DHH: how to escape the "Apple bubble"
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I think the beautiful realization these
days is that you're allowed more than
one computer.
You don't have to have a single machine.
And in fact, this is what the whole open
claw phenomenon has spurred on that a
bunch of people just went out and bought
a Mac Mini because they specifically
wanted to run their claw on that Mac
Mini. You could do the same thing as a
Linux developer. That's certainly what I
do. I have more computers than I care to
count. Some of them are still Macs. It's
wild because this there's I think
there's a mental block. I used to buy or
get through my my
my company or or buy for myself every
two or three years a new laptop. And I
just look back. I have a Mac like a
MacBook Air
that is in 2020, that's 6 years ago. And
it works great. Yes. And I walked into
the Mac store the other day and I
thought, huh, there's this new computer
like oh no I
immediately my first thought was I
shouldn't get it because it works.
Right.
>> But when I did the maths of how much
this thing costs and you know like my
hourly rate as as a dev, it's such a
no-brainer. And there's still this
mental block and I was thinking of you
know trying out Windows or or Linux and
I think there's a mental mental but I'm
not sure if I'm alone with this but I'm
not used to my laptop not being
utilized. I think I've been conditioned
for this for so long. So maybe it's
something we need to let go a little
bit. We do need to let go of that. In
many ways, it's an I'm not just going to
push it to the point for the comedic
effect but it's a poverty mindset. It's
a poverty mindset to think I am only
allotted the one CPU and that's all I'm
allowed to use which is of course
nonsense because if you are developers
certainly one working with the web,
you're already using a million CPUs. All
these computers are already working for
you whether you're in chat GPT on the
web or you're running some other web
app. Like that's not magic. That's
computers. And you have a slice of that
so you are allowed more than one
computer in the home. The other thing I
find is computers are just fun and you
should have a variety of them. If you
care about them. Like I like watches and
if I thought that I was only permitted a
single watch, that hobby would be a
little boring. You could find the
perfect watch and you could be happy
with that watch but it's a little more
fun if you're allowed a degree of
variety. And I think
that's what I actually had to escape the
Apple walled garden to realize because
I'd been inside the Apple
bubble for so long that I'd kind of
forgotten that different kinds of
computers existed that I could own and
use. So when 2 years ago or so,
the final straw finally broke the
camel's back on my relationship with
Apple, it was just like the doors had
been opened to a much broader world. And
at first the sun was a little bright
like I was stepping out of some dungeon
and I realized, oh my gosh, there's all
these different things. And just as a
fan of technology to realize for
example, you can have a big screen that
runs at 240 hertz. Like that technology
does not exist in the Mac world. Apple
does not offer a product that has 240
hertz. So if you like competitive
gaming, seeing that sort of for the
first time is a little startling because
you are under this or I was certainly
under this illusion that I well Apple,
if they don't have it right now, they'll
eventually get to it and if they don't
get to it, it's probably not worth
having at all. Which really is a very
deprived mindset where you fall in love
with the cave you're in. That's not to
say that Apple doesn't make cool stuff.
Like I loved the announcement they did
with the MacBook Neo.
I love when companies are pushing
certain angles to the point that all
their competitors get a little worried.
And the Neo to me, this really cheap Mac
that's still quite good is a wonderful
entrant into the party.
By the same token, I've been so excited
about the comeback of Intel that
Gelsinger's 5-year plan to get to 18A,
their new production node just so that
they could produce a competitive chip
with what Apple is doing with Panther
Lake is really inspiring to see. And
it's actually a bit sad I find that when
I talk about this on X,
the partisanship is so close to the
surface that if you like Apple products,
it's almost like you have to hate a PC.
You have to poo-poo on Panther Lake for
example, even though it's a major
achievement for a proud American
institution like Apple. They built the
chips in Arizona. Like we should all be
cheering for the success of what they've
accomplished regardless of whether we're
going to run it or not. But it's funny
because it's also one of those things
like the the bike shed where when the
stakes are the lowest, we argue the most
fierce. And the stakes are very low when
you have an Apple computer and you don't
want to think about whether there's a
better alternative for you or even other
people and then you just go like, let me
just close my eyes and say
Apple can't be beat. Again, I say that
as someone who has tremendous respect
for what that company has built even if
I don't have so much respect for how
they conduct themselves as a business
today when it comes to gatekeeping and
the app stores and all the other
nonsense. But just as a technical
achievement, I was the biggest
cheerleader for the M chips because they
completely reset the board of what was
possible in a mobile computer. Yep. And
we should all be excited about that. If
you love computers, you should love
CPUs. You should love CPU progress. I
find the same thing now with Qualcomm.
