Chow Lectures 2025 by Nima Arkani-Hamed: Geometry & Combinatorics of Scattering Amplitudes Part I
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Um well, it's a really a tremendous
pleasure and honor uh to be here and I'd
say a surprise. Um you know, if you
asked me uh 10 or 15 years ago whether
I'd be giving fancy cow lectures to a
group of distinguished mathematicians,
some of you are distinguished for sure.
Well, there's one at least. uh in
Leipzig I would have thought you're uh
totally nuts. Uh I'm obviously not a
mathematician. Uh I'm not even a
mathematical physicist. I'm a physicist
who loves math. That's not the same
thing. Uh um but uh this has happened um
15 years ago. I've spent uh two years of
my life where my dominant collaborators
were experimental particle physicists at
the Large Adron Collider. And somehow
it's come to be that I've spent the last
10 years of my life where my dominant
collaborators, my most exciting
collaborations have been with
mathematicians. Uh and this is a
reflection of the grandeur of the
physical universe and the platonic
mathematical universe and their still
mysterious and wonderful connection uh
that it managed to uh bring these groups
of people together. I I suspect it would
have also been a shock to a
combinatorialists or uh you know
algebraic geometers to think that
anything that they're thinking about
would have to do with very basic physics
you know fundamental very basic process
that happen in the world all the time
you know not uh esoteric questions about
the partition function of complicated
theory X on complicated manifold Y but
what happens when things are going on in
the real world right outside our window.
Um it's remarkable. It's a surprise and
uh so um I'm I'm delighted to be here uh
to be able to say something about what's
going on. So indeed that's what's going
on. There's been over the past 15 years,
really longer, but from this sort of
particular point of view that we're
talking about for the past 10 or 15
years, uh accelerating uh through to the
present, some indication of a deep
connection between very basic physics uh
physics having to do with the scattering
of elementary particles, more recently
physics having to do with uh uh the
creation of structure in the universe
and cosmology on the one hand and uh I
would say what seems to me as an
outsider very basic in deep parts of
mathematics. Um and uh another
interesting aspect of this uh connection
is it's uh not like at least the most
stereotypical version of the interaction
between math and physics that that we
learn about in uh you know in school in
in lay history. Um the the stereotypical
interaction is either that math is a
century ahead of physics. uh
mathematicians come up with group
theory, they come up with differential
geometry and 50 or 100 years later uh
the physicists find this exactly what
they need in order to make progress in
physics. Nor is it the other way around.
That's sort of been the situation I
would say with the interaction between
quantum field theory and modern
mathematics over the past 40 years that
because physicists uh well namely Edward
Whitten but some other physicists also
have an amazing intuition for what the
path integral does uh that leads to lots
of amazing mathematical predictions that
then mathematicians have to go try to
understand from their own way. So if
there the sort of physicists are ahead
in some sense and the mathematicians are
catching up. This has been a different
subject. This has been a subject where
somehow again rather mysteriously
physicists and mathematicians are
running into roughly the same structures
roughly simultaneously and so it's been
actually good not for bureaucratic
reasons. So you can say we sit together
in the same room and have
interdisciplinary conversations but uh
when it's actually useful it's actually
useful to uh uh to to uh to to to
discuss the kind of the same objects
being seen from different points of
view. And it's been a persistent and
wonderful shock to me over and over
again in a number of different settings
how how this has happened.
All right. So um uh so anyway that's the
uh that's uh the topic for these uh
lectures is tell you something about
that. Now before I proceed I just want
to have a rough idea just a show of
hands. How many people at least before
this morning's lectures how many people
knew what a positive grossmanian was?
Okay excellent. Very good. How many
people uh know what spinner holicity
variables are? Okay, fewer. Momentum
twisters.
Okay. Um
um that's good. Okay. So um so th this
this uh this talk is not going to be uh
targeted uh at the experts. I'll have
some things uh I'll have some things I
mean this set of talks not going to be
targeted only at the experts. Um and I
don't have any very fixed uh I have a
rough set of things that I want to talk
about but um it it'll be uh
exponentially better to uh have uh have
a real interaction. So stop me to do
concrete examples. Anything you want to
do we can slow down arbitrarily and talk
about arbitrarily elementary points. I
love nothing more than elementary points
because I understand them well. So it's
enjoyable to explain things I understand
well. Um uh so please do uh uh stop me
with the uh questions about any subject
as we're as we're going.
Okay. So um so let me just begin by
setting the stage and I'll I'll then get
in a bit to what the lectures are going
to be about. But a picture that you've
seen uh a number of times um uh to at
least begin with we're talking about the
very basic physics of elementary
particle uh scattering processes. So we
have scattering uh processes and
amplitudes
and their amplitudes.
Okay. And uh the sort of most basic
picture is you might imagine sort of two
particles come in. So there's some
instate uh something happens and there's
a bunch of outstates.
Um and so uh this this first picture
well looks like what it is. It's a it's
an evolution of of a process in space
and time, right? Things start at minus
infinity, something happens and you
measure something at uh plus infinity.
The world is quantum mechanical. So, uh
when you uh when you prepare exactly the
same initial states, something different
comes out every time. So, we can't
calculate uh uh we can't say exactly
what happens next, but we can calculate
the probabilities for uh for this
particular process to happen. The
probability of in to out is the mod
squar of this amplitude of a scattering
amplitude for in to out.
One of the very very first things that
you do in textbooks uh when you learn
this in in in grad school is already uh
change this formula so that you don't
actually have a distinction between
who's in and out. So one thing that we
say is that uh we have energy and
momentum conservation. So, so each one
of the particles I'll denote the
particle label by a. A will be one to
the total number of particles involved
in the scattering process. And let's say
if we're in four dimensions, these would
be four vectors. So these have an energy
component and a spatial momentum
component.
And if the particles have a mass m,
these are constrained by
this equation. Uh that the particles
might even have different masses. So
that's the that's Einstein's formula for
the energy of the particle uh given its
momentum. This is sometimes called the
mass shell because uh as you can see in
energy momentum space there's some
hyperbooid. Okay. So you have to lie on
a hyperbooid in uh energy momentum uh
space. So this is called being on the
mass shell. So the particles are on the
mass shell and we also have energy and
momentum conservation. Let me just write
it in the small here. that says the sum
over the P ins
uh is equal to the sum over the P outs.
Okay. Well, one of the first things that
you learn when thinking about uh
amplitudes is that uh we can um let me
write this up here. Uh we can trade this
for a function that only depends uh
democratically on a on a bunch of p
where we don't have to say who's in and
out. Okay, so there's a function that's
actually an analytic function of an
analytic enough function of the momenta
where you just get to decide whether pa
zero. If the if the energy component is
less than zero by conventional we say
it's incoming or outgoing and if it's
bigger than zero we say it's outgoing.
Okay. So right from the start you
actually deal with a completely
symmetric function right at least we
don't don't make any distinctions
between in and out and you get to decide
who's in and who's out by controlling
the uh the sign of the energy component.
OKAY THAT'S ALREADY A NON-TRIVIAL FACT
that this is true. This is a statement
about what this function looks like. It
has it's analytic enough that you can do
an analytic continuation from from some
set of one set of signs to another set
of signs. This is a property that's not
obvious. It's called crossing symmetry
in quantum field theory. It's not
obvious uh but it ends up being being
true. It has very uh not uh satisfying
proofs. Uh but in any case, we're going
to just take it uh take it to be true.
When you work uh in perturbation theory
uh and especially at uh in the simplest
tree amplitudes, it's an obvious
statement about the what the functions
look like. They're simple rational
functions. This sort of analytic
continuation is obvious.
But right away I want you to observe
from here something interesting has
happened in in this is the year 1950.
Okay that that this idea of the
amplitude is a matrix that takes you
from the past to the future is already a
little bit dissolved right you know so
it does not already does not have an
interpretation necessarily of an in to
out. It's something that's uh has all
the particles on an equal footing. Okay.
So this is the object that we're going
to be talking about and often we label
it by the uh number of particles
participating in the scattering process.
Now one of the famous things in this
subject is that the amplitudes are I'm
going to use this thing. So um we can uh
the the the sort of textbook picture for
for calculating amplitudes is using
fineman diagrams. Okay. So, so we draw
these pictures
um
where again you know what what's
happening I I want to stress this point
uh maybe mathematicians will appreciate
it more than physicists do um because
vis have just gotten so used to thinking
about these pictures um but what's
really happening is the experimentalist
wakes up in the morning in Geneva
collides a bunch of particles goes and
has their espresso and comes back in the
evening to see what the output of the
collisions is right that's what's
actually happening. In other words, the
measurements are done in some uh
idealized way at infinity infinite past
and infinite future.
If you then ask what IS A STORY FOR WHAT
HAPPENED? HOW CAN I COME up with a
theory that explains what what what
happens? That's when the theoretical
physicist comes along and says you know
what's happening. These particles are
moving through space and time and this
crashed into that one and this made this
one and that went that way and this did
that and this did that. Right? This is a
story that theoretical physicists give
to give an accounting a rational
accounting for what the outcome of this
process is. Okay, nobody sees this,
right? None of us are riding along with
the proton at the LHC to see what's
happening with the quarks and gluons
inside the proton as they smash into
each other. Okay, but it's a story we
tell. It's a true story. It's a correct
picture of what is going on. But it is
we're now learning one story you can
tell for what is going on. Okay. So, and
the purpose of this story, the purpose
of the textbook formalism is to make
manifest two very important properties.
The two important properties are the
two, you know, big principles of modern
physics. We want to uh manifest that we
have a picture of space-time processes
that are local.
In other words that we don't have
interactions between random points
separated in in uh in space and time. So
locality is one of the big principles uh
Lorent invariance the picture of special
relativity and locality is one of the
big principles of uh modern physics and
secondly quantum mechanics. Okay. So,
uh, and this is where Richard Fineman
taught us that the way to think about
quantum mechanics is by drawing all
possible histories and summing over all
possible histories. Again, in a
classical world, there would be a single
history for what happened. Classical
physics is deterministic. Quantum
mechanics is not. And so, you have to
sum over all the possible histories for
what's happened. That's why we have to
sum over all the uh diagrams. So, the
sort of technical word for this is
locality. And the technical word for
this is unitarity. Okay? that that that
there there there's a matrix this this
amplitude if I go back to in to out this
amplitude for in to out is the uh uh is
the
is some uh matrix or an operator that's
sandwiched between the in andout states
and unitarity the statement this has a
consistent interpretation as quantum
mechanical probabilities that says that
this matrix has to satisfy that it's
unitary that saguras equals one okay so
those are the two big principles of 20th
century physics and um this textbook
picture is built to make them as
manifest as possible. Right? So when you
have the picture of finding diagrams,
setting overall diagrams, you then go to
you know grad school for a semester or
or a year and you learn how these
principles are sort of translated into
the rules that uh precisely take us from
these pictures to the final answer.
Okay. So what I want to stress is that
the standard picture is completely
correct. Nothing wrong with it. Um it's
totally universal unlike the things
we're talking about now which are not
yet totally universal. Okay? So we're
far from being totally universal. Okay.
Um but the reason to be looking for an
alternate picture is first of all I mean
just purely logically no one said I mean
we don't know all WE ALL WE HAVE ACCESS
to is in and out right? So it's entirely
logically possible that there's a
different picture for what might be
going on inside a different machine that
whose crank you turn to produce the
answer that does not involve drawing
these pictures. Okay,
we have various reasons for looking
looking for such a picture. We have
various uh conceptual reasons internally
within physics for looking for such an
alternate picture because for a whole
variety of reasons we expect that the
notion of space and time eventually
breaks down at very very short short
distances because of uh questions
involving putting quantum mechanics and
gravity together. We even expect for
very subtle questions involving applying
quantum mechanics to the entire universe
that quantum mechanics might have to be
extended in some way in very very
extreme situations. So these two giant
principles of the 20th century are both
under question. They're both likely to
be superseded in whatever next picture
of physics uh uh we end up getting. Uh
that transcension is going to be at
least as dramatic as whatever took us
from classical physics to quantum
mechanics because we have to figure out
how to get rid of spaceime and how to
move beyond the quantum mechanics.
