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NIGHT. All day.

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>> All right, brother. Hey, what's

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happening? What's going on?

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>> Same [ __ ] Great to be here.

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>> Great to see you. How you feeling?

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>> My knee like a tiptop [ __ ] my goo.

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>> Your knee. I can't believe you could

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walk so quickly after getting the knee

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fixed again.

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>> It was like 3 days, man.

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>> That's nuts. But yesterday I [ __ ] it

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up at Newark airport because I wanted to

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walk,

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>> you know, but it was like like I walk

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every day at the gym and then I walk my

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neighborhood for breakfast and after

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dinner. But that's a loop,

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>> you know. This was 10 loops yesterday.

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So, thank God I had a baggie with

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edibles with me on the plane. I ate the

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edibles and I put I asked the [ __ ]

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flight attendant. She give me some ice

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and that's how I got it down. Then I You

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rub it with that bortto [ __ ] That

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liquid cocaine juice. It's

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>> what?

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>> Yeah, it's a cream that [laughter] that

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became illegal. You buy it over the

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counter.

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>> What is that?

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>> It's Vora something. Vor, don't quote

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me, man.

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>> But it's a good cream. It numbs your

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eye. You have to rub it though twice a

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day and

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>> Oh, yeah.

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>> Yeah. But it's [ __ ] feels fantastic.

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>> I've never heard of it.

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>> Yeah. Voltron. Voltrax.

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>> Vol.

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>> Don't listen to me, dog. Just [laughter]

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Google. What's that? Is that it?

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Voltran. See, I'm

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>> Volter. Arthritis pain. And you just rub

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it on your knee.

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>> Yeah. A couple times a day. Anything

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that hurts.

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What is it?

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>> It's like a [ __ ] gel with cocaine

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that takes care of the [laughter]

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[ __ ] situation for you.

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[snorts]

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>> Prescription strength over-the-counter

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non-steroidal anti-inflammatory that

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penetrates the skin to relieve joint

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pain, inflammation, and stiffness.

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Interesting. I never heard of it before.

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Widely used for osteoarthritis and

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muscle aches. Should not be used for

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acute injuries like simple strains or

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bruises.

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Wonder why.

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Why can't you use it for strains or

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bruises?

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Does it say why? That seems weird. Cuz

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like that's what people use um like

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ibuprofen and [ __ ] for. Wonder why you

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can't use

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>> like I couldn't use any of that [ __ ] I

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could only use Tylenol, whatever the

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[ __ ] that is. I couldn't take ibuprofen

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after the surgery.

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>> No.

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>> Have you ever used DMSO?

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>> I don't know what that is, Joe.

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>> That's this [ __ ] right here.

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>> You rub it on? Yeah, they uh that's

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another horse tranquilizer. Another

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horse medication.

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>> Yeah, they they use it in veterinary

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applications, but it's a it's really

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good for pain. For pain and injury, take

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that. Keep it.

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>> Okay.

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>> No, I have a bunch of them.

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>> Thank you.

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>> I buy I buy [ __ ] in bulk.

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>> We were talking about [snorts] La Zato.

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>> Yeah,

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>> that was the early steroids which were

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the 70s.

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>> We don't know what the [ __ ] we were

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getting in the 70s. Everything came from

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Germany. I think

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>> I think they were getting

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>> the Roblin all that [ __ ] I think they

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were getting human growth hormone from

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cadaavvers. See if that's true. Jamie,

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put that into our AI sponsored

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Perplexity. Did they used to get human

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growth hormone from cadaavvers? I think

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they did. I think that's how they used

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to get it.

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>> What do you get human growth hormone

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from now?

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>> That's a good question. Um, I don't

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know. I don't know how they do it. It's

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synthetic. I know it's synthetic. So it

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must be they isolate the molecule, they

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figure out how to reproduce it and then

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they make it somehow. I have no idea. Um

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but the way they used to do it back then

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cadaavver derived human growth hormone

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was real used mid 1900s to 1985 and

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turned out to be dangerous because it

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sometimes trans transmitted pron

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diseases like kruxfel jacob yuckub and

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is no longer used and has been fully

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replaced by synthetic recombinant HDH.

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So, uh, Crutzfeld Yuckup disease, that's

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mad cow disease. It's the same kind of

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disease. And what it comes from is it's

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the same thing that cannibals get. When

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people eat human brain tissue, they they

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get and and neurons and that kind of

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[ __ ] You get this same disease. Ala was

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one of the first US sports figures to

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admit using anabolic steroids in the

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last year of his life as he battled

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against the brain tumor which eventually

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caused his death. Alzador asserted that

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his steroid use abuse, his steroid abuse

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directly led to his fatal illness. He

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recounted his steroid abuse in an

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article Sports Illustrated. I started

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taking anabolic steroids in 69 and never

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stopped. Now I'm sick and I'm scared. I

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was addicting mentally. It was addicting

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mentally and mentally addicting. 90% of

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athletes I know are on the stuff. We're

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not born to be 300 lb or jump 30 feet. I

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became very violent on the field. Off it

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too. I did things only crazy people do.

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Once in 1979 in Denver, a guy sideswiped

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my car. I chased him up and down the

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hills through the neighborhoods. I did

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that a lot. I chased a guy, pulling out

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of his car, beat the hell out of him.

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But look at me now. I wobble when I

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walk. And sometimes I have to hold on to

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somebody. You have to give me time to

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answer questions because I have trouble

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remembering things.

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>> He died at 43.

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>> 43 from cancer.

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>> That's how old I am.

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>> Wow.

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>> He didn't look good at the end. Like he

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wore the bandanas. Al Ela was Jewish.

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>> Says he was inducted into the Jewish

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Hall of Fame.

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>> What did it say? Bo, go back to that

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what I was just reading.

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>> International Jewish

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>> Jewish Sports Hall of Fame. I didn't

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even know that existed.

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>> Okay. Uh, so

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I don't know if that was that stuff that

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growth hormone did that, but

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>> Well, listen, he's saying he can't walk

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at the end. and they can't remember.

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That's the

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>> the knocks to the head and mixed with

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whatever was going on.

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>> Yeah. I mean, there's

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>> with everything else, it becomes

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something else. You know,

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>> I lied.

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>> A midst massive. That's one of those

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lies that like everybody, you know, it's

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like when bodybuilders say they're

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natural. Like, shut the [ __ ] up, [ __ ]

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Nobody's that big. Nobody's that big

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without help. There's a bunch of goofy

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guys out there that still try to claim

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natural. Like, come on, son.

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>> How many [ __ ] steaks do you eat a

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day? like the Barbarian Brothers. 36

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eggs.

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>> There's some guys that have freak

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genetics. They have very unusual

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genetics and they get real big

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naturally, but that's rare. That's super

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super rare.

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>> As a matter of fact, I got [snorts]

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picked up by an Ubie yesterday. Guess

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who was the driver?

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>> Who?

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>> Yoel Romero's nephew.

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>> No way.

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>> And he's a judo champion.

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>> No way.

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>> We talked in Spanish for about 15 20

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minutes

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>> in Jersey or here.

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>> Right here. He lives cuz all these Uber

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drivers are Cuban.

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>> Really?

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>> All of them in Austin.

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>> They're all getting replaced by robots.

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>> [ __ ] that. The Cubans. I saw a Cuban

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yell at the robot a couple last time I

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was here. [laughter] He got out of the

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car yelling at the car and he realized

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and he got back in the car. My bad.

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>> That's hilarious.

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>> The guy cut him off.

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>> They cut you off all the time. It's

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[ __ ] way up.

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>> No, I stay away from those.

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>> They get right in front of you. They're

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They're ridiculous.

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>> I don't trust those cars at all. And I

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don't see how people sit I don't It's

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not for me, brother.

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>> Did you hear about that lady? She got

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into one and a homeless guy was in the

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back.

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>> No.

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>> Yeah. Some guy used the Whimo. He got

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his luggage out, left the hatch open.

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probably figured the the thing closed

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itself. It didn't. Homeless guy hopped

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in, shut the door. Lady gets the way mo.

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There's a homeless guy in the back. He

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starts yelling at her for paying robots.

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Why you paying robots? [laughter]

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I got to tell you about my homeless

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situation this week, Joe.

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>> Oh, no.

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>> So, my daughter played at Egg Harbor

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this weekend. It's like 25 minutes

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outside of Atlantic City, which is an

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hour and a half from my house. So, we

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went down for Saturday's tournament.

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They won. Now, we got two more games on

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Sunday. So, we got a hotel. I didn't

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want to get a hotel at Oceans. I'm going

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to be at Oceans in August, but I didn't

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want to get go there because all the

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other parents were in [ __ ] uh Harris.

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So, I said, "Fuck it. I don't want to be

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that guy. Oh, I'll stay at Harris with

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you." So, the game ended and my wife had

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to drive the kids somewhere and I go,

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"You know what?" Because every time,

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every weekend when I go on those little

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trips, I go to a weed store. Like last

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week, I went into one in Trenton. Dog,

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this was a block from the state capital.

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You could see the dome. The black guy

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called me back and he goes, "No, no, no.

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I got a secret place in the back." He

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had mushrooms. Mushroom chocolate.

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>> Don't say this. You're gonna get in

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trouble,

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>> dog. There's 18 stores in [ __ ] uh you

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know, you got to figure it out. I'm not

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ratting nobody out. They know what's

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going on. The cops.

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>> They got a back I mean that packaged

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mushrooms all different flavors. Blue

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Hawaii whole thing.

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>> This week I go to Atlantic City. I go to

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this one Everel whatever. It's supposed

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to be the big one.

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>> The big one.

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>> The big weed store in Atlantic City. And

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it's right by the casino. So, as I pull

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up, I park my car in front. As I walk

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out, there's four yolked brothers.

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Yolked with gold chains on in one of

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those [ __ ] suburban millionaire cars.

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What do you call the big truck

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>> Escalades?

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>> No, the other one. The the one that

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looks like they're attacking your town.

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Not the

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>> Oh, AMG G Wagons.

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>> I don't [ __ ] know. Anyway, they're in

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there. They're in there bumping [ __ ] and

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they see me and they go, "Yo, we know

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you." And I go, "Yeah, what up, brother?

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Hold on. I'll catch you on the way out."

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I thought by the time I got out they

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would leave.

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>> Right.

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>> So I went in, I come out and they're all

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outside their cars. All four brothers.

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Yo, big gold chains like, "Yo, you're

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the [ __ ] that goes on Rogan."

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No, that's the [ __ ] from the

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longest yard. We looked you up. So

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they're talking to me, talking to me.

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We're rocking and rolling. Rogan

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[snorts] the UFC. Yo, what do you think

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about that? And I'm loving it. But in

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the middle of all this, this black

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little homeless crackhead walks his way

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over and I could hear him ask the other

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guy, "Who's this white motherfucker?"

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And the black guy goes, "That's the dude

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from The Longest Yard. You know the

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football movie." The black guy comes

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over and I see him. Walk right over. He

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goes, "Hey, Mr. Football Man, why don't

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you break out a dollar for me?" He just

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bummed me out a dollar. I had to give

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him 10. I was so [ __ ] embarrassed in

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front of you break out a dollar for me.

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>> Why don't you break out a dollar for me,

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Mr. Football Star? I gave him a 10. This

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[ __ ] ran. He walked up with a

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limp, but he ran away.

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>> Like, he was going right for crack. I'm

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like, these [ __ ] they got a

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game for everything.

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>> I love it. I love all that [ __ ] Joe.

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>> It's fun to be around wacky people every

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now and then.

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>> Just people living on the edge.

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>> But that Atlantic City outside those

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casinos, bro, that shit's real.

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>> We saw a drug transaction right on the

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street when we were down there last.

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>> Bro, I'm surprised you didn't see a

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hooker get mugged or something like

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that. [laughter]

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They are not [ __ ] around. I took a

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ride Saturday night about 10. Just take

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a little ride.

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>> Sketchy,

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>> bro. You make a ride in some of those

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corners, you ain't coming back.

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>> And I thought by now they'd at least

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build up the outside of AC.

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>> No, no, no, no, no, no. It's barely

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making money. You know, a AC doesn't do

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well. Not like Vegas does. You know what

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I mean? Like AC's got some nice spots.

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You can go there and have a good time,

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but it's not like it's going to grow.

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>> You go to Borgat with the Italians and

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[ __ ]

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>> The outside's too sketch. the Borgata.

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All the Italians go down with their

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white shoes on the week. Hey, it's got

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old. What up? You know,

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>> but no, they I don't like the Borgata

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that much. I like the I like the couple

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hotels down there.

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>> There's some nice places.

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>> Yeah, we stayed in the BA when it first

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opened. You and I, you had a gig there.

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You had a gig there.

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>> That's right. The thing is, it's not

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going to grow like Vegas is. You know,

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Vegas is crazy. See, when Vegas had a

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head start. The thing like if they tried

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to make Vegas now, oo, tough cell. Tough

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sell. Too many places to go. You can

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gamble everywhere. You can gamble on

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your phone now. But when Vegas was

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first, there was no casinos in the

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country, dog. It was just Vegas. And I

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wonder if they made some sort of a deal.

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Well, let them blow off atomic bombs.

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They blow off these atomic bombs and

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then we'll, you know, we'll put the

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casinos in.

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>> What's the difference? But then we

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looked it up and it turned out they made

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Vegas before the atomic bomb.

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So I'm like, well, what? I guess it was

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just gangsters. They just bribed people

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or convinced people. There was nothing

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going on there.

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>> It was a pit stop. They opened up Vegas

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for a pit stop for American soldiers to

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stop on the way or something like that.

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>> Well, was it in the 30s, right? Was it

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the 30s, Jamie?

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>> Then the guy that owned the comedy store

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>> when Vegas was created.

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>> Yeah. And the guy that owned the comedy

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store, he was in charge of Vegas and he

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robbed and they shot him.

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>> Same guy as the comedy store.

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>> Same guy as the comedy store. So

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>> he was in charge.

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>> He's [ __ ] genius. That [ __ ] that

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[ __ ] was a genius. Well, he got

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shot because he stole at the end the

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expenses and

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>> Oh, is that what it was?

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>> The casinos, you know, he gave in those

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days they borrowed money from the unions

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in Chicago.

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>> And then you borrowed that and you

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worked off those uh teamster loans,

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>> those Jimmy Hoffer loans.

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>> Oh, yeah.

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>> So, you had to build on those. Well, the

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expenses never stopped,

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>> right?

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>> And they were like, "What the [ __ ] is

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going on?" And he was hanging out with

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Jane Seymour or something, going back

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and forth like a millionaire, like a

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movie star, and they ain't lagging. They

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shot him.

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>> That's why they shot him,

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>> I think. So, they shot him in his house

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in his eyeball or something.

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>> Yeah. In his eyeball.

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>> Something like that. I remember that.

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So,

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>> yeah, there's a picture of his dead body

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allegedly online

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>> in LA, right? They shot him in LA.

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>> So, that was all because of the casinos.

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Huh.

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>> But then they made it, you know, it's

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like when we first went to Denver. The

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money was too good.

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>> I don't give a [ __ ] if if it's Jesus and

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his three disciples, they're going to

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take that envelope. It's too good.

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>> Well, you know what it was going on in

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the beginning? They weren't allowed to

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use credit cards, so everything had to

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be cash.

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>> Cash. Yeah. And it was crazy. So these

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guys were leaving the [ __ ] and they

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bring like six special forces guys with

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them. They'd have [ __ ] green berets

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and Navy Seals and [ __ ] like armed to

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the tits because they're transferring

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millions of dollars in cash.

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>> So the whole thing was nuts, man. It was

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nuts. I I read this story about the

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dilemma like these people are making all

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this money and the crazy thing is the

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state was making all that money too

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because the taxes on the legal weed.

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Look this up, please.

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>> It's amazing.

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>> I think it was like 39%.

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>> It's [ __ ] crazy.

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>> And everybody was like, "Sure."

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>> Like, you would never accept 39% on

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alcohol. You never accept 39% on ground

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beef.

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>> No.

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>> But 39% on weed. You're like, "I'll take

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it."

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>> During the pandemic in LA, you had to

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buy an extra tax to go open. That's why

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they called them uh what do they called

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those businesses that had to be open?

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>> Dispensaries.

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>> No, no, no. They're businesses that they

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had a purpose to be open during the

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pandemic.

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>> Oh, right. Essential.

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>> Essentials. Yeah. They made that

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essential, but they they charge an extra

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t 10% tax. You know,

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>> they're making so much money off weed in

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California.

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>> But now look at all the weed stores.

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They're starting to close,

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>> are they?

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>> And in Jersey, they created a dilemma

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because the state convinced them that

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they had a build and all this [ __ ] So

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all these places started, you know, you

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you're opening up a shop minus 3 mil.

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Listen, it's a lot of $20 bags to get

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the three three mil.

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>> A lot. And not only that, there's a lot

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of competition. How many weed stores are

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in LA? It's bananas,

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>> bro. In Englishtown, New Jersey. There's

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four of them. And here's where it gets

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better. They're all on the same block.

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>> Wow. Do you Did you ever go to that

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place in Englewood with me back when it

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was uh Only Medical? The Englewood?

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>> We used to get the lollipops. Yeah.

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>> Yes. Yeah. I went there one time with

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you.

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>> You know, the guy that ran that got

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shot.

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>> That dude that we used to deal with, he

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got shot in that store.

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>> They killed him.

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>> No, I think he lived. Uh I'm not sure

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though. Look that up. He might have

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died.

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>> Yeah. It's the first place you had the

15:04

lollipops from on Fear Factor.

15:06

>> Yes.

15:07

>> It was from that guy, right?

15:08

>> Yeah. Englewood Wellness Center. That

15:09

was in the '9s. That was in the days

15:12

where it was uh legal uh if you had a

15:15

medical reason. And any medical reason

15:17

would do. Oh, my feet hurt. Get in

15:19

there. [laughter]

15:20

>> Sign them up.

15:21

>> But anybody who does martial arts uh has

15:25

the pain excuse because everybody's in

15:28

pain and it does help you with pain.

15:30

There's a like if you could take

15:31

aspirin, THC, like gummies with CBD are

15:35

phenomenal for aches and pains, man.

15:38

>> You remember Dave Foley?

15:39

>> Yeah.

15:40

>> Dave Foley's hand, Of course you do.

15:42

Dave Foley's hand was all [ __ ] up from

15:44

arthritis. He started taking CBD and now

15:47

his hand is full function again.

15:49

>> CBD is amazing.

15:50

>> CBD's They just blew it up out of

15:52

content a couple years ago.

15:53

>> Well, who knows who's making it and what

15:55

the quality, right? But no,

15:57

>> that's the things when when things are

15:59

gray, you get a bunch of douchebags

16:01

making stuff. You know, I used to have a

16:02

bit about that about the gummy bears.

16:04

Like they're not making these gummy

16:06

bears in the same labs where they're

16:07

making Tylenol. They're very

16:08

inconsistent. You get one of them, you

16:11

swear it's a thousand milligrams and the

16:12

other one feels like it's like a 100.

16:14

They barely make sense. Back in the day,

16:16

back in, you know, when the it was the

16:18

wild west,

16:18

>> I got 500 milligrams in my pocket. They

16:21

feel [laughter] like 500 milligrams

16:23

whether you take

16:23

>> Well, now I don't think you could do

16:24

that anymore. I'm talking about like way

16:26

back in the day it was different because

16:29

way back in the day there was like it

16:30

was the wild west.

16:32

>> First of all, way back in the day they

16:33

didn't put warnings on this [ __ ] No.

16:35

>> You didn't know how many milligrams were

16:36

in this stuff. And I remember eating a

16:38

brownie one time and flying up to

16:39

Pittsburgh and the red eye and my leg

16:41

wouldn't stop tapping. Like [laughter]

16:43

it wouldn't stop [ __ ] tapping.

16:45

>> I remember one time we were on a plane.

16:46

You had a panic attack and then you

16:49

waited like an hour later and then

16:51

popped two more. [laughter]

16:52

>> [ __ ] yeah. I was like, "How are you

16:54

doing that?" You're like, "Joe Rogan, I

16:56

almost got off the plane. I couldn't

16:58

take it. I couldn't breathe. My [ __ ]

17:00

heart was closing. It was like my chest

17:02

was closing in on me. The walls were

17:04

closing in. I thought the plane was

17:05

going to crash. I was freaking out. I

17:07

almost had turn the [ __ ] plane

17:08

around.

17:09

>> But I'm back, baby. Two more."

17:11

>> You have no idea what I put myself

17:13

through over the years.

17:14

>> Why do you do that?

17:15

>> Because I just want to take a chance.

17:16

Columbus did. I mean, [laughter]

17:18

I'm sitting at home. It's 2:00 in the

17:20

afternoon. You're bored as [ __ ] be like

17:23

the devil.

17:23

>> Let's see what happens. And the only

17:25

thing that would hold me back is if I

17:26

had a spot that night.

17:27

>> Oh, yeah.

17:28

>> Then I would tame it and be like a

17:30

couple hundred milligrams. But

17:31

>> you don't want to go up on stage with

17:33

too much edible.

17:34

>> Yes, you do.

17:35

>> Sometimes. Yes, you do. Sometimes you

17:37

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it's important to go off into the woods,

18:36

right? Yeah. Sometimes you should stay

18:38

on the trail.

18:38

>> Yeah. But listen,

18:39

>> you filming a special, stay on the

18:41

trail.

18:41

>> Last week I went to do a spot. I

18:42

figured, let me wait five weeks. I

18:44

haven't been on stage since April 18th.

18:46

Let me go do a spot. I'm nervous. I get

18:49

down there and there's 50 people.

18:51

Perfect. Break my cherry. Do it.

18:55

I got into such a groove. I ended up

18:56

doing an hour. That was because the

18:58

edible I took before I went on stage. No

19:00

material. I told you that I got nothing.

19:02

>> Right.

19:02

>> That's it. I'm starting over from

19:04

scratch.

19:04

>> Got nothing. I talked about going to the

19:06

hospital and then it just became

19:08

something else. And at the end, I was up

19:10

there an hour.

19:10

>> Wow. Wow. My leg was starting to [ __ ]

19:12

throb. But

19:13

>> did you film it or record or anything?

19:14

>> No, I just I didn't know it was going to

19:16

be gold. I just

19:17

>> Right. Right.

19:18

>> But that's why THC somebody said THC is

19:22

like a a band substance for comics

19:25

because it make if you really let it

19:27

absorb you and I'm not telling you to

19:29

smoke pop, but that I had an audition.

19:31

Whenever I have an audition, I read it.

19:33

I put it away. I get stoned. And then I

19:36

go back and I look at it again. Complete

19:38

different sheet. Now I can pick out

19:41

things. Now I could point.

19:42

>> Then I leave it again. I get high and I

19:44

come back like an hour later. And that's

19:47

what I think THC makes me just relax.

19:49

Look, look, I live in anxiety naturally.

19:52

Naturally. I beat myself up. This

19:55

morning it's 8:30. I'm drinking coffee

19:56

outside the four seasons. I'm like, why

19:58

am I thought I had somewhere to go,

20:01

>> dude?

20:02

>> I got nowhere to go.

20:03

>> You just gave yourself an anxiety for no

20:04

reason.

20:05

>> Yeah, cuz I always think I got somewhere

20:06

to [ __ ] go at 10:00 in the morning.

20:08

That's why when my daughter gets on that

20:09

bus to school at 7:15, I start blasting

20:12

[laughter]

20:13

>> because then I know I ain't got nowhere

20:15

to go. Like, you know, you make a list

20:16

every day and you go, "This is what I'm

20:18

going to do today."

20:19

>> And then you [ __ ] uh, you know,

20:22

>> wake up and you look at that list after

20:24

you smoke and you're like,

20:25

>> "That's a long drive up to New York City

20:27

today. I ain't doing that podcast." You

20:29

know, [laughter]

20:31

that's a [ __ ] long drive up into that

20:34

[ __ ]

20:35

>> Yeah. The driving in New York is not a

20:37

joke. That's an endeavor.

20:38

>> Yeah. No,

20:39

>> you got you got to take a day. Like

20:40

that's your day. Your day is driving in

20:42

and driving out. You're not going to the

20:44

gym. You're not doing all that other

20:45

stuff like No, I'm saying if you if got

20:47

to drive into New Jersey, that's your

20:49

day. It's not like, "Oh, I'll go there.

20:52

That's at noon. I'll hit the gym at

20:54

2:30." Uh-uh. No, you won't. You'll be

20:56

in traffic for 3 hours.

20:57

>> For 3 hours.

20:59

>> I always go to do that [ __ ] early and

21:00

get it over with. And uh like on days

21:02

that I have to go to the city up north,

21:05

I'll just take that as a day off. Like

21:07

I'll work that day before so I could go

21:09

up there comfortably and not sweat it.

21:11

>> Yeah.

21:11

>> But it's got some days I get up and I'm

21:13

like, I'm not going up there. I got to

21:14

work out today.

21:15

>> Listen, this is one of the big things

21:17

that Texas has or Austin has in

21:19

particular over the East Coast is the

21:22

[ __ ] traffic. The traffic here is a

21:24

joke. They talk about traffic. It's

21:26

adorable. You might be 10 extra minutes.

21:29

>> Whoopde-doo. It's adorable. Occasionally

21:32

a car accident happens and there's a

21:34

bunch of people stopped. That [ __ ]

21:36

happens everywhere in the world. But for

21:38

the most part, the East Coast is so

21:41

thick with people. You don't realize it

21:44

until you have to make that trip to New

21:46

Jersey and back and forth. You know,

21:49

when we do uh the UFC's, if we go into

21:52

New Jersey uh to the UFC and then with

21:54

the weigh-ins, then we have to go back

21:55

to New York to play pool

21:56

>> at 6:00. That's pool. Oh my god, it's

22:00

crazy. Go to New York to eat and to play

22:01

pool and it's [ __ ] it's a mad house.

22:04

>> Think about it. What it was like the

22:05

last two weeks. Jim Florentine said he

22:08

went into the city Saturday was 3 hours

22:11

because of the Nick [ __ ] They

22:12

weren't even playing.

22:14

>> They weren't even playing.

22:16

>> People were so upset that Trump was

22:17

going to go to the NBA because if he's

22:20

there then they have all these crazy

22:22

security protocols. It makes the traffic

22:24

even worse.

22:25

>> There was no parties. There was no

22:27

nothing. He should stick to the UFC.

22:29

They're going to boo him everywhere

22:30

else.

22:30

>> Oh, they booed him to I didn't watch the

22:32

whole game. I was out.

22:33

>> Some people cheered. I heard it was like

22:34

cheers and booze, but the problem is

22:37

>> if there's cheers and any booze there if

22:40

there's like 50/50 like that's that's

22:43

don't go to that spot. Go to the UFC.

22:46

People say he got booed at the UFC. I've

22:48

seen him at the UFC

22:50

six times or something like that. I

22:51

don't know how many times. Never get

22:53

booed.

22:53

>> They love him.

22:54

>> He's never gotten booed. They [ __ ]

22:55

cheer. The people that say they're

22:57

booing him, you're distorting reality.

