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Her Rhythm: Women in Jazz | United Nations

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Her Rhythm: Women in Jazz | United Nations

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>> Hello everyone and welcome to Gold's

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Lounge. Thank you so much for joining

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us. Do we have a few jazz fans in the

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room?

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All right. All right.

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What a joy it is to welcome you to the

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United Nations. And yes, I can feel it

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already. We're a little jazz stopped.

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At the United Nations Office for

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Partnerships, we know that culture is a

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force for social change and there's no

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better example than jazz. Music born

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from resilience, collaboration, and the

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insistence that every voice deserves to

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be heard. We're going to hear from women

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who are rewriting the score, breaking

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barriers, and creating space in an

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industry that has not always created

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space for them.

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These leaders have carved their own

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paths and they've lifted others as they

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reach new heights.

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While amplifying music for justice and

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equity.

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Let's always be reminded that

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representation matters.

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A big thank you to our partners WBGO, a

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global leader in jazz radio.

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>> [applause]

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>> And Jazz House Kids, a renowned arts and

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education

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>> [applause]

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>> and performance organization. So let's

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keep this incredible energy that I'm

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feeling right now flowing and with that,

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I'm going to introduce Stephen Williams,

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president of WBGO.

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Welcome to the stage.

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>> [applause]

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>> There we go. All right, there we go.

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Hey everybody, how y'all doing?

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Yes, wonderful looking

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group of people today.

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Thank you for for taking time to hang

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out with us. I I I'm I'm promising you

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you won't be disappointed.

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It is my distinct honor

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and privilege to welcome you to this

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celebration of women in jazz, a

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gathering

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recognizes and elevates the artistry,

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resilience, and transformative power of

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women whose voices and creativity have

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shaped one of the world's most

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influential traditions. I'm sure we can

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agree upon that.

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Jazz has always been a force that

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transcends borders

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and languages. And tonight, we shine a

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well-deserved spotlight on the women who

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have carried its spirit forward,

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innovators, storytellers, and

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trailblazers whose contributions

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continue to inspire new generations.

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For me,

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personally, this event also carries a

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very special meaning. Standing here in

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this citadel of collaboration and

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cultural exchange, nearly 20 years after

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working here in this very place

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as a member of the radio unit for

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several years.

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Uh these hallowed halls brings back

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memories, vivid memories of

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accomplishment and profound and

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energizing sense of contributing to a

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global purpose

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that defines this institution.

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The UN has always been a place where

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diverse voices come together and uplift

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humanity.

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And tonight's celebration embodies that

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same spirit, reminding us how [snorts]

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music can build bridges,

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foster understanding, and reflect our

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shared aspirations.

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As we gather to honor these remarkable

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women and the rich heritage of jazz, let

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us celebrate not only their musical

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achievements,

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but also the courage and creativity that

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continues to shape and protect the ideas

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and ideals of a more thoughtful and

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inclusive world.

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Thank you for joining us for what

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promises to be an inspiring and joyful

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evening.

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It is my pleasure now to introduce my

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dear friend

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and

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a whirlwind of creativity and and

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stewardship,

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founder and president of Jazz House

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Kids, Melissa Walker.

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>> [applause and cheering]

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>> Thanks, Steve.

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Thank you.

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You know, WBGO has um

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gotten me into more interesting things.

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I don't think Jazz House would be here

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today if it weren't for WBGO

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when they invited me to do a program for

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kids and I

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went and sang and I built a jazz house

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and I've been building jazz houses ever

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since for 25 years. And now to be here

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with you today.

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And so uh it is a deep honor to be here

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as we celebrate Women's History Month.

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And with the United Nations Office for

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Partnerships, Anne-Marie, thank you so

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much for having us here and thank you to

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your extraordinary team

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uh for helping us put this

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together. You know, we so value the

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mission of the UN and we are grateful

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for your leadership and your commitment

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to fostering global dialogue and

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cultural exchange and understanding.

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You know, speaking of having a dialogue,

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today we're going to have two.

