Speech Graphics ups price from $1000 to $35000/yr after revoking perpetual licenses; TOTAL SCUMBAGS!
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Hello. Are you ready for today's episode
of your favorite show? That's right.
We're back for another episode of how
you're getting I'm your host,
Louis Rossmann, and today we're going to
continue to hammer home why it is
breaking DRM, in my opinion, is
completely justified, moral, and should
never be a violation of federal law.
Today, we're going to be talking about a
piece of software called FaceFX. FaceFX
is a piece of software that costs about
a thousand dollars, give or take. It's
like $988 and some cents. And this was
software that allows you to animate
somebody's face based on audio. So, if
you take a picture of my face and you
want to put it into a video game and you
have me saying certain things, it'll
have my face animate based on the audio
that it hears, which is pretty useful. A
lot of solo game developers are using
this because it cost about a thousand
dollars, and it was pretty useful. And a
user recently got a communication saying
that his perpetually licensed FaceFX
Studio Professional had that had been
bought for $988.68
was going to stop working on November
30th, 2026. And that continued use of it
would require FaceFX Unlimited at
$35,000 per year, or FaceFX Runtime at
$25,000
a platform. They said that they
understand that as a solo developer,
these costs may not fit within your
budget. Your FaceFX Professional license
>> [laughter]
>> I mean,
yeah, I paid a thousand dollars for it.
And they're not saying, "Okay, you have
to pay a thousand dollars again."
They're not saying that you have to pay
two thousand dollars again. They're not
saying you have to pay a thousand
dollars a year. They're saying, "You
know that thing you paid a thousand
dollars for once? How would you like to
pay twenty-five to thirty-five thousand
dollars a year?
And if you don't, we're going to take it
away from you." But wait, it gets
better. This is completely legal,
apparently, in the United States of
America, because of this one part of
their terms of service. Term: This OC3
Agreement is effective until terminated.
You may terminate this agreement at any
time. OC3 may terminate this OC3
Agreement upon notice to you. Very
similar to what I was discussing in the
video on Amazon and their contract,
where they had something that didn't
have ads, you could pay to have video
without ads. They put ads into it, and
they said if you want to not have ads,
you can just pay more money even though
you already paid for it. And that's okay
because the contract says that they can
change what they give you at any time. I
mean this from the bottom of my heart.
This is not just about me hating on this
particular company or even wanting this
particular scenario to change. Forget
about this company. Forget about Face
FX. If you have a contract that says
you've paid a thousand dollars to have
access to this and you put somewhere in
the contract that we can take it away
from you and say, "LOL JK, a thousand
dollars isn't enough. We actually want
35,000 a year." When you do something
that ridiculous, this is not just saying
that your $300 license is suspended. We
can't support this software forever. Pay
300 again. You are taking it to a level
of absurdity that makes it impossible
for people to respect contract law. And
the reason that we have contract law in
the United States and in most developed
countries is because when you don't have
contract law, you have people that pick
up a screwdriver or a hammer and smash
people on the head with it to get what
they want. For most of human history,
99% of human history, it was whoever was
the strongest won. You have to think
about the society that we live in at
this point where when you look Look at
eBay. For all the problems at eBay,
people are willing to give away one or
two thousand dollars of their money to
somebody they've never met, that they
don't know, that they can't see, and
they just have faith that after one
thousand dollars has been taken from
them, that somebody they don't know is
going to package something and then
somebody else that they don't know is
going to deliver it to them. That's
crazy. For most of human history, this
would have not been possible. It's only
possible because we now are starting to
live in a high trust society. And
unfortunately, that high trust society
that took hundreds of thousands millions
of years to build is being destroyed
inside of five to ten years in a very
speed run process. I'm not even saying
this for your company. Like your
company for a moment. Forget about it.
And I say this as a business owner. And
like I I'm known as a consumer advocate
on this channel at this point, but I'm
first and foremost a business owner. And
that's one of the And I come at this
from the standpoint of a business owner.