22:59

It's not true. They cheer him like he he

23:02

walks in there to the American badass

23:03

song. Especially if Kid Rock is with him

23:06

and Dana White's behind him and then

23:08

sometimes Tucker Carlson was there too

23:10

back on when they were close. It was

23:12

like the conservative Avengers. It was

23:14

like this is ridiculous. They

23:16

>> He was the kiss of death last night. I

23:17

bet against the Knicks last night. Me

23:18

and Jamie, we were like, "Fuck that.

23:21

Getting two and a half.

23:22

>> Why they only giving two and a half?

23:23

They're up two games. What are you a

23:25

[ __ ]

23:26

>> Two and a half. They were given last

23:28

night. Everybody in their mother, even

23:29

[ __ ] your daughter bet the Knicks

23:31

last night giving two and a half.

23:33

>> Do you um bet sports all the time?

23:36

>> How often you bet [snorts]

23:38

>> this type of the year? I bet basketball

23:40

because it's real. There's defense.

23:42

>> Do you use uh do you use an app? Like

23:44

what do you do? Draftings. DraftKings.

23:45

You do it on DraftKings.

23:46

>> Everything is on DraftKings.

23:47

>> All right. You don't have a bookie?

23:49

>> No.

23:50

>> Yeah.

23:50

>> No. I enjoy because DraftKings has so

23:53

many fun. Like there's bookies out

23:54

there. Like they just keep busting these

23:56

mafia rings in Jersey and New York. 39

23:59

people. They had the big bust last year

24:00

with the basketball coaches that they

24:03

put the cards up and you could see

24:04

through the [ __ ] cards on the table.

24:06

It's a it's gambling has grown to a

24:09

[ __ ] nightmare. We're going to pay

24:11

for this in 5 years. But when I went to

24:13

college after orientation, you walked

24:16

out and there was credit card companies,

24:17

Discover, Mastercard, Visa, and they

24:20

give you a credit card for being a

24:22

student for 250 automatic right there.

24:25

And that now when you go to those

24:27

orientation days, DraftKings is there.

24:29

>> You know, the other ones, FanDuel's

24:31

there, and I'm not putting them down. I

24:32

love DraftKings, but you're coping these

24:35

kids. These kids don't have enough

24:36

problems with [ __ ] student loans

24:38

>> right

24:39

>> now. I'm going to put a [ __ ] thing.

24:41

More people are gambling more than ever.

24:43

>> Than ever than ever.

24:44

>> In Australia, too. My buddy McCann, you

24:47

know, James McCann. Yeah. He was talking

24:48

about how crazy it is in Australia.

24:51

>> Yeah. It's uh it's in What is those?

24:53

What's the odds on the Ilia Taporia

24:56

Justin Gatey fight at the White House?

24:59

>> To pick them, is it? No. No. Tapora has

25:03

to be a huge favorite. I guarantee

25:06

Tapora is two to one.

25:08

>> Four to one.

25:08

>> Four to one. Yeah. Oh my god.

25:11

>> Four to one's crazy. Two to one.

25:14

If you just think about what he's done

25:16

in his last three fights, he's had the

25:18

most legendary run in MMA championship

25:21

history. In his last three fights, he

25:22

knocked out three all-time greats.

25:25

Knocks out Alexander Vulcganowski,

25:28

knocks out Max Holloway, knocks out

25:31

Charles Olivivera. Three in a row. Like,

25:33

anybody who could do that, you go, I'm

25:35

not [ __ ] betting anything against

25:37

that guy. But Justin Gachi is a tough

25:41

character, son.

25:43

>> So if I bet 25 bucks on Gage, I win

25:47

>> 100

25:48

>> 100. 4 to one.

25:49

>> Four to one. Yeah. Um which is uh Look,

25:53

it's minus 426 for Toporia. They're like

25:56

4 to1 is not enough.

25:57

>> Caesar says 600.

25:58

>> Caesar says 600. Caesars is smart.

26:02

[laughter]

26:03

But the thing is, man, don't think that

26:05

Justin Gai can't win. Like anybody can

26:08

lose in an MMA fight. People get hit.

26:11

Like in Iliot Aoria, one of his early

26:13

fights, one of I think his first fight

26:15

in the UFC at lightweight, he took it on

26:16

short notice and he fought this dude um

26:20

Jai Herbert who's a really tall, really

26:23

good striker. And Jai Herbert caught him

26:26

with a head kick in the first round, a

26:28

switch kick to the dome that dropped

26:30

him. It was perfect, but he recovered

26:33

brilliant. He got a hold of him, took

26:35

him to the ground, recovered, and then

26:37

came back and devastating knockout in

26:40

the second round. Like, he [ __ ] puts

26:43

people into orbit, man. His power is

26:46

crazy. He's not a big guy either, man.

26:48

Justin's a much bigger guy than him, but

26:51

the way he knocks guys out, it's just

26:53

dead. He knocks them out dead. But so

26:56

does Gachi. People forget it. Gachi is a

27:00

[ __ ] Warhammer, dude. That guy loves

27:03

battles. He loves

27:04

>> saying this is not I don't think

27:06

>> it's a tough fight, man.

27:07

>> This is a tough [ __ ] fight. I could

27:08

both this and this is this Sunday,

27:10

right? Correct.

27:10

>> It's this Sunday. Gachi's bigger. So,

27:13

[ __ ] yeah. I'm going. So, Gachi's

27:15

bigger. Gatechi used to fight um at um

27:19

what was it called? The IFL. Was it

27:22

whatever the organization was before the

27:24

he came to the UFC? I think it was it

27:27

was before the PFL. It was like another

27:29

one. But what was it? What did he What

27:32

was the organiz You know, there's these

27:34

feeder organizations like the PFL. A lot

27:36

of really good fighters that wind up

27:38

becoming champions start out there.

27:41

>> Was that it?

27:42

>> World Series of Fighting. That's right.

27:43

That's what it was. And I mean, he was

27:46

[ __ ] people up with leg kicks. But it

27:48

was the way he was fighting would just

27:50

throw himself into chaos.

27:53

>> Like he he didn't fight tactically at

27:55

all back then.

27:56

>> No. like the you ever see the Michael

27:58

Johnson fight with him in the UFC.

28:00

>> It's his first fight in the UFC. It's

28:02

one of the craziest [ __ ] fights ever

28:04

because he just [ __ ] throws himself

28:07

at Michael Johnson and Michael Johnson

28:10

throws himself right back. I It was a

28:12

They got hurt. Both guys got cracked. It

28:14

was a crazy fight, but eventually Justin

28:17

got him. But it was the way he fought

28:19

you like good lord.

28:20

>> Yeah, he fights

28:21

>> like a pitbull. [clears throat] Like a

28:22

pitbull. Like no concern for his safety.

28:24

Just dive in. It was a [ __ ] crazy

28:27

fight. And look how Dustin is always

28:30

just trying to kill you. He's always

28:32

move. Look at that. Every shot he's

28:33

trying to [ __ ] kill you. He's always

28:35

moving forward trying to smash you. And

28:38

the thing is he relishes this kind of

28:40

combat so much that in the beginning he

28:43

lost some fights that he could have won

28:45

if he tempered it. If and then he did.

28:48

So, and then when he went on this like

28:50

legendary run, started beating

28:51

everybody. It's really because he

28:54

controlled the violence a little bit

28:55

more. He controlled the chaos, but it

28:58

was still like very technical violence.

29:00

It wasn't like he was brawling dumb. He

29:04

was just forcing himself into chaos so

29:06

much. He was throwing himself right into

29:08

the fire over and over and over again.

29:11

This is a dangerous [ __ ] guy. He's a

29:14

dangerous [ __ ] guy for anybody.

29:17

>> I mean, he had hit Kabib. He hurt him

29:19

with some calf kicks.

29:20

>> His He could do that, too. He leg kicks

29:22

you from inside the clinch. One of the

29:25

things that he does really well is from

29:27

like he could get you with like a collar

29:29

tie and he's leg kicking you. Look, he

29:31

gives him the finger and tells him to

29:32

get up. I mean, Michael Johnson's

29:33

getting battered. This is a tough fight

29:35

for him at this point. We're in round

29:37

two. Look at that knee to the body.

29:40

Just everything's trying to kill you.

29:42

It's not like uh this tactical

29:46

take a chance here, take a chance there.

29:48

No, everything's take a chance. It's

29:49

like from the very beginning of the

29:51

fight and this is how he fight. He

29:52

eventually took him out. But it was a

29:54

crazy fight.

29:55

>> He fights like I told you Haggler used

29:57

to fight. They weren't thinking about

29:59

brain damage,

30:00

>> right?

30:00

>> Haggler, all those dudes were not

30:02

thinking about that. We were talking

30:04

about that with with football before.

30:06

>> You know what I just watched the other

30:07

day? Mustafa Ham Show. Haggler versus

30:10

Mustafa Ham Show.

30:11

>> Did they battle?

30:13

>> Haggler took him out. But it was just

30:15

Haggler in his prime. He was beautiful

30:18

at that, bro. He was so [ __ ] so good.

30:21

He was so good. And he was so good at

30:23

switching stances, man. When no one was

30:25

doing that back then. Haggler would

30:27

fight southpaw. He would fight Orthodox.

30:29

He would [ __ ] you up. You didn't know

30:30

where it was coming from. And he could

30:32

fight just as good Southpaw as he could

30:34

Orthodox. It was amazing. It was an

30:36

amazing fight to watch. Like, god, that

30:38

guy was great. So disciplined.

30:41

>> Yeah. Some good fights this week. I'm

30:43

excited for the car. I thought it was

30:44

Saturday.

30:45

>> Yeah. Amy posted up that the serial gun

30:47

Alex Pereira fight is the closest fight

30:49

in the card is in terms of odds. It's

30:51

like even odds and that's a that's a

30:55

serial gun's a tall order. That's a tall

30:57

order for your first heavyweight fight

30:59

in the UFC.

30:59

>> Caesar says that as a pickum.

31:01

>> A pickum. Yeah, I would say it's a pick

31:03

them. I would say it's a pickham. Um

31:06

Sirill Gan is really good. And the thing

31:08

about Sirill Gan is the problems that

31:11

he's had in fights or when guys take him

31:13

down. when guys stand with him, he is

31:16

very tricky. He's very slick. He's very

31:20

technical and he's he's very light on

31:22

his feet for a big guy. Like he moves

31:25

really well. Like one of the best movers

31:27

in the heavyweight division for sure.

31:29

He's he's like he dances on his feet. He

31:31

also does a weird thing off his front

31:33

leg. He throws a front kick when he's

31:36

standing sideways like in a bladed

31:38

stance like this and he picks it up and

31:41

twists it into your stomach. Bang. Like

31:43

that. It's weird. Like it works. Oh, no.

31:46

It's a kick. I mean, it's called a

31:48

twisting kick. Twisting kick.

31:49

>> It's just you don't ever see people

31:52

throwing that kick from the front leg

31:53

like he does. Like, he does a lot of

31:56

>> he does a lot of weird [ __ ] that you

31:58

have to get used to. Like that Tom

32:00

Aspenol fight, man. He was he was

32:02

scoring very well on the feet. And I

32:04

know it got stopped because of the eye

32:05

pokes, but before the eye poke, Sirill

32:07

Gan was doing very well on the feed

32:09

against Aspenol. And Aspenol is a big

32:11

fast heavyweight.

32:13

It's going to be interesting because I

32:15

don't I don't you know know if Pereira

32:18

is going to have an issue with the

32:19

movement, you know, if he's going to be

32:21

able to shut that movement down and I

32:22

don't know if Sirill Gan is going to be

32:24

able to like if he's going to want

32:26

exchange with him. He might feel that

32:28

power and say I'm just going to fight on

32:30

the outside cuz Pereira's got that you

32:32

make one mistake power.

32:35

>> He looks good at heavyweight.

32:36

>> He looks like he gained the weight. He

32:38

looks yolked.

32:39

>> He's he's huge. And on top of that, no

32:41

dieting. So no depleting of his body at

32:44

all. You're going to have a guy

32:46

competing for the first time where he's

32:49

never had to cut weight. That's huge.

32:53

That's a giant advantage. Not having to

32:55

cut weight is like they let you take

32:56

steroids. You can't you don't have to

32:58

cut weight. No cutting weight at all. If

33:00

they changed weight cutting, if they cut

33:02

all weight cutting out of MMA, you'd

33:04

have like 20% better performances.

33:07

people would be fighting so much better

33:09

because they would they would feel so

33:10

much healthier. They would be so much

33:12

more durable. There wouldn't be as many

33:13

like one-shot knockouts where you're

33:15

like, "Whoa, that got them." Because a

33:17

lot of these guys like their brain is

33:19

still dehydrated when they're in there

33:21

fighting. It's only 24 hours after they

33:23

rehydrate. That's not enough time to get

33:25

to the brain.

33:26

>> I would go to weighins with you and

33:28

these guys would come in like they

33:30

looking like they had cancer.

33:31

>> They look dead. Yeah.

33:32

>> They I would see them and then they

33:34

would IV in the back. Then I think they

33:35

cut out IVs afterwards. They cut out

33:37

IVs.

33:38

>> I remember being there with you and

33:39

looking at these guys coming in.

33:40

>> They were dying.

33:41

>> They looked like they were on that

33:43

[ __ ] GLP for 10 years. Like [ __ ]

33:46

Sharon Osborne's daughter. I mean, they

33:47

were looking [ __ ] up, Jack.

33:49

>> Yeah, they looked dead. Some guys looked

33:51

real. You remember when Anderson Silva

33:52

fought Travis Lutter? Do you remember

33:54

that fight?

33:54

>> Yeah. The jiu-jitsu guy from Texas?

33:56

>> Exactly.

33:56

>> Yes.

33:57

>> He That was the worst I ever saw anybody

33:59

at a weigh-in.

34:00

>> He looked really [ __ ]

34:01

>> And again, this was not the ceremonial

34:03

weigh-in like we have now. This was like

34:04

the actual weigh in. See if you can make

34:06

the weight. And Travis couldn't walk. He

34:08

was shuffling. He couldn't pick his legs

34:10

up. His his lips were cracked. Like he

34:13

his body was dried out.

34:14

>> Can't be good for you like that. And

34:16

then to pick it back up and then go

34:17

throw rounds, throw punches 8:00 the

34:20

next night.

34:21

>> Meanwhile, I mean, he was so depleted,

34:23

but he got a hold of Anderson the first

34:25

round. It took him down. And that's what

34:26

he wanted to do. And Travis in Texas.

34:29

>> Yeah. [laughter]

34:30

>> Kevin Holland's uh coach.

34:32

>> Oh [ __ ] Yeah.

34:33

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Travis is a bad

34:34

[ __ ]

34:35

>> Was a bad [ __ ]

34:36

>> He was a when guys rolled with him on

34:38

the Ultimate Fighter. You know, one of

34:40

um one of the best compliments one of

34:42

the guys said, he goes, "Dude," he goes,

34:43

"I've rolled with only a couple guys

34:45

like that is like him and Ricardo

34:47

Laboro." I go, "Really?" I go, "That guy

34:49

feels like Ricardo Laboro. He's that

34:51

level." He goes, he's like, "Dude, he

34:53

was running through people. Just running

34:55

through people on the ground." Travis

34:57

was a beast. He was one of the first

34:59

like truly elite Brazilian jiu-jitsu

35:02

black belts in like the modern era, like

35:04

the Anderson Silva era. Whereas when he

35:06

got guys to the ground, you were in

35:07

trouble. You're in real trouble. There's

35:10

a few guys Charles Olivera is the big

35:12

one. Charles Olivera puts people in

35:14

positions they're like, "Oh no, what

35:15

have I done?" Like you think you're

35:16

going to be comfortable like in his

35:18

guard like pitch. You're never going to

35:20

be comfortable on the ground with

35:21

Olivea. Olive is just so dangerous

35:23

everywhere.

35:24

>> 20 years of jiu-jitsu, correct? 20

35:26

years. They've been doing since they

35:27

were a kid. Yep. So, it's like stand up.

35:29

>> Great camp. He's from that shoot the box

35:31

camp. I mean, that camp produced

35:33

Anderson Silva. Um, Marie, um, Ninja,

35:38

uh, Shogun, like who else? No.

35:41

>> Ple Ple, the one of the original MMA

35:44

fighters back in the bare knuckle days.

35:46

He was the the top dude in the original

35:49

in the original days. No, Noggera is not

35:51

from Shootbox. Noggera is a Carlson

35:53

Gracie guy. Those was he is Carlson

35:57

Gracie, right? No,

35:59

>> Carlson's in Chicago.

36:01

>> No, no Ggera wasn't Carlson Gracie.

36:03

Noggera was um I don't want to get that

36:06

wrong. Who was Noggera's trainer?

36:08

Menitaro Noggera, his original jiu-jitsu

36:11

coach.

36:13

>> [ __ ] brother. Probably.

36:15

>> No, both of them were elite teasing you.

36:17

They were twins.

36:18

>> They were twins, right?

36:19

>> Yeah, they were twins. They were both

36:20

elite. They were both like world class

36:22

fighters in pride.

36:26

Does it say his jiu-jitsu coach?

36:29

>> Pull up his wik.

36:31

>> Minotauro was the first like he was the

36:34

first guy that was like finishing elite

36:37

guys off of his back in pride. Like he

36:41

was tapping to like when he was the

36:42

champion in pride. Like you remember

36:44

when he beat Bob Sap?

36:46

>> No.

36:47

>> Bob Sap was 350 lbs with abs. And the

36:52

the fight was crazy. He picks Minotauro

36:54

up and spikes him on his head in the

36:56

beginning of the fight. [ __ ] his neck

36:58

up for years. Like his neck was [ __ ]

37:00

up after that fight and still survived

37:02

and eventually caught Bob Sappin and

37:04

Armbar, but it was bananas.

37:07

Omry Bet. Okay. Yeah, there you go. Omry

37:10

Bet is another guy who fought early in

37:12

the UFC.

37:14

So that's his coach for one. Where did

37:16

he get his black belt? Just see where he

37:19

got his black belt from.

37:27

Just ask the question, who gave

37:29

Minotaurro his black belt?

37:37

Uh, let me say, okay, Hicardo Daha,

37:43

that's his primary instructor.

37:46

There you go. Okay.

37:49

Yeah, he was. Uh,

37:50

>> so we could assume he invented the delah

37:54

he hook

37:55

>> probably. There's a bunch of moves that

37:57

are attributed to guys that it's not

38:00

quite sure whether or not they invented

38:02

it, but they were really good at it, you

38:04

know.

38:05

>> How much fun is that getting somebody

38:06

and taking them down?

38:08

>> It's fun.

38:08

>> I can't finish the leg lock. I never

38:10

could. I'm [ __ ] terrible. I can't get

38:12

my arms around it. I'm [ __ ] My

38:14

shoulders are [ __ ] up.

38:15

>> Leg locks are scary.

38:17

>> Yeah, I don't like all of that [ __ ] You

38:18

[ __ ] them up, you know, you twist the

38:20

wrong way, you turn the wrong way, you

38:22

hear things pop. E, scary.

38:25

>> You still training with private? No

38:26

more?

38:27

>> No, I haven't over a year. I haven't

38:28

done any coming in with you.

38:30

>> I was for a while. I have a I got a knee

38:32

problem. It's much better now. I've been

38:34

really working on it over the last 6

38:36

months, but it kept swelling after a

38:38

while. The the thing is it would get

38:40

better and uh I'd it would feel pretty

38:42

good and then I'd hurt it again. And

38:44

usually I heard it like a year ago

38:46

hunting. I twisted it. hunting and then

38:50

um I've I've also heard it like hitting

38:52

the back too. Like sometimes I just

38:54

start whailing on the back

38:55

>> of you forget.

38:56

>> Yeah,

38:57

>> you forget.

38:57

>> It's just the next day it's sore as

38:59

[ __ ] It's like I don't have meniscus on

39:01

one part of my knee. So I have to make

39:03

sure that it doesn't get arthritic. You

39:05

know what I mean? Because

39:06

>> like I don't have to tell you like once

39:08

your knee gets bad, it's a real problem.

39:09

It's a problem. And so you got to like

39:12

walk that edge between when you don't

39:14

have cartilage or you don't have

39:16

meniscus and your cartilage is getting

39:17

bone on bone like that. Like you got to

39:19

be careful. You got to be careful.

39:21

They're getting real close to fixing

39:23

[ __ ] Real close. They're injecting like

39:26

different kinds of gels in people's

39:28

knees now that re replace the meniscus.

39:31

And they're also doing some new stem

39:32

cell therapy where they go into the bone

39:34

itself and it regenerates

39:35

>> cartage. But that gel, they always work

39:38

you with that gel. I think it's a new

39:40

one, Joey. It's a It's like a It's They

39:42

call it a biological matrix.

39:44

>> You need to [ __ ] get like a You need

39:46

to get like a uh insurance approval and

39:48

all that. Yeah, I did it. That's just

39:51

all those things. It's like when you see

39:52

an ad for somebody, do you have problems

39:55

sleeping? Buy this mouthpiece for

39:58

$29.99.

39:59

>> I don't think you got what they have now

40:01

because this is just released in

40:03

Germany. This is this is brand new. But

40:05

this gel, like I'm just saying to you,

40:07

the gel, the cortisol. I have friends

40:09

with knee problems and they tell me what

40:11

they go through and they go to different

40:13

doctors and it's the same [ __ ] we got

40:17

cortisol for you.

40:18

>> We got the gel. We're not going to do

40:20

the PRP and we don't do stem cell. So

40:23

you Joe regular, you don't do no

40:25

reading. This is what happened to me

40:27

with the [ __ ] why I did the surgery

40:29

in the first place. you had moved here

40:31

and I didn't know about ways to well if

40:33

not I wouldn't have never cut this knee

40:34

the first time never never

40:38

>> I didn't read up on it because when my

40:41

wife was pregnant I read up on all that

40:44

[ __ ] and I was I didn't want to have the

40:45

baby no more cuz it said when you're old

40:48

for 43 you'll die if you give them birth

40:50

like so if you're not ready when you get

40:52

older as a woman you know now women are

40:54

having kids at 50s and [ __ ] 55s

40:57

>> but a woman has to be she has like a

40:59

short window And they have a lot of

41:01

things that could go wrong with the

41:03

pregnancy. When I read that, I got

41:04

nervous for my wife. I'm like, she's

41:06

going to die on a [ __ ] table

41:08

>> and I'm stuck raising a girl. I don't

41:09

know how to [ __ ] raise a girl, you

41:10

know? What am I going to do here? So, I

41:12

didn't really I researched it a little

41:14

bit after I got the kn after I went and

41:17

I saw the [ __ ] the chisel and the

41:20

[ __ ] mallet on the table. I go, we

41:22

got to look into this when I get out of

41:24

here. Like, this is [ __ ] insane. I

41:26

would have never done the redo knee. I

41:29

would have waited, shot it with stem

41:31

cell, BPCed it. At that time, I was

41:34

still a little fearful of needles. So, I

41:36

was like, uh, BPC them everything is you

41:38

got to shoot it.

41:39

>> You're feel fearful of needles, but not

41:41

of a knee replacement. That's hilarious.

41:42

>> No, I'm broke. Now, I'm fine [laughter]

41:44

now. It took It took four days in the

41:46

hospital last year to [ __ ] like go.

41:49

One day they had to come in and take

41:50

blood out of me every 20 minutes for 3

41:52

hours.

41:53

>> Why?

41:54

>> It's that type of test. They shoot you

41:55

with something to see how you react to

41:57

it.

41:57

>> Wow. And dog, I didn't faint one time. I

42:00

don't faint no more. Unless like last

42:01

time I weighs too well. I went in there

42:03

hung over on those tequilas from

42:05

[laughter] the mother ship drinking that

42:06

Ron White juice and [ __ ] I went in

42:09

there with no breakfast like we need to

42:11

take blood out within minutes. I'm pale.

42:14

I'm sweating profusiously. They got to

42:15

put ice on my back and on my neck and

42:17

[ __ ] And when I did the when they turn

42:21

the switch off on your leg, what's that?

42:23

When you do that little before surgery,

42:26

when I first hurt the knee, they said,

42:28

"We're not going to give you pain

42:29

medication, but if you're really hurting

42:30

that bad, come on down here and we'll

42:32

give you a nerve block."

42:33

>> Oh, they give you a nerve block.

42:34

>> Joe Rogan. Holy [ __ ]

42:36

>> Well, who did that? Where' they do that?

42:38

>> Because the place where I went for

42:39

surgery, the first time they're [ __ ]

42:41

>> Uhhuh.

42:42

>> This place is specialized in all that

42:44

stuff. So, they have their own therapy.

42:47

They have their own uh like the surgeons

42:50

and then they have a pain department

42:52

>> that they talk to you

42:54

>> and they go listen you could take this

42:55

you want it we'll give it to you but

42:57

let's do this let's try it with this

42:59

they don't want you you know and I

43:00

understand it people lose their minds on

43:02

those [ __ ] things so I did the nerve

43:04

block first Joe

43:06

holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] and when I went to

43:10

the doctor about a month ago the girl

43:12

was like I was there that day I go when

43:14

I fainted she goes you didn't faint but

43:16

you sure came goes. She goes, "You lost

43:18

all the color in your face. It's crazy,

43:20

Joey. Had to drink water." And then the

43:24

epidural block. You ever do one of

43:25

those?

43:26

>> No. Well, no, I did when I got my knee

43:28

surgery.

43:28

>> Yeah, they always knee surgery you I

43:30

thought they put you out for those.

43:31

>> They did most of the time, but my first

43:34

ACL I asked if I could watch. And uh he

43:37

said, "You don't want to watch it?" I

43:39

go, "No, I do. I don't want to I only

43:41

want to get this done once. I want to

43:42

see it. Can I watch it?"

43:43

>> Where'd you see it? And they shot in a

43:44

nail on your spine.

43:46

Well, they shot it in my spine and so it

43:48

it you don't feel anything in your legs

43:50

and I watched him open my knee up and

43:52

put it together again.

43:54

>> [ __ ] you, Joe. That's [laughter]

43:58

>> the epidural block is one of the wor

44:00

>> I wanted to see. I'm like, I don't want

44:01

to do this once. I I didn't know that I

44:03

was going to have another ACL surgery.

44:05

Eight years.

44:05

>> So, you didn't get put out for your

44:06

surgery?

44:07

>> No, not the first one. The second one I

44:09

did.

44:11

>> That's insane, Joe. That's [ __ ]

44:12

insane. I love you that you're Zombo and

44:15

[ __ ] but

44:16

>> I wanted to watch.

44:17

>> No, I want to watch a lot of things.

