Last time I had Beck in here, right

before he sat down, I told Allessie, who

was sitting on the board, I was like,

I'm just going to sit down. I'm going to

say hello, and I guarantee you I'm not

going to have to say anything for at

least 6 minutes. And it turned into one

of the best opening monologues. I have

no idea what the [ __ ] you said, but it

was incredible. and it was like a full

six minutes and 15 seconds and I just

want to thank you for that because I've

never had the opportunity to do that on

camera.

>> It's nice to meet you for the first

time. Hear your voice. Third time's a

charm. Julian, first of all, I want to

congratulate you

>> for crossing over the 1 million

threshold. Multiple channels heading

that way.

>> I remember the first time we met up and

you weren't even at 100 yet, bro. So,

I've seen how hard you've worked and how

far your reach has gone and how

important, honestly, brother, what

you're doing is to give people a

platform, discuss important issues, and

especially things that I think all of us

by now can admit are not really

conspiracies anymore. But let's turn it

over to my brother over here, Sunny.

>> Yeah. And and thank you for that, Becca.

I appreciate it. It's always it's good

to think see things charted along the

way as well. So, to see like each time

you've been here, it's like been a

different step. It's it's very cool to

see. And you are right. We got some [ __ ]

to talk about today. But Mr. Sunny Faz,

first time on the show. Welcome.

>> Thanks for having me on, bro.

>> Of course, dog. You're out there doing a

lot of things these days.

>> Yeah. Running a few different

businesses. We've been running up

clipping together. That's been going

pretty good.

>> It's getting there. Yeah. I was actually

going to meet up with you on Saturday if

you're around.

>> Yeah. Yeah. We'll link up and chat about

that. But

>> that's been good, bro. Just grinding,

man. Streaming content, upgrading my

character. That's all we're doing. Is my

hair looking crazy? You keep looking up.

>> Your hair looks on fire, bro. I'm trying

to go like extra extra Italian in this

one.

>> Yeah. Yeah. The you're a lot of things

going on as well. You're young, you're

Italian, and you're Muslim. I mean,

that's quite the [ __ ] combo. So, you

know, rock it. How you going to rock it?

But you guys obviously are here on

planet Earth with me. So, we've been

seeing the whole Epstein story. Just

[ __ ]

>> I don't know, hit the skids. Whatever

the [ __ ] you want to say. I see your hat

back. Epstein wasn't Muslim.

>> Just a reminder, just in case they try

to pin this on the Muslims. Just to

remind everybody, yeah, there's a couple

Arabs on the list, couple diplomats,

couple billionaires of Arab descent. And

again, I'm not Arab, just for the

record. I'm Albanian American, born and

raised here.

>> That's right.

>> But it seems to me that the strategy of

a lot of these rogue groups, shadow

groups, the media that controls a lot of

what we think

uh it's blame the blame the Muslim

boogeyman. I just want to make sure for

the record they understand that the ring

leader of that operation,

Epstein, was not a Muslim.

Just for the record, just to remind

people as they walk by.

>> Yeah, I don't think they can pin this

one on Muslims. There's a there's a lot

of things, but I I don't think that's

happening here.

>> But what's alarming, Julian, is that all

you see all over X is people taking

shots at the Prophet Muhammad, 1400

years ago, even if what they're saying

should he's dead. He's been dead. Peace

and blessings be upon him.

>> Why are you not worried about what's

happening right now? Epstein's victims

are still alive. The people that helped

him are still alive. The people that are

in power are still alive, Julian. Yet

they try to distract with these

narratives.

>> Who do you think Epstein was? That's for

both of you. If you want to start, Son,

go ahead.

>> I mean, we're going all out, huh?

>> Yeah. Isn't it pretty clear that he was

an operative for MSAD?

>> I think so.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I would say it's safe to say, but I

don't think that we let our three-letter

agencies off the hook either because

they seem to have clearly known about

it. So it seems like and and at that

point I would have to say even the

British are involved.

>> I would agree.

>> It's Russia.

>> Well, it's not Russia gate, but there's

a lot of different places that certainly

seem to have touched that guy. I think

we know where it emanates from and all

that. It's just very interesting that

you would be at a moment if you're like

say CIA and you figure out that this guy

is doing these kinds of things which

wasn't just the the pedophilia and all

that. Obviously, it's money laundering,

arms dealing, deals around the world

with all these different governments.

And you find out he's doing that and

operating from your soil

and then you let him keep going and you

become a part of it.

>> You do nothing about it,

>> right? Isn't that strange?

>> It's a crime in a lot of states. It's

just state law to know that minors are

being harmed.

>> Yeah.

>> And to not report the crimes.

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>> You have one of the wives of one of the

most powerful senators to ever live in

America who almost became president.

John McCain almost became president,

right? You have his wife on record three

or four years ago saying, "We all knew

about Epstein, but for whatever reason,

nobody would go after him." Please cue

this into the edit. For whatever reason,

nobody would go after him. They were

afraid. What could have made a US

senator who almost became president

scared to come forward with the crimes

being committed on our soil

against children? And the fact that

people are more concerned about Bad

Bunny and his [ __ ] performance on the

Super Bowl that I even watch

is terrifying to me. Julian, brother,

people should be in the street. And

nothing against movements are one way or

the other. We the country almost got

burned down because one man was killed

by a police officer. Are the children's

lives not important? Do children's lives

matter? # children's lives matter?

Thousands of kids may have been

murdered. Eat even eaten alive. Okay,

>> eaten alive.

>> That's what they're saying in some of

these emails. They're like in

insinuating that some of this was code

like jerky was one of the key words. And

this is breaking right now. I mean, it's

trending. They're saying that they think

that when they're making some of these

references, they're literally talking

about eating children. You made a

phenomenal edit of Lutnik. We called

them out on our show a couple months

ago. The first video

>> that was one of my favorite edits I ever

did. It was awesome and it was good to

just, you know, I like I like when

you're like the one ranting, man.

>> Yeah. I mean, look, it's I I don't I

don't do that a ton and I did not expect

to do that. I mean, De and I were just

[ __ ] around doing our weekly Patreon

episode. He's dressed like demolition,

man. We didn't even check the cameras

and everything and then we just record

this and the patrons were like, "You

have to put this out." We put it out.

The rest was history. But like it was

like a one when I looked at it back, I'm

like, "It makes sense." cuz it was just

this one, two, three punch. We had to

watch the video of him lying through his

[ __ ] teeth

>> to that New York Post lady.

>> Then we watched the video of him

laughing. The one we were just talking

about before multiple times next to the

president next to the president. This

one, the one in the oval. And then De,

who had been like off the internet for

two weeks and was just learning about

all this from me on like live right

there. I read him the email where he's

talking about meeting him on the island

listing off the kids' ages and he just

went like, "Oh." And I just lost it cuz

I'm like, you know, it's one thing if

all right, you were neighbors with the

guy and then you should have looked into

more stuff or what he was really accused

of and you didn't to lie about it as

brazenly as he did as you stand behind.

Exactly. It's like

>> as you stand behind the president of the

United States of America

>> and you laugh Yep. in the faces of every

American and person around the world

that we all know what the [ __ ] is going

on. Now, there's a weird disease called

Faru. Karu, what is it called?

>> Pull it up.

