endeavor, but

they could still nature could still do

it. It just takes enough time.

>> That makes me where my brain goes to is

it makes me want to do a video where

it's like I bet you there's like a

abandoned uh village or city that's been

overgrown and like doing a video titled

like last human on Earth simulation and

then like living there for a month or so

and and seeing what it's like. That'd be

kind of cool. Kind of like the Will

Smith movie back in the day,

>> right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

>> that'd be so fascinating like to uh or

maybe do it like with a contestant like

hey if you spend one month you know in

this like isolated uh civilization like

I'll give you a million dollars or

something and then seeing how they like

you know use you know hundred-y old

buildings or something. I don't know.

It's got my my brain turning.

>> Oh, it's not a bad idea. Like an I am

legend type deal.

>> Yeah. But real unscripted. Exactly.

>> Right. Real unscripted. But then also

hire people to be zombies and haunt

these people while they're sleeping

brain goes.

>> You know what I mean?

>> Yeah. hire hire people like CGI them up,

scare the [ __ ] out of people.

>> I've been wanting to do that for a

while, but I always get like hung up on

like, okay, we I can make some real

zombies, but the problem is like, how do

they kill them? And then, you know,

>> well, the other problem is what happens

if you if you're not telling these

contestants that zombies are coming?

You're just trying to get a reaction out

of them. What if this guy thinks it's a

real zombie and kills one of the people?

>> Yeah. Well, I we would tell I would have

to say this is a zombie simulation and

you know and then I'd have to set rules

on here's how you kill a zombie. You

don't use a sword, you use this bump and

it's lame, which is why we never got

around to it. But if there ever was a

way, I do think that would be cool to

like recreate a actual zombie apocalypse

and and like let someone try to live in

for a week because it just be cool cuz

everyone's exposure to this is through

scripted shows. But to see someone like

truly live in an unscripted one where we

build rundown gas stations and there's

like food that like we would say this is

set in the year60. So I'd have set

designers and everything design it where

it like only Laffy Taffy is still edible

and stuff and it is like a true

recreation of it. I I've always wanted

to do stuff like that.

>> You could totally do that. There's a

bunch of abandoned towns.

>> No, it's just the one thing we could

never figure out is how does someone

kill a zombie and it's not lame, right?

Because imagine someone with a Nerf

sword hitting a zombie. Now it's like,

okay, this is [ __ ] lame, you know?

>> Yeah. Uh,

>> it may be a paintball type deal.

>> Yeah. And that's where our head goes cuz

we're uh we have a different video,

similar thing. But the problem with

paintball and airsoft is then you have

to wear a mask, right? Because you don't

want people to get shot in the face

obviously and then it kind of kills it

>> or Yeah. Unless the zombie masks

>> were was the protection.

>> Yeah. We put it over top of the people

mask. That's that's poor poor actors.

They're going to

>> Or you just have instead of like a

regular paintball mask, have something

that's just a hard structure that is

like your the shape of your face. So you

make it form fits to your face and then

you know you give them goggles,

something clear so their eyes are

protected and then you do all the makeup

on top of it.

>> Yeah. You know what? I should hit you up

for these zombie things. I could

>> That actually would There you go.

Exactly. That perfect. That's an airsoft

mask.

>> That that that'd be pretty cool. I mean

>> Oh, dude. That's actually dope. Look at

those masks. The the half-faced zombie

ones.

>> Yeah,

>> that's [ __ ] dope. Like you could That

would be terrifying coming at you in the

middle of the night.

>> If anyone listening wants to live in an

abandoned town for 10 days while zombies

try to kill you.

>> I think we're on to something now. Now

that I saw those masks, I'm like, "Okay,

I like it." Cuz that could be the

zombies.

>> Well, where my head goes, because the

videos are so big, right? This is

probably a five10 million dollar

project. probably would build this

abandoned city, do I'm the last man on

the planet and it's like me there for

some time and then afterwards like a

couple months like film then right

afterwards film a video where I give

someone a million dollars they live

there for 10 days but they have to fend

off zombies with their friends so then

we can reuse the set location cuz if I'm

going to completely set deck basically a

whole city oh my gosh that's going to be

a monster but yeah if I did both those

back to back that'd actually be pretty

pretty gnarly and worth the effort. I

think I like the idea now. Yeah.

>> Now that I see those masks and I think

about like paintball or something along

those lines.

>> Well, what I'm picturing too is like

ideally we could find a city with a

skyscraper cuz I want like someone with

a long lens pointed down of like someone

pictured them on a street. It's pitch

black and they have like a fire and it's

them and their three friends and you

know then they hear noise and zombies

and stuff like those shots would be so

beautiful like that. I mean that it

would probably be one of the most

beautiful videos ever. And I'm picturing

we put like vines like on all the

buildings and stuff too. So,

>> well, if you wanted no one around, it's

going to be hard because you're going to

have to do in an abandoned place.

