Thank you for joining us and

congratulations on the pregnancy and the

baby.

>> I know. Thank you.

>> How far can I ask how far down you are?

>> Far enough to know the baby's healthy

and I'm doing fine.

>> Good. Do you know the sex of the baby or

not?

>> I do.

>> You're not sharing it?

>> Not yet.

>> Okay, fair enough.

>> This would be too wholesome. I need to

share it in a really disgusting manner.

>> Okay. Okay. Um can I ask whether

pregnancy though has changed your

attitude to the work that you do?

>> No, I mean I've been it's been hard like

I've not found pregnancy easy. like

morning sickness is well and truly

throughout the whole day and it's not

just been in my first trimester.

>> Um but in terms of me wanting to

continue filming that hasn't stopped or

it hasn't slowed me down.

>> Surely it must change the kind of things

you do that rules out certain stunts

perhaps

>> made me want to be more careful in

certain elements but it has not stopped

um what I'm doing or me wanting to

invite the public. And people might hear

you say that and think, "Oh, hang on."

But you're pregnant. Does this stuff not

stop for anything? You're pregnant.

>> I mean, a lot of people I've been

posting clips recently of me having

intercourse whilst pregnant, and they're

like, "Oh my god, you can't do that."

And you can.

>> Yeah. I think to most people, shocks,

whether women want to say you can or

can't have it, you can. Like, it it is

okay. And it's healthy. And to me,

having sex with one person for six hours

or a large group of men for six hours is

the same thing to me. It's just

different shapes and sizes.

>> It's clear from the documentary on

Tunnel Four that lots of people watched

and from interviews I've seen you do

with other people as well

>> that you are a very smart businesswoman.

You know, you know what you want from

what you're doing and you know why

you're doing it and you tell everybody

that you enjoy it as well. It's not a

chore for you any more than anybody's

job is a chore.

>> For sure. Um, there may be days of

course when it feels like a chore or you

get tired or whatever, but but no more

than that. Not not traumatizing to you

is is how you put it.

>> Um, you're also changing

the porn industry, it seems to me,

redesigning it in a way because you want

it to be not just public facing but

public involving.

>> Yeah.

>> Why did you want the public literally up

close and personal in that way?

>> Because when I used to watch content

online, it's so unrealistic. It's made

to look like it's genuine and authentic,

but how many times you call your plumber

and then the next minute you bent over

your kitchen counter? Like, it just

doesn't happen. And there's a lot

>> you were asking me for real.

>> Never. Just so you know, never. No.

>> But there's always been like men in the

adult industry that are filmed with

people dressed as school girls or

they're implying they're super sweet and

innocent and the next minute they're

having sex. And that's just not the

reality of it. Nor do people have these

perfect perky boobs and flat tummies.

it's not necessarily relatable and my

content is meant to be relatable to the

audience. So there's no better way doing

that than me just inviting the public.

>> Whether it's whether as a mother to be

or prior to being um an expectant

mother,

>> do you accept that and you know you draw

a very firm line at the age of 18. I

know people have criticized you heavily

for the barely legal stuff and

everything, but you draw a very firm

legal line there. But do you accept that

underage kids, say between 13 and and

18, 15, 16 year olds are watching your

content?

>> Yeah, they probably are. But they're

watching it anyway. Like it's not just

me they're searching for. They're

searching for other adult content

creators. And that's where it comes down

to the platforms to be have stricter

rules. And I think they have recently

brought in a lot more rules about

underage people watching content. So

that's not down to me. That's down to

your parents. sats down to watching what

your kids are getting up to. Like I

cannot be responsible for what a

13-year-old is is doing.

>> Well, well, you mentioned uh stricter

rules. Uh the government has just had a

consultation and finished the

consultation this week.

>> Yeah.

>> On whether to ban social media for under

16s. Would you like the our country to

go that far the same way Australia did?

>> No.

>> Why not?

>> I just don't think so. Like social media

can be damaging for sure, but so could

drinking on the park with your friends.

