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If you're investing through one of the

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big Canadian banks, you will want to

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watch this video. Investigative

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journalism, research from Canadian

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regulators, and academic research all

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suggest that banks are more focused on

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selling products that are good for the

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bank than on giving advice in the best

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interest of their customers. The result

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is that Canadians taking advice from

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their banks, as many Canadians do, are

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often being sold suboptimal, high fee

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products by salespeople with limited

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expertise in portfolio management and

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financial planning. This is a problem

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worth addressing. I'm Ben Felix, chief

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investment officer at PWL Capital, and

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I'm going to tell you how the sales

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culture at Canadian banks may be

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affecting the advice bank financial

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adviserss provide to Canadians.

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I do want to be clear that we are

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talking about retail bank branches.

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Think about walking into a bank branch

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and asking to meet with a financial

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adviser in the branch. I also want to

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mention that the information in this

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video does not mean that there are not

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some good financial adviserss working at

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bank branches. I know they do exist

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because my firm PWL Capital has hired

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some of them. The incentive structure

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and sales culture within banks rather

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than the advisers themselves seem to be

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a big part of the problem that I'm going

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to highlight in this video. In a March

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2024 investigation, CBC News found that

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customers at Canada's big five banks,

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TD, RBC, Scotia Bank, Beimo, and CIBC

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were being pressured to buy financial

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products they did not need. And the bank

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employees were being told to push those

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products and services to meet sales

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targets or risk losing their jobs. The

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result is that bank employees were found

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to be giving questionable advice like

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telling people to invest in the bank's

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mutual funds or GIC's instead of paying

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off highinterest debt, misrepresenting

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the importance of mutual fund fees to

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expect investment outcomes, and

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upselling customers on more expensive

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financial products. Bank employees

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really don't seem to be malicious based

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on the CBC investigation. Some of them

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who are interviewed by CBC News are

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stressed out by the pressure to sell at

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all costs. Based on some of the comments

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by bank financial adviserss on mutual

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fund fees and expected returns, I

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suspect that beyond conflicts of

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interest, a lack of education

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contributes to the quality of advice.

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Some of the bank financial adviserss

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captured by CBC's investigation did not

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seem to know how mutual fund fees work

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or had unrealistic return expectations

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for mutual funds. One adviser even said

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that mutual fund fees are nothing to

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worry about, which is of course not

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true. This CBC investigative reporting

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is based on a relatively small sample

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and one could argue that it may not be

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representative of typical bank financial

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advice. In November 2024, in response to

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CBC's reporting, the Ontario Securities

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Commission and the Canadian Investment

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Regulatory Organization teamed up to

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coordinate a more systematic review of

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the sales practices at bank affiliated

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mutual fund dealers. They conducted a

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voluntary anonymous survey sent to all

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mutual fund dealing representatives

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working in one of the bank branches at

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five of Canada's bank affiliated mutual

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fund dealers in Ontario. The survey

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asked bank mutual fund representatives

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about the sales environment, sales

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pressure, and product availability in

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their bank branches and also asked

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questions designed to assess the

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knowledge of the representatives. It was

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completed by 2,863

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respondents, offering a much broader

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cross-section than CBC's reporting. The

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results did not show significant

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differences across banks or regions,

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leading the study's authors to suggest

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that the results and implications of the

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analysis are applicable across Ontario

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and across all five of the big bank

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affiliated mutual fund dealers. You can

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basically assume that the research

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applies to most bank financial

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adviserss. An interesting aspect of the

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report is that it details the average

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bank mutual fund representative. Based

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on the survey sample, on average, they

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hold one professional designation or

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credential, commonly the Canadian

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Securities Course or an equivalent,

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which is the bare minimum to sell mutual

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funds in Canada. They have six years of

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work experience as a mutual fund

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representative. 10% of their total

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compensation is variable, including

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things like bonuses and profit sharing.

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And they typically offer other financial

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products, including mortgages, lines of

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credit, credit cards, bank accounts, and

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GIC's in addition to mutual funds. Only

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9% of representatives hold other

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credentials, most often the CFP, and

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those representatives are more likely to

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offer planning based services. The main

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results of the survey are wild. 32% of

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representatives agree that the way

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representatives are compensated places

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more value on sales volume than on the

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quality of advice given to clients.

