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0:02

Intel is showing some signs of life and

0:04

dare we say even some remote distant

0:07

signs of intelligence. No longer does it

0:09

look like a cold distant asteroid on a

0:12

collision course spelling doom. Now it's

0:15

actually doing kind of okay with the 270

0:17

KP that we're reviewing today. With the

0:19

250 KP that we just reviewed, we didn't

0:21

say that it's a waste of sand. This, as

0:24

many of you pointed out in the comments,

0:26

is the biggest possible compliment that

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Intel or AMD or Nvidia could get on this

0:31

channel. Not a waste of sand. It's our

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coveted award. In this case, the 250 KP

0:36

we already said uh was looking a lot

0:38

better. The 270 KP actually is pretty

0:41

competitive in some specific workloads

0:43

in an exciting way and an interesting

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one. Uh the biggest problem is that it's

0:47

on a dead-end platform. We'll respect

0:50

your time. We'll give you the TLDDR and

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basically the conclusion right now. The

0:52

270 KP is a $300 CPU. Already a good

0:56

start. Its performance in our Chromium

0:58

code compile test in put the 270KP up at

1:00

the top of the board with a 103minute

1:02

result. Most critically, that has it

1:04

only 2 minutes slower than the AMD

1:05

9950X, which commonly costs $500 to $520

1:08

right now. To be within error of the

1:10

more expensive 9950X spells danger for

1:12

AMD's high-end solution in its desktop

1:14

platform. The 270 KP beat the 14700K

1:17

finally in this test also. So it's not

1:19

regressive like it was last time with a

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14% reduction of required compile time.

1:24

In Puget Suite testing with Da Vinci

1:26

Resolve for video editing work, the

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270KP again lands at the top of the

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chart. In fact, ignoring the 285K with

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the non-like forlike higher speed

1:33

memory, the 270KP is actually now the

1:35

best performer on this chart in our like

1:37

forlike testing. Behind it sits the 9950

1:40

X3D, which is over $600 when we can find

1:42

it available right now. In Blender

1:44

tilebased rendering, the 270KP is barely

1:46

behind the 9950X. The 950X is over $200

1:49

more expensive, and yet it only required

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7.7% less time to complete the render.

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But the 270 KP isn't always better, like

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in Photoshop, but more often than not,

1:57

it is. Gaming also shows promise. AMD

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maintains a lead with the more expensive

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9800 X3D and with the 7800 X3D, which is

2:04

closer in price to the 270 KP when we

2:06

could find it in stock, but still more

2:08

expensive. However, despite AMD's lead,

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Intel is gaining on it, including in

2:11

tests where we know for a fact that we

2:13

aren't GPUbound. Intel, we think, has

2:16

the makings of an AMD 2017 era Ryzen

2:19

1000, 2018, 2000 uh sort of

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revitalization where AMD did really well

2:25

in production workloads and it was just

2:27

kind of okay in game. It was like if

2:30

you're gaming only, you would still buy

2:31

Intel, but if you did other stuff, then

2:34

AMD started to make a lot more sense.

2:35

Intel kind of looks like that right now

2:37

where the X3D parts are still in the

2:39

lead for basically every game, but

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Intel's getting a lot closer. In

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production though, the 200 series

2:44

refresh is actually looking a lot

2:46

better. Other than platform longevity,

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we only had one serious complaint about

2:50

the 270KP that actually is a problem for

2:52

Intel, and that is that in our single

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thread frequency testing, the 270KP

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underperformed and it failed to meet

2:58

Intel's specification and advertised

3:00

clocks. It's 100 MHz short of Intel's

3:03

marketing claims. That's a big swin and

3:05

a miss that we haven't seen in this

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testing for years. Either Intel is

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misrepresenting the capabilities of the

3:10

CPU or the combination of the ASUS Z890

3:12

board plus the CPU result in

3:14

underperformance that needs to be

3:15

addressed in a firmware update. Still,

3:17

in spite of its deficiency against the

3:18

marketing claims, which is a big

3:20

separate problem, the CPU actually did

3:22

overall perform well. Uh the 250 KP was

3:25

a good introduction to the series, but

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the 270 KP is the one that's giving us

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flashbacks to that Ryzen sort of

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10002000 especially era. And uh our our

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single biggest criticism for Intel with

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the 270 KP is that it's a dead-end

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socket. You're buying the motherboard.

3:38

If you're building now and you don't

3:39

already have this platform, you're

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buying a board that you are dooming to

3:43

basically only have the CPU in it. Maybe

3:44

they put out one more refresh that's a

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little higherend, but architecturally

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there's no indication that they will do

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another full new gen architecture on

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this platform. I'd love to be wrong.

3:53

There's nothing that indicates that uh

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it will go any other way though right

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now. And you know, if Intel, if you're

3:58

listening, Intel, seriously, just if

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only so that you can say that I'm wrong.

