The imagination is real: Terence McKenna | Full Lecture 1996 | Nonlocal Data
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It's real. It's not woo woo. It's
actually scientifically true at the
fundamental core of physics that all
space and all time is in some form of
simultaneous connection. I believe this
is what the human imagination is that
you have two eyes to show you local
space and then you have an organ called
the mind which doesn't protrude anywhere
on the surface of your body except
occasionally in some cases it will lodge
on a surrogate but generally the mind is
invisible
uh but it gives you non-local data
that's what the imagination is that's
non-local data. Everything in the
imagination is real somewhere somewhere
so far away in space and time that it
makes absolutely no sense to give it
another thought ever again. Don't ever
think that thought again. But know that
everything in the imagination is real.
All right. Wonderful to see so many
people turned out uh after having just
been here a scant uh year ago. I'm
delighted that they invited me back. Uh
the deal is no jokes about Camaro
raffles, no jokes about Mulivite
suppositories.
So just consider it as if it didn't
happen.
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When I think about talking to an
audience like this, I go through my
toolkit and try to say you know what is
cogent, what's meaningful, what can
bring us forward and there seem to be
it's a changing list but at the moment
what seems to be going is the old
perennial
psychedelic alteration of consciousness
for purposes of personal exploration,
social reformation, creation of a new
art, a new politic. That's one of the of
the major pieces of the puzzle. Another
major piece is uh the new communications
technologies and I mean not only the
internet but the software that allows us
each and every one of us to be
animators, filmmakers,
visually expressive people who can
produce
emotionally moving works of great depth
and beauty.
This is something that technology has
brought to us. And strangely enough, a
technology largely produced by
psychedelic heads, people like
ourselves.
I told you last year, I think when we
discussed drugs and technology that the
only difference between a computer and a
psychedelic was one was too large to
swallow.
Well, you know, great progress has been
made in 12 months. uh in another three
or four years we will be able to swallow
the computer. Some of us may never be
able to swallow it. Uh the third piece
of the puzzle which is sort of mine
alone to play with since no one else
wants to be this publicly crazy is uh
the whole business of novelty theory.
The approach of a singularity in time
that is sculpting the human and natural
world and that is so large an object in
the
intuitive sphere of human beings that it
almost has religious overtones.
And then the question for me and the
question for you I suppose is how much
of this can you take without having to
take it all? How much of these ideas can
you embibe without having to go uh the
whole distance? And the answer is, you
know, it's a personal matter for each
person to feel into their circumstance,
which means their history, both
psychedelic and non-sychedelic,
and then to feel into the projection of
their future. Do you think you are
repeating the lifestyles and algorithms
of your parents and grandparents at
infanitum back to Adam? Or do you feel
like you've stepped to the front of the
train of human evolution that you are
making yourself new every day? If we
reach too far back into the stabilizing
metaphors of the past, we get rigidity,
habit,
limitation.
If we step too quickly into the
unlimited freedom of the future, we lose
our grounding. Uh, socialism
did this over the past hundred years.
And because it abandoned any contact
with a realistic human psychology, the
best intended people ended up creating
nightmare societies. If your theory is
not true to the nature of humanness, you
will end up beating human beings like
metal on the anvil of your ideology.
And this creates great human suffering
and uh and uh
historical catastrophe.
And I maintain that our own society
suffers from an a a failure to
adequately
model and reflect the true nature of
human beings. We have ideas. We have
ideals that get in the way of realism
and immediate experience.
And when I was thinking about all of
this and how to put it into a metaphor
that would be appealing and amusing and
and lead people to look deeper into
these things, uh I began to play with
the idea of it's a religious idea. You
all have heard although probably more
often in English than in Latin the
thought in principio at verbam at
verbboaraktomest
which means in the beginning was the
word and the word was made flesh.
This is the great overarching myth of
western religion. It equally informs
Islam, Christianity, Judaism. These
three great flavors of monotheism
all accept this primary statement. In
the beginning was the word and the word
was made flesh.
What does it mean for a moment? Taken
away from the tire exugesus of the cults
that have hammered at it for so long.
What does it mean in and of itself? It
means that language
is somehow the privileged
medium of exchange between human beings
and the divine.
That the dissent of the word into flesh
makes the flesh more than flesh. Makes
the word more than the word. The union
of flesh and word launches the cosmic
drama of fall and redemption. That is
the myth of western society.
And for centuries and centuries, we've
concentrated on one end of this story of
the fall and the redemption. We have
concentrated on the fall.
But meanwhile,
through all the grimy
betrayals and bloody backsliding of
human history, the word has quietly
advanced its agenda. And I've been
thinking a lot about this recently
because in a new book I'm writing, I'm
writing a lot about spoken language
speech
and I've come to a conclusion that
typical of me is far from orthodoxy and
far from much cover provided by anybody
else's ideas on this matter. I've come
to the conclusion that language is very
old.
Thinking is very old. Communicating
is very old by glance, by gesture, by
dance, by meme, by intuition. But speech
is very recent.
It's a technological innovation
as fresh as uh the pantium chip or the
spinning wheel. It's something someone
invented somewhere. It's the most
successful technological leap forward
ever made. It's the discovery of
symbolic signification.
