This boy and girl are going to be well

equipped when the time comes to take

their places as worthy members of adult

society.

Aloha y'all. This is Daniel Eisman, the

host of the Breaking Normal podcast,

where my guests are all invited based on

the frequency of synchronicity. All done

in person and all trailblazers and the

breaking of all things normal. All

right, we're back. Breaking normal

podcast episode 200 something. And the

last uh I would say 10 episodes, it

seems about seven of them were

definitely breaking normal individuals

in the health field. And it looks like

we're continuing that theme today and

continuing the theme of Yavell

introducing me to awesome people. Yavell

here from Let's Do Podcast. Um we were

hanging out at the creek about a week

ago or two. I mean, I hang out there

every day, but all three of us were at

the creek about two weeks ago, and I saw

this lovely lady jumping off the awesome

rock in Boulder Creek with my friend

Jesse Gold. And then I saw her in the

sauna, Ember and Ice. And if you've been

following the show, we've had those guys

on here, too. And it turns out, you

know, Vel introduces me to her and

encourages us to do a show together. And

I I think we have many mutual friends,

paths, ideas. So I'm excited to jump in

here with you, Dr. Christine Smith.

>> Absolutely. Thank you so much for having

me.

>> Um, do you do many podcasts? Have you

been on podcast? Do you have a podcast?

>> I have been on a number of podcasts. I

have started mine kind of organically.

It was it more just took off on like my

Instagram channel. So, I do a lot of

lives and then I'll post those over to

YouTube and it's been on my to-do list

to start like an official podcast, but

that kind of blew up out of nowhere. So,

I've just been working with that for

now. But, I I just love getting to talk

to people of like minds who talk about

ideas and who believe that people are

intelligent enough to integrate those

things into their lives rather than

always doing everything for people. So,

I think teaching is paramount.

Well, I think this is going to be a fun

one and I'm very aligned with everything

what you said. Um, I remember right off

the bat we were talking about Austin and

Boulder.

>> Um, and I because I've lived in San

Diego, Austin and Boulder. Those are

like three of the places I've live and

particularly Lucadia, North County San

Diego and Cenas. And um, I that's an

amaz I get that question an amazing

amount of time like where should I move

Austin or Boulder? Where do you live and

how would you explore that question?

>> There seems to be a hugely synergistic

relationship between the two. I feel

like it's the energy of them where both

of them have a lot of people that are

driving forward and who are working to

elevate their levels of consciousness,

aren't afraid of shadow work and love

entrepreneurship.

And I think between all those that's

kind of the

vibe that they share. But Austin

definitely has a lot of energy to it in

a way where people are willing to go

deep and have like a a loyalty which is

really beautiful. And then Boulder is

kind of like this grounded yet high

altitude type of energy where people are

doing the same things but sometimes

they're a little bit more

it's hard to describe outside of kind of

like a elemental thing and still capture

everything but it's just like more of

like an ether element or like an air

element. There's like a spaciousness to

the thinking and to the relationships

and things like that. And so I think

between those a lot of similar energies

run between them. I live here in

Colorado kind of between Denver and

Boulder because I also have a lot of

communities in Denver that I love. And

then I visit Austin often and have

friends that I'm going to Burning Man

with that are from there. And so it's uh

for me just kind of cohesive communities

and it's like an hour and a half flight

so I just fly between the two.

>> Yeah. Yeah. I like I love them both and

I love the water scene at both towns.

>> True. I do love the weather in Colorado

though. I am partial to that. I Oh, if I

was going to start getting judgmental, I

think the weather's better in Boulder.

>> Yeah,

>> we get we can get all four seasons any

day of the year.

>> Also true.

>> And we also get strong very like four

very strong seasons.

>> In Colorado, if you don't like the

weather, wait 10 minutes. It's what we

say.

>> Yep. Yep. Now, you mentioned earlier

about something blowing up. Are you

saying your social media or your the

interviews? Um,

>> sure.

>> What What is Why do you think that's

happening? because that's a lot of

people's ambition to like blow up their

social media.

>> True. Um, it happened by accident, which

I think is actually a good way to start

and, uh, it's because it was coming from

a really genuine place without trying to

sell people stuff. And I've gotten

comments from people online of like,

this is why I hang out here. And I, you

know, I still direct people to things

and have my CTAs and all the other stuff

that you're supposed to do on social

media now, but I do find it brings like

a different type of audience versus when

I started like the real that went viral

was me like talking about something I

learned at work that I thought was cool

while I was driving home in the dark in

the car and that hit like four million

views. And so that was talking about

insulin degrading enzyme, dementia,

minerals, and the physiology between

them. And I think people were just

really curious to learn the actual

physiological relationship of how those

things are tied together because nobody

talks to them about it. They just talk

to them about the diagnosis and they

talk to them about, you know, kind of

ways to prevent it as like lifestyle

stuff, but they never teach them what's

happening or like when to reach for a

certain thing. And so that's a lot of

what my practice is about and what I

teach people is just helping them to

understand how to use things at home

like an apothecary and realizing that

like one protocol or one drug usually is

not the answer for anybody. It's like it

may be for a time or an herbal formula

might help for a time, but it may not be

the thing that you need all the time and

you might need to take breaks from stuff

and you might need to slow down and let

your body catch up and these kinds of

concepts. So, that's what I talk about

on the channel and I think it's just

finally people feeling seen and held in

a way where they can be independent and

considered intelligent and smart enough

to learn these things. I think a lot of

doctors kind of gatekeep health and it's

really weird and it's kind of our it's

the model from our parents and

grandparents age and it's not working

anymore and people are smart and we

don't health shouldn't be a hierarchy

like you should never give your health

away for someone else to manage like we

never should have done that in the first

place it's now considered totally normal

and when you think about what you've

done it's a very weird thing so if you

can realize that it's your

responsibility to understand how your

body works just like it's your

responsibility to get your are

maintained when it breaks down. Then all

of a sudden we have this sustainable

model of health and it's a place where

people are told that they're

intelligent. They're told that they're

designed to heal. They're told that

there's community supporting them and

there's other people commenting on it

that are going through the same things.

And it's actual solutions by

understanding physiology instead of just

like the fear-mongering that happens

online which is like here's the scary

thing and I'm not going to give you any

answers until you do this and pay this

and put your email here. instead of just

being like, "Did you know this about

your genetics? And did you know that if

you do this one thing, it'll help it?

>> Have a good day."

>> And so that's what the channel started

as and then it's just kind of blown up

into all these other functional medicine

practitioners and integrative

practitioners really talking about

what's working and what's not working.

And then it's this way that I collect

all of these highlevel professionals in

holistic health across the board, across

degrees and certifications um that

people can then know exist and know to

reach out to for a specific issue and

know where to find them. Because I think

that's a lot of what's going on right

now is people know that what they're

doing isn't working, but they don't know

where to turn. And then a lot of the

people that market the best aren't

always the best practitioners.

>> That's Well, thank you for breaking

normal.

>> Sure.

>> Yeah, you're definitely doing it. And

thank you for that explanation. Let me

go back to that. Where did you post that

video that went viral first?

>> That was on Instagram.

>> And can what was that topic? Can you

explain?

>> Uh the relationship between insulin

degrading enzyme and dementia.

>> So can you how long was that video you

made?

