Boy Scouts vs. Girl Scouts
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Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are two of
the most popular and longest lasting
youth organizations in the United States
with each one of them dating back more
than 100 years. I should point out that
in early 2025, Boy Scouts of America was
officially rebranded as Scouting America
to reflect the inclusion of girls as
well, but strictly to avoid confusion, I
am simply going to refer to them as the
Boy Scouts throughout this video. Now,
from a distance, these organizations can
appear to be very similar. They take
young individuals and try to build their
character by instilling values that most
people would consider to be important.
Part of this is done by earning badges
that often have a strong focus on
community leadership in the outdoors.
And we cannot deny that these programs
have been meaningful and effective to
millions of people over that century.
Some of the most successful people out
there have been members of one of these
organizations. Former Boy Scouts include
Neil Armstrong, Steven Spielberg, and
Michael Jordan, while former Girl Scouts
include Martha Stewart, Hillary Clinton,
and Taylor Swift, just to name a few
that stand out to me. The Girl Scouts
conducted a survey in 2015 that showed
52% of women in business were a Girl
Scout at some point as well as most
female elected officials. However,
despite the obvious similarities here,
these are in fact two separate
organizations with some notable
differences. So, in this video, I think
it would be valuable to talk about their
history while comparing them in five key
categories. Starting off where else but
at the beginning with their foundation.
The whole scouting concept was
originated in Great Britain in the early
1900s by a cavalry officer named Robert
Ben Powell who quickly proved to be a
major inspiration behind both American
organizations. Legend has it that
William Dvoice, a publisher from
Chicago, was wandering the unfamiliar,
foggy streets of London when he
encountered an unknown scout, a
mysterious member of the newly founded
British Boy Scouts that helped him get
to where he needed to go. that scout
refused to accept a tip after doing it.
And the encounter motivated him to set
up a meeting with Robert Baden Powell
that ultimately led to Boyce officially
incorporating the Boy Scouts of America
in February of 1910. For the Girl
Scouts, again, there was already a
version of it in the UK founded by
Robert Ben Powell that was led by his
sister Agnes. Juliet Gordon Lo, also
known as Daisy Lo, was involved with
that organization before creating her
own version of it in Savannah, Georgia.
It started out with a single troop of 18
girls and within a decade there were
70,000 members with branches in every US
state. I want to point out that the
American Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts were
directly inspired by the same British
concept. So many of the differences have
slowly developed over the decades.
Probably the most publicized difference
would be the next category on my list,
inclusion. Going way back before the
civil rights movement, as you might
expect, there was a lot of segregation
happening with Boy Scouts and Girl
Scouts, mostly in the southern states.
But it looks like the Girl Scouts were
more aggressive in integrating the
troops. In 1956, Martin Luther King Jr.,
a former Boy Scout, even called the Girl
Scouts a force for desegregation. Part
of that difference is likely attributed
to the Boy Scouts association with the
Mormon Church. It became a tradition
where young male members of the church
were expected to join the Boy Scouts. In
1974, the Boy Scouts were sued by the
NAACP because of the church's policy
that prohibited young black individuals
from holding leadership positions in
troops that they sponsored. The Boy
Scouts have also been criticized for
their stance toward gay members. In
1978, they made an official policy that
prohibited openly gay people from
joining. In 1999, an assistant
scoutmaster named James Dale was forced
to leave after they learned he was gay.
He filed a lawsuit against them that
ultimately ended in a 5 to4 Supreme
Court decision in favor of the Boy
Scouts. In 2012, maybe you remember that
an online petition was gaining a lot of
traction after a member was denied Eagle
Scout status because he was gay. So,
there is a lot that could be said about
the subject. To cut it short, in 2013
the policy was changed to allow gay
youth to join and then two years later
they started allowing gay adults. And as
of 2019, the program has been completely
opened up for girls to join as well.
They later changed the name of the
organization to reflect that and say
that girls currently make up about 20%
of their members, which translates to
over 200,000 people. The Girl Scouts
then went on to sue the Boy Scouts
because they felt that some of their new
messaging would confuse parents into
signing their girls up for programs of
theirs that they thought were Girl Scout
programs, if that makes sense.
Meanwhile, the Girl Scouts have been
firm on their stance to not allow boys.
Their explanation is essentially that
boys and girls are integrated
practically everywhere else in life and
that there is value in having a space
just for girls. I want to take a second
to acknowledge that these are
controversial subjects. So without going
into too much detail here, I'm simply
trying to convey objectively that the
Boy Scouts have progressively become
more inclusive. Moving away from this
and onto a much more fun category,
fundraising. Because the Girl Scouts are
responsible for one of the most
successful fundraising campaigns of all
time. Every year they sell around 200
million boxes of Thin Mints and
Dosey-Doss and all the other uniquely
named cookies, which translates to
something like 1 billion in sales. Money
that goes back toward the local councils
and troops that sold the cookies. This
year they have a new flavor called
Explore, another unique name inspired by
Rocky Road ice cream. So you might want
to keep that one in mind as the Girl
Scout cookie season approaches early in
the year. All the way back in 1917, a
troop in Oklahoma baked some homemade
cookies and sold them at a local high
school as a service project. By the
1930s, they started licensing commercial
bakeries to make the cookies on a large
scale so that they could be sold
nationwide. In the 1970s, they cut down
on the number of bakeries and made the
boxes all the same so they could have a
more standardized product. And since the
1990s, local Girl Scout councils, have
chosen between ABC Bakers and Little
Brownie Bakers, currently owned by
Ferrero, to provide their cookies, which
accounts for some naming and recipe
differences that you may have noticed.