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I like I don't even care. I I would love

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to be wrong. Just please for the next

4:08

one, make it a platform that has some

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actual [ __ ] longevity like AM4. And

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AM4 is a you know, it's like 10 years

4:15

old now and they're still kind of going,

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but even half of that would be a big

4:19

change from where Intel's been. If you

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do that, you are taking away my only big

4:24

complaint. Like I that's the biggest

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caveat I have. So Intel, please if

4:28

you're listening just I'm sure I'm sure

4:32

there's people there who are like

4:33

someone shut this guy up. That's the way

4:35

to do it. Hopefully they do that for the

4:37

next one. But anyway, the 270 KP is

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still pretty interesting. Um overall

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we're excited about the direction for

4:43

Intel with this one. The 250KP I was

4:44

like h it's pretty good. It's okay. But

4:47

this one just because the production

4:49

side of things is so compelling in some

4:50

of these tests. Uh this is one I'm a lot

4:52

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right, so we posted our 250kP review the

6:14

other day and that one goes into Intel's

6:16

platform performance package or again

6:19

for short Intel's PP package or as one

6:23

of you in the comments pointed out, it

6:24

could also be Intel's platform PP. So

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that is something we'll leave to

6:28

discussion in the previous video. I

6:30

don't really know why, but it seemed

6:31

like everyone in the comments thought

6:32

this was just the funniest thing. Like I

6:35

I'm literally I'm just saying the

6:36

objective name of it. It's Intel's PB

6:38

package. We continually talk about how

6:41

Intel's PB package performs when Intel

6:43

doesn't have its PP package out. And

6:45

when it has it out, it performs better

6:48

sometimes, and when it doesn't have it

6:49

out, it doesn't do as well. It's not a

6:51

big PP package, but at 100 megabytes,

6:53

you really can't complain. So, for

6:55

whatever reason, I I I don't know. Like,

6:57

the comments are just like, "Haha, so

7:00

funny." And I don't get it. I mean, I

7:02

just That's literally what it's called.

7:04

So, anyway, today we are also testing

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Intel's PB package once again. Uh, also

7:08

for shorter, the triple P or the 270K

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PPP or the double PP. They have two of

7:15

them. Anyway, the 250 KP video goes over

7:18

that. We're not doing that again. You

7:20

can watch that video. If you're going to

7:21

buy one of these CPUs, you need to know

7:22

about it. It is software you need to

7:24

install. Uh, and it's separate from the

7:25

chipset drivers and things like that.

7:27

So, make sure you are aware of how that

7:28

works. Let's get into some of the

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pricing roundup and the specs. Then

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we'll do the review. We'll keep the

7:32

specs quick. The Ultra 7270K Plus CPU is

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a 24 core 24thread part with eight P

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cores and 16E cores. As a result, it's

7:39

running a 40 megaby L2 cache. So, the

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core count and cache size are both

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increased from the 265K. The 265K is a

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20 core 20thread part with 8 P cores and

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12 EC cores. So, Intel's increased ecore

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count by four. And alongside that, L2

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cache is up from 36 megabytes to 40

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megabytes. Clock speed is advertised at

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5500 MHz for the 265K. And for both of

8:01

them, TDP is about the same. It's still

8:02

at around 250 watts for the 270 KP.

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Advertised clock speed is also 5500 MHz

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for the 270 KP. We'll quickly check

8:10

Newegg for some nearby CPU prices. The

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270 KP is supposed to be a $300 part

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that launches in a couple days. Other

8:15

relevant components include the 265K,

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which is $285 on Newegg now. The AMD

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R79700X M5 CPU, which installs in a

8:24

platform with some actual life to it at

8:26

$296. the 7800 XD, which remains one of

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the best gaming CPUs after the 9800 XD,

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but is now $375 when available and

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sometimes 350 from thirdparty sellers,

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although those are less trustworthy.

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That's going to be the closest gaming

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competition, and that $50 to $75 price

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increase can be soaked by the fact that

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one, it is higher performance in a lot

8:45

of cases, and two, the motherboard has

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more than one use, and the RAM can be

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slower while getting most the benefit

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still out of the CPU. There's also the

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Nin00X, which is a $374 part that might

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be an option for production builds.

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However, even the $520 9950X is beaten

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by the 270 KP in some of our production

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tests. With all that out of the way,

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let's get into the testing. Our first

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test is for frequency validation, which

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is to ensure the CPU is working properly

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and that it's able to hit Intel's

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advertised targets. And in one case, it

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wasn't in an all core workload with

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Blender. The 270KP's peak pecore

9:15

frequency was 5400 MHz. That's below

9:18

Intel's 5.5 GHz claim, but this part is

9:20

expected behavior because the CPU is

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under an allcore workload. The ecore

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average was 4,700 MHz for the 270 KP,

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which exactly matches the advertised

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claims on the spec sheet. For

9:30

perspective, the 250 KP's pecore peak

9:32

was about 5100 MHz under this allcore

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workload, and the 250 KP's ecores ran at

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4600 MHz. Adding the 265K for

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perspective, the preceding Ultra 7 CPU

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ran at 5200 MHz peak for the PC cores

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and 4600 MHz peak for the EC cores.

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Under an allcore load, Intel has boosted

9:48

the frequency by about 200 MHz PC core

9:50

and 100 MHz Ecore versus the 265K. This

9:53

chart validates the frequency in a

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single threaded workload where the CPUs

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will reach their maximum boost clocks.