>> 60 seconds.

>> Can you tell us and do this again

because I'm curious.

>> Um yes. So

basically a couple years ago there's an

article that came out that um described

this whole process but it looks at how

insulin degrading enzyme runs and it

runs on zinc and you also need zinc for

basically the whole insulin process and

you need it to run the enzyme that also

breaks down insulin. So you need zinc to

make insulin and you need it to break

down insulin. So then we start looking

down the road at brain health. And you

think about all these people that uh eat

late at night and eat a bunch of carbs

and then they go to bed and then they

have high blood sugar for the entire

night. And so that is essentially giving

yourself functional diabetes while you

sleep because you can't pee out that

blood sugar. That's just like one

example. Or if people are just

consistently having high blood sugar

from the way that they're eating,

they're consistently using up their zinc

to make high levels of insulin. And then

when you need to break down the insulin

so that your cells can survive, you use

insulin degrading enzyme to do that. Now

one of the other things about insulin

degrading enzyme is another job of it is

to break down things like tow tangles in

the brain.

>> Towel tangles. What are I don't know if

I even have heard that term before.

>> There's a variety of different

we'll just call them tangles neuroiary

tangles that can happen in the brain.

And this is essentially what they're

theorizing is a component of dementia.

They used to say it was the cause of

dementia. It's really now more just like

the builtup trash that has happened in

the brain and then dementia is a

interrelated element of all of this.

>> But basically

>> if you have high levels of insulin,

>> you keep the enzyme that is responsible

for keeping your brain clean too busy to

clean your brain. And you use up all the

resources that it needs to run by having

blood sugar that's too high and having

to produce more insulin.

Wow. And you're saying part of the issue

is people eating too many crappy carbs

at night.

>> That was just an example. It's just like

ways that you can keep your blood sugar

high in a not productive way. And if I

mean, if you think about someone who

they can live a pretty good lifestyle,

but then if they sit there and they carb

pound and sugar pound late at night and

then go to bed, they're basically giving

themselves high blood sugar and

functional diabetes while they sleep

every night for 50 years. And then they

wonder why they have cognitive issues.

Basically just soaked your brain in

something that rusts it.

>> Okay. On that note, are you saying that

zinc is a good micronutrient to consume

in its bioavailable food form?

>> Yes, it is a Goldilocks nutrient. Um, so

you need to have it in the right zone

and if you overdo zinc, you can mess up

your copper, which a lot of people don't

realize. There's a relationship there.

So just making sure that you do it in

right amounts.

>> Okay. Okay. So now that bring now when

you can someone overdo zinc and copper

through food

>> through food. Pretty tough.

>> Yeah. These are more like when people

are taking manufactured vitamins with

zinc or copper. Correct.

>> Well and considering that because of our

agricultural practices, most of our food

doesn't even have normal levels of zinc

anymore like it did in our grandparents

day. Pretty hard to overdo it from food.

But if you're supplementing a lot and

you're taking a bunch of different kinds

that maybe naturally wouldn't be found

together or something, then that can be

because there's like seven different

kinds of zinc. Um, and that's just one

example. This goes for like any vitamin,

right? You can always overdo stuff. And

this is a lot of the time when people

come into the clinic, especially after

they've been through a bunch of

functional medicine practitioners. I

spend a lot of time taking them off of

things and really focusing on lifestyle.

>> Well, that's so interesting because I

did bring I brought a few gifts for you

and this is one of them I brought for

you. And I'm actually pretty hungry

right now.

>> And this is a good opportunity for you

to know and other people to know how I

use this. I like to use liver every

morning first thing on an empty stomach.

And I feel like I get nourished without

then and it like prevents me craving

crappier calories.

>> True. It does. Yeah.

>> And I have more energy and not weighed

down from eating a breakfast for

instance. But um one of my

understandings because we're just freeze

drying the liver raw is that I my

understanding is raw liver has some of

the most zinc bioavailable out of any

food. There's like oysters, testicles,

liver. Organ meats are by far high in

minerals and higher than a lot of

things. So, yes, I would agree with

that.

>> I just stole a dose from you, but you

can have the rest. Do you do you take Do

you eat liver? Like, would you

>> I do. I'll take these to Burning Man.

Thank you.

>> Okay, great. Yeah, that especially if

you get hungry and you're not wanting to

sit down and have a meal.

>> And I'm not going to choke on these like

the previous guests. I'm going to put a

little liquid in my mouth first.

>> Smart.

But yeah, iron, bioavailable hem iron.

>> Yeah,

>> the B vitamins, zinc, copper.

>> Yep,

>> I love taking these.

>> Oh, I love liver supplements. They're

great. I will find that every once in a

while like like organ meat supplements

for highly sensitive people after

they've been through like a mold

exposure or something. Sometimes it's

too much for their system. Um, so like

I'll have people space them out

sometimes. So it's really just listening

to your body and seeing how you respond.

And like for you, clearly you respond

really well to it. And um yeah, I just

that if I can

if I can have everybody who's listening

take something away from this, it would

just be the reminder

that the secret sauce is just learning

how to listen to your body again. We've

known how to do this for millennia.

Everyone just forgot because we handed

it off to somebody else. But if you can

just listen to your body and then try

stuff and then realize when it's not

working for you or when it is working

for you, that is the key to health.

>> Thank you. Um, I had another question

about something I just lost. It slipped.

>> Where do they go? Where does the thought

go when it slips? What are thoughts? My

friend asked me that last night. What

are thoughts?

>> Okay, I actually probably have a good

answer to this. Let me think about that

for a second.

>> I know. It's like a It's like a question

my daughter would ask me and these are

sometimes the biggest questions.

>> Okay. Like like how woo can I get on

your podcast?

>> As much as you want.

>> Okay, great.

So my background was actually research.

I have a very left-sided brain. Um I got

into science because I wanted to have

very clear data and answers on

everything. And I started studying

biology. Once you study biology to

understand it, you have to understand

chemistry. To understand that, you have

to understand physics. To understand

physics, you have to understand quantum

physics. Once you start understanding

quantum physics, you realize that

everything is energy and nothing is

separate. And then when you realize that

they can measure your brain waves with a

magnet that doesn't touch your head, you

realize that your thoughts are not in

your head

and they're part of this greater field

that we are all connected by. And

they're now trying to understand how we

actually store memories, which is a

developing process. Some of it is

protein based and some of it is this

theory that we basically store our

thoughts in the cloud.

So basically, you're accessing your own

Wi-Fi field. And this is why there is a

difference of like meeting somebody in

person versus doing something over Zoom.

Our bio fields are interacting right

now. There are low-level frequencies

that our brains interact on. So having

that bofield, you realize that like you

have your own bofield. You are your own

Wi-Fi. You emit your own Wi-Fi. And so

then thoughts can be the process of some

of that Wi-Fi coming in mostly directed

as life force and energy. Which is why

like how you practice your energy and

how you maintain your energy can really

direct how your thoughts come out in

your reality because it's that life

force that then drives a chemical change

in the brain that then drives forth

whatever is going to come out as like a

conscious thought or a verbal thought or

anything like that. But when you realize

that it's the energy that comes first,

this is why stuff like meditation could

lead to manifestation because you have

to correct that frequency signal and

then it'll actually correct your

physiology. And I literally went through

my own personal experience of this

because at one point I I talked to

people a lot about all load and it's

this concept of when your body becomes

overwhelmed. I just had so many things

going on in my life on like a physical

level, a chemical level, and a mental

level. My body got overwhelmed. My

immune system was starting to act in

autoimmune type ways. Um, I basically

became allergic to all food. This is how

I know sensitivity to supplements really

well. I was being made sicker by being

put on supplements and um, medications

and my body was just rejecting all of

it. And so I finally got to this point

where I was at a loss and the only thing

I had left to do was listen to my body

and my body was like, I want you to sit

here and drink water and eat these three

foods and meditate and do nothing else.

