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And so are people with ADHD deeper? I

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think [music]

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yes, I'm deeper and they're shallow. So

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there's a disconnect. Part of that

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disconnection is literally sensory

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information. So estrogen literally gives

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us emotional depth. The higher our

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estrogen levels are, the more capacity

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for emotion we have. It sensitizes our

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emotional circuitry. Any other ADHD

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women feel too deep for this shallow

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world. I'm internal ADHD type. Intense,

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observant, emotionally deep. Not the

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chaotic stereotype, but the

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overthinking, hyperaware version.

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Lately, I've realized the hardest part

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isn't ADHD itself. It's living in a

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world where so many people feel shallow,

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inconsistent, or emotionally

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unavailable. I crave depth and real

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connection, but most people seem to

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function only on the surface. Sometimes

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I feel completely out of place. Does

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anyone else experience this? Do you feel

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like your ADHD makes you deeper than the

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world around you? Look at all these

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people, glassy eyed auto automatons,

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going about their daily lives, never

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stopping to look around and think, I'm

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the only conscious human in a world of

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sheep. So, one of the things that I

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think is really cool about everyone

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having ADHD now is that we're

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discovering all of these weird nuanced

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manifestations of ADHD and feeling a

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certain amount of depth and

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disconnection is actually like one of

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these features. And I and I know that

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like there's a lot of stuff on social

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media about how, you know, ADHD means

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this and if you have this basically

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normal human experience, it means you

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have ADHD. And the reason that I show

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the XKCD is because, you know, this is a

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comic that's like, oh my god, I'm deep

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and the rest of the sheep are shallow.

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And since I have ADHD, like that must be

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that it is like narcissistic ADHD

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explains everything in my life. Is this

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narcissism and just thinking you're

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deeper than the rest of the world or is

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it ADHD? And this is really important

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because if I jump to the conclusion that

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oh my god this person is just like ADHD

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now causes this now causes this then I'm

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doing a huge disservice to them because

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they are deeper. They're having trouble

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forming connections and if it is a

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feature of their ADHD I need to help

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them navigate that. Okay. So here's what

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I got. First thing does ADHD make you

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deeper? And I think it's interesting

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because the people who you know complain

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about this more or concerned about it

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more are frequently women. So what's

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going on there? It's not like men can't

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do it, but let's let's look at the

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science of ADHD and see if this is

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something. So, let's look at a few

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neurodedevelopmental features of ADHD.

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One is we're seeing this as ADHD in

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women. So, what are a couple of features

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about this? Number one, ADHD in women is

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hormonally dependent. One of the reasons

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that ADHD is underdiagnosed in women, in

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girls, couple of reasons. The first is

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that the number one reason why ADHD is

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diagnosed as hyperactivity. When someone

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is disruptive, they get diagnosed with

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ADHD. Women are more likely to have the

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inattentive type, not the hyperactive

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type, which means that they just don't

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pay attention. Second thing is that

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there are a lot of female stereotypes

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that we will attribute to people with

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ADHD, and then we don't call it ADHD.

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She's spacey. She's an airhead. She's a

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blonde. Oh my god, she's a blonde. She

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just spaces out all the time. She's not

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like a deep thinker, and she's not like

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a STEM major. She's just like kind of

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like artsy and like looks out the window

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and like that's just how she is. She's

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an airhead. Oh my god. Turns out could

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have ADHD. So second reason, then what

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happens is we notice that there's a

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spike in diagnosis once people hit

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puberty. And so estrogen and

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progesterone will affect ADHD symptoms.

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And I say affect because that's what

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they do. It's not like they necessarily

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make them worse. So one really

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interesting thing is I started realizing

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that when I have female patients with

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ADHD, I often times need to adjust the

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level of medication depending on where

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they are in their menstrual cycle.

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There's a ton of evidence behind this.

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Females often receive a diagnosis of

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ADHD significantly later than do males.

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And there are hormonal factors which

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play an important role in the

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understanding of ADHD in females. So if

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we dig into this paper more, we will

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find hormonal and physical maturation

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differences during puberty may offer a

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better understanding of the differences

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in ADHD prevalence rates in males and

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females. Okay. Think, Rosie, Grace, and

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Quinn found a significant increase in

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the dopamine receptors in the stratum in

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response to estrogen stimulation, which

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increases during puberty in girls. Boys

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show an overproduction of dopamine

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receptors before and during puberty,

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which may contribute to hyperactivity

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symptoms. There is a 55% reduction in

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receptor density in adulthood in boys by

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adulthood. Whereas dopamine girls

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demonstrate a later increase in dopamine

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receptors related to an increase in ex

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estrogen during puberty. Okay, so this

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is fascinating. Incredibly fascinating.

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So, boys start out super high dopamine

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sensitivity. Ah, we love this stuff. And

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then as our frontal loes develop, we

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start to tone down a little bit, right?

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Like we're crazy kids. And then we're

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like kind of moody teenagers. And then

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we become mature men. No man, men don't

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play games. Men do manly things. But

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girls have an increase in dopamine

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sensitivity when they go through

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puberty. And dopamine is hugely

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implicated in ADHD. Okay. So this is

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governed by the D2 receptor sensitivity.