44:18

>> I want to see what it looks like because

44:19

it's kind of crazy. They're going to

44:20

take your knee, take a slice out of your

44:22

patella tendon along with a chunk of

44:24

bone and a chunk of bone for your

44:26

kneecap and then they screw it back in

44:27

place. I'm like, this is crazy. I want

44:29

to watch. Held up. Still [clears throat]

44:33

good. The the real problem was the

44:34

meniscus. So, they didn't even take the

44:36

meniscus out then. They just um stitched

44:39

it up. There was a tear in the meniscus,

44:41

but it wasn't too bad. and he thought it

44:43

could heal, you know, cuz I was my in my

44:45

20s. I was like 23, I think, 22. Um, and

44:49

then, uh, over time it just got wore out

44:52

that that tear became a bucket handle

44:55

tear and then it would lock. So, it

44:58

would pull the meniscus would pull up

45:00

and like lock in place. It was [ __ ]

45:03

insanely painful. And I was like, "This

45:06

keeps happening." It happened a couple

45:07

of times. It was like it happened in

45:09

jiu-jitsu class and Eddie Bravo had to

45:11

take me to the doctor. So Eddie Bravo

45:12

had to drive my NSX. We drove straight

45:15

to the doctor and you know they tell me

45:18

I need to get my meniscus removed. I'm

45:20

like okay. And then he told me I need to

45:22

stop doing martial arts. I was like okay

45:24

that's cute.

45:25

>> That's the first thing they'll tell you.

45:26

>> Yeah. You got to stop doing martial

45:28

arts.

45:28

>> They everything. No martial arts. No

45:30

this.

45:31

>> 30 years later. [ __ ] you.

45:32

>> Can we get one of those in the medium

45:35

ones? What are these?

45:36

>> These are Alps. Those are That's Tucker

45:38

Carlson's one. It's uh Those are good.

45:40

It's uh six six milligrams. These are

45:43

threes. This is athletic nicotine.

45:45

That's threes. I like those. They don't

45:48

make you jittery.

45:49

Those those take a hell of a hit. Tucker

45:52

likes them strong.

45:52

>> I like them, but they [ __ ] I always

45:54

swallow them by mistake and they

45:55

[laughter] [ __ ] Next thing you know,

45:56

I'm [ __ ] pouches and [ __ ] I had

45:59

pouch. They have focus ones.

46:01

>> Yeah, that's that's these ultras.

46:03

>> Yeah, I do the ultras.

46:04

>> I don't have them in this room anymore.

46:06

I was doing those after I had the

46:07

surgery.

46:08

>> Those are great. Yeah, they are.

46:09

>> There's a bunch of really good things

46:10

for your focus. People that think it's

46:11

all [ __ ] you know, like that

46:13

neutropics are [ __ ] and you're

46:15

allowed to think whatever you want, but

46:17

trust me, from someone who uses uses his

46:19

brain for a living, there's a difference

46:21

between taking neutropics and not taking

46:23

them. It's not going to make you

46:24

smarter, but it'll make your brain

46:26

function at a better level. There's a

46:28

bunch of [ __ ] that works like that.

46:29

Like, you know those um those ketone

46:31

drinks, like ketone IQ, that helps a

46:33

lot.

46:34

>> Really?

46:34

>> Yeah. Your brain uses ketones. Your

46:36

brain uses ketones for focus. That's why

46:38

people that take ketogenic diets and go

46:40

on carnivore diet, they say it gives

46:42

them like more mental clarity. You have

46:43

more more focus. It's fact. Like I feel

46:47

different when I'm eating like clean. If

46:49

I'm eating like carnivore, just eggs and

46:51

steak, my brain works better 100%.

46:54

>> It's just not processing the carbs and

46:56

all the fog that comes with that. Not

46:58

that carbs are bad for you,

46:59

>> but when you um take this stuff, this

47:02

stuff is the [ __ ] This is my friend

47:04

Derek's Gorilla Mind. This is a

47:06

neutropic drink. It's

47:08

>> like an energy drink. No,

47:09

>> no, it's got some caffeine in. It's got

47:11

a good amount of caffeine, but it's got

47:12

a bunch of neutropics. So, there's a

47:14

bunch of like brain vitamins in there.

47:16

>> You know anything about

47:16

>> Yeah, I'm not selling this. This is uh

47:18

my friends,

47:19

>> you know, I'm not uh you know that I

47:21

have a great memory with dates and I can

47:23

take you to different situations,

47:25

>> stories.

47:26

>> I don't know what happened the last

47:27

three years.

47:29

>> How come? If I talked to you on a

47:31

Monday, which I usually do, you call me

47:33

Mondays on the way home at 6,

47:37

whatever we talked about by Thursday,

47:40

I don't remember. Like you'll say, "Call

47:42

me back. When you find out, I'll [ __ ]

47:44

forget now." Like just little things.

47:47

>> Recent this last few years.

47:49

>> Last few years. I could see, you know,

47:51

you know, you're 60. A lot of [ __ ]

47:52

changes. You You

47:54

>> You know, it's really weird. Joe, I need

47:56

eight now.

47:58

>> I need eight. Sorry. I need eight.

48:00

>> Eight what?

48:01

>> Hours of sleep. Eight. Solid. I got the

48:04

whoop. I need it.

48:05

>> Makes a difference.

48:06

>> Six and a half. Don't cut it. Done.

48:08

>> Done.

48:09

>> I need eight now. And don't get me

48:10

started on an hour nap or an hour or 15

48:12

nap at 2 or 3:00 in the afternoon. If I

48:15

get up in the morning, I get up at 6.

48:17

>> So I put her on the bus. I start smoking

48:19

weed at 9. I'm at a gym. I'm doing

48:21

something. Boxing, PT, you know. So by

48:26

[ __ ] 2:00, dog, there's days I walk

48:28

in, there ain't no stopping. There ain't

48:31

no pissing. I go right to the bed, put

48:33

the mask on, and go right to sleep.

48:36

Just like that. I mean, there's no

48:38

thought. There's no stop it, get what is

48:41

that monopoly? Stop it, go and get 200.

48:43

[laughter] Ain't none of that. I come

48:45

in, I drop my bag, I pee, and I walk

48:47

right upstairs right to the bed. I move

48:49

the cat over. Get the [ __ ] over.

48:51

[laughter] And I [ __ ] put that mask

48:53

on.

48:54

>> Does the cat cuddle with you while

48:55

you're sleeping?

48:56

>> Oh, please. And he goes under the blank.

48:57

She goes under the blank with me, too.

48:58

So, it's perfect.

49:00

>> That's funny.

49:01

>> But, dog, it's not no more. Like, I'm

49:03

don't fly out early no more.

49:06

>> [ __ ] you.

49:07

>> Yeah, you need you need a solid amount

49:09

of sleep. As you get older, it's even

49:11

more important. You know what else is

49:12

really important? Creatine.

49:14

>> I take 10 milligrams twice a day.

49:16

>> Beautiful.

49:17

>> Beautiful.

49:18

>> Beautiful. That's phenomenal for your

49:19

memory and that's a really good

49:21

neutropic as well.

49:22

>> I don't like the gummies. I never got

49:24

You had some gummies on here.

49:26

>> Good. I like them.

49:26

>> My neighbor gave them to me that you had

49:28

them.

49:28

>> I prefer to just open it up and pour it

49:30

in my mouth and then drink water.

49:32

>> Yeah, me too. I like the powder, too.

49:33

>> Yeah. I put like the 10 milligrams in my

49:35

mouth and I just drink water.

49:37

>> You don't put it on your food, do you?

49:38

>> No.

49:39

>> I just keep put I put in a smoothie from

49:41

time to time. I like the raspberries

49:43

with coconut water. the make the best

49:45

way to make sure that I'm getting all 10

49:47

milligrams is to just pour it in my

49:49

mouth and then drink water with it

49:51

because otherwise it's in the glass. You

49:53

got to rinse the glass and get more of

49:55

it in. You know, you're giving yourself

49:57

an exact dose. Just put it in your

49:58

mouth. Dry scoop it. So, I just dry

50:00

scoop it in my mouth and then pour the

50:01

water in there. Okay,

50:02

>> that's how I do it most of the time.

50:04

What the gummies are really good for is

50:05

if you forget and they're just laying

50:06

around, you just eat a couple of

50:08

gummies.

50:09

>> You know,

50:10

>> I don't know how many milligrams are in

50:11

the nose, right?

50:12

[ __ ] I think two gummies is 5 millig.

50:16

I think that's what it is.

50:18

>> I also got turned on to a creatine

50:20

company that has a creatine precursor.

50:22

Is that

50:23

>> creatine? A precursor.

50:24

>> Creatine precursor.

50:25

>> I don't know what that is.

50:26

>> Your own body creates creatine

50:28

>> on its own. This helps.

50:30

>> Oh, interesting.

50:31

>> The body I think it's called a

50:32

precursor. Don't [ __ ]

50:34

>> Yeah, I don't know.

50:34

>> Hey, did I say just right off with a

50:37

[ __ ] You know what I'm saying? I

50:38

[laughter] know that cuz I'm saying it

50:40

wrong. like Voltron. I don't [ __ ]

50:42

know, guys.

50:42

>> I'm sure there's something. I mean,

50:44

there's always a bunch. I mean, there's

50:46

if you think about how many supplements

50:48

are out there. Like, good lord, there's

50:50

so many supplements. And not all of them

50:52

are good, but a lot of them are really

50:53

good. Here's another one that's really

50:54

good for working out. Beta alanine. You

50:56

ever take that?

50:57

>> No.

50:57

>> Phenomenal. Phenomenal.

50:59

>> I take everything else. It's just

51:01

>> makes you tingle, though. Makes your

51:02

skin like itch.

51:04

>> You ever take iodine?

51:05

>> No. Iodine.

51:06

>> Yeah. Like you there's a pill or

51:08

something. You take iodine to help you.

51:09

You're supposed to do that if you get

51:10

radiation poisoning.

51:11

>> Listen, when the first piss test came

51:13

out, they said you would take iodine. So

51:16

again,

51:16

>> you put Clorox in your dick.

51:18

>> I put Clorox in my dick afterward

51:19

[laughter] because the iodine obviously

51:21

didn't [ __ ] work. Okay.

51:25

[laughter]

51:25

>> Imagine when they read your piss through

51:27

the [ __ ] test machine, they be like,

51:28

"What? What did What is this?"

51:30

>> Do you understand?

51:31

>> This isn't piss. [laughter]

51:32

>> Do you understand? Like one of the best

51:34

times I go every morning I go out and

51:36

take my cup of coffee and I sit outside.

51:38

I thank God, you know, the whole [ __ ]

51:40

[ __ ] story. And then it takes me

51:42

somewhere like after the second cup of

51:44

coffee and one of these zins and a

51:45

bonget, your mind goes somewhere and I

51:48

think of chunks of my life and I go,

51:51

"What the [ __ ] was that?"

51:54

>> Like that was Joe. That was insanity.

51:57

What about every time he used to come to

51:59

my house to do the checkup, I never let

52:01

him in. He came like 11 times in two

52:04

years. I never let him in my house. He

52:06

wouldn't know I was in [laughter] the

52:07

house. He would put the sheriffs to come

52:09

and sit outside my house for two hours.

52:12

Then they would leave. They're like,

52:13

"We're not going to He's not home." I

52:15

never let him in my house. I tortured

52:17

that guy. That's right.

52:18

>> He could have sent me to prison. I still

52:20

would have been in prison.

52:21

>> But it was such a like first it was the

52:23

iodine

52:24

>> and then you [ __ ] you know, you're

52:26

supposed to take 20 milligrams. I mean,

52:28

200, whatever. I don't know. And my skin

52:31

is burning. I'm [ __ ] red in the face.

52:33

I got issues. So, I stopped with the

52:35

iodine. I still came back positive. Then

52:37

I went on the [ __ ] uh white vinegar.

52:41

>> White vinegar.

52:42

>> White vinegar with a [ __ ] bottle of

52:44

Gatorade on a Monday morning. Not a

52:47

little vinegar. Not red wine vinegar.

52:49

The real vinegar that you clean your

52:51

[ __ ] with [laughter]

52:53

and douchebags and all that [ __ ]

52:55

Vinegar cleans you. That's what women

52:57

wash their monkey with vinegar because

52:59

it takes all the [ __ ] cat piss out of

53:02

all [laughter] the [ __ ] they got in

53:03

there.

53:05

So they said, "Drink vinegar every

53:07

Monday morning, bro." And it's like a

53:09

process. Like you would get high Friday

53:12

and you would hope to beat it by Sunday,

53:14

but you knew you weren't going to beat

53:15

it. And they're going to call you

53:16

Monday. And it was like your color is

53:18

yellow, right? Like if they say yellow,

53:21

you got to come in. So you wait till

53:23

1:00 and you're like, "All right." You

53:24

had to call in and all a sudden today,

53:27

Monday, Tuesday, the 9th of June, the

53:30

colors are purple. And you're like,

53:32

"Yellow. God damn. Now I got Now I got

53:34

to figure out I got 5 hours. The place

53:37

closes at 6:00. So I got to figure out

53:39

how to stop this cocaine from coming up.

53:42

So then we started taking STO.

53:46

>> What's Serto?

53:46

>> Serto is what you put in like jello.

53:49

It's that thing that makes the jello

53:51

jiggle or some [ __ ] like

53:52

>> what

53:55

[ __ ] sauo. No,

53:56

>> there [laughter] was there was no

53:58

internet these days. These are just

54:00

these are seal.

54:00

>> What is that? a brand of liquid fruit

54:02

pectin most commonly used in the kitchen

54:04

as a thickening agent [laughter] for

54:06

homemade jams and jellies. However, it's

54:09

also widely known as an internet folk

54:11

remedy people use an attempt to mask

54:12

drug drug metabolites in urine. It's a

54:16

folk remedy.

54:17

>> It's [ __ ] [ __ ]

54:18

>> Does it work?

54:19

>> No. That's why

54:20

>> let's find out if it works. Uh the myth.

54:23

Many online forums suggest mixing sauo

54:26

with a large sports drink like Gatorade

54:28

and drinking it a few hours before a

54:29

drug urine test. The theory claims the

54:32

fiber traps toxins in your digestive

54:34

tract. Reality, health professionals and

54:37

medical studies show no scientific

54:39

evidence that fruit pectin can reliably

54:41

clear drugs or toxins from your urine.

54:43

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54:45

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55:28

But again, you get your advice from a

55:29

guy who's done 30 [ __ ] years. Then

55:31

you forget he's been doing 30 years

55:32

because he made mistakes, not because

55:34

he's a [ __ ] genius about Serto.

55:36

Exactly.

55:36

>> You know, and then we went from Serto

55:38

and then one day I was swimming.

55:39

>> Does anything work?

55:40

>> Huh?

55:41

>> Is anything work?

55:42

>> No. Cranberry juice.

55:43

>> What about that stuff that they used to

55:45

sell? Remember they used to sell stuff?

55:46

>> This is 90 [ __ ] This is 89. They

55:49

didn't sell nothing.

55:50

>> No, but do you remember there was some

55:52

stuff that you could buy this? Yeah. No.

55:55

No. You're saying you could buy piss

55:56

now. Now it's completely different.

55:58

>> You could buy piss.

55:59

>> Yeah, you could buy piss online. Just

56:00

get that uh whatever [laughter] that

56:01

dirty that dirty [ __ ] uh XPTt,

56:05

whatever. You go on and you could search

56:06

hidden [ __ ] all over the world.

56:08

>> Got to get a rubber dick and take that

56:10

piss. And

56:10

>> dog, I had a guy who made a rubber dick.

56:14

Normal could not start snorting coke.

56:16

So, he made a a contraption where he

56:18

filled up his son's piss in a hot water

56:20

bottle and did the same thing with the

56:22

douche. And he took the douche on the

56:24

bottom. Scots taped it to his dick and

56:26

he would piss and squeeze his chest.

56:30

>> Oh my god. That's

56:31

>> Then one day the thing blew up

56:32

[laughter]

56:36

>> and he was a bank robber. They sent to

56:37

jail for 30 [ __ ] years.

56:39

>> Want to hear the craziest steroid uh

56:41

evasion story that I ever heard from

56:42

piss. There was a guy who was fighting

56:44

and he knew he was going to get piss

56:46

test and he was just juiced to the tits.

56:48

So the legend is that they inserted

56:52

clean urine into his bladder through

56:55

injection.

56:57

So he injected clean urine into his

57:01

bladder with a needle.

57:05

Whether or not that's true, I have no

57:06

idea. But this is what everybody This is

57:09

like early days of the UFC, like when

57:11

they first started drug testing people.

57:12

>> Would you think

57:13

>> I don't even think it was in the UFC

57:14

that he did this. I think it was in

57:16

another organization. But I don't know

57:18

if it's true.

57:18

>> Think about what's going on the other

57:19

side of this.

57:20

>> Your addiction is that high.

57:23

>> Well, these guys when they're that

57:24

juiced up, when they're that juiced up,

57:26

they're not getting off of it. Cuz if

57:27

they get off, they'll have no muscle.

57:28

>> I get it. I understand. So, you

57:30

understand the extremes that people do.

57:32

>> Could you ever shoot [ __ ] fake piss?

57:35

>> Like, Joey, go piss in the [ __ ]

57:37

thing. I'm going to shoot Joey's piss.

57:39

>> A guy willing to do that and trusting

57:41

that guy was finding your bladder. He

57:43

could shoot piss into your liver. Like,

57:44

who who knows what this guy even

57:46

understands? levels that you do.

57:48

>> So, here I am, sir. It don't work.

57:50

[ __ ] nothing works. And one day I'm

57:52

in a pool. And I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] when

57:54

you piss in the pool,

57:56

>> the pool cleaner

57:58

cleaned all this and not the pool would

58:00

be green the next day."

58:01

>> So, this is your logic.

58:02

>> I went I [laughter] took the kids I took

58:05

one of those cubes first

58:06

>> where the crumbs

58:08

>> smashed it up

58:10

and then I put it on my outside of a

58:12

dick cuz I'm uncircumcised. So I would

58:14

pull the skin back and that would fall

58:16

into the [ __ ] piss. And then so he

58:18

told me once he go something happened

58:20

last time you [ __ ] up the machine or

58:22

something like that, right?

58:23

>> Women would insert condoms filled with

58:25

someone else's urine inside themselves.

58:27

He said some athletes would inject urine

58:29

into their bladders using a catheter. Oh

58:31

god, they did do that. So that's real.

58:34

[gasps]

58:35

So maybe that's how he did it. Maybe

58:36

they used a catheter and that's how they

58:38

put the fake.

58:39

>> But then there's the wizator.

58:40

>> Yeah, that was the rubber dick. That's

58:42

uh one of those.

58:43

>> Wasn't there some stuff that you could

58:45

buy that would you would get at like a

58:47

head shop and supposedly detox you?

58:49

>> This is 89.

58:50

>> But does that stuff work?

58:52

>> Nothing. When I was googling it, it says

58:54

nothing's real. That's

58:55

>> Nothing's real. Yeah. I always assumed

58:56

that it wasn't real. I was like, "You

58:58

selling this at a head shop?"

58:59

>> Stuff from the '9s. These are some of

59:00

the product.

59:01

>> But the killer was when I used Drano.

59:03

>> Oh, okay. So, this is all [ __ ]

59:04

>> Yeah. They just rob people.

59:06

>> They just rob people.

59:06

>> Fetish urine. Look at that. It says,

59:08

look at that's labels. Fetish urine.

59:11

What the [ __ ] does that mean?

59:12

>> It's probably a way to sell it because

59:14

you have to say what

59:15

>> you know not for human consumption or

59:18

something.

59:18

>> Oh, so that's your buying piss. Oh, so

59:20

that's an actual bag of piss on the

59:22

right. [laughter]

59:23

>> Oh, good lord.

59:24

>> This one calls it tinkle.

59:25

>> It's fetish urine. So if you just like

59:27

want someone to piss on you, but no

59:28

one's willing you. [snorts]

59:31

You've already told that story about the

59:33

guy with the gay club, the guy at the

59:35

bathtub that

59:36

>> everybody was pissing on him in the tub.

59:38

>> Yeah.

59:38

>> And then that party Shamer took me to in

59:40

that hotel next to the comedy store and

59:42

they were getting pissed on in there,

59:43

the women. And then I wake up sadly. I'm

59:46

feeling good about myself and I'm on

59:48

Twitter. I see Bonnie Blue. She had a

59:51

that chick is [ __ ] She got pissed on

59:54

had a baby shower in her ass. People

59:56

were pissing her [ __ ] in her ass and

59:58

I'm like, somebody's got to stop that

60:00

woman. She's the least of her problems.

60:02

>> Oh my god. A [ __ ] baby shower.

60:05

>> When I used a drain, although that was

60:06

the best because that destroyed the

60:08

machine. [laughter]

60:10

>> But But the truth of the matter is

60:14

>> when he said something happened last

60:15

time,

60:16

>> well, this is what happened. I put the

60:17

drain on my dick

60:19

>> and I walked up to the counter and I put

60:21

on the desk and he asked you questions.

60:22

How's it been?

60:24

And I'm looking at the thing and it's

60:25

starting to foam like this thing

60:28

[laughter]

60:29

and it's coming out OF THE BAG

60:30

DISHWASHER.

60:32

>> And I'm looking at this thing going,

60:34

"This [ __ ] better." And what he

60:36

did was he just picked it up and threw

60:37

it in the bag like when they pick it up

60:39

and test it.

60:41

>> Sometimes you leave the cop top off.

60:42

That was an old trick. You leave the top

60:44

off and then it spilled. Uh

60:45

>> oh no.

60:46

>> So that buys you one extra week. But the

60:48

time with the draano, it started like it

60:50

was like shaking at the thing like foam

60:52

was coming out of the [ __ ] sides and

60:54

I locked it up [laughter] good. That's

60:55

what happened. There was no oxygen. That

60:57

[ __ ] was like, you know, boom.

60:59

So [laughter] I put in the [ __ ]

61:00

thing. And he called me a few days

61:03

later. He's like, "Listen, I wrote up a

61:04

thing. I'm taking you to court because

61:06

you broke the machine. This cannot

61:08

continue.

61:09

>> This cannot continue.

61:10

>> This can't continue. [laughter] This

61:11

can't continue. This is like a [ __ ]

61:13

>> cat and mouse game. What did you PUT IN

61:16

YOUR BODY? WHAT HAPPENED? [laughter]

61:19

What the [ __ ] is going [snorts] on,

61:21

Jose?

61:22

>> So,

61:22

>> they say, "Hey, your machine sucks. Your

61:25

machine broke."

61:26

>> And then after nothing to do with me.

61:27

>> No. And then they put me on like this

61:29

hold. They were like, "We're not even

61:30

going to piss. You don't want the We're

61:32

done. We can't take this mental [ __ ]

61:34

[laughter]

61:37

>> So, this is when you in the probation

61:39

department. Now, they were going to

61:40

throw me back in community corrections

61:42

because they'll put you in for 90 days."

61:44

and all that. I met this [ __ ] guy

61:47

for 3 months. We spoke like nothing,

61:50

like gentlemen. I would talk to him, saw

61:51

him once a week. And one day I said,

61:54

"What do you do?" And he goes, "I'm a

61:56

district attorney in Boulder, Bill

61:57

Wise."

61:59

I I need a beef, man. I need a problem.

62:01

I'm on this probation. They won't leave

62:02

me alone. What do I do to get off? He

62:05

goes, "Just have your attorney draw up a

62:07

a statement and I'll sign it and get you

62:09

all probation." And that was it. M

62:11

>> just a guy I met on the street, Bill

62:13

Wise, and then he got fired after the

62:15

John Bet Ramsey thing.

62:17

>> He was there during the whole John Bet

62:18

Ramsey thing and everybody got [ __ ]

62:20

fired, I guess. I don't know. Bill Wise

62:22

was a great dude, man. He was good to

62:23

me. And I told him, we asked him what I

62:25

did. I told him the truth and he goes,

62:26

"Did you learn from mistake?" "Yeah, I'm

62:29

here working." He goes, "Okay, pass it

62:32

over and I'll sign." I'm like, "Oh my

62:33

god, how [ __ ] lucky am I? I'm done.

62:36

I'm done." I was done. started in ' 87.

62:40

It was all the way to 91. For a year, I

62:42

was [ __ ] them up with the pee thing.

62:44

[laughter]

62:45

Then they put me back in the half spot

62:46

in the halfway house. And that was even

62:48

worse. I was out of control in there.

62:50

Out of there was freaks in there.

62:52

There's [ __ ] everything in there.

62:53

Freaky girls. I was stealing the air

62:56

conditioner out of the conference room

62:57

and put it in my room. They couldn't

62:59

They couldn't handle me there either.

63:01

They were like, "Dog, [laughter] you

63:02

just go home. We're not going to [ __ ]

63:04

with you no more."

63:06

>> And that's what you do. you do just wear

63:07

somebody ragging. They'll let you go

63:09

eventually. They'll just say, "You know

63:10

what, man? It ain't worth it. You're

63:12

never going to stop. You're never going

63:14

to stop." And then a year later, I had

63:16

like an affair with the one time I had

63:18

an affair with like the chick that

63:20

worked in that office. She's the one

63:22

that had the one leg.

63:23

>> They deliver Chinese food to her.

63:28

It never stopped. And you think of those

63:30

chunks in your life and [snorts] go,

63:31

"What the [ __ ] was going on?"

63:34

>> Yeah. You were out of control. Like it's

63:36

31 years and I still won't get back to

63:38

Boulder because of the shame I endured.

63:40

[laughter]

63:41

Seriously, like I won't Everybody goes,

63:43

"Why don't you go back to Boulder?"

63:44

Because I'm ashamed that that was such a

63:46

beautiful city and I treated like it was

63:49

Newark,

63:49

>> right?

63:50

>> Like I did what I wanted. I would go to

63:51

Kmart, hang out outside of [ __ ] the

63:53

the lawn more department and people will

63:56

come out with new lawnmowers and the

63:58

receipt would fly off. I get that

64:00

receipt and go to Longmont and get that

64:02

lawnmower for 400 and walk it up and go,

64:04

"My mother bought me this. I don't want

64:06

it no more." And I give him the receipt

64:07

and they gave me 400 cash plus plus tax.

64:09

Who does that? That [ __ ] Toys R Us. I

64:13

took that thing down by myself with

64:14

those Jeffrey bucks. I took them down.

64:17

>> What's a Jeffrey buck?

64:18

>> They It's like when you bring a a stolen

64:20

computer in there and they give you They

64:21

won't give you cash. They'll give you

64:23

Jeffrey bucks.

64:24

>> So, you have to spend it on in the

64:26

[ __ ] store.

64:27

>> You know, I had a million dollars in

64:28

Jeffrey Bucks. So one time I was buying

64:30

bicycles and [ __ ]

64:32

it's just it just I was an animal and I

64:35

feel really guilty about it today. I'm

64:38

thinking of booking the Fox Theater in

64:39

Boulder and doing like cuz Leisio is

64:42

opening back up my Italian joint.

64:44

>> So they called and they said we're

64:45

opening back up and I'm like I'm

64:46

thinking of doing Boulder like Fox

64:48

Theater. Just take my lumps, apologize,

64:51

donate to something there and just call

64:53

it a [ __ ] night cuz I still feel

64:54

guilty man. And I'm old, but now I feel

64:56

guilty about the damage. I put Boulder

64:59

through [ __ ] eight I mean, I got

65:00

chased through the mall by security and

65:02

I'm throwing [ __ ] CDs at them.

65:05

[laughter] I remember the Denver Broncos

65:06

were playing Cleveland in ' 87, those

65:08

big playoff games. Do you remember

65:09

those, Jamie?

65:10

>> Doug, I'm at the mall one day and

65:12

everybody's in the hallway looking at

65:13

TVs. I'm like, who's minding the stores?