That a noise meaning nothing can by
convention be given a meaning and that
that meaning will then attend that
utterance wherever it occurs in the
presence of those who have joined. in
the agreement that attaches the symbol
to the meaningless utterance. It's a
coding breakthrough. Somebody hacked
this about 35,000
years ago and immediately as forms of
media have a way of doing. It swamped
the previous methods of communication
because a it worked in the dark.
uh suddenly uh evenings were not so
boring anymore. Uh it worked in the
dark. It also the touchyfey forms of
communication were generally oneon-one
and related probably to having sex or
aggressive physical encounters. But
suddenly one voice could reach many and
many could respond.
And virtual reality was born at that
moment. Not here in the late 20th
century, but at that moment because
acoustical
environments
laden with symbolic meaning became the
name of the game. Stories is what we
call these things and they are uh the
proper use of the advanced form of media
known as human speech. It's using human
speech to create three-dimensional
scenarios that unfold and everyone is
carried along with the drama and the
wonder of it. From that beginning and a
in a series of successively accelerating
leaps, the word has made its way into
the world. Uh it's interesting that uh
straight linguists and paleolinguists
believe human language is no more than
35,000 years old. Imagine that. We
possess homo sapiens sapien skeletons
110,000 years old. People like the
person who rode with you on the bus
yesterday. People that modern. And yet
the experts tell us no one spoke until
35,000 years ago.
No one wrote until 5 or 6,000 years ago.
Reading and writing is simply a carrying
forward of the original program of
signification.
first using acoustical signals and then
some other hacker had the brilliant
idea, well if we can use sound to carry
abstract associations, why not abstract
symbols to carry abstract associations?
And writing was born. And what writing
allows is expansion of the database
because things are not dependent on the
the wetwware of human memory to survive
from generation to generation. Suddenly
the mush of brain is replaced by the
durability of wood and stone and clay
and these things then become the medium
upon which the primary database of the
culture is being carried forward. Well
the rest of the story you know and this
is not a lecture in the history of
communication. Each succeeding
refinement in communication has brought
the word deeper into its association
with the flesh until the present. And at
this moment there is a kind of a uh what
dynamicists call a cusp,
a turning of the system upon its axes.
And the word is now beginning to make
the return journey to the mysterious and
hidden source from which it descended.
In other words, spirit is now beginning
to disentangle
itself from matter. The 20th century
will be remembered as the great clash
point or the great arena of conflict
between the triumphal
positivist and rational systems that
European thought has developed over the
past 300 years and the new irrational
systems of thought which anthropology
cheerfully imported into white high
culture in the guise of repotage about
the primitive.
But this repotage about the primitive
turns out to be a kind of
oraboric conundrum. The snake taking its
tail in its mouth. In the past h 100red
years as these super technologies have
been developed in the west the smashing
of atoms the invention of of radio
television computers immunology so forth
and so on
data has been arriving about the
practices of aboriginal cultures all
over the planet that they dissolve
ordinary realities ordinary cultural
values through an interaction a symbio
iosis, a relationship to local plants
that perturb brain chemistry. And in
this domain of perturbed brain
chemistry, the cultural operating system
is wiped clean.
And something older, even for these
people, something older, more
vitalistic, more in touch with the
animal soul replaces it. Replaces the
cultural operating system. something not
determined by history and geography but
something written.
You are not naked when you take off your
clothes. You still wear your religious
assumptions, your prejudices, your
fears, your illusions, your delusions.
When you shed the cultural operating
system, then
essentially you stand naked before the
inspection of your own psyche. Desmond
Morris called it the naked ape. And it's
from that position, a position outside
the cultural operating system, that we
can begin to ask real questions about
what does it mean to be human? What kind
of circumstance are we caught in? And
what kind of structures, if any, can we
put in place to assuage the pain and
accentuate the glory and the wonder that
lurks waiting for us in this very narrow
slice of time between the birth canal
and the yawning grave.
In other words, we have to return to
first premises.
So, I've been thinking about this a lot
and at first it seemed to me only a
metaphor, this phrase, culture is your
operating system. But because I travel
around a lot and get that jolting
experience frequently of let's say
leaving London on a foggy evening and
arriving in Johannesburg 14 hours later
to a sweltering day in a city of 14
million on the brink of anarchy. I get
to change my operating system frequently
and so I notice the relativity of these
systems and some work for some things
and some for others. For instance, if
you are a positivist,
if you're running positivism 4.0,
you can't support UFOs. Positivism 4.0
does not support UFOs. If on the other
hand you're running your runa book 5.1
as your operating system uh UFOs and a
number of other things can get in
through the door. That is what we would
technically say is a more tolerant
operating system or its plugins support
special effects denied the positivist.
Well, uh, it's fun to think this way
because it shows you that you're you
don't have to be the victim of your
culture. It's not like your eye color or
your height or your gender. Uh, it's
it's fragile. It can be remade if you
wish it to be. And then the question is,
well, how do how does one um uh download
a new operating system? Well, first of
all, you have to clear some space on
your disc. Uh, the best way to do this
is probably with a pharmacological
agent. Um,
you think of some while I have a drink
of water.
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Psilocybin is an excellent disc cleaner.
uh you can put a lot of things in the
trash and have them just disappear uh
with a uh psilocybin upgrade.
Uh other pharmacological agents that
will clear your disc are uh iawaska
and of course these are gentle clearings
of the disc which take 5 6 7 hours. Uh
if you're in a hurry to dump that old
data and leap right into the new
operating system. uh click on the button
marked dimethylryptoamine.
