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Companies like Figma, HubSpot, and
Dualingo are all down more than 65%. And
the entire SASbased industry has lost
more than $300 billion in market cap
recently. And the most common rhetoric
out there is that AI is to blame for
this. If you look at different sectors
outside of SAS, like auto manufacturing
and credit services, they tend to trade
in low PE ratio as opposed to software.
For example, auto manufacturers like
Ford will easily trade on multiples like
8 to 12p, while software companies like
Dualingo can go up to 50 or even 200 PE
ratios because well, most software
companies actually don't make money in
the first place. And unlike highly
cyclical industries that depend on
supply chain, inflation, supply and
demand, and policies, SASbased companies
have always been easier in valuation
because the underlying math to calculate
the annual recurring revenue is just
subscription multiples. And not only
that, unlike auto industries, software
companies always had room to grow in
comparison. But despite all these facts,
Dualingo still lost 68% of their market
cap in just 6 months alone. This kind of
progression is leading some people to go
as far as saying that SAS is dead and AI
killed SAS through and through. But why?
How is AI exactly impacting this?
Welcome to Kale Bryce Code where every
second counts. Quick shout out to
OnSpace. More on them later. When we
look at SAS, it's the highest level of
abstraction where users pay monthly or
yearly fees to use services provided by
software. And unlike other offerings
like on-prem where you have to buy your
own equipment, networking server and
databases, SAS allows you to just log
into Dropbox or Google Drive to store
documents without setting up the
database or even log into HubSpot or
Salesforce to manage CRM without having
to worry about what's underneath it. But
how did AI exactly change this where
SASbased companies are losing a large
share in market cap? If you look at the
progression of AI like MCP back in
November 2024, A2A or agent to agent in
April 2025 and more recently skills in
October 2025. What we are seeing here is
not a replacement of applications but
rather an abstraction on top of
application by connecting these systems
by leveraging MCP connections using best
practices written in skills. And while
the common rhetoric is that AI just
killed software, in reality, we haven't
really seen AI replace Slack or AI
replace HubSpot, Salesforce, Dualingo,
Docu Sign, all the other applications
that we use on a daily basis. In fact,
agents are actually orchestrating on top
of solid build applications that's
already been built. So while AI hasn't
really replaced software as we know,
what this new level of abstraction is
forcing is when it comes down to
pricing. SAS companies typically charge
people by per user or per seat. For
example, if we go to Salesforce, their
pricing plan goes from free to $100 per
user per month. And this kind of pricing
model allowed investors to project the
growth by using ARR as a metric. But as
AI agents took on the role of
interacting with the applications where
before we had to learn the application
by clicking through websites and
navigating the applications, now agents
are essentially absorbing this entire
interactions away from us to agents.
Which means you could have one agent
with a single user subscription but now
shared across 10 people outside of the
system rather than having 10 different
users having their own subscription. And
the result of all of this is
commoditization of the application
layer. Since what used to be the remote
or competitive edge by providing an
intuitive application to users is now
becoming less relevant since agents can
connect to applications through MTP and
use their skills that explain the best
practices around how to actually
interact with the application. And this
kind of rotation is not only forcing
SASbased companies to switch from per
user pricing model to usage based
pricing model. And now what used to be
predictable valuation based on user
growth measured in ARR is starting to be
valued as a commodity based on usage or
supply and demand of agentic use cases.
And this all brings us to the next point
which is how the broad market is
changing because of this. Quick shout
out to OnSpace.ai. OnSpace is a platform
that lets you build mobile apps by
talking with its AI chats like this
where you can go from idea to publishing
on app store with a single click. Here
I'm sending a prompt called GPU cost
calculator where I can calculate the
projected cost of GPU usage. Once I have
the basic app generated, I asked the
follow-up question to fix the UI and UX
to be more friendly like this. After
that, I asked Onspace to add a login
screen and it generated a login screen
like this where I can sign up with an
email code being sent so I can apply
them so that I can access the app. Once
I'm happy with the app, OnSpace allows
me to publish it on the app store for
Apple like this. You can also download
the codebase directly, add payments and
databases on the app itself. OnSpace
also has a vibrant tutorials on their
YouTube channel that helps you with
anything from writing better prompts to
building a more secure and managing data
throughout the app. They also have great
support from AI and human support in one
day. I'll leave a link in the
description below. According to Goldman
Sachs projection, the total addressable
market for agents is expected to grow
above $50 billion while traditional SAS
is set to decline and 2026 is where we
start to see a divergence between the
two. And consequently, investment from
venture capitals is moving away from
traditional software products into
agents. That's not to say traditional
software companies aren't adopting AI
into their existing platform. According
to Deoid survey, more than half of the
companies are expected to spend up to
50% of their budget into AI automation.
In other words, instead of losing their
business to agents, a lot of companies
are choosing to also build their own
agents directly in their application. so
that users are inclined to continue user
service on their platform instead which
is seen in Salesforce agent force
service now now assist HubSpot also has
their own agent and well basically every
software company now offers agents that
know how to navigate their own
application out of the box. So what used
to be 50 to 100 PE ratios that investors
were willing to spend up to is now
reduced because investors are no longer
sure how much longer these companies are
viable beyond five or even 10 years down
the line as pricing models changes with
AI. And if you pair that with the fact
that last June around 10% of the
websites in the world were viodated
using lovable which goes to show that at
least in the application side how easy
it is to replicate existing
applications. That's not to say vioded
software will replace software since
well-written software requires more than
just pure vibe coding. But what it does
reveal is that SASbased companies are in
the position to change how they price
and how fast they need to innovate given
the pace of innovation that AI brings.
What do you think? Do you agree with AI
and agents complementing applications or
do you think that agents will replace
applications entirely?
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The video discusses the significant market cap losses experienced by SAS-based companies, with some attributing the decline to AI. However, the speaker argues that AI is not replacing SAS applications but rather creating a new layer of abstraction. This abstraction, driven by AI agents, is commoditizing the application layer by enabling one agent to perform tasks previously requiring multiple user subscriptions. This shift is forcing SAS companies to move from per-user pricing to usage-based models, impacting their traditional valuation metrics based on ARR. The speaker highlights that while traditional SAS valuations are declining, the market for AI agents is projected to grow significantly. Many traditional software companies are integrating AI agents into their platforms to retain users, rather than being replaced. The rapid pace of AI innovation is pushing SAS companies to re-evaluate their pricing strategies and accelerate their own innovation.
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