The way you want is the most impact with

the least amount of sacrifice. Make it

easy and also maximum impact.

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>> Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York

Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast

Network. I'm Cara Swisser

>> and I'm Scott Galloway.

>> Before we do anything, I'd like to point

out that as of this episode drops, it's

been 42 days since the deadline passed

for the DOJ to release all the Epstein

files. Though, we do have an update. DOJ

officials said in a court filing this

week that they expect to release the

files quote in the near term, but they

did not provide a specific date. Pam

Bondi, get on it. Scott, after Sunday's

bonus episode about the violence in

Minnesota, we've gotten a mountain of

responses to our discussion of the

economic strike that you suggested. I

know you're working on something and

we'll talk about that in a minute. But

first, here's what some of our listeners

had to say. I'm seeing online some

suggestions of people stop paying their

income tax by updating their W2.

>> I and many of my colleagues are watching

with sadness a lot of anxiety and anger

at the escalating violence and I keep

wondering what if anything people

outside the US like me can do that's

actually useful. Reportedly, Vanguard,

Black Rockck, and Fidelity hold half of

the shares in two companies, GEO Group

and Core Civic, which run nearly 90% of

ICE detention facilities. If investors

divested from these collaborators and

others, could that put a stop to ISIS's

worst abuses? And given a lot of you

have been writing in wondering what you

can do personally, we asked financial

educator Vivian Tu, host of Net Worth

and Chill, uh, to give some tips on how

to make an impact. Let's hear what she

had to say. Hey Scott and Cara, heard

you guys were talking about an economic

blackout. I've got a couple personal

finance tips. For our friends with a lot

of financial discipline, you could

consider changing your W4 withholding

for your taxes. You'll pay fewer taxes

throughout the year and then pay them

all in one lump sum come tax time.

You're not going to get to pay fewer

taxes overall, but why let the

government hold your money and do stuff

with it for longer than they need to?

Make sure you are taking advantage of

time value of money. Up next, everybody

talks about shopping local versus

corporate, but another thing you can do

is pay in cash. These local businesses

often times might even give you a small

discount for doing so because then they

have to give less up as well. Wink wink.

And last but not least, for the economic

blackout, money that you aren't spending

on buying stuff, make sure you're

putting towards a really smart strategic

cause. Things like paying down your debt

so you aren't so heavily tied to

financial institutions, but also causes

that you care about that might support

things like immigration or human rights.

The main takeaway is this. Economic

boycotts do not work if a small

population stops spending cold turkey

for one to two days. What we're actually

going to need is a critical mass of

people to scale back their consumerism

over weeks and months. And even if they

can only do it to 70 or 80% of their

ability, that is going to have a bigger

impact.

>> Scott, you should know Vivian's upcoming

book is called Wellend Endowed. I

thought you'd like that. Um, but you

what? This has taken over.

>> She did not interview me. She did not

interview me.

>> So, tell me you tell me what what we

talked about this a lot of people were

talking about it. Go for it. Well, last

night I was about to make love to my

sweet, sweet lady and uh she put my

penis in her hand and then it was dark

out and she said, "I'm sorry, don't

smoke."

>> Um,

[laughter]

national economic strike.

>> Okay, great. You stepping on your penis

there, Scott. Go ahead. uh my bluff has

been called here and that is uh I think

that America feels a lot of anxiety

around its government not providing

security and prosperity but terror and

anxiety and I've thought a lot about

this and if you look at where Trump and

the administration respond they don't

respond from citizenry co-equal branches

of government or even the Supreme Court

where they do respond really crisply is

uh from markets and within 24 hours he

backed off tariffs annex in Greenland,

um pressure on interest rates, tariffs,

when one thing has happened, the S&P has

gone down or the bond market has started

to get wobbly. So then the question

becomes if that's the fastest blue line

path to getting ice out of cities or to

putting in more protocols or or just

flexing that we're watching.

The fastest way to do that, what you

want is the most impact with the least

amount of sacrifice from the cit

citizenry

>> to make it easy. make it easy and also

maximum impact. I think not buying

groceries is not a lot of impact because

these companies are very low margin. Uh

they're not companies CEOs that he

listens to or cares about. So I

bifurcated into two types of companies.

What I call ground zero. Big tech

controls 40% of the S&P. They are growth

companies that are very very highly

valued right now. So any any slowdown in

growth could potentially have a

disastrous effect on them. So that's

kind of the soft tissue of the economy

right now and where our consumer

economy, which is 70% consumer spending,

could have the greatest impact with the

least amount of effort. So I've listed a

series of big tech companies and um

launching the site uh probably on

Sunday.

>> What's it called?

>> Uh it's called uh Thank you for asking.

in doubt.

>> It's called It's called Resist and

Unsubscribe. So, if you like what we're

saying, don't like and subscribe. Resist

and unsubscribe. I've also got the URL

>> um uh unsubscribe February because to

Vivian's point, it can't be one day or a

week. It has to be sustained and there

has to be a viral component to it. So,

the companies in what I call ground zero

are Amazon and I have instructions on

how to subscribe from Amazon Prime,

Audible, Amazon Music, Prime Video,

Anthropic. You could pick what you want,

right? You could

>> Well, hopefully all and not only that, I

don't want to tell people what to do and

what not to do. People have different

means point. Yeah.

>> People have different means and ideas on

how they can participate. And I'm not

going to tell anyone to not buy

groceries or not show up for work, but

if you want to have the biggest impact

possible, I've tried to identify those

companies. Disney, Google, Microsoft,

Netflix, Open AI, Uber, and Meta. And

>> and then you've given the argument why

why what they've done. So you can decide

what you think is acceptable or not.

>> The reason why I I really do think this

idea is so powerful is you get a couple

free gifts with purchase. Not only do

you achieve the quoteunquote economic

slowdown, but you have an outsized

impact unsubscribing specifically from

these companies that are driving the

market right now.

>> Two, it just so happens that the

majority of the CEOs this of these

companies have been especially

sickopantic and

>> played a really large role in enabling

all this [ __ ] Whether it's Tim Cook

showing up and prostrating himself with

a Melania documentary, whether it's

Amazon greenlighting a $30 million um uh

documentary that made no [ __ ] sense

that was just pure grift or bribery,

>> whether it's uh uh obviously meta,

whether it's Satcha Nadella sitting

there and trying to communicate to

people, I don't like it, but I'm going

to continue to do it. Just want to

remind everybody that back in the early

30s, Hitler's rise was largely enabled

by corporate CEOs who basically said,

"If you destroy our trade unions, we

won't speak up against this democratic

slide into fascism." And once it got out

of hand, it was too late for them to do

anything. So, we have been to this place

before where people used the excuse of

shareholder value to enable and and

basically not provide any friction to

what is the type of terror. question

because I think a lot of people want to

decide like one of the things that's

good is we're Scott's I've seen some of

it is going to give you information to

make your own decisions. For example,

with me I got rid of arcade. I got rid

of the one thing I got rid of

>> not buying an iPhone

>> not buying an iPhone. So

>> canceling Apple Music, whatever it might

be.

