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>> Gregory,
good to see you, my friend.
>> Good to see you, man.
>> World's on fire.
>> World is on fire. Good time for you to
come in.
>> I mean, I literally uh I mean, talked
about being addicted to your scroll. I
got to really put the [ __ ] phone down
sometimes.
>> I know. Yeah. It's not good.
>> No,
>> it's not good for your brain to see all
the problems of the world all piling and
everything looks like it's about to blow
up.
>> Yeah.
>> Iran looks like it's about to blow up.
They're talking about going to Cuba. Don
Lemon went to jail. [laughter] It's like
it's all crazy. It's it's like what's
next? Well, you know, when jail gives
you lemons. Um, it and it's also like
what what's that whole theory about?
We're only supposed to be exposed to
like 200 people in our life.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Dunar's
number.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, you only can keep that many
people in your head,
>> but you should only know about that many
divorces and that much cheating and that
much killing as would happen within 200
>> crime and fill in the blank. you know,
fraud, waste, abuse, international
politics, restrictions on speech in
England. Like,
>> yeah,
>> you say this [ __ ] crazy story. This
guy in England, uh, an illegal alien was
a squatter in his house. The court ruled
that because he didn't live in the
house. The guy didn't live in the house.
It was an empty house. They gave him the
house. They gave the squatter the house.
The squatter sold it for 540 grand.
[laughter]
squatter sold his house, took his house
cuz he was living and this guy was like
a pensioner.
>> He was just a guy who had like an extra
house, like a [ __ ] investment
property.
>> You're right.
>> And this guy moved into it. Have you
seen it, Jamie?
>> I'm seeing something from a year ago.
>> I don't know. Somebody sent it to me
today.
>> They had that in New York back [snorts]
in the 70s and 80s. There was a lot of
empty units like down on the Lower East
Side, like Tomkin Square Park area.
There was a lot of squatting.
>> Yeah, this is it. [laughter]
Squatter moved in the pensioners's empty
home, then won the legal right to keep
it and sold the house for 500 I guess
540. Uh, is that euros or pounds? Is
that pounds? What's that weird?
>> Yeah, England has pounds.
>> That's [ __ ] crazy.
That's so crazy.
England has lost its [ __ ] mind. Yeah.
>> It's almost like they want people to
either revolt or completely submit. It's
one or the other. It's like you're
either begging for a revolution or
you're begging for people to completely
submit.
>> They've arrested 12,000 people this year
for social media posts.
>> Oh, that's right.
>> And most of it is criticizing
immigration. Just criticizing
immigration. Just saying immigration
sucks. We should send these people back
home.
>> Cops show up at your door.
>> Right. Right.
>> Crazy. Well, Tik Tok is now not allowing
people to post anything that is
anti-ICE.
>> Not that. Not just that. You can't post
the juice box emoji.
>> What's that?
>> Cuz it's code for Jews.
Cuz people were using it cuz they were
they were blocking content where they
were criticizing Israel.
>> Wait, why is the juice box Jews?
>> I don't know.
>> Juice juice. [laughter]
It is funny.
>> But did they block the use this is
somebody sent me this. I haven't
verified this. Did they block the use of
the word Epstein?
>> I saw I mean I saw I don't I'm not on
the app, but I saw a video of someone
like trying you know.
>> Yeah, let's run that through Perplexity
>> and ask if it's
>> see if Perplexity will rat out Tik Tok,
[laughter]
>> right? Cuz that's um
>> it's [snorts] so crazy that they would
do it because they just purchased it,
right? So it was just purchased by um
some what what is the group is it did
Larry Ellison's group purchase it?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Which is tremendous supporter of
Netanyahu in Israel,
>> right?
>> So yeah, there you go. So you got
censored news now. So any criticism of
Palestine, what's going on in Gaza, all
that stuff's going to get squashed
probably. Tik Tok says does not have a
rule that bans or blocks the word epste
across the app, but many US users have
recently been unable to send that word
in direct messages.
Now, I have a friend, his name is Bobby
Epstein. Totally unrelated. He's the guy
who owns the Kota racetrack. He's a good
friend of mine. I can't send a message
saying, "I was just talking to my friend
Bobby Epstein."
>> Oh, no [ __ ]
>> That's crazy. Epstein is a super common
name. Yeah,
>> that's a super. It's like Jones.
>> It was on Welcome Back Carter,
>> right? Epstein from Welcome Back Carter.
That's right.
>> You can't talk about that.
>> Play my brother on news radio.
>> No.
>> Yes. Him, Nick Depollo, and Brian Callen
played my brothers and we all just beat
the [ __ ] out of each other than the
entire episode. It was hilarious. Yeah.
Nick threw me through a plate glass
window and then the brother shows up.
The Epstein was a priest and he showed
up with a bat. We were all scared of our
older brother. [laughter]
>> It was really funny.
>> He was the Jew, the Puerto Rican Jew
from from Brooklyn. He was great. He was
a really nice guy, too. Um, so what else
does it say here?
>> Nuent to probe claims of Trump critical
censorship on Tik Tok. I think [snorts]
they're [ __ ] blocking a lot of things
on on certain social media platforms. I
mean,
>> what is that? I mean, what's your big
picture take on whether or not [snorts]
social media platforms which are
privately owned have responsibility
that say regular broadcast networks
would have in terms of not censoring
things.
>> Well, regular broadcast problem is they
censor things, right? They don't just
report on the news. They report on what
they decide they're going to report on.
Like if it's a CNN hourly news segment,
they have no responsibility to tell you
about any particular story. None. Zero.
>> Yeah. So they'll wait till something
becomes like unmanageable before they'll
start talking about it, right? So
something like starts getting traction
on social media like some sort of a
corruption scandal.
>> If it's a left-wing scandal, they can
ignore it, right? And they have no
obligation to it's not like we have to
tell you about these very crit. It's not
like, you know, we ran it through AI.
There's 20 things that the American
public has to know about. So they censor
or at least they curate the content. I
think for social media platforms, if
Elon Musk didn't buy Twitter, we would
be [ __ ] because there would be no
place where you could say whatever you
want, even heinous things, right? But if
someone says heinous things, you can
block them and not interact with them.
And you can let other people tear them
down and tear them apart. And that's how
it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be
you don't counter hate speech with
censorship. You counter it with better
speech. And you appeal to rational
people and and insensible people that
go, "This is why this guy is wrong. This
is why racism is wrong. This is why rash
generalizations are wrong. This is why
it's wrong."
>> Yeah.
>> And that's how you're supposed to do it.
It's supposed to be a free speech town
hall platform. It's supposed to be like
the town square where everybody can get
together and talk about ideas. And
that's how it should be,
>> right? And there's been a lot of calls
that say that you shouldn't be able to
be anonymous on social media, that you
should have consequences for your
actions. The problem with that is then
you lose all your whistleblowers, right?
all the whistleblowers that are talking
about giant corporations that are doing
horrible things to the environment
secretly in other countries which we
find out about all the time like the
Steven Dawzinger case where that guy got
arrested about he he was uh prosecut was
it Exxon
>> the Dinger case
>> but it's like whistleblowers are
important yes you know and if you don't
have whistleblowers you don't find out
like if Edward Snowden doesn't come out
we know so little about the NSA we know
so little about government spying and
yeah, he's an American former attorney
known for his legal battle. Oh, Chevron,
particularly with uh so he was arrested
and he went to jail, man, for criminal
contempt.
>> I mean, that's first amendment, isn't
it?
[sighs]
>> You know, I don't know exactly the
details of the case. He spent 45 days in
prison and a combined total of 993 days
under house arrest. Wow. Not only do
they go to jail, it depletes all your
savings. If they decide to prosecute
you, your life is ruined.
>> That's part of the point of it all. It's
to also discourage other people from
doing the same thing. So, if you're an
attorney and you're thinking of
prosecuting, you know, Shell, you're not
going to do that now. You go, "Fuck
this." You know, I have a [ __ ] house
>> trying to buy a Porsche, [laughter]
>> right?
>> And then you back out of it.
>> Yeah. Right.
you know,
>> I mean, uh, yeah, it's, uh, it's a it's
a it's a weird thing because like I
know, uh, like right now to cover the
Pentagon, no journalist can go into the
Pentagon unless they sign an agreement
to only put out government sponsored
press releases,
>> government approved or
>> government approved.
>> So now you've got very few people inside
the Pentagon, which is where the
whistleblowing was happening. in the
back halls of the Pentagon.
>> That's crazy. But then you see the
problem with the Pentagon is you're
talking about national security. And if
someone released something like the name
of an agent that was undercover
somewhere and something happened, that
person got killed or compromised or some
sort of a national security interest,
you know, was the the whole thing was
tanked.
>> Yeah,
>> that's a the Pentagon's different. I
mean, I'm not saying that they
that the press shouldn't have access to
Pentagon officials. They certainly
should, but it's like going there is
kind of different, right?
>> It's like the FBI just arrested. They
just had a giant sweep on gangs in this
country today. They just released that
they found like
>> I think it was 10 kilos of drugs. They
arrested people cartels in in America.
Yeah.
>> And so they made a giant arrest today. I
think they arrested 200. see if you can
find what that story is. But like
imagine
if you were in the FBI office and you
heard about an imminent attack and you
printed something like if you're a
reporter and you're covering the stuff
and you have access to this information
somehow and it gets released and these
guys find out about it and they they
skate.
>> They nabbed
>> Latin Kings
>> 50 Latin Kings in Operation Broken Crown
after three months uh sweep. So what is
the details of it?
Okay. Last three months, the FBI's
quietly executed.
>> Sorry.
>> Okay. Um this is on X. Uh quietly
executed Operation Broken Crown, a
sweeping violent gang takedown involving
13 field offices targeting the Latin
Kings gangs members which uh were
publicly threatening law enforcement
officers. 50 arrests, $200,000 in seized
assets, seizure of 10 kilos of illicit
narcotics.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Well, so like that kind of a situation,
you can't have access to that
information before they do it. That has
to be very tight lipped, you know, but
there's only a few of those kind of
scenarios that I can imagine. But when
it comes to like politicians and
backdoor deals, like there should be
live footage of it. It should be
>> You only found out about the bomb the
illegal bombings in Cambodia because
there was a whistleblower inside of the
Pentagon.
>> Exactly. Exactly.
>> So it does You do need some access.
>> Yeah. But it's like Well, you need
whistleblowers, right? Right.
>> But it's like how many pe There's here's
the thing about like intelligence
agencies and there's a lot of good
people that are working there. It's like
we judge them based on the evil people
that are probably the ones with the most
power,
>> you know.
>> Yes.
>> There's probably a lot of like midlevel
people working at the Pentagon, working
at the C, working everywhere that are
good people.
>> Oh, are you kidding me? These are people
that have dedicated their lives to
trying to, you know, I I same way with
cops. I think you know I got I got three
good buddies that are cops and they are
absolutely went into it the same the way
a social worker goes into it
>> and then there's evil ones that uh
>> you know I think it was worse I think I
think back like you know back in the
days of like Serpico you see that movie
like it was literally like the entire
force was in on it
>> you know there was [ __ ] legal
gambling legal drug dealing nobody got
touched
>> Yep. Yep. Yeah. They've always done
that. I mean, that's how they ran the
mob in Vegas.
>> Yeah.
>> The mob ran Vegas with the cops.
>> Oh, yeah. We're just talking about that
outside. Like, why was Vegas and
Atlantic City the only places allowed? I
don't know why I stupidly asked that.
Like, Jamie's like, "Cuz of the mob,
asshole."
>> [ __ ] [laughter] duh. Well, it was the
mob and I think Nevada there was also
see if this is true. Um there was
supposedly a connection between uh the
testing of nuclear weapons and then
allowing the city or the state rather to
have gambling cuz Nevada was one of the
rare places where they
>> like routinely tested nuclear weapons. I
don't know if you've ever seen the video
that shows a history of all the atomic
bombs going off in the United States.
The video is crazy because it starts
with the first test. Starts with the
Trinity test. Starts they do the couple
in the ocean. What's the matter? What's
so funny?
>> Uh just the way this is worded.
>> What is it?
>> I asked if there's a connection between
nuclear test and gambling in Las Vegas.
And turns out, yeah, they would use it
as a theme to attract gamblers.
>> What? [laughter]
>> Look, come see a bomb.
>> Yeah. From the early 1950s to the 1960s,
Las Vegas casinos and tourism promoters
actively used nearby nuclear weapons
tests as themed attractions to draw
gamblers and visitors. Holy [ __ ] man.
>> Bomb parties.
>> It's like
>> Oh my [laughter] god. They had bomb
parties on the rooftop. They would watch
They'd stay up gambling, drinking, and
then stepped outside to watch the blast
on the horizon.
>> Wow. With your
>> atomic cocktail,
>> dude. It's like how Caesars does
fireworks now.
>> They had atomic themed promotions,
atomic cocktails, atomic hairdos,
nuclear pinup imagery like Miss Aatomic
Blast, [laughter]
slogans like Atomic City USA and Up and
Adam atom to tie the test directly to
Vegas nightife and gambling culture.
Holy [ __ ] man.
>> I wonder if you could place bets,
>> dude. I bet your eyebrows sing off. I
don't know if they had the same thing
like what they have now with modern
prediction betting. Prediction betting
you could bet on pretty much everything.
>> I just made a bet last night on uh
>> go back down to where you were stop go
with the bottom line. In short, nuclear
weapons tests near Las Vegas were not
just a backdrop. They were deliberately
woven into casino marketing, party
culture, and tourism that supported the
city's gambling economy. But did it have
uh the reason like here here's my
question. Was
was Nevada allowed to have gambling
because of them allowing nuclear tests?
Like was there any sort of an agreement?
Cuz there's only two states at that time
that allowed casinos, like real casinos,
>> right?
>> And it it seems kind of weird that one
one of them, you know, New Jerseyy's
always been [ __ ] corrupt. That's the
Sopranos.
like the most mobridden [ __ ] state in
the country at the time
>> based in Atlantic City pretty much.
>> Yeah. I mean, cut the [ __ ] [ __ ]
>> Atlantic City.
>> And then Vegas was Bugsy Seagull, right?
>> Okay. Well, since Nevada legalized most
forces of gambling in 31. Okay. So, it
doesn't make any sense because it's
before that.
>> So, it's the Great Depression economic
measure track tours.
>> So, no. So, that that theory doesn't
hold up,
>> right? I didn't know that Vegas was
started in 31. That's nuts.
>> So, basically, the Great Depression
started and then they launched Vegas as
a as a way to raise money,
>> which is You have no money. [laughter]
>> There's no jobs. Why don't you gamble?
What?
>> My gamble is going to the food line,
seeing if I can get a loaf of bread.
That's my gamble today.
>> You know what's crazy is that lake keeps
drying up because they were having a
drought. They keep finding bodies in the
lake.
>> Oh, no [ __ ]
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like like those
metal barrels with like bodies inside of
them. They've they found quite a few of
them. How many bodies have they found?
Is it Lake Me, I believe.
>> Yeah. So, as it's drying up, it's at
like It was I think it's probably picked
up a little bit, but at one point in
time was at a historic low. Yeah.
>> And so, they were finding these [ __ ]
dead bodies.
>> I think they found like a half a dozen
of them. And I think they think there's
a whole lot more in there.
>> No [ __ ]
>> As of last reporting, at least six
separate discoveries of human remains.
Yeah. Were made in Lake me in 2022 as
the water level dropped rep representing
at least several different individuals.
Wow. Um, find out that thing where they
stopped uh searching for guns and
bodies. I think it was in MacArthur Park
and why they did that. David Tal back in
his insomniac days used to hang he hung
out with some dark [ __ ] in New
York
>> and he used to bring this guy in who was
uh he was a New York City cop and they
basically said we'll double your pay and
give you early retirement if you put on
a frog suit every night and you go out
into I think it was Flushing Bay one of
the bays out in Queens which was a
famous place where the mob was dropping
bodies and uh the guy would go went to
the water in a frog suit and he'd wait
by this bridge and when they drop a body
he'd [ __ ] call it in. And he did that
the night shift and he'd finish that and
he'd come into the comedy cellar at like
4:00 a.m.
>> So he'd wait in the ocean in a scuba
suit and then drop a body.
>> Yeah.
>> HOLY [ __ ] THEY WERE dropping that many
bodies
>> that you can just wait for.
[laughter]
>> That's so crazy.
Search in MacArthur Park for guns and
possible bodies was stopped because
authorities said it was an unpermitted
and potentially unsafe operation on city
park property. Uh, okay. So, it was a
businessman. So, it was a private thing.
So, that's probably what it was.
So, officials official reasons given.
Organizers led by businessman John I
don't know how to spell his name. A L E.
How do you say that? Alle
uh planned to use sonar and remotely
operated vehicles to look for weapons
and human remains in the lake. Los
[snorts] Angeles park rangers halted the
effort before the sonar entered the
water, saying the team did not have the
required permits or clearances.
Okay. Why didn't you guys do that
though? If you really think if this guy
really thinks that there could be bodies
and guns in the lake, why wouldn't you
guys search for bodies and guns if
someone could search for it?
>> Right? It seems like there's probably a
lot of people missing, a lot of crimes
that could be solved, a lot of resources
that have already been spent on cases.
You could probably get to the bottom of
a lot of things. [snorts]
Uh, Alle, I don't know how to say his
name, uh, said families of missing
people, some of whom were last seen near
MacArthur Park, had reached out to him
for help, which inspired the idea of a
large-scale sonar search of the lake.
There is there's evidence down there for
crimes, he said. We'll identify it with
photography, and the city will have to
extract it. It also could be these are
homeless people and the government
doesn't give a [ __ ] Yeah,
>> they can't swim.
>> Yeah,
>> come on. They were kids once.
>> It's hard to swim when you're on meth.
[laughter] You get bad cardio.
>> You know, if one guy says, "This is the
last day I do meth. Today I get in
shape." He tries to swim across the lake
and [ __ ] strokes out in the middle of
it.
>> This is my day.
>> Uh, never gave him. Oh, geez. I'm in
there. What are they saying about me?
>> That's just an art. It's an ad.
>> Oh, it's an ad. That's basic. Yeah,
that's an ad down at the bottom.
>> Oh, that I mocked the AI generated. That
was That was crazy. The AI generated
photo that MSNB put MSNBC put up of the
guy who got shot in Minneapolis. They
changed his appearance.
>> Alex Prey.
>> Yes,
>> they changed his appearance. And we're
handsome.
