Are You a "Deep Thinker" Or Just Narcissistic?
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And so are people with ADHD deeper? I
think [music]
yes, I'm deeper and they're shallow. So
there's a disconnect. Part of that
disconnection is literally sensory
information. So estrogen literally gives
us emotional depth. The higher our
estrogen levels are, the more capacity
for emotion we have. It sensitizes our
emotional circuitry. Any other ADHD
women feel too deep for this shallow
world. I'm internal ADHD type. Intense,
observant, emotionally deep. Not the
chaotic stereotype, but the
overthinking, hyperaware version.
Lately, I've realized the hardest part
isn't ADHD itself. It's living in a
world where so many people feel shallow,
inconsistent, or emotionally
unavailable. I crave depth and real
connection, but most people seem to
function only on the surface. Sometimes
I feel completely out of place. Does
anyone else experience this? Do you feel
like your ADHD makes you deeper than the
world around you? Look at all these
people, glassy eyed auto automatons,
going about their daily lives, never
stopping to look around and think, I'm
the only conscious human in a world of
sheep. So, one of the things that I
think is really cool about everyone
having ADHD now is that we're
discovering all of these weird nuanced
manifestations of ADHD and feeling a
certain amount of depth and
disconnection is actually like one of
these features. And I and I know that
like there's a lot of stuff on social
media about how, you know, ADHD means
this and if you have this basically
normal human experience, it means you
have ADHD. And the reason that I show
the XKCD is because, you know, this is a
comic that's like, oh my god, I'm deep
and the rest of the sheep are shallow.
And since I have ADHD, like that must be
that it is like narcissistic ADHD
explains everything in my life. Is this
narcissism and just thinking you're
deeper than the rest of the world or is
it ADHD? And this is really important
because if I jump to the conclusion that
oh my god this person is just like ADHD
now causes this now causes this then I'm
doing a huge disservice to them because
they are deeper. They're having trouble
forming connections and if it is a
feature of their ADHD I need to help
them navigate that. Okay. So here's what
I got. First thing does ADHD make you
deeper? And I think it's interesting
because the people who you know complain
about this more or concerned about it
more are frequently women. So what's
going on there? It's not like men can't
do it, but let's let's look at the
science of ADHD and see if this is
something. So, let's look at a few
neurodedevelopmental features of ADHD.
One is we're seeing this as ADHD in
women. So, what are a couple of features
about this? Number one, ADHD in women is
hormonally dependent. One of the reasons
that ADHD is underdiagnosed in women, in
girls, couple of reasons. The first is
that the number one reason why ADHD is
diagnosed as hyperactivity. When someone
is disruptive, they get diagnosed with
ADHD. Women are more likely to have the
inattentive type, not the hyperactive
type, which means that they just don't
pay attention. Second thing is that
there are a lot of female stereotypes
that we will attribute to people with
ADHD, and then we don't call it ADHD.
She's spacey. She's an airhead. She's a
blonde. Oh my god, she's a blonde. She
just spaces out all the time. She's not
like a deep thinker, and she's not like
a STEM major. She's just like kind of
like artsy and like looks out the window
and like that's just how she is. She's
an airhead. Oh my god. Turns out could
have ADHD. So second reason, then what
happens is we notice that there's a
spike in diagnosis once people hit
puberty. And so estrogen and
progesterone will affect ADHD symptoms.
And I say affect because that's what
they do. It's not like they necessarily
make them worse. So one really
interesting thing is I started realizing
that when I have female patients with
ADHD, I often times need to adjust the
level of medication depending on where
they are in their menstrual cycle.
There's a ton of evidence behind this.
Females often receive a diagnosis of
ADHD significantly later than do males.
And there are hormonal factors which
play an important role in the
understanding of ADHD in females. So if
we dig into this paper more, we will
find hormonal and physical maturation
differences during puberty may offer a
better understanding of the differences
in ADHD prevalence rates in males and
females. Okay. Think, Rosie, Grace, and
Quinn found a significant increase in
the dopamine receptors in the stratum in
response to estrogen stimulation, which
increases during puberty in girls. Boys
show an overproduction of dopamine
receptors before and during puberty,
which may contribute to hyperactivity
symptoms. There is a 55% reduction in
receptor density in adulthood in boys by
adulthood. Whereas dopamine girls
demonstrate a later increase in dopamine
receptors related to an increase in ex
estrogen during puberty. Okay, so this
is fascinating. Incredibly fascinating.
So, boys start out super high dopamine
sensitivity. Ah, we love this stuff. And
then as our frontal loes develop, we
start to tone down a little bit, right?
Like we're crazy kids. And then we're
like kind of moody teenagers. And then
we become mature men. No man, men don't
play games. Men do manly things. But
girls have an increase in dopamine
sensitivity when they go through
puberty. And dopamine is hugely
implicated in ADHD. Okay. So this is
governed by the D2 receptor sensitivity.