You know what I mean? Like at 16 they're

already doing stuff. they're already up

to mischief. The more you restrict them,

the more they're going to go and do

something else anyway. So, I just think

it's more being more careful what

they're up to or restricting certain

things they can search for. Like maybe

if they're under the age of 16, they

can't be searching Bonnie Blue, but they

can still go on social media. Like,

>> but can they? I think they can at the

moment, can't they?

>> They can, but I mean like instead of

just banning social media, which is

ridiculous, these I mean often the news

can be more fake than what social media

is. So, you think it's a sledgehammer to

crack a nut to do the overall ban from?

>> Yeah, I think you should be. It's lazy.

I think just banning it at 16.

>> So, what I I noticed in the Channel 4

documentary, which I rewatched ahead of

speaking to you today,

>> um I I noticed that you pivoted towards

a younger and younger audience, if

that's the word for it. Um and and I

mean people also engage with you as

well, have sex with you as well. Um, is

this a do in your mind are you something

of a sex educator? Is that how you see

yourself?

>> Yes and no. Obviously I can play to that

but it's part of that is rage bait but

part of it like when some of these men

come and sleep with me and I don't just

mean the 18 year olds. I mean the ones

that are in their 40s like you can be a

virgin at any age and you can

>> have a lot of sex but still be so bad in

the bedroom. Like I've had one night

stands. I've dated people in the past

and they think they're amazing but they

are terrible and they need to be

educated. So, like when I have sex with

the public, often I'm saying, "Oh, this

is what I like." Or I'm asking them what

they enjoy. And they become a lot more

confident and comfortable with me. But

I'm not expecting them to throw me

around the room and have me upside down

and making my eyes water and it looks

like my makeup's dripping. Like, it's

very real. Like, sometimes guys last 10

seconds. Sometimes I can't even make

them finish or they can't get hard. So,

but I explain to them that's fine.

That's normal. A lot of people in porn

inject, take tablets. It's so fake. it

so stop start but they don't know that

because they don't see that. So, when I

work with the public, it's nice to be

able to educate them on the reality of

what happens in a professional shoot.

>> But if I if let's say as a fact that

younger kids are watching your content,

>> um I not all of your I'm going to say

something, but it doesn't apply to all

of your content,

>> but to the most extreme edges of your

content that's available online.

>> I'm only speaking for myself. if I when

I was 14 15 and you're starting to well

you you were well ahead of me there but

because 13 was when you changed but you

you you know you're thinking about your

sexual self and how it's developing and

all of that

>> your content would have made me

frightened of sex when I was a child.

Yeah, I think it depends because to me

it's very relatable and I don't mean

because I'm surrounded with loads of

men, but I explain some guys don't get

hard. Sometimes you might not be

naturally wet and that's okay. Whereas I

think if you just to watch content

online, you're made to think your body's

meant to look a certain way. You're

meant to act a certain way as well. And

like that's not normal. Like some of my

tapes I upload, they're 10 seconds, the

guy's giggly and the guy's nervous. And

even I'm like,

>> "Yeah, but you're gorgeous and you

always look gorgeous and loads of other

content providers on only fans and

you're on you're on fans now fansly

now." Um, they do they do attempt anyway

to look gorgeous and you know it. So it

so there is a look, isn't there that

that people want to to

>> fall into a certain look, but the people

I work with don't. And a lot of the time

when you if you just watch someone a

normal content creator's content, both

of them probably fall into that. I work

with people that condoms would need

vacuum sucking onto them because their

penis is small. And that's fine, but you

don't see that in porn. You just see

these massive penises and they look like

they know what they're doing. And

reality is that's not the case. So like,

okay, maybe to some people my content

might look intimidating, but it also

shows to the majority of men, don't

think you need to look like that. Don't

think you need to last like that.

>> I want to talk about this so-called gang

bang culture that that you are part of

without I mean, you are part of it. um

you promulgate it in a way. Um but

again, I don't want to go on about the

fact that you're about to become a

mother because that's not the only thing

about you obviously, but if your child

started to watch your type of content at

the age of 13, 14.

>> Yeah.