65:16

I went into Radio Shack and I popped out

65:18

the [ __ ] CD player, brand new one,

65:20

and just put the quarter on it and

65:21

walked out like nothing. Who does that,

65:23

dog? That's animal. I'm I'm ashamed to

65:25

admit this [ __ ] but it was like you

65:27

said when you first went to Boulder the

65:29

first time. You're like, "This must have

65:30

been a [ __ ] grocery store for Joey

65:33

Diaz."

65:34

>> That's exactly what I said when I went

65:35

there.

65:36

>> It was [laughter] It was a shame.

65:37

>> Everybody's so They're so like peaceful

65:41

and sweet.

65:42

>> I brought chaos.

65:44

>> Yeah,

65:45

>> chaos. And it was too much. When I was

65:48

in the prison, I brought chaos in there.

65:50

I had my cell open. I did what I wanted.

65:52

It was just too much. And I to this day

65:54

it's New York. You could [ __ ] like that

65:56

because that's what New York is about. I

65:58

was a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] in New York

66:00

too. But I don't feel guilty about that.

66:01

I still walk around the city now.

66:03

>> Got so many pieces of [ __ ] in New York.

66:05

Unique in Boulder.

66:06

>> It was unique. But in Boulder they

66:07

didn't have anything like me.

66:08

>> They didn't they had no

66:09

>> I was shaking down people. Some guy kept

66:12

telling me I saw you on A&E. Remember in

66:14

the in the ' 90s and ' 80s A&E was a

66:16

mafia channel. They talked Bill whatever

66:18

talked about A&E to call the own family.

66:21

>> And this guy saw me one day. like, "Hey,

66:23

you're the guy that's in the witness

66:25

relocation plan." This is 8 [ __ ]

66:29

nine. This is way before Sammy and all

66:31

those guys went in. This guy's telling

66:33

me you you're a witness relocated guy. A

66:35

little Italian guy. I saw you on on A&E.

66:39

You're George the Animal Something from

66:40

Boston. I'm like, "Dog, that's not me.

66:43

Stop saying that. I already got problems

66:45

in [ __ ] Boulder and you're telling

66:47

people that I'm a witness relocated

66:48

mafia guy."

66:50

He pissed me off so much. Finally, I

66:52

just kicked his [ __ ] door down. He

66:53

had like one of those Italian knickknack

66:54

stores. I went in there and I said,

66:56

"Dog, since I'm George the animal, I am.

66:58

You're going to give me 200 a week."

67:00

Bro, he started giving me 200 a week for

67:02

like 3 weeks. Then he called a sit down

67:04

with Antonio Lizio. And Antonio's like,

67:07

"Yeah, you got to keep paying him." And

67:08

the guy closed up shop like 3 weeks

67:10

later. I never saw him again. Little

67:12

Italian guy would always kick his shoes

67:14

up. Dog, that's crazy [ __ ] I would

67:16

snort coke at an ATM in Boulder. They

67:19

had a next to Murphy's there's an ATM

67:21

you could walk into with the door. I

67:23

would go in there with a case of beer at

67:24

night and just put Coke on the metal.

67:26

People [snorts] would come and go ahead.

67:32

Can't take this [ __ ] back. But it

67:33

[clears throat] was done and I can't

67:34

undo it, you know?

67:36

>> But it bothers you now.

67:39

>> Well, does it bother you or does it just

67:40

make you confused like how the [ __ ] I

67:43

>> Nobody remember half this [ __ ] I'm

67:44

saying. Nobody ever remember this [ __ ]

67:46

People are on they moved on with their

67:48

lives. They saw me now. They go, "Hey,

67:49

that's a guy that kidnapped the guy."

67:51

No, you know, my name was in the paper.

67:53

My picture wasn't. They didn't have a

67:55

picture of me, but everything else was

67:56

in the [ __ ] paper. It's a guilt. It's

67:59

a weird [ __ ] guilt, man. That I could

68:01

have done so much better there if I

68:03

would have play If I would have played

68:04

my card, right? I could have graduated

68:05

college as a [ __ ] astronaut cuz they

68:07

were going to give me everything just

68:08

cuz I was Cuban. They had no Spanish

68:10

people at that college. They had only

68:13

like eight blacks that played football.

68:14

So, they were doing anything to get

68:16

Latinos. I would have been a [ __ ]

68:18

astronaut [laughter]

68:19

>> with a GED.

68:20

>> Yeah, but we would have missed this,

68:22

Joey.

68:23

>> Yeah, but

68:23

>> it's good that it turned out this way.

68:25

>> Let me ask you something. If you

68:26

wouldn't have gotten into [laughter]

68:27

this [ __ ] thing, what would you what

68:28

would you think you'd be doing now?

68:30

>> If I hadn't gotten into which one?

68:32

>> This thing that we're doing, standup

68:33

comedy. No, stand up comedy opened up

68:35

everything.

68:36

>> What would I be doing? Uh, I don't know,

68:38

man. I don't know. I probably would have

68:40

fought again.

68:40

>> Would you be a chef? Would you be I

68:42

mean, I could pin you as a chef. You

68:44

love to cook.

68:45

>> Yeah, I do love to cook. Um, chef, a

68:47

mason.

68:47

>> I found something that I enjoyed doing.

68:50

>> What?

68:50

>> I don't know. I would have figured it

68:52

out.

68:52

>> What's your second love?

68:53

>> The real problem would be if I had a kid

68:56

real young.

68:57

>> So, if uh, you know, I know a bunch of

68:59

my friends got married and had kids when

69:01

they're like 22, 23.

69:02

>> The pro, there's nothing wrong with

69:04

that, but [clears throat] then that

69:06

really limits your ability to just go

69:08

for it because you have mouths to feed.

69:10

That's a different animal. You know, I I

69:12

think about the early days of standup

69:13

when I was 21 and how I had zero money.

69:17

I mean, zero. I had zero money. I barely

69:19

could eat. I [clears throat] remember I

69:21

had a a big [ __ ] jar of pennies and

69:24

nickels and dimes and [ __ ] and I

69:26

remember rolling it all up so I could go

69:28

get a sandwich. Like I [snorts] had no

69:30

money. And so I were I could imagine

69:33

like if I was trying to do that, I said,

69:35

"Well, I'm just going to live like this

69:36

for a couple years and I think if I work

69:39

hard enough, I could eventually start

69:41

making money doing standup and if I keep

69:42

getting better, maybe I could be a

69:44

professional, you know, that was the

69:46

idea. It was never like have a career.

69:48

But if I had a kid and I had a wife,

69:51

there's no way I would have done it.

69:52

[clears throat] There's no way I would

69:53

have to have gotten a job." And that's

69:55

where a lot of people get into, you

69:57

know, or maybe you think it's going to

70:00

be a good investment to get a house,

70:02

which it is, but now you've got a

70:03

mortgage. So, you got a mortgage, you

70:05

can't just [ __ ] lose everything.

70:07

Like, I got my car repossessed. I was

70:09

broke, man. I was broke,

70:11

>> bro. I used to have to hide my car in a

70:12

garage so they won't repossess.

70:14

[laughter]

70:15

>> [ __ ]

70:16

>> Yeah. I mean, it was 100% check to

70:19

check. Never had any money in the bank.

70:20

>> I don't know if this ever happens to

70:22

you, but it happens to me a lot now. And

70:24

this is why I started this grateful [ __ ]

70:26

because that day is I pull up to my

70:29

house. I don't know who lives there.

70:32

>> Yeah.

70:33

>> I go, who lives here?

70:35

This is me really.

70:37

>> I know it doesn't feel real.

70:38

>> And then you ask, you say yourself, this

70:40

is the most important thing for people

70:42

listening. I want you to listen to this.

70:44

If you have a dream or a goal, you go, I

70:46

got to pay for that with comedy,

70:49

which I always thought I was just going

70:50

to make $100 a set. And I would have

70:52

been fine with that if nobody would ever

70:55

bothered me in my life. I would have

70:56

been fine with $100 a set, getting in my

70:59

beat up car and doing that, getting your

71:02

dick sucked, getting STDs. I would have

71:04

done all that [ __ ] you know? That's

71:05

what it is.

71:07

So when you look at your house, whether

71:09

it cost $40,000 or $80 million and go, I

71:13

paid for this doing $15 sets at the

71:16

comedy store.

71:17

>> Yeah.

71:18

>> When you got into this, you just wanted

71:20

to survive. Never mind the [ __ ] house

71:23

and cars and you never dreamed of this

71:26

with standup. I know I didn't.

71:28

>> I never dreamed of this with anything.

71:30

No,

71:30

>> I I never thought I would be a person

71:33

who had money.

71:34

>> I dreamed of being a funny person and to

71:37

be funny enough to make a living in

71:38

standup. Yeah.

71:39

>> I never saw this part of it. So when I

71:41

pull up in my house and I go, that was

71:43

paid with $20 sets.

71:45

>> $25 here, 15 here, 100 here. Yeah, that

71:48

adds up. I'm not saying that. But that

71:51

was paid by a dream.

71:52

>> Yeah.

71:52

>> Not a job, not something my family did.

71:55

I wasn't forced into like raising lemons

71:58

or whatever the [ __ ] people do that are

71:59

decent, you know, growing lemons,

72:01

[laughter] you know? Seriously, we were

72:03

born into this. This is something we got

72:05

into and said, "I just want to survive.

72:09

>> I just want to be able to eat three

72:10

meals and get enough gas to go to the

72:12

next thing." Forget money in the bank.

72:14

Forget it. It's overrated. I would never

72:17

even open up a bank account. I didn't

72:18

open up a bank account till I was 40

72:20

years old, you know? I just ran on

72:22

whatever the [ __ ] I would open and put

72:23

20 in and write a bounce check and

72:26

[ __ ] move on and pray that nobody

72:28

caught you, you know? And people have no

72:30

idea what that feeling is like. I get in

72:32

my car and I go, "Holy shit." How many

72:34

cars did I have that I had a What are

72:36

those? Bungee cords. Oh, yeah. A bungee

72:37

cord.

72:39

>> I had a car when I first did comedy. I

72:40

had to close the door with a bungee cord

72:43

across my thing. It was like my

72:44

combination seat belt because if I took

72:46

a [ __ ] right turn, the door would

72:48

open.

72:49

You know, the door would just wing open.

72:51

Now I'm in a car that's [ __ ] I paid

72:53

for with comedy, not drugs.

72:55

>> A nice one.

72:56

>> Not anything. No. Whether it's nice or

72:59

not, you paid for this without nobody's

73:01

interference with somebody with

73:03

something that somebody told you you'd

73:04

never be good at.

73:06

>> You never be good at. Somebody at least

73:08

said it to you one time. Joe, come on,

73:10

man. Comedy.

73:11

>> You're never going to What do you think?

73:12

You're going to be on HBO with [ __ ]

73:13

[clears throat] Richard Prior and George

73:15

Carlin. You laugh, but you're like, they

73:17

kind of right. They were [ __ ] wrong.

73:18

We didn't know it. We just didn't

73:20

[ __ ] know it.

73:21

>> Well, it's like telling someone, "I'm

73:23

going to run 200 miles." Like, no,

73:25

you're not. You can't even run around

73:26

the block. like, "No, one day I'm going

73:28

to run 200 miles." Like, "No, you're

73:29

not. You're not going to run 200 miles."

73:32

And most of the time they're right. But

73:34

if you're one of those [ __ ]

73:36

that says, "Look, it might take me 10

73:38

years to develop the endurance to run

73:39

200 miles. But I I can't if I start

73:42

right now, next month I'm going to be

73:44

able to run five miles, you know, in six

73:47

months I'll be able to run 10 miles, and

73:49

then I'm going to keep going."

73:50

>> But then you quit before the miracle

73:52

happens.

73:53

>> Well, somewhere along the line, not

73:54

>> How many people do we know that quit?

73:56

How many people do we know that were

73:57

really talented, that were really funny,

73:59

>> and just disappeared and now you see him

74:00

like

74:01

>> I don't want to shame anybody, but

74:02

there's a few guys and there's this one

74:04

guy at the early days of the comedy

74:05

store that I really tried to help. I

74:07

connected him to my manager and I was

74:09

like, "This guy's legit." I'm like,

74:10

"You're funny, dude. Like, you're you're

74:12

good if you just [ __ ] stay." And then

74:15

had a bunch of personal problems, had a

74:17

kid think I think he had some legal

74:19

issues.

74:21

Damn. But that guy, I'm like, I'll tell

74:23

you later who it was.

74:24

>> No, I know who it was.

74:25

>> Yeah. Yeah. And but I [clears throat]

74:26

was like, that [ __ ] was funny.

74:28

He was funny.

74:29

>> Way funnier than I was.

74:30

>> He was great. He was a fun dude to be

74:33

around. He was a cool dude.

74:34

>> I was like, he's going to make it.

74:36

>> There was people I looked at and I go,

74:37

they're way funnier than I am. Holy

74:39

[ __ ]

74:40

>> We were both like the same age, too. We

74:43

were like 27 when I first met him. And

74:46

uh I connected with my manager and he

74:48

was like, "Nobody ever did anything like

74:50

that for me before." Like, "Nobody tries

74:52

to help me."

74:52

>> Nobody. I was like, "Listen, man. You

74:55

you'll do it too now. You'll make it and

74:58

then you'll do it, too. We'll all do it.

75:00

It's it it helps and it doesn't hurt.

75:03

Doesn't hurt you at all to help

75:04

somebody, but it helps them and it helps

75:06

you. It helps you feel better. You feel

75:08

better that you're helping someone. It's

75:10

like it's a like I always say that being

75:12

generous is kind of selfish in a way

75:14

because you feel better, too. Like when

75:16

I'm generous, I feel better."

75:17

>> I do.

75:18

>> Yeah. Yeah. We all do. And when we're

75:20

kind and when we try to help people, you

75:22

feel better. It's good for you. It's

75:24

good for everybody. And it's like that's

75:26

a message that the world needs to hear.

75:28

Like you could be good to people. And if

75:32

you're good to people and you're nice to

75:33

people, it'll help you too. And if you

75:35

find someone who's got something, you

75:37

got you got and you're doing a thing

75:39

like you're doing a thing and there's

75:40

someone who's got a spark, there's a

75:42

little talent, help though. Help them.

75:45

Help those people. Give them advice.

75:47

Give them a push. Let them open for you.

75:49

Let you know watch their set. give them

75:52

some feedback. Help them cuz you know

75:55

>> we're not in the comedy business, Joe.

75:57

I've never been in the comedy business.

75:58

I don't know what anybody's talking

75:59

about. We're in the karma business.

76:02

>> It's a little of that.

76:03

>> I'm in the karma business. I am not in

76:05

the com my my goal every day is to make

76:07

somebody's day. One person, a woman at

76:10

the supermarket. You're looking [ __ ]

76:11

bad in a [ __ ] today. Oh, stop

76:13

it, Joey. Yeah, that I just made her

76:16

[ __ ] day. Her husband sees her every

76:18

day and never tells her she's banging.

76:20

And I'm going up to this lady I don't

76:21

even know and I'm like damn if I was 20

76:23

years younger you know they're older

76:25

than me like they don't you know

76:28

>> that's my thing every day just make

76:29

somebody's day one person you can't save

76:32

the world

76:33

>> but one day a gesture a handshake a

76:36

couple dollars is not going to set you

76:38

back. That is kind of what you if you're

76:40

if you're doing a thing where you're

76:42

doing something that people enjoy. Like

76:44

think about like your sets. Like think

76:46

about how many people have gone to see

76:48

you and you change their night. Gone to

76:50

see you. Like how many nights at the

76:52

store people come in, you want to see a

76:54

show? Yeah, let's go see a show. You go

76:55

on stage and rock that [ __ ] place.

76:57

They leave, they're holding their side

76:59

like and they go out and get something

77:00

to eat afterwards. NOBODY SAID THAT

77:02

[ __ ] THING ABOUT AND THEY'RE D like

77:05

change people's evenings. You change

77:08

their feelings. You change the way they

77:10

feel and you feel good because of it.

77:12

It's like this weird exchange. The

77:13

reason why we love killing.

77:15

>> Especially people that are really good

77:17

at it, what they love is that they're

77:19

making other people happy. That's really

77:21

what you love.

77:21

>> That's it. I love it.

77:22

>> You're making other people happy

77:25

>> and you feel happy because you're making

77:26

and when you don't Oh, you feel

77:28

terrible.

77:29

>> I feel I do better when I look at the

77:31

audience and they're laughing and I

77:32

laugh with them. Once I laugh, you're

77:34

done.

77:35

>> Yes.

77:36

>> You're done. Yeah.

77:36

>> Once I start laughing and giggling,

77:38

>> if it's real,

77:39

>> parties. Yeah. No, it's real.

77:41

>> You're having fun.

77:42

>> It's real. It's real. When I look out

77:43

there and I see somebody that should not

77:45

be laughing and they're laughing at

77:47

something blue as [ __ ] that I said and I

77:49

don't expect them to laugh, that's what

77:51

makes me laugh. Or the look on their

77:53

face from the shock of you saying

77:54

something.

77:55

>> That's what always kicks me into this

77:58

[ __ ] mode, you know?

77:59

>> Yeah. It's beautiful. The the other

78:01

thing I want to talk about in this

78:02

podcast cuz I was talking to a friend of

78:03

mine in Jersey standup [snorts] and this

78:05

is the other thing people don't see.

78:07

We're very blessed because we went to LA

78:09

or wherever the [ __ ] we went and one day

78:12

you're talking to somebody and two weeks

78:15

later

78:16

they're in a [ __ ] the biggest movie

78:18

in Hollywood.

78:19

>> Yeah.

78:20

>> And it's very hard to explain to people

78:22

to sit believe in yourself and just keep

78:25

showing up and that this happens. But

78:29

since people don't have see that happen

78:31

in their world, you know, in Jersey,

78:34

what do you see? A guy hits the lottery,

78:36

>> he can wins a million dollars. That's

78:38

their way out of this life. For us, it

78:42

was like

78:44

we had we saw too many people make it

78:46

like this. Like one day they had nothing

78:49

and the next day they're on CBS [ __ ]

78:52

doing a show for eight years with

78:53

whether it's Kevin or whether it's

78:55

>> [ __ ] uh the other guy, the great guy

78:57

from Pittsburgh. You've seen that. So it

79:00

gives you hope. Now at that situation,

79:02

you could say, "Fuck that dude. He's a

79:04

[ __ ] loser." You could go, "Good for

79:05

him. He just moved the notch up a little

79:07

bit so I could get on that conveyor

79:09

line." That's the beauty of it. Not

79:12

looking at that person going, "Fuck him.

79:14

He sucks. He stole my joke in

79:16

Pittsburgh. Who gives a [ __ ] about

79:17

Pittsburgh in ' 89? Guy's on TV now. You

79:21

know, whatever he is, be happy because

79:24

you're next. You know him. You [ __ ]

79:26

do sets with him,

79:27

>> right?

79:27

>> You're there in the rotation with him at

79:29

the store every night and off and it can

79:30

happen for you, too.

79:31

>> It happens. [clears throat] So once you

79:32

see it, you go, "Oh [ __ ] Okay, now I

79:35

know what I need to do."

79:36

>> That's if you're real.

79:37

>> That's if you're real. I need to get off

79:38

coke. I need to cut this [ __ ] out. I

79:40

need to do this, this, and this. Just to

79:42

get me closer to that because I see it

79:45

too much. I see people living in an

79:47

apartment with eight people and next

79:48

thing you know they got a house in

79:49

Beverly Hills. Most people don't see

79:51

that,

79:52

>> right?

79:52

>> So, it's tough to explain to them what

79:55

they because everybody thinks you're

79:56

going to hit the lottery in your life's

79:58

going to change. Boy, are they mistaken.

80:00

Everybody thinks $10 million going to

80:02

change their life and make them a better

80:04

person. It's not. It's not. We think

80:06

it's going to. Like when you were broke

80:08

all those years, you used to say, "I

80:10

can't wait to have money."

80:12

>> But you never said, "I can't wait to

80:13

have money for what?" I never thought I

80:16

would have money.

80:17

>> Me neither.

80:17

>> I never said I can't wait to have money.

80:20

My thought was I want to like make a

80:23

living. That's it.

80:24

>> That's it. That's why I was

80:25

>> Even when I first started with standup,

80:27

like it was just to make a living. It

80:29

was just doing this thing. I I was a

80:31

[ __ ] loser in like regular society. I

80:34

was good at kicking people. I was a

80:36

loser in regular society. I was like I I

80:38

didn't graduate college. I barely got

80:40

out of high school. I wasn't paying

80:42

attention. I I didn't care about school.

80:45

All I cared about was whatever I cared

80:47

about, whether it was drawing or whether

80:49

it was martial arts. Those are the

80:50

things that I cared about. That's it.

80:52

>> So, I always felt like I just need to

80:54

find a way to live because I I'm never

80:57

going to be a successful person. I had

81:00

like resigned myself to that. I had no

81:02

aspirations.

81:02

>> You [snorts]

81:04

[ __ ] No, you were way worse than me

81:05

because you were in and out of jail.

81:07

>> No, I had no family, felonies, no GED. I

81:12

was set to [ __ ] die.

81:13

>> Yeah.

81:14

>> And that little [ __ ] accident I had

81:16

in when I was 25 years old, you know,

81:18

it's like right now, you go, you look at

81:21

the news and there's this big thing

81:22

going on by the ice facility by my house

81:25

in Jersey in uh Newark. They keep

81:27

[ __ ] banging and I'm sitting there

81:28

going,

81:30

>> "Here's how stupid we are as Americans."

81:32

I don't know if Americans know this

81:33

[ __ ] When you go to jail, you lose all

81:35

your rights. You know why I don't go to

81:36

jail, Joe? Because that sleep apnea

81:38

machine doesn't mean nothing in jail.

81:41

We don't care if you die,

81:43

>> right?

81:43

>> You know what you have to do to get them

81:44

sleep apnnea machine in jail? You got to

81:46

go to a manufacturer. They have to send

81:47

it to you directly, which we'll get into

81:50

later. But my point is that

81:52

[ __ ] What was my point? I don't even

81:54

know. I got so high before.

81:56

>> Your point was that you never thought

81:58

you were going to go anywhere.

81:59

>> I never thought I was going to go

82:00

anywhere

82:01

>> until comedy came around and you

82:03

realized, oh, this is a thing that I can

82:04

do.

82:05

>> But all I wanted was 4,000 a month. In

82:09

my mind, I was such a loser that I said

82:10

to myself, if I can make 4,000 a month,

82:12

I'm a millionaire.

82:14

>> And today, 4,000 a month doesn't even

82:16

get you rent,

82:17

>> right?

82:17

>> Not even nothing. 4,000.

82:18

>> But back then, 4,000 a month was like

82:20

8,000 a month.

82:21

>> Yeah. 8,000 a month now.

82:22

>> And you would say, okay, if I made a h

82:24

100red grand a year, I can live like you

82:27

can live off 100 grand a year and be

82:28

comfortable. Like that's the goal. The

82:30

goal was always just to be comfortable.

82:32

But the thing with you is I've realized

82:34

this like very early on. you were going

82:38

to it was going to take a different

82:39

path. Like I remember watching like you

82:42

emerge when you really started like

82:45

killing on stage and I was saying and

82:47

then you know all these agents you

82:50

remember I had that one agent that would

82:51

get mad that I would take you on the

82:52

road with me. [laughter]

82:54

>> He would get mad. I was like what the

82:56

[ __ ] is wrong with he's not I don't

82:57

think he's funny. I don't think he's

82:58

talented. I go you don't know what the

82:59

[ __ ] you're talking about. You don't

83:01

know anything. I go why does he make me

83:02

laugh so hard? He's like well you're a

83:04

degenerate. Like you're a [ __ ] crazy

83:06

person. And you got to realize the

83:07

audience is offended and that's your

83:08

audience. Like shut the [ __ ] up. I knew

83:11

that you were a different path. So for

83:14

you, your emergence came with the

83:17

emergence of the internet. And when the

83:20

internet came around and we started

83:22

doing podcasts, I'm like, this is the

83:24

way that Joey's going to break because

83:26

they'll get to see the real you.

83:28

>> When I told stories, when I listen, it's

83:30

like 24/7 on HBO. You may hate [ __ ]

83:35

I don't know, throw any name up. You may

83:37

hate that boxer for some reason. He He's

83:39

whatever. He's cocky, but then they show

83:42

you his house and they show you he's got

83:44

four daughters and they show you that he

83:46

wakes up every morning and feeds the

83:47

daughters. You thought he was a [ __ ]

83:49

animal. In the cage, he's an animal, but

83:52

in life, he's just a regular guy. And

83:54

you get to see that and go, "No, I like

83:56

him. I don't see a guy that just punches

83:58

people in the head. I see a guy that's

84:00

Look at him. He's got [ __ ] makeup on

84:02

for his daughters and he's cooking

84:04

breakfast every morning. Then he goes

84:05

trains like that. Uh Jason, what was his

84:08

name? The big young brother from the

84:10

UFC, Alexander. Remember he came and he

84:12

was knocking heads and they found out he

84:14

couldn't do jiu-jitsu. Great guy though.

84:16

>> Houston Alexander.

84:17

>> Yeah. Yeah.

84:18

>> I watched that thing on him. He was

84:19

raising four girls. His wife, the crack

84:22

mom, left.

84:23

>> That dude was a tank.

84:24

>> He was a tank. And he would train in the

84:25

mornings, then go home, cook for the

84:26

kids.

84:27

>> Remember when he knocked out Keith

84:28

Jardine? Big upset. Big upset.

84:30

>> Big upset. Jardine just tried to take

84:33

him out and Houston Alexander was

84:34

throwing bombs.

84:36

>> He was big and [ __ ] strong.

84:38

>> Jacked.

84:38

>> Jacked.

84:39

>> And he was a radio DJ,

84:41

>> you know. He was a radio DJ.

84:42

>> I didn't know that.

84:43

>> Yeah. He was a hip-hop DJ. Find out

84:46

where Houston Alexander was. I'd love to

84:47

know where he is. Like a big DJ. Like he

84:49

was successful.

84:50

>> He always talked to me at the airports.

84:52

>> Very good guy. Very good.

84:53

>> Very good guy. I was like, "Wow."

84:56

But you know you I knew that once I was

84:58

able to tell my story where I came from

85:00

it was I w I didn't know how to do it on

85:02

stage.

85:04

>> Then after I done a podcast over the

85:06

years I got better enough to learn how

85:08

to do it on stage.

85:09

>> But you did figure out how to do

85:10

something on stage. That was the switch.

85:13

And the switch was you figured out how

85:15

to be Joey Diaz in the parking lot on

85:18

stage.

85:18

>> In stage that was the that was killing

85:20

me.

85:20

>> But it went like that.

85:22

>> Like that. I never saw anybody flip a

85:24

switch from struggling on stage to

85:26

crushing like you. I was like, "This is

85:29

wild."

85:30

>> And I'm going to tell you some of the

85:31

reasons. I was too focused on material.

85:36

You're too focused on your [ __ ]

85:37

material. And you know what? At the end

85:38

of day, your material sucks. I've heard

85:40

it already. And that's what I would

85:41

think in my mind. So, I would do better.