>> Yeah, whatever. But if you want to do

that and keep Apple Music, like we don't

we don't judge you. It's just here's

your the tools, right? Here's the tools.

Stop doing Prime. If maybe if you don't

want to cancel Prime completely, you can

stop buying on it for like people should

decide.

>> People should decide what to do. And

it's not forever, by the way. It's not I

shall never use it again, right? Like

orange juice people still drink after

the boycott of Anita Bryant. That's 100

years ago, kids. Um, but that's what

you're trying to get at is giving people

tools on does it have links to where you

where you can do these things or just

>> name of the company, all the different

services you can unsubscribe to, a link

to where you unsubscribe, the

unsubscribe page, and a brief

description of why we're doing this. So,

the the ground zero is big tech

companies. And also,

>> the truth has a nice ring to it. I'm

going from two LLMs to one. I don't need

Anthropic and Open AI. I'm going and

this is the one that hurts. I'm going

from six streaming platforms to one. I'm

not giving up on all streaming

platforms, but I'm going to pair it way

back. And the free gift with purchase

here, when you start looking at this

stuff,

>> I found out, for example, I have three

HBO Max accounts. I didn't realize I had

three.

>> It's not a bad idea to take some time to

think where am I just spending money

every month,

>> unbeknownst to me, where quite frankly,

I probably could pair back a little bit.

So there's the ground zero. That's the

big tech companies who will have an

outsiz impact on your your absenteeism.

By the way, the most radical act in a

capitalist society, hands down, is

nonparticipation. Yeah.

>> And then the second group of companies I

list is called the blast zone. And these

are companies that are directly working

with uh ICE. AT&T awarded 90 million to

provide ICE with IT and network

projects. Comcast, Charter

Communications, Dell Technologies,

Deote, FedEx, Palanteer, UPS. I list how

you can how you can leverage your

economic muscle against them and what

how they are participating. You may

decide that this is you know not for you

or it's too big to give up. But I'm

giving you a ton of options. There's

ground zero outsiz impact and then

there's the blast zone that is companies

directly working with them. And I want

to be realistic.

>> I am not going to give up telco but I've

switched to mobile from AT&T. I'm going

to go from five streaming media

platforms

>> to one. And I think you can have a lot

of impact here. I'm trying to make it as

social as possible

>> and hope that people join in. But I

think if we're looking the for the

lowest tax way on citizenry

>> to get the administration

>> to um to pay attention. It's about

markets. It's not about ideology. It's

about math.

>> And it's about not participating. And

it's the easiest thing I could come up

with to have an outsized impact. We had

a lot of stuff about people not knowing

what to do and maybe they don't want to

go to protest or fly to Minneapolis if

you don't want to do that or you don't

want to just sit around and doom scroll

and activism. This is this is an one of

the many many many ways. And I think

it's great that you're doing this,

Scott. Good for you. What streaming

service did you keep?

>> Oh, I can't say.

>> But I I was I was talking I had we had a

you know one of those family meetings.

Yeah.

>> I don't want to play favorites. Um

>> um uh because I've already heard from

some of the CEOs of these companies. is

already out. And they're, by the way,

they're not thrilled about this.

>> No, they're not. I've gotten some

[laughter]

>> I've got some that was the only that was

really aha moment. We had a family

meeting and I said to my kids, we're

going to cancel it all streaming

streaming media platforms. And I

literally got that look like memo to

self, smother, dad, and sleep.

>> So [laughter] I said I said we can keep

one and it's only for February.

>> Yeah.

>> And there's a huge argument because one

kid's into Premier League football and

that's Paramount Plus and the other's

like, Paramount Plus, are you [ __ ]

high? I mean, and it just caused

a near riot.

>> See, that's the I had a discussion with

one of my children about Apple Music.

I'm still in the middle of the

discussion about it. I was like,

>> "Oh, yeah." So, they're like, "Okay, I'm

off Apple Music, Amazon Music, but

they're keeping Spotify." It was

interesting consumer preference. It came

down to Netflix or HBO Max was the two

we distilled down to, and I won't tell

you which one we picked.

>> All right. Okay.

>> But it's interesting to think about how

you prioritize.

>> It is. I [clears throat] was surprised

by the push back from one of my

children. They're like, "Wait a minute.

All my list." I was like, "Oh, you know,

but anyway, you have those discussions.

It's actually then it ended up being a

really interesting discussion about

economic boycotts and what you can do."

So, it's a great opportunity to talk to

your kids and your and your spouse or

whoever about the economic choices you

make in life in general. Anyway, to be

clear, the site isn't up today, but uh

but Scott will let us know over the next

couple of days. Um, and we will know

activists around the country are calling

for no work, no school, and no shopping

today on Friday, uh, January 30th,

urging people to stop funding ICE.

There'll be lots of activities like

that. But not just Scott Galloway, the

great economist Scott Galloway, but

Robert Rice is talking about this idea.

It's really catching on the idea of it.

Um, and it's well beyond just a

temporary thing. It's like show you take

a minute and look at your life and what

where you're putting your money and your

money is important. Anyway, I have an

announcement now onto me. Yes.

>> Guess what? We've named my show on CNN

that is coming in the spring. I can't

say the exact day. Well, it's called

Cara Swisser Wants to Live Forever.

>> What do you think?

>> Uh, I think the tagline should be, "Oh,

fuck." [laughter]

>> Is it really Cara Swisser Wants to Live

Forever?

>> It is. It is. It's called Cara Swisser

Wants to Live.

>> What if you have a stroke in the middle

of the night?

>> It's brilliant. Don't you think? That's

what Amanda said. Amanda said that, too.

like she's like, "Oh, well then it would

more people would watch it, right?"

>> I I would I think it should be what if

we live what if we live forever question

mark with Cara Swisser. I would I

wouldn't make it.

>> Oh, well, it's already done. Done. Done

done.

>> Oh, well then I love it. I love it.

