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Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are two of

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the most popular and longest lasting

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youth organizations in the United States

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with each one of them dating back more

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than 100 years. I should point out that

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in early 2025, Boy Scouts of America was

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officially rebranded as Scouting America

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to reflect the inclusion of girls as

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well, but strictly to avoid confusion, I

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am simply going to refer to them as the

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Boy Scouts throughout this video. Now,

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from a distance, these organizations can

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appear to be very similar. They take

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young individuals and try to build their

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character by instilling values that most

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people would consider to be important.

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Part of this is done by earning badges

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that often have a strong focus on

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community leadership in the outdoors.

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And we cannot deny that these programs

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have been meaningful and effective to

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millions of people over that century.

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Some of the most successful people out

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there have been members of one of these

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organizations. Former Boy Scouts include

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Neil Armstrong, Steven Spielberg, and

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Michael Jordan, while former Girl Scouts

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include Martha Stewart, Hillary Clinton,

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and Taylor Swift, just to name a few

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that stand out to me. The Girl Scouts

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conducted a survey in 2015 that showed

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52% of women in business were a Girl

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Scout at some point as well as most

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female elected officials. However,

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despite the obvious similarities here,

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these are in fact two separate

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organizations with some notable

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differences. So, in this video, I think

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it would be valuable to talk about their

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history while comparing them in five key

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categories. Starting off where else but

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at the beginning with their foundation.

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The whole scouting concept was

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originated in Great Britain in the early

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1900s by a cavalry officer named Robert

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Ben Powell who quickly proved to be a

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major inspiration behind both American

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organizations. Legend has it that

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William Dvoice, a publisher from

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Chicago, was wandering the unfamiliar,

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foggy streets of London when he

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encountered an unknown scout, a

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mysterious member of the newly founded

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British Boy Scouts that helped him get

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to where he needed to go. that scout

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refused to accept a tip after doing it.

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And the encounter motivated him to set

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up a meeting with Robert Baden Powell

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that ultimately led to Boyce officially

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incorporating the Boy Scouts of America

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in February of 1910. For the Girl

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Scouts, again, there was already a

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version of it in the UK founded by

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Robert Ben Powell that was led by his

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sister Agnes. Juliet Gordon Lo, also

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known as Daisy Lo, was involved with

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that organization before creating her

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own version of it in Savannah, Georgia.

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It started out with a single troop of 18

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girls and within a decade there were

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70,000 members with branches in every US

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state. I want to point out that the

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American Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts were

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directly inspired by the same British

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concept. So many of the differences have

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slowly developed over the decades.

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Probably the most publicized difference

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would be the next category on my list,

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inclusion. Going way back before the

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civil rights movement, as you might

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expect, there was a lot of segregation

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happening with Boy Scouts and Girl

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Scouts, mostly in the southern states.

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But it looks like the Girl Scouts were

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more aggressive in integrating the

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troops. In 1956, Martin Luther King Jr.,

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a former Boy Scout, even called the Girl

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Scouts a force for desegregation. Part

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of that difference is likely attributed

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to the Boy Scouts association with the

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Mormon Church. It became a tradition

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where young male members of the church

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were expected to join the Boy Scouts. In

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1974, the Boy Scouts were sued by the

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NAACP because of the church's policy

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that prohibited young black individuals

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from holding leadership positions in

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troops that they sponsored. The Boy

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Scouts have also been criticized for

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their stance toward gay members. In

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1978, they made an official policy that

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prohibited openly gay people from

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joining. In 1999, an assistant

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scoutmaster named James Dale was forced

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to leave after they learned he was gay.

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He filed a lawsuit against them that

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ultimately ended in a 5 to4 Supreme

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Court decision in favor of the Boy

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Scouts. In 2012, maybe you remember that

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an online petition was gaining a lot of

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traction after a member was denied Eagle

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Scout status because he was gay. So,

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there is a lot that could be said about

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the subject. To cut it short, in 2013

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the policy was changed to allow gay

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youth to join and then two years later

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they started allowing gay adults. And as

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of 2019, the program has been completely

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opened up for girls to join as well.

