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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

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>> The Joe Rogan Experience.

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>> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY

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NIGHT. All day.

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>> Hey, do [music] Hey, does a red light

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therapy really help your [ __ ] eyes?

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>> 100%.

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>> I'm doing it.

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>> Are we rolling?

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>> Yeah.

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>> My eyes are so [ __ ]

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>> Yeah.

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>> I can't see. Joe,

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>> get one of them Gary Brea beds for your

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house. Well, there's a bunch of

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companies that sell them, but you want

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like a really powerful red light bed. I

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did it this morning. Dude, it changed my

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vision.

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>> I can't When I'm in the shower, I can't

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read shampoo, bath gel.

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>> Whoa.

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>> Like, I'm like, dude, why do they need

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to be small? Can't you just make it big

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as [ __ ] so everyone can see it?

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>> They're not that small.

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>> I Well, they're I can't see them. And

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then I'm getting out naked putting on

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readers to see what I'm [ __ ]

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[laughter]

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I've washed my hair with conditioner so

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many times.

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>> Yeah, mine was getting bad. Mine was

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getting where I needed these [ __ ]

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things, which I haven't picked up in

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months. I heard you say that and I was

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like, dude, changed my life. I did uh

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went to Ways Dwell the other day and I

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did the red light bed every day. Every

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day until I Googled how much it cost.

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That thing's [ __ ] expensive.

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>> It's expensive. The real one. But

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Whitney got one that's not that

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expensive and it's fixed her eyes.

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>> She got one that she sits in front of

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every day for like 20 minutes or

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something like that.

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>> I love that.

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>> Oh, dude. It's amazing. But the big

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ones, the beds, they help your your

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whole body recover. They're like, we

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could let's let's put it put that into

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perplexity and say what is the benefits

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of powerful red light therapy?

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I [ __ ] I use AI so much now. I was in

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the beginning I was resisting it so

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much. Then Perplexity came on as a

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sponsor and now instead of searching

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things online, I just ask the phone. I

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just pull up the the app and ask it a

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question. I don't have to type anything

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and then it gives me an answer and then

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I could say well what's the benefits of

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it and then it'll list out the benefits

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and then I'll say what are the cons and

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it'll list out the cons like is there

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you know there there any people that

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disagree with complexity.

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>> Yeah.

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>> So I got I got one my questions are

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always like they're always more like

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about me. So I [laughter] look

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>> they're they're very

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>> Why do you look yourself up?

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>> No, no, not about No, I don't look

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myself up. It's about like No, my my

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health or my experience in life. So like

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So like I was like I was the other day I

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was in bed. I was like, "All right,

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>> I think my generation

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had the greatest run."

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>> Like out of out of all the generations

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around, my generation Gen X had the

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greatest run. We got great childhoods,

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right?

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>> Right.

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>> We got to experience cell phones. We got

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to be impressed by the cell phone,

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>> right?

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>> We uh we had 9/11, which wasn't great,

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but was a time of the country healed,

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right? Everyone wants a big tragedy like

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the JFK shooting. You want that moment

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where you walk by a bar and they're

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like, "What what are you doing?" Like,

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"You haven't heard." We got one of

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those.

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>> We had the pandemic, which is insane,

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right?

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>> We had our music probably better. We had

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rock. We had I mean, just the all the

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internet took off. So, we got to

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experience that. I think my generation

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Gen X has yours too, right?

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>> Right. Yeah, I'm

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>> so I asked that to chat GBT and it and I

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was wrong.

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>> What do you mean?

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>> The greatest generation is actually

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labeled the greatest generation. It's my

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grandmother, your grandmother. They

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experienced horse and buggy.

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They then went they saw cars. They saw

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television. All within the time they had

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horse and buggy, they saw people land on

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the moon.

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>> I mean, all that [ __ ] Telephones.

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[laughter]

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who got [ __ ] with the baby boomers.

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They were just old enough to not

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understand cell phones. Like they got

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[ __ ] Millennials got [ __ ]

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Millennials got real [ __ ]

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>> Yeah. I don't know about the greatest

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generation. I think I think you're

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correct. I think the passage of the

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internet, like the internet going

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through our lives and and cell phones,

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like I experienced VHS tapes first.

