Joe Rogan Experience #2512 - Joey Diaz
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>> All right, brother. Hey, what's
happening? What's going on?
>> Same [ __ ] Great to be here.
>> Great to see you. How you feeling?
>> My knee like a tiptop [ __ ] my goo.
>> Your knee. I can't believe you could
walk so quickly after getting the knee
fixed again.
>> It was like 3 days, man.
>> That's nuts. But yesterday I [ __ ] it
up at Newark airport because I wanted to
walk,
>> you know, but it was like like I walk
every day at the gym and then I walk my
neighborhood for breakfast and after
dinner. But that's a loop,
>> you know. This was 10 loops yesterday.
So, thank God I had a baggie with
edibles with me on the plane. I ate the
edibles and I put I asked the [ __ ]
flight attendant. She give me some ice
and that's how I got it down. Then I You
rub it with that bortto [ __ ] That
liquid cocaine juice. It's
>> what?
>> Yeah, it's a cream that [laughter] that
became illegal. You buy it over the
counter.
>> What is that?
>> It's Vora something. Vor, don't quote
me, man.
>> But it's a good cream. It numbs your
eye. You have to rub it though twice a
day and
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. But it's [ __ ] feels fantastic.
>> I've never heard of it.
>> Yeah. Voltron. Voltrax.
>> Vol.
>> Don't listen to me, dog. Just [laughter]
Google. What's that? Is that it?
Voltran. See, I'm
>> Volter. Arthritis pain. And you just rub
it on your knee.
>> Yeah. A couple times a day. Anything
that hurts.
What is it?
>> It's like a [ __ ] gel with cocaine
that takes care of the [laughter]
[ __ ] situation for you.
[snorts]
>> Prescription strength over-the-counter
non-steroidal anti-inflammatory that
penetrates the skin to relieve joint
pain, inflammation, and stiffness.
Interesting. I never heard of it before.
Widely used for osteoarthritis and
muscle aches. Should not be used for
acute injuries like simple strains or
bruises.
Wonder why.
Why can't you use it for strains or
bruises?
Does it say why? That seems weird. Cuz
like that's what people use um like
ibuprofen and [ __ ] for. Wonder why you
can't use
>> like I couldn't use any of that [ __ ] I
could only use Tylenol, whatever the
[ __ ] that is. I couldn't take ibuprofen
after the surgery.
>> No.
>> Have you ever used DMSO?
>> I don't know what that is, Joe.
>> That's this [ __ ] right here.
>> You rub it on? Yeah, they uh that's
another horse tranquilizer. Another
horse medication.
>> Yeah, they they use it in veterinary
applications, but it's a it's really
good for pain. For pain and injury, take
that. Keep it.
>> Okay.
>> No, I have a bunch of them.
>> Thank you.
>> I buy I buy [ __ ] in bulk.
>> We were talking about [snorts] La Zato.
>> Yeah,
>> that was the early steroids which were
the 70s.
>> We don't know what the [ __ ] we were
getting in the 70s. Everything came from
Germany. I think
>> I think they were getting
>> the Roblin all that [ __ ] I think they
were getting human growth hormone from
cadaavvers. See if that's true. Jamie,
put that into our AI sponsored
Perplexity. Did they used to get human
growth hormone from cadaavvers? I think
they did. I think that's how they used
to get it.
>> What do you get human growth hormone
from now?
>> That's a good question. Um, I don't
know. I don't know how they do it. It's
synthetic. I know it's synthetic. So it
must be they isolate the molecule, they
figure out how to reproduce it and then
they make it somehow. I have no idea. Um
but the way they used to do it back then
cadaavver derived human growth hormone
was real used mid 1900s to 1985 and
turned out to be dangerous because it
sometimes trans transmitted pron
diseases like kruxfel jacob yuckub and
is no longer used and has been fully
replaced by synthetic recombinant HDH.
So, uh, Crutzfeld Yuckup disease, that's
mad cow disease. It's the same kind of
disease. And what it comes from is it's
the same thing that cannibals get. When
people eat human brain tissue, they they
get and and neurons and that kind of
[ __ ] You get this same disease. Ala was
one of the first US sports figures to
admit using anabolic steroids in the
last year of his life as he battled
against the brain tumor which eventually
caused his death. Alzador asserted that
his steroid use abuse, his steroid abuse
directly led to his fatal illness. He
recounted his steroid abuse in an
article Sports Illustrated. I started
taking anabolic steroids in 69 and never
stopped. Now I'm sick and I'm scared. I
was addicting mentally. It was addicting
mentally and mentally addicting. 90% of
athletes I know are on the stuff. We're
not born to be 300 lb or jump 30 feet. I
became very violent on the field. Off it
too. I did things only crazy people do.
Once in 1979 in Denver, a guy sideswiped
my car. I chased him up and down the
hills through the neighborhoods. I did
that a lot. I chased a guy, pulling out
of his car, beat the hell out of him.
But look at me now. I wobble when I
walk. And sometimes I have to hold on to
somebody. You have to give me time to
answer questions because I have trouble
remembering things.
>> He died at 43.
>> 43 from cancer.
>> That's how old I am.
>> Wow.
>> He didn't look good at the end. Like he
wore the bandanas. Al Ela was Jewish.
>> Says he was inducted into the Jewish
Hall of Fame.
>> What did it say? Bo, go back to that
what I was just reading.
>> International Jewish
>> Jewish Sports Hall of Fame. I didn't
even know that existed.
>> Okay. Uh, so
I don't know if that was that stuff that
growth hormone did that, but
>> Well, listen, he's saying he can't walk
at the end. and they can't remember.
That's the
>> the knocks to the head and mixed with
whatever was going on.
>> Yeah. I mean, there's
>> with everything else, it becomes
something else. You know,
>> I lied.
>> A midst massive. That's one of those
lies that like everybody, you know, it's
like when bodybuilders say they're
natural. Like, shut the [ __ ] up, [ __ ]
Nobody's that big. Nobody's that big
without help. There's a bunch of goofy
guys out there that still try to claim
natural. Like, come on, son.
>> How many [ __ ] steaks do you eat a
day? like the Barbarian Brothers. 36
eggs.
>> There's some guys that have freak
genetics. They have very unusual
genetics and they get real big
naturally, but that's rare. That's super
super rare.
>> As a matter of fact, I got [snorts]
picked up by an Ubie yesterday. Guess
who was the driver?
>> Who?
>> Yoel Romero's nephew.
>> No way.
>> And he's a judo champion.
>> No way.
>> We talked in Spanish for about 15 20
minutes
>> in Jersey or here.
>> Right here. He lives cuz all these Uber
drivers are Cuban.
>> Really?
>> All of them in Austin.
>> They're all getting replaced by robots.
>> [ __ ] that. The Cubans. I saw a Cuban
yell at the robot a couple last time I
was here. [laughter] He got out of the
car yelling at the car and he realized
and he got back in the car. My bad.
>> That's hilarious.
>> The guy cut him off.
>> They cut you off all the time. It's
[ __ ] way up.
>> No, I stay away from those.
>> They get right in front of you. They're
They're ridiculous.
>> I don't trust those cars at all. And I
don't see how people sit I don't It's
not for me, brother.
>> Did you hear about that lady? She got
into one and a homeless guy was in the
back.
>> No.
>> Yeah. Some guy used the Whimo. He got
his luggage out, left the hatch open.
probably figured the the thing closed
itself. It didn't. Homeless guy hopped
in, shut the door. Lady gets the way mo.
There's a homeless guy in the back. He
starts yelling at her for paying robots.
Why you paying robots? [laughter]
I got to tell you about my homeless
situation this week, Joe.
>> Oh, no.
>> So, my daughter played at Egg Harbor
this weekend. It's like 25 minutes
outside of Atlantic City, which is an
hour and a half from my house. So, we
went down for Saturday's tournament.
They won. Now, we got two more games on
Sunday. So, we got a hotel. I didn't
want to get a hotel at Oceans. I'm going
to be at Oceans in August, but I didn't
want to get go there because all the
other parents were in [ __ ] uh Harris.
So, I said, "Fuck it. I don't want to be
that guy. Oh, I'll stay at Harris with
you." So, the game ended and my wife had
to drive the kids somewhere and I go,
"You know what?" Because every time,
every weekend when I go on those little
trips, I go to a weed store. Like last
week, I went into one in Trenton. Dog,
this was a block from the state capital.
You could see the dome. The black guy
called me back and he goes, "No, no, no.
I got a secret place in the back." He
had mushrooms. Mushroom chocolate.
>> Don't say this. You're gonna get in
trouble,
>> dog. There's 18 stores in [ __ ] uh you
know, you got to figure it out. I'm not
ratting nobody out. They know what's
going on. The cops.
>> They got a back I mean that packaged
mushrooms all different flavors. Blue
Hawaii whole thing.
>> This week I go to Atlantic City. I go to
this one Everel whatever. It's supposed
to be the big one.
>> The big one.
>> The big weed store in Atlantic City. And
it's right by the casino. So, as I pull
up, I park my car in front. As I walk
out, there's four yolked brothers.
Yolked with gold chains on in one of
those [ __ ] suburban millionaire cars.
What do you call the big truck
>> Escalades?
>> No, the other one. The the one that
looks like they're attacking your town.
Not the
>> Oh, AMG G Wagons.
>> I don't [ __ ] know. Anyway, they're in
there. They're in there bumping [ __ ] and
they see me and they go, "Yo, we know
you." And I go, "Yeah, what up, brother?
Hold on. I'll catch you on the way out."
I thought by the time I got out they
would leave.
>> Right.
>> So I went in, I come out and they're all
outside their cars. All four brothers.
Yo, big gold chains like, "Yo, you're
the [ __ ] that goes on Rogan."
No, that's the [ __ ] from the
longest yard. We looked you up. So
they're talking to me, talking to me.
We're rocking and rolling. Rogan
[snorts] the UFC. Yo, what do you think
about that? And I'm loving it. But in
the middle of all this, this black
little homeless crackhead walks his way
over and I could hear him ask the other
guy, "Who's this white motherfucker?"
And the black guy goes, "That's the dude
from The Longest Yard. You know the
football movie." The black guy comes
over and I see him. Walk right over. He
goes, "Hey, Mr. Football Man, why don't
you break out a dollar for me?" He just
bummed me out a dollar. I had to give
him 10. I was so [ __ ] embarrassed in
front of you break out a dollar for me.
>> Why don't you break out a dollar for me,
Mr. Football Star? I gave him a 10. This
[ __ ] ran. He walked up with a
limp, but he ran away.
>> Like, he was going right for crack. I'm
like, these [ __ ] they got a
game for everything.
>> I love it. I love all that [ __ ] Joe.
>> It's fun to be around wacky people every
now and then.
>> Just people living on the edge.
>> But that Atlantic City outside those
casinos, bro, that shit's real.
>> We saw a drug transaction right on the
street when we were down there last.
>> Bro, I'm surprised you didn't see a
hooker get mugged or something like
that. [laughter]
They are not [ __ ] around. I took a
ride Saturday night about 10. Just take
a little ride.
>> Sketchy,
>> bro. You make a ride in some of those
corners, you ain't coming back.
>> And I thought by now they'd at least
build up the outside of AC.
>> No, no, no, no, no, no. It's barely
making money. You know, a AC doesn't do
well. Not like Vegas does. You know what
I mean? Like AC's got some nice spots.
You can go there and have a good time,
but it's not like it's going to grow.
>> You go to Borgat with the Italians and
[ __ ]
>> The outside's too sketch. the Borgata.
All the Italians go down with their
white shoes on the week. Hey, it's got
old. What up? You know,
>> but no, they I don't like the Borgata
that much. I like the I like the couple
hotels down there.
>> There's some nice places.
>> Yeah, we stayed in the BA when it first
opened. You and I, you had a gig there.
You had a gig there.
>> That's right. The thing is, it's not
going to grow like Vegas is. You know,
Vegas is crazy. See, when Vegas had a
head start. The thing like if they tried
to make Vegas now, oo, tough cell. Tough
sell. Too many places to go. You can
gamble everywhere. You can gamble on
your phone now. But when Vegas was
first, there was no casinos in the
country, dog. It was just Vegas. And I
wonder if they made some sort of a deal.
Well, let them blow off atomic bombs.
They blow off these atomic bombs and
then we'll, you know, we'll put the
casinos in.
>> What's the difference? But then we
looked it up and it turned out they made
Vegas before the atomic bomb.
So I'm like, well, what? I guess it was
just gangsters. They just bribed people
or convinced people. There was nothing
going on there.
>> It was a pit stop. They opened up Vegas
for a pit stop for American soldiers to
stop on the way or something like that.
>> Well, was it in the 30s, right? Was it
the 30s, Jamie?
>> Then the guy that owned the comedy store
>> when Vegas was created.
>> Yeah. And the guy that owned the comedy
store, he was in charge of Vegas and he
robbed and they shot him.
>> Same guy as the comedy store.
>> Same guy as the comedy store. So
>> he was in charge.
>> He's [ __ ] genius. That [ __ ] that
[ __ ] was a genius. Well, he got
shot because he stole at the end the
expenses and
>> Oh, is that what it was?
>> The casinos, you know, he gave in those
days they borrowed money from the unions
in Chicago.
>> And then you borrowed that and you
worked off those uh teamster loans,
>> those Jimmy Hoffer loans.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> So, you had to build on those. Well, the
expenses never stopped,
>> right?
>> And they were like, "What the [ __ ] is
going on?" And he was hanging out with
Jane Seymour or something, going back
and forth like a millionaire, like a
movie star, and they ain't lagging. They
shot him.
>> That's why they shot him,
>> I think. So, they shot him in his house
in his eyeball or something.
>> Yeah. In his eyeball.
>> Something like that. I remember that.
So,
>> yeah, there's a picture of his dead body
allegedly online
>> in LA, right? They shot him in LA.
>> So, that was all because of the casinos.
Huh.
>> But then they made it, you know, it's
like when we first went to Denver. The
money was too good.
>> I don't give a [ __ ] if if it's Jesus and
his three disciples, they're going to
take that envelope. It's too good.
>> Well, you know what it was going on in
the beginning? They weren't allowed to
use credit cards, so everything had to
be cash.
>> Cash. Yeah. And it was crazy. So these
guys were leaving the [ __ ] and they
bring like six special forces guys with
them. They'd have [ __ ] green berets
and Navy Seals and [ __ ] like armed to
the tits because they're transferring
millions of dollars in cash.
>> So the whole thing was nuts, man. It was
nuts. I I read this story about the
dilemma like these people are making all
this money and the crazy thing is the
state was making all that money too
because the taxes on the legal weed.
Look this up, please.
>> It's amazing.
>> I think it was like 39%.
>> It's [ __ ] crazy.
>> And everybody was like, "Sure."
>> Like, you would never accept 39% on
alcohol. You never accept 39% on ground
beef.
>> No.
>> But 39% on weed. You're like, "I'll take
it."
>> During the pandemic in LA, you had to
buy an extra tax to go open. That's why
they called them uh what do they called
those businesses that had to be open?
>> Dispensaries.
>> No, no, no. They're businesses that they
had a purpose to be open during the
pandemic.
>> Oh, right. Essential.
>> Essentials. Yeah. They made that
essential, but they they charge an extra
t 10% tax. You know,
>> they're making so much money off weed in
California.
>> But now look at all the weed stores.
They're starting to close,
>> are they?
>> And in Jersey, they created a dilemma
because the state convinced them that
they had a build and all this [ __ ] So
all these places started, you know, you
you're opening up a shop minus 3 mil.
Listen, it's a lot of $20 bags to get
the three three mil.
>> A lot. And not only that, there's a lot
of competition. How many weed stores are
in LA? It's bananas,
>> bro. In Englishtown, New Jersey. There's
four of them. And here's where it gets
better. They're all on the same block.
>> Wow. Do you Did you ever go to that
place in Englewood with me back when it
was uh Only Medical? The Englewood?
>> We used to get the lollipops. Yeah.
>> Yes. Yeah. I went there one time with
you.
>> You know, the guy that ran that got
shot.
>> That dude that we used to deal with, he
got shot in that store.
>> They killed him.
>> No, I think he lived. Uh I'm not sure
though. Look that up. He might have
died.
>> Yeah. It's the first place you had the
lollipops from on Fear Factor.
>> Yes.
>> It was from that guy, right?
>> Yeah. Englewood Wellness Center. That
was in the '9s. That was in the days
where it was uh legal uh if you had a
medical reason. And any medical reason
would do. Oh, my feet hurt. Get in
there. [laughter]
>> Sign them up.
>> But anybody who does martial arts uh has
the pain excuse because everybody's in
pain and it does help you with pain.
There's a like if you could take
aspirin, THC, like gummies with CBD are
phenomenal for aches and pains, man.
>> You remember Dave Foley?
>> Yeah.
>> Dave Foley's hand, Of course you do.
Dave Foley's hand was all [ __ ] up from
arthritis. He started taking CBD and now
his hand is full function again.
>> CBD is amazing.
>> CBD's They just blew it up out of
content a couple years ago.
>> Well, who knows who's making it and what
the quality, right? But no,
>> that's the things when when things are
gray, you get a bunch of douchebags
making stuff. You know, I used to have a
bit about that about the gummy bears.
Like they're not making these gummy
bears in the same labs where they're
making Tylenol. They're very
inconsistent. You get one of them, you
swear it's a thousand milligrams and the
other one feels like it's like a 100.
They barely make sense. Back in the day,
back in, you know, when the it was the
wild west,
>> I got 500 milligrams in my pocket. They
feel [laughter] like 500 milligrams
whether you take
>> Well, now I don't think you could do
that anymore. I'm talking about like way
back in the day it was different because
way back in the day there was like it
was the wild west.
>> First of all, way back in the day they
didn't put warnings on this [ __ ] No.
>> You didn't know how many milligrams were
in this stuff. And I remember eating a
brownie one time and flying up to
Pittsburgh and the red eye and my leg
wouldn't stop tapping. Like [laughter]
it wouldn't stop [ __ ] tapping.
>> I remember one time we were on a plane.
You had a panic attack and then you
waited like an hour later and then
popped two more. [laughter]
>> [ __ ] yeah. I was like, "How are you
doing that?" You're like, "Joe Rogan, I
almost got off the plane. I couldn't
take it. I couldn't breathe. My [ __ ]
heart was closing. It was like my chest
was closing in on me. The walls were
closing in. I thought the plane was
going to crash. I was freaking out. I
almost had turn the [ __ ] plane
around.
>> But I'm back, baby. Two more."
>> You have no idea what I put myself
through over the years.
>> Why do you do that?
>> Because I just want to take a chance.
Columbus did. I mean, [laughter]
I'm sitting at home. It's 2:00 in the
afternoon. You're bored as [ __ ] be like
the devil.
>> Let's see what happens. And the only
thing that would hold me back is if I
had a spot that night.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Then I would tame it and be like a
couple hundred milligrams. But
>> you don't want to go up on stage with
too much edible.
>> Yes, you do.
>> Sometimes. Yes, you do. Sometimes you
need to.
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it's important to go off into the woods,
right? Yeah. Sometimes you should stay
on the trail.
>> Yeah. But listen,
>> you filming a special, stay on the
trail.
>> Last week I went to do a spot. I
figured, let me wait five weeks. I
haven't been on stage since April 18th.
Let me go do a spot. I'm nervous. I get
down there and there's 50 people.
Perfect. Break my cherry. Do it.
I got into such a groove. I ended up
doing an hour. That was because the
edible I took before I went on stage. No
material. I told you that I got nothing.
>> Right.
>> That's it. I'm starting over from
scratch.
>> Got nothing. I talked about going to the
hospital and then it just became
something else. And at the end, I was up
there an hour.
>> Wow. Wow. My leg was starting to [ __ ]
throb. But
>> did you film it or record or anything?
>> No, I just I didn't know it was going to
be gold. I just
>> Right. Right.
>> But that's why THC somebody said THC is
like a a band substance for comics
because it make if you really let it
absorb you and I'm not telling you to
smoke pop, but that I had an audition.
Whenever I have an audition, I read it.
I put it away. I get stoned. And then I
go back and I look at it again. Complete
different sheet. Now I can pick out
things. Now I could point.
>> Then I leave it again. I get high and I
come back like an hour later. And that's
what I think THC makes me just relax.
Look, look, I live in anxiety naturally.
Naturally. I beat myself up. This
morning it's 8:30. I'm drinking coffee
outside the four seasons. I'm like, why
am I thought I had somewhere to go,
>> dude?
>> I got nowhere to go.
>> You just gave yourself an anxiety for no
reason.
>> Yeah, cuz I always think I got somewhere
to [ __ ] go at 10:00 in the morning.
That's why when my daughter gets on that
bus to school at 7:15, I start blasting
[laughter]
>> because then I know I ain't got nowhere
to go. Like, you know, you make a list
every day and you go, "This is what I'm
going to do today."
>> And then you [ __ ] uh, you know,
>> wake up and you look at that list after
you smoke and you're like,
>> "That's a long drive up to New York City
today. I ain't doing that podcast." You
know, [laughter]
that's a [ __ ] long drive up into that
[ __ ]
>> Yeah. The driving in New York is not a
joke. That's an endeavor.