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About half of representatives, 47%,

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strongly disagree that the way they are

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compensated could create an incentive to

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prioritize sales goals over client

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interests. Well, 34% agree. One in three

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representatives agree that the way they

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are compensated could create incentives

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for representatives to prioritize sales

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and revenue targets over client

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interests. And 35% of representatives

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agree that the way they are compensated

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may increase the risk that

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recommendations made to clients are not

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suitable for those clients. I think most

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people would expect this type of

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incentive system when buying a car, but

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not for financial advice. 68% of

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representatives say they experience

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sales pressure at least sometimes and

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35% experience it often or always. 44%

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agree that there is a fear of job loss

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due to not being able to meet sales,

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revenue, client or asset targets. 23%

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agree that there is high pressure to

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sell potentially unneeded products or

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services to clients. And 25% indicate

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that clients have been recommended

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products or services that are not in

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their interests at least sometimes. If

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you're a consumer of bank financial

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advice, that is a scary statistic. 25%

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of bank mutual fund representatives

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surveyed said that clients have been

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sold products that are not in the

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client's best interest, at least

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sometimes. The study does also find an

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unsurprising relationship between sales

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pressure and advice not in the client's

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best interest. Representatives who

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reported experiencing higher levels of

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sales pressure were more likely to agree

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that clients have been recommended

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products or services that are not in

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their interests. A majority, 55% of

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respondents reported having concerns

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related to sales pressure at least

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sometimes, while 25% reported having

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these concerns often or always. A large

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portion of these concerned

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representatives are reluctant to raise

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their concerns at their workplace due to

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the fear of reprisal. And of those that

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have raised concerns, 43% of them

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indicated that their concerns were

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addressed rarely or never. All things

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considered, the results show that most

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of the mutual fund representatives

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working for one of the big five banks

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have at minimum some concerns related to

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sales pressure in their roles. Many of

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them are reluctant to raise these

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concerns in the workplace. And among

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those who have voiced their concerns,

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nearly half of them feel that their firm

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has not appropriately address their

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concerns. Sales pressure is definitely

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one thing that bank customers should be

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deeply concerned about. But even in the

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absence of sales pressure, many bank

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mutual fund representatives are simply

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limited in the investment products they

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can offer. Bank advisers are often

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limited to using bank funds. This makes

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sense for the bank, but not necessarily

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for their clients. 78% of

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representatives surveyed say that their

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existing range of product meets the

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needs of their clients, but almost half

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of them do agree that clients would

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benefit if they could be offered a

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broader range of mutual funds, including

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mutual funds from providers other than

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the bank. This just makes sense. A

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bank's mutual funds, which are often

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going to be high fee actively managed

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funds, might be useful in some cases

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maybe, but it's hard to argue that

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limiting the available products to the

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bank's funds is a good thing for

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clients. This Canadian regulatory study

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is supported by past academic research.

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A 2018 paper in the Review of Financial

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Studies uses data from a large retail

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bank to analyze how banks and their

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financial advisers generate profits from

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customers. The authors find that

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transactions initiated by bank advisers

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earn the bank higher profits than

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independently executed trades placed by

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the same client. Unsurprisingly, the

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bank's own mutual funds and structured

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products are the most profitable

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products for the bank. Bank profits

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increase with trade size and bank

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advisers recommend transactions that are

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profitable for the bank. If these

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profitable transactions were also making

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clients better off, it would be easy to

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argue that there is no issue here. But

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the research finds that bank advised

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clients have worse performance than

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unadvised clients, suggesting again that

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advisers put the bank's interests before

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the clients. I want to mention again

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that these issues are more with the

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incentive structure and the sales

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culture at the banks than with the

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advisers themselves. I don't think bank

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financial advisers are malicious even if

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they are affected by conflicts of

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interest. Their knowledge levels may

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also be affecting their ability to

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identify the conflicts and other issues

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with their advice. About 80% of

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representatives in the regulatory study

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believe that their peers are

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sufficiently knowledgeable on a variety

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of financial topics, but onethird of

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representatives reported that clients

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have been provided with incorrect

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information about products or services

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being recommended to them at least

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sometimes. And 23% of representatives

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were unable to correctly identify the

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definition of a management expense ratio

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or me, one of the most important

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attributes of a mutual fund. This also

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lines up with academic research. The

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2021 paper, the misguided beliefs of

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financial adviserss, published in the

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journal of finance, finds in a Canadian

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sample of financial adviserss and their

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clients, that advisers typically make

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the same mistakes personally as they do