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They later changed the name of the

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organization to reflect that and say

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that girls currently make up about 20%

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of their members, which translates to

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over 200,000 people. The Girl Scouts

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then went on to sue the Boy Scouts

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because they felt that some of their new

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messaging would confuse parents into

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signing their girls up for programs of

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theirs that they thought were Girl Scout

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programs, if that makes sense.

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Meanwhile, the Girl Scouts have been

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firm on their stance to not allow boys.

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Their explanation is essentially that

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boys and girls are integrated

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practically everywhere else in life and

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that there is value in having a space

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just for girls. I want to take a second

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to acknowledge that these are

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controversial subjects. So without going

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into too much detail here, I'm simply

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trying to convey objectively that the

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Boy Scouts have progressively become

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more inclusive. Moving away from this

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and onto a much more fun category,

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fundraising. Because the Girl Scouts are

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responsible for one of the most

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successful fundraising campaigns of all

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time. Every year they sell around 200

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million boxes of Thin Mints and

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Dosey-Doss and all the other uniquely

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named cookies, which translates to

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something like 1 billion in sales. Money

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that goes back toward the local councils

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and troops that sold the cookies. This

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year they have a new flavor called

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Explore, another unique name inspired by

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Rocky Road ice cream. So you might want

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to keep that one in mind as the Girl

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Scout cookie season approaches early in

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the year. All the way back in 1917, a

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troop in Oklahoma baked some homemade

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cookies and sold them at a local high

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school as a service project. By the

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1930s, they started licensing commercial

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bakeries to make the cookies on a large

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scale so that they could be sold

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nationwide. In the 1970s, they cut down

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on the number of bakeries and made the

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boxes all the same so they could have a

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more standardized product. And since the

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1990s, local Girl Scout councils, have

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chosen between ABC Bakers and Little

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Brownie Bakers, currently owned by

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Ferrero, to provide their cookies, which

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accounts for some naming and recipe

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differences that you may have noticed.

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Look, I can spend this entire video

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talking about cookies. I have done that

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before, but those are the highlights.

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And I do not have nearly as much to say

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about the Boy Scouts in this category.

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Over the years, they have sold a lot of

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different stuff to make money, like beef

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jerky and fertilizer has been a big one.

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But the main one that I can point to is

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popcorn, specifically Trails End brand,

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made by the Weaver Popcorn Company from

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Indiana. The Boy Scouts first sold it in

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1979 in Evansville, Indiana, and have

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since made an estimated $4 billion from

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it. Not exactly Girl Scout cookie

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numbers, but still impressive. My next

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comparison is going to be about the

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levels and awards. Now, I will admit

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that there is not much about the

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business end here, but I imagine these

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would be some of the bigger factors to

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consider for any parents or young girls

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trying to decide which organization is

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best for them. And I guess the main

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difference here is that the Girl Scouts

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are separated into six different levels

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based on age, with the youngest group

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being called the Daisies, named after

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their founder, Daisy Lowe. Whereas the

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Boy Scouts are separated into seven

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different ranks based on skill and

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achievements. The highest rank being

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Eagle Scout that requires 21 merit

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badges along with an extensive service

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project. The highest achievement for a

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Girl Scout, kind of like the Eagle Scout

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equivalent, is called the Gold Award,

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which requires its own community

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project. And they say that only about 5%

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of Girl Scouts ever receive it. 3,300 of

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them are earned each year compared to

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3.8 million badges earned each year. So,

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that shows you just how much harder it

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is to earn compared to a badge. By the

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way, the Boy Scouts offer 130 merit

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badges that can be earned, whereas the

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Girl Scouts just call them badges, and

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they are much less specific. Overall,

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the Boy Scout experience is more general

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and structured, while the Girl Scouts

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tend to be more personalized and

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flexible. For my final comparison, I

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want to talk about how the Boy Scouts

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and the Girl Scouts have been declining.

