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>> Hello camera. We can use headphones. Oh,

no. We don't need them.

>> Okay.

>> We don't What? Whatever you do.

>> We have to wear your sweet hat. I don't

want to [ __ ] it up. There you go.

>> Just got it. Look, we got an American

flag. We got a skull. We got camo. What

the [ __ ] else do you want? Are you

American or not?

>> Oh, nice, dude. You're all in for 250.

The 250th anniversary.

>> It's also the only socks I brought on

this trip somehow. So, I wear them every

day now.

>> You only brought one pair or one style?

>> No. One pair of socks and no underwear.

>> Oh god. I've done that before. We have

to wash your socks in the sink

>> with shampoo with hotel shampoo

>> and then wear them when they're wet.

>> And it's like I went on a run here. It

is muggy.

>> Oh yeah, baby.

>> Sweating my ass off.

>> That's the fear of this weekend at the

UFC. Um cuz it's east coast it gets very

muggy

>> in DC. So these guys are all working out

outside right now. I saw video of Aean

Zahabi working out outside and Ilia

Tapori is working out outside and

>> you know you have to feel that that

heavy heavy air. It changes things.

>> Oh yeah man. I remember when I was a kid

I went to the Olympic training center in

Colorado Springs.

>> I see those thunderstorms dude.

>> Oh yeah. We're [ __ ]

>> [ __ ] There is a a canopy that's over

the cage. They put a canopy over the

cage.

>> Well, if lightning hits that, that's not

good.

>> Well, if it hits the canopy, I think

we're okay.

>> I mean,

>> I think I'm more worried about a

terrorist attack than I am [ __ ]

lightning.

>> No, that's true.

>> But I probably should be more worried

about lightning. Um I actually have

friends that have been hit by lightning.

We do. Remy Remy got hit by lightning.

>> Yeah, for sure.

>> So, I know that was full.

>> I don't know anybody's been hit by a

terrorist attack.

>> Got hit the other day, I think,

>> by lightning. It was Yeah, we had you

crazy storms here, you know.

>> You playing golf?

>> No, but I was outside. I thought the

storm was over and I was out on my

balcony and I was like, "Wow, this is

cool."

>> Oh, that's not a good spot to be.

>> One hit. I'm 500 ft in the sky. I'm

already up there and then it it hit and

I started hearing sizzling near me. I'm

like, "Holy [ __ ] I got to get inside.

I'm

>> like electricity sizzling.

>> What the [ __ ] is that? Where is it?

>> Oh my god, that's so scary. That's such

a [ __ ] up way to go." Do you ever see

that one video where the guy is walking

down the street and he gets hit by

lightning? He wakes up, walks down the

street a little bit further. He's

recovering and he gets hit again.

>> Dude got hit by lightning twice in like

I don't know if it's time lapse or what.

I don't know how long he was out for cuz

it's like one of those ring cams that

catches him.

>> This guy got [ __ ] cooked twice.

>> You know you're having a bad day.

>> I forget what Remy said happened to him

after he got hit, but I remember his

hearing was [ __ ] up for a long time or

something. Something like that. Yeah, we

uh I was we do the mountains back home

like run them and there's we were up on

Diamond Peak, me and Tanner last year

and a storm, you know, kind of like the

weather report like having some clouds

or whatever. It wasn't supposed to be

thunderstorms, but you could hear kind

of growling and you're like, "God, is

that coming this way?" And it doesn't

have to be that close. I mean, I think I

think lightning can hit from 10 miles

away.

>> Really?

>> Yes, it can go that it can go sideways.

So anyway, if you see that building, you

should get off the top of a mountain,

right? Well, me and Tanner were up there

and we're still wanting to get to summit

and then bomb off. Well, we're up there

and he goes he goes, "Dad," he goes,

"Watch." And he had we had trekking

poles and he had them like this and they

were they were like ticking like

electricity.

>> Electricity was in his trekking poles.

>> Then we I said, "Let's get the [ __ ] off

this thing." And so we bombed off and

there's these kids down that were like

they said should we go up and I said I'd

wait a little bit and the girl's hair

was standing up.

>> Oh my god.

>> Oh my god. That's so crazy.

>> Yeah. It is that.

>> Yeah. So they this guy died in Florida

last year in what they call blue sky

lightning.

>> What?

>> Yeah. It can it jumped from several

miles away.

>> Wow.

>> You just stand on the beach. It was a

blue sky above. storm is near

>> and I think it can go I know I looked it

up after that cuz I was like well I need

to know I'm in the mountains all the

time.

>> His death nonetheless serves a grim mind

of Florida led the US in both lightning

fatalities 12 and strikes per square

mile 76.

Holy [ __ ]

>> By the way, did you see that guy in

Florida that uh he was run from the cops

and he got killed by an alligator?

>> No.

>> Did you see that one?

>> Uhuh.

>> Dude, it's body cam footage. The cops

got the gun out and he's he's like,

"Stop, stop, stop." The guy's running.

He's going in the water and all of a

sudden, boom.

>> Like, right.

>> I'd rather get shot.

>> I'd rather get shot. Rather get shot and

killed by a [ __ ] dinosaur. Oh my god.

>> You're going to get shot. You're the

bullet's going to hurt like [ __ ] You're

going to be in shock. You're going to

realize you're bleeding out. You're

going to have to say, "I wish I was a

better person. I'm going to miss my

family."

>> But that [ __ ] alligator is going to

take a while to kill you. It's going to

roll with you. is going to drag you

under the water. You're going to realize

you can't get free. You're going to try

to poke its eyes. It's not going to

work.

>> [ __ ]

>> It's going to be a miserable existence

till it's over.

>> Do you see that one video of a dude? He

got attacked by an alligator. Uh lost

his arm. So, it bit his [ __ ] arm off

and he made his way back home. So, he

they're they're like talking to him like

right when he got out of the swamp. and

he's got one arm and he he looked like

>> there's not a chance in hell he was

sober during any of this experience. He

looked like he had been meed up since

the [ __ ] 12th grade.

>> Oh my god.

>> This dude Yeah. This is the dude.

He

>> just [ __ ] lost his stump.

>> Yeah, that's where I

>> He wanted for three [ __ ] days with

one arm.

>> Oh my god.

>> Well, first of all, how do you not bleed

out?

>> I know. That's what I was going to say.

Keep pressure on that.

>> What did he say? What was he saying?

>> What was he saying?

>> On my right hand side. So I went to swim

and she got she got my forearm. So I

grabbed her like this and like she's

trying to roll but she snapped her head.

So So my arm went backwards like this

completely.

>> He says he fought for his life.

>> She drugged me under three times comes

in so important. He says he fought for

his life. I could just imagine them in

an editing bay.

>> Should I do that again? Is that good?

No.

>> I know. He says he fought for his life.

>> Yeah, we got that part with the no arm.

We I went ahead and assumed that

>> he [ __ ] wandered through alligator

and snakeinfested swamp for three

[ __ ] days.

>> Thanks for telling us what we need to be

believing here that

>> you know when I went alligator hunting

out there a few years ago. You know that

alligator that we shot that's in the

front.

>> Bro, they're everywhere. If you ever

want to come, it's really fun. You know,

I know you don't do much hunting outside

of bow hunting,

>> but they need to be killed. They're

they're vastly overpop populated,

>> but you can't do a bow.

>> You can, but it's

>> Yeah. Well, that's like everything.

>> It's pretty sketchy. But this this, you

know, these killed alligators with a bow

in Florida.

