Why Internet Fame Sucks
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Hey y'all. I saw this video of Kaiat
showcasing his hate wall, which is
literally a wall in his studio where he
posts some of the most vitriolic things
that people say about him. People
telling him to quit, that he's trying
too hard, what he does is cringe,
everything he does is performative.
And this is a little bit weird because
most of us spend a lot of energy trying
to avoid criticism. So today we're going
to talk about the psychology of hate,
how it affects us, and potentially how
to channel it into something good.
>> I want to show you guys the power to
embrace hate. Embracing hate, you guys
find ways to weaponize it.
>> You guys seen this clip?
>> I
used to struggle with
like caring about what people thought.
So,
>> I got a hate wall
of all the hate
>> that I received
to motivate me even more.
>> Embrace my flaws and find ways,
>> you know.
>> Interesting. He talks about embracing
his flaws,
>> make amazing things.
They don't believe until you make it
cool.
>> So, what I really love about this is to
understand what hate is and to
understand how what are the possible
ways that you can deal with hate. Okay?
So, first thing to understand is hate is
when someone it's not anger, right?
Anger is like diffuse. Anger is like I
can be angry at the rain but I don't
hate the rain. If I develop a hatred for
the rain, that requires a
personification of it. Right? The the
the rain is not a force of nature. It is
like a thing that is in my life that is
actively trying to harm me. So the first
thing to understand is like the
difference between anger and hate is
anger is an emotion activated in the
amygdala. Hate is personal. Hate
requires a me and hate requires a you.
Right? this particular person is doing
this particular thing to me.
And when someone sends hate our way,
there are a lot of different ways we can
deal with it. A really common one that I
deal with as a psychiatrist is people
internalize it. You're at school. I
certainly did. You're at school, people
call you a loser, and if people call you
a loser, that means I'm a loser, right?
You get bullied at school. Maybe your
parents are like, "Oh yeah, you're like
not like there's golden boy, golden
child, and black sheep. You're not like
your older brother. You're not like your
older sister. They're so much smarter
than you, so much better than you. It's
terrible." But sometimes parents play
favorites. So the first thing that we
can do is receive the hate. Like like,
"Hey, bring it in. You hate me. Okay,
this becomes my truth." And we're not
stupid for doing this. This is how we've
evolved, right? So human beings have
evolved to be sensitive to the opinions
of others because we're a communal
species and unless you pay attention to
what people think and you can adjust
that in some way you'll get kicked out
of the tribe and you can't survive as a
human on your own. First thing we do is
internalize it. And now someone said but
we can use it as fuel right but that too
hate can be used by us in a couple of
different ways.
So, in sort of this like narcissistic
picture, when someone sends negativity
your way, they become the victim and
they use their victimhood for their
benefit. Oh my god, this person hates
me. Oh, I'm I'm such a victim in this
scenario. They're trying to take me
down. And there's the good side and the
bad side. There's the Jedi and the Sith.
And the Sith hate the Jedi. And that
means like it's like I'm I'm part of the
force of good. Hate becomes a
representation of evil. We're not going
to take what they say seriously, by the
way. Right? If we're being narcissistic
about it, if they're criticizing me,
that means they are bad. They are
expressing words to me in an angry or
hateful way, that means they are wrong.
Second thing we can do is kind of play
victim. Third thing that we can do is
have it galvanize us. Right? These
people, and this is sort of I think what
Kai is sort of alluding to, is that he
embraces the hate, right? He's going to
prove these people wrong. All these
people are sending anger his way, hate
his his way, and he's like, I'mma prove
him wrong, right? I'mma show them. I use
this as motivation. How? Like, think
about it for a second, right? Cuz
sometimes like it causes us to fall
apart and other times like he goes into
that room and he looks at that and think
about what emotions does that evoke.
Does he feel bad about himself? Right?
So, this is what's really important. I
we don't know exactly what's going on
with Kai, but I think it's a it's a good
principle. So, I I want you all to think
about this for a second, right? When I
evoke, not embrace, when I evoke the
feelings of hate, I'm going to make a
wall of all the people that dislike me.