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Yeah.

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>> Then I exper answering machines, that

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was a big one. Caller ID, you know who's

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calling you. You could just duck people.

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That was crazy.

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>> I remember when caller ID showed up.

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Then I remember Star 69 showed up where

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you could block your caller ID.

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>> Star 69 was good because you could call

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people back that were pranking you.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Like, "Hey, motherfucker." They're like,

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"What? What's going on,

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>> dude?" We got prank calls. My kid my my

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kids didn't never got prank calls. Like,

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they never understood what a prank call

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was.

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>> The Jerky Boys.

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>> Jerky Boys were [ __ ] amazing,

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>> dude.

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>> Those guys were so funny. So, those

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recordings were so funny. You know who

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did a great [ __ ] prank call vid uh

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recording? Greg Fitz Simmons.

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>> Really?

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>> Oh my god, it's hilarious. He did this

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one where he called a rental car place

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and he said that it's the car was on

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fire because they they went to the gas

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station and they filled up pots and pans

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with gas and they put it in the back

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seat and [ __ ] Bobby smoking and now

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the car's on fire. Like you got to hear

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this guy freaking out. What do you mean

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the car's on fire? It's you can't do

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that anymore,

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>> dude. Greg, you know when people go

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like, "Uh, what kind of music you listen

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to?" And you talk to a real musician

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like you talk to the Black Keys, right?

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And then you go like, "What do you guys

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listen to?" And they're like, "Have you

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heard of the Velvet Thud or something?"

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>> Right. Right. They got some obscure and

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they're like, "That's what you need to

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listen to." When people say, "I listen

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to Sunday Papers. That's Fitz Simmons

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and Gibbons podcast." I go, "You're real

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comedy fans. Those are the two funniest

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human beings alive ever." Greg Fitz

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Simmons. When I got ready for Lucky, I

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brought him on the road with me. I was

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like, "Dude, I trust you. Just tell me

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where I'm sloppy. Tell me where I'm

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lazy. Tell me where I'm leaving jokes."

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And that first night he was like, "You

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got a minute." And he went through my

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whole hour. He's like, "I think you're

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leaving this on the table." Dude, those

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[ __ ] are the funniest dudes

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alive.

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>> Yeah. Greg's awesome. We started out

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together. We We started like one week

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apart from each other

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>> for real.

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>> Yeah. Literally, we went on the road.

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God, in the early days, Greg and I

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traveled everywhere. We We did open mic.

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We would drive to Rhode Island, do open

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mics together.

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He was a great example of the first dude

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I ever saw talking about his family on

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stage and it wasn't nerdy.

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>> Right. Right. Right.

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>> Him and his son ran a train on his wife.

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>> What?

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>> It was a great joke. He was like, "I had

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my first threesome." Uh, it was with my

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son, so it's a little awkward. I'm

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[ __ ] Greg's joke up. He goes, "My son

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was breastfeeding. I was getting her

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from behind. [laughter]

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We had to high five in the middle." But

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I remember hearing that as a can

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remember when remember being a dad as a

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comic was like off limits.

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>> Right. Right. And I saw that and I just

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had Georgia. The second person I saw,

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the first person is Greg. The second

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person I saw and I I mean I'm talking

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just had Georgia was Louis [ __ ] CK. I

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went and worked the road with him and he

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was doing all the material for that

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first special that popped for him and he

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was talking about his kids and he was

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just like, "My daughter's a cunt."

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[laughter]

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And he goes, "I know you're not supposed

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to say that, but what else do you say to

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someone who won't put their shoes on?

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They're a [ __ ] [laughter] We're trying

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to leave the house and they won't put

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their shoes. Imagine if you wouldn't

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leave." And it was just like and it was

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like I'm sitting there, you know, lost

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in like what I thought was standup was

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like some imitation of Dne, you know,

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and I'm watching Louis going like this

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is something totally different.

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>> Yeah, those guys. Best prank call I've

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ever heard. Sidebar, Brendan Walsh.

