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The 10-year yield almost brushed against

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4.8% and there is no question that at

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some level of interest rates the market

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will correct. The entire US economy

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hinges on the success of AI. The amount

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being spent is just so large that were

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it to stop, the economy would go into a

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recession almost immediately. I think

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that open AI is potentially in trouble.

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Things are not moving in the right

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direction. So, I'm starting to think

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that the demise of open AI could push

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the US into an almost immediate

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recession. It's not too early to think

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about the ramifications of open AI

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failing. So, let's think about it.

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Hi, this is Steve Eisman. Welcome to the

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weekly rap. This is for the week ending

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before we raise the price on September

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7th. Over the past several months, we've

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gotten several requests from subscribers

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to interview Ed Zitron, the Substack

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newsletter writer, who is one of the

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most famous critics of the entire AI

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story. So, I'm pleased to announce that

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this coming Wednesday, September 9, on

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premium, we will post an interview with

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Ed Zitron. Open AAI and Anthropic to

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account for 48% of all of Google Cloud's

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revenues next year, which is

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>> that's huge,

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>> bonkers. That's crazy. That means that

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Google Cloud's growth is based on

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whether these companies will pay them.

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>> We had an incredible conversation and

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covered every aspect of the AI story,

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its strengths, weaknesses, the financial

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shenanigans, and where and how it could

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fail. So, please tune in. In this weekly

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rap, I will discuss one, war, oil, and

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interest rate news. Two, the

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increasingly insatiable need for

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commentators to predict a dystopian

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ending to the AI bubble. Three, why I'm

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not there yet. Four, AI's insatiable

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need for capex is the major driver of

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GDP growth. Five, is open AI the

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potential catalyst for a recession? And

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six, some recent events. So, let's get

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started. This week, the war heated back

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up and oil prices spiked, thereby

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driving fears of mounting inflation. The

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10-year yield almost brushed against

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4.8%. And there is no question that at

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some level of interest rates the market

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will correct. What that level is, no one

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really knows. I thought that 4.5% was

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the Rubicon and I was wrong. Is it 4.8%

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or even higher? I don't really know, but

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we are certainly getting closer. I'd

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also point out that part of the problem

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is the enormous amount of AI debt being

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issued. This supply is putting pressure

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on rates. And I'd also point out that

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Treasury Secretary Besson's recent

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attempt to reduce long-term rates

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appears to have already failed. One more

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point, higher rates put pressure on any

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company issuing debt. However, higher

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rates are good for consumers who save

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and put their money in the bank or in a

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money market fund. Before we get to some

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of this week's events, I am going to

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spend some time discussing the desire by

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many commentators to call for the end of

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the world and what it would actually

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take to cause a recession. Now, one of

4:01

the last great sitcoms on network TV was

4:04

The Big Bang Theory. For those of you

4:06

who never watched the show, it was about

4:08

a group of friends who were science

4:09

nerds. In the show, there was a minor

4:11

character called Stewart. Stuart owned a

4:14

comic book store that the main

4:16

characters like to hang out at as they

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all loved comic books. Now, recently,

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Chuck Lori, the creator of The Big Bang

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Theory, created a new show on HBO called

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Stuart Fails to Save the Universe. In

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this new show, a catastrophe has

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enveloped the world, and humanity now

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lives in a horrible dystopia. Stuart

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finds a machine that allows him and his

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friends to travel to alternative

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universes, constantly searching for a

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better place to live. Thus far on the

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show, every universe Steuart jumps to is

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just another form of dystopia. Show is

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quite funny, but captures something

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essential. There is something about

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imagining a dystopian future that people

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find captivating. I've noticed that over

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the years since the GFC, whenever I am

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interviewed, the interviewer is almost

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begging me to predict the end of the

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world. How do I feel about that? Well, I

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predicted the end of the world once, and

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believe me, it was no fun. I am in no

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rush to predict to the end of the world

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again, unless I am really convinced that

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it's going to happen. But I'm not going

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to make such a prediction just because

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it will get a lot of press. There is no

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question in my mind that the entire US

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economy hinges on the success of AI. The

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amount being spent is just so large that

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were it to stop, the economy would go

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into a recession almost immediately.