So that's basically what I did. But in

that process, simply from meditation,

all my symptoms started to go away.

>> What were those three foods?

>> It was not the magic of the foods. It

was what my body was willing to

tolerate. It was like sweet potato, dark

chocolate of anything. Yeah, we we were

okay with dark chocolate. It is cacao is

an amazing antioxidant and stuff. And uh

and then I just do I'd rotate like meats

and greens, but I definitely did better

with meats at that time. I did not

tolerate greens well. I did not tolerate

detox foods. Well, um all the things

that you would think is a healthy diet

and what you need to do when you're sick

depends on what kind of sick you are.

So, if you are metabolic cardioabolic

sick because your blood sugar sucks,

then yeah, that's probably the right

diet. If your gut is completely

destroyed and your liver is not

functioning, then you probably need more

carnivore.

>> And so, it just depends on what's

happening.

>> And you said we were okay with these

three foods,

>> me and my body.

>> Okay. because we developed a whole new

relationship out of this experience. And

um another thing that came out of it was

I ended up studying a lot of

subconscious work um because when yeah

when you get to the end of your rope you

just start looking at everything and I

am now trained in about four different

subconscious modalities and these are

things like NLP and say Kay and it's

like kind of like guided meditation or

like light hypnosis to help people

change their subconscious patterns. Um,

but it's it's about like helping them

get into a bit of a meditative state.

So, it's not full-on hypnosis like

people would think of where it's like

you're unaware of the situation. Um,

it's getting people into just like an

alpha brain wave state so that they're

in the programming state and they can

program themselves because it's more

about asking them questions and then

they do all the work. Um, but in that

work, I started doing parts work and

parts work is incredible in so many

ways. Um, there's a lot of different

modalities that do it in different ways.

Um, but once you study enough of them,

you realize they all work very

similarly. And parts work is about

making a relationship with these

internal parts of yourselves that are in

conflict and talking to them like you

talk to a best friend. So, it's almost

like

in a safe way internally creating a

slight split personality in yourself so

that you can talk to that like younger

side of you that's throwing a temper

tantrum and be like, "What do you need

right now? Like, what are you asking

for? Like, why are you fighting this so

hard?" And you literally have this

internal conversation with these parts.

So, I started talking to my body very

different differently in this process.

Like, that whole cascade was probably a

long time coming with grad school and

stuff, which you'd be surprised how many

people go through grad school or med

school and come out with an autoimmune

thing because you're basically going

through like a crazy environment that

you're just permanently stuck in

sympathetic fight orflight. and um but

started having these conversations with

my body where all of that started with

an injury and I used to call it my bad

knee and then I started calling it my

knee that needs more love.

>> Completely changed the relationship. I'm

no longer pissed at my body. I'm no

longer angry. I'm no longer resentful

and just like seething which I think so

many people are actually stuck in that

place in so many ways and they just push

it to the back of their mind and ignore

it and then wonder why they have

autoimmune popup. But I was frustrated

with my body when I got to this point

where I was like, "What do you need?" I

thought about all the different stuff my

knee and I have done together. I have

put it through hell and back. It's done

a great job. And and then it got a

little damaged and then it ended up

healing without the surgery that 10

different doctors told me I had to have.

Your body is designed to heal. You can

regrow things like cartilage and bone.

>> Like there's so many things where we

just said like this is impossible, but

it's not true. And it really is about

how you talk to your body. If you tell

your body, we're healing. We're getting

better. We have a food sensitivity. I

never said I had a food allergy. I said,

I have a food sensitivity that flares

when I overdo it. And this was the

relationship my body and I had with this

stuff. And so I will now ask it

questions like a third person. So if I'm

going to eat something, I'll say, "Body,

can we handle this today?" And it'll be

like, "No, not today." I'll be like,

"Okay, got it."

>> And so you start to make this

relationship with it. So yes, I say we.

>> Have you ever met Paul Czech by chance?

He he's y'all would vibe he that was his

thing. He would like walk around the

grocery store like muscle testing

because like what

>> also muscle test. Yes. It muscle test

the key to muscle testing is the quality

of your question. So when you start

studying something like muscle testing

it expands your vocabulary tenfold.

>> Well I do want to affirm your ability to

um communicate

like I had this do you know Dr. Scott

Shure by any chance?

>> That name sounds

>> he has this company called Troscriptions

and he sells Methylene Blue.

>> Okay. Oh, yes. Yep. Yep.

>> Um and I I have another guy that's quite

a well he communicates very amazingly

and he was telling me how people that

use methylene blue can communicate

faster and clearer. And

when Scott was on the show I was like I

usually listen to podcasts at like twice

the speed. I think I'm gonna have to

listen this one regular speed and that

goes for you as well.

>> Oh, thank you.

>> You are really communicating sharply and

quickly.

>> Thank you. It's been a practice to

develop.

>> Yeah. And and then this has a lot to do

with the muscle testing. You think this?

I mean,

the ability to

speak has definitely just been something

that's developed over time of practicing

speaking to people and trying to slow

myself down and use less filler words

and all those things that us humans do.

Um, but muscle testing and more just

like between that and subconscious work,

it changes your ability to ask

questions. Like I was working with a gal

the other day and she muscle tests

herself for stuff and she she tested

herself on a supplement and it tested

strong and I tested her which it's

harder to muscle test yourself because

you can it depends on what your thoughts

are. I muscle tested her and it came up

as weak and so I was like well change

your question and her question was is

this a good ad to my protocol and it was

yes. That was her body's answer and then

the next question was do I want this

today and her body said no.

>> Okay. So, it's like it teaches you these

nuances of like not just like is this

good, but is this good today?

Can we handle this today? Is this in our

highest good today? Um, like what are

what are you actually after? Right. Just

like the difference between like a

crappy AI prompt and a really good AI.

>> I was thinking the same connection.

>> Yep. That's the same thing. You're just

asking the AI of the universe that

existed before any of this.

>> Yeah. I I think a lot of people are

shocked by how I use AI because of how

much I prompt it.

>> No, you got those long prompts are key.

If you want good output, you output is

equivalent to input in every area of

life.

>> Like you

you're reminding me I want to also gift

you this book and I have a few like

sentiments.

>> Thank you. in the book like one's that

like one is the questions are the

answers

>> and then also that you get I think at

the beginning of one of the chapters

there's you get what you give why is it

you get what you give yeah you get what

you give something along those lines

>> it's an energetic exchange and I guess

>> well how did you phrase it say that

>> I said uh input equals output and for

the most part like you can always like

>> be like well I designed this business

thing and the output is much greater

than the input So sure, but you still

had to put effort in energetically and I

would say the energetic effort usually

matches the output.