And it's such a radical thing that if
it's true, it's very unlikely it'll
leave all the rest of physics untouched.
And so it must be there's al there must
be if if spacetime is not really there
if quantum mechanics is somehow
transcended it cannot be that uh that
when we think about these these simple
basic processes where there's no reason
to question the presence of a spaceime
no reason to expect quantum mechanics is
breaking down. Nonetheless if they're
not really there in in in the true
theory of nature there must be a way of
talking about these things also uh
without putting them in as sort of
hardwired into the description of the
physics. And this has happened to us
before in physics when we went precisely
when we went from classical physics to a
quantum mechanics. We underwent such a
transition. It seems as shocking as
possible to lose determinism. If you
tell a classical physicist in the year
1850 that in 1930 determinism is gone.
They'd be totally shocked. How could it
be the Newtonian clockwork universe is
working perfectly. Everything is great.
The industrial revolution depends on it.
Right? All this stuff. How could it be
that uh determinism is lost? And the
answer is in a subtle way. Right? U so
if you if you told that to a a physicist
in 1850, they might wonder whether
there's some way of talking about
physics in such a way that determinism
is not the star of the show. Uh that
they're getting this clue from the
future. They might wonder if there's a
way of thinking about physics where
determinism is not the star of the show.
And they're not going to guess quantum
mechanics. It's crazy that they're going
to guess quantum mechanics just from the
clue that determinism is gone. But they
can take uh inspiration and try to
recast classical physics in such a way
that determinism is not the star of the
show. Of course, it turns out there is
such a way of recasting classical
physics. It's the principle of least
action. The lrangeian uh picture of
physics. When you first learn it in
school, it's very surprising. It looks
like the particle goes from A to B, not
by slavishly following Fals MA at every
point, but by sort of sniffing out all
the paths it can take from A to B and
choosing the one that minimizes the
action. That's a way of talking about
physics that definitely does not look
deterministic on the face of it. Right?
Of course, it turns out to be uh
deterministic. It turns out to be a
rewriting of Newton's laws in some
cases, but it's a way of thinking about
Newton's laws where the idea of
determinism is not central. And of
course, we now know today that this
other way of thinking about classical
physic action is the way that uplifts
the quantum mechanics. Okay? So, uh not
Newton's laws. You know you don't begin
with Newton's law and do a small
modification to it to get quantum
mechanics. You do start from the
principle of least action and do a small
modification of it to find this picture
of summing over all the history. So this
is a mysterious thing about physics that
at any given moment in time the laws can
be cast in numerous different ways
starting from seemingly radically
different starting points. Some of them
are better suited for the leap to the
next level of description than others.
And so if you have a clue for what
you're going to lose in the future, it's
inspiration to go back and dislodge that
from your way of thinking now. Okay. So
this is very abstract, very highfulutin,
almost content-free seeming uh uh
motivation for trying to learn how to
fill this blob with something else. We
don't want to have a picture of diagrams
and space-time processes. We want to
think that there's some other machine in
here, some some question mark that we're
looking for that's going to give us the
answer without drawing pictures of
space-time uh trajectories. That's the
something that that we're looking for.
>> So, do you mean something like
non-connected graphs?
>> Sorry.
>> Do you mean something like a
non-connected graph?
>> It will have nothing to do with graphs.
>> Okay. So, we that's that's that's I mean
it's it's a big question mark. Okay. So,
we're going to fill that with uh with
something else, but we're going to get
more concrete about this as as as we go
on. Yes, there was a question I ignored
all this time. Yes, sorry.
>> Um, could you please explain a bit more
locality thing that you said and did you
at some point mentioned the change
between in and out?
>> What do you mean by that? Can you
explain this?
>> Yes. The the the the change between in
and out is just the following cool fact
that you can have let's say two
processes where particles A and B go in
and particle CDE E F go out. Okay,
that's one process. That's clearly
different than the process particle ABC
goes in, particles DEF, F go out. Those
are two obviously different processes.
The remarkable thing IS THAT THERE'S ONE
AND THE SAME function that calculates
both of them. Okay, there's just a
single function that depends on six
momenta P1 P A B CDE E F. And then
depending on whether the signs of the
energies, the zero components of those
P's are positive or negative, you get to
interpret that as a process where some
things are in and some things are out.
So you don't need reversing in and out.
You changing.
>> No, no, just changing in and out. Not
reversing in and out. Just just
declaring who's in and and uh who's out.
That's not at all obvious that those
things should be related to each other.
I'm saying at a super early point this
picture that all we're doing is making a
matrix that's unitary is somehow already
missing something very basic because the
object doesn't even have this matrix
interpretation really, right? It's just
something that democratically depends on
lots of uh uh lots of momenta.
>> What about locality? Well, locality is a
statement that uh you can't reach out
and touch someone, right? That uh that
uh that there's uh that that that things
can only interact when they're on on top
of each other. You can't pick up a phone
and talk to your friend in Alpha
Centtory uh as quickly as you like. Uh
and that's a very basic uh principle. Um
uh it's even a basic principle before
relativity, but but but acquires much
more significance after relativity when
you believe there's finite speed of
propagation for any signals. Okay. an
upper bound for the speed of propagation
for any signal. So fundamentally things
should only uh interact with each other
when they're on on top of each other.
Okay. All right.
So that's one set of reasons for looking
for a different way. I mean the zero
thing is that there might be a different
way. The first one is these highulutin
abstract statements about uh learning to
do physics uh without uh the rules of
spacetime and quantum mechanics as being
king. But the most practical thing is
that when you use the standard way of
thinking about things in terms of
refinement diagrams, it for sure gives
you the CORRECT ANSWERS. NO DOUBT IT
CORRECT GIVES you the correct answers,
BUT IT GIVES YOU THE CORRECT ANSWER, BUT
but it leads you to qualitatively
incorrect inconclusions about what the
answer should look like, right? And so
this is that's one what's been uh uh
alluded to a number of times is the
explosive complexity
uh of finding diagram calculations
and uh uh for very simple reason first
of all the number of diagrams depending
on the kind of theory we're talking
about either grows factorially or
exponentially with n. Okay. So can just
uh um uh the number of terms similarly
can grow factorially or uh exponentially
but very practically if we talk about
sort of a collision between two protons
at the uh uh at either at the LHC or
again just you know when a cosmic ray
hits the upper atmosphere and this is
happening gazillions of times a second
uh everywhere around us right so uh so
the the the the proton is made out of
quarks they're held together by gluons
uh Um so for example one process that
happens here is that one gluon from this
proton collides with another gluon from
this proton and something happens and
let's say two gluons go out. Um this is
something that you put on a problem set
and you know if the students don't do
well you don't take them as graduate
students. Okay. So um the next uh
problem is if you have uh two gluons
come in and three gluons go out. And
this you would be very cruel to put on
the problem set because this already is
like 30 pages of algebra. Just a
horrendous horrendous mess. You would
never torture someone with this
calculation. Uh you put four gluons out.
That was the 220 diagrams that were
referred to in one of the talks uh uh
this morning. 100 pages of algebra,
right? Five. If you write big like I do,
500 pages of algebra, right? Uh and
okay. Well, that's just what it looks
like. Uh you see not EVERY QUESTION IN
PHYSICS IS guaranteed to have a simple
answer and it's part of the chauvinism
of fundamental physics as to declare
interesting only those questions that
have simple answers and all the other
questions to call engineering. Okay. So
this looks like a classic example of
engineering. Right. However also physics
has a wonderful way of punishing people
who look down on engineers and rewarding
morally good behavior. Okay. Because
some people JUST HAVE TO DO THIS
CALCULATION. They they just have to do
it. They had to do it because
experimentalists needed the answer. By
the way, experimentalists need answers
for up to like eight gluons coming out
today if you want to like you know
interpret data from the uh from the from
the LHC. So this is not esoterica. These
are we we really need these uh to
compare theory uh and experiment.
Okay. But in this famous calculation by
Park and Taylor in the late 80s I don't
remember uh the year was it 87? Uh
anyway uh sometime in the uh late late '
80s people found an amazing uh surprise.
So these gluons are particles like
photons. They have a spin or
polarization. So you can have photons
that are positively or negatively uh
circularly polarized. Similarly, you can
think of the gluons as being positively
or negatively circularly polarized. And
the shocking result is that as it turns
out for any number of particles, if you
have the amplitude for gluons one
through n and let's say they're all
positively polarized or all negatively
polarized, the amplitude is zero.
Not at all obvious. Those hundreds of
pages are adding up to zero, right? Or
if one of them is positive and the rest
are negative, it's also zero.
And the amazing thing is if two of them
are uh negative then it has this famous
uh can you see down here or should I
maybe I'll use it I'll I'll do here
there is this famous result
that
uh by park and Taylor oops
this sort of one term expression okay
So,
so we know that that in fact in this
case
and I'll be more precise about this uh
uh in a bit but uh but if if two of them
are negative and everything else is
positive and they're negative in
locations i and j one two up to n that
this amplitude I'll define what these
symbols mean later. Those of you who
know what they know them know them, but
we'll be talking about them in a bit. Is
this like studying oneline expression?
Okay.
So, this is not this is not supposed to
be obvious. Okay. Um and uh in fact, for
five particles, uh nothing you can do,
right? At least two of them have to have
they're either all the same sign, one of
them is one, the rest or it's this. So
for for all those 30 pages of algebra
either give you zero or this incredible
one term expression and similarly the
few hundred 500 pages of algebra for
this elicitity configuration collapsed
to a single term and okay now this is
this is very very striking. Now back
then in the late 80s when this was
discovered this was not universally
recognized as the tip of a giant
iceberg. Today we know it's a tip of a
giant iceberg. Um and that's the it's
the iceberg that uh we want to be uh uh
exploring uh in these lectures. So but
we now know I mean you could have
already taken this as a strong hint back
then but we now know that this is
happening because while the standard
picture is definitely correct once again
nothing wrong with it. It leads you to
expect that these processes have 500page
uh long computations when the result is
a single term. Right? And so it strongly
suggests the existence of another
picture of the world, a different
picture of the world where the fact that
this is the answer is obvious. And
presumably there's no free lunch, right?
So what's not going to be obvious in
that picture? What's not going to be as
obvious anyway is that there's something
like spacetime and quantum mechanics
going on. Right? You make space time and
quantum mechanics obvious.
Thank you. Right? So if you're going to
see the oneline expression, presumably
the space time in quantum mechanics is
not going to be as obvious and it's
going to have to sort of come out from
some other set of ideas, right?
And ahead of time it's clear before you
embark on trying to discover what this
question mark is or this other way of
thinking about things are it should be
totally obvious ahead of time that new
physical ideas will be needed. That's
obvious physical question. You're trying
to reformulate physics in some way. I
think it's equally clear that new
mathematical ideas are needed. Why?
BECAUSE THE ACTUAL FUNCTIONS THAT WE GET
IN the end, no matter how you DO THE
COMPUTATION, THE ACTUAL FUNCTIONS that
we get for the amplitudes, they're not
these like Mickey Mouse functions.
They're not signs and cosiness or little
polomials. They're are very rich
complicated functions with all kinds of
there might be rational functions with
very complicated intricate patterns of
poles. They might be transcendental
functions with all sorts of remarkable
properties. They're normally the output
of this giant machine that's called
quantum field theory, textbook quantum
field theory. if they're going to be the
output of some other machine that cannot
be some Mickey Mouse thing. It also has
to have some, you know, interesting
growth to it to uh to be able to uh uh
uh accomplish this. Okay. So, uh so it's
clear that we're we're looking for
things that have uh uh both new physical
and new mathematical ideas. And I'll say
a little bit about what those uh ideas
are in a bit.