>> You You just got to catch them in the

right spot. You got to basically hit

them like right behind the head. And I

think you'd probably hit them with a

fixed blade, right?

>> Yeah, for sure.

>> Iron wheel or something.

>> There's You got to brain them. Yeah. So

there's like a bump back there. Then

it's like halfway in between the eye and

the bump. Something like that.

>> So you want to be like 20 yards [ __ ]

exit right in there.

>> For sure. The good thing about that, if

you [ __ ] up and just kind of ricochet,

it's going to be fine. You know what I

mean? It's like it's not making if you

go for the lungs and miss hit it in the

stomach, that's not good. It's going to

be pretty sick and miserable death. But

>> it probably still live. Those [ __ ]

things are such monsters. They're such

monsters. I was saying, you know, we've

killed bear up at Kip killed a bear up

at the rivets with three legs. I'm just

like,

>> how?

>> One of them will eat the other one's

leg.

>> They'll bite their [ __ ] legs off.

>> But like, how do you you know,

>> how do you survive?

>> Yeah, we have to get antibiotics for

like a hangail.

>> I think our uh whole biome is probably

all [ __ ] up from washing it all the

time.

>> Yeah, probably.

>> I mean, it completely makes sense,

right? It's like,

>> yeah,

>> animals don't seem to get a whole lot of

infections like we do, unless they're

farm animals,

>> right?

>> Or like occasionally, well, it happens

all the time in the rut, right? Like

when you're dressing an animal, you find

all these holes in the side of it that

are like [ __ ] I remember one time one

of the elk that we shot at Toahone had

his back leg was just filled with pus.

Like the whole back, it was all pus cuz

he had gotten stabbed. It's usually in

that back because usually they turn

because they know they're getting their

ass kicked and so it's in their hind

quarter. It's like the the dominant bull

gets a jab in before they go.

>> And you've seen those tahone bulls,

those 1100 lb [ __ ]

>> Imagine one of those stabbing you in the

head.

>> No. And also if you see antlers there

that are broke because they're so heavy.

>> Like there's that bone is so thick for

their antlers. If a bull's break,

imagine the force required to break

that. And imagine that going right up

your ass.

>> God, for my camera guy, that'd be a

dream. But for most of us now,

>> they find them, you know, with these

holes in them. Like when when you shoot

them and you find out like what they've

been through. Like no wonder why they

barely moved when they got hit with an

arrow.

>> Yeah.

>> They probably didn't even know. Like

when two bulls are fighting and then one

of them gets hit with an arrow, they

barely react.

>> No, they'd be like, "What? That what was

that fly landed on?"

>> That's crazy. They're just so just

locked into war.

>> Especially if you like get in between

the ribs and don't hit anything,

>> right? Just slices right through.

>> Just like that bull would be like, "Ow,

>> wait, what?

>> What was that? Nothing."

>> And all of a sudden, woo, I'm feeling

woozy.

>> Yeah.

>> Then it's over.

>> Did you find that video? See if you can

find the video of the guy with the body

cam footage getting killed by the

alligator.

>> Wasn't very good. Like, it's hard to see

it.

>> You can see a little bit though. I just

think it's exciting.

>> It's just

>> You love watching chaos on online.

>> I don't know why, but I do. Give me some

Put the headphones on there. See what

>> I like the music.

>> Okay,

>> so here it is. The cops's got his gun

out. Oh, this isn't a very good Yeah.

>> See, the cop's got his gun out and he's

like trying to think of what to do and

this dude's getting jacked.

>> Oh, there goes the alligator to him.

[ __ ]

>> Yeah. Oh, did you see that line of the

alligator?

>> Back that up a little bit so you can see

it. So, the dude's trying to swim away

and look at the alligator. Boom. That's

a wrap, son.

>> Did he put his hands up here?

>> I don't think so. I think he just So,

right there.

>> Back it up a little bit more. So, you

see the guy swimming away

>> on this one. Maybe.

>> What's that?

>> It's a different version.

>> Good Samar.

>> Oh, no. The same lady narrating.

>> That's when a gator

>> That's when a gator slammed right

towards him. That's not good.

>> Of his arms. I mean, it was a full-on

attack.

>> It was a fullon attack. Like as if what?

Halfway attack.

>> Oh, they were fighting.

>> It's a [ __ ] dinosaur.

>> There was another story

>> in Florida a few years back where a guy

was ch running from the cops. I think uh

it was a high-speed chase. Gets to a

bridge, stops the car, throws it in

park, jumps off the bridge, boom,

alligator gets him. Literally like

landed right on a [ __ ] alligator. But

that's the reality of the water. All the

fresh water in Florida is filled with

alligators. They have to check

Disneyland all the time or Disney World.

They have to check it all the time.

Remember a little kid got killed there a

few years ago?

>> Imagine you take your kid to [ __ ]

Disney World and it gets killed by a

dinosaur.

>> Rough. Whoa. And also it's like you know

how I don't know you have dogs but are

they ever around when you're eating and

like something falls on the ground?

They're always checking the ground.

Well, that's what alligators do in the

water. They're just sitting there just

chilling out. They hear a little splash.

They're like, "Oh, like a dog. Was that

a a crumb hitting the the floor at the

dinner table?" Exactly.

>> So, they over there and they'll just eat

whatever hit the water.

>> Especially if something seems like it's

struggling

opportunists.

>> Yeah. They're So, they're just chilling

just waiting for [ __ ] to hit the water,

which is that's what fishing is too. You

know, you see that the the flies

hatching, you try to match it, try to

put it on there, and like they're like,

"Okay, got one to hit the water." But

yeah, alligators are masters of taking

advantage of opportunity. And every once

in a while, some comes off a bridge and

hey,

>> big meal.

>> It's really shocking how many of them

there are in in the Everglades. It's

like, you know, I went uh I guess it was

three years ago, and when we were there,

it's like everywhere you look, you have

to look for an alligator. It's it's like

nothing I've ever seen. Like I I thought

it'd be hard to find them. I thought

like we'd go out there and you know, you

look around, you probably glass a

little, see eyeballs pop up. No, they're

[ __ ] all over the water.

>> Like how many would you see?

>> We saw 15, 20, maybe more. Maybe 30. You

see like uh some movement on the water

and then they dunk under and you're in

the [ __ ] swamp, man. It's sketchy as

[ __ ]

>> You know, the whole the whole

>> It's very weird. It's very weird because

you're like this is a mess. Yeah.

>> Like, oh, this is infested. Like you

you're infested by dinosaurs. And then

you go an hour and a half later, you're

in Miami having a steak, drinking a nice

pino noir. You know, you think you're in

civilization. You're you're [ __ ] a

half a day's drive from monsters,

>> an infested jungle filled with monsters.

>> And imagine if you weren't in a boat.

Like, what if what if you were just

somehow something happened to the boat?

>> Oh, you're [ __ ] Yeah.

>> What would you do if like the boat sank

out there?

>> Well, we weren't in a boat.

>> Okay.

>> We we drove out. We were with with

guides and we drove out in trucks

>> and they know like where the lake areas

are where the you know, it's very dense

out there. It's very thick. It's just

hot and muggy and

>> and these [ __ ] just boop.

>> You see them pop up. You see the

eyeballs pop up. You see some motion.

But you [ __ ] see them everywhere. And

then you look around at how big the

Everglades is and you go, "How many of

them are out here?"

>> Yeah.

