Her Rhythm: Women in Jazz | United Nations
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>> Hello everyone and welcome to Gold's
Lounge. Thank you so much for joining
us. Do we have a few jazz fans in the
room?
All right. All right.
What a joy it is to welcome you to the
United Nations. And yes, I can feel it
already. We're a little jazz stopped.
At the United Nations Office for
Partnerships, we know that culture is a
force for social change and there's no
better example than jazz. Music born
from resilience, collaboration, and the
insistence that every voice deserves to
be heard. We're going to hear from women
who are rewriting the score, breaking
barriers, and creating space in an
industry that has not always created
space for them.
These leaders have carved their own
paths and they've lifted others as they
reach new heights.
While amplifying music for justice and
equity.
Let's always be reminded that
representation matters.
A big thank you to our partners WBGO, a
global leader in jazz radio.
>> [applause]
>> And Jazz House Kids, a renowned arts and
education
>> [applause]
>> and performance organization. So let's
keep this incredible energy that I'm
feeling right now flowing and with that,
I'm going to introduce Stephen Williams,
president of WBGO.
Welcome to the stage.
>> [applause]
>> There we go. All right, there we go.
Hey everybody, how y'all doing?
Yes, wonderful looking
group of people today.
Thank you for for taking time to hang
out with us. I I I'm I'm promising you
you won't be disappointed.
It is my distinct honor
and privilege to welcome you to this
celebration of women in jazz, a
gathering
recognizes and elevates the artistry,
resilience, and transformative power of
women whose voices and creativity have
shaped one of the world's most
influential traditions. I'm sure we can
agree upon that.
Jazz has always been a force that
transcends borders
and languages. And tonight, we shine a
well-deserved spotlight on the women who
have carried its spirit forward,
innovators, storytellers, and
trailblazers whose contributions
continue to inspire new generations.
For me,
personally, this event also carries a
very special meaning. Standing here in
this citadel of collaboration and
cultural exchange, nearly 20 years after
working here in this very place
as a member of the radio unit for
several years.
Uh these hallowed halls brings back
memories, vivid memories of
accomplishment and profound and
energizing sense of contributing to a
global purpose
that defines this institution.
The UN has always been a place where
diverse voices come together and uplift
humanity.
And tonight's celebration embodies that
same spirit, reminding us how [snorts]
music can build bridges,
foster understanding, and reflect our
shared aspirations.
As we gather to honor these remarkable
women and the rich heritage of jazz, let
us celebrate not only their musical
achievements,
but also the courage and creativity that
continues to shape and protect the ideas
and ideals of a more thoughtful and
inclusive world.
Thank you for joining us for what
promises to be an inspiring and joyful
evening.
It is my pleasure now to introduce my
dear friend
and
a whirlwind of creativity and and
stewardship,
founder and president of Jazz House
Kids, Melissa Walker.
>> [applause and cheering]
>> Thanks, Steve.
Thank you.
You know, WBGO has um
gotten me into more interesting things.
I don't think Jazz House would be here
today if it weren't for WBGO
when they invited me to do a program for
kids and I
went and sang and I built a jazz house
and I've been building jazz houses ever
since for 25 years. And now to be here
with you today.
And so uh it is a deep honor to be here
as we celebrate Women's History Month.
And with the United Nations Office for
Partnerships, Anne-Marie, thank you so
much for having us here and thank you to
your extraordinary team
uh for helping us put this
together. You know, we so value the
mission of the UN and we are grateful
for your leadership and your commitment
to fostering global dialogue and
cultural exchange and understanding.
You know, speaking of having a dialogue,
today we're going to have two.
We're going to have one
on stage with an all-star ensemble and
off stage, so to speak. And we're going
to have a conversation about uh
inclusion and whose voice will matter.
And so it's my pleasure to bring to this
stage this outstanding group of women
artists, educators, and cultural leaders
who are shaping
our present and pointing the way to our
future.
And they are continuing to challenge the
long-standing gender barriers that face
so many of us.