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We're going to have one

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on stage with an all-star ensemble and

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off stage, so to speak. And we're going

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to have a conversation about uh

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inclusion and whose voice will matter.

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And so it's my pleasure to bring to this

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stage this outstanding group of women

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artists, educators, and cultural leaders

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who are shaping

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our present and pointing the way to our

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future.

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And they are continuing to challenge the

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long-standing gender barriers that face

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so many of us.

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Today we'll explore how women are

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driving change and using music as a

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powerful platform for storytelling,

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advocacy, and community building.

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So it gives me great honor to bring to

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the stage a good friend,

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a tremendous vocalist as you will hear,

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a composer, a band leader, and an

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educator,

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and internationally uh acclaimed

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vocalist, powerful voice. She has

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performed at so many of the major

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festivals around the world. She's an

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educator at Montclair State University.

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She's a a teacher for the youth program

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at Jazz at Lincoln Center. She's uh a

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prestigious alum of the Betty Carter a

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school of music and she has and her path

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uh brings up so many of the great

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singers of Ma Rainey, Bessie Smith, as

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well as the trailblazers of this music

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of Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald, Nancy

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Wilson, and her favorite, Dianne Reeves.

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Come to the stage, Brianna

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Avery. [applause]

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Thank you.

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Brianna.

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Hey there. Hello. So good to

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So [snorts] good to see you.

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>> [laughter]

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>> I think we're here. Yes.

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Our next esteemed guest is Michelle

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Taylor, founder and managing director of

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Passion Music Group and the artist

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management music marketing company.

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Michelle Taylor is a trailblazer in this

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music as an executive and arts manager

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with a distinguished career that spans

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more than three decades across major

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labels, artist management, and music

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advocacy. She's a manager of a Grammy

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Award-winning pianist and composer and a

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Jazz House alum, Matthew Whitaker,

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uh the nominee and a two-time Grammy

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nominee and vocalist, Christie Dashiell,

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dynamic group of the String Queens.

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Let's uh bring to the stage Michelle

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Taylor.

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Someone I have known for

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about that long.

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>> [applause]

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>> Thank you.

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Oh, so excited to have uh you meet uh a

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young woman if you haven't already,

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Ella Brick, Venezuelan-born singer,

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songwriter, producer, trumpeter,

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actress.

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She's working to be an EGOT. Yes, she

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is. She is a two-time Grammy winner.

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Ella has become a prolific producer on

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rise in the Latin music space. She's

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known for blending jazz improvisation

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with Afro-Venezuelan rhythms and global

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influences.

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Internationally recognized voice in

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contemporary jazz and Latin music. She

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grew up surrounded by culturally minded

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and socially conscious community and

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she's trained in El Sistema. And her

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music highlights her curiosity about

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life and music.

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When not on the road, she teaches at the

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Louis Armstrong House. Please welcome to

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the stage this very special guest, Ella

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Brick.

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>> [applause]

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>> Hi.

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>> [applause]

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>> So,

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this is an honor

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and quite a distinction to be here with

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you.

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You know, we are here to celebrate women

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in jazz as well as women who are

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trailblazers in this music not today and

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pointing the way for the future.

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And I'd like to say what first brought

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you to the dance?

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Um, in jazz and what keeps you in the

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music and making music and the

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challenges that you face but yet and

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still

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you persevere.

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I will say for me, um,

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I remember distinctly when I was 8 years

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old, my father was a big jazz fan and

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would have all kinds of music playing

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throughout the house and one thing I

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remember distinctly is on Saturday

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mornings he would put the music on the

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speakers in the basement to the to the

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yard and I would press my forehead to

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the screen of my bedroom listening to

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this music

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and I didn't know what I was listening

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to but I knew that I liked it and it

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stuck with me through when I

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um, became an adult

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um, I uh,

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knew that this is what I wanted to do

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and if I just may tell a little story

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my career actually began at WBGO.