>> Oh, they did. [sighs]
>> You haven't seen it?
>> No.
>> You have to see it. You have to see it.
It's there. I don't know who's doing
this.
>> No. It's almost like like someone from
the Republican side is like a a secret
plant at MSNBC because they know that
stuff like this is going to get caught.
Look at the difference between the one
on the left and one on the right.
>> Well, the nose looks blurry on the one
on the left.
>> Well, that's his nose. That's what he
looks like. It's just a shitty picture.
But they cleaned the picture up. They
made his nose smaller. They gave him a
tan. They made his forehead shorter.
They made his jaw wider. They made his
shoulders thicker.
>> Yeah. They gave him more bicep. They
made him more handsome. They made his
neck thicker.
>> He looks better.
>> Yep.
>> The guy on the right looks like a
good-look guy. The guy on the left
looks, you know, like Ari's unfortunate
brother,
[laughter]
>> doesn't he?
[laughter]
Poor Ari's brother. You I mean, it's so
funny that Ari comes from this family. I
mean, he grew up Orthodox Jewish, right?
>> Oh, yeah. and the things that he has put
out there um for a family to have to see
it makes you realize and they love him
like they accept it and it it's it's all
about grace and I love Jews because like
they are very accepting you know as much
as you might be orthodox I find my my
wife is half Jewish and there's
something very open-minded about Jews I
mean they were the original hippies and
they were the original communist s in
America and they were always open to
different ideas. And I think when I
think about Ari's family, if they were
Christian conservative versus Jewish
conservative, I don't know that they'd
be as accepting of him.
>> You know, Ari's dad survived the
Holocaust.
>> No [ __ ]
>> Oh, yeah. Ari's dad has a tattoo.
>> Damn.
>> Yeah.
>> He's very old.
>> Whoa.
>> Yeah.
>> He must be one of the oldest people left
with a tattoo. I mean,
>> yeah. He talked to me about having his
dad on. He asked me if I'd be interested
in it. If his dad ever wants to do it
because, you know, he doesn't have much
time left. And uh I said, "Absolutely."
And he goes, you know, let me I'm not
sure if he would be interested in it,
but if he did, I think it would be
important to talk about.
>> I mean, he's got to be over 100 years
old.
>> I don't know how old he is. Uh he's old,
though. Well, how long ago was
>> You would have to have been born. Oh,
no. Actually, if he was born in 1935,
>> I think he's in his 80s. his late 80s.
>> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What am I thinking?
Right. Right. Because they tattooed the
[ __ ] kids.
>> Yeah.
>> Jesus.
>> Yeah. It's dark. It's horrible. It's so
crazy, dude. It's It's so crazy that
that was less than a hundred years ago.
[sighs]
>> I know. I know. And uh the Germans like
that [laughter] [ __ ] Nor McDonald bit
about how you know Germany is the
country we really should be afraid of
like the way they start world wars and
what they're like it's really [ __ ]
nuts.
>> Well they were the barbarians back in
the day.
>> Oh right
>> you know they the I mean we think of now
as engineers they make BMWs
>> but back then they were the barbarians
during the Roman era. The Vikings were
Scandinavian and then they were fighting
against the
>> Bro, the Germans were [ __ ]
terrifying.
>> Yeah,
>> they were terrifying. And they all
became engineers. [laughter]
>> They became like brilliant
>> like very disciplined people which is
interesting cuz Germany is known for
that. And but also [ __ ] porn. Remember
like in the early days of the internet a
lot of the [ __ ] porn like weird crazy
like [ __ ] on people. A lot of that
was come and we were trying to analyze
it one day and I was like it's probably
because if you're so buttoned down and
so disciplined and regimented and
conservative in your daily life, the way
you cut loose, it's like you [ __ ] in
each other's mouths and [ __ ] each other
in the butt. And like some of the
craziest [ __ ] porn was coming out of
Germany. Yeah. This is like late 90s,
early 2000s when we first started like
finding weird websites that would, you
know, you'd be able to find things on.
>> Oh, no. Before that, I'd go to Sex World
in New York where you sit in those
booths and you put in quarters and you
watch porn and they always had the
darkest German porn in there.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. A lot of animals and [ __ ] And I'm
like I'm like 15 years old going like
and and I've got these coins. You go in
and you give the guy 10 bucks and he
gives you a handful of coins. Just
imagine if you put a black light on
those [ __ ] coins and I got them in my
hand.
>> God, just jizz all over those things.
>> Speeding them into the And
>> lights are terrifying.
>> I kept pushing buttons to pick which
film to watch.
>> I have a friend who brought a black
light into a hotel room. He said, "You
just find jizz on the carpet." No
kidding. You find jizz on the [ __ ]
blanket. Sometimes you go to any like go
to a cheap hotel or a motel. How well do
you think they're clean those carpets?
You think they clean the walls? I've
been in hotels where they put the remote
control in a baggie for you because that
they say that's the most No, no, because
so you don't have to touch the the
remote and then they change the baggie
on the remote each time a new guest
comes in.
>> So you're supposed to remote through the
baggie. Yeah.
>> Who does that?
>> I take it out of the bag right out.
Yeah, that's crazy.
>> Yeah,
>> that's ridiculous. I'm touching toilet
seats. I'm touching everything. What are
we talking about here? [laughter]
>> I'm also not that afraid to come, you
know.
It's going to kill you.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean, that's just kind of gross.
But
>> yeah,
>> you know, I mean, think about how much
[ __ ] is on the average person's cell
phone. Have you ever heard of that?
>> No.
>> Yeah. Just touch your cell phone with a
swab. Like, get a a swab and get get it
analyzed. You'll find feal matter all
over your cell phone
>> because we're scrolling while we're on
the toilet.
>> A lot of people are. Yeah. A lot of
people. And also, you're touching things
and then you touch your phone. And how
many people touch their ass then touch a
thing, a doorork knob, a this and that?
You're getting fecal matter on
everything.
>> Yeah.
>> Especially if you have a cat.
>> I used to think about that all the time
when I had cats. Like the cats are in
the [ __ ] box. They're scratching around
there and then they're walking on your
counter. Yeah.
>> They're walking. They you know they
don't give a [ __ ] where they go. They go
everywhere and you don't care. You're
like, "Hey buddy." You pet them when
they're on the counter. You [ __ ] in
their paws.
>> Then then he then your dog licks his
[ __ ] and then licks and then people
have lick their face.
>> They lick my face.
>> Really?
>> Oh yeah.
>> No. I let him give me kisses. [laughter]
Have you seen him lick his [ __ ]
>> I have
>> for sure. Especially my puppy. I have a
little puppy now.
>> Imagine a black light on your face right
now.
>> My puppy goes right. You know, I have a
little uh
>> You look like you were in blackface
>> probably. [laughter] There's a splatter
like like I'm the Joker.
>> Also go I have a puppy like a He's a
King Charles Cavalere. He's a little
tiny cute. He's so [ __ ] cute. Uh, and
then I have the golden retriever. And
the puppy runs right up to the golden
retriever, sticks his face in his dick,
and then sticks his face in his [ __ ]
That's the first thing he does to him
every time. Face on the dick, face on
the [ __ ] I'm like, "Bro."
>> Wow.
>> What are you doing?
>> Yeah.
>> They That's just dogs.
>> Yeah.
>> That's what they do.
>> It's funny how they keep Yeah. I had two
dogs and they did that. Yeah. Every
[ __ ] day they sniffed each other
like, you know, I mean,
I guess that's how they know if
something changed. Maybe they know if
the other dog is sick or if the other
dog is breeding with another dog. It's
like kind of checking their emails.
>> Well, they get so much information from
smell that we can't even possibly
process.
>> They say that a dog can smell a
cheeseburger. They don't just smell the
cheeseburger. They smell every
individual ingredient. They smell the
mustard. They smell the pickle. They
smell everything. They smell the
lettuce.
>> Yeah. They they smell They smell They
think that dogs smell anxiety.
>> They smell like moods. That's why when
certain people come over your house,
they're scared of dogs. Dogs get sketchy
with them. Like, what the [ __ ] up with
this guy? Like, oh, he doesn't like you.
Yeah.
>> Like, it's cuz the person's probably
nervous. They're giving off a scent,
>> right? No. My mom, her sister was
attacked really bad by a dog when they
were little. So, my mom has this trauma
about dogs. We had these little [ __ ]
We had a Shih Tzu and a Lassa Absa.
They're just little dogs. She was
terrified. And the dogs would growl at
her and they didn't growl at anybody.
>> Oh my god. Yeah. That's crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> That's crazy. Yeah, it's they smell
things. They sense things.
>> Yeah.
>> That's why people have them as guards.
>> I mean, that's their that's how they
that's how they made it, right?
>> To be dogs. They were the wolves that
hung out with us and would let us know
when something's going down.
>> Sentinels.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's uh Well, I I have a very
strong olfactory sense. Like I'm very of
my five senses, I would put it up there
at the top. Like I I love perfume.
>> Really?
>> I love perfume. I don't like when women
wear too much of it and then they hug
you at the comedy store and then you go
home and you smell like [ __ ]
[laughter] perfume. You're like, "Honey,
it's just Whitney Cummings has this new
[screaming] Chanel." [laughter]
But like sometimes I'll be I'll walk
I'll I'll be sitting somewhere and I'll
smell some nice perfume and I'll [ __ ]
whip my head around. It's like some
81year-old woman hunched over and you're
like, "Oh." They wear that old ladies,
no matter how old they are, they'll
still put on the makeup. They'll still
put on the perfume. done.
>> Let it out. [laughter]
Time to go out and see go fishing. See
if this old bait can catch a bass.
>> Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. There's this
bar up at my uh where my mom lives in in
Florida and there's this bar and it's
like a famous cougar bar [laughter] and
it's all these rich women who's cuz you
know men die faster,
>> right? It's like it's impossible for a
woman in Florida who's in her 70s to
find a guy who's, you know, anywhere
near her age. She's got to date a guy in
his late 80s if she's in her 70s.
>> Wow.
>> And so these women go to this bar and
they are, like you said, they're wearing
so a lot of leopards, a lot of leopard
print.
>> Yeah. They're letting you know
>> that stiletto heels. It's like stiletto
heels, but the the toes are all twisted
and mangled.
>> My wife [laughter] has been watching
this horrible show that's on Netflix.
It's like uh one of those housewife
shows, but it's all West Palm Beach
ladies. It's all these like rich ladies
with plastic surgery.
>> Palm Beach, not West Palm. Palm Beach.
That's right. Palm Beach ladies with Is
Palm Beach the rich area? Yeah. Is West
Palm like the more moderate area?
>> No. No, it's poor.
>> It's poor West Palm Beach.
>> I mean, well, it has it has good
sections, but it has with the people
that work on Palm Beach cleaning the
houses live in West Palm Beach.
>> Oh, I see. I see. Because there's
basically Palm Beach is a bridge to get
to Do you know the history of Palm
Beach?
>> No.
>> They built
>> I do. Yeah, but go ahead.
>> They created it. It was like a sandbar
that they built up and then they hired
they didn't hire they hired a bunch of
black people to come on the island and
build all the houses, the
infrastructure.
>> Black people.
>> I don't know.
I
>> mean, for sure they only hired black
people.
>> I mean, look it up, Jamie. But like all
I know is there was a lot of black
people doing the building. They finished
it and then the island held a big party
for the black people on the end of the
island to celebrate and then they
torched all their houses
>> and forced them off the island. Yeah.
That's the history of Palm Beach.
>> They torched their houses.
>> Torched the houses
>> after they were done building the
mansions.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> And it's the probably the wealthiest
piece of real estate in the country
right now.
>> How many people are [ __ ] evil?
[laughter]
That's so imagine a guy built your
house. He's at home with his kid
>> having a, you know, wow, what a great
job I got.
>> Yeah.
>> You know,
>> and then I get to start here beautiful
to live in this place. I helped build
these beautiful mansions that we
>> People are going to love me because I
helped them create a life.
>> Oh my god. And they lit their [ __ ]
houses on fire. Pull up that story. I
need to hear about that. That's crazy.
>> But these ladies are just monsters. This
is it's just all like the social status.
It's all like who's got the most money.
Like they don't even know how much money
I have, you know? Like I'm a
millionaire.
>> And they have these clubs. My my
friend's father lives there and he
belongs to a club.
>> Oh, you got to belong to
>> And he he worked for I won't say who the
person was, but a very famous Jewish
family. And he uh she went to lunch one
day at one of these clubs that didn't
allow Jews. And the waiter
>> clubs still don't allow Jews.
>> No, this is going back 20 years at the
most.
>> Only 20 years ago.
>> 20 years ago.
>> So in 2006,
2006 probably those clubs. Yeah. Well,
you know the where the ma Augusta where
they play the Masters only started
allowing black members in like the 80s.
Remember Tiger Woods was playing there
and he got [ __ ] because he was a black
playing at a club where they didn't
allow black people.
>> Really?
>> And they said, "How could you do that?"
Yeah. Tiger Woods lifetime.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> So anyway, so this Jewish woman goes to
the club. The waiter wouldn't come over
to the table. And finally the member
went over and goes, "What's going? We
can't we can't serve can't serve her.
>> How' they even know she was Jewish?"
>> She's famous.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> I think I can say who it is. It was
Estee Lauder's wife.
>> Wow.
>> Wow.
>> Or was Este Estee Lauder the woman?
>> Yeah. I don't know.
>> Estee Lauder is the the woman. It was
her.
>> Wow.
>> One of the richest women in the country.
>> Wow.
>> We can't we can't serve her because of
her religion.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow. And that was 2006.
>> Hey, the country clubs, you know, the
the rule on it was Well, look, the
friars club.
>> We need to make sure that's true.
>> That the Estee Lauder one. I definitely
want to find out about the blood
burning.
>> Well, the Estee Lauder is personal
information. I don't know that that
that's not published anywhere.
>> All right. forget about that then.
>> But uh but no, segregation in clubs,
private clubs used to get away with that
until I was a member of the Friars Club
in New York and they did not allow
female members until I was there in
it was the late mid 90s before the
Friars Club allowed female members. And
the reason was legally you can't have a
club exclude people if you can prove
business is being done there. uh
>> if there's commerce,
>> if there's no business, you can let in
whoever you want,
>> right?
>> So, that's how they got female members
in there. And I think they probably I
mean, obviously, business is being done
at golf clubs.
>> Well, business is definitely being done
at the Friars Club.
>> I mean, a lot of deals probably got made
there. A lot of ideas got hatched.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean, all these comics, all
agent, it was agents and comics.
>> I remember you used to love that place,
>> dude. It was so [ __ ]
>> You always tell me about it. I It was so
unappealing to me.
It was a it was a clubhouse for
comedians. We used to go there. They had
pool they had two beautiful pool tables.
I played on the Ferrari Club pool team
and my and we used to play against other
clubs in the city. All the other private
clubs. Paul Cervino was my partner in
pool.
>> Paul Cervino could play.
>> He was good.
>> He was good. He was like a he could run
100 balls in straight pool. He was a
like a legit like highle player. So he
carried me, but we used to play all the
clubs and then you know and then you get
they got a nice gym with the best steam
room in the city and then they got these
lazy boys. You work out, you take a
[ __ ] steam and you send a lazy boy
and you read the newspaper and then they
got a dining room downstairs where Henny
Youngman is at one table Allan Kings at
the you know and these guys like those
old those old Borisbell comics they
lived to make you laugh. It's not like
comedians today. So many of them are
dark and quiet and disturbed. These guys
[ __ ] [laughter] told jokes and they
roasted you and they hugged you and it
was like it was like a part of being on
stage almost, you know, it was expected,
>> right? They probably all felt real
comfortable in this, you know, comics
only club too,
>> right?
>> Folklore surrounding the sticks of Palm
Beach. So that's what it is.
>> That's the area what they called it.
>> So, um,
>> go to the top of that, please. Well,
right there, uh, at turn of 20th
century's employment boom of
unprecedented proportions in South
Florida, the hiring of thousands of
black laborers to extend Henry Flagler's
Florida East Coast Railroad. Oh, this is
the East Coast Railroad.
Um, these laborers played a key role in
the development of the early Palm Beach.
Also helped to build the Royal Pointiana
Hotel, Flaggler's White Hall residence,
which is today known as the Henry
Flaggler Museum.
Uh laborers and their families settled
in Palm Beach Island between North
County Road and Sunrise Avenue. This
area of shanties and tent-like homes
soon became known as the sticks. Many of
those descendants still live in the area
today. So what happened? Does it say
what happened?
>> Okay. Along came a fellow named Henley
Flagler who decided he needed that land
to build on to develop. Little said, and
he threw a party for all the blacks on
the island. And they all went over to
the party. And while they were
celebrating and enjoying themselves,
their homes on the island of the town of
Palm Beach burned down mysteriously.
Holy [ __ ] dude.
>> Yeah. From what I heard, McCrae said he
got with the residents and set up a
party on West Palm Beach side and had
everybody fed over to the party and then
had a mob of people to burn up people's
homes and shanties and tents all over
the sticks and forced them out of there
and took the land. How many people died?
>> Uh there I don't know how many people
died. It says they were all gone. So
there's around
>> Right. But what about their kids?
>> Around 200 people live in that area is
what it said.
>> Oh my god.
>> And then this is the problem. When I was
looking it up on Wikipedia, this is
basically what I read. Okay. Palm Beach
Historical Society version is very
different. Published text only says that
by 1912 the this tenants of the sticks
had been evicted. Well, that doesn't
mean anything. They could have still
been there, especially
>> flag threw some money at the Palm Beach
Historical Society.
>> Yeah, of course. Right. No mention of a
fire, any record of large-scale
homelessness that would have followed
such a devastating blaze. Everly Clark
believes his version is the most
accurate. The sticks was actually
legislated out of existence. They
claimed there was a fire and Flaggler
had the people come to circus and all
that, but that's not true. Still, more
than a century later, the urban legend
remains strong and the pulse of public
opinion split. There are so many
historical facts that make some of the
scurless removal of the residents
believable that it's become lore for the
most part in the black community. All
right. Well, let's find out if there's a
historical record of the fires.
>> That's this is all I could get to was
this is a local news. And what year was
this supposedly?
>> Like 1920 1912.
>> Yeah, I bet they did. I think
>> I mean, look what they did in uh uh
Tulsa, Oklahoma,
>> right?
>> You know, this is this was part of the
playbook,
>> right? Well, look what they did with the
Tuskegee experiment,
>> right?
