Debunking Science Influencers' Claims on IQ
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There's so much misinformation out there
about intelligence. So today we're going
to be debunking claims on YouTube about
IQ and intelligence. We're going to look
at what's really true. This video is
from Sihow Psych, which is a Hank Green
channel with 860,000 subscribers. They
do a lot of content about psychology.
People love to bring up how Einstein had
a genius level IQ of 160. And to join
Mensah, you need to have an IQ of at
least 130.
>> Yeah, it's funny. So many people think
that Einstein had an IQ of 160. This
idea is actually a little bit silly
because as far as anyone knows, Einstein
never took an IQ test and we can't just
say because he was a great genius who
developed all these really fascinating
and important ideas in physics that he
necessarily had an IQ of 160. There are
many different things that go into
creative success. Einstein had these
incredibly profound and important
theories of physics and the fact that he
was able to produce that does imply that
he was probably incredibly intelligent.
But intelligence is not the same as IQ
and we actually don't know his IQ score.
IQ is a measure of intelligence. And we
can't just say because he graded these
great theories, he necessarily had an
extremely high IQ. But is IQ even a good
way to measure intelligence? Well, that
depends on how you define intelligence.
IQ scores may be a useful shortorthhand
to talk about education strategies for
big groups of people like when
discussing public policy. But IQ can be
affected by a lot of factors, even
things as subjective as your motivation
while taking the test. Yeah, it's
absolutely true that your motivation
taking a test can affect your IQ scores.
This is a source of variability where a
test will always depend on how hard you
try. If you don't try at all, you're
probably not going to do very well. So,
this doesn't make the idea of a Q
invalid. It just means it's a source of
noise in IQ testing. IQ tests will be
limited in their ability to measure
people's actual IQ scores based on
whether people try during the test. But
psychologists seem to agree that one
thing that seems to help people with
learning and academic achievement is
thinking about intelligence as a thing
that can change. What he's talking about
here is the idea of growth mindset,
which is essentially the view that you
can always improve your abilities at
anything. So suppose you do badly on a
test. If you have a growth mindset,
you'll think, well, next time I can work
harder, I can learn the subject better,
and therefore do better at the test. On
the other hand, if you have a fixed
mindset, you'll just think, well, this
test shows how good or bad I am at the
subject. since I did bad, it means I'm
bad at the subject and therefore I'm
going to be doomed to do badly in the
future as well. And there's a lot of
research that suggests it is a bit
helpful to have a growth mindset. When
you randomize people and teach them
about growth mindset, they do tend to do
a little bit better in certain ways. So,
it's a useful mindset to have. That
being said, it's important to
distinguish between things we can
improve at and things we can't. No
matter how much growth mindset you have,
it's not going to make you taller.
However, you can improve your muscle
growth. So, growth mindset about how
strong you are, that makes a lot of
sense. And so it's important to
distinguish there's some things that we
have control over and some things that
we don't. And having a growth mindset
about the things we do have control over
can be very valuable. This video is from
the very popular YouTube channel
Veritasium. They have almost 20 million
subscribers.
>> Tomorrow I'm going to do an IQ test for
real. Before I do that, I want to try to
improve my score and so I'm going to try
to do a whole bunch of practice tests. I
think this test is trainable, but
tomorrow we're going to see whether
that's true or not.
>> So are IQ tests trainable? It's a really
interesting question. If you take any
specific type of question on an IQ test,
for example, vocabulary questions or
puzzle solving questions, you'll find
that you can actually improve at them
through practice. If you do a whole
bunch of those questions, especially if
you kind of break down the mistakes you
made, you can get better at them. Does
that mean that IQ is trainable, though?
And the research is really interesting
on this. It finds that while you can
improve at any specific type of IQ
question, what you don't find is strong
generalization to other types of IQ
questions. So generally an IQ test will
have a wide variety of types of
intelligence tasks on them. And getting
better at one type of task tends to not
lead to improvements at other types of
tasks. So it's a tricky question. Yes,
you can get better at IQ tests. If you
practice whatever types of questions are
on that test, but that doesn't
necessarily mean you're raising your IQ
because if you go to another IQ test
that just happens to use different types
of questions, it won't generally make
you better at it. There's actually a
really interesting example of this from
the academic literature. A researcher,
Anders Ericson, was studying working
memory and he had people try to remember
digits. And he had one study participant
in particular who started with an
ability to remember about seven digits
at a time, which is very normal, very
typical. But over 2 years, he had this
person do hundreds of sessions where
they had to try to remember digits.