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>> Brennan Walsh is a funny [ __ ]

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>> Brendon Wall,

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>> what's he up to?

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>> I don't know. I think he does like like

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a like he's always been like more more

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art comedy, you know, like more like

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performance. He does these podcasts

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where he puts a neck brace on and a wig

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and giant glasses and he plays a

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character. He's a funny dude, man.

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>> Do you remember?

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>> He's an Austin guy.

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>> He was an Austin guy. He was He was

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>> I remember he Do you remember he was on

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your podcast? He I remember him telling

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the story and I I think about this all

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the time. A circus city had closed by

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his house and so and he lives in Silver

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Lake. Do you remember?

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>> That's right. He made a prank we told

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everybody was turning into a Whole Foods

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[laughter]

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and he got everybody so excited. Oh,

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Whole Foods is going to be a Silver

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Lake.

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>> He just did it for himself [laughter] so

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that he could be in the coffee shop and

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hear people talking about Whole Foods.

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>> He did a prank call. I think Stan Hope

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sent it to me. He was like, "This is the

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best prank call ever." And it's Brendan

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calling a sec, like a a phone sex. And

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you know, they always try to keep you on

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the line, right?

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>> So he's like, "Hey, what are you

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wearing?" She was like, "Nothing. What

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are you wearing?" He's like, "Nothing."

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And then you hear like a a dog barking

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in the back. And she goes, "Is that is

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that your dog?" He's like, "Yeah, yeah.

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Ignore him. Ignore him." And then the

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dog barks a little longer. And he's

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like, "Tell me what what are you

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touching yourself?" And then you hear a

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baby crying in the back. And he's like,

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she's like, "Is that your baby?" And

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he's like, "No, it's fine. It's fine.

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It's a different room. It's I'm totally

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fine." And then you hear a woman come in

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and go, "Are you on the [ __ ] phone

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sex again?" And he's like, "Hey, leave

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me alone." And she's like, "Is there do

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you need one to do this later?" He's

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like, "Don't worry about it." And then

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you hear a marching band come in playing

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alua.

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[laughter] And he's just trying to hold

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her on the line. Dude, I was cry. That

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is like like you know, not to like get

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too meta about it, but comedy has become

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so and I'm a part of this of so

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self-promotional and put it on. I got I

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got to think it's a new show. When you

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see someone like Brendan or like or like

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Greg and Mike who ju who just do it for

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the pure just to make themselves giggle.

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>> Yeah.

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>> It's so beautiful. Gillis is like that.

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>> Yeah. Gillis is Gillis. I always think

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he's just a like a like a my my favorite

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Shane Gillis story to that I will for

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the until I die. We're doing uh we're

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doing Fully Loaded the first year and

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it's Shane's on everyone. Mark's on

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everyone. Nikki's on everyone. It's like

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it's stop. It's the best year we

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probably did it. No offense. And Shane

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go sees my daughter George who's being a

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PA with her friend Daisy. And it's the

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very last night and Shane walks up and

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he's like, "You guys sneaking beers?"

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And they're like, "No." He goes, "Oh,

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come on. I'm not gonna rat you out." And

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they're like, "No, we're not." He's

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like, "Come on. You're 18 years old.

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You're on tour. It's our last night. You

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guys are sneaking beers." And they're

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like, "We're not sneaking beers." He

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goes, "I can smell the beer on you." And

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they're like, "We we've been sneak

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sneaking beers." And he goes, "Okay."

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And he just sits down right next to me.

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He goes, "George is sneaking beers."

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[laughter]

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>> Did you know she was sneaking beers?

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>> No. I had no idea. Shane just [ __ ]

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ratted her out. She's your daughter.

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>> Yeah.

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>> You're getting hammered every night.

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You're not going to notice. Like dad's

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drunk. [laughter]

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>> He won't even know if we're drunk.

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>> Oh, she would. Yeah. She It's funny

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because I go to like her college and

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other dads, you know, party and then and

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like she's like she doesn't She's always

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like

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kind of low-key about it. Like the dads

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will like bite beer cans and kill them

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and shotgun beers.

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>> What?

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>> I know. That's what dads do.