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Intel fails to achieve its maximum

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advertised boost. Here, this is the

10:02

first objective failure we've seen in

10:04

this test in a long time. Now, we reran

10:06

the test and the results were the same.

10:08

Intel's CPU is hitting 5400 MHz max

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single thread per interval under a

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single threaded workload, but it spec

10:13

sheet states that the maximum is 5 1/2

10:15

GHz. So, it should be 100 MHz higher.

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The CPU is not performing as advertised.

10:19

Although 100 MHz off the maximum single

10:21

core or thread boost won't impact

10:23

results too much. In most cases, it's

10:25

still not aligned with the product Intel

10:27

is marketing. There's either an issue in

10:29

the firmware or with the CPU here. We're

10:32

using the latest BIOS for the ASUS Z890

10:34

motherboards that are compatible with

10:36

these CPUs. At the time of launch, the

10:37

250 KP managed to hit its advertised

10:39

clocks, but it struggled. So, the 270 KP

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seems to be mirroring that behavior,

10:43

just more extreme. We talked in the 250

10:45

KP review about how the first twothirds

10:47

of the test with 250 KP saw it lower

10:49

than advertised max clock more often

10:52

than at it with only the remaining

10:54

one-third more often at the advertised

10:56

maximum at the end of the test. We're

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not sure if the behavior persists with

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other 270 KP CPUs or motherboards. But

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if it does, Intel would be overselling

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it CPU's performance. If it doesn't,

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then likely ASUS and Intel need to

11:07

resolve this for their boards. Just for

11:08

reference, the 285K was capable of

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hitting it 5700 MHz maximum advertised

11:13

boost previously. In Boulders's Gate 3,

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the 270 KP ran at 114 to 115 FPS

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average, enabling the platform PP didn't

11:19

do anything for the 270 KP entry here.

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The result has the 270 KP tied with

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AMD's 5700 XD and behind the 5600 XD by

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about 1 FPS average. Intel's lows are

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technically better than these two AM4

11:31

X3D parts, but not in a perceptible way.

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The 270 KP PPP ran 5% higher frame rate

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than the 250 KP with PPP, meaning an

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extra $100 or a 50% increase in price

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gets just 5% more performance in this

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game. And you don't even get more PPS

11:46

with that. You still only have two PPS

11:49

with both of these CPUs spread across

11:51

the quadruple B. That should skew

11:53

disproportionately in production

11:54

workloads later, but it's not a big jump

11:56

for gaming so far. The 270KP is also

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10.7% ahead of the 265K's 104 FPS

12:02

average result. really more of a shame

12:04

for Intel's most recent 7 series

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predecessor than anything else here. The

12:08

265K is currently $285, which softens

12:11

that comparison, but it was around $400

12:13

previously. Intel has improved the price

12:16

and performance of the Ultra 7 with the

12:18

new one. Alongside its Ultra 5 series

12:20

CPUs we already reviewed, so things are

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looking positive for Intel right now.

12:24

Comparatively, compared to AMD, other

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than the AM4 X2D entries that remain

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ahead, the 7800 XD is also worth

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considering. And the CPU is currently

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around $350 from thirdparty sellers,

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putting it $50 over the 270 KP and 16%

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ahead by average frame rate with its 133

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FPS result. Outer Worlds 2 is next,

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which is one of our newer tests in this

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game. And at 1080p, the 270 KP ran at

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133 FPS average with PvP and 130 FPS

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average without it. So about a 2% gain

12:49

from enabling the PP package. The 270 KP

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ends up behind the 9800 XD, which ran at

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139 FPS average and was bested only by

12:55

the 9850 XD because our 1440p results

12:58

are also capped at the same frame rate.

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We already know that we're not GPU bound

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in this 1080p test. This is one of the

13:03

situations where Intel ends up a lot

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closer to the 9800 XD, which only has a

13:07

4 and a half% lead here with DDR56000,

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although they're tied when the 9850 XD

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is on the cheaper and slower DDR5 4800.

13:14

Obviously, the 270 KP also finally

13:16

outpaces Intel's prior 14700K that the

13:18

265K sort of replaced, although it

13:21

regressed by pure performance metrics.

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It took Intel a full half generation,

13:26

but they're finally on the path back to

13:28

increasing performance rather than

13:29

decreasing it. The 9700 X has never been

13:31

particularly impressive for gaming and

13:33

is down at 103 FPS average. So, the 270

13:36

KP has a lead of 28 and a half%. 1440p

13:38

is next for Outer Worlds 2. In this

13:40

test, the top results only lose two FPS

13:42

average, which could be variance. And

13:43

that's for the 9850 XD. We're not seeing

13:45

the impact of a GPU bottleneck here yet,

13:47

which is a good thing for showing CPU

13:48

scaling. As a result, not much has

13:50

changed. The 270 KP with and without PvP

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runs at 130 FPS average here with

