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Today's number three. That's how many

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feet far the horned lizard can squirt

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blood out of its eyes. This strange act

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is a biological defense mechanism that

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keeps all predators away. All except for

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Army Hammer.

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Welcome to Profy Markets. I'm Edson. It

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is January 8th. Let's check in on

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yesterday's market vitals. The S&P 500

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and the Dow lost steam, ending the day

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in the red. The Nasdaq rose. Shares in

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homebuilders fell after President Trump

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said he'd ban institutional investors

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from buying single family homes.

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Blackstone, a major investor in the

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asset also fell as much as 9%. Trump had

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a busy day. He also said he won't allow

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defense companies to issue share

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buybacks and dividends. That sent

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defense stocks down with Loheed Martin

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dropping 5%. And finally, the yield on

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tenure treasuries fell after ADP private

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jobs data showed that hiring rose

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moderately in December. Okay, what else

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is happening?

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Fresh off the extraction of Venezuela's

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president, President Trump has turned to

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another target, Greenland. The president

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first proposed buying the Denmark

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territory back in 2019, but now he says

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the US quote needs Greenland for

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national security. The White House said

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it's weighing a range of options to

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acquire the island and hasn't ruled out

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the use of military force. That

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triggered sharp push back from European

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leaders who insisted that quote

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Greenland belongs to its people. So why

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is Trump fixated on this territory and

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what does it mean for markets? Here to

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help us understand what is happening,

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we're speaking with Graceland Basaran,

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director of the critical mineral

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security program at the Center for

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Strategic and International Studies.

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Graceland, thank you for joining us on

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Profy Markets.

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>> Thanks so much for having me.

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>> President Trump wants to go in. He says

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he wants to consider using military

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force to acquire Greenland. Let's just

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start with your initial reactions

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uh to this news and then let's get into

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what resources they have and why he's

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going after them.

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>> President Trump's focus on Greenland is

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actually aligned with his broader

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approach to foreign policy. What we saw

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starting January last year was actually

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a realignment of our foreign policy very

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closely tied to critical minerals. In a

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way, it feels a bit like we're playing a

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real life game of Settlers of Katan. So

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if you think about foreign policy

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announcements on Ukraine, Greenland,

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Democratic Republic of Congo, Argentina,

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minerals is featured in every one of

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those discussions. And a lot of this

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hinges on the fact that we are really

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contending with the fact that China has

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a dominance on the critical minerals

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that we need for our national, economic,

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and energy security. So, you know, we

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don't have all of those geological

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reserves here at home. So, we're looking

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to go out and secure those resources

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from other places. And Greenland has

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some really good deposits.

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>> What is the sort of makeup of those

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deposits? Like what do they have uh that

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we don't have? How much do they have? Um

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what is the resource richness look like

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in Greenland?

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>> So, the biggest mineral I mean you know

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here in the US we have a very long list

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of critical minerals. We have 60 of

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them. Um, but the one that we are most

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vulnerable and that has kind of

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dominated political and market rhetoric

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over the last year are something that we

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call rare earths. And rare earths are a

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group of 17 minerals. The funny thing,

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they're not actually rare. They're found

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everywhere, but it's kind of hard to

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find them in commercially dense

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quantities. So we need rare earths and

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number one thing we think about is we

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need them for every form of defense

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technology because they go into the

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permanent magnets that are used in our

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missiles, lasers, tanks, fighter jets,

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submarines and last year in April China

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which actually has a pretty big

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dominance on these rare earths and

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particularly something we call heavy

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rare earths which just means that they

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have a higher atomic weight for those

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heavy rare earths. China actually had

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99% of processing capabilities. Now we

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need those heavy rare earths and while

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the US has rare earths, we don't have a

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lot of those heavy rare earths. What we

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have in Greenland are two of the biggest

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rare earth deposits in the world and

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they are particularly wellendowed with

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those heavy rare earths. So you know if

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we want to process those and then turn

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them into end technologies, we are going

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to have to go beyond our borders which

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is what makes Greenland particularly

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attractive but we can come back to this

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later. It's a very complicated mining

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jurisdiction.