>> Yeah. No,
>> you got you got to take a day. Like
that's your day. Your day is driving in
and driving out. You're not going to the
gym. You're not doing all that other
stuff like No, I'm saying if you if got
to drive into New Jersey, that's your
day. It's not like, "Oh, I'll go there.
That's at noon. I'll hit the gym at
2:30." Uh-uh. No, you won't. You'll be
in traffic for 3 hours.
>> For 3 hours.
>> I always go to do that [ __ ] early and
get it over with. And uh like on days
that I have to go to the city up north,
I'll just take that as a day off. Like
I'll work that day before so I could go
up there comfortably and not sweat it.
>> Yeah.
>> But it's got some days I get up and I'm
like, I'm not going up there. I got to
work out today.
>> Listen, this is one of the big things
that Texas has or Austin has in
particular over the East Coast is the
[ __ ] traffic. The traffic here is a
joke. They talk about traffic. It's
adorable. You might be 10 extra minutes.
>> Whoopde-doo. It's adorable. Occasionally
a car accident happens and there's a
bunch of people stopped. That [ __ ]
happens everywhere in the world. But for
the most part, the East Coast is so
thick with people. You don't realize it
until you have to make that trip to New
Jersey and back and forth. You know,
when we do uh the UFC's, if we go into
New Jersey uh to the UFC and then with
the weigh-ins, then we have to go back
to New York to play pool
>> at 6:00. That's pool. Oh my god, it's
crazy. Go to New York to eat and to play
pool and it's [ __ ] it's a mad house.
>> Think about it. What it was like the
last two weeks. Jim Florentine said he
went into the city Saturday was 3 hours
because of the Nick [ __ ] They
weren't even playing.
>> They weren't even playing.
>> People were so upset that Trump was
going to go to the NBA because if he's
there then they have all these crazy
security protocols. It makes the traffic
even worse.
>> There was no parties. There was no
nothing. He should stick to the UFC.
They're going to boo him everywhere
else.
>> Oh, they booed him to I didn't watch the
whole game. I was out.
>> Some people cheered. I heard it was like
cheers and booze, but the problem is
>> if there's cheers and any booze there if
there's like 50/50 like that's that's
don't go to that spot. Go to the UFC.
People say he got booed at the UFC. I've
seen him at the UFC
six times or something like that. I
don't know how many times. Never get
booed.
>> They love him.
>> He's never gotten booed. They [ __ ]
cheer. The people that say they're
booing him, you're distorting reality.
It's not true. They cheer him like he he
walks in there to the American badass
song. Especially if Kid Rock is with him
and Dana White's behind him and then
sometimes Tucker Carlson was there too
back on when they were close. It was
like the conservative Avengers. It was
like this is ridiculous. They
>> He was the kiss of death last night. I
bet against the Knicks last night. Me
and Jamie, we were like, "Fuck that.
Getting two and a half.
>> Why they only giving two and a half?
They're up two games. What are you a
[ __ ]
>> Two and a half. They were given last
night. Everybody in their mother, even
[ __ ] your daughter bet the Knicks
last night giving two and a half.
>> Do you um bet sports all the time?
>> How often you bet [snorts]
>> this type of the year? I bet basketball
because it's real. There's defense.
>> Do you use uh do you use an app? Like
what do you do? Draftings. DraftKings.
You do it on DraftKings.
>> Everything is on DraftKings.
>> All right. You don't have a bookie?
>> No.
>> Yeah.
>> No. I enjoy because DraftKings has so
many fun. Like there's bookies out
there. Like they just keep busting these
mafia rings in Jersey and New York. 39
people. They had the big bust last year
with the basketball coaches that they
put the cards up and you could see
through the [ __ ] cards on the table.
It's a it's gambling has grown to a
[ __ ] nightmare. We're going to pay
for this in 5 years. But when I went to
college after orientation, you walked
out and there was credit card companies,
Discover, Mastercard, Visa, and they
give you a credit card for being a
student for 250 automatic right there.
And that now when you go to those
orientation days, DraftKings is there.
>> You know, the other ones, FanDuel's
there, and I'm not putting them down. I
love DraftKings, but you're coping these
kids. These kids don't have enough
problems with [ __ ] student loans
>> right
>> now. I'm going to put a [ __ ] thing.
More people are gambling more than ever.
>> Than ever than ever.
>> In Australia, too. My buddy McCann, you
know, James McCann. Yeah. He was talking
about how crazy it is in Australia.
>> Yeah. It's uh it's in What is those?
What's the odds on the Ilia Taporia
Justin Gatey fight at the White House?
>> To pick them, is it? No. No. Tapora has
to be a huge favorite. I guarantee
Tapora is two to one.
>> Four to one.
>> Four to one. Yeah. Oh my god.
>> Four to one's crazy. Two to one.
If you just think about what he's done
in his last three fights, he's had the
most legendary run in MMA championship
history. In his last three fights, he
knocked out three all-time greats.
Knocks out Alexander Vulcganowski,
knocks out Max Holloway, knocks out
Charles Olivivera. Three in a row. Like,
anybody who could do that, you go, I'm
not [ __ ] betting anything against
that guy. But Justin Gachi is a tough
character, son.
>> So if I bet 25 bucks on Gage, I win
>> 100
>> 100. 4 to one.
>> Four to one. Yeah. Um which is uh Look,
it's minus 426 for Toporia. They're like
4 to1 is not enough.
>> Caesar says 600.
>> Caesar says 600. Caesars is smart.
[laughter]
But the thing is, man, don't think that
Justin Gai can't win. Like anybody can
lose in an MMA fight. People get hit.
Like in Iliot Aoria, one of his early
fights, one of I think his first fight
in the UFC at lightweight, he took it on
short notice and he fought this dude um
Jai Herbert who's a really tall, really
good striker. And Jai Herbert caught him
with a head kick in the first round, a
switch kick to the dome that dropped
him. It was perfect, but he recovered
brilliant. He got a hold of him, took
him to the ground, recovered, and then
came back and devastating knockout in
the second round. Like, he [ __ ] puts
people into orbit, man. His power is
crazy. He's not a big guy either, man.
Justin's a much bigger guy than him, but
the way he knocks guys out, it's just
dead. He knocks them out dead. But so
does Gachi. People forget it. Gachi is a
[ __ ] Warhammer, dude. That guy loves
battles. He loves
>> saying this is not I don't think
>> it's a tough fight, man.
>> This is a tough [ __ ] fight. I could
both this and this is this Sunday,
right? Correct.
>> It's this Sunday. Gachi's bigger. So,
[ __ ] yeah. I'm going. So, Gachi's
bigger. Gatechi used to fight um at um
what was it called? The IFL. Was it
whatever the organization was before the
he came to the UFC? I think it was it
was before the PFL. It was like another
one. But what was it? What did he What
was the organiz You know, there's these
feeder organizations like the PFL. A lot
of really good fighters that wind up
becoming champions start out there.
>> Was that it?
>> World Series of Fighting. That's right.
That's what it was. And I mean, he was
[ __ ] people up with leg kicks. But it
was the way he was fighting would just
throw himself into chaos.
>> Like he he didn't fight tactically at
all back then.
>> No. like the you ever see the Michael
Johnson fight with him in the UFC.
>> It's his first fight in the UFC. It's
one of the craziest [ __ ] fights ever
because he just [ __ ] throws himself
at Michael Johnson and Michael Johnson
throws himself right back. I It was a
They got hurt. Both guys got cracked. It
was a crazy fight, but eventually Justin
got him. But it was the way he fought
you like good lord.
>> Yeah, he fights
>> like a pitbull. [clears throat] Like a
pitbull. Like no concern for his safety.
Just dive in. It was a [ __ ] crazy
fight. And look how Dustin is always
just trying to kill you. He's always
move. Look at that. Every shot he's
trying to [ __ ] kill you. He's always
moving forward trying to smash you. And
the thing is he relishes this kind of
combat so much that in the beginning he
lost some fights that he could have won
if he tempered it. If and then he did.
So, and then when he went on this like
legendary run, started beating
everybody. It's really because he
controlled the violence a little bit
more. He controlled the chaos, but it
was still like very technical violence.
It wasn't like he was brawling dumb. He
was just forcing himself into chaos so
much. He was throwing himself right into
the fire over and over and over again.
This is a dangerous [ __ ] guy. He's a
dangerous [ __ ] guy for anybody.
>> I mean, he had hit Kabib. He hurt him
with some calf kicks.
>> His He could do that, too. He leg kicks
you from inside the clinch. One of the
things that he does really well is from
like he could get you with like a collar
tie and he's leg kicking you. Look, he
gives him the finger and tells him to
get up. I mean, Michael Johnson's
getting battered. This is a tough fight
for him at this point. We're in round
two. Look at that knee to the body.
Just everything's trying to kill you.
It's not like uh this tactical
take a chance here, take a chance there.
No, everything's take a chance. It's
like from the very beginning of the
fight and this is how he fight. He
eventually took him out. But it was a
crazy fight.
>> He fights like I told you Haggler used
to fight. They weren't thinking about
brain damage,
>> right?
>> Haggler, all those dudes were not
thinking about that. We were talking
about that with with football before.
>> You know what I just watched the other
day? Mustafa Ham Show. Haggler versus
Mustafa Ham Show.
>> Did they battle?
>> Haggler took him out. But it was just
Haggler in his prime. He was beautiful
at that, bro. He was so [ __ ] so good.
He was so good. And he was so good at
switching stances, man. When no one was
doing that back then. Haggler would
fight southpaw. He would fight Orthodox.
He would [ __ ] you up. You didn't know
where it was coming from. And he could
fight just as good Southpaw as he could
Orthodox. It was amazing. It was an
amazing fight to watch. Like, god, that
guy was great. So disciplined.
>> Yeah. Some good fights this week. I'm
excited for the car. I thought it was
Saturday.
>> Yeah. Amy posted up that the serial gun
Alex Pereira fight is the closest fight
in the card is in terms of odds. It's
like even odds and that's a that's a
serial gun's a tall order. That's a tall
order for your first heavyweight fight
in the UFC.
>> Caesar says that as a pickum.
>> A pickum. Yeah, I would say it's a pick
them. I would say it's a pickham. Um
Sirill Gan is really good. And the thing
about Sirill Gan is the problems that
he's had in fights or when guys take him
down. when guys stand with him, he is
very tricky. He's very slick. He's very
technical and he's he's very light on
his feet for a big guy. Like he moves
really well. Like one of the best movers
in the heavyweight division for sure.
He's he's like he dances on his feet. He
also does a weird thing off his front
leg. He throws a front kick when he's
standing sideways like in a bladed
stance like this and he picks it up and
twists it into your stomach. Bang. Like
that. It's weird. Like it works. Oh, no.
It's a kick. I mean, it's called a
twisting kick. Twisting kick.
>> It's just you don't ever see people
throwing that kick from the front leg
like he does. Like, he does a lot of
>> he does a lot of weird [ __ ] that you
have to get used to. Like that Tom
Aspenol fight, man. He was he was
scoring very well on the feet. And I
know it got stopped because of the eye
pokes, but before the eye poke, Sirill
Gan was doing very well on the feed
against Aspenol. And Aspenol is a big
fast heavyweight.
It's going to be interesting because I
don't I don't you know know if Pereira
is going to have an issue with the
movement, you know, if he's going to be
able to shut that movement down and I
don't know if Sirill Gan is going to be
able to like if he's going to want
exchange with him. He might feel that
power and say I'm just going to fight on
the outside cuz Pereira's got that you
make one mistake power.
>> He looks good at heavyweight.
>> He looks like he gained the weight. He
looks yolked.
>> He's he's huge. And on top of that, no
dieting. So no depleting of his body at
all. You're going to have a guy
competing for the first time where he's
never had to cut weight. That's huge.
That's a giant advantage. Not having to
cut weight is like they let you take
steroids. You can't you don't have to
cut weight. No cutting weight at all. If
they changed weight cutting, if they cut
all weight cutting out of MMA, you'd
have like 20% better performances.
people would be fighting so much better
because they would they would feel so
much healthier. They would be so much
more durable. There wouldn't be as many
like one-shot knockouts where you're
like, "Whoa, that got them." Because a
lot of these guys like their brain is
still dehydrated when they're in there
fighting. It's only 24 hours after they
rehydrate. That's not enough time to get
to the brain.
>> I would go to weighins with you and
these guys would come in like they
looking like they had cancer.
>> They look dead. Yeah.
>> They I would see them and then they
would IV in the back. Then I think they
cut out IVs afterwards. They cut out
IVs.
>> I remember being there with you and
looking at these guys coming in.
>> They were dying.
>> They looked like they were on that
[ __ ] GLP for 10 years. Like [ __ ]
Sharon Osborne's daughter. I mean, they
were looking [ __ ] up, Jack.
>> Yeah, they looked dead. Some guys looked
real. You remember when Anderson Silva
fought Travis Lutter? Do you remember
that fight?
>> Yeah. The jiu-jitsu guy from Texas?
>> Exactly.
>> Yes.
>> He That was the worst I ever saw anybody
at a weigh-in.
>> He looked really [ __ ]
>> And again, this was not the ceremonial
weigh-in like we have now. This was like
the actual weigh in. See if you can make
the weight. And Travis couldn't walk. He
was shuffling. He couldn't pick his legs
up. His his lips were cracked. Like he
his body was dried out.
>> Can't be good for you like that. And
then to pick it back up and then go
throw rounds, throw punches 8:00 the
next night.
>> Meanwhile, I mean, he was so depleted,
but he got a hold of Anderson the first
round. It took him down. And that's what
he wanted to do. And Travis in Texas.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
>> Kevin Holland's uh coach.
>> Oh [ __ ] Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Travis is a bad
[ __ ]
>> Was a bad [ __ ]
>> He was a when guys rolled with him on
the Ultimate Fighter. You know, one of
um one of the best compliments one of
the guys said, he goes, "Dude," he goes,
"I've rolled with only a couple guys
like that is like him and Ricardo
Laboro." I go, "Really?" I go, "That guy
feels like Ricardo Laboro. He's that
level." He goes, he's like, "Dude, he
was running through people. Just running
through people on the ground." Travis
was a beast. He was one of the first
like truly elite Brazilian jiu-jitsu
black belts in like the modern era, like
the Anderson Silva era. Whereas when he
got guys to the ground, you were in
trouble. You're in real trouble. There's
a few guys Charles Olivera is the big
one. Charles Olivera puts people in
positions they're like, "Oh no, what
have I done?" Like you think you're
going to be comfortable like in his
guard like pitch. You're never going to
be comfortable on the ground with
Olivea. Olive is just so dangerous
everywhere.
>> 20 years of jiu-jitsu, correct? 20
years. They've been doing since they
were a kid. Yep. So, it's like stand up.
>> Great camp. He's from that shoot the box
camp. I mean, that camp produced
Anderson Silva. Um, Marie, um, Ninja,
uh, Shogun, like who else? No.
>> Ple Ple, the one of the original MMA
fighters back in the bare knuckle days.
He was the the top dude in the original
in the original days. No, Noggera is not
from Shootbox. Noggera is a Carlson
Gracie guy. Those was he is Carlson
Gracie, right? No,
>> Carlson's in Chicago.
>> No, no Ggera wasn't Carlson Gracie.
Noggera was um I don't want to get that
wrong. Who was Noggera's trainer?
Menitaro Noggera, his original jiu-jitsu
coach.
>> [ __ ] brother. Probably.
>> No, both of them were elite teasing you.
They were twins.
>> They were twins, right?
>> Yeah, they were twins. They were both
elite. They were both like world class
fighters in pride.
Does it say his jiu-jitsu coach?
>> Pull up his wik.
>> Minotauro was the first like he was the
first guy that was like finishing elite
guys off of his back in pride. Like he
was tapping to like when he was the
champion in pride. Like you remember
when he beat Bob Sap?
>> No.
>> Bob Sap was 350 lbs with abs. And the
the fight was crazy. He picks Minotauro
up and spikes him on his head in the
beginning of the fight. [ __ ] his neck
up for years. Like his neck was [ __ ]
up after that fight and still survived
and eventually caught Bob Sappin and
Armbar, but it was bananas.
Omry Bet. Okay. Yeah, there you go. Omry
Bet is another guy who fought early in
the UFC.
So that's his coach for one. Where did
he get his black belt? Just see where he
got his black belt from.
Just ask the question, who gave
Minotaurro his black belt?
Uh, let me say, okay, Hicardo Daha,
that's his primary instructor.
There you go. Okay.
Yeah, he was. Uh,
>> so we could assume he invented the delah
he hook
>> probably. There's a bunch of moves that
are attributed to guys that it's not
quite sure whether or not they invented
it, but they were really good at it, you
know.
>> How much fun is that getting somebody
and taking them down?
>> It's fun.
>> I can't finish the leg lock. I never
could. I'm [ __ ] terrible. I can't get
my arms around it. I'm [ __ ] My
shoulders are [ __ ] up.
>> Leg locks are scary.
>> Yeah, I don't like all of that [ __ ] You
[ __ ] them up, you know, you twist the
wrong way, you turn the wrong way, you
hear things pop. E, scary.
>> You still training with private? No
more?
>> No, I haven't over a year. I haven't
done any coming in with you.
>> I was for a while. I have a I got a knee
problem. It's much better now. I've been
really working on it over the last 6
months, but it kept swelling after a
while. The the thing is it would get
better and uh I'd it would feel pretty
good and then I'd hurt it again. And
usually I heard it like a year ago
hunting. I twisted it. hunting and then
um I've I've also heard it like hitting
the back too. Like sometimes I just
start whailing on the back
>> of you forget.
>> Yeah,
>> you forget.
>> It's just the next day it's sore as
[ __ ] It's like I don't have meniscus on
one part of my knee. So I have to make
sure that it doesn't get arthritic. You
know what I mean? Because
>> like I don't have to tell you like once
your knee gets bad, it's a real problem.
It's a problem. And so you got to like
walk that edge between when you don't
have cartilage or you don't have
meniscus and your cartilage is getting
bone on bone like that. Like you got to
be careful. You got to be careful.
They're getting real close to fixing
[ __ ] Real close. They're injecting like
different kinds of gels in people's
knees now that re replace the meniscus.
And they're also doing some new stem
cell therapy where they go into the bone
itself and it regenerates
>> cartage. But that gel, they always work
you with that gel. I think it's a new
one, Joey. It's a It's like a It's They
call it a biological matrix.
>> You need to [ __ ] get like a You need
to get like a uh insurance approval and
all that. Yeah, I did it. That's just
all those things. It's like when you see
an ad for somebody, do you have problems
sleeping? Buy this mouthpiece for
$29.99.
>> I don't think you got what they have now
because this is just released in
Germany. This is this is brand new. But
this gel, like I'm just saying to you,
the gel, the cortisol. I have friends
with knee problems and they tell me what
they go through and they go to different
doctors and it's the same [ __ ] we got
cortisol for you.
>> We got the gel. We're not going to do
the PRP and we don't do stem cell. So
you Joe regular, you don't do no
reading. This is what happened to me
with the [ __ ] why I did the surgery
in the first place. you had moved here
and I didn't know about ways to well if
not I wouldn't have never cut this knee
the first time never never
>> I didn't read up on it because when my
wife was pregnant I read up on all that
[ __ ] and I was I didn't want to have the
baby no more cuz it said when you're old
for 43 you'll die if you give them birth
like so if you're not ready when you get
older as a woman you know now women are
having kids at 50s and [ __ ] 55s
>> but a woman has to be she has like a
short window And they have a lot of
things that could go wrong with the
pregnancy. When I read that, I got
nervous for my wife. I'm like, she's
going to die on a [ __ ] table
>> and I'm stuck raising a girl. I don't
know how to [ __ ] raise a girl, you
know? What am I going to do here? So, I
didn't really I researched it a little
bit after I got the kn after I went and
I saw the [ __ ] the chisel and the
[ __ ] mallet on the table. I go, we
got to look into this when I get out of
here. Like, this is [ __ ] insane. I
would have never done the redo knee. I
would have waited, shot it with stem
cell, BPCed it. At that time, I was
still a little fearful of needles. So, I
was like, uh, BPC them everything is you
got to shoot it.
>> You're feel fearful of needles, but not
of a knee replacement. That's hilarious.
>> No, I'm broke. Now, I'm fine [laughter]
now. It took It took four days in the
hospital last year to [ __ ] like go.
One day they had to come in and take
blood out of me every 20 minutes for 3
hours.
>> Why?
>> It's that type of test. They shoot you
with something to see how you react to
it.
>> Wow. And dog, I didn't faint one time. I
don't faint no more. Unless like last
time I weighs too well. I went in there
hung over on those tequilas from
[laughter] the mother ship drinking that
Ron White juice and [ __ ] I went in
there with no breakfast like we need to
take blood out within minutes. I'm pale.
I'm sweating profusiously. They got to
put ice on my back and on my neck and
[ __ ] And when I did the when they turn
the switch off on your leg, what's that?
When you do that little before surgery,
when I first hurt the knee, they said,
"We're not going to give you pain
medication, but if you're really hurting
that bad, come on down here and we'll
give you a nerve block."