Um but
so let me just say what what our sort of
program is that we'll be talking about
in these lectures. Um so we want to find
you know uh sometimes people describe
uh this research as you know simplifying
calculations for amplitudes. Um and that
is does not interest me one iota. Okay.
I in fact if this question mark turns
out to be more COMPLICATED I WOULDN'T
CARE that much. uh uh the the fact the
answers are so simp shockingly SIMPLE IS
A CLUE THAT this other picture exists
but for me is definitely not an an end
to itself. I actually don't personally
care about these amplitudes that much.
Um
what I care about is the story they're
telling us about the principles of space
time and quantum mechanics. That's what
I really really care about. Um
um and so that's what we're what we're
so we're not looking to find some tricks
to make the calculations simpler. That's
incredibly important for getting
theoretical data, right? You know, had
these people not there done this
unbelievably heroic work to get to that
oneline answer. We would not have gone
down this uh this line of work. So
there's absolutely nothing wrong with
tricks. It's just not what I'm
personally interested in. It's not
tricks. It's not starting with the
expression and manipulating it, changing
variables until you get something a
little simpler at the end. The goal is
to sort of turn everything on its head
and find a different question to which
the amplitudes are the answer. That's
what we want to do. Okay. So, we want to
find so that's been the mantra for a
long time. You know, what is a new
question
to which the amplitudes are the answer?
Okay, that's what we're interested in.
So again we want to fill in this
question mark here right there's some
other thing which is going on to produce
uh uh crappy question mark okay to
produce uh the uh uh amplitudes
and okay now where is this question
going to live
right this question is going to live
you see the conventional uh the
conventional thing is to fill in the
interior here with space-time
trajectories Okay. So definitely we
should not have any picture of
space-time trajectories.
On the other hand, THE AMPLITUDES DEPEND
on things. They depend on the moment of
the particles. Those momenta are things
that you see at infinity. Okay. So the
amplitudes depend on something you can
call the sort of kinematic space. Okay.
So um
so this question that we're looking for
should live in the kinematical space
that that specifies the amplitude. Okay.
So we're looking for a question
in the kinematical space
that specifies the scattering process.
whose answer
is equal to the amplitude whose answer
is a okay
what is this kinematic space again the
the the amplitudes sometimes I'm calling
a sometimes I'm calling m sorry for
example in the simplest way they really
depend on n momenta
okay these are these on shell momenta
that we just talked about so pi in a
lorrenian variant we'd say pi^2= m^2 on
shell momenta
So this is my kinematic space. The space
of n momenta and four vectors. Okay. So
that's the first thought about what this
kinematic space is. Okay. So we we we
descend from these lofty heights with a
thud that we somehow have to find a
question in the space of P1, P2, P3 up
to P. Okay. We have to find an
interesting mathematical question in
that space whose answer is the
amplitude.
Right?
we refuse to talk about. So if I uh one
of the physical ideas here, let me put
it here.
See when you draw a finding diagram like
this, even the sort of simplest example
of a finding diagram here, you'd have a
particles one and two and three and
four. And here we'd have this
intermediate particle whose momentum is
given by P1 plus P2.
Okay? And so it's plain that uh it's
plain that if p1 squar let's say is
equal to zero the particles are massive.
If p1 square p2 square is equal to zero
this does not mean that p intermediate
squar is equal to zero is not equal to
zero in general. Okay that's why we call
these things in textbooks virtual
particles. They're not real because
they're not on shell. They're also not
real because they don't go click click
click in an experimentalist detector.
They don't travel over infinite
distances, okay, which real particles
do.
Fman diagrams are littered with these
virtual particles and that's again
they're there in order to make locality
in quantum mechanics manifest. They're
also directly responsible for the
explosion in complexity. Okay, so the
physical idea is to banish virtual
particles. We never want to talk about
virtual particles. We somehow want to do
physics where we never talked about the
notion of a virtual particle.
Okay, that's physical one of the one of
the physical ideas. And so that means
that the the space uh the kinematic
space in this case is just a space of n
momenta. Right?
Now in fact we're going to uh uh we're
going to
>> do a little more. Um let me just mention
a couple of natural choices of the
kinematic space.
But so if you think about momenta, do
you think like about spacetime in the
background or like I mean
>> no no these are just things that are
these are just things that specify
what's being observed at infinity. Okay.
So so uh so these you know these four
moments are really labeled by three
things right because they're they're on
shell. So so uh so that's right. Now
there's no there there's some space
here. It's not space time. It's not the
conventional space. This is just a space
of n4 vectors. Okay. uh that are each on
shelf in the space. There's no notion of
time. There's no notion of two things
being close together. There's no notion
of a metric. This is as arid and boring
a space as it seems like like you might
have. Okay. Um yes.
>> Sorry. Could you please elaborate why uh
the right question for you is to ask
what question the amplitude is an
answer? Well, uh, it's a it's a question
that I'm, uh, it's a question I I I try
to, uh, motivate. Um, but if you like,
it's trying to be as as closely tied
into the actual observable as possible.
This kind of philosophy has had a uh,
sometimes glorious, sometimes tragic
history in physics, okay? Where you take
the attitude to to stick to the
observables as much as you possibly can.
Sometimes it's been an excellent idea,
sometimes it's led people astray. I'm
making a bet this time is going to not
lead us astray and it's a good idea.
Okay, but we want to hold on as much as
possible to the direct observables. The
virtual particles you do not see all
those momenta inside the diagrams you do
not see. What you do see are the asmtoic
momenta. So that's the space we're going
to live in. That's the space in which uh
we're going to ask our questions. So
there's actually a few versions of the
kinematic space. This is going to be
loose. We're going to make it more
precise as you'll see. uh but there's
kind of this is kind of our canvas right
our canvas could be one it could be the
space of for momenta thought of
individually okay so this is really like
a space of you know four vectors it's
like a 4 byn matrix okay so my kinetic
my my kinematic space is a space of 4
byn matrices
we're going to have to ask a question of
the space of 4 byn matrices and get an
amplitude out as as an answer
possibility So this is kinematic space
one. Another sort of qualitatively
different possibility
closely related but not the same is to
take advantage of the fact that we know
the theory is lorent variance. So uh the
amplitudes should not I'm still being a
little bit loose here. They should not
depend on the individual momenta they
should depend on dot products of
momenta. The answer only depends on dot
products of momenta. So here the
kinematic space will be made OUT OF DOT
PRODUCTDUCTS OF MOMENTA.
OKAY. So it's very similar but in one in
one uh in this case the kinematic space
is like you know 4 by matrix d by a
matrix in this case it's like a roughly
n²
and
uh is that we've been finding in this
kinematic space a question
uh to which the amplitude is the answer
and they've really roughly come in two
waves. The first wave was something very
close to this and this is a story of the
amplahedron. Okay, so we're going to
talk about this
a second wave starting in 2017. So this
is going back to starting sort of 2009
up to 2013 or so. uh second wave started
in 2017 thinking about this as the
essential uh uh kinematic space and this
first of all connected to the associ'll
say more what this is about but uh which
developed into a more general story of
amplitudes associated with curves on
surfaces
or some sometimes what we're calling
surfaceology.
Okay,
in both of these cases, there's a sort
of a uniform picture for uh what the
character of the question is. And I want
to uh uh even though the the nature of
the questions end up being quite
different in the two cases. Okay. Um but
the sort of character is basically the
same. And this is going to be a cartoon.
Okay. But here we have our kinematic
space.
Okay.
And in the kinematics space there's
going to be a natural region P that you
can call the positive region. Okay. So
there's going to be some notion of
positivity is is going to make a crucial
appearance in uh in this story. So
there's going to be a positive region in
this kinematic space.
Uh and the scattering amplitudes sorry
the scattering amplitudes are going to
also be associated with certain
differential forms that live in this
kinematic space. They're not even going
to be top forms in general. there going
to be some lower dimensional forms that
live in this uh that live in this
kinematical space. They're going to be
some little d-dimensional forms. Uh
we'll say what little d is later.
But in this big uh kinematical space,
there's also going to be some natural
little d-dimensional subspace. Okay, so
there's some uh little uh uh
d-dimensional
uh subspace.
The intersection of this subspace with
this positive region P is going to be a
shape.
That shape is going to be a positive
geometry.
And this form you see the this form just
lives in the just lives in the in the
kinematic space. It is a form right
everywhere. But it's finally entirely
determined by the requirement that when
you take this form that lives everywhere
and you pull back to this uh uh uh
subspace, let me call it S SD. When I
take this omega that lives everywhere
and I and I pull back onto this subspace
SD, this is the canonical form
for this uh for this uh you can call it
the sort of generalized
which is the intersection of this
positive region with that plane. All
right.
Right. That's the sort of general story
which has emerged.
Now the story of the amplahedrin from
the 2013 PAPER DID NOT YET LOOK LIKE
THIS. In fact uh uh uh if we did not
hear about the B ample earlier today, we
would not have seen it. Okay. So so
there's been some developments to bring
things uh to the form where we can talk
about it in this language directly
formulated in the kinematic space. Okay.
Um and that's what I want to tell you a
little bit about is uh is uh sort of
conceptually what is going on and how
that how that works. But this story ends
up being exactly the same for the two
pictures. Just the nature of the
positive region and the nature of the
subspaces depends on whether it's the
amplahedron or the other story involving
uh involving surfaceology. But it's it's
always the same. Amplitudes are
canonical forms of positive geometries.
Where do those positive geometries live?
They live in kinematic space. What
determines them? that some interesting
intersection of a positive region with
some appropriately chosen uh sub spaces.
Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Excuse me.
>> All right. So um so with that uh with
that yes there was a question. Yes.
>> Repeat the motivation why you expect
amplitude in the dots of
>> oh yes that's just I mean this is again
somewhat loose. uh if you have the
particles with spin there's other uh
things as well you can talk about
polarization vectors but in general all
the data are various vectors or tensors
or even spinners that are uh that
transform into the lorren group but
since the amplitudes of lorren invariant
they only depend on lent in variant
combinations okay so if you only have
momenta then uh they only depend on
these dot dot dot products the main
thing that I want to emphasize is the
difference between things that depend on
the particles individually versus that
depend on pairs of particles
Okay. And you'll see when we do
particles individually, we'll be in the
world of brasmanians, amphetra, blah
blah blah. And here we'll be in the
world of surfaces, curves on surfaces.
Why curves on surfaces? Because a curve,
an open curve on a surface has a a
beginning point and an end point. Okay?
And that tuness of where it starts and
end is reflected in the tuness of the
fact that that our kinematic space
depends on uh dot products here. All
right.
Now so so uh so so with this very rough
guide let me uh just say what my plan is
for the lecture. So uh today what I'd
like to do is talk about the ample talk
about this story and we had uh a very
very nice uh uh uh lecture this morning
on on the cominatorics of the amplrin. I
thought maybe for this audience I would
explain a little bit where the ample
came from. Okay, where it came from, why
it's not such a crazy seeming thing. um
uh and you know what what uh what what
the motivations were just so you see
sort of step by step uh uh how it
emerged and also how it finally leads to
this picture because if you're familiar
with amplitude the y equals c.z picture
looks absolutely nothing like this.
Okay. So um so it was a number of steps
to get to that picture between 2013 and
2017 um that that's associated with the
picture uh that we heard about this
morning that defines the empahedron in
terms of these twister variables which
uh anyway have a very natural uh uh
interpretation in terms of this uh uh
kinematic space. Um and uh and uh
strangely enough only after that picture
for the amplahedron was developed in
2017 DID IT BECOME POSSIBLE TO SEE THIS
IN IN HINDSIGHT much much simpler
picture for these simple scalar
theories. Um that however was missing
the sort of key idea of looking for this
pattern okay of a positive region and a
bigger kinematic space and a subspace on
which the amplitudes uh uh reveal
themselves. Okay. So this really is a
kind of a common uh uh motif in this uh
uh entire story uh uh so far. So today I
I want to tell you uh a little bit about
the the motivation behind the aahedron.