13:55

nothing new to talk about from the 1080p

13:57

version of this chart. Still, we wanted

13:58

to at least show a higher resolution to

14:00

illustrate that depending on the GPU

14:02

performance, the results don't

14:03

necessarily get truncated. Stellaris,

14:05

test simulation time in the game rather

14:06

than frame rate, which gives us a better

14:08

look at performance in a way that

14:09

impacts real world and not just the

14:11

frame throughput. Meaning, if the CPU

14:13

processes faster, you actually feel that

14:16

time in real life. The 270 KP required

14:18

36 seconds to complete the simulation

14:20

both with and without PVP. There was no

14:22

change there. That has about the same

14:24

level as Intel's prior 1300K flagship,

14:26

which launched in 2022 for $590 to $600

14:29

or so. It took Intel about four years,

14:31

but they've now reached the same

14:32

performance for about half the initial

14:34

MSRP. However, the 270 KP still hasn't

14:36

reached the performance levels of the

14:37

14700 K. It is getting closer though, at

14:40

least. The 9800 X3D outperforms the 270

14:43

KP with a 15% reduction in simulation

14:45

time required. The 9700 X performs about

14:47

the same as 70 KP. As for CPUs lower

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down, the 270 KP is outperforming

14:52

Intel's recent 285K and the 7800 X2D.

14:56

And against the same generation 250 KP,

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it benefits from a simulation time

15:00

reduction of 7.7%. This is one of the

15:02

games where AMD's AM4 X3D CPUs like the

15:05

5800X3D are lowered down the stack,

15:07

giving Intel a better position than some

15:09

other games. Finally, against the 265K,

15:12

the 270 KP reduces simulation time by

15:14

12.2%. Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is

15:16

also one of our newer tests. At 1080p,

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the 270 KP ran at 238 to 239 FPS average

15:21

under both test conditions. The 4600K

15:23

still has a 2% lead over the new 7-class

15:25

CPU with the two basically

15:27

indistinguishable from a user

15:29

standpoint. The 7800 X2D leads at 269

15:31

FPS average or 12.6% in average frame

15:34

rate. When it's available, this is still

15:36

a relatively direct price comparison.

15:38

Lows are also improved. The 9800 XD

15:40

pushes that further with a lead of 32%,

15:43

although it's more expensive. Faster

15:44

memory didn't really help the 285K here,

15:46

and we don't expect to change things

15:47

notably for the 270 KP either. The kit

15:49

we're using already has good timings,

15:51

which tend to matter more for most

15:53

games. Against the 250 KP, the 270 KP is

15:55

5.3% improved for average frame rate.

15:57

And these 9700 X is around $300 lately

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and is beaten by the 270 KP by 11%. The

16:03

next test moves to 1440p to increase the

16:05

GPU load. The 270 KP ran at 238 FPS

16:08

average here, so the same as the 1080p

16:09

result. There's enough distance from the

16:11

GPU ceiling that it's not affecting CPUs

16:13

lower down the ranks. The GPU ceiling

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starts to truncate the 9850 XD and 9800

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XD results. So, those have come down

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closer to 270 KP with 1440p even on the

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5090. The rest is the same. So, we'll

16:25

move on. Dragon Stock with two is up

16:27

next in this one. The 270 KP with its PP

16:29

package performed the same as the 7800

16:31

X3D. They're within one FPS of each

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other for the average here with Intel

16:35

gaining a technical advantage in the

16:37

lows between the two. The 14700 K still

16:39

leads the Intel 270 KP. So, the company

16:42

is still regressive versus its 14 series

16:44

CPUs. In this case, that lead is 5%

16:47

favoring the 14700 K. Ahead of that, the

16:50

9800 XD at 127 FPS average is a 14%

16:52

improvement for average FPS on the 270

16:54

KP with PPP. The lows improved from the

16:57

7800 X3D, but are still worse than the

17:00

270 KP. AMD's older 5800 X2D isn't far

17:03

behind the 270 KP, but it is behind. So,

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Intel has at least climbed past AM4's

17:08

goat here. The 270 KP also outperforms

17:10

the 9700 X's 88 FPS average by 26%.

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Against the 250 KP with PP, the 270 KP's

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111 FPS average gives it a 5% bump. It's

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not really worth the extra money. It's

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not even close to worth the extra money.

17:21

Maybe though production benchmarks will

17:23

change that. As for the PP package, it

17:25

does seem to be technically doing

17:27

something here. Both the 270 KP and 250

17:29

KP had gains of a few FPS from enabling

17:32

it, even though you wouldn't actually

17:34

feel the PP package as an end user.

17:36

Cyberpunk 2077 is next first with medium

17:38

settings. The 270 KP's 176 FPS average

17:41

puts the CPU just behind the 5700 X3D,

17:43

which had a launch MSRP $50 lower than

17:45

that of the 270 KP. Intel's still

17:47

playing catch-up with AMD's older AM4

17:49

CPUs in this game, but has at least

17:51

bested its own 14 series CPUs by a

17:53

meaningful amount this time. The 270KP's

17:56

176 FPS average puts it ahead of the

17:57

14700 K's 162 FPS average by 9%.

18:00

Although in this one, the 265K wasn't

18:03

regressive as in other benchmarks. The

18:05

improvement over the 265K is 6.3%. Here,

18:08

the chart is helmed by the 9850XD at 230

18:11

FPS average, a 30% lead over the 270 KP.