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>> Really?

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>> Yeah.

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>> Which dads? I don't mean any of these

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dads.

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>> You're in a different school zone.

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>> The uh that's what dads do. And and I'm

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always like, you know, this is what I do

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for a living. Like I can [ __ ] murder

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these guys. She's like, "Dad, I'm like,

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oh, you like him crushing a beer and

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shotgunning it." [ __ ] I can micro

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dose. What are we talking about?

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[laughter]

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What were you telling about? Um

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>> Jamie,

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>> you were tell I'm sorry. Right before we

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get started, you were telling me about

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something

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>> SC the REM sleep or lucid dreaming

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[snorts] sleep communication. I got to

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figure out how where I put it.

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>> I sent a DM to someone about it. I think

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>> so. I got to tell you before we find. So

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Eddie Bravo calls me the other day and

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he goes, "Did Burke Chryser lose

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everything and then get it back?" I go,

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"What?" And he goes, "Yeah, it was so

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confusing." He was on Shannon Sharp show

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and Shannon says says to Bert, "What was

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it like? You lost everything." and then

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you had to build it back. And he goes,

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"It seemed like it wasn't true." I go,

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"It's not true." And I go, "Did Burke go

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along with it?" He goes, "Yeah." I go,

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"WHAT?"

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And I couldn't wait to talk TO YOU ABOUT

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IT CUZ I COULD totally picture someone

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saying to you some story that totally

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never happened and you not wanting to be

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confrontational, so you just go along

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with it. Is that what happened?

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>> 100%. [laughter]

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>> 100%.

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>> [ __ ] show. How did you not say that

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never happened? [laughter]

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>> He just caught me off guard.

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>> HE CAUGHT YOU OFF GUARD.

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>> I WAS LIKE,

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>> did did at any point in time you say I

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should probably say this never happened.

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No.

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>> I was like he was like you lost

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everything in my head. I was like I did.

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He was [laughter] like he was like BUT

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YOU MADE IT ALL BACK. AND I GO I DID.

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>> WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM?

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>> I HAVE NO IDEA. [laughter] HE SAID IT.

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And I just was like uh-huh. Uh-huh.

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>> Why did you say that?

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>> I don't know. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I

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SAID AFTER. He's like how did you do it?

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And I JUST WAS LIKE, MAN, I JUST LIKE I

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don't know, Shannon. I just focused and

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really strugg like I have no [ __ ]

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clue. I should not be allowed to talk on

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microphones. I literally was like, I

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don't know what I said even after it to

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be honest with you. But I was like, I

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guess he has it in his notes. So I was

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like, yeah.

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>> So someone must have googled Bur

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Crusher. It probably some Reddit thread.

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Bird Crusher lost everything,

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>> I guess. And like you know the stories

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about you online are are more prevalent

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than the true ones. So you just go I

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guess that's what he heard.

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>> You just went with it.

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>> I don't know. I don't

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>> That's so weird to do.

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>> I was I had no I I was like in my head I

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was like trying to think maybe he was

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talking about like you know I had

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development deals when I got into the

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business.

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>> Yeah you didn't lose them. They gave you

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money. Just never became a show. Oh, but

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then no, but I'm saying like maybe I was

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in my head I was like maybe he's

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thinking that like you know I had a lot

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of development deals early and then I

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didn't for a few years and I worked the

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road and maybe that's what he was saying

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and then I made I'm back. I don't know.

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I was like

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>> but even when you worked the road, you

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worked the road then you had the Travel

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Channel show. There was no period where

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it made sense.

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>> By the way, that is the least of my fist

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to fry on that [ __ ] show. I got in so

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much trouble that that show every clip

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you do goes viral. every I just am like

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I I I was as when I got done that I

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haven't felt this in a long time. I was

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like I was like wow. I was like I think

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I'm going to get a lot of texts when

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this airs.

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>> Well, it seems like he wants that,

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right? He's got a [clears throat] lot of

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people on the show that talk a lot of

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[ __ ] A lot of people like Cat Williams

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famously was that that episode was

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[ __ ] amazing.

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>> We talked about that.