Okay? And when I make that wall, I'm
going to go and I'm going to look at it
every day. And I want you to think, what
does this do to you? Why would you do
this? And this is where we get to that
component of hate is personal. So, they
are persons and I am a person. I am over
here. They're over here. So we can use
that hatred of like, okay, the way that
we respond to it, I'm going to prove
them wrong. This still becomes about my
ego though. I'm going to prove them
wrong, right? Like they are wrong. I am
right. And I'm going to show them that.
And that can be useful, right? It can
galvanize us into action. As someone
said, we're going to repurpose hate as
motivation also based in the ego. But I
think there's one way that is even
better than that, even healthier than
that, and that is to understand what
hate truly is. So, this is what I want
y'all to think about. Kai right now, I
think he's try trying to start a
clothing line. I don't know the details
or whatever, right? And I think he's
taking a step back from streaming. So,
what is it about him that people hate?
Why does this particular thing result in
this response? Right? So, if we really
want to understand hate and if you guys
want to be able to utilize hate, control
hate, even channel it even more because
using your ego, engaging in the ego is a
problem because then it becomes about me
and you. I'm going to prove them wrong.
But then you're opening yourself to up
to a very dangerous game because now
it's me against you and what if it
doesn't go well. Then they win and you
lose, right? And then if you win, they
lose and then you feel really good. But
you're kind of creating this conflict.
So if you guys really want to understand
hate, if you want to master hate, what
we got to do is look at the comments
themselves. I keep seeing comments, Dr.
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description below. So, this is the first
thing to understand about like hate,
right? So, is it's not always triggered
by everything, even by certain people.
If somebody hates you, there's something
about you that triggers them. And that
is very important information. What
people don't ask is why does this person
hate me? What is it about me that this
person truly hates? And if we look at
the comments, we can get an insight into
that and then we'll understand something
very interesting about hate. So, let's
take a look. Hard to watch. He's trying
too hard. Another quick cash grab. put
some holes in sweaters and stitch some
trash leather together and sell it to a
bunch of kids. Doesn't someone dress him
up? The the stuff that y'all throw on
him, make it make y'all close y'all's
eyes and call it style. What you
yourself is wearing is ugly. You want to
do baggy do early 2000s? This is ugly.
Corny, bro. Ignore the So, here's what I
want y'all to to think about for a
second. Why Why are these people
bothered by this? What difference does
it make to them? He's trying too hard.
What is their criticism? What is the
criticism here? Literally spelled out,
he's trying too hard. Why on earth would
someone trying too hard result in
somebody else hating you? Have you guys
thought about this ever? Right? What do
y'all think? Okay, someone saying
they're jealous. Jealous of what? What
are they jealous of? Fine, it's envy. We
detect that, right? They feel it's
unfair. Threatens their own sense of
self. Very good. Okay. So, this is
beautiful. I love this. You guys are so
good. So, this is the the really
interesting thing that I think people
don't realize about hate. The number one
reason that people will hate you, and I
really believe this, okay, this is not a
hyperbole, is that they see in you a
capability that you are fulfilling that
they are failing to fulfill. Cuz what
they So, let's just think about this for
a second. So Kai is a very successful
streamer. I'm sure he has plenty of
money. And what is he doing? Is he
retiring to a yacht and playing video
games all day and getting high or like
what is he doing? What is he doing? He's
stepping away from his career, entering
an entirely new field that he has no
experience in. I don't know too much
about Kai, so some of these statements
could be wrong. I don't really know. And
he's like, "Hey, I'm gonna try to do
this thing because I'm passionate about
it. I'm stepping outside of my comfort
zone. I'm leaving all of my success
behind. I'm forging into new territory
and I'm going to give something a shot.
And oh my god, do people hate him for
that. And so I once had a patient who
was literally morbidly obese. This is a
medical diagnosis. BMI of like 36 to 38
somewhere is where she started. So this
was back when I was working at Mass
General Hospital in kind of a community
health center. So low socioeconomic
status, poor, lived in Boston. So one of
these like, you know, Irish Catholic
people who had been in Boston for years,
a lot of alcoholism in the family, a lot
of obesity in the family, a lot of abuse
in the family, diagnosis of PTSD comes
to me and I try to help her lose weight
cuz she we're like working on her
confidence. And so then what she starts
to do is like start she goes home and
she says, you know, I'd like to start
eat trying to eat a little bit
healthier. And her parents are like,
that's wonderful. And then she starts to
do it and they hate her for it. I don't
know if you guys have ever seen this,
but like when you make healthy food
choices, have you guys ever noticed that
there are some people in your life that
really try to sabotage you? Like they
really hate you for it. They're like,
"Why are you doing that?" Like, you can
have you can have a sweet. It's okay.