>> I [laughter] love it. Anyway, well, let

me just say, let me just very briefly

say for far too long the longevity space

has been captive. This is the idea

behind it of rich tech bros, jack dude

influencers, nonsense sellers of useless

supplements, and some lady who sells

candles that are named after her private

parts. Uh, sorry, Gren, but you started

it. Uh, well, after

>> she's lovely, by the way.

>> I know. I know you talked to her, but

I'm taking I'm there's a new sheriff in

town. After [laughter] enduring endless

conversations over the years, how to

live forever. I can't tell you how many

dinner parties I've been in with tech

bros telling me all manner of things,

none of whom are doctors. I I want in

except I'm going to show you the way for

the rest of us. It will be grounded in

science and facts about the best and

most affordable ways to stay healthy,

happy, and smart. Also, I took ketamine

so you don't have to. And Scott takes a

nap in it, just so you know. That's

that's what's coming for you. So,

>> um, [clears throat] so a couple things.

One, I think the market was screaming

for another person without medical

training to tell us how to live our

lives.

>> Excellent. Uh, [laughter]

>> I think that's what the market was

telling us.

But I talk to experts unlike some of

these people.

>> I talk to experts.

>> I talk to But this the second thing is

an honest question. Say you're not

>> I I'm all over this [ __ ] cuz I have I

now have too much money and too little

time.

>> Never noticed that [clears throat] you

like to focus on your health. And

>> I'm way too into this. And uh so the

question I would have is assume you're

an average income household. You know,

80 90 grand.

>> Yeah. maybe living in a city, maybe

doing a little bit better than that, and

you have insurance, but you don't have a

ton of money to spend on the stuff. What

are the two or three biggest learnings

around changes in lifestyle that you

would recommend to just

>> the average American?

>> I'd be happy to. It's just, you know,

it's only six episodes. Maybe we'll have

another season because there's so much

stuff out there and there's so much bad

stuff, by the way.

>> I was hoping it was five. I'm sorry.

[laughter]

>> Car Switcher wants to live. Yeah,

>> Fisher wants Everyone else wants this

series to [laughter] end.

>> Anyway, um that's okay. You can make fun

of it. I love I love it. Um uh I say I

would say well obviously the main thing

about longevity is don't be poor. Like I

hate to say that, but that's it. It it

matters a lot.

>> Well, that's good advice. That's not

going to make anyone feel bad.

>> But I'm just longevity is now going

>> make more money. That's the same advice

I've gotten from every girl I met at the

Four Seasons Bar. Make more money. So,

one of the main things, oddly enough,

you know, sleep is important, obviously,

diet and and exercise are important. And

there's lots of things, you know, that

everybody understands, fermented foods,

um, uh, stuff like that and eating. Um,

you know, the protein debate has gotten

out of hand. There's too much advice to

eat too much protein, but those are like

around the edges of saving you minutes

of your life. I think one of the things

I took away was one there's amazing

stuff going on around cancer research

using AI cancer and also mobility like

robotic stuff where people are going to

be outfitted and the the addition of AI

is going to change drug discovery cancer

research every it's like astonishing

that is really gene editing all that

stuff is really moving fast and that

will make a big difference in longevity

or at least health span right that

you'll live longer and not die of these

terrible diseases the second one is G

this is the science part GLP-1s Scott I

I think you had one of the early people

to this, but the benefits around uh just

obesity is what

>> I think it's a miracle drug.

>> It's a miracle drug and every doctor we

talked to talked about this and it now

has followon advantages and so you know

in very small amounts too and and that's

>> talk about micro doing people I know I

know a bunch of people do micro doing

GLP-1.

>> Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to start doing

that related to my stroke actually which

is interesting. So um so anyway, so

there's there's there's a lot of around

GLP1's really important and everyone

vaccines and mRNA vaccines. I I know

they're controversial, but they're not.

They're they're they're going to have a

vaccine for cancer. There's that kind of

stuff is really amazing. But I have to

tell you the abs and there's all you

know all that other nonsense, the red

lights, none of that works really. Like

some of the stuff you do doesn't work,

but fine, whatever.

>> Can I go through the stuff I do and you

tell me what you think?

>> Okay. I didn't do everything so I may

not have an answer, but go ahead.

Testosterone therapy

>> probably good for you.

>> This is that thing they did with Peter

Atia. Um, red light. You don't No, you

No,

>> there's no scientific

>> vitamins. A vitamin supplements.

>> Some of them. Some of them and some not.

Like a vitamin D, a vitamin K. Uh, some

of the E super EPA stuff. Yes. Creatine.

Yes. Some of them ridiculous.

>> I do creatine every day.

>> Yeah, creatine is very good. What else?

>> What about um NAD? Either infusions or

the pills? Most people just think

there's no scientific yet yet not not to

push them out. Not to push them out, but

you know, peptides is a big moment here,

but unfortunately a lot of people are

using them uh ineffectively or

dangerously. [snorts]

>> But is there evidence that peptides

might have?

>> We don't know yet. We don't know. Not

yet. Not yet. That's a like there's a

lot of stuff like we'll see. It's just

how you use it and how it's deployed.

Like in the beginning of GLP1s, a lot of

people were getting shitty compounds and

getting really sick, right? So don't do

compounded these things. compounded. So

it's it's a matter of the one that is

keep going. Go ahead. What else?

>> Masturbation. Great.

>> Uh cold sauna or cold plunges or sauna?

>> Sauna. Hot sauna. Yes. Cold plunges.

There's a lot new science show may be

really problematic on people. Although I

know all the bros love it. Um but

there's all these these issues around uh

the shock and and different things. Hot

sauna is absolutely one of the things.

Let me tell you the number one thing

both scientifically and and both

causally and uh correlation is friends

and family

>> 100.

>> I want to I want to come back to that.

So next one getting plowed by six hockey

players and rethinking everything. Just

rethinking everything. Cara [laughter]

is that good for my health.

>> It is good for your health. Just be

careful.

>> Just rethinking.

>> But you you mentioned the one thing the

only thing I would add the the the

absolute key to longevity. You just you

just referenced it. Mhm.

>> key to good health and longevity,

relationships.

>> Relationships 100 a million%. And

related to that is the use of social

media and synthetic relationships. Lack

of friction wrongly. [clears throat]

Lack of friction for your brain. Brain

plasticity. Play games with people. Do

different things. Talk to people you

don't know. It has real health effects.