>> What would you say to them?

>> I'd explain to them like all sex is

different. Like nothing just cuz one

person looks a certain way or just

because a certain person enjoys a

certain thing doesn't mean you have to.

It's completely normal if you don't

actually want to ever go near a penis

and you just want to go near vagina.

That's fine. Like the biggest thing is

just communication. And this is where I

say I'm not responsible because it's

down to the parents themselves to

educate their children or the people

around them of what's normal or what's

okay or what's acceptable.

>> But and and I know you you broadcast in

a different way than I broadcast. So for

years I worked at the BBC and now I'm an

LBC and we're we're covered by something

called Offcom, which I'm sure you've

heard of. We're covered by Ofcom and

there are certain things because I have

a platform called a program and I can

amplify things on that program. I have

to be responsible about what I amplify

and how I amplify it. Now I know the

online world is different. It's the wild

west in comparison with the kind of

broadcasting I do. But

>> do you ever feel like

then that for you as an individual, you

seem to answer a lot of questions, not

particularly these ones today, but in

other interviews I've seen you tend to

answer a lot of questions by saying not

my problem. I mean, if I did that every

day on the radio, I'd be sacked because

there's all kinds of times I want to say

all kinds of things on the radio and I

can't.

>> Um, and and you can because it's online.

I know there are some limits around the

law obviously, but

>> do you ever feel that you are turning a

blind eye to responsibility?

>> The reason I say not my problem is my

focus in life is to a certain degree to

be selfish. I want to be happy. I want

freedom. I want flexibility. I want

orgasms. I just want fun. So for the

other issues, I say it's not my problem

because it's not it's not my job to my

job is to have fun and

>> Yes, that's fine. But you're amplifying

that quotes fun as you call it in

including gang bangs and I know there's

consent in there. Yeah. In in your

cases, but you know, we've had this

recent dreadful case in Hampshire. I

don't know whether you're aware of it

where two girls in separate cases.

>> Was this where the boys

>> the boys gang raped the girl?

>> And I know that's a different thing.

Yeah,

>> to a degree it's a different thing. Um,

but and again I can't say for sure

whether they'd seen any of your content.

So I'm not accusing you of anything

here. I'm just saying it's it's about

the responsibility of amplifying that

material because boys are going to see

that material and think h wonder whether

I could do that. Girls are going to see

that material and either fear it

happening to them or think maybe I this

is how I have to accept sex when I'm a

teenager. Does that not worry you at all

in terms of responsibility? In terms of

what happened to them girls, it is

disgusting and horrifying and them

parents should be like beyond ashamed of

them kids. And like I will make sure my

kid would never be in the position of

them boys doing something so disgusting

like that. But in terms of them girls

like they wouldn't have to feel scared

because of my content. I say I want to

do this. This is what I enjoy. I never

say all women should do this. All women

should come and do gang bangs. Like I

don't. And even though I do it and I

have it open to the public, you've never

stumbled into a room full of blue ski

mask and they're asking you to get on

your knees. I put myself in them

positions. So I'm referring to me and I

only ever refer to me. I never say if

you are 18, if you want a loyal husband,

you should get on your knees and

everyone, you know, you should have gang

bangs. That is the words I've never come

out of my mouth. So where I say it's not

my problem, it's because too much

responsibility is put onto me. All I'm

responsible for is having sex with

consensual adults that want to be

involved. The rest of it, yes, I could

use my platform for other things, but I

also get blamed for so much stuff which

has nothing to do with me that

>> I'm not blaming you for anything. I'm

just asking you whether you think, you

know, when I was a teenager, I can

barely remember them now, but I I you

know, I would have had influences,

people I wanted to look like or behavior

I thought, okay, that looks good or

places you wanted to go. You must have

had those as well as a teenager. And the

reason I allude to that is that your

content is that now.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, so so boys and girls who are

examining sex and looking at it and

wondering about it and wanting to do it

and deciding how they're going to go

about it. for some of them gang bangs

even though you're talking about just

you and and and you're right to point

out that everybody in that room has

consented to it because you make that

there's a sign they sign consent

>> um that they'll look at that and and

think it's part of sex and it's only

part of sex in a good way where it's

consensual isn't it but you can easily

see a 15 16 year old boy thinking I've

got access to that girl me and my mates

we could do that you can see how it can

become that and I'm not blaming you for

that. I'm just wondering whether it ever

plays on your mind.