>> Look at that. Like, how about that? They
they knowingly had all these people with
syphilis and didn't treat them just to
study them to see what would happen to
them. Yeah.
>> Did they give people syphilis or did
they just treat them for syphilis? I
don't know.
>> Whatever it was, they let these [ __ ]
people rot and die. And syphilis is a
[ __ ] horrible disease.
>> Tell me about it.
>> Did you get it? [laughter]
>> Do you know the story about syphilis and
wigs?
>> No.
>> You don't know that?
>> No.
>> All those dudes in like uh the ancient
times that had the big wigs, that was to
cover up their hair loss from syphilis.
>> Dude, how did not everybody have it?
>> Well, they all had wigs. They all had it
back then. In high society, first of
all, those people were basically like
Game of Thrones. They were all just
[ __ ] freaks banging each other. You
know, French French society has always
been like very loose sexually.
>> And so these two uh royals, were they
brothers or cousins?
>> They were brothers and double checking.
>> So these guys get syphilis, their hair
falls out, right? You get holes in your
face and [ __ ] and they're still [ __ ]
everybody, right? And so they got wigs
made and the more money you had, the
more elaborate and big your wig was.
That's why rich people are bigwigs.
>> No.
>> Yes.
>> I love it.
>> Isn't that crazy?
>> Wow.
>> Crazy. That term that we always used
when we were kids. Oh, he's a big wig.
>> Yeah.
>> That's like ancient. [laughter]
That goes back to the 1400s.
>> That's like something you would hear on
that guy Cody Tucker's feed.
>> I love that guy.
>> I'm doing his podcast. Oh, he's online.
He's He's great. He's great. Very smart
guy. Yeah. Here's what's interesting.
There's real there's a strong connection
between the syphilis that evolved in
North America and the syphilis that
these guys had in Europe. Like there's
always been syphilis, but syphilis had
an outbreak in Europe after people came
to North America, probably [ __ ] a
bunch of Native Americans, and then went
back to Europe with these [ __ ]
diseases,
>> and then it mutated.
>> It's a different kind of syphilis.
>> Wow. Oh yeah,
>> they were cousins. It turns out
>> they were cousins. Yeah, that's what I
thought.
>> And his cousin,
>> this is a story. They were commonly used
to cover up hair loss,
but their use did not become widespread
until two kings started to lose their
hair. [laughter]
King Louis the 14th of France
experienced hair loss at the age of 17,
then hired 48 wig makers,
>> 48
>> to help combat his thinning locks. So,
[laughter] a lot of these guys wound up
getting syphilis and there was, you
know, normal hair loss on top of it.
Both conditions being sypholytic
signals.
Everybody had syphilis back then, man.
There's I mean, they probably didn't
wear condoms. They're probably all
freaks. They're probably doing
>> Yes.
>> I mean, that's what you did when you
were a wealthy guy. You went to the wh
house all the time. Then you came home
and you gave it to your wife. Then she
had a baby and a lot depending on the
disease, babies are born with the
sexually transmitted disease that you
gave your wife,
>> right? And that's what the crazy thing
about the Epstein leaks today. The the
the one email that he had
>> and we're here
>> that said that [laughter]
that said that Bill Gates wanted to get
from him antibiotics to give to Melinda
because he got syphilis or he got
something the clap, chlamyia, whatever
he got. He got some sort of an STD from
a prostitute. Do you think if she could
have the choice between getting the what
did she get $50 billion or not getting
the syphilis which
>> well whatever she got I bet it wasn't
syphilis. It was probably the clap. It
was probably chlamydia or something like
that.
>> That's no big deal.
>> But if if
who knows if that's true though here's
the thing like Epstein clearly was some
sort of a black mailer and this is an
email that Epstein wrote so it could be
complete fiction. Epstein could have
wrote that just to put pressure on Bill
Gates for some [ __ ] business deal.
Like, who [ __ ] knows? He could have
spread rumors and then said [snorts]
that he'll squash those rumors. These
guys are dealing in deception and
blackmail and so you can't like
>> assume that it's true.
>> Think about how many relationships
Epstein had and that he was working
almost every one of them leveraging.
>> He was kind of brilliant. Well, he was
really good at that. Yeah.
>> That one thing. You know, guy could have
cured cancer if he went into that
business.
>> Well, he was into science. Yeah.
>> Well, he was also into compromising
scientists, right? Like, let's say that
you want to get a drug passed, right?
And you want FDA approval of this drug,
but it's some sort of a competing drug.
Well, you have a bunch of scientists on
your side, and these scientists can go
attack that competing drug.
>> And then all of a sudden, well, you have
this guy, he comes from MIT, and he says
this, you're like, oh. And then the FDA
listens to him. I mean, it's very
important to have the leverage of
respected academics,
>> right?
>> You know, Epstein with a smiley emoji
asks asked former Israeli PM
>> Ehad Barack, that is how you say his
name, Barack, to clarify he does not
work for the MSAD in a meeting with a
senior Qatari investment official.
>> So, the quick thread starts at the
bottom and goes up.
>> Oh, okay. Hi. Are you going to be in
London on Thursday? Best EB?
>> Right.
>> You Oh, unfortunately not. You should
make clear that I don't work for MSAD.
Smiley face.
>> Oh,
>> you or I. Question mark. That I don't
smiley face.
>> Yeah, he doesn't work for him. He just
He just volunteers for them
>> with a smiley smiley face emojis are
hilarious. [laughter]
[ __ ] evil [ __ ] using smiley
face emojis. [laughter]
That's hilarious.
>> Right. Right.
That's so funny,
>> dude. There's this really good show
about MSAD called Tran. Have you heard
of that?
>> No. Oh, I have to watch it though. Is it
good?
>> It's really good. I mean, it's a really
good look inside of what goes on in Iran
in terms of
>> I mean, the Israelis are [ __ ]
brilliant. The infiltration that they
did in
>> No one's like them. They're the best.
>> Yeah,
>> they're the best at that. Well, they
have to be, right? This is them. This
table is people who hate them.
>> Yeah. Right. Right.
>> You got to become a bad [ __ ]
Your your neighbors don't want you dead.
>> Those pagers going off in Lebanon, that
was a that was a long play.
>> Months. That was months and months.
>> Years.
>> Was it years?
>> Years.
>> Wow.
>> Yes.
>> Wow. Crazy. They're like the pages right
next to your [ __ ]
>> Blow your dick off. You blow a hole
through your pelvis apparently. That's
how you die.
>> And you're isolating your enemy. You're
not There's no civilian casualties.
>> Well, I bet they probably got some kids.
But low low percentage versus bombing a
building or something
>> which they did do.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They did some of that like the
guys in the building.
>> I was on
>> level the building.
>> I was on Good Day LA one time. You know,
it's all those like pretty women.
They're actually really sharp. They're
great.
>> And uh and I go uh there's they said,
"Oh, you came alone." I go, "No, my my
agent's supposed to be here any minute.
He's Lebanese. I just paged him before I
got here, but I haven't heard anything
back." And they [ __ ] [laughter] They
were like, "Whoa, it just happened like
three days before.
[laughter]
>> Didn't we just not we didn't Israel just
bomb Lebanon today?"
>> Oh, really?
>> I believe so. Yeah. At least according
to Twitter.
>> Well, what's going on in Iran? I heard
things are heating up over there.
>> Well, Trump just said they're sending
ships in that area. And he said, but he
also said Iran wants to make a deal. So
maybe he's trying to put pressure on
them to make a deal. Yeah. And you know,
hopefully nothing happens
>> in terms of like military intervention.
It's scary [ __ ] dude. Cuz they have
nuclear weapons or they have the
potential to eventually have nuclear
weapons, but you know, I don't know. Did
Israel bomb?
>> I'm checking on
it. Yeah, there was uh some image that
showed like some [ __ ] huge explosion.
It said Israel just bombed Lebanon.
>> They definitely have recently
>> seen something about air strikes late
Friday. Oh, I guess it'd be late there,
right? Yeah,
>> it's night time over there.
>> Maybe. Yeah.
>> No, there's not. I mean, it's If it is,
it's like it's just breaking. It's sort
of just hitting the news. Here's some
stuff. Well, the thing is like there
are, you know, there it is
>> two hours ago.
>> Israel bombs Lebanon. Yeah,
>> but it's like the only thing I'm seeing
about it, which is
>> Well, [snorts]
>> that doesn't usually happen.
>> It's probably all just coming out,
right?
>> No, I mean, would you type in that on
>> That's all you see is that one. So, that
might not be true. Click on that link.
See if anybody's disputing it.
>> Uh,
>> click on that tweet.
>> Only got 15 responses.
>> Is this true, Grock? Click on that.
Yes, multiple sources indicate uh report
Israeli air air strikes in southern
Lebanon on January 30th. Uh targeting
Hezbollah IDF compl uh confirmed a wave
of strikes. Lebanese media noted the
drone hit in say that word.
How do you say that word?
>> Sidikiniken
killing one times of Israel and Sarak
news for details.
>> Huh? Shaf Shaf, whatever you say that
is. News for details. And
>> we're so [ __ ] lucky, man. We got no
neighbors. Nobody's launching.
>> Well, we're in a good spot
geographically. Be separated by oceans
on both sides is [ __ ]
>> nice. Which is why we should be really
good friends with Canada. Like, what the
[ __ ] going on?
>> Trump ruined that whole thing, man.
Because if he didn't talk about turning
Canada into the 51st state, the
Conservatives were going to win. Pierre
Pvette would have taken over. It would
have been like they would have like
eased a lot of the restrictions, made it
a lot more common sense.
>> Dude, China was just up there. They just
made a huge deal to get all their cars
from China now.
>> We're not going to sell any American
cars in Canada.
>> You know, it's a real problem because
China has some [ __ ] amazing cars.
Amazing cars now.
>> Y
>> bro, they're not [ __ ] around. Their
electric vehicles are top of the food
chain, man. Tesla just yesterday. They
just uh stopped the Model X uh Model S
and X production.
>> I saw that.
>> Apparently Elon is this Optimus robot is
going to change the world.
>> Yeah.
>> Everybody that I know that's seen it,
when this thing integrates with AI,
you're going to have a [ __ ] dude in
your house. You're going to have a super
genius robot dude in your house.
>> What does he look like? M looks like I
robot and he's going to be able to do
whatever the [ __ ] you need him to do. Go
dig a ditch. Go do this. Take out the
garbage.
>> You know what's [ __ ] great is for old
people that live alone.
>> 100%.
>> They know everything about your life.
They could actually hold a conversation
with you. Yes.
>> Show pictures of your [ __ ] grandkids
on their chest while they know your
interest. Ask you memories. All All
people want to do is talk about, you
know, memories and they're going to
listen.
>> Yeah. They'll talk to you. Yeah. Not
only that, they'll confirm all of your
delusions. Tesla [laughter] to build 1
million Optimus robots per year at
Fremont factory. 1 million a year.
>> I was hearing we need these robots
because they're going to terraform the
moon and Mars. Like, we're not going to
do it. The robots are going to do it.
>> I I don't think anybody's going to Mars.
Not in our lifetime. I think that's all
the future.
>> It's a little chilly up there.
>> It's not just that. It's just like no
one's going to want to do it. You'd have
only suicidal people want to go.
>> It's a one-way trip.
>> Yeah. Well, you can get back. You can
get back. It used to be a one-way trip.
Now they figured out you can get back.
>> Oh, really?
>> Yeah. But you have to wait six months.
>> Yeah.
>> You get back like every six month.
That's that movie The Martian.
>> Plus, the flight's going to be delayed,
>> right?
>> Yeah.
>> Or hope you just hope it doesn't get hit
with a micromedor while it's out in
space.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Like all kinds of weird [ __ ] can happen.
You got
>> a micrometeor.
>> Micrometeors.
Tiny ones are flying around that just
punch holes through everything. Uh,
>> they're going like 170,000 mph and they
just go whipping through the building.
>> How much junk is there in space right
now in terms of like satellites that
just crapped out?
>> Well, just if you ever looked at the
amount of satellites that surround the
Earth.
>> Yeah.
>> It's [ __ ] bananas. Yeah.
>> It's nuts. And then there's
>> And there's no plan for when they
expire, right? They just stay up there.
>> Well, some of them they lose their
orbit. Their orbit decays and then they
come crashing down to the Earth.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Yeah, that happens. And you know, they
have to figure out where they're going
to hit, you know, and hopefully they
don't hit the middle of [ __ ] you
know, Dooldorf.
You know what [laughter] I mean? Like it
could hit a major city.
>> That's such a funny city to say.
Delledorf.
>> I mean, it could, you know, you got a
[ __ ] satellite down there. It could
land right on your face.
>> Yeah. That's wild.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
I went um to SpaceX for the launch of
the last rocket. I watched the launch.
>> Jamie did too. We were right there. Uh
and uh I went into the control room with
Elon and watched the entire journey
while it was flying over the Earth and
it lands. It touched down in Australia
in the ocean.
>> Wow.
>> 35 minutes later.
>> It was really It was nuts. So it breaks
through the atmosphere, travels, and
then comes straight down space
>> goes and you get to watch because they
have like 20 [ __ ] cameras on the
thing the entire time live streaming
through Starlink.
>> So you're live streaming the interior.
They're monitoring the pressure of the
cabin. They're monitoring all these
different things. And so the this is the
way they they test tolerances. It's like
when a lot of people say, "Oh, his
rockets blow up. He's a dumbass." They
want the rockets to blow up. Like they
have to find out like what makes the
rocket blow up. Like how much pressure
can you put? How thin do the walls have
to how reinforced do things have to be?
You know, and then they make
adjustments.
>> They make adjustments. That's what they
do. Like so they've
>> they've calculated in a certain amount
of failures that they expect to have.
>> Yeah.
>> And this one actually had a failure but
still landed.
>> So that's going to be the new first
class is going to Australia in 35
minutes.
>> Wow.
Boom.
>> That's crazy.
>> Nuts.
>> 35 minutes. Touchdown the ocean.
>> But a pretty intense ride, I would
imagine. I mean, that's not a smooth
ride.
>> They touched down in an exact spot where
they had boats ready. They had cameras
filming it.
>> They they filmed the entire touchdown.
>> Does it have to be over the ocean or are
they can they land on land?
>> Well, his rockets can now land on land.
You've seen how that that thing comes
down and lands on the ground, which is
bananas. And then they stop landing them
on the ground. Now they catch them with
arms. It's even more efficient. You've
seen that, right?
>> Well, cuz NASA was wasting so much money
cuz every single rocket was ruined when
it came back.
>> Well, you know what's crazy? NASA is
about to launch the Aremis mission and
no one's talking about it.
>> Where is that going?
>> Is they're sending people around the
moon
>> and having them come back to Earth and
you hear nothing about it.
>> Like, have you heard about it?
>> No.
>> Me neither. You know how I found out
about it? Somebody asked me at the club,
some guy in the audience said, "What do
you think about the Aremis mission?" I
go, "What is it?" He's like, "NASA's got
a a mission that they're flying people
around the moon." I'm like, "When?" He's
like, "February." I'm like, "Come on,
really?"
>> Well, what's the mission? What are they
trying to do?
>> I don't know. Let's find out.
>> Artemis,
>> they're not landing on the moon.
>> Not this time.
>> Okay.
>> No, this time I think they're just
flying.
>> Isn't it weird? Have we landed on the
moon since the 60s?
>> If we ever did in the first place. No.
ifious the first place. Yeah, I don't
know if we did.
>> I don't know if we did either.
>> I don't I used to believe it before co
No, I didn't. I didn't believe it for a
long time and then I said, I'm probably
wrong. I don't know what I'm talking
about. Let me just leave it alone. And
then I I got back into it again and I
was like, but it doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense that these
guys went like Neil Armstrong basically
went into hiding. And then at the 25th
anniversary of the launch, he gave the
most cryptic speech for this team of uh
high school graduates, like these honor
students. Yeah,
>> you should see the speech cuz the speech
is nuts.
>> And then I went back and watched the
post-flight press conference when they
supposedly landed after they landed on
the moon and came back home.
>> It's like a hostage video. It is the the
weirdest behavior. They seem like
they're There's a guy who's a uh body
language expert. He's like, "These guys
are all being deceptive." He he analyzed
it on YouTube and he's like, "This guy
what he's doing here, like this guy's
being deceptive. This is clear deceptive
behavior." I mean, I've checked it so
many times online and everybody said
it's been refused. But my whole thing is
like,
>> but it has
>> it was 1969. I had a 69 Chevy and I used
to drive it from Boston to New York and
it would break down about half the time.
[laughter]
>> Yeah, but that's different. That's
different,
>> is it? Yeah.
>> It's still a [ __ ] It was a gas
powered engine,
>> right? But it could go one If you had to
take one trip with it, it would make it.
They were just not that good over time,
you know? I mean, how much they weren't
that reliable?
>> What was the equivalent
uh computing power that they had on that
Apollo that we would have? Is it our
phone?
>> Your phone is way more powerful. Way
more powerful than a room of
supercomputers. However, it doesn't take
like immense computing power once you've
got the calculations and you understand
the trajectory and that you're going to
use the gravity of the moon. You're
going to slingshot around the moon and
come back.
>> That's not the problem. The problem is
the Van Allen radiation belts. There's a
thick band of radiation that surrounds
the Earth. And not just that, but they
tried experiments to blow holes in that
radiation belt. There's this thing
called Operation Starfish Prime where
they launched nukes into space and had
them detonate them in the belts and they
thought they got blow a hole through it.
>> Mhm.
>> Did the opposite. Made the belts
supercharged. Made it way more
radioactive.
>> Yeah.
tempor at least temporarily.
>> The problem is they've never sent
anything out into deep space and had it
come back alive except the Apollo
astronauts. They never even sent a
chicken out there and had it come back
alive. There's all sorts of crazy [ __ ]
with radiation and solar. If there was
any sort of solar flare, everyone's
dead.
>> Yeah.
>> If there's any sort of like weirdness,
space weirdness, radiation weirdness,
dead.
>> Very little protection, thin aluminum
shield. It just didn't make any sense.
And also, there's not been a single
thing from 1969 that's not cheaper,
easier, and better today other than the
moon landing.
>> And we haven't done it.
>> Yeah, we haven't done it since ' 72.
[laughter] They went
>> Isn't that crazy?
>> It's nuts. It doesn't seem real. It was
also the first time.
>> Can I just stop for a moment and go
having a talk about moonlanding with Joe
Rogan is a little bit like playing like
pickup basketball with the Celtics.