Today we'll explore how women are
driving change and using music as a
powerful platform for storytelling,
advocacy, and community building.
So it gives me great honor to bring to
the stage a good friend,
a tremendous vocalist as you will hear,
a composer, a band leader, and an
educator,
and internationally uh acclaimed
vocalist, powerful voice. She has
performed at so many of the major
festivals around the world. She's an
educator at Montclair State University.
She's a a teacher for the youth program
at Jazz at Lincoln Center. She's uh a
prestigious alum of the Betty Carter a
school of music and she has and her path
uh brings up so many of the great
singers of Ma Rainey, Bessie Smith, as
well as the trailblazers of this music
of Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald, Nancy
Wilson, and her favorite, Dianne Reeves.
Come to the stage, Brianna
Avery. [applause]
Thank you.
Brianna.
Hey there. Hello. So good to
So [snorts] good to see you.
>> [laughter]
>> I think we're here. Yes.
Our next esteemed guest is Michelle
Taylor, founder and managing director of
Passion Music Group and the artist
management music marketing company.
Michelle Taylor is a trailblazer in this
music as an executive and arts manager
with a distinguished career that spans
more than three decades across major
labels, artist management, and music
advocacy. She's a manager of a Grammy
Award-winning pianist and composer and a
Jazz House alum, Matthew Whitaker,
uh the nominee and a two-time Grammy
nominee and vocalist, Christie Dashiell,
dynamic group of the String Queens.
Let's uh bring to the stage Michelle
Taylor.
Someone I have known for
about that long.
>> [applause]
>> Thank you.
Oh, so excited to have uh you meet uh a
young woman if you haven't already,
Ella Brick, Venezuelan-born singer,
songwriter, producer, trumpeter,
actress.
She's working to be an EGOT. Yes, she
is. She is a two-time Grammy winner.
Ella has become a prolific producer on
rise in the Latin music space. She's
known for blending jazz improvisation
with Afro-Venezuelan rhythms and global
influences.
Internationally recognized voice in
contemporary jazz and Latin music. She
grew up surrounded by culturally minded
and socially conscious community and
she's trained in El Sistema. And her
music highlights her curiosity about
life and music.
When not on the road, she teaches at the
Louis Armstrong House. Please welcome to
the stage this very special guest, Ella
Brick.
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>> Hi.
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>> So,
this is an honor
and quite a distinction to be here with
you.
You know, we are here to celebrate women
in jazz as well as women who are
trailblazers in this music not today and
pointing the way for the future.
And I'd like to say what first brought
you to the dance?
Um, in jazz and what keeps you in the
music and making music and the
challenges that you face but yet and
still
you persevere.
I will say for me, um,
I remember distinctly when I was 8 years
old, my father was a big jazz fan and
would have all kinds of music playing
throughout the house and one thing I
remember distinctly is on Saturday
mornings he would put the music on the
speakers in the basement to the to the
yard and I would press my forehead to
the screen of my bedroom listening to
this music
and I didn't know what I was listening
to but I knew that I liked it and it
stuck with me through when I
um, became an adult
um, I uh,
knew that this is what I wanted to do
and if I just may tell a little story
my career actually began at WBGO.
I needed to get into the business and I
knew that I was just out of school and
no one knew me but everybody can use
free help so I volunteered at WBGO
and
>> [laughter]
>> and [applause] through that I met uh,
through that I met uh, the the promotion
head of promotion at Blue Note Records
and that's where I began my career
promoting jazz and um,
it's a my company is Passion Music Group
because it is a passion for me. It's
been a passion for me since I was 8
years old um, and it's rare when you're
blessed to do have the opportunity to do
exactly what you love
and um, I work with amazing artists and
people
um,
and every day it sounds cliche but
every day I look forward to sitting at
my desk and seeing what the challenges
of the day will bring
and what keeps me loving it is that that
just that the challenges and the the
amazing artists that how many beautiful
young musicians are coming up and
pushing the music forward um, so many
women are becoming
deal makers making deals pushing the
music forward making spaces for women
all across the globe so I'm excited
every day about doing what I do.
