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So with this rule you can tell yourself
the following. Why is social media
successful?
Because it's a destructive technology
that removed the old unnatural
technology. The television
the television you're sitting down what
on oneway relationship with with you
know no discussion. People are
argumentative before that what did they
do? Use the existing business line you
have to introduce other thing. It's very
hard. People don't realize how hard it
is to switch business
because you have a business plan. Once
you have a business plan, you're married
to that business plan. You're ashamed of
changing course. People searching. I
mean, Columbus was going to India. He
discovered the Americas. They still were
in denial, right? The Phoenicians had
zero resources. They were the wealthiest
people in the Mediterranean for a
thousand years.
The whole idea is to be prepared to have
a system to not to have to worry about
black swans, not to have to predict the
environment, but be set up in a way to
benefit from the unpredictability of the
environment. And a lot of companies have
this attribute and a lot of systems have
this attribute. For 21 years, I was an
option trader and I picked up everything
I know from option trading.
And when you're an option trader, you
don't know a lot of things. Honestly,
your your knowledge is very limited. You
don't read the papers because it's
useless. You discover quickly it's
useless. You know, one thing
professionally, volatility.
And you know, one thing outside of that
is alcohol.
So when I stopped trading, you know, I
wanted to have a specialty. I could not
specialize in alcohol because I wasn't
good, you know, at it too much. Like my
friends could drink a lot more than I
did. So I focused on volatility, trying
to model volatility mathematically. So I
started trying to develop models of
volatility and it hit me that in the
process accidentally that everything all
right can be seen as how things respond
to volatility
everything. So the fragile for example
like this coffee cup made in China but
real you know the the highest quality
does not like volatility.
Everything fragile has this in common.
This commonality. In the process of
understanding fragility, we option
traders had a term for things that like
volatility. We called it, you know, long
gamma. And it was not in the literature.
It was not in the vocabulary. Because
when you ask people what's the opposite
of fragile,
they tell you solid, robust, someone
from New York or Brooklyn. All right?
They I mean they don't give you the
characterization I'm looking for because
the opposite of a package on which is
written you know please handle with
care. It should be written please
mishandle. Okay that's the exact
opposite. You see the opposite of
fragile is not solid. It's not robust.
It's not I hate that term resilient. It
is something that likes disorder and
volatility.
The Greeks had a concept of it. You know
about the fragile. You're sitting down
with a sword above your head waiting for
the sword to fall and you can do
absolutely nothing about it. Like the
coffee cup, one day it's going to break.
You can't do anything about it. Fragile
companies, fragile bridges one day will
collapse. You can't do anything about
it. Okay, that's a fragile. Okay, cannot
handle a certain amount of disorder,
unpredictability.
in the middle. The resilient
like Phoenix. You shoot it, it comes
back. Shoot it, doesn't degrade, doesn't
improve. Like people from New York
again. Okay.
And to the right you have hydra.
You cut one head. Guess what? Two grow
back. So really it feeds on attempt to
harm it. Okay. So there are a lot of
hydraike things in life. And let's look
at how they react to volatility to see
the hydra attribute. The fragile is like
a bank.
They make money. They make money. They
make money. They make money. And then
one day you got a phone call. All right?
They didn't make money. When they lose,
they lose a lot.
They lose more than they ever made
before. Hedge funds, a lot of them have
this attribute. Okay? Uh companies after
they become mature have this attribute.
They make steady income and then one day
you get a phone call, right? This is the
fragile
and uh
it doesn't like volatility. All the big
variations of downside the robust as I
said people from Brooklyn. Okay. No
upside but no downside. All right. And
then I have actually a character of Fat
Tony from Brooklyn and antifragile.
And then you'll see exactly what I mean
once you read about Fat Tony. Okay. And
then the anti-fragile most of the big
shocks are to the upside. Okay, think of
a venture capital P&L. Okay, long
volatility, long optionality, right? So
this is how it looks in time series
space.
They and let's look at it in a different
dimension.