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>> He just went in on everybody including

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me. That's why I got him on the podcast.

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He said, "Joe Rogan want to have me on."

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>> Has the same funny [ __ ]

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>> Unfunny. Yeah. Same seven unfunny

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[ __ ]

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I was like, "Dude, I love Cat Williams.

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What are you talking about?"

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>> He's the best.

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>> I'm like, I never met him.

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>> Yeah.

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>> I had never met him before. It's like it

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wasn't that I wouldn't have him on. It's

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like I didn't even know he wanted to

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come on. I would have had him on.

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>> That interview was with him was epic.

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>> Amazing. And accurate. The thing about

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his [ __ ] talking is it's not he's not

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lying.

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>> No.

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>> No. It's it's you know it's

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when I got out I was like it's I don't I

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don't mean this with disrespect but it's

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less Shannon I think more as producers

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because he's got cards. So I think the

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producers are like what what clip's

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going to pop? I think they go online,

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>> right? They try to find controversial

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subjects.

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>> Like he brought up I told you he brought

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up one. He's like, "Bert, you think

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Kevin Hart's just lucky?" And I was

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like, "Oh."

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>> I was like, "I said that [ __ ] 12

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years ago." And it was just it was all

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it was. And I know I'm I'm even But it

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was this is what it was, Joe, is like at

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a time when I we none of us were making

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money. Not you, but like the younger

15:25

compan

15:28

knows I love him, but Kevin's like, "I'm

15:30

the hardest working [ __ ] I'm

15:31

the hardest working. And in my head, I

15:32

was like, we're all working hard. Like,

15:34

but a lot of people, you know, were

15:36

just, you know, waiting for a moment to

15:38

to to get in front of people. And then I

15:40

was like, and then I had an agent very

15:42

casually, like not mine, but at a thing

15:44

goes, you know, Kevin should mention how

15:46

lucky he got. I was like, what do you

15:48

mean? He's like, you know about fool's

15:50

gold, right? I was like, no. He's like,

15:52

"Well, that's the beef between Kevin and

15:53

Cat is Cat packed a gun in his luggage

15:56

to go shoot fool's gold and he got

15:59

detained and they were in production and

16:01

they're like, "We need we need someone

16:03

small and black to fit these clothes. We

16:04

already got clothes for him." Yeah. And

16:06

he's like, "Get Kevin Hart." And that

16:09

was the story I wanted Kevin to tell

16:11

because that as a comic, you can kind of

16:14

put your head around that. And I've and

16:15

and by the way, I did not do a good job

16:17

of explaining it on Shannon's show

16:19

because it's like, you know, I'm a

16:21

[ __ ] talk out of my ass, but like

16:24

every comic has had these like moments

16:26

that skyrocket them, right? These

16:28

moments that pop and and I went through

16:30

it and I think you'll understand it now,

16:32

but for me it was the machine story

16:34

going viral. For for Bill Burr, it's the

16:36

Philly rant with Bill. That Philly rant

16:38

just put him in the next level. Jim

16:40

Jeff, he gets punched in the head at the

16:42

comedy seller or comedy store in London.

16:45

His manager happens to be a guy that

16:46

knows the internet, Brett Vincent,

16:48

posted on MySpace, goes viral. Every

16:50

comic that pops always has that. Tom, as

16:54

I was telling this to Tom, he goes,

16:55

"Yeah, it was me Netflix." He was like,

16:57

"Tom got on Netflix." I mean, I didn't

16:59

even realize this. Tom said it to me. He

17:02

got on Netflix when there were two

17:03

comics on Netflix.

17:05

Bill Burr and Tom Seagura. Bill puts his

17:08

special out there like, "Did you like

17:09

Bill Burr? You might like Tom Sigura."

