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>> Baby. That's [ __ ] good.

>> Have we started? Are we going?

>> We're start. Oh, no.

>> Not over the relics.

>> The dirty dirtier this uh table is, the

better.

>> Get it away from the What is that?

>> The relics. That is uh that's from my

friend John Reeves. He gave that to me.

That's a masttodon tooth or woolly

mammoth or what's the difference? What

is the difference between woolly mammoth

and a mastadon? They must be a different

age,

>> a different era, but uh that's a giant

tooth that he there's a company in

Alaska, I forgot the name, but they uh

it kind of seems [ __ ] to carve into this

thing because it is 10,000 years old at

least.

>> How many of them are there though? Do

they have heaps of them?

>> They have heaps of them. But this is

really cool. It's like they carved a a

mammoth in it. So what is the

difference? According to our sponsor,

Perplexity, a woolly mammoth and a

mastadon were related, but quite

different ice age elephants. Mammoths

were taller, more slightly built grass

eataters, while mastadons were shorter

stockier browsers that ate woody plants.

Okay.

>> I was going to say the hair maybe, but I

don't. It's obviously more

>> woolly mammoth, right? Yeah, mastadon

looks like an elephant. Yeah, the

mastadon horn does look cooler.

>> They're pretty cool. They're all pretty

cool.

You know, they lived on an was it where

were the last mastadons? I want to I

think I want to say they lived on an

island

>> until like 10,000 years ago or something

like that cuz most of them died out.

They don't they don't know how they died

out, but the there's two theories. One

one theory is people killed them all,

which is a shaky theory.

Because it's people of 10,000 years ago

with [ __ ] sticks.

>> Were they around 10,000 years ago?

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They died.

>> We definitely did that then.

>> I don't think so. I think it was a

cataclysm. I think it was the same thing

that killed 65% of all megapa. That's

the problem. It killed so many different

animals like almost instantaneously.

Yeah, that's it.

>> 4,000 years ago. Wrangle Island, remote

Arctic island off Siberia's coast, had

the last woolly mammoth till about 4,000

years ago. Isn't that nuts? That's

nothing.

>> That's nuts. Yeah, that's like before

the pyramids were built.

>> It's

>> No, I mean after the pyramids are built

rather.

>> Similar time. Yeah. After.

>> Yeah. After the pyramids, allegedly. I

think they're probably built earlier

than that. But the uh official date is

2000.

>> Strange man with the beard. And the

>> Which one?

>> That man you had on to debate it who's

always clapping back on Twitter and

going like there's nothing funny about

the

>> Oh, Flint Devil.

>> Yeah. I don't want to invoke his eye. I

don't want him. He's got a lot of time

and a lot of

>> I actually enjoyed talking to him about

nonarch

non you know ancient history related

stuff. He has some interesting things

about seeds like he does a lot of work

in seeds.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah. No, it's it's actually really

interesting how

>> the history of seeds.

>> Yeah. When so say if you have a wild

plant they can tell the difference

between a wild plant and an

agriculturally grown plant. Yeah. And

the way is the seeds change. So when you

have a wild seed, it is uh more

conducive to the growth of the plant if

the seeds break off easier and scatter

and and they they get into the ground

easier. So they they break free of the

plant. But then when you use

agriculture, the seeds don't become

important for the creation of new plants

because you're always taking the seeds

anyway and planting the seeds, right? So

those seeds are seeds are more robust

and they hang on more.

>> Yeah. So you could you could tell by

looking at the actual seeds themselves

whether it's an agriculturally based

seed or whether it's a wild seed.

>> That is good. I hadn't thought about

that.

>> Yeah, it's it was really cool. That part

was cool. The the the shittiness is not

cool and calling Graham Hancock a

racist. They do that with like everyone.

Everyone who has anything to say about

the historical narrative that doesn't

fit into exactly what they're teaching

or what they have been teaching. They're

like so unwilling to accept that there's

any alternative timeline. But they keep

getting [ __ ] because over and over

again they keep finding these new things

that are older and older.

>> Yeah.

>> Like go back was the big one. It happens

in every discipline.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. I mean it happens in comedy.

There's people that don't like new

comedians that are coming up. They don't

like what they're doing differently or

>> a thing last night about prop comedy.

Like everyone just stopped doing prop

comedy at a certain point.

>> Well, it's Kerat.

>> It's because of Katov. And also because

the bullying you would receive right

>> at the moment for having props. There's

one Rick Glassman. Am I getting his name

right?

>> I don't know. But he had some props and

he was really funny and he got away with

it. But he's the only person in America

other than Carrot Top I've seen with any

props.

>> Well, when I started out there was a

bunch of guys who had props. There was a

there was a bunch of guys who had props

and it was fun. It was fun to watch.

There was uh God

Dr. Whidd, I forget his name. Dr. Whiz,

I forget his name, but he was a a guy

when I first started out in like the

1980s. He had props and he was good. He

was a funny comic.

>> It'll be cyclical. It'll come back. Like

ladies with ukuleles had to go away for

a time. It was necessary that we purge

ukulele women from comedy.

>> How many were there?

>> Oh my god. I don't know. That was Is

this him?

>> Dr. The Legendary Whit.

>> That's it. Legendary wid. Yeah, that's

the dude. And he uh would do like

science-based humor. He was a funny guy.

So, this is, you know, I saw him in like

88,

>> 88, 89. But the point was that guy was

really funny when he started busting out

the props.

>> Yeah.

>> And uh and we were like I was like, why

don't you just do props?

>> This is your thing.

>> Yeah. like that kind of humor, his kind

of humor, it's almost like it's missing

something in just the just the straight

standup form.

>> There's like there's waves of things

become trendy and then people who can't

really do it very well jump onto it and

then it gets lame and people stop doing

it.

>> Well, a lot of it is one guy gets really

successful doing it and then that

becomes his thing.

>> We had a run of people pretending to be

[ __ ] in Australia. It was like how

hard did they try?

>> Uh really hard. Were they on the border

and just like slowed it down a little?

>> Weird sweaters. People having like

fireworks that they would fire into

themselves and everyone would like come

out with cards and read their act.

>> That's what happens when you take away

everyone's guns.

>> They're trying to take them away again

again.

>> They already took them all away and then

somehow we still had a massive shooting

>> and now the response is, well, maybe we

could

>> take even more of them away.

>> Um, what was the nationality of the

people that caused the shooting? The son

I think was born in Australia and the

dad there was a big fight over it on

Twitter where people were going he's

Pakistani and the

>> I remember that but I didn't I don't

anymore. I don't anymore. I don't get in

there.

>> The big argument was over the religion

of the hero who took one of the guns

away.

>> So like the cops were apparently

cowering. That's the narrative. I don't

know. But one guy ran up and it's a

great video of a guy like he he runs at

a guy with a gun and wrestles the gun

off him and aims the gun at him and lets

he does let the guy get away. He doesn't

want to kill him,

>> which is kind of crazy. The guy just

killed how many people?