It's a little complicated to explain,
but I've written about 200 technical
pages on it. I still try, you know, I'm
trying to figure out exactly. And
Duridge had a conversation and tell me
it takes a lifetime for that. Is that if
you like one of these, you like them
all. And if you hate one of these, you
hate them all. Okay? And this makes it
easy. If you like time, you like
volatility. If you don't like
volatility, you don't like time. Time
brings volatility.
But what they all have in common is that
they have more upside than downside when
they're antifragile. And the antifragile
likes them all up to a point of course.
And you have more downside than upside
when you're fragile.
And my body is fragile. It has one
attribute. It doesn't like earthquakes.
Okay? It doesn't like time. It doesn't
become more accidents. So this is
you know what I I call the disorder
brother. It's not a moving company. It's
a you know characterization.
And with this we can do quite a bit. And
I learned it from being an option
trader. If you don't like volatility,
the market goes down 1%.
Okay, you lose a million. The market
goes down 5%, you lose 20 million, not
five. You have an accelerated negative
P&L. And this is how we can measure,
you know, more downside than upside.
This is how we can measure this
asymmetry. This is how we can measure
really the degree of fragility in a
system. Now
you know as we say in America when life
gives you a lemon you make lemonade. So
you have two approaches in life.
If you read too much of the economist
the New York Time all these as junk all
right you have the idea that vfully is
bad. But in fact if you have the idea
hey we're going to have high winds what
do you do that they necessarily have to
go duck in your basement. Okay. With
spam, some movies, you know, uh candles,
maybe guns. No, you know, if you hear
you're going to have high winds, let's
try to make some money out of it. Okay.
So, hence you can have you can have
windmills, build windmills, try to make
money out of turmoil. My profession
incidentally for 21 years was trying to
benefit from turmoil. Okay, I mean it's
maybe not a very interesting profession
but but you can translate it into real
terms. Let's be set up in a way to
benefit from disorder bad events from
the bad from the you know attempts by
life to give you lemons.
So
but you say how look at your bone you
know we have all bones your bones
improve if you shock them. And actually,
not only that, but if you don't stress
your bones, guess what happened? You
lose in bone density. Actually, people
who go to gyms don't stress their bones
and they lose in bone density. The
oldfashioned way of carrying water jugs
on your head is still the best if you
want to have a good bone structure and
actually even regulates the hormonal
structure, even fertility.
So it's not just you know uh business
life it's your bone it's your body you
have there's a gym here I think okay now
let's look at the mechanism of
overcompensation
a lot of things not only benefit from
bad events
but need bad events because they
overcompensate by shooting higher just
like your bone gets stronger up to a
point of course if I put 500 lb on my
shoulder you know it' be okay my bones
would get stronger £5,000, you need
another speaker. All right. Okay.
Because All right. So, you know what
happens? It's the same thing with, you
know, and now I looked at history and
discovered one thing. I know a little
bit of the eastern Mediterranean
seabboard. And then you look at the uh
Phoenicians.
The Phoenicians had zero resources. They
were the wealthiest people in the
Mediterranean for a thousand years.
For a thousand years. Okay. They had
absolutely zero, nothing, nothing
nothing to speak of. It so happened that
during after the Bronze Age,
the island of Cyprus nearby
had copper. They had no copper. They had
no resources. So someone with his
cousins went to get some copper.
Guess what? When you go get copper from
Cyprus,
you need to build boats. No, you learn
to navigate. You learn to go to Cyprus.
So they got a little more copper and in
no time they became a maritime
network
of buying copper from Cyprus, buying
other things from the Criathos, buying
other things from other people and then
of course they became the wealthiest
nation on zero resources. Nothing. They
had absolutely nothing. The the
Venetians, same story. The modern
equivalent is Singapore. These guys have
nothing.
Look in reverse. Saudi Arabia exact
opposite. They have everything. And
guess what?
They're going nowhere. With all of that,
they're going nowhere. So here you see
that overcompensation is a mechanism by
which economies also work.
You see stressors are good. And here's
your industry post and pre.com of 2000.