>> Oh, they give you a nerve block.
>> Joe Rogan. Holy [ __ ]
>> Well, who did that? Where' they do that?
>> Because the place where I went for
surgery, the first time they're [ __ ]
>> Uhhuh.
>> This place is specialized in all that
stuff. So, they have their own therapy.
They have their own uh like the surgeons
and then they have a pain department
>> that they talk to you
>> and they go listen you could take this
you want it we'll give it to you but
let's do this let's try it with this
they don't want you you know and I
understand it people lose their minds on
those [ __ ] things so I did the nerve
block first Joe
holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] and when I went to
the doctor about a month ago the girl
was like I was there that day I go when
I fainted she goes you didn't faint but
you sure came goes. She goes, "You lost
all the color in your face. It's crazy,
Joey. Had to drink water." And then the
epidural block. You ever do one of
those?
>> No. Well, no, I did when I got my knee
surgery.
>> Yeah, they always knee surgery you I
thought they put you out for those.
>> They did most of the time, but my first
ACL I asked if I could watch. And uh he
said, "You don't want to watch it?" I
go, "No, I do. I don't want to I only
want to get this done once. I want to
see it. Can I watch it?"
>> Where'd you see it? And they shot in a
nail on your spine.
Well, they shot it in my spine and so it
it you don't feel anything in your legs
and I watched him open my knee up and
put it together again.
>> [ __ ] you, Joe. That's [laughter]
>> the epidural block is one of the wor
>> I wanted to see. I'm like, I don't want
to do this once. I I didn't know that I
was going to have another ACL surgery.
Eight years.
>> So, you didn't get put out for your
surgery?
>> No, not the first one. The second one I
did.
>> That's insane, Joe. That's [ __ ]
insane. I love you that you're Zombo and
[ __ ] but
>> I wanted to watch.
>> No, I want to watch a lot of things.
>> I want to see what it looks like because
it's kind of crazy. They're going to
take your knee, take a slice out of your
patella tendon along with a chunk of
bone and a chunk of bone for your
kneecap and then they screw it back in
place. I'm like, this is crazy. I want
to watch. Held up. Still [clears throat]
good. The the real problem was the
meniscus. So, they didn't even take the
meniscus out then. They just um stitched
it up. There was a tear in the meniscus,
but it wasn't too bad. and he thought it
could heal, you know, cuz I was my in my
20s. I was like 23, I think, 22. Um, and
then, uh, over time it just got wore out
that that tear became a bucket handle
tear and then it would lock. So, it
would pull the meniscus would pull up
and like lock in place. It was [ __ ]
insanely painful. And I was like, "This
keeps happening." It happened a couple
of times. It was like it happened in
jiu-jitsu class and Eddie Bravo had to
take me to the doctor. So Eddie Bravo
had to drive my NSX. We drove straight
to the doctor and you know they tell me
I need to get my meniscus removed. I'm
like okay. And then he told me I need to
stop doing martial arts. I was like okay
that's cute.
>> That's the first thing they'll tell you.
>> Yeah. You got to stop doing martial
arts.
>> They everything. No martial arts. No
this.
>> 30 years later. [ __ ] you.
>> Can we get one of those in the medium
ones? What are these?
>> These are Alps. Those are That's Tucker
Carlson's one. It's uh Those are good.
It's uh six six milligrams. These are
threes. This is athletic nicotine.
That's threes. I like those. They don't
make you jittery.
Those those take a hell of a hit. Tucker
likes them strong.
>> I like them, but they [ __ ] I always
swallow them by mistake and they
[laughter] [ __ ] Next thing you know,
I'm [ __ ] pouches and [ __ ] I had
pouch. They have focus ones.
>> Yeah, that's that's these ultras.
>> Yeah, I do the ultras.
>> I don't have them in this room anymore.
I was doing those after I had the
surgery.
>> Those are great. Yeah, they are.
>> There's a bunch of really good things
for your focus. People that think it's
all [ __ ] you know, like that
neutropics are [ __ ] and you're
allowed to think whatever you want, but
trust me, from someone who uses uses his
brain for a living, there's a difference
between taking neutropics and not taking
them. It's not going to make you
smarter, but it'll make your brain
function at a better level. There's a
bunch of [ __ ] that works like that.
Like, you know those um those ketone
drinks, like ketone IQ, that helps a
lot.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Your brain uses ketones. Your
brain uses ketones for focus. That's why
people that take ketogenic diets and go
on carnivore diet, they say it gives
them like more mental clarity. You have
more more focus. It's fact. Like I feel
different when I'm eating like clean. If
I'm eating like carnivore, just eggs and
steak, my brain works better 100%.
>> It's just not processing the carbs and
all the fog that comes with that. Not
that carbs are bad for you,
>> but when you um take this stuff, this
stuff is the [ __ ] This is my friend
Derek's Gorilla Mind. This is a
neutropic drink. It's
>> like an energy drink. No,
>> no, it's got some caffeine in. It's got
a good amount of caffeine, but it's got
a bunch of neutropics. So, there's a
bunch of like brain vitamins in there.
>> You know anything about
>> Yeah, I'm not selling this. This is uh
my friends,
>> you know, I'm not uh you know that I
have a great memory with dates and I can
take you to different situations,
>> stories.
>> I don't know what happened the last
three years.
>> How come? If I talked to you on a
Monday, which I usually do, you call me
Mondays on the way home at 6,
whatever we talked about by Thursday,
I don't remember. Like you'll say, "Call
me back. When you find out, I'll [ __ ]
forget now." Like just little things.
>> Recent this last few years.
>> Last few years. I could see, you know,
you know, you're 60. A lot of [ __ ]
changes. You You
>> You know, it's really weird. Joe, I need
eight now.
>> I need eight. Sorry. I need eight.
>> Eight what?
>> Hours of sleep. Eight. Solid. I got the
whoop. I need it.
>> Makes a difference.
>> Six and a half. Don't cut it. Done.
>> Done.
>> I need eight now. And don't get me
started on an hour nap or an hour or 15
nap at 2 or 3:00 in the afternoon. If I
get up in the morning, I get up at 6.
>> So I put her on the bus. I start smoking
weed at 9. I'm at a gym. I'm doing
something. Boxing, PT, you know. So by
[ __ ] 2:00, dog, there's days I walk
in, there ain't no stopping. There ain't
no pissing. I go right to the bed, put
the mask on, and go right to sleep.
Just like that. I mean, there's no
thought. There's no stop it, get what is
that monopoly? Stop it, go and get 200.
[laughter] Ain't none of that. I come
in, I drop my bag, I pee, and I walk
right upstairs right to the bed. I move
the cat over. Get the [ __ ] over.
[laughter] And I [ __ ] put that mask
on.
>> Does the cat cuddle with you while
you're sleeping?
>> Oh, please. And he goes under the blank.
She goes under the blank with me, too.
So, it's perfect.
>> That's funny.
>> But, dog, it's not no more. Like, I'm
don't fly out early no more.
>> [ __ ] you.
>> Yeah, you need you need a solid amount
of sleep. As you get older, it's even
more important. You know what else is
really important? Creatine.
>> I take 10 milligrams twice a day.
>> Beautiful.
>> Beautiful.
>> Beautiful. That's phenomenal for your
memory and that's a really good
neutropic as well.
>> I don't like the gummies. I never got
You had some gummies on here.
>> Good. I like them.
>> My neighbor gave them to me that you had
them.
>> I prefer to just open it up and pour it
in my mouth and then drink water.
>> Yeah, me too. I like the powder, too.
>> Yeah. I put like the 10 milligrams in my
mouth and I just drink water.
>> You don't put it on your food, do you?
>> No.
>> I just keep put I put in a smoothie from
time to time. I like the raspberries
with coconut water. the make the best
way to make sure that I'm getting all 10
milligrams is to just pour it in my
mouth and then drink water with it
because otherwise it's in the glass. You
got to rinse the glass and get more of
it in. You know, you're giving yourself
an exact dose. Just put it in your
mouth. Dry scoop it. So, I just dry
scoop it in my mouth and then pour the
water in there. Okay,
>> that's how I do it most of the time.
What the gummies are really good for is
if you forget and they're just laying
around, you just eat a couple of
gummies.
>> You know,
>> I don't know how many milligrams are in
the nose, right?
[ __ ] I think two gummies is 5 millig.
I think that's what it is.
>> I also got turned on to a creatine
company that has a creatine precursor.
Is that
>> creatine? A precursor.
>> Creatine precursor.
>> I don't know what that is.
>> Your own body creates creatine
>> on its own. This helps.
>> Oh, interesting.
>> The body I think it's called a
precursor. Don't [ __ ]
>> Yeah, I don't know.
>> Hey, did I say just right off with a
[ __ ] You know what I'm saying? I
[laughter] know that cuz I'm saying it
wrong. like Voltron. I don't [ __ ]
know, guys.
>> I'm sure there's something. I mean,
there's always a bunch. I mean, there's
if you think about how many supplements
are out there. Like, good lord, there's
so many supplements. And not all of them
are good, but a lot of them are really
good. Here's another one that's really
good for working out. Beta alanine. You
ever take that?
>> No.
>> Phenomenal. Phenomenal.
>> I take everything else. It's just
>> makes you tingle, though. Makes your
skin like itch.
>> You ever take iodine?
>> No. Iodine.
>> Yeah. Like you there's a pill or
something. You take iodine to help you.
You're supposed to do that if you get
radiation poisoning.
>> Listen, when the first piss test came
out, they said you would take iodine. So
again,
>> you put Clorox in your dick.
>> I put Clorox in my dick afterward
[laughter] because the iodine obviously
didn't [ __ ] work. Okay.
[laughter]
>> Imagine when they read your piss through
the [ __ ] test machine, they be like,
"What? What did What is this?"
>> Do you understand?
>> This isn't piss. [laughter]
>> Do you understand? Like one of the best
times I go every morning I go out and
take my cup of coffee and I sit outside.
I thank God, you know, the whole [ __ ]
[ __ ] story. And then it takes me
somewhere like after the second cup of
coffee and one of these zins and a
bonget, your mind goes somewhere and I
think of chunks of my life and I go,
"What the [ __ ] was that?"
>> Like that was Joe. That was insanity.
What about every time he used to come to
my house to do the checkup, I never let
him in. He came like 11 times in two
years. I never let him in my house. He
wouldn't know I was in [laughter] the
house. He would put the sheriffs to come
and sit outside my house for two hours.
Then they would leave. They're like,
"We're not going to He's not home." I
never let him in my house. I tortured
that guy. That's right.
>> He could have sent me to prison. I still
would have been in prison.
>> But it was such a like first it was the
iodine
>> and then you [ __ ] you know, you're
supposed to take 20 milligrams. I mean,
200, whatever. I don't know. And my skin
is burning. I'm [ __ ] red in the face.
I got issues. So, I stopped with the
iodine. I still came back positive. Then
I went on the [ __ ] uh white vinegar.
>> White vinegar.
>> White vinegar with a [ __ ] bottle of
Gatorade on a Monday morning. Not a
little vinegar. Not red wine vinegar.
The real vinegar that you clean your
[ __ ] with [laughter]
and douchebags and all that [ __ ]
Vinegar cleans you. That's what women
wash their monkey with vinegar because
it takes all the [ __ ] cat piss out of
all [laughter] the [ __ ] they got in
there.
So they said, "Drink vinegar every
Monday morning, bro." And it's like a
process. Like you would get high Friday
and you would hope to beat it by Sunday,
but you knew you weren't going to beat
it. And they're going to call you
Monday. And it was like your color is
yellow, right? Like if they say yellow,
you got to come in. So you wait till
1:00 and you're like, "All right." You
had to call in and all a sudden today,
Monday, Tuesday, the 9th of June, the
colors are purple. And you're like,
"Yellow. God damn. Now I got Now I got
to figure out I got 5 hours. The place
closes at 6:00. So I got to figure out
how to stop this cocaine from coming up.
So then we started taking STO.
>> What's Serto?
>> Serto is what you put in like jello.
It's that thing that makes the jello
jiggle or some [ __ ] like
>> what
[ __ ] sauo. No,
>> there [laughter] was there was no
internet these days. These are just
these are seal.
>> What is that? a brand of liquid fruit
pectin most commonly used in the kitchen
as a thickening agent [laughter] for
homemade jams and jellies. However, it's
also widely known as an internet folk
remedy people use an attempt to mask
drug drug metabolites in urine. It's a
folk remedy.
>> It's [ __ ] [ __ ]
>> Does it work?
>> No. That's why
>> let's find out if it works. Uh the myth.
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But again, you get your advice from a
guy who's done 30 [ __ ] years. Then
you forget he's been doing 30 years
because he made mistakes, not because
he's a [ __ ] genius about Serto.
Exactly.
>> You know, and then we went from Serto
and then one day I was swimming.
>> Does anything work?
>> Huh?
>> Is anything work?
>> No. Cranberry juice.
>> What about that stuff that they used to
sell? Remember they used to sell stuff?
>> This is 90 [ __ ] This is 89. They
didn't sell nothing.
>> No, but do you remember there was some
stuff that you could buy this? Yeah. No.
No. You're saying you could buy piss
now. Now it's completely different.
>> You could buy piss.
>> Yeah, you could buy piss online. Just
get that uh whatever [laughter] that
dirty that dirty [ __ ] uh XPTt,
whatever. You go on and you could search
hidden [ __ ] all over the world.
>> Got to get a rubber dick and take that
piss. And
>> dog, I had a guy who made a rubber dick.
Normal could not start snorting coke.
So, he made a a contraption where he
filled up his son's piss in a hot water
bottle and did the same thing with the
douche. And he took the douche on the
bottom. Scots taped it to his dick and
he would piss and squeeze his chest.
>> Oh my god. That's
>> Then one day the thing blew up
[laughter]
>> and he was a bank robber. They sent to
jail for 30 [ __ ] years.
>> Want to hear the craziest steroid uh
evasion story that I ever heard from
piss. There was a guy who was fighting
and he knew he was going to get piss
test and he was just juiced to the tits.
So the legend is that they inserted
clean urine into his bladder through
injection.
So he injected clean urine into his
bladder with a needle.
Whether or not that's true, I have no
idea. But this is what everybody This is
like early days of the UFC, like when
they first started drug testing people.
>> Would you think
>> I don't even think it was in the UFC
that he did this. I think it was in
another organization. But I don't know
if it's true.
>> Think about what's going on the other
side of this.
>> Your addiction is that high.
>> Well, these guys when they're that
juiced up, when they're that juiced up,
they're not getting off of it. Cuz if
they get off, they'll have no muscle.
>> I get it. I understand. So, you
understand the extremes that people do.
>> Could you ever shoot [ __ ] fake piss?
>> Like, Joey, go piss in the [ __ ]
thing. I'm going to shoot Joey's piss.
>> A guy willing to do that and trusting
that guy was finding your bladder. He
could shoot piss into your liver. Like,
who who knows what this guy even
understands? levels that you do.
>> So, here I am, sir. It don't work.
[ __ ] nothing works. And one day I'm
in a pool. And I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] when
you piss in the pool,
>> the pool cleaner
cleaned all this and not the pool would
be green the next day."
>> So, this is your logic.
>> I went I [laughter] took the kids I took
one of those cubes first
>> where the crumbs
>> smashed it up
and then I put it on my outside of a
dick cuz I'm uncircumcised. So I would
pull the skin back and that would fall
into the [ __ ] piss. And then so he
told me once he go something happened
last time you [ __ ] up the machine or
something like that, right?
>> Women would insert condoms filled with
someone else's urine inside themselves.
He said some athletes would inject urine
into their bladders using a catheter. Oh
god, they did do that. So that's real.
[gasps]
So maybe that's how he did it. Maybe
they used a catheter and that's how they
put the fake.
>> But then there's the wizator.
>> Yeah, that was the rubber dick. That's
uh one of those.
>> Wasn't there some stuff that you could
buy that would you would get at like a
head shop and supposedly detox you?
>> This is 89.
>> But does that stuff work?
>> Nothing. When I was googling it, it says
nothing's real. That's
>> Nothing's real. Yeah. I always assumed
that it wasn't real. I was like, "You
selling this at a head shop?"
>> Stuff from the '9s. These are some of
the product.
>> But the killer was when I used Drano.
>> Oh, okay. So, this is all [ __ ]
>> Yeah. They just rob people.
>> They just rob people.
>> Fetish urine. Look at that. It says,
look at that's labels. Fetish urine.
What the [ __ ] does that mean?
>> It's probably a way to sell it because
you have to say what
>> you know not for human consumption or
something.
>> Oh, so that's your buying piss. Oh, so
that's an actual bag of piss on the
right. [laughter]
>> Oh, good lord.
>> This one calls it tinkle.
>> It's fetish urine. So if you just like
want someone to piss on you, but no
one's willing you. [snorts]
You've already told that story about the
guy with the gay club, the guy at the
bathtub that
>> everybody was pissing on him in the tub.
>> Yeah.
>> And then that party Shamer took me to in
that hotel next to the comedy store and
they were getting pissed on in there,
the women. And then I wake up sadly. I'm
feeling good about myself and I'm on
Twitter. I see Bonnie Blue. She had a
that chick is [ __ ] She got pissed on
had a baby shower in her ass. People
were pissing her [ __ ] in her ass and
I'm like, somebody's got to stop that
woman. She's the least of her problems.
>> Oh my god. A [ __ ] baby shower.
>> When I used a drain, although that was
the best because that destroyed the
machine. [laughter]
>> But But the truth of the matter is
>> when he said something happened last
time,
>> well, this is what happened. I put the
drain on my dick
>> and I walked up to the counter and I put
on the desk and he asked you questions.
How's it been?
And I'm looking at the thing and it's
starting to foam like this thing
[laughter]
and it's coming out OF THE BAG
DISHWASHER.
>> And I'm looking at this thing going,
"This [ __ ] better." And what he
did was he just picked it up and threw
it in the bag like when they pick it up
and test it.
>> Sometimes you leave the cop top off.
That was an old trick. You leave the top
off and then it spilled. Uh
>> oh no.
>> So that buys you one extra week. But the
time with the draano, it started like it
was like shaking at the thing like foam
was coming out of the [ __ ] sides and
I locked it up [laughter] good. That's
what happened. There was no oxygen. That
[ __ ] was like, you know, boom.
So [laughter] I put in the [ __ ]
thing. And he called me a few days
later. He's like, "Listen, I wrote up a
thing. I'm taking you to court because
you broke the machine. This cannot
continue.
>> This cannot continue.
>> This can't continue. [laughter] This
can't continue. This is like a [ __ ]
>> cat and mouse game. What did you PUT IN
YOUR BODY? WHAT HAPPENED? [laughter]
What the [ __ ] is going [snorts] on,
Jose?
>> So,
>> they say, "Hey, your machine sucks. Your
machine broke."
>> And then after nothing to do with me.
>> No. And then they put me on like this
hold. They were like, "We're not even
going to piss. You don't want the We're
done. We can't take this mental [ __ ]
[laughter]
>> So, this is when you in the probation
department. Now, they were going to
throw me back in community corrections
because they'll put you in for 90 days."
and all that. I met this [ __ ] guy
for 3 months. We spoke like nothing,
like gentlemen. I would talk to him, saw
him once a week. And one day I said,
"What do you do?" And he goes, "I'm a
district attorney in Boulder, Bill
Wise."
I I need a beef, man. I need a problem.
I'm on this probation. They won't leave
me alone. What do I do to get off? He
goes, "Just have your attorney draw up a
a statement and I'll sign it and get you
all probation." And that was it. M
>> just a guy I met on the street, Bill
Wise, and then he got fired after the
John Bet Ramsey thing.
>> He was there during the whole John Bet
Ramsey thing and everybody got [ __ ]
fired, I guess. I don't know. Bill Wise
was a great dude, man. He was good to
me. And I told him, we asked him what I
did. I told him the truth and he goes,
"Did you learn from mistake?" "Yeah, I'm
here working." He goes, "Okay, pass it
over and I'll sign." I'm like, "Oh my
god, how [ __ ] lucky am I? I'm done.
I'm done." I was done. started in ' 87.
It was all the way to 91. For a year, I
was [ __ ] them up with the pee thing.
[laughter]
Then they put me back in the half spot
in the halfway house. And that was even
worse. I was out of control in there.
Out of there was freaks in there.
There's [ __ ] everything in there.
Freaky girls. I was stealing the air
conditioner out of the conference room
and put it in my room. They couldn't
They couldn't handle me there either.
They were like, "Dog, [laughter] you
just go home. We're not going to [ __ ]
with you no more."
>> And that's what you do. you do just wear
somebody ragging. They'll let you go
eventually. They'll just say, "You know
what, man? It ain't worth it. You're
never going to stop. You're never going
to stop." And then a year later, I had
like an affair with the one time I had
an affair with like the chick that
worked in that office. She's the one
that had the one leg.
>> They deliver Chinese food to her.
It never stopped. And you think of those
chunks in your life and [snorts] go,
"What the [ __ ] was going on?"
>> Yeah. You were out of control. Like it's
31 years and I still won't get back to
Boulder because of the shame I endured.