Tomorrow I'll tell you about uh uh uh
surfaceology. We'll start again. We'll
think about the kinematics space again
and uh we'll we'll see uh the story of
uh surfaceology.
Um and uh and for my third lecture I
want to uh talk about um something else
which the uh recent developments with uh
uh over here have made um have made
possible something I'm extremely excited
about um is uh you you know all of these
pictures even these new geometric
pictures for amplitudes they have this
feature I'll I'll stress in a moment
there's something basically recursive
about them. Okay. So, so you build these
geometries. You know, we heard a
definition of positive geometry earlier,
but the definition of positive geometry
has some recursive quality to it. You
know, you go to a boundary, you you see
something that looks like a positive
geometry. Again, um and this this
recursive feature is kind of there in
all of these pictures that have to do
with amplitudes that one way or the
other. Think about amplitudes as very
simple when there's few particles and
you put them together, glue them
together to make more and more
complicated ones. We can think about it
in this super direct way with finding
diagrams. We can think about it in this
much fancier way uh which exposes it's
wonderful exposes all these things
positive geometries blah blah blah. But
still you know if you want to know what
is the million particle amplitude you're
not going to get the million particle
amplitude without first getting the
million minus one particle amplitude
million minus two particle amplitude and
so on. Right? It's so fundamentally as a
feature that you have to build something
complicated out of simple pieces. And
I've long sort of fantasized that uh uh
uh something really new about amplitude
should let you go the other way. Sort of
give you the amplitude for infinitely
many particles first. Kind of a second
theory just a formulation for what the
physics is and limit where the number of
particles is infinity and then give you
a systematic one over n where n is the
number of particles expansion to sort of
correct and bring back to a finite
number of of particles. And uh that's I
think what we're now seeing and I want
to tell you about in the third third
lecture. there's really sort of a
qualitatively different picture for what
the amplitudes are that gives you access
to a regime that we did not know how to
access before in physics where the
number of particles is like literally
infinite. Okay? And then you sort of
back away from that from a systematic
expansion. So that's the rough plan. But
again, I'm I'm in no rush. We don't have
to get through everything. Uh uh so we
can stop uh uh uh for as long as or as
little as uh uh you want on uh any of
these subjects. All right,
let's just stop there. I've barely said
anything, but in the little bit that
I've said, are there any questions?
I'd be surprised if there were.
>> Sorry. Can you say something about
measuring always at like negative and
positive infinity? Like what's the
meaning of that?
>> Yeah. Well, I mean, it's an
idealization. Um uh you know um but uh
let me just say uh practically speaking
when experimentalists collide particles
at the LA experimentalists are about
your size um maybe their brains are a
little smaller but uh I'm kidding.
I'm joking my favorite people in the
world. I love you experimentalists. Um
they're big. They're you know meter
scale creatures. They're scattering
protons that are 10 -4 centimeters big.
Okay. Okay, so the experimentalists are
huge compared to the things that are
being collided and also you know the LX
is 27 km around 27 km is nearly infinity
compared to 10 - 14 cm the size size of
the proton but more conceptually you
know whenever you do any kind of
observation you want to disentangle the
physics of the apparatus from the
physics that you care about. So that's
why you you put them far away, right? So
the apparatus is far away, you know, you
don't put the apparatus right on top
where all the collision is happening
because then the the apparatus is
interfering with what you're trying to
uh trying to measure because it's just a
very important part of the active
observation in quantum mechanics is to
really decouple the system from the uh
uh the apparatus from the system as much
as possible. So the experiments start
and end at infinity. Okay,
>> did that answer your question?
>> Yes.
>> Okay, any other questions? Yes. What is
the number d?
>> Oh, it's a number. It depends on the it
depends on the process depends on n. But
uh so if you specify your scattering
process, this d is going to depend on
that n in some way. Okay. So it it
depends on on on the context. Okay. But
there are some but the but but for any
particular process there is some
particular dimension uh subspace and a
way of choosing that subspace. So that
this is the answer. All right. And is
this subspace the boundary of the
>> No no no no no
>> the intersection with the
>> No no no no no I mean this subspace
intersects with the positive region it
intersects somewhere and this somewhere
as a you know as a region that has it's
an interior and has boundaries of all
co- dimension uh and the intersection of
S with uh this positive region P is a
positive geometry that's uh that's the
idea so so you then want to find a
canonical form for that positive
geometry Okay. Now, the cool thing is,
you see, um, uh, if you're it, if I just
told you loosely, amplitudes are
canonical forms of positive geometries.
It's great. But then you think a little
bit and say, well, what could that mean?
I mean, the amplitudes depend on a bunch
of momenta. But a positive geometry is
like this square, right? Or this
pentagon or this fancy shape with this
particular parameters. What does it what
could it mean that the amplitude which
depends on all possible momenta is the
is the form of like a positive geometry
and this picture solves that. You see it
tells you that the that the amplitude is
a form. THE FORM LIVES EVERYWHERE lives
just defined on the full space. But when
you pull back on a particular subspace
it has a magical property that when you
pull it back to that subspace it becomes
the canonical form of the positive
geometry you see on that subspace. If
you move the sub subspace around well in
detail the the shape of the positive
geometry will change the form will
change but the underlying form that
lives in the whole space is is uniform
is always the same and is literally
interpreted as the amplitude. There's a
little bit of an extra step to go from a
form to a function. Okay, I have not uh
told you that. So that's a little extra
thing how we how we convert these forms
to functions and the nature of this
pullback is going to tell you precisely
how to do that in all cases. Okay, has a
slightly different answer in the amplan
case and in this case but always in the
end of the day the amplitude is really
that object. Okay.
All right.
Okay. Now um maybe before uh
getting into more details I want to say
one more thing about what so um
let me say two more things and then
we'll start into
something more meaningful
maybe As I'm racing, I can say that um
we're going to spend some time kind of
like slightly moving around in what we
mean by this kinematic space. It can be
the space of momentum to begin with.
We'll we'll muck around with it a
little. We'll talk about spinner
holicity variables. We'll talk about
momentum twisters, twisters, momentum
twisters, but they're all just different
ways of labeling the uh end momenta for
the particles. Okay. So um and similarly
that pi.pj
space the pi.pj space naively it's a
space of n squ numbers pi.pj of course
momentum conservation which says that
the sum of the ps adds up to zero is
going to put a few relations on those
guys. So so it's a not quite an n square
dimensional space or an n choose two
dimensional space. It's a little lower
than that. And there's various ways of
coming up with nice bases for that
space. But we really what I want to
emphasize we're really talking about
those two spaces one way or the other up
to a simple basis changes. So it should
really surprise you that there's
anything you can do in these in these
seemingly stupid spaces that is going to
produce all the richness and complexity
of amplitudes. Okay. And uh just to say
now a big word that is uh important here
that that brings almost everything to
life. There are two words that bring
everything to life. The notion of an
ordering that these uh that these n
momenta are not handed in a randomly to
you but are naturally ordered in some
way. P1 followed by p2 followed by p3
and the existence of a cyclic ordering.
Okay, this is related to the fact that
all the physics that we're talking about
here is uh has to do with the scattering
amplitudes for particles with color.
We'll say that a little more precisely
in a second, but I just want want you to
get this in in your mathematical heads
right away that somehow without the
notion of a cyclic ordering, there's
nothing to do with the notion of a
cyclic ordering, poof, all of a sudden a
lot of things become possible. And then
also the word positivity. Okay. And
again as we heard in the in the review
about positivity in positories and
grasmanians uh this is very much
reflects something that if you're just
looking at you know general uh matroid
stratification impossibly complicated
any algebraic variety can be realized uh
in that world if you say the word cyclic
ordering you don't care about the
matroids are about linear dep arbitrar
linear dependence between vectors uh in
arbitrary orderings but you say You only
want to keep track of the linear
dependence between consecutive sets of
vectors. You give a cyclic order and you
say the word consecutive sets of
vectors. Then all of a sudden now
there's a structure. Now there's a very
rigid structure and this posi
stratification which also goes along
with the notion of positivity. So
somehow this very very basic thing which
was seen in the story of going from
random matroids to posits has to do with
ordering and and cyclicity and has to do
with the presence of color. uh when we
talk uh about physics that's kind of
responsible for what can breathe some
life into these seemingly very erid
almost either empty or too complicated
uh
mathematical spaces. Okay, so just uh
keep that in mind. Now something else
that uh I want to say is you know uh
virtual particles in the standard way of
doing field theory has a purpose in
life. Um and of course we said that it's
supposed to make uh space time and
quantum mechanics manifest but actually
does more than that. Uh it it does that
in um uh in a way that's very sharply
reflected in what the actual formulas
look like, what the actual amplitudes uh
look like. So let's say again we have
this sort of simplest process.
Maybe there's a there's a coupling
constant G here. If this vertex G is
nothing complicated, they're just scalar
particles. So the amplitude for this
process following standard final rules
would be g ^2 over p1 + p2 2 minus m^2.
Okay. So that's this momentum here. Uh
this uh intermediate momentum is p1 plus
p2. Okay. Um so
uh so that's that's what this very very
simplest uh amplitude looks like. And um
you might have there might be another
diagram which is this one.
So this would be g ^2 over p2 + p3^ 2
minus m^2. Okay. Now this example is
extremely simple. You can compute the
final rules. No problem. But let's say
you're super lazy. You didn't even do
this. Okay. Uh and someone came to you
and said, "I did the calculation. Here's
the answer. Uh can you check that
they're right or wrong?" Right? There's
a very easy way we can check whether
you're right or wrong. In other words,
the way in which uh locality and
unitarity are reflected uh are they're
reflected in very precise sharp
properties of the amplitude
and uh it's it's in the following very
simple way. Locality
this is true I should say this is true
for these simplest tree amplitudes. Um
I'll say a little bit about what's known
at uh loop level in a bit. Locality is
reflected in the fact that that that the
that you only have simple poles.
So in other words, only things that look
like some 1 over p^2 - m^2. You don't
have things that look like 1 over p^2 -
m^2.
Don't have that. You definitely don't
have things that look like 1 p2 ^2 - r
t^2. You don't have that. Okay. The only
things you have are simple poles and
these P's that show up can at most be
sums of subsets of the momenta of the
external particles. Okay,
so that's a statement of locality.
That's a statement in moment in momentum
space that the particles met at a point
and so the momentum of this thing that
they're making is uh is the sum of the
momenta incoming to them. Okay,
none of these other things are allowed,
right? So, so if someone said I did the
calculation and they produced something
that had this kind of term in it,
they're lying to you, right? Okay. So,
locality is where the poles are. The
poles are simple poles and are located
only in this spot where the PS are sums
of uh subsets of momenta.
Unitarity is the statement
that so this is this is spacetime
locality. This is quantum mechanical
unitarity is a statement that in the
neighborhood of the pole you have to be
able to interpret. You see this is like
a resonance right? So when this is going
to zero literally the amplitude is
blowing up. So it's like the swing
amplitude is blowing up when you go on
resonance. Okay. So the amplitude is
blowing up there's a pole. So as p ^2
goes to m^ 2
the amplitude indeed goes like 1 over p
^2us m^2* something times some residue.
But this residue has to be interpreted
as the product of the in amplitudes
going in and making this intermediate
state. And then the intermediate state
goes out and makes the out guys.
Why? Because you're getting a pole
precisely because the virtual particle
is becoming real in the standard
language. Right? This is now becoming
real. On the pole, this this PART IS
REALLY INTERPRETED AS THAT amplitude
now, right? It's not some unphysical
virtual particle anymore. This is a real
particle and so you have to be able to
interpret the amplitude as this
sequential process where you first made
the intermediate state then it
propagated out a long distance and then
it decayed. Right? It's propagating
along distance in position space is
reflected by the presence of that pole
in momentum space.
>> Okay.
>> So you sense one more time like how if
you make this cut somehow it wants to
take this.