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I needed to get into the business and I

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knew that I was just out of school and

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no one knew me but everybody can use

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free help so I volunteered at WBGO

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and

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>> [laughter]

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>> and [applause] through that I met uh,

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through that I met uh, the the promotion

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head of promotion at Blue Note Records

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and that's where I began my career

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promoting jazz and um,

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it's a my company is Passion Music Group

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because it is a passion for me. It's

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been a passion for me since I was 8

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years old um, and it's rare when you're

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blessed to do have the opportunity to do

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exactly what you love

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and um, I work with amazing artists and

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people

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um,

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and every day it sounds cliche but

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every day I look forward to sitting at

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my desk and seeing what the challenges

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of the day will bring

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and what keeps me loving it is that that

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just that the challenges and the the

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amazing artists that how many beautiful

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young musicians are coming up and

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pushing the music forward um, so many

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women are becoming

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deal makers making deals pushing the

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music forward making spaces for women

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all across the globe so I'm excited

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every day about doing what I do.

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You know, that that feeling of when you

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wake up every day with purpose Yes.

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>> it's just easier to move through the day

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>> Yes. and you know

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you know, I guess you know, how do you

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feel about that Brianna

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you certainly lead and sing with

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purpose.

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>> Yes. Thank you. I definitely grew up in

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a household that my my father was a

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drummer and a vocalist and a very

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prominent one in Peoria, Illinois where

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I'm from

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and it was just like learning how to

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speak English or the language that was

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spoken in the household. Music is a

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language and um, I came to it that way.

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I came to it learning my ABCs and

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learning how to sing melodies so it was

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very natural and um, it wasn't you know,

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I I was very fortunate to have several

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opportunities, mentors, teachers that

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pushed me

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um, that that looked out for me, gave me

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tapes of people to listen to, recognized

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things in me that I hadn't seen in

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myself

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but programs like the Betty Carter Jazz

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Ahead program where you write your own

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music that was my first time as a

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composer

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that was my aha moment. I heard an idea

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from my imagination

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and shared it in a communal setting with

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people and they made something out of it

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that I could not ever have even thought

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of and I was intoxicated by it and

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that's one of the biggest reasons I'm

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still hanging on.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Okay Lela, what brought you to the dance

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and what keeps you here?

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Very similar, my dad is a jazz drummer

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um, but

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I feel like what keeps me going uh, is

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trying to find a common ground

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between people who not necessarily are

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artists but to remind each other of our

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humankind

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and to use tenderness and love as a way

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to resist these times. I feel like

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that's what keeps me uh, doing what I do

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and yeah, that's what I'm going to say

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about it. You know, I love that you

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brought up kind of a a quote from Nina

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Simone about that you know, what you

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know, share that with us. Um, she said

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in an interview, how can you be an

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artist and not reflect the times that

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we're living in?

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And that's something that really

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uh, had an impact on on on myself as an

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immigrant as someone who had to

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you know, move to New York City

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being in spaces where I had to learn a a

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different language and learn a different

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um, music um,

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so that to me it came with a

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responsibility

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and at at the beginning I thought that

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the responsibility was just uh, be

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involved uh, politically or just um, be

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able to to to use my music as a

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as a tool for for protest but also I

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feel like in the context of being a

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woman

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it's just occupying the spaces living in

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the spaces and

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and just exist and make whoever needs to

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be

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uh, uncomfortable by my presence.

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And move forward by your presence. And

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yes. Yes. Yeah.

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You know, um, Brianna you've also shared

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that you know, in terms of that being a

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leader is also being a follower, a great

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listener and with your audience, you

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know, what do you hope for them?

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And how do you view that? I view every

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audience, everyone that comes into the

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room comes into the room with their own

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lives, their own experiences, their own

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triumphs and you know, disappointments

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and everything in between and each

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member of the audience

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an experience in that moment but somehow

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the music that's happening on the stage

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connects everyone together in a moment

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and so I hope for my audiences that they

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come into the moment with trust

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and if they don't come into it with

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trust I hope to gain it on the first

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two.