>> Oh, and then I think the guy gets a gun

and goes on killing people. But he Yeah,

but he's not a killer. This guy who

wrestled the gun off him, he was just

heroic

>> in the head with the butt like in the

movies.

>> I don't know what I I mean I wouldn't I

wouldn't have ever run up to a man with

a gun. I would have been out of there.

But the argument was what religion was

the guy who took the gun because people

on the right really didn't want him to

be a Muslim. They were like it was a

huge thing on X of people.

>> People on the right didn't want him to

be

>> because it was Muslim shooters. But then

it it looked like he was a his name was

like Ahmed Dal Ahmed or something.

>> But hold on. Why would the people on the

right not want him to be a Muslim?

>> Because then you can go this is a Muslim

thing. Muslims were doing the shooting

and we can just go let's deal with the

Muslims.

>> Oh, you mean the people the guy who

captured the guy? the guy who wrestled

the gun off. He was also a Muslim, which

then makes it like

>> a heroic. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, his name is like Muhammad

Muhammadson.

>> Imagine being a regular Muslim and

having to deal with these crazy

modifications.

>> There he is.

>> That guy.

>> Yeah. People love him. But man,

>> shoot the guy in the foot. If you didn't

want to kill him, shoot him and blow his

[ __ ] ankle.

>> No one can really do that. And it's a

big Look at him go.

>> Oh, that's amazing.

>> And he doesn't do anything.

>> So the guy just gets away. The guy does

get away.

>> Oh, this is not good.

>> But then after he lets him get away, I

think he drops the gun and he goes away

and then he gets shot again in the arm.

>> Who knows what to do when there's a live

>> Yeah. You don't know what to do. Well,

that's a a good person. That's a good

person.

>> He is a national hero at the moment. And

uh I think if he had

>> Man, people wanted him to be a Marinite

Christian so bad. The Gropers were

desperate for him to be. There was a lot

of people going, "Well, actually,

>> you know, that's the real problem we

have in this country. We want to pretend

that people actually exist in groups.

Even if there's high percentages of

people from groups that are doing bad

things, this there's still a giant

percentage that are not. And to alienate

all those people by just lumping it all

in as one group together. Imagine like

imagine you're a peaceful Muslim and you

have to deal with this [ __ ] and you're

like, "Guys, I just want to pray. I'm

just trying to like find oneness with

God. That's all I'm trying to do."

>> I love twirling.

>> Yeah,

>> I'm one of the twirling ones. They're my

favorite ones personally.

>> What's a twirling?

>> The twirling dervishes. They just love

twirling. They love to twirl.

>> But the

>> twirling. I was trying to figure out

what you were saying.

>> Twirling. But this is what's we So after

that, the government comes out and is

like cracking down on right-wing

extremism

>> cuz it's a lefty government. And they

go, "We have a clearly we have a problem

with right-wing extremism." So now

they're trying to reclassify

like you know globalized infot jihadism

as a form of right-wing extremism which

I'd never which like yeah I guess it's

not commy stuff but

>> well you have to look at it on paper

objectively it is

>> yeah but I don't know how much they hang

out I don't know if these guys I don't

think these guys are reading like

>> I don't know William FBuckley Jr. It's

still Let's break down what is rightwing

then.

>> Okay,

>> let's say this, okay? Do they want to

completely control women's behavior and

completely dictate whether or not the

woman can leave the house with certain

clothes on, what they're allowed to do,

>> right?

>> Yeah.

>> That's kind of kind of a right-wing

thing, isn't it?

>> Yes.

>> Total religious adherence. They want a

religious state.

>> Yeah, but the Taliban want to dance with

little boys. That seems like a left

separate breakoff group. They're like

the Baptists.

>> They're like the Catholics. You know

what I mean? You got your regular

Christians and then you got some other

[ __ ] that are out there running

wild with new rules. Mormons. How about

this?

>> Mormons. Yeah. You know, but that's what

I'm saying. It's like their breakoff

group. It's not the ones who are banging

the boys. That's not normal.

>> There's a lot of guys out there that are

Muslim that are not banging boys. So,

when you connect them with the Taliban,

they're like, "Hey, bro. I'm just

praying over here.

>> It's all people just trying to have fun.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Who am I to judge anybody?

>> The problem is then you push when you

push these people. It's the same thing

that happens when you call everyone a

racist. What do you get? You get a Nick

Quentes. You get a guy who emerges who's

got the balls to [ __ ] talk and have fun

and say wild things that are very

inappropriate and sometimes racist.

That's what you get. You get someone

embraces that guy because you've been

told you're a racist just for being

white. Yeah.

>> You know, you've been told there's

something wrong with you. white male.

Like I there was a time where someone

would say something in comments all the

time. I would watch these people arguing

and someone it was a common thing to say

uh as a white man I think you should

probably shut your [ __ ] mouth. Like

as a white man like you're a white man

you're disqualified from having an

opinion on something because you are a

white man.

>> Yeah.

>> It's another form of racism. It's just

an accepted form of racism that's really

weird. But then you like so like Nick

Fuentes is getting all his other ideas

through as well because he was the only

person saying things that the average

person would think was kind of normal.

>> Well, I've been thinking about this

wasn't a lot of the stuff he's saying he

that was not something the average

person would think is normal. you sneak

your other weird stuff through like when

everyone's going right

>> um you know like when he says when he's

getting attacked for going like a black

neighborhood is going to be more violent

on average in America you go

>> yes I've traveled around the country and

that is I think there's a long history

for why that's true

>> well it's factually correct

>> that seems to be correct

>> the the question is though why and

that's where it gets uncomfortable yeah

>> because the the real reason for why is a

a host of factors but the primary one is

crime and poverty. The primary one is

they live in a community that's filled

with crime and poverty. Yes. And if you

have a and drugs and if you have a

community where people are selling drugs

and it's crime and poverty, you're going

to get a lot of violence. Whether it's

an Italian community, Armenian

community, any community where you got a

lot of crime and a lot of poverty.

>> I first came here, I went to Appalachia.

>> People are going to get killed.

>> There are white people doing crazy crazy

things.

>> You ever see the Wild Wonderful Whites

of West?

>> I watched it like a week ago.

>> [ __ ] amazing. The most charismatic

family I've ever seen.

>> Knoxville did that, didn't he?

>> Yeah. Executive producer.

>> Yeah, bro. That

>> made me feel so homesick. Look, like I

was only there for a couple months. I

wanted to go back so bad.

>> The dance and outlaw.

>> His when they're like granddaddy had a

new way of dance and it's the most

insane.

You're like, was that really going to

take off?

>> It did.

>> Was that the style of dance,

>> bro? When you're on meth, it's awesome.

>> I mean, meth dance to stay with.

>> Oh, they were on everything.

>> They were on the lot. The How about the

lady? I'm always been thought of as a

sexy one. She was a stripper. Remember

her? The voice. I did a big deep dive on

Wikipedia about them afterwards.

>> She stomped a kitten.

>> Which one's dancing here?

>> This is Jessco. American Outlaw.

>> Jessco.

>> Okay. He's the younger guy.