18:14

Intel still has a lot of ground to gain

18:16

on AMD's high-end, but for now, they're

18:18

at least getting closer to the CPU's

18:20

nearer end price. The 7800 XD is an

18:22

example of that, which has a 12.7%

18:24

advantage over the 270 KP. Now, tested

18:26

with high settings in Cyberpunk 2077,

18:28

the 270 KP held a 165 FPS average and

18:31

lows at 109 and 94 FPS. This dropped

18:33

slightly from the medium settings test.

18:35

We didn't see a difference from enabling

18:36

PvP here. The depth of impact with the

18:39

250 KP's PP package is also small at a 1

18:42

FPS swing. That's basically margin of

18:45

error and wouldn't be noticed. CPUs

18:46

above the 270 KP include the 5800 X2D,

18:49

which maintains about a 7 to 8%

18:51

advantage. And then the 7800 XD at about

18:54

11.7% advantage versus the faster of the

18:56

two 270KP results. After that, the 9800X

18:59

3D chart tops at 28 FPS average for an

19:02

improvement on the 270 KP of 26%. Below

19:05

the 270 KP and fortunately for Intel, we

19:07

find the prior generation i74700K.

19:10

Previously, this CPU is about tied with

19:12

the 265K, posting little improvement

19:14

generationally for Intel's 7 lineup.

19:16

Now, we're seeing an uplift of 8.2%. The

19:19

improvement on the 265K is 7%. AMD's

19:22

9700X is pretty far down the charts.

19:24

Without X3D, AMD just has trouble

19:26

keeping up with any of the other CPUs

19:27

here. In F125 at 1080p, the 270 KP ran

19:30

at about 277 to 278 FPS average. We

19:33

didn't see any change of the platform PP

19:35

true for both the 270 KP and the 250

19:37

KBP. Where within runto run variance for

19:40

both the higher of the two results puts

19:42

AMD 7800 X2D 8.8% ahead of that one. The

19:45

9800 XD boosts that further but also

19:47

boosts the price and is 29% improved on

19:50

the 270KP. Against Intel's prior CPUs,

19:52

the 270 KP outperforms the 285K, so

19:55

that's good. and also best the former

19:57

flagship 13900K. Changing to faster

19:59

memory had no impact on the 285K in this

20:01

testing and we wouldn't expect one on

20:03

the 270 KP in this test either. The 270

20:05

KP also leads the 14700K by about 10 FPS

20:08

average and the 5800 XD by about 18 FPS

20:11

average. As for the 250 KP, spending an

20:13

extra $100 would boost from 253 FPS to

20:17

about 278 FPS average or about 9.8% that

20:20

you get for that 100 bucks you're

20:22

spending. And again, production

20:23

workloads will change that. Starfield is

20:25

the last for games with production next.

20:27

In Starfield, the 270 KP ran at 160 FPS

20:29

average. The PP package is impotent here

20:32

for the 270 KP with its change within

20:34

run-to-run variance and error. The 250

20:36

KP saw slightly more of a change, so is

20:38

either more receptive due to its lower

20:40

spec configuration or just landed on the

20:42

outer bounds of variance. The 14700K

20:44

still leads the 270 KP, so Intel hasn't

20:47

beaten its predecessor yet by raw

20:48

performance. They're close though, and

20:50

we'd expect the next generation should

20:52

surpass it finally. Intel is also

20:54

driving down power consumption

20:55

tactically at the same time, so they're

20:57

at least gaining an efficiency. The AMD

20:59

7800 X3D manages about a 6 to 7 FPS lead

21:02

over the 270K with the 9800 X3D more

21:04

meaningfully ahead at a 197 FPS average.

21:07

Against the 250 KP, the 270 KP is 6.6%

21:10

ahead. We're moving to production

21:11

testing now where the 270 KP should show

21:13

more of an improvement over the 250 KP

21:16

than, for example, in gaming. Intel has

21:18

established itself something of a

21:19

foothold in retaking some of the

21:20

non-gaming workload top ranks. That's

21:23

something that we'll see here. Chromium

21:24

code compile in Windows is next,

21:26

although not plotted here just to save

21:27

space for the next round of CPUs. We

21:29

didn't see a difference again with PV

21:30

enabled in this one for the 270 KP that

21:33

mirrors the 250 KP testing where the two

21:35

entries were about 133 minutes. This

21:37

test looks at time required to complete

21:39

the compile with the 270 KP completing

21:41

the Chromium compile as we tested in 103

21:44

minutes. that has it slower than the

21:45

9950X by only about two minutes, meaning

21:48

the 9950X completes the work in 1.9%

21:51

less time, which isn't that big of an

21:53

advantage for the price of the 9950X

21:56

CPUs. This is a great result for the

21:58

270KP and actually one of the best out

22:00

of all the testing we've done so far for

22:02

these new parts. The 270KP outdoes the

22:04

285K by a couple minutes and shortens

22:06

the compile time on the 14700K's

22:08

120minute result by about 17 minutes for

22:10

a reduction in time required of 14%.