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>> [laughter]

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>> And Yeah. I hope that they they come in

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to have a shared experience and I think

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that's the best part about music um, is

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that music creates a round table

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and everybody can find their spot at the

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table and there's no one there to tell

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you that's not right, this is not this

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so and so can be crying tears of joy and

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and so and so over here can be crying

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tears of grief but at the same time it's

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an experience that is understood by the

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spirit and soul and so serving

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the music means serving the moment means

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serving sometimes you got to sing a sad

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song, usher people into the tears they

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needed to cry and sometimes it's about

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jubilation and celebration and just

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being able to be that kind of conduit

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and it takes a lot of courage and

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dedication but the audiences are so

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you know, I find that the audiences

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they give too. There's an energy. It's

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like you dance, we dance and so

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I hope that You know, I think of at Jazz

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House, you know, a parent said to me the

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Jazz House is like a campfire

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and you know, coming from Edmonton,

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Alberta, Canada without a lot of money

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camping was something you did often

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and um, that that notion of coming

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around and and welcoming people to the

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warmth of the campfire

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and then um, you know, I just think

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that's such a powerful moment and this

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music that we do

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you know, we are living in the moment.

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It is of the moment. You know, um,

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Michelle you know, you work with

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a number of artists from really kind of

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different backgrounds and spectrums. You

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know, that wasn't something that was

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done a lot before. You know, you kind of

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pick your lane um, and you also have

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artists who are are crossing genres

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you know, tell me what you've noticed as

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this executive you know

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you know, in the industry over time,

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what has had to happen to make that

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possible and what did artists do to kind

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of push open those doors?

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Well, what I have found now um, in the

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industry it's changed a lot in that

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well, one thing was when I was in the

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corporate environment

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um,

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back in a hundred years ago

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you couldn't really have a side hustle

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but I knew that I always wanted to work

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with artists in a deeper capacity but

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now everybody has a side hustle.

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So, that's one thing um,

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and I think you know, you were talking

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about leadership and being an artist

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manager and

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you know, listening You were mentioning

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listening. It's so important that me as

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a as a manager that I listen to my

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clients and I understand what it is that

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they want, where they want to go, what

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they want for themselves, what they want

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for their families. Um and

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that's how we move it forward. You know,

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I am

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sort of there to help them get to that

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point that they want to get to. Um and

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it

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I don't know if it's gotten any easier

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um because we still have the same

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especially um now with um having come

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out of the pandemic when everybody was

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just coming back up to speed, you know,

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um the money was less was

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or non-existent. So, we had to find a

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way to the artist still wanted to work,

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still needed to work. And so, we needed

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to find a way to make that happen. And I

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think that listening

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um to what they would do and what they

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wouldn't do was very helpful.

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And again, that's important in moving

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the music forward, you know, moving the

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art forward. Um is being able to work

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together as a team

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to get

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to com to sort of bring to fruition some

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of those goals and aspirations that my

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clients have. And they're all different.

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Yes, you know, they're all different and

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I love that about

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my list of clients. They're they bring

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their own thing and I

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I I just so enjoy the music and and I

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enjoy the variety

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and the diversity

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of the roster.

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You know, it's it you know, I never

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thought that I would work with a

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15-year-old blind pianist.

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But now having worked with him for 10

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years, it's amazing what I've learned.

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Pretty special. coming through Jazz

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House. But I I just learned so much

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through listening and understanding

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and seeing

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um

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the work of artists with disabilities in

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a completely different way.

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And the representation that still needs

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to happen

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for artists with disabilities because

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it's just not there. So, both he and I,

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Matthew and I, we always talk about

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representation and what we can do to

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break down those barriers. That's

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exciting to me. That's Yeah. [applause]

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You know,

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Ella, you listened to yourself when you

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were younger. You you know, grew up in

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El Sistema. You were in classical music.

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But talk to us about listening to

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yourself and making those hard decisions

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to to move in directions that perhaps

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one you weren't trained in or move into

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a direction that you felt was right.

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Um yes.