>> He's uh

>> Jess lives out the legacy.

>> Excuse me.

>> He's He's like He keeps the dancing

alive. He's the one who's a celebrity in

the show,

>> right? But then there's another

documentary about him and in both

documentaries he complains about a woman

making his eggs wrong.

>> Yeah, that's that dude. Yeah,

>> he's got it. He's a charismatic guy.

>> Yeah, he he said he would cut her if she

gave him ruddy eggs. I was like

>> sloppy eggs.

>> Settle down, bro. Like maybe we

shouldn't be celebrating this.

>> But I think I think one of them just got

out of prison. I think the one who at

the start of that

>> documentary I hope Trump got him out.

>> Who got out? What did he do?

>> The one who uh shot his uncle in the

right.

>> Yeah,

>> I think he just got That's the sexy one.

>> I've always been the sexiest one in the

family. Listen to what she said. How the

way she says it though. The voice is

incredible.

>> Just pictures.

>> Yeah, I think that sexy one. I think she

did get in trouble for stepping on a

cat.

>> Well, there was a thing in that film

that was interesting though towards the

end where you see like some of them are

trying to like move away from that life.

That girl, one girl got sober. So, there

was like a take to it where they

realized like, hey,

>> this is not sustainable. this is a crazy

way to live. I'm a mother. Like, what am

I doing, you know? And she was trying to

get out of it, which I think a lot of

people do come to the realization if

you're in that kind of a community, I

got to get the [ __ ] away from these

crazy [ __ ] and stop doing meth.

>> It is. Yeah. I think, but it's how do

you do it? See, this is the thing. This

is the thing when you say like, is it is

it true that there's a higher percentage

of murders that occur in black

communities? Right. Right. But as

opposed to poor communities, like what

about like in deeply impoverished

communities? Like, and then when you

introduce a history of gang violence and

crime and no one ever does anything to

stop it, it's going to stay the same.

Whether it's in Appalachia or whether

it's

>> the Hatfields and the McCoys, all those

[ __ ] that were killing each

other back in the Wild West days. I

mean, it's probably horrible back then.

Why? Because they let it be that way.

Nobody did anything about you couldn't

stop them. And I think some of the

solutions for it are very bad. This is

my I don't want to speak out of turn

because it's not my country, but like

when I've been driving through

>> people love to come to America and tell

us what to do.

>> I love it.

>> I I think it's the greatest country in

the world. And I repeat that again. When

I drive through like a bad area and

there's like a Planned Parenthood with a

line around the block

>> and things set on fire. And you can just

tell like

>> I know that Planned Parenthood started

out as a eugenicist organization where

they went like that was the lady who

founded it. That was her thing. And you

can really see in those neighborhoods,

it's like if you have a child here,

you're going to be tied to this

community. We want you to get out. We

want people who have the spirit to get

out of here and to live a good full life

in America, not to be tied down to being

in like a really difficult crime riddled

area.

>> Yeah.

>> So abort your children so you can get

out seems to be the

>> I think they're still doing the

eugenicis thing of being like just be

free for different reasons. is not cuz

they want to dilute the numbers in the

population or whatever, but because they

go, you've got to be a free person who

can leave and children will tie you to a

place.

>> Yeah, that's a way to look at it. That

was when I was driving through I forget

what Wisconsin, northern Wisconsin, I

don't know. I just hit with this. So, oh

man, it's like usually the the rough

area of a town is lifted up by a freeway

in America. Like you don't see if you

drive into Chicago, you're just way up

here on a freeway and then you come down

into like the most beautiful buildings

you've ever seen in your life and people

go it's very scary over in the other

part of Chicago and you go I never saw

it. I was

>> above it and

>> I was 30 ft in the air.

>> Yeah.

>> But in some places I have driven through

it and I've gone or I've stopped and you

go there's

>> someone's like if I lived here I mean

there are some areas that are so rough.

It's like, man, if I lived here, I would

go and steal and kill from the people

who live 20 minutes up the road for

sure. Do you know? Like, you just drive

20 minutes up the road and there's a

German town and everything's perfect and

everyone's rich and everyone's beautiful

>> and you

>> This doesn't happen in

>> I don't know. I'm from a very flat

country by comparison. The highs and

lows here are incredible.

>> Oh, the highs and lows of what? You mean

>> America?

>> You mean poverty and wealth?

>> Yeah.

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from the Hamptons.

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>> Well, it's all of it's real close. I

used to say that like when I lived in

LA. I was like, you know, people like

this is a good neighborhood. I go,

right? But you know, people from a bad

neighborhood can just come into your

good neighborhood. You know about all

that, right?

>> When people are like, why do you have

dogs? Why do you have guns? I was like,

what? Like, do you watch the news? Yeah.

>> Are you [ __ ] crazy? Like, you got to

be careful out there. And most of the

time it's not going to happen to you.

The 99.99%

of people will never experience anything

awful. But to not have any idea that it

could ever happen to you is bad. I think

the real problem, and this is the one

that just doesn't get addressed with any

politicians ever, is something massive

has to be done to stop

this like ancestral like this lineage of

people that are coming from these

crimeridden places. And no, no one

changes anything about it at all. We had

a cop on once from Baltimore and he was

telling us that while he was on on duty,

he found this uh like crime sheet, a

dock sheet of all the things that

happened in like 76 or something like

that. And he was reading all the areas

and all the crimes and and it dawned on

him. He's like, "Oh my god, like this is

the same crimes in the same area decades

later and nothing has changed.

>> They need to do something huge." like

treat that as if it's an untapped

resource of human potential because

that's what it is. All those people in

that community, if they had been born

and raised with different families in a

different place, completely different

outcome, a giant percentage of who you

are is dumb luck. And if the people that

got the worst luck to be born in a crack

house or be born in a place where

there's gang violence on the street

every day and you go to school and you

have to pick a gang, if you don't pick a

gang, the [ __ ] kill you. Like what

are you going to do? Like you're you're

not going to do anything but what

everybody else is doing. That's what

most people are going to do. The few

that are going to break out, maybe

they're musicians or an athlete or

something like that. They break out.

Yeah.

>> But for the most part, you're [ __ ]

But what it is is untapped and

unrealized human potential that's going

to waste on the most stupid [ __ ] [ __ ]

in the world.

>> I But then when you try and do something

like that in America, the push back is

huge. Like I think

>> why is what is the push back of

investing into communities? I would say

like in a small like I think the

National Guard going into some places.

>> Okay, that's different. So that's

>> that's what that's what it can look like

sometimes. Like there are definitely

that's what it can look like under this

administration.

>> Portland Yeah, there's got to be a

better way of doing it.

>> Well, it's you're just going to get too

much push back. But what you can't do is

let it get to the point where it's

feasible to call in the National Guard.

That's what's crazy. It's like their law

enforcement has been so handcuffed by

the the administrations, especially in

northwestern United States. Like

everybody, they don't get enough sun.

They lost their [ __ ] mind. Everyone's

depressed and everyone's trans. It's

crazy up there. It's crazy.