>> Yeah. You see I mean the the the the the
the point is that you see it first of
all in the in the concrete computation
right as P1 plus P2 squ goes to M^2 this
is blowing up what's the residue that's
blowing up it's G * G well G is the
amplitude for just this part and this G
is the amplitude for the other part
right and this happens in total
generality whatever blob is happening
here and whatever's going on there once
that momentum goes on shell as far as
this part of the graph is concerned this
is as if you're calcul calcating the
amplitude for that guy. And this is as
if you're calculating the amplitude for
this guy on the other side. Right? So
that's why it's just obvious in the
that's the point of the standard
formalism to make it obvious that on
these poles the amplitudes factorizes
into the product of a left and a right
piece. Okay.
>> Could you explain again how locality is
related to simple poles? Yeah,
locality is related to uh uh simple
poles because this is really a sort of
translation from what's going on in
momentum space where we're thinking
about these amplitudes to position space
where the notion of locality is sort of
manifest. Right? So in position space um
uh all the kind of all the things that
uh uh either things are totally local in
position space or it can have things
like inverse square law forces say.
Right? Now why why can we have things
like inverse square law forces because
they actually satisfy local equations of
motion things like lelassian sca
potential equals zero right so because
you have local things like that the only
the only way you can get uh any momentum
downstairs is by inverses of things like
leloians which look like uh one over p^
squ okay um so the reason there's no one
over p to the 4th is that we don't have
like uh leloian squared in in our
descript description of the physics and
that has very good reasons that are also
related to a also related in some way to
a unitarity. But essentially if you
imagine any conventional picture of a
lrangeian upstairs um as two derivatives
ordinary equations of motion and so on
classically then when you compute
anything with them quantum mechanically
you'll never get anything other than
poles that are at positions one over p^
squ and the and those one over p^ squ
just come from inverting the uh the uh
the the two time derivatives if you like
in the underlying uh uh lrangeian in
position space. Did I answer your
question? Uh
>> yes thanks. Okay.
Okay. So, all right. So, so now um so so
so this is very beautiful because it
means that that uh uh if we're looking
for some sort of whisbang new question
in kinematics base uh to which the
amplitudes are the answer they have a
job to do. This question has to produce
functions. The functions have to have
poles in special places and only these
places not other places. and they have
to have a reason why on the poles they
factoriize into the product of lower
objects of the same sort. Okay.
So, um now what we've been uh what we've
been
what we've been hearing about earlier
today um in the story of positive
geometries and canonical forms are an
example of what that could look like.
You see, one way of guaranteeing that
you have objects that have poles in the
correct place and THAT FACTORIIZE IS
FINDING DIAGRAMS. That's just that's
where they came from, right? That's uh
that's exactly what that that makes it
as obvious as possible. Okay, but we're
trying to see is there another kind of
object that can give us the same uh the
same kind of structure. Okay.
And so um
you know if we if we think about you
know roughly uh the oops
we have positive geometries
and their canonical forms just uh
don't want to uh I'm not going to repeat
Aaliyah's beautiful lecture but let me
just uh say uh a little about it.
See on this side there are some there
are some real geometries, right? There
are some real geometries
maybe they could even have curvy
boundaries. Okay, but again the the the
the uh the idea is that that they have
boundaries at least loosely. We had a
more precisely more precise definition
before but they're boundaries of all
code dimension.
Okay.
uh the word positive is there because
kind of in the simplest cases like the
inside of a triangle, how do we talk
about the notion of an interior is
intimately related with notions of
positivity, right? If you want to talk
about the interior points of a triangle,
one way to do it is to take a positive
weighted average of the vertices to give
the convex hall of the point. So that's
where the word positive comes from,
right? Another way is is to specify a
bunch of inequalities that you have to
be on the positive sign of all these
lines. Okay, both cases the notion of
interior has to do with notion of
positivity. Right? All right. So on the
one hand we have these uh we have real
geometries uh with with the property of
having boundaries of all code dimension.
On the other hand we have these
canonical forms associated with them uh
which have this feature of putting dlog
singularities. So dx so locally they
look like some dx uh if it's an n
dimensional space locally uh they will
look like this near some near the
boundaries.
and with the with logarithmic
singularities uh
on and only on
uh the boundaries of P.
Okay. And already if we talked about the
simplest cases um um uh I'm just going
to recap some of the things that uh uh
quickly some of the things Aaliyah said.
Um but just just to get an an
appreciation how even very very simple
geometries can only give us rather rich
uh rich functions. Um if we talk about
the sort of we talk about the very
simplest case
let's just do this
which which Lee also talked about. Let's
talk about the sort of very simplest
case of uh an interval right we talked
about an uh an an interval. So let's say
this direction is x. Here's x= a. x= b.
What is the canonical form for this guy?
Well, it has to have logarithmic
singularities at x= a and xals b. So
what can it be? It's a dx over x - a
clearly. And dx over x - b.
But there's something important here. Is
it a plus sign or a minus sign?
It's a minus sign. So these are actually
oriented. It's a minus sign because if
it was a plus sign, this would also have
a residue at infinity. Right? So this
shows very simply already that uh it's
important that you only have residues on
the boundaries and only on the
boundaries, nowhere else. Okay? Um and
that uh and that that dictates the
relative sign. Okay. Let's do the next
example.
The triangle, right? So let's say I I
have a triangle. So this is x and y. So
here's y = 0 x = 0 1 - x - y = 0. Now
what is a canonical form for this guy?
Well, it's a two form. So it's going to
be dx dy. Clearly it should have a
singularity on x= 0, y equals 0 here. So
it's clear that we should have these
factors downstairs.
But now you see what's cool about this
again talked about uh uh uh uh this in
uh even more interesting examples. So
let's just quickly quickly do it again.
So, so this clearly has singularities
you know the correct code dimension one
singularities but you need more the idea
that it has singularities on and only on
means that if you take any residues you
should keep seeing the canonical forms
for the lower dimensional boundaries. So
let's say I take the residue here at x
equals z. So taking the residue at x
equals 0 just in this case just means
erasing dx overx and putting x= z there.
So if I take the the residue of this
form on x= 0, it's going to be dy over y
1 - y. So you see that's very
beautifully here. I'm at x= 0. And this
form is exactly this form for this
interval. Again, it's y 1 - y. Nope,
there's no residue at infinity. Goes
like dy over y^2 infinity. Great. So it
only has residues on and only on the
boundaries of the triangle. Again, you
can check the other ones, but already we
can have some fun with this example.
Even if we do something as dumb as a
square or a
I'll draw it like this. Every attempt of
my life, oh, I I draw them with parallel
sides. I've never not drawn them with
parallel sides. Okay. So, uh All right.
So, so let's say this is a this is a
square. And there are some I'm not going
to write them explicitly, but there's
some lines line one, line two, line
three, line four. Each one of these
things is like an a1x plus b1 y + c one,
right? So this line is where that equals
zero and so on. Okay. So what is the
form for this guy? Well, again it would
be vx dy. Now clearly it has the four
lines downstairs. L1, L2, L3, L4.
But now you see that this cannot be the
answer because this guy would would has
singularities all right when any one of
the L's goes to zero. But let's say I
take the residue where L1 goes to zero.
Then it will also have a singularity
when either L2, L3 or L4 goes to zero.
Okay? And some of them are good and some
of them are bad. So this is L1. And so
you see
there are these two bad points. So this
is where L1 and L4 meet. That's good.
That's that point. When L1 and L uh L1
and L2 meet, good. That's this point.
But we also have where uh we also have
where L1 and L3 meet which is here. This
is L1 intersect L3.
That's not on the square. Okay. So
similarly we have where L2 and L4 meet
which is also not on the square. Right?
And so that cannot be the right form. We
have to have something that puts a
vanishing residue here. But then that
tells us precisely what has to be.
there's this unique line L which is the
line that precisely passes through uh
this point and that point puts a zero
there and so that gives us the uh that
gives us uh the form you see already
something as simple as this has a kind
of rich interesting uh form it's not
just some trivial thing with the product
of all the factors downstairs um uh if
you want to do the pentagon
um then you have this thing right now
you have uh now you have uh this is my
pentagon But I have these sort of five
bad points outside.
And so now now the form
is again we'd have dx dy with the
product of the five lines downstairs.
But now we have to have something that
puts a zero on all of those five points.
And there's a unique conic that passes
through five points. Okay? And that's
the conic that you put upstairs in order
to get the economical form. That always
shows you how interesting this object
is. Right? already for a pentagon knows
about these conics that pass through all
these points and you put almost nothing
in other than that you just have a
pentagon and you start getting some rich
and interesting uh objects out. Okay.
Okay. So um so that's uh that's just
some uh some some feeling um and so one
thing that you you see here is that uh
the boundary structure of positive
geometries is therefore
reflecting the pole structure of the
canonical form. Okay.
So the basic mantra is going to be that
amplitudes
are canonical forms.
Okay.
And so uh so uh poles of the amplitude.
So poles of amplitude
are again of course poles of canonical
forms.
But this is then related to boundaries
of P.
So the amplitude is the canonical form
for some positive geometry P. The poles
of the amplitude are poles of the
canonical form and these are related to
boundaries of P.
And so roughly what we're looking for,
we're looking for some geometries if
we're if we want to find some alternate
origin, some alternate understanding for
where locality and unitarity come from.
Right? Remember, we've now translated
those principles into very sharp
properties of the amplitude. The
amplitude has poles in particular spots.
All those spots it has to factoriize
into lower amplitudes. Right? If we're
now thinking about amplitudes as
canonical forms of geometries, then this
translates into a statement that's
naturally a question that lives within
the world of these geometries. Now,
without making any reference to finding
diagrams and particles and all the rest
of it, they have to have poles in the
right spots means they have to have a
particular kind of facet that we have or
boundaries that we're going to sort of
discover precisely what what that should
mean. Okay? And they should factoriize
on the poles means what? It means that
on those facets the geometries should
look like either precisely or a little
loosely. We'll see the precise meaning
of it products of lower positive
geometries in that same world. Right? So
that's the kind of thing that we are
looking for. We're looking for that kind
of set of mathematical objects uh those
sorts of geometries that have the
property that when you go to their
boundaries they factoriize into products
of other things that look like
themselves. Right? That's the that's the
kind of structure that we are actor.
Okay. So if I yeah anyway I can can say
it just going to write it again
that is not immediately obvious from
refinement diagrams right there
factorization problem. It is. It is.
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That that's that's
that's what I was saying. Uh the the the
location of the poles and factoriization
is as obvious as possible in finding
diagrams when I say that as obvious as
possible. Uh for scalar theories, it's
100% obvious. Okay. U there's really
nothing more to say than what I said.
And it's simply that when you go I mean
in in finding diagrams, it's clear that
the only poles are propagators because
that's what they are. And then it's
clear when you go in the neighborhood of
a pole then you know as far as the left
part of the diagram goes it just thinks
that p^ square is equal to m^2. So that
part of the computation is just what you
compute if you're calculating an
amplitude. Similarly for the right part
it's exactly what what you compute if
you're computing an amplitude. Should
have taken the product of the two
amplitudes. right now. Um it's maybe
slightly less obvious when you have
particles with spin because now when you
when you're exchanging them, you're sort
of contracting their uh they have maybe
some vector indices. So those vector
indices kind of like sniff from one side
to the other. Um but anyway, it's a it's
a two-line argument to to essentially
see that you s still get factoriization.
Although to get factorization, you need
to have all the machinery of gauging
variance. Okay. So, so if you're just
trying to, you've never heard of gauge
and variance, you don't care. You're
trying to build rules for gluing things
together, you're just having fun playing
with diagrams in order to ask to have
factorization, factorization will force
you to build a gauge theory even if you
didn't want to. Okay? So, so that's a
sense in what's a sort of yang mill
structure and so on is completely forced
on you by these requirements of locality
and factoriization. Right? So, that's a
so uh and there's no choices once you
start thinking in this way. It's not
like the world could have been 10,000
other ways and it chose to be this
beautiful way described by Yang Mill
theories. There's simply no other way it
could be. But so that's really uniquely
forced on you by these requirements.
>> Sorry.