85:44

But when I went up there just with one

85:46

thought and attacked it,

85:49

>> you know what I mean? I mean, it's hard

85:50

to explain what I'm saying to you. Yeah.

85:52

No, you what you what you did was you

85:56

treated the audience like they were your

85:59

boys and we're all hanging out versus

86:01

treated the audience like I'm a comic.

86:03

Here's some jokes. Like when you first

86:05

started when I first What did I meet you

86:07

in '96?

86:08

>> 97.

86:09

>> 97. When I first met you, you were doing

86:12

jokes. Like you go on stage and do

86:14

jokes.

86:14

>> I would focus on the jokes on that

86:16

paper. Don't focus on that. At 11:30 at

86:19

the store, your jokes don't mean [ __ ]

86:21

They just saw three hours of top-notch

86:24

comedy. What are you bringing to the

86:25

table? You going to go up there and tell

86:26

me what I saw on the news? And who

86:28

taught us that? Paul Mooney. How to

86:31

relax? He would just go up there and in

86:34

my mind he was just vibing with the

86:35

audience.

86:36

>> He did a lot of that

86:37

>> and it worked. And I took that realm of

86:41

relax.

86:42

>> Mooney taught us a lot.

86:44

>> Relax.

86:44

>> He was a real veteran, you know. He was

86:46

like one of the only guys when we were

86:48

there that was there during the prior

86:49

years. probably

86:50

>> and was respected.

86:52

>> It wasn't like one of those There was a

86:54

few guys that were still hanging around

86:56

that had literally acts from the

86:58

>> They were still doing like Bruce

86:59

Springsteen jokes. No,

87:00

>> it was terri. It was just bad.

87:01

>> But his laidback

87:03

>> Yeah.

87:03

>> attitude.

87:04

>> Always topical, too. Always new [ __ ]

87:07

Anytime new [ __ ] was going on the news,

87:08

he had 10 solid minutes on it

87:10

>> and quick.

87:11

>> Yeah.

87:12

>> That day if it happened, you told on

87:14

news that night

87:15

>> that day.

87:15

>> I remember he was crushing on stage

87:17

once. We were dying in the back of the

87:18

room. He goes, "Oh, that's right. I

87:19

write, [ __ ] I write.

87:21

>> Yeah. No, no, he's [ __ ] We were

87:23

dying.

87:23

>> But that calmness taught me how to I was

87:26

going up there and rushing.

87:27

>> Yeah.

87:28

>> I was going up there doing two mistakes.

87:29

Rushing and worrying about that material

87:32

like it was Bible,

87:33

>> right?

87:34

>> I'll give you an example.

87:37

Sometimes I get an audition, right? When

87:39

I was doing a lot of auditions, this is

87:41

when I learned that early on when I was

87:43

auditioning that if I focused on that

87:45

line, those lines, I wasn't going to

87:48

book that part.

87:51

So I had to dip into Marlon Brando's

87:53

[ __ ] tools. Marlon Brando didn't read

87:55

[ __ ] He put those signs on you so you

87:57

felt more organic. But it wasn't even

88:00

that. It was know who your character is.

88:04

I could tell you to go [ __ ] your mother

88:05

18 different ways.

88:08

Right.

88:08

>> Right.

88:09

>> So it's the same thing. You have to just

88:13

learn not the words but what he's trying

88:15

to say in there. You don't need the

88:17

words. The words are [ __ ] What is

88:19

this guy trying to say in there? Yeah,

88:21

you take some of the sentences that he's

88:23

saying, but you slow it down. And that's

88:25

what he did in that scene when he tells

88:27

everybody if my son should hang by a

88:29

bolt of lightning,

88:31

you then Marlon Brando in the hotel

88:33

scene. That's a beautiful [ __ ] scene.

88:36

If you love that [ __ ] like I do, all

88:38

those [ __ ] were wearing signs.

88:40

You've seen the the the behind the

88:42

scenes of that.

88:43

>> So the the their words, the script was

88:46

>> were on papers. So Duval was sitting

88:48

across from him with a billboard.

88:50

>> That's hilarious.

88:50

>> That boss was sitting across from and

88:52

you see him like he just look up

88:55

and that I will not forgive and he take

88:59

another pause and look at another Q card

89:00

and and because he wanted it to be

89:02

organic.

89:03

>> He didn't want it to sound like those

89:05

[ __ ] lines this writer wrote,

89:07

>> right?

89:07

>> And that's for everything. If you know

89:09

the character, I know the character. I

89:11

know me.

89:12

>> See, that's crazy. [laughter]

89:15

>> Everybody had science, dog. That is

89:17

really crazy.

89:19

>> But it is crazy.

89:20

>> Did it work

89:21

>> in The Godfather? Did it work? Okay, so

89:23

go [ __ ] yourself. It

89:25

>> was watching this thing where they were

89:26

very skeptical about him playing.

89:28

>> Oh, did you see the Sony thing?

89:30

>> Yeah.

89:30

>> The Sony series. Very good.

89:32

>> Yeah. Very good. Yeah. What an

89:34

interesting Imagine skeptical about

89:35

Marlon Brando playing the Godfather.

89:38

Well, brother, he had shot a movie,

89:40

Beutiny on the Bounty, and they went

89:43

down there, and the [ __ ] [ __ ]

89:45

that chick, and he wasn't even directing

89:46

anymore. He was in a hut. He gave like

89:48

the ad, the camera. You didn't hear

89:50

about that?

89:51

>> Yeah.

89:51

>> That's a huge story.

89:52

>> But that's Apocalypse Now, right?

89:54

>> No. And then Apocalypse Now, he went to

89:56

a meeting. They gave him all this loot

89:58

and they told him, "You got to show up

89:59

180." Like, you're supposed to be a

90:01

Green Beret,

90:02

>> right?

90:02

>> He showed up 400.

90:04

>> Well, that's why they kept him in the

90:05

dark, right? that they kept him in the

90:06

dark and they shaved black shirt, you

90:08

know, he didn't give a [ __ ] He did it

90:10

however and that's why they hated him.

90:13

But at the same time, you got to love

90:14

the [ __ ] cuz it's working.

90:16

>> Yeah. Well, it was authentic, right?

90:20

>> Yeah. That Apple TV show was very

90:22

interesting.

90:23

>> It was

90:24

>> very And I I met that dude. Remember, he

90:26

created The Longest Yard. Al Ruddy did

90:29

the longest yard from scratch. When he

90:32

did the Godfather,

90:34

I think he didn't take two and he went

90:36

to do the longest yard. He loved it. So,

90:39

he created the longest yard. So, when we

90:41

shot our longest yard, he was there

90:42

every Friday for his little checky poo.

90:44

Big [ __ ] Big dude, dog. Good

90:47

dude. Big hands and [ __ ] Would just

90:50

talk to you about stuff. Good dude. So,

90:53

I got it like that [ __ ] you

90:55

know, be buddy. And I think he did

90:57

something else after that. Look at the

90:59

movies he did. Look at the movies here.

91:01

Jamie, when you get a minute, Paul

91:03

Rudy's films.

91:04

>> What was that other question that had

91:05

asked you earlier

91:07

>> about

91:07

>> I asked you to look something up? Forget

91:09

>> a DJ in Omaha.

91:11

>> Yes, Omaha.

91:11

>> Yes, Omaha. He was from Omaha.

91:13

>> That's what it is.

91:14

>> What radio station?

91:18

>> Is he still doing it?

91:20

>> Yeah, it says he currently is.

91:22

>> He currently is still. Look at that. We

91:24

got to call him. I think he fought

91:26

recently. I think he had a fight like

91:29

within the last couple of years.

91:32

>> Did he?

91:32

>> This says 2017 for MMA

91:35

box. Bare knuckle boxing in 2023.

91:38

>> That's it.

91:39

>> Yeah.

91:40

>> Won all four of his bare knuckle fights.

91:42

>> Yeah.

91:43

>> Bare knuckle fighting. Dude's a DJ. UFC

91:46

veteran. Said, "Fuck it. Let's get some

91:48

bare knuckle fights in."

91:49

>> How [ __ ] great is that that you could

91:50

DJ and then go fight somebody on

91:52

>> Crazy. Yeah.

91:53

>> And that's life, man. That's a life

91:56

that's worth living. You got your money.

91:57

You're getting your money's worth.

91:59

You're getting your money's worth. You

92:00

want to sit at home, be senary,

92:02

whatever. Live like, you know, watching

92:03

TV and you're scared they're going to

92:05

bomb you. You're done. You got to keep

92:08

[ __ ] living. That's what you know.

92:09

>> Yeah. You got to do things. That's the

92:12

thing about life. You got to do things.

92:13

Too many people just sit around wanting

92:15

to do things and not doing anything.

92:17

It's hard to get moving, though. That's

92:19

what a lot of people find. They find

92:20

it's hard to like go out to that club

92:23

for that first open mic, step into that

92:25

gym the first time. Like D-Rod, uh

92:27

Daniel Rodriguez, did you see that

92:29

podcast? We talked about how he got

92:30

arrested in Tijana.

92:32

>> You know D-Rod from the UFC?

92:34

>> Yeah.

92:35

>> So D-Rod uh beats Kevin Holland, right?

92:38

Goes to uh San Diego celebrating and his

92:40

boys like, "Let's go to Tijuana." [ __ ]

92:42

yeah. Let's go to Tijuana. Just go to

92:44

drink, have a good time. Just won a huge

92:46

fight. top 15 UFC welterweight

92:50

has an ounce of weed in his bag. He

92:52

thinks, "Well, weed's legal in

92:54

California. Weed's decriminalized in

92:56

Mexico. Who cares? Maybe I'll bribe

92:58

somebody. I'll get out of this." It's a

93:00

federal offense to bring weed in. And

93:02

even though weed's decriminalized in

93:04

Mexico, it's not for visitors. It's only

93:06

for Mexican citizens.

93:10

>> Yeah, bro.

93:11

>> How do you get out of that one?

93:12

>> Well, one of the things he had to do is

93:13

become a Mexican citizen. [snorts]

93:15

So he's got dual citizenship now. Yeah.

93:18

He was in jail for [ __ ] eight months,

93:19

man.

93:20

>> Oh my god.

93:21

>> Yeah. He was just training in jail. He

93:23

looks great. He looks great now, but

93:24

when he got out, he was he's like, I had

93:26

no protein. So I'm in there working out

93:28

every day with [ __ ] eating noodles

93:30

and and potato chips.

93:31

>> No protein.

93:32

>> No protein. And so he he got real thin.

93:35

Like he showed a photo of him like the

93:37

day he got out. I mean, this

93:38

[ __ ] was training every day,

93:39

twice a day in jail. He's like, I'm

93:41

going to make the most out of this. But

93:42

it's he has no food. The food's

93:45

terrible. So his body had wasted away.

93:47

>> I think I used to get protein.

93:48

>> He couldn't. He asked. He tried to get

93:50

it. He said, "You get girls, you get all

93:51

these different things." He goes, "He

93:53

couldn't get [ __ ] good food

93:54

>> in Mexico."

93:55

>> In Mexico. Yeah.

93:56

>> And he was a cellmate with a cartel guy.

93:59

The cartel guy took care of him. The

94:00

cartel guy recognized him. Look, we'll

94:02

take care of you. Hang out with us. And

94:03

he just said, "I'm going to keep my nose

94:04

down. Just train." But he said he got a

94:06

bunch of guys training with him because

94:08

they they were inspired. They're like,

94:09

"Fuck yeah, let's train with D-Rod." So

94:11

he had he had all these guys in there.

94:13

He said some of them were [ __ ]

94:14

talented. Prison's fun. [laughter] I

94:16

don't give a [ __ ] what anybody tells

94:18

you. Once you get to your destination

94:21

and you meet your homies and you create

94:23

a little thing, it's like anything else.

94:25

We just can't step out the walls. But

94:27

you make it happen. Like I laughed a lot

94:29

in there, bro. I laughed.

94:31

>> I bet you did.

94:32

>> Because nobody's funnier in prison than

94:33

black people. I don't give a [ __ ] what

94:35

they tell you. They're the true kings of

94:37

the prison system. And I had the two

94:39

best. I had I was I had the two best.

94:42

And you know sometimes that

94:43

>> that's where you first did stand up,

94:45

right?

94:46

>> First did stand up just for the inmates.

94:48

>> Yeah. Wednesday, Thursday night.

94:49

>> They just talk some [ __ ]

94:50

>> during the movies. They would go, "This

94:51

movie sucks." They would be like PT 109,

94:54

you know? We don't want to see [ __ ]

94:55

Kennedy in a movie. Get up there, Cuba.

94:57

And I would just go up there and [ __ ]

94:59

around and it

95:01

>> it was nothing that was I ever thought

95:03

about anything. Like I You said

95:05

something before thinking about the

95:07

first time you went to that open mic.

95:08

Boy, was that scary for me.

95:10

>> Terrifying.

95:10

>> Took me eight months. I was such a

95:12

[ __ ] I would call the Comedy Works in

95:14

Denver every week and every week I'd

95:16

cancel Dem. Oh, I don't feel good. And

95:21

then my ex-wife, God bless, as much as I

95:23

hate her, she heard me on the phone and

95:24

she has her mother to babysit. And she

95:27

drove me down and I got on stage. I

95:29

remember getting off that stage going,

95:30

"How am I going to do this? I'm married

95:32

with a kid." And three months later, she

95:35

came home. She's like, "You're a loser.

95:36

I don't want to be married to you no

95:37

more." I'm like, "Yes." [laughter] Holy

95:40

[ __ ] you just did me [ __ ] solid.

95:44

Then she did me shitty afterward, but

95:46

the point is she at least got me to that

95:48

open mic. So, I have to be grateful for

95:50

something that she did. You know,

95:51

>> it's the hard the first step's the hard

95:53

one. You know what I was saying about

95:55

D-Rod, like the first time he ever went

95:57

to the gym, his uh girlfriend got him a

96:00

membership. She was like, he's cuz he

96:02

drove by it a bunch of times. He thought

96:04

about training, never went in. you had a

96:06

bunch of street fights, never went in.

96:08

He's like, "I think I could do that."

96:10

And then finally, she's like, "Look, I

96:11

got your present. I got your

96:13

membership."

96:14

>> Hold that thought. Can I go pee real

96:16

quick? We're at the 2our mark.

96:17

>> We'll be right back.

96:18

>> We'll be right back. I got to go pee.

96:20

>> And

96:22

we're back.

96:23

>> That was a tremendous pee. [laughter] Oh

96:25

my god.

96:26

>> Cuz the worst is when you try to

96:28

concentrate and you have to piss like

96:29

>> No, that's the worst.

96:30

>> You can't fall.

96:31

>> That's the [ __ ] worst. When you have

96:32

to drive and [ __ ] you got to pee. And

96:35

I'm to an age I just pull over.

96:37

>> Yeah. So

96:38

>> highway, whatever. I pull I open up the

96:40

both doors and I make believe I'm

96:41

looking for something and that dick is

96:43

out peeing like I pee on the little leaf

96:45

field and now I got after surgery they

96:47

gave me a handicap sparking. I'm living

96:50

like a doctor. You don't know what life

96:53

is until you have handicap parking dog.

96:56

You just pull right up and pick a spot.

96:59

>> Always.

97:00

>> Yeah.

97:01

>> Like 4 feet away. When I got in the

97:03

mail, dog, I was happier. That made me

97:05

so happy. [ __ ] walking. When I go to

97:08

events now in Philadelphia, I just pull

97:11

up and [ __ ] put a neck brace on, walk

97:14

out and [ __ ] Oh, it's been beautiful.

97:16

Joe,

97:17

>> what do you have to do to get one of

97:18

those?

97:18

>> The doctor,

97:19

>> that's it. So,

97:20

>> the doctor was like, "Oh, do you have it

97:21

after surgery? I get a feed for 6

97:23

months."

97:24

>> And then he goes, "Hold on one second."

97:25

He went online. He's like, "Dog, you

97:28

qualify for everything. You got

97:29

everything on this list. Everything.

97:31

Go." And they gave it to me for [ __ ]

97:33

like 3 years.

97:34

>> Oh, nice.

97:35

>> Yeah, I [ __ ] Oh, tremendous. Joe,

97:38

>> how does it feel right now? You're all

97:40

right.

97:40

>> Yeah, it feels okay. I just listen, what

97:42

happens is you do something every week.

97:45

Like the second week I went, third week

97:47

I went couple weeks I went boxing and it

97:50

was good for like three times. And one

97:52

day I went and I had a plan 25 minutes,

97:54

eight rounds on the bag or the speed

97:57

bag, but I do the bags and I alternate

97:59

the bags. Sure enough, round number six,

98:01

one of the guys comes over. He goes,

98:02

"Joey, let's hit the mids." I'm excited.

98:05

You know, he's a young guy. Let's do it.

98:07

I left. My [ __ ] leg blew up from that

98:09

right punch to cross cuz everything

98:11

walks into it.

98:12

>> You're also moving around with

98:13

>> You're moving around. So, I said, "Fuck

98:15

it. Now I got to stand in front of the

98:16

bag." So, I learned my lesson.

98:18

>> And then last week, I went to PT and

98:21

that [ __ ] had me. I mean, I love

98:23

him, but TJ, this [ __ ] had me

98:26

doing deadl lifts and wall squats with a

98:29

thing with your weight on the back and

98:31

you go all the way.

98:32

>> So, it's all just to strengthen the

98:33

muscles back.

98:34

>> You have to You have to strengthen. But

98:35

I prepped. I listened to you guys. I,

98:37

you know, I did everything I could

98:39

before the surgery. That's what made it

98:41

easier. Made a lot easier. I called you.

98:44

I told you I was doing [ __ ] in 5 days. I

98:46

didn't have a cane no more. You know, I

98:48

was done. I I started driving at 8 days.

98:50

Not because I couldn't, but because I

98:52

was sick and tired of my wife driving me

98:54

places

98:54

>> and I got to, you know, argue with her

98:56

in the right hand lane.

98:57

>> No problem.

98:58

>> Yeah. Like a [ __ ]

98:59

>> Wow. That's crazy.

99:00

>> So, it was the right foot, which is the

99:02

accelerated brake combo. So, yeah.

99:05

>> But, yeah, I was out of the house. You

99:06

know, the pain pills were done after 8

99:08

days. Then I had to bring them back for

99:10

PT. They were [ __ ] killing me after

99:13

PT. So after PT, you pop one, go home,

99:16

put ice on it, rub it down with the

99:18

cream, and stay off it for an hour or

99:20

two, but then at night, I take a walk

99:22

around the neighborhood. You could

99:23

you're trying to strengthen this [ __ ]

99:25

>> right?

99:25

>> You know, we're talking about it

99:26

outside. Let's let's say you're in a

99:27

hospital for 5 days and you eat cereal

99:30

for five [ __ ] days. You gain weight,

99:33

>> your muscle breaks down and goes away.

99:35

Like five days, stay in a hospital. It

99:37

could [ __ ] kill you just because,

99:38

again, there's not that much protein.

99:40

You're not getting 150 grams of protein

99:42

a day. You're not moving

99:44

>> and you're not moving. So [snorts]

99:45

>> that's the big one.

99:46

>> I prepped for [clears throat] the

99:47

surgery. I took all the supplements ways

99:49

to well told me everything. Besarine. I

99:52

took [ __ ] My [ __ ] piss is like glows

99:54

in the dark at night. Purple [snorts]

99:56

yellow. It's [ __ ] amazing. I did all

99:59

my PTS, all my BPC's 157, all my TB500s.

100:04

I did them for [ __ ] to the tea like

100:06

they told me to. And you know, listen,

100:09

I'm 63 and it's a 63 year old knee. So,

100:12

I don't expect to be in the UFC fighting

100:14

no Gary next week, but I could walk

100:16

around and enjoy life with no [ __ ]

100:18

pain. Or no, it's not pain. It's like

100:20

you always have an issue. You know it.

100:22

>> Yeah.

100:22

>> You always have that thing with your

100:24

knees. Sometimes it sticks. Well, then

100:26

you got to do simple [ __ ] You got to

100:28

get your a piece of paper, put on the

100:30

floor, and just roll your heel back and

100:32

forth 20 times and do kicks when you're

100:34

sitting around. All those things help

100:36

the knee. You get that band and you put

100:38

it around your leg and you just

100:39

straighten out your leg. I do that at

100:41

home. This is [ __ ] I do at home, you

100:43

know, instead of watching TV. It takes

100:44

15 [ __ ] minutes. 15 [ __ ] minutes

100:47

of your time. And I got the bull worker.

100:49

They sent me a bull worker.

100:50

>> What's that? [clears throat]

100:51

>> The thing I told you last time about

100:53

it's isometric [ __ ]

100:54

>> Oh, okay.

100:55

>> So, I did the bull work. I did the

100:57

deadlifts at the bull worker. Now I'm

100:58

[ __ ] cuz I don't know how to change

101:00

the strings. So, I got to learn how to

101:02

[ __ ] change the strings. But that's

101:03

all it was. It was preparing for the

101:05

surgery,

101:06

>> right? You can't just go in there and

101:08

not strengthen the little muscles around

101:10

the area. Yeah,

101:12

>> that's it.

101:13

>> Yeah, you got to do something. It's very

101:15

important, especially if you're going to

101:16

go into surgery. I know a lot of people

101:18

that have had knee surgery and didn't do

101:20

that. And it's a big

101:21

>> They won't go to PT. It's like, you

101:23

don't go to PT. What the [ __ ] is wrong

101:25

with you?

101:25

>> Yeah,

101:26

>> that's They came Listen, I had the

101:27

surgery Thursday. Went in my house

101:29

knocking Friday [ __ ] afternoon. I was

101:31

home Friday from the hospital and they

101:33

said, "They're coming over today.

101:36

That [ __ ] had me going up and

101:38

downstairs, walking outside with the

101:40

cane, getting in and out of the tub. He

101:42

was I don't even have a tub. I have a

101:43

walking shower. But he was like, I'm

101:45

going to do everything with you. So, it

101:47

was pretty [ __ ] like I said, this

101:49

surgery was a lot better. The company

101:52

that I did business with was a lot

101:54

better. Last time I did it at Sennate,

101:57

that's like a medical network in New

101:59

Jersey. Not bad. They have a great

102:01

facility there. But you know when I went

102:04

to do the surgery, my acupuncturist

102:05

said, "When you go talk to that guy the

102:08

day before the surgery, ask him about

102:10

the sanitary conditions at the

102:12

hospital."

102:13

So when I went, I said, "Hey, what's the

102:15

sanitary conditions at the hospital?"

102:16

He's like, "Ah, you hear rumors.

102:19

And then when I went for the surgery,

102:21

they prepped me up. They gave me

102:22

everything. They gave me the IV. They

102:24

were right about to do that thinging you

102:26

right back." And he said, "We're not

102:28

doing the surgery. I don't agree with

102:30

sanit." I was pissed, but I'm like

102:32

happy. I could have ended up

102:33

>> Doctor didn't agree with the sanitary

102:34

conditions.

102:35

>> He came out and said, "Oh, no, not

102:37

today. We'll do it next week at a

102:39

different hospital."

102:40

>> What?

102:41

>> Yeah,

102:41

>> that's So, what were people getting

102:43

Mercer or something?

102:44

>> Something that Mercer in there, and

102:45

they're like, "No." Everybody was

102:46

telling me, "Be careful with the Mercer

102:48

in that hospital."

102:48

>> Oh, Mercer is [ __ ] terrifying.

102:50

>> But the funny thing was he gave me a 20

102:52

milligram oxy, which they never gave

102:53

you.

102:54

>> That's a strong [ __ ] And I

102:56

forgot I took it. Remember I told you? I

102:58

forgot. I'm in a Chinese restaurant

102:59

yelling Gino. I'm like, what [laughter]

103:01

the [ __ ] is wrong with me? Oh [ __ ] I

103:03

took that 20. I was [ __ ] up for 8

103:05

hours on that thing.

103:06

>> So they give it to you before the

103:07

surgery?

103:08

>> Yeah, just one other precocion. They did

103:10

that. The

103:10

>> a precaution.

103:11

>> Yeah, precaution. Whatever the [ __ ]

103:13

[laughter]

103:13

So you don't wake up in the middle of

103:15

surgery yelling and [ __ ] screaming

103:16

like a [ __ ]

103:18

They do that. The epidural. The epidural

103:21

was tough because I felt it in my nut

103:22

sack. Like they give you a couple shots

103:24

and one of the shots made me actually go

103:26

like this cuz I felt it on the bottom

103:29

towards the end of the nut sack. Not the

103:31

meat potatoes part but towards the end

103:33

close to the muffler.

103:38

[laughter]

103:38

>> I was like this is not bueno dog.

103:41

>> What is the thing they do? Uh I I saw

103:43

this video online about it. It's like I

103:46

think it's called nerve ablation. I

103:48

might be making that up, but they they

103:49

literally like cut the nerves off when

103:51

people have back pain. Like some people

103:54

with back pain, it's like they're in

103:55

constant nerve pain and they were

103:57

showing how they just snip the nerves

104:00

and I was like, "Wait, wait a minute.

104:02

Could is that hinder your movement? Like

104:04

what is what happens there? Is this it?"

104:07

>> Mhm.

104:08

>> Yeah. So, what is that? Radio frequency

104:11

ablation for back pain management. What

104:13

does it mean? Like what does that what

104:15

do they do? Cuz the way I was looking at

104:17

online, I'm like, it looks like they

104:18

just cut the nerves. A minimally

104:20

invasive outpatient procedure uses heat

104:23

to intentionally damage nerves carrying

104:26

pain signals from the spine to the

104:28

brain. Primarily provides long lasting

104:30

relief for chronic back pain caused by

104:33

arthritis or facet joint degeneration.

104:36

Wow. But does does that mean your back

104:39

just keeps getting worse, but you don't

104:40

feel it?

104:43

What happens when you do that? Duration

104:47

back, please. Uh, the procedure

104:49

typically takes 30 to 60 minutes. You

104:51

could usually go home the same day. Pain

104:53

relief is not immediate. Often takes 1

104:55

to 3 weeks for the nerve to fully

104:57

settle. Relief typically lasts anywhere

104:59

from 6 to 12 months. Although it can

105:01

last for several years for some

105:02

patients. Are the nerves permanently

105:04

destroyed? No. The nerves regenerate

105:06

over time. When the nerve grows back,

105:08

your pain may return, but the procedure

105:10

can be repeated.

105:12

What is the recovery and risks? What's

105:14

the risks? Uh, complications are rare

105:17

but include infection, bleeding at the

105:19

insertion site, temporary numbness, or

105:21

skin irritation. Oh, normal stuff. Huh.

105:27

Interesting. Pain. That's nuts, man.

105:29

Just shut off the pain. You kind of want

105:31

to know if it hurts, though. No, I would

105:33

imagine like you're doing more damage if

105:35

you're if it hurts,

105:38

>> right?

105:38

>> It's like cortisol. you're numbing it,

105:40

right?