Well, by the end, this person was able
to remember something like 80 digits at
a time, which is way beyond what normal
people are able to do. And it wasn't
because this person had an incredible
IQ. It was because they practiced and
practiced and practiced and their brain
invented strategies for getting better
and better at remembering digits. And I
think this is a really important thing
to understand about intelligence. You
can get better at any aspect of
intelligence that you want that you want
to practice. Go pick that particular
task, practice it, break down your
mistakes, and you'll get better and
better and better. But that's different
than saying you're improving your IQ.
They're simply improving their ability
at that type of task. This is a YouTube
short about IQ that has almost 10
million views. The person with the
highest IQ of all time could at 18
months read through newspapers and at 5
years old calculate the day of any date
in the past 10 years. He got into
Harvard University at 11 years old and
could speak 25 languages. His name is
William James Situs and he is estimated
to have had an IQ of 275.
>> So notice I use the word estimated. So
Situs never took an IQ test as far as
anyone's aware. I don't even know that
IQ test existed at the time. And in
fact, he was born just before 1900 and
IQ testing was very early and there's no
way he took a valid IQ test that could
measure his IQ at that level. In fact,
if today someone claims they took an IQ
test with their IQ greater than 160, you
should be very skeptical because most IQ
tests don't even measure IQ's above 160
reliably. The reason for this is that if
you have extremely high IQ, you will
tend to get all or almost all questions
right on a standard IQ test, which means
that you can't tell how good people are
because if they max out all the answers,
well, you can't tell the difference
between someone with very high IQ and an
extremely extremely high IQ. You have to
actually develop special tests to even
measure IQ's that high. Most tests are
not equipped to do this. And what's so
ridiculous about this claim is that
funnily enough, if IQ were normally
distributed if it follows a bell curve,
as many people believe, then an IQ this
high should actually essentially never
happen in the history of the world. Not
even close. Situs, I'm sure, was a very
smart person. He was a child prodigy,
but he doesn't have an IQ this high. And
in fact, if we think about the highest
IQ person in the world, there's a very
high likelihood that that person never
got an IQ test and that nobody knows who
they are. It's probably some random
person who went about and lived their
life. They may not have ever discovered
the theory of relativity or anything
like that. Maybe they were really good
at their job. Maybe they did really
interesting things, but chances are they
never had an IQ test and nobody's ever
heard of them. This video is from the
Jubilee channel. They have 10 million
subscribers and they like to do a lot of
social experiments. In this case, they
have people rank their own and other
people's intelligence.
>> Why don't you guys rank each other from
1 to six, including yourself, and give
reasons why you want to do what you're
doing?
>> Got to go one.
>> No.
>> Oh, yeah. Two. Three. four, five,
[music] six.
>> So, one thing that's happening here is
that they're ranking each other based on
intelligence. Intelligence is a broad
concept and different people are going
to use that phrase in different ways.
For example, some people might emphasize
social skills more in their definition
of intelligence. Other people might
think, well, social skills are not about
intelligence. Intelligence is about
abstract reasoning or logic or something
like that. So, there's an inherent
ambiguity in these rankings.
>> 1 2 3
4 5 6. So, one thing that's interesting
here is they're actually having to rate
their own intelligence. And we actually
did some research on this and we found
some really fascinating findings. So,
this is our site personality map where
we make available over a million
correlations about humans. And you can
actually go sign up and you can search
it. You can find all the different kinds
of things about how human traits are
related to other human traits. We
actually collected data on people's
overestimation of their own IQ. We had
them estimate what IQ percentile they
are and then we actually measure their
IQ percentile and we look at the
difference between those. And it's
really interesting to look at what
predicts people overestimating their IQ.
We first have a bunch of variables
related to just performance. And that
makes a lot of sense because of what's
known as the Dunning Krueger effect.
It's well known that people with higher
IQs tend to underestimate their IQ and
people with lower IQs tend to
overestimate it. And so that's kind of
the first factor we find here. But it's
funny because we also find another
factor here. We also find this other
interesting factor which is narcissism.
The more narcissistic people are, the
more they tend to overestimate their IQ.
This video is a clip from the show Adam
Ruins Everything by Adam Conover.
>> We think IQ tests are objective
evaluations of our mental abilities, but
in reality they are deeply biased and
controversial tools that might not
predict intelligence at all.