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>> Yeah. Why is it so complicated? Let's

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let's get to it. Now,

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>> a couple of things. So, the first thing

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is from the time that I mine and I get

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these minerals out of the ground, I've

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got to get them to the port, right? And

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uh Greenwood has very little

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infrastructure. It has a couple hundred

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miles of roads, like less than 200 miles

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of roads. So, I need a lot of

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transportation infrastructure, whether

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it's road, rail, going to further

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develop the ports. The second thing we

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need is we need a lot more energy

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infrastructure. Globally, mining uses

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close to a fifth of the world's energy.

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And so, in a place like Greenland, where

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you have the lowest population density

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in the world, we're going to have to

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build a lot of energy infrastructure.

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The third thing, mining is not well

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loved in Greenland. So, there are a

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couple of high-profile projects that

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have actually gotten stopped because

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communities don't want the mining. And

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we know that that social license to

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operate is actually very precarious

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globally, but particularly in Greenland.

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And the final thing I would say is there

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is a changing policy in Greenland. And

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an example of that is rare earths are

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rarely found alone. They're usually

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mined with other things. And in the case

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of Greenland, they're actually mined

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with uranium. And uranium obviously

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being radioactive. So Greenland has kind

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of gone back and forth on a ban on

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mining uranium, which by extension

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impacts whether you can get those rare

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earths out of the ground. So those

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policy changes can make it quite

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complicated. When you think about the

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decision to go into Greenland, I mean,

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just looking at Venezuela where it's

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kind of a similar situation. You have

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incredible natural resources in the

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region. Also, you need to build and

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invest in a ton of infrastructure to

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actually get those resources out of the

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region and use them. But when you think

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about the way it's been approached, I

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mean, in Venezuela,

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we had sort of these debates, what it

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what was it actually about? Was it about

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Maduro or was it about the oil? Um,

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that's definitely a debate, but he seems

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to be making it clear and clear it's

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definitely a lot about the oil. When it

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comes to Greenland,

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can you just go in there and take it? I

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mean, is that actually a viable strategy

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as an expert on strategic and

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international studies? Like, is that

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going to work to just say it's ours now?

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>> It's much more complicated than oil in

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Venezuela is the short answer. And the

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reason is this. Venezuela, we've been

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taking oil out of the ground for a very

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long time. There are American mining

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companies that know and m and extract

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oil in Venezuela. In Greenland, you're

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talking about a very nent industry.

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You're talking about an industry that

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has really never been developed. We mine

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zero rare earth right now. And for some

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context, globally, the average from the

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time that I identify a mineral deposit

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to the time that I'm extracting it is 18

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years. Just for context here in the

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United States, it's actually 29 years.

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So mining is not an industry that I can

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go in tomorrow and have a shovel ready

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project 3 to 6 months from now. So,

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Venezuela has the benefit of the oil

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being uh a very well-developed industry

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compared to mining being a very nent in

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Greenland.

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>> I guess the part of my question though

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is is the the threats towards Greenland.

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It's basically saying we're going to use

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our military if you don't agree. Um and

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I'm just curious to get your take on

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what that means and also the efficacy of

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that. Like do you think that that is

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going to be an acceptable way to go in

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and get Greenland? Like do you think

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that that could actually play out that

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way?

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>> I don't think it is a good way to go to

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Greenland. I think the thing about

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>> I you know what we really want to see

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look Greenland number one wants to

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develop its mining sector. It's very

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open with that. I was on a panel in

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London with the adviser to the mining

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minister of Greenland um who spoke very

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openly about wanting to develop those

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resources but to do it in a way that is

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mutually beneficial both to investors

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but to the people of Greenland. Like

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Greenland needs more economic activity

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as well. Um you know and they but what

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they they really want to do is they want

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to do it in a way that's collaborative.

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And what we saw um in December 2025 was

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a very strategic project backed by the

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European Union for graphite, another

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commodity that China has a pretty big

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strangle hold on, actually move ahead

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and get a permit for exploration in

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Greenland. So it's really, you know,

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Greenland has this potential as a place

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that wants, you know, we they've

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obviously been a very key strategic ally

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to the US. We have military bases in

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Greenland. It's historically been a a

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fairly positive relationship. A country

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that wants to develop its mining sector

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that wants to work with Europe that has

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open been open about wanting to work

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with the US. Um you know I think we can

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do it in a way that's positive and

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collaborative without necessarily

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needing to play settlers of katan with

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Greenland.