Argue. You and I are going to live

forever because of our relationship. You

know, I'm just saying that's it was

really surprising. The number one thing

and I'm not trying to be like all be

have be friends. Talk to people you

don't know. Do things that challenge

you. Um be involved in the community.

The more you are in the uh online space

with synthetic relationships, the

quicker you're going to die.

>> Anyway, I interviewed Timothy Snyder

yesterday, the guy who's the protest

expert,

>> and we were talking about and I

challenged him. I said, "Are protests

the new door knockocking?" And that is

they're losing effectiveness. And he

pushed back really solidly. He had a

couple really strong points. He said,

"One, when people organize, it creates

an infrastructure for other activities."

He said, "What's happened in

Minneapolis, people organize and then

they get a database of people, they

figure out how to communicate with each

other, and they've been turning out on a

dime to observe ICE raids. And a lot of

that is because the infrastructure

that's been built through protest." And

he also said something very powerful,

very simple. He said, "You feel better

when you do something with other

people." And it was so simple but so

puncturing. You feel better when you do

something with other people.

>> Yep. And it's good for your health as it

turns out. It's very good for your

health and it's great to bring back

community. And again, neuroplasticity.

Anyway, uh moving on. We've got a lot to

any We're very excited. Scott's site.

What's the name of it again?

>> Resist and unsubscribe or unsubscribe

February. If you like this idea, don't

like and subscribe. Resist and

unsubscribe. And also, please post. I'll

be posting my receipts

>> ideas.

>> Please post your own ideas, your own

receipts. If you've unsubscribed from

Amazon Prime for the month or whatever

it might be, please post it to your

social and try and drive people to the

notion of

>> resist and unsubscribe.

>> Yes, you can do something. And mine is

Cariser wants to live forever.

>> There you go.

>> Only Megan Kelly thinks that's not a

good thing. Anyway, moving on. We've got

a lot to get to today, including big

tech earnings and major social media

trials going on. So, let's dig in. White

House borders are Tom Hman. He of the

Baggo Money just gave a presser in

Minneapolis a little while ago, noting

he's on the ground to quote regain law

and order. It's Tom Tom says he's made a

lot of progress since he got there like

3 days ago. This follows Trump saying he

would deescalate a little bit earlier in

the week, but the violence hasn't

stopped. Uh Representative Ilan Omar was

attacked with an unknown substance at a

town hall on Tuesday. It's the latest

instance against a member of Congress,

Representative Max, while Frost was

physically assaulted at Sundance last

week, and both are Democrats, just so

you know, and quite uh more on the

liberal end of everything. Meanwhile,

the two federal agents who shot at Alex

Freddy have been put on administrative

leave. Border Patrol Commander Greg

Bovino has left Minnesota, but Homeland

Security uh Secretary Christy Gnome is

hanging on to her job for now. She's now

there's a lot of pictures of her her and

a head of lettuce going on three quart

and that there's a lot of infighting in

them in the between and among all those

people. Threearters of House Democrats

are backing her impeachment and a couple

of Republicans in the Senate are calling

for ouster Tom Telis who's leaving

doesn't give a [ __ ] anymore has finally

found his balls. Uh what do you make of

the changing of tact and also note Amy

Clolobashar has just officially

announced her bid for uh Minnesota uh

governor. Your thoughts?

>> Oh, it's interesting. I didn't know that

that Senator Clolobish is running for

governor. I think that's a great idea.

Um I think you know I've called this

before and I've been wrong. I do think

this is a turning point and the

[clears throat]

>> when I was in high school, my mom gave

me a bunch of John Irving books, you

know, the world according to Gar. They

made me just feel a lot better about

myself when I realized everyone else is

[ __ ] up and neurotic and having weird

thoughts

>> and it had a big impact on me. One of

the books that also had a big impact on

me was George Orwell's 1984. I think in

some ways it kind of might be the reason

I kind of went down the progressive

path, but there's a line in there and

I'll get it wrong, but it's basically

and the last act of the government was

to ask us to ignore or deny our our what

we saw and what we heard that basically

all of a sudden the government had gone

to no longer trust your faculties of

observation. Just

>> it was the [clears throat] last and most

important.

>> There you go. Thank you. And you always

have to one up me.

>> I'm just saying I

>> Why does Cash want to live forever?

Anyways, so

>> so I can be with you.

>> But down. Yeah, there you go. Now we're

like that stuff your corpse and have it

next to me like I'll just like a like a

>> I'm doing taxiderermy.

>> Yeah, [laughter] I'm doing taxiderermy.

Go ahead. Go ahead.

>> That moment that literally that quote

just popped into my mind when Christy

Gnome or Secretary Gnome got up. Right.

We generally have these Judeo-Christian

values and I imagine there are also

other other religions. I don't mean to

limit it, but that says when someone

dies, you don't desecrate them.

>> And when she got up and was so

disrespectful of Alex Pratty and then

also claimed he was a domestic

terrorist.

>> Yeah.

>> And that he was there

>> and that he was there to massacre he was

brandishing a weapon and was there to

massacre federal agents.

>> I think that was Steven Miller. That was

a moment where I thought, "Oh my gosh."

I've never seen I've seen people spin

[ __ ] I've seen people exaggerate. I've

seen them lie. But I've never seen the

administration feel confident that it

could just look people in the eyes and

say, you know, ignore your faculties of

observation and trust, [clears throat]

just believe what we say cuz we're

saying it. That for me was that felt

very weird and chilling and like a

turning point. And I think if you look

to Americans's credit, the majority of

people and a lot more Republicans have

said, "Okay, this has just gone too

far." And you know how far it's gone

when all of a sudden when all of a

sudden a guy who took $50,000 in a brown

lunch bag feels like the adult in the

room that people are relieved that he's

there.

>> I know because when he said regain law

and order, I actually think he's

probably talking about the cops

themselves or these these border patrol

people with the masks. Um, I had a, let

me just say, I had a very interesting

discussion with my mom, who of course

I've turned her to CNN because she

decided Caitlyn Collins dresses well and

she likes it and thinks she's adorable.

>> I think that's a good reason to watch

these people.

>> So, uh, one of the things that was

interesting is she she did not like

those things, you know, that and one of

the things that bothered her was the

meanness. It was, even though my mother

can be very mean, um, she didn't love

it. Um, and she one of the things I'll

tell you, she zeroed on the masks. Why

are they why are they wearing masks? And

I said, "No, police don't wear masks."

>> That was the first time judges that put

away cartel.