>> Because it's not like we found the honey

spot, right? You know what I mean? It's

like the whole Everglades

>> and there when I was a kid, you know, I

lived down there in Florida when I was

uh 11 years old from 11 to 13. I lived

in Gainesville

>> and there's alligators back then, but

they were endangered

>> and so you you weren't allowed to kill

them and so they would kill people's

dogs and [ __ ] I remember this lady in

my neighborhood, her dog got jacked. She

was walking her dog by Lake Alice and it

just snatched her dog and took it away.

>> Jeez.

>> This is like the late '7s. And um we

were feeding them marshmallows. So you

go to the dock and you throw

marshmallows and alligators would come

up and eat the marshmallows.

>> And it was, you know, it was weird. It

was like kind of cool that they're

there. Freaks you out a little bit, but

they weren't dangerous,

>> right?

>> Cut to all these years later now because

no one hunted them cuz they basically

were making shoes out of them back in

the day. They almost hunted them to

extinction and uh they should probably

start that again.

>> They probably we need to bring alligator

shoes

>> like back in like the 70s like that was

the cool shoes like in the pool halls

where I used to play pool like the old

guys would talk about how a guy was

really dressed up. He had his gators on.

He looked good. He had a nice suit. He

had his gators on. His gators like

>> I got gator boots.

>> Alligator shoes.

>> Luc Casey. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Gator boots seem to be a different

thing because it kind of almost makes

sense cuz like al like you get boots

that are made out of like snake skin and

ostrich and like that's kind of a cowboy

boot thing but

>> alligator dress shoes is very you got

your gators on like very hard to get

polish it nice black. Oh yeah,

>> remember?

>> I love that,

>> bro. I got to apologize to Ric Flair. He

got uh scammed.

>> So, some some person reached out and

said that they were representing this

podcast and they were going to h that he

was going to come on the podcast.

>> I think uh Tim Dylan, this happened with

him, too. Um it didn't happen with him

where they got him, but

>> they send you an email saying that

they're going to have you come on a

podcast, but they need your bank

information. Yeah, they'll pay you.

Sometimes it's like 3,000 bucks because

I've got those, too.

>> And what it really is is they're just

going to empty your bank account

>> and uh it's just a scam. So, if you get

an email like that from me, it's not

real. Sorry, Ric Flair.

>> So, Ric Flair, I don't know if they he

lost his money, but Tim Dylan, they

tried to get him on uh Amy Polar show.

So, it's that's the scam. The scam was

they reached out to he talked about it

on his podcast. They reached the this

scammer reached out said, "I'm

representing the Amy Polar Show. we

would love to have you on. And he was

like, that doesn't seem like that would

be a good thing for Amy Polar.

>> I don't think I'm a good guest. He was

like, he was like, I don't think this is

real. And then it says, you know, we

need your bank account information. And

so many people just like don't think

about it or they're boomers or

>> well it they make it seem legit cuz I

know um Pat McAfee I got an email from

them about coming on the show and I'd

been kind of communicating with some of

those guys before and so I'm like maybe

I mean for me it's like a big deal like

ESPN and Pat McAfee he's like to me he

reminds me of you. He just kind of does

what says whatever he wants does if the

bosses say whatever he's like [ __ ] off.

I I just love that unfiltered like true

thoughts and

>> he's a guy that's got [ __ ] you money

that says [ __ ] you. That's what I love.

>> It's just it's beautiful. So I mean I

celebrate that's that's a you know first

amendment in his glory right there.

>> And he seems like a genuine good dude.

>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't know him but it's

like

>> I don't know him either, but when you

hear a guy talk enough

>> Yeah. Yeah. You can assume or you can

like put the pieces puzzle together but

and they've wore my stuff on there. So,

I'm like, "Oh, maybe this is real,

right?" And

>> so, the guy I asked at uh he's just a AO

uh he's just a great guy, but he uh he

said, "No, it's not not legit." But they

had me cuz it was like it almost seemed

real.

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>> Yeah, somebody asked me like, hey, you

know, they said, well, they said, uh,

can you do anything about it?

Unfortunately, I can't. Like there's

nothing you could do other than tell

people it's a scam.

>> I don't want to tell you how I get

guests. I don't want to like give up the

process. But uh I have a guy and I have

this guy reach out to people and you

know I don't want to talk too much about

it because I don't want people to

imitate that and pretend that that's how

they do it. But if you get an email

>> my guy here

>> Yeah. If you get an email asking for

your bank account information, it's not

me. No. And it's probably not Anna

Ferris or Amy Polar or Tim Dylan or any

of those other people. It's all

[ __ ]

>> No,

>> just scumbags out there,

>> unfortunately.

>> If you say you have some elk meat you'll

share. That might be real.

>> Nope.

>> Oh,

>> I'll share with friends and family.

That's it, dude. I giving it out to

weirdos.

>> But, uh, you're bringing some bear meat.

>> I know. And dude, you're I said you're

in trouble. We got

>> You got a lot of notes.

>> We got notes. I got I got [ __ ] we're

going to discuss today.

>> They're like I had a scientist on

yesterday. He had less notes.

>> Less. I know. I'm I'm ready. Well, we

had some fun.

>> First of all, before we go any further,

what's going on with your tooth? Why you

got a gold tooth? I love it.

>> Yeah, it's uh Well, it was it's kind of

a joke, but I've been obsessed

with like perfect teeth, right? And

>> that's like Adam Green shoes always

busting your balls.

>> And you know, I did like the the white

strips and all this other [ __ ] And like

I always cared about what just probably

cared too much. So now I don't care what

I look like. But um

>> what what changed?

>> Uh I don't know. I I've just like been

playing the game too long. Now it's just

like I'm just done. And and the game's

not over unfortunately. Even though I'm

saying I don't want to play anymore.

Game still goes on. So it's like I'm

still part of it. But anyway, I was

getting this. Okay. Long story short, um

I had I broke this in high school. So I

had a fake two since high school. And uh

yeah, this is like long story. Kissing

this girl, basketball, hit him in the

back of the head, broke the tooth.

Anyway,

>> he broke the teeth on her teeth.

>> Yeah. So, she had pieces of teeth in her

lip. Um

>> Oh, that's crazy.

>> Oh, yeah. It was Yeah, it was uh Jack

Dero did that. But anyway, um we uh so I

got it fixed, got a few different

iterations of it, finally found one that

looked good. Well, I go in there. I

hadn't been to the dentist in forever

because I just what hate going. And they

said, "Oh, you got a a a cavity under

that." what composite is what it was

called. And I'm like, okay, cool. So, we

got to take it off, fix a cavity, then

you get whole another one. And I'm like,

whatever. Um, so I go back in there and

next next appointment they take it off,

no cavity. But now we just have this

like whittleled down regular tooth just

like a like a post of a tooth.

>> So, because they removed the cavity

>> because they there was no cavity.

>> There was no cavity. Jesus Christ.

>> They thought on the X-ray there was. So

they had the the anyway the cap or the

composite's gone. So they said, "Well,

you need to go and match the color of

your teeth for your new fa fake tooth

and spring in in Springfield. Swing by

this Springfield um whatever they do

there for for dentistry." So I go in

there and they said uh the girl there

goes, "Hey, my husband Nate makes some

really cool gold teeth. He does a really

good job. Do you want a gold one?" And

uh I was like, "Wait." And so she's

like, "We'll do a white one, too, but a

gold one might just be fun." And then

I'm like, "Yeah, it'd be fun." So I told

Trace, "I'm just gonna do it just a day

or two." So this has been months now.