17:11

And Tom's like, "If Comedy Central had

17:13

bought my hour, I would have been

17:14

fucked." But instead, I sold it to this

17:16

small streamer, Netflix, and the only

17:18

other one they had was Bill Burr. And

17:20

so,

17:21

>> as comics, I think sometimes, and you

17:23

know how much I believe in luck, it's so

17:25

e it's easier to hear about someone's

17:28

luck where you go, "Oh, that is crazy

17:30

that happen stance." I mean, we've said

17:32

it about you and I know you you probably

17:34

disagree maybe to a certain extent, but

17:37

you're I thought I think the greatest

17:39

thing that ever happened to you was that

17:43

getting kicked out of the comedy store

17:44

that that period of time where you had

17:46

to reeval evaluate yourself and you

17:48

created this what you have and you re I

17:50

mean you would speak to it better than I

17:52

could, but I think as comics we look at

17:54

you reinventing yourself and re

17:56

imagining yourself and and making it

17:58

your own [ __ ] entity and creating

18:01

this podcast which is changed all of our

18:04

lives that moment and it must have been

18:06

tough to lose your agent get kicked out

18:08

of the comedy store and have to figure

18:10

things out that we all got be everyone

18:13

got behind you everyone was like that's

18:14

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an impact. You know, it was also the

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Mensia video where people could clearly

19:40

see that I was right.

19:41

>> Yes.

19:41

>> And then we were all a victim. Like we

19:44

were all hiding at the store. Like when

19:46

he would go on stage or he wouldn't be

19:48

in the back of the room if you were on

19:49

stage, they would flash the light to let

19:51

you know that he was in the room. Mhm.

19:53

>> You know how crazy that is that there's

19:55

a guy around that steals so much that

19:57

they have to flash a light whenever a

20:00

comic's on stage and then comics would

20:02

just start doing crowd work.

20:04

>> Yeah, that's insane to me.

20:05

>> It was crazy. So all the comics knew

20:09

that what I was saying was the truth and

20:12

it was proved by like the consequences

20:14

of someone who was already successful,

20:16

right? So I was already on Fear Factor

20:18

at the time. I was already a known

20:19

person and I lost my agent and I got

20:22

kicked out of the store. Like

20:23

>> that video that video was I akin to the

20:28

Philly rant Jim Jeff getting p that

20:30

viral moment for you which

20:32

>> it was also how well Red Band put it

20:34

together too cuz he's such a good

20:35

editor. He's so brilliant. It was music.

20:38

He went back in time. He like you know

20:41

like he spent a lot of time working on

20:43

that. It was a work of art. But it was,

20:45

you know, it was the first time that

20:47

someone was held accountable because,

20:48

you know, we don't have to name names,

20:50

but we all know people who snuck through

20:53

and still kind of have careers, although

20:57

greatly diminished impact because like

21:00

when they go on stage now, people are

21:02

excited to see them cuz they're famous

21:04

and then that immediately goes away when

21:06

you realize there's nothing there. They

21:07

have no material because they have to

21:09

write for themselves now.

21:11

>> Yeah. You see a giant drop off. If you

21:14

see the early specials with like great

21:16

jokes and really funny and then you see

21:18

like what is this nonsense towards the

21:21

end, it's just like weird [ __ ] like

21:24

nonsensical rants on thing. It's bizarre

21:28

to watch. But that's what happens when

21:30

you get exposed and you have to do your

21:32

own [ __ ] And there's a few of those

21:33

guys floating around out there.

21:35

>> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's crazy because the

21:38

one thing

21:39

>> cigar

21:39

>> uh I can't smoke cigars.

21:41

>> Really? What happened?

21:42

>> Blood clot. Oh, that's right.

21:44

>> Yeah, the I'm not supposed to smoke

21:46

cigars. I mean, I could text my

21:47

cardiologist and see what he says.

21:49

>> I heard cigars are good for you. I heard

21:51

they gave them to to Teddy Roosevelt.

21:54

>> Yeah, look what happened to him.

21:55

>> You know, I could have one cigar. If

21:56

you're going to smoke one in here, I

21:57

mean, dog, come on, son.

22:00

>> Just do it like old school Rogan where I

22:03

anytime I smoked weed, you had to pull

22:04

the camera away from me [laughter]

22:06

>> because you're on a travel channel.

22:11

Uh yeah, I mean we all have a moment

22:14

where things but it's like an

22:16

accumulation of those moments, right?

