Using Light to Optimize Health | Huberman Lab Essentials
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I'm Andrew Huberman and I'm a professor
of neurobiology and opthalmology at
Stanford School of Medicine. Today we
are going to discuss light and the many
powerful uses of light to optimize our
health. One of the reasons why light has
such powerful effects on so many
different aspects of our biology is that
it can be translated into electrical
signals in our brain and body into
hormone signals in our brain and body
and indeed into what we call cascades of
biological pathways. Meaning light can
actually change the genes that the cells
of your bodies express. And that is true
throughout the lifespan. Light is
electromagnetic energy. It can cause
reactions in cells of your body. It can
cause reactions in fruit, for instance,
right? You see a piece of fruit and it's
not ripe, but it gets a lot of sunlight
and it ripens. That's because the
electromagnetic energy of sunlight had
an impact on that plant or that tree or
even on the fruit directly. Now, the
second thing that you need to understand
about the physics of light is that light
has many different wavelengths. And the
simplest way to conceptualize this is to
imagine that cover of that Pink Floyd
album where there's a prism. You have a
white beam of light going into that
prism and then the prism splits that
beam of light into what looks like a
rainbow. So you got your reds, your
orange, your greens, your blues, your
purples, etc. Now the third bullet point
to understand about the physics of light
is that different wavelengths of light
because of the way that their wave
travels can penetrate tissues to
different depths. Every biological
function of light has to do with the
absorbance or the reflectance of light
or light passing through that particular
thing, meaning that particular cell or
compartment within a cell. I'd like to
make it clear how this works by using
the three primary examples of how you
take light in your environment and
convert it into biological events. We
have photo receptors in the back of our
eyes. These photo receptors come in two
major types. The so-called rods and the
cones. The rods are very elongated. They
look like rods. And the cones look like
little triangles. The other place of
course where light can impact our body
is on our surface on our skin. In the
top layer of skin which is called the
epidermis. We have caratinosytes and we
have melanocytes. With light exposure,
those melanocytes will turn on genetic
programs and other biological programs
that lead to enhanced pigmentation of
the skin, which we call tanning. And the
third example I'd like to provide is
that of every cell of your body. And
what I mean by that is that every cell
of your body, meaning a cell that is
part of your bone tissue or your bone
marrow or heart tissue or liver or
spleen, if light can access those cells,
it will change the way that those cells
function for better or for worse. For
many organs within our body that reside
deep to our skin, light never arrives at
those cells. A really good example of
this is the spleen. Light will never
land directly on your spleen, but the
spleen still responds to light
information through indirect pathways.
Light arriving on the eyes
is absorbed by a particular cell type
called the intrinsically photosensitive
ganglen cell. It's just a name. You
don't need to know the name, but if you
want, it's the so-called intrinsically
photosensitive ganglen cell, also called
the melanopsin cell, because it contains
an opsin, a photo pigment that absorbs
shortwavelength light that arrives
through sunlight. Those cells
communicate to particular stations in
the brain that in turn can connect to
your so-called pineal gland, which is
this little P-sized gland in the middle
of your brain that releases a hormone
called melatonin. And the only thing you
need to know is that light activates
these particular cells, the
intrinsically photosensitive melanopsin
cells, which in turn shuts down the
production of melatonin from the pineal
gland. So melatonin is a transducer.
It's a communicator of how much light on
average is in your physical environment.
What this means is for people living in
the northern hemisphere, you're getting
more melatonin release in the winter
months than you are in the summer
months. So you have a calendar system
that is based in a hormone and that
hormone is using light in order to
determine where you are in that journey
around the sun. Now this is beautiful.
At least to me, it's beautiful because
what it means is that the environment
around us is converted into a signal
that changes the environment within us.