[laughter]
Seriously, like I won't Everybody goes,
"Why don't you go back to Boulder?"
Because I'm ashamed that that was such a
beautiful city and I treated like it was
Newark,
>> right?
>> Like I did what I wanted. I would go to
Kmart, hang out outside of [ __ ] the
the lawn more department and people will
come out with new lawnmowers and the
receipt would fly off. I get that
receipt and go to Longmont and get that
lawnmower for 400 and walk it up and go,
"My mother bought me this. I don't want
it no more." And I give him the receipt
and they gave me 400 cash plus plus tax.
Who does that? That [ __ ] Toys R Us. I
took that thing down by myself with
those Jeffrey bucks. I took them down.
>> What's a Jeffrey buck?
>> They It's like when you bring a a stolen
computer in there and they give you They
won't give you cash. They'll give you
Jeffrey bucks.
>> So, you have to spend it on in the
[ __ ] store.
>> You know, I had a million dollars in
Jeffrey Bucks. So one time I was buying
bicycles and [ __ ]
it's just it just I was an animal and I
feel really guilty about it today. I'm
thinking of booking the Fox Theater in
Boulder and doing like cuz Leisio is
opening back up my Italian joint.
>> So they called and they said we're
opening back up and I'm like I'm
thinking of doing Boulder like Fox
Theater. Just take my lumps, apologize,
donate to something there and just call
it a [ __ ] night cuz I still feel
guilty man. And I'm old, but now I feel
guilty about the damage. I put Boulder
through [ __ ] eight I mean, I got
chased through the mall by security and
I'm throwing [ __ ] CDs at them.
[laughter] I remember the Denver Broncos
were playing Cleveland in ' 87, those
big playoff games. Do you remember
those, Jamie?
>> Doug, I'm at the mall one day and
everybody's in the hallway looking at
TVs. I'm like, who's minding the stores?
I went into Radio Shack and I popped out
the [ __ ] CD player, brand new one,
and just put the quarter on it and
walked out like nothing. Who does that,
dog? That's animal. I'm I'm ashamed to
admit this [ __ ] but it was like you
said when you first went to Boulder the
first time. You're like, "This must have
been a [ __ ] grocery store for Joey
Diaz."
>> That's exactly what I said when I went
there.
>> It was [laughter] It was a shame.
>> Everybody's so They're so like peaceful
and sweet.
>> I brought chaos.
>> Yeah,
>> chaos. And it was too much. When I was
in the prison, I brought chaos in there.
I had my cell open. I did what I wanted.
It was just too much. And I to this day
it's New York. You could [ __ ] like that
because that's what New York is about. I
was a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] in New York
too. But I don't feel guilty about that.
I still walk around the city now.
>> Got so many pieces of [ __ ] in New York.
Unique in Boulder.
>> It was unique. But in Boulder they
didn't have anything like me.
>> They didn't they had no
>> I was shaking down people. Some guy kept
telling me I saw you on A&E. Remember in
the in the ' 90s and ' 80s A&E was a
mafia channel. They talked Bill whatever
talked about A&E to call the own family.
>> And this guy saw me one day. like, "Hey,
you're the guy that's in the witness
relocation plan." This is 8 [ __ ]
nine. This is way before Sammy and all
those guys went in. This guy's telling
me you you're a witness relocated guy. A
little Italian guy. I saw you on on A&E.
You're George the Animal Something from
Boston. I'm like, "Dog, that's not me.
Stop saying that. I already got problems
in [ __ ] Boulder and you're telling
people that I'm a witness relocated
mafia guy."
He pissed me off so much. Finally, I
just kicked his [ __ ] door down. He
had like one of those Italian knickknack
stores. I went in there and I said,
"Dog, since I'm George the animal, I am.
You're going to give me 200 a week."
Bro, he started giving me 200 a week for
like 3 weeks. Then he called a sit down
with Antonio Lizio. And Antonio's like,
"Yeah, you got to keep paying him." And
the guy closed up shop like 3 weeks
later. I never saw him again. Little
Italian guy would always kick his shoes
up. Dog, that's crazy [ __ ] I would
snort coke at an ATM in Boulder. They
had a next to Murphy's there's an ATM
you could walk into with the door. I
would go in there with a case of beer at
night and just put Coke on the metal.
People [snorts] would come and go ahead.
Can't take this [ __ ] back. But it
[clears throat] was done and I can't
undo it, you know?
>> But it bothers you now.
>> Well, does it bother you or does it just
make you confused like how the [ __ ] I
>> Nobody remember half this [ __ ] I'm
saying. Nobody ever remember this [ __ ]
People are on they moved on with their
lives. They saw me now. They go, "Hey,
that's a guy that kidnapped the guy."
No, you know, my name was in the paper.
My picture wasn't. They didn't have a
picture of me, but everything else was
in the [ __ ] paper. It's a guilt. It's
a weird [ __ ] guilt, man. That I could
have done so much better there if I
would have play If I would have played
my card, right? I could have graduated
college as a [ __ ] astronaut cuz they
were going to give me everything just
cuz I was Cuban. They had no Spanish
people at that college. They had only
like eight blacks that played football.
So, they were doing anything to get
Latinos. I would have been a [ __ ]
astronaut [laughter]
>> with a GED.
>> Yeah, but we would have missed this,
Joey.
>> Yeah, but
>> it's good that it turned out this way.
>> Let me ask you something. If you
wouldn't have gotten into [laughter]
this [ __ ] thing, what would you what
would you think you'd be doing now?
>> If I hadn't gotten into which one?
>> This thing that we're doing, standup
comedy. No, stand up comedy opened up
everything.
>> What would I be doing? Uh, I don't know,
man. I don't know. I probably would have
fought again.
>> Would you be a chef? Would you be I
mean, I could pin you as a chef. You
love to cook.
>> Yeah, I do love to cook. Um, chef, a
mason.
>> I found something that I enjoyed doing.
>> What?
>> I don't know. I would have figured it
out.
>> What's your second love?
>> The real problem would be if I had a kid
real young.
>> So, if uh, you know, I know a bunch of
my friends got married and had kids when
they're like 22, 23.
>> The pro, there's nothing wrong with
that, but [clears throat] then that
really limits your ability to just go
for it because you have mouths to feed.
That's a different animal. You know, I I
think about the early days of standup
when I was 21 and how I had zero money.
I mean, zero. I had zero money. I barely
could eat. I [clears throat] remember I
had a a big [ __ ] jar of pennies and
nickels and dimes and [ __ ] and I
remember rolling it all up so I could go
get a sandwich. Like I [snorts] had no
money. And so I were I could imagine
like if I was trying to do that, I said,
"Well, I'm just going to live like this
for a couple years and I think if I work
hard enough, I could eventually start
making money doing standup and if I keep
getting better, maybe I could be a
professional, you know, that was the
idea. It was never like have a career.
But if I had a kid and I had a wife,
there's no way I would have done it.
[clears throat] There's no way I would
have to have gotten a job." And that's
where a lot of people get into, you
know, or maybe you think it's going to
be a good investment to get a house,
which it is, but now you've got a
mortgage. So, you got a mortgage, you
can't just [ __ ] lose everything.
Like, I got my car repossessed. I was
broke, man. I was broke,
>> bro. I used to have to hide my car in a
garage so they won't repossess.
[laughter]
>> [ __ ]
>> Yeah. I mean, it was 100% check to
check. Never had any money in the bank.
>> I don't know if this ever happens to
you, but it happens to me a lot now. And
this is why I started this grateful [ __ ]
because that day is I pull up to my
house. I don't know who lives there.
>> Yeah.
>> I go, who lives here?
This is me really.
>> I know it doesn't feel real.
>> And then you ask, you say yourself, this
is the most important thing for people
listening. I want you to listen to this.
If you have a dream or a goal, you go, I
got to pay for that with comedy,
which I always thought I was just going
to make $100 a set. And I would have
been fine with that if nobody would ever
bothered me in my life. I would have
been fine with $100 a set, getting in my
beat up car and doing that, getting your
dick sucked, getting STDs. I would have
done all that [ __ ] you know? That's
what it is.
So when you look at your house, whether
it cost $40,000 or $80 million and go, I
paid for this doing $15 sets at the
comedy store.
>> Yeah.
>> When you got into this, you just wanted
to survive. Never mind the [ __ ] house
and cars and you never dreamed of this
with standup. I know I didn't.
>> I never dreamed of this with anything.
No,
>> I I never thought I would be a person
who had money.
>> I dreamed of being a funny person and to
be funny enough to make a living in
standup. Yeah.
>> I never saw this part of it. So when I
pull up in my house and I go, that was
paid with $20 sets.
>> $25 here, 15 here, 100 here. Yeah, that
adds up. I'm not saying that. But that
was paid by a dream.
>> Yeah.
>> Not a job, not something my family did.
I wasn't forced into like raising lemons
or whatever the [ __ ] people do that are
decent, you know, growing lemons,
[laughter] you know? Seriously, we were
born into this. This is something we got
into and said, "I just want to survive.
>> I just want to be able to eat three
meals and get enough gas to go to the
next thing." Forget money in the bank.
Forget it. It's overrated. I would never
even open up a bank account. I didn't
open up a bank account till I was 40
years old, you know? I just ran on
whatever the [ __ ] I would open and put
20 in and write a bounce check and
[ __ ] move on and pray that nobody
caught you, you know? And people have no
idea what that feeling is like. I get in
my car and I go, "Holy shit." How many
cars did I have that I had a What are
those? Bungee cords. Oh, yeah. A bungee
cord.
>> I had a car when I first did comedy. I
had to close the door with a bungee cord
across my thing. It was like my
combination seat belt because if I took
a [ __ ] right turn, the door would
open.
You know, the door would just wing open.
Now I'm in a car that's [ __ ] I paid
for with comedy, not drugs.
>> A nice one.
>> Not anything. No. Whether it's nice or
not, you paid for this without nobody's
interference with somebody with
something that somebody told you you'd
never be good at.
>> You never be good at. Somebody at least
said it to you one time. Joe, come on,
man. Comedy.
>> You're never going to What do you think?
You're going to be on HBO with [ __ ]
[clears throat] Richard Prior and George
Carlin. You laugh, but you're like, they
kind of right. They were [ __ ] wrong.
We didn't know it. We just didn't
[ __ ] know it.
>> Well, it's like telling someone, "I'm
going to run 200 miles." Like, no,
you're not. You can't even run around
the block. like, "No, one day I'm going
to run 200 miles." Like, "No, you're
not. You're not going to run 200 miles."
And most of the time they're right. But
if you're one of those [ __ ]
that says, "Look, it might take me 10
years to develop the endurance to run
200 miles. But I I can't if I start
right now, next month I'm going to be
able to run five miles, you know, in six
months I'll be able to run 10 miles, and
then I'm going to keep going."
>> But then you quit before the miracle
happens.
>> Well, somewhere along the line, not
>> How many people do we know that quit?
How many people do we know that were
really talented, that were really funny,
>> and just disappeared and now you see him
like
>> I don't want to shame anybody, but
there's a few guys and there's this one
guy at the early days of the comedy
store that I really tried to help. I
connected him to my manager and I was
like, "This guy's legit." I'm like,
"You're funny, dude. Like, you're you're
good if you just [ __ ] stay." And then
had a bunch of personal problems, had a
kid think I think he had some legal
issues.
Damn. But that guy, I'm like, I'll tell
you later who it was.
>> No, I know who it was.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And but I [clears throat]
was like, that [ __ ] was funny.
He was funny.
>> Way funnier than I was.
>> He was great. He was a fun dude to be
around. He was a cool dude.
>> I was like, he's going to make it.
>> There was people I looked at and I go,
they're way funnier than I am. Holy
[ __ ]
>> We were both like the same age, too. We
were like 27 when I first met him. And
uh I connected with my manager and he
was like, "Nobody ever did anything like
that for me before." Like, "Nobody tries
to help me."
>> Nobody. I was like, "Listen, man. You
you'll do it too now. You'll make it and
then you'll do it, too. We'll all do it.
It's it it helps and it doesn't hurt.
Doesn't hurt you at all to help
somebody, but it helps them and it helps
you. It helps you feel better. You feel
better that you're helping someone. It's
like it's a like I always say that being
generous is kind of selfish in a way
because you feel better, too. Like when
I'm generous, I feel better."
>> I do.
>> Yeah. Yeah. We all do. And when we're
kind and when we try to help people, you
feel better. It's good for you. It's
good for everybody. And it's like that's
a message that the world needs to hear.
Like you could be good to people. And if
you're good to people and you're nice to
people, it'll help you too. And if you
find someone who's got something, you
got you got and you're doing a thing
like you're doing a thing and there's
someone who's got a spark, there's a
little talent, help though. Help them.
Help those people. Give them advice.
Give them a push. Let them open for you.
Let you know watch their set. give them
some feedback. Help them cuz you know
>> we're not in the comedy business, Joe.
I've never been in the comedy business.
I don't know what anybody's talking
about. We're in the karma business.
>> It's a little of that.
>> I'm in the karma business. I am not in
the com my my goal every day is to make
somebody's day. One person, a woman at
the supermarket. You're looking [ __ ]
bad in a [ __ ] today. Oh, stop
it, Joey. Yeah, that I just made her
[ __ ] day. Her husband sees her every
day and never tells her she's banging.
And I'm going up to this lady I don't
even know and I'm like damn if I was 20
years younger you know they're older
than me like they don't you know
>> that's my thing every day just make
somebody's day one person you can't save
the world
>> but one day a gesture a handshake a
couple dollars is not going to set you
back. That is kind of what you if you're
if you're doing a thing where you're
doing something that people enjoy. Like
think about like your sets. Like think
about how many people have gone to see
you and you change their night. Gone to
see you. Like how many nights at the
store people come in, you want to see a
show? Yeah, let's go see a show. You go
on stage and rock that [ __ ] place.
They leave, they're holding their side
like and they go out and get something
to eat afterwards. NOBODY SAID THAT
[ __ ] THING ABOUT AND THEY'RE D like
change people's evenings. You change
their feelings. You change the way they
feel and you feel good because of it.
It's like this weird exchange. The
reason why we love killing.
>> Especially people that are really good
at it, what they love is that they're
making other people happy. That's really
what you love.
>> That's it. I love it.
>> You're making other people happy
>> and you feel happy because you're making
and when you don't Oh, you feel
terrible.
>> I feel I do better when I look at the
audience and they're laughing and I
laugh with them. Once I laugh, you're
done.
>> Yes.
>> You're done. Yeah.
>> Once I start laughing and giggling,
>> if it's real,
>> parties. Yeah. No, it's real.
>> You're having fun.
>> It's real. It's real. When I look out
there and I see somebody that should not
be laughing and they're laughing at
something blue as [ __ ] that I said and I
don't expect them to laugh, that's what
makes me laugh. Or the look on their
face from the shock of you saying
something.
>> That's what always kicks me into this
[ __ ] mode, you know?
>> Yeah. It's beautiful. The the other
thing I want to talk about in this
podcast cuz I was talking to a friend of
mine in Jersey standup [snorts] and this
is the other thing people don't see.
We're very blessed because we went to LA
or wherever the [ __ ] we went and one day
you're talking to somebody and two weeks
later
they're in a [ __ ] the biggest movie
in Hollywood.
>> Yeah.
>> And it's very hard to explain to people
to sit believe in yourself and just keep
showing up and that this happens. But
since people don't have see that happen
in their world, you know, in Jersey,
what do you see? A guy hits the lottery,
>> he can wins a million dollars. That's
their way out of this life. For us, it
was like
we had we saw too many people make it
like this. Like one day they had nothing
and the next day they're on CBS [ __ ]
doing a show for eight years with
whether it's Kevin or whether it's
>> [ __ ] uh the other guy, the great guy
from Pittsburgh. You've seen that. So it
gives you hope. Now at that situation,
you could say, "Fuck that dude. He's a
[ __ ] loser." You could go, "Good for
him. He just moved the notch up a little
bit so I could get on that conveyor
line." That's the beauty of it. Not
looking at that person going, "Fuck him.
He sucks. He stole my joke in
Pittsburgh. Who gives a [ __ ] about
Pittsburgh in ' 89? Guy's on TV now. You
know, whatever he is, be happy because
you're next. You know him. You [ __ ]
do sets with him,
>> right?
>> You're there in the rotation with him at
the store every night and off and it can
happen for you, too.
>> It happens. [clears throat] So once you
see it, you go, "Oh [ __ ] Okay, now I
know what I need to do."
>> That's if you're real.
>> That's if you're real. I need to get off
coke. I need to cut this [ __ ] out. I
need to do this, this, and this. Just to
get me closer to that because I see it
too much. I see people living in an
apartment with eight people and next
thing you know they got a house in
Beverly Hills. Most people don't see
that,
>> right?
>> So, it's tough to explain to them what
they because everybody thinks you're
going to hit the lottery in your life's
going to change. Boy, are they mistaken.
Everybody thinks $10 million going to
change their life and make them a better
person. It's not. It's not. We think
it's going to. Like when you were broke
all those years, you used to say, "I
can't wait to have money."
>> But you never said, "I can't wait to
have money for what?" I never thought I
would have money.
>> Me neither.
>> I never said I can't wait to have money.
My thought was I want to like make a
living. That's it.
>> That's it. That's why I was
>> Even when I first started with standup,
like it was just to make a living. It
was just doing this thing. I I was a
[ __ ] loser in like regular society. I
was good at kicking people. I was a
loser in regular society. I was like I I
didn't graduate college. I barely got
out of high school. I wasn't paying
attention. I I didn't care about school.
All I cared about was whatever I cared
about, whether it was drawing or whether
it was martial arts. Those are the
things that I cared about. That's it.
>> So, I always felt like I just need to
find a way to live because I I'm never
going to be a successful person. I had
like resigned myself to that. I had no
aspirations.
>> You [snorts]
[ __ ] No, you were way worse than me
because you were in and out of jail.
>> No, I had no family, felonies, no GED. I
was set to [ __ ] die.
>> Yeah.
>> And that little [ __ ] accident I had
in when I was 25 years old, you know,
it's like right now, you go, you look at
the news and there's this big thing
going on by the ice facility by my house
in Jersey in uh Newark. They keep
[ __ ] banging and I'm sitting there
going,
>> "Here's how stupid we are as Americans."
I don't know if Americans know this
[ __ ] When you go to jail, you lose all
your rights. You know why I don't go to
jail, Joe? Because that sleep apnea
machine doesn't mean nothing in jail.
We don't care if you die,
>> right?
>> You know what you have to do to get them
sleep apnnea machine in jail? You got to
go to a manufacturer. They have to send
it to you directly, which we'll get into
later. But my point is that
[ __ ] What was my point? I don't even
know. I got so high before.
>> Your point was that you never thought
you were going to go anywhere.
>> I never thought I was going to go
anywhere
>> until comedy came around and you
realized, oh, this is a thing that I can
do.
>> But all I wanted was 4,000 a month. In
my mind, I was such a loser that I said
to myself, if I can make 4,000 a month,
I'm a millionaire.
>> And today, 4,000 a month doesn't even
get you rent,
>> right?
>> Not even nothing. 4,000.
>> But back then, 4,000 a month was like
8,000 a month.
>> Yeah. 8,000 a month now.
>> And you would say, okay, if I made a h
100red grand a year, I can live like you
can live off 100 grand a year and be
comfortable. Like that's the goal. The
goal was always just to be comfortable.
But the thing with you is I've realized
this like very early on. you were going
to it was going to take a different
path. Like I remember watching like you
emerge when you really started like
killing on stage and I was saying and
then you know all these agents you
remember I had that one agent that would
get mad that I would take you on the
road with me. [laughter]
>> He would get mad. I was like what the
[ __ ] is wrong with he's not I don't
think he's funny. I don't think he's
talented. I go you don't know what the
[ __ ] you're talking about. You don't
know anything. I go why does he make me
laugh so hard? He's like well you're a
degenerate. Like you're a [ __ ] crazy
person. And you got to realize the
audience is offended and that's your
audience. Like shut the [ __ ] up. I knew
that you were a different path. So for
you, your emergence came with the
emergence of the internet. And when the
internet came around and we started
doing podcasts, I'm like, this is the
way that Joey's going to break because
they'll get to see the real you.
>> When I told stories, when I listen, it's
like 24/7 on HBO. You may hate [ __ ]
I don't know, throw any name up. You may
hate that boxer for some reason. He He's
whatever. He's cocky, but then they show
you his house and they show you he's got
four daughters and they show you that he
wakes up every morning and feeds the
daughters. You thought he was a [ __ ]
animal. In the cage, he's an animal, but
in life, he's just a regular guy. And
you get to see that and go, "No, I like
him. I don't see a guy that just punches
people in the head. I see a guy that's
Look at him. He's got [ __ ] makeup on
for his daughters and he's cooking
breakfast every morning. Then he goes
trains like that. Uh Jason, what was his
name? The big young brother from the
UFC, Alexander. Remember he came and he
was knocking heads and they found out he
couldn't do jiu-jitsu. Great guy though.
>> Houston Alexander.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> I watched that thing on him. He was
raising four girls. His wife, the crack
mom, left.