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There are several commentators who are

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making exactly that prediction. They

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could be right, but right now the data

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does not support the end of the AI

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story, at least not yet. So let me point

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out where the points of weakness reside

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because it's time to consider how the

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unwind could could occur, what the

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catalysts are and what the impact could

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could be. Now there is no question that

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the large tech companies have

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transformed the dynamics of their

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businesses. They used to run businesses

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that threw off so much cash they didn't

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know what to do with it. But because of

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the hundreds of billions they are each

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spending on AI capex, their cash flow

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has evaporated and in some cases they

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are raising both debt and equity to fund

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that capex. This is a topic of great

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concern. It gets a lot of press, but it

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is not necessarily the deathnell of the

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AI story. After all, if and it's a big

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if, AI generates new businesses and

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large returns on this capex investment,

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then the hyperscalers will be okay. Now,

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there is also a great deal of circular

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financing going on, mostly led by

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Nvidia, and these transactions are very

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complicated and convoluted, but

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essentially Nvidia is either lending

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money or making equity investments. The

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companies then take that cash and buy

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more Nvidia chips. Now I'm

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oversimplifying but that is essentially

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what is going on. Nvidia's potential

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investment in perplexity and the recent

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investment in poolside are only the most

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recent examples of such transactions.

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This financing circularity is also a

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topic of great concern. However, here

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too if AI succeeds then these financing

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techniques will probably turn out to be

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okay. So where is the Achilles heel? I

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think that it resides with anthropic and

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open AI because they are so central to

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the entire AI food chain. According to

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reports from various Wall Street firms,

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something like 70% of hyperscaler AI

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revenue comes from anthropic and open

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AI. 70% equates to around 25 to 35% of

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total hyperscaler cloud revenue. I can't

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confirm those statistics, but they sound

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right given what we actually know about

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Oracle. Oracle has a backlog of around

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600 billion and we know because the

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information is public that around 50%

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50% of that backlog is from open AI

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alone and by the way open AI accounts

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for over 20% of coreweave's total

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contracted order book hyperscalers are

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spending about 700 billion in capex this

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year and even more next year and that

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spend accounts for around half of the 2%

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% GDP growth projected for 2026.

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So one must conclude that the health of

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the US economy is extremely dependent on

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hyperscaler capex and hyperscaler capex

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x is highly dependent on the health of

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anthropic and open aai. That's the

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chain. Now between the two openai is the

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weaker entity. It has lost several key

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senior employees. Let's list them

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because the list is kind of

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illuminating. One, Denise Dresser, chief

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revenue officer, resigned in August 2026

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after only eight months on the job. That

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probably means she gave up all her stock

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options as those usually don't vest for

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at least a year. That's a big data point

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for her. I guess moving on was perhaps

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worth the loss options and maybe she

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never thought they would vest because

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going public is being pushed further out

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on the timeline. Two, Brad Lcap, former

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COO, resigned in August 2026 after eight

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years with the company. Three, Caitlyn

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Kalinowski, head of robotics and

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consumer hardware, resigned in March

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2026 over governance concerns regarding

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an agreement with the Pentagon. Four,

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Kate Rouch, chief marketing officer, and

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Kevin Wild, science research overseer,

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both departed in April 2026. The most

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concerning departures are the ones that

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took place this August. Denise Dresser

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and Brad Lcap. Supposedly, OpenAI is

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getting closer to an IPO. That's the big

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payday for employees because it means

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that eventually they can sell some of

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their shares. That two such senior

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employees would leave now is an

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important data point. More importantly,

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OpenAI's financials look tepid. The Wall

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Street Journal reported that OpenAI's

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June quarter revenue reached 6.7

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billion, up only only 18% versus the

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March quarter. Compare that to

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Anthropic's revenue of 11 billion plus

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in the June quarter, which was up over

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100% versus the March quarter. What's

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even worse than the relatively weak

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revenue growth is the explosion in

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costs. Again, according to the Wall

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Street Journal, OpenAI's costs reached

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12.3 billion, up 3 billion versus the

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March quarter. So, in 3 months, revenue

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increased 1 billion, but costs surged 3

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billion. Things are not moving in the

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right direction. Now, you might ask,

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what is the problem at OpenAI? Part of

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the problem, I think, is that OpenAI

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made a strategic mistake. It chose to

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chase the business to consumer market, B

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TOC. It did so by giving its product

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away or underpricing it with the hope

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that later on it could raise prices.