That signal is melatonin. And melatonin
is well known for its role in making us
sleepy each night and allowing us to
fall asleep. Many of you have probably
heard before, I am not a big fan of
melatonin supplementation for a number
of reasons, but just as a quick aside,
the levels of melatonin that are in most
supplements are far too high to really
be considered physiological. They are
indeed super physiological in most
cases. And melatonin can have a number
of different effects, not just related
to sleep. But that's supplemented
melatonin. Here I'm talking about our
natural production and release of
melatonin according to where we are in
the 365day calendar year. Indogenous
melatonin, meaning the melatonin that we
make within our bodies naturally, not
melatonin that's supplemented, has two
general categories of of effects. The
first set of effects are so-called
regulatory effects and the others are
protective effects. The regulatory
effects are for instance that melatonin
can positively impact bone mass.
Melatonin is also involved in maturation
of the gonads during puberty, the
ovaries and the testes. Although there
the effects of melatonin tend to be
suppressive on maturation of the ovaries
and testes. meaning high levels of
melatonin tend to reduce testicle volume
and reduce certain functions within the
testes including sperm production and
testosterone production and within the
ovaries melatonin can suppress the
maturation of eggs etc. Now, I don't
want anyone to get scared if you've been
taking melatonin. Most of the effects of
melatonin on those functions are
reversible. But I should point out that
one of the reasons why children don't go
into puberty until a particular age is
that young children tend to have
chronically high indogenous melatonin,
and that is healthy to keep them out of
puberty until it's the right time for
puberty to happen. I should also mention
that melatonin is a powerful modulator
of placental development. So for anyone
that's pregnant, if you're considering
melatonin supplementation, please,
please, please talk to your OB/GYN, talk
to your other doctor as well, you want
to be very, very cautious because of the
powerful effects that melatonin can have
on the developing fetus and placenta. So
when we think about light impacting our
biology, the reason I bring up melatonin
as the primary example of that is a
because melatonin impacts so many
important functions within our brain and
body, but also because hormones in
general, not always, but in general are
responsible for these slow modulatory
effects on our biology. And so I'm using
this as an example of how light
throughout the year is changing the way
that your the different cells and
tissues and organs of your body are
working and that melatonin is the
transducer of that signal. So in order
to get light information to the pineal
and thereby get the proper levels of
melatonin
according to the time of year, we should
all try and get outside as much as
possible during the long days of summer
and spring. And in the winter months, it
makes sense to spend more time indoors.
For those of you that suffer from
seasonal effective disorder, which is a
seasonal depression, or feel low during
the fall and winter months, there are
ways to offset this. We did an entire
episode on mood and circadian rhythms
where we describe this. So, it does make
sense for some people to get more bright
light in their eyes early in the morning
and throughout the day during the winter
months as well. But nonetheless, changes
in melatonin, meaning changes in the
duration of melatonin release across the
year are normal and healthy. So provided
that you're not suffering from
depression, it's going to be healthy to
somewhat modulate your amount of indoor
and outdoor time across the year. The
other thing to understand is the very
firmly established fact, which is that
light powerfully inhibits melatonin.
If you wake up in the middle of the
night and you go into the bathroom and
you flip on the lights and those are
very bright overhead fluorescent lights,
your melatonin levels, which would
ordinarily be quite high in the middle
of the night because you've been eyes
closed in the dark presumably, will
immediately plummet to near zero or
zero. If you do that every once in a
while, it's not going to be a problem.
But if you're doing that night after
night, you are really disrupting this
fundamental signal that occurs every
night regardless of winter, spring,
summer, etc. And that is communicating
information about where your brain and
body should be in time. In animals such
as mice, but also in humans, exposure to
light, in particular, UV blue light, so
short wavelengths of light, can trigger
increases in testosterone and estrogen
and the desire to mate. But it is not
the exposure of light to the eyes. It
turns out that it is the exposure of
your skin to particular wavelengths of
light that is triggering increases in
the hormones testosterone and estrogen.