>> No, because I always talk about consent.

The words, even if you've watched

anything I've done, the word consent

comes out my mouth multiple times and

it's like this is what I enjoy. But you

could have sex with one person and not

enjoy it. And that's also okay. Like

it's about being confident. And I I

don't have a massive platform for women.

Like you know, my main thing has been

for men. But when I have spoke to women

or when I have done videos purely aimed

at women, I'll often say like you need

to speak up. like you need to say what

you enjoy. If you don't want it hard,

ask for it softer. Like don't feel

ashamed or embarrassed to ask for

different positions.

>> And and that case, you know, you talked

about those those lads being disgusting.

They are and their behavior was

appalling, let alone criminal. Um do you

think that sentence was too lenient? Do

you think they should

>> 100% they should have gone to prison?

like it's I was actually talking about

this like I don't keep up with the news

too much but that popped up on my social

media and it's like they're 100% going

to offend again in the future. They have

had

you know no precaution. They've had no

consequence whatsoever. So the fact they

think it's okay and a judge is able to

sit there and say yeah you're going to

get away free of this is terrible.

Would you work with

groups, whether it's from the government

to the police or to ed schools, would

you work with them to talk about

consent?

>> I mean, some schools might not let you

darken their door. I don't know. But,

um, you know, you're a businesswoman.

There's a commercial element to what

you're doing. You know, you're not a

charity worker helping people with their

sex lives. You may incidentally help

people with their sex lives in some

cases, but

>> would you work with government, for

example, on on those?

>> I would. I don't know if in the future

might be something more suitable. But I

think because I'm so actively filming

and stuff at the moment I don't think

it's the right I would be the right

person. But I also don't think your form

tutor at school that's how when we spoke

about sex

>> is the best person. Like my form tutor

was lovely. She was probably 50 60 and

basically made it so you have sex when

you're married or if you have sex you

have to wear a condom. There was no talk

about you could have sex and it feels

uncomfortable so actually you can go to

the doctor something might be wrong or

you need to switch position. It's kind

of it becomes an embarrassing topic

>> or or you're you're you're right and or

or you're lucky enough to have parents

who just get straight in and talk

plainly about it.

>> It should be more spoken about but it is

hard because it can be awkward and it

needs to come from someone to me

teachers teaching it. It's not that it

doesn't come across that serious or I

know I ignored my teachers at school

half the time. So when they was trying

to teach me or educate me on sex, it was

dismissed. I know it was by most of the

other pupils.

>> And I I'm still not convinced. I mean,

you you are, but I'm not I'm still not

convinced that uh that case in Hampshire

that we talked about and your response

to it is the same as my response to it.

You know, you you feel it the way I feel

it.

>> Um or you see it the way I see it. Um,

I'm still not convinced that we can

afford to be relaxed about boys, any

boys, but particularly boys who would go

on to do that

>> being having easy access to content like

yours.

>> And and again, it's not about blaming

you directly and personally, but

>> it's it's there. You're contributing to

a kind of soup that these kids are

consuming. And it you say don't ban

social media for under 16. So that's not

going to be an option. Um they'll still

be able to consume it. It's having an

impact on girls which we can talk about

more in a minute. But but the boys

element first.

>> Do you never have do you never give a

second thought to what you're

contributing to?

>> I don't give it a second thought in

terms of what I'm contributing to just

because again I talk about consent all

the time. I talk about some days you can

enjoy it. Like I've had sex with one

person before and said, "Actually, you

know, I need to stop. It's it's hurting

or it's uncomfortable." And that's

completely fine. And I I've often

replied to girls, I've got like a BTS

Tik Tok account which shows more behind

the scenes and they're like, "Oh, I had

sex and it it it hurt a little bit." And

I'll explain that's not normal. Like

it's it's not okay if it's hurting you.