>> You going to keep it?

>> I don't know. I kind of like it.

>> I kind of like it, too.

>> I kind of like it. It's like everybody

>> [ __ ] it.

>> You know, everybody's got regular teeth.

Nobody's got gold teeth or something.

>> Not anymore. It was a thing back in the

day. Remember Mike Tyson had a gold

tooth for a while. Well, this is like my

savings account cuz I figure that I'm

going to lose everything cuz I'm such a

[ __ ] But I'll still have this. I can

still

>> pull that sucker out. You can buy a

cheeseburger.

>> Yeah. If I get in a bind, right? It's

like, hey, well, I got this.

>> I have one crown. I have one fake tooth

back here. I cracked one of my mers. I

had a root canal and then um it like so

then they had to put like a crown on it

and then it cracked. And so now I got to

get another one cuz I got a little piece

of it missing. I think I'm going to get

a gold one.

>> Nice.

>> Get a gold one right here.

>> Do it. Do it.

>> I'm gonna Now you inspired me.

>> It's Also, it's in the back so you won't

see it all the time till I

>> until I give you a big cheese.

>> Yeah. Well,

>> I'm going to get it. I'm copying you.

>> Good. When you're cracking up, you

always do a big smile. So So that'll be

when people see it. That'll be fun.

>> Fortunately, I laugh a lot. I know.

>> I live a happy life.

>> Yeah, you do. You're You're crushing it

lately.

>> Oh, just keep keep your foot on the gas.

>> Same old stuff, right? I can't believe I

look at your guests and it's just like

nonstop, dude. It's like it's people see

like all your success. You'd think most

people would be like, "Okay, I'm good.

I'll you foot off the gas." You don't.

>> No,

>> you keep I mean, you you work your ass

off.

>> Well, you very rarely get an opportunity

in life to do anything like what I can

do. And very few human beings get this

opportunity. And I feel insanely

fortunate and also um very responsible

like I'm responsible for this whole

thing. I have to keep it rolling. I know

people are addicted to it. They love it.

They want the variety. They want

scientists. They want guys like you.

They want athletes and fighters. They

want all this [ __ ] They want to hear

all these different people talk, all

these different perspectives. And it's a

huge obligation, you know. And I feel

like connected to all these people. I

know I don't talk to them all the time.

I don't know what to say, but I feel it.

I know it and I'm dedicated. So, I just

keep my foot on the gas. I never I never

say, "Oh, I can't believe I have to do

this. Oh, I can't believe I have to show

up." I just

>> Yeah. I always try to reset every day

and go, "God, I'm so lucky." It's so

fortunate. And then, you know, when you

have that opportunity, I think it's a

terrible tragedy, a travesty to not

capitalize on it, to not like make the

most out of it because I know that it's

like very few human beings in the world

Well, I mean, how many people have ever

had the number one podcast? It's always

gone like back and forth. I've had it

for like six years now. Yeah. Six or

seven. Might be seven years now.

>> And it's like

>> I'm not I'm not keeping my foot off the

gas. I'm going to do exactly what I'm

doing. I'm going to do it my best. I'm

going to keep doing it until the [ __ ]

wheels fall off. That's like people have

said like with bow hunting and stuff

like if you you know you work your ass

off to to get this place where you're

respected, right? And then there's going

to be people that want your position.

And like with your attitude, my attitude

too is like

>> [ __ ] come get it.

>> Yeah. Come get it.

>> Come try to take it cuz I'm working my

ass off still.

>> We were hanging out somewhere and you

said one of the coldest things to this

dude. This dude was uh we were all just

[ __ ] around. I I really even forget

who it was cuz it didn't matter. And he

said, "Uh, yeah, and after that I'm

going to challenge you to a race." And

you go, "Good luck with that. It was so

cold." You go, "Yeah." Like, you didn't

even remotely take it seriously. It was

like a fiveyear-old saying they're going

to kick my ass. Like, okay, good luck

with that.

>> Yeah. I mean, you get you get confident

when it's something you do like

>> Yeah. further down the line than

anybody. Yeah. And so if you're going to

take my spot,

>> right?

>> I mean, this been a grind, dude. 40

years.

>> Yeah. The whole taking the spot thing is

so stupid because everybody's on their

own little journey. And you could look

at it in terms of I'm going to take that

guy's spot. And maybe that's your

motivation.

And uh that's cool and all that, but

there's a negative attached to that

motivation. If you don't have an actual

personal beef with someone and you hate

them just because they're in a position

that you wish you are, you're wasting

energy. I know this sounds like very

hippie, but it's true. like you're that

energy instead should be celebrating

that there's people like that out in the

world that do inspire you and are out

there pushing themselves to like extreme

limits and just and excelling at

whatever dis whether it's [ __ ]

playing guitar or doing standup comedy.

You should look at those people like,

"Wow, what are they doing that I can do

to make myself more successful or better

or what where where can I get to a

point? How can I get to a point where

I'm like them?"

>> Mhm.

>> But most people don't do that. Most

people like, "Fuck that guy. That guy

[ __ ] sucks. This sucks. And [ __ ] it,

he's a [ __ ] and he's a this and he's

using steroids and he's [ __ ] lying

about how many miles he runs." And it's

there's always going to be people like

that. And I'm telling my message to the

haters.

>> I I was a hater when I was a kid. I was

100% a hater. 100%. Like all the other

people like when I was fighting,

everybody else was a [ __ ]

>> They were all [ __ ] unless they were

weren't in my weight division. If they

weren't in my weight division, then I

could celebrate him. But everybody in my

weight division was a [ __ ] That guy's

I'm going to [ __ ] that guy up. He's got

nothing. I I could never celebrate

people. Even like national champions,

people with the I couldn't celebrate

them,

>> right?

>> It's a waste. It's a waste of energy.

and you get more energy out of looking

at what they do well and analyzing it

and being inspired by it. It's a hard

struggle because your ego wants you to

compare yourself to them and find flaws

in them. You know, [ __ ] that guy, [ __ ]

this and [ __ ] that.

>> It's a waste of energy. You have to be

selfish with your energy. Your energy is

very critical. It's everything in life.

Everything you do in life is dependent

upon you having energy. And for you to

waste your energy in some stupid

egodriven direction just because you're

too weak to recognize like, "Oh, this

guy can kick my ass. Oh, this guy uh

could shoot a bow further than me. Oh,

this guy runs way farther than I can

run. Oh, this guy's way better at

playing guitar than me. What the [ __ ]

can I do to get where he's at?" Yeah,

>> you got to just that's a it's a trap

because not only does it take away

energy, it takes away progress.

>> It takes away energy from you investing

in you being better in the future.

>> It's bad all around.

>> Yeah.

>> There's no good to it at all.

>> No, I I I agree with that. And it's like

that that energy is a resource that we

have to protect. I think that when you

talk about like you talk about all the

outliers that you you have this

conversation with or sit across the

table from you and I think your attitude

and how you look at things like in that

lens that makes people want to come on

like you said you listed all these

people and people want to hear what they

have to say. People want to hear what

they have to say to you because you have

a way of drawing out uh more information

in a different way because your attitude

is so pure. I think like even if you

didn't believe what you said, it would

still if if you just said like I want to

be positive, but your questions were all

negative like in tone or like

confrontational in tone. People wouldn't

want to be on here like they want to be

on here now. You being positive and

looking at things like how can I get

better? How can I grow? How can we all

learn and and u um get better from this?