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in their client accounts. They trade too

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much. They chase past returns. They

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prefer expensive, actively managed

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mutual funds and they underdiversify

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their portfolios. The advisers's

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personal accounts underperform just as

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poorly as their clients. The study also

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shows that advisers continue to make

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these mistakes after they leave the

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financial services industry, suggesting

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that they weren't just putting on a show

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to convince clients to buy higher fee

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products. They really believed in the

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bad advice that they were selling. This

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again suggests that conflicts of

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interest are only part of the problem

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and highlights the importance of raising

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the educational bar for financial

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adviserss. Solving where that bar should

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be across the industry from a regulatory

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perspective is a big job. I do think

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some things are moving in the right

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direction here in Canada, but investors

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seeking advice can still look for

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advisers with more than the bare minimum

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regulatory credentials. Credible

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credentials with rigorous credentiing

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programs, ethical standards, and

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enforcement for professional and ethical

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conduct like the CFA and CFP are good

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places to start. It is also worth noting

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that how an adviser is registered does

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matter. A discretionary portfolio

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manager in Canada is generally held to a

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higher legal standard with a deemed

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common law fiduciary duty to their

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clients than a non-discretionary mutual

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fund representative. My hunch is that

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many consumers assume that financial

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advisers are required to act in their

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best interest, but that is not always

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the case. The good news for consumers is

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that there are non-bank firms that

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employ portfolio managers, use lowcost

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investment products, and limit their

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conflicts of interest. Acknowledging my

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own biases here, as the chief investment

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officer at PWL Capital, I think that PWL

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is a great example. PWL's clients work

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with portfolio managers whose

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compensation is not tied to product

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sales. We require our adviserss to have

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advanced credentials like the CFA and

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CFP, and we promote and pay for ongoing

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education for our adviserss. It's part

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of our culture. PWL even takes all this

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a step further by getting independently

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certified as placing our clients

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interests first by the center for

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fiduciary excellence. I've been part of

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that annual audit and it is no joke. I'm

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not saying that PWL is good because I

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work for PWL. I work for PWL because I

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think that the way this firm operates is

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exactly how financial advice should be

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provided to Canadians. I started out in

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financial services with a

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commission-based job selling insurance

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and mutual funds. I had to sell high fee

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actively managed products or insurance

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if I wanted to eat. I feel for the bank

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advisers in a similar position, but that

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doesn't make raising awareness about the

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problems with bank financial advice any

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less important. What's important for

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consumers to understand is that CBC News

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investigative journalism and a recent

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survey conducted by the OC and CRO

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suggests that financial advisers at

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branches of Canada's big five banks are

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under heavy pressure to sell financial

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products that are often not in the best

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interest of their clients. One in four

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representatives in a regulatory study

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report that clients have been

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recommended product or services that are

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not in their interests. The study

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suggests that this may be tied to the

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sales environment within the five bank

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affiliated dealers, including

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compensation incentives and performance

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metrics used. A high degree of pressure

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to meet sales targets and the frequent

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use of scorecards to track, compare, and

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emphasize those sales targets. That kind

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of sales culture and incentive structure

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might be appropriate at a car

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dealership, but at least in my opinion,

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financial advice deserves a much higher

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bar. Consumers should be looking for

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adviserss with credentials like the CFA

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or CFP who are employed by firms that

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put their clients interests first,

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encourage education for their adviserss,

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and incentivize highquality advice over

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product sales. Thanks for watching. I'm

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Ben Felix, chief investment officer at

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PWL Capital. If you found this

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information useful, please share it with

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someone who is still taking advice from

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the bank.

Interactive Summary

This video discusses how the sales culture and incentive structures at Canadian banks may lead financial advisors to prioritize selling products that benefit the bank over the best interests of their clients. Investigative journalism and a survey by Canadian regulators reveal that bank employees face pressure to meet sales targets, sometimes resulting in questionable advice, such as recommending high-fee bank mutual funds over paying off high-interest debt or upselling unnecessary products. The survey also indicated that many representatives lack education on crucial financial concepts like management expense ratios and that their compensation structures often emphasize sales volume over advice quality. Academic research further supports these findings, showing that bank-advised clients tend to have worse performance than unadvised clients. The video suggests that consumers should look for advisors with advanced credentials (like CFA or CFP) from firms that prioritize client interests and have ethical standards, contrasting this with the practices found in many Canadian bank branches.

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