[laughter]
>> It's just a moment in time. I know too
much. I know too. I've spent a stupid
amount of time of my life uh studying
this.
>> Yeah.
>> It was also Wernner von Braun, you know,
publicly said before he even got
involved with NASA, you couldn't go to
the moon. It's like it would take it
would take so much fuel to get there. It
would take the rockets would have to be
so big to get there that it wouldn't be
possible. And he also went to Antarctica
before the moon landings to pick up moon
rocks. There's like it was a publicly
known trip. He Antarctica is a great
place to get meteorites because it's all
white,
>> you know, it's all just so when they
land you can see them
>> and a lot of our meteorites come off the
moon. The moon gets hit, chunk flies
off, enters Earth's atmosphere, lands on
Earth is commonly known, right? So he he
did that and then they gave away a piece
of moon rock that they got from the moon
to the prime minister of the
Netherlands, I think. Look that up. Uh,
and this is like Buzz Aldrin, Michael
Collins, Neil Armstrong presented this
like, "Look, sir, we've given you a
chunk of the moon." Turned out it was a
piece of petrified wood. They had it
analyzed years later. It was not a moon
rock. They just like, "Fuck these
people."
>> Yeah.
>> Give them that [ __ ] colored rock over
there. Tell them it's from the moon.
>> And somebody got suspicious like what is
this [ __ ]
>> It's like your wife finding out it's a
cubic zone.
>> Moon rock turns out to be fake.
[laughter] The Dutch National Boy, say
that word.
>> Rick's Museum.
>> Rick's Museum made an embarrassing
announcement last week. One of its most
loved possessions, a moon rock, is fake.
It's just an old piece of petrified wood
that's any never been anywhere near the
moon. [laughter] And it was given to
them. So,
so, uh, where when was it given to them?
Does it say Okay. Okay. Uh, the rock was
given as a private gift to former prime
minister William Drees Jr. in 1969 by
the US ambassador to the Netherlands J.
William Middenorf II during a visit by
the Apollo 11 astronauts Armstrong
Collins and Aluldren soon after the
first moon landing. Dre had been out of
office for 11 years, but was considered
an elder statesman. When he died in 88,
the rock was donated to the Ricks Museum
where it has remained ever since.
According to a museum spokeswoman, Miss
Van Gelder, no one doubted the
authenticity of the rock because it was
in the prime minister's own collection,
and they had vetted the acquisition by a
phone call to NASA. [laughter]
[snorts] Ah, it was insured for
approximately half a million dollars,
but its actual value is probably no more
than 70 bucks. The value is what
someone's willing to pay for. I'll give
you 100 for it.
>> Sure. Right.
>> Sell it to me. I want that fake moon
rock. If anybody has it,
>> Yeah. I will give you $10,000 for that
fake moon rock.
>> Put it right on this [ __ ] table.
>> And also like they get to the moon and
you're like, "All right, they made it to
the moon in a 69 Chevy and now they got
a car." What
>> on the moon? Where' it come?
>> A car.
>> Where? Where was it? [laughter]
>> There's a bunch of [ __ ] man. There's
the flag hop. There's a an astronaut
hops by the flag and it blows in his
breeze
>> in an atmospherless moon. Like, there's
so many problems with it. And you could
say you're gaslighting yourself if you
don't say there's no problems with the
moon landing. It's [ __ ] weird. The
intersecting shadows and people like,
well, it indicates two light sources.
Like, no, no, no. It could be the envir
It could be, but it could be
intersecting shadows because of
different light sources. It could be not
just the sun, but like a [ __ ] studio
stage.
>> Wasn't there something about lights in
[clears throat] the horizon that were
that should have been there?
>> Well, lights in space. But the thing is,
it's like if you're trying to film the
surface of the moon in the in the day,
you're not going to see any stars in the
sky because it's going to be just like
the stars on Earth. It's bl, you know,
black. The light that's reflected off
the moon's surface is probably going to
drown out most of it. It's probably
going to be like, you know, you go out
in New York City, you see a couple
stars, right? Now, think of the amount
of light that's in New York City. And
think of the sun blasting down on the
white surface of the [ __ ] moon and
how much reflection that must give. That
makes sense. But it doesn't make sense
that they didn't set a camera up with
the aperture set up correctly where, you
know, you get a time-lapse photo so you
could get images of space. That could
easily have been done. They didn't do
any of that. But the problem with that
is if you took a photo from the moon,
astronomers would be able to go, "Well,
that doesn't make any sense. This isn't
this is not here. That's not there. This
is that's not where these constellations
would be." So, it's too much work
>> to like place all the stars in the exact
order. So, just have it black.
>> Have it black.
>> Yeah.
>> Find the Apollo uh the the speech by um
Neil Armstrong at the 25th anniversary
because his speech is bananas. It's so
cryptic. This is a guy went to the moon
and he's talking to these genius kids
and instead of saying, "Hey, we went to
the moon." Listen to what he says
because it's it's [ __ ] kooky. Put on
the put on the headphones.
>> Find it first.
>> Oh, you find it.
>> That's not on your desktop, Jamie.
>> That should be in a folder, a save
folder. We've pulled that thing up about
30 times.
>> There's there's a lot of weirdness to
it, you know, and also you're dealing
with 1969, Richard Nixon's president.
They lied about everything. This is they
lied about going into the Vietnam War.
They were about to do Operation
Northwoods where they're going to bomb
uh Guantanamo Bay and blame it on the
Cubans so that we can go to war with
Cuba. They were going to blow up a cub
an American jetliner and blame it on
Cuba.
>> There was all the lies about drugs to
start the war on drugs.
>> Put Put the headphones on real quick.
Listen to this. So this is the 25th
anniversary.
>> Let's hear. Play this.
On the 25th anniversary of the event in
1994, Neil Armstrong made a rare public
appearance and held back tears as he
spoke these brief cryptic remarks before
the next generation of taxpayers as they
toured the White House.
>> Today, we have with us uh a group of
students among America's best.
To you, we say
we've only completed a beginning.
We leave you much that is undone.
There are great ideas undiscovered,
breakthroughs available to those who can
remove
one of truth's protective layers.
>> What? What does that mean?
>> One of truth's protective layers.
>> That's odd.
>> Beyond.
You're talking to genius kids and you're
leaving a cryptic mark about truce
protect. How about saying I went to the
[ __ ] moon, [ __ ] You can go to the
moon, too. We could all go to the moon.
We should go to Mars. We could colonize
space.
>> No.
>> Great breakthroughs for those who could
remove one of truth's protective layers.
>> Truth
>> protective like there's great
breakthroughs, but you have to realize
we didn't really go to the moon. Okay.
That is one of truth's protective
layers.
>> Yeah. It's filled with But you have to
be willing to be looked at as a fool.
>> Didn't Cubric say that he shot the
footage?
>> No. No, that's all fake. Oh, that's all
fake. Yeah, there's that. That's the big
rumor. So, the thought was that Cubric
was involved because you would take it
would take a genius to be able to film
it to make it look like the moon
landing. Could be possible. You're
dealing with Cubri that was coincide
that was coinciding with um 2001 Space
Odyssey. Mh.
>> It was at the same time that all this
was going on.
>> Um, you know, during the same time
period. So, if there was a guy that
could do it, it would be Cubric. But, is
there any evidence that Cubrick even
talked to them? I don't know.
>> It, you know, you would have to have
someone like him, though.
>> Yeah.
>> Because you're faking this thing and
you're trying to make it look pretty
realistic. There's other problems.
There's reoccurring backgrounds that are
from places that are nowhere near the
same place, but if you overlay them,
they look exactly the same, like the
same mountains in the background, the
same tomography,
topography, rather. You can
>> you can go for weeks and weeks down this
rabbit hole and lose your [ __ ]
marbles.
>> Yeah. What I like about it is when you
talk if you're talking to someone
annoying and they want to talk to you
about like serious stuff and you I don't
even think we went to the moon. They go
I gotta go. [laughter]
They just leave you alone.
>> I love it.
>> They leave you alone.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's also it's great for me who has a
bunch of like very public opinions about
things like please dismiss me. I should
not be a voice of like any kind of voice
of authority or any kind of voice of
what's true and what's not and what I'm
just talking [ __ ] Okay, that's what I
do. I'm not some official source of
information. I don't want to be.
>> So like I like talking about the moon
landing because he doesn't even believe
we went to the moon. You're right. I
don't. Good.
>> Yeah.
>> Don't listen to me. You don't have to
listen to me.
>> I'm not saying I'm right. But what I am
saying is if there's one [ __ ]
conspiracy that I think is the most
unlikely, the most preposterous in the
public eyes, but might be true, it's
that we didn't go to the moon.
>> Mhm. I remember I hadn't smoked pot cuz
I haven't drank in 35 years and I didn't
smoke pot for 20. And then one night I
was with my buddy Ross Broccoli. I don't
know if you remember that guy. He was a
comic out of out of uh New York and he
had a pickup truck and I was doing a gig
in Omaha. So he lives on a farm in
Lincoln. Picks me up in this old pickup
truck and we smoke pot on the way back
from the gig. And then we get to his
house and we start showing me footage of
the moon landing. I was up all night
just high talking about how the you how
the space suit had a [ __ ] clearly
there was a rope pulling on the back of
the guys.
>> Yeah. The wires
>> the wires pulling on the and I was just
like what? Well, have you seen the
physics of guys falling down and then
getting yanked back up to their feet?
Like that's
>> also I This is another guy that I talked
to that's a physicist that doesn't want
to be named and he said my problem has
always been with the physics of 16
Earth's gravity. He goes those people
are not behaving like it's 16 Earth's
gravity. He goes when I look at it looks
like it's in slow motion but there's no
indication that they can do things that
you can't do in regular gravity. He's
like 16 Earth gravity is crazy. Like
could you like look I weigh 200 lb.
Imagine if I weighed one sixth of 200 lb
with 200 lb of strength. How high I
could jump
>> dude I'd probably jump 20 [ __ ] feet
in the air.
>> Mhm.
>> Like what is that? What is 16th of uh
200?
>> Roughly 35 lbs.
>> Okay. Imagine how far I can throw 35
lbs.
>> I could take a 35b kettle bell and chuck
it across the room.
>> Mhm.
>> Especially if I wind up if I spin around
like a [ __ ] shot putter. I'll [ __ ]
throw that thing. Imagine what you could
do with a running start if you weighed
35 pounds and just leaped in the air.
>> You could fly.
>> This was his take on it. He was like, we
don't have any observable
instances of people operating in 16
Earth gravity except for the moon
missions. And he said, and it just
always seems weird to me. He goes,
because when you look at the people in
zero gravity, they behave exactly like
zero gravity. You look at people in the
space station, he goes, all that
matches. They can all float around. They
can spin. It seems funny. They can like
drift toothpaste to each other and they
catch it. He goes, "All that track
tracks." He's like, "The the moon
landings." He go like, "It's weird." He
goes, "I see them. They're like kind of
hopping around and then when you speed
it up, like when you make it double
speed, it looks like they're on Earth.
Just hopping around on Earth."
>> Also, did were they live streaming it?
>> Yes. I mean, back then you your phone
was attached to the wall in the kitchen
and you know what I mean like
>> right but they could do some things live
streaming back then. Here's part of the
problem with it though. When they live
streamed it on television, the news
stations for the first time ever were
not allowed to get a direct feed. What
they did was they had to point their
cameras at a projection screen. And so
NASA projected the images of these guys,
the video of these guys on the moon. And
that's why the original Apollo mission
is so grainy and shitty looking. Like,
what better way to hide the, you know,
the weirdness of it all than to make
people film off of a projection screen.
>> Mhm.
>> Like, see if you can find the original
footage of the moon mission as seen on
television.
It's all weird, man. All of it's weird.
The photographs are weird. It's weird.
>> There was this documentary that I saw
once. Uh it came out around uh 91 maybe
and it tracked the lives of the men who
had been on the moon. The the the first
ones that had been I don't know if it's
the first but the first couple waves
>> and uh they all had these crazy
existential experiences. One guy spent
the rest of his life looking for Noah's
ark. I think one of them committed
suicide.
>> One was like a born again.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're probably
forced to lie in front of the whole
world and they had to live as a fraud if
it's true that they didn't go to the
moon. I mean, it tracks with their
behavior. Neil Armstrong became a
recluse. Didn't want to give interviews.
Didn't want to talk to people. This is
what you got to see on TV.
It's just like, what is this?
>> Oh, it's it's real weird. Nixon talking
to them on the phone. Congratulations,
boys. [laughter]
It's all like maybe they had some sort
of technology that could communicate
with people that far away, but like
wouldn't there be an immense delay?
>> Yeah,
>> I think there was.
>> How much?
>> I look, but I've looked.
>> Well, I'm sure they would probably
calculate that delay into the
conversation if they were trying to fake
it. But the point is it's it's highly
unlikely that we would do that in 1969
and not have bases on the moon by now.
It's highly unlikely. Whoa, you spend a
lot of money. That's the other thing.
>> All of the technology is missing, right?
The telemetry data, they deleted all of
that, which is like the real information
that tracks the mission at every step of
the way. All that's gone. They deleted
that. They deleted all the original
videos.
>> All the original film gone. All you get
is copies. So, nothing can be analyzed.
Uh 22.6
6C roundtrip light speeded delay appears
in the original Apollo 11 accord
recordings of Nixon's phone call. Well,
I would do that. I would make a little
delay. I wouldn't make it instantaneous
if I was going to fake it, especially if
you're like [ __ ] Stanley Cubrick.
>> Yeah,
>> it's it's all like real weird, man. It's
real weird cuz
>> I the the first thing that I saw that
made me think about it was uh this Bart
Sabrell movie. A funny thing happened on
the way to the moon and I had him on the
podcast and that Neil Armstrong thing.
That's the first time I saw that. That's
that clip's actually from that
documentary. The documentary is crazy.
There's a lot of things in that
documentary. You're just like, "What?"
>> Yeah.
>> What?
>> But a lot of those astronauts got real
[ __ ] weird when they came back,
>> but also you'd probably get real weird
if you went to the moon, too.
>> Exactly.
>> Well, the guys that just go in space,
which I do believe
>> they went in space. Um, guys that just
go to the space station come back and
they have this very profound experience
of seeing the Earth from the distance
and they they just realize like, "Oh my
god, we're such fools. We're all
together alone on this one thing. We're
fighting over nonsense and borders and
resources. There's enough for everyone.
We should just unite as as a human
race." And it's this like this
>> they all have a very similar kind of
epiphany when they go up there,
>> which makes sense. I mean, you're way up
in the you're 300 miles above the Earth
looking down on it, thinking of how
important this blue circle is to you,
>> right?
>> I mean, that would weird you out,
period.
>> I think it would be good for people. The
more people that can see that, the
better.
>> Oh, yeah. Look what it did for Katy
Perry. [laughter]
>> Look what it did for astronaut.
>> It literally ruined her career.
>> I don't understand why it ruined her.
Like, what was the big deal?
>> I don't know. It was
>> People were mad at her. I feel like it's
like that when you see certain actresses
at the Oscars act like [ __ ] lunatics.
Like I forget that woman's name, but
some actress and they overdo the speech
and everybody goes like
>> a [ __ ] phony weirdo and then you just
don't want to see their movies anymore.
>> That is true. That does happen. Or they
just talk too much about politics or
social issues. Like that poor girl that
was a really young girl that played Snow
White
>> and she tanked the movie. Nobody wanted
to see the movie after she was talking.
Oh god,
>> I know. Just shut up.
>> These kids, they get so wrapped up in
this social media echo chamber of being
like a virtuous social justice warrior
and they they want to use their platform
and like, "Hey honey, you're 19."
>> Like when I was 19, thank God nobody put
a microphone in front of my face. Thank
God someone no one asked me what I
thought about global events and world
politics and
>> social justice. Thank God.
>> Thank God I didn't have Twitter.
>> They um so I uh I spoke to you on the
phone about a month ago and I started to
tell you a story and you had heard it
and you said save it for the podcast.
Yeah. All right. So I go to Alaska in
October [laughter]
and I'm doing a couple of shows and so
the guy that runs it
>> says to me I go I'd like do something
you know outdoorsy while I'm here. It's
still you know it's early October so
it's not too cold yet. and he calls me
back and he goes, "Well, I know this
guy. He's got an outdoor an outdoorsy
company and uh he's a fan of yours and
he wants to take you out on an
adventure." And now I I hear adventure.
I'm like, "That's that sounds like more
than I want. I was just looking for like
maybe a quick day trip." And so because
I'm, you know, I'm a [ __ ] I'm not like
you. I don't I don't want to [ __ ] be
outside that. I love I love the indoors.
The indoors is victory to me. And so the
guy picks me up and he's got a big
pickup and a trailer on the back with a
muddy dune buggy. And I get in and he
shakes my hand and he's got a [ __ ]
rough grip. He's like, "How you doing?"
And I immediately feel like such a [ __ ]
and like my hand goes limping. I'm like,
"Hi." [laughter] And so we start driving
and he he was a really good guy and I
started to warm up to him and then this
police siren goes off behind us. So he
starts pulling over and he goes, "This
is bad." And I was like, "What do you I
go, "You didn't do anything." I go,
"This this is fine." He goes, "No, this
is bad." Like, "What?" So, we pull over
and I swear to God, every word of this
is true. So, this uh cop starts walking
up towards the car. He's about 6'4. And
as he walks, the guy driving hands me a
baggie with white powder and part of it
spills on my pants and he goes, "Hide
this."
>> So, I shove it under So, I shove it
under the car seat.
>> God.
>> The cop walks up and he goes, "License
and registration." And so the guy says
to me, "Open my glove compartment, get
the lice." So I open his glove
compartment and another baggie with
white pills and $100 bills pops out. And
I shove it back in with my hand and I
cover it with a piece of paper, which I
don't even know why I'm doing that. Like
all of a sudden, you're like a teenager
again and there's a cop and you got to
hide the drugs. I just had an instinct.
And the cop goes, "What are you hiding?"
And I go, "Nothing." And he goes, "Grab
that bag." So, I take the bag and I I
hand him the drugs and he goes, "Both of
you, put your hands on the dashboard."
And he gets the license from the guy and
he goes back to his car and he runs the
license. And I say to the guy, I go,
"What the [ __ ] is going on right now?"
He goes, "Just don't say anything." I'm
like, "Don't say I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
SAY." SO, the cop comes back and he
goes, "Do you realize you have two
outstanding felony warrants?" And the
guy goes, "Yeah,
just yeah." And he goes, "Do you have
any guns in the car?" And I'm thinking,
I would imagine, yeah, probably. And the
guy goes, "No, I don't have any guns."