For some reason, again, an American
company doing amazing things powering
the bulk of computers in the world if
you just count the fact that Android is
the dominant It is. platform on mobile
computers, on pocket computers,
then why are we not excited about that?
Again, what? Because you see some petty
rivalry with your favorite brand? That
just seems stupid to me. And the X 2
Elite is another chip that's caught up
even more actually than Panther Lake is
on an ARM architecture with Apple's
offerings. And shouldn't we be excited?
Even if you don't want any of the stuff,
you should love competition because
competition makes things better and
cheaper. So Apple feeling a little bit
of a heat that the rest of the industry
after five meager years finally starts
giving them some challenge is something
we should all celebrate. But we don't. A
lot of us don't. A lot of people don't.
I try to do. I try to
have some metacognition going whenever I
have a reaction to something one way or
the other and go like, is that just
because it's my team doing this or is it
because I genuinely dislike what's going
on? And then often times I'll catch
myself in the same kind of partisanship
that's playing out here and go, you know
what?
No. I am not going to fall into that
trap.
I'm going to revert to my base model
here. My base model is I love computers.
I love playing with computers. I love
having fun with computers. I love being
productive with computers. I love
wasting time on computers. Just sitting
in front of that deliciously
creamy thocky mechanical keyboard in the
morning
is a joy. And we should be eternally
grateful that this is still a thing
we're able to do.
Which may come to an end in a few years
that like that's just not the form
factor anymore. We look at these
pictures of old monkeys typing at the
typewriter and go like, remember when
computing used to be like that? I'm
going to enjoy every last moment we have
of it. One thing that we might be just
you know it's popular to hate on other
computers that you don't use because we
don't use them. So what are some
computers that you found laptops or or
other other ones that you like that you
know just give us some ideas like if if
if you want to go around shopping either
for something for gaming to have fun to
see to see that it's not just the
console that you can do it or for work?
The computers I've had a lot of fun with
recently has been laptops. When I first
got into Linux, I had a Framework Laptop
13. It's great machine.
>> where you can assemble it, right?
>> assemble it. You actually have to
assemble it. Most of the offerings you
buy is a GUI package and you have to put
it together yourself. So it's a little
bit like a Lego kit. It only takes about
5 minutes but there's a sense of
ownership and a sense of IKEA effect.
Did you like this computer a little more
because you put it together yourself?
And I think it's still a great machine
but it's not the only great machine that
you can run Linux on. And in the last
few months, I've tried a bunch. And
partly because I've been really excited
about some new technology. One of those
things which is actually not that new
but again, to a person who'd been using
first Macs for a long time and then that
Framework computer for a long time, all
have either IPS or microLED panels,
seeing an OLED screen for the first time
to me was astounding. I did not even
realize that colors for games could look
that good. Which is a little weird
because I have an OLED TV. And OLED TVs
look great but you sit quite far from
them.
The
vivid nature of sitting, I don't know,
30 centimeters from a OLED display and
playing Fortnite or playing Arc Raiders
or playing one of these other games.
Actually, I would call out Fortnite
here. I've been a mega fan of Fortnite
for a long time. I've played literally
hundreds of hours with my kids squads
but now I even just play by myself even
without the kids. It's just such a vivid
game. It is such a beautiful test case
for OLED. So I got first the ASUS
Zephyrus G14 which is a beautiful laptop
in all the ways that
the Framework feels more like a home
built shed which is adorable, right?
Like I put this shed together myself.
It's really nice. I can appreciate it.
Great machine especially for
productivity. I like the 3.2 aspect
ratio and all that stuff just for code.
But when it comes to games, it's not the
greatest machine. It's not meant for
that. They have another offering, not
the biggest fan of the 16 they have, but
for that Zephyrus, with that OLED
display, with that beautiful case, with
that sort of gamer aesthetic without
going overboard, which is a very fine
line. There's a lot of gaming machines
where all the lights are just constantly
pulsating and you're like, "Am I
tripping or is this just a machine?"
But,
ASUS really have found a nice way to tow
that line. They have this uh they're
called the slash on the back of it,
which is this LED strip that you can
program to have different patterns. I'm
like, "That's pretty cool." And then it
does have the LED
or RGB keyboard backlighting, which you
can sync with other things. So, I
actually built it in after I got that
machine,
I built it into Amachi. Then when you
change your theme, the keyboard
backlighting will change with it. So,
you change to Tokyo night and it's a
nice sort of purple background. You take
change to Nord and it's a light, cool,
gray and blue.
So, that's been a lot of fun. It's been
a great machine. And then just very
recently, I had the good um
pleasure of uh bothering Michael Dell
because I got connected with him when we
did our big cloud exit a few years ago.
We've been a Dell shop on the server
side for you bought Dell servers. Yes.