>> One of the comments I read, very

interesting. Again, remember some of

these theories go as far as that they've

even ate children and took the, you

know, adrenaline blood from them. And,

you know, I won't use certain words for

a reason. I'm still programmed from 2019

lockdowns.

>> You remember how we were operating back

then?

>> I remember how we were operating.

paranoid talking in [ __ ] you know so

the fact that we're still not free as

Sunny always says

>> and one of his short films free America

bro free America clearly we're not free

clearly there is a parasite as he states

>> a parasite

>> in our system yeah

>> you want to explain that what you mean

by that

>> well I didn't call out any specific

group of people I just described what

the people in charge are doing to ruin

the country like instead of you know old

cartoons being at least somewhat

wholesome like when they did demonic

imagery and old stuff. It was hidden.

You had to play a song in reverse. You

had to zoom in on like the foot of a a

cartoon character and see a Pichadell.

You know what I'm talking

>> Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club

Beatles picture of Alice Crowley in the

background

>> and now it's just obvious and it's

inside of our face. Um, so I made a

short film where I called out all the

different demonic things that they're

doing and I just called them parasites

and then a certain group of people went

completely up in arms and started

calling me and giving me death threats

and everything. But

>> yeah, they're going to die anyway.

There's no point of even like harping on

it anymore. Everyone knows.

>> Everybody knows.

>> It's And to me, it's like

>> how it works in those elite communities.

I don't know. I know there's a sickness

going on up there, but you also have to

remember that we we can't agree on, you

know, what the [ __ ] who the star of

the game was last night. You think a

bunch of narcissistic billionaires agree

on how to run the world? All the imagine

all the [ __ ] that we see from like the

uni party which is fair for us to call

it that that is obviously trickling down

to society and creating these awful

casualties of war if you will I'm just

using that as a phrase that happens to

all of us normal folk and then think

about all the infighting they must be

having up there and just name every

[ __ ] you know group that we talk

about whether it be Illuminati

Bilderberg group trilateral commission

all these different people and all the

[ __ ] after effects that must have on

all us that they can't even agree on one

[ __ ] [ __ ] thing to do. And the whole

point of what they do is just to try to

run people who they view as useful

idiots on their machine of peasante on

the string.

You ever ordered pizza on email?

>> I have not ordered pizza

>> or hot dogs.

>> I've ordered Door Dash.

That's not email though.

>> How many emails were in the files

talking about pizza?

>> A lot of them.

>> Yeah. Can we actually pull that up on

>> about how about how many emails about

jerky and beef jerky and

>> see here here here's the other thing.

There's a lot of stuff that in the past

>> could have been totally shut down that

you Oh, they did it again.

>> Wow. I think you need a VPN.

>> VPN.

>> They did it again. I don't have a VPN on

there. I have one on my phone.

>> It's all right, John.

>> Damn it. Well, let let's see if we can

find it like through Twitter and then

verify the shots because obviously

there's fake stuff flying around. But

like there's stuff that you used to be

able to shut down because it

legitimately was from just like a 4chan

chat without real evidence presented

that now even if it's not proven true

yet, you have to at least be like, "Hey,

maybe you know there's something there's

a there there or there could be a there

there."

>> And it's a really important moment for

like all of Main Street to be able to

sift through the real and the [ __ ]

Like we got to be very careful so we

don't fall in the trap of like just

assuming [ __ ] everything is

everything and it's all the [ __ ]

conspiracy. But I will admit cynically

right now

>> it feels a lot more towards the

conspiracy side than the alternative.

>> And we would say more towards the

spiritual side.

>> Spiritual side.

>> I've said it on your show multiple

times. Danny Jones multiple times. We

said it together on the Hodge Twins

podcast

and on Jimmy Dory. I was just on his

show last week. The comedian. I want to

thank him also.

um

where we come from and it's also

mentioned many times in our in our

faith, the faith of Islam, God never

destroys a nation until he sends a

messenger. He didn't just destroy

ancient Egypt. He sent Moses first. He

didn't destroy Babylon. He sent Lot. So

I believe the American people, the

Western world, ex especially through

these emails of Epstein are being given

a final warning by God.

We can now see the evil. We know it's

real. It's not just a conspiracy

anymore. We know that agencies have been

covering up for this. We know that our

institutions have been compromised. We

know that our leaders are hypocrites

that sit at the microphone and the only

thing they can agree on is more war. And

I believe, as I said this on your show,

and it's not getting any better, Julian,

since the last episode, it's getting a

lot scarier, brother. I believe this is

America's last stand. God has allowed us

to see the evil and either we stand

together and we push back against this

or we're all going to perish like the

empire is before us. The country was up

in arms because a single man lost his

life in uh with a cop, right? The whole

BLM thing. The whole country burned to

the ground. Yet none of us are in the

streets marching for children, bro.

Children, not a couple. Thousands of

them. But we'll have debates over Bad

Bunny. Brother,

>> we're in trouble, man. That's my little

spiel.

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>> Saw your boy Tommy G calling for people

not to pay taxes. Oh, how could we?

That's so gangster, bro.

>> Why the [ __ ] ARE WE PAYING TAXES, BRO?

>> IT'S FACTS, THOUGH. I grew up in Boston.

They had a They had a whole revolution

over attacks on tea.

>> They did.

>> No taxation without representation.

>> That's right.

>> People love to complain about jizzy

attacks. Have you ever heard of that?

>> Jizzy attacks? Is that like a pause or

>> It's like the tax that Muslims charge

when they're uh when they're leaders.

But with that, you actually get stuff in

return. The problem with the American

tax system right now is we're not

getting anything for it. The roads here

are garbage. Garbage. How many roads

right downstairs can you not even drive

a car that's somewhat low?

>> Potholes all over the place,

>> bro.

>> And Hoboken's a lot better in a lot of

places,

>> bro. $30 to get into Manhattan. How

about just to get in? $26 or whatever

just to get in.

>> They're just liars. The initial plans

for them even charging tolls for bridges

and tunnels was to pay it off. And then

the second they paid it off, actually,

no, no, we're going to up the price even

more. Rather than stopping it, like the

initial agreement, they just don't stop

lying.

>> Regressive taxes, those are even more

painful than state income taxes. They

punish the poor more than anybody.

>> I mean, 100 years ago, income tax wasn't

even a thing. To think in that short of

a time frame, we've gone from 0% income

tax to nearly 40% if you're making

somewhat of a substantial income. Like,

I I I don't see how this country doesn't

fall in our lifetime, bro. I a lot of

people like to think that every single

empire lasts forever. The Romans thought

the same thing. The Ottomans thought the

same thing, but it doesn't, bro. It all

crumbles. And Donald Trump's not going

to be standing in front of you on

judgment day.

>> He's not. Flag's not going to protect

you on judgment day. That's why, you

know, we believe like your morals come

first over everything else.

>> Beck, what do you think of Trump with

all this latest news? I don't know if

he's playing Listen, I think one thing

to be fair. I don't think any of this

would be coming to light if he wasn't

running for office when he did. But what

you know, is he playing some game where

somehow he I I don't know. I'm playing

devil's advocate. You still have people

that believe in the Anan stuff, right?