Aha.
Before
2000,
everything was bad compared to what it
is today. Everything improved today from
that event. So really we humans are a
have a mechanism by which we
overcompensate
and we can only act by overcompensating.
Actually your bones are not going to get
strong by on their own.
So with this we realize that companies
not only need like volatility but they
need it they need certain dose not too
much not too little
which brings me to the concept of
optionality
again I started with telling you my
secret I was an option trader when I go
to literary festivals I don't tell them
because they're associated with finance
for them finance is a bad thing people
use you know to rip off people no It's
interesting for me mathematically
and also as a way of viewing things in
life.
The attribute of an option
more upside than downside. You pay
little, you get a lot.
And actually sometimes you pay nothing.
Okay? And an option likes volatility.
Why? Because I'd rather have a volatile
environment. We have a lot more upside
and a lot more downside. I'm not exposed
to the downside. I get more upside you
see and this is what we say called
convex.
So under uncertainty you have less to
lose. So you benefit from the positive
side of uncertainty and not the negative
side. The only problem is you got to pay
for it. Sometimes you don't have to pay
for it. So I look at the world with
positive and negative optionality.
Positiveity you have more upside than
downside. The other one you have more
downside than upside. You have a curve
like this. The best way to view it is
this way. Okay? You see? So, accelerated
profits,
let's look at it this way. In this
dimension,
this translates to this. If an event
happens,
GDP is down 1%. I lose a million. Okay?
GDP is up 1%. I make 3 million.
I am antifragile. A simple rule.
It's a reverse. I am fragile. Okay.
Simple. Okay.
So that symmetry explained your if the
market goes down 10% I lose 10 million.
The market is up 10% I make 100 million.
I am antifragile.
Conversely if the market goes down 10% I
lose 10 million. The market goes down
another 10% I lose 1 million. I'm also
antifragile.
You see
nonlinearity
shared by everything. The fragile has
this nonlinearity. My body if I fall 10
m I'm harmed more than 10 times. If I
fell 1 meter
I am fragile. Okay. And you can measure
fragility that way. Now optionality
means that you have the choice. You have
the option. Okay. No obligation. which
mean that you see different things in
the environment you can flip and sure
enough you've heard of Nokia
but had I asked you that question 15
years ago you would have said oh it's
some small company that makes what
boots for you know because they have a
very bad spring in Finland I don't know
if you've been to Finland in the spring
don't okay it's it's all mud right so
that was our business and then they
switched to making you know what you
know is commonly known as the cell
phones, the kind of thing that
grandmothers have and this, you know,
my, you know, my mother uses because she
doesn't want an iPhone. All right, but
they didn't catch on the second
optionality, but good enough. They made
enough money. Another company, Tiffany,
I don't know if you know Tiffany in
America, it's a big company that makes
luxury that sells luxury stuff. Mostly
if someone if you're or your some of
your friends get or your daughter
getting married, you have a list there.
But it all started with the following.
The fellow was selling stationary
and people were showing up and saying,
"Hey, you know, my daughter is getting
married. I want this doctor and Mrs.
Smith, whatever." Okay. So, what you
make $20? Thought about it. Say, "Does
your daughter like diamonds?" Say,
"Yeah." Okay. No, we have some. And it
all started that way. Use the existing
business line you have to introduce
other thing. It's very hard. People
don't realize how hard it is to switch
business
because you have a business plan. Once
you have a business plan, you're married
to that business plan. You're ashamed of
changing course. People searching. I
mean Columbus was going to India. He
discovered the Americas. They still were
in denial, right? That's not what
they're looking for. People are ashamed.
The boss say, "Hey, that's not what
we're in for." You're going to see the
story.
Boeing origin lumber company. They don't
say it, but if you investigate, you
realize the family was a lumber making
company getting a lot of orders for
airplanes. And the son liked to fly. And
sure enough, you know, became, you know,
said there's more money in these flying
things than lumber. And sure enough,
they abandoned lumber because there's no
more lumber in Boeing. Okay. So there
are businesses that are error loving.