>> Somehow this conversation is echoing a

lot of the conversation I had last night

that definitely left me more questions

than answers. And now I'm going to ask

you one of the questions that left me

with more and especially because you're

distinguishing um you and your body

because some people believe they are

their body.

>> Yeah, they do. They also believe they're

their mind.

Do you what do you believe you are? Or

do you believe you're Yeah, let me start

there. What do you believe you are?

>> I believe that I'm humble enough to say

I don't know.

And I will ultimately

I like to think that we are energetic

beings having a human experience. They

have even done measurements of when

people die their mass actually changes.

So like something leaves

>> 28 grams. Yeah, it's like it's like a

point. It's like a decimal. Yeah,

>> I think 28 was the number. Yeah. And um

>> so

this is a good way to describe it. Okay,

so there's this image that I really like

and I think it describes this whole

concept so simply and it's this giant

and he's like sitting crouched down

under the surface of the earth. He has

one hand and he's sticking his fingers

up through the surface of the earth and

then on his hand you see all these

fingers with little faces drawn on them

and they're all talking to each other

and then there's an arrow that points to

it and in parenthesis or in like

quotation marks it says you.

So really we are just extensions of the

same consciousness having a conversation

with each other to experience each other

but we come from the same entity and

that is like foundational quantum

physics stuff. And I remember when I was

studying all that, especially my science

brain. I was like, "This is all

conflicting. This doesn't work. I'm so

frustrated." And I had a mentor. He'd

been in practice for 52 years. And I was

talking to him about how quantum physics

and Newtonian physics battle each other.

And like, how could these possibly

coexist? And he just said, "Oh, well,

quantum physics fits Newtonian physics

under a larger model. So Newtonian

physics is quantum physics. It's just

quantum physics isn't Newtonian

physics." And I was like, "Oh,

completely makes sense." And so as soon

as he did that, they stopped having this

battle. And then you just kind of like

realize like we are all this

consciousness having an experience

together. I do think that there is like

the individual experience and like we

were saying like we all have our own

bofield our own experience of that but

essentially just this energetic

extension who's been gifted a meat

vehicle that I'm responsible for taking

care of not your doctor

>> and um that is the vehicle that you have

to experience this life with. And life

is short. Like I'm an evolutionary

biologist at heart and an

anthropologist. So like I have looked at

the history of the world since it began,

you know, four and a half million years

ago. And you realize this was this was

the best

visual description that a teacher ever

gave me for this. And the reason I'm

bringing it up is to remind people like

just enjoy your life. Like life is

short. And he came out, he was my

evolution teacher, and he had four and a

half rolls of toilet paper and said,

"This represents the history of the

earth." Four and a half billion years.

And then he pulled off like a sheet of

one of them, cut out a tenth of it, and

held it up with tweezers and said, "This

is the history of mankind."

>> Yep. So when you get that perspective,

you realize that just enjoy your life,

try to be a good person, be kind to

people, do good things in the world, but

all the like super insane stuff that

people spend a lot of time stressing out

about that they really don't have

control over

whether you were here or not, that

stuff's going to be happening. So it's

just like and it's going to continue to

happen even after we die. So like try to

do the best that you can in your

lifetime.

find what your gift is and give that

back to the world and then just like

don't stress so much.

Like stress is the number one health

issue I see coming into the office and

it perpetuates every single other health

issue including autoimmunity.

And so how does someone not get stressed

out about that to not stress because

>> choice? You choose how you'd like to

react to things that are there. And it's

like I'm not necessarily supposed to

know what's happening across oceans. Of

course, I don't want anything bad to

happen to anybody's grandma. And at the

same time, I'm a biologist and it's just

like part of living beings and like part

of what happens and it happens in every

ecosystem. We have a particularly

special way of going about it as humans

that is particularly conscious and

that's annoying but I had actually okay

well sure yeah vulnerable moment. So I

had this

kind of internal crisis over the last

couple years when everything was

changing really dramatically and

particularly like the last five years

and especially as like an educator and

someone who studies health and wants to

teach people how to be empowered. That

was one of the most disempowering times

of my entire life, being silenced and

threatened as a doctor and not able to

even talk about our own experiences.

Like I had a friend who got fined out

the wazoo for talking about his own

experience

>> and um I've had friends lose licenses

because of it. And I don't think it's

something that people have talked about

enough um mostly because we're afraid

to. And you know, if you want to cut

this part out, you can. But like it's,

uh,

>> yeah, I think during that time,

um, it just made me want to teach people

more and remind people

of what they're capable of. But in that

time, I had to ask myself, I was like,

okay, well, what's my role? What's my

role in all this? Like, I'm not a

lawmaker. I'm not a developer of a

product. I'm not um all of these other

things. what am I like? How can I play

my role? I was like, well, I'm a

teacher. I teach people how their bodies

work. I'll do that. And that is when my

channel took off

>> is I just started teaching people how

their bodies work so they can make their

own decisions because no, there was no

teaching going on during that time. Just

a lot of fear. And I actually literally

during that time as all that was going

on, I happened to be studying an

advanced practice module in immunity for

a functional medicine institution. And

it was just really interesting to watch

what was called being what was called

science and what is science especially

with a research background like I know

how to find bad research. And so it's

just an interesting realization during

that time of where should I put my focus

because I could have gotten pulled down

a lot of dark rabbit holes and I did and

um and I started to get to a place where

I was feeling kind of hopeless. Uh which

isn't good for anybody. And

and then I realized I just didn't want

to live that way. Even if the world blew

up tomorrow, I don't want to live that

way. I don't want my mind to be there. I

don't want my heart to be there. And so

I chose the energy that I wanted to have

in my life. And I chose what I could

affect and what I couldn't affect. And

for the things that I couldn't affect, I

am aware of them. But I choose to not

emotionally engage with them. And I

choose to invest my emotional

currency of which we have limited

amounts in the stuff that matters that I

can't affect.

>> All right. Here's another big question.

And thank you for all that. I can I can

relate to a lot of that. And I think I

understand a lot of what you're alluding

to.

Um my the other question we were

contemplating last night for this idea

of embodying this meat suit. Do you

believe you were

here before the meat suit was formed

or after

>> the conception?

I believe that neither you or I or

anybody listening ever didn't exist.

I believe that we are all recycled

energy and that when we are coming into

conception, the universe rearranges that

energy into our particular format. But

that energy is not new.

>> And do you think it was a choice?

depends on how like past life uh

um akashic records you want to go but

like

I will be humble enough again to say I

don't know but we can speculate and I

find the I find the subconscious work

fascinating because I'll do like past

life regressions and stuff sometimes uh

for like deeper appointments with people

totally have memories fascinating and

like even ones that are eerily accurate

on things. And so like who am I to say

that answer? I don't know. Um,

okay. This is this is my take for this

piece right here. So,

a lot of people

will look at someone who has a lot of

good things in their life happen and

they'll be like, "Oh, they're just so

lucky."

And that person who is the quoteunquote

lucky one just holds this like positive

field all the time and they just assume

their life is going to work out and they

just assume that good things are going

to happen. They assume that people are

good people. Even when they get jaded

they go back to assuming that and they

just know

because they're like this is the belief

that I want to have. I just know it'll

work out. It didn't work out like 17

times along the way for that person just

like everybody else. But that person has

the belief that it will work out. So

they're less miserable about it than

somebody who's focusing on their 17

failures.