>> I was just in Portland. I was in

Portland just before the National Guard

went in and I was in Portland like

>> how insane.

>> It's so much

>> you can walk around a little little

>> after the National Guard.

>> I will like I know people were very

upset in Portland about that, but I

think just quietly they were going it's

kind of nice to the train station again.

>> The mayor in DC thanked Trump.

>> Yeah. Yeah, it's like that this is like

the safest it's ever been here since you

brought in the National Guard. Like, but

the problem is that sets a [ __ ]

precedent. So, here's the thing. If it's

necessary, let's say you have a place

that's a literal, not even a real place,

a fictional place in America where

there's a literal gang war going on and

dozens of people are getting shot every

day and it's it's basically a war zone.

Let's just imagine a place like that.

you would say, "Okay, it's probably a

good idea to bring in the military and

control that because the entire

population is at risk. It's very

dangerous. It's a literal war zone in

the middle of a modern American city. We

have to stop that." So, well, the thing

is if you people are lighting newspaper

stands on fire, people are doing this.

People are breaking into Starbucks.

Let's bring in the military. People

aren't obeying the speech laws. Let's

bring in the military. people are not

using their digital ID. Let's bring in

the military. It's like there's there's

got to be a separation between our army

and our civilians. And it has to be a

big [ __ ] reason to break that

separation. I think I mean you did it in

the 60s in the south when like busing

came sorry y all the United States when

when the when Jim Crow was happening in

the south

>> the military got sent in and people you

you desegregated the south by force

right

>> so that was deemed to be like an

appropriate use of

uh like a monopoly on violence to enact

a social change

>> like you're not going to have segregated

schools anymore we're going to have the

military there and make sure that this

works Yeah. Crazy you have to bring in

that the military to get people to allow

black people and white people to go to

school together.

>> I mean, yeah, they didn't want Well,

>> it's just so weird when I go to the

South now because everyone is so

friendly and people do seem to get along

and you go,

>> "Your grandparents were like

>> brother had to rip the craziest stuff."

>> Well, it's terrible. I mean, that EMTT

Till I just found out about that after I

got here. It's unbelievable. And they

were still shooting the EMTT till Till

statue that they put up. They had to

like replace it with a bronze statue so

the bullet holes wouldn't affect. That's

what was going on.

>> I believe that was what was happening

until like quite

>> sure it wasn't just one KKK dude that

ruined one dude.

>> You know what I'm saying? That's the

problem. You get one wacky guy in a

neighborhood and you that's a racist

neighborhood. They were shooting the

Emtt Till statue. Maybe it's one [ __ ]

working the tire shop.

>> You know, one [ __ ] dude smelling his

own farts and loading up his rifle. that

one Arkansas MMA fighter who kept saying

that he loved Hitler did a did a lot did

a lot to hurt the reputation of that

football team. He always had the

Razerbacks in the back.

>> Yeah, that wasn't a I think he did not

phrase that well. I think

>> I think uh I think there's a lot of

people here's the thing. There's a lot

of people that become experts and I'm

guilty of this as well by uh you're

you're talking about something where you

maybe watched a YouTube video, you know

what I mean? Like maybe you uh maybe you

read an article about it. It's some

[ __ ] Politico, who knows? Who knows

where you read it? Some it could be some

crazy right-wing source. You read

something, you took it as fact, and then

you talk to a bunch of other people that

also take it as fact. And next thing you

know, you start talking and

>> you have the biggest show in the world

>> saying [ __ ] Yeah, that's me.

>> Okay. But people always criticize that.

People always have a go at the

podcasters for like spouting off on

things that they're not.

>> That is what I do.

>> But how come there's no responsibility

on the mainstream legacy media for

having gotten really really boring over

the last

>> not just 15 20 years.

>> Boring is I would say lying as well.

Completely compromised. Totally

untrustworthy. Completely compromised. I

just got the New York Times app because

I thought I'll have a look at that. I

finally got enough money where I can pay

a dollar a week to be on the New York

Times app.

>> Yeah.

>> And it's so um I mean it's just they've

built Twitter like the experience of it

and the scrolling on it. It feels like

you're in Twitter but only mediated

through

>> selected journalists from the New York

Times and suddenly you're like I'm just

stepping into for a moment whatever

bubble that is. I just I wanted to take

a look at it. It's in it's like

>> I think they're all going to have to

course correct. I think they're all

going to have to realize that it's not

it's not being intellectual like a true

intellectual, a true progressive by only

looking at things from one perspective

and to automatically assume that anybody

that has a different perspective.

>> Hey, we're back.

>> There we go.

>> Where was I?

>> You're so they need to have a course

correction.

>> We're talking about the mainstream media

and that they've lost that many people.

That's what I was saying was that you

you can't proclaim yourself to be

intellectual by only listening to one

perspective and to being like very

aggressive and hostile about the other

perspective. Immediate ad homonyms,

immediate attacks on, you know, lumping

everyone in together, associating like

we were talking about earlier,

associating ancient history with racism.

Like, you're doing that. It's a little

trick you're doing. You're not having a

real conversation. you're being a [ __ ]

And this kind of communication sucks. It

sucks for the left. It sucks for the

right when people on the right. It sucks

for It's a bad human communication

uh skill. If you were good at it, you

would want other people to have

different opinions and you'd want to

hear those opinions and talk to those

people.

>> I think they're trying to course

correct. This is what's weird to watch

is they're And it's who they're

>> I don't want to they they love Schultz

at the New York Times.

>> Well, he goes on.

>> They've picked him. Yes. They picked

>> He goes there and talks to them. Yeah.

Well, he's very starv.

>> Yeah. Well, they also they just

pretended that it didn't exist.

>> Do you see Schultz talk to them though?

>> On the round table.

>> Yeah. Yeah. It was great.

>> It's hilarious because he they're

talking in these [ __ ] terms. Yeah.

And he's like, "Hold on, you know, let's

just talk real here."

>> He goes, "The Jews."

And everybody laughs cuz he can cuz he's

a comedian.

>> He's he's allowed to be funny.

>> Yeah. And there was a there was another

one that he did with another guy, I

forget from one other mainstream media

publication. It was the same sort of

situation. And to have it that way where

it's a one-on-one conversation. Then you

get to see like the weird way that they

actually think and communicate. the

bubble like Tim when Tim Dylan was on

>> the CNN one. I was gonna say that's why

I moved my ring because she kept asking

the she didn't want it. They resisted

releasing that as a long form thing

>> and you can see why cuz she's asking the

same question three or four times in a

row to try and bait something which is

not how a conversation works.

>> They pressured them into putting the

whole thing out.

>> She keeps going real come on real just

to get him cuz he's a fun guy and he

wants to say something funny and she's

like baiting him to say something

>> exaggerated.

>> Yeah. John Stewart had the best uh

response to this whole thing. He was

talking to some guy from the New Yorker

and they were talking about this podcast

and he's like, you know, they were

talking about different opinions and

people different people that I've talked

to and he's like, but Joe Rogan has the

biggest audience in the world. He has a

a bigger audience. He's like, well, go

get a big audience.