>> That dude was a tank.
>> He was a tank. And he would train in the
mornings, then go home, cook for the
kids.
>> Remember when he knocked out Keith
Jardine? Big upset. Big upset.
>> Big upset. Jardine just tried to take
him out and Houston Alexander was
throwing bombs.
>> He was big and [ __ ] strong.
>> Jacked.
>> Jacked.
>> And he was a radio DJ,
>> you know. He was a radio DJ.
>> I didn't know that.
>> Yeah. He was a hip-hop DJ. Find out
where Houston Alexander was. I'd love to
know where he is. Like a big DJ. Like he
was successful.
>> He always talked to me at the airports.
>> Very good guy. Very good.
>> Very good guy. I was like, "Wow."
But you know you I knew that once I was
able to tell my story where I came from
it was I w I didn't know how to do it on
stage.
>> Then after I done a podcast over the
years I got better enough to learn how
to do it on stage.
>> But you did figure out how to do
something on stage. That was the switch.
And the switch was you figured out how
to be Joey Diaz in the parking lot on
stage.
>> In stage that was the that was killing
me.
>> But it went like that.
>> Like that. I never saw anybody flip a
switch from struggling on stage to
crushing like you. I was like, "This is
wild."
>> And I'm going to tell you some of the
reasons. I was too focused on material.
You're too focused on your [ __ ]
material. And you know what? At the end
of day, your material sucks. I've heard
it already. And that's what I would
think in my mind. So, I would do better.
But when I went up there just with one
thought and attacked it,
>> you know what I mean? I mean, it's hard
to explain what I'm saying to you. Yeah.
No, you what you what you did was you
treated the audience like they were your
boys and we're all hanging out versus
treated the audience like I'm a comic.
Here's some jokes. Like when you first
started when I first What did I meet you
in '96?
>> 97.
>> 97. When I first met you, you were doing
jokes. Like you go on stage and do
jokes.
>> I would focus on the jokes on that
paper. Don't focus on that. At 11:30 at
the store, your jokes don't mean [ __ ]
They just saw three hours of top-notch
comedy. What are you bringing to the
table? You going to go up there and tell
me what I saw on the news? And who
taught us that? Paul Mooney. How to
relax? He would just go up there and in
my mind he was just vibing with the
audience.
>> He did a lot of that
>> and it worked. And I took that realm of
relax.
>> Mooney taught us a lot.
>> Relax.
>> He was a real veteran, you know. He was
like one of the only guys when we were
there that was there during the prior
years. probably
>> and was respected.
>> It wasn't like one of those There was a
few guys that were still hanging around
that had literally acts from the
>> They were still doing like Bruce
Springsteen jokes. No,
>> it was terri. It was just bad.
>> But his laidback
>> Yeah.
>> attitude.
>> Always topical, too. Always new [ __ ]
Anytime new [ __ ] was going on the news,
he had 10 solid minutes on it
>> and quick.
>> Yeah.
>> That day if it happened, you told on
news that night
>> that day.
>> I remember he was crushing on stage
once. We were dying in the back of the
room. He goes, "Oh, that's right. I
write, [ __ ] I write.
>> Yeah. No, no, he's [ __ ] We were
dying.
>> But that calmness taught me how to I was
going up there and rushing.
>> Yeah.
>> I was going up there doing two mistakes.
Rushing and worrying about that material
like it was Bible,
>> right?
>> I'll give you an example.
Sometimes I get an audition, right? When
I was doing a lot of auditions, this is
when I learned that early on when I was
auditioning that if I focused on that
line, those lines, I wasn't going to
book that part.
So I had to dip into Marlon Brando's
[ __ ] tools. Marlon Brando didn't read
[ __ ] He put those signs on you so you
felt more organic. But it wasn't even
that. It was know who your character is.
I could tell you to go [ __ ] your mother
18 different ways.
Right.
>> Right.
>> So it's the same thing. You have to just
learn not the words but what he's trying
to say in there. You don't need the
words. The words are [ __ ] What is
this guy trying to say in there? Yeah,
you take some of the sentences that he's
saying, but you slow it down. And that's
what he did in that scene when he tells
everybody if my son should hang by a
bolt of lightning,
you then Marlon Brando in the hotel
scene. That's a beautiful [ __ ] scene.
If you love that [ __ ] like I do, all
those [ __ ] were wearing signs.
You've seen the the the behind the
scenes of that.
>> So the the their words, the script was
>> were on papers. So Duval was sitting
across from him with a billboard.
>> That's hilarious.
>> That boss was sitting across from and
you see him like he just look up
and that I will not forgive and he take
another pause and look at another Q card
and and because he wanted it to be
organic.
>> He didn't want it to sound like those
[ __ ] lines this writer wrote,
>> right?
>> And that's for everything. If you know
the character, I know the character. I
know me.
>> See, that's crazy. [laughter]
>> Everybody had science, dog. That is
really crazy.
>> But it is crazy.
>> Did it work
>> in The Godfather? Did it work? Okay, so
go [ __ ] yourself. It
>> was watching this thing where they were
very skeptical about him playing.
>> Oh, did you see the Sony thing?
>> Yeah.
>> The Sony series. Very good.
>> Yeah. Very good. Yeah. What an
interesting Imagine skeptical about
Marlon Brando playing the Godfather.
Well, brother, he had shot a movie,
Beutiny on the Bounty, and they went
down there, and the [ __ ] [ __ ]
that chick, and he wasn't even directing
anymore. He was in a hut. He gave like
the ad, the camera. You didn't hear
about that?
>> Yeah.
>> That's a huge story.
>> But that's Apocalypse Now, right?
>> No. And then Apocalypse Now, he went to
a meeting. They gave him all this loot
and they told him, "You got to show up
180." Like, you're supposed to be a
Green Beret,
>> right?
>> He showed up 400.
>> Well, that's why they kept him in the
dark, right? that they kept him in the
dark and they shaved black shirt, you
know, he didn't give a [ __ ] He did it
however and that's why they hated him.
But at the same time, you got to love
the [ __ ] cuz it's working.
>> Yeah. Well, it was authentic, right?
>> Yeah. That Apple TV show was very
interesting.
>> It was
>> very And I I met that dude. Remember, he
created The Longest Yard. Al Ruddy did
the longest yard from scratch. When he
did the Godfather,
I think he didn't take two and he went
to do the longest yard. He loved it. So,
he created the longest yard. So, when we
shot our longest yard, he was there
every Friday for his little checky poo.
Big [ __ ] Big dude, dog. Good
dude. Big hands and [ __ ] Would just
talk to you about stuff. Good dude. So,
I got it like that [ __ ] you
know, be buddy. And I think he did
something else after that. Look at the
movies he did. Look at the movies here.
Jamie, when you get a minute, Paul
Rudy's films.
>> What was that other question that had
asked you earlier
>> about
>> I asked you to look something up? Forget
>> a DJ in Omaha.
>> Yes, Omaha.
>> Yes, Omaha. He was from Omaha.
>> That's what it is.
>> What radio station?
>> Is he still doing it?
>> Yeah, it says he currently is.
>> He currently is still. Look at that. We
got to call him. I think he fought
recently. I think he had a fight like
within the last couple of years.
>> Did he?
>> This says 2017 for MMA
box. Bare knuckle boxing in 2023.
>> That's it.
>> Yeah.
>> Won all four of his bare knuckle fights.
>> Yeah.
>> Bare knuckle fighting. Dude's a DJ. UFC
veteran. Said, "Fuck it. Let's get some
bare knuckle fights in."
>> How [ __ ] great is that that you could
DJ and then go fight somebody on
>> Crazy. Yeah.
>> And that's life, man. That's a life
that's worth living. You got your money.
You're getting your money's worth.
You're getting your money's worth. You
want to sit at home, be senary,
whatever. Live like, you know, watching
TV and you're scared they're going to
bomb you. You're done. You got to keep
[ __ ] living. That's what you know.
>> Yeah. You got to do things. That's the
thing about life. You got to do things.
Too many people just sit around wanting
to do things and not doing anything.
It's hard to get moving, though. That's
what a lot of people find. They find
it's hard to like go out to that club
for that first open mic, step into that
gym the first time. Like D-Rod, uh
Daniel Rodriguez, did you see that
podcast? We talked about how he got
arrested in Tijana.
>> You know D-Rod from the UFC?
>> Yeah.
>> So D-Rod uh beats Kevin Holland, right?
Goes to uh San Diego celebrating and his
boys like, "Let's go to Tijuana." [ __ ]
yeah. Let's go to Tijuana. Just go to
drink, have a good time. Just won a huge
fight. top 15 UFC welterweight
has an ounce of weed in his bag. He
thinks, "Well, weed's legal in
California. Weed's decriminalized in
Mexico. Who cares? Maybe I'll bribe
somebody. I'll get out of this." It's a
federal offense to bring weed in. And
even though weed's decriminalized in
Mexico, it's not for visitors. It's only
for Mexican citizens.
>> Yeah, bro.
>> How do you get out of that one?
>> Well, one of the things he had to do is
become a Mexican citizen. [snorts]
So he's got dual citizenship now. Yeah.
He was in jail for [ __ ] eight months,
man.
>> Oh my god.
>> Yeah. He was just training in jail. He
looks great. He looks great now, but
when he got out, he was he's like, I had
no protein. So I'm in there working out
every day with [ __ ] eating noodles
and and potato chips.
>> No protein.
>> No protein. And so he he got real thin.
Like he showed a photo of him like the
day he got out. I mean, this
[ __ ] was training every day,
twice a day in jail. He's like, I'm
going to make the most out of this. But
it's he has no food. The food's
terrible. So his body had wasted away.
>> I think I used to get protein.
>> He couldn't. He asked. He tried to get
it. He said, "You get girls, you get all
these different things." He goes, "He
couldn't get [ __ ] good food
>> in Mexico."
>> In Mexico. Yeah.
>> And he was a cellmate with a cartel guy.
The cartel guy took care of him. The
cartel guy recognized him. Look, we'll
take care of you. Hang out with us. And
he just said, "I'm going to keep my nose
down. Just train." But he said he got a
bunch of guys training with him because
they they were inspired. They're like,
"Fuck yeah, let's train with D-Rod." So
he had he had all these guys in there.
He said some of them were [ __ ]
talented. Prison's fun. [laughter] I
don't give a [ __ ] what anybody tells
you. Once you get to your destination
and you meet your homies and you create
a little thing, it's like anything else.
We just can't step out the walls. But
you make it happen. Like I laughed a lot
in there, bro. I laughed.
>> I bet you did.
>> Because nobody's funnier in prison than
black people. I don't give a [ __ ] what
they tell you. They're the true kings of
the prison system. And I had the two
best. I had I was I had the two best.
And you know sometimes that
>> that's where you first did stand up,
right?
>> First did stand up just for the inmates.
>> Yeah. Wednesday, Thursday night.
>> They just talk some [ __ ]
>> during the movies. They would go, "This
movie sucks." They would be like PT 109,
you know? We don't want to see [ __ ]
Kennedy in a movie. Get up there, Cuba.
And I would just go up there and [ __ ]
around and it
>> it was nothing that was I ever thought
about anything. Like I You said
something before thinking about the
first time you went to that open mic.
Boy, was that scary for me.
>> Terrifying.
>> Took me eight months. I was such a
[ __ ] I would call the Comedy Works in
Denver every week and every week I'd
cancel Dem. Oh, I don't feel good. And
then my ex-wife, God bless, as much as I
hate her, she heard me on the phone and
she has her mother to babysit. And she
drove me down and I got on stage. I
remember getting off that stage going,
"How am I going to do this? I'm married
with a kid." And three months later, she
came home. She's like, "You're a loser.
I don't want to be married to you no
more." I'm like, "Yes." [laughter] Holy
[ __ ] you just did me [ __ ] solid.
Then she did me shitty afterward, but
the point is she at least got me to that
open mic. So, I have to be grateful for
something that she did. You know,
>> it's the hard the first step's the hard
one. You know what I was saying about
D-Rod, like the first time he ever went
to the gym, his uh girlfriend got him a
membership. She was like, he's cuz he
drove by it a bunch of times. He thought
about training, never went in. you had a
bunch of street fights, never went in.
He's like, "I think I could do that."
And then finally, she's like, "Look, I
got your present. I got your
membership."
>> Hold that thought. Can I go pee real
quick? We're at the 2our mark.
>> We'll be right back.
>> We'll be right back. I got to go pee.
>> And
we're back.
>> That was a tremendous pee. [laughter] Oh
my god.
>> Cuz the worst is when you try to
concentrate and you have to piss like
>> No, that's the worst.
>> You can't fall.
>> That's the [ __ ] worst. When you have
to drive and [ __ ] you got to pee. And
I'm to an age I just pull over.
>> Yeah. So
>> highway, whatever. I pull I open up the
both doors and I make believe I'm
looking for something and that dick is
out peeing like I pee on the little leaf
field and now I got after surgery they
gave me a handicap sparking. I'm living
like a doctor. You don't know what life
is until you have handicap parking dog.
You just pull right up and pick a spot.
>> Always.
>> Yeah.
>> Like 4 feet away. When I got in the
mail, dog, I was happier. That made me
so happy. [ __ ] walking. When I go to
events now in Philadelphia, I just pull
up and [ __ ] put a neck brace on, walk
out and [ __ ] Oh, it's been beautiful.
Joe,
>> what do you have to do to get one of
those?
>> The doctor,
>> that's it. So,
>> the doctor was like, "Oh, do you have it
after surgery? I get a feed for 6
months."
>> And then he goes, "Hold on one second."
He went online. He's like, "Dog, you
qualify for everything. You got
everything on this list. Everything.
Go." And they gave it to me for [ __ ]
like 3 years.
>> Oh, nice.
>> Yeah, I [ __ ] Oh, tremendous. Joe,
>> how does it feel right now? You're all
right.
>> Yeah, it feels okay. I just listen, what
happens is you do something every week.
Like the second week I went, third week
I went couple weeks I went boxing and it
was good for like three times. And one
day I went and I had a plan 25 minutes,
eight rounds on the bag or the speed
bag, but I do the bags and I alternate
the bags. Sure enough, round number six,
one of the guys comes over. He goes,
"Joey, let's hit the mids." I'm excited.
You know, he's a young guy. Let's do it.
I left. My [ __ ] leg blew up from that
right punch to cross cuz everything
walks into it.
>> You're also moving around with
>> You're moving around. So, I said, "Fuck
it. Now I got to stand in front of the
bag." So, I learned my lesson.
>> And then last week, I went to PT and
that [ __ ] had me. I mean, I love
him, but TJ, this [ __ ] had me
doing deadl lifts and wall squats with a
thing with your weight on the back and
you go all the way.
>> So, it's all just to strengthen the
muscles back.
>> You have to You have to strengthen. But
I prepped. I listened to you guys. I,
you know, I did everything I could
before the surgery. That's what made it
easier. Made a lot easier. I called you.
I told you I was doing [ __ ] in 5 days. I
didn't have a cane no more. You know, I
was done. I I started driving at 8 days.
Not because I couldn't, but because I
was sick and tired of my wife driving me
places
>> and I got to, you know, argue with her
in the right hand lane.
>> No problem.
>> Yeah. Like a [ __ ]
>> Wow. That's crazy.
>> So, it was the right foot, which is the
accelerated brake combo. So, yeah.
>> But, yeah, I was out of the house. You
know, the pain pills were done after 8
days. Then I had to bring them back for
PT. They were [ __ ] killing me after
PT. So after PT, you pop one, go home,
put ice on it, rub it down with the
cream, and stay off it for an hour or
two, but then at night, I take a walk
around the neighborhood. You could
you're trying to strengthen this [ __ ]
>> right?
>> You know, we're talking about it
outside. Let's let's say you're in a
hospital for 5 days and you eat cereal
for five [ __ ] days. You gain weight,
>> your muscle breaks down and goes away.
Like five days, stay in a hospital. It
could [ __ ] kill you just because,
again, there's not that much protein.
You're not getting 150 grams of protein
a day. You're not moving
>> and you're not moving. So [snorts]
>> that's the big one.
>> I prepped for [clears throat] the
surgery. I took all the supplements ways
to well told me everything. Besarine. I
took [ __ ] My [ __ ] piss is like glows
in the dark at night. Purple [snorts]
yellow. It's [ __ ] amazing. I did all
my PTS, all my BPC's 157, all my TB500s.
I did them for [ __ ] to the tea like
they told me to. And you know, listen,
I'm 63 and it's a 63 year old knee. So,
I don't expect to be in the UFC fighting
no Gary next week, but I could walk
around and enjoy life with no [ __ ]
pain. Or no, it's not pain. It's like
you always have an issue. You know it.
>> Yeah.
>> You always have that thing with your
knees. Sometimes it sticks. Well, then
you got to do simple [ __ ] You got to
get your a piece of paper, put on the
floor, and just roll your heel back and
forth 20 times and do kicks when you're
sitting around. All those things help
the knee. You get that band and you put
it around your leg and you just
straighten out your leg. I do that at
home. This is [ __ ] I do at home, you
know, instead of watching TV. It takes
15 [ __ ] minutes. 15 [ __ ] minutes
of your time. And I got the bull worker.
They sent me a bull worker.
>> What's that? [clears throat]
>> The thing I told you last time about
it's isometric [ __ ]
>> Oh, okay.
>> So, I did the bull work. I did the
deadlifts at the bull worker. Now I'm
[ __ ] cuz I don't know how to change
the strings. So, I got to learn how to
[ __ ] change the strings. But that's
all it was. It was preparing for the
surgery,
>> right? You can't just go in there and
not strengthen the little muscles around
the area. Yeah,
>> that's it.
>> Yeah, you got to do something. It's very
important, especially if you're going to
go into surgery. I know a lot of people
that have had knee surgery and didn't do
that. And it's a big
>> They won't go to PT. It's like, you
don't go to PT. What the [ __ ] is wrong
with you?
>> Yeah,
>> that's They came Listen, I had the
surgery Thursday. Went in my house
knocking Friday [ __ ] afternoon. I was
home Friday from the hospital and they
said, "They're coming over today.
That [ __ ] had me going up and
downstairs, walking outside with the
cane, getting in and out of the tub. He
was I don't even have a tub. I have a
walking shower. But he was like, I'm
going to do everything with you. So, it
was pretty [ __ ] like I said, this
surgery was a lot better. The company
that I did business with was a lot
better. Last time I did it at Sennate,
that's like a medical network in New
Jersey. Not bad. They have a great
facility there. But you know when I went
to do the surgery, my acupuncturist
said, "When you go talk to that guy the
day before the surgery, ask him about
the sanitary conditions at the
hospital."
So when I went, I said, "Hey, what's the
sanitary conditions at the hospital?"
He's like, "Ah, you hear rumors.
And then when I went for the surgery,
they prepped me up. They gave me
everything. They gave me the IV. They
were right about to do that thinging you
right back." And he said, "We're not
doing the surgery. I don't agree with
sanit." I was pissed, but I'm like
happy. I could have ended up
>> Doctor didn't agree with the sanitary
conditions.
>> He came out and said, "Oh, no, not
today. We'll do it next week at a
different hospital."
>> What?
>> Yeah,
>> that's So, what were people getting
Mercer or something?
>> Something that Mercer in there, and
they're like, "No." Everybody was
telling me, "Be careful with the Mercer
in that hospital."
>> Oh, Mercer is [ __ ] terrifying.
>> But the funny thing was he gave me a 20
milligram oxy, which they never gave
you.
>> That's a strong [ __ ] And I
forgot I took it. Remember I told you? I
forgot. I'm in a Chinese restaurant
yelling Gino. I'm like, what [laughter]
the [ __ ] is wrong with me? Oh [ __ ] I
took that 20. I was [ __ ] up for 8
hours on that thing.
>> So they give it to you before the
surgery?
>> Yeah, just one other precocion. They did
that. The
>> a precaution.
>> Yeah, precaution. Whatever the [ __ ]
[laughter]
So you don't wake up in the middle of
surgery yelling and [ __ ] screaming
like a [ __ ]
They do that. The epidural. The epidural
was tough because I felt it in my nut
sack. Like they give you a couple shots
and one of the shots made me actually go
like this cuz I felt it on the bottom
towards the end of the nut sack. Not the
meat potatoes part but towards the end
close to the muffler.
[laughter]
>> I was like this is not bueno dog.
>> What is the thing they do? Uh I I saw
this video online about it. It's like I
think it's called nerve ablation. I
might be making that up, but they they
literally like cut the nerves off when
people have back pain. Like some people
with back pain, it's like they're in
constant nerve pain and they were
showing how they just snip the nerves
and I was like, "Wait, wait a minute.
Could is that hinder your movement? Like
what is what happens there? Is this it?"
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. So, what is that? Radio frequency
ablation for back pain management. What
does it mean? Like what does that what
do they do? Cuz the way I was looking at
online, I'm like, it looks like they
just cut the nerves. A minimally
invasive outpatient procedure uses heat
to intentionally damage nerves carrying
pain signals from the spine to the
brain. Primarily provides long lasting
relief for chronic back pain caused by
arthritis or facet joint degeneration.