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I

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the El Sistema was pretty

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straightforward education for us. And um

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now that I'm I'm older now, I can see

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like there was like no like D O G

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Department of Education like like trying

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to see like why a kid is rehearsing 12

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hours smaller.

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Um but we did we did that and every day

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>> every day pretty much. And um when I was

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16, I I got to this crisis where I I

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wanted to be able to to be a teenager. I

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wanted to do my own thing and talk about

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heartbreak about things that will people

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who never imagine that I had a crush on

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them. I wanted to be able to reflect

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that in my music.

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And um

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it was a fight because my dad, you know,

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worked really hard for me to to get a

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spot in the classical orchestra and he's

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like, "You're a great trumpet player.

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What's going to happen? Didn't you want

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to be with like Wynton and do classical

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and jazz and all that?" I'm like, "Sure,

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but let me just exist."

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And then I I also grew up in a very

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religious family. So, I feel like there

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was a lot of things that I wanted to say

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um but I I I I couldn't I couldn't say

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them out loud.

24:00

And that's when I changed my name. Um I

24:03

remember I saw uh Ella Fitzgerald um

24:06

improvising for the first time.

24:08

I'm like, "I want to be Ella. I'm going

24:10

to be Ella." And then I I hold it for

24:13

myself. I changed my name in my heart.

24:14

And then when I moved to New York City,

24:16

I was able to express myself as an

24:18

artist. And that inner voice took me to

24:21

different that that curiosity. When

24:23

you're a kid, that's why I was talking

24:24

to Lucas, the kid who was with me in a

24:26

rain and the green room. I'm like, "What

24:28

do you do?" He's like, "Well, I play

24:30

drums."

24:31

But I don't know if I'm a musician. Just

24:33

say that you're a musician.

24:34

You own it. And I had to talk to myself

24:37

um like that when I was a kid. I I

24:39

wanted to write uh music for other

24:41

artists. I wanted to produce, but I

24:42

didn't know how to do it. But that

24:43

curiosity took me to learn new stuff. Um

24:47

and my mentors, they thought that I was

24:49

going to go in a certain way that I was

24:51

going to be whether a classical

24:53

uh musician or a jazz trumpet player.

24:56

And then in 2011 when Wynton Marsalis

24:59

finally got to meet me I love that. It's

25:01

a full circle moment. But unexpectedly

25:04

And then he gave an interview talking

25:05

about me. And the journalist asked him,

25:08

"What's the next step for her?"

25:10

And he said, "She has to put herself in

25:11

a position to do what she wants to do."

25:14

And I was like, "Yes.

25:16

Yes.

25:18

I can do whatever I want." And then I

25:21

was able to end up doing pop music urban

25:25

you know,

25:27

but I still jazz has a big part in in my

25:30

heart and I have so much respect for it

25:32

for for for the art form from for the

25:34

history as well.

25:36

So, yeah.

25:38

You know, that takes a lot of courage,

25:39

right? We can all you know, when you

25:42

feel like you're not fulfilling the path

25:44

that you either set for yourself or

25:46

someone else did.

25:48

Uh you know,

25:49

you know, I want to move into thinking

25:51

about courage because each one of you

25:54

have been the first.

25:56

Um and you know, Brianna, the first 12

26:00

years old. How is it the

26:02

African-American you were moved into the

26:06

want to get that the Hall of Fame at the

26:08

age of 12. That's a lot to put on your

26:10

shoulders. You even have a day named

26:13

after you. Yes. You know,

26:16

So, when I was 12, I went with a teacher

26:20

who saw me a trombonist. I was I played

26:23

saxophone.

26:25

Don't ask. I'm not going to do

26:27

[laughter] it. But um my teachers made

26:29

me continue to play saxophone. She took

26:31

me to Mary Jo Pappage. Took me to Europe

26:34

with a big band. And um I was inducted

26:37

into the African-American Hall of Fame

26:38

when I got back. And I didn't understand

26:41

what it meant. I was there for the cake.

26:44

But and and to sing. But um I was my

26:48

father he was also inducted after me. I

26:50

was the first in the family.