You know, that that feeling of when you
wake up every day with purpose Yes.
>> it's just easier to move through the day
>> Yes. and you know
you know, I guess you know, how do you
feel about that Brianna
you certainly lead and sing with
purpose.
>> Yes. Thank you. I definitely grew up in
a household that my my father was a
drummer and a vocalist and a very
prominent one in Peoria, Illinois where
I'm from
and it was just like learning how to
speak English or the language that was
spoken in the household. Music is a
language and um, I came to it that way.
I came to it learning my ABCs and
learning how to sing melodies so it was
very natural and um, it wasn't you know,
I I was very fortunate to have several
opportunities, mentors, teachers that
pushed me
um, that that looked out for me, gave me
tapes of people to listen to, recognized
things in me that I hadn't seen in
myself
but programs like the Betty Carter Jazz
Ahead program where you write your own
music that was my first time as a
composer
that was my aha moment. I heard an idea
from my imagination
and shared it in a communal setting with
people and they made something out of it
that I could not ever have even thought
of and I was intoxicated by it and
that's one of the biggest reasons I'm
still hanging on.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay Lela, what brought you to the dance
and what keeps you here?
Very similar, my dad is a jazz drummer
um, but
I feel like what keeps me going uh, is
trying to find a common ground
between people who not necessarily are
artists but to remind each other of our
humankind
and to use tenderness and love as a way
to resist these times. I feel like
that's what keeps me uh, doing what I do
and yeah, that's what I'm going to say
about it. You know, I love that you
brought up kind of a a quote from Nina
Simone about that you know, what you
know, share that with us. Um, she said
in an interview, how can you be an
artist and not reflect the times that
we're living in?
And that's something that really
uh, had an impact on on on myself as an
immigrant as someone who had to
you know, move to New York City
being in spaces where I had to learn a a
different language and learn a different
um, music um,
so that to me it came with a
responsibility
and at at the beginning I thought that
the responsibility was just uh, be
involved uh, politically or just um, be
able to to to use my music as a
as a tool for for protest but also I
feel like in the context of being a
woman
it's just occupying the spaces living in
the spaces and
and just exist and make whoever needs to
be
uh, uncomfortable by my presence.
And move forward by your presence. And
yes. Yes. Yeah.
You know, um, Brianna you've also shared
that you know, in terms of that being a
leader is also being a follower, a great
listener and with your audience, you
know, what do you hope for them?
And how do you view that? I view every
audience, everyone that comes into the
room comes into the room with their own
lives, their own experiences, their own
triumphs and you know, disappointments
and everything in between and each
member of the audience
an experience in that moment but somehow
the music that's happening on the stage
connects everyone together in a moment
and so I hope for my audiences that they
come into the moment with trust
and if they don't come into it with
trust I hope to gain it on the first
two.
>> [laughter]
>> And Yeah. I hope that they they come in
to have a shared experience and I think
that's the best part about music um, is
that music creates a round table
and everybody can find their spot at the
table and there's no one there to tell
you that's not right, this is not this
so and so can be crying tears of joy and
and so and so over here can be crying
tears of grief but at the same time it's
an experience that is understood by the
spirit and soul and so serving
the music means serving the moment means
serving sometimes you got to sing a sad
song, usher people into the tears they
needed to cry and sometimes it's about
jubilation and celebration and just
being able to be that kind of conduit
and it takes a lot of courage and
dedication but the audiences are so
you know, I find that the audiences
they give too. There's an energy. It's
like you dance, we dance and so
I hope that You know, I think of at Jazz
House, you know, a parent said to me the
Jazz House is like a campfire
and you know, coming from Edmonton,
Alberta, Canada without a lot of money
camping was something you did often
and um, that that notion of coming
around and and welcoming people to the
warmth of the campfire
and then um, you know, I just think
that's such a powerful moment and this
music that we do
you know, we are living in the moment.