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>> It's known that Greenland is this highly

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uh strategic

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its placement on the globe is highly

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strategic from a geopolitical

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perspective. um that's why we have the

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military bases there. Uh that's why it

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could be potentially a strategic asset.

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Balancing that against the natural

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resource side to it, which one do you

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think is more important to the

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administration? Do you think this is

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about the military base and having that

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geopolitical asset or do you think this

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is more about there's a ton of stuff in

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there that could be really valuable?

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>> Look, I mean, I think we have to think

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about this as a near medium and long

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term, right? In the near term, I don't

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think that there's an illusion that

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Greenland is not going to give us

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minerals in the next six months that are

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suddenly going to reduce our reliance on

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China because a lot of these projects

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have a long project development

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timeline. As I said to you earlier, I

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mean that could span from a decade to

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two to three decades. So, it's not a

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nearterm mineral solution. What it is

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though in a time when number one,

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geopolitical tension in the Indo-Pacific

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is increasing quite rapidly. We saw just

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this week that Japan actually or sorry,

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China cut Japan off of access to dual

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use materials because of some of the

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comments it made to Taiwan. Second, we

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have seen China making an increasing

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play on uh Greenland. I mean, in the

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last seven years, you've seen this grow.

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I mean, at one point, Denmark actually

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had to intervene so that China didn't

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come in and, you know, kind of take the

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build the airports of Greenland and have

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that level of ownership on national

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security grounds. So, you know, it is I

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think in the near term we have so much

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tension in the world and particularly in

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the Indoacific that that's the near-term

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goal. The longer term goal is we see an

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area with a lot of resource potential.

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>> Just before you go, how do you think

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this plays out in the next year or so?

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If you had to make a prediction,

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>> it's difficult to say at this point. My

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hope is that given the Europeans have

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made a very clear position that they are

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not going to they're not open to the US

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coming and taking Venezuela that we can

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find a way to uh take a more

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collaborative and more diplomatic

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approach to Greenland acknowledging that

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this is not an adversarial relationship

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that we've had with Greenland. It's

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actually been highly strategic and we

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can expand that strategic partnership

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going forward. All right, Gracelyn

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Bascaran, director of the critical

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mineral security program at the Center

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for Strategic and International Studies.

11:53

Grayson, appreciate your time. Thank

11:55

you.

11:55

>> Thanks for having me.

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We're back with property markets.

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California voters are considering a

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wealth tax on billionaires. Unlike

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traditional wealth taxes which apply to

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cash or liquid assets, this one-time 5%

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tax would apply to unrealized gains.

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Those could come from stocks, artwork,

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and intellectual property. The measure

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was filed late last year, but it gained

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new momentum after Representative Ro

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Connor publicly endorsed it, and that

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endorsement triggered a sharp backlash

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from Silicon Valley this week. If the

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proposal gets roughly 875,000

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signatures, it will be on the ballot in

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November. And if voters approve it, the

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tax will apply retroactively to people

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who are California residents as of

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January 1st, 2026. So, this is a big

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deal. And as I just mentioned, this has

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set the tech community on fire. We've

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seen backlash on social media from

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billionaires like David Saxs and Chamath

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Palahatia and Bill Aman among many

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others. To sum up their criticisms, the

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tax would basically just cause a mass

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exodus of all of the most successful and

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wealthiest entrepreneurs in the state.

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And they also claim that it wouldn't

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make that large of a dent in the massive

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state budget of California. Meanwhile,

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the proposal supporters say that this is

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necessary to fight inequality. No matter

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what side you're on, one thing is clear.

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This is an unprecedented proposal that

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could really change California forever.