>> Exactly.

>> And you're not going to get an abandoned

skyscraper.

>> Maybe. So,

>> unless you're in Detroit.

>> Well, we also It doesn't have to be in

the US. We did a video 7 days in an

abandoned city where there's like uh

some place in Europe where there was a

city that was like war torn and stuff

like that and it had like hotels and

tall buildings and everything. It was

pretty pretty wild. So, really? Yeah. I

>> And there's no one in it now?

>> No, no one in it. But like tourists go

there or whatever, but they they let us

close it off for a week. It was pretty

crazy.

>> Well, that's the place then.

>> Yeah. I just wonder if they'll, you

know, it's a little bit history there,

so I doubt they'll let me go in and like

set deck everything like crazy. But

>> and also paintball everything.

>> Exactly. Yeah. Well, with those masks,

we could do airsoft, which would be

maybe even easier. Well, actually, no.

The problem with airsoft then is the

trust system. You don't know if they got

hit. So, paintball is probably more

effective.

>> Yeah. You need a paintball. Yeah. You

need paintball and it needs to look good

when it splatters against them.

>> I I just, you know, if someone on my

team's watching this, just clip the last

10 minutes of this and send it to the

creative team. I got you guys. I believe

in you.

>> Is there another way to kill a zombie

other than paintball? That would be

wild. Like, is there something else? Um,

well, one thing we've been working on

because we're we I've always wanted to

like do Hunger Games in real life as

well is so like these like suits where

you could, you know, electronic like uh

laser tag where you could just shoot and

and then it just like lights up. So,

what about shotguns with bean bags,

you know, cuz they use those for people

to like take out like uh when the

non-lethal loads, you know, they have

like bean bags that they shoot out of a

shotgun. The question I would need is

like if if I shot you with it like 3 ft

away, would you still be fine? If I I

guess you could probably adjust the

pressure and stuff where it's not

>> not really.

>> Okay. Well,

>> I mean, you could, but you couldn't bury

it, you know.

>> See, this isn't Fear Factor. This is Mr.

Beast.

>> I understand. But can you the gray It's

a gray line.

>> You know, it's so funny. I need to give

you a blunt and let you just help me

click on this video. I I can see this.

>> There's something there. You just have

to figure out an exciting way to kill

them where it doesn't actually hurt the

stunt people or whoever's wearing the

masks, whoever pretends to be a zombie.

It would have to be something. I was

thinking light him on fire. But that's

>> Could you pull up the seven days

abandoned city video? I and just skip to

some random part. I'd love for him to

see like the like how it looks because

that with what you're picturing and that

really would be something you can't find

anywhere else. And that's what like gets

me excited is when it's content you

can't find anywhere else. That's

typically, you know, a huge indicator

that if it's done well, people like it.

>> Have you seen the show from

>> from I don't think so. No,

>> it's great. Great show, but it's about

these people.

>> Wait, look at that shot. Pause it right

there. Look like like or

so that's just one random building, but

you can maybe go to the intro or

something if you want to just show them

like Yeah. This whole place like look at

these buildings.

>> Wow. Oh my god. This is perfect.

>> Yeah. And then like Yeah. If you pause

it there, those are all the buildings in

the city of I mean

>> Oh, dude. This is the spot. Listen, the

show starts at sundown every night,

>> okay?

>> As soon as the sun goes down, that's

when the games begin. It does. Nothing

happens until it gets dark out.

>> Everything is in the dark.

>> And these people have no idea when it's

going to happen, when they're going to

get hit, and so they try to get their

sleep whenever they can. But you keep

them awake during the day with tasks.

You keep them away. So dur during the

day they they have all sorts of

materials, they have supplies, they have

all sorts of things and they have to

figure out how to protect themselves,

how to develop shelter, alarm systems

for when the zombies are close. They you

give them Yeah. Give them time to like

figure out stuff to do to keep the

zombies away and a limited amount of

materials that they can work with and

just let these people get creative and

their ingenuity. But then you keep so

that they'll be busy during the day. So

they're not going to be able to sleep.

So at night time when it gets dark out.

Yeah. Then they don't know when it's

going to hit. So you have these people

sitting around and it might be 7:00 p.m.

8:00 p.m. 900 p.m. and then 3 in the

morning [ __ ] starts.

>> 30 zombies coming and they got to shoot

them all paint

>> and they're creeping in. Like they're

creeping in.

>> Bro, you're getting me excited. I mean,

it would be so [ __ ] cool to like let

them build a a structure or something

and then like in Iron Legend where he

has to point the lights cuz they hate

lights. But like at night time like

they'll have to we can uh hide lights

throughout the city that they'd have to

collect and then set up so they have

good vision around their fort and

everything and then they have like, you

know, cycles where they take turns

watching and stuff. And then we only

send the zombies out theoretically at

night or whatever the structure would

be. So they have chill time or maybe

every night 40 zombies are unleashed and

then so they're like they shot like 35

of them but they're like oh [ __ ] there's

five hidden around the city. So that day

while they're walking around they're

like on edge and the tension throughout

the day would be phenomenal. Yeah.