I think the results are best understood
by simply going through the primary
data, meaning the actual research on
this topic. And to do so, I'm going to
review a paper that was published in the
journal cell reports, cell press
journal, excellent journal, entitled
skin exposure to UVB light induces a
skin brain gonad axis and sexual
behavior. And I want to emphasize that
this was a paper that focused on mice in
order to address specific mechanisms
because in mice you can so-called knock
out particular genes. You can remove
particular genes to understand
mechanism. You just can't do that in
humans in any kind of controlled way at
least not at this point in time. And
this study also explores humans and
looked at human subjects both men and
women. The basic finding of this study
was that when mice or humans were
exposed to UVB, meaning ultraviolet blue
light, so short wavelength light of the
sort that comes through in sunshine, but
is also available through various
artificial sources.
If they received enough exposure of that
light to their skin,
there were increases in testosterone
that were observed within a very brief
period of time. also increases in the
hormone estrogen. And I should point out
that the proper ratios of estrogen and
testosterone were maintained in both
males and females, at least as far as
these data indicate. And mice tended to
seek out mating more and mate more.
There were also increases in gonatal
weight, literally increases in testes
size and in ovarian size when mice were
exposed to this UVB light past a certain
threshold. They did not look at testes
size or ovarian size in the human
subjects. However, because they are
humans, they did address the psychology
of these human beings and address
whether or not they had increases in,
for instance, aggressiveness or in
passionate feelings and how their
perception of other people changed when
they were getting a lot of UVB
light exposure to the skin. UVB light
exposure also changed various aspects of
female biology related to fertility in
particular follicle growth. Follicle and
egg maturation are well-known indices of
fertility and of course correlate with
the menstrual cycle in adult humans and
is related overall to the propensity to
become pregnant. UVB light exposure
enhanced maturation of the follicle
which just meant that more healthy eggs
were being produced. So in terms of
thinking about a protocol to increase
testosterone and estrogen, mood and
feelings of passion, the idea is that
you would want to get this two to three
exposures per week minimum of 20 to 30
minutes of sunlight exposure onto as
much of your body as you can reasonably
expose it to. Another set of very
impressive effects of UVB light, whether
or not it comes from sunlight or from an
artificial source, is the effect of UVB
light on our tolerance for pain. It
turns out that our tolerance for pain
varies across the year and that our pain
tolerance is increased in longer day
conditions. This is occurring via UVB
exposure to the skin and UVB exposure to
the eyes. I want to just describe two
studies that really capture the essence
of these results. The first study is
entitled skin exposure to ultraviolet B
rapidly activate systemic neuroendocrine
and immunosuppressive responses.
Basically what they observed is that
even one exposure to UVB light change
the output of particular hormones and
neurochemicals in the body such as
corticotropen hormone and betaendorphins
which are these endogenous opioids in
order to counter pain and act as a
somewhat of a psychological soother
also. What they found was that exposure
to UVB light increased the release of
these beta endorphins. Now a second
study published in the journal Neuron
cell press journal excellent journal is
entitled a visual circuit related to the
perryqueductal gray area for the
anti-nosceptive effects of bright light
treatment. I'll translate a little bit
of that for you. The perryqueductal gray
is a region of the midbrain that
contains a lot of neurons that can
release indogenous opioids. things like
beta eneopioid.
These are all names of chemicals that
your body can manufacture that act as
endogenous painkillers and increase your
tolerance for pain. They actually make
you feel less pain overall by shutting
down some of the neurons that perceive
pain. They're not going to block the
pain response so that you burn yourself
unnecessarily or harm yourself
unnecessarily, but they act as a bit of
a painkiller from the inside. The key
finding of this study is that it is
light landing on the eyes is captured by
these melanopsin cells. They absorb that
light, translate that light into
electrical signals that are handed off
to areas of the brain to evoke the
release of these indogenous opioids that
soothe you and lead to less perception
of pain. So for those of you that are
thinking tools and protocols, try to get
some UVB exposure, ideally from
sunlight. I think the 20 to 30 minute
protocol two or three times per week is
an excellent one. Even on a cloud
covered day, you are going to get far
more light energy, photons through cloud
cover than you are going to get from an
indoor light source, an artificial light
source. If you see some sunlight
throughout the day, you would do
yourself a great favor to try and chase
some of that sunlight and get into that
sunlight. Never ever look at any light,
artificial sunlight or otherwise, that's
so bright that it's painful to look at.