>> You know, it's interesting might not
predict intelligence at all. I mean that
statement might is doing a lot of work
there. But I think almost any way you
measure intelligence, you'll find that
IQ is at least correlated with it. That
being said, people can define
intelligence differently. Okay. So, not
everyone's going to agree on what is
intelligence exactly. And the
correlation between IQ and intelligence
will depend on how you choose to define
intelligence.
>> Nope. The only thing IQ tests tell you
is how good you are at IQ test.
>> That's definitely not true. I mean,
people have studied what IQ tests
predict and they predict a wide range of
different things. They to some extent
predict income. They predict education,
grades in school. So, yeah, IQ tests
definitely don't just measure what's on
an IQ test. That's the whole point. If
they just did that, they would be
useless. If you look at any research,
you'll find immediately that they do
predict a wide range of things. And in
fact, the whole idea of an IQ test is
that it's designed to be one number that
predicts performance across a wide range
of tasks. That is literally how you
measure IQ. You give people a range of
intelligence tasks that are different
from each other and you look for the
single number that predicts across them
as well as possible.
>> Early tests focus almost entirely on
concepts that only rich white folks
would know.
>> That can't be true. Well, I'm not rich
and I can answer these questions.
Describe everything required by a riata.
>> Well, there absolutely are ways of
measuring IQ that are extremely biased.
Right? If you ask for factual knowledge
that tends to be cultural, then you're
going to find that some people will
perform better because of their cultural
background. There have been attempts to
try to make tests that are less
culturally based. For example, the
Ravens Progressive Matrices test. What
it does is it shows you nine boxes and
eight of them are filled in with symbols
and you have to try to guess what the
next symbol is, what the ninth symbol
is, essentially looking for the pattern.
And the idea here is well that doesn't
depend on knowledge about the world.
That might be cultural. However, it
could still be a bit problematic because
if you grew up in a culture where you
tend to do tasks of that type, even if
it's not exactly the same, you'll have
more practice where if you come from a
culture where you've never seen anything
like that before, then you'll have more
of a disadvantage of doing that kind of
task. This video is from Brainy Dose.
They have 2.4 million subscribers.
>> Have you ever encountered someone who
really wanted everyone to [music] think
they were smart? And whether they were
using big words or just flaunting their
nerdy hobby, it was quite obvious that
they weren't as bright as they tried to
appear. While smart individuals are more
likely to believe that they aren't
particularly smart.
>> So that's actually false. people who are
well at least if we think of IQ as a
measure of intelligence. People with
higher IQs do tend to believe they have
high IQs. So there is a link between
having a high IQ and believing you have
a high IQ. I think a lot of times people
get confused about this because they
think about things like the Dunning
Krueger effect which is that people with
higher IQs tend to underestimate their
IQ which is true. So higher IQ people do
tend to think they have higher IQs but
they also tend to underestimate their
IQ. Both of those things are true
simultaneously. So as we can see in this
chart for example the blue line here the
trend line does go up. People with
higher measured IQ do assess their IQ as
being higher. Not by a lot, but they do
assess it as higher. So higher IQ people
do think they have higher IQs on
average, but they also tend to
underestimate their IQs. I hope you
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This video debunks common myths about IQ and intelligence found on YouTube. It clarifies that Einstein's IQ is unknown and likely not 160, as IQ is a measure, not the sole determinant of genius. The video explains that while IQ tests can be a shorthand for educational strategies, they are influenced by factors like motivation and may not capture the full spectrum of intelligence. A growth mindset, the belief that abilities can be developed, is presented as beneficial for learning and academic achievement, though it cannot alter fixed traits like height. The video further discusses the trainability of IQ tests, concluding that while specific question types can be improved with practice, this doesn't necessarily generalize to a higher overall IQ or other types of intelligence. It highlights the case of William James Sidis, whose extraordinary abilities were attributed to practice and strategy development rather than an exceptionally high IQ. The video also addresses the unreliability of extreme IQ scores (above 160) due to test limitations and statistical improbability. Finally, it touches upon the subjectivity of intelligence definitions and the Dunning-Kruger effect, noting that while higher IQ individuals tend to underestimate their IQ, narcissism can lead to overestimation. The video concludes by emphasizing that IQ tests, despite potential biases and controversies, do show some correlation with outcomes like income and academic performance, and that they are designed to predict performance across a range of tasks, not just performance on the test itself.
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