>> Yeah. She was asking a question, you

know, and I was like, "Well, because

they're private police and they want to

hide." And she's like, "Well, they're

worried about people knowing who they

are." I said, "Yes, because of the

things they're doing." And so, uh, it

was an interesting conversation.

>> Think about how ironic it is. We're now

deploying and coordinating unbelievable

firepower and assets in Iran or in the

Gulf claiming that okay, we need to do

something because the government is

executing people in the street.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, our government is executing people

in the street.

>> That's correct.

>> So that irony granted, it's not on the

same scale, but that irony is not lost

on

>> No. No. Let me point something out.

They're headed to Ohio to do this with

Haitians. Let me They're not stopping.

They raided a an election site, try to

pretend that the election was stolen in

Georgia. Very dangerous. [snorts] Um

they're they're they're going to do this

thing in Ohio. These people aren't going

to stop. I just don't I know we're like

ah finally we've got him. This guy

finally we never get him. Whoever's

controlling him and I think he's not

from what I understand he's doesn't work

very much during the day. Uh someone

high up in the Trump administration told

me he works 5 hours a day. Um, so

they're another 19 hours is someone

else. Um, and so I think that that

they're going to keep going. They're

going to go they have Steven Miller has

no shame and they will go to Ohio. Um,

and and JD Vance has talked about this.

When I think about this on a metal

level, I think about the Trump

administration and MAGA, a key

philosophy or cornerstone is that they

believe if we could just turn back the

clock and go back to ' 50s America where

white people and males were largely in

charge of everything that this would be

a better place. And they're just

uncomfortable with the browning of

America. They're uncomfortable with more

progressive values. They're

uncomfortable with women's rights. And

they just want to take us back. And it's

almost sort of poetic is the wrong word,

but ironic. Renee Good and Alex Pretty.

So, okay, what do we have here? I mean,

it's just so I don't know if you've

noticed this. We have, and I don't want

to be reductive, but I'm going to be

really lovely

gay parents and a male ICU nurse. It's

almost as if they said, "How do we find

what represents the future

and

push back on it in the most heinous way

possible?" I mean, these two people in a

lot of ways and I's ability to sniff out

really good people. There was a story

about Renee Good and her partner

>> the day before circling the school block

two or three times cuz their kid

struggles with social anxiety and waving

at the kid to make the kid feel more

comfortable.

>> The sendoff, the the video you found of

>> of Alex Prey. I mean, this these were

these are really good. They're not only

really good people, but in a weird way,

I look at them and I think that's the

future of America, and that's what MAGA

hates.

>> Well, they will keep going. And let me

just say, they they do in particular,

let's not take the focus, they are they

have been targeting people of color,

like the immigrants who are hardworking.

Uh they're going for the Haitians now.

Um the people they're trying to weed out

are are very hardworking.

>> Well, I think this was accidental or not

strategic. They didn't say go find a

white ICU nurse. Yeah. But doesn't it

find you as is doesn't it strike you as

just very ironic and almost like out of

a play kind of? It

>> it does. The picture that got me the

most was that that kid I think he his

his parents were 5-year-old was just

like his parents are immigrants and

>> uh that got me the most. I have the hat

and then them sitting they're just

they're so um inhuman uh that it's

really the visuals are quite something.

Now, there have been visuals before,

whether it was the attacks during the

civil rights era, if you remember the

dogs and the and the hoses on on people

of color um down in the south or and

then there was, you know, the the

Vietnam photo of the girl running.

>> I was just thinking of that corpse

moment, the one the one the the child

dead on the beach. There's a lot of very

strong. Yeah, there's a lot the this is

coming at you so hard. That's what I was

talking about this week is that um but

speaking of photos and impact, Tim Cook

is finally speaking out in Minnesota

calling for deescalation. Thanks, Tim.

Um it's like as as bland as the quinoa

you enjoy. Um after facing a backlash

for attending the White House, Melania

premiere uh the same day as Alex Prey

the shooting. Um Cook noted in an

internal memo that he had a good

conversation with the president where he

shared his views. Sam Alman also weighed

in telling Open AI that ICE had go was

going too far. I think though he said

President Trump is a very strong leader

and I hope he'll rise to the moment and

unite the country. Both of them had to

compliment Trump and spent very little

time talking about the victims. In fact,

not at all. Um so very uh very I think

weak sauce responses uh from uh and then

and Almanaged to get a slap in at

Zuckerberg at some point in one of his

statements. um talk a little bit about

this because it's I'll tell you

internally at Apple it's crazy. People

are really furious. I can tell you that.

Um from talking to lots of Apple

employees and all levels of this company

and you know I think of all the

companies it's really interesting. Apple

feels the most betrayal if you if you

look online at least and I know that

doesn't represent everything but it

certainly is not a good look for him to

be standing next to Brett Ratner who has

his own issues. Um, and uh, and in a

tuxedo with the white it just the whole

thing. By the way, no one's ever going

to see this. Melania, one of the more

enjoyable things is people showing

pictures of theaters that sold zero

tickets. Um, because Amazon, why aren't

they more mad at Amazon who paid $40

million, spent $35 million marketing

this, and there were two there was

several Amazon executives at the event.

But what do you think about this? I

think we love Apple. That's why, right?

I guess. I don't know.

>> I think Tim Cook is the new Bob Iger.

and that is he's going to take an

incredible career and put a giant, you

know, [ __ ] stick at the end of it. I

there is an unfortunate but necessary

lesson in life around the intersection

between your participation in time and

other people. And that is the last five

minutes are the most important five

minutes. When you're at a party and

you're leaving, do your best to be as

[ __ ] charming as possible and go

around and say hi. And there's that

famous study where they're giving dudes

colonoscopies and one is just 45 minutes

and the other's 50 minutes but the last

five minutes they don't move it around

so it's not as uncomfortable and the men

who had the device inside of them for 50

minutes it was much more pleasant

because all they remember is the last 5

minutes which was not that unpleasant.

When you leave an organization when you

quit or you've been fired you swallow

everything and you could not be more

[ __ ] charming because that is how

they will remember you. Shockingly,

that's how I lead places. But go ahead.

You think I How dare you?

>> Or just on a more serious level, if

you're getting divorced

>> Mhm.

>> do everything you can to be as gracious

and generous as possible on the way out.

Even if it means taking some lumps,

being treated unfairly.

This this is if you've been married 5,

10, 40 years, everyone, your partner,

their parents, your friends, your kids

will remember who was the bigger person.