A business that's error loving is a
business that has optionality
particularly with its own mistakes.
I don't know if you've heard of that
business. I'm sure you never heard of it
of uh something called Viagra. No. Okay.
So Viagra was a u it was not like the
intention by in a business plan to
improve the lives of 72y old men. That
was not the idea.
It was a what? What was Viagra?
Blood pressure medicine. But they made a
mistake. They mispredicted.
It had a side effect. Out of the 100,000
drugs we have in the market today, all
right, there are fewer than 200 that are
there for what they were made for.
The rest are there for the side effects.
Maskin you use today as a blood thinner,
it's a side effect. of his previous use
as a fever reducer
sorry of a painkiller
which was a side effect of a fever
reducer. All right. So the philosophical
stone is there are some businesses that
gain from randomness. We know exactly
what shape they have. It's not
randomness. It's not luck. It's they
have optionality where you can benefit
from luck or not. You see? So what I
call the philosopher stones.
So we have this illusion that things
grow with education top down techn
education is not we have this illusion
that mathematics leads to science leads
to technology leads to business. It's
rather the opposite.
You see tinkering
trial and error you make small error you
have upside is how things work. So
that's tinkering. So most of what we
know in a western world comes from
tinkering. Even though we may have a
theory for it,
the steam engine was invented by the
Greeks went nowhere.
It was rediscovered by ignorant people.
Ignorant I mean in the academic sense
who are tinkering
you see and actually you can figure out
here what I call Roger be antifragile
than smart that it's much better
to tinker
and not know anything. All you know if
this is better A is better than B to
keep it's called ratcheting up then have
a huge IQ
anytime you outperform the IQ with
tinkering you need a thousand IQ point
to match someone who's an aggressive
thinker so
now principle never miss an opportunity
never never never never they don't come
especially if you have optionality if
especially it cost you very little to
take
to experiment with it
comes the idea of business plan.
It's a prison. So a business plan should
not be a prison
or have a business plan or if you want
but you know try
to have exit things from it. The other
thing is optionality depends much more
on the contract that you have than
industry like real estate for example.
You know investors have a lot more
optionality
and namely Donald Trump. The upside you
keep the losses you give chemical bank.
All right actually bankrupted Manny
Hannie manufacturers handover
at the banks they have no upside. They
take all the risk
you know uh for a little 400 basis
point.
So and of course entrepreneurial success
is not the result of funding. Usually
funding is top down. Funding comes later
when people are already successful. Nor
is it when you look at the name of these
companies the result of education,
formal education. But the education you
get from talking to one another, you
know, while eating the
the kish that they had last night and
happy hour, that form of education works
a lot better than sitting down in a
classroom with a professor. The best
technology is the technology that
doesn't look like technology where they
hide something Steve Jobs understood or
Google where you don't have the clutter
or the cognitive load or the distraction
of having a lot of side avenues where
they do all the thing to simplify which
cost a lot. So that what I think is
their secret okay on that aspect in a
few minutes good technology is something
that destroys bad previous technology.
All right. Not something that brings
something new, but something that makes
the old technology disappear as a
technology in the background. So there
so sort of make you overcompensate
because and actually if I you know that
if I lowered my voice to the point of
being hardly audible,
you would actually get more of my
lecture
by overcompensating on your side. So
there was a mechanism of
overcompensation
tinkering all the reasons why I was
invited but this one he missed in his
explanation which is a central one. So
let me explain now close on that Lindy
effect
about technology. What is this from?
How old is this kitchen?
2,000 year old. Okay. So, let me give
you the rule.
I was asked
I was asked by the economist
years ago after the black swan to
predict the future.