Uh a compressed disc eraser will
immediately be downloaded unsted been
hexed implemented installed run and uh
and you will find yourself with an
entirely different head. Um,
now shamans have always
known, though they may not have used the
kind of language I'm using here, shamans
have always known this trick.
What trick? It has two facets. First of
all, that culture is an operating
system. That's all it is. And that the
operating system can be wiped out and
replaced by something else. So in
essentially what's going on among
shamans and those who resort to them uh
for curing and and counseling and so
forth is somebody's running a slightly
more advanced operating system than the
customer. Uh the the shaman is in
possession of certain facts about
plants, about animals, about healing,
about human psychology, about the local
geography, about mojo of many different
sorts. that the client is not aware of.
The client is running culture light. The
shaman paid for the registered and
licensed version of the software and uh
is running a much heavier version of the
software than the client. I think we
should all aspire to make this upgrade.
Uh it's very important that you have all
the bells and whistles. uh on your
operating system. Otherwise, somebody is
going to be able to get a leg up uh on
you.
Well, what's wrong with the operating
system that we have? Uh consumer
capitalism 5.0 or whatever it is. Well,
it's dumb.
Uh
it's retro.
It's very non-competitive.
It's messy. It wastes the environment.
It wastes human resources. Uh, it's
inefficient. It runs on stereotypes. It
runs on a low sampling rate, which is
what creates stereotypes. Low sample
rates uh make uh everybody appear alike
when in fact the glory is in everyone's
differences. Uh and the current
operating system uh is flawed.
It actually has bugs in it uh that
generate contradictions. Contradictions
such as we're cutting the earth from
beneath our own feet. We're poisoning
the atmosphere that we breathe. This is
not intelligent behavior. This is a
culture with a bug and its operating
system that's making it produce erratic,
dysfunctional, malfunctional behavior.
Time to call the tech.
And who are the techs? The shamans are
the techs.
Well, so I think you get the idea. Uh
very important to upgrade your operating
system by dumping obsolete cultural sub
routines. They are simply taking up disk
space. They are not advancing uh you in
any way. whatsoever.
Now,
a very large group of people who
followed this advice and rebuilt their
operating systems in the 1960s
went on then to build this most amazing
of all cultural artifacts, the internet.
The internet is light at the end of the
tunnel. I don't care if it's being used
to pedal pornography. I don't care if
it's being trivialized in a thousand
ways. Anything can be trivialized.
The important point is that it is
leveling the playing field of global
society. It is creating de facto an
entirely new set of political realities.
None of the constipated oligarchic
structures that are resisting this were
ever asked. Their greed betrayed them
into investing in this in the first
place without ever fully grasping what
the implications of it were for their
larger agenda. The internet basically
means you can now be as as free as you
are motivated to be, as free as you dare
to be. Tim Liry years ago, it was
something he used to say that never got
quoted as much as turn on, tune in, drop
out, but it seemed to me it it was maybe
better advice. And he used to say, "Find
the others.
Find the others."
Well, you know, if you're a gay kid in
Fargo, North Dakota, if you're a
masculine enthusiast in Winnipeg, if
you're a student of alchemy and moose
jaw, community is pretty much out of
reach uh for you or it was until the
coming of the internet. And the internet
introduces everybody, no matter how
weird, no matter how marginalized, no
matter how peculiar, to the fact that
there are others like you. There are
others like you. Find the others. Make
common cause. uh realize that uh it's
the deals you cut and the friends you
make that determine where you're going
to be standing when the flash hits. I
mean, that's just obvious. And by you
see, the cultural game is a game of
uniformitarianism.
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Cultural myths are that we are all
alike. We Americans
each created equal. I mean, if you can
believe that at an operational level,
then I have some bridges I would like to
sell you. Uh it it's a necessary truth
to do political business. But it is not
the truth. The truth is that you are not
created equal with yourself from day to
day. Leave alone any comparison with
anybody else. You are not the person you
were yesterday nor the person you will
be next week. What is an observation
like that uh what shadow does it cast in
a world of all people are created equal?
Uh these are clashes of operating
systems. There's an axiom in one all
created equal and an axiom in the other
each divergent. These things can't be
parsed. They can't be brought together.
So culture plays a game of
simplification.
If you can make people think alike, they
will buy alike. They will worship alike.
And if you know politics demands it,
they will kill alike.
So the uniformitarian agenda of culture
is not an agenda friendly to you or to
me or to any other individual. And if
you start out from that point of view,
you will soon realize
that culture is not your friend.
Now this is not exactly PC to say what
with everybody running around recovering
their Latvian roots and their Irishness
and their this whatever culture is not
your friend. If you define yourself as a
member of a group
of any group,
know that that is a gross simplification
and that everything about you that is
interesting and unique is betrayed by
defining yourself in that way. Uh, you
know, most racism is practiced by people
of the race
that they are making racial judgments
about. White people have far more racial
opinions about white people than any
other racial group because that's where
they spend their time. These gross
simplifications
betray humanity, betray uniqueness, make
sane politics impossible. What we have
to do is get back to
the reality of the flesh, the reality of
the individual
identity. This is how we come packaged.