And Tim Cook, unfortunately, he's been

an amazing CEO. And I also agree

>> from everyone I know that from everyone

I know that knows him, including you, I

don't know them, they say he's a good

man. But here's the thing. This will be

this this small period towards the end

of his tenure where he shows up to the

White House for a ridiculous premiere

where he says he can't wait to spend

time with Melania when he shows up with

a with a a handwritten disc drive and

literally just is a sickopant to the

president and

>> in the statement adding adding the the

president.

>> That's how he's going to be.

Unfortunately,

>> you didn't put that in. Not this time.

That to me I was like, "Oh, come on.

Leave that out that one sentence. I just

talk what was what did you call our

relationship with Apple in that book

when I met you?

>> Uh Google is God. You know you pray to

it ask it for an answer comes back with

something. Amazon is your gut. Never

consumption you know more for less. Uh

Apple is your genitals. When you the

billion people have iOS are the most

attractive potential mates in the world.

It's the most subtle way of saying you

should have sex with me.

>> Well, I would I would argue more so. You

love I love people love Apple like

>> incredible product.

>> No, but they have a relationship with

it. The whole think different they have

marketed to you in a values way, right?

Privacy.

>> He's added more shareholder value than

any individual in history with the

exception of Jensen Hong. And

unfortunately,

>> but I'm just saying people have that's

what people are like why why do you

attack Apple when Meta is I was like

because we don't like him. We like

Apple.

>> Well, this feels like more of a

betrayal. We thought if there was one

person who was going to stand up and say

uh I have been a huge beneficiary of

rule of law and the progress of rights

in America and Apple's been an enormous

beneficiary of competition and rule of

law and what's going on here is directly

contrary to everything that's given me

incredible opportunities and created $4

trillion in shareholder value. We are

not down with this. But instead, he's

like, well, I'd love to hang out with

Melania. Just make sure that we're

exempt from those those China those

pesky China tariffs

>> and deescalate the word. This this

statement was such weak sauce. It was

deescalate. Like I also thought and as

Stephanie Rule actually correctly

pointed out, it was bland. And the one

from the Minneapolis Commerce was like,

let's de let's all get along. I'm like

there's there is a side here and it's

not with the police at this moment or

not the police. The police are doing

great in Minneapolis. It's the um it's

these thugs from from and they have

given Tim Cook and the rest of tech a

very easy way to say how dare you talk

about people like that which you were

just talking about Christine Gnome. They

have gone to a ghoulish place and one

person who did speak out let me just say

Venode Kosla went distel Keith Ra boy

was saying about the shooting who

because Keith was wrong as always. Um,

and he also got into a beef with Elon

Musk, very public about racism, which

was I I'm not surprised Venode is like

that. But like it didn't cost Venode

anything to do that. And Venote and I

don't agree on lots of stuff, right?

Sometimes he says, I'm like, are you

kidding me? But like he was a person,

right? He and this these statements by

Cook and uh and Sam Alman and the rest

of them, they're not you're not people.

Stop acting like you're not people. And

that's like having to throw in President

Trump as a very strong leader or I had a

discussion with President Trump.

How rich do you have to be that you

point of having all this money?

>> What is the point of being this powerful

and having to to be such a just a weak

person and a weak moral person that to

me I just don't understand. People keep

people ask me like what job is safe from

AI and I say I personally think if I

were to bet on one job that's only going

to increase in importance. It's things

around communication, strategic

communications, investor relations, PR.

And the two biggest communications

mistakes of the last probably quarter

happened in the last week. On a

corporate level, whoever the [ __ ] didn't

literally bodyb block Tim Cook from not

only going to that dinner, but but

getting a picture with Brett Ratner. And

I'm not I'm not going to make a judgment

on Brett Ratner's past,

>> but please don't read about it.

>> But that's just not a that's just not a

good look to be at the Melania premiere

taking I mean it's like the any PR

person who has any intelligence in Apple

thought, okay, I'm about to get fired

and I deserve to be fired. And then the

second biggest communications mistake, a

rookie move was for the administration

to create a talking point that, oh, you

show up with a gun, you're looking for

trouble at a protest. And also the NRA

came out and said, "Look," and there's

some data here.

>> If you have the training that uh Alex

Prey had and you have a license to carry

and conceal and you've never committed

so much as a misdemeanor, you're seven

to 10 times less likely to commit a

crime. There is something to the notion

of safe, well-trained, registered, you

know, carry laws. And

the protest is looking to get denying

people's right to

oh

>> he first amendment and now you decide in

one fell swoop to talk about violating

the second amendment claiming that

people that have guns are looking for

trouble and more deserving. The entire

second amendment is meant to prevent

this. we need to arm as a citizenry in

case tyranny takes over from the

government.

>> But that's not what he was even doing.

He wasn't even brandishing the word

brandish. He was brand that I think

gnome said that he was brandishing a

gun. He didn't brandish anything. He

never touched his gun. Brandish

Christie.

>> But that was just such a huge error on

their part cuz quite frankly when the

NRA weighs in and says this is [ __ ]

it becomes a very bipartisan issue.

>> Well, in any case, Tim Cook, bad show.

Bad show all around. I think you should

do an interview with Cara Swisser and

then see if you can make it through

that. Anyway, uh let's go on a quick

break. When we come back, Big Tech goes

to court over addictive products.

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is a really interesting big tech trial

taking place that we haven't really paid

attention to. kicked off in LA this week

where a plaintiff is suing Meta, Tik

Tok, Snap, and YouTube claiming personal

injury through addictive products. This

claims uh features like infinite

scrolling and algorithm recommendations

lead to compulsive use resulting in

problems like depression and anxiety. Um

executives including Mark Zuckerberg are

expected to testify with nine cases

likely to be heard. Tik Tok and Snap

settled with the with the first plaint.

It's kind of a little bit of a big

tobacco moment. I and I know these

trials you never know where they're

going to go, but really people are have

not been paying attention to this trial

and it's in an area you and I talk about

a lot and there's plenty of plenty of

texts back and forth about obsession and

addiction and and there's a lot of

discovery here um that should be really

interest of these executives talking

about what they're doing very similar to

big tobacco. Yeah, we know when they

smoke it they love it. Like we know

they're addicted, that kind of stuff.

And so I think it should be a really re

I mean we know they know this and

someone like Tristan Harris has been

talking about it for years. I've been

talking about it. You've been talking

about it. Um you know and now it's got

to the dangers of suicide with young

people too. So any thoughts?