There's so many cool ways to do it

>> and you know you don't have to tell them

that the zombies are only going to come

out at night.

>> Yeah.

>> Just have it that way.

>> I'm excited. We need to stop talking

about this cuz I'm going to leave and go

film it, right? And then

>> I'm I'm fighting the urge to go call my

team. This is

>> You also with the zombies, they can come

out in the daytime. Just these people

don't know because they never do it.

>> True. Like the first five days it's only

at night and then day six. Exactly. So

So people get snatched up in the middle

of their house.

>> This company we used before as Gel

Blaster, it's almost like airsoft but it

doesn't hurt as bad.

>> Oh, it shoots water. And these vests

that they have set up are sensors so you

can almost like what you're saying. It's

like VR laser tag

>> so it lights up when you hit it.

>> Yeah. And there's like a little talking

system that says like you have this many

shots left. You have this much.

>> Can we see a video?

>> Yeah. Is this a video?

>> We did this at night at somebody's

house.

>> Oh, you did?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> When did you do this?

>> A couple months ago.

>> Oh, nice.

>> I don't Oh, [ __ ] It's only coming out.

>> Ah, wait. Actually, now that you music,

but you pointed out I have seen like

Nerf gel blasters. I actually never

thought of that.

>> So that I mean you could just redo the

set the suits so it makes sense.

>> Yeah. And then reskin the guns cuz those

look a little lame. But yeah, that would

be

>> it's kind of lame.

>> I kind of like shotguns with bean bags.

>> I think I could easily picture the

aesthetic you're looking for. I got to I

have to find the blend between Joe's

like recreation of this video and like

what I could actually do. But there I

actually am more inspired than ever. I

think it's very doable.

>> It's very doable. You just have to

figure out a way to make it exciting but

still not hurt anybody.

>> Exactly.

>> Not hurt the zombies. You'd have to like

armor these people up somehow.

>> I mean, well, the the thing too is like,

you know, um, one way one thing that

would help is like if the zombies were

ex-Navy Seals or something, then it's a

little different than if they were like

typical Hollywood actors and things like

that, which so I've learned for like

some of these other things, like it's

also who you cast into it. Like, you

know, the Navy if it was like Navy Seals

dressed up as zombies and I paid them

all, you know, they wouldn't care. It

also it could well it could be like a

zombie army like an army

some some army somewhere got

taken over and turned into zombies

>> and those are the people you're fighting

against. So you could you could put them

with like plate carriers on and you know

you you could armor them up a little bit

so they could take some hits.

>> Have some lore behind it. Yeah.

>> Yeah. You could it would make sense too.

I'm I bro I'm sold. I just got to find

an abandoned city.

>> Give them glowing eyes. That's the only

way you know that.

>> This whole podcast is gonna be Joe

helping me figure out how to do zombies.

It's

>> Dude, it would be [ __ ] terrifying.

Imagine just people that are in like

this city. There's no lights, there's no

electricity, and then at night time it

goes dark. And maybe they have

flashlights, but each flashlight only

has like one hour of battery life. And

so you have to like judiciously use that

flashlight throughout the evening. Shine

it around.

>> You shut it off, you know. So you give

like a little extra tension that the

flashlight's going to die because you

only have one hour of flashlight

battery.

>> Yeah.

>> And then you see these red eyes

>> like you give them like a a slightly

glowing red eye.

>> Yeah.

>> And that's how you can find the zombies.

>> True. That would be cool.

>> So you just look out into the woods like

you see the [ __ ] eyes, man. You see

the eyes?

>> That would be crazy. Yeah.

>> And the other thing too would be cuz I I

go to like how do we execute it? We

could do it too where like there's like

a every day at like a certain period we

we pull off all the dead zombies which

are humans and we just swap them with

like uh I can have recreated versions of

them there. So there's like actual

zombie bodies like piling up and things

like that. So as the video progresses

they're like literally stepping over

like mannequins that are set decked

identically how the the people were so

when they die and then they're just like

literally stepping on zombies as they go

building to building. That would be

crazy. That would be crazy,

>> you know. And actually, because if I put

a million

>> chalk outlines around the zombies

>> so you can identify the fact that this

one's a dead zombie.

>> Uh, or no, don't screw it. You know, let

that be the fun part. But then we if we

put like a crazy prize on it, we could

do you only get the pri or maybe the

prize is split amongst everyone who

survives the whole 10 days or whatever.

And then it's like to really build up

like this crescendo at the end, we could

have it where the final day there's a

massive invasion coming or something. So

it's like the whole time it's what if

like every day more and more camp. So

day one it was 10, day two it was 20 and

then 50 and then I'm like you know we're

going to have 400 zombies come on the

final day. So the whole video they're

prepping for this like Game of Thrones

type invasion. Not only that, but the

people that get killed by the zombie, we

think they're out of the game, but they

actually become zombies. So when you

think you won at the end, now the final

game is you're competing against the

zombies. the zombies who can't win

because they're already dead, but they

make you lose.