Uh a race, that's an abstraction. These
days, you have to have three years of
genetics under your belt to give a
satisfactory definition of the word if
we're really going to go to the math on
it. I mean, it's an it's an it's an
abstraction of modern science. It's a
notion so far removed from anything you
and I come in contact with that we
should just junk it. What we need to
celebrate is the individual. It's have
you not noticed I certainly have that
every historical change you can think of
in fact any change you can think of
forget about human beings any change in
any system that you can think of is
always ultimately traceable to one unit
in the system undergoing a phase state
change of some sort. No group. There are
no group decisions. Those things come
later. The genius of creativity and of
initiation of activity always lies uh
with the individual. And it's very
interesting that this is what the
psychedelics address. They address us
uniquely as individuals. You can sit
next to somebody who drank from the same
bottle you did and be perfectly
confident that their experience has very
little congruency
uh with your own.
Well, so then if we if we um let the
scales of cultural values fall from our
eyes and try not to look at the world
through the eyes of science or democracy
or capitalism
or Christianity,
what
what is there beyond ideology?
What are the facts of the matter?
as I see it, uh, the most visible facts
on the on the surface of things, on the
surface of being, I see
the law of increasing complexity.
Things have gotten more complicated
through time.
I I have never met anyone who could
successfully argue against this. That
doesn't mean it's true, but it means
that it may be, as Vickenstein used to
say, true enough.
True enough that as you approach the
present moment in the only area of the
universe which we have accurate data
about, which is this planet, things have
things become more complicated.
Uh, a million years ago, there were no
human civilizations. A thousand years
ago, there were no machines to speak of.
A hundred years ago there was no
communication infrastructure to speak
of. 10 years ago there was no internet.
18 months ago there was no Java. Uh
things are complexifying, intensifying,
moving together. This is the universal
drama that is reaching culmination in
our lifetimes
because and I offer this don't believe
me for God's sake don't believe anybody
just take this stuff in and then measure
it against your own experience. The
second extracultural fact that I've been
able to discern,
the first being things get more
complicated as you approach the present
and the second being that process of
complexification is occurring faster and
faster. The early universe was very slow
moving. It took a long time for things
to cool down and life to begin its
agonizing
march out of the slime into animal form,
meeting extinction and catastrophe and
setback after setback, but always
picking itself up literally out of the
mud and moving forward. Well, as life
left the ocean, the pace of evolution
quickened. As life radiated across the
land, uh, the number of of fila
multiplied, the number of species
multiplied. Finally, a million years
ago, pick a number, a million and a half
years ago,
the higher primates begin to use tools.
Fire enters the picture. And just as an
aside, isn't it interesting how long
people used tools and fire before spoken
language enters the picture? I mean, we
possess tools
a million years old, human tools,
language 35,000 years old. When I was in
South Africa last year, I was in this
place that reminded me of like the four
corners area around Moab, Utah. It was
like nothing like I had expected South
Africa to be. And when I wasn't
teaching, I would wander the dry aoyos
and hunt for human tools. And there was
an archaeologist staying in the bar or
in the hotel there. And we would drink
in the evening in the bar. And I would
lay my day find out on the bar. And he
would sort it into piles. He'd say,
"Nothing in this pile is less than
165,000 years old. Everything in this
pile is from human tools we're talking
about."
Now I've lost my thread because I was so
thrilled with my sidebar. I think I can
get it back. Ah yeah, here it is. Here
it is. And they say ptheads can't
here it is. The the second obvious fact
which haunts the postcultural viewpoint
is this acceleration
of change. And I've sort of built my
career on this because I'm a rationalist
but I feel the emotional power of this
thing. We are in we are caught in a
basin of attraction to use a
mathematical term. In other words, we
are under the influence of something
which is pulling us into the future or
into novelty if you want to put it that
way at a faster and faster rate. So
problems which are presented in the
following terms. If we don't do
something in 500 years we will run out
of this that or the other. or if we
don't do something in a thousand years
this or that will happen. These are
meaningless
statistics because the uh acceleration
into novelty is rewriting the rules now
every 18 months. Uh we we are descending
now into a well of novelty such that
more change is now occurring in a single
human lifetime than incurred in the
previous 10,000 years of human history.
We are approaching at a faster and
faster rate something unthinkable.
Something which is sculpting us in its
image. Something which shamans have
always
known was there. Though they may not
have used the metaphor of ahead of us in
time. That's a western download of where
it is because you could just as well say
it's in heaven or behind us in time or
everywhere or nowhere. The point is
we're about to arrive in its presence
and uh it is shaping us to prepare us
for the arrival. It is making us more
and more in its image. This is not a new
process. This began a long long time ago
but it's now reaching its culmination.
And I said a few minutes ago, the
internet is light at the end of the
tunnel. The internet is the beginning of
a nervous system that is knitting not
only all human beings but all life
together, all information together
because you know there already is an
internet. It's called the integrated
ecosystem of planet 3. It runs on
pherommones. It runs on weather systems,
ocean tides, touric currents moving in
the earth, uh thousands of methods.