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Okay. But what about the sense of depth

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and the inability to connect because

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people are shallow. So there are two

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other mechanisms which are important

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here. One is that empathy is often

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impaired in ADHD. And now let's

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understand why. So what is empathy?

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Empathy is being able to feel what

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someone else feels. So if we look at how

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empathy works, one of the most important

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things for empathy is sensory input.

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This make sense? If I can't see or hear

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or smell or feel anything from another

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human being, it's hard to have empathy.

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Empathy is critical for the sense of

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connection. So these people with AD ADHD

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are claiming they're like, I don't feel

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connected to other people. I'm deeper

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and they're shallow. So there's a

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disconnect. Part of that disconnection

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is literally sensory information. So

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what I tend to find and if you guys have

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friends with ADHD, what you'll notice is

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like they're kind of operating on their

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in their own world. Their internal

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environment is very engaging. They get

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distracted easily. They start thinking

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about things. Now my attention is over

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there. So it's hard to form empathic

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connections with people from as simple

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as reason is like we don't see what the

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other person we don't pick up their

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facial signals. We're not like really

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paying attention. Our our brain is not

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filtering out the correct information.

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and it is overwhelming us with other

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information. It's it's focused on this.

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So, there's absolutely like an

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inattention sensory element that impairs

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people's empathy. Once we have impaired

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empathy, it's hard to form connection.

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thing, and this relates to estrogen, is

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emotional reactivity. So what does this

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mean? So we know that there are subtypes

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of ADHD which involve difficulty with

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emotional reactivity. Right? So if we

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look at this approximately 25% of

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patients in each population had comorbid

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ADHD and anxiety. The coorbidity between

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ADHD and anxiety deserves careful

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scrutiny its own right. Oh synaptic

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gating. This is a cool paper. So this is

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basically talking about you know so ADHD

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is a neurodedevelopmental disorder which

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means that it like alters the way that

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our brain is formed. It shapes our

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brain. And synaptic gating is this way

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of activation of neurons. And when we

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have problems with our synaptic gating,

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it results in anxiety because we're

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overactivating certain neurons. We're

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underactivating other neurons, right?

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The anti-anxiety neurons are

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underactive. The pro-anxiety neurons are

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overactive. So we see a lot of ADHD and

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anxiety. So here's a key thing to

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understand. When you are deep, what does

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it mean when someone is deep? It means

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that their the volume of their emotional

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experience is greater. Right? So being a

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deep person is not the same as being a

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deep thinker. Often times the two can be

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connected because deep thinkers often

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times have like this like existential

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depth. The reason I think deeply is

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because I feel deeply and I try to think

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deeply. I use thinking deeply to try to

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help me understand and navigate feeling

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deeply. And so are people with ADHD

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deeper? I think there's a strong

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argument to be made for yes. And let's

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understand the components. Number one,

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in ADHD, our emotional circuitry

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activates more quickly. It activates

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more intensely and it lasts longer,

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right? We just saw the coorbidity of

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ADHD and anxiety was 25%. That's crazy.

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We saw some stuff about synaptic gating

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and how the way that our neurons are

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wired will predispose us to more

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feeling. Core mobidity rates for

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depression are also higher. Now let's

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talk about the women component. A couple

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of things. Women have more internalizing

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symptoms. What does that mean? That

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means I spend time inside and then my

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access to the depth. It's not just the

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quantity of emotion, right? There's how

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far down under the mountain can we go

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and then there is how much time do I

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spend above the ground and how much do I

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time do I spend below the ground. So as

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we have internalizing symptoms that are

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prone to things like depression and we

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have a greater emotional reactivity,

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we're spending time underground. We're

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spending time with that depth. Whereas

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people who are neurotypical may be

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spending time above ground even if they

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have an equal amount of depth. But

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chances are they don't feel emotions as

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quickly and as intensely. Now I think

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the total amount of emotion that a

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neurotypical person and a person with

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ADHD can feel is probably about the

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same. I haven't seen any data that

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suggests, except for one thing. We'll

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get to women in a second, that it's not

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like I hurt less if I'm neurotypical. I

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can hurt just as much as someone with

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ADHD. The difference is the frequency of

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my hurt is less. The average intensity

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of my hurt is less, the duration of my

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hurt is less, but the capacity for my

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hurt, I believe, is the same. So, I do

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think it's like an understandable

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experience for there to be a lack of

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connection. So even if someone else is

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capable of that depth, my ability to

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read that that depth is impaired, but

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it's also very reasonable to consider

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that maybe the average neurotypical

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person doesn't spend as much time

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underground as I do and that the average

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trip underground I go way deeper than

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they go. It's actually a completely like

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understandable stance. Last thing comes

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down to estrogen itself. So why are we

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seeing this complaint in women more so

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than men? Doesn't mean that men don't do

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it. It just seems like women are

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complaining about it more, experiencing

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it more. So estrogen literally gives us

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emotional depth. The higher our estrogen

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levels are, the more capacity for

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emotion we have. It sensitizes our

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emotional circuitry. And this like

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happens in dads. So when I became a dad,

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like I started crying in Disney movies

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and I was like, "What the hell is going

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on?" I was so confused. I was like

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sitting there with my 2 and 1/

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halfyear-old and we're like, "Let's

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watch The Lion King." And it's like, "Oh

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my god."