>> Yes.
>> Uh when you talk about the unitary
principle and the combination of
amplitude, you basically want to combine
amplitudes in the way that the
probabilities come up to one or what is
it?
>> Yeah. uh uh uh uh the the the statement
of the probabilities sum up to one is
almost toological. Okay, because no
matter what probabilities are, you could
always normalize them by the sum of all
of them. Uh so they add up to one.
What's not to logical is that the
probabilities are associated with matrix
elements of of a unitary operator. Uh
that it's linear. There's a linear
unitary operator that gives you uh uh
the amplitudes that you square to get
the probabilities. Okay. So the fact
that it's a linear unitary operator
translates into these statements. I gave
you the sort of intuition for it which
is that you're making the intermediate
particle. Um but it really kind of
really strictly follows from taking the
statement S dagger S equals 1. Taking
matrix elements of the statement S
stagger S equals 1 between initial and
final states leads you to the same
conclusions.
Maybe I I'll say as I'm uh erasing the
board
um that
um
all of these things uh uh
I've I've been talking about have been
for tree amplitudes.
Now in general there's also loop
diagrams.
Um,
so you know we can have diagrams that
look like
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we have diagrams that look like this and
we can also have diagrams that look like
this. Right? And of course what's
special here is that here because their
their their trees all the momenta are uh
all the momenta are determined by the
external ones. So that momentum is p1
plus p2. But here it's not true. If I
give you 1 2 3 4,
this momentum is not determined. I just
have to give it a name. I could call it
L. And then that one would be L + P2.
And this one would be L + P2 plus P3.
And this would be uh L minus P4, let's
say. Um but uh but the momentum itself
is not determined. And so there are some
rules for this picture. But in the end,
we're supposed to integrate. If we're in
dspace, time dimensions, we're supposed
to integrate DDL in this very simple
case. something like 1 / L^2 L + P1 2 L
+ P1 + P2 2 if the particles are
massless L - P4 squ Okay so we have to
do some integral like that
okay so um so the final function only
depends the final amplitude only depends
on the momenta again everything only
depends on the momenta right
of course infamously these are
complicated functions right if I do this
here I put masses here I'm in four
dimensions everything is uh massless. Um
this is these are all interesting dial
logarithms. So they're these are they
can be very complicated functions.
So the actual amplitudes in the end of
the day depend on the momenta. Um now
you can ask I I told you that if someone
uh told you they calculated the tree
amplitudes uh and they handed them to
you, you could check if they're right or
wrong. You can check if they're right or
wrong by seeing that poles in the
correct spot and they factorized all the
poles. Right now, let's say someone
claimed to do the one loop calculation.
They handed it to you. Now, it has a
bunch of dialogues, logs, more
complicated things. Can we check if
they're right or wrong? Okay. and uh
being consistent with these principles
of uh locality and uh and unitarity um
uh
we don't yet know
in the year 2025
uh what the rules are if you give me the
final function we happen to know what
they are at one loop okay um at two
loops maybe Johannes knows 85% of the
rules okay uh maybe Ruth knows well I
won't disting distinguish between the
two of you an equal large percentage of
the rules but not 100%. Okay. Um that's
the frontier in the year 2025. It's a
really massive embarrassment if you ask
me that uh no no no you know no shade on
you guys. It's it's it's a hard problem
but uh but what is the problem? The
problem is that we do not know that the
uh the unitarity is easy to check.
Basically sag or s equals one is not
hard to check. The hard part is
locality.
Um really it's really causality is the
is the is the real nub of the matter.
You want to see that the function that
you get is somehow which is only
remember an in out measurement. You want
to see that it's compatible with some
kind of picture of local evolution in
the interior. But you want to see what
the fingerprint of that is on the final
answer. And since the 1800s we've known
that uh that uh things that are local in
time and space when you for transform
you go to energies and momenta have nice
analytic properties in those variables.
Okay. So if you've uh taken an
electronamics course you'll prove
somewhere that the index of refraction
in materials is always bigger than one.
And the argument uses something called
the dispersion relation that takes
advantage of some analytic properties by
very simple fact that greens functions
vanish for uh causal greens functions
vanish for t less than zero. They're
only non zero for t bigger than zero. It
implies some analytic properties for
these guys. And uh so we've known for a
long time it's somehow analyticity
properties of these functions um that
are reflecting causality and the
analyticity is very easy to talk about
at tree level because they're simply
rational functions. So all you have to
do is characterize their poles and their
residues and we did that. Okay. But
beginning at loop level there are
complicated functions. They have branch
cuts and it's much more tricky to sort
of control and get an understanding of
what their analytic structure should be
even sort of to predict abonio what to
expect they should be. We happen to know
the answer at one loop in a sense by
exhaustion because we know what every
possible function is that can show up at
one loop. And so that gives us a sort of
big enough basis in which we can check.
If you give me an answer, I can check if
I can expand it in that basis of legal
functions and see if it's right or
wrong. All right, BUT AT TWO LOOPS, WE
DON'T HAVE THAT BASIS of functions.
Never mind at the higher loops. Okay, so
as far as the final answer goes in the
year 2025, we do not know how to check.
If someone hands me a three-loop answer,
is it right or wrong? I don't know. I
can check that, but it shows that it's
wrong, right? We can check some things
that that we know have to be satisfied.
We have lots of checks, but we don't
think we have all of them. So we don't
know the sort of exhaustive uh check. Um
uh maybe uh history buffs in the
audience if there are any physics
history buffs will know there was
something called the Smatrix program in
the 1960s. The Smatrix program in the
1960s was superficially about something
that sounded similar to what I'm talking
about here. They wanted to find some way
to calculate scattering amplitudes
without talking about langians and
finding rules and somehow directly
imposing physical consistency
conditions. But their philosophy was
essentially a 100% backwards from what
we're talking about now because they
somehow believed that they could derive
from the top down what these uh
consistency conditions were, what these
analy what these analyticity properties
were to reflect uh causality and
unitarity and they tried for 10 years
and they failed miserably. They had one
great success where they uh retreated to
things at tree level where we can
understand things just having poles and
that momentary retreat led to the
discovery of string theory. So that was
wonderful. Glad that they made that
momentary retreat to that uh to that uh
uh to that uh special case. But the
general case they had no idea what the
solution was back then. We still don't
know have any idea what the full
solution is now even though we know much
much more than they did then.
What we're trying to do with this
program of positive geometries is
exactly backwards. We don't want to
slavishly, you know, put on our
responsible person hats and derive what
the constraints are from from uh from
evolution and causality. We just want to
guess the answer. We just want to find a
structure that's a whole damn answer and
then read out what those properties are
from from the object rather than uh try
to do this ultra responsible thing of
deriving them from the from the top top
down. Okay. So, it's uh it's not as
systematic. It's much more adventurous,
but it's at least not doomed to fail. Uh
or at least we're not making the same
mistakes as the past. At least we're
trying exactly the opposite thing that
they tried before. We we might fail, but
it'll be for different reasons and
hopefully more interesting. All right.
BOTTOM LINE, WE DON'T KNOW. SO, IF YOU
SO, THE HONEST HONEST KINEMATIC space
functions of momenta already we don't
know how to check at one at two loops.
uh we don't know how to check uh whether
answers are right or wrong. Okay, there
is something we can do though that's a
little bit cheating but we've been doing
this business for a while. Okay. um
which is that we're GOING TO RETREAT NOT
TO THE FULL amplitude but sorry in this
business other people are doing other
things right but in this business we
retreat to just talk about this guy
right so this is something that you can
call the loop in integrant before you do
the loop integrals right
all right now the loop integrant now
depends both on the momentum of the
external particles as well as on a bunch
of loop variables right so that's our
extended kinematic IC space. Now our
extended kinematic space is going to
have momenta and some loop variables in
it. Okay. Now why do we do this? Because
this loop integrant is again a rational
function. Okay. And the pole structure
of this guy is completely determined
uh much like it was at tree level. Okay.
So here's the extended statement. Um
okay. So at tree level
at tree level we know that
if I have an amplitude
I'm going to use this symbol here this
is deliberately an ambiguous symbol it
can look like derivative or boundary or
pole it means all of those things okay
but this is a this is a this is a
cartoon but let's say the singularities
of the amplitude are well there is there
are things like this right they
factoriize
okay so that's the statement at tree
level. Right? Is that clear? Right?
That's what we talked about before. Now,
let's say you also have loop variables
and this is now something at Loops.
Okay.
Well, then this will be at L1 loops here
and L2 loops here. This part will look
exactly the same just that L1 plus L2
will add up to L. Okay? That there's
loops on one side, loops, loops on the
other. That just means in this diagram
some summary of complicated loops and
somewhere there's just one line going
across. We're just cutting that line.
But there's another thing that can
happen like you know in this picture I
could also cut this line right that's a
singularity where that L goes to zero
right now what happens when that guy
goes to zero is if I imagine summing all
the diagrams then it's as if I'm I'm
computing a tree diagram now but with
two extra particles in them. Right?
So that's the other kind of singularity.
So plus something that would be at L
minus one loops in general
but with two extra particles that have
sort of been cut with equal and opposite
momenta. Okay. So sometimes we draw it
like this, sometimes we draw like like
that.
Okay.
So that's the general kind of
singularity. Uh that's a general uh
feature that these rational functions
have to have. Now, now when we retreat
to talking about the loop integrams, we
have well- definfined objects that are
rational functions. And what it means
for them to be legal, what it means for
them uh to be have a local and unitary
interpretation is that uh they should
have poles where they factoriize like
that and they should have poles where
they don't factoriize into two pieces
but with one piece and two extra lines
that are glued to itself. Right. Yes.
>> Um what about shifts in the momentum?
>> Very good. Very good. So I was just
about to come come to this point. So um
one thing that you can ask is whether
this notion of a uh whether this notion
of a uh of a loop integrant is even well
defined. Okay. So we can start with this
guy here and already here just had a
single diagram there's a question of you
know what you mean by L right? But
that's not so much of a problem.
Whatever you mean by L you can shift it
or not. If the the shifted L whenever
the shifted L squar goes to zero or any
one of them goes to zero that's an
invariant statement. However you label
it wherever in your L space or L prime
space wherever it happens there's
somewhere where that thing squared goes
to zero at that point it needs to do
this. Okay. So so diagram by diagram
this is not a problem. A much bigger
problem is if it makes sense to combine
different diagrams with the same label
L. Like let's say you have very
different diagrams. How do you know
whether the L you mean for this diagram
is the L you mean for a different
diagram? How do you know how to line
them all up and put them under a common
integral sign? Right? This is actually a
very interesting uh question. And it
turns out that uh in theories where all
the diagrams are planer,
there is a canonical way of labeling L
so that what you mean by L is the same
in every diagram. Okay. A very simple
exercise. I won't prove it for you here.
Actually, you haven't seen it before,
it's a very useful thing to go try and
show it for yourself. Basically, because
planerity gives you a notion of L is
that loop momentum between particle one
and two. Okay? Because one and two are
always drawn the same order going around
on the outside. And if the diagrams are
planer, then that's a well- definfined
notion of L. Okay? There's more or less
there's much more elegant ways of saying
it, but that most lowbrow way of saying
it actually actually works. Okay? So if
you're only summing planer diagrams,
there's a well- definfined notion of the
loop integrant.
If you do not have planer diagrams,
there is not an obvious notion of the
loop integrant until we begin talking
about serviceology tomorrow or on
Wednesday as things are going. Okay,
when when where a canonical notion
reemerges but with an interesting twist,
okay, but so far this notion of a loop
into grand makes sense in planer
theories. Okay, theories where the
graphs are planer and we'll be talking
about color in a moment. There there's
some physics uh justification for when
when that is the case. Okay, so the
notion of a loop integrant is available
for planer theories. When it's
available, this is the ultimate thing
that we're looking for. Okay, so if you
have any kind of machine that generates
rational functions of momenta and loop
momenta with this magic feature that the
only poles are when this happens and
where that happens and all the poles it
factorizes like this or like that.