So whether or not that person is

actually lucky, it's still working out

for them. So why don't you mimic their

behavior?

And so I think a lot of people think

that it's like this, oh, like this was

my life timeline and this was my choice

and I had to live through these traumas

and blah blah blah and it doesn't work

out for me and this person's lucky and

we have separate journeys. Sure.

How do you want to be? How do you want

to live? What perspective do you want to

have? That is what the subconscious work

is about. And I can't like the majority

of the time that I spend with people

doing that work is figuring out what

they even want because most people don't

know. They haven't thought about it.

They've thought about it for material

goods, but that's it.

>> I I recently saw like a short an

Instagram short with Bruce Lipton.

>> Yeah. Yeah. And he was the way I

remember it was that so many people like

so many people cannot write down what

they want.

>> Do you know I've worked with like

thousands of people and I asked them to

write down what they want and they can't

do it. And that's why they do why why

they're getting what they don't want.

>> Yes.

>> They can't even write it down.

>> And then the world and their mind can't

work to make it happen because there's

no Yeah. You need a map. The universe

needs to know what to build. It needs a

blueprint.

So, yeah, if you can just stay in that

happier place, it might make you luckier

or it might just make you assume

everything's going to work out and

you'll get the same result either way.

>> Yeah, we we probably resonate a lot. So,

I appreciate you once again, you know,

when people tell me good luck. I I I

have actually told many people like I I

I actually don't believe in I think I

get your intention, but I don't believe

in luck the same way you do. And but

thank you and thank you and it's it

reminds me too of why I think like poker

I used to play a good bit of poker in

college and how it's such a good

metaphor for life because the really

good poker players what happens how

people really get

robbed in poker is they can't take a bad

beat. They go on tilt. They do

everything right. They and they lose

they lose it all and then they'll just

start losing. They'll get more and lose

more. Get more and lose more because

they're on tilt and they are so caught

up messed up their energy

>> in that bad beat.

>> And the guys that are or girls that are

good at it, they can have that bad beat

and they play the next hand like it's

the first hand they've ever played.

>> I think that's everybody in life.

>> And entrepreneurs, parents, teachers,

like anybody that applies.

>> And the good and what happens a lot

because he knows there's like 10 people

waiting for the guy on tilt and they'll

just take everything from that. Like

there's a I I don't know if you've ever

watched Rounders by any chance,

>> but it's a great movie with um Oh, who's

the guy from Goodwill Hunting? Matt

Damon. Oh, yeah.

>> And Edward Norton.

>> Okay, I bet that's good.

>> And there was a great uh little line in

there. I remember when they were talking

about on a poker table like if you don't

know who the sucker is, then you're it.

And everyone's just waiting for that

sucker to go on tilt basically.

>> Well, okay. So, this I feel like you

like this part. So, this brings my

thinking to a thing that we mentioned

earlier that I think a lot of people are

afraid of, which is shadow work. And

that's a lot of what this work is is

figuring out how to not let stuff knock

you out. And that shadow work is

figuring out why stuff knocks you out.

And it's usually an ego thing. And it's

usually from like childhood in some way.

And it's usually like feeling not good

enough. And everybody deals with that.

So don't feel ashamed about it and avoid

it because you feel ashamed because then

you'll never fix it. So just acknowledge

that shame is something everybody feels.

Acknowledge that it's an agent for

change and acknowledge that everybody

goes through this. And so when you think

about these people that are stuck really

in their own way because they don't want

to believe that things will work out and

then they blame their past traumas

because of it, which like I have been

through plenty in my life. I get it. And

do you want to continue giving your

power to that thing? Because if you

continue to stay miserable, you are

handing your power over to this thing

that took your joy in the first place.

And I think a lot of people think that

healing trauma and whatever is about

figuring out your story and figuring out

blame and fault. And it's really not.

It's more about forgetting your story

and remembering everything that it made

you forget, which is joy and happiness

and innocence and naivity and like this

awe for the world. And if you can tap

back into that of which shadow work

tends to be the key for it, that is

where you're going to find that energy

for when you're on and that's what's

going to like carry you forward. But

this requires going inward and doing the

work of like,

okay, wow, okay, so I blamed this other

person for that, but actually this was

my role in it, and I'm going to take

responsibility for that without feeling

bad about it. And I'm just going to

acknowledge that I want to be different

next time. And I'm going to review this

whole set of beliefs that I have that

was gifted to me by my family. And I'm

going to ask myself if I actually

believe those things even though it's

probably going to create separation from

my family.

And these are the things that we have to

work on to really like come into

adulthood and step into ourselves. And

most people are terrified of it. And

then we wonder why relationships don't

work out or people get divorced or have

midlife crises because no one's asked

themselves what they wanted for their

whole life until they're 50. And so it's

this component of being able to tap into

these and not being afraid of it. We're

like that's how you cure this energy.

Like I was talking to someone the other

day and we were doing subconscious work

and he has been just stuck. He's been

stuck in a negative place and like he

went through some health stuff. very

understandable like health the the brain

health relationship like I presented it

earlier as like your thoughts result in

your physiology which I will believe to

be true above all else but also your

physiology makes it that much harder to

maintain your thoughts and your

frequency because if you have inflamed

messed up physiology it makes your

neurotransmitters really funky and then

it's a hard to keep positive thoughts

like I get that but he's gotten caught

in this place of negativity and when I

asked him like okay like what's a safe

place in your mind in your imagination

that we can go to have a conversation

with this part of yourself.

Couldn't come up with one.

>> And and I get that that's like an

unusual exercise for people, but

if you are at the point in your life

where you're middle-aged and you cannot

come up with an imaginary safe place in

your brain to go hang out, mine's like a

mountain meadow with a lake.

it probably means you should think about

it more

>> and you should develop that pathway in

your brain and you should create that in

your reality. And again, it goes back to

the like they just haven't even thought

about it. And this is what Joe

Despensza's stuff is all about and like

changing the brain. He basically has you

focus really hard just like you're

saying about Bruce Lipton. They're right

on point with each other. Write

everything down. Imagine what you want.

Now imagine what that feels like. Now

step into it. Now feel it and feel it in

your body. But if you never wrote it

down or you never even imagined a place

where you feel safe, no wonder you feel

unsafe all the time. You can't even come

up with a safe place in your head. So

it's just this concept of having people

practice these things and realizing that

this stuff, your health, your body, your

mind, your mood, your emotions.

It's not backseat stuff.

It's the front seat stuff. It should be

the priority of your entire life. That

is you as a human. This is what we came

to this planet to do as humans. We

didn't come to sit at a desk. We came to

have a human experience and grow through

our shadow stuff and our evolution and

our relationships and build community

and have a lifelong human experience of

richness. If you're prioritizing your

Friday deadline over that and you're

depressed and unfulfilled, it might be

why.

>> Now you reminded me of that full

sentiment. You get you give what you or

Yeah. You get what you give and you see

what you're looking for. And that was

the other part of that. I knew anyways

the thought came back. Totally.

>> I agree with that.

>> Um, all right. Are you ready for these?