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It is hard to find verifiable numbers

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concerning their membership, but as far

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as I can tell, both organizations seem

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to have been the most popular throughout

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the 1970s when the Boy Scouts had close

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to 5 million members and the Girl Scouts

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had around 4 million. Today, both of

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those numbers seem to be a little over 1

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million, which becomes more drastic when

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you consider the population increase

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over that time. It's hard to quantify

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exactly, but the bottom line is that a

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much lower percentage of children are

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joining these organizations. In fact,

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the Boy Scouts claimed that their

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membership was almost cut in half during

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2020, even before the pandemic started.

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The Mormon church ended their

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association with them in favor of

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launching its own youth programs, and

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they filed for bankruptcy, mostly

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because they have had to pay so much

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money to survivors of sexual abuse. It

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has been a documented issue going back

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to the 1960s. And at this point, I guess

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there have been more than 82,000 claims

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against them, which is obviously a

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troubling number that has hurt the

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organization both financially and as far

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as their reputation. And even though the

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Girl Scouts have not experienced

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anything quite as severe, they have

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still been struggling. In 2024, they put

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out a statement that said, "Ooperating

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at a deficit, spending more than we

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bring in as we have been doing is not

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sustainable. We can no longer afford to

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use our financial reserves and we cannot

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pass through all escalating costs to our

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councils. Remember the local councils

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and troops are the ones making money

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from the cookies while the Girl Scout

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organization relies mostly on membership

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dues. They have been losing 4 to5

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million each year. So their solution has

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been a steep increase in those

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membership costs. After holding steady

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at $25 for eight straight years, they

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are set to go up to $45 in 2026 and $65

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the year after, which would still be

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cheaper than the $85 per year that the

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Boy Scouts currently charged that has

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also increased steeply over the past few

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years. Cultural and economic factors

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along with some scandals and a declining

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perception of these organizations have

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forced them to rely more heavily on each

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person involved. Since there are fewer

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people, each one has to contribute more.

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And there does not seem to be much

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evidence out there to suggest that these

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trends will reverse anytime soon. Let me

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know in the comments what do you think

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about these organizations. Are they

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great places to help shape the youth of

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America? Or are they outdated, maybe

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even unethical options with easier and

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more effective alternatives out there?

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Why do you think the numbers have been

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declining so much? And what do you see

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for the future? One more time. I realize

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people are going to be passionate about

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some of these subjects, so please just

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keep it cool and try not to read too far

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into anything I said here. It is all

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meant to be objective and

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businessoriented. So, to keep it light

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at the end here, I'm going to ask, what

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is your favorite Girl Scout cookie? Thin

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Mints has to be the most obvious answer,

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right? It is the most popular. But are

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there any that we may have been

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overlooking? That could be valuable

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information. And any other thoughts you

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have about the Boy Scouts or the Girl

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Scouts, leave them in the comments. I'd

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like to hear what you have to say. Thank

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you for watching.

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Interactive Summary

This video compares the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, two long-standing youth organizations in the United States. It highlights their shared origins in early 20th-century Britain, inspired by Robert Baden-Powell. While both organizations aim to build character and instill values through activities like earning badges focused on leadership and the outdoors, they have developed distinct differences over time. The video touches upon their histories, the evolution of their inclusivity policies (with Boy Scouts becoming more open to girls and LGBTQ+ members, while Girl Scouts maintain a girls-only policy), their fundraising methods (Girl Scout cookies being a significant success compared to Boy Scouts' popcorn sales), and their award structures (Girl Scouts' age-based levels and Gold Award versus Boy Scouts' skill-based ranks and Eagle Scout). Finally, it discusses the decline in membership for both organizations since the 1970s, attributing it to various factors including societal changes, scandals (particularly the Boy Scouts' sexual abuse lawsuits and bankruptcy), and financial struggles, leading to increased membership costs.

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