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That strategy proved to be flawed and

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now OpenAI is chasing the businessto

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business market B2B. The problem is that

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it's late and playing catch-up with

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anthropic which chose the B2B market at

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the outset. Again, I think that OpenAI

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is potentially in trouble and this bears

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continuous monitoring. According to Ed

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Zitron, our guest in a week, to survive,

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Open AI will have to raise hundred

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billion dollars per year for the next

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several years. Now, when you lose

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billions upon billions, appearances

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matter a lot. Open AI is completely

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dependent on the kindness of strangers

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funding its cash flow needs. When a

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company is growing and very profitable,

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appearances don't matter nearly as much.

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Such a company can survive quite well.

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But when a company is not profitable and

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has an insatiable need for capital,

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appearances matter more than anything

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because if the narrative turns negative,

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raising capital becomes much more

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difficult. Now, this is just me reading

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the tea leaves, but Open AI's press is

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no longer all positive. The press is

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actually focused on the high level of

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departures and on the weak numbers I

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just described. That's why, as Ed Zitron

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wrote recently, it's not too early to

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think about the ramifications of Open AI

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failing. So, let's think about it. First

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of all, I want to emphasize I'm not

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predicting, at least not yet, that Open

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AI will fail. I still think it's too

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early to make that prediction, but it's

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not too early to think about it. If Open

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AI fails, Oracle is in immediate trouble

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because of the large increase in

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Oracle's debt levels. Oracle's debt

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rating is barely above junk. Oracle's

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S&P credit rating is tripleB minus,

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which is quite weak. Like I said before,

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it has a $600 billion backlog, and half

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of that backlog is from OpenAI. Now,

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what would happen to Oracle stock price

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if Open AAI failed? Well, we've already

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had something of a preview. Last year

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when Oracle reported its backlog for the

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August quarter of 2025,

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what it calls remaining performance

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obligations, RPO, it showed an RPO

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explosion to 455 billion. It's now 600

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billion. Now, in that quarter, the RPO

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was up over 300 billion in just three

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months. People were blown away. Prior to

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the earnings report, stock was $230 a

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share. In just a few days, it jumped to

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$330 a share. Then analysts started

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publishing reports pointing out that 50%

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of the RPO was from Open AI, and the

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stock gave back all of its gains plus in

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a few months. Today, the stock is around

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145, well below where it stood before it

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reported the August 2025 quarter

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results. From the peak, the stock is

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down over 50%. That decline is because

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the market perceives an over reliance on

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Open AI. Imagine what the market would

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do to Oracle stock if Open AI fails. The

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ramifications of an OpenAI failure

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extend far beyond just Oracle. Remember

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I said that AI capex accounts for 50% of

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US GDP growth. While the other

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hyperscalers are not quite as dependent

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on entropic and open AAI as Oracle, they

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are dependent enough. If OpenAI failed,

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the hyperscalers I am sure would cut

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back on their capex. So I'm starting to

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think that the demise of Open AI could

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push the US into an almost immediate

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recession. So what would happen to

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particular stocks and sectors? Well,

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first the hyperscalers would go down. A

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failure of Open AI would mean they would

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pull back on capex. cloud revenue growth

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would slow and these stocks Amazon,

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Google, Microsoft and Oracle, Nvidia,

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I'm sure as well would all correct.

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Also, the whole tech sector would

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correct. But the ramifications are even

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much broader than just that. Investment

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banks and large banks, these stocks are

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at peak valuations. Also, the investment

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banking cycle is super strong right now,

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partially because of the financing needs

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of AI. Should those needs lessen, the

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investment banking cycle would weaken

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and these stocks would correct from

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their peak valuations. Industrials.