105:40

>> And then it keeps getting worse, but you

105:42

don't feel

105:43

>> Well, especially cortisone. With

105:45

cortisone, you can only do that so many

105:47

times for like joints like it can

105:50

degrade tendons and stuff cuz some

105:52

people their knuckleheads, they just

105:54

keep getting cortisone shots. Next thing

105:55

you know, your shoulder falls apart.

105:56

>> Yeah. You don't know. That's the worst

105:58

thing.

105:58

>> Yeah. You could tear tear.

106:00

>> That's what they'll let you do if you

106:02

let them. So, this is what I'm saying.

106:03

Unless you check out what option Listen,

106:05

it's 2026, man.

106:07

>> I'm scared of needles. And I'll tell

106:09

you, half my life I [ __ ] up because I

106:11

was scared of needles. If I would have

106:14

just I don't know what it was. I was

106:16

just scared of needles. Now I'll [ __ ]

106:19

take a needle wherever the [ __ ] you want

106:21

to give it to them. [laughter]

106:22

>> You know what I'm saying? Like now you

106:23

can shoot me while I'm standing up. I

106:25

don't

106:25

>> Once you get used to doing peptides,

106:27

needles don't mean [ __ ]

106:28

>> And those are diabetic needles. They

106:29

don't do [ __ ]

106:30

>> It's like It's good to stop taking

106:32

medicine if you don't want to.

106:33

>> Ah, that makes sense. So [clears throat]

106:35

if you're in pain anyway. So a success

106:38

rate is 70 to 85%.

106:41

It's most stressful when the procedure

106:43

targets the medial branch nerves

106:45

responsible for facet joint arthritis.

106:47

Success typically refi defined as 50% or

106:50

greater reduction in lower back pain. U

106:52

better physical function. Reduced need

106:54

for pain medication. That's big because

106:56

some people they're just [ __ ] in

106:58

especially back stuff. Some people are

107:00

just in agony every day. they wake up

107:02

and they're just in agony and it's a

107:05

long road back, you know, to get in. If

107:08

you have back pain, it's a long road to

107:10

heal that [ __ ] And you got to be very,

107:12

very smart about it. And you got to

107:14

stretch. That's one thing that a lot of

107:16

people don't like to do. A lot of lower

107:18

back pain. You a lot of that is just

107:21

everything's tight and you can stretch

107:23

and relieve a lot of that [ __ ] A lot of

107:25

that.

107:26

>> Yoga comes in handy. You don't go

107:27

anymore, do you? You don't go anymore.

107:29

>> I do a lot of yoga things though. a

107:31

house.

107:31

>> I haven't. Yeah, we actually have a yoga

107:33

room in the studio. I've never used it.

107:35

We got a heated room. We could crank

107:37

that [ __ ] up to 105 degrees and do

107:40

>> I haven't done the red light. I'll tell

107:41

you what else I did after the surgery

107:43

that worked. The hyperbaric chamber.

107:45

>> Oh yeah, that's big.

107:46

>> I did that twice a week. I still got

107:48

>> for recovery. For recovery, that's

107:50

fantastic.

107:50

>> And my oxygen levels are always low.

107:52

Joe, I got to figure I got to talk to

107:54

ways too well tomorrow. Every morning I

107:56

wake up 88%. You know, I'm always in the

107:59

red zone. I got to cuz I think lack of

108:01

oxygen is helping me burn fat and a lot

108:03

of other [ __ ] I My oxygen's at 88 some

108:06

days. 8 [ __ ] five.

108:08

>> Why would that help you burn fat?

108:10

>> Because you need oxygen to do

108:12

everything. You need oxygen for a

108:13

[ __ ] fire.

108:14

>> So if you have low oxygen, you burn fat.

108:16

>> How can you recuperate? How can you

108:18

fully recuperate with no oxygen in your

108:20

[ __ ] I think I don't [ __ ] know.

108:24

I'm not sure that's correct, but I think

108:27

that

108:28

um the more you exercise, the more

108:31

you're going to get oxygen in your

108:33

system for sure. Hyprobaric pain chamber

108:35

will help, but once you're like fully

108:37

healed up and you can really exercise on

108:39

a regular basis, it'll get back to

108:40

normal. [snorts]

108:42

>> No, because I do breath exercise every

108:44

morning. That's what you have to do. You

108:45

have to breathe through your nose like

108:46

10 times and then hold it and then I

108:48

take the

108:49

>> What do they think is causing it? The

108:50

low oxygen.

108:51

>> They don't know.

108:52

>> They don't know.

108:52

>> They don't know nothing. They don't know

108:53

nothing. They don't want to find out

108:54

nothing.

108:55

>> But I'll take the cord and the the clip

108:57

that you put on your finger and put on

108:59

my ear. It gives you a better read.

109:01

[laughter]

109:03

>> What's more accurate

109:05

>> so far? The ear for me. I learned that

109:07

from an old Filipino lady. Oh yeah.

109:09

>> In the hospital. She had all the tricks.

109:11

>> So I do that. I test it. You know, when

109:13

I wake up in the morning, I have it. I

109:14

check my blood pressure like twice a

109:16

day. It's the best it's been in 20

109:18

[ __ ] years.

109:19

>> I think some of those Fitbits can do

109:21

that [ __ ] now. Can they do that? What

109:23

>> do they measure oxygen levels?

109:27

>> Some of those um really advanced

109:29

wearable devices can measure oxygen

109:31

levels too now I think. Are they Is that

109:34

real?

109:36

>> Or is it?

109:37

>> Yeah. Yeah, they all do. They all do.

109:38

That's part of the deal. They measure

109:40

your uh heart rate heart rate variable

109:43

>> like those wearables like the wrist

109:44

stuff.

109:44

>> Yeah.

109:45

>> Oh, really?

109:45

>> So, I'll tell you what I got in mine. I

109:47

got uh

109:49

the [ __ ] in the mornings. It tells you.

109:51

>> What are you wearing? A Whoop.

109:52

>> Whoop. Yeah. Within

109:53

>> It does that. The Whoop tests oxygen

109:55

levels.

109:57

>> No,

109:59

it has respiratory rate.

110:01

>> I got to get back on the Whoop. I used

110:03

to use it all the time, but they got

110:05

they've gotten even better.

110:06

>> Yeah, they This one is a lot better. My

110:07

heart rate's good today. My oxygen is 91

110:10

because I'm here with you.

110:12

>> And my uh skin temperature is minus one.

110:14

So, it texts all that [ __ ] I uh my

110:17

problem with wearables is all these

110:19

tattoos. So like this. Oh, okay. It's

110:22

reading it now. This reads my heart

110:24

rate. This is a Garmin. It reads my

110:26

heart rate some. All right. Now it's not

110:28

like it doesn't read through the tattoos

110:30

very well. I have to like move it around

110:31

[snorts] to get

110:32

>> [ __ ] insane.

110:34

>> Yeah,

110:34

>> that's [ __ ] insane.

110:35

>> You can't read through the tattoos

110:37

because the ink's in the way. Doesn't,

110:39

you know, it's it's it's literally using

110:41

some sort of a visual um system. It's

110:44

like it's light. Like if you look at the

110:46

back of the watch, there's a there's

110:49

like a light back there. See?

110:51

>> Yeah. I have the same.

110:52

>> So that is flashing into your uh veins

110:56

and then it somehow or another gets

110:58

information from that and that's how it

111:00

tells you the same thing.

111:02

>> Yeah. So the problem is all these

111:03

tattoos I thought about like removing my

111:07

tattoos just around the whole the circle

111:09

where the watch goes just like go get it

111:11

lasered. I might do it because I don't

111:14

see that anyway. I'm always No,

111:16

>> I always have a watch on and so like now

111:18

it's reading.

111:19

>> They're speaking about, you know,

111:21

burning your nerves and all that [ __ ]

111:22

and that thing that

111:24

>> I remember one year I had a fung I still

111:26

got a fungi toenail but I had the really

111:28

bad fungi toenail and I saw a thing in

111:31

group on for a company in Studio City

111:33

that blowtorched it with heat for six

111:36

sessions.

111:36

>> It kill the fungus.

111:37

>> Yeah. No, it never worked but I went

111:39

anyway. And the lady would put like a

111:41

mask on, would [laughter] [ __ ] And

111:43

she'd look at my toe like you would see

111:45

a [ __ ] And as she was burning it, you

111:47

could smell the fungus burning. It

111:50

smells like dead [ __ ] [ __ ]

111:53

>> And she would be there and I would ask

111:55

her questions so she'd have to pull the

111:57

mats off, [laughter]

112:02

take a whiff of this [ __ ] fungi

112:04

toenail. Oh, there's times I buff it out

112:07

myself now cuz nobody will buff it out

112:08

for me. Like I can't take it to a

112:10

Chinese woman. They'll lose their mind.

112:12

>> Can you put like antifungus cream on it?

112:14

>> I put everything on it. It's too deep.

112:15

It just fungus runs deep. This is

112:18

[laughter] This is the fungus I brought

112:19

back from Cuba. It and it's it [ __ ]

112:22

pops up from time to time. I get under

112:24

my tit like it just the fungus just

112:26

grows. I don't know what I have to eat.

112:27

Like some days I eat something and it

112:29

backfires and I get all these fungus

112:31

marks. I get all itchy and [ __ ] out of a

112:33

creep. [laughter]

112:36

But this [ __ ] burnt that toe for six

112:39

weeks. And every week I would ask her

112:40

more creepy questions. [laughter] She

112:42

would have to take that mask off and

112:45

smell that fungus. Dog. It was horrible.

112:48

When [laughter] she would walk out, she

112:49

closed the door like I was like, "Nope."

112:52

And the thing never worked. She never

112:54

burned me once. But she was serious with

112:56

that blow torch.

112:57

>> It didn't work.

112:58

>> No, it did nothing. I told you the

113:00

fungus is too deep. So they to get rid

113:02

of that, you have to do a liver test to

113:04

see how strong cuz the zapping is

113:06

[ __ ] hard on your body and it's

113:08

really hard on your liver. So my liver

113:10

didn't cut it, so they can't zap me with

113:12

that medication.

113:14

>> Did you hear about that lady who had

113:16

Alzheimer's, she couldn't talk anymore.

113:18

They gave her five grams of psilocybin

113:20

mushrooms

113:21

>> and she's singing opera now.

113:23

>> All a sudden she came back. Started

113:24

talking.

113:26

>> They said she hadn't talked in a long

113:27

time. She could remember things.

113:31

I know for a fact I got a good buddy of

113:33

mine that stuted. That was his childhood

113:35

thing. Every time he smoked crack, you

113:37

should have seen that [ __ ] Not

113:38

a strut in there. He talks to you

113:40

straight.

113:41

>> Paul, you know Paul Stamuts, the

113:42

mushroom expert. He's been on this

113:44

podcast many times. He's an illegitimate

113:46

micologist, like a scientist.

113:48

>> He had a horrible stutter when he was a

113:50

kid. Took 10 grams.

113:52

>> Gone.

113:53

>> Gone.

113:53

>> Gone. It's unreal. And people will still

113:55

go, "Nah, mushrooms are deadly. They're

113:57

going to kill you. [ __ ] you."

113:59

>> Isn't that crazy? You need to see the

114:00

devil every once in a while in your

114:02

life. And that's what people don't. They

114:03

don't see the downside because eating

114:05

those mushrooms from time to time makes

114:06

you step out like THC does and makes you

114:08

look at yourself and make like a

114:10

judgment call on what the [ __ ] you're

114:12

doing with your life.

114:13

>> What are you doing with your life? Are

114:14

you chewing that [ __ ] zin and talking

114:16

at the same time?

114:16

>> Yeah. I I don't know. I don't have big

114:18

enough [ __ ] gums, I guess. I don't

114:20

know. Don't stay there.

114:21

>> Yeah. It's the the real problem is that

114:24

it's illegal. You know what they should

114:25

do with that? You know what they did

114:26

with Colorado with 39% tax? Make

114:29

mushrooms 100%. Tax it 100%. We'll still

114:32

buy them. People will still buy. Make it

114:34

legal. Tax it 100%. You know how much

114:36

[ __ ] money they would generate. And I

114:38

guarantee you Well, I was going to say

114:41

people wouldn't be doing more mushrooms,

114:43

but they definitely would

114:44

>> if you' be good for everybody.

114:46

>> Listen, the only thing that stalls

114:47

people from mushrooms is the taste. Most

114:49

people put it in the grinder and then

114:51

they put it in capsules and they do it

114:52

that way. All different things.

114:54

>> That should not be a hurdle in 2026. You

114:56

told me you were going to get that

114:58

property a couple years ago, which you

114:59

didn't get.

115:00

>> Mhm.

115:00

>> I thought you were going to grow

115:01

mushrooms out there.

115:02

>> Like get somebody to set it up and Joe

115:04

Rogan's mushrooms.

115:05

>> Why? I would never do that

115:06

>> with your [ __ ] recipe. Like

115:08

>> no, it's that's that's not legal. I

115:10

would [snorts] uh it's not legal any

115:13

federally. That's the problem. I mean,

115:15

this is part of what Trump is trying to

115:17

change with this psychedelics act.

115:19

>> So all that [ __ ] was made illegal in

115:22

1970. It was the Nixon administration,

115:24

the Controlled Substances Act. If that

115:27

hadn't happened in 1970, we would be

115:30

living in a better world. Like

115:31

legitimately, we would be living in a

115:33

better world. You'd have way more people

115:35

having access to this stuff. Way more

115:37

people that could get over whatever the

115:39

[ __ ] their hurdle is, whatever problem

115:41

they have, whatever it is. It's not for

115:44

everybody. There's a lot of people that

115:45

shouldn't do it. There's a lot of people

115:46

that are schizophrenic and that they

115:48

just need one mushroom trip and they're

115:51

gone and they're never coming back.

115:53

There's a lot of people that are hanging

115:54

on. They're hanging on. And one edible,

115:58

>> one mushroom trip, one one one meeting

116:02

with the devil and they never come back.

116:04

That's true. But those people were

116:05

already [ __ ] That's the problem. But

116:07

for the rest of us, for the rest of the

116:08

world, which is like most things, like

116:12

some people eat a Brazil nut, they're

116:14

dead, right? Some people eat peanuts and

116:16

they're dead. They have a deadly allergy

116:19

to peanuts. I could eat peanuts all day

116:21

long.

116:21

>> Can you look up how many people die

116:22

every year from [ __ ] peanuts?

116:24

>> It's quite a few.

116:25

>> Come on.

116:25

>> Yeah, it's quite a few. It's kind of

116:27

shocking. Some

116:29

>> Why?

116:29

>> Well, here's the really crazy thing.

116:31

[snorts] A lot of people think it has to

116:33

do with vaccines. They think, this is

116:35

Brett Weinstein's proposal, is that when

116:38

you take that vaccine, so there's

116:40

aluminum in the vaccine that's an

116:42

irritant, right? And this is what fires

116:44

up your immune system. And then there's

116:46

the dead virus. So your body develops

116:48

these

116:48

>> anti one to four annually. Give me

116:50

>> a lot of people.

116:51

>> Huh?

116:51

>> It's a lot of people.

116:53

>> No. Four people.

116:54

>> Four whole people. What about in the

116:56

world? How many people die for about

116:58

It's four in the world cuz none of them

116:59

die anywhere else.

117:01

>> Food allergies in general responsible

117:02

about 100 deaths.

117:04

>> Yeah. This this all made up white people

117:07

[ __ ]

117:08

>> Well, there's a few people though that

117:09

just avoid the peanuts. But there are

117:11

people that if they get peanuts they'll

117:13

die. Brett Weinstein thinks it has to do

117:16

with eating peanuts right after you've

117:18

been vaccinated and that something I

117:20

don't know if he's right but something

117:22

about your body reacting is the reason

117:25

why your body creates this antibbody to

117:26

the dead v the dead virus that's in the

117:28

vaccine. You know, if you give someone

117:30

um whatever it is, any figure out

117:32

whatever the disease is, you have a dead

117:34

virus and then you have this irritant.

117:36

And so the two of them together, your

117:39

body reacts to this aluminum and it used

117:43

to be um um what is the other [ __ ] they

117:47

don't put in it? There was mercury,

117:49

ethyl mercury and methyl mercury. The

117:51

two different types of mercury they've

117:52

tried to do that in vaccines, but

117:54

there's problems with that, too.

117:55

Obviously, mercury is toxic. So is

117:57

aluminum. But he thinks that if you have

118:00

aluminum from this vaccine and you're in

118:03

contact with other things at the same

118:05

time, you could develop an an allergy

118:07

for those things, whether it's wheat,

118:09

gluten, whether it's animals, whatever

118:11

it is. Like it's possible, he believes,

118:14

to develop an allergy when you get

118:16

vaccinated. And he thinks that's with

118:18

the rise in vaccines and the rise in

118:21

food allergies, he thinks those are

118:22

connected.

118:22

>> Let me ask you this.

118:23

>> I don't know if he's right. If you went

118:25

to your great your grandfather in

118:27

Newark, he's an immigrant and came over

118:29

and you told him you had a peanut

118:31

allergy, how many times would he smack

118:32

you in [clears throat] the [ __ ] face?

118:34

>> Well, he wasn't a violent man. He was

118:35

great,

118:35

>> but still he go, "Joe, what the [ __ ]

118:37

Peanuts?"

118:38

>> He would make fun of it.

118:39

>> I grew up on pine nuts every [ __ ]

118:41

day. Two pine nuts. I'm

118:43

>> I was loyal to maple syrup.

118:44

>> Well, the idea of being allergic to

118:46

bread back then was preposterous. First

118:48

of all, he would get bread like every

118:50

two days. They would go down to the

118:52

local Italian bakery and buy Italian

118:54

bread. That's the only bread everybody

118:56

ate in the house.

118:57

>> It's so funny. Like I didn't even

118:59

appreciate it back then. Like when I'd

119:00

have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich,

119:02

I'd be like, "Why do they give it to me

119:03

on this [ __ ] thick bread?" Cuz you

119:04

got to cut the bread. Yeah. You know,

119:06

I'd be like, "Give me some [ __ ] white

119:07

bread." Like a real person.

119:09

>> Well, some Wonderbread. That's what I

119:10

wanted. When you're a kid, you want

119:11

Wonderbread.

119:12

>> I love Wonder.

119:12

>> Peanut butter and jelly sandwich on a

119:14

like I'd get whole wheat. I'd be like,

119:15

"What is this horseshit?"

119:17

>> I think you'd be in prison. What is this

119:18

terrible [ __ ] shitty brand filled

119:21

wheat with [snorts] all the the [ __ ]

119:24

chunks of wheat that's in it? Get the

119:26

[ __ ] out of here with your whole wheat

119:27

bread. I hated it. Now I love it. Now

119:30

it's the only like if I see like regular

119:32

white bread, I'm like never eat.

119:33

>> Let me ask you this. That bread that

119:35

your grandfather was getting.

119:36

>> Yeah.

119:36

>> In Hoboka in Newark.

119:38

>> Newark.

119:38

>> Two blocks away. They were old school

119:40

Italian people.

119:41

>> They made everything in the 70s and 60s

119:43

with all the [ __ ] that's in now.

119:44

>> I remember the bags. Yeah. White paper.

119:47

paper bag.

119:48

>> Yeah. And the the fresh tasted great

119:50

phenomen [ __ ] great with a piece of

119:51

butter. When you dip it in the pasta

119:53

sauce in the red sauce, you go [ __ ]

119:54

crazy.

119:55

>> So good with butter. You put butter on

119:57

that bread and you dip it in that pasta

119:58

sauce. Holy [ __ ]

119:59

>> So I got to stop eating muscles.

120:02

>> All right. That's my favorite dish.

120:04

Muscles with spicy with medium. Yeah.

120:06

Because you can eat a loaf of bread. I

120:08

can't. My body can't [ __ ] do that no

120:09

more.

120:10

>> Especially with the red sauce.

120:11

>> Oh, a loaf of bread. Oh, they'll go

120:13

through the whole loaf

120:14

>> with the butter or the olive oil on the

120:16

bread. You need all that [ __ ] I said I

120:18

can't eat muscles no more. I love

120:19

muscles.

120:20

>> I go to Rudy's. I got some muscles.

120:22

They're big. They look like a [ __ ]

120:24

chick a six look like a sixoot woman's

120:26

[ __ ] They're that [ __ ] big

120:28

[laughter] the muscles. You think I'm

120:30

kidding you? These [ __ ] [ __ ] muscles.

120:32

When I go to other restaurants, you get

120:34

those little muscles, then you get a

120:35

couple big ones. No, no, no. They give

120:37

you nine big chick gorilla raised

120:41

[ __ ] [ __ ] clits and they're

120:43

[laughter] huge and they put a little

120:44

sauce on it.

120:45

>> So good.

120:46

>> Oh my god. Makes me go [ __ ]

120:49

>> There was a Thai place that I used to go

120:50

to in LA. Thai food and they had muscles

120:53

and big [ __ ] spicy muscles. They were

120:55

huge.

120:57

>> So good. Oh,

120:58

>> not the tie place Eddie took me to. The

121:00

one next to the [ __ ] tent planet on

121:02

on Labraa.

121:04

>> Oh yeah. I went in there with Eddie one

121:06

night and I already hate Thai food.

121:07

Eddie, come on. I'll buy you lunch. I'm

121:09

broke.

121:10

>> You don't like Thai food?

121:11

>> I went in there, there was ants on the

121:12

wall. [laughter]

121:14

>> I'm like, "What the fuck?" But I like uh

121:16

the one that you took your shoes off.

121:18

They had the best shrimp pate in the

121:21

country.

121:21

>> You took your shoes off?

121:22

>> Yeah. There's one on Sunset right across

121:24

from the comic book store.

121:26

>> Toy

121:26

>> toy.

121:27

>> Oh, Toy Tie. Toy. Oh, that place legit.

121:30

>> Solid place.

121:30

>> Very good place. The best place ever was

121:32

what's the place next to the Laugh

121:34

Factory?

121:36

>> Green Blast Del.

121:37

>> Green Blast Del.

121:37

>> Oh, that was that was a great joint

121:39

>> until I tell you this story. I'm in

121:40

there with Ralphie May one day and he

121:42

gets a roast beef sandwich

121:44

>> and he's eating the roast beef and I

121:46

could see the ants on his arm

121:48

>> and he opens it up and there's ants all

121:50

over the sandwich. Listen to me. He

121:51

called the waiter. The waiter still

121:52

charging for half a sandwich. [groaning]

121:55

>> That's hilarious.

121:56

>> I was like, he's like, I ain't paying

121:57

[ __ ] This [ __ ] had ants on it.

121:59

I didn't even eat the other one. The

122:01

ants were on his [ __ ] arm. Joe,

122:04

>> they weren't in the sandwich. They were

122:05

on

122:05

>> They were in the sandwich, too.

122:07

>> Oh, so it was just all over the place.

122:08

>> It were all over the place.

122:09

>> Green blats.

122:10

>> Green blats, which I'll still eat that.

122:12

I don't I don't even think it's

122:13

>> What is that?

122:16

>> I only ate there a few times, which is

122:17

weird because it was right next door to

122:19

the Laugh Factory.

122:20

>> It was good, too.

122:21

>> I kind of stopped going to the Laugh

122:23

Factory after a certain point. It was a

122:25

certain point in like the 2000s where

122:27

I'm like, I think I'm done with this

122:28

place. And I was mostly at the store.

122:31

>> Yeah, I like the Laugh Factory and I

122:32

like the improv.

122:33

>> I was like at the store. I love the

122:34

improv still. I always did the improv

122:36

still, but the Laugh Factory to me was

122:38

like there was something about it that

122:40

was like sterile. There was something

122:42

about it. Not a bad thing, but it was

122:43

like very much like a lot of people got

122:46

TV deals out of the big different kind

122:49

of comedy.

122:50

>> Yeah.

122:51

>> You know, it was uh the store was the

122:54

dream. You know, the Laugh Factor was

122:56

nice and everything, but then it was

122:58

also like, you remember Scott Day? He

123:00

would discourage, he would try to

123:01

discourage you from going to the Laugh

123:02

Factory. He's like, "You're a comedy

123:03

store comic. You're not laugh." I'm

123:05

like, "Listen, man. I got to go up

123:07

everywhere. I can't I'm developing. I

123:09

can't be just limiting myself to one."

123:11

>> But after a while, you're like, I

123:12

develop better at the store.

123:14

>> Well, this thing about the store too,

123:15

you got three totally different

123:17

environments. You got the belly room

123:19

environment, which is like very

123:20

intimate, very small, 70 people. And

123:23

then you got the O, which is the gritty.

123:26

That's that's the psychopaths at 11:30

123:29

on a [ __ ] Tuesday night. And then you

123:31

got the main room, which is the big

123:32

show. There was so much opportunity.

123:34

>> I [ __ ] always hated the main room for

123:36

the last 5 years I was there. I just

123:38

couldn't get the formula for it. But the

123:40

original room, I knew it like

123:43

everything.

123:44

>> The original room, you're locked into a

123:45

living room.

123:45

>> You're locked into it. And that's and

123:47

then the piano and the whole [ __ ]

123:49

thing.

123:50

>> The main room was big, big stage, big

123:53

crowd. It was big ceiling. Everything

123:55

was big. It was different. It was a

123:57

different kind of a show.

123:58

>> Remember the first time I showcased for

123:59

Jamie? He's like, "Man, what are you

124:01

doing here? You belong in Las Vegas,

124:04

man, in a showroom. You're not an LA

124:07

comic." That's hilarious. [ __ ]

124:09

>> Jaime always had the craziest ideas for

124:11

people.

124:11

>> But he at the end, he was a really good

124:13

guy. At the end of the day, he really

124:15

tried hard. Well, he loved comedy.

124:16

>> Yeah, he loved comedy. All those people

124:18

were very nice. You know, I just went to

124:20

Nashville for the comedy festival.

124:21

>> Uhhuh.

124:22

>> And I ended up doing the Old Osprey. You

124:24

know that theater there. What's the name

124:25

of the theater?

124:26

>> Randol Opry.

124:27

>> Yeah.

124:28

>> And it was great. But the great thing

124:30

about that that everybody from the

124:31

improv was there last night. I saw

124:33

people that were there for 25 years and

124:36

we just were dropping stories. Aaron,

124:39

the guy Hartman, Hartman looks great.

124:41

He's a big peptide guy, big everything

124:44

guy. He lives in Nashville. Uh Joel from

124:48

Florida.

124:49

>> Oh,

124:49

>> you know when you get to see those guys

124:51

and you're like, "Wow, we've been in

124:52

this [ __ ] together

124:54

>> forever."

124:54

>> Like I told Aaron, I met Aaron in

124:56

Irvine. Then she came to Hollywood and I

124:59

was like psyched cuz she gave us an

125:01

11:00 show and she was pregnant. She was

125:03

hot. She used to wear the farmer those

125:06

things that

125:07

>> overalls.

125:08

>> The overalls. Oh, she [laughter] was so

125:10

hot. I still tell them when I talk to I

125:12

always tell Aaron you sexy savage. I

125:14

always [ __ ] torment her. But it was

125:17

really nice to see them and everything

125:20

you know Harmon me told the story when I

125:22

told him I was going to bang his head

125:24

off the wall. You know just craziness

125:26

that look at us now. We're all in there

125:30

having a great time. 20 years ago we

125:32

were always at war with one of you guys.