From the standpoint of like the things
that I would and would not do to my
customers and what I would expect my
customers to do to me if I did this to
them. There are a number of things that
I don't do because I don't have an
office with security. I have a basic ass
store that anybody can walk into and
half of the time when I'm there, you can
see where I am. And if I do something
that is up enough to my
customers, somebody is going to walk in
with a machete and let me know what's
up. I'm not saying this is an evocation
of violence at all. I'm saying this
because I want you to understand what
goes through my mind anytime I'm
changing my policies or decisions on
what I'm dealing when I'm dealing with
my customers. I have dissatisfied
customers. I've been in business for
over 15 years at this point. I'm not
going to get hit everyone out of the
park and sometimes I think even if I've
done everything right, there are some
people that are just really unreasonable
and just want to be mad. And there are
sometimes where situations just suck
where I've done the best I could and in
spite of putting in all the effort that
I can, I fail anyway. But that is
different from situations where I've
engineered something where you're
practically begging somebody to hit you
in the face with a hammer. The reason
this pisses me off, not just as a
consumer advocate, but also as a
business owner, is because I would not
in a million years have the balls to try
any of these things because I have that
basic self-preservation of I don't want
to get hit in the face with a hammer by
one of my customers. Maybe it's cuz I
spent too much time in New York City and
in Bed-Stuy before gentrified, but
there's just certain things that you
just don't do to people if you want to
have a business. It's insane to me that
there are companies out there that think
that this is okay. So, there's a company
that purchased the company that produced
the software. I don't want everybody to
blame OC3 Entertainment. It does look
like OC3 Entertainment was acquired by
Speech Graphics and it was after the
acquisition that this happens about less
than a year. So, this is a very common
thing you'll see happen now where a
company will sell to somebody else and
after they sell, they do something like
this. Now, it's funny cuz you actually
have a couple of the responses from the
CEO. Hi, I'm the CEO of Speech Graphics.
I saw your post about wanting to keep
your FaceFX Professional going past its
end-of-life date on November 30th, 2026.
I think we can find a way to make it
work, but I want to be straight about
why we're retiring it. FaceFX
Professional was priced for Indies, but
it cost us more to maintain and keep
that license server running than it
brings in. On top of that, large studios
have been using the indie instead of
licensing unlimited, which is what it's
built for. Between the two, the product
isn't sustainable in its current form.
Now, again, I I I I I shouldn't be
interrupting this. I should finish the
whole thing, but I can't. It just makes
me angry. When he When he says licensing
server, what he means is the thing that
allows you to activate the product. So,
they don't trust me that I'm not going
to pirate the product. So, what they do
is they punish the legal owner of the
product, never the pirates. The pirates
never have to deal with this But,
the person who bought the product and
paid $1,000 for it, every time they
install it, they have to activate this.
And sometimes the product is going to
phone home with different pieces of
software to figure out whether or not
you're using a legitimate copy. Again,
something that never happens with the
pirated version, only happens with the
paid one. And you it's going to figure
out whether you're using a real copy of
it. And that costs them money. And to
me, that's a them problem. If I sell you
data recovery, and I say I will recover
your data for $600, I can't come back
next year, take your data away from you,
and tell you it's going to cost $15,000
cuz I actually figured out that all the
marketing I'm doing so that I could get
customers like you was costing me much
more than I thought.
I could never say that. That's insane.
That's a me problem, not a customer
problem. The same way that your your
licensing server is a you problem. So,
here's what I would propose. If it's
costing you so much money to run that
licensing server,
turn it off. And send everybody a patch
for the software so it doesn't require
the licensing server anymore.
That's a great way to solve the problem,
right?
You You're not going to do that. Of
course, you're not going to do that. And
that, in my opinion, is why piracy is
completely justified. I say this
as somebody that paid $79.99
for open source software as a
13-year-old teenager. I'm willing to pay
for the things that I find valuable, but
I will not for one second accept
any of these excuses from any of these
companies as to why it is you're allowed
to take away my because you can't
afford a licensing server.
Okay, distribute an offline patch.
We don't want to do that. Well,
you.
You bought the company, you bought the
resources, you bought the debts, you
bought the obligations. Fulfill your
obligations. They sold a
perpetual goddamn license. If you don't
want to offer that, then give the
company back, or give people an offline
patch so they can continue to use the
software without ever having to connect
to your licensing server on any computer
they want. DRM is not a paying
customer's problem. It's a you problem.
And if you want to keep doing like
this, sending out emails telling people
that their $900 software is now $35,000,
NOT ONCE A YEAR, don't be surprised if
we return to a society where nobody has
respect for contract law or the law in
general. That's not a world that I want
to live in cuz contract law benefits me.