It that way because our cultural
tradition is one of reductionism, tear
things apart, break them into their
subordinate units, break those into
still smaller units. Well, when you have
a theory of reality like that, what you
end up with is all the pieces spread out
and no car and nowhere to go. Uh,
but nature has always operated as an
integrated system of communication and
the internet is in a sense nothing more
than a human aping of a natural system
already in place. If we could do it
through pherommones, light, mycelium,
and electromagnetic pulses through the
earth, we wouldn't be stringing copper
and cable and fiber optic. Those things
are simply um historical artifacts of
the moment. What lies ahead on the
internet? What lies ahead I think for us
and this is the last point I really want
to make
and then we can talk about all this is
you know I have been a true resistor of
the alien penetration of human
civilization because I just saw no
evidence for it. But the the chant that
they are coming has now grown so loud
that I feel like one sort of has to ask
oneself, well short of just 100%
skepticism, what the hell is going on
with this alien pipe? And I think that
the problem is one of modeling and
intelligence. There is an alien. We are
in the cultural process of meeting this
alien. But they do not come in thousand
ton burillium ships from Zanbu Ganubi to
trade high technology for human fetal
tissue. I mean that if you that's an
intelligence test, folks. Uh that's not
how it works. uh our own hysteria
makes it very difficult for us to deal
with the presence of the alien and the
alien knows that that's why it has
disguised itself as a psychedelic
experience I think uh
where you know how in all those 50s be
science fiction movies the there was
always this theme of the landing area
and I saw But in Mars attacks too, there
must be a landing zone. Somehow we must
let them know that we welcome them by
building a landing area. And the Nazka
plane has been claimed and on and on and
on. I think that the alien is a creature
of pure information.
It's purely information. It's non-local.
It comes out of the bell non-locality
part of the universe that exists
distributed through hyperspace. The
alien is real but it is only made of
information and therefore the only
dimension in which it can be encountered
is a dimension of pure information.
Fortunately,
we are building a dimension of pure
information.
Providentially, we have named it the
net.
The net is a net for catching the alien
mind.
How will it come? Will it descend upon
our websites in a flash of light? I
don't think so. How it will come is
hacked through human fingers.
The alien is real but it is within us.
It can only communicate information and
that information has to be made real in
this world by human coders.
So if we were to set out light-heartedly
to build a virtual reality as alien as
we could make it, I maintain that 3/4 of
the way our hair would be standing on
end because we would realize we are not
inventing this. We are discovering it.
You know Michangelo said uh the form is
in the block of marble. What I do is I
take away the part that is unnecessary
and reveal the human torso within the
block of marble. In the same way, the
alien is already within us, but we must
model it. We must call it forth into a
dimension of potential dialogue. And I
think that ultimately this is what high
techch society can bring to the shamanic
equation. Uh shamans have been dealing
with spirits, entities, powers for more
than a 100,000 years. But it has always
been on a onetoone basis. one human
being at a time went up Mount Si to talk
to the fire on the mountain. But with
virtual reality, we have a technology
that allows us to show each other our
dreams
and yes, our hallucinations.
And as we begin to show each other the
contents of our own heads, and as we
begin to explore the alien niagraas of
beauty that pour through your
consciousness under the influence of
some of these substances, we are going
to discover that we are not what we
thought we were. That the monkey flesh
is penetrated by something,
dare I say it, divine.
or at least alien, transplanetary, and
beyond the power of human comprehension.
I don't know if we're talking about God
Almighty here. I don't know if we're
talking about the God who hung the stars
like lamps in heaven, as Milton says.
That seems a tall order. Maybe what
we're talking about is the god of
biology.
Uh something has happened to this
planet. It has become infected with an
informationational
call it virus, call it force, call it
being that is using matter and yes using
our flesh and our thoughts to bootstrap
itself to higher and higher levels. And
now the prosthesis of machinery and the
possibility of an artificial
intelligence raises the real option of
producing
of actually
midwifing the birth of an entirely new
not species but order of biological and
intelligence
in existence. The human machine symbiot
is upon us. I mean, it's been with us
for a while since the first wheel was
carved, since the first stick was
sharpened. But that was all very simple
stuff. Now, it's clear that we are in
partnership with an other mind which
comes to us through our machineries and
through the biosphere. Wherever we press
beyond the thin curtain of rationalist
culture, we discover the incredibly
rich, erotic, scary, promising presence
of this intelligent other which beckons
us out of history and says, you know,
the galaxy lies waiting. A galaxy of
galaxies
lie waiting. Lose the encumbrances of
three-dimensional space. Return with the
word to its higher and hidden source.
And at that point, you will discover the
alchemical
uh uh uh paraclete
will be given unto you. the alchemical
dispensation
will be given. And as James Joyce said,
man will be durable.
What did he mean? He he meant that we
will lose the limitations of physical
and three-dimensional space. That we are
destined to become mental creatures.
People say, "Well, isn't this a terrible
thing? What about this, that, and the
other? All the things you're worrying
about, we turned our back on 25,000
years ago. We have been marching through
this virtual reality of our own creation
for the entire duration of what is
called human history.
Now, uh
is there a political implication to all
of this? I think the political
implication is a a personal one. We all
must try to understand what is
happening. We need to try to understand
what is happening. And in my humble
opinion, ideology is only going to get
in your way. Nobody understands what is
happening. Not Buddhists, not
Christians, not government scientists,
not you know, no one understands
what is happening. So forget ideologies.
They betray, they limit, they lead
astray. Just deal with the raw data and
trust yourself.
Nobody is smarter than you are. And what
if they are? What good is their
understanding doing you? People who walk
around saying, "Well, I don't understand
quantum physics, but somewhere somebody
understands it." That's not a very
helpful attitude toward preserving the
insights of quantum physics. Inform
yourself. What does inform yourself
mean? It means a transcend and mistrust
ideology.
Go for direct experience.