Okay. But what about the sense of depth
and the inability to connect because
people are shallow. So there are two
other mechanisms which are important
here. One is that empathy is often
impaired in ADHD. And now let's
understand why. So what is empathy?
Empathy is being able to feel what
someone else feels. So if we look at how
empathy works, one of the most important
things for empathy is sensory input.
This make sense? If I can't see or hear
or smell or feel anything from another
human being, it's hard to have empathy.
Empathy is critical for the sense of
connection. So these people with AD ADHD
are claiming they're like, I don't feel
connected to other people. I'm deeper
and they're shallow. So there's a
disconnect. Part of that disconnection
is literally sensory information. So
what I tend to find and if you guys have
friends with ADHD, what you'll notice is
like they're kind of operating on their
in their own world. Their internal
environment is very engaging. They get
distracted easily. They start thinking
about things. Now my attention is over
there. So it's hard to form empathic
connections with people from as simple
as reason is like we don't see what the
other person we don't pick up their
facial signals. We're not like really
paying attention. Our our brain is not
filtering out the correct information.
and it is overwhelming us with other
information. It's it's focused on this.
So, there's absolutely like an
inattention sensory element that impairs
people's empathy. Once we have impaired
empathy, it's hard to form connection.
So, I think this tracks with ADHD. Hey
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thing, and this relates to estrogen, is
emotional reactivity. So what does this
mean? So we know that there are subtypes
of ADHD which involve difficulty with
emotional reactivity. Right? So if we
look at this approximately 25% of
patients in each population had comorbid
ADHD and anxiety. The coorbidity between
ADHD and anxiety deserves careful
scrutiny its own right. Oh synaptic
gating. This is a cool paper. So this is
basically talking about you know so ADHD
is a neurodedevelopmental disorder which
means that it like alters the way that
our brain is formed. It shapes our
brain. And synaptic gating is this way
of activation of neurons. And when we
have problems with our synaptic gating,
it results in anxiety because we're
overactivating certain neurons. We're
underactivating other neurons, right?
The anti-anxiety neurons are
underactive. The pro-anxiety neurons are
overactive. So we see a lot of ADHD and
anxiety. So here's a key thing to
understand. When you are deep, what does
it mean when someone is deep? It means
that their the volume of their emotional
experience is greater. Right? So being a
deep person is not the same as being a
deep thinker. Often times the two can be
connected because deep thinkers often
times have like this like existential
depth. The reason I think deeply is
because I feel deeply and I try to think
deeply. I use thinking deeply to try to
help me understand and navigate feeling
deeply. And so are people with ADHD
deeper? I think there's a strong
argument to be made for yes. And let's
understand the components. Number one,
in ADHD, our emotional circuitry
activates more quickly. It activates
more intensely and it lasts longer,
right? We just saw the coorbidity of
ADHD and anxiety was 25%. That's crazy.
We saw some stuff about synaptic gating
and how the way that our neurons are
wired will predispose us to more
feeling. Core mobidity rates for
depression are also higher. Now let's
talk about the women component. A couple
of things. Women have more internalizing
symptoms. What does that mean? That
means I spend time inside and then my
access to the depth. It's not just the
quantity of emotion, right? There's how
far down under the mountain can we go
and then there is how much time do I
spend above the ground and how much do I
time do I spend below the ground. So as
we have internalizing symptoms that are
prone to things like depression and we
have a greater emotional reactivity,
we're spending time underground. We're
spending time with that depth. Whereas
people who are neurotypical may be
spending time above ground even if they
have an equal amount of depth. But
chances are they don't feel emotions as
quickly and as intensely. Now I think
the total amount of emotion that a
neurotypical person and a person with
ADHD can feel is probably about the
same. I haven't seen any data that
suggests, except for one thing. We'll
get to women in a second, that it's not
like I hurt less if I'm neurotypical. I
can hurt just as much as someone with
ADHD. The difference is the frequency of
my hurt is less. The average intensity
of my hurt is less, the duration of my
hurt is less, but the capacity for my
hurt, I believe, is the same. So, I do
think it's like an understandable
experience for there to be a lack of
connection. So even if someone else is
capable of that depth, my ability to
read that that depth is impaired, but
it's also very reasonable to consider
that maybe the average neurotypical
person doesn't spend as much time
underground as I do and that the average
trip underground I go way deeper than
they go. It's actually a completely like
understandable stance. Last thing comes
down to estrogen itself. So why are we
seeing this complaint in women more so
than men? Doesn't mean that men don't do
it. It just seems like women are
complaining about it more, experiencing
it more. So estrogen literally gives us
emotional depth. The higher our estrogen
levels are, the more capacity for
emotion we have. It sensitizes our
emotional circuitry. And this like
happens in dads. So when I became a dad,
like I started crying in Disney movies
and I was like, "What the hell is going
on?" I was so confused. I was like
sitting there with my 2 and 1/
halfyear-old and we're like, "Let's
watch The Lion King." And it's like, "Oh
my god."