But again, I can't be responsible for

>> So these are these underage girls

contacting you for advice or not?

>> No. like they like I have a BTS account

and some of the people will be under the

age of 18 but it's not all about sex but

again with

the content these boys would be seeing

these Netflix documentaries about

murders there is sex on TV and films and

stuff it's not just porn like it's it

happens in everyday life and I think

we're stupid and naive to think if we

was just to ban ban porn

>> or ban you

>> yeah it'd resolve the issue it's not

there is a lot of content out there and

I always forget what it's board, but

it's like consensual, not consensual.

So, off camera, they would have said,

"Okay, you're going to chase me and have

sex with me, and it looks like I'm not

consenting. I'm going to be struggling."

That's really popular in porn. I've

never filmed that, and I really disagree

with it.

>> So, you you you always make it clear in

your films that two two or however many

people here are consenting to it.

>> Yes. But there's content that is out

there on platforms and it's been highly

popular where people are the girls are

pretending like they want to get away or

they don't want it or they're not

enjoying it and those content creators

never get criticized. They've actually

before criticized me whilst having

content on their platform which really

blows the line of consent. I spoke to um

somebody from the charity Bernardos this

week, children's charity, uh who carried

out research and found that huge numbers

of girls between the ages of about 13

and 15, that was the age group they

looked at,

>> were receiving unwanted sexual

messaging,

uh suggestions about sex, pushing them,

uh uh you know, just stuff they had not

invited, imagery, you name it.

>> And I again, I know this happens across

the piece. It's not particularly about

your It's not just about your content at

all. But if you had a son sending these

messages, what would you say to him?

They're not consenting. You can't just

be sending sexual messages. Like if you

want to chat to that girl, speak to a

nicely, take her on a date. Like you

don't need to send a sexual message if

it's not been asked for. Like again,

goes down to consent. And you have to

read the room. If someone doesn't want

it, don't give it to them. M

>> and I asked you earlier about whether

you'd work with government um or schools

or whoever um you know involved with

with the education of young people. Um

there's a lot of judgment about you,

isn't there? There's a lot of people who

would reject you outright because of

what you do in your content. Um and it

may be that all schools or government

might be included. I mean

>> honestly I think people are scared I'm

going to sleep with everyone in the

toilets. Like I have done nightclub

appearances. I have done a whole list of

things and sometimes they're like, "Is

she going to keep her clothes on? Is she

like they are genuinely scared I'm going

to walk into a room and start having sex

with the the cameramen or the the people

in the room and it's it's not the case.

Like I very much understand where I'm

wanted and I'll invite people to come to

me." Do you know what I mean? You never

see me running into a room saying, "Can

you all have sex with me?" And it kind

of goes back to schools or government or

anyone. They're so scared to have me

because they think I'm going to

instantly just break the law and not

have any morals or care about consent.

>> Do you have morals?

>> Yeah. I mean, morals is obviously a word

which is like more opinion based.

Everyone's like, "Oh, she doesn't have

morals." But

>> how would you describe your morals?

>> It's hard cuz everyone says I don't have

morals. I don't have respect for myself.

I have more respect for myself and

stronger morals than I do now than when

I used to have to sit in rush hour, work

for somebody else, book annual leave,

and live the same boring life as

everybody else. Like now my morals are I

want to travel the world. I want to

experience so many things.

>> But they're they're ambitions. They're

not morals.

>> No. But in terms

>> morals are about well my understanding

of morals is is they're about

>> how you go through the world in relation

to other people in relation to their

well-being as well as your own. So how

how would you how would you describe

>> I mean I take great care of people. They

literally produce liquid gold at the end

of their penises at the end of it. Like

in terms of my morals, I'm doing nothing

wrong. And I believe as long as you're

happy,

>> even if it's someone else's husband.

>> Yeah. Again, communication. I've not

dragged him there. I've not dragged him

out of your house. You clearly have

either something wrong at home or

there's something either one of you are

missing. So, in terms of the husbands,

again, not my problem.