26:54

Um Brianna Thomas Day came about in

26:56

2023.

26:58

I was on tour with Jazz at Lincoln

26:59

Center songs we love in Pittsburgh. And

27:02

out of the blue, Pittsburgh made a

27:04

proclamation

27:06

declaring February 22nd, mark your

27:08

calendars, Brianna Thomas Day. And

27:13

it is

27:14

it is a lot to carry, but to whom much

27:17

is given, much is expected. And I take

27:20

it very seriously. I've always felt like

27:23

the power of music um music says things

27:26

that words often cannot. And um it it

27:30

makes room for people to feel how they

27:33

feel and be how they are. And back on

27:36

Ella here, it takes time to become who

27:39

you are as an artist. And it and as we

27:42

give ourselves permission to become who

27:45

we are, I think somewhere in that space

27:47

when we share that with people it's a

27:50

contagious

27:51

infectious feeling and and people feel

27:53

the freedom that we allow ourselves. So,

27:56

um I I do I'm very blessed and so

27:59

honored and

28:00

I look to live up to it every day.

28:02

>> [laughter]

28:04

>> You know, Michelle, I mean the first

28:06

woman, you know, to lead a jazz

28:07

division.

28:09

Uh we still see the road that and the

28:12

work ahead for this music to really

28:15

fully open its arms.

28:17

Uh that took a lot of courage and you

28:19

know, talk about that. And and and I

28:22

also so struck by it was another woman

28:25

who pulled you forward.

28:27

>> Yes.

28:28

Um yes, I was um

28:30

the first woman to head a jazz division

28:33

at a major label, Atlantic Records,

28:35

which was founded on jazz and R&B, the

28:38

house that Ruth built. Um and I was I

28:43

was at RCA at the time heading up their

28:46

um

28:46

marketing division for jazz.

28:49

And I got a call uh one of my mentors

28:52

said, "Hey, they're they're going to um

28:56

cuz jazz Atlantic Jazz had been dormant

28:58

for a while."

28:59

And Ahmet Ertegun, the founder of uh

29:03

the label

29:04

wanted to um start the start the jazz

29:07

division up again. And so, they were

29:08

looking for someone to run it.

29:10

And I heard about it and I heard that

29:13

Sylvia Rhone,

29:14

who was the most powerful woman in the

29:16

business,

29:17

uh African-American woman in the

29:19

business, was doing the um interviewing.

29:23

And she had uh she had a gentleman in

29:25

mind already.

29:28

And I said, "Stop the presses.

29:30

Let me get her my resume."

29:32

And I got her my resume and I had an

29:33

interview the next day. And I had the

29:36

gig like 2 days later.

29:38

And it was and yeah, it was great. And

29:42

she always championed

29:44

other women, but you had to be ready.

29:47

She was not going to bring you up if you

29:50

weren't ready.

29:51

And I was ready.

29:52

And no one knew more about the music um

29:56

at a label

29:57

I didn't believe than I did.

29:59

And um so yeah, going into that space

30:04

um

30:06

Was I nervous? No, honestly, because I

30:09

knew what I was doing.

30:10

Um and like I said, certainly no one at

30:13

the label except maybe Ahmet knew more

30:16

about the music than I did.

30:18

And um and to be sitting in Ahmet's

30:21

office in front of him when he's talking

30:23

to me about Shirley Horn and all of

30:26

these other people and I'm going back

30:28

and forth with him. Oh, YEAH, BLAH BLAH

30:29

BLAH.

30:30

>> [laughter]

30:30

>> We had it while he sits and smokes his

30:32

cigarette.

30:33

We had a great conversation. So, between

30:35

Sylvia and Ahmet um yeah, I got the gig

30:39

and and and it was great. I just walked

30:42

into meetings um

30:44

very prepared.

30:46

And I remember and I'll tell a quick

30:48

story. I remember going into the

30:49

marketing meetings where every every

30:51

department was part of the marketing

30:53

meetings.

30:54

And they would always have jazz last.