Wow. But does does that mean your back
just keeps getting worse, but you don't
feel it?
What happens when you do that? Duration
back, please. Uh, the procedure
typically takes 30 to 60 minutes. You
could usually go home the same day. Pain
relief is not immediate. Often takes 1
to 3 weeks for the nerve to fully
settle. Relief typically lasts anywhere
from 6 to 12 months. Although it can
last for several years for some
patients. Are the nerves permanently
destroyed? No. The nerves regenerate
over time. When the nerve grows back,
your pain may return, but the procedure
can be repeated.
What is the recovery and risks? What's
the risks? Uh, complications are rare
but include infection, bleeding at the
insertion site, temporary numbness, or
skin irritation. Oh, normal stuff. Huh.
Interesting. Pain. That's nuts, man.
Just shut off the pain. You kind of want
to know if it hurts, though. No, I would
imagine like you're doing more damage if
you're if it hurts,
>> right?
>> It's like cortisol. you're numbing it,
right?
>> And then it keeps getting worse, but you
don't feel
>> Well, especially cortisone. With
cortisone, you can only do that so many
times for like joints like it can
degrade tendons and stuff cuz some
people their knuckleheads, they just
keep getting cortisone shots. Next thing
you know, your shoulder falls apart.
>> Yeah. You don't know. That's the worst
thing.
>> Yeah. You could tear tear.
>> That's what they'll let you do if you
let them. So, this is what I'm saying.
Unless you check out what option Listen,
it's 2026, man.
>> I'm scared of needles. And I'll tell
you, half my life I [ __ ] up because I
was scared of needles. If I would have
just I don't know what it was. I was
just scared of needles. Now I'll [ __ ]
take a needle wherever the [ __ ] you want
to give it to them. [laughter]
>> You know what I'm saying? Like now you
can shoot me while I'm standing up. I
don't
>> Once you get used to doing peptides,
needles don't mean [ __ ]
>> And those are diabetic needles. They
don't do [ __ ]
>> It's like It's good to stop taking
medicine if you don't want to.
>> Ah, that makes sense. So [clears throat]
if you're in pain anyway. So a success
rate is 70 to 85%.
It's most stressful when the procedure
targets the medial branch nerves
responsible for facet joint arthritis.
Success typically refi defined as 50% or
greater reduction in lower back pain. U
better physical function. Reduced need
for pain medication. That's big because
some people they're just [ __ ] in
especially back stuff. Some people are
just in agony every day. they wake up
and they're just in agony and it's a
long road back, you know, to get in. If
you have back pain, it's a long road to
heal that [ __ ] And you got to be very,
very smart about it. And you got to
stretch. That's one thing that a lot of
people don't like to do. A lot of lower
back pain. You a lot of that is just
everything's tight and you can stretch
and relieve a lot of that [ __ ] A lot of
that.
>> Yoga comes in handy. You don't go
anymore, do you? You don't go anymore.
>> I do a lot of yoga things though. a
house.
>> I haven't. Yeah, we actually have a yoga
room in the studio. I've never used it.
We got a heated room. We could crank
that [ __ ] up to 105 degrees and do
>> I haven't done the red light. I'll tell
you what else I did after the surgery
that worked. The hyperbaric chamber.
>> Oh yeah, that's big.
>> I did that twice a week. I still got
>> for recovery. For recovery, that's
fantastic.
>> And my oxygen levels are always low.
Joe, I got to figure I got to talk to
ways too well tomorrow. Every morning I
wake up 88%. You know, I'm always in the
red zone. I got to cuz I think lack of
oxygen is helping me burn fat and a lot
of other [ __ ] I My oxygen's at 88 some
days. 8 [ __ ] five.
>> Why would that help you burn fat?
>> Because you need oxygen to do
everything. You need oxygen for a
[ __ ] fire.
>> So if you have low oxygen, you burn fat.
>> How can you recuperate? How can you
fully recuperate with no oxygen in your
[ __ ] I think I don't [ __ ] know.
I'm not sure that's correct, but I think
that
um the more you exercise, the more
you're going to get oxygen in your
system for sure. Hyprobaric pain chamber
will help, but once you're like fully
healed up and you can really exercise on
a regular basis, it'll get back to
normal. [snorts]
>> No, because I do breath exercise every
morning. That's what you have to do. You
have to breathe through your nose like
10 times and then hold it and then I
take the
>> What do they think is causing it? The
low oxygen.
>> They don't know.
>> They don't know.
>> They don't know nothing. They don't know
nothing. They don't want to find out
nothing.
>> But I'll take the cord and the the clip
that you put on your finger and put on
my ear. It gives you a better read.
[laughter]
>> What's more accurate
>> so far? The ear for me. I learned that
from an old Filipino lady. Oh yeah.
>> In the hospital. She had all the tricks.
>> So I do that. I test it. You know, when
I wake up in the morning, I have it. I
check my blood pressure like twice a
day. It's the best it's been in 20
[ __ ] years.
>> I think some of those Fitbits can do
that [ __ ] now. Can they do that? What
>> do they measure oxygen levels?
>> Some of those um really advanced
wearable devices can measure oxygen
levels too now I think. Are they Is that
real?
>> Or is it?
>> Yeah. Yeah, they all do. They all do.
That's part of the deal. They measure
your uh heart rate heart rate variable
>> like those wearables like the wrist
stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, really?
>> So, I'll tell you what I got in mine. I
got uh
the [ __ ] in the mornings. It tells you.
>> What are you wearing? A Whoop.
>> Whoop. Yeah. Within
>> It does that. The Whoop tests oxygen
levels.
>> No,
it has respiratory rate.
>> I got to get back on the Whoop. I used
to use it all the time, but they got
they've gotten even better.
>> Yeah, they This one is a lot better. My
heart rate's good today. My oxygen is 91
because I'm here with you.
>> And my uh skin temperature is minus one.
So, it texts all that [ __ ] I uh my
problem with wearables is all these
tattoos. So like this. Oh, okay. It's
reading it now. This reads my heart
rate. This is a Garmin. It reads my
heart rate some. All right. Now it's not
like it doesn't read through the tattoos
very well. I have to like move it around
[snorts] to get
>> [ __ ] insane.
>> Yeah,
>> that's [ __ ] insane.
>> You can't read through the tattoos
because the ink's in the way. Doesn't,
you know, it's it's it's literally using
some sort of a visual um system. It's
like it's light. Like if you look at the
back of the watch, there's a there's
like a light back there. See?
>> Yeah. I have the same.
>> So that is flashing into your uh veins
and then it somehow or another gets
information from that and that's how it
tells you the same thing.
>> Yeah. So the problem is all these
tattoos I thought about like removing my
tattoos just around the whole the circle
where the watch goes just like go get it
lasered. I might do it because I don't
see that anyway. I'm always No,
>> I always have a watch on and so like now
it's reading.
>> They're speaking about, you know,
burning your nerves and all that [ __ ]
and that thing that
>> I remember one year I had a fung I still
got a fungi toenail but I had the really
bad fungi toenail and I saw a thing in
group on for a company in Studio City
that blowtorched it with heat for six
sessions.
>> It kill the fungus.
>> Yeah. No, it never worked but I went
anyway. And the lady would put like a
mask on, would [laughter] [ __ ] And
she'd look at my toe like you would see
a [ __ ] And as she was burning it, you
could smell the fungus burning. It
smells like dead [ __ ] [ __ ]
>> And she would be there and I would ask
her questions so she'd have to pull the
mats off, [laughter]
take a whiff of this [ __ ] fungi
toenail. Oh, there's times I buff it out
myself now cuz nobody will buff it out
for me. Like I can't take it to a
Chinese woman. They'll lose their mind.
>> Can you put like antifungus cream on it?
>> I put everything on it. It's too deep.
It just fungus runs deep. This is
[laughter] This is the fungus I brought
back from Cuba. It and it's it [ __ ]
pops up from time to time. I get under
my tit like it just the fungus just
grows. I don't know what I have to eat.
Like some days I eat something and it
backfires and I get all these fungus
marks. I get all itchy and [ __ ] out of a
creep. [laughter]
But this [ __ ] burnt that toe for six
weeks. And every week I would ask her
more creepy questions. [laughter] She
would have to take that mask off and
smell that fungus. Dog. It was horrible.
When [laughter] she would walk out, she
closed the door like I was like, "Nope."
And the thing never worked. She never
burned me once. But she was serious with
that blow torch.
>> It didn't work.
>> No, it did nothing. I told you the
fungus is too deep. So they to get rid
of that, you have to do a liver test to
see how strong cuz the zapping is
[ __ ] hard on your body and it's
really hard on your liver. So my liver
didn't cut it, so they can't zap me with
that medication.
>> Did you hear about that lady who had
Alzheimer's, she couldn't talk anymore.
They gave her five grams of psilocybin
mushrooms
>> and she's singing opera now.
>> All a sudden she came back. Started
talking.
>> They said she hadn't talked in a long
time. She could remember things.
I know for a fact I got a good buddy of
mine that stuted. That was his childhood
thing. Every time he smoked crack, you
should have seen that [ __ ] Not
a strut in there. He talks to you
straight.
>> Paul, you know Paul Stamuts, the
mushroom expert. He's been on this
podcast many times. He's an illegitimate
micologist, like a scientist.
>> He had a horrible stutter when he was a
kid. Took 10 grams.
>> Gone.
>> Gone.
>> Gone. It's unreal. And people will still
go, "Nah, mushrooms are deadly. They're
going to kill you. [ __ ] you."
>> Isn't that crazy? You need to see the
devil every once in a while in your
life. And that's what people don't. They
don't see the downside because eating
those mushrooms from time to time makes
you step out like THC does and makes you
look at yourself and make like a
judgment call on what the [ __ ] you're
doing with your life.
>> What are you doing with your life? Are
you chewing that [ __ ] zin and talking
at the same time?
>> Yeah. I I don't know. I don't have big
enough [ __ ] gums, I guess. I don't
know. Don't stay there.
>> Yeah. It's the the real problem is that
it's illegal. You know what they should
do with that? You know what they did
with Colorado with 39% tax? Make
mushrooms 100%. Tax it 100%. We'll still
buy them. People will still buy. Make it
legal. Tax it 100%. You know how much
[ __ ] money they would generate. And I
guarantee you Well, I was going to say
people wouldn't be doing more mushrooms,
but they definitely would
>> if you' be good for everybody.
>> Listen, the only thing that stalls
people from mushrooms is the taste. Most
people put it in the grinder and then
they put it in capsules and they do it
that way. All different things.
>> That should not be a hurdle in 2026. You
told me you were going to get that
property a couple years ago, which you
didn't get.
>> Mhm.
>> I thought you were going to grow
mushrooms out there.
>> Like get somebody to set it up and Joe
Rogan's mushrooms.
>> Why? I would never do that
>> with your [ __ ] recipe. Like
>> no, it's that's that's not legal. I
would [snorts] uh it's not legal any
federally. That's the problem. I mean,
this is part of what Trump is trying to
change with this psychedelics act.
>> So all that [ __ ] was made illegal in
1970. It was the Nixon administration,
the Controlled Substances Act. If that
hadn't happened in 1970, we would be
living in a better world. Like
legitimately, we would be living in a
better world. You'd have way more people
having access to this stuff. Way more
people that could get over whatever the
[ __ ] their hurdle is, whatever problem
they have, whatever it is. It's not for
everybody. There's a lot of people that
shouldn't do it. There's a lot of people
that are schizophrenic and that they
just need one mushroom trip and they're
gone and they're never coming back.
There's a lot of people that are hanging
on. They're hanging on. And one edible,
>> one mushroom trip, one one one meeting
with the devil and they never come back.
That's true. But those people were
already [ __ ] That's the problem. But
for the rest of us, for the rest of the
world, which is like most things, like
some people eat a Brazil nut, they're
dead, right? Some people eat peanuts and
they're dead. They have a deadly allergy
to peanuts. I could eat peanuts all day
long.
>> Can you look up how many people die
every year from [ __ ] peanuts?
>> It's quite a few.
>> Come on.
>> Yeah, it's quite a few. It's kind of
shocking. Some
>> Why?
>> Well, here's the really crazy thing.
[snorts] A lot of people think it has to
do with vaccines. They think, this is
Brett Weinstein's proposal, is that when
you take that vaccine, so there's
aluminum in the vaccine that's an
irritant, right? And this is what fires
up your immune system. And then there's
the dead virus. So your body develops
these
>> anti one to four annually. Give me
>> a lot of people.
>> Huh?
>> It's a lot of people.
>> No. Four people.
>> Four whole people. What about in the
world? How many people die for about
It's four in the world cuz none of them
die anywhere else.
>> Food allergies in general responsible
about 100 deaths.
>> Yeah. This this all made up white people
[ __ ]
>> Well, there's a few people though that
just avoid the peanuts. But there are
people that if they get peanuts they'll
die. Brett Weinstein thinks it has to do
with eating peanuts right after you've
been vaccinated and that something I
don't know if he's right but something
about your body reacting is the reason
why your body creates this antibbody to
the dead v the dead virus that's in the
vaccine. You know, if you give someone
um whatever it is, any figure out
whatever the disease is, you have a dead
virus and then you have this irritant.
And so the two of them together, your
body reacts to this aluminum and it used
to be um um what is the other [ __ ] they
don't put in it? There was mercury,
ethyl mercury and methyl mercury. The
two different types of mercury they've
tried to do that in vaccines, but
there's problems with that, too.
Obviously, mercury is toxic. So is
aluminum. But he thinks that if you have
aluminum from this vaccine and you're in
contact with other things at the same
time, you could develop an an allergy
for those things, whether it's wheat,
gluten, whether it's animals, whatever
it is. Like it's possible, he believes,
to develop an allergy when you get
vaccinated. And he thinks that's with
the rise in vaccines and the rise in
food allergies, he thinks those are
connected.
>> Let me ask you this.
>> I don't know if he's right. If you went
to your great your grandfather in
Newark, he's an immigrant and came over
and you told him you had a peanut
allergy, how many times would he smack
you in [clears throat] the [ __ ] face?
>> Well, he wasn't a violent man. He was
great,
>> but still he go, "Joe, what the [ __ ]
Peanuts?"
>> He would make fun of it.
>> I grew up on pine nuts every [ __ ]
day. Two pine nuts. I'm
>> I was loyal to maple syrup.
>> Well, the idea of being allergic to
bread back then was preposterous. First
of all, he would get bread like every
two days. They would go down to the
local Italian bakery and buy Italian
bread. That's the only bread everybody
ate in the house.
>> It's so funny. Like I didn't even
appreciate it back then. Like when I'd
have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich,
I'd be like, "Why do they give it to me
on this [ __ ] thick bread?" Cuz you
got to cut the bread. Yeah. You know,
I'd be like, "Give me some [ __ ] white
bread." Like a real person.
>> Well, some Wonderbread. That's what I
wanted. When you're a kid, you want
Wonderbread.
>> I love Wonder.
>> Peanut butter and jelly sandwich on a
like I'd get whole wheat. I'd be like,
"What is this horseshit?"
>> I think you'd be in prison. What is this
terrible [ __ ] shitty brand filled
wheat with [snorts] all the the [ __ ]
chunks of wheat that's in it? Get the
[ __ ] out of here with your whole wheat
bread. I hated it. Now I love it. Now
it's the only like if I see like regular
white bread, I'm like never eat.
>> Let me ask you this. That bread that
your grandfather was getting.
>> Yeah.
>> In Hoboka in Newark.
>> Newark.
>> Two blocks away. They were old school
Italian people.
>> They made everything in the 70s and 60s
with all the [ __ ] that's in now.
>> I remember the bags. Yeah. White paper.
paper bag.
>> Yeah. And the the fresh tasted great
phenomen [ __ ] great with a piece of
butter. When you dip it in the pasta
sauce in the red sauce, you go [ __ ]
crazy.
>> So good with butter. You put butter on
that bread and you dip it in that pasta
sauce. Holy [ __ ]
>> So I got to stop eating muscles.
>> All right. That's my favorite dish.
Muscles with spicy with medium. Yeah.
Because you can eat a loaf of bread. I
can't. My body can't [ __ ] do that no
more.
>> Especially with the red sauce.
>> Oh, a loaf of bread. Oh, they'll go
through the whole loaf
>> with the butter or the olive oil on the
bread. You need all that [ __ ] I said I
can't eat muscles no more. I love
muscles.
>> I go to Rudy's. I got some muscles.
They're big. They look like a [ __ ]
chick a six look like a sixoot woman's
[ __ ] They're that [ __ ] big
[laughter] the muscles. You think I'm
kidding you? These [ __ ] [ __ ] muscles.
When I go to other restaurants, you get
those little muscles, then you get a
couple big ones. No, no, no. They give
you nine big chick gorilla raised
[ __ ] [ __ ] clits and they're
[laughter] huge and they put a little
sauce on it.
>> So good.
>> Oh my god. Makes me go [ __ ]
>> There was a Thai place that I used to go
to in LA. Thai food and they had muscles
and big [ __ ] spicy muscles. They were
huge.
>> So good. Oh,
>> not the tie place Eddie took me to. The
one next to the [ __ ] tent planet on
on Labraa.
>> Oh yeah. I went in there with Eddie one
night and I already hate Thai food.
Eddie, come on. I'll buy you lunch. I'm
broke.
>> You don't like Thai food?
>> I went in there, there was ants on the
wall. [laughter]
>> I'm like, "What the fuck?" But I like uh
the one that you took your shoes off.
They had the best shrimp pate in the
country.
>> You took your shoes off?
>> Yeah. There's one on Sunset right across
from the comic book store.
>> Toy
>> toy.
>> Oh, Toy Tie. Toy. Oh, that place legit.
>> Solid place.
>> Very good place. The best place ever was
what's the place next to the Laugh
Factory?
>> Green Blast Del.
>> Green Blast Del.
>> Oh, that was that was a great joint
>> until I tell you this story. I'm in
there with Ralphie May one day and he
gets a roast beef sandwich
>> and he's eating the roast beef and I
could see the ants on his arm
>> and he opens it up and there's ants all
over the sandwich. Listen to me. He
called the waiter. The waiter still
charging for half a sandwich. [groaning]
>> That's hilarious.
>> I was like, he's like, I ain't paying
[ __ ] This [ __ ] had ants on it.
I didn't even eat the other one. The
ants were on his [ __ ] arm. Joe,
>> they weren't in the sandwich. They were
on
>> They were in the sandwich, too.
>> Oh, so it was just all over the place.
>> It were all over the place.
>> Green blats.
>> Green blats, which I'll still eat that.
I don't I don't even think it's
>> What is that?
>> I only ate there a few times, which is
weird because it was right next door to
the Laugh Factory.
>> It was good, too.
>> I kind of stopped going to the Laugh
Factory after a certain point. It was a
certain point in like the 2000s where
I'm like, I think I'm done with this
place. And I was mostly at the store.
>> Yeah, I like the Laugh Factory and I
like the improv.
>> I was like at the store. I love the
improv still. I always did the improv
still, but the Laugh Factory to me was
like there was something about it that
was like sterile. There was something
about it. Not a bad thing, but it was
like very much like a lot of people got
TV deals out of the big different kind
of comedy.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, it was uh the store was the
dream. You know, the Laugh Factor was
nice and everything, but then it was
also like, you remember Scott Day? He
would discourage, he would try to
discourage you from going to the Laugh
Factory. He's like, "You're a comedy
store comic. You're not laugh." I'm
like, "Listen, man. I got to go up
everywhere. I can't I'm developing. I
can't be just limiting myself to one."
>> But after a while, you're like, I
develop better at the store.
>> Well, this thing about the store too,
you got three totally different
environments. You got the belly room
environment, which is like very
intimate, very small, 70 people. And
then you got the O, which is the gritty.
That's that's the psychopaths at 11:30
on a [ __ ] Tuesday night. And then you
got the main room, which is the big
show. There was so much opportunity.
>> I [ __ ] always hated the main room for
the last 5 years I was there. I just
couldn't get the formula for it. But the
original room, I knew it like
everything.
>> The original room, you're locked into a
living room.
>> You're locked into it. And that's and
then the piano and the whole [ __ ]
thing.
>> The main room was big, big stage, big
crowd. It was big ceiling. Everything
was big. It was different. It was a
different kind of a show.
>> Remember the first time I showcased for
Jamie? He's like, "Man, what are you
doing here? You belong in Las Vegas,
man, in a showroom. You're not an LA
comic." That's hilarious. [ __ ]
>> Jaime always had the craziest ideas for
people.
>> But he at the end, he was a really good
guy. At the end of the day, he really
tried hard. Well, he loved comedy.
>> Yeah, he loved comedy. All those people
were very nice. You know, I just went to
Nashville for the comedy festival.
>> Uhhuh.
>> And I ended up doing the Old Osprey. You
know that theater there. What's the name
of the theater?
>> Randol Opry.
>> Yeah.
>> And it was great. But the great thing
about that that everybody from the
improv was there last night. I saw
people that were there for 25 years and
we just were dropping stories. Aaron,
the guy Hartman, Hartman looks great.
