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Most of my friends are single and most

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of them are having such a hard time

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finding like a good man.

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>> Meet Isabelle. She's from Canada and has

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been living in Serbia for almost 5

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years. Here she runs her copyrightiting

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business and creates content about her

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life in the country. She shared why

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dating in Serbia is hard for women, how

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Serbian families raise boys and girls

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[music] with very different

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expectations, and why she felt safe in

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Serbia from the very first day. Enjoy.

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So, you came to Serbia. Mhm.

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>> What was your first impressions?

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>> My first impression was I got in a cab

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to go to my Airbnb and the cab driver

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didn't know where I was going. Like,

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just kind of got in the cab and just

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started driving around. The language was

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absolutely insane. I didn't understand

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him. He didn't understand me. And I just

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remember that we were like driving down

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a one-way street in Doril and he

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realized that he had gone the wrong way.

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So instead of like taking a little

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roundabout way, he literally just put

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the car in reverse and like started

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backing up like two blocks down a

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one-way street. And I was like, "This is

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a little crazy." And then beyond that,

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my first impression was just like so

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safe. So safe and so lively. Like the

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first night that I went out here, I just

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remember feeling very inspired and like

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open. And there was just a very like

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captivating energy in the city. I don't

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know how else to describe it, but I just

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felt very safe walking around.

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>> It was uh first night you felt it.

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>> Yeah. I think a big part of it, so I was

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actually in Canada like a couple months

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ago, and one of the big differences

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between Canada and Serbia is that in

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Canada there's like nobody out. You can

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be out for a walk at 7:00 p.m. and the

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streets are just like empty. So there's

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very much so this feeling of like you're

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just kind of moving through the world

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alone and whatever happens in the

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environment around you, you're just kind

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of like a victim to. But in Serbia, it

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doesn't matter like what time you're

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walking around. In my neighborhood, I'll

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go out at 10:00 p.m. and there's like

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kids out in the street playing

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basketball. Like there's just so many

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people out and about all the time. So I

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think there's this general feeling of

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people being around and people looking

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out for you. It's very lively. you know,

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if somebody came up to attack you, you

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can see 10, 15 people around you right

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now. It's not like you're going to be

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alone, trapped on the street or

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something. And the other thing is just

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like there's not like homeless drug

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addicts just everywhere on the street.

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Like I was living in Vancouver before

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this and it's absolutely like such a

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stunning city, but they just have such

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an issue with like drug addiction and

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homelessness. You never know the kind of

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person that you're going to come across

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and what mental state that they're going

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to be in. And you just don't really have

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that here. There's not people that are

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wandering the street mentally ill.

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People just feel like safer and more

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normal, which I I could sense like

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literally as soon as I got here.

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>> You are living in Novi Belgrade. Do you

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like this architecture?

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>> It's not my favorite. I would say the

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thing that makes New Belgrade nice is

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definitely the parks and the open

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spaces.

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>> Um the buildings aren't necessarily the

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most beautiful part of this part of the

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city. Yeah.

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>> What is your favorite part of the city?

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>> Honestly, this area. I love it. Like I

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love being so close to the river.

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>> Um, it's just very like cute. Lots of

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families around, not too much traffic,

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not people like honking at each other. I

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like going into the center of the city

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and doing what I'm doing. Go to a cafe,

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meet up with friends, whatever. And then

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I love crossing the bridge at the end of

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the day to leave the city and come back

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to New Belgrade because I'm also so

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close to Adameita and Adisagalia. So

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it's really easy for me to like take my

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scooter, take a little boat across the

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river and go to the lakes and stuff like

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that.

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>> So you are dating Serban guy?

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>> I am. Yeah.

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>> How it's for you as a Canadian woman to

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date a Serban guy? Obviously, me and my

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boyfriend have some differences because

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like he's Serbian, I'm Canadian, but

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it's so strange finding somebody that

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lives on the other side of the world,

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but is basically like the same person.

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Like I feel like he's the male version

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of me. We have so many similarities and

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like in how we think, in our values, in

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how we see the world.