And then when we moved out of the cloud,
we bought like two pallets worth of Dell
servers to run everything ourselves. And
I was quite public about our cloud exit
and it got a lot of attention at the
time and
not surprisingly, Michael Dell also
thought that was a great idea to buy a
bunch of servers and stick them in your
data center. So, we struck up a
conversation and now that I saw their
latest line of laptops, the XPS, with
those Panther Lake chips, with the new
tandem OLED screen technology, I just
completely shamelessly reached out on an
old conversation from back at the cloud
exit thing like, "Hey Michael,
could you send me one? Could I get one?
I really want to try this new setup
because I'm excited about that Intel
chip as we talked about, but also just
really excited about the tandem OLED
screens given the fact I'd had that
great experience with the ASUS. So,
that's been the machine I've been
running for the last couple of weeks.
It's still a pre-production unit. Not
all the compatibility's there, but it's
also fun to be part of that process. In
a way I could never dream of having a
relationship like that with Apple.
Apple,
to all their credit, is very much the
ivory tower, right? Like they're locked
in there. They don't really collaborate
with others in this way. They're just
themselves. And that's great. That's
wonderful we have that
gleaming tower on the hill over there. I
wish their behavior in other matters
would be a little more admirable and we
could, without reservation, just have
admiration for that customer for that
company. Now it has quite a lot of
asterisks next to it.
But either way,
with Dell, they just immediately like,
"Hey, yeah. Here's Here's a machine.
Here's an engineer who's currently
working on Linux compatibility. Do you
want to help?" And
of course I want to help. So, I'm
instantly diving in. How do we diagnose
this? How do we make it work with the
Linux kernel? What do we have to do to
get all the different things working
just right? This is still frontier stuff
in terms of driver compatibility and so
forth. It's just been a blast. And then
the machine is just amazing. It's a
16-in that XPS that weighs 1.6 kilos. No
way. It feels like it's funny because I
still have a MacBook Pro 16 in as well,
which is well over 2 kilos. You hold
these two things next to each other and
you get this appreciation for weight.
That is quite funny because you think in
your head like, "400 g, how much is
that? 500 g, 600 g." It's like, "That's
not a big deal. This is a computer." Uh
no, it's a big deal. The difference
between that it just feels like they're
different categories of devices.
And it's funny to me because um this is
what Jonathan Ive was always all about.
He was about thinness, he was about
lightness.
And he probably pushed it a little too
far.
That
butterfly keyboard debacle that plagued
the MacBooks for literally 5 years with
an incredible failure rate that came out
of that was a
reflection of that maniacal
optimization. Can we shave a millimeter?
And in technical circles, that has been
universally panned, right? Like, "Just
give me something that's twice as heavy
and twice as fat if you can give me a
bigger battery or a bigger CPU."
Shut up, nerd. Like there are other
things that matter. And I say that to
myself as much as anyone, right? Because
I could hear myself say that like, "Why
did you put in such a
crappy keyboard
to just shave off 2 mm?"
And you realize it's actually the wrong
question to pose. The right question is,
"No, no. Please keep shaving off every
millimeter because it really does
matter. Every 100 g really does matter.
But, do it while you keep a functional
keyboard, please. Thank you." XPS with
Dell's new tech you're seeing much
closer to that. I still don't 100% love
that keyboard. It's It's flush with the
board. I should actually have brought it
so you could see it. So, it's flush with
the panel. The keys go straight across.
So,
if you turned off the lights and ran
your finger across, you wouldn't be able
to tell.
Which is a little odd. It has a
surprising amount of satisfying travel,
but it's a little strange getting used
to your fingers laying on a almost like
a table and then you're pushing down
into the table rather than slightly
raised. I thought I was going to hate
it. To be perfectly honest, when I first
saw it, I thought like, "Ugh."
And then I realized, "Oh, I don't." It's
not my favorite keyboard, but I don't
hate it and uh it was just a
illustration that
having a goal like getting the keyboard
or getting the computer to be lighter
and slimmer,
that's not the problem. It's all in the
execution. So, I actually
want to commend Ive for being so focused
on it. Yeah, there were some misses
along the way. So freaking what? Now
we're here today and these computers
exist. And now the weird thing is that
for me, the MacBook is the bulky one.
Like it was always the inverse.
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The speaker argues that users should move beyond the 'poverty mindset' of needing only one computer, advocating for the freedom to explore various hardware, operating systems, and platforms. By stepping out of the Apple ecosystem, the speaker discovered a wider world of technology, including high-refresh gaming monitors and advanced screen technologies like OLED. The video also highlights the importance of healthy industry competition—citing advancements from Intel and Qualcomm—and details the speaker's positive experience with new hardware like the Framework Laptop and the Dell XPS, while acknowledging the balance between portability and functional design.
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