How are we doing on timing right now?

>> 42.

>> 42. Good. Good. You want to do some like

the the pop the pre-loaded popcorn

questions?

>> Sure.

>> All right. Uh, by the way, where do

people follow you?

>> Uh, they can follow me on Instagram at

Dr. Christine Smith. And they can also

follow me on YouTube at depth dwellness.

Uh, that's like you have depth. And so

just reminding them that they can find

those there. The Instagram stuff is

going to be like fast, quick info,

sometimes a few lives, but all those

lives get uploaded to the YouTube as

well. So YouTube's more like long form

content like this.

>> Cool. Awesome. All right, you ready?

What's uh one hidden injury people

ignore that's secretly wrecking their

vitality?

>> Leaky gut, hands down. number one thing

because people don't realize that when

you get injured, twist your ankle, uh

have some kind of chem chemical exposure

like breathing in the fires when they're

going on or if you have an emotional

injury like going through a divorce or

having a friendship end or losing a job.

All of those create an inflammatory

state in your body that actually creates

permeability in the gut. And then when

you get leaky gut, you get toxins

leaking through into your bloodstream.

They start to affect your brain. You

start to get clouded thinking. You start

to get more anxious. It creates more

inflammation. It creates this whole

horrible cycle. Then all of a sudden,

five years after your divorce, you're

wondering why you have Hashimoto's.

>> All right. Wow. Hashimoto's. That was

that other Ryan Monahan as well. That

was

>> Yes. Just an example of whatever they

can. I mean, it's whatever your Achilles

heel is. And then if you want to get,

you know, eastern medicine and woo with

it, you can go into the fact of like

chakras and stuff. confidence like a lot

of people who develop Hashimoto's and

autoimmune of this area have suppressed

their voice in some way.

>> Leaky gut. Um how does someone know if

they have leaky gut?

>> Um it can start very subtly but it's

usually all of the little symptoms that

we have that we just kind of write off

and take a pill for. People are like,

"Oh, I have joint pain. Let me take an

Advil." "Oh, I have a migraine. Let me

take an etc." Like instead of being

like, "Why do I have a migraine? Why do

I have joint pain? Let me figure that

out." So it's like if you chronically

have inflamed joints and arthritis,

especially if it's off and on, that off

and on is a signal of like when you're

inflamed.

>> So that like off and on thing, if you're

getting bloated, it doesn't always show

up as gut symptoms. Mine showed up as

depression.

>> It was like anxiety and depression was

like highly connected to my gut stuff

and a lot of women deal with that.

People who have had concussions deal

with that. Nobody really talk. If you

get a concussion, you inevitably have

leaky gut. Highly connected. Bloodb

brain barrier and your gut barrier are

very similar.

>> Wow. If I'm adding more of my popcorns

in between the pre-loaded ones, what

does someone do about that?

>> Sure. So, naturally,

if you think about like what our

ancestors did or like just like let's

think logically for a second. Let's say

your body is feeling really inflamed and

backed up and just like not great and

you're like your stomach just kind of

feels eh. Do you really want to like eat

a lot of stuff? Not usually. So, what

our ancestors would have done if they

ate something that made them feel meh,

they just didn't eat more stuff for a

while. So if you do a little bit of a

fast and then you eat nourishing things

for your gut. So think soft things,

right? Not rough vegetables like kale,

which people are like, "But kale's

healthy." It's like, well, it depends on

the state of your gut. If your gut's

inflamed and it's pissed off, think

about when your skin is really

irritated. Same skin, inside skin,

outside skin, same skin. You want oils,

you want fats, you want proteins. So

think like meat and fat and that kind of

stuff. And that's going to soothe the

gut, which is why carnivore can be great

when people are super inflamed. But then

a if you only do that for a while, you

don't feed your microbiome enough and

then you don't transform your hormones

enough and then your testosterone can

drop and all this stuff. So it's like

therapeutic things at therapeutic times.

So if you have leaky gut, like bone

broth is one of the most natural things

that you can do to heal your leaky gut

because the glutamine, the collagen, the

minerals, all that kind of stuff. I just

make my own at home in a crock pot. Fill

out all stuff and ignore it for 10

hours. You're good. Got meat for the

week. Super easy to do. Um,

>> I'll have to get you some of our femur

creamer, which is freeze-dried bison

bone broth.

>> Excellent. Okay. So, yeah, all of your

products, right, would be great for this

kind of stuff. So, anything bone broth

oriented, um, the organ meat supplements

can be helpful, but again, it depends on

the state of it. So, if you're someone

where it's like you live a pretty normal

life, you haven't had toxin exposures,

your stress stress is like middle line,

you're probably fine doing just like

some normal basic gut protocol. If

you're someone who's super stressed out

and you just went through like a crazy

mold exposure and a breakup and had a

car accident, then you're probably going

to need something a little bit different

and you might need something gentler

because people who have been through

toxin exposures don't detox well. So,

they can't handle detox foods and they

can't handle plant irritants. And so,

it's like

>> and they're they're not the candidates

for a bunch of probiotics because their

body's already too pissed off. So,

probiotics are not the answer to every

leaky gut scenario. they can be a part

of it especially later but in the

beginning it just depends on what's

going on.

>> All right. If I understand your work

blends neuroscience and chiropractic.

>> What's the ultimate mind and neck

connection you've discovered?

Mind and neck.

>> Mind and neck.

>> Yeah. Like literally the neck is there.

>> Oh, interesting.

Okay.

So my my original like research

background I was going to go to med

school for neurology and then I chose

chiropractic because I saw what touch

can do in health and touch is like

totally missing from our healthare

system and um it can transform a nervous

system in an hour if you do it right.

And so it's like people who've been

stuck in fight or flight I do like a

trauma release technique three

appointments most of them are done. We

just got rid of a guy's OCD in like two

appointments. So it's um I think touch

is a huge component of things and when

you start talking about the neck let's

see can you expand on that question

slightly can you just say it another way

>> yeah like from me to um have a healthy

mind what is the most powerful thing I

can do with like my physically with my

neck

>> got it okay so

I find most people maintain their cars

better than their body if you're

maintaining your car better than your

body you should probably review that.

And when you think about like all the

different stuff that we go through in

life, from that crash on the soccer

field you had when you were a teenager

to that snowboarding thing to that ski

thing to that car accident to that

fender bender to that tweak you had in

your neck to that sleeping wrong to that

football accident, your body's gone

through a lot, right? So, let's maintain

it. And as you maintain all the stuff in

the neck, it takes pressure off of the

brain in a lot of different ways. So

when we're talking about like systemic

pressure, I'm talking about that allic

load. Again, if you have physical

inflammation and injury going on in your

body, you're going to have less chemical

and emotional resiliency.