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>> Do you have some differences?

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>> I would say the biggest differences is

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like related to like food is like a big

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one. Um I don't know like for example

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like panita to me French toast is

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supposed to be sweet. I'm going to have

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French toast with maple syrup. He's

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going to have panita with like cold cuts

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and feta cheese and stuff like that. So

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I feel like constantly when we're eating

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or like for him like a really delicious

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breakfast is like tomatoes from his

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garden and like peppers and cold cuts

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and like cheese and stuff like that.

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It's just so weird. I'm like I'm getting

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used to having like a more saltier

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breakfast now. But for me, breakfast was

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always more of like a sweet thing. So, I

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feel like there's those little

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differences there. And beyond that,

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honestly, I think when we first started

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dating, the biggest issue that we had

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was like going back to the family thing.

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It was so difficult for me to

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try and integrate myself into a family

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that I felt was already so close-knit.

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Cuz I'm not from a family that's very

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close. Like when I moved to Serbia, my

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dad like it took him a year and a half

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to download Telegram so that we could

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like stay in touch with each other. He

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is very much so like you're off doing

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your thing, I'm off doing my thing. But

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with his family, like they call each

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other every single day. He's constantly

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going home for family lunches. Him and

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his sister like own property together.

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Like it's very very in mesh. When me and

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him first started dating, I think to a

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certain degree I felt threatened and I

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felt like there wasn't enough space for

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me as the partner to come into his life

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because it was already so full with his

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family. So I think that navigating those

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familial relationships and also like

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he's had to create stronger boundaries

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with his family as well because he's not

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the little brother or like the son that

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can just be called upon 24/7. he's not

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going to be at home. Like he was living

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at home before we started dating and

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moved in together. A lot of different

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expectations and boundaries kind of had

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to be put in place as we started to

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navigate our relationship and as we

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started to me and him are now like we

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have our family. So he has his family

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and his relationships, but now we have

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our relationship as well. So just

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learning how to create space for

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everything.

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>> How did you meet if it's not a secret?

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Have you ever been to the cafeteria on

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Kayapetra?

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>> Yeah.

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>> It's the cafeteria that has like four or

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five floors. Yeah. Like super tall. And

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so at the second last floor, there's

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that really big table. He was sitting at

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that table and I was sitting at that

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table because we both work remote and he

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had to go to the bathroom. And so he's

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like, "Oh, can you watch my things while

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I go to the bathroom?" And I was like,

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"Yeah, of course." So, we went to the

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bathroom, came back, and I thought that

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he was trying to like chat me up. So, I

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thought that he would come up to me

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afterwards and like have a conversation

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with me, but he literally just like sat

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down, sat down. He's like,

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and just kept [laughter] on working. But

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I thought he was cute. So, when I was

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done working, I went up to him and I'm

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like, "So, like, have you been here

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before? Do you come here to work very

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often?" And then we just started

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chatting and things just kind of went

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from there. Yes.

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Hi, baby. So, this is Blackie cuz she's

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black obviously. And then the orange and

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white one is mascara cuz she kind of has

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like it looks like black around her

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eyes. In the evening, there's another

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lady named Snea that feeds the cats

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every night at 7:30. And in the evening,

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there will be like 10 cats here.

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>> 10 cats?

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>> Yeah. cuz they all know. They know what

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time to come here to get food. They're

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so funny. They act like they're

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starving, but they get a literal feast

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every day. Two times a day.

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>> Okay.

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>> What do you think about dating scene in

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Serbia overall?

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>> This is something that might get some

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negative comments on this video, but I

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think in general right now it's hard for

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women to date. Serbian sons and their

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mothers have a very like strange

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relationship. Um, I've heard before the

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saying that in Serbia, the daughters are

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raised and the sons are loved. And you

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can really feel that. So, there's really

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high expectations on the women of how

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they're going to show up and being

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strong, being independent, working,

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cleaning the house, making sure that

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there's a five course meal, making sure

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that the kids are taken care of. And the

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sons, it's like, you're such a good boy.