>> Yeah. And they know you're for it. You

know what actually be even crazier is if

if instead of Well, you know, maybe we

have Navy Seals as the zombies, but also

what if the contestants are like ex-Navy

Seals, too, so they have like real

strategy and stuff like that. That would

be cool.

>> Just get the most badass people that you

can get for this zombie thing. Like

survivalists,

>> martial artists, like

be crazy, dude.

>> Actually, that's not bad. like a, you

know, a UFC champion, uh, Navy Seal,

like Taekwond do, blah, blah, blah. And

it's like, all right, what happens if

you put six experts in different fields

together and simulate a real zombie

apocalypse? You have 50 acres of this

abandoned city sealed off. We set decked

it all and every day a wave of zombie

that gets bigger and bigger until the

big crescendo at the end hits. And if

you survive it all, you split a million

dollars.

>> I think the the really difficult

challenge is figuring out a way to kill

zombies that's not lame.

>> Exactly. And it doesn't hurt anybody.

>> Actually doesn't kill people.

>> I love how that's your your second

thought process. But of course,

>> but it has to because if you're hitting

them even with a gel soft, it look kind

of cool, but it's likew

I could add those sounds in post, but

we're big fans of practical. So, I'd

have my team take apart the guns and see

if there's some way they can make it

even though it's shooting the gel, like

make it go bang bang and then add like

the effects and and we'd have to reskin

the guns to look like real guns. It

would have to be some. It doesn't have

to look like real guns cuz it could look

be a gun from the future, you know?

>> Yeah, that's lame. When you think of

zombie apocalypse, you think it has to

look like a gun that they grab from some

dude's tape that they found in a house,

right? That's what a zombie apocalypse

is to me.

>> Yeah, I guess.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. So, it would have to look like a

real gun. So, that's why I like the

shotguns with the bean bags. And also

with a shotgun, like you're only going

to get so many shells. Like you like as

long as you don't have one of those big

like taran tactical ones that has

actually a magazine. You can hold like

15 rounds. If you can I think a regular

shotgun like a Benelli. What can you

put? How many shells can you put in one

of those? I think six. I think maybe

six. Something like that is good too.

You have a limited amount of bullets and

reloading is hard. We just got to find

out. Like maybe if it was like 20 gauge

maybe if it was like 20 gauge shotgun

like bird shot with with a bean bag.

Maybe that wouldn't [ __ ] people up but

it would make a big bang.

>> Yeah.

>> And you'd be hitting them and if you

could find a way to light up wherever

they got hit. Like if you could put them

in some sort of a suit where when they

get hit there's like gel packs.

>> There's no way you can shoot shotguns at

people. Yeah. There's just not poss.

He's living in his utopia. Let him I

haven't seen his eyes light up like this

in years. Let him let him

like a gun at a person.

>> Okay. I don't know a lot about shotguns,

so let's um find out.

>> I'm never going to have someone point a

real shotgun at someone else, but yeah.

>> Yeah, you will.

>> Trust me. We're going to we're going to

work this out.

>> Oh, you want to you want to help

co-direct it? I want to help.

>> Yeah. You'll see you'll accidentally see

in like the background of one shot Joe

like he's like yeah it's like the Navy

Seals are fighting off the zombie

apocalypse. I want to be one zombie one

night. I'll sneak in.

>> Everyone's like, "Who's that bald guy

over there?" That's just a

>> [ __ ] yeah.

>> Shotgun damage on a zombie. You have to

blow their head off, right? How would

you

>> Oh god. Get him started. He's going to

be talking about hit damage for 20

minutes forever.

>> Well, it depends on what kind of zombie.

Like Walking Dead zombies are so stupid.

You can stab in the head with a pencil

and they die. Remember, it was just

going through the head cuz they would

shoot him with those crossbows and like

crossbow wouldn't even kill a person

like with those field tips. They're

using field tips. This is basically like

a pencil going through you. It's not

like a broadhead. Like if you shot an

animal with a with a crossbow, you would

use a broadhead, which is a big sharp

blade that cuts a giant channel through

an animal. What those things are using

is target points. Like that dude in

Walking Dead, it would drive me nuts cuz

he would shoot them in the hand. It

would just stick in their head and then

they'd be dead.

>> It's so funny cuz get the [ __ ] out of

here.

>> I I watch the same thing and I'm like,

"Oh, that's cool." Different audience.

Well, it's just all it takes is like one

arrow to go into your head and you're

dead if you're a zombie.

>> Yeah, totally. One arrow in the [ __ ] is

this is nonsense.

>> Yeah, right. Guys, watch. Yeah. One

arrow in the head, you'd be Yeah, you

wouldn't die.