What do you think when you face the
waterfall? What do you think when you
have sex? What do you think when you
take psilocybin? Everything else is
unconfirmable rumor, useless, probably
lies. So liberate yourself from the
illusion of culture. Take responsibility
for what you think and what you do. And
then the other political implication
toward community is
a lot of people are going to be very
anxious because change
raises anxiety in people. And people who
have limited opportunities to educate
themselves because of cultural
culturally inflicted abuse are scared
because they can sense that everything
familiar is giving way but they don't
want to embrace the unimaginable.
These people need to be reassured. They
need to be reassured by example and by
hearing optimistic
and reasonable rhetoric about the
future. Selling the future as an eight
alarm fire which is how the media does
it uh only makes a sane future
impossible.
So we need a responsible
approach to thinking about the future
and it means taking personal
responsibility for your drug taking for
the ideas the means that you push into
society and for the images that we share
among ourselves. You know, one of the
great truisms of the new age is that
images can heal. But I've never heard
anybody discuss the obvious contra
implication, which is images can make
you sick and you are constantly
bombarded with images which disempower,
divide, confuse and and and make crazy
basically. So I think the reason
psychedelics are such political dynamite
in any culture is because they dissolve
cultural assumptions. The scales fall
from people's eyes and they say, "Does
this make sense? Does my job make sense?
Does my relationship make sense to my
significant other, to my government, to
my children, to my environment? Do these
relationships make sense?" And of
course, the answer for most people in
high-tech society is no. We've been
compromised. We've been deluded. We've
been sold a massive pottage. The way out
then is personal responsibility, new
operating systems downloaded from
outside of culture, which means from the
deeper wisdom of the psychedelic plants.
And then a commitment to community and a
motto of to the future without fear.
Without fear.
Thank you very much.
Well, so much for a promise to breed
brief. Uh, you know, you just wind the
guy up and point him and, uh, off he
goes. The robot who preaches freedom,
questions, challenge, anything, anybody.
Yeah, you. Well, yeah, it's a tricky
question because what's being maximized
as things come together is novelty.
And so then we have to have a discussion
about what is novelty. To my mind, an
explosion
takes a complicated situation and
reduces or as mathematicians would say,
flattens its dimensionality.
uh uh an art gallery or a beautiful home
is far more interesting before an
explosion than after. So I don't see how
an uh some kind of catastrophe would
entirely fulfill the bill. On the other
hand, a partial catastrophe
of some sort because I believe primates
are at their best when cornered and we
don't we aren't cornered yet. I mean we
talk about how we're cornered. People
say this is the end of the world. This
ain't the end of the world. This is the
long garden party before the end of the
world with strolling musicians and
superbly catered food and women in
diiaous gowns and high toned
conversation. Wait till you see the end
of the world. It isn't about deciding to
come up to Austin to attend the whole
life expo. Let me tell you. So, uh, uh,
yes.
Yes. I should repeat questions.
Different part of the room. Back here,
white shirt. You, sir,
this guy. Yeah.
>> I lost your language.
Heat. Heat.
Heat. Heat.
Yes. You eloquently represent the
position that language was invented in
order to lie,
right? Well, that's what the second guy
who got a hold of it, I'm sure, probably
did with it. Uh
you're you're right that I have an
incredible enthusiasm for verbal speech,
but it's only because it's easy for me
to do. If if I didn't do this, I'd have
to find honest work. Um however,
I have I am aware or yeah, I'm very
aware of the limitations of language and
one of the things I've talked about a
lot is what I call visible language. You
use the example of telepathy that if we
were in telepathic communication, how
could I lie? Because you would perceive
my my intent. Uh the key to making
language more true is to make it more
visual.
Uh now that can't just take the form of
a bigger vocabulary and more colorful
metaphors like people will say when he
spoke he painted a picture or uh
listening to him was like watching a
movie. I think ordinary speech goes
through a series of stages from
articulate to eloquent to poetic to
demagogic.
And demagogic is where you want to be
careful uh because then you can turn,
you know, essentially Hitler turned
history on its head with speeches. He
just could really deliver a stem winder.
Uh I've been fascinated by the fact that
in the Amazon under the influence of
Iawasa
uh people sing songs
but they see the song they sing and when
you hear people talking about it
afterwards people will say after
listening to a song you know I loved the
part with the olive drab and the chrome
but I thought when he got into the
magenta and yellow stripe thing. It was
just too much. Well, this is a critique
of a song. And then when you take Iawasa
with these people, you discover to your
amazement that
is a blue ribbon a foot across that
descends from floor to ceiling and has a
yellow center and then
puts knobs in the ribbon. and you can
start singing and building, modeling,
animating in three dimensions with
sound. Well, I maintain that our
insistence technologically on pushing
our media toward ever more immediate
sensation. So that if we have
photography, it's black and white, we
demand color. If it's color, we demand
motion. If it's motion, we demand sound.