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There is a subset of industrial

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companies that are major beneficiaries

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of AI. They are in the power space like

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GE Vernova and Quanta or they are in the

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electrification or automation spaces

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like Eaton and Rockwell. These stocks

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will decline as well. So what will do

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well? This is not a stockpicking

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question but a reallocation question.

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Investors will reallocate to safety

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sectors and subsectors. In the safety

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sector category, think about healthcare

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and consumer staples. I'd also point out

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that within almost every sector, there

15:57

exists safety subsectors. For example,

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within financials, the property and

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casualty sector is considered the safety

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subsector. Since we are talking about

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capital reallocation and not stock

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picking, let me flag three safety ETFs.

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One, LVHD,

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the Franklin US low volatility high

16:18

dividend index ETF. SPLV,

16:23

the Invesco S&P 500 low volatility ETF.

16:27

And finally, the KBWP,

16:30

which is the Invesco KBW Property and

16:33

Casualty Insurance ETF. It's still early

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and I want to emphasize that I am not

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making a major call. Not yet. I'm just

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preparing. Last week, Nvidia reported

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and the results in many ways support

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what I'm saying about the AI story that

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it continues but is displaying potential

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weakness. Both apparently contradictory

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ideas can be true. What do I mean by

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that? On the one hand, Nvidia's results

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show that the AI story continues. How

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could it be otherwise? The hyperscalers

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continue to increase their capex and

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that means they are buying more chips

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from Nvidia. Nvidia's July 2026 quarter

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results showed revenue growth in excess

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of 100%. 100%. Think about it. The

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largest company by market cap on planet

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Earth just posted revenue growth in

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excess of 100%. And that is an

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acceleration from the 85% revenue growth

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in the April 2026 quarter. That shows

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that the AI story continues. However,

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beneath the surface, there are

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weaknesses. In note 7 of Nvidia's 10Q,

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it states, quote, "Five direct customers

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accounted for 22%, 14%, 13%, 11%, and

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10% of our accounts receivable balance

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as of July 26, 2026." End quote. That

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adds up to 70%. So yes, Nvidia's revenue

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growth is explosive, but it is dependent

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largely on only five companies. Who are

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those companies? They must be the

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hyperscalers who therefore account for

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most of Nvidia's revenue. And the AI

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revenue of the hyperscalers, as we've

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just discussed, is dependent largely on

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entropic and open AI. Once again, it

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looks like the entire AI ecosystem is

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dependent on the future health and

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success of two companies that currently

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lose billions. Again, if Anthropic or

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OpenAI ever get into trouble, the whole

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AI ecosystem will slow to a crawl. There

18:34

was also news from OpenAI that at first

18:36

looked positive, but which I think was

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actually quite negative. Open AAI

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announced that its advertising business

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reached 1 billion in an annualized

18:47

revenue run rate, ARR. Now, I have no

18:50

idea what ARR means in this context.

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What exactly is being annualized? Is it

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revenue for a day, week, month, or

18:59

quarter? OpenAI won't say. But leaving

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aside the definition of ARR, what was

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interesting was that this news was

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lauded by the business press. Not so

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fast. First of all, in the June quarter,

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OpenAI had 6.7 billion in revenue and

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12.3 billion in costs. So 1 billion in

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advertising ARR hardly cuts those losses

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by much. More importantly, much more

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importantly, earlier this year, OpenAI

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projected 2.4 billion in advertising

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revenue for all of 2026.

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1 billion ARR now means that it won't be

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even close to that 2.4 billion

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projection. In other important news,

19:40

Meta reached a legal settlement with

19:43

several state attorneys general.

19:45

California-based lawsuit alleged that

19:47

Meta harmed young adults and children

19:49

via its algorithms. The size of the

19:51

settlement was not large, 17 plus

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billion. More importantly, Meta agreed

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to change its conduct and alter its

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algorithms. Now, on June 17th, we posted

20:02

an interview on our premium Substack

20:04

service with law professor Ben Zaperski.