They still believe in that. And one of

the last things on that was save Israel

for last. That was one of the last

transmissions that was said in those

4chan things or I don't even never even

followed it on 4chan, but people I've

seen following that stuff. I've spoken

to David Nino Rodriguez, former

heavyweight boxing champ's got his own

part two and they were all hardcore on

that stuff. For me, is it a slow wake

up? Because, brother, literally the

entire nation has become a nation of

zombies in my opinion. We have 202

Tik Tok brains, right? So, is it is it a

pre-planned uh uh way for the president

to slowly wake everyone up, make like

basically gaslight us, but on purpose?

That's what I'm praying for. Otherwise,

we're screwed.

>> Keep praying. I don't think that's

>> I don't think so either. Not with that

guy standing next to him.

>> Yeah. I mean, it's

>> that's the last Hail Mary, basically, as

the Christians would say.

>> You talk about this. I I don't want to

lose the original point you were making

about like a civilizational moment. And

you know, like this is it. And Sunny,

you're also absolutely right. Every

empire is fallen, right? And they all

have in common that they think it can't

happen to them. I study this just like

you do. And it's it's a point that for

some reason humans forget over and over

again and they say it just won't happen

to me. And that's that's not the case.

But there's a little difference here in

that there's a real disconnect. I don't

even want to say algorithmically just

like in general of people. Meaning the

three of us in here, well the the five

of us in here, we all know what's going

on. We're actually looking at these

emails. we are following along on

Twitter, if you will, like going after

this on social media. Then there's a

second trunch of people who are looking

at it from the outside and liking some

videos on social media and going, "Yeah,

[ __ ] up." Then going about their day,

not even blaming them. That's just how

it's doing. Then there's a whole third

group of people who's like they don't

even know what's going on, right?

Whereas the one thing about the George

Floyd thing in May and June 2020 is

everyone was locked in their house and

all of the mainstream and social media

were covering it at all times that

everyone knew what was going on.

>> It was a fully executed scop if you

will.

>> And now with this like this I agree this

is the thing we should all be looking at

because it can tie we've only scratched

the surface on this but like do you

think enough people are actually taking

it seriously?

>> There's also one other group you forgot

to mention. What's one other?

>> There's a group that also knows what's

going on and is trying to steer and

deflect and distract the masses.

>> That's right.

>> From what's going on. And they use Islam

and they use Muslims. Is if you go on X

right now, all you're going to see is

state lawmakers in Texas. Everyone that

would be traditionally supportive of a

certain state in the Middle East, okay,

using Muslim and this fake Sharia

invasion, which me and Sunny clearly, I

believe, demonstrated that is it's all

made up, bro. 100%. We're going to talk

about that.

>> We are going to talk about it.

>> So, there is that group that's trying to

distract and deflect. So, it's like if

I'm peeking behind the Wizard of Oz's

curtain and I don't want to be

discovered that I'm actually Oz, I'm

going to say, "Look at this one. Look at

that one. Look at this one. Look at that

one." And that's exactly what's going

on. And a lot of people take the bait.

That's why we felt necessary to make the

film The Muslim Invasion of America and

go out there and see like, is it really

like that? Like, am I stepping into

Baghdad when I go to Minnesota? I mean,

to uh

>> Michigan,

>> Michigan or Texas? And that's not what

we found, bro.

>> Well, the the whole Muslim Christian

divide, that's only one of them, too.

Like that's not even the main way people

cuz Muslims are only

>> the other ones

>> uh black and white, left and right. Like

if you hear it's like a pizza. So with

any of their agendas, you can always

basically see where they're slicing that

pizza. So if they're pushing something

about Muslims taking over America,

Muslims and Christians. If they're

pushing something about conservatives

and Republicans, left and right. About,

you know, black violence, black and

white. And they keep doing that until

you have a pizza where it's like one of

those kindergarten parties. You have the

slices that are this big and no one's

unified anymore. That's the real

problem. But um

>> gay and straight even though that to me

that's not even like it's seem not even

worth wasting.

>> But it's crazy like they even made that

a left and right thing. Masks became a

left and right thing. And um it's funny

like a lot of these issues that we talk

about they're not even proportionate to

how big of an issue they are. Like for

how much everyone talked about the trans

stuff in 2023.

How often do you really see walking

around? I mean, we're in New York. New

York City. You see them there. This is

like a honeypot for them, but

>> this is like their Yeah,

>> but but let's be real.

>> This is their mecca, and it's still not

that that many. Like, every single time

you

>> These are ideological Listen, these are

ideological things, Julian,

>> that really not going to impact the

overall safety.

>> Yes.

>> And harmony of the world, but the media

will sensationalize it. Right. For me,

if you want to chop your dick off, chop

it off. I for me, I had no problem with

it. Chop it right off. It's less

competition. Could you imagine if these

people were straight? I can't dress like

George Michael and [ __ ] dance. Like,

if he was straight, there would have

been no women left. And they can't

reproduce once they chop off their

dicks. Like, it's a problem that solves

itself. We shouldn't even be wasting our

energy. Chop them off, man. Just don't

push the [ __ ] on kids. That's all. You

want to chop your dicks off, chop them

off left and right like a ninja,

>> you know? You could be like, you could

be like [ __ ] Donatello on the Ninja

Turtles and just go ahead. But let's

let's not push it on children. These are

lifestyles, right? In America, we have a

choice. We will have a right to have a

lifestyle. Christianity is a way of

life. Islam is a way of life. Being gay

way of life. We all have our rights.

Doesn't mean I have to agree, but as

Americans, we have those rights. I don't

support it spiritually at all, but you

have that right. So, I think private

matters can be left for the bedroom,

brother. Private. I don't need to know

what you're going to do with your dick

or your [ __ ] I don't need to know.

Neither do my kids. Chop it off. Sew one

on. It's like, but that's what they want

us to focus on while they do what?

Destroy all of us. Yeah. Enslave all of

us.

>> Yeah.

>> Together.

>> Yeah. There's a story I've told on my

podcast a bunch, but we're also tapping

into your audience now too, Sunny, so

they haven't heard me say this, so

apologies to people who have heard this

before, but

>> hit us with it. My friend Danny Jones

talked to this guy Stephen Kzer

>> back during like the height of the

lockdowns, maybe like end of 2020,

beginning of 2021. Stephen Kzer was a

longtime New York Times reporter who

ended up reporting I want to say on like

a lot of cult stuff eventually, but you

know, he was the bureau chief in all

these different places. So he's the

bureau chief down in South America in

1981, call it, and Carter's a year out

of office. And so he finds out Carter's

coming through where he was in South

America and he knew Carter. So he's

like, "All right, I hit him up, see

what's up." Hits up Carter. Carter's

like, "Yeah, let's go get a drink." So

he's getting a drink with Carter and

they're sitting there talking, catching

up. And then he's like, "You know what?

It's been long enough. Let me try to ask

some questions, see if he'll answer

them." And he asked Carter, you know,

what's it like to become president? To

walk in there into the Oval Office and

you are in charge of everything day one.

And Carter was just like, "Dude, it's

[ __ ] nuts." And you you can't even

you can't even explain it in words. He's

like, "So, what'd you do?" And he goes,

"I called in every living president.

Every single one who was still around

and met with them all one-on-one to get

advice on how to do the job, including

Nixon." And so Kinszer's sitting there

and he's like, "All right, [ __ ] it. I'm

going to ask who gave the best advice."

And Carter smiles real big and he goes,

"Nixon."

>> There you go. And Kzer goes, "Why?" And

he goes, "Nixon walked in there. He

goes, "All right, listen. Congress,

they're going to fight over all this

[ __ ] Healthcare, taxes, whatever.