>> Yeah,

>> go get it.

>> It's not like they don't have the

finances.

>> You just go go figure it out, do it

right, and you'll get a big audience.

Like it's not that [ __ ] complicated.

I don't have pyrochnics. There's no CGI.

There's not even a crew. There's a

skeleton crew of people who do this. But

I think I think some of it is the it's

this like ivory tower mentality of if

if it becomes like that they think there

is a there is a sense in people who have

got like a very big education and have

gone through the

>> whatever system you have to jump through

to get to an elite legacy thing is that

most people are too stupid to

>> to have like an open and honest

conversation with and that if stupid

people like you then that's a problem

that that's how they're viewing the

world and that there's Well, there's

they're also being in the world in that

they're protecting people from opinions

they don't agree with.

>> Even though they listen to those

opinions, it has no effect on their

position. They take the same position,

but they're worried that people dumber

than them. It's a very condescending

thought process.

>> They think that you're the only

open-minded person.

>> And not only that, and people that are

dumber is, which is most people, you're

you're going to fall into the trap of

what this person's saying that I don't

agree with.

>> And there's Yes.

>> Yeah. And that if you and that the only

way to get people to listen to you is to

like spin lies. Like you can't just be

honest.

>> Which is what I think the podcasting

thing is.

>> It's what it is. It's a long it's you

can't really put on a facade for 3 hours

talking to somebody.

>> Maybe you can.

>> I I think that might be who he is at

this point.

>> Yeah, he is definitely that. Well,

that's why I wanted to do a podcast with

him. So you could say three hour. By the

way, no questions beforehand, no prep,

didn't pee, sat there for three hours.

He's almost 80. Like if he was wearing a

diaper, respect. But the guy just

[ __ ] hung out for 3 hours. Does that

mean I agree with everything he does?

[ __ ] no. Of course not.

>> But he was able to be himself for three.

He was able to talk for three hours.

Whereas Carmela wouldn't do it.

>> Well, she could have she could have done

it. I'm telling you, man.

>> Six minutes on Steven Colbear. And I

don't think

>> it's different. It's different. He's

kind of being like an interviewer,

right? He's in this weird position where

he's at a desk. The desk is beside you

for some reason because that's how they

always used to do it. So these [ __ ]

uncreative people just do it the exact

same way always. It doesn't make any

sense. Why does he have a desk? Is he

writing?

>> What does he have? Does he have pens in

the drawer? Like what are we doing here?

Like why am I on a couch over here? Why

am I sitting down like to the right of

you? It's weird. It's always in the same

position. Host is always to the right.

They're always to the left of the

screen. It's goofy, right? So he's doing

this thing that you only do on

television in front of an audience. By

the way, you should never have a

conversation in front of an audience

because as soon as you do, the people

are aware of the audience. You're aware

of how people think and feel and you're

playing to them and some people say

things to try to get a rise out of you

in front of the audience. Like,

>> yeah,

>> if you want to do that, it's a different

thing. But if you're going to have like

a really important conversation with

someone, you don't want to do it in a

[ __ ] audience. So, Stephen, the way

he's doing his handicap from the jump.

Also, you only have seven minutes before

you have to cut for commercial or

whatever it is. You can't do that. you.

It'll take you me seven minutes to ask

what she likes to cook. I want to know

what she who she I don't know. I want to

know does is there anything that she

regrets doing? Is she ever what does she

learn from this time? Is it more

complicated being a vice president than

you thought it was going to be? Like

what is the web of trying to fix things

and change things versus the people that

are influencing you to make decisions?

Cuz we're not pretending that people

don't spend a lot of money to influence

your decisions. So, how much of an

effect does it have? What do you

actually believe when they come to you

asking for those favors?

>> What would it what would be better?

Could we take money out of politics?

Would you be willing? Would what would

what would we do if we completely

eliminated corporate funding of any

politicians? How would that change

everything? Those are the kind of

questions we could have like we could

have talked for hours about that.

>> But they don't she doesn't want to do

that. And the people around her this is

what I there's like there's something

that has the right used to have this as

well and both sides of politics had it.

And I remember there was like Howard

Dean, I think it was, did a weird scream

at one time and the whole thing fell

apart and that really stayed with me

that I remember watching politics and

there was some sense of like everything

is very manufactured and if you make a

single mistake, oh my god, you're going

to lose a primary, it's all over. And

Trump destroyed that with the

Republicans

>> where it all became very we've just got

to like hang out and talk and everyone

got very loosey goosey on the right and

the Democrats have not adjusted to that

and had their

>> like Bernie could do it. They just froze

Bernie out and they did everything they

could to stop him coming through,

>> right? Like Marjorie Taylor Green, you

could not have a person like that before

Trump. That would There's no way.

There's no way.

>> I mean, you can't have her with She's

gone.

>> She's gone now.

>> She's gone. But she wouldn't have

existed without him. Like that sort of

brash crazy personality that had not

existed in a congressperson.

>> And there will be someone on the left

who can do that.

>> Jasmine Crockett, she's doing that,

>> man. Maybe

>> she gets aggressive loud and they get

crazy with each other. Listen, it's a

reality show. I know people don't like

her. I think she's hip. She would maybe

come on the show.

>> Mhm. Okay.

>> Have you invited her to come on the

show?

>> No.

>> I listen.

>> I'm too scared to have me on the show.

>> I think uh a lot of them are probably

very nice people. Very nice people

there. And this is not a an attack on

any individuals. I think that system

turns you into a sociopath. That's what

I think. And I think there's very few

people Tulsi Gabbard, my friend being

one of them. I love her. She's amazing.

She's a real person. Like that lady is

the same person on air, off air, meeting

people, hanging out with her husband.

I've hung out with her hours and hours

and hours. That's who she is. She's cool

as [ __ ] And she was a congressperson,

but she has horror stories. Yeah. when

she tells you like what it's like on the

inside and when she when you find out

how these people are making hundreds of

millions of dollars on a $170,000 a year

salary and no one's batting an eye. That

is kind of kooky. That's it's kind of

kooky cuz even ones you wouldn't suspect

like wait a minute they're worth how

much now you don't really know how much

they're worth, right? You you're you'd

have to you'd have to get an audit,

right? because what you're hearing is a

reporting of what they're worth. And it

could be total propaganda. It could be

half of what it is. But even if it's

millions, even if it's a couple million,

if you have if you've been a Congress

person for two years and now all of a

sudden you're worth $3 million and you

were in debt before you became a

Congress person, that's suspicious. And

if you look at the [ __ ] the people

that invest money, that's where it gets

really crazy because it is not a blue

thing and it's not a red thing. It's

both. Everybody is making money on the

stock market. There's a shitload of

these people that are buying a bunch of

stock and then conveniently

a short time later a bill gets passed

that they were working on that makes it

very profitable for that country. Stock

shoots through the roof. They make a

giant windfall. I'm trying to remember

who said it. There was some line that

someone said about like you can you can

sort of believe what you want in

American politics and you'll get rich

for it. Like no matter what you actually

believe, there's a group out there who

are going to get you rich for having a

belief in it.