So they wrote to me and said, "Can you
give me a list,
you know, of No, no, actually they wrote
to me saying, we have President Obama,
Prime Minister Cameron, all these people
writing about the future. Can you give
me a list of what's wrong with their
forecast because we can't really, you
say you can't forecast the future?" Sure
enough, I didn't wait to get all their
stuff. Within 20 minutes, I wrote him a
letter very quickly saying, "This is
what's going to happen." They said what
are you the author of black swan or some
impostor or were you lying before you're
you're lying now or vice versa said no
no it's very easy to predict said how
said okay you take the present as
baseline
and 20 years from now you remove
anything that came last 20 years
completely counterintuitive yeah it's
called the Lindy effect after a
restaurant in Broadway and the way
restaurant near Broadway very bad
cheesecake by the way don't go But it's
called the Lindy law where actors would
would would discover the rule. You take
a Broadway show if it's under one year
old it won't make a year a two year
two years to go. So life expectancy of
technology increases with time. Okay.
But the edge is of course technologies
that are thousand years old 2,000 years
old. So it's very very counterintuitive
law that what is new doesn't have much
chance again because 99.9% of
technologies fail replaced by newer
technologies but the old is not replaced
by newer technologies it means it's
resilient to that kind of thing so you
got to learn from the old so my letter
said okay I'm instead of predicting the
future by taking the present as baseline
and adding all these kind of fancy stuff
to the present I take the present as
baseline
Everything that's 20 years old
or younger, remove it from the future.
And effectively the technique works. It
is very predictive. And again, people
told me, well, hey, you know what? At
the time people still use desktops.
How many people use desktop now? The
only reason you have a desktop is to
train employees to make sure they're in
the office because the laptop they're
just the same. Even the laptop being
replaced by tablets. And this rule is
invariant to how you define technology.
Tablet. Uhhuh.
How old is a tablet? Depends how you
look at it.
It can be 4,000 years old as a tablet,
but the modern tablet is few years old.
Which mean that the tablet as a concept
will be there 4,000 years from now,
right? Or at least you know 20 years
from now and the tablet as modern
technologies is going to disappear
replaced by some other technology.
The definition is invariant to the way
you define the technology. If you say
car, if it's box on wheel, 5,000 years,
if it's red convertible, 52 years or
six, whatever. You see the idea? So with
this rule you can tell yourself the
following. Why is social media
successful?
Because it's a destructive technology
that removed the old unnatural
technology. The television
the television you're sitting down what
on oneway relationship with with you
know no discussion. People are
argumentative before that. What did they
do in Vienna? They went to cafes in the
evening. They aggregate you know they go
to the agora. So social media allows
people to communicate in a two-way
relationship. This is why it's
successful, you see, because it's
destroying older technology, you see. So
this is with this I mean we can forecast
technologies based on a rule that if you
want to be successful in technology,
shoot for the old,
okay, and make it look nontechnological.
And that's basically one of the the
reasons, okay? So let me close and wrap
up. Where's the sign that says stop? I
like the stop sign. Always stop on a
stop sign. So let me wrap up in this
thing and in the 10 seconds that I have
left. The so the whole idea here is that
in a world with a lot of uncertainty,
there exists a very rational and
structured way to accept ignorance and
go about it by loving if you're set up
in the right way. The more uncertainty
in the environment, the richer you're
going to get and the more successful,
the happiest you're going to get. But it
requires a rigorous approach to
tinkering. Never miss an option and make
sure you always have in your business
positive optionality.
If you have that,
you'll succeed for a long time. If you
don't have it, sorry to say, but you're
fragile and you won't make it. Thank you
for listening to me.
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The video discusses the concept of antifragility, which is the ability of a system to benefit from volatility and disorder, as opposed to being fragile (harmed by them) or robust (unaffected by them). The speaker, drawing from their experience as an option trader, introduces a framework to understand how things react to volatility, categorizing them as fragile, robust, or antifragile. Antifragile systems, like options, have more upside than downside and thrive in uncertain environments. The video explores how this concept applies to various domains, including business, biology, and technology, highlighting the importance of "optionality" and "tinkering" as key elements for antifragility. It suggests that rather than trying to predict the future, one should aim to build systems that benefit from unpredictability. The Lindy effect, which states that the life expectancy of non-perishable things increases with time, is also discussed as a way to forecast technology's longevity.
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