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Like, you can do no wrong. So many

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Serbian women that are dating say that.

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They say that it's really difficult to

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find a man who's like in his masculine

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because the moms just really baby their

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sons. So the women know how to do a lot.

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They know how to run the household and

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work hard and blah blah blah blah blah.

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But the sons were more like, "Oh, you

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don't have to cook. Oh, when they're

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done eating, it's like don't stand up

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from the table. Like I'll get the dishes

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for you. Do you want me to bring you

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dessert? Oh, you can go and relax. We're

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going to clean up and stuff like that."

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>> Why do you think so? Do you have

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explanation for this? If I had to guess,

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I would maybe say that it's because uh

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Serbia has such a history of war. So, I

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think that there's been so much loss.

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So, there's this deeper appreciation and

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like this kind of like holding on to

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where it's like if you have your son

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like take care of him while you can cuz

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you don't know what's going to happen.

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Whereas, I think that there was a lot of

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pressure put on the women to be able to

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take care of the house and to be able to

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do all the things. I have a lot of like

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empathy and compassion for Serbians and

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how they relate to each other and how

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they move through the world because I do

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think that there's a lot of trauma. You

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know, if you think about it, the

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Serbians that are like in my generation,

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like every Serbian that is living here

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right now has either a parent or a

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grandparent that was in some sort of

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war. So, it's like it doesn't matter.

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It's that kind of stuff doesn't

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disappear in a generation or two. Of

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course, you're still going to feel the

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repercussions of that in how people move

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through the world. My boyfriend, for

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example, he was born in Croatia. His

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family is Serbian, but he was born in

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Croatia, and in the '9s, they were

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refugees. They had to leave Croatia.

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They left their home. They left all of

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their belongings, and they had to flee

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to Serbia in like a day. So, like, of

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course, his parents are going to be

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traumatized. Of course, my boyfriend is

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going to have some level of trauma from

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that experience as well. Most of my

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friends are single and most of them are

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having such a hard time finding like a

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good man. And I don't think that that's

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only in Serbia. I think that that's like

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a worldwide issue right now.

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>> Really?

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>> Yeah. Absolutely. So, I think that women

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have worked really hard to have good

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careers, to be in good shape, to go to

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therapy, to have healthy communication,

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to have strong relationships with their

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family and friends. And I think that men

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just haven't put in the same level of

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work and they aren't showing up in their

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masculine. Like I think that a lot of

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men are showing up very in their

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feminine but then also expecting women

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to show up in their feminine. And it's

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like that's not possible. You can't have

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a girl that's working a 9 to5, coming

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home, cooking you dinner every day,

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that's cleaning the house, that's taking

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care of the kids, that's doing all of

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these things and then expect her to be

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like, "Hi honey, how are you? How was

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your day?" It's like she's working. This

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girl is she's working. She's hustling.

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She's not in her feminine. She's in her

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masculine. And I think that a lot of

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women because they're able to exist on

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their own so well and take care of their

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own things that it's like unless there's

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a man that's really adding to their

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life, they're just going to be single

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and hang out with their girlfriends and

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like work their good job. And like

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unless a man is really bringing a lot to

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the table, I think women would rather

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stay single. I'm really lucky. Like I

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met my partner maybe 6 months after I

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moved here and he's like such a good

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man. Like very like just takes care of

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things. Very in his masculine. Allows me

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to feel very taken care of and in my

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feminine. Um and a lot of my girlfriends

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are just like I'm jealous. It's hard to

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find a guy like that. So I can't really

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say firsthand if that's what's going on

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because I've been with my partner for 4

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years now and that's not the

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relationship that I have with him at

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all. But speaking from the experience of

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my girlfriends that are talking about

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their dating experiences,

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that's what I think. That's what I hear.