>> The thing is, people have lived humans

have lived through arrows through the

head like that, accidentally gotten shot

in the head with a with a bow and arrow

with a a field tip and lived cuz it

basically just it's like a pencil going

through your head. Really? The way

people die from an arrow is hemorrhage.

you die from massive hemorrhage and it's

usually because there's a blade. So like

this like this is what the Native

Americans used to use.

>> But that that's

>> this is actually Yes, that's that's an

actual arrow head. But the thing about

this is when it's attached to a stick,

this is cutting.

>> So it's causing hemorrhage inside the

body. The little field tip doesn't do

that.

>> And the field tip wouldn't puncture

enough veins where you just bleed to

death.

>> Maybe, but most likely not. I mean, if

it went through your heart, yeah, you'd

be dead. But if it just goes through

like this side of your lungs and pokes

out your back, you'll live.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah.

>> Would you want to live?

>> You would be in pain. It would suck.

>> Yeah,

>> it would certainly suck. But it's not

like getting hit with a broadhead. My

point is I don't remember my point, but

if I had a point, it would be got to be

a level of shotgun. That's the What is

the lowest powered shotgun available?

It's not a I I know 20 gauge is light.

I've used those before for like shooting

clay pigeons and I've used 12 gauges.

You don't want to get hit with a 12

gauge, even if it's a bean bag.

>> 10.

>> Uh,

>> smallest gauge equivalent to a 67 GAUGE

SHOTGUN.

>> OH, there we go. Now we're talking.

That's a [ __ ] ass round.

>> Oh god.

>> Let's see what that looks like. You're

so

>> shoot a Let's Let's see what a 410 gauge

shotgun or 67 gauge shotgun looks like

when they shoot like a [ __ ] gun. It

looks like it's going to still hurt.

>> No, no, no. You'll be fine.

>> Okay. Can I test it on you?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Just give me a plate carrier

and if you're going to use a bean bag.

Yeah. Cuz that's what I'm thinking. Like

if you have a chest plate, you know, so

a plate carrier is bulletproof.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. But what are you going to hit?

Everything you'll cover up. You'll cover

up the shoulders and the arms. You give

them like military style armor, like

body armor

>> because it's not a it's not none of this

is gonna penetrate. So, if it's a bean

bag round, what it is is just like it's

basically a bag that's going to like

>> shoot out of the shotgun and blast you.

But I don't They're not lethal.

>> Um, let me see what it looks like.

>> I don't know which one I'm

>> uh just go to a video just go to a video

of lowest powered shotgun. Oh, that's

>> that's weird looking. That's cool. That

one looks cool.

>> That one does not exactly what that's a

revolver shotgun.

>> Yeah, that's dope. I've never seen one

of those before.

>> Power it says.

>> Interesting.

>> Yeah, the smallest but deadliest shot.

>> Yeah, I think it's smallest in terms of

like the size of it, not uh not the

round itself.

>> Yeah, this isn't I did ask for lowest

powered, but it's that's not what people

want to click on videos.

>> I know. I feel like most people who buy

shotguns are looking for shotguns that

don't

>> Well, how about this? Look up 67 gauge

shotgun.

>> I had done that here.

>> And does it show you a video of that?

Okay, let's see what it says. Let me see

what it looks like when it's shooting.

>> It says it's 12 gauge.

>> Oh, that's a big

>> Yeah, that's I'm trying to They're like

modified 12 gauges.

>> That's a lot.

>> I just don't What the point? The shotgun

isn't going to kill a zombie.

>> Yeah, but it could in this game, Jamie.

>> I know. You have to get so close to get

a [ __ ] head shot or whatever. See,

it's more fun to like get snipers and

grenades and

>> I don't know if you have to use head

shot.

>> This little kid's going to shoot a

shotgun.

>> Yes.

>> So that Okay, let me see. Can you give

me some volume?

Let me hear this. Put back that up a

little bit.

>> Yeah, that's what we need. We need that

kind of shotgun with like a bean bag

round or rock salt.

>> I got it. The team, they're listening.

They're on it.

>> Yeah. Something where it makes an

impact. There's a sound like a gun going

off, but you can't really kill anybody

with it.

>> Yeah.

>> This is totally possible, dude. You'd

have to have like very strict safety

protocols in the set, though. Because

one of the things when I was in uh when

I first moved to LA in like 1994, there

was a guy that a friend of mine actually

knew who was an actor who was on a set

who uh took a gun that had a blank in it

and thought it'd be funny to just put

the thing to his head and pull the

trigger. And he didn't realize that just

the actual air coming out of the gun, if

you put it right to your head, is

lethal. And he blew his brains out.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> Yeah. With a blank. He just didn't

>> I mean or like the Alec Baldwin

situation.

>> Yeah, that was actually probably

negligence because it seems like

>> it seems like there was an error where

they were using like real rounds and uh

then they would take the same guns. They

would use like real rounds on a range

and take the same guns and bring them to

set and they didn't clear everything.