125:34

We cursed too much. You know we were

125:36

talking about when I got fired with

125:37

Pablo.

125:38

>> Yeah. Yeah.

125:39

>> And then he found out I wasn't doing

125:40

coke and he felt really bad, you know.

125:42

So,

125:43

>> it was uh it was just great to see what

125:45

we've been through together. And now

125:47

after everything, you're like, "Fuck." I

125:49

was there the [ __ ] night Joel

125:50

started.

125:53

>> That was in Miami, right?

125:54

>> That was in Miami 98.

125:56

>> New Year's of 99.

125:57

>> That's crazy.

125:58

>> And Madonna came in with Chris [ __ ]

126:00

rock.

126:01

>> Wow. and to watch somebody New Year's

126:03

Eve. I forget who the [ __ ] it was, but

126:06

yeah, that's you look at those people

126:08

like we took the ride. We were kids. We

126:10

were [ __ ] kids together.

126:11

>> And also, you have to think like imagine

126:14

having to

126:16

employ you. Imagine being a businessman

126:19

and you got to employ you in 98.

126:22

>> God bless him.

126:23

>> Not good. [laughter]

126:25

>> God bless him.

126:26

>> I remember the improv really liked me

126:28

and I [ __ ] him over in like 200.

126:30

>> Who was the guy? The original guy at

126:32

Coconut Grove.

126:34

The guy who liked to party.

126:35

>> I forget his name now. Rich Jeff.

126:38

>> Give me a minute.

126:40

>> Yeah.

126:40

>> Give me a minute.

126:41

>> The original guy.

126:42

>> Yeah. Crazy.

126:43

>> Crazy.

126:43

>> Fun guy.

126:44

>> Really fun. He's from Cleveland. He

126:46

lived in Cleveland.

126:47

>> Like the party

126:47

>> and his wife hit the lottery for a

126:49

million dollars.

126:50

>> People didn't realize how nutty Coconut

126:52

Grove was. That was the nuttiest improv.

126:54

That improv. We would go out afterwards

126:56

and have Cuban coffee and eat Cuban

126:58

sandwiches till like 2:00 in the

127:00

morning.

127:01

>> Go to that news thing, the news stand.

127:03

>> Yeah.

127:03

>> It was open till 5:00 and it closed for

127:05

an hour.

127:05

>> Tell stories. Yeah.

127:07

>> And you could drink till all night. But

127:09

>> Oh, yeah.

127:09

>> So they [snorts] closed from 5 to 6, but

127:12

whatever booze you had on the table, you

127:14

could keep. So you would say, "Give me

127:16

like eight beers." And then they would

127:18

open up again at 6:00 and you're right

127:19

there. Hey, [laughter]

127:21

>> it closed for 1 hour.

127:23

>> At 5 in the morning.

127:25

I remember one night you were on Conan

127:27

O'Brien. This is 97, right? [snorts] No,

127:32

you did somebody's late show.

127:34

>> Okay.

127:34

>> It was the week that our friend got

127:36

shot.

127:37

>> Oh, the Hartman thing.

127:37

>> Hartman thing. You can't believe I

127:40

remember. See, I'm just telling you that

127:41

I don't know [ __ ] Look up the dates

127:43

when Hartman got shot. You were on that

127:45

show. like you were with me all weekend

127:48

and I stayed and then you went to New

127:50

York to shoot that and then that weekend

127:52

Hartman, you know, but I'll never forget

127:55

I was involved in the threesome when you

127:57

were on that talk show and I'm it's a

128:00

chubby chick and a hot chick and we're

128:02

snorting coke and I'm trying to eat ass

128:04

and I'm looking at you. I go pull on put

128:06

on NBC. So, I go watch Joe and I'm

128:08

watching you as I'm trying to tackle

128:10

these two animals and I'm [laughter]

128:11

like, "Who the [ __ ] going to believe

128:14

this?" The chubby chick got up. She's

128:16

like, "You didn't want to be with me

128:17

anyway. You always wanted the hot

128:19

chick." And slammed the door. It was a

128:20

full night. It was a [laughter] full

128:22

night, though.

128:25

>> Cocaine.

128:27

>> But all that [ __ ] you see these people

128:29

now and you're like, "Bro, we all went

128:30

through it together."

128:31

>> Yeah.

128:32

>> We all went through it together.

128:34

What a great [ __ ] thing to have at

128:36

this time in your life that we all we're

128:38

all here, you know? [ __ ] really nice,

128:41

man. It makes you go, "Wow, this comedy

128:44

life was worth every [ __ ] penny I got

128:46

into it." It was a fun ride when you

128:48

look back and you think like, imagine

128:51

when you were first starting out.

128:52

Imagine that it would turn out this way.

128:55

You never imagined it. And then you look

128:57

back, what a fun ride. What an

128:59

extraordinarily fun life. I'll never

129:02

forget and you had it pinned down from

129:04

the beginning. I never even told you

129:06

this.

129:07

One of my I got to LA like January 97

129:10

and that summer like August.

129:12

>> That guy.

129:14

[clears throat]

129:14

>> Nope.

129:16

>> No, that's Cleveland improv.

129:17

>> I know it says he owned the uh one in

129:19

Miami, too.

129:20

>> Oh, no. It was the manager.

129:22

>> Oh,

129:22

>> no worries though. Thank you. Sorry.

129:24

>> What are we talking about?

129:26

>> Uh something pinned down. Manager.

129:31

Who [ __ ] knows?

129:32

>> We were talking about

129:36

Oh, never imagining that. Looking back

129:39

on this life, like when you first

129:42

started, I would never imagine it would

129:43

turn out this way.

129:44

>> You said something about me once that

129:46

was right. Like I wasn't on the podcast,

129:47

but you were talking to somebody. You're

129:49

like, I remember when that guy first

129:50

came on the scene. He was scary. He had

129:52

a leather jacket and all this

129:53

[clears throat] [ __ ] and he was [ __ ]

129:55

wild. You know, I just got to LA and I I

129:58

do a couple spots. Uh the guys at my my

130:01

first talent coordinator at the improv

130:03

said to me, "Hey, would you like to work

130:05

Irvine or and I go, "Yeah." He goes, "I

130:07

got an MC spot. Go do it next week." My

130:10

first time I go down there and I had a

130:12

the crazy girlfriend then with all the

130:13

teeth.

130:14

>> Oh yeah.

130:14

>> And this [ __ ] head chef comes

130:16

up to me and her and he goes, "Hey,

130:18

she's got the same mouth as Gina Davis,

130:21

the nice [ __ ] mouth." That was my

130:24

first weekend ever. And at first I took

130:26

it kind of weird. And then I after the

130:28

show, I went up to him and I go, "Hey

130:30

man, who the [ __ ] do you think you are

130:33

saying something like that?" He goes,

130:34

"What are you doing? If you go at me,

130:35

you'll never work on improv again." I

130:37

just kicked him in the [ __ ] stomach

130:38

as hard as I could. They called me the

130:40

next day. Go, come on, man. I kicked

130:42

him. The guy fell apart. All of a

130:44

sudden, he wasn't a tough guy no more. I

130:45

was just so pissed. How can you say that

130:47

to somebody's [ __ ] girlfriend to a

130:49

face? I just [ __ ] front kicked him

130:51

and I hit him somewhere in the stomach.

130:53

He was holding on. I'm calling Hartman.

130:54

Call [ __ ] Hartman. I don't give a

130:56

[ __ ] I remember getting in the car

130:59

going, "Joey, you can't let the old Joey

131:00

get in the way, man. This is not good.

131:03

You should have just walked away." But

131:04

no, why would I walk away? [ __ ] that

131:06

[ __ ] That was the problem. A lot of

131:08

people would walk away from that [ __ ]

131:10

and you just lost. You just became a

131:11

Hollywood [ __ ] When you say [ __ ]

131:13

you, they'll respect you [ __ ] more a

131:15

year later. And they did. They ended up

131:17

giving me more work. So,

131:18

>> was that guy still there when you went

131:19

back?

131:20

>> No. He was like a a cute cook that

131:21

thought he was cute. like he Orange

131:23

County, he wasn't gonna get smacked. I

131:25

don't give a [ __ ] who you are. [gasps] I

131:27

[ __ ] kicked that [ __ ] I

131:29

didn't give a [ __ ] Jack. I was so buck

131:31

wild at the store in the beginning when

131:33

I hit the kid in the head with the

131:34

microphone

131:36

and then they came and got me in La Hoya

131:38

and I took the pool c the pool. Remember

131:40

they had that pool table in La Hoya? The

131:42

bumper they had a bumper pool table in

131:45

La Hoya,

131:45

>> right?

131:46

>> So these guys kept threatening me that

131:47

they were going to come games. So I got

131:49

I became [ __ ] uh

131:52

Chuck Norris and Code of Silence.

131:53

[laughter] I took all the pool balls and

131:56

I put them in different places so I had

131:58

to throw them at him as a weapon. Then I

132:00

hit all the [ __ ] pool cues. You ever

132:02

see Code of Silence? That's Seagal stole

132:05

it from him in that [ __ ] Bobby Loop

132:07

movie. But that was that was Chuck

132:09

Norris when he would fill a bag with

132:11

pool cues and hit you in the head with

132:13

it and [ __ ] in the pool hall with the

132:14

Colombians.

132:16

>> Doug and that [ __ ] I saw them.

132:18

I was sitting outside the comm the La

132:20

Hoya storm. They had that little bench

132:22

facing the Chinese restaurant. You don't

132:24

remember La Hoya no more. And I saw them

132:25

at the light and they made the turn and

132:28

I took one of those balls and I kept it

132:30

right here and they pulled up and took

132:32

water pistols out and I [ __ ] took

132:35

that ball and threw it with everything I

132:37

had and hit that car and all of a sudden

132:40

the [ __ ] car went boom. These

132:42

[ __ ] took off. Jack

132:45

>> code of silence. I remember this because

132:47

this was like the first like real movie

132:51

that like got respected by it wasn't

132:53

just a karate movie. It was a movie that

132:56

was about like an undercover cop movie,

132:58

right? Wasn't it

132:59

>> against the Colombian?

133:00

>> But it was the the fighting part was

133:02

just part of it.

133:04

>> It wasn't that it was, you know, it was

133:06

just a karate movie like most of his

133:08

other movies were just karate movies or,

133:10

you know, they were kind of campy like

133:12

missing in action. It was a lot a lot of

133:14

it based on the karate. THIS WAS OH, WE

133:17

GOT hit by the pool ball. Oh, they jump

133:20

him. This is a terrible movie.

133:22

>> This is ter This is [laughter] terrible.

133:24

I thought men

133:25

>> It was the [ __ ] back then,

133:27

>> but it's so When you watch it now,

133:28

you're like, "This is the corniest fight

133:30

scene of all time. These [clears throat]

133:30

guys would overwhelm him."

133:33

>> Listen, man. Uh,

133:36

>> good men wear black.

133:39

Chuck Norris had a couple movies where

133:41

he showed his [ __ ] This was not one of

133:44

them. Walker, Sheriff Marshall was not

133:47

one of them, [laughter] okay? With the

133:48

wig doing push-ups still on channel 89.

133:51

That wasn't him. I love Chuck Norris,

133:53

but Chuck Norris made some good movies

133:55

early on that were dark. That's why

133:57

nobody talks about Good Women Men Black.

133:59

What's the other one? The Octagon.

134:00

>> Oh yeah.

134:01

>> You forget about all those.

134:02

>> Oh yeah. Is this Good Men Good Guys Wear

134:04

Black. 1978.

134:07

Wow.

134:09

How many [ __ ] people did this guy get

134:11

into martial arts? Like how many people

134:14

because of Chuck Norris movies wind up

134:16

doing martial arts? A [ __ ] shitload.

134:20

>> I got into Tank Sudo because of him

134:23

>> because he was one of the first Tang

134:25

Sudau guys. Then he split.

134:27

>> He made his own thing or whatever the

134:29

[ __ ]

134:31

>> It's It's kind of amazing when you think

134:32

about how many karate guys didn't make

134:34

it.

134:36

>> Like how many guys didn't become karate

134:39

movie stars and Chuck Norris did? Like

134:42

how many of them were there? How many

134:43

karate guys wanted to be movie stars and

134:45

couldn't figure it out? And he did.

134:47

>> I saw every martial arts film made in

134:49

the 70s, even with the black

134:51

exploitation. The movie was called Three

134:53

the Hard Way. Jim Brown, Jim Kelly, and

134:57

other really good black.

134:58

>> What about Jim Kelly?

135:00

>> Jim Kelly was trying to break into that

135:02

thing. There was a lot of guys, a bunch

135:03

of movies.

135:04

>> And then after Bruce Lee died, the whole

135:06

thing opened up. Yeah. Jet Lie, Jet,

135:09

Bruce,

135:10

>> Bruce Lie. You had all these [ __ ]

135:12

bruises and that just that that was the

135:14

end of it. But I was notorious. I went

135:16

to see all those [ __ ] movies growing

135:18

up. Billy Jack.

135:22

>> You don't remember Billy Billy?

135:23

>> I remember Billy Jack.

135:24

>> The Indian.

135:24

>> Oh yeah. I remember. I remember the

135:26

black hat. I remember the whole damn I'm

135:27

going to put this foot on the side of

135:29

your face. All that [ __ ] damn thing.

135:31

>> They even had a white Mormon dude be

135:33

martial. Everybody Chinese, black,

135:35

everybody played [ __ ] kung fu.

135:37

Everybody. And that movie Code of

135:40

Silence is Dennis Finina's one of his

135:42

first movies. He's Oh, really? Yeah.

135:44

He's a sidekick in that movie.

135:45

>> Ah,

135:47

>> [ __ ] just, you know, people forget

135:49

how many kung fu movies or martial art

135:52

based movies they actually made in the

135:54

70s. [ __ ] unreal.

135:56

>> Oh, yeah. Unreal.

135:56

>> And the [ __ ] that was getting sent here

135:58

from China, it's like uh kid porn. They

136:00

were just sending it every weekend.

136:02

[ __ ] Chinese people beating up on

136:04

Chinese people, jumping. Remember the

136:06

more they got older, like by 70s, Bruce

136:08

died in 73. By 76, there was movies that

136:11

the guy had like a thing of gold, it

136:13

weigh like 10, two tons and he would

136:15

throw it up a hill and then jump and

136:17

catch it on top of the hill. Come on

136:18

now. You lost me. The one-armed

136:20

swordsman. You lost me. You know, the

136:22

guy's got one arm and he's

136:24

>> Some dudes love those kung fu movies.

136:26

They were completely forget about black

136:28

people. recreate like you know when

136:30

people talk about Bruce Lee it was a

136:32

sensational cultural [ __ ] phenomenon

136:36

when he came

136:37

>> and [snorts] the people that think about

136:38

all the people he opened up to martial

136:40

art movies and martial arts in general I

136:42

mean oh yeah

136:43

>> Chuck Norris was the second half of it

136:45

you know Bruce was the first Chuck

136:47

Norris was the second and I hate to

136:48

admit it UFC is the third big wave of

136:52

that that yeah

136:53

>> you know nobody goes to karate no more

136:55

okay how many karate schools you got

136:57

it's for kids 10. They make them hit a

137:00

paper,

137:00

>> you know.

137:01

>> Yeah. They're going to jiu-jitsu schools

137:02

now.

137:03

>> They're going to all different schools.

137:04

So,

137:05

>> it's changed. The culture has changed.

137:07

You know, in 73, everybody went to Wing

137:09

Chong Kung Fu.

137:10

>> Yep.

137:11

>> You taught judo, you became a Wing Chung

137:13

dude now because you weren't going to

137:15

make no money off judo. Nobody was doing

137:16

judo back then. You had to go to

137:18

Brooklyn to get Savat classes. Remember

137:21

Savat?

137:22

>> Yeah.

137:22

>> The French?

137:23

>> Yeah.

137:23

>> You had to go to Brooklyn. In those

137:25

days, New York had everything. But then

137:27

when like our friend, the one who does

137:29

the MMA podcast with you, Matt Sarah,

137:31

when Matt Sarah got into jiu-jitsu, he

137:33

would have to go from Long Island all

137:36

the way to like close to Philadelphia.

137:39

It'd be 3 hours on Sundays. Jiu-Jitsu

137:42

wasn't everywhere yet. When he got into

137:44

it, he would have to travel. He I think

137:46

he told the story, one of his podcast,

137:48

[snorts] he would have to drive to

137:49

Jersey just on Sundays. They just did

137:52

jiu-jitsu on Sundays cuz that's all that

137:54

was available. M

137:55

>> now you got a jiu-jitsu school at every

137:57

[ __ ] corner. And who's that because

137:59

of? That's because of the UFC, man. It

138:01

just blew it the [ __ ] right open. So,

138:04

who knows? I may be wrong.

138:06

>> No, I think you're right. For sure. The

138:08

UFC opened up Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Hoist

138:10

Gracie. Hoist Gracie winning the first

138:12

UFC's that opened up Brazilian jiu-jitsu

138:15

all over the country.

138:16

>> Saying, "What the [ __ ] is this?"

138:17

>> Yeah. It was a completely new I mean,

138:18

there was no Brazilian jiu-jitsu in

138:20

America. You never even talked about it.

138:21

I did martial arts my whole life. I've

138:23

never even heard of it. you heard of it,

138:25

but

138:25

>> I don't even know if I so far off to

138:27

you.

138:27

>> I barely even paid attention to it. It

138:29

was like it could have been anything.

138:31

And then all a sudden the UFC came

138:32

along. It's like, oh my god, that's the

138:34

thing that everybody needs to learn.

138:36

>> That's what's wild now. It's like how

138:38

many people trained martial arts in

138:40

comparison to like 50 years ago. It's

138:42

not There's no comparison. There's way

138:44

more people that know how to fight now

138:45

than like ever before and ever before.

138:49

>> Or at least they know how to neutralize

138:51

somebody.

138:53

Well, a lot of people are training now.

138:56

People learn to neutralize people.

138:58

Anybody who studies jiu-jitsu ain't

138:59

going to bully bully you,

139:01

>> okay? They're going to neutralize you on

139:02

the street. What are you going to do?

139:04

Break your [ __ ] shoulder on the

139:06

street. They're trying to neutralize

139:07

you, hold you down. Hey, take a breath.

139:09

Relax. Don't swing at me cuz I'll break

139:12

this [ __ ] arm. Relax.

139:13

>> Do you ever see the video of Matt Sarah?

139:15

I think it was in Atlantic City

139:16

>> and it might have been Vegas somewhere

139:18

in a casino. Some drunk guy is causing

139:21

problems and Matt winds up taking him

139:23

down and mounting him until the the cops

139:25

come. He's just holding on to the guy.

139:26

He's just sitting on the guy holding on.

139:28

There it is. The guy's swinging. Look at

139:30

Matt. Like you've got a literal

139:32

Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion and

139:35

he's just mounting you laughing. Like

139:38

you think about picking on the wrong

139:40

guy. [laughter] He's just holding I mean

139:42

the guy's completely helpless.

139:45

I don't remember the whole story behind

139:47

this. Look at the security guard coming.

139:49

And I was like, "Relax. I got this guy."

139:50

>> You and I both know Mac could kick him

139:52

in the face and get up and leave.

139:54

>> He could literally

139:54

>> This is what I'm telling you. The

139:55

jiu-jitsu that atmosphere doesn't teach

139:58

you to do that. He just holds you down

139:59

going, "Hey."

140:00

>> Well, he has nothing to prove. You know,

140:01

>> no. Catch your breath.

140:03

>> He's laughing. World champion. I mean, I

140:05

don't know if he had been the UFC

140:07

champion by that time, but you know,

140:08

>> what are you going to do? Kamar somebody

140:09

on the street and break their shoulder?

140:11

Now you have to live. You're going to go

140:12

to jail. You're going to get sued. You

140:14

lose everything.

140:15

>> I know jiu-jitsu people take you down

140:16

like they're bouncers. Yeah.

140:18

>> Did he just neutralize you? It

140:19

>> was the night before his Hall of Fame

140:20

induction to the [laughter]

140:23

>> 2018.

140:25

>> Okay. So, that's way past the time that

140:26

he won the title. Yeah. That's

140:28

hilarious. That's That's very funny.

140:30

That poor guy. Imagine like knowing that

140:32

guy could have killed you and he was

140:34

just so nice. All he did was hold your

140:36

wrists and sit on your chest for a

140:37

little while.

140:37

>> Look at him. He look like he was on a

140:39

boat having a good time. He's like,

140:40

"Hey, somebody get me a water or

140:42

something."

140:42

>> He's the guy's literally helpless. He

140:44

has no fear whatsoever of that guy

140:46

hurting him, you know? It's like it's

140:48

like a child. It's like your little

140:50

child's having a temper tantrum. Like,

140:52

come on. It's [snorts] Matt's terror.

140:54

It's funny. There's so many dummies out

140:56

there. This is a part of the problem in

140:58

this world. It's hard to get your [ __ ]

140:59

together. So many people just stumble

141:01

through life just never getting their

141:03

[ __ ] together.

141:04

>> [ __ ] my friend last night. She has

141:06

like a cooking show on YouTube. She

141:09

goes, "I had to stop doing it, Joey."

141:13

He goes, "My mother would watch and

141:14

these people would say like the weirdest

141:17

like you know everything, show me your

141:19

tit, show me your [ __ ] you can't cook,

141:20

[ __ ] [laughter]

141:22

and you're like, you know, how much

141:24

longer am I going to take this [ __ ]

141:26

for?"

141:26

>> People are so horrible.

141:27

>> They're [ __ ] horrible on the

141:28

internet. You know, he's this young girl

141:30

looking good. [laughter] She like, Joey,

141:32

I had to cancel the [ __ ] thing. She

141:34

was doing like a workout, a cooking

141:36

thing. She goes, "No, I just play with

141:37

my cats. That's it." And people love

141:39

cats. She goes, "That's it." But it's

141:41

it's impossible. The [ __ ] you say so

141:44

many animals out there

141:45

>> and they're out there and they don't

141:46

give a [ __ ] and they say [ __ ]

141:48

>> It's also there's zero consequences for

141:50

saying horrible [ __ ]

141:51

>> And they're trying to get a rise out of

141:53

the other people in the comments, too.

141:54

So, they're trying to say outrageous

141:55

[ __ ] so that other people react to it so

141:58

that you'll read it, you'll react to it.

142:00

>> It's It's the dumbest [ __ ] thing

142:02

ever.

142:02

>> It is. I was thinking this last night.

142:06

It's kind of a crazy thought, but you

142:08

know, everyone is addicted right now to

142:10

social media and addicted to going

142:12

online and just addicted to content.

142:14

You're constantly getting content.

142:15

You're constantly interacting with your

142:17

phone. And this is a very new thing,

142:19

right? It's within the last 20 years

142:21

this has happened to people. This is

142:23

like prepping us for what's coming next.

142:25

We're going to look back on these days

142:27

and we're going to realize, oh, the

142:30

addictions to the phones, the addictions

142:32

to staring at the screens and checking

142:34

your email and looking at YouTube and

142:35

looking at Instagram and looking at

142:37

Twitter, that's just preparing you for

142:40

you being completely connected to

142:42

electronics forever. This is like the

142:45

early stages of it. I was thinking about

142:48

it last night while I was watching this

142:49

television show. I'm watching this crazy

142:51

show. It's called From. Have you seen

142:53

this show?

142:53

>> No. No. It's nuts by the guys who made

142:56

Lost. One of the dudes that's in Lost is

142:59

the main star of it. It's [ __ ] great

143:01

show. Like really good show. Like very

143:03

unpredictable, twisted, just like Lost.

143:06

Like crazy show about these people stuck

143:08

in this town. They can't get out. It's

143:09

impossible to get out. But I was

143:12

thinking while I was watching this, I

143:13

was like, why why is everyone because no

143:15

one has a phone there and everyone's

143:17

just locked into this place. I was like,

143:19

your phone is preparing you. The

143:21

addiction to our phones are preparing us

143:24

to the next stage of what life is going

143:27

to be like as a person. This is just the

143:30

gate. The phones are the gate. But

143:33

what's coming next? You're going to

143:35

reminisce about the days of the phone.

143:37

Oh, you remember when we had phones? We

143:40

had to look things up. You had a little

143:41

thing. You got to charge it. Remember

143:42

when you had to charge it? That's how

143:44

we're going to be. We're moving into

143:46

some weird new area. They're building

143:48

these [ __ ] data centers everywhere

143:50

and everyone's like, "Oh, the data

143:52

center. [ __ ] great." Like, what? What is

143:54

that? What are you doing? Why are you

143:56

building these things that need to be

143:57

powered by nuclear reactors? Why you do

143:59

Why you building these things that are

144:00

sucking up all the [ __ ] water? Why

144:02

are they putting these things out in the

144:03

middle of the desert, big as [ __ ]

144:05

five football fields, huge [ __ ] giant

144:08

buildings filled with computers? Like,

144:10

what the [ __ ] are we doing?

144:14

And the gates is this goddamn phone.

144:16

This phone is the gate. We're We're

144:19

opening up the door to us completely.

144:21

>> I'll tell you why. My daughter can't

144:23

watch a whole movie.

144:24

>> They have no attention span. 40 minutes

144:27

in, she has to leave and then she'll

144:29

start it from the next day. I had to

144:31

watch Scarface though.

144:33

>> You had her watch Scarface?

144:34

>> Yeah, cuz she we watch we do

144:35

experimentals at the house. [laughter]

144:37

We did the fight club. We do all that

144:39

[ __ ] So she said, "Dad, I always only

144:41

watch the part when he shoots the the

144:46

brother-in-law, you know, that's the

144:48

only part of it. It's always on when I

144:50

come down." I go, "I want to watch from

144:51

the beginning." She enjoyed it for a

144:53

little while. I went upstairs. After one

144:56

scene, I'm like, "I can't watch this

144:57

again." She goes, "I'll stay up."

145:00

Two days later, mother goes, "Did you

145:01

see the review she wrote on it?" And I

145:04

go, "No." She goes, "Take a look at it."

145:06

And she's like, "I enjoyed the movie. I

145:09

was a fan because it was CubanAmerican.

145:11

But then as the movie rolled on, I

145:13

figured these Cubans don't know how to

145:15

treat women. [laughter] He goes,

145:21

they smacking them and shooting.

145:23

>> All you do is turn around. [laughter]

145:25

Wait for me. [ __ ] you.

145:27

>> She didn't [ __ ] like that at all.

145:29

She's like, I know my dad's Cuban, but

145:31

Jesus Christ, they're so mean to their

145:33

women.

145:35

>> I'm like, [snorts] do I act like that?

145:36

She go, no, but cocaine days.

145:39

>> Yeah. She said, she goes, "That gave men

145:40

a different [ __ ] thing." I go, "That

145:43

was 40 [ __ ] years ago."

145:45

>> Not only that, you're dealing with the

145:46

people that were the criminals of Cuba

145:48

that were kicked out of Cuba that made

145:50

their way to America. Like, this is not

145:52

normal people.

145:53

>> No. No. And now they're about to let the

145:56

second half out. Everything

145:58

>> What are they doing to Cuba right now?