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>> Do you have some difficulties

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communication wise? You are speaking in

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English with each other. Yeah,

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>> always English. His English is like

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perfect. Like he speaks literally

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perfect English. I wouldn't even

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consider him to have like a very thick

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Serbian accent. And our communication I

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would say is like that was the thing

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that immediately like solidified us is

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we just like we think the same way, we

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speak the same way, we have a very deep

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understanding of each other and give

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each other like a lot of grace and

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compassion. If there's ever been one

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thing that is very easy for us, it's

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like communicating and making sure that

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we understand each other, which I'm

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grateful for. I don't know if I could

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date somebody that doesn't speak good

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English. If it was constantly like lost

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in translation, I think I would find

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that so difficult.

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>> Okay, let's speak about Serban language.

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Do you learn?

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>> I'm trying to learn Serbianski.

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I've been here so long and my Serbian is

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still so bad that I feel very

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embarrassed to speak Serbian.

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>> Yeah. Um, and I think, yeah, it's always

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intimidating like making mistakes, doing

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something, but I need to get more okay

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with like doing something imperfectly

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>> and just being like whatever, at least

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I'm trying. But it's interesting like

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when I spend time with my boyfriend's

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family,

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>> usually by the end of hanging out with

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them, my Serbian is a lot better because

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I'm speaking with them the whole time in

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Serbian, but it takes me a little while

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to like switch my brain into like

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speaking Serbian. Yeah.

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>> At first it's really tough and then by

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the end it's a lot better.

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>> So how it was the first meeting with his

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family. Was it difficult for you?

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>> No. It was so sweet. It's a little bit

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tough. Like his parents don't speak

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English very well. His sister does. They

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can speak a little English but his mom

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is like very shy to speak English. You

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can tell she gets very nervous. So, the

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first time we met, I was so excited to

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meet them that I literally as soon as I

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met his mom, I just gave her like the

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biggest hug and I'm like, "Oh, it's so

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nice to meet you." They're so sweet. His

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mom is like so nice to me. I wish that I

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spoke better Serbian because his mom is

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such a yapper and I'm such a yapper. I

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know that if my Serbian was better, me

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and her would just be talking [ __ ] with

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each other 24/7. Like, we would just be

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dishing non-stop. I think a lot of

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people have a hard time dealing with

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their in-laws, particularly their

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mother. I think that there's kind of

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this stereotype of like mother-in-laws

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being kind of like Godzilla's, like

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really poking their fingers into a

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relationship and you know, but I'm

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really blessed. Like his mom is very

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supportive. I've never felt like there's

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that weird caddyy energy or his mom is

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competing for his attention or something

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like that. She's so sweet. She's so

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welcoming. Do you feel that Serbs from

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the family side impose on you some kind

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of demands

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>> in general? I think that his family is

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not very demanding like they're not

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traditional Serbians. There was never

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pressure for us to like move in with his

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parents or something like that. And

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there's not pressure for us to act in a

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certain way. And I feel as though all of

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our friends have more of like a western

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mindset as well. Like if his friends

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come over, it's not like you have to

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make like a five course meal and have

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everything spotless. It's like they come

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over and we order burgers together and

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play board games and it's kind of like

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[ __ ] it. Like there's not that

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intensity. And I think that because I'm

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a foreigner as well, his parents have

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kind of had to accept the fact that like

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I'm not going to be a traditional

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Serbian wife. Like I'm not I'm not a

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Serbian. I'm going to interact with you

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in a way that is nice. And obviously my

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partner is Serbian, so we find ways to

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like meet in the middle. that I'm I'm

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not going to be like a Serbian

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housewife. And I think that they're okay

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with that.

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>> In your videos, you often speak about

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mental health. What do you think? Do

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Serbs speak openly about mental health.

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Can you imagine a Serb guy who goes into

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therapy and who discuss it with his

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friends?

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>> No. Men don't speak to each other about

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stuff like that. I think that they have

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a very hard time for whatever reason. I

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don't know if that's just a Balkan thing

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or if that's just like a men thing in

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general. Like they just have a hard time

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opening up or I think that in the

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context of men in their romantic

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relationships, they have a really hard

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time opening up to their partner because

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they don't want their partner to see

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them as being overly emotional or that

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they're worried that in some way them

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talking about their feelings would

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emasculate them, which I think is really

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sad. I'm like a big feelings girl. So

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constantly like I ask my boyfriend

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probably five times a day. I'm like how

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are you feeling? Something happens at

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work. I'm like how do you feel about it?