>> So, I don't know who's responsible for

that. I don't know what ultimately came

out of that, but you're never supposed

to point a gun, even if it's not loaded.

You're never supposed to point a gun at

someone ever. In movies now, like if you

were, you

>> I'm like so hesitant to this whole

shotgun thing. Welcome back to reality,

Joe.

>> We're going to be fine. In movies,

you're supposed to like if I was

shooting at you in a movie, I'm really

supposed to shoot over here. And I think

that came out of the movie The Crow

>> because uh Bruce Lee's son died because

there was something that was in the gun

itself. It wasn't even a bullet that

killed him. It was like there was a

particle or something that hit him from

the blank.

>> Well, there's effects in CG and

everything's so good now, too. Like, you

probably don't even have to put a blank

in there. You just overlay the sound

effect and I mean, put the effect in. No

one would even be able to tell

sometimes, too.

>> That's true. But you want something

that's scary for the actual people

>> and the recoil and stuff. Yeah. So it's

it's more real

>> like a really light shotgun.

>> And I guess even if you know it's a

blank like having a gun pointed at you

as an actor makes you, you know, feel

more in this situation too probably.

>> Well, just rock salt. If you have a

really light shotgun, even if it's a 20

gauge with rock salt, it would suck. It

would sting. But if you've got these

guys all protected

>> and you could find a way where when it

hits them, like you have gel packs on

them or something. So if you have them

all, they're in like these like tattered

looking white outfits, right? And when

you hit them, there's red gel packs

underneath and they splatter.

>> Yeah.

>> And you could, you know, if you get a

direct

>> We did something similar when we

recreated Squid Games. We put like

squibs on them when they got eliminated

and blew up. And so Yeah. You would put

like little squibs and then when the

sensors went off it would just and the

liquid would go across your body. Yeah.

>> Yeah. So you could do that. So if you do

that actually you could have blanks and

maybe a laser sight.

>> Exactly. That that's where we went with

the Hunger Game stuff is laser tag and

then it would just trigger squibs if you

pointed at them. And then maybe in a in

post like we'd have a track where the

trajectory of where the bullets were and

we could just overlay like the lasers or

whatever uh in post so you could

visually see it. But obviously in the

time it were actually filming

practically it would just be you know

invisible. You just know if you got hit

if your suit lit up. And it seems like

you could sync up uh a laser tag with an

actual blank round

>> to make.

>> So you can make the boom and then the

laser actually hits the person at the

same time.

>> Okay.

>> Right.

>> Yeah.

>> That wouldn't be hard to do because if

you have lasers, you have guns that

shoot lasers. That's what laser tag is.

That's a pretty simple mechanism. All

you would do is have like sort of a dual

trigger setup where you have as you pull

the trigger back, you get the explosion

from the round going off and you also

get the laser at the same time. And so

the squibs go off, you say the boom and

then the squibs go off and you have it

all coordinated together and then it

looks wild. And so then YOU HAVE THESE

ZOMBIES,

>> BOOM, you shoot them, you see splatter

all over their chest.

>> The only other thing we have to figure

out is where is this going? because of

what's going on my YouTube channel. We

don't usually show gore.

Um, so we might have to hit up uh where

we Yeah. where we used to put Fear

Factor and stuff because that that

definitely seems like a more It's going

from like we're usually family friendly

to now this is very rated R. But it

>> family friendly because you're killing

zombies.

>> Well, we Yeah, you you know if

something's family friendly or not if

you say eliminated instead of killing.

So you're if you're eliminating zombies,

that's family friendly. If you're

killing zombies, that's rated R. Well,

they're already dead, so you're

eliminating them.

>> Ex. There you go. See, now we're bashing

them. See, they're already dead.

>> And and like you can tell if like a

shows like for 18 plus or like 13 plus

if like before they they shoot the

person or whatever if it cuts away,

right? And like there's all these little

things. Not that we

>> This could be wild.

>> I mean, if some streaming platform was

like, "Yo, here's whatever whatever a

blank check. Just make it happen." Oh my

god.

>> Amazon should do it. They need people

over there anyway.

>> Yeah. or I mean really even Netflix

anyone really like it's it's the biggest

no-brainer in the history of ever like

the actually the fact that no one's

recreated this is kind of absurd when

you think about it but it's also like if

traditional you know independent of like

the shotgun stuff you're talking about

like a traditional people with

traditional world views did this it'd be

so stringent and structured and and

stuff like that whereas like we if we

did it with like the beast games mindset

where it's just like there's cameras

everywhere they can truly do whatever

the hell they want and it's not like

this like guarded thing and it's an

actual abandoned city. Oh my gosh, it

would go crazy.

>> Now, we need a task. We need a goal.

>> The goal would be survival,

>> right? But maybe survival while you're

trying to accomplish something.