>> Sure. If it's the environmental people,

if it's the fossil fuel people,

>> right?

>> I mean, there would be varying scales of

it, but also you can fix this. Like

there are ways to

>> to fix the money and politics.

>> I've been reading a lot about Lee Kuanu.

>> Who's that? He was the sort of the

dictator of Singapore. They might not

like that. Um because he won

>> Don't go there.

>> He won he won elections, but Singapore

is like a single party state.

>> Oh, so it's like when Putin wins.

>> I don't want to get in trouble with the

people of Singapore.

>> Listen, just

>> but it is notable that one party wins

every single time and they don't primary

and they win almost all the seats

>> and they are really popular. But he

brought in like canings and he got drugs

out of the country and he started paying

the politicians a lot.

>> Like if you're a politician in

Singapore, you get a huge salary, but

you are not to ever be corrupt. Like

you're meant to have enough money that

they can't really buy you

>> and that might be the only way cuz if

you have, you know, what are you what

are they earning? $170,000 something

dollars a year

>> to be a congressperson. If they are

making $3 million a year and the

punishment for taking money from anybody

else or from getting a stock, you know,

maybe you can't own stocks, but we give

you $3 million a year,

>> right?

>> Then at least you can't be swayed. Like

you're taking a lot of tax money to do

the job, but at least there's some

insulation on someone being able to go,

I want you to vote this way.

>> I think if you have a totalitarian

dictatorship, you could probably pull

that off because if the politician is

bad, you could shoot him. Yes. The

problem in America, if you have $3

million and you know a guy who's got $50

million, you feel poor because we're

[ __ ] All right. Brian Ken has a

friend who's worth I think he's worth $8

billion and uh he feels broke cuz his

friend is worth 30.

>> I don't

>> No, no, no. For real. Yeah. There's

people that get that goofy.

>> I've met I've seen it a couple times.

So, if you're in the business of trying

to make money, which is what most

politicians are, that's like they

decided not to go into sales, they go

into politics, they're trying to make as

much money as they can while they're

there, right? That's what most people

are doing with most jobs. If you're

doing that and you're you're just kind

of a a person who's drawn to that kind

of a job, you're not going to be happy

with your salary. If you find out that

there's some NGO that you can invest in

and you can start a nonprofit and then

it becomes a profit and you can funnel

mo money overseas and then corporations

that you buy into also can use the you

know the laws that you're passing.

>> You're going to do it anyway. They're

going to do it anyway.

>> This is why Plato says

I cannot I cannot be corrupted. You'd

have to kill them. If you if you catch

them corrupt, you got to shoot them in

in front of everybody. You're going to

say, "This is what happens when you

steal from America." Boom. I'm not

saying you should do that, but I'm

saying that's the only way you're going

to stop it. It would have to be a

totalitarian dictatorship. But then it

brings us back to the thing about using

the military in the cities. When do you

draw the line?

>> Yeah.

>> When do you draw the line? Like when

like, okay, what's hate speech? Right.

So hate speech can mean a bunch of

different things to different people. So

as soon as you say we can't permit hate

speech, okay, well then you can't can't

permit freedom of speech because you're

just defining hate by whatever, that's

the same line when you bring the

military into those cities. It's the

same line. It's like you're doing

something you shouldn't be able to do

and you're justifying doing it, saying

because this is a special case, but the

problem is what if that gets solved?

You're going to move further to the even

more red. You've you've already got me

to allow you to arrest you can arrest me

for tweeting things. Okay. I've already

said yes to that. So, what else is next?

Like what? Well, you're going to you're

going to keep going. If you make money,

you want to going to want to make more

money. If you pass laws, you want to

want to pass more laws. That's how you

get numbers on the board. That's how you

win this [ __ ] game. You can't let

them ever score.

>> Then you have to deame the system long

term. If you're going to have a

democracy, you have to have

>> Yeah, you got to deame the system. But

the problem is there's so much profit in

it and they get to vote on whether or

not they can still do this insider

trading thing, right? Which is bananas.

Like who thinks we should still steal?

Oh, can we have an anonymous vote?

>> You don't have this problem with an

aristocracy. That's all I'm saying. If

you finally go back to the powdered wigs

and

>> there's a real there's a terrible

argument for that because you're just

hoping that the person is a benevolent

dictator. That's the best case scenario.

You get a benevolent king. But how how

many of those have ever existed?

>> We've had so many beautiful benevolent

kings. We've got a benevolent king right

now in my country.

>> It's um it's strange, right? It's like

there's no right way to run people

because no one really should be one.

There's never a time where it makes

sense where one person is the head dude

of 350 million people. That is nuts.

That is completely nuts.

>> Yeah. But you also I mean as a country

you have a great tolerance I think

compared to other like western

democracies for letting there be some

chaos.

>> Yeah. Because we're have we have guns.

That's part of it. I think this is a

heavily armed country.

>> Tolerating chaos allows you to have the

gun style. Like if you didn't have the

virtue of going some people are going to

get shot and we're going to be okay with

that.

>> Well, it's not just that. It's like, you

know, it was written into the

Constitution because we were rebelling,

right? We were we were rebelling from a

dictatorship. We had escaped. And when

we had declared that this was a country,

we were like, we got to stay strapped

because these [ __ ] might come

back. And we all agreed to that.

>> Yeah. And then it got to a point where

people go, "Okay, but they were talking

about musketss. Now people have AR-15s.

Now people have, you know, switches they

could put on Glocks and it can fire

automatic." Like

>> is a tactical nuclear weapon defended

under the Second Amendment.

>> You want to hear the scariest thing that

I heard.

>> This this was a guy that was talking

about uh the UAP program and the back

engineering of U flying saucers.

>> Yeah.

>> They what do they call it? A

simultaneous or a spontaneous what was

the word that he used for it?

instantaneous

>> instantaneous

>> that these UFOs that they believe use

some sort of a gravity

some sort of a propulsion system that's

unknown to modern science standard

conventional science and they can

transport literally transport like going

from place to place in space

instantaneously and so what did the

United States government try to do they

tried to use it as a method of

delivering a nuclear bomb so an

instantaneous nuclear your payload

delivery system. That's what they were

calling flying saucers. The the first

thing they thought about doing with them

was instantaneously deliver a nuke so no

one could retaliate and they didn't even

see it coming.

>> You would just have a flying saucer with

a nuke appear at the Kremlin.

What's weird though, you guys had that

capability for years

>> allegedly. No, I mean I mean when I mean

when no one else had the nuclear bomb

and when we didn't have good anti-air

programs

>> and just America alone had nuclear

weapons.

>> Yeah.

>> You could have at that point

>> you could have said we're in charge of

the world now or everyone's dead.

>> Well, there was a bunch of people that

did. I mean that's what Doctor Strange

love is all about, right?

>> You made movies about it and you talked

about it, but you didn't do it. When the

SZ crisis kicked off, I think Eisenhower

was like, "Can we get a nuke in there?"