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Like is there anything you want to talk

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[laughter] about? He'll talk to me about

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things that stress him out but he's like

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his name is Peter and Peter in Serbian

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is like rock and he's like very much so

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he's like a rock. He's not a very

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emotional person. I think that he

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appreciates that he has the space to

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talk to me about things if he wants to,

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but he doesn't really like have very

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many things to talk to me about usually,

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which for me is crazy. I'm like I'm a

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very big feelings person. Like me and my

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girl relationships, like we're

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constantly just dishing and talking

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about things, but I think men have a

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hard time with that, which honestly

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makes me sad. I wish that men were more

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invested in their relationships and felt

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as though they had more emotional

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support. I think that's important for

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everyone.

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>> Tell me please how to make friends with

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Serbs.

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>> I feel like a bottle of Rakia is always

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good to have. [laughter]

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>> I feel like once you offer a Serb a shot

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of Rakia, it's like game over. I find

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Serbians to be like very friendly and

18:21

very easy to make friends with. I think

18:23

as long as you're open with them and

18:25

you're willing to chat and like have

18:27

open and honest conversations with them,

18:30

you're like good to go. Yeah. I wouldn't

18:33

consider Serbs to be very difficult to

18:35

be friends with. A Wednesday at 2 p.m.

18:38

they'll just like or 10 p.m. they'll

18:40

call you up and they'll be like, "Hey,

18:41

we're going out. Come out with us." And

18:42

I'm like, "Bro, I have to work tomorrow

18:44

and it's 10:00 p.m. Like, I'm literally

18:46

in bed already." So, I would say that

18:48

that's one difficult thing. I would say

18:50

if you're like me and you like to work a

18:52

lot, but you want to have a Serbian

18:54

friend, just find a 9 to5 cuz they're

18:56

doing their 9 to5 during the day. I'm

18:58

doing my 9 to5 during the day. we can

19:00

meet up at like 600 p.m. for some dinner

19:02

and board games and stuff like that and

19:03

like be home by midnight. I haven't

19:06

gotten used to the fact that a lot of

19:08

Serbians, like the Slavs, for example,

19:10

people aren't going out on a SPL until

19:12

like midnight, 1:00 in the morning. But

19:14

if I'm going out, I want to be home by

19:16

like 1:00 in the morning. I'm not

19:17

starting my night at 1:00. I'm ending my

19:19

night at 1:00.

19:20

>> So, I would say that that's one thing

19:21

that's difficult. You have to have a lot

19:23

of energy to be able to like party and

19:25

keep up with them.

19:26

>> Yeah.

19:27

>> Which I don't really have. So most of my

19:29

Serbian friends are like also in their

19:31

late 20s, early 30s. They're like career

19:34

girlies. We like do our 9 to5. We do our

19:36

work and then we just meet up

19:38

afterwards. I think that works better.

19:40

>> In one of your videos, you told that you

19:42

like raka. What type of raka do you

19:44

like?

19:44

>> I would say my favorite is probably

19:48

like the classic

19:50

um like I love like duna kaisia. Kaisia

19:53

is my favorite actually.

19:54

>> How do you buy raka? Whenever I go

19:57

traveling, if I find like one of those

19:59

little like bubbas that has a stand on

20:01

the side of the road, I think that

20:03

that's the best place to buy rakia. Buy

20:05

rachia, buy like jams, buy honey, buy

20:07

anything that you want. That's my

20:09

absolute favorite. But when in doubt,

20:11

you can just head to the store and just

20:13

grab some. Grab a bottle of like vou or

20:15

something like that. It's always good.

20:22

>> Wow. Do

20:25

>> from Belgrade. This is Rakia bought from

20:27

like a little uh like farm in Croatia.

20:31

>> Yeah, they make olive oil in Rakia. It's

20:33

really nice. It's kind of like lemony.