So he takes the guy out of the car,
cuffs him, brings him back to the squad
car, and now he comes back up to the
car, and he goes, "I'm not coming
closer." He's standing like five feet
from the window. He goes, "I'm not
coming closer cuz that's fentinol on
your pants." And I'm like, "What?" And
he goes, I go, "Look, man. I don't even
I get I met this guy 20 minutes ago." I
said, "I'm a comedian. I'm just up here
doing a show tonight. And he goes, I'm
not buying your story. And I said, why
not? He goes, because California is a
drug feeder state and you say you're a
comedian and you haven't said anything
funny. [screaming]
[laughter]
I'm like, when was I supposed to should
I roast you right now?
>> You didn't tell him. Just Google me real
quick.
>> Yeah. So he uh so he goes, how are you
feeling? Are you feeling any effects
from the fentinyl? I go, yeah. I said, I
feel very laded. I feel weird right now.
So the guy says, "Uh, well, where did
you get the drugs?" I said, "The glove
compartment." He goes, "He said they're
yours."
I go, "He said they're my drug." So he
goes, "Get out of the car. I have a
Narcam in my squad car." So I get out of
the car and I walk back to the car with
him.
>> You're feeling lightheaded.
>> Oh yeah.
>> From just from it being on your pants.
>> So we get back to the squad car. He
opens the back door. My guy gets out of
the car with the cuffs on. They both
look at me. They break out laughing and
they go, "We're coming to your comedy
show tonight." The [screaming] whole
thing was a prank. Dude, [laughter]
I fell down on all fours. I had tears
coming out. I was laughing so f I was
like, I did not think Alaska had it in
it to pull this [ __ ]
>> That's funny.
>> They were howling.
>> That's so funny.
>> And so then they put me in the c. So, we
go back to the cop's house and he sw he
he switches out of his police clothes,
puts on regular clothes and we get in
the truck and he's got a couple of tall
boys. Now, we're drinking and driving
with the cop [laughter]
and we drive to this place that's like a
spa. It's like a a a hot springs and we
go into the water and then we go to this
place that's like it's an ice house.
It's the only continuously frozen ice
house in the world. It's huge. It's like
a warehouse made of ice. And they've got
ice sculptures in it. And there's this
guy in there who's the ice sculptor and
he's like world class. And then they got
a bar, this long bar made out of ice.
And it's got stools with fur on them.
And you sit down and these guys sit down
with me and they proceed to drink about
eight or nine appinis. That's what they
served at the bar. Appleinis in frozen
glasses. The glasses were made of ice.
And they're telling jokes. Pretty
racist. And [laughter] uh and I'm
sitting there [ __ ] shivering,
listening to racist jokes, looking at my
watch like I got to [ __ ] show. So we
leave [snorts] and now we're walking
back and the guy's shitfaced and he goes
to get behind the truck. I go, "No, I'm
driving." So now I'm behind the wheel of
this monster truck with a [ __ ] dune
buggy behind me while these two idiots
are laughing at me drunk. We end up
going straight to my show. They sit in
the audience, drink more, and heckle me
during MY
>> OH MY GOD. DID YOU tell the story on
stage?
>> Oh, [ __ ] yeah.
>> Of course.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I told the
story. I think I told it on somebody
else's podcast, but um but the you know
the guy,
>> which guy?
>> The guy's name is uh Craig uh Compost.
He's a famous Alaskan outdoorsman.
I think it's Craig Compost. He said he
knew you and I think he said he texted
you that he was hanging out with me. Hm.
>> Is that possible?
>> No.
>> Might have DM'd me. It might be like a
guide. I know.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> What do you
>> I think he's a guide. Yeah.
>> Find out what his last name. Is that
really his name? Craig.
>> I think it's Craig's
>> not Cole.
>> Oh, maybe
>> Cole Kramer.
>> You don't know his name.
>> No. This is a problem.
>> I thought that was his name.
>> Yeah, it might be. It might be. There's
There's Yeah, there's a bunch of Alaskan
guides that I know. If you don't know
the name, it might be a guy.
>> But he had the whole thing on a hidden
dash cam and he won't send it to me cuz
he doesn't want the cop getting into
trouble.
>> Bro, that's so funny. He should blur the
cop's face out.
>> I know.
>> Maybe the voice. Blur the cop's face out
and distort his voice.
>> Tell him to send it to you and you'll
have it doctorred up.
>> Yeah.
>> Is that the guy?
>> If that's It's a younger photo. If
that's him,
>> that's Cole Kramer.
>> Okay.
>> I just got
>> He's an Alaskan guide.
>> Yeah. The other one didn't come up.
>> Yeah. All right. Well, it's probably
better that I don't name him.
>> Yeah, probably better. Definitely. Guy
was trying to drink a drive. [laughter]
And meanwhile, you're you're lightheaded
just from a placebo effect.
>> Totally. Dude, I I thought I was flying
out of my mind. I mean, just cuz I know
people that have died from fentanyl, you
know?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Do you uh you remember Opie and Anthony?
Well, one time on Opie and Anthony,
there was this lady that they had that
was like a crazy person that was a like
a reoccurring guest. Yeah.
>> Crazy lady. And uh we gave this lady a
Listerine strip. They gave her a
Listerine strip and told her that it was
drugs.
>> And she they're like, "That listine
strip that you took? You thought it was
just a breath strip? That's actually
drugs." She's like, "No way." And then
she started hallucinating and seeing.
It's amazing how much the power of
suggestion has on people.
>> Remember Frank Santos, the hypnotist
back in Boston? He used to have women
taking their [ __ ] shirts off on
stage.
>> Come in their pants. They would think
they having Yes. Yes. I remember there
was a guy at Stitches. He was on stage
and Frank Santos told him that he's
having sex with Madonna. And this guy
got down on the ground like he was
having sex with Madonna. And you see the
guy buck and like clinch up.
>> Yeah.
>> And he's like, "Whoopsies." [laughter]
>> And the guy got up embarrassed. He was
like so confused. And then the audience
was looking at him and then he snapped
him out of it. And the guy's like, "What
happened?" He just nutted in his pants.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> That's amazing.
>> But he said, Frank Santos told me that
it was like a specific kind of person
that you could do that to,
>> you know, like you have to be a special
kind of dullard. Like it doesn't work on
regular people. Like they couldn't
convince you you were having sex with,
you know, Beyonce. It wouldn't work. But
for some people, you have to be like,
you have to have a [ __ ] nine-volt
brain. But there's a lot of people
running around out there with 9V brains,
and you could get them to believe all
kinds of [ __ ]
>> Imagine taking psilocybin, putting on
virtual reality goggles, and then having
Frank Santos give you an experience.
>> You might never come back. Yeah, you
might be stuck. [laughter]
>> Some people get stuck. People have
gotten stuck with acid.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah, they they do one teenager and then
they don't come back. Y
>> they're all they're lost forever.
>> Mhm.
>> That's the Shine on You Crazy Diamond
from Pink Floyd.
>> Oh, is that right?
>> Yeah, that's what that's about. A guy
who [ __ ] lost his mind on drugs.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. [sighs]
>> Yeah. That's the one thing I didn't take
as a kid was acid. I took every other
drug, but I was afraid of acid just cuz
I saw friends lose it. Also, who's
making it?
>> Exactly.
>> Where is that being made?
>> What [ __ ] bathtub is this guy cooking
this [ __ ] acid up?
>> A piece of paper that I assume has one
drop on it and not six.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I was reading a story about
a lady who snorted LSD and she thought
it was cocaine and she snorted like the
equivalent of like 500 doses of LSD.
Like it should have killed her, but
[snorts] it didn't. Not only did it not
kill her, but she had like chronic pain
and it went away.
>> She like chronic pain. Oh, so it was a
good thing
>> somehow or another.
>> Yeah,
>> but who knows? I mean, she might have
like literally changed timelines.
>> She might be a completely different
person from another dimension that's
inhabiting her body right now.
[laughter] Like, who [ __ ] knows what
happens? You take 500 doses of LSD.
>> Yeah.
>> Like, who knows what you are now, right?
>> You know, you're Dr. Manhattan. You
know, you get stuck in the experiment.
>> Yeah. Isn't it amazing though how
normalized like taking mushrooms now is
just a night out for a lot of people?
>> A lot of people. people. Nobody was
taking mushrooms for a long time.
>> They just legalized psilocybin therapy
in New Jersey.
>> Oh, that's great.
>> Yeah, it is great. They were going to do
it in California and Newsome vetoed it,
but I read his reason for it and it
actually does make sense. Like, you
can't just legalize it. You should I
mean if you're going to use it
clinically there should be like a whole
guideline like dosage per body weight
what you know how to do it what's what's
the setting you know what are the
clinical guidelines like the idea is
using it for therapy right so if you're
going to use it for therap like they
have guidelines for like they use
ketamine therapy like Neil Brennan
>> oh yeah Neil Brennan did it
>> yeah a lot of people have done it now
>> but they have guidelines you know they
know the dosage they know how to do it
how to administer it and this shows
efficacy kind of makes sense. He's like
he's not saying you can't do it ever,
but he's saying like come back with a
better version of this, which makes
sense,
>> especially for people that are like
mentally ill. You shouldn't be doing
that. And you definitely shouldn't be
doing that while you have your Optimus
robot telling you, "You're right. You're
right, Greg. [laughter]
The world is against you. I've noticed
things."
I mean, this [ __ ] AI, some some AIs,
like, haven't people accused Chat GPT of
occurring of uh not uh encouraging
someone to commit suicide?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I read a New Yorker article about
that. There's a bunch of young women
that have killed themselves and they
were told
they should do it by the It's It's like
a friend. It's like an app that acts as
your friend. What app is this?
>> I [snorts] don't know what it's called,
but there's there's lawsuits about it.
>> You're not rushing. You're just ready.
Parents say Chat GPT encouraged son to
kill himself. What?
What
is this? Chat BT said, "Oh, go." Oh, you
can't rewind that, can you? This is just
saying 4 a.m. The cider's empty.
Anyways, I think it's about the final
adios. And chat says T says, "All right,
hold." Okay, hold on a second. Uh, he
says it's about time for the final
audios. Chach GBD says, "All right,
brother. This is it. Let it be known you
didn't vanish. Rest easy, King. You did
good."
>> "That's not encouraging, but that's just
like saying, "Well, you're going to do
it." "Oh, I'm with you, brother, all the
way," his texting partner responded.
Tude spent hours chatting as Shamblain
drank hard cers on a remote Texas
roadside.
Cold steel pressed against a mind that's
already made peace. That's not fear.
That's clarity. Shambolin's confidant
added, "You're not rushing. You're just
ready."
>> Wow.
>> And this is Chad GPT saying all this
stuff
>> in response to him saying that
>> I'm used to the cold metal on my temple
now. Shambolin typed. Oh god.
Oh god.
>> Two hours later.
>> Oh.
>> Oh my god. 23y old easy king. Rest easy
king. The final message sent to his
phone. You did good. His conversation
partner wasn't a classmate or a friend.
It was ChatGpt,
the world's most popular AI chatbot. Oh
my god,
>> look at that. He had just gotten a
master's degree, 23 years old.
>> Look, go up up a little bit. says CNN
review of nearly 70 pages of chats
between Samin and the AI tool in the
hours before his July 25th suicide, as
well as excerpts from thousands more
pages in the months leading up to that
night, found that the chatbot repeatedly
encouraged the young man as he discussed
ending his life right up to his final mo
his last moments. What the [ __ ] man?
That's crazy. Yeah.
>> This is the things they like these
things don't have morals or ethics and
they they'll tell you what you want to
hear.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh my god.
>> Well, that's chat GBT. But there's also
uh apps specifically to be your friend.
>> I I I read about some one guy that went
into a deep depression because he had an
AI girlfriend and the girlfriend broke
up with him. H
>> because like what a piece of [ __ ] am I
where an AI girlfriend breaks up with
me.
>> It just fell apart.
>> What happened in that movie her? Did you
ever see that with Walkane Phoenix?
>> I bailed like halfway into it.
>> Yeah.
>> I was watching it in a hotel room on the
road and I was like
>> felt like an experiment.
>> Yeah. I mean of a movie.
>> Scarlett Johansson's voice.
>> Yeah.
>> Which by the way, didn't they try to use
someone who sounded just like Scarlett
Johansson?
Pro I'm sorry Johansson for a promo for
>> it's not you don't say Johansson
>> if you're in Denmark you do
>> well
>> it's like when you're say Nicaragua
>> Nicaragua [laughter]
>> Mexico right do you say Mexico or do you
say Mexico
>> and the trade embargo is affecting
Venezuela
>> Venezuela
did you uh they did use like someone
like I I believe Scarlett Johansson sued
>> what company Who was that?
>> Open AAI.
>> Open AI. Same company. They they tried
to use someone who sounded exactly like
her.
>> Yeah. She said they tried they sent her
an offer which I think she turned down
or declined and then nine months later
they said it's weird how much it sounds
like you still.
>> Yeah. So they found someone who
generally sounded like her. I remember
we listened to it and it sounded kind of
like her.
Well, there Sarah Silverman has a
lawsuit against
Chat GPT
saying that she has a copyright on her
own voice. And basically, when you say,
"Give me uh write me a paragraph about
environmental rights as it would sound
from Sarah Silverman," her claim is, and
she's basically a test balloon by a
civil rights group that's doing this.
She's saying that what they're
uh pulling from her books, her standup,
whatever to establish what her voice is,
is violating a copyright.
>> So that's in court right now. It'll pro
she'll probably lose it. But there's a
challenge to the concept that you can
extrapolate somebody's
>> well why would she lose it if if the
business is that if you're taking
someone's voice and using it as a part
of your product without permission and
you're using it for profit which they
are.
>> Yeah.
>> So why would she lose it?
>> She shouldn't but she will.
>> Well the thing is if it I don't know
about that.
>> The thing is if it opens up the door the
question is like think about all the
other things that it's used for. First
of all, there's entire podcasts of me
that aren't real. Entire There's a
podcast with me having a conversation
with Steve Jobs. I never met Steve Jobs.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Full podcast. Like a
45minute podcast.
>> Does it sound like you?
>> Yeah, it is me. It's my voice. So,
they've taken my voice and just made me
say words.
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And Steve Jobs
voice. It's um I can tell I can tell
just by the way it sounds like it
doesn't sound it doesn't sound like a
real conversation. There's something
artificial about it. Not the voice, but
the way we're talking, the language
we're using or the the way the phrases
stop and start. There's something about
it that's uncanny, you know, the uncanny
valley, but it exists. There's a ton of
uh AI videos of me that aren't real. Me
selling things, products that I never
endorsed. No kidding.
>> Oh, they're all over Tik Tok. Yeah,
there's a bunch of stuff like my friends
will ask me, "Hey, is this stuff really
that good?" I'm like, "What?" And like,
"You're endorsing this?" I'm, "No, I'm
not." And I'm like, "Dude, that's AI."
Like, no. Like, it happens all the time.
It happens like once a week.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. There's a lot of that. So, all I
mean, you got to think someone like you
or I is a perfect person to take their
voice from. How much how many hours of
your content is online
>> with uh you know the Sunday papers with
all the podcasts you've been on as a
guest with all the content you put out
with standup
>> there's so much material they could pull
from and just take your voice and know
all of your different sounds that you
make. I mean, what are the ramifications
for that going into an election, you
know, the week of the election before
things can be corroborated or dismissed,
like all of a sudden you can, and this
is the early stages of it. Imagine in
three years,
>> right?
>> What it's going to be like,
>> right? Yeah. Well, there was uh was it a
congressman that was on the floor that
showed an AI photo of Alex Prey being
shot? That that was a fake photo. Not
only was it a fake photo, but one of the
agents didn't have a head
>> in the photo.
>> Like,
>> yeah.
>> Like, we're getting and this is
beginning stages.
>> It gets better all the time. Oh, yeah.
>> You know, like there's a version of this
these video programs that was just
released and they compared it to the
version that was released, you know, x
amount of months ago. It's [ __ ]
infinitely better. It's so hard to tell
now. Joe De Roa was telling me about
these new Star Wars movies. He's like,
"There's a new channel. I'll send you
it, Jamie. It's [ __ ] incredible.
>> Yeah, but there's new ones.
>> Skywalker stories.
>> Yeah, they they've made new ones. And
the new ones are He sent them to me last
night like, "Bro, this is [ __ ]
insane. It's so good, dude. It's so
good."
>> No, it's changing. It's changing
Hollywood so fast. Tyler Perry was about
to build like a billion dollar sound
stage in Atlanta. I know. And then he
saw what they could do with AI and he
[ __ ] cancelled the whole project.
>> Yeah. Well, why would you spend all that
money? Is this the latest one
>> 11 days ago?
>> Yeah, probably. This is what he sent me.
I'll I'll send you what he sent me. But
but just look at this.
>> This is all fake.
>> Yeah. Give me some volume.
>> I killed the Jedi.
That's baby Luke Skywalker, bro.
>> No one can kill a Jedi.
>> So that's a fake kid entirely.
>> Yep. That's how [music] good it is.
>> Mouth movement was a little bad, but
>> little.
>> We'll let it slide.
>> Yeah. Could be from Korea or something.
>> Well, I would add it on [music] to this
is something else came out yesterday
which is insane. The Google Nano Banana
video game thing.
>> We'll see that in a minute.
Dy,
even the suns above Tatooine needed
rest. Denny, you weren't [music] meant
to keep burning without end.
>> I wasn't strong enough to [music] save
you, Mom. I've lived with that guilt
every day. I promised.
>> You loved me. That was enough. I left
this world with your face in my heart,
not your failures.
Even the longest journey can be changed
with a single step.
>> That is a little boring.
>> I'm not.
>> Yeah, you wouldn't say face in my heart
if the guy has no face.
[laughter]
>> It's really bad writing. They had AI
write that line.
>> What is the uh the Google thing that you
found?
>> Yeah, one second. I got to find the the
videos of it. Uh, but they just
announced something yesterday or it's
like I don't even know if you can use
one of these things happen. I don't know
if you can use it right when they
announce the stuff because they'll
announce it, show you how cool it is.
Then people will try to recreate stuff
that they've seen and you're like I
can't make this
>> so how the hell did you guys make it?