It's fine to get that light arriving on
your eyes indirectly. It's fine to wear
eyeglasses or contact lenses. In fact,
if you think about the biology of the
eye and the way that those lenses work,
they will just serve to focus that light
onto the very cells that you want those
light beams to be delivered to. Whereas
sunglasses that are highly reflective or
trying to get your sunlight exposure
through a windshield of a car or through
a window simply won't work. Most windows
are designed to filter out the UVB
light. And if you're somebody who's
really keen on blue blockers and you're
wearing your blue blockers all day,
well, don't wear them outside. And in
fact, you're probably doing yourself a
disservice by wearing them in the
morning and in the daytime. There
certainly is a place for blue blockers
in the evening and nighttime if you're
having issues with falling and staying
asleep. But if you think about it, blue
blockers, what they're really doing is
blocking those short wavelength UVB
wavelengths of light that you so
desperately need to arrive at your
retina and of course also onto your skin
in order to get these powerful
biological effects on hormones and on
pain reduction. These data also might
make you think a little bit about
whether or not you should wear short
sleeves or long sleeves, whether or not
you want to wear shorts or a skirt or
pants. But you might take into
consideration that it is the total
amount of skin exposure that is going to
allow you to capture more or fewer
photons depending on, for instance, if
you're completely cloaked in clothing
and you're just, you know, exposed in
the hands, uh, neck and face such as I
am now, or whether or not you're outside
in shorts and a t-shirt, you're going to
get very, very different patterns of
biological signaling activation in those
two circumstances. Many of you, I'm
guessing, are wondering whether or not
you should seek out UVB exposure
throughout the entire year or only in
the summer months. And that's sort of
going to depend on whether or not you
experience
depression in the winter months,
so-called seasonal effective disorder.
Some people have mild, some people have
severe forms of seasonal effective
disorder. Some people love the fall and
winter and the shorter days. Really, it
has to be considered on a case- by case
basis. I personally believe, and this
was reinforced by the director of the
chronobiology unit at the National
Institutes of Mental Health, Samaritar,
that we would all do well to get more
UVB exposure from sunlight throughout
the entire year, provided we aren't
burning our skin or damaging our eyes in
some way. In addition to that, during
the winter months, if you do experience
some drop in energy or increase in
depression or psychological lows, it can
be very beneficial to access a sad lamp
or if you don't want to buy a sad lamp
because often times they can be very
expensive. You might do well to simply
get a LED lighting panel. Very
inexpensive compared to the typical SAD
lamp. I actually have one and I position
on my desk all day long. I also happen
to have skylights above my desk. I'm
fairly sensitive to the effects of
light, so in longer days, I feel much
better than I do in shorter days. I've
never suffered from full-blown seasonal
effective disorder, but I keep that
light source on throughout the day
throughout the year. But I also make it
a point to get outside and get sunlight
early in the morning and several times
throughout the day. People that are
blind, provided they still have eyes,
often maintain these melanopsin cells.
So even if you're low vision or no
vision, getting UVB exposure to your
eyes can be very beneficial for sake of
mood, hormone pathways, pain reduction
and so forth. A cautionary note, people
who have retinitis pigmentotosa, macular
degeneration or glaucoma, as well as
people who are especially prone to skin
cancers should definitely consult with
your opthalmologist and dermatologist
before you start increasing the total
amount of UVB exposure that you're
getting from any source, sunlight or
otherwise. There are additional very
interesting and powerful effects of UVB
light in particular on immune function.