It is of the moment. You know, um,
Michelle you know, you work with
a number of artists from really kind of
different backgrounds and spectrums. You
know, that wasn't something that was
done a lot before. You know, you kind of
pick your lane um, and you also have
artists who are are crossing genres
you know, tell me what you've noticed as
this executive you know
you know, in the industry over time,
what has had to happen to make that
possible and what did artists do to kind
of push open those doors?
Well, what I have found now um, in the
industry it's changed a lot in that
well, one thing was when I was in the
corporate environment
um,
back in a hundred years ago
you couldn't really have a side hustle
but I knew that I always wanted to work
with artists in a deeper capacity but
now everybody has a side hustle.
So, that's one thing um,
and I think you know, you were talking
about leadership and being an artist
manager and
you know, listening You were mentioning
listening. It's so important that me as
a as a manager that I listen to my
clients and I understand what it is that
they want, where they want to go, what
they want for themselves, what they want
for their families. Um and
that's how we move it forward. You know,
I am
sort of there to help them get to that
point that they want to get to. Um and
it
I don't know if it's gotten any easier
um because we still have the same
especially um now with um having come
out of the pandemic when everybody was
just coming back up to speed, you know,
um the money was less was
or non-existent. So, we had to find a
way to the artist still wanted to work,
still needed to work. And so, we needed
to find a way to make that happen. And I
think that listening
um to what they would do and what they
wouldn't do was very helpful.
And again, that's important in moving
the music forward, you know, moving the
art forward. Um is being able to work
together as a team
to get
to com to sort of bring to fruition some
of those goals and aspirations that my
clients have. And they're all different.
Yes, you know, they're all different and
I love that about
my list of clients. They're they bring
their own thing and I
I I just so enjoy the music and and I
enjoy the variety
and the diversity
of the roster.
You know, it's it you know, I never
thought that I would work with a
15-year-old blind pianist.
But now having worked with him for 10
years, it's amazing what I've learned.
Pretty special. coming through Jazz
House. But I I just learned so much
through listening and understanding
and seeing
um
the work of artists with disabilities in
a completely different way.
And the representation that still needs
to happen
for artists with disabilities because
it's just not there. So, both he and I,
Matthew and I, we always talk about
representation and what we can do to
break down those barriers. That's
exciting to me. That's Yeah. [applause]
You know,
Ella, you listened to yourself when you
were younger. You you know, grew up in
El Sistema. You were in classical music.
But talk to us about listening to
yourself and making those hard decisions
to to move in directions that perhaps
one you weren't trained in or move into
a direction that you felt was right.
Um yes.
I
the El Sistema was pretty
straightforward education for us. And um
now that I'm I'm older now, I can see
like there was like no like D O G
Department of Education like like trying
to see like why a kid is rehearsing 12
hours smaller.
Um but we did we did that and every day
>> every day pretty much. And um when I was
16, I I got to this crisis where I I
wanted to be able to to be a teenager. I
wanted to do my own thing and talk about
heartbreak about things that will people
who never imagine that I had a crush on
them. I wanted to be able to reflect
that in my music.
And um
it was a fight because my dad, you know,
worked really hard for me to to get a
spot in the classical orchestra and he's
like, "You're a great trumpet player.
What's going to happen? Didn't you want
to be with like Wynton and do classical
and jazz and all that?" I'm like, "Sure,
but let me just exist."
And then I I also grew up in a very
religious family. So, I feel like there
was a lot of things that I wanted to say
um but I I I I couldn't I couldn't say
them out loud.
And that's when I changed my name. Um I
remember I saw uh Ella Fitzgerald um
improvising for the first time.
I'm like, "I want to be Ella. I'm going
to be Ella." And then I I hold it for
myself. I changed my name in my heart.