>> I I No, I I get that the husband has

made a choice here when he does that.

I'm not trying to pin it all on you, but

but if if that were me

>> Yeah. um whether it's in a porn setting,

it wouldn't be for me, but let's even if

it's in a porn setting or not,

>> if a married person

came to to me and suggested we have sex

or have a relationship,

>> even though I'm not the married one,

>> yeah,

>> I would still say no on the basis that

that person has a family and I don't

want to I don't want to be a single

brick in the wall that's going to harm

that family. Yeah,

>> that to me just an example of what a

moral choice would be. That just happens

to be what I would do. Um, but you you

see it as you you almost see yourself as

neutral in everything you do. You're But

none of us is neutral in everything we

do.

>> But I see it as if that husband came to

you and you said no, he's going to go to

someone else and he's come going to come

to me. Like if it meant I said no, it

meant he went back, continued loving his

wife, looking after his family, and had

a very loving relationship at home. It's

not what happens. If they're already

looking elsewhere, they're going to

continue looking elsewhere. And I see it

as when they come and have sex with me.

Some of the times I don't even get their

name. I don't even see what they look

like. They're in the back of me and I've

not even had a chance to turn around,

but we're doing like, you know, the

consent forms are done downstairs. They

come in and they've got the blue ski

mask on. We're not going on drinks.

We're not flirting at work. We're not

rubbing each other's legs. Like, it's

not emotional. And if I was ever with

someone was to cheat with me, one, I

wouldn't stand by it. too. If there was,

I'd prefer it to be meaningless sex

sometimes as opposed to a loving affair.

>> Why is that?

>> Because of the connection of the

buildup. Whereas when these some of

these people have sex with me, I meet

them once and that's it. Like it's

we're not texting. We're not going

backwards and forwards.

>> Can I ask you about the blue masks?

Because in case people haven't seen

that, there's a lot people who come to

see you when you're being filmed or

perhaps you you would tell me even when

you're not being filmed perhaps,

>> but they they can if they wish wear a

blue ski mask to hide their face.

>> Now again, when I was watching your

documentary, when I saw those images,

that to me looked like even more like a

terrifying gang rape. It just did. And

because it's designed to, isn't it?

>> It's not designed for that. It's purely

designed. A lot of these people have

wives. They've got jobs. They've got

certain things where they do not want to

be showing their face.

>> Can't you just blur their face?

>> Have you seen how many men I sleep with?

I don't think I have enough money to pay

a videographer to blur every single face

in my videos. It's so much effort. And

also, their face can often cross my

body. Then all of a sudden, like some of

my content, I'm at the bottom and I've

got 20, 30 men over me. The whole

thing's just going to be blurred. So

having a blue ski mask on is so much

easier. Not only for my content, it puts

them at ease and they know their face is

covered. I filmed content before and

there that said, "Actually, I did show

my face, but can you blur it?" And I

will, but they're so nervous until I've

proven I've blurred it.

>> How often do you do the gang bang thing?

Cuz I I watched the documentary and

thought and just thought these were

individual stunts, but you do them

fairly routinely, do you?

>> Probably every six to eight weeks. Um,

some aren't as crazy, some are like 20,

some are like five or six, others are

into the hundreds.

>> And since your documentary and since the

whole push for barely legal 18, you

know, you're looking for virgins who are

just about who are 18.

>> Um,

has has the interest from much younger

people increased on your traffic?

it like when I mainly do these events

open to the public. It's more people

probably aged late 20s to early 50s,

it's not loads of 18s queuing up. When I

do things like freshers, slightly

different, but the reason the

18-year-old content for me is so good is

because a lot of my subscribers are

nervous. They wouldn't last long. They

don't know what they're doing and they

would kind of act the same in the

bedroom as what an 18year-old's. So,

it's not necessarily the age, it's their

lack of experience which becomes so

relatable.

>> And you have more you you're continuing

throughout your pregnancy or so far in

your pregnancy to to do

>> your work. And do did I hear right that

you have a stunt planned for June?