That's the lens that you put the

information that comes out through these

microphones out into the world, which

means people are attracted to you.

People are attracted to the guests you

have. People are attracted to the show.

And so, yeah, that energy we even though

even if we don't admit it, we're

attracted to it.

>> You know what I mean? You seek it out.

And um I know when I'm I like to hear

people paint a picture of something that

gives me hope. Mhm.

>> I don't want to hear about how [ __ ] up

everything is all the time,

>> right?

>> I want hope. How can I have hope?

Because hope gives me purpose and I'm

like, "Okay, I can do this. I can I got

get to work and this will this will pay

off."

>> Yeah.

>> So, I I think it's like it's more

complicated

than we than we think, but there's a

reason why you're number one and have

been number one, and it's your attitude

and it's it's how you speak to people.

It's that little that it's also I got in

really early, right? So I got in at like

2009

and there was hardly anybody doing it

back then. Yeah. So you could you could

also I wasn't as famous back then. So

you could do it for a long time before

anybody noticed you were doing it so you

could get good at it.

>> So you could hone your craft,

>> right? You didn't have a bunch of

comments that you had to sift through.

You didn't have to You just did it.

>> If you started now, maybe you wouldn't

be number one.

>> Oh, I wouldn't be. You know what I mean?

>> There's so many there's I mean how many

podcasts are there now?

>> A lot.

>> Yeah. Like

>> what's the number?

>> 10 mill 5 million.

>> Check those like seven or eight million.

>> It probably keeps growing every week

because everybody thinks they can do it

because everybody can talk.

>> Well, and and the people starting now,

they might be you down the road.

>> Oh yeah, for sure.

>> There might be some, you know,

>> Well, they'll be incredible

conversationalist that

>> they'll be them. They'll be a different

thing than me, but they'll be amazing at

it.

>> But you had because you had this insight

or you know, you saw Tom Green or

whoever it was that like, oh, maybe I

could do that. You started this process

of this decades of honing your craft to

where it is now and now you've been on

top for six, seven years, right? And

it's just because of all those reps that

you did. It's It's no different than

anything we always talk about.

>> It's everything.

>> It's reps.

>> Yeah. Everything is reps. It's just like

you want to get good at something,

>> keep fail, keep doing it. Archery is

reps. Pool is reps. Martial arts are

reps. It's all reps. It's all

experience. And it's all like being like

super focused on what you're trying to

do, whatever it is.

>> Yeah. I think like I even think of, you

know, I love Sean Ryan and he's has an

incredible podcast, but I I I get I get

why this is happening. He's pretty down

kind of on a lot right now just with

government with Israel with Epstein with

all the which is by design almost they

want us to be hopeless and I I don't

want to be a conspiracy theorist but

they do want us hopeless so because we

can be controlled but Sean his podcast

lately has taken more I don't want to

say dark because it's more real but it's

like it's darker so I just think that

attracts

less people in a different type of

person than yours. You have every reason

to be dark about things and you are

sometimes, but that's not the theme of

you.

>> Well, I think these it's like first of

all, people that aren't comedians,

they're very they're limited

>> in in what they can talk about and the

way they can talk about things. You

know, being a comedian is there's a

little bit of a safety net. You could

always like, "Yeah, what the [ __ ] I'm a

comedian. We're [ __ ] around."

>> You get a little get got get a little

you can write it off a little bit. It's

also there's that's real in terms of

like uh another layer of conversation.

Like there's a layer of conversation

that is commonly known as talking [ __ ]

And talking [ __ ] is a thing that you do

where you're with your boys and you say

things that you don't really mean

because they're funny and you make each

other laugh. You talk about how many

dicks you sucked last night. You know

what? Why is your mouth so sore? You

know, like you you [ __ ] around. You say

things. you you're silly. You know, you

talk about, oh, you know, it's hard

doing all this meth, you know, you don't

you're not really doing meth, right?

There's you're you're not really having

gay sex. You're [ __ ] around. And when

you can't [ __ ] around, there's a whole

realm of the conversation that's

missing.

>> Yeah, for sure.

>> And there's a whole like

like get out of jail pass. Like, let's

have fun. Let's loosen up a little here.

You can't loosen up. You're serious,

>> right? And then where does the

conversation go? back to the serious

part which changes it.

>> It's also the serious stuff is what gets

engagement.

>> Yeah.

>> And that's a little bit of a trap where

if you only focus on the bad of the

world and it's not saying you should

ignore the bad of the world. You

certainly shouldn't. But if you only

focus on the bad of the world,

>> it's kind of a trap

>> because

>> it'll [ __ ] your head up too. You're just

swimming in negativity all the time.

>> That's what I see Shawn that's a feeling

I've got with Shawn lately. Whereas with

the differences with you, there's a

reset. There's always this reset back to

good. The message is good.

>> Yeah. I think

>> and I don't think you I don't I don't

think you that's not by design. That's

just who you are.

>> Yeah. No, it's not by design. It's just

uh that's how I think it's like you can

only dwell on negativity so much. Most

of your day is not negative. In fact,

yeah, it's there's things that you need

to be aware of and you need to be

prepare for them. And

>> the problem is is no, it's not. But our

voices are oftentimes negative. So it's

easy I if like if you get in that trap

where you're listening to negative and

you're thinking negative. It's a lot of

negative dude. Yeah.

>> So it's like knowing that you know I can

go down a negative rabbit hole pretty

easy. I try to avoid

waiting in that.

>> Well sometimes it's like you just get

fed up. You're like where the [ __ ] are

these Epstein files? Who the [ __ ] is

this? Why is this redacted? Where is who

the [ __ ] killed JFK? Like, come out with

it. What the [ __ ] Who [ __ ] killed

Charlie Kirk for real? Like, what is

that? Why is that [ __ ] story so

clouded in mystery? And why did they

pave over the [ __ ] ground right after

the the shooting? What the [ __ ] is going

on there?

>> See, now you're making me in a bad mood.

>> That's But that it's easy to do. It's

easy to do. It's easy to get locked up

in there.

>> Do you see Do you see my notes? Look at

my two on the very top.

>> What does it say? Stay positive. Be

nice. And what does that other one say?

You have terrible handwriting.

>> Be positive.

>> Oh, be nice. Be positive. Well, your

handwriting is terrible.

>> It is.

>> You should be a doctor.

>> But no, I have to remind myself like cuz

I if you start mentioning those things

that you just did

>> Oh, it's hard,

>> dude. I will [ __ ] lose my [ __ ]

because I'm so pissed.

>> I know.

>> It should be. And we we all we're all

pissed. We were all,

>> you know, we all thought that, you know,

all that stuff was going to be released

right after the election. It's going to

we're going to drain the swamp and find

all the pedophiles. Well, the the first

term was more like that. That's what

gave me hope for this term. The first

term there was some draining the swamp

going on. I felt then we had the Biden

disaster and now the second term has

been I don't even know what this is. I

don't even know what it is.

>> Well, it would have been a whole lot

different for first of all if we didn't

bomb Iran. I feel like we bombed him the

first time, we were good. The second

time was like even the first time I was

like what the [ __ ] are we doing?

>> Yeah. And then when they were saying

like, "This is it. The the the

escalation's over. We're going to work

this out." Like, "Oh,

>> yeah."

>> And the second time when we bombed him,

I was like, "Oh, [ __ ] great." Mhm.

>> Now, and the most people don't want it.