Being able to have contracts with my
customers where we write down on paper
what we're both expecting and we both
live up to our obligations has been very
beneficial for me as a business owner
for damn near 18 years. And I don't want
all of that to be destroyed and just
return to the rule of the jungle where
somebody just knocks me on the head with
an SD card reader cuz they don't want to
pay for their data recovery at the end
and takes the drive back.
But that's the world that people like
you are speed running us towards. And
you for it. And last thing I want
to get over here is because somebody
suggested that this get put on the
consumer rights wiki. A lot of people
were suggesting that this get put on the
consumer rights wiki and somebody from
the consumer rights wiki said that this
would not be fitting because it needs to
have a certain number of coverage. It
can't be just one person's original
research. That is technically true.
However, what you can do is you can make
a user space article. So, this article
that I have on consumer rights that wiki
right now is not actually a main space
article. It's an article on my user
space. See how it says user Colden
Lawis? This is kind of like a blog
article. I'm going to be instructing the
moderators at the wiki to come up with a
very short guide on how to make a user
space article. A user space article is
an article that may not necessarily live
up to the standards for a main space
wiki article, but allows the entire
issue to be cataloged so that once it
does get all the information that it
needs, once there are more citations,
once we are able to independently verify
it by a number of other people, we can
then easily take that and turn it into a
main space article rather than having
nothing at all. I don't want that to
discourage you from actually making
articles on the wiki when these things
show up and if you want to get my
attention on something, I do read my
inbox every day, but if you have made a
wiki article on an issue, that's much
more likely to get me excited to discuss
it in a video. If you've made a wiki
article and I think that's a good way to
go forward if I want to try and utilize
and leverage my audience to try and
document all these abuses of consumer
protection in organized way rather than
it just be "Hey Louis, here's an issue."
and like I have 800 emails a day and
people want me to look into I can't look
into 800 issues a day. So, I'd like to
start leveraging my audience to do that.
The reason consumer rights.wiki has the
high standards that it does is because I
want to be able to show this to
legislators. I want to be able to show
this to a court someday. I want to be
able to show this to to judges, to
senators, to congress people. So, when a
lobbyist says that the legislation that
we're suggesting is a solution in search
of a problem that doesn't exist, I can
show them in the most disciplined way
possible that this problem does indeed
exist. The user of the software said
something that makes a lot of sense.
Regarding the business challenges of
maintaining it, I understand, but that's
the reality of acquiring a company
assuming it's an existing agreement from
a consumer perspective, speech graphics
bought a product and is now simply
choosing to brick it. If speech graphics
is unwilling or unable to maintain the
software I purchased, the solution is
simple, issue a full refund of $988.68.
I hope this gentleman goes ahead and
takes them to court and here's the
thing, like it's one of these things
where
it's not even about whether you win,
it's about wasting this company's time.
I want to see speech graphics get taken
to court in small claims court or
commercial claims court 15 to 30 times.
When you go to normal court, you're ex-
pected to have a lawyer, but when you go
to small claims court or commercial
claims court, you're not expected to
have a lawyer. And the great part about
going to small claims court and not
being expected that you have a lawyer is
usually only have to pay a filing fee of
20 or 30 dollars. If one person does
this, nah, whatever. But if 20 people,
if 80 people, if 500 people do it, their
expenses to respond to all these legal
battles are going to be more expensive
than keeping up that licensing server or
more expensive than coming up with an
offline patch for the software. I can't
do that. I I make a suit on behalf of
you because I wasn't aggrieved. If
you've used FaceFX software, I really
hope that every single person who ever
has opens up a small claims court or a
commercial claims court against Speech
Graphics for stealing away what it is
you bought and paid for. And even if
they win in court because of what it
says in the end user license agreement,
even if this wins, that's not even the
point. The point is they are trying to
take away something from you. At the
very least, you should take away
something from them. And when I look at
what it cost to have a lawyer defend you
on these types of claims,
uh I think they're going to wind up
paying a lot more in legal fees than
they would pay in refunds. It is your
job to make sure that they pay way more
in legal fees than they do in cost to
keep up that licensing server if they
decide to go ahead with things in this
manner.
Let me know what you think in the
comments down below. That's it for
today, and as always, I hope you learned
something. I'll see you in the next
video. Bye now.
>> We also have the duty not to infringe
[music] the IP rights in the process. It
is in fact the manufacturers who have
the relevant rights, not consumers.
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