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And I was like, "What is happening?" I

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felt this tightness in my throat. I felt

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like a [ __ ] [ __ ] I was like, "What

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is wrong with me?" I just had access to

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this emotional depth that I didn't have.

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And it's because I my estrogen

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increased. Oh my god. I became

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womanized. I became feminized. Dr. K

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became feminized. No, it's not that. My

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testosterone levels are quite healthy.

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My testosterone levels are quite high.

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But you also get access to estrogen. And

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this is important. The reason that you

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need this is because when you spend time

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with babies, babies can't talk. And so,

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you need to have estrogen to be able to

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have a greater capacity and sensitivity

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for feeling. I need the outside world,

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my I need to turn up the volume way up

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because this little human doesn't know

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how to communicate. And my stem mind, my

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like, hey, if you feel something, let's

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analyze. Look at this, Dr. K. Dr. K does

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this. Oh, you are feeling depth. Let's

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look at the neuroscience of depth and

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let's explain. Let's understand

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mechanistically. What is the

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neuroscience of depth and feeling? What

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is this? Let's break it apart. Let's

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look at this synaptic gating. Let's go,

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[ __ ] Synaptic gating theory. This is

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how I understand the world. I'm a man.

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Look at this. Look at this synaptic

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gate. Beautiful. But unfortunately, when

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my daughter is two, synaptic gating

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theory doesn't really do the job. So,

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you need access to estrogen. And for me,

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it was like amazing because now I like

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art. It's cool. I feel so much more.

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It's great. So, I think this is where

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like women really do feel like, you

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know, I think it makes sense that you

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have more estrogen. Probably the amount

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of depth that you feel, I would bet

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money, I would guess, varies with your

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menstrual cycle. That you feel

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disconnected from other people. Maybe

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because you have difficulty with

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empathy, you have difficulty connecting

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with them, right? But that doesn't mean

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that they're shallow. But it kind of

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does because they may not feel the

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frequency and intensity of emotion.

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doesn't mean that they're shallow as

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people. It just means they spend less

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time at deeper waters. Doesn't mean that

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they don't exist. So, in terms of how to

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do this, how to deal with this, what do

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you do if you feel this depth? I'd say

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number one, be patient, right? You will

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get there faster than other people get

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there, which is so hard for people with

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ADHD. Just be neurotypical. Number two

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is I would say really pay attention to

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the other person. Really try to read

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what they're sending. And the last thing

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that we got to say is that I think more

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people are shallow across the globe. And

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what does that mean when more people are

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shallow? So I think the other reason

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people are observing this is because

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everyone is more shallow. This is like I

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know this is supposed to be a joke but

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there is some truth to this, right? And

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the reason for that is if we look at the

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influence of technology, technology

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brings us outside of ourselves. Even

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when you're reading a book, your

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imagination has to be active in order to

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enjoy the book. Most of the time the way

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that human beings are supposed to be is

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we're somewhat internal. We live

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internally. So even when I read a book

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like I'm in here, the book is just

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triggering this creation internally. But

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now what's happening is our attention is

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moving to the outside. And as we move to

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the outside, we're spreading out along

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the surface. So we have no longer have

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access to the mind shaft and we don't go

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deep. Even when we trigger emotions,

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they're so transient. We don't hang out

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down there. Oh my god, look at these.

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This little cat lost a leg. Oh my god,

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it's so cute. Oh my god, it's so sad.

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[laughter]

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Did you see? Oh my god, this cat is

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surfing. That's hilarious. So, we're

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activating this stuff, but we're not

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living down there. So, I do think that

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it's very possible that, especially if

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you're a woman, maybe a dude, and if

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you're a dude in the audience, feel free

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to chime in, that you do feel things

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more deeply, that you are a little bit

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deeper, that you spend more time down

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there. But I don't think it's as brutal

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as like, oh my god, I'm alone and I have

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no one to connect to. I think you can do

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that. You can form those connections.

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need to be a little bit more socially

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attuned, which is hard, you know, and I

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think people can get there. You just got

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to give them a little bit of time. Hey

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The video explores why individuals with ADHD, particularly women, often feel a unique emotional depth and a sense of disconnection from a perceived "shallow" world. It attributes this to neurodevelopmental features of ADHD, including impaired empathy due to sensory inattention and heightened emotional reactivity, where emotions activate more quickly, intensely, and for longer durations. Hormonal factors, specifically estrogen, are highlighted as a significant contributor to emotional depth in women with ADHD, influencing symptom manifestation and later diagnoses. The speaker also suggests that while neurotypical individuals may have similar capacity for emotional depth, they might spend less time engaging with it. Furthermore, modern technology is posited as a factor contributing to a general societal "shallowness" by externalizing attention and providing only transient emotional engagement.

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