20:35

It's a little bit more tart. And then

20:37

this is like not even Rakia. If you've

20:39

ever had honey raia before, it literally

20:41

just tastes like honey. It's so sweet.

20:43

>> Being from Canada in this part of the

20:45

world, surely you have some kind of

20:48

cultural shocks here.

20:49

>> Kenya, I would say is like the number

20:52

one cultural shock. I remember the first

20:54

time I saw them roasting a pig on a

20:55

stick. I was like, "Where am I? What is

20:58

going on?"

20:59

>> So, when you saw this roasted pig, you

21:02

you were afraid?

21:03

>> I don't know if I was afraid, but it's

21:05

just the sensation of like, okay, I'm

21:07

definitely not in Canada anymore, you

21:10

[laughter] know?

21:12

>> Yeah. Like, this is not something that

21:14

I've ever experienced before.

21:16

>> I think one of the cultural shocks that

21:18

I actually really appreciate is how

21:20

family oriented people are here. So in

21:22

Canada, it's very individualistic. Like

21:25

from the time you're 18 years old, like

21:27

you're just kind of you move out, you're

21:29

on your own, you're doing your thing.

21:31

But here, people will live at home until

21:32

they're like in their 30s. And that's

21:34

just completely normal. And families are

21:37

a lot more tied to each other. They own

21:39

real estate together. They own cars

21:40

together. They are just very inshed. And

21:44

that was actually something that since

21:46

I'm dating a Serbian was like kind of

21:48

difficult for me to wrap my head around

21:51

and get used to when I first moved here.

21:53

>> Do you like it personally or it's for

21:55

you too much?

21:56

>> I do like it. I think that it can be too

21:59

much. I think that definitely families

22:01

have more of a codependent tendency here

22:05

that maybe like I think that in the west

22:07

it's too far to one side and in Serbia

22:10

sometimes it can be too far to the other

22:11

side. And I think that there has to be a

22:13

happy middle. But in general, I think if

22:16

you're going to go to one extreme or the

22:18

other, the extreme of Serbia is better

22:21

than the extreme of Canada cuz family

22:23

should be sticking together. Why are

22:25

parents not checking in on their kids?

22:27

Why is it like every man for themselves?

22:29

This is literally your family. But uh on

22:32

the other side this could lead to

22:35

absence of privacy you know because

22:38

Serbs live in this in this kind of

22:40

houses you know they called it porakucha

22:42

family house

22:43

>> for me it's a little bit too far I don't

22:45

think that I would be open to doing like

22:47

the whole multi-generational thing maybe

22:50

in like separate houses on the same

22:51

property or something but I need one

22:53

degree of separation but if it works for

22:56

them like ya like live your best life

22:58

who am I to judge

23:00

>> you speaking Yig girl, just like Serbin.

23:02

>> Yeah, that's my favorite. Even when I

23:05

was back in Canada, there's certain

23:06

words that like I'll still speak even

23:09

though I know that nobody understands

23:10

them. And yaba is the one thing cuz it

23:13

just sounds better. Like [ __ ] it has

23:15

kind of like a different like

23:18

connotation for some reason.

23:19

>> I don't use this word, but uh as a

23:22

person who uses, can you explain me what

23:24

does it mean?

23:25

>> Just [ __ ] it. Yeah, [ __ ] it. You know,

23:28

it's just like ah whatever. It doesn't

23:30

matter. Yea, do what you want. That's

23:33

how I interpret it. Anyway,

23:36

>> what is the best things for you in

23:38

living in Serbia?

23:39

>> Definitely the safety aspect of it. I

23:42

love how safe I feel here. I love that I

23:45

feel like I'm able to go out later at

23:47

night, go for walks in the evening. I

23:49

never have to feel afraid. Um, I also

23:52

love just how normal people are. I love

23:54

the fact that you can go by a basketball

23:56

court at 1000 p.m. and see kids like

23:58

running around and playing. I feel like

24:01

Serbia now is like Canada was in the '9s

24:04

where it's just like kids out playing

24:06

and just like more of just a normal like

24:09

family neighborhood vibe cuz I feel like

24:12

Canada's lost that a little bit.