You're going to move things 5% one

direction, 5% the other direction.

Domestic politics, it doesn't [ __ ]

matter. It never changes. Foreign policy

though, that's where you got the power.

That's where you change everything." And

the reason that story hits for me is

because it's exactly what you're saying,

Sunny. They take the pizza and they

slice it up in all these different ways.

They say the crowd, "Oh, look at the

look at the shiny object. Look at the

shiny object. Everyone go get up." Yeah.

Yeah. Come over here. And then suddenly

they're like, "All right, they're over

there. All right, good. Yeah, pull it."

>> And over here they're doing something

crazy in Somalia or something like that

and nobody's going to talk about it. And

those are the people when we talk about

like who runs the world, the

bureaucracies, the governments, the

elites, and the combination of

everything within. To me, that's the

tale as old as time. It's that's been

around for well over a century if if you

ask me.

>> Chop your dick off.

>> Yeah. Run over here.

>> Crazy times, Julian Dory. Um I think

unanimously we can all agree, especially

with the Epstein saga going on. Lobbying

needs to be made. Like we need to get

something done now. All this crazy

shit's been going on. Children have been

getting hurt. Politicians pulled into

the mix. Former presidents pulled into

the mix. Clearly corruption has seeped

in like gang green and has only spread

throughout the years and it's not just

Israel or all these other right we have

to worry about China also for years sent

spies penetrated the highest levels of

corporations stole military secrets my

friend we have been eroded from the

inside out

>> the fact when you can go back and listen

to Bill Clinton's speech on the world

trade organization it's going to be a

good thing well go ask Detroit Michigan

right go ask Michigan we went to

Michigan together we saw the streets of

Detroit $41 trillion in counting in

national debt. Yet Detroit looks like

someone dropped a bomb on it. It looks

like [ __ ] Baghdad in the middle of

Operation Iraqi Freedom. I could not

believe and we coincidentally while we

were filming stumbled across the first

plant literally by accident cuz I

couldn't believe that that used to be

their plan. How dilapitated the entire

area was. And to think that at one point

we were the leading people in the world

for making vehicles when they allowed

these c these countries that don't even

pay like livable wages. But we allowed

this to happen.

>> What do you what do you think started

that?

>> Uh

>> like what do you think what was the

first step in like one day Detroit is

booming. There's production lines.

Everyone's working

>> trade organization NAFTA.

>> It was Henry Ford. He he brought in a

bunch of Arabs.

>> He's talking about what led to it

becoming [ __ ]

>> Yeah. What are you saying?

>> Not what made it good. Interesting.

Yeah.

>> Well, this is what we learned in the

documentary interviewing everyone there

is basically all the Arabs families,

they came for the motor industry. Henry

Ford, he he brought a bunch of people

from the Arab nations to come and work

for a cheaper rate at the time. And then

once they outsourced all that work to

foreign nations, that's when Detroit

stopped uh started collapsing. But

Detroit was actually one of the most

economically booming cities in America

for a while. And now, bro, it's a dump.

>> I wonder if I wonder if why he brought

the Arabs. Have Have you ever been to

Detroit in winter?

>> Dude,

>> no.

>> It's even colder than here.

>> It was brutal.

>> Yeah.

>> I I to me it's crazy how Arabs can go

from a warm climate and then want to go

work there. That's like [ __ ] It was

like hell on earth, bro.

>> He he says he says, you know, he says a

funny line in in the in the film that we

made like you guys are worried about

like the Muslims and the Arabs, like let

them keep it. Like they can have this

[ __ ]

>> Yeah. I got I got Did you watch the

documentary?

>> I watched the first 10 minutes of it.

>> The last 15 is the best. So you got to

you got to make sure

>> it's only 40 minutes. Your work's great,

by the way. I've loved some of your

documentaries in the past. Like a very

throwback Americana type feel.

>> I appreciate that. That's from watching

all like the Tarantino Scorsesei.

>> Being around my family, you know,

>> being around your family, too.

>> Yeah. Just like as an artist, you learn

to just kind of absorb everything. Even

being around Beck, he's got some of the

most original humor in the world, bro.

>> He does have that

>> like stuff. He doesn't take stuff from

movies and from TV shows

>> off the dome. Like, bro, we're in we're

in LA a couple weeks ago. There's two

cars in front of us. We're the third car

behind, right? Light goes green and

they're not going. So Beck, he can't

wait for anyone. Not two seconds. He

flies around. The guy, stops next to

him, goes, "What are you waiting for?

The light to turn blue

>> and just whips around. I'm like,

>> how do you think of this stuff? How do

you And he doesn't even know." So I've

been writing these down so that in the

future if I'm working on a movie or

something,

>> that's where you get all your humor

from. At the end of the day, it's just

most people when they're operating,

they're moving with their subconscious

turned off.

>> They're not operating in any sense of

consciousness.

>> Autopilot, bro.

>> What do you mean by that?

>> I mean, any little interaction that you

have, if you're conscious, you can be a

stand-up comedian. You can be a movie

director. You can write TV shows. Like,

let's say you go to a coffee shop and

you have a funny little interaction.

Write that down in your notes. Now, in

the future, when you're writing

something, you can go through and you

have something that made somebody laugh.

If you tell a joke at a campfire and

everyone's dying laughing, write it

down.

>> Absolutely.

>> Keep track of stuff.

>> I agree with you, kid. I came up with

something two days ago. I can't remember

now. And I wish I And it was something

for content. It was something I wanted

to say. It is important. I wish I kept a

journal of my life, but [ __ ]

Maybe it's better I didn't. Maybe it's

better.

>> You lived a very interesting life, Beck.

Especially considering like the

background. I know we've talked about on

the podcast before back in the day, but

you know, for people that didn't hear

episode 95, you lost what, 28 family

members,

>> man. We spoke about that on episode one

with you that we did. Not your episode

one, but our first session, our first

time dancing and [ __ ]

>> Um, but that's why I get like really

angry, Julian. It's like, you know, my

family was killed by Orthodox

Christians. I never blamed Christianity,

bro.

>> Yes.

>> Never once have I ever If you could find

one video where I blamed Christianity

for what happened to my family, I'll get

baptized tomorrow.

>> But you won't because I would never

blame the religion for the actions of a

few,

>> right? Right. And me and Sunny are on

the front lines telling people, man, you

know what does Donald Trump always say?

It's fake news. It's fake news. I agree,

Mr. President. It is fake news. But if

it's fake news once, twice, 100 times

for him, why is it when the Muslim

American tells you the same fake news,

especially on the right, especially on

the far right, you you guys all agree

it's a corrupt media. We all agree it's

a corrupt media that will only put

what's to their, you know, benefit of

whatever policy or agenda they're trying

to push. If you believed it for Donald

Trump, if you believed it for anyone

else that said it's fake media, then why

when the Muslim tells you it's fake what

they're telling you about our religion,

the way they quote our book completely

out of context.

>> What What are the best examples of them

doing that?

>> They'll literally put the one verse and

strike the believers wherever you can

find. Bro, it's not even God talking to

the Muslims. He's talking to the angels

to back the Muslims up in battle because

they're outnumbered three to one. 99% of

those verses are defensive in nature.

They'll show you and you know he knows

too.

>> Not even a full verse. Not even a full

sentence. Half of a sentence. Strike the

believers wherever you find them. Yeah.