22:13

Versus the 250 KP's 133minut result, the

22:15

270 KP completes the compile in 22.6%

22:19

less time. AMD's 9700 X is pretty far

22:21

down in this one at 190 minutes. This

22:24

allows the 270 KP to complete the

22:25

compile in 46% less time required than

22:28

the 9700 X. AMD's 9800 XD and 9850 XVD

22:32

utilize their higher frequencies to

22:33

outperform the 9700 X, but otherwise

22:35

they don't gain their value back in cost

22:37

in this test as expected because the

22:40

extra cash is really more of a gaming

22:41

benefit. In Blender rendering with the

22:43

CPU where one tile is spawned per thread

22:45

available, the 270 KP performed equally

22:48

with and without PvP. Once again, both

22:50

the 270KP with its PP package equipped

22:53

and with it put away required 6 and 1/2

22:55

minutes to complete the render of one

22:57

frame from our intro animation. The

22:59

9950X did this work in 6 minutes as did

23:02

the 9950XD. Intel is getting close to

23:04

AMD 16 core CPUs with these workloads,

23:07

which is mostly just exciting because we

23:08

might finally have some competition

23:10

again in at least this segment. The 285K

23:13

did the work in 6.7 minutes. So, in

23:16

terms of actual performance, it's really

23:18

not that different from the 270 KP.

23:19

However, the 285K has been $530 to $600

23:22

since launch. Lately, $530 to $560. And

23:25

the 270KP should be $300. That's a

23:28

massive improvement on the 285K's value

23:30

proposition and is actually a threat to

23:32

AMD's 9950X with one exception being

23:35

that you could actually put another CPU

23:37

in the 9950X's motherboard in the

23:39

future. Whereas the 270 KP will be in a

23:42

dead platform and that is a big

23:43

advantage for AMD. Either way, as we

23:46

said in the 250 KP review, it looks like

23:47

Intel is starting to establish a

23:49

foothold in non-gaming work just like

23:50

AMD did back in the Ryzen 1000 and 2000

23:53

era. If Intel takes platform longevity

23:55

more seriously in its next round, then

23:57

they would be taking away one of the key

23:59

criticisms of them, and that would be a

24:00

good thing. As for other results, the

24:02

270 KP outdoes the 265K's 8minute render

24:05

time, completing the work in about 19%

24:07

less time required. The 14 solder K is

24:10

at 8.8 minutes, so this is a decent

24:12

improvement after the prior relatively

24:14

stagnant launch. In sevenzip file

24:15

compression testing, the 270 KP

24:17

completed 183,000 MIPS or millions of

24:19

instructions per second. Enabling PPP

24:21

had it at 181,000 MIPS for the result,

24:24

meaning the higher result is only 0.9%

24:27

higher. So, the differences we're seeing

24:28

are just run-to-un variance. They are

24:30

within error. Taking the higher of the

24:31

two, the 270KP ends up just behind

24:33

Intel's 1400K former flagship. The 285K

24:36

actually benefited from the faster

24:38

memory here, showing a 2.7% improvement

24:40

from its baseline result. It's not a big

24:42

difference, but more than we've seen in

24:43

a lot of cases. AMD's 9950X CPUs both

24:46

take the top of the chart without going

24:47

to Thread Ripper. As for relevant

24:49

comparisons, the 270 KP outd does the

24:51

14700 K's 174K MIPS by 5% and the 265K

24:57

by 14%. Against the 250 KP, the 270 KP

25:00

completes 18% higher MIPS. That's a

25:02

larger gain than the 3 to 8%

25:04

improvements we saw in most games

25:05

between the 270 250, but still not a ton

25:08

for the price increase. AMD's 9700 X

25:10

falls pretty far down the charts here,

25:12

giving the 270 KP a 65% lead over it.

25:14

The 9900 X is about $370 commonly, so

25:18

about $70 over MSRP for the 270KP, and

25:21

the 270 KP outperforms it by 13%. In

25:23

decompression testing, the 270KP

25:25

completed 198.7,000 MIPS without PPP and

25:29

197.3,000 MIPS with it. So again, these

25:32

are within variance of each other. Uh we

25:34

could rerun this even more times and

25:36

they'd probably keep flipping like this.