That's the real problem. Most people in

the country don't want it. Now, look,

I'm no [ __ ] foreign policy expert. I

don't know what's going on over there,

but I do know that all the people I know

that really support Israel above

everything else, they're [ __ ] super

happy about it. Mhm.

>> And I'm like, but all the people I know

that are like America first and or

people that are like no new wars that

really thought that we're going to

change things and this is all just for

money. We're not going to sacrifice

soldiers for [ __ ] money. Those people

are all upset. I don't know really

what's going on though. That's the

problem. And uh I I really wish I

understood Iranian politics more and the

the Iran Iranian military structure

because it seems like that's super

[ __ ] complicated. like they've been

preparing to be attacked like this

forever. And so they have like all these

layers of control. Like when this guy

gets taken out, new guys are like ready

to fill their spot. And then when we're

negotiating with the new guy, Israel

kills them. Like it's like the [ __ ] is

going on?

>> And then what happened yesterday? They

captured like 20 oil tankers.

>> Oh, did they? I didn't even see that.

>> Yeah, there was some I don't know. It

might be [ __ ] I just read it very

quickly on the toilet in one of the rare

weak moments where I traveled to X.

>> Yeah, it's uh

>> I mean, boy, I've been so healthy

lately. Last few months just staying off

of [ __ ] Instagram.

>> Really?

>> Staying off of Twitter, just not reading

anything.

>> Yeah,

>> they're not anything. But Instagram

started funneling me schizophrenics.

>> Oh,

>> I don't know how I follow one

schizophrenic. My name is Dolores. I am

the the the real granddaughter of JFK.

The gold that's in the basement is all

mine. They're trying to stuff [ __ ]

inside my vagina. They wake me up in the

middle of the night. Like crazy people.

Not just one, but like a whole [ __ ]

series of them. And I started getting

those a couple of weeks ago. And uh

again, I might spend like 10, 15

minutes, but it's all schizophrenic

people. I'm like, I got to get off of

this.

>> There's no reason.

>> It's interesting.

>> It's crazy.

>> That's what gets you hooked.

>> I got this one lady. She she uh was is a

she was a hooker and she's a crackhead

and she thinks everyone's a man. Like so

she she'll show photos of all these

different people. That's a [ __ ] man.

She's just she's just [ __ ] out to

lunch. One guy thinks he's the rightful

president of the United States and he

wears like this dirty old suit and you

can look at his eyes like he's out

there. The dude's gone. He lives in a

completely different dimension than we

do

>> and he's on Instagram.

I start watching like sometimes street

fights.

>> Oh, I watch a lot of those.

>> There's a lot of those out there. Or the

joke the pranks or the jokes or pets.

It's like

>> pets are cool.

>> And then it's just like

>> but they it's just a trap. It just keeps

you there

>> and then an hour's gone and you're like,

what did I do for an hour?

>> It's just terrible for you. But since

I've been really good about it, I've

just so much healthier when I take like

full days like days off.

>> I feel so much better. And I'm like,

remember when we were in Hawaii? We we

went to Hawaii a few years back and we

went bow hunting and for Axis deer on

Lai and uh I broke my phone. I don't

know if you remember this, but my phone

just started calling people. I'd be

like, "Look at this. This is crazy." I'd

hang up and start calling a new person.

Hang up. So, I had to get a new phone.

It took like three days. And

>> those are like three of the happiest

days of my life.

>> Yeah.

>> And and I'm like, "Oh, I should just get

rid of my phone." I was thinking that,

but I was like, "Oh, I can't wait for

till my phone gets here." Well, there's

stuff where it's really handy is taking

pictures of cool stuff.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> And capturing those memories. That's

>> Yeah. It's

>> And if you have a question. Yeah. I love

it for because I've always have a

question about something. I love that

Siri now you could just press Siri and

ask it a question like how many minutes

are in a month and it'll just tell you

like right like you'd be driving on the

car, you have a question, just press a

button and it gives you the answer. It's

[ __ ] nuts.

>> How many times did you have a question

you're just like I'll probably never

figure that out. Exactly. But now no

question goes

>> unanswered.

>> It's literally instantaneous,

>> you know, and uh you know, I'll use

perplexity all throughout the day to

just ask it questions cuz I'm just

driving around or I'm sitting at home

and I'm like, I wonder how that

happened. And just now, you know, like

instantaneously.

>> Yeah.

>> But the dealing with all the people

stuff,

>> that's that's where I checked out. I'm

like, I'm not interested in that. I

don't like it's like if you get a bowl

of soup and there's little pieces of

meat, but most of the soup is [ __ ]

>> All right, I would recommend not eating

that soup.

>> And that's what social media is like.

It's like I get some meat out of it here

and there. I get some interesting

stories about science and some new

discovery from the James Webb telescope.

Like, whoa, this is [ __ ] cool. And

it'll send me down a nice rabbit hole

where I'm like studying things and

getting excited about things. And then

I'll just deal with some [ __ ] cooks

and and crazy people and [ __ ] and

grifters and people that are mad that

people are white and people that are mad

that people are black and like oh

[ __ ] Christ.

>> It's exhausting.

>> It's too much.

>> It's exhausting. Yeah.

>> It's just it's just eating soup with

[ __ ] in it. Yeah.

>> It's just like it's not worth it.

>> Speaking of which, you brought in some

of that bear. Grab some of that, son.

So,

>> and so a lot of people are of the

opinion that black bear is not an edible

meat, and that is that is incorrect.

>> I've got a grizzly cooler here full of

all sorts of

>> people can't hear you unless you're on

that microphone.

>> Okay. Um,

>> give me some.

>> So, also this

>> No one can hear that either. You got to

get to the microphone.

>> Also, this

>> Put that thing down and have a seat.

>> Oh, there we go.

>> So, do you know who Casey Brooks is?

I've heard of the name.

>> So he killed a world record elk.

>> That's right. That giant. That thing is

crazy.

>> So he does this is like super hot stuff.

>> Oh,

>> here's what it's called. Everything you

need to know about Chilan

whatever. See

>> everything you know need to know about.

Well, it's all worn out.

>> I know. It's maybe on the other page.

>> But mighty Chilean chili.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. So it's a type of chili.

>> Yeah. You put that on like when you're

cooking steaks.

>> Where's that knife, Jamie? You got

here's one.

>> Thank you.

>> Look at that.

>> Oh, sweet. Oh, look at that [ __ ] elk,

man. Oh my god. Nuts.

>> That thing is literally nuts. What was

the score on that?

>> It was like 386 or something.

>> No, 486.

>> Or no, 486.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Like almost getting close to 500.

>> Yeah.

>> Wow. This smells strong.

>> Does it?

>> Oh my god.

>> Yeah.

>> So, these are the chilies. Oh, so this

is uh

>> Yeah. He said you don't need much.

>> It says

>> what did it say? 480.

>> It says sprinkle this [ __ ] on

everything.

>> Okay. Yeah.

>> This is cool.

>> Yeah. So I I brought And also like

>> Do you know his son? His son is a really

good elk caller. I mean I don't know. I

know.

>> Oh, he makes calls.

>> Yeah. We don't usually mess around with

that.

>> Um I learned how to you do these just

last year.

>> His son is Bo Brooks.

>> I learned how to make a female el cuz I

had a little one that I blow on. So I

never learned how to use a read.

>> Yeah. the mouth read.

>> I definitely don't know how to make a

elk set with a tube. I'm [ __ ]

terrible.