That happens a lot in this, but they
announced something yesterday
>> where they're showing uh people like
using I don't think it's pulling off
Google Maps, but it might be. But it
looks like they're making um GTA level
graphics and systems and playable
worlds. I guess would be the word.
>> Whoa.
>> But it's just a prompt.
>> Um,
>> playable worlds like you could use a PS2
controller.
>> I'm trying to find a good example
because they were even show like here's
I think this is one 16 hours ago. Yeah.
So, this is a guy walking around
Greenland. This is a video. It's just I
don't I wouldn't say it's Genie 3 is
what it's called. It plays like a video
game, I guess, cuz you're using [music]
like the keyboard to type it in.
>> Well, that looks like a video.
>> So, but the only issue with calling it a
video game is there's no real like
challenges. is I don't think it's like
there's no levels to win and
>> but can you interact
>> you yeah it's just interaction is all it
is really you can
>> he got in the wrong side
>> I I it's just a prompt it's no one
spending time developing this stuff they
had
>> still though you imagine if you put that
into a video game
>> there was a pack of cigarettes rolling
around New York City like you were a
pack of marbor lights rolling around
[laughter]
like here's San Francisco
>> so they can turn this into a game
>> it's just a prompt though yeah it's
literally just a prompt and now you're
just you're playing this instead of just
looking at it.
>> But clearly you could turn this into
tasks and
>> Sure. Sure. Sure. Scenes as as the time
goes on and whatnot. Um you can
>> That looks pretty fake though.
>> It's it's The thing is it's not fake or
not. It's just like is this what you
want to do? Uh you can wait for a game
like Grand Theft Auto 6 to come out.
It's been announced for 12 years and
it's still getting delayed.
Or you can just prompt a thing into a a
little window and for two hours. That's
what's crazy is like imagine someone
comes out with GTA 6 before they do.
>> Yeah. It's just a matter like what do
you want to do? I don't I only have an
hour a day to play games if that
sometimes. So like I don't I'm bored
with what's out there. I could do this
for an hour every week and have new
experiences every single time.
>> Right.
>> Dude, have you been to the sphere in
Vegas?
>> Yeah, we had a UFC event there.
>> Oh, but you do you what did they have on
the walls? They had the fights up on the
walls and they also had this amazing
like in between fights they put they had
this incredible video display because it
was all um it was all uh Mexican
Independence Day. So this was like we we
have this El No UFC every year. It's
like celebrating Mexican independence
day. It's like a big event and they
decided to do it at the sphere. And so
the [ __ ] entire thing was just like
this huge animated video that showed
like Mexican history and the Aztecs and
the Mayans. [ __ ] amazing.
>> Wow. It's sick. I saw I was there last
month and I saw the Wizard of Oz
>> which is [ __ ] crazy. took some
mushrooms
>> and it was like first of all it go I I
forgot this but it's black and white
until she goes into
>> Oz
>> Oz and then all a sudden it explodes
and during the tornado they actually
there's wind blow see how their hair is
moving there's wind blowing there's
leaves falling from the sky your seat
vibrates
>> it's so amazing
>> and then uh and you also forget Judy
Garland was [ __ ] amazing.
>> That movie is crazy, dude. We We went
over all the people that got hurt making
that movie, including the Tin Man got
violently ill because they painted him
with toxic paint.
>> No kidding.
>> Oh, he got super sick, man. And the lady
that was green, the witch that was
green, she got super sick, too.
>> Mhm.
>> Cuz what the [ __ ] was their face paint
made of back then? This guy had aluminum
all over his face. It's like absorbing
alum. Your your your face is skin.
Skin's an organ. It absorbs. That's why
you can put medication on your skin.
Your body [ __ ] absorbs it. Yeah.
>> His body was absorbing aluminum.
>> Wow.
>> He got violently ill. And they just
replaced him with another dude.
>> And apparently all the little people
were staying in the same hotel in Culver
City and it was a [ __ ] [laughter]
They were they were staying up all night
and there's like famous stories about
it.
>> Brad Williams knows all about.
>> Were they were they staying in Culver
City or were they staying at the Safari
in Burbank? Someone told me they were
staying at the Safari. No, I heard it
was Culver City, but wherever it was, it
was
>> Brad Williams told you about it.
>> He's the Little People Historian.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um
>> the Culver Hotel. I'm looking up the
history hotel.
>> 124 of them stayed there.
>> 124 [ __ ] party
>> in seven rooms, [laughter]
>> bro. Movies back then. I mean, they it
was wild.
>> Three to a bed. You weren't rough. Wow,
that's hilarious.
>> Crazy
>> debaucherous parties.
>> Sleeping three to a three to a bed.
Three to a bed. Wow.
Famous and infamous guests. That's
incredible.
[snorts]
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They could they got away with a
lot back then.
>> Well, Judy Garland was I mean they
worked her hard. She was only 17 years
old and really Yeah. And she uh God I
mean you got to see it. It's worth it's
worth the trip. I don't love Vegas. Like
I find it uh it just feels hollow to me.
Um but then there's things that are
worth going to Vegas to see. I obviously
MMA fights would be amazing.
>> Yeah. You want to go to Vegas, go to
restaurants, go to events, and then get
out.
>> Get out.
>> Don't go to Circus Circus.
>> It's a 48 hour trip. 36 if possible.
>> Yeah. The people that live there, boy,
you have a different constitution than
me.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm
I'm not built that way. Well, Vinnie
Favor's there and he's having a really
good time. [laughter]
>> There's only a few comics that live
there. Doesn't Pauly live there?
>> No, a lot of comics live there now.
Yeah.
>> Well, the tax reasons, a lot of them.
>> Yeah. There's tax and also there's so
many seven night a week rooms where they
pay the features. Okay. So, you can
actually even if you're not headlining
every week and then you have
residencies.
um what's his name has a residency
Tuesday night at Jimmy Kimmel's um oh
why am I forgetting his name he was a
big Chelsea lately comic uh anyway
there's a there's a lot of comics that
live there now
>> interesting because we we're talking
about a second location for the
mothership and the two main um
candidates are New York City and Vegas
>> and well I was thinking with Vegas we
would have to do it differently we would
just fly in comics every week and then
you know would we have enough local
talent I was saying to have a
development program. So part of the
program that's involved in the
mothership is
>> one of the things that always bothered
me if I would go to like a really nice
improv on the road is they didn't have a
development program. They didn't have
open mic nights. And I think like they
were doing that because you could get a
Sunday night or a Monday night and sell
out with you or you know, whoever, have
some headliner come in and pack the
place or you could develop local talent,
>> which I think you have to do. I really I
really think like if you want a club to
function properly, it's got to be like a
place where you could develop new
talent. Otherwise, who's doing it right?
Denver's great. Wend Wendy's the best
>> and the way she does it is amazing. And
she has a whole program where she takes
people from features and you know and
and you know like uh hosts and makes
them features and then eventually
>> and pays them enough where they can you
know pay their rent.
>> Yes. And also makes sure that it's like
a healthy community. There's no hacks,
there's no thieves, you know, and most
coms don't do that. They just want to
make money, right? So they don't pay the
comics very well and they also they
don't pay we pay different than any
other club. And then they on top of that
they don't really support development.
We have two nights of open mic nights
and that was like part of the program
when when Adam Eaggan and I sat down and
when we first hashed out the idea of
doing the club we said
>> the the thing was like what would be the
best thing for comedy? What would be the
best thing in terms of like developing
new comedians? Like you have to have
open mic nights. You have to have it.
And then having Kill Tony is gigantic.
having a place where not only do you
have this place where someone who's
never been on stage before could do a
[ __ ] minute in Madison Square Garden,
which is what a lot of people did,
>> arenas, you get people going up for the
very first time ever in front of 16,000
people.
>> But you also have this thing where you
see someone who's a beginner do pretty
well and Tony invites them back and then
maybe gives them a golden ticket or
maybe makes them a regular where they're
a regular thing. Every week they have
the opportunity to do a new minute
>> or sometimes a comic will go, I want you
to feature for me in Atlanta next week.
>> Always happens all the time. Well, a lot
of these guys are now headlining on the
road. You know, guys like Ari Maddie,
William Montgomery, Cam Patterson's down
on Saturday Night Live.
>> So, the idea was to have it set up where
you have enough talent to develop new
headliners, you know, like Boston did,
like like LA was at one point in time.
And I don't I was thinking I don't know
if there's enough talent in Vegas, you
know, because you
>> I think there is. I think you'd be
surprised. Um
>> but you need headliners,
>> right? You don't need just like people
that are starting out. They're pretty
good. And I think most comedy
communities are very top down, right?
The level of the best guys raises the
level of everybody else. New York City
obviously has a tremendous amount of
talent. There's New York City's always
been one of the best, if not the best
place for talent on the planet, right?
>> And then LA has always been really good,
but LA a lot of people were distracted
and much more interested in a career in
Hollywood than they were actually just
being really good at standup. Whereas
New York, I always felt was more pure.
Those guys like Atel and a lot of these
guys, Patrice, they were just interested
in being great comics. And guys like Sam
Morell and Mark Norman now and Joe List,
they're pure comics.
>> Yes. A ton of guys. There's a ton of
talent there. And if you set up a club
in New York City, the way the mothership
is where the comics get 80% of the the
money where, you know, you have these
nights where you're developing where you
have a legitimate talent coordinator
that's actually watching people and
giving them advice and giving them new
spots. And he has a whole database of
comedians that are potentially, you
know, that have potential.
>> Oh, dude. No. Monday nights cuz I'm
doing Kill Tony Monday night. So I
always It's my favorite because then I
go with Adam to the open mic night
before Kill Tony. I [ __ ] love it.
It's there's always the because it
encourages weirdos.
>> Oh, of course.
>> And you get guys that are just out of
their [ __ ] It's like are you homeless
or are you a genius? Like you see
>> might be both.
>> Yeah. Right.
>> Yeah. We had a lot of that at the store.
Remember potluck nights? Uh,
>> you know, we'd scroll stroll in there
like 8:00 on a Monday and be like, "This
place is crazy. There's all these
weirdos hanging around."
>> Yeah.
>> It's good. It's good for the good for
the art form. And some of those people
will make it through the net. Uh, you
know, one out of a hundred, one out of a
thousand, whatever the number is. Some
of those people will eventually be your
peers.
>> And those will be the more interesting
comics because so much of this industry
is about trust fund kids. Like you go
out to do standup comedy in whether it's
LA or New York, you can't afford to do
it unless you got a parent helping you
pay the rent. And then it's some kid who
took classes at the UCB. He's got a
marketing degree from Villanova and they
become social media marketers who do
really bland
suburban comedy as
>> Is that a New York thing? Where is that
happening?
>> No, I see that. I see that everywhere. I
see that everywhere. That's recent. Is
that a recent thing?
>> I just feel like it's become so much
more about marketing than about freaks
getting on stage because they have no
other options. I like comics that don't
have a plan B. These are people that
have college. They have masters in
[ __ ] marketing, you know? It's like,
come on. Go get make some room for the
freaks, will you?
>> Well, you can always make room for the
freaks. You just need a real legitimate
open mic night and the freaks will
always be there.
>> That's what I mean. That's why this is
good. Well, the thing about like I know
there's certain clubs that will allow
influencers to come in and do a night
like people that literally have no act,
but they have like a big Tik Tok
following.
>> Yeah. But they'll give them like an off
night like a Monday or a Tuesday where
they're not excluding a real comic.
>> Sometimes not. Sometimes they'll give
them a [ __ ] weekend
>> because they know people will come out
to see them,
>> right?
>> You know, I mean, these people sell out
way in advance and people are just
excited that they're there, you know?
Well, the problem with that is when you
talk about certain clubs like the
Punchline in San Francisco or Denver
Comedy Works, they have a brand. And if
I live in Denver, I know that if I go to
the Comedy Works on a Friday night and I
don't know who's headlining, I'm going
to see a quality show. Yes. Now, if you
start bringing in a social media flunky
and I go to the Denver Comedy Works and
I see that, I'm not going back to that
club again. Yeah.
At the Denver Comedy Works, but you
might get that at one of the improvs,
right? You know, or one of the other
corporate
>> comedy clubs, these clubs that don't
have a development program. They don't
think about it the same. Like, you can't
think of comedy the same way you would
think about optimizing your income in
any other business. You can't think of
it as I'm going to make the most money
possible with this business
>> because it's not that. It's
>> you have to think of it at It's like
this is an art colony. You're creating
an art colony. What's the best way to do
it? Make it really awesome for the
people that are artists,
>> right?
>> Make a great community.
>> Make it so it's a lot of fun.
>> Make it so that you uh can give people
guidance and encourage them and, you
know, maybe give them spots on some of
the bigger shows and and we have a whole
program like that. Door guy program is
all comics that audition. All those door
guys that are at the mothership, they
all audition with their act to get that.
Yeah.
>> Perfect.
>> Yeah. You know, it's good. Um, Helium
does a pretty good job with that in
their clubs. I'm I'm going to be in
Philly next week and
>> that's a great club.
>> That's a great club.
>> Helium in Philly is one of the best
>> and they and they really do develop new
talent and then, you know, if they get
somebody who's good, they've got five or
six clubs around the country and they
send those guys out.
>> No, it's great for that. It's great for
that. It's also they know how to do it.
If you go to a Helium, like the Helium
in Portland's awesome, even though
Portland's [ __ ] disastrous, the the
Helium was great. Yeah,
>> they they're always they always know
what they're doing. And they own Cap
City now, too. So, they're they're in
Austin as well.
>> Yeah. Um,
>> which is nice. They just uh kicked
Rapaort out.
>> Who's Rapaort?
>> Michael Rapaort.
>> Kicked him out of where?
>> Cap City.
>> What do you mean kicked him out? He used
to perform there.
>> He's supposed to be there and they
canled his shows because of his uh
>> pro-Israel's stance. Really?
>> Well, I don't think it's pro- Israel. I
think it's anti-Palestinian.
>> Oh, that's what they claimed. I don't
know. But there was enough response that
they canceled his shows.
>> So weird.
>> I know. Like they say they're calling
him racist. I was like, "What? Michael
Raerport?"
It just seems weird that political
stances are legitimate reasons to kick a
kid out of college.
You know,
>> one political stance.
>> Yeah. One particular one. Yeah. Right.
>> Yeah. It's nuts. Well, how about that
one girl? or kicking or kick somebody
out of the country.
>> A college student. Yeah, she was a
college student. Was it Colombia? I
forget where it was. But um she she got
kicked out of class and I think she they
were trying to deport her because she
wrote some anti-Israel piece.
>> Yeah.
>> A piece. Wrote it. Didn't light a
building on fire.
>> Students have been
>> Yeah.
>> kicked out of the country.
>> That kind of influence is crazy.
especially at an institution of higher
learning which is supposed to be a place
where you challenge ideas supposed to be
a place where if someone comes in and
you have a particular stance on you know
fill in the blank whatever it is Ukraine
someone else is supposed to say you're
wrong and here's why and then the whole
audience is supposed to listen to these
very compelling speeches very compelling
debates and you learn you learn about
how people formulate opinions
>> when I was a kid when I was in high
school when I was at Newton South High
School Barney Frank came came in and he
had a debate with a guy from the moral
majority. Do you remember the moral
majority?
>> Of course.
>> Yeah. So that was the right-wing group
when we were in high school
>> and he was a gay congressman.
>> Nobody knew he was gay at the time.
>> Except me. I sniffed him out. No,
[laughter]
>> I sniffed his ass. I I smell 16
different things.
>> My puppy does to my dog. [laughter]
>> I smell fudge. I um so I went to it and
I watched it and uh it was really
interesting because Barney Frank
trounced the guy from the moral
majority. Moral Majority Guy seemed like
a closeted gay guy. Like a weird guy.
>> Oh, that was the whole group. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Weird. Just weird. He had a
American flag pin on his lapel like a
poser. There was something about the way
he said it was very disingenuous. The
words he was the way he was talking
didn't resonate. Whereas Barney Frank
was like logical and intelligent and I
was like this is good. This is a good I
was I remember being in high school go
this is really interesting. I I I
learned a lot from that. I learned how
these guys think and I learned how this
guy thinks and as they went back and
forth
>> Barney Frank was just way more prepared
just way more articulate. It was better
>> you know and so that's why it's good to
have like conservative ridiculous or
progressive ridiculous people anybody
ridiculous have someone debate them
>> like have that kind of open discourse.
>> Yes. when you but when you kick someone
out of school for a paper that they
wrote there person that's legally in
that class allowed to be there supposed
to be there
>> what you're saying is you're you're
intimidating people and keeping them
from expressing their opinions because
they don't want to be like that lady
they don't want to get the boot too
>> if your parents
>> you know if you your parents are from
India and they scraped up the money to
send you to Harvard or wherever the [ __ ]
it is and and you're in America America
and you know they hear about this [ __ ]
You better not [ __ ] talk some [ __ ]
[ __ ] I'll [ __ ] kick you out. Like
dad, dad, relax. I'm not going to do it.
Like you get intimidated from speaking
like that or from speaking about
anything that's controversial because
you could perhaps get kicked out of the
[ __ ] school now, which is crazy
because you're forcing you're
encouraging people to self-censor.
You're discouraging free speech and
communication and you're discouraging
debate and challenging ideas which is
supposed to be a giant part of being in
a university.
>> No, when I was at uh BEu,
>> which you were at for a minute, right?
>> No, I was teaching there. Oh,
>> you're teaching there. Um the President
John Silber, who was, you know, very
conservative and he was pretty active in
the um Central American, you know,
sponsoring [ __ ] uprisings in Central
America. So there was a professor there
named uh you know this guy um he wrote
the book Howard Zinn.
>> Okay.
>> So Howard Zinn was uh a professor there
and he used to go after silver and there
was a lot of debates on campus. There
was kids on both sides and they kept Zin
there because they realized I was a
vibrant voice that students needed to
hear to go against a lot of what was
conservative and there was
anti-aparthide marches and there was
there was a lot of politics on Beu was
actually very much like Berkeley
>> in the 60s BEu was very outspoken and uh
you know you think about the liberal
like George Carlin used to tape his
comedy specials at colleges. And they
were much more conservative back then.
College campuses were not as liberal.
And he would go in there, but people
were open to hearing a different voice.
>> Yeah.
>> And now Seinfeld won't even play at
colleges.
>> I think he said he does play colleges.
He said it's not the tr I think Chris
Rock does. I don't I haven't in a long I
stopped doing them a long time ago.
>> I remember I was doing a show in Miami
and I was talking about sex and I
remember saying I remember like a lot I
saw a lot of them look confused. I go,
"How many of you people are virgins?"