>> Okay. Well, then this is like a

mechanism that usually would work well

is the the task every day will grow the

prize pool. And if it's on a streaming

platform, then the prize pool could be

crazy, right? It doesn't have to be a

million dollars. It could grow to 10

million theoretically if they weren't

being cheap. And so then it could be

like every day if you complete the task

I put a million dollars in the prize

pool. Each episode's one whole day. It's

10 episodes 10 days. And so they could

technically grow the prize pool to $10

million. You put some like you know the

UFC people and like you Navy Seals and

like these hardcore people and you tell

them like they could potentially share

$10 million, bro. They would be trying

their butts off those 10 days. The

footage would be crazy. I mean they

would they would probably be like

practicing during the day like their

rotations and everything on like holding

off zombies. It would that would be

really cool.

>> Yeah. They would run training routes.

>> Exactly.

>> You know, it's really interesting. We'd

have to figure out how the zombies get

them

>> because you don't want physical conflict

between the stunt people, the zombie

people, and the contestants. You don't

want them to actually fight. Exactly.

>> Right. So, like you would have to have

rules as to what

>> it would probably be in my default

intuition is if the zombie just purely

touches you, then you're just dead. Like

we wouldn't be able to take it any

further than that, you know? You know,

but if they like

>> right like 28 days later zombies, all

they have to do is like scratch you

>> or breathe in front of you. Yeah,

exactly. But in this case, if they touch

you, that way it's not like the Navy

Seal like pushing and flipping them off

like cuz if you went to push them or

touch them, then you'd be out. So people

be keeping their distance, but even then

it'd get pretty crazy if they're like

cuz they're obviously they would run and

there'd be chase scenes and stuff. So,

>> uh, honestly, like I know some great

stunt choreographers like Ken and a

bunch of other people. I would just call

them and be like, "Yo, how do I do

this?" and and they'd probably be like,

"Oh, here's how I do it." Or whatever.

>> Dude, this could be mad.

>> Yeah,

>> this could be a mad

>> to set the stage. It's like abandoned

city, dozens of acres, sealed off. Like

we I could literally build like a a wall

around it so the seals and whoever the

contestants know like this is the edge.

They're walled in and then uh yeah,

they're walking around and then we have

some of the best set designers in the

like world come in and like basically

we'd pick a time in the future. We'd say

this is 50 years in the future and they

would match exactly what all these

buildings would look like 50 years from

now. They'd put vines on this. If

there's a gas station, they'd go through

and like this is what would happen to

Doritos 50 years from now. They'd

literally mirror it identically across,

you know, a hundred buildings. And then

we drop we'd have a helicopter fly in,

drop them off, and then it's like, you

know, every day like we could have like

an eagle fly over and drop their task of

the day. And then in the middle of the

city's a million. Oh, that's what we

could do. The prize pool in the middle

if the zombies touch it as well, then

they they lose the money. So they're not

only defending themselves but also the

prize pool. So in the middle of the

city, so that's why they have to build a

fort around it. And then every day if

they complete their crazy task, right,

which is distracting them from building

their fort, then I uh a helicopter will

drop another million dollars on their

prize pool. So then it's like, so

episode one, they complete the task

before the zombies come at night. And

then it's like I come in on a

helicopter, we have a rope lowered down.

A million dollars is massive in ones,

right? And then it unhooks. And now they

have $2 million there. Like good luck,

guys. And if there's six of them, then

it's like you're now, if you survive are

all winning over $300,000. And then, you

know, but if you grow the prize pool to

$6 million without getting eliminated,

you're all millionaires in nine days,

bro. That would be crazy.

>> Wow.

>> And then, yeah, the zombies come in. We

figure out the practical guns with the

right sound effects. And

>> yeah, practical guns, right sound

effects, and what what entails you

getting killed by a zombie. Yeah. Like,

how do they

>> And the other thing, too, to make it fun

is if a zombie eliminates one of you,

they get one six of the prize pool or

whatever. So then now the zombies are

incentivized, right, to try to So then

it's like if a zombie touches the Navy

Seal, whatever the way is, it's like

congrats, now you're a millionaire if

it's later on. So then like as it goes

on, things are going to get really tense

on both sides. It'll be really cool.

>> Yeah, dude.

>> Cuz that's how you take it where people

don't want to be zombies to now they're

like excited to be zombies. They're

like, "Oo, I I actually sneak up behind

them and I get a million bucks."

>> People are going to want to be zombies

anyway.

>> True. Cuz it's going to look sick.

>> It's going to be sick. Honestly, I would

want to be a zombie. That just like

imagine walking in a horde and role

playing being a zombie. That'd actually

be a pretty cool be so sick. You're It's

total pitch black. There's no power, no

electricity. You just see red eyes in

the woods.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> While these dudes are sneaking in and

you'd have to have some sort of rules

like how the zombies can move, whether

they can run, whether they can, you know

what I mean? Yeah,

>> cuz like we have to decide are these 28

days later zombies that run at you or

these like Walking Dead zombies that are

like kind of like

>> we probably start off that way, but they

evolve with time. And and I'm a big fan

of like usually when you have like uh

people who are playing certain roles.