And then when I moved to New York City,
I was able to express myself as an
artist. And that inner voice took me to
different that that curiosity. When
you're a kid, that's why I was talking
to Lucas, the kid who was with me in a
rain and the green room. I'm like, "What
do you do?" He's like, "Well, I play
drums."
But I don't know if I'm a musician. Just
say that you're a musician.
You own it. And I had to talk to myself
um like that when I was a kid. I I
wanted to write uh music for other
artists. I wanted to produce, but I
didn't know how to do it. But that
curiosity took me to learn new stuff. Um
and my mentors, they thought that I was
going to go in a certain way that I was
going to be whether a classical
uh musician or a jazz trumpet player.
And then in 2011 when Wynton Marsalis
finally got to meet me I love that. It's
a full circle moment. But unexpectedly
And then he gave an interview talking
about me. And the journalist asked him,
"What's the next step for her?"
And he said, "She has to put herself in
a position to do what she wants to do."
And I was like, "Yes.
Yes.
I can do whatever I want." And then I
was able to end up doing pop music urban
you know,
but I still jazz has a big part in in my
heart and I have so much respect for it
for for for the art form from for the
history as well.
So, yeah.
You know, that takes a lot of courage,
right? We can all you know, when you
feel like you're not fulfilling the path
that you either set for yourself or
someone else did.
Uh you know,
you know, I want to move into thinking
about courage because each one of you
have been the first.
Um and you know, Brianna, the first 12
years old. How is it the
African-American you were moved into the
want to get that the Hall of Fame at the
age of 12. That's a lot to put on your
shoulders. You even have a day named
after you. Yes. You know,
So, when I was 12, I went with a teacher
who saw me a trombonist. I was I played
saxophone.
Don't ask. I'm not going to do
[laughter] it. But um my teachers made
me continue to play saxophone. She took
me to Mary Jo Pappage. Took me to Europe
with a big band. And um I was inducted
into the African-American Hall of Fame
when I got back. And I didn't understand
what it meant. I was there for the cake.
But and and to sing. But um I was my
father he was also inducted after me. I
was the first in the family.
Um Brianna Thomas Day came about in
2023.
I was on tour with Jazz at Lincoln
Center songs we love in Pittsburgh. And
out of the blue, Pittsburgh made a
proclamation
declaring February 22nd, mark your
calendars, Brianna Thomas Day. And
it is
it is a lot to carry, but to whom much
is given, much is expected. And I take
it very seriously. I've always felt like
the power of music um music says things
that words often cannot. And um it it
makes room for people to feel how they
feel and be how they are. And back on
Ella here, it takes time to become who
you are as an artist. And it and as we
give ourselves permission to become who
we are, I think somewhere in that space
when we share that with people it's a
contagious
infectious feeling and and people feel
the freedom that we allow ourselves. So,
um I I do I'm very blessed and so
honored and
I look to live up to it every day.
>> [laughter]
>> You know, Michelle, I mean the first
woman, you know, to lead a jazz
division.
Uh we still see the road that and the
work ahead for this music to really
fully open its arms.
Uh that took a lot of courage and you
know, talk about that. And and and I
also so struck by it was another woman
who pulled you forward.
>> Yes.
Um yes, I was um
the first woman to head a jazz division
at a major label, Atlantic Records,
which was founded on jazz and R&B, the
house that Ruth built. Um and I was I
was at RCA at the time heading up their
um
marketing division for jazz.
And I got a call uh one of my mentors
said, "Hey, they're they're going to um
cuz jazz Atlantic Jazz had been dormant
for a while."
And Ahmet Ertegun, the founder of uh
the label
wanted to um start the start the jazz
division up again. And so, they were
looking for someone to run it.
And I heard about it and I heard that
Sylvia Rhone,
who was the most powerful woman in the
business,
uh African-American woman in the
business, was doing the um interviewing.
And she had uh she had a gentleman in
mind already.
And I said, "Stop the presses.
Let me get her my resume."
And I got her my resume and I had an
interview the next day. And I had the
gig like 2 days later.