But I want to see what the [ __ ] did it

say above. What did it say above?

>> What does it say below? And when you put

it into context, you'll quickly notice

and I hope by now, Julian, you've read

the book. Have you read it, Julian? Be

honest.

>> I've never read the book. I will be

honest. I've never read.

>> This is the issue, and I say this

respectfully. One out of five people in

the world is a Muslim. I've studied

Chinese history. I still haven't been to

China. I studied it in school. It

fascinated me because I say, you know

what, one out of five people is Chinese

and they have a big impact on the world

and on our economy, right? And it's good

to know a little bit about the Chinese.

>> If you're there finding yourself hating

Muslims and hating Islam and you've

never even I'm not saying you do, I'm

just speaking in general.

>> No, I know.

>> If you've never read the book, but you

believe the little excerpts you're

seeing being posted by non-Muslims, you

are the epitome of a fool, an ignorant

person, and a hypocrite. So, I beg your

audience, go read the book and when you

see something that doesn't make sense,

ask one of the scholars, ask an imam.

You can walk into any mosque. We'll make

sure we have baby formula waiting for

you. I don't know if you remember that

went viral.

>> I I I don't know the reference to that.

>> Okay. Well, it was I don't want to go

off tangent, but I'll get to that in one

second. We'll make sure we have baby

formula for your babies, and we'll make

sure that we'll answer any questions you

have, but predominantly those verses are

defensive in nature. So that's kind of

why we felt the need to make the Muslim

invasion of America. First of all, we

used what the fear is, the Muslim

invasion of America, right? That's

what's going to happen. Texas with less

than 1% of the population. You know

what's funny about the fake news point

he was mentioning before is if you look

back at old news narratives such as 9/11

and who they blamed it on, that

instilled a lot of hatred in people's

hearts for Muslims. And now 20 years

later when people are waking up, oh

wait, that wasn't actually the Muslims,

you know, that was threeletter agencies

working with foreign nations, but let's

still hate the Muslims.

>> No. What about Maxwell on the 9/11

commission before it even h like what do

you call it? I'm sorry. Pull it up.

There was

>> a real email. Yeah.

>> What? Cuz my I so many emails of

corruption.

>> You want to be on the fake 911

commission.

>> But if you fake 911 commission just

dropped this week because this is

important. It ties in. Finish your

point.

>> One second. God help us, bro.

>> Thank God you're here. Go ahead, Sunny.

>> I don't It's Bro, my patience has been

like this

>> like this. My patience has been back

referee here. It's great.

>> Let's go.

>> Go ahead.

>> Yeah, it's good for someone else to see

it. What was I saying? Oh,

>> fire ass shirt you're wearing, by the

way. Go ahead.

>> I'm saying but if you wake up 911 if you

if you wake up to Muslims didn't do

9/11,

then why do you still hate them? Why do

you hold that hatred in your heart from

that propaganda? That's where it was

instilled. let go of that along with the

narrative that they did it.

>> Yeah. It doesn't make any sense.

>> They hold the hatred, but they let go of

the narrative. It doesn't make any

sense, bro.

>> Yeah. There there's a lot of things I

could say right now, but I don't want to

get too down into the weeds and like

lose the point you're making and all

that because there was a lot 911's like

one of the biggest conspiracy of all

time and there were a lot of groups

involved. But at the heart of what

you're both saying, I think is actually

probably almost an unpopular thing to

say right now that needs to be said,

which is, you know, we have always

fallen short as a human species

throughout history of not categorizing

all people as a group in some way or

whatever. You guys are talking about it

righteously so with some of the

propaganda that was certainly put out

about Muslims in the post 911 era, and

we're going to talk more about that in a

minute. But just in general, one thing

that even when I get so pissed about

things that are going on that I have to

find myself just making sure I step back

out of is judging the individuals I see.

Right? So when individuals are working

from any group together, let's say

there's 10 guys from one racial group

who are working together and doing

something bad, I'm going to call them

out and I'm going to separate that from

the group itself, right? And sometimes I

fall short of that for sure. But what

you guys have seen from your own

experience as Muslims, you throughout

your life and Sunny, you for eventually

we'll get to your conversion story and

all that, but like you know, you've seen

to where that's a continuous thing where

an entire group of billions of people

>> is put together all in one basket. And

that's not fair.

>> Almost two billion, Julian.

>> Yeah. It's not It's not I agree. It's

totally unfair because

>> it's crazy, bro. Like it's honestly like

to just sit here and see the [ __ ] that's

going on and the propaganda and the

narratives that they spin. Meanwhile,

these same people like Tommy Robinson in

the UK, Valentina Gomez, how you doing

today? How's it going for you? Cuz I

heard they

>> She's pretty cringe.

>> She's a She's an idiot, dude. Okay, I

don't know if she's paid to do it or

what. I don't know. But how come there's

not as much outrage now? We've I've said

it on air multiple times. So has Sunny.

If they catch Pakistani dudes grooming

and taking little girls and kids, bro,

we will be the first ones to pull the

rope, bro, on the guillotine. I swear to

God, bro,

>> I swear to God, if they allowed me

legally, I'll be the first one. We're

not allowed to burn, right, in Islam.

>> I don't know.

>> We're not supposed to. That's only for

God. But anything else, we can do a

triple becker.

>> What's the triple becker?

>> Well, we have to change it for this, but

you hang them slowly so they're not they

don't die right away. You lift them in

the air. While they're lifted in the

air, you open fire on them and someone's

whipping them at the same time. That's

the question.

>> That's what they should be doing to

everyone on Epste's list, bro. But but

in any event, I'm going to pass the mic

to you, but please pull up that email

just so we don't forget. Okay. Cuz I

mean, when are too many coincidences?

When are there too many coincidences?

>> Building number seven. You know, I

didn't know about building number seven

till years later. I was underneath the

World Trade Center the day it was hit,

Julian. Okay. I was on the Era

underneath the building. I watched those

buildings come down in front of my eyes.

I cried. I was like, "Let's go and get

these motherfuckered.

because my heart was swollen that day. I

love my city.

>> Yeah.

>> I don't love it anymore.

>> You don't love it anymore.

>> It's lost its character completely.

>> Really?

>> I don't recognize it. There's a lot of

great new buildings going up, but that

energy of you could do anything and this

is the place everybody wants to be.

Julian, it's not there anymore.

>> You don't think that's there in New

York?

>> Nope.

>> Nope. There's still young kids having

fun in the streets, but that Wall Street

money, that energy, that this is the the

heart of capitalism.

You're going to tell me you feel that

there? I mean, I don't know how familiar

>> different. I I'll agree. If you're just

talking about like, you know, the ' 80s,

'90s kind of like center of the world

capitalism type thing.

>> We were about to hit 150 million

tourists before

>> shut down of 20. Okay, which by the way,

those seem to be in the emails, too.

>> A lot of what happened. And

>> yeah, don't get off topic though. Let's

see what So for me it's like how many

coincidence coincidences do you need to

see as an American, as a freethinker, as

a citizen of the world before you say

there's something really wrong going on

with the world. It's not just the way it

has to be. That we have a duty as people

whether we believe in God or not to be

moral and upright and to stand for

what's just. That's why when I saw you

rant with Lutnik, brother, my heart was

full of joy because I don't feel alone

in this battle. And it doesn't matter if

you're a Muslim, not a Muslim. We can

agree on what is right. Right now, we

have bigger palms. Christians and

Muslims both believe Jesus Christ will

return. Let him tell us who was right or

wrong. Let's focus on these evil people

pushing disgusting things on our

children and pulling us into war after

war after war. That's not benefiting

anybody.