30:58

And by the time I got to all of our

31:00

accomplishments, people were leaving and

31:02

they were or they were glazed over, they

31:03

were tired or what have you.

31:06

So, one day after one of the meetings, I

31:07

went into the president's office. His

31:09

name was Vala Zoli.

31:11

And I said, look, I No, his name was Ron

31:13

Shapiro.

31:14

And I said, Ron, we have a lot going on

31:16

in the jazz department and and we're the

31:18

only department that has number one

31:20

records.

31:22

And I said, I want to go first.

31:24

And he's like, well, you know, Michelle,

31:26

there's a lot going on, but I said, I

31:27

need to go first. I said, whatever else

31:29

happens after I go, you know, fine, but

31:32

I need to go first. And he allowed me to

31:33

go first for the remainder of the

31:35

meetings. I would go first. And we would

31:38

I would run off my number one records. I

31:39

would run off what we were working on

31:41

and everyone was impressed.

31:44

And then the meetings continue And I sat

31:46

through the meetings.

31:48

>> [laughter]

31:48

>> That's

31:50

That would be good advice for a young

31:51

woman, right? Who is forging their path

31:55

on stage and off. You know, taking that

31:57

courage, speaking up for yourself,

31:59

having that agency. I I guess I want to

32:02

ask you, you know, as we kind of

32:04

conclude

32:06

what might be the the advice you'd give

32:08

to yourself

32:10

looking back?

32:12

Um

32:16

Trust your instinct, always.

32:20

And

32:22

slowest is the the fastest way to get

32:25

where you get that I got this from

32:27

Andrew, um the the Broadway actor.

32:30

I feel like um many times we find each

32:33

other lost in the way.

32:36

But sometimes being lost is the best way

32:38

for us to to be found. So, always trust

32:40

your instinct. Yeah.

32:44

Briana, one sentence on that. What would

32:46

you tell yourself? I would definitely

32:49

tell myself to be patient because uh

32:52

slow is the way to win the race. And you

32:54

become

32:56

by our by your experiences, good and

32:58

bad. And as artists, because we speak

33:02

for ourselves and for our community and

33:04

the experiences we're having, I would

33:06

tell a young woman to trust herself and

33:10

to trust what she was experiencing.

33:12

Don't let anybody talk you off that. And

33:16

to be brave to share it because whatever

33:20

you're going through, someone else is,

33:22

too.

33:23

Yeah.

33:24

You know, I would conclude with that.

33:27

a little bit I would just say

33:29

um

33:30

follow your passion.

33:32

Um be brave.

33:34

And be prepared.

33:37

Very true. And I think

33:39

you know, I would say know that you have

33:41

all that you need. That we possess all

33:44

that we need to go where we want to go.

33:48

Well, this has been a truly a delight

33:51

uh to to uh

33:53

talk with you today. You know, I think

33:56

when we look ahead

33:58

uh already women are leaning in and we

34:01

are uh trailblazers and standing on the

34:04

shoulders of so many who have come

34:06

before us. It has really been a pleasure

34:08

and I want to say that um

34:11

we will

34:12

kind of conclude this

34:14

and then we will take go into our second

34:18

part of this uh evening. You see this

34:21

wonderful instrument right here.

34:25

A piano like none other.

34:27

I think it is called

34:30

Sing for Hope.

34:32

Sing for Hope and that is what we will

34:34

be doing. We will have an all-star

34:36

concert uh with us.

34:39

With that, thank you so very much.

34:41

>> [applause]

34:41

>> Thank you. Thank you, Ella, Briana.

34:45

Michelle, thank you so very much.

34:48

>> [applause and music]

Interactive Summary

This video highlights a celebration of women in jazz, focusing on their artistry, resilience, and transformative power. The event, held at the United Nations, features discussions with accomplished female musicians, composers, and industry leaders. Key themes include the importance of representation, breaking gender barriers in the music industry, using music for social change, and the personal journeys of the artists. The speakers share their inspirations, challenges, and advice for aspiring artists, emphasizing courage, passion, and trusting one's instincts.

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