>> Yes, I have a baby shower on Saturday,

next Saturday. And I'm inviting the

public to turn my baby shower into a

golden shower.

>> You see, now I'm uncomfortable.

I haven't been uncomfortable at all in

our conversation and you're delightful

to meet. Um, now I'm uncomfortable. This

is your baby. This is your child.

>> Yeah. Again, my body, this is what I'm

choosing.

>> Another body as well.

>> Yeah. But when I you have when you have

sex with them, again, it goes back to

whether you're having sex with one

person, which most people do throughout

their pregnancy, or a group of different

people of different sized penises, it's

the same thing. Like if you couldn't

have sex during pregnancy, I would not

have sex. But you can have sex, so I

will have sex.

>> I I'm not worried about you having sex

in pregnancy. I just think turning a

baby shower or do you regard it as a

fake baby shower?

>> Yeah, it's like a fake baby shower. I

won't be inviting my family.

>> No, but you your baby's with you.

>> Of course, but the baby's with me for

the whole 9 10 months. So

>> just make it a flex event. because I'm

pregnant. Pregnancy is a big fetish for

a lot of people and yeah, who knows? I

might only be pregnant once, so I'm

going to make the most of it.

>> Do you worry, and I didn't expect to go

here in this interview, but do you worry

>> that your baby might be taken off you?

>> No. There's one thing which is social

media and there's one thing which is

reality. And I think well I've seen the

state of some families especially in the

UK and they've got kids and continue to

have kids and get funded by the

government to keep pushing more out. So

I don't worry at all that I'll have my

child taken off me

>> even though you're openly there. I know

you're saying you're not using your

child, but I don't I I would argue that

you are using your child because be

again it's that neutrality thing that

you you use in conversations. I don't

know whether it's planned or whether

it's just how you interpret things, but

>> it isn't neutral to have a baby in the

kind of setting you're just describing.

>> It's not neutral to invite lots of men

in to to be filmed to make money

>> while your baby is growing inside you.

It seems to me that that's not neutral.

>> For sure. I think like most things I do,

you'd probably be disgusted in or you'd

be like,

>> it's not discussed, honestly. It's not.

It's concern, not discuss.

>> Yeah. But again, if people was actually

there, it's it's not as intimidating.

These men are actually really sweet.

They're nice people. But you only see

the idea that I've had sex with all

these men and it's it's not a nice

environment. And that's not the reality.

And it's not it's there's more to show

behind the scenes, but

>> you you talk there about a fet some

people have a fetish for pregnant women.

>> Yeah.

>> Some people have fetishes for babies as

well, don't they? or pretend to be a

baby and want to film themselves with

babies as a baby,

>> you will keep your child entirely

separate from that. Yes. When he or she

is born.

>> Yeah. Like to me, yeah. These people

that dress up as adults, like I've been

in porn shoots and they've had actual

baby rooms and they have adult diapers

and people make sex tapes in there and

they pretend to be a baby. To me, even

though that's above board, I don't like

it. I don't agree with it. But I

understand to other people that they do

that. And there's a certain content

creator that you could probably go and

watch for that, but that's not going to

be me.

>> But until your baby's born, he or she

has to come along for the ride.

>> Yeah, it's again, if the sex was

harmful, I wouldn't do it, but it's not

harmful. And it would just be down to a

people's opinion whether they agree and

a lot of people won't agree with it and

it's going to have a shock factor to it

and people are going to be,

you know, angered and that's part of it.

>> And don't answer this question if you

don't want to. It's entirely up to you.

Um, It's not the kind of question I

would normally ask any woman, but

because of the kind of conversation

we're having, I feel I can, but you can

tell me off the phone.

>> Um, do you know the father of your baby?

>> It's one of many. I'll leave it as that.

>> Now you're doing Now you're doing

businesswoman stuff, don't you?

>> It's part of my life with the baby or

with my personal life. And it's always

been the case. I only share so much. Um,

and it will always stay like that.

>> Okay. Thank you very much for your time.

Thank you.