Like, you eat healthy all the time. You
eat so healthy. Eat the brownie. You can
afford to eat the brownie. Like, what
are you worried about? You look great.
Eat the brownie. Why don't you eat the
brownie? I'm okay not eating the
brownie. It's okay. Like, yeah, I know I
eat healthy, but like, I'm okay without
it. Eat the brownie. It like triggers
people so hard. Someone in my life has
recently decided to become vegan for
health reasons. And boy, does it trigger
the f out of the people around, right?
It's almost like they try to sabotage
you. And that's what happened with my
patient. People tried to sabotage her.
It got to the point where when there was
healthy food, she would buy a bag of
literally baby carrots, a 5B bag of baby
carrots or something like that. She came
in one day and she's like, "Look, the
they threw out the baby carrots." And I
was like, "Where did the baby carrots
go?" And they're like, "Oh, they looked
like they were spoiled. They had a weird
smell. Mom threw out the baby carrots."
Why? So, this is the key thing to
understand. If people hate you, there
are a couple of things that you can
You're like, "Oh my god, I used to care
what people think. Now I use it to fuel
me." There's something there's a layer
even beyond that. In my opinion,
understand that they are seeing
something in you that they are reacting
to. They reason they hate you is not
because they think you can fail. They
hate you because they think you can
succeed. They're worried that you're
going to succeed. And it's fine. Like,
they can rationalize out, right? Like,
oh my god, this person is a successful
influencer. They have so much money.
They're so successful. That's why they
have a car and I don't have a car. They
There's something really interesting
because remember, hate is about
identification, personification. It's a
relationship. And this is what they do
is they other influencers, right?
They're like the influencer is not a
person. They have all these advantages
that I would never have. Therefore, I
don't feel like we're comparable. But
the moment that you step outside of your
comfort zone, the moment that you walk
away from your advantages, now suddenly
he's trying too hard. And when we see
somebody else trying too hard, we look
when they see him doing this kind of
stuff, they think about all of the ideas
that they had. All of the ideas
subconsciously that they chose not to
pursue. all of the dreams that they had
that they walked away from because they
said, "I can't do it. It's not going to
work." Or, "What if it fails? What if
people don't like it?" Right? And then
when you do it, it really bothers them.
Hatred and jealousy doesn't apply to
people that you don't identify with. It
applies with the people that you
identify with the most. And even with
influencers, that's the basic problem,
right? Is we're human. So people will
continue to identify with us as they
should because we are human. And when
you start to do something that they know
that they could have done, the reason
people will hate you the most is when
y'all both have a shared potential, but
you live up to it and they do not. This
is very difficult to experience. And
this is where you guys may be on the
hating side, right? What is it like? And
I I see this with people who are
critical of me and I don't know exactly
what's in their head, but sometimes like
I can really feel the identification in
the hate and they're really bothered by
like what I have done because they could
have done it too. They just didn't. And
you may have felt that too. And I want
you guys to think about if you feel this
hate towards someone else, right? Why do
you hate this thing about this person?
