The AI Tools We Are Actually Using
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Okay. So, AI stack, one of the things
that I've noticed has become quite is
becoming more and more kind of
ubiquitous in the space is this idea of
an AI assistant that is not your phone,
but something that you can kind of call
when you need to remember something,
when you need to take notes, when you
you know, and Tim, I was wearing that
that little pendant when you and I got
together.
>> Hate it. Hate it.
>> It's always recording. And Tim Tim goes
to me, he's like, "Is that always
recording?" I was like, "Yeah." And he
goes, "Yeah, I I hate to ask you this,
but can you just take it off? It's too
much anxiety for me." [laughter] So, I
had to take off that pendant and put it
in my bag. But I agree with you in that
it is weird. It does our
conversations in our honesty when you
know there's something that's there
listening all the time, right?
>> Yeah. 100%.
>> And so, a couple things. Nothing. The
Android phone company, I'm not an
investor or anything like that. They
make headphones, which I'm wearing right
now for this podcast. And but one of the
things that was really cool is just like
when they released this headphones a
month ago, they have a little talk
button on the headphones. And so if you
hold down talk as you're holding your
headphones case, I can record anything
and it goes into their AI and it creates
to-do lists for me, not whatever it may
be. It's just fun.
>> That's a cool feature.
>> There's a company called Sandbar and we
invested true. It wasn't my deal.
>> Quick question. Do you need to have an
Android phone to use those?
>> Yes, you need to have a nothing phone.
Okay.
>> And so that's the problem. But the idea
is sound and that it's not always on.
It's just when you need it, right?
>> Y.
>> And one of the things that Sandbar did,
and I have one of their prototype rings
around here somewhere, but one of the
things that Sandbar did is they created
a ring almost like an aura ring where if
you just lightly touch it, you can
whisper to any notes you might want and
it saves it in the AI cloud on your
phone, Android OS, whatever. And if you
have headphones in, it'll respond back
to you. So you be like, "Hey, remind me
what's that meeting I have tomorrow?"
just like quietly. It doesn't listen to
the entire room and then it gives you
that data back in your headphones.
>> Anyway, Sandbar is not out yet. It's
coming out middle of next year.
>> Highly recommend sandbar.com checking
out. Like I said, it is something that
we invested at the fund level, but it's
not my deal. But I will say I like where
this is going. Even if it's not Sandbar,
something like this that is a little
companion that is not your big ass phone
that can be engaged with when you want
to, you know, jot something down is
quite cool. Outside of that, I would
say, you know, AI on the notion front
has been quite good. The agents that
they've added inside of notion are
phenomenal and that continues to get
better. What do you use that for? How do
you use that?
>> Notion just added notetaking now. So, if
you're in a Zoom or any type of video
call, it will automatically prompt you
to record the entire thing. And so, by
default, I always say to people, hey,
I'm just, you know, notion's not
actually recording the audio, but they
are transcribing it. and they put the
meeting notes and the bullet points into
my notion for me and then I can ask
questions of that transcript later on.
So, call it like a week or two later.
I'm like, "Hey, Tim mentioned some
really cool book by Anthony Dlo. Which
one was it?" And it would boom, right
there. It's like within two seconds.
>> Yeah,
>> that's really cool. And then you can ask
questions of your entire corpus of data.
So, if you're storing a bunch of stuff
in there, like I had my EIN number for
one of my LLC's and I was like, "Hey,
what's the EIN number for this LLC?"
It's like 2 seconds later, it's out.
Right. Yeah. So that's fun.
>> When do you think Gemini built into G
Suite will be good enough to do that for
an inbox?
>> It is now. It is now.
>> Is it?
>> Yeah, it is.
>> Okay. Cuz it was so disappointing as of
even a few weeks ago. I just enabled it
this kind of like deeper integration
which I I don't know if I'm a beta
tester, but they they let me in and it
does exactly what I just said. So it's
it's within the coming weeks if I happen
to be on some beta list then whatever.
But you know who will do this right now
is actually the the Gemini.
Oh, what are they calling it? It's their
their kind of AI suite where you can
drop documents into it and everything.
Everyone's screaming it, right? I mean,
>> you know what I'm talking about, right?
Have you played with this?
>> Oh, wait. Are you talking about Notebook
LM?
>> Yeah, notebook LM.
>> Yeah, notebook LM is getting better and
better. So, here's a fun hack. Okay,
this is a great one for your audience
cuz they like your productivity
everything. One thing that's [snorts]
really fun is imagine there's something
you want to learn that's new.
>> Insert anything you want to learn how to
do basic Pilates, right?
>> Go to chat JPT or Gemini or whatever
else and say, "Hey, give me a deep
research guide on the fundamentals of
Pilates." And then you hit go, right?
>> Mhm.
>> You wait five minutes, whatever. It
gives you back a whole script. You copy
that, paste it into notebook lm and say
create me a five minute podcast on the
fundamentals of plotties and you have an
instant podcast primer on that thing. I
use that for coding technologies. I use
I've used that for quantum computing.
Tim, do you know how quantum computing
works? Do you know how gates fold on
each other? I [snorts] didn't. And so I
drop that in there and then you say,
"Explain it like I'm five in a podcast."
Or not five, but you would say, "Explain
like I'm like a freshman in college."
>> Yeah. Fifth grader.
>> Yeah, exactly. Fifth grader. Whatever.
Like I have affantasia. I have no way to
recall this later. He gives you this
great little podcast and it's a fun
little way to learn anything new on the
go. I have to give a plug and I am an
investor in this company because it came
up in uh in a group thread. I don't
think he would mind me mentioning this,
but our mutual friend Chris Saka was
like, "My daughter just taught herself
about [snorts]
stock trading and this this and this."
And he took a screenshot and he's like,
"She created her own curriculum and da
da da da da." And it was from a startup
called Obo. And if people go to OBO,
that's obfy.
So obo.fyi,
it just says, "What do you want to learn
about? We'll make you a course." And you
literally just type it out and it gives
you everything in one place.
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The discussion revolves around the emergence of ubiquitous AI assistants beyond smartphones, focusing on devices that offer on-demand note-taking and information retrieval. Examples include an always-recording AI pendant that caused anxiety, Nothing headphones with a talk button for AI-powered to-do lists, and the Sandbar ring which allows discrete voice notes and AI responses. The speakers also highlight advancements in Notion's AI for transcribing video calls and querying personal data, and new learning tools like Google's Notebook LM for creating instant educational podcasts from research guides, and Obo.fyi for generating custom learning courses.
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