All the organs of our body are inside
our skin. And so information about
external conditions, meaning the
environment that we're in, need to be
communicated to the various organs of
your body, such as your spleen, which is
involved in the creation of molecules
and cells that combat infection. There
are beautiful studies showing that if we
get more UVB exposure from sunlight or
from appropriate artificial sources
that spleen and immune function are
enhanced and there's a very logical
wellestablished circuit as to how that
happens. Your brain actually connects to
your spleen. UVB light arriving on the
eyes is known to trigger activation of
the neurons within the so-called
sympathetic nervous system. These
neurons are part of the larger thing
that we call the autonomic nervous
system, meaning it's below or not
accessible by conscious control. It's
the thing that controls your heartbeat,
controls your breathing, and that also
activates or flips on the switch of your
immune system. When we get a lot of UVB
light in our eyes or I should say
sufficient UVB light in our eyes, a
particular channel, a particular set of
connections within the sympathetic
nervous system is activated and our
spleen deploys immune cells and
molecules that scavenge for and combat
infection. In other words, the soldiers
of your immune system, the chemicals and
cell types of your immune system that
combat infection are in a more ready
deployed stance, if you will. So, we
often think about the summer months and
the spring months as fewer infections
floating around, but in fact, there
aren't fewer infections floating around.
We are simply better at combating those
infections and therefore there's less
infection floating around. What does
this mean in terms of a tool? What it
means is that during the winter months,
we should be especially conscious of
accessing UVB light to enhance our
spleen function to make sure that our
sympathetic nervous system is activated
to a sufficient level to keep our immune
system deploying all those killer T-
cells and B cells and cytoines so that
when we encounter the infections, as we
inevitably will, we can combat those
infections well. And as just a brief
aside, but I should mention a brief
aside that's related to tens of
thousands of quality studies. It is well
known that wound healing is faster when
we are getting sufficient UVB exposure.
It is known that turnover of hair cells.
The very cells that give rise to hair
cells are called stem cells. They live
in little so-called niches in our skin
with these hair stem cells and your hair
grows faster in longer days. That too is
triggered by UVB exposure. not just to
the skin but to the eyes. That's right.
There was a study published in the
proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences a couple of years ago that
showed that the exposure of those
melanops and ganglin cells in your eyes
is absolutely critical for triggering
the turnover of stem cells in both the
skin and hair and also it turns out in
nails. So, if you've noticed that your
skin, your hair, and your nails look
better and turn over more, meaning grow
faster in longer days, that is not a
coincidence. That is not just your
perception. In fact, hair grows more.
Skin turns over more, meaning it's going
to look more youthful. You're going to
essentially remove older skin cells and
replace them with new cells. and all the
renewing cells and tissues of our body
are going to proliferate are going to
recreate themselves more when we're
getting sufficient UVB light to our eyes
and also to our skin. There's also
another time of day or rather I should
say a time of night in which UVB can be
leveraged in order to improve mood but
it's actually the inverse of everything
we've been talking about up until now.
We have a particular neural circuit that
originates with those melanopsin cells
in our eye that bypass all the areas of
the brain associated with circadian
clocks. So everything related to sleep
and wakefulness that's specifically
dedicated to the pathways involving the
release of molecules like dopamine and
other molecules as well including
serotonin and some of those indogenous
opioids that we talked about before.
That particular pathway involves a brain
structure called the perihabenular
nucleus. The perihabenular nucleus gets
input from the cells in the eye that
respond to UVB light and frankly to
bright light of other wavelengths as
well because as you recall if a light is
bright enough even if it's not UV or
blue light it can activate those cells
in the eye those cells in the eye
communicate to the perihabenular nucleus
and as it turns out if this pathway is
activated at the wrong time of each
24-hour cycle mood gets worse. Dopamine
output gets worse. Molecules that are
there specifically to make us feel good
actually are reduced in their output.
Avoiding UVB light at night is actually
a way in which we can prevent activation
of this eye to perihabular pathway that
can actually turn on depression. to be
very direct and succinct about this.
Avoid exposure to UVB light from
artificial sources between the hours of
10 p.m. and 4:00 a.m. If you view UVB
light, you activate those neurons in
your eye very potently. And if those
cells communicate to the perihabular
nucleus, which they do, you will
truncate or reduce the amount of
dopamine that you release.