And ask yourself, I'm not saying I'm
100% correct here, but ask yourself, is
there an element of this where I am
looking at them and I know if I made
different choices, if I woke up earlier
in the morning, if I did, I know these
are the things that I've always wanted
to do, but I don't do them. And it
shines a light on your weakness. And
that is not something that you can
tolerate. And then what is the ultimate
thing that you can do? You can watch
them get torn down because suddenly if
they got torn down then you are
righteous. You are justified. Oh, thank
God I didn't try cuz that dumbass tried
and he failed. And so it was a smart
move. Thank God I did not try because
the one thing that would be really hard
to live with is to realize that I should
have tried and to make to make me face
that mistake, oh my god, is so hard for
me to manage. So another thing to
understand
people hate you not because of your
capacity to fail but because of your
capacity to succeed. And so people will
say you know if somebody's pissed at me
I must be doing something right. So the
other thing to understand is this is
this is I I try to help people
understand this right? So if you
internalize other people's criticism you
internalize their anger internalize
their hatred the other thing to
understand is the reason they hate you
is because they believe in you. if they
didn't believe in you. No one's hating
on a 90-year-old grandma living in a
nursing home for like trying to make a
gold medal in the Olympics, win a gold
medal, right? No, like no one believes
she's capable of that. So, no one is
going to get jealous of her for that. No
one can be jealous of you. No one can
hate you unless they think something is
possible. And if you guys have been
bullied, you kind of know what I'm
talking about, right? And this is in
every sort of like teenage romcom
with ugly girl with glasses and her hair
done in a bad way. And why do the pretty
girls hate the ugly girl? Why do they
keep her down? Because she's really
beautiful
and they know it and she doesn't. So
they try to push her down, push her
down. At the end of the movie, she has
has her hair done, gets contact lenses,
shows up, right? And then, oh my god,
ugly duckling has transformed. If people
are hating you and you believe you're an
ugly duckling, you're not an ugly
duckling, you're a swan. That's why they
hate you. So, understand that that
hatred is them being afraid of you
living up to your potential. And how
that reflects on them because they see
you, they identify with you, they're
like you and you made it and they
didn't. Oh, really hard to handle if
you're experiencing hate towards other
people. That's the other thing you
should think about as well. why this
person there's one other thing this is a
bit different so as I started
understanding things in this way
teaching things in this way there's
another kind of element to this there's
another kind of motivation that I think
you can get from this hatred so one is
to be galvanized engage in the ego
relationship they want me to fail I'm
going to prove them wrong there's still
an I and there's still a them one of us
is going to win and one of us is going
to lose that is fundamentally an
ego-based relationship ship. I don't
think it's it can really help you
succeed. Don't get me wrong, right? I've
worked with many of people who are
incredibly egodriven and they will rise
to the heights of success, net worths of
like $40 billion, like whatever cuz I
want to be number one. Very good for
motivation. Don't think it's healthy. I
wouldn't advocate for it. But if you
want maximum material success to be
ego-driven is a pretty good way to do
it. I mean, all you have to do is look
around at the world. Look at the people
who are the most successful in the world
and ask yourself, is this person
contented? Is this person peaceful? Are
they egotistical? Are they threatened by
the success of others? How much of their
climb to the top is because they can't
fathom, they can't handle somebody else
climbing to the top because they want to
be number one? They need to be number
one. And will that get you to the top of
the mountain? Sure. Right? I can't make
a strong argument against it, but I
don't think it's the right thing to do.
But if that's what you want, if you want
to be number one, go for it. You know,
sometimes when when clients come to me,
I'll I'll tell them kind of straight up,
look, if your goal is to make a billion
dollars, you should probably go to
somebody else. If your goal is to make
between 10 and hundred million and you
want to be relatively happy, contentful,
and peaceful doing it, then I'm the
right person. Like entrepreneurs that I
work with, so I'll I'll be really
straight with them. It's like, if you
want to be number one, like go to
somebody else. If you want to be happy,
content, and be very successful, then
I'm the person. So this other element
that I want to talk to you all about is
a little bit strange. But when I sort of
got a lot of hate, I started to realize
that this is the mountain that I have to
climb. And sometimes when people send
hate your way, this is sort of like the
spiritual work that you have to do. So
for my patient who is trying to lose
weight, when you're moving in the right
direction,
what's really scary is the world doesn't
show up to make it easy for you. In
fact, the better you do, the greater the
challenges the universe will place in
front of you. It's hard enough to have a
BMI of 38.1
and decide, I want to try to eat
healthy. It's hard enough to try to
conquer your own desires, be raised in a
household where soda is available, three
meals a day, consume three meals a day.
It's hard to be in a household and make
all of these changes on your own. And
when you decide to put your life
together, the universe is like, "Ah, you
know what? We're going to make it
harder. We're going to make your parents
throw out your healthy food." And this
is where a lot of people despair and
understandably so. Like, it's hard
enough to do this and now you're going
to throw this against me. There's
another angle to this that I'm trying to
find the words for, but like this is
your spiritual challenge. This is where
you will truly understand. This is the
universe giving you the opportunity to
really understand how incredibly
powerful you are. That is hard for
regular people to do. This is damn near
impossible. But you are absolutely
capable. And you must be forged in the
fires, right? The heat of the fire is
what determines the purity of the metal.