>> I will admit, we had planned to do this,

you know, like five, six weeks ago, so

before some of this stuff happened. So,

it's just coincidental that you're here

a week and a half after these files came

out and everything. But yes, there's a

lot to be very negative about right now.

Yes, there are groups that need to be

called out. Yes, there are

establishments that need to be flipped

over and changed. I'm not arguing with

any of this. We're going to talk about

it today. But the one thing that I do

try to fight back on on the show

whenever I talk with anyone, regardless

of what perspective they're coming from,

is the complete Dumerville stuff. And I

know that's hard to do in a moment like

this and it's contrarian thinking, but

when we start saying everything has

fallen, the cities are all gone,

everything's a dump or whatever, I'm

more of an optimist. I'm not saying that

I disagree with you, Beck, that the vibe

is not different from say the 80s and

90s. Even if I wasn't alive during that,

I know quite well it's different. You

can talk to people who were there.

>> But like,

>> you know, shit's still standing. I

remember when I was wondering if that

was going to be a thing at the beginning

of 2021 with New York. Delasio had

[ __ ] ruined the whole city and and

the pandemic had ruined the city

>> and somehow like it came back. The sun

came up, people returned.

>> Is it what it was in the 80s or 90s?

Maybe not.

>> Not even 2019, brother.

>> It can be. So the whole like that's the

whole thing, Beck. Like sometimes I feel

like you got the weight of the world on

your shoulders and YOU'RE LIKE IT'S ALL

GOING TO END. WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. WE

GOT TO GET THE [ __ ] OUT OF HERE RIGHT

NOW. AND IT'S LIKE WE GOT TO we got to

tamp that back a little bit and try to

see where the sun came up and where the

grass is green. You

>> know,

>> my friend, if we don't take out this

network, there ain't going to be no

[ __ ] sun. Not for you, not for me,

not for our children. Simple. We could

sit here and be positive in Kumbaya. And

I agree, a positive mindset is a better

way to live life. And honestly, the

funnest way to live life is the way

everyone else is. Bad bunny. This

ignorance is bliss. But unfortunately, I

think too many people, and I'm not

saying you cuz you're I consider you on

the front line. Doesn't matter if you

have my views or not. on the front line.

>> The front line of getting to the truth

of this life,

>> why we're here,

>> what the [ __ ] the purpose, what's

really going on in this world, right?

>> Sure.

>> So, I take my hat off to people like

you, Danny Jones, Jimmy Dory. Okay.

Anyone that's allowing people to speak

so other people can listen

>> and kind of try to maybe see different

perspectives or what's really going on.

But I tend to have more of like I think

like in the case of Malibu and the

palaces, the way it burned down, I feel

like a lot of people until their [ __ ]

roof, not even their neighbor's house is

on fire. The minute the first shingle on

theirs, that's when they start worrying.

>> I don't think we live in a time and a

world where we can wait anymore until

the fire comes to our own home, the

nation's on fire, it's been on fire,

it's been bled, it's been dissolved. No

one should have any influence on our

country. I don't care if it's Albania,

Israel, I don't give a [ __ ] China, no

one. How much of that is because we have

access to the internet and social media

today versus say the 1960s when our

government whacked the president. We

went to Vietnam on a lie, you know, like

all this [ __ ] MLK got killed. Like

imagine if social media and the internet

was around then. What kind of [ __ ]

Epstein files would have been coming

out?

>> I'd say that's the biggest factor and

why most people woke up. I don't know a

single person my age that would go to

the Middle East and die nowadays. Nobody

under the age of 25 would want to go die

for a foreign nation. It's um it's

madness. And I I think a lot of people's

problems is that we don't like to put

ourselves in in somebody else's shoes.

So even with that, you know,

conservative liberal split, like if you

put yourself into a liberal shoes, I do

think a lot of them do have good

intentions, bro. Like, so let's say in

Islam, let's say you say something

disrespectful about the prophet or about

God or something in general, but I

believe you're sincere. God says in the

Quran, repel evil with what is best.

like best in speech, best in body

language, best in nature,

and the one you're in a feud with will

be like a close friend. So, I think a

lot of our problem is that we keep

trying to fight fire with fire and

that's only dividing us further apart.

And this is why no one's able to come

together and do something like fix this

when we have this in front of our faces

that the people that are in charge of

our media, our politicians are not only

blackmailed by a foreign nation, but

they're doing demonic rituals in front

of our eyes.

>> All right, so a couple things here,

Saraph, you know. Number one, if we

didn't have access to the internet for

all those years and this type of [ __ ]

was going on, what does that say about

now having access to it that we're this

angry and worried about the

civilizational risk if we were

blissfully ignorant for so long that it

was already a thing? Well, at least the

older generation, you can speak on this

probably even better than me.

>> You guys at least got to buy a house.

>> You at least your minimum wage, you were

able to afford things and take your girl

out. You could have a man running the

home and supporting.

>> It's been a little crazy. Only 20.

>> Yeah. Houses cost a million dollars on

this side of the water since the early

2000s. So, take it easy there, kid.

>> Okay. My grandparents then.

>> All the women were virgins at that time.

>> You can't even get a wife now. Yes. Most

of them. Most of them. Pull it up on my

Instagram. You can pull it up if you

want. I did a video with my grandma and

all her sisters. There's five of them.

>> Who was? I said, "What made a woman a

[ __ ] back in the day?" I asked my

grandma this. She goes, "One was a

[ __ ] More than one was a hoa. How many

people you've slept with the greatest?"

>> This isn't even 60 years ago.

>> Yo, shout out to his grandmother and his

aunts, bro. Amazing cooks, bro.

>> But the point that I was making before

was how they're blowing up kids in front

of the world and then gaslighting us

about it. If they really wanted to wipe

>> Yeah. If if they really wanted to just

get rid of the Palestinians, they didn't

have to do it how they did in front of

the whole world. And I made that. This

is where you go back to prophecy and you

go back to what is the spiritual side of

things. Do you want to take this one?

>> I just wanted to add they made a

catastrophic mistake in their approach.

>> If they were smart, if their

intelligence and the ones pushing all

this propaganda were smart, they would

have stuck to just dehumanizing Arabs.

Instead, they wanted to pull in two

billion people. You see, when you say

all Muslims are this and all, now you're

talking about me. You should have stuck

to dehumanizing Arabs. You guys have

done a great job in Hollywood. You never

seen an Arab ever look even halfway

normal in a movie or cartoon ever.

>> But they're the minority. They're 19% of

Muslims. Did you know that they're only

19% of Muslims?

>> So when you talk about the faith, now

you're poking a massive bear,

>> right?

>> Now you're poking two billion people.

And we've covered this on your show. I I

believe it was with you too and Danny

that Muslims throughout history, if you

pull it up, if you're being fair, if

you're actually looking at it in

context, have always shielded the Jews.

Always. Even in Albania, which was

predominantly Muslim at the time, even

though Christians did help in those

actions when the Germans took over

throughout history, we protected them.

They talk about the Muslims invading

Spain. Have you read the history?