And people said, "No, Mr. President."

>> Bro, they came real close to nuking

things three or four times. What a

beautiful thing that you

>> you held back.

>> Yes.

>> No one else would have. I talk about

this. I think about this a lot that like

if anyone else had discovered the

nuclear weapon, that's it. You'd have

global hegemony by one power.

>> Well, I think that is one thing about

America that

most people will agree to is that we

like to think of ourselves as being the

best country in America. And that comes

with responsibility. Being the greatest

superpower comes with responsibility.

That's why people get real uncomfortable

about like drone bombing statistics and

[ __ ] like that. They get real

uncomfortable because it makes you like

really question like what what we do.

>> Yeah.

>> When you you know when you tell people,

did you know that like more than 80% of

the people that die in drone bombings

are civilians?

Accidental kills.

>> Also every time someone tries to be nice

about Obama, then they have to go the

drone bombings to try and bomb a lot of

innocent people.

>> I know they always have to do that. You

know, listen, I think we found out

through Obama, most likely what you find

out through anybody that gets through

there that's not Trump is that they

immediately co-opt you into the system.

You had no idea how the system worked

until you got in there. You were a

senator for two years and then all a

sudden you're a president. You had some

amazing ideas and you're a great

spokesperson and probably the best

statesman we've ever had. like the best

representative of the best about

America. A guy who is from a single mom,

you know, grew up poor, didn't, you

know, didn't have a silver spoon in his

mouth. Forget about all the narratives

of him being nar related somehow to the

bushes. There's a lot of that.

>> I didn't know that.

>> Oh, there's like a whole conspiracy

theory. But point is that what you got

is a guy who was promoting hope and

change, right? And that's what we were

all really hoping was going to happen,

but not. It was really kind of like

another Bush term in terms of like

foreign policy, in terms of a lot of

things. In terms of like the way America

felt about America, though, it was good.

It was like, hey, racism has obviously

like stopped being an issue to get you

to be the president of the United States

because a a black man just won. And it's

not saying that racism doesn't exist,

but we're doing better than we used to

do. This was not possible when Martin

Luther King Jr. was making his I have a

dream speech, but it is possible now.

So, we have progressed and he's

brilliant. So, it's per and he's and

he's like well measured and calm and

peaceful and he never calls reporters

piggy.

>> He never he never makes me tweets when

his enemies die, you know, like so as a

representative. I'm not I it's gotten to

the point where the Rob Riner tweet just

went over it just like

>> it killed it for a lot of people. Yeah.

>> Is that it? But like No, I mean I saw it

and I was like, "Oh, yeah, of course

he's mocking a dead man." Well, that guy

tried to jail him for, you know, year

and this is not forgiving him for that.

This is not tried to jail.

>> Oh my god. There's a video of him

working with intelligence uh agents. He

was working with James Clapper and uh

who's the other guy? Clapper and

why how come I can't remember that?

>> I just I I still think it's a good

policy.

Oh, 100%.

>> Just it was with McCain as well. I

remember that they hated each other.

>> I know 100%. It's gross. It's a gross

thing to mock a man after he's dead.

It's just pointless. And but the the

real problem is it's a bad look for

America in general, right? It's a it's a

mark of cruelty that ultimately could

lead people to think differently about

America and perhaps motivate attacks.

That's a real thing. Like a kooky

person, you can sway them either way by

the vibe the country is giving off. And

the president is giving off a vibe that,

you know, his enemy, he's mocking the

fact that his,

>> you know, his enemy was obsessed with

him

>> and that's what led to his son going

crazy and killing him.

>> I've had friends come over and visit me

and almost all of them have been scared

to come. Like people who haven't been to

America before.

>> They're scared to come to America.

>> People are very scared to come to

America.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, this is like not Honduras. This is

just Australian like like there's gun

violence. It looks if you just if all

you're seeing is the the news, you go,

"Well, Civil War's

>> right around the corner."

>> Well, they want us to see and it's like

>> that's what they want to see.

>> People are way more interested in

college football than killing each other

in the street.

>> Especially in Texas, they're what

they're way most people are way more

interested in living their lives. The

problem is when your life becomes that.

The problem is when your life becomes a

cause. When your life, whether it's a

religious cause, you know, a jihadist

cause, a right-wing cause, a left-wing

cause, your life becomes a [ __ ]

cause. you know, we have to stop oil now

and you're gluing your [ __ ] hand to a

painting. You know, there's a lot of

nutty, stupid [ __ ] that goes on with

just being a human being

>> and it's all accelerated by social

media.

>> But I find it heartening that people

give a [ __ ] here.

>> That people know on some level, maybe

they don't have like a good grasp of

what's actually happening in the world.

>> But there's a sense in America that

people kind of know who their

politicians are. They're across what the

issues that they're being asked to vote

on are. And this like in Australia, the

extent to which people have no idea what

is going on and are so checked out and

don't know any of it and are not like

actively participating in democracy, you

guys really care. Like people primary

and they scrutinize people and they

there's some belief that you can still

get involved in politics here. I really

It's like the most heartening thing

about it is that and that's the that the

downside is if everybody cares then you

do get

>> you get people going off the deep end.

Well, you just got to keep it a fair

game. And as long as you keep it a fair

game, if you don't do a good job and

that person gets into power, you [ __ ]

up. So now your team has to regroup and

rebuild and come back again in four

years. And that's what it's supposed to

be. But when you start trying to do

things like moving all the illegals to

specific states so that you get more

congressional seats because of the

census and then you start giving them

social security numbers and Medicaid and

Medicare and you start rigging the

system because you want to like bring in

more voters and you're spending and this

is what they did. This is undeniable at

this point.

>> Fedman was cop to it. He was like yeah I

saw him on your

>> un it's undeniable what they did and I

get it like you're playing a dirty game.

They're playing a dirty game. And this

is not a right or left thing. I remember

that hacking democracy um documentary

that was on HBO back in the day. It was

during the Bush administration. And this

hacking democracy, they had tested these

voting machines and and this is a long

time ago, right? So this is like what

was it like 2004, Jamie? What was that?

>> Somewhere around then. So this this was

a much less sophisticated system that

I'm sure that they're using today. But

there was a third party input. For some

reason, it had been set up so a third

party can input data into the machine

and change the votes. And they did it on

TV. They did it on TV. They showed that

they could do it easily and they

affected the votes. So they showed back

then they were essentially saying that

the Bush administration had rigged the

vote and that's how they got Bush into

office. And this company that made these

machines was a big contributor to the

Republican party. So this [ __ ] has been

going on on both sides.

>> That was true. I mean in 2000 that was

true. Everybody thinks the JFK election

>> the film investigates Oh, for sure the

JFK election. The flawed integrity of

the electronic voting m voting machines,

particularly those made by Diebold

election systems, exposing previously

unknown backdoors in the DBOL trade

secret computer software. The film

culminates dramatically in the on camera

hacking of the inuse working dybold

election system in Leon County, Florida.