>> Well, let me see that knife real quick.

My Yeah, this is the old packout skinner

from Montana knife.

>> But here's the good stuff right here.

So, we got some of this.

Tell me what you think of this.

>> I've had it the last time you brought it

from the same um

>> No, this is from this whites up in

Portland. And this is Ronnie. Ronnie's

the man, dude. Portland, Oregon has a

good wild game.

>> Yeah, I think it's more like Gresian

>> processor,

>> but it's so good.

>> Oh, that is good.

>> Tell me what you think of that.

>> That's fantastic.

>> Yeah, that Thank you, Ronnie. And then

this is uh

>> no tchinosis, right?

>> Tchinosis free.

>> Then this is I mean,

>> have you ever tested yourself for

trinosis? See if you have it. You might

already have it.

>> There's some bear jerky, too.

>> You might have it and ignored it.

>> So, the the jerky is so good. And then

also like this says Whites on it right

here. Whites country meats. So we got

sausage.

>> Oh, you made breakfast sausage.

>> Yeah. It's so good.

>> Nice.

>> Um and then we got some rendered bare

fat right here.

>> Brought you that. So you can cook with

that.

>> Oh, it's dark.

>> Yeah.

>> Why is it so dark?

>> I don't know.

>> Um

that's crazy.

>> Yeah.

>> Clay Nukem gave me some.

>> Did he? Yeah. Okay. Have you ever used

it?

>> Yeah, I cooked uh steaks with it.

>> Okay. It's great for searing steaks, you

know, just like even beef tallow. Yeah.

But it gives it a different flavor.

>> For sure. Definitely. So, he he did a

It's like And also like the the bear in

the spring, their fat is a little

different. So, it's it just reacts

differently like for make the pepperoni

and and rendering the fat. It just

reacts a little differently because

they've just come out of hibernation up

there. This is one of the big bear I

just killed.

>> And uh yeah, so it's just perfect timing

for I guess rendering fat and making

sausage. I was watching those videos

that Jen was making from bear camp.

>> Yeah.

>> Where she smoked that bear for like 24

hours.

>> Yeah.

>> So good.

>> God, it looked insane.

>> It looked like so good. They're like

she's like a gourmet chef now with bear.

>> Yeah. And then they had the meat church

guy up there this last week. Yeah.

>> And um so they were like, you know, bear

meat when you put a whole back ham on

the Trager. So she

>> she let it soak marinate for four days,

right? And I saw people saying, "Oh, if

you did shoe leather for four days, it'd

be good." Whatever. I'm just telling you

what what it was. Four days, then 20

hours of a slow cook on the Trager. Best

meat you've ever had. Just like

incredible. That's bear. And you know,

there's like people talk about the

settlers back in the day, they would eat

bear and just kill deer for hides to

make clothing because bear was superior

meat. So people have fallen into this

trap of like believing that bare meat

isn't good and it's amazing.

>> Well, it's because of Yogi.

>> Yeah.

>> Yogi [ __ ] us

>> probably.

>> Yeah. Yogi and the the one that tells

you not to start fires.

>> Who's that guy?

>> Smokey.

>> Smokey. Smokey the bear. Yogi.

>> Yeah,

>> they [ __ ] us.

>> Yeah, they did.

>> Then Disney. Disney [ __ ] us. You know,

if it wasn't for those um

anthropomorphizations of animals where

they turned them into sweet, you know,

beautiful creatures that talk to you.

>> Yeah.

>> We would have a completely different

idea of animals and be a much more

realistic idea of animals

>> for sure.

>> Which I think most hunters have. You

love them, you respect them, but

>> they all have to be managed.

>> I sent Whitney Cummings a video that

they got in um Santa Monica the other

day uh of a mountain line in someone's

backyard. big [ __ ]

>> just laying in the grass in this dude's

backyard in Santa Monica, man.

>> That's

>> Yeah, there I mean I don't know if you

know anymore, but

>> um I can't eat too much. People get

annoyed.

>> Oh yeah, it's true.

>> It's good though.

>> It's a That's a jalapeno cheddar.

>> How's it taste? Can you taste it?

>> The one the first one I had was jalapeno

cheddar. Yeah. It's [ __ ] great.

>> It's really good.

>> So good. Yeah.

>> Yeah. And I know what people saying. Oh,

you can make anything. Look at that.

That's the cat in the backyard.

>> Oh, man.

>> [ __ ] nuts, man. Look at his eyes.

Yeah,

>> [ __ ] you, man. [ __ ] you.

>> Yeah, it's uh

>> Meanwhile, they built a stupid bridge

for them and it's uh way over budget.

It's over hund00 million now for the

stupid [ __ ] bridge so they can cross.

We have to make sure that the monsters

can get across the highway safety.

>> I am of a completely different opinion.

I say, put one of those [ __ ] big ass

grills on your car like I have on my

Land Cruiser and let's hope we get a few

of them

>> so I don't kill people's dogs.

>> Mhm.

>> Look, it's right there

>> in the middle. Yeah, it's 14. This just

knocked it unfort.

>> That is bananas. Look where it is. Like

look how dense.

>> Look how dense the housing is there.

There's a mountain line right there.

>> And they think a mountain lion's going

to go find this bridge.

>> Well, they they probably will eventually

find the bridge.

>> I know.

>> But there's a bunch of retards that'll

still make their way across the highway

and they're supposed to get hit. That's

That's nature.

>> Yeah.

>> It's figure it out.

>> Figure it out

>> or die.

>> Yeah. Figure it out or die. There's too

many of them. They they're so

unrealistic about their mountain line

numbers.

>> Yeah,

>> there's way too many of them. They're

all over California because they don't

manage them.

>> That's what we talked Yeah, we talked

about that last time. And it's like I

just wonder what is, you know, what's

the goal? Because now, you know, I wore

the shirt today because now Public Land

is again back in the crosshairs. I don't

know if you saw that.

>> Yeah. What is going on?

>> This Mike Lee guy.

>> Yeah, that same guy.

>> Same [ __ ] guy from he he's trying to

like Utah guy, right?

>> The Utah guy. Um,

>> so right now it's like there's this this

bill that was going to be introduced. It

was like talking about wildfires

essentially. Um, but it's like uh it's

what he's done is he's tied in this

public land piece to it. Well, like they

always do. There's always these other

provisions tied in with all these bills.

Right. Right.

>> And uh you don't really know what you're

agreeing to or what you're not. Um, but

he he put in this uh roadless area

section because there's 400 or 45

million acres of roadless area that he

wants access to. Basically,

they're not saying this. They're saying

for some other reason, I think. Oh,

here's what they said. We have so many

acres of of roadless area that to fight

wildfires, we need roads. Okay. They

don't care about fighting wildfires.

It's resource extraction

>> or development, right?

>> Maybe development, but development's a

tough cell in a lot of those wilderness

areas. But what's not a tough

>> That's what they tried with this.

Remember remember the affordable housing

like oh just the areas

>> they tried to say that's what it was

that was supposedly affordable housing

which like years ago I went back and

talked to Jason Chafus. He was uh he was

a representative there in Utah. And I

went back there and spoke to him and be

at that time it was about uh surplus

acreage. So there's three million

surplus acres nobody's using.

>> Someone told me that has something to do

with the Mormon religion.

>> That the Mormon religion has a

philosophy about selling land that's

very different than our philosophy. It

might public land.

>> I'm not and I think

>> somebody told me that. See if there's

any reality to that that the Mormons

almost have like a mandate to try to

sell land.