And it was and yeah, it was great. And
she always championed
other women, but you had to be ready.
She was not going to bring you up if you
weren't ready.
And I was ready.
And no one knew more about the music um
at a label
I didn't believe than I did.
And um so yeah, going into that space
um
Was I nervous? No, honestly, because I
knew what I was doing.
Um and like I said, certainly no one at
the label except maybe Ahmet knew more
about the music than I did.
And um and to be sitting in Ahmet's
office in front of him when he's talking
to me about Shirley Horn and all of
these other people and I'm going back
and forth with him. Oh, YEAH, BLAH BLAH
BLAH.
>> [laughter]
>> We had it while he sits and smokes his
cigarette.
We had a great conversation. So, between
Sylvia and Ahmet um yeah, I got the gig
and and and it was great. I just walked
into meetings um
very prepared.
And I remember and I'll tell a quick
story. I remember going into the
marketing meetings where every every
department was part of the marketing
meetings.
And they would always have jazz last.
And by the time I got to all of our
accomplishments, people were leaving and
they were or they were glazed over, they
were tired or what have you.
So, one day after one of the meetings, I
went into the president's office. His
name was Vala Zoli.
And I said, look, I No, his name was Ron
Shapiro.
And I said, Ron, we have a lot going on
in the jazz department and and we're the
only department that has number one
records.
And I said, I want to go first.
And he's like, well, you know, Michelle,
there's a lot going on, but I said, I
need to go first. I said, whatever else
happens after I go, you know, fine, but
I need to go first. And he allowed me to
go first for the remainder of the
meetings. I would go first. And we would
I would run off my number one records. I
would run off what we were working on
and everyone was impressed.
And then the meetings continue And I sat
through the meetings.
>> [laughter]
>> That's
That would be good advice for a young
woman, right? Who is forging their path
on stage and off. You know, taking that
courage, speaking up for yourself,
having that agency. I I guess I want to
ask you, you know, as we kind of
conclude
what might be the the advice you'd give
to yourself
looking back?
Um
Trust your instinct, always.
And
slowest is the the fastest way to get
where you get that I got this from
Andrew, um the the Broadway actor.
I feel like um many times we find each
other lost in the way.
But sometimes being lost is the best way
for us to to be found. So, always trust
your instinct. Yeah.
Briana, one sentence on that. What would
you tell yourself? I would definitely
tell myself to be patient because uh
slow is the way to win the race. And you
become
by our by your experiences, good and
bad. And as artists, because we speak
for ourselves and for our community and
the experiences we're having, I would
tell a young woman to trust herself and
to trust what she was experiencing.
Don't let anybody talk you off that. And
to be brave to share it because whatever
you're going through, someone else is,
too.
Yeah.
You know, I would conclude with that.
a little bit I would just say
um
follow your passion.
Um be brave.
And be prepared.
Very true. And I think
you know, I would say know that you have
all that you need. That we possess all
that we need to go where we want to go.
Well, this has been a truly a delight
uh to to uh
talk with you today. You know, I think
when we look ahead
uh already women are leaning in and we
are uh trailblazers and standing on the
shoulders of so many who have come
before us. It has really been a pleasure
and I want to say that um
we will
kind of conclude this
and then we will take go into our second
part of this uh evening. You see this
wonderful instrument right here.
A piano like none other.
I think it is called
Sing for Hope.
Sing for Hope and that is what we will
be doing. We will have an all-star
concert uh with us.
With that, thank you so very much.
>> [applause]
>> Thank you. Thank you, Ella, Briana.
Michelle, thank you so very much.
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This video highlights a celebration of women in jazz, focusing on their artistry, resilience, and transformative power. The event, held at the United Nations, features discussions with accomplished female musicians, composers, and industry leaders. Key themes include the importance of representation, breaking gender barriers in the music industry, using music for social change, and the personal journeys of the artists. The speakers share their inspirations, challenges, and advice for aspiring artists, emphasizing courage, passion, and trusting one's instincts.
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