If it's sound and motion, we want 3D. We
it's that we trust our eyes and the
natural
uh domain of communication is visual for
human beings. We're like octopi in that
way. So really language needs to evolve
toward the visual. And that's why I'm
very keen for technically dense
prosthetic environments where every time
you say the word and a yellow
three-dimensional triangle appears in
the air. Every time you say or an orange
ball appears, a computer is listening to
what you're saying and giving a
geometric accompaniment to speech. I
think that there are forms of telepathy
that we can evolve through the use of
drugs and computerass assisted
technologies that will allow us to see
each other's dreams. In spite of your
correct assessment that I'm keen for the
spoken word, I spent all summer learning
modeling and three-dimensional animation
programs from my son
because I want to animate. I want to
model. I see things on my trips that I
have never been able to English, but
that if I were a fully competent modeler
and animator, I would just say, "Check
it out." And I'm going to do that. And
and I urge you to do that. I mean, it's
a funny thing to be told, you want to
spiritually advance, study
3D animation, but these are the
frontiers of communication. We have an
obligation to make our language more
immediate. It is the most godlike thing
we do. If you're looking for the
thumbrint of Almighty God on the
biological organization of this planet,
it is human language. It is a miracle. I
don't give a hoot what the dolphins and
the honeybees are out there in the woods
doing. It ain't like Milton. It ain't
even like Bob Dylan. Uh it ain't even as
good as this. I'm willing to say. Uh,
no. Human human communication is what we
are and it will lead us to be a
symbiotic species if we if we put the
pedal to the metal. that for people like
yourselves who I assume to be no matter
how you finagled your way in here this
afternoon part of the upper 3% of the
ruling elite on this planet there is a
real obligation to use privilege to uh
communicate and to make art I think this
is what if the good life has any purpose
other than to drink beer and watch TV
it's to produce art this is how you make
a payback into the community. And art is
ambiguous. Your art may say things to
people other than yourself that it would
never say to you. But that's how we make
the community richer. That's how we
enlarge the dimensions of the human soul
by by making art.
Yeah.
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Stand up and yell.
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[Music]
Louder.
You said, "Do you take psilocybin and
see self transforming machine else?" No.
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Yeah.
The question is, when you encounter the
self-t transforming machine elves in
hyperspace,
do you think that's a reflection of
ourselves or do you think it's an alien
or I mean I'm paraphrasing, but it's
something like that.
It's it's tricky because we are not what
we think we are. Uh
I I I maybe I didn't spend enough time
on this alien thing. Uh I referred to
non-local domains of information. This
has to do with this idea in quantum
physics that there is uh something
called bell non-locality
that all particles that were ever
associated
remain associated in some mysterious way
no matter how far apart in time and
space they have drifted. Well, according
to the big bang, all particles were once
closely associated. at the at the moment
of the big bang everything was in a
space less than the diameter of the
proton or some piddling distance like
that. Uh well, so then this was an idea
that was just thought so outlandish that
there could be this instantaneous
dimension of connectivity that it was
dismissed from quantum physics in favor
of an acceptance of a somewhat less
outlandish but equally challenging
notion which was the Heisenberg
uncertainty principle and that's how it
was left for about 40 years and but
there were thought experiments that
people talked about that could test for
this bell non-locality. Well, eventually
these apparatus were actually built and
these experiments were performed. And
what do you know, Joe? Bell non-locality
can be demonstrated the same way any
other physical phenomenon can be
demonstrated given a sufficiently
prepared laboratory situation. It's
real. It's not woo woo. It's actually
scientifically true at the fundamental
core of physics that all space and all
time is in some form of simultaneous
connection. Now, it gets a little dicey
if you ask questions like, can we use
this to get and send information? And I
don't want to go into that because I
think I already have the answer. No
matter how good the arguments against
it, I believe this is what the human
imagination is.
that you have two eyes to show you local
space and then you have an organ called
the mind which doesn't protrude anywhere
on the surface of your body except
occasionally in some cases it will lodge
on a surrogate but generally the mind is
invisible
uh but it gives you non-local data
that's what the imagination is that's
non-local data everything in the
Imagination is real somewhere somewhere
so far away in space and time that it
makes absolutely no sense to give it
another thought ever again. Don't ever
think that thought again. But know that
everything in the imagination is real.
So it's ridiculous to speak of my
imagination or the human imagining.
There is just the imagination. But see,
if all information is there, 99.999%
of that information is not intended for
human beings and makes no sense
whatsoever to us. It's basically static.
It's either above or below our cognitive
power to organize and so it is
meaningless. But 0.00001% 01%
of this non-local data is enough like
local data that we can make metaphoric
bridges to it and say well it was like
this and it was sort of like this and it
was a kind of this and it reminded me of
something else and that's the stuff of
the imagination and to the degree that
you can accept alien data without
freaking out. You can go deeper into the
imagination. I have a friend who says of
psilocybin mushrooms, every time I take
it, my goal is to stand more. And he
doesn't mean stand more in terms of
dosage. He means stand more in terms of
content because it can always raise the
bar higher than you can jump. I mean,
I've had dialogues with it where after
hours of dancing mice and personal
revelations and kind of a sense of
familiarity, I've said to it, "Well, but
what are you really? Show me what you
are for yourself." Well, my god. The
temperature in the room begins to fall
towards zero. Black draperies rise.
There's an organ tone that shakes the
earth. And after about 30 seconds, I
say, "Hey, enough of what you are for
yourself. Let's go back to the dancing
mice." And uh the little candies rolling
in the dark and uh you know, it it knows
that you have a limited capacity to
absorb its alieness. That's why we have
what's called human history. Human
history is the process of spending more.
And it's now we've sort of come to the
short and curly part of the process
where they're just around the corner. I
mean, all you have to do is smoke a
doobie, look out at the evening sky,
have a dream, talk to a friend, and the
alien is very very it its trailing aura
or its leading aura, I guess. It's its
leading aura has now intersected uh
human psychology. But cheerful stories
of space brothers and scary silly
stories of featal trading high
technology freaks in lead with the
government. Hey, it's so much bigger
than that. It's so big that it has
disguised itself as an alien invasion to
keep from really alarming us with what
it really is.