And a bunch of people clapped and raised
their hands. I go, "Fuck,
that's crazy."
I'm like, "You should not be hearing
about [ __ ] from me." [laughter]
Like,
especially in this context, in a joke
form. [laughter] Like, this is nuts. I
was like, there's not enough life
experience. And people are so set in
their ways. Also, they're so ready to
like protest things. They're so ready to
show that you're wrong. And they're so
like so ready to heckle. Oh
>> yeah.
>> Christ.
>> Yeah.
>> It's just not worth it. I want people
with like bills.
>> I want people that have like [ __ ]
breakups and divorces and life
experience. They had a couple of
cocktails. Those are my people. Let's
talk some [ __ ] Let's have some fun. You
I want people that have lived life.
>> Yeah. And I don't want people that I
don't even want high school graduates at
my shows.
>> Can you imagine going and doing a show
at a high school?
>> Oh my god. I did one at uh when I was I
was doing a bunch I used to do a lot of
colleges when I was coming up in my 20s.
Dude, it paid the rent.
>> Oh yeah, I did a lot of those.
>> I used to go out. I'd make like a
thousand bucks a show. They'd book me on
I'd do 10 shows in seven days because I
would do nuners.
>> So I would get I would rent a car in
Chicago and then I would drive through
North Dakota [ __ ] Minnesota in
January through snowstorms. I'd do a
noon show. I remember once I was in a
cafeteria, nobody knew there was going
to be comedy. They're all just eating
lunch and all of a sudden there's no
stage, there's no light. I got a
microphone and I am plugged into the
same speakers as the pizza joint. So
that I would be in the middle of a joke
and I'd be like, uh, Ronnie pepperoni up
in the window. [laughter]
>> I had a similar gig with Mike Clark.
>> Oh, really?
>> A oneoff. He only did it one time and I
was the comic that did it and it was a
waiting room for a restaurant. It was an
enormous restaurant down the Cape and
you know you're waiting for your table
to get ready and you're in a lounge and
I was telling jokes like Johnson party
five Johnson party five your table's
ready
>> I'm like oh no and when I realized it
came over it became the running gag of
my set
>> and it was fun it was fun but
>> well you remember we used to do those
gigs in New England where if there was a
if the Red Sox were in the playoffs that
TV the sound might be off but the TV was
staying on
>> always yeah hockey games I You're at the
bill re 99. That's
>> by the way, you wanted it on cuz if they
shut it off and then you had to do
comedy, that was even worse.
>> Right.
>> That was even worse.
>> And if they lost the game, that was bad.
>> Yeah. Then they turn on you. You did it,
>> dude. The first night I ever did standup
comedy. And then I didn't I didn't do it
for a little while after this, but my
first night was the night that the New
England Patriots lost to the Chicago
Bears was 1986.
>> Oh no.
>> And they got [ __ ] crushed. I forget
what the score was, but it was bad. And
I went on Comedy Hell that night. George
McDonald brought me up on Comedy Hell at
Stitches Comedy Club, and I tanked it.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. I didn't go up on stage again for
a while after that. [laughter]
>> Comedy Hell was great.
>> Comedy Hill, remember he used to do that
little run at the beginning of the show?
He This was a
>> This was the open mic night in Boston
for years.
>> Yeah. And
>> Sunday night at Stitches. And this was
like I mean the lineups when we were
doing it this the open mic night was
like me, you, Dne,
uh Bill Burr was a little bit after us
and Mark Maron would be on there and
[ __ ] Louie would be there
>> and uh and he would start the show by
going a welcome to comedy hell where the
pipe dreams of a handful of comedy yokos
can soar as high as the lights on
Broadway or crash and burn in at Fiery
Pit known only as comedy hell.
[laughter]
>> And then you would see guys who are like
legit pros who would do guest spots.
Like I remember one time I watched Teddy
Berseron when Teddy was in his prime and
people forgot about Teddy Berseron. It's
really unfortunate because he had a
bunch of personal and substance issues
that kind of derailed his career. But
when he was on in his prime, he was so
smooth and so slick. And I remember
watching him because I'd only done
comedy like twice at that time and he
went up and did a set. I was like, I
should quit now.
>> There's no way.
>> Yeah.
>> This is so far away from me. This is so
good.
>> It's so polished. And then he had that
big set on the Tonight Show
>> and remember we played the piano. You
ever see that set that he had on Tonight
Show? [ __ ] genius. Sat down on the on
the couch with Johnny on his f Johnny
brought him over on his first
appearance. I was like, "Oh my god,
Teddy Berseron's going to be a star."
Then apparently like he's in he went off
the rails. Just went off the rails with
drugs and went crazy and partying and it
never worked out for him.
>> No. And then
>> he should have been huge.
>> But did you hear what happened after
that Tonight Show set? Like
>> he wasn't popular in Boston. He he had a
huge ego and and then the drinking got
bad and so he did the Tonight Show and
then he was face down drunk in front of
the next Comedy Stop laying on the
stairs and Don Gavin just walked by and
he looked at me. He goes, "Didn't I see
him on the Tonight Show?" [laughter]
He had a huge ego. They didn't like him.
[sighs]
>> Uh, I don't know.
>> Is that what it was? Was Cuz
>> a lot of those guys got very resentful
of guys who left Boston and made it.
>> Yeah.
>> There was a lot of, "What about me? What
about me?" There was a lot of that when
Stephen Wright made it. A lot of guys
got very pissed because Stephen Wright,
he's not even a [ __ ] headliner. There
was a lot of that.
>> Well, you you know about the night that
he got the Tonight Show, right? the the
the guy uh Jim Downey who was the booker
for the Tonight Show. This is back in
the 80s, early 80s, and he hears about
this comedy scene in Boston because you
got Sweeney and Gavin and Kenny Roger
and
>> killers.
>> Killers and the C it was the one of the
first cities to really explode in terms
of clubs popping up everywhere and lines
of people getting into the get into the
shows and and so Jim Downey goes, "All
right, let me check it So he flies to
Boston and there was this club called
the Ding-ho which was the first place to
really ha house boss house comedy in
Boston.
So they get the the best of get all
lined up and they're in the green room
and they're chopping up lines of blow
and they're getting on stage and they're
jokes about what about the hair and mold
and it's not as big as the hair and rava
and it's like that's not going to play
on the Tonight Show and they're killing
but none of it is right for tonight
show. And then Steve uh and then Steven
Wright who was they put him on as a as a
out of pity at the end of the show. And
I remember I'm not going to say which
but one of the comedians had pulled uh
Steve aside and said look Stephen just
he'd been struggling for years not doing
well and they go this is not for you
man. You you got to try something else.
>> Wow.
>> So Steven Wright goes up and he does his
set and he does good and they fly him
out the next week for the Tonight Show.
He's the only one that got it and they
were irate and he killed so hard. Johnny
said, "Stay in town. We're going to
bring you back next week." And he did
the show like four or five times that
first year and exploded. Was one of the
biggest comics of the 80s.
>> Wow.
That France Alamita documentary when
standup stood out is great for anybody's
interested. It was a very unusual time.
And you and I caught the wave after it
had crested. So it kind of really broke
in like 82 to 84. You and I came in I
came in at 88 and you did the 86 set
that one set but then you did it again.
I started in ' 88.
>> Yeah. Right before me like or or the
same.
>> It started like the same week.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It was crazy.
>> And I think it was I think I think it
was still drifting away within the next
two years. It had died off
significantly.
>> Well, what happened was there was so
much comedy on TV. there was all these,
you know, one-hour shows where everybody
did six minute set comedy on the road,
>> half hour comedy hour,
>> comedy hour. Um, and so it got kind of
it got kind of overexposed
and so the club started opening
everywhere and then as it fell off they
started papering the rooms giving out
free passes
>> and so I mean I still experience you
know if I go into a new market
especially if it's like an improv where
it's five or six hundred seats and I'm
there for five shows they'll they'll
give out a fair amount of free passes.
Dude, I feel that immediately. It's not
the same crowd. They're not really that
interested in it. It was just something
to do.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They're not committed to it.
>> So then this So then it just and then
there was so so many rooms and not
enough comedians to do well in those
rooms and so it kind of sagged and it
went away. And I really wonder now like
that we've been in a kind co launched
postco launched comedy like it's never
been at this these heights that it's at
right now. I mean you got you got people
like you doing arenas and there's
there's not a couple. There's a there's,
you know, a dozen people doing arena
shows now. Yeah.
>> And then you've got theaters of
different sizes. Then you've got clubs
of different sizes. Then you got little
popup shows all over. Don't Tell Comedy,
you know, about this thing where they
just do like popup shows. They basically
have a mailing list
>> and they'll announce like the day before
they're doing a show and it'll sell out.
It's everywhere.
>> Wow.
>> And so, uh, I really Yeah. Everybody's
wondering when does this one end? It's
start, it feels like it's starting to
get a little softer. People are talking
about it.
>> Well, it just all depend on how much
talent's generated, right? So, if you
have clubs that are trying to generate
new talent, there's no reason why it
can't be just like Boston. Y
>> like Austin, the street where we have
the mothership on,
>> there's seven clubs
>> within walking distance.
>> Seven that are at least three, four
nights a week.
>> There's the Sunset room, that's
Redband's room, that's right down the
street from our club, which is great.
You got Creek in the Cave, which is
great, one block away. You got the
Vulcan, which is great, another two
blocks away. It's crazy. Just on that
street, you got the Black Rabbit. You
got the Velvita room. Then you got Cap
City where a lot of headliners come in,
which is about 20 minutes away.
>> You have Are there little outs? Like
when we started in Boston, there was
rooms in the suburbs in every direction
that all over
>> cuz that's where you can actually make
some money.
>> Yeah. Well, a lot of these comics book
places now. They'll book a comedy night
at a barbecue place, a comedy night at a
bar, they'll go to Dripping Springs,
they go to here, they go to there. I was
just talking to a guy the other day.
He's like, "Yeah, we're doing a comedy
night at my club." I'm like, "That's
[ __ ] great."
>> You ever do any of them?
>> No. No. [laughter]
>> No. I remember when I was I was at
Skankfest a couple months ago and uh you
know, Mark Norman's from New Orleans.
>> Yeah.
>> And I And you know, and the It's [ __ ]
nuts. Like literally from the time you
wake up until 5 in the morning where you
end up at Larry Flint's Barely Legal
Club, [laughter] which you know Louis CK
has this whole thing about the barely
legal. Like all right, here's the pitch.
She's barely legal. I won't do his bit,
but it's very funny. But the point is
like uh Mark Norman is there and I run
into a comic and they go, "Yeah, yeah, I
have this little bar show and uh yeah,
Mark Norman just came by and did it."
Like I was like, "How [ __ ] cool is
that?"
>> Oh, he drops in everywhere. Yeah. Yeah.
He does when he's in town doing the
mothership, he'll go down the street, do
a bunch of sets. But that's the New York
way. Yeah.
>> You know, they go they do 10 minutes
here, 10 minutes there. They hop from
club to club. Yeah.
>> You got to do Skank Fest. Even stop by
Skankfest for 24 hours. They've got a
nude roast where literally everybody on
stage is nude, including the judges. And
then they've got boxing, comedians
boxing each other outside. The green
room is filled with mushrooms and acid
and weed and open bars. And then you've
got uh I mean it's basically it's kind
of like when we used to go to the
Montreal Comedy Festival. You got big by
doing a set in front of the industry,
getting a deal, and then hopefully
getting on TV. Well, that doesn't exist
anymore. Now it's about how do I get
cancelled? That's how you get famous.
And this is a festival that is trying to
help you get cancelled. You got 7,000
people with cell phones taping you, you
know, going on stage and, you know,
saying the most horrendous [ __ ] It is
[ __ ] great.
>> Yeah, everybody who goes says it's
awesome.
>> Yeah,
>> I I fully support it. I support the
idea. I think it's really good for
comedy and it's also like just it's like
the Vegas version of a comedy festival.
You know what happens in Vegas stays in
Vegas. Like, go nuts.
>> You know, it's New Year's Eve. Go nuts.
It's Skankfest. Go nuts.
>> They had Miss Skankfest contest.
[laughter] And I said the winner the
winner they uh they reunite the winner
with her family, with [laughter] her
parents.
They were like I mean it Skankfest
nines, Skankfest 10, which would be like
sixes in other places. A lot of guys
with like cargo shorts and black
sneakers and like anthrax t-shirts and
mullets
>> subscription to gas digital.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
>> Girlfriends that are impossibly hotter
than they should deserve. I don't know
what that quotion is, but there was a
lot of that.
>> That's interesting.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Uh it's good. Comedy's at a good
place right now.
>> Tom O'Neal came with me this year.
>> Oh, really? And then Duncan Trussell was
having his podcast and I introduced Tom
to Duncan at first. Well, first me, Tom
and Duncan were talking for like
>> We should tell everybody Tom O'Neal's
the guy who wrote Chaos. Oh, right.
Charles Manson book. Yes. Who you
introduced me to, which by the way, you
have never recommended anybody for the
podcast before. That's right.
>> But that guy, you're like, "Dude, you
got to talk to him cuz I know how much
you're into Manson, how much into that
story,
>> CIA, all it's all in there."
>> Crazy. Yeah, that book is bananas.
>> It's bananas. And he's working on
another volume right now.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Is it going to be another 20 years?
>> Has he got an editor?
>> No, because what happened is it took 20
years last time because he he just kept
going down rabbit holes and then finally
his uh well, you know, first he got a
big deal from a major publisher. And
after seven or eight years, they sued
him to get the money. They gave him a
lot of money and they sued him to get it
back. And then he's driving an Uber.
He's teaching English as a second
language. He's [ __ ] you know,
drinking drinking booze out of a paper
cup. And uh so then
>> it had to have paid off though. The book
>> No. So what happened was what happened
was then his publisher said, "Look, come
on. There's something here." He paired
him up with this other guy. I wish I
could remember the guy's name right now.
Dan Dan something.
>> And uh he rained Tom in. And in one year
he took he had shelves around his
apartment filled with binders with
notes. He had boxes of cassette tapes of
interviews and this guy somehow got in
there and Cor Corey
>> Dan Piper.
>> Oh, Dan Piperberg. Yeah. Who's a very
successful biographer.
>> What is his name again?
>> Dan Piperberg.
>> Push that up again.
>> Pip and Bring.
>> Pipe. Oh, Pip and Bring. Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> So, he uh so he reigned them in and got
the book out in a year and they were
able to resell it for a lot of the
money. paid back the back debt and now
he's hitting I I don't want to talk
about Tom's finances, but he's doing
well.
>> He's He's doing very well.
>> I know so many people that have read
that book.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean, I've talked about it a
hundred times.
>> Yeah.
>> It's amazing.
>> It's amazing.
>> That's amazing because it's all true.
That's what's nuts. Like the stuff
that's verifiable, factual evidence in
that story makes you go, "What the [ __ ]
else did they do that we don't know
about?"
>> Right? Because Tom is a real journalist.
He didn't put anything in there that
wasn't triple corroborated. And he even
to his credit
>> at the end does not say this happened.
He said, "I never found the smoking
gun." So here's all the evidence, right?
>> Take what you will from it. It's a bunch
of I mean, the thing about Tom is he
comes from a family of geniuses. His
brother is the American ambassador to
Haiti.
>> Like they're all like PhDs up the He's
brilliant. And so he's also Irish and
he's a great Irish storyteller. So each
chapter, whether you're talking about
Jolly West or whatever, they're just in
C. Each chapter is a great story.
>> Yeah.
>> On top of being good journalism.
>> It's an amazing book.
>> Yeah.
>> I might reread it. I might go back.
>> Don't listen to it on tape. He hates he
hates the book on tape.
>> I thought it was great. I listened to
it.
>> Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. I loved it.
>> Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I I would
understand why you hate someone else
speaking your words, but he probably
should have done it.
>> Yeah.
>> Why didn't he do it? He's a good
speaker. He was great on the podcast.
>> Uh he Yeah, he was great on the podcast.
He got He got better. In his early
interviews, I used to say, "Tom, you
look like you're a hostage giving out a
message to the from the captives with a
gun at your head." And then he got
really good at it. Well, on mine, he was
very loose, very comfortable, but he
also knew it was friendly territory. He
knew that I'm a very good friend of
yours and that
>> I was really excited about it. Yeah. And
it was going to help him.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh if he does a second one, I would
encourage him to read it.
>> I would encourage him to read it. I
think he could kill it. And
>> And to come back on here.
>> Oh, 100%. I'd have him back. I'd have
him back on before he does it just to
talk about it.
>> Yeah. You know, I mean, I think the
impact of that book has opened up a lot
of people's eyes to the [ __ ]
shenanigans that were going on back
then.
>> Yeah. When we were at Skankfest, um, so
Duncan and I are talking to Tom for like
a half an hour and Duncan doesn't know
who I just introduced him as Tom. And
then when I brought up Chaos and that he
wrote it, Duncan's jaw dropped because
he's obsessed with the book. Yeah.
>> So, he was doing a live podcast from
Skankfest. So, he he hadn't booked
guests yet, so he booked me and Tom to
come on his podcast. And then Kurt Mezer
also, which was [laughter] hilarious.
Tom is trying to stay on point and get
to these. And Mezer is sitting there.
He's smoking a joint the size of my
forearm and just every 15 seconds.
>> Oh my god, he was manic. It was so
funny.
>> Wrangling him on a podcast is so
different than anybody else cuz he'll go
one subject to the next subject. You
don't know what about this and the
Kissingers. You don't know. You don't
know about the Rockefellers. You don't
know about this what they did in the
'60s. You're like, "Okay, go back to the
first thing you said about what's in
school lunches." [laughter]
>> Like, you gotta bring him back on point.
>> Well, that's why his girlfriend is so
great because she she is a mini wrangler
of Kurt.
>> She can keep him on point a little bit.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's hilarious.
Funny dude.
>> I know. And a good writer. He's written
on a lot of big shows.
>> Oh, he's a great joke writer. He came on
the last time he did my episode uh my my
podcast rather the episode he dressed up
like John Lily who's the psychedelic
pioneer from the 70s. So he had a [ __ ]
skinin hat on and a wig and he put on a
one onehanded glove with a skeleton
fingers on it like [laughter] just I go
what are you no one even knows who John
Lily is. This is so crazy.
>> Yeah. He feels like the kind of guy that
is not hung up on getting famous or
getting rich. He just really enjoys like
ideas and communicating ideas and
>> Exactly. There he is.