>> We're going to look back on this era and

decide that letting a 16-year-old on

Snap or on Instagram or on TikTok is

probably more harmful than if we'd let

16-year-olds smoke cigarettes or drink

alcohol. 6% of teens um qualify as being

addicted to drugs or alcohol. 24%

qualify as addicts to social media. And

the heaviest users are twice as likely

to have suicidal intent. They're also

the group in the highest usage are more

likely to express poor body image more

than the lowest use group. The bottom

line this is

to say this is like kids smoking is

unfair to tobacco when I I I mean this

is going to sound I said this and I got

a ton of [ __ ] for it a few years ago and

it was the first time I was featured on

late night TV. Not in a good way. Let's

do it again. Let's say it again.

>> Well, I said I'd rather give my

16-year-old a bottle of Jack and some

weed than

a Tik Tok.

>> Oh, no. I agree with you, but go ahead.

and and they played that and said that

was so ridiculous when I I didn't I hung

out with a Mormon kid all through in a

in a and a a great athlete in high

school and neither of them drank. I

actually think I could have benefited

from easing into alcohol anyways. this

social media that I've said this that

the the thing we're going to regret most

we're going to look back and think how

did we let this happen to our kids and

and even outside of hardcore addiction

I'm not exaggerating 60%

maybe 70% of the family anxiety

my family registers

arguments between me and the kids

arguments between the kids and their

mother arguments between me and their

mother revolve around the [ __ ] ing phone

and social media.

>> I feel you. I feel you, Scott.

>> And when we leave our kid alone and we

go on vacation and we're checking

custodio and he calls us and he's not at

school and we find out he was on social

media all night and and people say,

"Well, that's bad parenting. You're in

control." Yeah. That means you don't

have kids.

>> Exactly.

>> It's not a collective movement. If you

take your kid off a snap, he is then

further depressed because he's

ostracized because this is how these

kids communicate with each other.

>> It needs to be a collective action.

There should be no synthetic

relationship.

>> Collective actions. Can Can I add I have

to say one of the greatest moments my

parenting is when my son without

unbeknownst to me used Amazon to order a

box to put his phone in. Alex did it um

and lock it away to do his homework cuz

it was distracting him. You know what I

mean? like he this when he was in high

school I was really proud of him like he

understood the issue easily and one of

the things that's really hard um is

including for adults I was at one work

meeting and I made everyone put the

phone in the middle of the table it was

very uncomfortable

>> I'm addicted let me be clear I was like

put them in the middle don't touch them

don't touch them like oh I have to my

kid I'm like it'll be fine nobody's

nobody's going to get in an emergency

and if it is I'm sorry in advance but it

probably isn't

Um, it's really hard. And I think what's

going to be interesting here, we have to

move on from this, but let's pay we're

going to pay attention to this trial

because it's really important. But we're

going to read out some of the texts and

emails that these people know exactly

what they're doing and they they they

relish it. They relish the hold they

have on people. They relish the hold

they have on teens and they are very

aware just like big tobacco of what

they're up to here and no matter what

they say in public. And so that will be

stuff. We'll be doing dramatic readings

of that. All right, Scott, let's go to

on a quick break. When we come back,

we'll talk big tech earnings.

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Scott, we're back with more news. The

S&P 500 crossed the 7,000 mark for the

first time ever on Wednesday ahead of

major tech earnings. Tech, of course,

fueled it. Let's walk quickly through

the results. Meta posted a strong

quarter uh with fourth quarter sales up

24% year-over-year. That's really

impressive. His AI spending spree

continues with a projected capex of up

to 135 billion in 2026. Probably a lot

of that will be dedicated hopefully to

advertising for them because that's

where they'll get the most bang for

their buck. [snorts] Uh Microsoft also

shows no sign of pulling back on AI,

spending $ 37.5 billion on capex in the

latest quarter. Uh 66% increase from

last year. The picture was less rosy for

Tesla, which reported uh a 61% drop in

net income for the quarter, down 46% for

the year. The stock is still soaring

inexplicably. Tesla is also scrapping

the Model S and X cars using the factory

space to build robots. He's going all in

on robots. I one thing I say about him,

he's when he goes for it, he goes for

it. and I've heard is some of his

robotic stuff is very impressive, but

nonetheless, he's betting the farm on

it. Again, it's investing about $2

billion in XAI. The combination of

robotics and XI and X, excuse me, um AI

to me is really important. I've talked

about this before. Um also, there's

layoffs at Amazon and related to AI and

Pinterest, very large layoffs. Uh

they're all sort of using AI to to to

cut labor costs. Um what jumps out at

you the most? Well, I think AI is going

to add a lot of shareholder value, but

not where we think it's going to add the

most value. I think the AI native

companies are overvalued right now. I

think the invi Nvidia, the open AI, the

anthropics of the world are probably

overvalued. Where I do think you'll see

an increase in shareholder value is the

application of it, specifically

autonomous. I think Whimo is going to be

a trillion dollar company on its own. um

targeting of ads and and making the

consumer experience better and creating

a better advertising stack. I gotta be

honest, I think I think um I think

Instagram and threads get better every

day. I think they're fantastic. I think

the consumer experience and also

>> so does Gemini on Google, by the way.

I've done a little poking around around

how an advert I just don't see why I I I

can't imagine what it's like to be

selling ads for MSNBC right now when the

person the person from Meta or Google

show up and show and show you what they

can do. Oh, you're targeting kids who

just got their driver's licenses in

Montlair, New Jersey. No problem. We can

reach them one at a time at scale

>> with perfect ads that are help

>> at the right moment. it ends up people

want to buy life insurance uh and you

know at 700 p.m. right after I mean they

just anyways um uh so Meta's earnings

incredible revenue up 24% yearonear

>> it's a big company

>> and not only that their employee base

wasn't up 24% I don't have the number

but I think it was barely up

>> and then

>> Microsoft

>> um

the one that was down six or 7% they

were up 7% the one that was down was

Microsoft because uh Azure didn't let up

its cloud company didn't um uh it had

growth of 39% which still topped analyst

expectations but unfortunately the new

expectations is that you blow away

expectations

um u but still Azure cloud computing the

demand is so great that Microsoft's

backlog of commercial bookings were up

110% to 625 billion there's some

concerns about over reliance on open AI

where as a whopping 45% of this backlog

is attributed to their core of a

trillion dollar agreement they made in

October. And also its gross margins

because of the increase in capex is the

lowest it's been in 3 years coming in

around 68% which spooks some people.