20:07

In the interview, Professor Zaperski

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outlined the legal theories behind these

20:12

social media lawsuits. Our problem is

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with your algorithms, not with the

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content that the algorithms get users

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to, but with how much they use it and

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how addicted to it they are.

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>> I reached out to him and asked him what

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he thought of the settlement, and this

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was his response. Quote, I think the

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state AG should be pleased to have

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extracted from Meta a commitment to

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change the way they do things to

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children and teens. The draft consent

20:42

agreement is quite detailed. And my

20:44

current instinct is that it could really

20:46

make a difference to kids, assuming they

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were mainly users of Meta's platforms,

20:51

not other platforms. I also think Meta

20:54

is in some ways the biggest fish here,

20:56

and it really does put pressure on the

20:58

other defendants, for example, Tik Tok

21:00

and Snap in related lawsuits. I think

21:02

Meta was smart to do this. The verdict

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could have been much bigger. Equally

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important, they may avoid legislation

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and regulation from many different

21:11

states and they will get to play a key

21:13

role on what sorts of rules they will

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have to abide by. And it is possible

21:18

that this show of cooperiveness may have

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an impact on some of the other cases

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that lie ahead. I.e. judges including

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the federal judge in the Northern

21:25

District of California who still

21:27

presides over a massive number of live

21:30

cases against Meta may be more favorably

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inclined on close calls moving forward.

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Finally, and not insignificantly, one of

21:36

the big problems for defendants in mass

21:38

tort cases is that with regard to

21:40

individual tort plaintiffs, one worries

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that the stream of cases will never dry

21:45

up. By changing their practices now in a

21:48

way that state ages approve of, they

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will make September of 2026 or whenever

21:53

they really change a kind of line in the

21:56

sand moving forward. To illustrate, 10

21:58

year olds now who try to bring claims in

22:01

2036 for their psychiatric problems as

22:04

20 year olds will probably lose out of

22:06

the gate. And no doubt Meta will try to

22:08

use this fact far more aggressively than

22:11

that. Most of all, I do think the result

22:14

is good in the sense that public health

22:15

may benefit and less money may get spent

22:17

on litigation. Thank you, Professor

22:19

Zaperski, for your response. Several

22:21

weeks ago, I recommended a whole bunch

22:23

of books. I also said that I love

22:25

historical fiction and in honor of the

22:27

new movie the Odyssey I recommended a

22:28

trilogy by David Gmel with the first

22:31

book called Lord of the Silver Bow. The

22:33

trilogy is an incredible reimagining of

22:35

the Iliad. One viewer wrote to me that

22:37

based on my recommendation, he read the

22:39

trilogy and loved it and asked for

22:42

another historical fiction

22:43

recommendation. Here's one. It's a four

22:46

book series that begins with Mistress of

22:48

Rome by Kate Quinn. The series starts

22:50

with the reign of Emperor Demission in

22:52

Rome and ends with the reign of Hadrien.

22:55

It's amazing. This coming Monday,

22:57

September 7, we will post an interview

22:59

with Ryan Tunis, a property and casualty

23:01

insurance analyst at Caner. This is a

23:03

very timely interview. Investors are

23:05

looking for ways to diversify away from

23:07

the AI tech trade. I would point out

23:10

that there are safety sectors and within

23:12

every sector there are safety subsectors

23:15

and the property and casualty insurance

23:16

subsector is the safety sub- sector

23:18

within financials. So if you're looking

23:20

for some low volatility safety stocks,

23:23

this interview is timely. The best way

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23:39

advice. The hosts and guests may hold

23:41

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expressed on their own and not

23:45

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23:47

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23:50

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Interactive Summary

In this weekly wrap, Steve Eisman explores the precarious state of the US economy, highlighting its significant dependence on AI capital expenditure. He details the potential risks posed by the financial health of key AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic, arguing that their potential failure could trigger a broader market correction and even a recession. The discussion covers the circular nature of current AI financing, the tech sector's vulnerability, and potential defensive investment strategies during these uncertain times.

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