So simply by taking care of your neck,

your brain is going to work better and

you're going to be more tolerant of

emotions and you're going to be more

tolerant of toxins in the environment

because you're no longer overwhelming

your immune system with that inflamed

neck. So this is why I love chiropractic

work. And a lot of people think

chiropractic is just about like cracking

stuff and like cracking your neck and

you're out. And there's some people that

work in like 5 10 minute appointments

and they do great work and sometimes

they're really good at moving stuff and

I go to them if I need to. I see people

for like an hour in my office. We work

on a bunch of different stuff. And so

it's like it's not just the cracking for

me. It's understanding the movement of

the structural tissue and then the soft

tissue and it's like working on hardware

and then updating software and then

sending a signal through and then

updating it again. So for me it's much

more like a computer system and like a

mechanics system um mixed with life

force and quantum as this like giant

ocean. So all of that and that's like

the whole the body is a hologram concept

which can be a whole other kind of

conversation. But simply by maintaining

the nerve pathways, the curvature, the

posture, all of that takes strain off

the soft tissues. All of that takes

strain off the inflammation and immune

system and it allows the signals to go

back and forth between your brain and

your body more effectively, which is

really what chiropractic is all about.

It's just helping the brain and the body

communicate so that your life force can

be expressed. That's the whole purpose

of it. Um, then you'll always operate

better. So, I'm a huge advocate for body

work. I'm getting body work after this

so that I'm not a hypocrite because I

threw a rib out and I would like to have

it back in.

>> Wow. All right. Yeah, I'm I'm craving

some body work right now.

What's the weirdest subconscious belief

you've helped someone rewire with?

Psych. Is it psych? Is that how you say

it?

>> Yeah, psych is one of them. Um, that

one's cool because it's a muscle testing

technique. So, you're literally you can

help someone figure out if they're lying

to themselves. It's really cool. Yeah.

So, someone will be like, I want to

believe this. And it'll be like,

actually, you already believe that.

Okay. Well, I want to believe this.

Okay. Your cells don't agree with that.

So, let's help imprint that one. And

they use neurological postures to

imprint. Um

trying to think of the weirdest one. I

had like a really cute one, right? I had

like a 8-year-old come in. She'd been in

a car accident with her dad and she was

scared to get in the car.

>> We did one balance. She got in the car

and left perfectly happy. And we just

had to we just had to balance it's safe

to be in the car with dad. Like her body

just didn't believe that. Her mind knew,

but her body didn't believe it. So we

integrated into her body and she was

fine. Um

>> I think you know the interesting thing

about psych is it's all about the

quality of your balances. Balance being

like this integration process uh rather

than the quantity. And so it usually

ends up being talking to people about a

whole bunch of stuff that's going on in

their lives. And then it always comes

down to some core belief. And they're

really basic core beliefs like I'm

enough or well done or

I easily release my anxiety and trust

the universe. And sometimes it's just a

feeling that we shift. Sometimes the

feelings are way more powerful. I

actually love doing feelings with men

because you guys are already analytical

anyway. And so sometimes we can do a

statement around things and then I'll do

like statements with women, right? So

sometimes you need to counterbalance

stuff, but it depends on what's coming

up for them. But I'll find men often

resonate with the feeling a lot. And I

think it's because you guys don't get to

feel because you have to live this

double societ. Well, you do feel, but

you don't you're not allowed to. And so

it's like this weird societal standard.

And so they'll come in, we'll be working

on something. I don't need to know

anything about what's going on. And we

were just shifting a feeling the other

day from

um

yeah, basically dread to optimism.

And so that's all we did. We sat there

in the posture and we waited for his

internal system to shift and transmute

this feel. And like I'll I'll mix NLP in

there sometimes and give them like a

color to work with if they need

something tangible depending on if

they're like a kinesthetic or visual

person. And uh and then we just waited

for his system to transmute. This took

him about two minutes and then came back

out, tested strong. His body was now on

that path. And this is this is the

person where we've been working with

some really old patterns. And um you

know there's always layers of stuff and

so it's not like one thing is always the

answer but I do find that just a simple

shift something like that. It's

different in subconscious work. It's not

that you leave and you're like you're

like I consciously know all this stuff.

It's like you leave you're like I just

feel slightly different and then the

next week you realize that thing that

used to scare you doesn't scare you

anymore. Or you're like I just did this

thing that I've been procrastinating on

forever and I didn't even think twice

about it. How'd that happen? That's the

subconscious work.

>> Wow. Okay. I like that. Thank you. Thank

you. If chronic inflammation were a

personality,

how would you describe it?

>> This is like parts work. Oh my gosh. Um,

okay. I'm going to describe it in the

way that I want people to see it

because I could describe it as this like

annoying personality of which it can be

but that's the wrong mindset. That's a

victim mindset. So when we come to the

empowering nurturing adult mindset,

it's this toddler in you that has a

stomach ache and twisted their ankle and

got stung by a bee.

Soothe that kid. Ask them what they

need. Get them ice for the sting.

rub their ankle and hold them

and and just continue asking what they

need until they calm down. And I think

that's the best way to look at it

because then you're basically reparing

your own immune system which is the

actual effective outcome that we're

after versus if you sit there and you're

like it has this personality of being a

narcissistic complaining blah blah blah

blah blah like then people are going to

get stuck there. So instead, focus on it

as this part of you that you need to

take care of because it's an infant and

innocent and naive and simply trying to

be safe and protect you. And that's what

every single part of you is for. And

whenever people dissociate and create

fractured parts of themselves, usually

from complex PTSD,

that's how you integrate it. You go find

that part, you talk to it, you ask what

it needs to feel safe, and you bring it

back in. Every single subconscious

technique works very similarly to that.

>> And so if you can integrate these parts

again, this is how you start to create

wholeness in the psyche. And when you

create wholeness in the psyche, you no

longer have static in that energetic

field we were talking about earlier.

>> Wow. I'm I'm excited to relisten to

this.

>> Me, too.

>> When the body says something's off,

what's the most overlooked signal?

>> Energy.

When you are feeling fatigued in your

life and drained, look at what's

draining your energy.

Like things that are good for you should

give you life force.

And thi this is the tougher one that I

have in practice with people sometimes.

I will have people come in and I know

that they're in a toxic environment

relationally

and then they come in with all these

health problems. They've done all the

right things and we're doing all the

right things and they're not having a

shift.

>> It's because they're surrounded by

something toxic.

One myth people have about healing they

should drop. What is it?

That it's a destination.

It is a system that you maintain. You're

in a vehicle. Maintain your vehicle or

it will pull to the right.

And you cannot be mad at it when it does

later when you never aligned it.

And you can't be mad at your engine for

going out if you never change the oil.

>> All right. My understanding is you

healed from mold toxicity.

>> One of many things, but yes, that was a

big one.

>> What was the first thing that shifted?

>> My brain and my energy. Um, mold

notoriously creates like fatigue and

apathy and it was like the weirdest kind

of depression I've ever been through.

I've been through depression before um

from like life circumstances, but that

was like a chemical depression and it it

wasn't like people there, you know,

people understand depression is like a

lack of serotonin. All of that research

is basically being disproven now. You

can go look at meta studies all over

this. It's basically depression is

inflammation of the brain and your

neurotransmitter is not working right.

Sometimes it's circumstantial, but a lot

of the time it's just inflammation and

everyone's inflamed now. And if you can

manage that inflammation, it can usually

bring it down. But um

I apologize. Can you repeat that

question one more time?

>> Oh, it was what was the first thing that

shifted when you

>> first? Yeah, the energy and stuff. So if

you can get that inflammation down, it

dramatically shifts everything. The

thing about clearing from mold is it's

not fast

>> and it's a very weird slow process. Now,

I got the joy of going through it three

times in about a year,

which is also why I reacted so poorly.