He's a big peptide guy, big everything
guy. He lives in Nashville. Uh Joel from
Florida.
>> Oh,
>> you know when you get to see those guys
and you're like, "Wow, we've been in
this [ __ ] together
>> forever."
>> Like I told Aaron, I met Aaron in
Irvine. Then she came to Hollywood and I
was like psyched cuz she gave us an
11:00 show and she was pregnant. She was
hot. She used to wear the farmer those
things that
>> overalls.
>> The overalls. Oh, she [laughter] was so
hot. I still tell them when I talk to I
always tell Aaron you sexy savage. I
always [ __ ] torment her. But it was
really nice to see them and everything
you know Harmon me told the story when I
told him I was going to bang his head
off the wall. You know just craziness
that look at us now. We're all in there
having a great time. 20 years ago we
were always at war with one of you guys.
We cursed too much. You know we were
talking about when I got fired with
Pablo.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And then he found out I wasn't doing
coke and he felt really bad, you know.
So,
>> it was uh it was just great to see what
we've been through together. And now
after everything, you're like, "Fuck." I
was there the [ __ ] night Joel
started.
>> That was in Miami, right?
>> That was in Miami 98.
>> New Year's of 99.
>> That's crazy.
>> And Madonna came in with Chris [ __ ]
rock.
>> Wow. and to watch somebody New Year's
Eve. I forget who the [ __ ] it was, but
yeah, that's you look at those people
like we took the ride. We were kids. We
were [ __ ] kids together.
>> And also, you have to think like imagine
having to
employ you. Imagine being a businessman
and you got to employ you in 98.
>> God bless him.
>> Not good. [laughter]
>> God bless him.
>> I remember the improv really liked me
and I [ __ ] him over in like 200.
>> Who was the guy? The original guy at
Coconut Grove.
The guy who liked to party.
>> I forget his name now. Rich Jeff.
>> Give me a minute.
>> Yeah.
>> Give me a minute.
>> The original guy.
>> Yeah. Crazy.
>> Crazy.
>> Fun guy.
>> Really fun. He's from Cleveland. He
lived in Cleveland.
>> Like the party
>> and his wife hit the lottery for a
million dollars.
>> People didn't realize how nutty Coconut
Grove was. That was the nuttiest improv.
That improv. We would go out afterwards
and have Cuban coffee and eat Cuban
sandwiches till like 2:00 in the
morning.
>> Go to that news thing, the news stand.
>> Yeah.
>> It was open till 5:00 and it closed for
an hour.
>> Tell stories. Yeah.
>> And you could drink till all night. But
>> Oh, yeah.
>> So they [snorts] closed from 5 to 6, but
whatever booze you had on the table, you
could keep. So you would say, "Give me
like eight beers." And then they would
open up again at 6:00 and you're right
there. Hey, [laughter]
>> it closed for 1 hour.
>> At 5 in the morning.
I remember one night you were on Conan
O'Brien. This is 97, right? [snorts] No,
you did somebody's late show.
>> Okay.
>> It was the week that our friend got
shot.
>> Oh, the Hartman thing.
>> Hartman thing. You can't believe I
remember. See, I'm just telling you that
I don't know [ __ ] Look up the dates
when Hartman got shot. You were on that
show. like you were with me all weekend
and I stayed and then you went to New
York to shoot that and then that weekend
Hartman, you know, but I'll never forget
I was involved in the threesome when you
were on that talk show and I'm it's a
chubby chick and a hot chick and we're
snorting coke and I'm trying to eat ass
and I'm looking at you. I go pull on put
on NBC. So, I go watch Joe and I'm
watching you as I'm trying to tackle
these two animals and I'm [laughter]
like, "Who the [ __ ] going to believe
this?" The chubby chick got up. She's
like, "You didn't want to be with me
anyway. You always wanted the hot
chick." And slammed the door. It was a
full night. It was a [laughter] full
night, though.
>> Cocaine.
>> But all that [ __ ] you see these people
now and you're like, "Bro, we all went
through it together."
>> Yeah.
>> We all went through it together.
What a great [ __ ] thing to have at
this time in your life that we all we're
all here, you know? [ __ ] really nice,
man. It makes you go, "Wow, this comedy
life was worth every [ __ ] penny I got
into it." It was a fun ride when you
look back and you think like, imagine
when you were first starting out.
Imagine that it would turn out this way.
You never imagined it. And then you look
back, what a fun ride. What an
extraordinarily fun life. I'll never
forget and you had it pinned down from
the beginning. I never even told you
this.
One of my I got to LA like January 97
and that summer like August.
>> That guy.
[clears throat]
>> Nope.
>> No, that's Cleveland improv.
>> I know it says he owned the uh one in
Miami, too.
>> Oh, no. It was the manager.
>> Oh,
>> no worries though. Thank you. Sorry.
>> What are we talking about?
>> Uh something pinned down. Manager.
Who [ __ ] knows?
>> We were talking about
Oh, never imagining that. Looking back
on this life, like when you first
started, I would never imagine it would
turn out this way.
>> You said something about me once that
was right. Like I wasn't on the podcast,
but you were talking to somebody. You're
like, I remember when that guy first
came on the scene. He was scary. He had
a leather jacket and all this
[clears throat] [ __ ] and he was [ __ ]
wild. You know, I just got to LA and I I
do a couple spots. Uh the guys at my my
first talent coordinator at the improv
said to me, "Hey, would you like to work
Irvine or and I go, "Yeah." He goes, "I
got an MC spot. Go do it next week." My
first time I go down there and I had a
the crazy girlfriend then with all the
teeth.
>> Oh yeah.
>> And this [ __ ] head chef comes
up to me and her and he goes, "Hey,
she's got the same mouth as Gina Davis,
the nice [ __ ] mouth." That was my
first weekend ever. And at first I took
it kind of weird. And then I after the
show, I went up to him and I go, "Hey
man, who the [ __ ] do you think you are
saying something like that?" He goes,
"What are you doing? If you go at me,
you'll never work on improv again." I
just kicked him in the [ __ ] stomach
as hard as I could. They called me the
next day. Go, come on, man. I kicked
him. The guy fell apart. All of a
sudden, he wasn't a tough guy no more. I
was just so pissed. How can you say that
to somebody's [ __ ] girlfriend to a
face? I just [ __ ] front kicked him
and I hit him somewhere in the stomach.
He was holding on. I'm calling Hartman.
Call [ __ ] Hartman. I don't give a
[ __ ] I remember getting in the car
going, "Joey, you can't let the old Joey
get in the way, man. This is not good.
You should have just walked away." But
no, why would I walk away? [ __ ] that
[ __ ] That was the problem. A lot of
people would walk away from that [ __ ]
and you just lost. You just became a
Hollywood [ __ ] When you say [ __ ]
you, they'll respect you [ __ ] more a
year later. And they did. They ended up
giving me more work. So,
>> was that guy still there when you went
back?
>> No. He was like a a cute cook that
thought he was cute. like he Orange
County, he wasn't gonna get smacked. I
don't give a [ __ ] who you are. [gasps] I
[ __ ] kicked that [ __ ] I
didn't give a [ __ ] Jack. I was so buck
wild at the store in the beginning when
I hit the kid in the head with the
microphone
and then they came and got me in La Hoya
and I took the pool c the pool. Remember
they had that pool table in La Hoya? The
bumper they had a bumper pool table in
La Hoya,
>> right?
>> So these guys kept threatening me that
they were going to come games. So I got
I became [ __ ] uh
Chuck Norris and Code of Silence.
[laughter] I took all the pool balls and
I put them in different places so I had
to throw them at him as a weapon. Then I
hit all the [ __ ] pool cues. You ever
see Code of Silence? That's Seagal stole
it from him in that [ __ ] Bobby Loop
movie. But that was that was Chuck
Norris when he would fill a bag with
pool cues and hit you in the head with
it and [ __ ] in the pool hall with the
Colombians.
>> Doug and that [ __ ] I saw them.
I was sitting outside the comm the La
Hoya storm. They had that little bench
facing the Chinese restaurant. You don't
remember La Hoya no more. And I saw them
at the light and they made the turn and
I took one of those balls and I kept it
right here and they pulled up and took
water pistols out and I [ __ ] took
that ball and threw it with everything I
had and hit that car and all of a sudden
the [ __ ] car went boom. These
[ __ ] took off. Jack
>> code of silence. I remember this because
this was like the first like real movie
that like got respected by it wasn't
just a karate movie. It was a movie that
was about like an undercover cop movie,
right? Wasn't it
>> against the Colombian?
>> But it was the the fighting part was
just part of it.
>> It wasn't that it was, you know, it was
just a karate movie like most of his
other movies were just karate movies or,
you know, they were kind of campy like
missing in action. It was a lot a lot of
it based on the karate. THIS WAS OH, WE
GOT hit by the pool ball. Oh, they jump
him. This is a terrible movie.
>> This is ter This is [laughter] terrible.
I thought men
>> It was the [ __ ] back then,
>> but it's so When you watch it now,
you're like, "This is the corniest fight
scene of all time. These [clears throat]
guys would overwhelm him."
>> Listen, man. Uh,
>> good men wear black.
Chuck Norris had a couple movies where
he showed his [ __ ] This was not one of
them. Walker, Sheriff Marshall was not
one of them, [laughter] okay? With the
wig doing push-ups still on channel 89.
That wasn't him. I love Chuck Norris,
but Chuck Norris made some good movies
early on that were dark. That's why
nobody talks about Good Women Men Black.
What's the other one? The Octagon.
>> Oh yeah.
>> You forget about all those.
>> Oh yeah. Is this Good Men Good Guys Wear
Black. 1978.
Wow.
How many [ __ ] people did this guy get
into martial arts? Like how many people
because of Chuck Norris movies wind up
doing martial arts? A [ __ ] shitload.
>> I got into Tank Sudo because of him
>> because he was one of the first Tang
Sudau guys. Then he split.
>> He made his own thing or whatever the
[ __ ]
>> It's It's kind of amazing when you think
about how many karate guys didn't make
it.
>> Like how many guys didn't become karate
movie stars and Chuck Norris did? Like
how many of them were there? How many
karate guys wanted to be movie stars and
couldn't figure it out? And he did.
>> I saw every martial arts film made in
the 70s, even with the black
exploitation. The movie was called Three
the Hard Way. Jim Brown, Jim Kelly, and
other really good black.
>> What about Jim Kelly?
>> Jim Kelly was trying to break into that
thing. There was a lot of guys, a bunch
of movies.
>> And then after Bruce Lee died, the whole
thing opened up. Yeah. Jet Lie, Jet,
Bruce,
>> Bruce Lie. You had all these [ __ ]
bruises and that just that that was the
end of it. But I was notorious. I went
to see all those [ __ ] movies growing
up. Billy Jack.
>> You don't remember Billy Billy?
>> I remember Billy Jack.
>> The Indian.
>> Oh yeah. I remember. I remember the
black hat. I remember the whole damn I'm
going to put this foot on the side of
your face. All that [ __ ] damn thing.
>> They even had a white Mormon dude be
martial. Everybody Chinese, black,
everybody played [ __ ] kung fu.
Everybody. And that movie Code of
Silence is Dennis Finina's one of his
first movies. He's Oh, really? Yeah.
He's a sidekick in that movie.
>> Ah,
>> [ __ ] just, you know, people forget
how many kung fu movies or martial art
based movies they actually made in the
70s. [ __ ] unreal.
>> Oh, yeah. Unreal.
>> And the [ __ ] that was getting sent here
from China, it's like uh kid porn. They
were just sending it every weekend.
[ __ ] Chinese people beating up on
Chinese people, jumping. Remember the
more they got older, like by 70s, Bruce
died in 73. By 76, there was movies that
the guy had like a thing of gold, it
weigh like 10, two tons and he would
throw it up a hill and then jump and
catch it on top of the hill. Come on
now. You lost me. The one-armed
swordsman. You lost me. You know, the
guy's got one arm and he's
>> Some dudes love those kung fu movies.
They were completely forget about black
people. recreate like you know when
people talk about Bruce Lee it was a
sensational cultural [ __ ] phenomenon
when he came
>> and [snorts] the people that think about
all the people he opened up to martial
art movies and martial arts in general I
mean oh yeah
>> Chuck Norris was the second half of it
you know Bruce was the first Chuck
Norris was the second and I hate to
admit it UFC is the third big wave of
that that yeah
>> you know nobody goes to karate no more
okay how many karate schools you got
it's for kids 10. They make them hit a
paper,
>> you know.
>> Yeah. They're going to jiu-jitsu schools
now.
>> They're going to all different schools.
So,
>> it's changed. The culture has changed.
You know, in 73, everybody went to Wing
Chong Kung Fu.
>> Yep.
>> You taught judo, you became a Wing Chung
dude now because you weren't going to
make no money off judo. Nobody was doing
judo back then. You had to go to
Brooklyn to get Savat classes. Remember
Savat?
>> Yeah.
>> The French?
>> Yeah.
>> You had to go to Brooklyn. In those
days, New York had everything. But then
when like our friend, the one who does
the MMA podcast with you, Matt Sarah,
when Matt Sarah got into jiu-jitsu, he
would have to go from Long Island all
the way to like close to Philadelphia.
It'd be 3 hours on Sundays. Jiu-Jitsu
wasn't everywhere yet. When he got into
it, he would have to travel. He I think
he told the story, one of his podcast,
[snorts] he would have to drive to
Jersey just on Sundays. They just did
jiu-jitsu on Sundays cuz that's all that
was available. M
>> now you got a jiu-jitsu school at every
[ __ ] corner. And who's that because
of? That's because of the UFC, man. It
just blew it the [ __ ] right open. So,
who knows? I may be wrong.
>> No, I think you're right. For sure. The
UFC opened up Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Hoist
Gracie. Hoist Gracie winning the first
UFC's that opened up Brazilian jiu-jitsu
all over the country.
>> Saying, "What the [ __ ] is this?"
>> Yeah. It was a completely new I mean,
there was no Brazilian jiu-jitsu in
America. You never even talked about it.
I did martial arts my whole life. I've
never even heard of it. you heard of it,
but
>> I don't even know if I so far off to
you.
>> I barely even paid attention to it. It
was like it could have been anything.
And then all a sudden the UFC came
along. It's like, oh my god, that's the
thing that everybody needs to learn.
>> That's what's wild now. It's like how
many people trained martial arts in
comparison to like 50 years ago. It's
not There's no comparison. There's way
more people that know how to fight now
than like ever before and ever before.
>> Or at least they know how to neutralize
somebody.
Well, a lot of people are training now.
People learn to neutralize people.
Anybody who studies jiu-jitsu ain't
going to bully bully you,
>> okay? They're going to neutralize you on
the street. What are you going to do?
Break your [ __ ] shoulder on the
street. They're trying to neutralize
you, hold you down. Hey, take a breath.
Relax. Don't swing at me cuz I'll break
this [ __ ] arm. Relax.
>> Do you ever see the video of Matt Sarah?
I think it was in Atlantic City
>> and it might have been Vegas somewhere
in a casino. Some drunk guy is causing
problems and Matt winds up taking him
down and mounting him until the the cops
come. He's just holding on to the guy.
He's just sitting on the guy holding on.
There it is. The guy's swinging. Look at
Matt. Like you've got a literal
Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion and
he's just mounting you laughing. Like
you think about picking on the wrong
guy. [laughter] He's just holding I mean
the guy's completely helpless.
I don't remember the whole story behind
this. Look at the security guard coming.
And I was like, "Relax. I got this guy."
>> You and I both know Mac could kick him
in the face and get up and leave.
>> He could literally
>> This is what I'm telling you. The
jiu-jitsu that atmosphere doesn't teach
you to do that. He just holds you down
going, "Hey."
>> Well, he has nothing to prove. You know,
>> no. Catch your breath.
>> He's laughing. World champion. I mean, I
don't know if he had been the UFC
champion by that time, but you know,
>> what are you going to do? Kamar somebody
on the street and break their shoulder?
Now you have to live. You're going to go
to jail. You're going to get sued. You
lose everything.
>> I know jiu-jitsu people take you down
like they're bouncers. Yeah.
>> Did he just neutralize you? It
>> was the night before his Hall of Fame
induction to the [laughter]
>> 2018.
>> Okay. So, that's way past the time that
he won the title. Yeah. That's
hilarious. That's That's very funny.
That poor guy. Imagine like knowing that
guy could have killed you and he was
just so nice. All he did was hold your
wrists and sit on your chest for a
little while.
>> Look at him. He look like he was on a
boat having a good time. He's like,
"Hey, somebody get me a water or
something."
>> He's the guy's literally helpless. He
has no fear whatsoever of that guy
hurting him, you know? It's like it's
like a child. It's like your little
child's having a temper tantrum. Like,
come on. It's [snorts] Matt's terror.
It's funny. There's so many dummies out
there. This is a part of the problem in
this world. It's hard to get your [ __ ]
together. So many people just stumble
through life just never getting their
[ __ ] together.
>> [ __ ] my friend last night. She has
like a cooking show on YouTube. She
goes, "I had to stop doing it, Joey."
He goes, "My mother would watch and
these people would say like the weirdest
like you know everything, show me your
tit, show me your [ __ ] you can't cook,
[ __ ] [laughter]
and you're like, you know, how much
longer am I going to take this [ __ ]
for?"
>> People are so horrible.
>> They're [ __ ] horrible on the
internet. You know, he's this young girl
looking good. [laughter] She like, Joey,
I had to cancel the [ __ ] thing. She
was doing like a workout, a cooking
thing. She goes, "No, I just play with
my cats. That's it." And people love
cats. She goes, "That's it." But it's
it's impossible. The [ __ ] you say so
many animals out there
>> and they're out there and they don't
give a [ __ ] and they say [ __ ]
>> It's also there's zero consequences for
saying horrible [ __ ]
>> And they're trying to get a rise out of
the other people in the comments, too.
So, they're trying to say outrageous
[ __ ] so that other people react to it so
that you'll read it, you'll react to it.
>> It's It's the dumbest [ __ ] thing
ever.
>> It is. I was thinking this last night.
It's kind of a crazy thought, but you
know, everyone is addicted right now to
social media and addicted to going
online and just addicted to content.
You're constantly getting content.
You're constantly interacting with your
phone. And this is a very new thing,
right? It's within the last 20 years
this has happened to people. This is
like prepping us for what's coming next.
We're going to look back on these days
and we're going to realize, oh, the
addictions to the phones, the addictions
to staring at the screens and checking
your email and looking at YouTube and
looking at Instagram and looking at
Twitter, that's just preparing you for
you being completely connected to
electronics forever. This is like the
early stages of it. I was thinking about
it last night while I was watching this
television show. I'm watching this crazy
show. It's called From. Have you seen
this show?
>> No. No. It's nuts by the guys who made
Lost. One of the dudes that's in Lost is
the main star of it. It's [ __ ] great
show. Like really good show. Like very
unpredictable, twisted, just like Lost.
Like crazy show about these people stuck
in this town. They can't get out. It's
impossible to get out. But I was
thinking while I was watching this, I
was like, why why is everyone because no
one has a phone there and everyone's
just locked into this place. I was like,
your phone is preparing you. The
addiction to our phones are preparing us
to the next stage of what life is going
to be like as a person. This is just the
gate. The phones are the gate. But
what's coming next? You're going to
reminisce about the days of the phone.
Oh, you remember when we had phones? We
had to look things up. You had a little
thing. You got to charge it. Remember
when you had to charge it? That's how
we're going to be. We're moving into
some weird new area. They're building
these [ __ ] data centers everywhere
and everyone's like, "Oh, the data
center. [ __ ] great." Like, what? What is
that? What are you doing? Why are you
building these things that need to be
powered by nuclear reactors? Why you do
Why you building these things that are
sucking up all the [ __ ] water? Why
are they putting these things out in the
middle of the desert, big as [ __ ]
five football fields, huge [ __ ] giant
buildings filled with computers? Like,
what the [ __ ] are we doing?
And the gates is this goddamn phone.
This phone is the gate. We're We're
opening up the door to us completely.
>> I'll tell you why. My daughter can't
watch a whole movie.
>> They have no attention span. 40 minutes
in, she has to leave and then she'll
start it from the next day. I had to
watch Scarface though.
>> You had her watch Scarface?
>> Yeah, cuz she we watch we do
experimentals at the house. [laughter]
We did the fight club. We do all that
[ __ ] So she said, "Dad, I always only
watch the part when he shoots the the
brother-in-law, you know, that's the
only part of it. It's always on when I
come down." I go, "I want to watch from
the beginning." She enjoyed it for a
little while. I went upstairs. After one
scene, I'm like, "I can't watch this
again." She goes, "I'll stay up."
Two days later, mother goes, "Did you
see the review she wrote on it?" And I
go, "No." She goes, "Take a look at it."
And she's like, "I enjoyed the movie. I
was a fan because it was CubanAmerican.
But then as the movie rolled on, I
figured these Cubans don't know how to
treat women. [laughter] He goes,
they smacking them and shooting.
>> All you do is turn around. [laughter]
Wait for me. [ __ ] you.
>> She didn't [ __ ] like that at all.
She's like, I know my dad's Cuban, but
Jesus Christ, they're so mean to their
women.