Look, I can spend this entire video
talking about cookies. I have done that
before, but those are the highlights.
And I do not have nearly as much to say
about the Boy Scouts in this category.
Over the years, they have sold a lot of
different stuff to make money, like beef
jerky and fertilizer has been a big one.
But the main one that I can point to is
popcorn, specifically Trails End brand,
made by the Weaver Popcorn Company from
Indiana. The Boy Scouts first sold it in
1979 in Evansville, Indiana, and have
since made an estimated $4 billion from
it. Not exactly Girl Scout cookie
numbers, but still impressive. My next
comparison is going to be about the
levels and awards. Now, I will admit
that there is not much about the
business end here, but I imagine these
would be some of the bigger factors to
consider for any parents or young girls
trying to decide which organization is
best for them. And I guess the main
difference here is that the Girl Scouts
are separated into six different levels
based on age, with the youngest group
being called the Daisies, named after
their founder, Daisy Lowe. Whereas the
Boy Scouts are separated into seven
different ranks based on skill and
achievements. The highest rank being
Eagle Scout that requires 21 merit
badges along with an extensive service
project. The highest achievement for a
Girl Scout, kind of like the Eagle Scout
equivalent, is called the Gold Award,
which requires its own community
project. And they say that only about 5%
of Girl Scouts ever receive it. 3,300 of
them are earned each year compared to
3.8 million badges earned each year. So,
that shows you just how much harder it
is to earn compared to a badge. By the
way, the Boy Scouts offer 130 merit
badges that can be earned, whereas the
Girl Scouts just call them badges, and
they are much less specific. Overall,
the Boy Scout experience is more general
and structured, while the Girl Scouts
tend to be more personalized and
flexible. For my final comparison, I
want to talk about how the Boy Scouts
and the Girl Scouts have been declining.
It is hard to find verifiable numbers
concerning their membership, but as far
as I can tell, both organizations seem
to have been the most popular throughout
the 1970s when the Boy Scouts had close
to 5 million members and the Girl Scouts
had around 4 million. Today, both of
those numbers seem to be a little over 1
million, which becomes more drastic when
you consider the population increase
over that time. It's hard to quantify
exactly, but the bottom line is that a
much lower percentage of children are
joining these organizations. In fact,
the Boy Scouts claimed that their
membership was almost cut in half during
2020, even before the pandemic started.
The Mormon church ended their
association with them in favor of
launching its own youth programs, and
they filed for bankruptcy, mostly
because they have had to pay so much
money to survivors of sexual abuse. It
has been a documented issue going back
to the 1960s. And at this point, I guess
there have been more than 82,000 claims
against them, which is obviously a
troubling number that has hurt the
organization both financially and as far
as their reputation. And even though the
Girl Scouts have not experienced
anything quite as severe, they have
still been struggling. In 2024, they put
out a statement that said, "Ooperating
at a deficit, spending more than we
bring in as we have been doing is not
sustainable. We can no longer afford to
use our financial reserves and we cannot
pass through all escalating costs to our
councils. Remember the local councils
and troops are the ones making money
from the cookies while the Girl Scout
organization relies mostly on membership
dues. They have been losing 4 to5
million each year. So their solution has
been a steep increase in those
membership costs. After holding steady
at $25 for eight straight years, they
are set to go up to $45 in 2026 and $65
the year after, which would still be
cheaper than the $85 per year that the
Boy Scouts currently charged that has
also increased steeply over the past few
years. Cultural and economic factors
along with some scandals and a declining
perception of these organizations have
forced them to rely more heavily on each
person involved. Since there are fewer
people, each one has to contribute more.
And there does not seem to be much
evidence out there to suggest that these
trends will reverse anytime soon. Let me
know in the comments what do you think
about these organizations. Are they
great places to help shape the youth of
America? Or are they outdated, maybe
even unethical options with easier and
more effective alternatives out there?
Why do you think the numbers have been
declining so much? And what do you see
for the future? One more time. I realize
people are going to be passionate about
some of these subjects, so please just
keep it cool and try not to read too far
into anything I said here. It is all
meant to be objective and
businessoriented. So, to keep it light
at the end here, I'm going to ask, what
is your favorite Girl Scout cookie? Thin
Mints has to be the most obvious answer,
right? It is the most popular. But are
there any that we may have been
overlooking? That could be valuable
information. And any other thoughts you
have about the Boy Scouts or the Girl
Scouts, leave them in the comments. I'd
like to hear what you have to say. Thank
you for watching.
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This video compares the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, two long-standing youth organizations in the United States. It highlights their shared origins in early 20th-century Britain, inspired by Robert Baden-Powell. While both organizations aim to build character and instill values through activities like earning badges focused on leadership and the outdoors, they have developed distinct differences over time. The video touches upon their histories, the evolution of their inclusivity policies (with Boy Scouts becoming more open to girls and LGBTQ+ members, while Girl Scouts maintain a girls-only policy), their fundraising methods (Girl Scout cookies being a significant success compared to Boy Scouts' popcorn sales), and their award structures (Girl Scouts' age-based levels and Gold Award versus Boy Scouts' skill-based ranks and Eagle Scout). Finally, it discusses the decline in membership for both organizations since the 1970s, attributing it to various factors including societal changes, scandals (particularly the Boy Scouts' sexual abuse lawsuits and bankruptcy), and financial struggles, leading to increased membership costs.
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