24:14

>> Why do you think Canada lost it and why

24:16

did you think why do you think uh Serb

24:19

has it? Honestly, I think that a lot of

24:21

it has to do with like mass immigration

24:25

in Canada. Serbia is very strong in its

24:27

values and people really feel connected

24:30

to each other because they speak the

24:31

same language. They all are like

24:33

orthodox. They they have the same

24:35

religion. They look the same. They move

24:38

through the world in the same way. But I

24:40

think that Canada doesn't really have

24:41

that to the same degree anymore. It's

24:43

very multicultural. And I don't think

24:45

that there's anything wrong with that.

24:47

But I do think that there's less of a

24:49

connection to the people around them.

24:51

>> What are the worst things for you in

24:53

Serbia?

24:54

>> Indoor smoking. I would say that that's

24:56

like the number one thing, especially

24:58

during the winter. During the summer,

24:59

you don't feel it so much. People are

25:00

out on the patio, whatever. But the

25:02

smoking indoors, I absolutely hate it. I

25:05

feel like for the winter months, I

25:06

basically have to just stay inside cuz

25:09

it's so difficult. Like I love to go and

25:11

work from cafes. And there's nothing

25:13

worse than sitting in a cafe working and

25:15

somebody comes and sits down right

25:16

beside you and just chain smokes for

25:18

like three hours

25:19

>> while they're hanging out with their

25:20

friends. Like I can't work like that. I

25:22

literally have to just pack up my stuff

25:23

and leave.

25:24

>> You drive here?

25:25

>> I do drive here.

25:26

>> What do you think about driving style of

25:28

Serbs?

25:29

>> My friend said it best. He said that

25:31

they're the best worst drivers in the

25:33

world cuz Serbians know how to drive

25:35

really well. They're very good drivers,

25:37

but they just like don't give a [ __ ] So

25:40

they're constantly doing like dangerous

25:41

stuff and like cutting each other off

25:43

and just like acting crazy on the road.

25:45

But they're very good drivers, you know,

25:47

like technically good drivers. You never

25:50

know. You could be driving down the

25:51

street and then all of a sudden somebody

25:54

like just stops in front of you, puts on

25:55

their blinkers, and then you're just

25:57

left to like drive around and people

25:59

cutting each other off all the time.

26:01

Just like madness.

26:02

>> Do you drive here automatic or manual?

26:04

>> I've been driving manual since I was

26:06

like 15 years old. Really? So, for me,

26:08

like I hate driving manual. I would

26:09

rather have an automatic, but I can

26:11

drive manual all day. It's like easy

26:13

peasy.

26:14

>> I got the impression that everybody

26:15

drives in Canada automatic.

26:18

>> They do for sure. Yeah. Canada, it's

26:20

like you get in your car and you're

26:22

going to drive your little automatic car

26:24

down like these pristine roads where

26:26

everybody's following the rules and at

26:28

the end you're going to have like a huge

26:29

parking lot where you can just like

26:31

easily go and like park. Here it's like

26:33

you're going to get in your car. It's

26:35

going to be absolute mayhem trying to

26:37

get wherever you're trying to go. And

26:38

then when you get there, you're gonna

26:40

have to park between a tree and like a

26:42

trash can and like reversing to the spot

26:44

while there's 10 people waiting for you

26:46

to park and honking at you.

26:47

>> It's like crazy. I get stressed every

26:50

time before I have to drive somewhere.

26:52

But it's one of those things like

26:55

>> I don't want to be limited in feeling

26:57

like I can't drive here. So I'm like

26:59

even though I feel scared doing it, I'm

27:01

going to do it. like Slavia. The first

27:04

time I did Slavia, I literally cried

27:07

when I got out of it. I was like, I

27:09

can't believe I just did that.

27:11

>> What do you think Canada can learn from

27:13

Serbia?