Um, plus the stress that I was going

through emotionally and being physically

injured and inflamed. So, just

everything had a megaphone. But in going

through it three times, I had this

experience of what it was like to be

okay. Cuz it's like because that

question I'm like, I almost have to

answer it in the reverse because it's

hard to know what the first thing that

shifted coming back was because it's

like a slow slow thing. But when you get

hit with it, especially after you

already know it, you're like, "Oh crap,

tomorrow I'm not going to be able to

remember a phone number."

>> And that's what happened. And so I came

up with this description of what it's

like for me. And when it was coming on,

I think this was like the third time I

got hit. I was like, I have to record

this this time so I can remember. It was

this feeling of like, and this is when

it's hitting you. And so the answer to

your question would be the opposite and

coming out of this, right? But when it

hits you, it's like

all of a sudden everything, all your

thoughts and emotions that you knew, if

you imagine standing in like this big

hallway where everything is stored, it's

all of a sudden empty. And you're just

standing in like this foggy purgatory

where all your thoughts and emotions

used to be with no ability to focus. And

then you like might kind of focus on

something for a second and like see a

thought train and then you get

distracted because you're inflamed and

you have ADD and then you look back over

to your thought train and it's just gone

and you're just standing there in this

purgatory of yourself in your own mind.

I would sit on my bed and stare at the

wall for two and a half hours and like

not even realize it.

>> So it's like you like almost don't even

live in this timeline anymore. And when

you think about the fact that you're

basically being invaded by a creature

that operates on frequency,

you are then dealing with all these

other like people get this feeling with

parasites too. You feel like it's that

same feeling that you have when you feel

like someone's in your home. You're just

like a little bit on edge and you you

just feel like something is off but you

can't tell what it is. It's that same

internal feeling the whole time. Um and

then at the same time your brain just

shuts down like I no way would I have

been able to finish this sentence or

pick up a thought train. like the fact

that I can do that again

>> and be on a podcast again. Like I

couldn't be on podcasts during that

time. I couldn't even think

>> and like it's just it's such a weird

experience to go through and I'm I'm a

decently smart person and like I

literally could not remember a phone

number and I had to stop reading labs

because I couldn't interpret the data.

>> So it was the reverse of all that. It

was feeling like I had a personality

again, feeling like I cared about

anything, feeling like I had energy,

feeling like so my my symptoms from it

and like from food and what I was

dealing with was my skin. So my symptoms

were incredibly obvious. That's how I

kind of considered myself clear. Um, but

I basically just had a completely raw

skin from like my chest all the way up

to my nose and in my armpits for like

two or three years. It's like the most

miserable time of my life. Wow. Um, and

so when that's how I knew when I was at

the Joe Despensza conference that it was

making a difference. My rash was going

away at the conference from meditation

alone.

>> And I was eating foods I was sensitive

to.

So that's the power of the mind.

>> And this might be redundant, but maybe

they'll they'll bring up something

different. What's the nervous system

hack that changed the most for you?

>> The trauma release response. That's why

I got into body work. Um, I thought I

was going to do like stem cell research.

I was all set up to be in research and

ended up um,

yeah. Oh, that's right. We had a 100

hour exam and I was super stressing out

about it. And, uh, and at this point

like I tried to convent like I had, you

know, anxiety as a teenager, a lot of

teenagers do. as a female, you're then

immediately put on hormones and then

immediately put on anti-depressants and

then everybody ignores you for the next

couple years where you develop weird

chemical things. Um, and

I didn't realize I've been put on an

anti-depressant that basically

perpetuated my norepinephrine anxiety

pathway. So, it made my anxiety worse,

turned into panic attacks,

>> and I didn't understand what was

happening to me. I was all prepped to

like go to med school and do all this

stuff. And I was really desperate and we

had this 100 hour exam and I kind of had

a freak out and I ended up reaching out

to this like energetic PT my aunt

referred me to and I was like whatever

I'll see the woo woo guy because I'm

very heavy in research still at this

point

>> and he did the touch technique that I

was talking about and it's like just a

couple kinds of touch done in a specific

rhythm that basically stimulates the

brain in a certain way where it makes it

enter a meditative state and reprograms

the amydala.

three appointments, six hours,

completely out of fight or flight, never

used another medication again. I was

like, "What did you do to me, dude?" And

uh then I got into cognitive

neuroscience and joined a different lab

and started studying how the brain and

the body affect each other. And um I now

use that technique when people are

really, really, really, really stuck.

And not everybody is that stuck in their

nervous system, but if you're that

stuck, you're not going to absorb

nutrients or supplements anyway. So, if

you're one of those people where you've

been taking all the things and eating

all the right things and nothing's

changing, it's probably because you're

locked in a cell danger response. And

this is why I work with the mind is

because if we can get your mind to

unlock your cells, then you can actually

release toxins and absorb nutrients. And

so, that technique, if someone is in

that locked state, will unlock them if

they've tried everything else.

>> But it comes back to touch. It's the

same as there's a whole book about it

called touching. and she talks about how

animals when you have baby animals and

their parent doesn't like lick a certain

part of their body that organ doesn't

work as well.

>> And so we've just we've completely lost

touch from our healthcare system and it

is the most foundational part of all of

it.

>> Okay. And this once again we'll just end

it here. If you can finish this sentence

for me true healing starts with

>> you.

You are the key to all of it. No one can

heal you.

>> Well, thank you. What are we on the time

here? What do we do?

>> One hour and four.

>> Nice. Do you have any questions for me?

>> What do you find most interesting?

>> Oh, I think I I I find it interesting

that I'm very excited to relisten to

this. Yeah, that'll be a good one. to

see if I fully understand everything you

said because it was a there was certain

times when you were speaking it was

almost like a hypnotic positive

subconscious programming.

>> Great. I'll be I'll be really curious to

hear what part of that that was for you

because I always think I don't know. I

always worry that I'm talking too simply

but I'm like continually having to make

it simpler. Well, well, yeah, you were

making some big concepts simple, but

they're still big concepts and then and

you you were really bringing empowerment

to these topics and in a very

precise, concise, quick way.

>> Thank you.

>> So, I I imagine the work you do is very

powerful.

>> Thanks. The reals were actually really

good training for being more concise.

Forced me to be able to say what I say

in seconds.

>> Yeah. Made me better at elevator

speeches.

>> Yeah. I uh for breaking normal I have

the the podcast that were on the book

that's yours and um

>> I had an app where they it was like

there was different tribes of people and

there was a question of the week and you

only had one take

>> and you can't edit it, no filters and

you had to answer it in one take

and other people could see your response

and they had to give you feedback in one

take and the only way you could see

their feedback is if you give them

feedback. And then what it was, it was

this training to communicate what's most

important in 30 seconds or less. Less.

And what an exercise.

>> 100%. Yep. I think the lives trained me

well, too, because there is no editing.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. See,

>> so it's like there's no getting to be

casual. There's like you're just on.

So it's uh Yep. I agree with that. It's

been a been a learning.

>> And tell us your IG. Where to follow you

one more time.

>> Just Dr. Christine Smith.

>> Dr. Christine Smith. Look at that. What

another epic connection, Yel, thank you.

Let's pa let's do podcasts is definitely

breaking normal.

>> Yes. Thank you.