So if you want to keep your mood
elevated, get a lot of light, UVB light
throughout the day. And at night, really
be cautious about getting UVB exposure
from artificial sources. Now, I wouldn't
want people to become so neurotic about
UVB exposure that they won't flip on a
light at all. But you would do well, for
instance, to put any artificial lights
that you have on in the evening, kind of
low in your physical environment.
Because these melanopsin cells reside in
the lower half of our eyes, they view
the upper visual field. That makes sense
because they were designed to
essentially respond to sunlight coming
from above us
and try and dim those lights as far down
as you safely can. Now, I'd like to
shift our attention to the other end of
the spectrum, meaning the light
spectrum, to talk about red light and
infrared light, which is long wavelength
light. So, you're probably asking, or at
least you should be asking, how is it
that shining red light on our skin can
impact things like acne and wound
healing, etc. To understand that, we
have to think back to the beginning of
the episode where I described how
longwavelength light such as red light
and near infrared light which is even
longer than red light can pass through
certain surfaces including our skin. So
our skin has an epidermis which is on
the outside and the dermis which is in
the deeper layers. Red light and
infrared light can pass down into the
deeper layers of our skin where it can
change the metabolic function of
particular cells. So let's just take
acne as an example. Within the dermis,
the deep layers of our skin, we have
what are called sebaceous glands that
actually make the oil that is present in
our skin. Those sebaceous glands are
often nearby hair follicles. So if
you've ever had a infected hair
follicle, that's not a coincidence that
hair follicles tend to get infected.
Part of it is because there's actually a
portal down and around the hair
follicle. But the sebaceous gland is
where the oil is created that is going
to give rise to for instance acne
lesions. Also in the dermis in the deep
layers of the skin are the melanocytes.
They're not just in the epidermis.
They're also in the deeper layers of the
skin. And you have the stem cells that
give rise to additional skin cells. If
the top layers of the epidermis are
damaged, those stem cells can become
activated. And you also have the stem
cells that give rise to hair follicles.
What happens is the top layers of the
skin are basically burned off by a very
low level of burn andor the cells in the
deeper layer start to churn out new
cells which go and rescue the lesion
essentially clear out the lesion and
replace that lesion with healthy skin
cells.
This does work in the context of wound
healing getting scars to disappear. It
also works to remove certain patches of
pigmentation. Long wavelength light can
actually get deep into the skin. I
mentioned that before, but can also get
into individual cells and can access the
so-called organels. In particular, they
can access the mitochondria which are
responsible for producing ATP. As cells
age, and in particular in very
metabolically active cells,
they accumulate what are called ROS's,
reactive oxygen species. And as reactive
oxygen species go up, ATP energy
production in those cells tends to go
down. It's a general statement, but it's
a general statement that in most cases
is true. So the way to think about this
is that red light passes into the deeper
layers of the skin, activates
mitochondria, which increases ATP and
directly or indirectly reduces these
reactive oxygen species. These reactive
oxygen species are not good. We don't
want them. They cause cellar damage,
cellar death, and for the most part just
inhibit the way that our cells work. So,
if you've heard of red light or near
infrared light therapies designed to
heal skin or improve skin quality or
remove lesions or get rid of scars or
unwanted pigmentation. That is not
pseudocience. That is not woo science.
That is grounded in the very biology of
how light interacts with mitochondria
and reactive oxygen species. The key
point here is that light is activating
particular pathways in cells that can
either drive death of cells or can make
those cells essentially younger by
increasing ATP by way of improving
mitochondrial function. And in recent
years, there have been some just
beautiful examples that exist not only
in the realm of skin biology, but in the
realm of neurobiology,
whereby red light and near infrared
light can actually be used to enhance
the function of the cells that for
instance allow us to see better and
indeed cells that allow us to think
better. And these are the data from Dr.