>> The Goth kingdoms.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't

invite. They were invited in. Half the

kingdom was fighting the other half. You

know this.

>> I'm famili by the way. I'm familiar with

this history, but I'm not.

>> I wasn't. Half of the Goth kingdom was

fighting the other half because it

wasn't called Spain. They like, "Hey,

Moors, can you come help us win one cuz

we don't want this other half of us.

They didn't they were fighting each

other. The Muslims came in and it was a

golden age in European history.

Literally a golden age. All three

religions practiced in in Spain.

Inventions advanced. Jews flourished

like flowers in spring.

in Andalusia. Everyone, I dare you to

read the history of Andalusia. An

amazing it's what it was called during

the uh Moors when they controlled that

part of Spain. But I want to remind

people they didn't come as conqueror.

They were invited by half of that

kingdom. Okay? So the way the history is

portrayed, the way it's spun, the way

they try to paint this faith only

benefits one group of people right now

to distract from what's been going on in

the Middle East for the last 24, 25 now

years. And dehumanization is the number

one tool used by any occupiers. But we

won't excuse what the Chinese did to the

weagers. I still mention them. What's

going on in Sudan? Okay, they're not off

the hook. And I agree with other Jews

when they say, "But what about Sudan?"

But but okay, so let me justify one

horrible thing. But they're doing it,

too. That's not a [ __ ] excuse. I'm

sorry.

>> It's not. No, that's never

>> But that's what they do. But what about

this? No, I am. See, I actually I'm one

of them ones calling them all out.

Everyone, whether it's an Arab country

doing it or it does, human beings have

rights and especially in the faith of

Islam. And anyone that's not following

that, in my opinion, you ain't a Muslim.

>> Well, there's another there's another

thing I keep thinking here as you're

talking about Muslims, Christians, and

and Jews. And then I can apply this to

any of the other major religions as

well. It's like that and and I'll admit

it like I do it too. But that's also

like the starting problem with the

conversation because we box up, you

know, a billion people with in in in the

case of Islam. So almost two billion

people. You box up a similar number with

Christians. You box up, you know,

millions of Jews all into one box and

refer to it as a monolith. when in fact,

you know, your Christian neighbor who

goes to church on Sunday and lets you

think whatever you do and doesn't drag

their opinions on to you and everything

is a very different type of Christian

than someone's who's who's in like a

Christian cult that thinks that like

anyone who Yeah. who thinks anyone that

commit that commits a sin should be

executed or something like that. Same

thing with an Albanian Muslim versus a

hardcore Sharia law Muslim living in

Iran or something like that. These are

people that are not even on the same

planet. They don't have any tie to each

other. They claim that the tie is

religion, but the way that they view

that lens of religion are two entirely

different things. So, I think we also

have to separate out the conversation

when we're talking about this. And

that's why anytime we're talking about

any type of group or whatever, I get

uptight about that cuz it's like I don't

want to ever define people by one thing.

And that has happened with Islam for

sure. It has happened with the Arab

community for sure. and that's why

you're here talking about it. But like

it happens all over to all different

groups. Even when we think it's

something that's like not as much, you

know, vitriol going at it. What happens

when suddenly it is, you know?

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Um,

yeah, we try to be as specific as as we

can when we're talking about subjects,

you know what I mean? Um, we never try

to group like a whole group. And just

like the way we say not all Catholic

priests are pedos and they're not pedos

because of Catholicism, right?

>> The same way we don't say, you know, all

Jews are extremists. It's just not true.

I have plenty of Jewish friends. One, my

best friend that was Jewish, Benader,

shout out him. He just passed away a few

years ago. It broke my heart.

>> 25-year-old kid.

>> So, yeah, I get what you're saying, bro.

>> Yeah. It's just like

>> you try to do a good job at that.

>> Yeah. This is a real There is so much

[ __ ] up [ __ ] right now. Again, we're

talking about the doomer versus optimism

argument. You still, even if you're an

optimist like me, you got to admit there

is a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ] going on and

the way that we handle it where it's

like instead of continuing to fight so

horizontally, we need to focus on

fighting vertically, right? And I think

in the vertical direction, there's all

different types of groups of people from

all over the world. If you if you want

to call it a group, call it like the

globalist coalition, if you will. That

is I love the pizza example. I'm going

to keep using it, Sunny. like they keep

slicing us up in all these ways. And as

long as we use our little microphones

here to cutely [ __ ] yell about it and

whatever all the time and just focus on

a couple different things that they tell

us to focus on, we're not going to

change [ __ ] That said, when we see

something drop like what just did with

Epstein and it is a wide vast money

laundering, arms dealing, inner

government,

sex trafficking, you name it, laundry

list of stuff here.

>> Global that global that attaches to

everyone. That is the exact type of

situation we should all coales around

because it can actually change the

system if we do something about it.

Julian, I have a question for you. If

you were to put a million people in and

around Time Square packed

and you had to have them unify on one

thing to where there's no fighting,

bickering, and everyone's peaceful

together, what would that be?

>> That's an amazing question.

No one's fighting and no one's

bickering.

>> Nope. They're stepping on feet and

whatnot, but they're all brothers. They

get along.

>> Different ethnicities, groups,

languages,

>> all over people from all over the world.

>> What could unify them? that social

>> if I could unify them under one thing I

would say

forget religion forget screed forget all

that

something created us and it was the same

thing we may not know all know the

answer but the same thing created all of

us and let's just accept the fact we're

only here for a second and let's enjoy

it while we're here that's that's what I

would unify

>> brother you nailed that submission to

one creator bro

>> submission to one creator I know you

wanted to talk about Islam a little bit

do you know much about the actual faith

itself or anything.

>> Assume I don't.

>> Assume you don't. Do you know what the

word Islam in itself means?

>> Isn't it peace?

>> No.

>> No.

>> It's one of the meanings. It is one of

the mean. Salomi. He's correct. It's one

of the meanings.

>> But the word exactly. Look up. Are you

on Google right now?

>> Look up submission to the will of God

translated to Arabic.

>> I'm gonna wait. Wait a second because I

want you to see this.

>> Also, I think we said this. So, I just

want to make sure that Galain email is

real. Defa had it on the screen.

>> It is real. It is real. No, I'm saying

it's real. It's real.

>> Is it's real.

That's accurate. She says, "Thanks for

the invite. Unfortunately, I cannot be

on the shadow commission." And this is

from 2003. And it's referring to the

shadow commission on 911, which she was

invited to in the email below her by

someone named Ed Epstein.

>> Ed J. Epste.

>> Yeah.

>> Did you find it?

>> Yeah. Islam. So if you were to directly

translate in English submission to the

will of God, you would get the word

Islam. That's the direct translation.

Did the uh direct translation. Now, do

you know what the word Muslim means?

>> No.

>> Look up one who submits their will

to God

translated to Arabic.

Muslim. So if you were to directly

translate one who submits their will to

God, you would have the word Muslim.

We're not called Muhamadans for a

reason. We don't believe that Islam

started with the prophet Muhammad. Did

you know that?

>> You don't?

>> No.

>> No.

>> No.

>> Where do you think it started?

>> Adam.

>> Adam. Even before Adam, actually. So we

believe there's two free willed

creations on Earth. Humans and jin,

which would be like spirits or demons.

