Even Linus?
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The internet, it's a strange place,
okay? It's the only place I know of
where a small event can happen and every
last person's like, "It's so over or
we're so back." And that just happened
again. Okay, we're talking about a
massive one. I saw videos being made,
tweets being hacked, people just telling
me all of soft for dev is somehow over
again.
>> We might be 6 to 12 months away from
when the model is doing most, maybe all
of what do end to end.
Hey, do you see this? This is me in the
arch sweater. Yes, this delicious
Christmas sweater that also doubles as a
nice little winter sweater to keep you
warm. This is gone. In 48 hours, we're
closing it down, never to be seen again.
So, if you want it, it will be linked in
the description. It'll be in the pinned
comment. And guess what? 50% of all
sales, they go to open source. They go
specifically to the Arch Linux
Foundation. So, get it now while
supplies last.
No, not that. Not anthropic. Once again
telling you the the 48 months into the 6
months until it's all over. Bro, that's
not the one I'm talking about. The one
I'm talking about it's by the person you
least suspect. Okay. Lionus. No, not the
tech tips. Torva. Yes. Somehow Torvalda
has done something in which has caused
the entire software engineering world to
lose its damn mind. And it is completely
silly. And the best part is it really
just misses the entire point. Okay, so
this this right here caused everybody to
lose their mind. Now audio noise,
Torvalds, what is he doing here? So it
turns out once a year during Christmas,
apparently Torvalds just go side
questing on some sort of magical
software or hardware project. The year
before he did a bunch of like guitar
pedal stuff and soldering. This year he
wanted to write some software for it.
Some submillisecond audio processing. Of
course did it in nothing but the lovely
C right here. Like just look at that.
written with micro emacs looking just so
good. Look at that for loop. Now that my
friends, that's a for loop. All right,
so what is making people lose their
mind? I mean, Torvald's writing sea. I
mean, come on. The water is wet, sky is
blue. Nothing controversial is happening
here. Well, actually, if you go all the
way down to the very last paragraph, it
says this. Also, note that Python
visualizer tool has basically written by
vibe coding. I know more about analog
filters, and that's not saying much than
I do about Python. I started out as my
typical Google and do monkey see monkey
do kind of programming, but then I cut
out the middleman, me, and just used
Google anti-gravity to do the audio
sample visualizer. Yes, the vibes were
had by Torvalds himself, despite the
fact that he spent countless hours
learning about audio processing,
creating a bunch of C, getting this to
run on hardware that he probably
soldered last Christmas, doing a huge
amount of exploration and
self-fulfilling, self kind of actualized
programming that really makes him a
deeper expert and be able to enjoy his
craft long term. No, no, no, no, not
that part. Not that part. That would be
silly to focus on. Instead, it's the
Python script. And obviously by him vibe
coding it, it's so over, boys. Pack it
up. It is actually 6 months until
everything ends. And that's just that.
Now, naturally, I think this is just
completely silly. Okay, this is just
like the silliest thing I've ever seen.
I just I am shocked. I am Okay, I
shouldn't be shocked. I should not be
shocked. I should not be shocked at all.
Okay, because we are in unprecedented
hype cycles right now. In fact, the hype
cycles are so unprecedented that they
have now exceeded the cryptocurrency NFT
hype cycles because look at this right
here. One of the creators of the AI
tools
rugged with cryptocurrency. I mean,
[laughter] it's the IT'S THE GREATEST
IT'S ACTUALLY THE GREATEST timeline
we've ever lived on right here. I can't
believe it. Yes, I will make a video
about this because it turns out a lot of
these people are now apparently making
some sort of cryptocurrency and then
also rugging people. We'll get back.
Okay, that's that's a different video,
different time. Today though, we're
talking vibe coding. Now, I'm no
stranger to vibe coding. Okay, do you
see the little black box right up there?