146:00

Like,

146:00

>> well, they're not surviving. They don't

146:02

have any uh power, no gasoline. It's

146:06

funny because every couple days I get an

146:09

algorithm was just promoting Cuban

146:12

videos.

146:13

Cuban videos. People in like they had

146:15

kids going to work out.

146:19

They took them to like this little

146:20

place. Everything had papers on it. They

146:23

did pull-ups, situps with the head. The

146:25

pipes were broken. You got to see these

146:27

[ __ ] kids doing full workouts where

146:30

what we wouldn't even look at. They're

146:32

body weightight workouts, you know?

146:35

They talking they they go around

146:36

Baradero and they interview people and I

146:39

don't know what this is doing. I don't

146:41

know what this is doing because we're

146:42

two years away from Cuba being legit.

146:45

They're going to go back down there

146:46

after this whole thing goes or Raul or

146:48

whatever, whatever they decide they

146:50

can't get fuel from Venezuela. How long

146:52

is it going to take? I mean, they're not

146:53

going to be happy till they have a

146:54

Starbucks in Cuba.

146:56

>> So, what happened was they were getting

146:58

their oil from Venezuela, right? We took

147:00

over Venezuela. We cut off their oil.

147:01

>> Cut them off. And so what is the United

147:03

States trying to do with Cuba right now?

147:05

They're trying to get rid of the

147:07

communist government.

147:08

>> They're trying to Well, they're going to

147:09

they charged Raul Castro with something

147:11

recently. That's the beginning. This is

147:13

going to end up like

147:14

>> Fidel's brother.

147:15

>> You're going to wake up one day and on

147:17

ABC News. There they are in Cuba pulling

147:20

people out. And

147:21

>> but doesn't China and Russia have a

147:23

relationship with Cuba? Isn't that a

147:24

problem?

147:25

>> Not really, because they're not paying

147:27

their bills. That's why Cuba's starving.

147:29

When they had Russia, Russia was [ __ ]

147:31

doing everything, but then they didn't

147:33

need them no more and they cut them off.

147:35

>> I think there's they do small trades for

147:37

sugar or something.

147:37

>> It is kind of crazy for the United

147:39

States to have an enemy that's 90

147:41

minutes offshore in a boat.

147:45

>> Trump administration said on 2026, May

147:48

20th, indicted former Cuban President

147:50

Rul Castro for murder based on the

147:52

downing of two planes near the Cuban

147:54

coastline in 1996 that killed four

147:56

people. As a historian of Latin American

147:59

and US foreign policy, I believe the

148:00

indictment may be the prelude to a

148:02

direct US military action against Cuba.

148:04

>> This is the beginning.

148:05

>> This is uh Kevin A. Young from UMass

148:08

Amhurst. Uh before Castro, the last US

148:11

indictment of a Latin American leader

148:12

occurred in January 2026. That's the

148:16

Venezuela thing. Since January, US has

148:19

ended the flow of Venezuelan oil to Cuba

148:21

and has economic and military pressure

148:23

to prevent other nations from trading

148:24

with the island. Trump recently

148:26

threatened a friendly takeover of Cuba.

148:29

I believe what's missing from most

148:31

recent analysis of this situation is the

148:33

history of US aggression against Cuba is

148:36

essential context for understanding the

148:38

Trump administration's recent

148:39

escalations.

148:41

>> Yeah. Once they indict you, they're

148:42

coming for you. It's just a matter of

148:44

time.

148:44

>> Like the starving the country.

148:46

>> We walk up. Yeah. They just

148:47

>> And then they'll come up with a

148:48

solution. Here's your solution. You need

148:50

to put in new leadership.

148:51

>> But they're not telling you there's a

148:52

shooting or two in Cuba every night.

148:53

Cuba's not getting there's no power.

148:56

There's no electricity. They have

148:58

roaring what do you call and that was

149:00

yesterday

149:01

>> earthquake.

149:01

>> Yeah. Biggest one in 15 years.

149:03

>> So they're just [ __ ] they're doing

149:05

everything they can say was the biggest

149:06

one in over 150 years.

149:08

>> Oh my god.

149:09

>> Yeah. So everything is looking like

149:11

right now that's it. They can survive

149:13

this.

149:14

>> [ __ ]

149:15

>> So

149:16

>> So what happens to those people? They

149:17

just wait this out or the United States

149:20

and so they get no resources, no

149:22

supplies.

149:23

>> You got two things in Cuba. You have

149:25

people that don't know.

149:28

>> You never watch that 30 for30 with El

149:30

Duk when they won the championship and

149:32

they said people in New York were

149:34

throwing toilet paper and the wife was

149:35

grabbing it saying in Cuba this is gold.

149:39

Why are you throwing away toilet paper?

149:40

We have no toilet paper in Cuba. That's

149:43

a mentality. So 50% of those people have

149:45

been brainwashed to the where they, you

149:48

know, every day there's a bullhorn

149:50

buenos.

149:52

You know, when the communists, whatever

149:53

they call each other.

149:54

>> Yeah. Comrades,

149:56

>> we're winning the war. We're getting

149:57

close. You know, what do you mean I'm

149:58

getting closer? I'm down to 118. I was

150:01

walking around at 170.

150:03

>> How are we getting closer to a victory?

150:05

So they're getting sick of that [ __ ]

150:07

They say the bugs that land on you at

150:09

night are [ __ ] just atrocious. these

150:13

bug, you know, they have real [ __ ]

150:15

bugs on that island. Not to mention,

150:17

they all have syphilis.

150:20

Cubans have syphil. I think half my

150:21

fungi toenail is syphilis cuz it smells

150:25

like it. You know what I'm saying? But

150:26

on the on a [ __ ] not jokey thing, the

150:29

Cubans got two weeks left. Two weeks

150:32

from today.

150:33

>> And so you think they're going to

150:34

invade?

150:34

>> Yeah, they're going to invade. Take

150:35

Madur uh take Raul out. And then what do

150:38

you got? They're going to install some

150:40

new.

150:41

>> I remember a couple months ago there was

150:43

a shooting in Cuba of a boat.

150:46

>> You remember that, right? Right, Jamie?

150:48

>> Some people were out there fishing and

150:49

the Cuban Navy shot him.

150:52

>> What?

150:52

>> Like three months ago? Oh, yeah. This is

150:54

>> Why did they shoot?

150:55

>> I don't know. They were investigating

150:56

it.

150:57

>> Cuba hands out weapons to citizens and

150:59

tell them prepare for an invasion. Holy

151:02

[ __ ]

151:04

>> Holy [ __ ] That's June 7th. That's

151:06

Sunday.

151:07

>> Sunday. Hold two weeks away, bro.

151:10

Distributing weapons to its citizens in

151:12

fear of a US invasion. They reportedly

151:14

started handing out weapons to civilians

151:16

as the government urges population to

151:18

prepare for a potential US invasion.

151:20

Reports from South American publication

151:22

Version Final stated uh against the

151:24

backdrop of the deployment of American

151:26

military power near the island, the

151:28

government of Havana began distributing

151:30

weapons to citizens, officially urging

151:32

them to prepare for an imminent foreign

151:34

invasion. What if the citizens use that

151:37

weapon to take over the country,

151:38

>> which they should do? That's what they

151:40

[ __ ] should do. Just call the [ __ ]

151:42

>> crazy risk.

151:44

>> Start handing out guns to people.

151:45

>> Like I said, man,

151:46

>> all a sudden your population is armed

151:48

and you're telling them what to do.

151:50

[sighs]

151:50

>> And they don't have any money. And you

151:52

don't have any money either.

151:54

>> Look, man. When I started doing okay, I

151:58

contacted my sister.

152:01

I offered her a free ticket out of Cuba.

152:03

money. Whatever I got half is yours.

152:06

You're my blood, you know?

152:07

>> Right.

152:08

>> I don't know if I can do that. Okay, why

152:10

don't we do this? Why don't I fly you to

152:12

Jersey? You go to your mother's grave.

152:14

You go see where her house was, her way

152:16

of life, and then I take you back.

152:19

She told me I can never do that cuz I'm

152:21

married to one of Fidel's guys. I don't

152:23

even want to go to the United States.

152:24

>> Oh jeez.

152:26

>> So, she was so brainw.

152:30

Well, you're used to what you're used

152:32

to.

152:33

>> Yeah. And that's what

152:34

>> a big chance of coming to America and

152:36

not knowing where you're going to eat

152:37

and how you gonna live and where you

152:39

gonna get money. Are you going to work?

152:40

Are you going to have a great

152:41

>> They got programs for all those people.

152:43

They got churches. Cuban people have

152:45

churches. They're Catholics.

152:47

>> Is there also a thing where you if you

152:50

leave Cuba, I think there's it's a a

152:53

cleaner path to get to become a United

152:56

States citizen. You're fleeing.

152:58

>> Yes, it's easier. I think so. something

153:00

like that. If you're playing violent

153:01

dictatorship, military dictatorship,

153:05

>> [ __ ] dude.

153:07

>> It's just like

153:09

>> what are they going to do about that?

153:10

>> And then you got to We're talking about

153:12

Vegas. What's going to happen in Vegas

153:13

if Cuba reopens?

153:15

>> What do you mean?

153:16

>> They're going to put gambling back

153:17

there. You know, the Americans going to

153:19

put gambling back there. They're in

153:21

negotiations already with Hers already.

153:24

They're talking

153:25

>> turn into a resort, a location. They're

153:28

not going to rip down the architecture

153:30

that original architectures what makes

153:32

Cuba and the cars and [ __ ] but also

153:35

some something else. But, and I know

153:36

America knows this.

153:38

>> Those oceans are booby trap.

153:41

>> Up to a mile out of Cuba. There's a ton

153:43

of [ __ ] that they have. Booby trap

153:45

mines, all that [ __ ] They planted those

153:48

during the Bay of Pigs invasion.

153:50

>> Look at this.

153:51

>> Cuba. 1957.

153:52

>> 1957. Back when the mob ran it.

153:55

>> Look at everybody dressed impeccably.

153:57

They would go there, people, know

153:59

nothing.

154:00

>> They loved it back then. They loved

154:01

going to Cuba. People would go there,

154:03

live it up,

154:04

>> and sex was free and cheap and you could

154:07

[ __ ] a chicken those days. [laughter]

154:09

You get [ __ ] in the ass by a guy with

154:11

>> must have been amazing,

154:12

>> dog. It was unreal. That's why the whole

154:15

point of Kennedy and all that was for

154:17

them to get Cuba back. The Italians,

154:19

they were making too much money out of

154:21

Cuba. And now they want to start to put

154:23

drugs in there and [ __ ] towards when

154:24

they took it down. Cuba's been [ __ ]

154:27

riddled with [ __ ] for years. Every

154:30

bad luck that they have, they created in

154:32

the 50s and 40s because it was a sex

154:34

heaven. Americans would go down there on

154:37

a Friday and not come back. And you

154:39

know, it was whatever it cost here,

154:41

$8,000 will cost you $80 to get your

154:43

dick sucked for three days and fed

154:45

people rubbing your feet and [ __ ]

154:47

>> Castro Revolution had a major effect on

154:50

Las Vegas. Look at that. Closure of

154:51

Havana Casinos spurred exodus to the

154:54

desert. Wow. Frank M's father.

154:56

Especially people in the

154:58

>> who?

154:58

>> Frank Mir's father.

155:00

>> What do you mean? Frank Mir's father.

155:01

>> Frank Mir's father was a casino. So

155:03

that's how he ended up in Vegas.

155:04

>> Oh. Oh. His name is Miranda.

155:07

>> Connected to

155:08

>> No. So Frank Mir's father was a casino

155:10

dealer in Cuba.

155:11

>> Oh.

155:11

>> When Cuba closed down, he went right to

155:13

Vegas. So a lot of those people went

155:15

right to Vegas.

155:16

>> Wow.

155:17

>> Really interesting [ __ ] That

155:18

>> that is interesting. It makes sense

155:20

because that those are the two places.

155:21

And if you're on the east coast, the

155:23

trip to Cuba is easy.

155:24

>> Was 30 minutes. It's

155:25

>> like going to Florida.

155:26

>> 30 minutes. It was what you and your

155:28

wife would do on the weekend. What do we

155:29

do?

155:29

>> How far is the flight from New York City

155:32

to uh New [clears throat] York City to

155:34

Florida is what, an hour?

155:35

>> Three.

155:36

>> Three hours.

155:37

>> Yeah. Because Trump is down there now.

155:38

So they go a different way now. No.

155:40

>> You can't go straight to Fort Lauderdale

155:42

or Miami. You got to go outside that

155:43

range if he's in

155:44

>> What did it used to be?

155:46

>> Two.

155:47

>> Two. Two hours. So New York City to Cuba

155:51

is only an extra half hour then.

155:52

>> That's it. New York City.

155:53

>> So like less than three hours.

155:55

>> Three hours you'll be on the island.

155:56

>> So it's basically the same as Vegas

155:58

then.

155:58

>> Yeah.

155:58

>> It's the middle.

155:59

>> The middle.

156:02

>> But you have the you're on an island.

156:05

It's a resort.

156:06

>> Nobody knows what's going on.

156:07

>> It's beautiful.

156:08

>> You know I told you that my mother would

156:10

tell me how all those Hollywood stars

156:11

would hide in Cuba, especially Rock

156:14

Hudson.

156:15

>> They would go that's where they would

156:16

suck dick on the weekends.

156:17

>> Oh, Rock Hudson. So all those Hollywood

156:19

people would go to Cuba, lock themselves

156:21

in.

156:23

>> There was no TMZ. There was no press,

156:25

>> right?

156:26

>> You know, these people in Cuba don't

156:27

have a new, you know, how they going to

156:29

get the pay

156:29

>> and everything's run by the mob. So it's

156:31

like just all sin and vice.

156:33

>> Whenever you got a minute, you run, you

156:34

read that a van turn. That book,

156:37

>> what is it called?

156:38

>> It's a van turn. It's a revolution from

156:40

three different places. Union City, New

156:42

Jersey,

156:43

New York City, and Miami. And how Oh,

156:46

no, no, not New York City. Tampa and how

156:48

those three cities

156:51

were like involved in that whole

156:54

>> what do you think is going to happen to

156:55

Cuba if you had a guess?

156:57

>> If I had to guess, come on. I'm already

157:00

seeing dollar signs. If you're a casino

157:02

right now with how bad casinos are doing

157:04

here, you're looking at that right

157:06

there. You're looking

157:07

>> Nocturn.

157:09

>> How the mob own how the mob owned Cuna

157:12

Cuba and then lost it to the revolution.

157:14

>> Yeah. Excellent book. Excellent. And so

157:16

that was Kennedy trying to get rid of

157:18

the mob. That's why they

157:20

>> when the mob put Listen,

157:23

>> Kennedy's father went to Chicago and he

157:26

talked to those people. They had to

157:28

pull. If you live in Chicago or where

157:29

else you win the primary, I don't know

157:32

how it works, Joe. I'm not a political

157:33

guy.

157:33

>> Well, they definitely helped Kennedy get

157:35

into office.

157:35

>> They helped Kevin get into office.

157:37

>> But then when he got into office,

157:38

>> he didn't help him get Fidel back. Then

157:40

the brother double timed him and then

157:42

they started shooting. And I don't I

157:44

don't know who shot Kennedy's. I'm just

157:45

saying this.

157:46

>> Well, the mob definitely didn't like

157:47

him. They were very upset.

157:48

>> They cut into their pocket

157:49

>> and he helped the mob helped him get

157:51

into office in the first place,

157:53

>> right?

157:53

>> And then once he got in, they started

157:55

prosecuting people and like, hey,

157:57

>> then he [ __ ] them with the the Bay of

157:59

Pigs

158:00

>> when he pulled off air support at the

158:02

last.

158:03

>> He didn't know that they were going to

158:05

do this and then when they told him

158:06

about it, he denied air support and air

158:09

support was critical to the success of

158:11

the mission.

158:12

>> Absolutely. and uh Operation Mongoose,

158:15

Robert Kennedy spearheaded his secret

158:17

government project to topple the Cuban

158:19

communist regime, working parallel to

158:22

the CIA's mob assisted efforts.

158:26

Um, but this is after the revolution,

158:28

right? This was when Fidel was running

158:31

Cuba,

158:32

>> right?

158:33

>> Right.

158:33

>> They were trying everything they do to

158:34

kill [ __ ] Fidel. They were doing

158:36

everything to see.

158:37

>> But this is after So what spurred the

158:40

Cuban takeover of of uh the the

158:43

military's taken over of Cuba. Mob

158:45

bosses like Sam Gianana and Santo

158:48

Trafocante were recruited to help

158:50

eliminate Castro using methods like

158:52

poison pills. Mafia wanted Castro gone

158:54

so they could reopen their multi-million

158:56

dollar Cuban operations. Wow.

158:59

>> That's all it was. It was money.

159:00

>> Wow.

159:01

>> Big money. Untraceable.

159:02

>> I can imagine.

159:03

>> Unfound. Untraceable. Nothing. Nothing.

159:06

>> And you're over there living the life.

159:08

>> Nobody knows nothing. My Lansky eating

159:10

[ __ ] Cuban food every day.

159:11

>> They probably had it all set up. It was

159:13

nice. And then the re

159:14

>> kosher Cuban food every day. [ __ ] my

159:17

>> So the what what did the people think?

159:20

The people think that these mob

159:21

[ __ ] they've taken over our

159:23

country. Let's let's let Castro come in

159:27

and we'll be socialists and everything

159:29

will be great.

159:30

>> Or did they just get taken over?

159:31

>> They got taken. What happened was Castro

159:33

went in there, Batista was horrible.

159:36

Batista was [ __ ] no better than

159:38

Castro.

159:40

So when Castro took over, he was to take

159:42

over Batista and make Cuba blah blah

159:44

blah. But in the conglomeration, he

159:47

became a communist somewhere along the

159:49

line. And then when he took over Cuba,

159:51

that's when he shut the casinos down.

159:53

>> He destroyed the [ __ ] casinos, you

159:55

know.

159:56

>> And then [clears throat] the Italians

159:58

got mad. They all came back and then

160:00

they were just they thought it was going

160:01

to be temporary

160:03

like this is going to be temporary.

160:05

We'll clean over this. So for years

160:07

Italians were just watching the news

160:09

waiting for somebody to kill [ __ ]

160:11

Castro.

160:13

It was the Italians.

160:15

>> And then when they thought that the

160:16

United States was going to go in there

160:17

and invade like, oh good, we're all set.

160:20

>> I wish there was more film from those

160:22

days so people could see like my mother

160:24

explained things to me. I wish she was

160:25

still alive because I could have like

160:27

she said the Italian food was different

160:29

in Cuba. She goes first off the pizzas

160:32

had lobster on them and shrimp already

160:34

back then in the 50s.

160:35

>> Wow.

160:36

>> They were making cuz she didn't like the

160:37

pizza in the United States. She goes not

160:39

the same. They put fresh shrimp from the

160:41

[ __ ] ocean,

160:43

>> lobster, [ __ ] all these other things.

160:45

They got these pies now in New York. I'm

160:47

scared to try them. I can't. They put

160:49

calamari on the pizza. How fat can you

160:52

get?

160:52

>> [laughter]

160:52

>> How [ __ ] fat do you want to be? You

160:55

go to these pizza place in Jersey, dog.

160:57

It's like ziti. A pound of ziti on a

161:00

slice of pizza.

161:01

>> There's pizza places in [clears throat]

161:02

Jersey that have just gone off. And the

161:04

sandwich places in Jersey.

161:06

>> Oh, your boy your boy is going off. No.

161:08

>> Oh, Giovani. But that's that's White

161:10

Plains. White Plains. That's phenomenal.

161:13

>> I've been doing nothing like Italian

161:15

delies on the East Coast. There's

161:17

nothing like it.

161:17

>> That smell like that cheese when you

161:19

walk in and the [ __ ] olives and [ __ ]

161:21

Oh, it's insane.

161:22

>> Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

161:24

>> There's too much pizza. Like it just too

161:26

much.

161:27

>> You know, it's funny. When I moved down,

161:29

like I'm scared to gain weight. The

161:30

pizza. I eat one slice a week. Maybe

161:34

maybe

161:36

since I had the knee surgery, I've been

161:38

doing the podcast at the house. So, I've

161:40

been ordering pizza from this one place

161:42

and my buddies go crazy. [snorts] That's

161:44

the best pizza we've ever had. It's

161:45

thin, sweet red sauce.

161:47

>> Oh yeah.

161:48

>> Extra cheese. You burn it. It's [ __ ]

161:50

thin. Oh my god. And the sweet red

161:52

sauce. God,

161:53

>> they know how to make pizza on the East

161:55

Coast. And they try out here. They do a

161:57

pretty good job out here, but it's just

161:59

not the same.

161:59

>> It's missing something. They don't.

162:01

>> Same as the sandwiches. There's some

162:02

good Italian sandwiches out here.

162:04

They're pretty good, but they can't [ __ ]

162:06

with like Giovani's place.

162:09

>> Bro, Giovani sent me two shipments that

162:11

were

162:12

>> He's the best.

162:12

>> I had to give half of it away. I'm like,

162:15

>> he sends you so much

162:16

>> [ __ ] salamis and [ __ ] dried. Oh,

162:19

>> the cheese is incredible, right?

162:20

>> Oh, and the cookies is [ __ ] cookies

162:23

to die for, bro.

162:24

>> Yeah.

162:25

>> You know, and that's everywhere. Like I

162:26

just stop

162:28

>> Yeah.

162:28

>> [ __ ] around like

162:30

>> Well, when I go to the east coast, I

162:31

just assume terrible.

162:32

>> I got to take you to this place.

162:34

>> Which place? You took me to Elito. That

162:36

was phenomenal.

162:38

>> Now is Kovo Steakhouse.

162:40

Whatever. But

162:41

>> it's a steakhouse now.

162:42

>> Yeah.

162:42

>> Is it great?

162:44

>> They [ __ ] me up a couple weeks ago. I

162:45

went in there five to nine. I've been

162:47

there three weeks in a row with big

162:49

party and then my wife wants and then a

162:51

friend wants. I go in there when they

162:52

have 5 to 9 like let me get a 14 ounce

162:55

with a [ __ ] beer and they're like

162:57

we're closed.

163:00

Ain't nobody in here. You can't make

163:02

another steak. No, we're closed. It's

163:04

not even 9:00.

163:06

No reason to go back.

163:09

>> That's a bummer.

163:09

>> You just I was

163:10

>> That's people want to go home.

163:11

>> Yeah. I don't give a [ __ ] It's a steak.

163:13

You guys are There's nobody in here.

163:15

Right.

163:15

>> The bar is cute in there.

163:17

>> Nobody's ever in there. They got a male

163:19

bartender. They got a blonde with big

163:20

tits. You see this place [laughter]

163:21

packed the [ __ ] up. You got a little

163:23

Spanish guy that's a great guy.

163:26

>> But but I go to this place now. They had

163:29

on the special three weeks ago. You

163:31

ready?

163:33

>> Stuff shells with lobster meat.

163:36

>> Out of the court inside

163:38

>> and he gives you five of them in a tray.

163:40

Oh sh

163:42

>> What's this place called? Asteria.

163:45

>> Where's it at?

163:45

>> Mar, bro.

163:47

>> This is my spot.

163:48

>> Yeah.

163:48

>> I go there because the dude will do

163:50

whatever I ask him to do. Like he he has

163:52

a menu, but then he'll go, "Joey, have

163:55

you tasted my Italian fried rice?"

163:58

You're like, "What are you talking about

163:59

Italian fried rice?" And he makes risoto

164:00

with lobster and shrimp or fried rice.

164:03

[laughter]

164:04

So he's going to add it. He's got a new

164:06

restaurant opening. So he lets me sample

164:07

everything. He makes a cheese steak to

164:11

die for with the bread with the seeds on

164:13

it.

164:14

>> Oh yeah.

164:14

>> The simolina bread.

164:16

>> Yeah. [sighs]

164:18

>> Oh my god.

164:20

>> Asteria. There it is. Oh, that looks

164:23

good. Yeah. There's nothing like East

164:25

Coast Italian food. Nothing even

164:27

compares.

164:29

>> No. Steve and Angelo in there, bro. They

164:31

don't [ __ ] around.

164:32

>> All right, let's wrap this [ __ ] up,

164:33

>> bro. Thank you for having me.

164:35

>> My pleasure. I love you. Thursday. I'm

164:37

around all week.

164:38

>> All right. All right.

164:38

>> But I'm in Atlantic City 7th and 8th at

164:40

Oceanceans Casino. White People Casino.

164:43

>> July 7th and 8th.

164:44

>> No, August.

164:45

>> August 7th and 8th. Okay.

164:47

>> Chicago got announced November 5th.

164:49

>> Uh what's the website for people to go

164:51

to find out details?

164:52

>> I got no [ __ ] website.

164:54

>> Joey Diaz.com or

164:55

>> is that real?

164:56

>> I don't know anymore. [laughter]

164:58

>> All right. Well, they'll find you.

164:59

They'll find you. So, one more time,

165:01

where's the casino?

165:02

>> Uh Oceans Casino in Atlantic City, New

165:04

Jersey. The seventh and eighth.

165:06

Tremendous. Beautiful. All right.

165:07

>> I think the governor's coming.

165:09

>> The governor.

165:10

>> Yeah, Mikey Cheryl. I don't even like

165:12

her, but I do like Mikey Cheryl.

165:14

[laughter]

165:14

I do like Mikey Cheryl cuz she's a

165:16

Democrat. You're not supposed to like

165:17

him. But it was funny. I went to a

165:18

restaurant. Some guys like, "Hey, man.

165:20

Life would have been so much better with

165:22

Jack Chidarel." I go, I know, but he

165:24

lost by 400,000 [ __ ] votes. He tried

165:27

to a Republican in Jersey. That's never

165:28

going to [ __ ] work. They've been

165:30

Democrats since Jesus showed up. So

165:34

400,000 votes, bro.

165:35

>> That's a lot. I'd be in my house with

165:37

the windows [ __ ] like sunny black and

165:39

Donnie Brasco with the windows the

165:40

shades drawn for a year. 400,000 [ __ ]

165:44

>> See that podcast I did with Joe Pone?

165:45

>> Yes. Very good. He was very good on it.

165:48

>> He was amazing.

165:48

>> He's a good dude, too. He's a good

165:50

[ __ ] savage.

165:51

>> What a crazy life. The real Donnie Bras.

165:54

I mean, really [ __ ] lived like that.

165:56

>> And he infiltrated the bananas.

165:58

>> Yeah. Deep.

165:59

>> They never recovered from that.

166:01

>> They even loved him after he [ __ ]

166:03

came out and they found out he was a

166:04

cop. They're like, "Oh, you were better

166:06

than me." That's like one of the guys

166:08

said that to him. "Hey, you you won. You

166:11

beat me." Wow. Nuts.

166:14

>> All right.

166:14

>> I love you, brother. Thank you very

166:16

much, man.

166:16

>> We're going to have lunch tonight. All

166:17

right. Bye, everybody.

166:24

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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan and guest Joey Diaz share stories about their past experiences with drugs, medical procedures, and the wild world of comedy. They discuss the realities of life, gambling, and the changing landscape of their careers over the years.

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