Glenn Jeffrey at University College
London who again is a long-standing
member of the neuroscience community
working on visual neuroscience and who
over the last decade or so has really
emphasized the exploration of red light
and near infrared light for restoration
of neuronal function as we age. The
Jeffrey Lab has published two studies in
recent years on humans that looked
directly at how red light and near
infrared light can improve visual
function. The Jeffrey Lab approached
these studies with that understanding of
how mitochondria and reactive oxygen
species and ATP work. And what they did
is they had people, subjects that were
either younger, so in their 20s, or 40
years old or older,
view red light of about 670 nanometers.
670 nanometers would appear red to you
and me. They had they had them do that,
excuse me, at a distance that was safe
for their eyes. So at about a foot away.
And they had them do that anywhere from
2 to 3 minutes per day. And in one study
they had them do that for a long period
of time of about 12 weeks. And in the
other study they had them do that just
for a couple of weeks. The major
findings were that in individuals 40
years old or older, so in the 40 to 72
year old bracket, but not in the
subjects younger than 40 years old. They
saw an improvement in visual function.
That improvement in visual function was
an improvement in visual acuity meaning
the ability to resolve fine detail and
using a particular measure of visual
function which is called the Triton exam
tr I tan Triton exam which specifically
addresses the function of the so-called
shortwavelength cones the ones that
respond to green and blue light they saw
a 22% improvement in visual acuity which
in the landscape of visual testing is an
extremely exciting result. As we age, we
tend to lose rods. We tend to lose other
cells within the retina, including the
cells that connect the eye to the brain,
the so-called ganglen cells. However,
because rods and cones, both are not
just among the most metabolically active
cells in your entire body, but the most
metabolically active cells in your
entire body. Those cells tend to
accumulate a lot of reactive oxygen
species as we age. Red light of the sort
used in these studies was able to reduce
the amount of reactive oxygen species in
the rods and cones and to rescue the
function of this particular cone type,
the short wavelength and medium
wavelength cones. The important takeaway
here is that viewing red light and near
infrared light at a distance at which it
is safe for just a couple of minutes
each day allowed a reversal of the aging
process of these neurons. So here we're
seeing a reversal of the aging process
in neurons by shining red light on those
neurons. So a little bit more about the
studies from the Jeffrey lab. One of the
things that they observed was a
reduction in so-called dusen duen.
Dusen are little fatty deposits, little
cholesterol deposits that accumulate in
the eye as we age. Our neural retina
being so metabolically active requires a
lot of blood flow. It's heavily
vascularized and dusen are a special
form of cholesterol that accumulate in
the eye. As it turns out, these red
light and near infrared light therapies
explored by the Jeffrey lab were able to
actually reduce or reverse some of the
accumulation of dusen. And so in
addition to reducing reactive oxygen
species, the idea in mind now is that
red light may actually reduce
cholesterol deposits and reactive oxygen
species in order to improve neuronal
function. So what should you and I do
with these results or should we do
anything with these results? Well, first
of all, I want to emphasize that even
though these studies are very exciting,
they are fairly recent and so more data
as always are needed. There's some
additional features of these studies
that I think are also important to
consider. First of all, the exposure to
red light needed to happen early in the
day, at least within the first 3 hours
of waking.