How are we doing here? Couple more
questions. Uh
>> if you could come to the microphone so
the tape recorders
>> a lady. Yes. Would you like to come up
and uh we'll get you on tape.
I was just wondering what uh you thought
about the possibility of um
as we become more aware of what we're
doing to the environment and the
responsibility of those industrialized
nations that are consuming more than
their share that uh when we if we could
get on an equal playing field and those
uh underdeveloped countries that have a
great deal of the resources that they're
using up to basically pay their national
debts. Uh if they could receive
technology so that they can be on an
equal playing field on the internet etc.
in exchange for our consumption
that uh it might be an interesting uh
evolution in terms of
>> well I I think it's happening in other
words uh some people have objected that
the internet and computers are an
elitist technology in the hands of a
bunch of white folks. uh to some degree
that's true. But on the other hand, if
the automobile had followed the same
curve of cost benefit that the computer
has followed in its development, then
the average automobile today would cost
uh a buck and a half and it would go a
100,000 miles on 10 cents worth of gas.
That's the kind of bang for your buck
you're getting from the modern PC
compared to where it was 35 years ago.
No technology in history has had its
costs fall so quickly. And there is no
reason to think that those costs will
level off. If a good PC today is $1,400,
there's no reason why in 5 years it
shouldn't be $140. And there's no reason
why in 10 years it shouldn't be $14 and
be worn on your thumbnail. This can all
uh be done. All all these prices are
artificially inflated. The other thing
about the internet is it is going
wireless.
Uh and as it goes wireless, it goes
totally global. If I can just brag for a
minute and make an example of myself. I
have a wireless connection to the
internet. At first, I got a wireless
connection because I couldn't get any
other kind cuz I lived way up on a
volcano. But now, my wireless connection
is 1 megabyte.
That's 45 times faster than 288. The
poor people down on copper, they can't
do better than 56 because the
infrastructure already exists and
therefore limits the bandwidth by going
outside the infrastructure. This sounds
like a reprise of my talk. By going
outside the infrastructure and building
a loan from ground up, I suddenly find
myself looking down the gun barrel of a
T1 connection. And it is heaven itself,
let me tell you. And the people who sold
it to me, and there must be dozens of
other companies, are bent on conquering
the world, meaning putting everybody who
wants to be online for pennies in the
next five to six years. And you know if
you live in Manhattan or even Austin,
what is the internet? It's another
diversion. It's another piece of
entertainment. It But what is it like in
Somalia, in seells, in Bangalore? What
kind of impact does it have there? It it
it is you talk about a culture
dissolving effect based on psychedelics.
How about a culture dissolving effect
based on access uh to the internet? And
people say, "Well, Western values will
swamp all others." Uh, certainly to some
degree that is true, but did that just
begin yesterday?
Isn't that what the bloody business has
been about for 500 miserable years ever
since the barbarian Cortez arrived in
Mexico? I think so. Well, don't get me
off on that.
Uh, uh, one last question. Who's just
burning?
Anybody burning? There's somebody
burning.
So, where do you think we're going to be
on December 22nd, 2012?
All together.
All together.
It's a nice answer.
Here's another one.
Why have only one answer?
Uh, it's too early to tell. In other
words, asking that question in 1997 is
like asking a man looking east at 1:00
a.m. what he thinks the sunrise will be
like. It's just too early. The sun lies
over the event horizon of the planet. In
other words, we can't see around the
corner yet. In terms of our cultural
analogous cultural development, right
now we've reached approximately the year
1,000 AD. And between now and 2012
at an incredibly accelerated rate, we
have to do a number of things. Discover
the new world, invent the calculus, have
the Renaissance, then have the
Reformation, then have the industrial
reformation, then have the 20th century.
All that has to be squeezed into the
next 14 years. Uh the real outlines of
what is tearing toward us will probably
be uh the province of squirrels and
visionaries like myself until around
2004 and five. And by that time
it will be clear to everyone what is on
the end of every fork as William
Burroughs once said. In other words, it
it It will be clear that history has
been cancelled. It will be clear that
there is no human future except through
hyperspaceial breakthrough. We will all
be walking around on an internet that is
90% VRMLbased and hence
three-dimensional and interactive. And
uh nanotechnology will beginning be
beginning to deliver its goods to
society. new forms of propulsion system
are going to move the outer planets to
within a few weeks travel so forth and
so on. Uh so uh we cannot at this moment
know the true nature of the escaton
because at this moment if we knew the
true nature of the escaton it would
shatter our cultural assumptions and our
individual understanding completely. We
have a lot of heavy lifting to do.
There's a lot of self-education,
hard tripping, and heroic dosing that
needs to be done before we can meet the
escaton on a level playing field. Be
there or be square. Thank you.
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The speaker discusses several key themes: the nature of imagination as non-local data, the evolution of communication technologies and their connection to psychedelic culture, and the concept of novelty theory leading to a singularity. They propose that culture functions as an operating system that can be upgraded, with psychedelics and shamanism offering pathways to such upgrades. The speaker also touches upon the limitations of language and the move towards more visual and immediate forms of communication, including the internet as a tool for global connection and the potential for encountering an 'alien' intelligence through information networks and altered states of consciousness. Finally, they address the acceleration of change, the importance of individual experience over cultural dogma, and the need for a responsible approach to the future, encouraging personal responsibility and community building.
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