And so as difficulties arise, as you
start to walk a path that is spiritually
harmonious, as you start to become the
person that you know you were capable of
being truly living up to your potential,
the world will help you in some ways,
but it'll also increase the handicap.
And we understand this in video games,
right? You beat level one that has the
final boss is level 10. You go to the
second zone, final boss is level 20.
Final third zone, final boss is level
30. Last boss in the game is level 60.
As you get better in life, it's kind of
weird. It's hard to describe. You will
notice that there are more and more
roadblocks that get put in front of you
just when things are going right. If
this is happening in your life, do not
despair. Understand that this is the
universe forcing you to become what you
are truly capable of. Right. And this is
what's kind of weird. Once you
understand that, once you understand,
okay, this is the handicap, so be it.
I'm not going to give up. And that's
kind of the the interesting thing.
That's the step you have to take, right?
Like, let the world like, let it come.
Like, come at me, bro. I may fail and
that's okay. But I'm not going to give
up. Things are getting harder and harder
and harder. So be it. Am I going to give
up? No. That's where you become who you
truly are, right? That's how you develop
power and confidence. In Sanskrit, we
call this word shi energy. That's when
you start to channel your most divine
self. When the world is arrayed against
you and all hope is lost, right? That's
when you really rise to the best. So one
time I played as for last story, one
time I played at a charity tournament
for Dota 2 and I suck at Dota and it was
a charity tournament. So, there were a
bunch of retired pros, okay, who were
like playing, not retired, some of them
were like top streamers and things like
that. Some of them were retired pros,
right? And some of the best players in
in their day, they were the best players
in the world. And like it's a charity
tournament. I'm the lowest player there
by several thousand MMR. And I played
the best goddamn Dota of my life.
There's one moment apparently where I
jked a TI winner in the trees and like
chat was going insane, right? But like I
can only play my best. You can't play
your best if you're smurfing. what
you're truly capable of is only revealed
with the depth of hardship that you're
facing. And so if people are hating on
you and you feel like the world is is
moving against you, no my friend. Well,
actually, yes, it is moving against you.
But it doesn't matter because you can
handle it. All you need to do is become
that which you know you are. Deep inside
you, there's a voice that tells you, "Oh
my god, like I can do this. I can do
this. I can do this." Right? I want to.
Actually, it doesn't tell you I can do
it. It tells you this needs to be done.
It's a calling that is deep within you.
So when people come at your way with
hate, realize this is the universe
telling you to level up, telling you to
become what you should, what you are
meant to be. And then remove and when I
when I go through that process and I try
to help people go through that process,
it also removes ego from the equation,
right? It's like they hate us. We don't
need to teach them a lesson. Like why?
That's a gratification of the ego. What
I tell my clients that I work with is
leave them in the dust. Don't Why play
whack-a-ole with haters on the internet?
Just leave them in the dust, right? The
best revenge is living a good life. And
really, that's true. They're going to be
back there raging and hoping your next
endeavor fails while you are doing
something that is wonderful, engaging,
testing yourself, right? And if you guys
have played video games or you've
competed, you know that the most
satisfaction win, most satisfying win,
the most satisfying achievement comes
because of the challenge, in spite of
the challenge. Because the world teaches
us that we are nothing. And when it
tries really hard to teach us that
lesson and when we refuse to learn it,
when we become what we are truly meant
to be, that is what when we know who we
are. So the universe is sending you you
hate signals because it wants you to
grow up.
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This video explores the psychology behind receiving hate and criticism, using influencer Kai Cenat's 'hate wall' as a starting point. Dr. K distinguishes between anger and hate, emphasizing that hate is personal and often stems from the observers' own insecurities. He argues that hate can be a sign that you are fulfilling your potential, which threatens those who have chosen not to pursue their own goals. Rather than letting hate feed the ego, Dr. K suggests reframing it as a 'spiritual challenge' or a 'level-up' signal from the universe, urging viewers to focus on their personal growth and leave their detractors behind.
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