27:13

>> Like, I think that Serbians, like, they

27:15

have very strong morals and values and

27:18

they're willing to stand up for those

27:20

morals and values. And I think that

27:21

Canadians have kind of lost that.

27:23

They're a little too worried about

27:26

virtue signaling. I feel like Canadians

27:28

are more worried about appearing like a

27:30

good and politically correct person than

27:33

they are standing by their own like

27:34

morals and values. And that's something

27:36

that bothers me. And then the other

27:38

thing is just like I think that they

27:41

could invest a little bit more in their

27:42

relationships. I think that Canada and

27:44

America is so driven by the self and

27:47

people really forget about investing in

27:50

deep relationships with their friends

27:51

and with their family. And especially

27:54

when it comes to family,

27:56

I think that Canadians could learn a lot

27:59

from Serbians because I think that the

28:01

way that Serbians treat their family and

28:03

interact with their family is a lot

28:04

better compared to the West.

28:07

>> What is the most valuable thing that you

28:10

found in Serbia? I would say just like

28:12

my purpose because when I was living in

28:15

Canada, I was making very like easy fast

28:17

money. I was working in nightclubs and

28:20

so like a very different lifestyle like

28:22

up all night literally just like

28:24

basically like partying for work like

28:27

always around alcohol just like kind of

28:29

crazy. But the money was so good that I

28:32

think that if I was back in Canada and

28:34

able to make that money I don't know if

28:35

I ever would have like left that

28:38

industry it would have been a lot harder

28:39

to leave. But living in Serbia, not

28:43

being able to just be like, "Wow,

28:45

building a business is really hard. I'm

28:48

just going to go back to making like

28:49

fast, easy money." It's like, "No, I'm

28:51

in Serbia. Like, I have to build a

28:52

business. I have to be able to make a

28:54

money online." There's no like, "Wow,

28:56

this is hard. I don't want to do it

28:57

anymore." It's like, "I have to freaking

28:59

do it." So, I think that a lot of times

29:01

where if I was in Canada, I would have

29:04

quit doing something because it felt too

29:06

hard. I didn't have the opportunity to.

29:08

And because of that, I've built a

29:10

business that I like absolutely love and

29:13

feels very purposeful and very in

29:15

alignment.

29:16

>> So Serbia made you more focused, more

29:19

purposeful

29:20

>> for sure. And I think that this is maybe

29:22

not necessarily something that is

29:25

particular to Serbia because I could

29:27

have this experience anywhere else. But

29:29

meeting my boyfriend and having the

29:31

friends that I have, I feel has also

29:34

allowed me to transform into like the

29:37

most in alignment and truest version of

29:39

myself. When you're surrounded by people

29:41

who genuinely like love you for you and

29:44

like help to build you up and like make

29:46

you feel good and like support you and

29:48

take care of you, like I feel like I'm

29:50

now the best version of myself because

29:53

I've just had my cup like so poured into

29:55

by the relationships in my life. And

29:57

obviously I could meet a boyfriend like

29:59

my boyfriend if I was living in Canada,

30:01

if I was living in South America, like I

30:03

could meet my best friend also anywhere

30:05

in the world, but very particular to

30:08

Serbia has been meeting people that are

30:10

absolute loves of my life. And I feel

30:11

like they've helped me transform into

30:14

the best version of myself as well. And

30:16

that's a really beautiful thing. I'm

30:17

very grateful for that.

Interactive Summary

Isabelle, a Canadian living in Serbia for five years, shares her insights on life, culture, and dating. She highlights Serbia's strong sense of safety and community, contrasting it with Canada's individualistic nature. She discusses the challenges for women in the Serbian dating scene due to traditional family dynamics, where sons are often "loved" and daughters "raised." Isabelle also talks about her experience dating a Serbian man, cultural shocks related to family closeness and food, and her efforts to learn Serbian. She expresses appreciation for Serbian family values and community spirit, believing Canada could learn from it. Despite some difficulties like indoor smoking and chaotic driving, she credits Serbia with helping her find purpose and strong relationships, transforming her into her best self.

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