How would one do that? Well, nowadays
there are a number of different red
light panels and different red light
sources that certainly fall within the
range of red light and near infrared
light that one could use. So, if you're
somebody who wants to explore red light
therapy, here's what you need to do. You
need to make sure that that red light
source, it's not so bright that you're
damaging your eye. A good rule of thumb
is that something isn't painful to look
at. And in fact, I should just emphasize
that anytime you look at any light
source, sunlight or otherwise, that it's
painful and makes you want to squint or
close your eyes, that means it's too
bright to look at without closing your
eyes. Okay, that's sort of a duh, but I
would loathe to think that anyone would
harm themselves with bright light in any
way. I don't just say that to protect
us. I say that to protect you, of
course, because you are responsible for
your health. And again, retinal neurons
do not regenerate. Once they are gone
and dead, they do not come back. The
wavelength of light is important. It is
red light and near infrared light that
is going to be effective in this
scenario. The authors of this study
emphasized that it was red light of 670
nanometers in wavelength and near
infrared light of 790 nanometers in
wavelength that were effective and that
those wavelengths could be
complimentary. A lot of the commercially
available red light panels that you'll
find out there combine both red light
and near infrared light. However, I want
to emphasize that most of the panels
that are commercially available are
going to be too bright to safely look at
very close up. And in fact, that's why
most of those red light panels are
designed for illumination of the skin
and oftentimes arrive in their packaging
with eye protectors that are actually
designed to shield out all the red
light. So take the potential dangers of
excessive illumination of the eyes with
any wavelength of light seriously. But
if you're going to explore 670 and 790
nanometer light for sake of enhancing
neuronal function, set it at a distance
that's comfortable to look at and that
doesn't force you to squint or doesn't
make you feel uncomfortable physically
as if you need to turn away during the
period of that two to three minute
illumination each day. So the studies I
just described once again involve the
use of red light early in the day within
three hours of waking and are for the
sake of improving neuronal function. Red
light has also been shown to be
beneficial
late in the day and even in the middle
of the night. And when I say middle of
the night, I'm referring to studies that
explored the use of red light for shift
workers. I realize that many people are
doing shift work or they have to work
certainly past 10 p.m. or maybe they're
taking care of young children in the
middle of the night and they have to be
up. In that case, red light can actually
be very beneficial. And nowadays, there
are a lot of sources of red light
available just as red light bulbs. You
don't need a panel. So, what I'm
basically saying is that it can be
beneficial to use red lights at night.
The study I'd like to emphasize in this
context is entitled red light, a novel
non-farmacological intervention to
promote alertness in shift workers. The
takeaway from this study is very clear.
If you need to be awake late at night
for sake of shift work or studying or
taking care of children, etc., Red light
is going to be your best choice because
if the red light is sufficiently dim,
it's not going to inhibit melatonin
production and it's not going to
increase cortisol at night. Cortisol
should be high early in the day or at
least should be elevated relative to
other times of day if you are healthy. A
late shifted increase in cortisol,
however, 9M cortisol, 10 p.m. cortisol
is well known to be associated with
depression and other aspects of mental
health, rash, as a mental illness. So,
if you do need to be awake at night or
even all night, red light is going to be
the preferred light source. And in terms
of how bright to make it, well, as dim
as you can while still being able to
perform the activities that you need to
perform. That's going to be your best
guide. Today I covered what I would say
is a lot of information. My goal was to
give you an understanding of how light
can be used to change the activities of
cells, organels within those cells,
entire organs, and how that can happen
locally and systemically. So, thank you
once again for joining me today for this
deep dive discussion into
phototherapies, meaning the power of
light to modulate our biology and
health. And as always, thank you for
your interest in science.
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This episode of Huberman Lab Essentials discusses the profound impact of light on human biology, affecting mental health, physical health, and performance. Light, as electromagnetic energy, can be translated into electrical and hormonal signals, and even alter gene expression. Different wavelengths of light penetrate tissues to varying depths, with the eyes and skin being primary entry points. The podcast delves into how light regulates melatonin production, influencing sleep, mood, bone mass, and puberty, while cautioning against excessive melatonin supplementation. It highlights the significant effects of UVB light, showing how skin exposure can increase testosterone and estrogen, enhance fertility, boost pain tolerance (via endogenous opioids), and strengthen immune function by activating the spleen. Additionally, UVB light promotes faster turnover of skin, hair, and nails. The discussion emphasizes the importance of timing, noting that nighttime exposure to bright or UVB light can negatively impact mood by reducing dopamine. Conversely, red and near-infrared light offer benefits like improving skin health (reducing acne, scars, and pigmentation) by enhancing mitochondrial function. For vision, specific red light therapy can reverse age-related neuronal decline, improving visual acuity. The episode provides actionable protocols for leveraging different light types throughout the day and night for optimal health, while also stressing safety precautions.
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