25:38

Taking the higher of the two, the 1400K

25:40

takes back the lead with a 26,000 MIPS

25:43

result or an improvement of 3.6%. Intel

25:46

is still showing regression and

25:47

decompression testing here. The 270 KP

25:49

is getting close at least to the 285K

25:52

and is significantly cheaper. AMD 16

25:54

core CPUs lead these charts, followed by

25:56

Intel's former 1400K and 1300K

25:58

flagships, which somehow end up

26:00

accidentally being their current

26:01

flagships. So, they're still the

26:03

flagships, but they used to be the

26:04

flagships, too. The 9800 XVD and 9850

26:07

XVD aren't competitive here and

26:09

especially not at the price. The CPUs

26:11

are fine, but the extra cash has never

26:13

really benefited the production

26:14

workloads that we benchmark or most of

26:15

them anyway. These are more for gaming,

26:18

uh, at least where you get the value out

26:20

of them. Against the 250 KP PPP, the 270

26:23

KP is showing a 31% improvement. Take

26:26

the higher of the two. That's getting

26:27

more worthwhile at least versus the last

26:29

one. Over the 9700 X, the 270 KP higher

26:32

result posts a 52% improvement. Adobe

26:34

Photoshop tested with the Puget Suite is

26:36

next. In this one, the 270KP doesn't do

26:38

as comparatively well as in some of the

26:40

earlier tests. Still fine, but just not

26:41

as impressive. The 270KP with and

26:43

without PVP performed the same. In both

26:46

situations, it's just behind the 7800

26:47

XPD and ahead of the 14700 K. The 9700 X

26:51

leads the 270KP this time with a 15.7%

26:53

lead against the 270KP. The 265K, 285K,

26:56

and 245K were all unimpressive in this

26:59

test, down below even the 14600K. At

27:01

least with the 270 KP, Intel has

27:03

surpassed its prior generation 14700K.

27:05

AM4 X3D CPUs are all at the bottom here,

27:08

seeing no real benefit from the extra

27:10

cash. In Da Vinci Resolve video editing

27:12

testing, we saw the 270KP at over 14,000

27:14

points for the extended testing with the

27:16

Puget Suite. This has it just behind the

27:18

285K with expensive RAM, which is a good

27:20

result considering the price of the 285K

27:22

and the price of the DDR58000 memory.

27:24

And the fact that these scores are

27:26

functionally identical in performance is

27:27

also a good thing for the 270KP. The 270

27:29

KP ends up ahead of the 950X3D and 950X

27:32

this time. The gain against the 950X non

27:35

3D is 3% which isn't a huge advantage,

27:37

but considering the price difference, it

27:39

matters. Again, our only real complaint

27:41

against this CPU is that it's on a

27:43

dead-end platform. If Intel can do a

27:45

repeat of this launch, but on a platform

27:47

with some life left in it, they'd be

27:48

taking away our main criticisms.

27:50

Improvements over the 265K are also

27:52

notable with the prior 7class CPU down

27:55

in the 13,000s. As with our 250KP

27:57

review, we're keeping our power

27:58

consumption testing relatively

28:00

straightforward for these reviews. For

28:01

power testing, we're using an external

28:02

capture device to serve as an interposer

28:04

between the power supply and the

28:05

motherboard. So, the PMD2 here is

28:08

measuring ATX 12VT and EPS 12volt power

28:11

as this board is unconventionally

28:13

splitting some of its 24 pin power over

28:15

to the CPU. That's uncommon. We then

28:17

subtract the GPU slot power via a PCIe

28:20

slot riser which intercepts it at the

28:22

source and pulls from a four pin

28:23

connector that we can split out from

28:24

power logging instead of ATX12VT. In a

28:27

Blender Allcore workload, worst case

28:28

scenario, we measured the 270 KP at

28:30

about 284 watts when factoring in the

28:32

EPS2VT cables and the ATX 12VT line.

28:35

That means we'll have VRM efficiency

28:37

losses and other miscellaneous ATX 12VT

28:39

components factored in. So, it's a

28:40

little higher uh but it's still going to

28:42

give us a pretty good representation.

28:43

The CPU package power measured via

28:45

hardware info is at 230 watts to 251

28:47

watts, which matches the advertised TDP

28:49

of the CPU. For reference, the 250 KP

28:51

pulls significantly lower power at 186

28:54

watts via external capture and 130 to

28:56

150 watts via software logging. In F125

28:58

power consumption testing, we measured

29:00

peaks for the 270 KP at 250 watts during

29:02

loading sequences to prep the test run.

29:04

The 270 KP measured at 125 to 140 watts

29:07

during the game itself with hardware

29:09

info CPU package power logging the PB

29:11

package enhanced 270 KP which has a much

29:13

higher TDP at 176 watts during loading

29:16

and about 90 to 100 watts during the

29:18

game. Overall pretty good. That's yeah

29:21

that's right now Intel is like

29:22

celebrating. There's they're opening the

29:24

champagne in the office. I'm sure all 12

29:26

of them that are left after the layoffs.

29:28

So, the 270 KP is uh at $300, it's

29:33

pretty competitive. With the 950X, it's

29:35

way better than the 285K. I mean, that

29:37

CPU was a [ __ ] nightmare. Like, their

29:39

their 200 series launch was just awful.

29:42

Uh we knew they were launching onto a

29:44

dead-end platform. We got a refresh, so

29:47

that's good. But that plus the fact that

29:50

the CPUs were regressive versus the 14

29:53

series, it was just bad. It was And the

29:55

prices were pretty high, too. They were

29:56

like out of their [ __ ] minds with the

29:58

$600 CPU thing. They were doing plus or

30:00

minus 50 bucks sometimes. So, this is a

30:02

lot better direction. The 250 KP in

30:05

particular has a $200 CPU. That's good.