So they also

>> refer back to the last episode with

Julian. comes up all the time like

>> he went deep on that. So you remember

how he said how the unseen creation jin

they have free will as well right?

>> The jin

>> the jin

>> the jin

>> the gin says

>> so they were actually on earth first and

then God created Adam right so this is

why we say all the prophets and

messengers of God were Muslim because

they all submitted their will to God

every single one of them. Abraham wasn't

Christian wasn't Jewish. He was a

Muslim. He

>> didn't even exist. Those words didn't

even exist.

>> David, Noah, they were all Muslims. They

all preached worship God alone.

>> Moses and saying, "I'm a Jew."

>> Wait, so you're saying like

figuratively?

>> No, literally like we believe in all the

messengers, bro. Every single messenger

that Christianity and Judaism did.

>> Do they identify that way or do you guys

identify them as that because of what

they did?

>> Can I You want you

>> You answer that one.

>> You got this or no?

>> No, you take it.

>> Let the spiritual leader do it. So what

the Muslims what the Muslim says is the

concept of worshiping the the one

creator has always existed.

>> The word we use is the Arabic meaning of

that word but the concept of submitting

to the one creator or as we call it the

God of Abraham has always existed. God

did not choose just any nation. He chose

the Israelites to give revelation but he

didn't choose them above humanity. He

chose them to deliver the message. So

what we're trying to say is Adam was the

first human being created. Adam and Eve,

right? And they were in a state of

submission to the creator, right? So

they were Muslims because of how they

lived their lives. The concept of

submitting to the one God is why if you

look at all the scriptures, they all

worshiped God the same way. As I also

mentioned on previous episodes with you,

it's the same reason why Jesus in

Matthew 26 36-39

prayed with his head on the ground. So

what we say is God sent prophets and

messengers throughout time, throughout

history. He didn't just choose one

nation. He sent prophets and messengers.

Sometimes they were sent just to remind

people of the message that came before

them. Jesus Christ didn't come to change

anything. He came down and lived as a

what you would call a Jew. That word

didn't exist. The word Jew was more from

modern history. They were the

Israelites. The Israelites were Muslim,

meaning they submitted to the God of

Abraham. They worshiped the one God. We

broke this on Danny Jones. We broke this

on you. Viral many times thanks to both

of you that the word Allah is the

cognate of all three religions. Elah or

Elohim, Allah in the Arabic, and Allah

in the language of Christ. Christ didn't

speak English, bro.

>> Spoke Aramaic.

>> He didn't speak Italian. He spoke

Aramaic.

>> He might have spoken some.

>> So, one who submits their will, we just

Sunonny just showed you one submitting

their will to God. And the word for God

means Muslim, right? In Arabic. If we

took the Aramaic, and I want you to do

your shalom allay because it's a great

bit.

>> Let's do it.

>> You do it. They It's like Muslim tag

teaming here. So when someone is

submitting to Allaha, which is what

Jesus did, or Elohim, which is what

Moses did, they are submitting to the

same God. It's the same word. So the

concept of a Muslim has always existed.

One who puts God before everything else.

>> Yeah. So we're not saying that

Christians and Muslims have have the

same God. What Christians call the

father, like the God that Jesus prayed

to in the Bible, that's who we would say

is the only true God and the only being

worthy of worship. Does that make sense?

>> It totally makes sense. like on a on a

definitive level like what it is and I I

wonder this about everyone who's you

know very devout in a in an organized

religion does it matter to you that your

religion

is right when technically you nor the

person that would say you're wrong

whoever they may be knows the answer to

it while we're here on earth. Well, we

believe it's our, you know, part of our

job to simply deliver the message

clearly and cohesively. So, we don't

believe that we can force anyone to

convert. God says in the Quran there's

no compulsion in religion. So, if you I

don't even like debating, bro, to be

quite honest with you. He's done a

debate. I said don't do it. I don't want

him to do any more debates. I never plan

on doing a debate in my entire life. I

believe the truth speaks for itself. I

mean, Julian, do you believe there's

nothing worthy of worship except our

creator?

>> Sure.

>> Do you believe that there's angels?

I don't know if I've ever actually

That's funny. I don't know if I've ever

thought like if I fully believe in it.

Probably. Yeah.

>> Okay. Do you believe that this creator

sent messengers?

>> I don't know.

>> So, we can we can stop there and and and

tackle this one point right here. Men

throughout time came claiming to be a

messenger on behalf of their creator.

Right. Abraham said he's not just some

guy that's spiritual and he's fasting

and he's like this is a way of life you

know like you know some people say

meditating some people say yoga is a way

of life no he came saying I got a

message from a creator to speak with

humanity they're directly claiming to be

the one that's communicating to uh

humanity on behalf of God right so then

you have to look at the evidences at the

time for why are they a true prophet or

not prophet meaning messenger

>> so with Abraham what was his miracle. He

was thrown into a fire at the at his

time

>> and he survived.

>> His own father threw him into

>> his own family threw him into a fire and

he survived and came out. All the all

the people around him were idol

worshippers. He was calling them to

worship God alone. At the time of Moses,

he literally split the sea. He and all

of the prophets claimed to um they all

called you to worship God alone. Jesus,

what did he do? He walked on water. He

turned a clay bird into life. He did

plenty of miracles for the cradle. He

spoke from the cradle in Islam. There's

actually miracles about Jes.

>> Yes. There's miracles in Islam about

Jesus that the Bible doesn't actually

acknowledge. One very logical one being

>> him speaking as a baby.

>> Yeah.

>> Like how young

literally out within infancy. So So and

just to hit this point first because

it's important what you're saying and

we'll get to that. So it's important to

know that

um basically you know God didn't make

faith where you have to like you need

someone to teach you. I don't come from

a religious family. Sunny didn't even

come from a Muslim family and he found

Islam.

>> I didn't know Sunny before he became a

Muslim. I had nothing to do with it.

>> Um so you know we believe that a lot of

these revelations were sent down. They

were corrupted. Okay. Christians didn't

have access to the Bible for almost 1500

years. Sunny actually refreshed my

memory on that one. They didn't have

access, regular Christians did not have

access to the Bible, their own book for

almost 1500 years. Forget about when he

lived and didn't live. Forget the fact

that it was compiled after his death

until the printing press came and there

was translations. They did not even have

access. The only way they could access

it was through the clergy. So in the

Quran, thousands of his followers had it

memorized, committed to heart. They're

known as the hafi. This is a phenomenon

that you Ramadan's next week.

>> I [ __ ] dare you to come, Julian.

>> Go ahead.

>> I dare you to come just one night this

Ramadan and witness it yourself. Watch

the imam sing the book without even

looking at it. If he makes one mistake

of a syllable, just one syllable off the

entire congregation, most of them can

correct him. It's literally they could

destroy every Quran on earth and within

an hour. I'm not making this up to you,

but Jesus said in John 15, John 16,

because people talk about miracles. All

of the prophets of God did miracles.

Okay? John the Baptist, they chopped his

head off. Jesus Christ based on

Christianity, they want to hang him up

like a piñata and and torture him to

death. We don't believe that happened to

him. So, every prophet had miracles, but

the miracle of Islam is the book itself

because there will be no more prophets.

There will be no more messengers. We do

believe Jesus comes back to finish his

mission

>> as and you guys view him as a

>> as the Messiah.

>> The Messiah. Yeah.

>> The Messiah. He spoke from the minute he