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Companies like Figma, HubSpot, and

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Dualingo are all down more than 65%. And

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the entire SASbased industry has lost

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more than $300 billion in market cap

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recently. And the most common rhetoric

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out there is that AI is to blame for

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this. If you look at different sectors

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outside of SAS, like auto manufacturing

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and credit services, they tend to trade

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in low PE ratio as opposed to software.

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For example, auto manufacturers like

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Ford will easily trade on multiples like

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8 to 12p, while software companies like

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Dualingo can go up to 50 or even 200 PE

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ratios because well, most software

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companies actually don't make money in

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the first place. And unlike highly

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cyclical industries that depend on

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supply chain, inflation, supply and

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demand, and policies, SASbased companies

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have always been easier in valuation

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because the underlying math to calculate

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the annual recurring revenue is just

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subscription multiples. And not only

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that, unlike auto industries, software

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companies always had room to grow in

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comparison. But despite all these facts,

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Dualingo still lost 68% of their market

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cap in just 6 months alone. This kind of

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progression is leading some people to go

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as far as saying that SAS is dead and AI

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killed SAS through and through. But why?

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How is AI exactly impacting this?

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Welcome to Kale Bryce Code where every

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second counts. Quick shout out to

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OnSpace. More on them later. When we

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look at SAS, it's the highest level of

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abstraction where users pay monthly or

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yearly fees to use services provided by

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software. And unlike other offerings

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like on-prem where you have to buy your

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own equipment, networking server and

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databases, SAS allows you to just log

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into Dropbox or Google Drive to store

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documents without setting up the

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database or even log into HubSpot or

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Salesforce to manage CRM without having

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to worry about what's underneath it. But

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how did AI exactly change this where

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SASbased companies are losing a large

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share in market cap? If you look at the

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progression of AI like MCP back in

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November 2024, A2A or agent to agent in

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April 2025 and more recently skills in

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October 2025. What we are seeing here is

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not a replacement of applications but

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rather an abstraction on top of

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application by connecting these systems

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by leveraging MCP connections using best

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practices written in skills. And while

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the common rhetoric is that AI just

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killed software, in reality, we haven't

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really seen AI replace Slack or AI

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replace HubSpot, Salesforce, Dualingo,

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Docu Sign, all the other applications

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that we use on a daily basis. In fact,

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agents are actually orchestrating on top

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of solid build applications that's

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already been built. So while AI hasn't

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really replaced software as we know,

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what this new level of abstraction is

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forcing is when it comes down to

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pricing. SAS companies typically charge

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people by per user or per seat. For

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example, if we go to Salesforce, their

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pricing plan goes from free to $100 per

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user per month. And this kind of pricing

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model allowed investors to project the

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growth by using ARR as a metric. But as

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AI agents took on the role of

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interacting with the applications where

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before we had to learn the application

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by clicking through websites and

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navigating the applications, now agents

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are essentially absorbing this entire

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interactions away from us to agents.

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Which means you could have one agent

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with a single user subscription but now

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shared across 10 people outside of the

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system rather than having 10 different

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users having their own subscription. And

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the result of all of this is

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commoditization of the application

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layer. Since what used to be the remote

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or competitive edge by providing an

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intuitive application to users is now

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becoming less relevant since agents can

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connect to applications through MTP and

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use their skills that explain the best

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practices around how to actually

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interact with the application. And this

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kind of rotation is not only forcing

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SASbased companies to switch from per

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user pricing model to usage based

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pricing model. And now what used to be

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predictable valuation based on user

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growth measured in ARR is starting to be

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valued as a commodity based on usage or

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supply and demand of agentic use cases.

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And this all brings us to the next point

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which is how the broad market is

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changing because of this. Quick shout

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out to OnSpace.ai. OnSpace is a platform

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that lets you build mobile apps by

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talking with its AI chats like this

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where you can go from idea to publishing

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on app store with a single click. Here

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I'm sending a prompt called GPU cost

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calculator where I can calculate the

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projected cost of GPU usage. Once I have

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the basic app generated, I asked the

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follow-up question to fix the UI and UX

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to be more friendly like this. After

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that, I asked Onspace to add a login

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screen and it generated a login screen

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like this where I can sign up with an

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email code being sent so I can apply

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them so that I can access the app. Once

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I'm happy with the app, OnSpace allows

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me to publish it on the app store for

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Apple like this. You can also download

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the codebase directly, add payments and

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databases on the app itself. OnSpace

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also has a vibrant tutorials on their

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YouTube channel that helps you with

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anything from writing better prompts to

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building a more secure and managing data

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throughout the app. They also have great

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support from AI and human support in one

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day. I'll leave a link in the

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description below. According to Goldman

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Sachs projection, the total addressable

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market for agents is expected to grow

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above $50 billion while traditional SAS

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is set to decline and 2026 is where we

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start to see a divergence between the

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two. And consequently, investment from

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venture capitals is moving away from

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traditional software products into

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agents. That's not to say traditional

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software companies aren't adopting AI

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into their existing platform. According

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to Deoid survey, more than half of the

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companies are expected to spend up to

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50% of their budget into AI automation.

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In other words, instead of losing their

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business to agents, a lot of companies

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are choosing to also build their own

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agents directly in their application. so

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that users are inclined to continue user

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service on their platform instead which

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is seen in Salesforce agent force

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service now now assist HubSpot also has

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their own agent and well basically every

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software company now offers agents that

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know how to navigate their own

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application out of the box. So what used

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to be 50 to 100 PE ratios that investors

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were willing to spend up to is now

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reduced because investors are no longer

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sure how much longer these companies are

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viable beyond five or even 10 years down

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the line as pricing models changes with

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AI. And if you pair that with the fact

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that last June around 10% of the

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websites in the world were viodated

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using lovable which goes to show that at

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least in the application side how easy

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it is to replicate existing

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applications. That's not to say vioded

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software will replace software since

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well-written software requires more than

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just pure vibe coding. But what it does

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reveal is that SASbased companies are in

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the position to change how they price

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and how fast they need to innovate given

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the pace of innovation that AI brings.

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What do you think? Do you agree with AI

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and agents complementing applications or

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do you think that agents will replace

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applications entirely?

Interactive Summary

The video discusses the significant market cap losses experienced by SAS-based companies, with some attributing the decline to AI. However, the speaker argues that AI is not replacing SAS applications but rather creating a new layer of abstraction. This abstraction, driven by AI agents, is commoditizing the application layer by enabling one agent to perform tasks previously requiring multiple user subscriptions. This shift is forcing SAS companies to move from per-user pricing to usage-based models, impacting their traditional valuation metrics based on ARR. The speaker highlights that while traditional SAS valuations are declining, the market for AI agents is projected to grow significantly. Many traditional software companies are integrating AI agents into their platforms to retain users, rather than being replaced. The rapid pace of AI innovation is pushing SAS companies to re-evaluate their pricing strategies and accelerate their own innovation.

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