30:08

Like that. We don't have a lot of $200

30:10

computer parts these days that are

30:11

actually competitive and have silicon in

30:13

them. So, uh this is a good direction.

30:16

Unfortunately, as you all know, the RAM

30:18

pricing is astronomical right now. And

30:20

so if you want to build a computer, it's

30:22

the RAM is taking up probably like a

30:24

like 30% of the goddamn budget for the

30:26

computer or more depending on how much

30:28

you need. Uh and that kills it for a lot

30:31

of people. So budget part obviously like

30:34

$200 it's not not budget budget, you

30:36

know, that'd be we consider that maybe

30:37

like an $80, $100 CPU, but uh for the

30:40

performance you get, the price is

30:41

relatively good on the $200 250 KP. It's

30:44

just that you lose a lot of that

30:46

momentum as soon as you hit the memory

30:47

and as soon as you hit the single-use

30:49

basically motherboard that you'd be

30:50

buying to put it in. Same with the 270

30:52

KP. Um, but in a vacuum, ignoring the

30:54

memory pricing right now because that's

30:55

just a that's a constant that affects

30:57

everybody. It affects AMD2. Uh, ignoring

30:59

that, at least this is the right

31:02

direction for Intel and they're looking

31:04

competitive. I really hope Intel does a

31:07

repeat of this with a new platform that

31:10

they will keep. like enough of this

31:12

[ __ ] We're going to do like one

31:14

maybe two kind of generations on it and

31:16

then [ __ ] you, our motherboard partners

31:18

need more money. Enough of that. I

31:21

really got to see some longevity from

31:22

Intel because with AM4, you know, I

31:24

think people kind of uh looked down on

31:27

the longevity for a while with AM4

31:29

because it's like, well, I I don't if

31:30

I'm building a new computer, I don't

31:31

mind buying a new board, especially if

31:33

there's something like a new PCIe

31:34

generation, new DDR generation. Sure,

31:36

makes sense. But then you look at AM4

31:38

now. The amount of viewers we have,

31:40

especially those of you in particular in

31:42

places like Brazil and China and Taiwan,

31:45

places like this, we have so many

31:46

viewers who contact us and thank us for

31:49

looking at the newer AM4 parts because

31:51

you have AM4 builds and it makes a lot

31:53

more financial sense according to those

31:54

of you who have emailed us to just

31:56

upgrade and socket. And that's cool. It

31:58

also reduces e-waste. So even for the

32:00

people who are more privileged to where

32:02

you can just buy a whole new computer

32:04

every time, the longevity it really

32:06

matters, especially if your board when

32:08

you're done with it can go secondhand to

32:09

someone else who gets another three

32:11

years of processors on it. That's

32:12

awesome. So we need Intel to do that and

32:14

take away our main complaint. But as far

32:16

as the 270KP, you know, the conclusion

32:17

was in the beginning, you already got

32:19

it. Not going to go over it again. The

32:21

quick version is pretty good in

32:22

production. Uh much better in gaming

32:24

than it used to be. X3D is still the

32:26

best in gaming in most cases. sometimes

32:28

by a lot like 30 plus percent, sometimes

32:30

by not so much like six and a half

32:31

percent. Now, predictably AMD probably

32:34

is going to have a 10 series or

32:36

something that they'll put in the AM5

32:38

platform. So, they've got more life yet

32:40

in theirs and for sure they're going to

32:41

launch something and it'll be

32:42

competitive with these. That's just how

32:44

it goes. Um, but as far as the 270 KP,

32:47

I'm just happy that this is not another

32:49

like $400 7 class like i7 Ultra 7,

32:53

whatever CPU. Uh, and especially happy

32:56

that it's outperforming their prior $520

32:59

to $600 285K. So that is like genuinely

33:03

this is the most signs of of life and

33:06

market awareness we've seen from Intel

33:08

in years now outside of its GPU division

33:11

which up until recently seemed to be the

33:14

only part of Intel that actually

33:16

understood how people spend money. So um

33:20

yeah the DM stuff's still a mess

33:21

unfortunately but uh that's going to be

33:23

it for this review. So a lot of fun

33:25

working on these. Um, we had the Noctua

33:28

case if you want to check out some other

33:29

technical testing that had our new fan

33:30

testing machine in it for some data.

33:32

That was really fun. We had the Crimson

33:34

Desert GPU benchmarks. We got a lot more

33:36

coming up. But, uh, that'll wrap this

33:38

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33:39

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Interactive Summary

The Intel Core Ultra 7 270 Kp processor shows significant improvements in production workloads, rivaling more expensive AMD CPUs like the 9950X in some tasks. While it offers competitive performance for its $300 price point, its main drawback is being on a dead-end platform with no clear upgrade path. In gaming, it shows promise but is generally outperformed by AMD's X3D offerings. A notable issue is its failure to meet advertised clock speeds in single-threaded tests, falling 100 MHz short. Despite this, the 270 Kp represents a positive step for Intel, indicating a return to form in performance and value, especially compared to previous generations like the 285K. However, the high cost of RAM remains a significant barrier to building new PCs, and the lack of platform longevity for Intel motherboards is a major criticism.

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