The same computer voting system which

has been used in actual American

elections across 33 states and which

still counts tens of millions of

American votes today. Whoa. Today

>> is that real?

>> The same [ __ ] machines

>> when it was written. I don't know

>> when did it when did this article come

out?

>> This is uh Wikipedia. I don't know.

>> It's usually up there.

>> Bro, that's crazy. If they're still

using the same machines, that's crazy.

>> But of like

>> But that was a thing during Georgia,

right? They were supposed to upgrade

their machines, but they decided to wait

until after the election to do it. Why

is there no pressure to make the

elections feel more real?

>> I think because they're both rigging it,

>> right? But if they're both rigging it,

then if neither of them was rigging it,

>> they just want to win, man. And then

call everybody conspiracy theorists.

Both sides, by the way, this is not one

side or the other. I think both sides

are trying to do whatever the [ __ ] they

can.

>> I don't think both sides rigging it.

>> Okay. It's not been used in business in

the US since 2009. Well, this is about

the Bush administration to die both

things. and what you're hearing about

mail and ballots, that's about the left.

It's like you're you're getting the same

thing on both sides. One of the things

that Rep. Luna said when she was on the

podcast, I thought was fascinating,

she's like, "There's certain problems

that they don't want to fix because they

can campaign finance against it.

>> They can like get people to donate money

against it."

>> Okay?

>> You know, like they could run on that

platform. We're going to fix this. Like

they don't want to fix it because that's

how they get money,

>> right? Like if you're a homelessness

organization, you actually need the

homeless so you can keep existing. Not

only that, it's even worse. They're

incentivized to have more homeless.

Yeah. They get paid per homeless.

>> It so if they have more homeless people,

they can say, "Hey, we need a bigger

budget. We have more homeless people."

>> I remember when we had the unemployed in

Austral.

But you got more money for finding

someone a job if they've been unemployed

for a longer period of time. So it's

like don't try too hard to find them a

job for the first two years. All right.

Two years in, then get them a job.

>> Yeah. growing some plants. You don't

want to pick it so early.

>> Yeah, it's not.

>> I don't think the answer is just a a a

good king who solves everybody's

problems, but I really do.

>> You'd be a good king. Watch. Go over to

Australia and be king of Australia.

>> We've got enough problems.

>> You can fix it.

>> Uh

I've talked about getting our own king

many. I did a show about it once. I

really I think Aboriginal king would be

>> Well, everybody bring the country

together.

>> Yeah, for sure. that'll work for

everybody wants like the perfect system

and it's not going to ever exist and I

don't think it ever will because I think

there's always going to be no matter

what happens no matter who's in charge

and no matter who's doing this there's

always going to be people that oppose no

matter what naturally oppose even if

illogically there's it's never going to

be perfect but you got to make it the

most fair it's got to be fair and as

soon as you catch someone rigging the

system you got to that has to be a alarm

bells that go off for everybody on every

side. It shouldn't If you find out that

there was mail-in ballots that were

illegal and that were fake and they were

brought in so that the Republicans can

win some sort of a primary. If you found

out that was true and you're a

Republican, you're supposed to be upset.

>> Yeah.

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>> You got to make it seem fair enough so

that there's not a violent uprising.

It's got to be

>> like just for having a future of the

country.

>> It's got to be the will of the people.

It's got

>> January 7th thing.

>> Yeah,

>> that was people going No, but that was

that was those people that was a lot.

There were some people there who were

definitely feds trying to bring them in

the building.

>> Dude, I I wonder how many were feds

before that. Here's the question.

There's a bunch of people that were feds

at the scene. They finally had to admit

that. We were talking about that for the

capital.

>> Yeah,

>> that man's Have you seen that guy?

That's crazy.

>> It's crazy. There's a bunch of people

that called people to go into the

capital to break in and a bunch of them

probably were feds. But how many feds

were on these chat groups? How many feds

were on message boards? How many feds

were instigating people to do things and

talking about things that aren't true or

saying things that they're pl how many

how many feds were trying to get the

kookiest of the kookie riled up?

>> Yeah. But then also like why why is the

blame not on why do the Democrats not go

we've contributed to making a system

that even if this is a totally

legitimate like group of people who

really believe what they're doing by

storing the capital

>> we've contributed to building a system

that looks really fake to a lot of

people

>> where we could take really easy steps to

make it look less fake like you could

have

>> I don't understand why voter ID isn't

everywhere and they go well not everyone

has an ID well it's racist

>> give them one

>> it's racist what you're saying is racist

How hard could it be to go

>> check your white privilege? You are a

straight white male. Why don't you just

shut the [ __ ] up?

>> All the other races can have a

photograph taken of themselves just as

easily on a little lemonade card.

>> All those other races just a few years

ago needed proof of vaccination. So this

is kooky. It's completely kooky.

>> It would be I but then nothing has been

done now to actually bring it in.

>> It's illegal to show your ID in

California.

>> What?

>> Where? Where?

>> California.

>> In the state. cannot show your ID when

you vote.

>> Even if you want to,

>> you can't show it.

>> You can't wear it on a lanyard around

your neck.

>> They'll fire you. They'll kick you out

of there.

>> You can't vote now, sir. I don't know

what they would do if you came in with a

lanyard. That might be the move. But the

point is, they made it easier to cheat

on purpose. Like, that's the only reason

why you would do that. And to say like

it's racist to require ID. How do I know

who you are? I don't know you. There's a

million people in this [ __ ] town. And

this is like one polling station is a

line around the block. I don't know you.

I need your ID. This is crazy.

>> There was a clip from the Obama election

that I remember watching where they were

talking to a guy who was like they asked

him, "Have you ever voted before?" He

said, "No." "Did you vote?" He goes,

"Yeah, it felt so good. I went back and

did it again and then they cut off to

somebody else." I've always remembered

that that felt

>> Yeah. If you don't have ID, you could

just change your clothes and go back in.

especially if you're a nondescript.

You know,

>> I don't have an anti-Gavin Newsome bent,

but I don't understand why he's the guy

the Dems are pushing

>> because

>> he's from a state that everybody agrees

is in a huge disrepair.

>> He doesn't agree that he thinks it's

killing it.

>> They can't build a train.

>> No, no, it's great.

>> They've wasted billions of dollars

trying to get a reasonably short

distance covered with a train and he

can't do it.

>> They're going to get it worked out. He's

going to be president and then he's

going to fix it all. The problem is

Trump. The reason why it's Trump, Trump

is the real reason why California's

failed is Trump. Once he gets into

office, Trump will be out and he'll fix

the whole country. And see, guys, you

got to trust me on the long plan.

People will buy into it. The reason why

is because there's no one else. This is

the reason.

>> There must be so many force so many

people that are rational out. So many

people that aren't corrupt, they force

them out. And then other people don't

want their laundry dug up. They don't

want fake stories told about them. They

don't want ex-girlfriends to get paid

off to come up with crackpot theories of

them being a satanic person or whatever,

drug addict, abusive.

>> All right, this only people who

>> left a dead bear in the park.