Tesla I can't even I can't even begin to

understand what the [ __ ] is going on

there. I think this this stock should be

down 90%. It's become a meme stock. It's

that's all I have heard I I suspect he's

just decided cars aren't the way to do

it and that he has some advantages in

robotics and several people have who

have called me recently and said

actually he's doing a lot of really

innovative stuff around robotics. It's

just he's bedding the farm on that

everyone wants to have an Optimus robot

in their house, I guess. But who knows?

>> But it's a I'm sorry. Go ahead, T.

>> He's done it before. Like that's the

only thing I would say, but he hasn't

shown. The other thing he's done before

is say we're going to land on Mars.

We're going to He makes promises he

never his mouth makes promises he can't

keep in in reality. So the question is

like getting rid the Model S and X cars

were made by Rivian and Lucid and and

and the Chinese, right? He's gotten out

of this business. He's not in the car

business anymore, it seems like. And so

the question is, can this robotics

business meet the challenge? We'll see.

>> Well, to be fair, they did beat

expectations, but let's talk about what

those expectations were.

>> The revenues are down of all the

companies we talk about. No one no one

is down. my you know what Met is up 23%.

Um and then overall a horrific quarter

their operating margins and that is the

amount of money you get to hold on to

was 7.2%

in last year in the same quarter this

year was down to 46%. That's like a

that's a meltdown. Their free cash flow

decreased 30%. Their gap net income

decreased 61%. They realized

>> they got a half a billion dollars in

automotive regulatory credits that are

going to be running out thanks to the

big beautiful bill.

>> People still believe in him. They're

giving him money for X. I think he's

going to merge it into XA. Like I keep

saying,

>> he's now using Tesla as kind of

nutrition for XAI. They disclosed that

Tesla invested 2 billion in Musk's

company XAI.

So this is, you know, and he's needs a

new vision, a new distraction, and as

you said, he's gone all in on Optimus,

which I think is going to compete with

the Cybert truck and the Segway and the

Palm is the biggest flops in history. Or

maybe the mixed reality headset.

>> Yeah.

>> The other thing that struck me was the

layoffs in Amazon.

>> Yeah.

>> And that is they by the way

>> 16. Yeah. But it's for different

reasons. Pinterest is doing it because

Pinterest is [ __ ] in subscale. I like

Pinterest. I like the people there. It's

subscale. it's going to have a very

difficult time. Um, Amazon laid off

16,000 people in their corporate

workforce, which doesn't sound like a

lot because they employ 1.6 million

people, but the majority of those people

are in their factories. This is probably

close to 10% of their corporate staff.

And this really is I've said for a long

time that AI is corporate ompic. All

these guys are going, you know, I mean,

Amazon has said they're going to double

their topline retail revenue in the next

five to seven years without a single

increase in the number of headcount.

That's AI. And then also I think the

place and Amazon's my big tech stock

pick for 26

the the collision and you've referenced

this of AI industrialized robots of

which Amazon has a million

industrialized robots and the total

number of industrial robots in America

outside of Amazon is 400,000.

So they have gone just as Musk is going

allin on robots no [ __ ] sense.

Amazon, Jaffy and Bezos are going all in

on AI driven industrialized robots.

>> They were there before. They bought a

company called KA many years ago. But

just so you know, recent Amazon layoffs

plus October layoffs is 10% of the

company. It's it's a pre they had one.

>> Oh, is it? Thank you. Yeah.

>> But UPS cut 30,000 jobs. I mean, these

guys

>> are

>> industrial robotics. That's AI. I

interviewed David Solomon from Goldman

Sachs on Prog and he said uh I mean I

they're planning to grow their revenue

substantially in the next two or three

years. Goldman's in a great spot right

now. Great leadership. They're doing

well. Uh but he admitted employment will

begin to flatten. You know, no CEO is

going to come out and say I'm going to

reduce 10 or 20% of my workforce, right?

No, they can't say that because then

everyone the best people start leaving.

But what he did say is it's going to

flatten. So what we're looking at here,

>> black is the new up,

>> right? But what this takes their

earnings and absolutely makes them go

crazy. And then when these companies do

well, everyone, you know, the S&P does

well because the S&P is now kind of the

SM, you know, the it's not the S&P 500,

it's the S&P 10. Anyways, these

companies on the whole continue to just

be extraordinary. And that is until this

movement called resist and unsubscribe

came along. Testicles meet Foot. One

more quick break. This is absolutely

true. O corporate ompic, take it away.

All right, Scott. One more quick break.

We'll be back for predictions.

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Okay, Scott. Uh, you want to go first or

shall I? No, you're gonna go. You're

gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm going to

make one quick prediction, okay? If you

don't mind. The Super Bowl is just a few

weeks away. Um, and go uh Seahawks. Um,

but I've already uh have a prediction

for the best ad. Lady Gaga, did you see

that? Singing Mr. Rogers Beautiful Day

in Your Neighborhood in an ad for Red

Fin and Rocket Mortgage. I don't really

care about the ad, but they they

released a teaser clip and she sounds

amazing.

>> She's got an incredible voice.

>> Oh, it's going to be the best ad. I'm

going to We'll talk about the ads later

cuz that's

>> That was not the prediction I was

expecting.

>> Okay.

>> It's very similar to mine in that is

we're about to uh engage in military

strikes against Iran. So, very similar

predictions.

>> Yeah. Okay. Lady Gaga. Okay.

>> It's just so strange that the Epstein

files are now a distraction for me. It's

like the behavior keeps getting more and

more depraved that we have to

>> say they're the safest thing in America

is are the Epstein files, but go ahead.

>> No, I I I've made this prediction before

and I'm just making it again. It feels

like I follow this I love this guy the

Gioar on Tik Tok and there's I mean I'm

f I'm sold I'm just fascinated with

military equipment and it just it

appears that all our assets are being

coordinated in the Gulf for a pretty

obvious reason and I don't know if Trump

is doing it for the right or the wrong

reasons maybe as a distraction but I

think he absolutely loves the Tarzan

flex of of leveraging the best

organization in history and that's the

military and it appears to me that they

are absolutely even the planes that

deploying to the area are like giant gas

stations in the sky.

>> Um I think Israel's on board because I

think they think it would be good for

their brand. So I think you're going to

see a coordinated some sort of

coordinated strike in Iran in the next 7

to 14 days. And that's

>> I think you're going to see a

coordinated strike against Ohio or

wherever they're going to attack the

Haitians who are not eating the cats and

dogs. That's where I think you're going

to see the next strike.

>> Do you think so? You you don't think

they're going to pull back at all?

>> No.

>> Yeah, you're probably right.

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