And I was like, "What is happening?" I
felt this tightness in my throat. I felt
like a [ __ ] [ __ ] I was like, "What
is wrong with me?" I just had access to
this emotional depth that I didn't have.
And it's because I my estrogen
increased. Oh my god. I became
womanized. I became feminized. Dr. K
became feminized. No, it's not that. My
testosterone levels are quite healthy.
My testosterone levels are quite high.
But you also get access to estrogen. And
this is important. The reason that you
need this is because when you spend time
with babies, babies can't talk. And so,
you need to have estrogen to be able to
have a greater capacity and sensitivity
for feeling. I need the outside world,
my I need to turn up the volume way up
because this little human doesn't know
how to communicate. And my stem mind, my
like, hey, if you feel something, let's
analyze. Look at this, Dr. K. Dr. K does
this. Oh, you are feeling depth. Let's
look at the neuroscience of depth and
let's explain. Let's understand
mechanistically. What is the
neuroscience of depth and feeling? What
is this? Let's break it apart. Let's
look at this synaptic gating. Let's go,
[ __ ] Synaptic gating theory. This is
how I understand the world. I'm a man.
Look at this. Look at this synaptic
gate. Beautiful. But unfortunately, when
my daughter is two, synaptic gating
theory doesn't really do the job. So,
you need access to estrogen. And for me,
it was like amazing because now I like
art. It's cool. I feel so much more.
It's great. So, I think this is where
like women really do feel like, you
know, I think it makes sense that you
have more estrogen. Probably the amount
of depth that you feel, I would bet
money, I would guess, varies with your
menstrual cycle. That you feel
disconnected from other people. Maybe
because you have difficulty with
empathy, you have difficulty connecting
with them, right? But that doesn't mean
that they're shallow. But it kind of
does because they may not feel the
frequency and intensity of emotion.
doesn't mean that they're shallow as
people. It just means they spend less
time at deeper waters. Doesn't mean that
they don't exist. So, in terms of how to
do this, how to deal with this, what do
you do if you feel this depth? I'd say
number one, be patient, right? You will
get there faster than other people get
there, which is so hard for people with
ADHD. Just be neurotypical. Number two
is I would say really pay attention to
the other person. Really try to read
what they're sending. And the last thing
that we got to say is that I think more
people are shallow across the globe. And
what does that mean when more people are
shallow? So I think the other reason
people are observing this is because
everyone is more shallow. This is like I
know this is supposed to be a joke but
there is some truth to this, right? And
the reason for that is if we look at the
influence of technology, technology
brings us outside of ourselves. Even
when you're reading a book, your
imagination has to be active in order to
enjoy the book. Most of the time the way
that human beings are supposed to be is
we're somewhat internal. We live
internally. So even when I read a book
like I'm in here, the book is just
triggering this creation internally. But
now what's happening is our attention is
moving to the outside. And as we move to
the outside, we're spreading out along
the surface. So we have no longer have
access to the mind shaft and we don't go
deep. Even when we trigger emotions,
they're so transient. We don't hang out
down there. Oh my god, look at these.
This little cat lost a leg. Oh my god,
it's so cute. Oh my god, it's so sad.
[laughter]
Did you see? Oh my god, this cat is
surfing. That's hilarious. So, we're
activating this stuff, but we're not
living down there. So, I do think that
it's very possible that, especially if
you're a woman, maybe a dude, and if
you're a dude in the audience, feel free
to chime in, that you do feel things
more deeply, that you are a little bit
deeper, that you spend more time down
there. But I don't think it's as brutal
as like, oh my god, I'm alone and I have
no one to connect to. I think you can do
that. You can form those connections.
need to be a little bit more socially
attuned, which is hard, you know, and I
think people can get there. You just got
to give them a little bit of time. Hey
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The video explores why individuals with ADHD, particularly women, often feel a unique emotional depth and a sense of disconnection from a perceived "shallow" world. It attributes this to neurodevelopmental features of ADHD, including impaired empathy due to sensory inattention and heightened emotional reactivity, where emotions activate more quickly, intensely, and for longer durations. Hormonal factors, specifically estrogen, are highlighted as a significant contributor to emotional depth in women with ADHD, influencing symptom manifestation and later diagnoses. The speaker also suggests that while neurotypical individuals may have similar capacity for emotional depth, they might spend less time engaging with it. Furthermore, modern technology is posited as a factor contributing to a general societal "shallowness" by externalizing attention and providing only transient emotional engagement.
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