>> Mhm.

>> I don't know if that makes any sense.

This is not my thought. Someone told me

this and I was like, "Wait, what?" And I

don't think I ever looked it up,

>> right? That I do that, too. Like I'm

like, "I'm I need to look that up and

never do." And then I never know

anything more. But yeah, so I went back,

talked to Jason. At that time it was uh

surplus acreage. Then this time it was

affordable housing. Now, this time it's

wild wildfire fighting, which if you get

into the weeds on fighting wildfires,

it's there's the National Forest Service

already has 10 billion dollar of road

work they need to do on roads that are

failing right now. So, they're saying

you're going to add more roads to the 10

billion worth of work that the roads

already need maintenance on. Don't think

so. Um what what they're going to do is

and then also if you make roads the the

stats say 85 to 90% of fires are started

within a half mile of road of a road. So

it's not the wilderness areas that are

in danger that we need to figure out how

to fight fires back there. There's

hardly any fires back there. It's always

about the roads we've created that we

can't maintain. That's where the the

fires are starting. Right.

>> Right. Because it's usually people.

>> It's it's it's human cause. 90% of the

time it's

that's only like a small percentage of

fires that can't be fought.

>> Here it is. Some Utah politicians who

are members of the LDS Mormon church

have pushed proposals to sell or

transfer federal public lands, but this

is a political movement, not an official

LDS church program, and other Mormon

groups openly oppose it. So, Utah's see

more disinformation. Somebody tried to

feed me and I kind of helped spread it,

right?

>> Utah's heavily dominated by federal

land. 42% of the state is managed by the

Bureau of Land Management alone. Even

more under other federal agencies

because so much federal so much of

Utah's federal fights over whether to

retain, transfer, or sell some of that

land is especially intense there. Yeah,

this next part is about Mike Lee, which

>> conservative Utah Republicans such as

Senator Mike Lee have proposed budget or

legislative plans that would make

millions of acres of western public land

eligible for sale, arguing it would

boost housing or local economies. The

housing thing is like, hey man, [ __ ]

you. No,

>> you're not putting houses in the

mountains. I don't believe you. I think

most likely what you're doing is there's

natural gas out there or minerals out

there or something. It's uh I mean they

don't care about first of all they'd

have to build infrastructure out there

in the mountains which you know water

power that's not going to happen. What

is this Wyoming thing? Says that Wyoming

case would have been the first time a

registered national historic site was

sold into private ownership which is why

it drew attention. What what are they

referring to though?

uh a national historic site among Oregon

Trail could end up in the hands of

private owners at the request of members

of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day

Saints.

>> Oh, so the church tried to purchase

public land.

>> So down down to that next one, it says

LDS teachings require strong stewardship

and explicitly advocate preserving and

protecting public land. So

>> okay,

>> that goes against politicians

>> like what he's doing and I think he's

like beholden to Trump. Trump's like his

errand boy for this public land thing

because Trump doesn't give a [ __ ] about

public land.

>> But his son does. This is what doesn't

make any sense. Like his Donald Trump

Jr.

>> Does he listen to anybody?

>> I don't know.

>> I don't think so.

>> Listen to me about psychedelics.

>> Well, that Okay, we'll talk to him about

this.

>> Is that again with sneaky roadless rule

amendment? Yeah.

>> Yeah. Well, maybe if I see him this

weekend. Well, I will see him this

weekend, but maybe I'll talk to him

about that. But I don't think

>> there was a there was a sentence in

there that I just saw. It says 99% right

here. N right in the middle. 99% of

Americans oppose repealing the rules of

this rule. Okay. So why they work for

us? Isn't it isn't that right? So the

reason why I got to this is because you

talked about the mountain lions. It's

like why don't they listen to people

like the public? The public would say,

"Yeah, we probably need to hunt mountain

lions, keep them manager." I don't think

the public of California would.

>> I think I'm opposed to that. I'm opposed

to ballot box biologists. Me too.

>> So they got wolves into Colorado.

>> But I'm just wondering like with this

this roadless rule. They didn't ask the

public anything,

>> right?

>> And 99% of the public oppose it.

>> Yeah. That's way I think I would say way

more people oppose that than oppose any

kind of a hunting thing.

>> Yeah. I I'm good with Okay. So on your

point then I want biologists making the

decision on hunting.

>> 100%.

>> I don't want politicians making the

decision on land use.

>> 100%.

>> So that's that's all I'm that's all I'm

saying. It's like let's have experts in

the field decide these things. It's like

who is the expert in the field who

decided the White House needs a

ballroom?

>> Uh me. I called in. No,

>> but it's like how are these decisions

being made? Like this roadless rule.

This was like a lastm minute add-on that

the public did not get a chance to vote

on.

>> How is that how is that okay?

>> No, it's not okay. It's it's super

[ __ ] sneaky. And I think all of our

position should be like your t-shirt,

>> the Teddy Roosevelt position, not one

acre. Like we have a amazing system

here. We do.

>> The public land system in the United

States is completely unique to the rest

of the world. It's very different. and

the fact that you can go out there and

that is your land. If you are a citizen

of the United States of America, public

land is your land and you have access to

incredible wilderness and beautiful

places. And if you've got the endurance

and the ability to go deep in there, you

could go to places where there's no

[ __ ] people and it's unbelievably

pristine wilderness and it's owned by

the entire country. And we got to keep

it that way. We can't we can't let that

slippery slope

get get into play. As soon as they start

giving away some of it or selling away

some of it, they'll they'll [ __ ] keep

going.

>> Not one acre.

>> What once once you lose something, you

don't get it back

>> ever.

>> And this especially with this public

land like at this time when when we all

came together, it was outdoorsmen in all

regards. It was hunting, hiking,

fishing, uh, who whoever uh recreators.

Yeah. like what it's like people who

just love and appreciate public lands.

We all came together, shot it down and

the public sentiment was was vicious,

right? And they couldn't ignore it. We

need the same thing now because at this

time I know we did so much. Everybody

came together. But when they do these

they wear us down with these these last

minute deals and add on these things

because it's like how many things can

you keep fighting and fighting and

fighting and you're like I thought we

already got this. Didn't we solve this

already and now it's back?

>> Well, I think that's one of the reasons

why they keep so many [ __ ] balls in

the air at the same time is because you

can't fight it all. You know, it's like,

do you really care about the Epstein

files or do you care about UFO

disclosure?

>> Yeah, I know.

>> The UF UAPs, we're going to have a big

meeting on Monday. We're going to have a

big release on Wednesday.

>> Okay.

>> So, I think they took to me it seems

pretty nefarious that they're like say,

"Oh, we got all these [ __ ] [ __ ]

worried about this roadless rule. Okay,

we can distract some of them with the

aliens. Got an alien stuff. All right.

Okay. Oh, we could uh we could distract

some of them with fighting. We got the

White House fight coming up. Okay,

that's And now all of a sudden now it's

way quieter because they've distracted

some of these core core groups with this

other [ __ ] right? And it's the

bread and circus thing. And like I kind

of agree with Bryce Mitchell who said

this that it's not for the White House

to be putting on sporting events. That's

not We hire the government to run our

country, not entertain us.

>> True. Yeah. No, I look I don't like it

because I think they should be fighting

indoors always. I think world

championship fights at the highest level

should be fought in a controlled

environment. That said, it's going to be

sick.

>> It's going to be It's going to be I'm

going to watch.

>> I have two like people think, "Oh,