Congratulations, you've built a theory
that deserves to be called physics,
right? One way of doing building the
theory is called fireman diagrams,
right? And we're trying to look for
other other ways of building theories
like this. And we're going to be doing
it by finding geometric spaces, positive
geometries that reflect that in their
boundary structure. Okay. So that
formula there really is boundary. The
boundary of these positive geometries
look like products of lower positive
geometries and other positive geometries
with this uh two extra uh two extra
lines cut in this way. Okay,
let me just pause at this point. See if
there's any questions.
Yes,
>> this looks a little like degenerating
rayon surface.
>> Absolutely. So you're that's just
exactly what I was going going to say is
that these equations are seen
everywhere. Okay. So if you're a
physicist, you see this equation
everywhere. Uh this is called the
Hamilton Jacobe equation. Uh if you're a
classical physicist, um this is uh also
the Hamilton Jacobi equation. If you're
solving the Schroinger equation in uh in
quantum mechanics, it's called the
Baselin Vilikovsky whatever they're
called formalism, right? For uh uh uh so
um they're everywhere. Okay. So um um we
see this exactly in the boundary
structure of ribbon surfaces. Okay. So,
uh, exactly. In fact, in fact, in fact,
um, so, uh, uh, I'm so glad you said
this because I wanted to, I was debating
whether going to talk about this now,
but I'll talk about it now. You see, um,
imagine imagine that you're, uh, imagine
that,
but an experimentalist who maybe
measures tree amplitudes somehow has
access to loop integrant. You don't know
about finding diagrams. you don't know
about anything but but but you you're
moving the dials and you discover wow my
rational functions of these poles and
these these places and they factoriize
and they do this and you come to the
conference and you announce this is the
system I'm studying it does this please
tell me theorist in the audience what's
going on right and of course fineman's
in the audience and says what's going on
is finding diagrams that I just named
after me right that uh okay that uh
because that just uh that just makes
this happen right but if you're but if
you're pure delete or Mumford in the
audience you're saying I don't know what
you're talking about Fineman but I've
seen this before too right this is
exactly for example this top line is
what happens in the very very simplest
modulized space in the world of end
points on the boundary of a disk okay so
if we have end points on P1
so let's just look at this top top I
right so if we have uh if we have like
let's say four points on the boundary of
a disc
well those of you who have seen this
know it but those of you who don't are
in for a treat okay so so if you have uh
if you have four points uh on the
boundary of a disc modulo moious
transformations modulo uh uh SL2
transformations. Um if you don't want to
think about Mobius transformations,
literally think about them as vectors,
right? So like vectors, two dimensional
vectors. So this is the non-projective
way of thinking about things. Just think
about the configuration of four vectors.
Okay? But they're ordered in this way.
Say 1 2 3 4. Right? Now you can ask what
does the sort of boundaries of the space
look like? Well, they're ordered in some
way. So clearly you'll say, well,
there's a boundary where like three and
four collide with each other, right? So
here's a boundary where three and four
are nearly on top of each other. Aha,
that's that that's a boundary.
But people's three and four will say,
"NO, NO, WE'RE not colliding. I'm I'm
free to do a linear transformation,
right? I'm free to do a linear
transformation where I put these back
wherever the heck I want." So three and
four are going to go there. But what
happens when I do that? ONE AND TWO WILL
collide with each other, right? So you
can think about it now with one and two
very close to each other. Okay? So the
correct way to think about the boundary
of this space is that the boundary is
not where three or four collide or one
and two collide but the boundary of this
space is this famous bubbling picture
where you think that they're sort of in
one two world there's one and two sort
of far apart but three and four squashed
on top of each other there that x
represents three and four squashed on
top of each other and for the
perspective of three and four the other
way Right.
All right.
Okay. And that's what happens in general
for for for any n you can just uh bubble
the space into two pieces with this kind
of point in the middle that represents
the entire rest of the world squashed on
top of each other. Right? That's
remarkable, right? That's exactly what
this picture is doing. Okay? So if
you're pure Dean in the audience, you
say, "I don't know what you're talking
about, Fineman, but whatever the heck
this experimentalist is seeing must have
something to do with that." Okay? And in
fact there is a picture of the world
where that is the star of the show and
is known as string theory. Right? That's
a picture of the string world sheet. The
entire purpose of string theory is to
give you a dictionary between this
primitive fact about the moduliz space.
You see the modulized space factorizes.
That's the that's that's that's a fact.
There's a dictionary that converts that
fact into a statement of poles of an
amplitude that factoriize. Okay. That
dictionary is known as textbook string
theory. And uh uh some avatar of
Karolina's talk tomorrow may talk about
this or may not. I'm not sure. But
anyway, but it's it'll be related to
some of the things that that that that
she talks about tomorrow uh about the uh
about the associ. Okay. So, but the
point I want to make is if factorization
is the star of the show, we we've had
for 50 years, 60 years almost, sort of
two pictures of the world that take this
fact and build a kind of theory on top
of it. One of them is finding diagrams.
The other one's string theory. They're
different. Okay. But there but there are
two ways of seeing some mathematical
structure that does this. Okay.
>> Which means
>> that's right. And they're closely
related to each other. In the end that's
that's sort of in the end we understand
that these are not as far away from the
finding picture as you might have
originally thought. Okay that uh but
indeed what's going on in the sort of
positive geometry program is the
discovery of many more objects of this
type. So I think that's the novelty. We
have these two for like 50 years and now
we're seeing a bunch more. And the way
they connect is involves a different
dictionary. Right? The way that
perturbative string theory connects well
you have to you know read Green Schwarz
and Whitten or Pochinsky for 200 pages
and then start doing calculations right
here in there's some geometry in the
canonical form and poof woof poof you
sort of very quickly see what the
connection is between the uh between the
geometries and the uh amplitudes yes
>> excuse me talking about string theory if
I add the objective topological string
theory
>> yes I know that the the partition
function of topological string theories
are quite related with differential
equations as integral systems like KDV
or KTV equation.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> And you in your talk I mean uh the
analytic behavior of the the amplitudes
is remembering a lot like
>> absolutely I mean look this is what I
was saying I mean we if if if we wanted
to we could spend like uh we could spend
hours and hours talking about all the
systems that are kind of analogous right
um uh and all the systems where this is
going on right this is going on really
everywhere. Um I think I mean it's again
this is one of those statements is
either deep or content free or or close
close to both. Okay. But I think it's
sort of no exaggeration to say this is
most of physics is this statement
because this is roughly speaking the
statement that the world is complicated
but is made of simple pieces and it's
made of simple pieces. If you just add
this this is classical physics. If you
add this it's quantum mechanics. Right?
That's the that's really the sort of uh
the the the uh uh the sort of sense in
which uh if we have objects that kind of
are built out of simpler objects in some
some canonical way which is reflected in
the fact that more complicated objects
split into lower objects in some uh in
some canonical way as you approach their
boundaries.
This is a kind of a universal thing
that's going on all over the place. The
novelty as I as I just said the the the
novelty here is seeing a different set
of objects that are doing this and some
somehow a much simpler setting a much
more austere setting a much simpler
setting than you would have naively
expected and the sort of dictionary for
converting the setting into physics is
something sort of very very instant
there's not much formalism associated
with just this notion of a simple notion
of a canonical form kind of takes the
geometric spaces that do this and
immediately converts them to functions
that uh that that have the have the have
the corresponding properties.
Yes.
>> Sorry. Does this positive geometry that
is the reverse of the question that
you're asking enforces local uh uh
locality in a space time?
>> Yes, that's that that's what we're going
to see. I haven't told you what I
haven't told you what these objects are,
where they come from, but that will be
the magic when we get there is we're
going to do something. For example, we
talked about the epulted. After some
after some preparatory remarks, we'll
start talking about triangles, polygons,
and we'll just ask how triangles and
polygons can generalize into grassians
uh which will motivate in various ways.
And then the way that they do it will
just tell us where where the faces where
the boundaries of this geometry are and
they'll precisely correspond to local
poles without putting it in by hand. I
mean, they'll just sort of come out of
the space. will come out of this uh of
the existence of an ordering and
positivity right and again you know if
you're if you're familiar with the story
of the positive rasmanian this is less
shocking because the positive rasman is
already extremely shocking to me that
you just take k byn matrices nothing
going on boring k byn matrices you say
the columns are ordered okay fine
columns are ordered very good ordered k
byn matrices with all determinants
positive okay I guess that's the sort of
thing mathematicians like sure let's
look at all ordered minors positive Then
poof all of a sudden this incredible
structure. It's controlled by aine
permutations and playbook graphs and all
this sort of structure comes out of
seemingly almost nothing. You just say k
byn matric ordering positivity poof all
the stuff comes out right well we're
just sort of generalizing that. Okay
it's really sort of generalizing that
but the poof something that comes out
will be locality and unitarity is is
what's going to come out uh of of uh of
that. Okay that's that story of the
empahedron. And then when we start again
with a different kind of kinematic space
that's built out of pairs of particles
rather than single particles, we'll get
the story of curves on surfaces which
will connect into string theory in some
interesting ways. But again from a very
sort of primitive uh starting point that
very elementary and primitive uh uh
starting point but yeah we have not seen
any of the magic yet. I've just been
making claims so far but that's that's
where where we're going. Yes, you had
another question.
>> Yeah, just you have uh I mean you are
mentioning different quantities like
Single pairs infinite. Can you
make a clear connection between them?
>> Sorry, say say again.
>> You have you have mentioned different
quantities single pairs as
>> oh no the only thing I mentioned is that
there's two kinds of kinematic space
we'll be dealing with. One of them are
fundamentally where the kinematics are
labeled by single particles and the
other one where they're labeled by
dotproducts of pairs of of amount of
pairs of particles. Okay. And at some
point you mentioned infinite number of
>> no no sorry the the the the third
lecture which is probably not going to
happen now but anyway we'll see uh the
the the third lecture will be about
something else will be about uh this is
this is a formalism and a way of
thinking about these uh uh uh scattering
amplitudes but in all the cases it's not
just a way it's not just some it's not a
you know it's it's not a cosmetic thing
where you just say it in a pretty way uh
it exposes features of these objects
that we could not see before. That's the
sort of most uh important and and
interesting thing about them. There's
like uh there there's there's hidden
symmetries. Sometimes infinite hidden
symmetries. There's the ridiculous
simplicity. We already talked about the
ridiculous simplicity will will will
become uh will become obvious in in many
cases. And you get access to regimes
which we didn't know how to access
before. And one of those regimes is the
one I mentioned where the number of
particles goes to infinity. Okay. And
that that's associated with a totally
new set of ideas that I want to uh uh
that I'm I'm I'm hoping that we'll get
to maybe in the last hour of these
lectures.
>> All right. Any other uh questions?
Okay. Well, we have 15 minutes to go um
for today and um
let's see let's see what what what we
should do. Um,
you know, um, I don't want to rush
anything. Uh, let me actually stop
again. Um, uh, are there any questions?
>> Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. Yeah. I think I think if
there's questions, I think it's a good
use of of our last 13 minutes to, uh,
have a question.
>> I'm wrong, but there is some
relationship between these kind of the
factorization and topology recursion. If
you do that,
>> very much so. Very very much so. Again,
uh, yes. So uh well we we could spend 13
minutes but if we start doing it we'll
probably spend two hours just listing
all the places this kind of formula
shows up. Topological recursion is very
much uh where such formula shows up. I
mean most of the interesting things are
finding the precise senses in which this
formula is true. Okay. And and the
precise dictionary that converts them to
uh uh to uh physical quantities. Okay.