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Now, directionally speaking, I actually

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like this initiative because it tells me

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we're beginning to get on the same page

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about what the real problems in America

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actually are. It isn't transgenderism or

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wokeness or the media. The real problem,

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the big problem is inequality. And I

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know we've beaten this horse to death,

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but that's because it's a pretty

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gigantic horse. A quick reminder of the

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numbers. $1 trillion. That's how much

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the top 19 households in America made in

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2024. They now control roughly 2% of all

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household wealth in America. $52

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trillion. That's how much the top 1%

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controls now. That's roughly a third of

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all household wealth. Inequality is

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getting worse and worse. The rich are

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getting richer and richer. The poor are

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getting poorer. And we know where this

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is headed because we've seen this story

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before throughout history. We saw it in

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Russia and France and Germany. This is a

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perfectly paved road towards revolt,

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violence, and civil war. So when someone

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comes up with a plan to dramatically

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redistribute the wealth, I'm for it. A

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wealth tax on billionaires, why not?

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Jensen Huang said it's okay. The

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trouble, however, is that almost every

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other billionaire says it's not okay.

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Larry Page, Peter Teal, Paul Malaki, all

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the big power brokers in Silicon Valley,

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they have all sounded off about what an

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unacceptable proposal this is. And they

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appear prepared to do whatever it takes

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to fend it off. And as much as I'd like

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to just blow past their preferences, we

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also have to recognize reality. And the

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reality is these guys have a lot of

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power, including the power to just shut

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this whole thing down. Whether that's

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through lobbying or just fighting it out

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in the courts or simply leaving the

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state, maybe the country, I can tell you

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with near certainty, this plan isn't

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going to go through as planned. Now, to

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be clear, that doesn't mean we shouldn't

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try. But at the same time, we should

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consider all our options and choose the

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one that has the highest probability of

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working. and this probably isn't that.

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So before we end, I would propose an

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alternative that probably would work and

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that would be a borrowing tax. As you

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may know, the reason billionaires pay

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proportionally less in taxes is because

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they rarely have taxable events.

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Instead, they just hold their assets

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which rise in value and they never sell.

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And that is a great strategy until you

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want to buy something at which point you

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need cash to pay for it. And this is

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where the dirty secret comes in. Instead

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of selling their assets, what

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billionaires like to do is they borrow

16:39

against them usually at an extremely low

16:42

rate. And this is not a taxable event,

16:45

which basically means you can just

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borrow and borrow and borrow, add in an

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item, and you never have to pay taxes.

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So here's a solution that we would

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propose. make borrowing a taxable event.

16:56

Let them keep their assets, but if they

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ever want to use those assets to fund

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their lifestyle, they have to pay a tax

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just like the rest of us. And the

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beautiful thing about this idea is one,

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it would work. It's estimated it could

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generate as much as $20 billion per

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year. And two, billionaires are not that

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against it. In fact, Bill Aman has said

17:16

the idea is okay. So has Mark Cuban. So

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has Abigail Disney, the ays to the

17:21

Disney fortune. Not every billionaire is

17:24

going to be on board, but it does seem

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that more importantly, many of them will

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be because unlike a flat wealth tax,

17:30

which simply seizes your assets

17:32

regardless of your liquidity, this works

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a lot more like an income tax. It taxes

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you when you decide to get liquid, and

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that is simply a lot more realistic.

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Now, I'm open to other ideas and I'm

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also open to hearing why the wealth tax

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is better. But considering how dire the

17:50

situation has gotten, we simply have to

17:52

be serious about which ideas are

17:55

actually viable, which are going to go

17:56

through and which ideas are not. A

17:59

wealth tax might theoretically be a good

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idea, but realistically it isn't because

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it isn't going to happen. And at this

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point, our view on this is quite simple.

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We need ideas that will happen.

18:14

Thanks for listening to Profy Markets

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The video discusses two main topics: the US interest in acquiring Greenland for its critical mineral resources, particularly rare earths needed for defense technology, and a proposed wealth tax in California targeting billionaires. The US's interest in Greenland is driven by China's dominance in rare earth processing and the need to secure these resources for national security. However, developing Greenland's mining sector faces challenges due to a lack of infrastructure, energy, and local opposition, as well as policy uncertainties regarding uranium mining. The California wealth tax proposal, a one-time 5% tax on unrealized gains, has sparked debate, with supporters citing inequality and opponents warning of capital flight. The video also proposes an alternative: a borrowing tax on billionaires, arguing it's more feasible and akin to an income tax, potentially generating significant revenue without forcing asset sales.

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