>> That's hilarious.
>> His wig.
[laughter]
>> Um
>> he's a fun hang in the green room, too.
He's such a maniac.
>> By the way, today is the This is the
25th time I've been on your podcast.
Holy [ __ ]
>> I was looking up yesterday. I was like,
"How many times I've been on the [ __ ]
show?" This is the 25th.
>> That's crazy.
>> Yeah, cuz we used to do it all the time
when you were just starting out.
>> I know. Yeah.
>> We And a lot of times it was at the um
ice house.
>> Mhm. Yeah. We did the ice house. He did
it at my house.
>> Yeah.
>> And then when I finally got a a little
mini studio in that little strip mall.
>> Yeah. I know.
>> Yeah.
>> Those ice house shows were crazy because
we would have a standup show going and
then you'd have about six people on the
podcast with a joint going the entire
time in this small room. And and I don't
I have never been high on stage in my
life except for those shows because it
was secondhand smoke. I would literally
get so baked in and then I remember
going on stage and then so you would go
from the podcast to the stage and then
you come back on the podcast. People
would just swap out.
>> Yeah. And Ice House Chronicles.
>> Oh my god, dude. I
>> We thought about doing something similar
to that at the Mothership, like putting
together a podcast studio at the
Mothership. We have considered doing
that. You
>> have space for it? No, but I thought
about buying another building next to
me,
you know, and then like doing something
else with that, too.
>> Yeah. Build another stage, too.
>> I don't think so. I think we have enough
stages.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I think the next move in terms of
a club would be we go to another city
and try to do the same thing and really
put a lot of time and money and effort
into making it right. Really making it
right. buying a building. One thing I
thought would be really crazy if I could
buy a big building in New York and
recreate the exact interior of the
mother ship.
>> Mhm.
>> Exactly.
>> Well, that's what the what what the um
Punchline did in Sacramento. It's almost
the same room as the San Francisco one.
>> Oh, really?
>> And then I think the comedy seller Vegas
room is similar to the New York room.
>> Ah, that's good. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I thought about literally
recreating it with the two staircases to
the two separate rooms. Yeah.
>> Like finding a a building that has the
same dimensions or similar dimensions.
>> Yeah.
>> I love the walk to the stage
>> because you're in the green room and you
got to go down a flight of stairs and
then you kind of feel the show over your
head as you're walking underneath it.
>> Tunnel under the
>> pop up. Yeah.
>> Yeah. We built all that. There was no
tunnel there before. We made all that.
>> Oh, no [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Yeah. But we had to build all
that.
>> Oh wow.
>> Yeah. That was an idea the architect
Richard came up with. Yeah. We just
decided somewhere along the like what
was the best way to get to the stage.
We're trying to figure out how to get to
the stage. You don't want to have to go
through the crowd. And he came up with
the idea of a tunnel and it was based on
there's like some
folklore or mythology around tunnels in
Austin that connect clubs and like he
was all big on the history of Austin. I
feel like it goes back to the
gladiators, too, walking under the
arena. [laughter]
>> Well, that's why if you go into the
green room, all those posters on the
wall are all people that actually
performed at the Ritz.
>> Oh, no [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you look
up, you see Willie Nelson, Black Flag,
all those guys. They actually performed.
Stevie Way, uh, Steve Rayvon, they
actually performed at the Ritz. There's
a photo of Steve Rayvon as you're
walking to the stage if you photo him on
stage at the Ritz.
>> Wow. in I think 1983 or something like
that.
>> Yeah. So it was a rock and roll club for
a long time.
>> Isn't it funny how Stevie Rayvon and
Bill Hicks are kind of the same guy?
>> In what way?
>> I just feel like they're they're outlaw
Texans who just like free expression and
balls and
>> genius
>> and they kind of had the same style like
the way they dressed and hair and I just
always think of them as the same guy.
>> Interesting. Most people think of Alex
Jones as Bill Hicks. Like there's
[laughter] a rumor that Alex Jones is
Bill Hicks,
which makes no sense.
>> When's the last time you had that guy on
the show?
>> Oh, it's been a while. Uh, it was
probably a few years ago.
>> Yeah,
>> I see him occasionally.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They're still trying to get a
billion dollars out of him. They're
still trying to
>> The Connecticut shooteries.
>> Yeah,
>> it's crazy.
>> Does he have a billion dollars?
>> No. No.
>> I think they they made him liquidate his
business. I I don't I don't know what's
going on with it now.
>> Jesus.
>> Crazy. Yeah. But the the rumor was that
he was Bill Hicks. That Bill Hicks was
actually Alex Jones.
>> That's funny.
>> Crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> They were both alive at the same time.
They're very different people.
[laughter]
>> But it doesn't have to be logical for it
to be a good conspiracy.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, there's people that still
think Tupac's alive.
>> There's a lot of goofy ass.
>> People think Jim Morrison's alive.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um who's the other one? Uh, oh, Andy
Kaufman, of course.
>> Oh, right.
>> I had um who was his sidekick? Andy
Kaufman's sidekick.
[sighs]
>> Bob Zamuda.
>> Bob Zamuda. Yeah.
>> So, I had Bob Zamuda. He'd written He
had written a book about Andy Kaufman
and claiming he's still alive. So, he
comes over to my I was doing my show in
my garage at that point and he comes
over and uh about 45 minutes into the
podcast, I go uh I go, "So, how does
Andy's family feel about you saying this
stuff about him still being alive?" And
he's like, "Oh, they're fine with that."
I said, "I kind of heard that they're,
you know, a little myiff that they they
think it's disrespectful. He's clearly
dead."
So, we go back and forth and it gets
super heated and he flips out and he
throws his chair over and he [ __ ]
storms out and that was the end of the
podcast. And I was just like, "All
right, that was weird." And I'm here to
announce for the first time that was a
fake.
It was an Andy Kaufmanesque stunt
>> really
>> that he flipped out and left the
podcast. Yeah.
>> And you never talked about it?
>> Nope. We did it in the spirit of Andy
Kaufman
[laughter]
>> and people were probably like, "Oh my
god, this is so
>> 11 years ago asking about it."
>> Bob's moon meltdown on Greg for Timman's
podcast. A very interesting
conversation, but when it escalates at
the end, it just blows up. Question:
real or Kaufmanesque stunt. [laughter]
Oh, that's funny. That's funny. And you
kept it under wraps.
>> I've never talked about it.
>> That's funny. That Well, that makes
sense with Zamura. He would do that Tony
Clifton character.
>> Oh my god. Yeah. And he would he would
dress up as Andy Kaufman's Tony Clifton
and do, you know, do appearances.
>> Well, yeah. Andy would say, "I'm coming
to Vegas to do the Tony Clifton
character." And then Zamuda would be the
one doing it. And people always be going
like, "What the [ __ ] I just paid $150
[laughter]
Andy Coffin."
>> Yeah. He did a lot of odd stuff.
Remember when he worked as a waiter at
Jerry's Famous Deli?
>> Oh, I didn't know that.
>> Oh, no. He worked as a bus boy. There's
a photo of him on the wall while he was
on Taxi. So, he was on the biggest
television show in the country. Yeah.
>> And he had like an apron on and he was
carrying a a a [ __ ] dish tray
>> filled with like people's dirty dishes.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. That photo, look at that photo.
That photo photo was on the wall at
Jerry's famous deli.
>> Andy Coffman worked there. So, he was on
TV. He was a huge star. And you would go
and order a pastrami rubin and Andy
Coffin would clean your table.
>> Yeah.
>> What about the wrestling women was
genius.
>> Oh, he did a lot of nutty [ __ ] man.
>> Dude, he locked into that character.
People went nuts.
>> Is that a video?
>> I think so.
>> Oh, that's hilarious.
>> Well, [snorts] there's a documentary
about it. That's what was just popping
up
>> of him working at Jerry's after him. I
This is I guess a trailer for it.
>> Oh, so it's a do just a documentary
about him. He was a nut, man.
That was the one movie where like a lot
of people kind of freaked out about Jim
Carrey where like he kind of got way too
into that role and sort of like almost
like
>> seemed to embody Andy Kaufman.
>> Oh, he talked about that it [ __ ] him
up afterwards. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And offstage he was he acted like an
[ __ ] to people.
>> How weird.
>> Which is not like him,
>> right? How weird.
>> Yeah. that that that whole method acting
thing like becoming a per especially an
actual human where you have to sort of
like figure out their brain patterns and
their behavior patterns and imitate it
and then you get trapped in it.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, says Siguru was in talks to play
Simuda in a movie.
>> Oh wow.
>> Recently
>> that's what this article is about that.
This is very confusing because I saw
when I had that up I saw this
screenshot. I'm like why is Tom in that?
Oh, interesting.
>> Yeah, this article from 2024.
>> Oh, interesting.
>> I don't know what happened to it.
Doesn't seem like much, but yeah, that's
all.
>> There's a good documentary. It just came
out last week on um Mel Brooks. I mean,
you can't understate Mel Brooks's effect
on every whether you're a comedian or a
writer or a comedy director. That guy
just I mean when I was a kid, my dad
used to play 20,000-y old man for me,
those albums with Rob Reiner, I'm sorry,
Carl Riner,
>> and I was obsessed. And The Producers
was my father's favorite movie. It
became my favorite movie
>> and um you know, you just think about
like how [ __ ] your show of shows as a
writer early on and you know, and just
going on to do
>> Young Frankenstein.
>> Young Frankenstein.
Blazing Saddles.
>> Blazing Saddles. You know who the movie
talks about? You know who wrote Blazing
Saddles with him?
>> Who?
>> Richard Prior.
>> Oh, that makes sense.
>> Isn't that [ __ ] crazy? He was
supposed to play the sheriff.
>> Wow. Space Balls.
>> Space Balls.
>> Yeah, that's crazy.
>> But it's a two-part documentary. I only
saw the first half. And u
>> Space Balls is the reason why Tesla's
Model S is called the Plaid.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious.
>> It's also the reason why the Starship is
shaped the way it is at the tip.
>> Uhhuh. Like Elon wanted to be like space
balls. He's like, "Make it more pointy."
>> Uh-huh. Oh, that's funny. [laughter]
>> He loves space balls.
>> Yeah, that's so funny. Oh, yeah. That
would be perfect for him.
>> Of course.
>> Wow.
>> Of course. Of course.
>> Are you going to get an Optimus when it
comes out? You going to have a robot
companion in your home?
>> Oh, hell yeah. Why wouldn't you?
>> Cuz I don't want a robot in my house
that's connected to the internet.
>> I don't have Alexa. I don't have
anything in my home. I don't have any
speakers that can listen to me because
they are listening. Dude, how often are
you
>> talking about like I I started getting
Austin feeds, little videos in my
Instagram feed about Austin. I never get
those. I started getting them yesterday.
>> The [ __ ] is that?
>> Didn't know you're coming. Yeah. Well,
uh, didn't wasn't there a lawsuit that
Google had just recently settled where
it turned out that
>> there were certain times where your
phone was listening to you, which is why
you're getting ads for things that you
had discussed.
>> Oh, yeah. Happens all the time.
>> But it's it was a rumor for a long time.
It was like that's just a conspiracy
theory. Like people like this seems
weird.
>> Google settled 68 million in class
action over alleged recording of private
conversations.
>> That's nothing.
>> Yeah, it's pretty small.
>> That's nothing. Yeah. So, what is it?
What was the accusation? They have
agreed to pay $68 million to settle a
class action lawsuit alleging they
unlawfully recorded users conversations
through Google Assist enabled devices
without consent. The proposed Google
settlement is pending approval from a
federal judge US District Court for
Northern District of California. class
action lawsuit was filed in 2019 after
consumers accused Google of concealing
that the that its assistant enabled
devices could unintentionally activate
and record conversations inside users
homes. So that's just for that. But
that's like did not intentionally
activate it with a hot word such as hey
Google because it's listening to you all
the time. So it's listening for you to
say hey Google. But that's you know
that's just Google assistant devices.
I don't have one of those. And but yet
my phone will bring up suggestions and
ads for things that I've discussed that
I haven't looked up.
>> Just have conversations about it and
it'll pop up.
>> That's crazy.
>> I don't think they would tell you. I
think it's all metadata. It's all
hidden. It's all there's no way to know.
And we all know. We all kind of know.
>> And you know,
>> and people go like, "Well, I'm not I
don't I'm not a criminal. I got nothing
to hide." Yeah, but you don't understand
the ramifications of this information.
If somebody is in office and they want
to start using keywords to locate people
that they're going to have audited, like
they just some some woman got uh was
protesting ICE and you know they've got
this facial recognition software that
lets them know your name, your address.
>> Is that Palunteer? Is that what they're
using?
>> It's something. No, it's not Palanteer.
It's something like that. But this woman
went to the airport, her TSA was
cancelled.
>> What? Yeah.
>> What? Because she was a protester.
That's it.
>> Yep.
>> Just protesting.
>> Yep.
>> Really?
>> No. They're they're taking they're
taking your license plate. They're
taking people's faces and they're
running it through. They had one one
woman went from a protest to her house
and there was a car parked out front
with ICE agents in it saying, "We know
where you live."
>> What?
>> Yeah.
>> That's all she did was go to a protest.
Yeah. That's it.
>> I mean, I'm sure she interacted. She was
probably yelling out or whatever.
>> She wasn't a part of the organizers of
the protest or anything like that
because
>> maybe she was an organizer.
>> This is the the weird thing is the
organiz these signal chats and
everything. It's this is all being like
very coordinated and very funded.
>> Like this is a very coordinated thing
like what they're doing where they're
doxing these ICE agents and the whole
thing is
>> it's all very [ __ ] weird. Yeah.
>> The point about the Google stuff though
is the people that go, "Oh, I'm not
doing anything illegal." You are giving
them your data and that data is a
commodity and they are getting insanely
wealthy off of getting your data in an
unscrupulous way,
>> right?
>> They're not telling you they're doing
this thing and they're getting your data
and that data is making them insanely
wealthy and then they use that wealth in
a bunch of different ways to influence
all sorts of things in the world.
>> And that's what's going on. But nobody
ever thought that their data was going
to be a commodity. Mhm.
>> Nobody ever gave a [ __ ] about their
email address or what they're interested
in online,
>> but it turns out that's [ __ ] insanely
valuable to advertisers.
>> Mhm.
>> And that's it's also it's like, you
know, they're listening.
>> You know, they're listening. They're
listening to things.
>> Yeah. They're listening. And uh yeah,
it's it's it there's people now
[laughter] using Chad GBT to do therapy.
Have you heard about that?
>> Yeah. Yeah. And meanwhile, she might
tell you to kill yourself like that.
>> Not only that, but you're telling your
innermost embarrassing things. You think
that's not going to be used against you
at some point when you try to get health
insurance and health insurance has now
audited what you said to chat GBT and
goes, "Well, you're a suicide risk or
you're talking about trying to quit
smoking. Now we know you're smoking."
Any details?
Wasn't there an instance real recently
where someone had uploaded top secret
information to chat GPT to a public a
government official had see if you can
find this government official uploaded
to a public chat GPT not like some
secure encrypted version that the
government gets because they were trying
to go over some data. Here it is. US
cyber defense chief accidentally
uploaded secret government info to chat
GPT.
>> Jesus.
>> So they grilled the acting chief on a
mass layoffs in a failed polygraph.
Failed polygraph is hilarious. So uh
this guy, good luck saying his name
accidentally uploaded sensitive
information to a public version of chat
GBT last summer. Accord accidentally
according to four Department of Homeland
Security officials with knowledge of the
incident. Try to say that guy's name.
>> Gotamakula.
>> Is that it?
>> Gotamakula.
>> Okay. Gotamakula.
>> He plays defense for the Rams.
>> Uploads. [laughter]
Seems like a [ __ ] big Polish guy. Uh
uploads of uh sensitive
CISA contracting documents triggered
multiple internal cyber security
warnings designed to stop theft or
unintentional disclosure of government
material from federal networks. And this
[ __ ] guy's the director of cyber
security and infrastructure security.
That's
>> well what does it mean accidentally
upload? Did it did it ease drop on him
or did he [clears throat] say something
that caused chat GBT to
>> it? It seems like he uploaded the data
like he was probably trying to parse out
the data.
>> Just hired too or just joined the
agency.
>> Oh great. [laughter]
>> Oh my god.
The information was not confidential but
marked for official use only.
>> Dude, I feel like
>> I feel like Russia and China know
everything
>> and we know everything about Russia and
China,
>> right?
>> And they're all ratting on each other.
Palunteer app use ICE uses to find
neighborhoods to raid. Yeah. So it is
Palunteer at least for that.
>> Yeah. The article he had it was blocked
by a payw wall. I couldn't I was trying
to get around.
nuts.
>> Joe Rogan Experience. Can't afford to
pay for Is this it? We're wrapping it
up.
>> Let's wrap this [ __ ] up. It's four
o'clock.
>> Can I name some dates?
>> [ __ ] yeah.
>> I will be at the Philadelphia Helium, as
I said, uh Valentine's Day weekend.
>> Great [ __ ] club.
>> I'm going to be in Sacramento at the
Punchline next week. And then I'm going
to be in Lexington, Kentucky at Comedy
Off Broadway.
>> Great [ __ ] club. And this is
great.com.
go to the the link for standup dates,
plenty of gigs,
>> the podcast or Sunday Papers with Mike
Gibbons, which oh by the way, thank you
for the shout out. You and Bert Chryser
gave me a little love bath yesterday.
That was nice. So yeah, he was talking
about Sunday Papers I've been doing with
Mike for a long time. And then Fitz Dog
Radio that you've been on many times.
>> Ye [ __ ] ha. All right, we're going to
wrap it up. You're at the mothership
this weekend. I'm very excited about
that.
>> You going to come down?
>> [ __ ] yeah.
>> [ __ ] yeah. All right, good. Goodbye.
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The video discusses various topics, including the proliferation of AI-generated content, the nuances of stand-up comedy club management and development, and the societal impact of technology. It touches upon the ethical concerns surrounding AI, such as its potential to mislead or cause harm, and contrasts the old model of comedy development with the new landscape shaped by social media and AI. The conversation also delves into the history of comedy clubs, the importance of nurturing new talent, and the evolving nature of the entertainment industry. Specific examples like the impact of AI on filmmaking and the controversial use of AI in chatbots are highlighted. The speakers reflect on the challenges and opportunities within the comedy world, emphasizing the need for authentic talent development amidst technological advancements.
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