So that's I think what's what's the the
most interesting thing in the story
we're going to talk about is that there
are simple geometric spaces that have
kind of adonio definitions that don't
know anything about this right just some
word some space something is positive
blah blah blah and then you discover
that it does this okay that uh a little
bit like the end points on the boundary
of a disk this doesn't this doesn't know
manifestly about that just turns out to
have that uh turns out to have that that
property okay and secondly that that the
dictionary that converts to physical
quantities is so simple. It's just this
form. There's a form of logarithmic
singularities on the boundary of the
space that that is the object that sort
of turns it into a physics. That's uh uh
so it's both things that are going to be
that that are going to be uh uh
interesting. Maybe I can mention
something which is uh one of the I was
going to mention this as uh uh uh as as
an open problem thinking about the uh uh
amplahedron but one of the one of the uh
amusing things which has happened is
that for example in fact in all of the
stories both the story of therin as well
as the the story of curves on surfaces
have the sort of funny feature that the
the case of relevance to physics
is not the top of the food chain. Okay.
So what I mean is again this is part of
the the chauvinism of the theoretical
physicist is that if you run into some
mathematical structure uh probably the
version that's that's related to nature
or at least related to n equals four
superang mills or a string theory will
be the boss will be the best one and
then everything else will sort of
descend from that in some way and this
is not what's going on in these stories
at all in a kind of disturbing way.
Okay, so for instance in the story of
the amplahedrin what connects to n=4
super angal scattering amplitudes is m=
4 totally weirdo intermediate case it's
not n equals 1 or even m= 2 it's m= 4
some you know random small even integer
what about all the other m right and you
know all the other m are very
interesting objects and even when you
loosely think about what this means for
them they generalize this in kind of a
radical way. Okay. So they they they
generalize these pictures so that for
example you don't factoriize into two
you can factoriize into three four more
complicated uh pieces. For example even
n equals 6 appears to have the feature
that the factorization is not associated
with factoring into two but associated
instead into taking a random cubic tree.
Take a random cubic graph and that's a
picture of factorization. You take a
random cubic graph and then you sort of
decorate it with blobs in the same way
here that you just take a straight line
and you decorate it with blobs on two
sides. Okay. So if you take higher
multahedra they seem to give you objects
that generalize these notions of uh
factorization. Okay. On the face of it
that means that these are objects
mathematically that are generalizing our
usual notions of spaceime and quantum
mechanics. And what's so fascinating
about that is that theorists have tried
for ages to find any kind of extension
of quantum mechanics. There's nothing.
Okay, you can't mess around with quantum
mechanics in any way that doesn't
completely blow up in your face
instantly. But they've never tried to do
it while at the same time messing with
the notion of space time. Okay? And so
that's what's going on in this story.
Maybe I should have made this point even
earlier on. Um uh let's forget about
this much more exotic comment uh uh that
I'm making now. this formula even the
the top line even at tree level it
should kind of strike you uh because you
know normally we think about uh we can
have theories that have lorren
invariance the theories that have
spacetime symmetries we can have quantum
mechanics without lorren invariance
spacetime and quantum mechanics are not
related to each other we can have in
classical physics that's lorrenvant
without quantum mechanics we can have
non-relativistic quantum mechanical
theories these are unrelated concepts
not only that quantum mechanics and
lorent variance seem to in front of the
scenes fight each other. And so it's
difficult to make things that are
simultaneously relativistic and quantum
mechanical at the same time. That's part
of the great rigidity of quantum field
theory is to make things that are
simultaneously compatible with both
principles. But it's also very
interesting that somehow behind the
scenes they're very cooperative. And
this is one of the ways you see the
cooperation. It's fascinating that that
relativity and quantum mechanics show up
in the same spot in the amplitudes.
They're not like in different places.
They're just about the pole structure.
Where are the poles and what do you do
on the poles? Okay. So, so uh they could
have had they COULD HAVE BEEN UTTERLY
unrelated things, but they're in fact
exactly the same thing, right? They're
really exactly about the uh the the
analytic structure of of the amplitude.
And so sort of whatever the ideas are
that give rise to this picture
in some abio way you can go back and
sort of read them as a way of giving
rise to you know some some notion of of
locality and some notion of uh
unitarity. Okay. When we think about how
string theory does this at the level of
pictures no problem. Uh it doesn't seem
to have anything to do with finding
diagrams. But in the end of the day, the
the dictionary that converts it to
physics involves a conventional picture
of a quantum mechanical theory that
lives on the world sheet. So that's why
it's not such a dramatic notion of some
kind of emergence of quantum mechanics
or space time because they're more or
less there in the picture when we
finally understand where where it comes
from in the textbook way of uh think
about string theory. On the other hand,
you might find other ways of getting
this picture that are much further away
from that and that'll give you some sort
of picture of where these notions could
come from. again further away from that
and what's interesting about these new
ways of doing things is that they
suggest generalizations of this picture.
Okay. So whatever the generalizations of
this picture are uh you're invited if
you're very adventurous to think about
them as some new notion of spacetime
that goes along with this new notion of
of quantum mechanics. Okay, that's uh
and that's something that's that's there
in the amplahedron story because the
physical case is in some rando
intermediate place at m equals 4 and
it's also there in the curves on
surfaces story uh which I'll talk about
later where that entire story is sits
inside a much larger world that's quite
a bit more abstract and which doesn't
have any of the conventional connections
to uh again this kind of picture
generalizes this kind of picture in uh
interesting ways as well. So I think
that's maybe another one of the purely
mathematical novelties. As you've said,
we've seen this kind of thing everywhere
in both physics and mathematics. But now
we're seeing uh cases not only where
these emerge uh in a way that connects
to physics, but which suggest uh
generalizations that are not artificial.
They're sort of there in the same uh
world of uh of objects. So in the case
of amplit studying higher m uh ampl for
example.
>> Sorry.
>> Yes. Uh you said that positive geometry
enforces the locality and your very
principle.
>> Yes.
>> What about the reverse?
>> Well, that's that that's the that's the
uh very large number of uh euros
question. Okay. So uh we don't know um
uh certainly but since we don't know
what we don't have uh uh definitely the
the the suite of theories we understand
so far in this way is minuscule compared
to all the theories that are out there.
Okay, they're getting larger. So there
are more more more realistic theories
are being uh uh described in this
language but we're not we're nowhere
near describing for example all the
particles and forces that we know in the
standard model maybe I don't know 20% of
them can be described in this language
now okay uh so not zero but uh but uh
but definitely not all of them crucially
uh theories without color uh cannot yet
be described in this language okay so
and that's a real Biggie I mean that's
that's photons don't have color gravity
don't have doesn't have color uh so we
don't know how to describe uh uh
theories like that in this language yet
there are some hints in the surfaceology
picture that we might be able to do it
but um but uh uh nothing concrete yet
but I think um uh I think it's more more
the other way there is no you know the
way I I I see it um uh this kind of
crazy hidden simplicity, symmetries,
all this miraculous properties of
amplitudes did not have to exist. That's
one thing that did not have to exist.
They exist. Also, these objects did not
have to exist. I mean, you know that
they're also not sort of just sitting
around on the surface. You're sort of
you have to look for them. You have to
believe they exist and look for them and
but you look for them. You dig for five
years and you find them, right? So, I
don't think they have to exist. the fact
that they exist and and they're somehow
related to the to the remarkable
properties of the of the functions uh I
think means something but does it mean
that we're thinking about in the correct
way uh is it just a tiny part of
something uh much different uh who knows
absolutely possible yeah absolutely
possible I just think of it as an
example of kind of an existent pro an
existence proof that these ideas could
come from somewhere else that that they
don't have to essentially be there uh
behind the scenes um uh as we've been
seeing so far.
>> Thank you.
>> Yes.
>> In string theory actually have some
dimension 10 or 26. Yes. Here it seems
that space time dimension four naturally
comes out because of the nature of this
singularities. There are the
singularities green function of solution
in dimension four.
>> Yes. So uh so um uh the nature of the
singularities is actually dimension
agnostic because the because the inverse
of the leloity in any number of
dimensions is one over p². Okay. So so
that's not special to four dimensions.
There is something special about four
dimensions um uh related to the story of
the epulted. Um uh what's special about
four dimensions and this is what I I'll
I'll start with tomorrow. Um uh what's
special about four dimensions is that
the space-time symmetries in four
dimensions are well SO3 comma 1. We have
Lorenten variance is SO3 comma 1.
Famously SO3 comma 1 is also SU2 cross
SU2 or really SL2 cross SL2 or SL2C. If
you complexify everything is SL2 cross
SL2. So this is something that people
have known since 1930 Vanderordon
whoever people have known this for ages
and ages right the space-time symmetries
in four dimensions are SL2 cross SL2. If
you have massless particles, you have
conformal invariance. Conformal
invariance is an even bigger symmetry.
It's not so visible in the lrangeian,
but it's an even bigger symmetry that
again in four dimensions is SL4.
So there's something peculiar that in
four dimensions the fundamental
symmetries of spaceime look like these
SLS SLs. They look like linear
transformations. What the hell, right?
They don't look like linear
transformations in general dimensions.
They only look like linear
transformations in four dimensions.
That's why in four dimensions Gusmanians
show up all over the place because
everything is about these linear vector
spaces the symmetries are these GL's gls
GL4 if you have conformal symmetry right
the grassmanians are just sort of hiding
behind the scenes everywhere and that's
why the story of the positive grossman
etc etc are crucially dependent on that
uh that connection okay when I say that
the uh empahedron can be generalized to
higher m it would
a system that has an SLM symmetry. See,
in four dimensions, it's SL4 and SL4 is
the conformal group in four dimensions.
In higher dimensions, the conformal
group is SL nothing. So, when we go to
like SL6, we're not doing conventional
field theory anymore. We're doing
something different. Okay? And as we're
discovering that something different is
this crazy thing that generalizes
factorization and uh uh the location
factoriization unitary in some way. So,
it's pro presumably not a normal theory.
Definitely not a normal theory. It's
going to have its own weird notion of
spacetime. This weird notion of
spacetime with distance doesn't depend
on pairs of points but on triples of
points and more more more more
complicated things uh like that for
example. Um uh so there is a
generalization to higher dimensions but
it's not our higher dimensions. It's not
sort of bigger punk array symmetries.
It's something uh totally different. The
the the story of curves on surfaces is
totally dimension agnostic. Okay. And so
it works in any number of dimensions.
and the fact that that we run into 10
and 26 dimensions even the the the 10 of
the 26 are can be relaxed in uh in
interesting ways because we're not
literally doing uh string theory in that
picture as as we'll we'll discuss when
we uh when when when we get there but
yeah but the but but the specific I mean
you could imagine that there is a that
just like the amphithe in four
dimensions is about the space of the
individual momenta but somehow to see
all the structure we had to we we we we
had to go to the space on which the
symmetries act linearly, right? Could
there be some picture in 6 8 10
dimensions normal dimensions which
treats the momenta one at a time and
discovers some sort of positive geometry
in that space? Perhaps there is. I would
be fascinated to find it. I I I don't
know what it is yet. Um but yeah, so so
the the the story of the is about four
dimensions. The story about curves on
surfaces that we'll talk about later
will be about any number of dimensions.
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The speaker discusses a surprising and deep connection between fundamental physics and mathematics that has emerged over the past 10-15 years. This connection is different from historical interactions where math led physics by centuries or vice versa. Instead, physicists and mathematicians are encountering similar structures simultaneously. The lectures will explore this connection, focusing on scattering amplitudes in elementary particle physics. The standard approach using Feynman diagrams, while correct, is computationally complex and can lead to qualitatively incorrect conclusions. The speaker aims to explore alternative pictures that might reveal deeper insights, potentially challenging notions of spacetime and quantum mechanics. A key focus is on the remarkable simplicity of certain amplitude calculations, like the Park-Taylor formula, which suggests a more fundamental underlying structure. The discussion touches upon concepts like locality, unitarity, positive geometries, and kinematic spaces, suggesting that amplitudes can be viewed as canonical forms of these geometries. The aim is to find new questions in kinematic space whose answers are the amplitudes, moving away from spacetime descriptions and virtual particles. The challenges and frontiers in calculating and verifying amplitudes, especially at loop level, are highlighted, along with the ongoing search for new mathematical and physical ideas to reformulate our understanding of the universe.
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