They usually end up going rogue. It's

really hard to get hundreds of people to

do like certain things like you know in

an unscripted sandbox environment. So,

we would have to constrict them in a way

where like if we didn't want them to

move past a certain speed, we'd probably

have to figure out some way to put like

a chain around their feet or something

that physically wouldn't allow them to

do it. Or like if you have 300 zombies

going, right, you you can't redo it,

right? Like if if one of those zombies

goes rogue and and Scratch, it's like I

can't reshoot the show, right? That's

what that's what's so high stakes about

things we do in a super world. So, we'd

have to physically make it where they

couldn't do things they're not supposed

to do in a perfect world. Or if you have

300 people, if 2% go rogue, that's still

six zombies going rogue, which is

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brutal. But I think I think with pro

with proper planning, if you really sit

down and plan out what the what the

zombies task is, what it means, and like

what these people are doing, and what

what what goals are they trying to

achieve while they're there and while

they're defending against zombies, you

got to give them stuff to do during the

day so that they're fully occupied so

they can't sleep.

>> Okay?

>> It's really important. Like the more

they do during the day, it optimizes the

amount of money they can win. Like as

they complete tasks, if they stay alive,

they have a higher threshold. Whereas

someone just [ __ ] sleeps all day.

>> Yeah.

>> And doesn't get anything done. Even if

they survive, they can't make any money.

>> Yeah. I get what you're saying.

>> You know what I'm saying?

>> And that that works if these are, you

know, hardcore like people. So it's

good. Like if I normal contestants,

they'd be like, "Oh, this is horrible."

>> That you want that though. You want

people to [ __ ] out. You want a few

people to quit because that there's

always going to be people that won't

>> you are hold to different standards and

I that if I did that there would be

maybe 10 trillion articles written about

how I'm the most evil man on the planet.

But

>> if I made it too hard where people

couldn't sleep or whatever.

>> No, listen. You can't read those

articles. [ __ ] those people. You just

got to make an awesome show. The awesome

show is you keep these [ __ ]

awake

>> and you make it so that they can choose

to sleep if they want. But there are

tasks to achieve. And if you can

complete these tasks, you have the

potential to make a lot of money. But if

you don't complete the tasks, you can't

make any money even if you survive.

>> Prime sold Amazon, Netflix, whoever

wants it, let us know. Like,

>> right, you got to keep these

[ __ ] awake. So that night time

is terrifying. Can you imagine seeing

people sitting there with their shotgun

>> and opening their eyes and looking out

and seeing red eyes in the woods like

[ __ ] We get a tight shot of their faces

and as they're asleep and then one of

the other guys would go zombies and you

hear bang bang and then they wake up and

they grab their gun.

>> Well, that was that's the problem of

people randomly shooting wild while

there's other people around them. So, it

kind of would have to be blanks and

lasers cuz now that I'm thinking about

it, like people are going to spaz out

and accidentally shoot some in the face.

This is where

>> especially if they're tired. I've done

uh I mean obviously you did unscripted

with with pctor but I've done lots of

unscripted stuff with lots of people and

exactly when you were talking about the

shotgun stuff I'm like I you know

there's just no shot in hell that you

would we'd ever be able to it would have

to be like but I love the gel rounds and

we could do it in a way where we set

that the guns where it looks really cool

and we could recreate the sound effect

but then gel rounds like those it's

essentially like the Nerf ones now I'm

remembering them like they're like water

that explodes on impact those would be

perfect honestly. Yeah, but you want

blanks cuz you want the bang. You want

the bang for the people, for the

psychological effect. This the fear.

It's in the middle of the night. It's

dark. You're making a bang go off. The

flash of the bang going off.

>> Yeah.

>> And then maybe to avoid people being

able to shoot each other. Maybe at night

time they're completely separated. Maybe

at night time.

>> No, you want them together. I'm telling

you, like if they built a fort around

the money, what you want in the shots is

you always want to

>> people to be able to tell what they're

competing for and like their why. And

you usually, but you don't want to have

to say it, right? You don't want to have

to say, "Oh, I'm competing for this

money." But if you have the money in the

background of the shot, intuitively

viewers will be like, "That's what

they're competing for." So like a fort

built around it where they have walls

and they're standing on it and you see

the money behind them in the shots. Like

intuitively to a viewer, you're going to

instantly understand the motivation and

it's going to be uh like I mean it will

just be so crazy the shots. Maybe it's

like a super advanced game of hideand

seek at night where the people can't

talk. They have to be very quiet because

the zombies are have like hyper hearing

like you give the zombies like Walker

game ears. You know what those things

are?

>> Uh no.

>> It's like uh do you ever go to a gun