Why can't Trump end the Iran war?
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It's 100 days since the latest war in
the Middle East began. The Straight of
Hormuz is still blocked. Iran and Israel
are still lobbing missiles at one
another at times of their own choosing
and in places including obviously
Lebanon that spread the conflict. Donald
Trump, despite his vast military, dances
around on the sidelines shouting insults
in Netanyahu and Thran and endlessly
promising the peace that never quite
comes. I'm joined next tonight by
somebody whose insight and analysis are
always worth it. John Brennan, the
former head of the CIA. Mr. Brennan,
welcome back to the show. It's great to
have you here. Can I ask you to explain
to people listening first of all some of
the domestic pressures that are now on
Trump's shoulders as he desperately
tries to get this peace deal to work?
>> Well, Andrew, I think the pressures are
both on the political front and on the
economic front. I think on the political
front, there are members even of Donald
Trump's Republican party that are tiring
of what's going on in terms of the
continued war um that even if there's a
ceasefire, we still have a large
deployment of troops. It's expensive and
also there are these violations of
ceasefires that I think are bothering a
lot of the Republicans. And so we've
seen Republicans in the House of
Representatives split from the from the
party and vote for a war resolution uh
act that would in fact force the
president to stop the war. Um also
though I think more fundamentally is the
continued high price of oil and what
it's meaning as far as at the gas pump
is concerned particularly during the
summer months when a lot of Americans
are traveling uh on their vacations and
the price of oil has got gone skyhigh.
Uh this is something that I think is
putting pressure on Donald Trump and
even his advisers at the White House. So
they recognize that not only is there a
problem as far as no near-term
resolution of this conflict, but also
the continuation of it is having a both
a political and economic cost,
especially the concerns in the run-up to
the November midterm elections.
>> And in terms of how he's responding to
that pressure, uh President Trump seems
to be quite close to boiling point. I
mean the the profanity littered to phone
call that he had with Netanyahu and
other evidence is that he is getting
deeply deeply frustrated and worried
about his own inability to stop a war he
started.
>> Yes. Even though he says he doesn't care
really about the impact it's having
politically and even dismissed potential
impact on the midterm saying that the
economic pressures on the American
citizen uh is not a concern to him. Uh
it clearly is as you point out. I think
we see these outbursts of temper, his
frustrations. Uh he just walked off the
set of a a recent interview with Meet
the Press just the other day. Uh and
also these profanity profanity laced
tirades that he's reportedly having with
Netanyahu. So clearly the frustration is
getting to him, but you know publicly he
continues to say that everything is in
control. But again, I think it just
demonstrates that he doesn't have a good
sense of how he can get out of this
problem and also the fact that BB
Netanyahu is also complicating it even
more. Uh the Israeli lobby used to be
one of the most powerful forces around
Washington. What is all this doing to
that?
I think they're losing support uh again
because it's having such a political and
economic cost in the United States. Uh
especially when uh the Netanyahu
government continues to violate some of
these ceasefires uh these strikes in
Lebanon and on the outskirts of Beirut.
Uh the Israelis whenever they are able
to geollocate one of the leaders of
Hezbollah or Hamas uh they don't care
about any type of you know ceasefire.
They will go after them. And this is
something that causes then this recent
escalation and the the strikes between
Iran and Israel. And so this is
increasing danger that we could lead to
it could lead to a a full-blown, you
know, um outbreak of hostilities once
again. So, uh, Donald Trump has to find
a way to tell Netanyahu in no uncertain
terms not to take these actions because,
again, they just set back any prospects
for any type of near-term, not
resolution of this conflict, but a an
ability to make sure that this does not
uh flame up again.
>> And John, I noticed that President Trump
was, as it were, making nice to Thran in
some of his recent comments. Do you
think he's got any leverage there at all
at the moment?
Well, I think the Iranians know that
they now have more cards than Donald
Trump has. And Donald Trump's
traditional way of trying to get himself
out of these fixes is to flatter his
adversaries and to make promises to
them. But I I do think that there's a
real absence of trust. And I think the
Iranians know that they really can't
trust Donald Trump uh given that he was
the one that tore up the the previous
Iranian nuclear deal. But also I think
there's real suspicion on the part of
the White House that they can trust the
Iranians. Uh so I think that trust
deficit not just between Iran and United
States but also between uh Tel Aviv and
Washington. Uh I think this is again
further eroding the prospects for some
near-term progress. And so does this
mean that around the world all those
nations and businesses and consumers
desperate for the straight of Hormuz to
be reopened that the bleak but blunt
message is no time soon?
>> Well, I do think it's going to be up to
Donald Trump and Netanyahu to make some
concessions that they find difficult to
swallow. And on the US side, there has
to be concessions about some type of
sanctions relief on Iran, uh lifting the
blockade on the Iranian ports and maybe
unfreezing some of the assets. Uh and
unfortunately, I think Donald Trump is
realizing that he's not going to get a
better deal than President Obama got in
the joint comprehensive plan of action.
So, he's going to have to swallow some
pride. Uh again, Donald Trump will
misrepresent the facts. So, he can
always claim, you know, that he got much
more out of the Iranians than he
actually did. But again, he's going to
have to give the Iranians something
tangible. And it's really on the
economic financial front that the
Iranians really need relief. A tricky
and potentially humiliating moment for
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This segment discusses the political and economic pressures facing Donald Trump regarding the ongoing Middle East conflict, specifically the blocked Strait of Hormuz, rising oil prices, and the instability of the ceasefire agreements. Former CIA director John Brennan offers insight into Trump's frustration with Netanyahu and his failed attempts at diplomacy, suggesting that progress requires difficult concessions on sanctions and an acknowledgement that a better deal than the original Iran nuclear agreement is likely unattainable.
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