>> I'm like, [snorts] do I act like that?
She go, no, but cocaine days.
>> Yeah. She said, she goes, "That gave men
a different [ __ ] thing." I go, "That
was 40 [ __ ] years ago."
>> Not only that, you're dealing with the
people that were the criminals of Cuba
that were kicked out of Cuba that made
their way to America. Like, this is not
normal people.
>> No. No. And now they're about to let the
second half out. Everything
>> What are they doing to Cuba right now?
Like,
>> well, they're not surviving. They don't
have any uh power, no gasoline. It's
funny because every couple days I get an
algorithm was just promoting Cuban
videos.
Cuban videos. People in like they had
kids going to work out.
They took them to like this little
place. Everything had papers on it. They
did pull-ups, situps with the head. The
pipes were broken. You got to see these
[ __ ] kids doing full workouts where
what we wouldn't even look at. They're
body weightight workouts, you know?
They talking they they go around
Baradero and they interview people and I
don't know what this is doing. I don't
know what this is doing because we're
two years away from Cuba being legit.
They're going to go back down there
after this whole thing goes or Raul or
whatever, whatever they decide they
can't get fuel from Venezuela. How long
is it going to take? I mean, they're not
going to be happy till they have a
Starbucks in Cuba.
>> So, what happened was they were getting
their oil from Venezuela, right? We took
over Venezuela. We cut off their oil.
>> Cut them off. And so what is the United
States trying to do with Cuba right now?
They're trying to get rid of the
communist government.
>> They're trying to Well, they're going to
they charged Raul Castro with something
recently. That's the beginning. This is
going to end up like
>> Fidel's brother.
>> You're going to wake up one day and on
ABC News. There they are in Cuba pulling
people out. And
>> but doesn't China and Russia have a
relationship with Cuba? Isn't that a
problem?
>> Not really, because they're not paying
their bills. That's why Cuba's starving.
When they had Russia, Russia was [ __ ]
doing everything, but then they didn't
need them no more and they cut them off.
>> I think there's they do small trades for
sugar or something.
>> It is kind of crazy for the United
States to have an enemy that's 90
minutes offshore in a boat.
>> Trump administration said on 2026, May
20th, indicted former Cuban President
Rul Castro for murder based on the
downing of two planes near the Cuban
coastline in 1996 that killed four
people. As a historian of Latin American
and US foreign policy, I believe the
indictment may be the prelude to a
direct US military action against Cuba.
>> This is the beginning.
>> This is uh Kevin A. Young from UMass
Amhurst. Uh before Castro, the last US
indictment of a Latin American leader
occurred in January 2026. That's the
Venezuela thing. Since January, US has
ended the flow of Venezuelan oil to Cuba
and has economic and military pressure
to prevent other nations from trading
with the island. Trump recently
threatened a friendly takeover of Cuba.
I believe what's missing from most
recent analysis of this situation is the
history of US aggression against Cuba is
essential context for understanding the
Trump administration's recent
escalations.
>> Yeah. Once they indict you, they're
coming for you. It's just a matter of
time.
>> Like the starving the country.
>> We walk up. Yeah. They just
>> And then they'll come up with a
solution. Here's your solution. You need
to put in new leadership.
>> But they're not telling you there's a
shooting or two in Cuba every night.
Cuba's not getting there's no power.
There's no electricity. They have
roaring what do you call and that was
yesterday
>> earthquake.
>> Yeah. Biggest one in 15 years.
>> So they're just [ __ ] they're doing
everything they can say was the biggest
one in over 150 years.
>> Oh my god.
>> Yeah. So everything is looking like
right now that's it. They can survive
this.
>> [ __ ]
>> So
>> So what happens to those people? They
just wait this out or the United States
and so they get no resources, no
supplies.
>> You got two things in Cuba. You have
people that don't know.
>> You never watch that 30 for30 with El
Duk when they won the championship and
they said people in New York were
throwing toilet paper and the wife was
grabbing it saying in Cuba this is gold.
Why are you throwing away toilet paper?
We have no toilet paper in Cuba. That's
a mentality. So 50% of those people have
been brainwashed to the where they, you
know, every day there's a bullhorn
buenos.
You know, when the communists, whatever
they call each other.
>> Yeah. Comrades,
>> we're winning the war. We're getting
close. You know, what do you mean I'm
getting closer? I'm down to 118. I was
walking around at 170.
>> How are we getting closer to a victory?
So they're getting sick of that [ __ ]
They say the bugs that land on you at
night are [ __ ] just atrocious. these
bug, you know, they have real [ __ ]
bugs on that island. Not to mention,
they all have syphilis.
Cubans have syphil. I think half my
fungi toenail is syphilis cuz it smells
like it. You know what I'm saying? But
on the on a [ __ ] not jokey thing, the
Cubans got two weeks left. Two weeks
from today.
>> And so you think they're going to
invade?
>> Yeah, they're going to invade. Take
Madur uh take Raul out. And then what do
you got? They're going to install some
new.
>> I remember a couple months ago there was
a shooting in Cuba of a boat.
>> You remember that, right? Right, Jamie?
>> Some people were out there fishing and
the Cuban Navy shot him.
>> What?
>> Like three months ago? Oh, yeah. This is
>> Why did they shoot?
>> I don't know. They were investigating
it.
>> Cuba hands out weapons to citizens and
tell them prepare for an invasion. Holy
[ __ ]
>> Holy [ __ ] That's June 7th. That's
Sunday.
>> Sunday. Hold two weeks away, bro.
Distributing weapons to its citizens in
fear of a US invasion. They reportedly
started handing out weapons to civilians
as the government urges population to
prepare for a potential US invasion.
Reports from South American publication
Version Final stated uh against the
backdrop of the deployment of American
military power near the island, the
government of Havana began distributing
weapons to citizens, officially urging
them to prepare for an imminent foreign
invasion. What if the citizens use that
weapon to take over the country,
>> which they should do? That's what they
[ __ ] should do. Just call the [ __ ]
>> crazy risk.
>> Start handing out guns to people.
>> Like I said, man,
>> all a sudden your population is armed
and you're telling them what to do.
[sighs]
>> And they don't have any money. And you
don't have any money either.
>> Look, man. When I started doing okay, I
contacted my sister.
I offered her a free ticket out of Cuba.
money. Whatever I got half is yours.
You're my blood, you know?
>> Right.
>> I don't know if I can do that. Okay, why
don't we do this? Why don't I fly you to
Jersey? You go to your mother's grave.
You go see where her house was, her way
of life, and then I take you back.
She told me I can never do that cuz I'm
married to one of Fidel's guys. I don't
even want to go to the United States.
>> Oh jeez.
>> So, she was so brainw.
Well, you're used to what you're used
to.
>> Yeah. And that's what
>> a big chance of coming to America and
not knowing where you're going to eat
and how you gonna live and where you
gonna get money. Are you going to work?
Are you going to have a great
>> They got programs for all those people.
They got churches. Cuban people have
churches. They're Catholics.
>> Is there also a thing where you if you
leave Cuba, I think there's it's a a
cleaner path to get to become a United
States citizen. You're fleeing.
>> Yes, it's easier. I think so. something
like that. If you're playing violent
dictatorship, military dictatorship,
>> [ __ ] dude.
>> It's just like
>> what are they going to do about that?
>> And then you got to We're talking about
Vegas. What's going to happen in Vegas
if Cuba reopens?
>> What do you mean?
>> They're going to put gambling back
there. You know, the Americans going to
put gambling back there. They're in
negotiations already with Hers already.
They're talking
>> turn into a resort, a location. They're
not going to rip down the architecture
that original architectures what makes
Cuba and the cars and [ __ ] but also
some something else. But, and I know
America knows this.
>> Those oceans are booby trap.
>> Up to a mile out of Cuba. There's a ton
of [ __ ] that they have. Booby trap
mines, all that [ __ ] They planted those
during the Bay of Pigs invasion.
>> Look at this.
>> Cuba. 1957.
>> 1957. Back when the mob ran it.
>> Look at everybody dressed impeccably.
They would go there, people, know
nothing.
>> They loved it back then. They loved
going to Cuba. People would go there,
live it up,
>> and sex was free and cheap and you could
[ __ ] a chicken those days. [laughter]
You get [ __ ] in the ass by a guy with
>> must have been amazing,
>> dog. It was unreal. That's why the whole
point of Kennedy and all that was for
them to get Cuba back. The Italians,
they were making too much money out of
Cuba. And now they want to start to put
drugs in there and [ __ ] towards when
they took it down. Cuba's been [ __ ]
riddled with [ __ ] for years. Every
bad luck that they have, they created in
the 50s and 40s because it was a sex
heaven. Americans would go down there on
a Friday and not come back. And you
know, it was whatever it cost here,
$8,000 will cost you $80 to get your
dick sucked for three days and fed
people rubbing your feet and [ __ ]
>> Castro Revolution had a major effect on
Las Vegas. Look at that. Closure of
Havana Casinos spurred exodus to the
desert. Wow. Frank M's father.
Especially people in the
>> who?
>> Frank Mir's father.
>> What do you mean? Frank Mir's father.
>> Frank Mir's father was a casino. So
that's how he ended up in Vegas.
>> Oh. Oh. His name is Miranda.
>> Connected to
>> No. So Frank Mir's father was a casino
dealer in Cuba.
>> Oh.
>> When Cuba closed down, he went right to
Vegas. So a lot of those people went
right to Vegas.
>> Wow.
>> Really interesting [ __ ] That
>> that is interesting. It makes sense
because that those are the two places.
And if you're on the east coast, the
trip to Cuba is easy.
>> Was 30 minutes. It's
>> like going to Florida.
>> 30 minutes. It was what you and your
wife would do on the weekend. What do we
do?
>> How far is the flight from New York City
to uh New [clears throat] York City to
Florida is what, an hour?
>> Three.
>> Three hours.
>> Yeah. Because Trump is down there now.
So they go a different way now. No.
>> You can't go straight to Fort Lauderdale
or Miami. You got to go outside that
range if he's in
>> What did it used to be?
>> Two.
>> Two. Two hours. So New York City to Cuba
is only an extra half hour then.
>> That's it. New York City.
>> So like less than three hours.
>> Three hours you'll be on the island.
>> So it's basically the same as Vegas
then.
>> Yeah.
>> It's the middle.
>> The middle.
>> But you have the you're on an island.
It's a resort.
>> Nobody knows what's going on.
>> It's beautiful.
>> You know I told you that my mother would
tell me how all those Hollywood stars
would hide in Cuba, especially Rock
Hudson.
>> They would go that's where they would
suck dick on the weekends.
>> Oh, Rock Hudson. So all those Hollywood
people would go to Cuba, lock themselves
in.
>> There was no TMZ. There was no press,
>> right?
>> You know, these people in Cuba don't
have a new, you know, how they going to
get the pay
>> and everything's run by the mob. So it's
like just all sin and vice.
>> Whenever you got a minute, you run, you
read that a van turn. That book,
>> what is it called?
>> It's a van turn. It's a revolution from
three different places. Union City, New
Jersey,
New York City, and Miami. And how Oh,
no, no, not New York City. Tampa and how
those three cities
were like involved in that whole
>> what do you think is going to happen to
Cuba if you had a guess?
>> If I had to guess, come on. I'm already
seeing dollar signs. If you're a casino
right now with how bad casinos are doing
here, you're looking at that right
there. You're looking
>> Nocturn.
>> How the mob own how the mob owned Cuna
Cuba and then lost it to the revolution.
>> Yeah. Excellent book. Excellent. And so
that was Kennedy trying to get rid of
the mob. That's why they
>> when the mob put Listen,
>> Kennedy's father went to Chicago and he
talked to those people. They had to
pull. If you live in Chicago or where
else you win the primary, I don't know
how it works, Joe. I'm not a political
guy.
>> Well, they definitely helped Kennedy get
into office.
>> They helped Kevin get into office.
>> But then when he got into office,
>> he didn't help him get Fidel back. Then
the brother double timed him and then
they started shooting. And I don't I
don't know who shot Kennedy's. I'm just
saying this.
>> Well, the mob definitely didn't like
him. They were very upset.
>> They cut into their pocket
>> and he helped the mob helped him get
into office in the first place,
>> right?
>> And then once he got in, they started
prosecuting people and like, hey,
>> then he [ __ ] them with the the Bay of
Pigs
>> when he pulled off air support at the
last.
>> He didn't know that they were going to
do this and then when they told him
about it, he denied air support and air
support was critical to the success of
the mission.
>> Absolutely. and uh Operation Mongoose,
Robert Kennedy spearheaded his secret
government project to topple the Cuban
communist regime, working parallel to
the CIA's mob assisted efforts.
Um, but this is after the revolution,
right? This was when Fidel was running
Cuba,
>> right?
>> Right.
>> They were trying everything they do to
kill [ __ ] Fidel. They were doing
everything to see.
>> But this is after So what spurred the
Cuban takeover of of uh the the
military's taken over of Cuba. Mob
bosses like Sam Gianana and Santo
Trafocante were recruited to help
eliminate Castro using methods like
poison pills. Mafia wanted Castro gone
so they could reopen their multi-million
dollar Cuban operations. Wow.
>> That's all it was. It was money.
>> Wow.
>> Big money. Untraceable.
>> I can imagine.
>> Unfound. Untraceable. Nothing. Nothing.
>> And you're over there living the life.
>> Nobody knows nothing. My Lansky eating
[ __ ] Cuban food every day.
>> They probably had it all set up. It was
nice. And then the re
>> kosher Cuban food every day. [ __ ] my
>> So the what what did the people think?
The people think that these mob
[ __ ] they've taken over our
country. Let's let's let Castro come in
and we'll be socialists and everything
will be great.
>> Or did they just get taken over?
>> They got taken. What happened was Castro
went in there, Batista was horrible.
Batista was [ __ ] no better than
Castro.
So when Castro took over, he was to take
over Batista and make Cuba blah blah
blah. But in the conglomeration, he
became a communist somewhere along the
line. And then when he took over Cuba,
that's when he shut the casinos down.
>> He destroyed the [ __ ] casinos, you
know.
>> And then [clears throat] the Italians
got mad. They all came back and then
they were just they thought it was going
to be temporary
like this is going to be temporary.
We'll clean over this. So for years
Italians were just watching the news
waiting for somebody to kill [ __ ]
Castro.
It was the Italians.
>> And then when they thought that the
United States was going to go in there
and invade like, oh good, we're all set.
>> I wish there was more film from those
days so people could see like my mother
explained things to me. I wish she was
still alive because I could have like
she said the Italian food was different
in Cuba. She goes first off the pizzas
had lobster on them and shrimp already
back then in the 50s.
>> Wow.
>> They were making cuz she didn't like the
pizza in the United States. She goes not
the same. They put fresh shrimp from the
[ __ ] ocean,
>> lobster, [ __ ] all these other things.
They got these pies now in New York. I'm
scared to try them. I can't. They put
calamari on the pizza. How fat can you
get?
>> [laughter]
>> How [ __ ] fat do you want to be? You
go to these pizza place in Jersey, dog.
It's like ziti. A pound of ziti on a
slice of pizza.
>> There's pizza places in [clears throat]
Jersey that have just gone off. And the
sandwich places in Jersey.
>> Oh, your boy your boy is going off. No.
>> Oh, Giovani. But that's that's White
Plains. White Plains. That's phenomenal.
>> I've been doing nothing like Italian
delies on the East Coast. There's
nothing like it.
>> That smell like that cheese when you
walk in and the [ __ ] olives and [ __ ]
Oh, it's insane.
>> Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
>> There's too much pizza. Like it just too
much.
>> You know, it's funny. When I moved down,
like I'm scared to gain weight. The
pizza. I eat one slice a week. Maybe
maybe
since I had the knee surgery, I've been
doing the podcast at the house. So, I've
been ordering pizza from this one place
and my buddies go crazy. [snorts] That's
the best pizza we've ever had. It's
thin, sweet red sauce.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Extra cheese. You burn it. It's [ __ ]
thin. Oh my god. And the sweet red
sauce. God,
>> they know how to make pizza on the East
Coast. And they try out here. They do a
pretty good job out here, but it's just
not the same.
>> It's missing something. They don't.
>> Same as the sandwiches. There's some
good Italian sandwiches out here.
They're pretty good, but they can't [ __ ]
with like Giovani's place.
>> Bro, Giovani sent me two shipments that
were
>> He's the best.
>> I had to give half of it away. I'm like,
>> he sends you so much
>> [ __ ] salamis and [ __ ] dried. Oh,
>> the cheese is incredible, right?
>> Oh, and the cookies is [ __ ] cookies
to die for, bro.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, and that's everywhere. Like I
just stop
>> Yeah.
>> [ __ ] around like
>> Well, when I go to the east coast, I
just assume terrible.
>> I got to take you to this place.
>> Which place? You took me to Elito. That
was phenomenal.
>> Now is Kovo Steakhouse.
Whatever. But
>> it's a steakhouse now.
>> Yeah.
>> Is it great?
>> They [ __ ] me up a couple weeks ago. I
went in there five to nine. I've been
there three weeks in a row with big
party and then my wife wants and then a
friend wants. I go in there when they
have 5 to 9 like let me get a 14 ounce
with a [ __ ] beer and they're like
we're closed.
Ain't nobody in here. You can't make
another steak. No, we're closed. It's
not even 9:00.
No reason to go back.
>> That's a bummer.
>> You just I was
>> That's people want to go home.
>> Yeah. I don't give a [ __ ] It's a steak.
You guys are There's nobody in here.
Right.
>> The bar is cute in there.
>> Nobody's ever in there. They got a male
bartender. They got a blonde with big
tits. You see this place [laughter]
packed the [ __ ] up. You got a little
Spanish guy that's a great guy.
>> But but I go to this place now. They had
on the special three weeks ago. You
ready?
>> Stuff shells with lobster meat.
>> Out of the court inside
>> and he gives you five of them in a tray.
Oh sh
>> What's this place called? Asteria.
>> Where's it at?
>> Mar, bro.
>> This is my spot.
>> Yeah.
>> I go there because the dude will do
whatever I ask him to do. Like he he has
a menu, but then he'll go, "Joey, have
you tasted my Italian fried rice?"
You're like, "What are you talking about
Italian fried rice?" And he makes risoto
with lobster and shrimp or fried rice.
[laughter]
So he's going to add it. He's got a new
restaurant opening. So he lets me sample
everything. He makes a cheese steak to
die for with the bread with the seeds on
it.
>> Oh yeah.
>> The simolina bread.
>> Yeah. [sighs]
>> Oh my god.
>> Asteria. There it is. Oh, that looks
good. Yeah. There's nothing like East
Coast Italian food. Nothing even
compares.
>> No. Steve and Angelo in there, bro. They
don't [ __ ] around.
>> All right, let's wrap this [ __ ] up,
>> bro. Thank you for having me.
>> My pleasure. I love you. Thursday. I'm
around all week.
>> All right. All right.
>> But I'm in Atlantic City 7th and 8th at
Oceanceans Casino. White People Casino.
>> July 7th and 8th.
>> No, August.
>> August 7th and 8th. Okay.
>> Chicago got announced November 5th.
>> Uh what's the website for people to go
to find out details?
>> I got no [ __ ] website.
>> Joey Diaz.com or
>> is that real?
>> I don't know anymore. [laughter]
>> All right. Well, they'll find you.
They'll find you. So, one more time,
where's the casino?
>> Uh Oceans Casino in Atlantic City, New
Jersey. The seventh and eighth.
Tremendous. Beautiful. All right.
>> I think the governor's coming.
>> The governor.
>> Yeah, Mikey Cheryl. I don't even like
her, but I do like Mikey Cheryl.
[laughter]
I do like Mikey Cheryl cuz she's a
Democrat. You're not supposed to like
him. But it was funny. I went to a
restaurant. Some guys like, "Hey, man.
Life would have been so much better with
Jack Chidarel." I go, I know, but he
lost by 400,000 [ __ ] votes. He tried
to a Republican in Jersey. That's never
going to [ __ ] work. They've been
Democrats since Jesus showed up. So
400,000 votes, bro.
>> That's a lot. I'd be in my house with
the windows [ __ ] like sunny black and
Donnie Brasco with the windows the
shades drawn for a year. 400,000 [ __ ]
>> See that podcast I did with Joe Pone?
>> Yes. Very good. He was very good on it.
>> He was amazing.
>> He's a good dude, too. He's a good
[ __ ] savage.
>> What a crazy life. The real Donnie Bras.
I mean, really [ __ ] lived like that.
>> And he infiltrated the bananas.
>> Yeah. Deep.
>> They never recovered from that.
>> They even loved him after he [ __ ]
came out and they found out he was a
cop. They're like, "Oh, you were better
than me." That's like one of the guys
said that to him. "Hey, you you won. You
beat me." Wow. Nuts.
>> All right.
>> I love you, brother. Thank you very
much, man.
>> We're going to have lunch tonight. All
right. Bye, everybody.
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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan and guest Joey Diaz share stories about their past experiences with drugs, medical procedures, and the wild world of comedy. They discuss the realities of life, gambling, and the changing landscape of their careers over the years.
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