If I talk in here, hey, it's going to
show up right there. Okay, I've made my
own nice little chat program. It can
combine multiple chats. I can do some
cool stuff over it. But I'm no stranger,
okay, to Vibe Coding. I know a thing or
two about it, and I can see a lot of
both the benefits of it and of course
the the jagged edges that does exist.
like I personally would never want to
stake like my production app for other
people to use on just like a purely
vibecoded experience. And so this just
absolute insanity levels that are going
on right now is just so ridiculous. And
honestly, I think it's a little absurd
that people are using like an iconic
programmer as a cudgel really just to
sell their product. I am genuinely not
really that happy about that experience.
I think it is a little bit silly. Um, I
think at the end of the day, who cares
if he used it to make the Python
portion? It wasn't even a part of it. It
was a side quest. It was like a side
quest side quest. Okay, the actual
project was already a side quest. And
that was for his learning. And it just
goes to show like if anything, this
takeaway from this experience should be,
oh my gosh, you know what's really
important? Skills. You're watching
Lionus in real time develop skills
around things he's interested in and
then vibing out the things he's not
interested in and it just needed
something. So for me, this is actually
like it's it's hilarious because it's
it's like intentionally misunderstanding
what's going on to sell something or to
make a point or to score updes on
Twitter or some crap. So at the end of
the day, I think that Lionus himself
actually says it best. I think actually
on the programming side, we're in a
fairly good spot. I really think that AI
will be a tool and it will make people
more productive. I think that VIP coding
is great for getting into programming. I
think it's going to be a horrible thing
to maintain. And that's just straight
from Lionus's mouth. And to really back
that up, he actually has put this in the
Linux kernel mailing list. Okay, he sent
this out to all the kernel developers
about AI. They're arguing whether or not
they should be putting some stuff into
the documentation about whether or not
they accept AI contributions. And he
says this, there is zero point in
talking about AI slop. It's just plain
stupid. Why? Because the AI slop people
aren't going to document their patches
as such. That's such an obvious truism
that I don't understand why anybody even
brings up AI slop. So stop the idiocy.
The documentation is for good actors and
pretending anything else is pointless
posture. As I've said in private
elsewhere, I do not want any kernel
development documentation to be some AI
statement. We have enough people on both
sides of the sky is falling and it's
going to revolutionize software
engineering. I don't want some kind of
kernel development docs taking either
stance. It's why I strongly want this to
be that just a tool statement in the
kernel mailing list and in the YouTube
videos. It's just a tool. And maybe
hopefully maybe I know this is like my
19th video on this stuff. Just maybe,
just maybe I'm helping pour just enough
cold water on it that you understand a
it's it's going to be important some
understand it. Okay? Go out there,
explore it, see what it can do, see what
it can't do. Personally, I love the fact
that I will build tools that I would
just never build ever. Like I would have
never built this overlay thing for my
stream because I just don't want to take
the time to do it. It's like that's a
non-interesting problem for me. Oh, but
if I can just spend, you know, 20 $30
and be able to have that as a piece of
software that I just run. Oh, super cool
internal tool. I'm very happy. So, yes.
Do I think you should go explore things?
Hopefully by now from the beta access to
Google Copilot all the way up to now and
me pretty much trying every single tool.
Hopefully, I showed you the most
important thing of all of software
engineering is learning and becoming
better at your craft. And understanding
how tools work and their availability is
in fact one of the best ways at becoming
a better software engineer. All right,
end of rant. End of the rant. So, don't
worry. I think we still got a lot of
time before coating is completely gone
and out of these little thingies right
here. The name is you got 48 hours left
to get this arch sweater or else it's
going to be completely gone. Gone
forever again.
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The video discusses the recent internet hype surrounding Linus Torvalds using AI, or 'vibe coding,' for a Python visualizer in a side project. While some use this to claim software engineering is dying, the creator emphasizes that AI is merely a tool for productivity. Linus himself views AI as useful for entry-level tasks but problematic for maintenance, and he firmly rejects incorporating AI policies into the Linux kernel documentation, preferring to treat it simply as a tool.
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