22:18

>> It's it's it's you know what it is. It's

22:20

like uh you get that moment like I'll

22:22

use Burr as an example because you know

22:26

only because I've talked to him about

22:27

this specifically, but like he he didn't

22:30

love the Philly rant because right away

22:31

everyone thought, "Oh, that's his thing.

22:32

We're going to we're going to heckle him

22:34

and he'll go lose his shit." So he

22:36

didn't love it. But the thing is that

22:38

that goes viral and then you Google that

22:40

person, you're like, "Who is this?" And

22:42

then you see a body of work that's

22:44

undeniable and you're like, "Oh, Bill

22:46

Burr is my guy." You know, uh, for for

22:49

for Shane, I mean, in my opinion, it's

22:53

it's that YouTube special he did and

22:55

then you see Gillian Keeves, you see all

22:58

his sketches.

22:58

>> It was also him getting kicked off of

23:00

SNL.

23:00

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:01

>> Him getting kicked off SNL was huge.

23:03

Yeah. It

23:03

>> was the best thing that ever happened to

23:04

him. if he was on SNL, he would have got

23:06

buried on that show like a lot of

23:07

people. [clears throat]

23:09

But instead, he gets kicked [snorts]

23:10

off. A bunch of people are mad at him

23:12

and then they're like, "Well, what did

23:13

he actually say?" And then people start

23:15

looking into it and they go, "Oh, he was

23:16

just [ __ ] around. He was pretending

23:18

to be a racist guy in Chinatown."

23:21

>> Yeah,

23:21

>> that was the bit. Like he was just they

23:23

were just talking [ __ ] on a podcast and

23:26

then he releases that special and you

23:28

go, "Oh, he's actually a great comic."

23:30

>> Dude, his Special Olympics

23:31

[clears throat] joke.

23:32

>> He's got so many good jokes. his special

23:34

Olympia jokes. We were in the bus one

23:35

time and uh my cousin Andrew goes, "Has

23:39

anyone know Shane Gillis?" And I I've

23:41

known Shane for a while. I've I have

23:43

hysterical emails that he sent me

23:46

>> back when he was like just like open mic

23:48

or whatever

23:49

>> like going like, "Hey man, I feel like

23:51

we connected.

23:53

They're the greatest. Joe,

23:55

>> he if he knew that I was he'd be she'd

23:59

face him and go, hey, can I read your

24:00

emails on on Joe?" He'd [ __ ] lose his

24:02

[ __ ] They're so [ __ ] hysterical,

24:04

Joe. I'll send them to you. And so, uh,

24:06

I go, "Yeah, I love Shane. I love

24:08

Shane." The day I met him, he goes,

24:09

"Uh," he's like, "Yeah, I'm supposed to

24:11

go out with my girlfriend tonight." And

24:12

I was like, "But, uh, it was like 10 in

24:14

the morning. We were drinking, uh,

24:15

fireball." And he was like, "Uh,

24:17

>> 10 in the morning."

24:18

>> Yeah. We were doing a I used to do call

24:19

sick to work shows where we go to the

24:21

>> fireball at 10:00 a.m.

24:23

>> He's like, that's what he said. He I'm

24:24

supposed to go my girlfriend. I said,

24:25

"What's your girlfriend's name?" He

24:26

goes, "Big tuna." And I went, "Big

24:28

tuna?" He goes, "She's a big girl." And

24:29

I was like, "Yeah, I figured for the

24:30

name, Shane." And then I [ __ ] I' that

24:32

from that day on, but that Special

24:34

Olympic jokes when he we listened to it

24:36

in the bus, he's like, "What do you

24:39

think? Should we race them?" I mean, it

24:41

we were crying [ __ ] laughing. That's

24:44

like one of my favorite jokes I've

24:46

[ __ ] ever.

24:46

>> He's got a lot of great bits. But

24:48

[clears throat] that special he did at

24:49

the creek in the cave that was like

24:51

people got to see. They're like, "Oh,

24:53

okay. Well, this is what he does. He he

24:55

he touches on that third wire."

24:57

>> Yeah.

24:57

>> You know, the third rail, rather. And

24:59

it's like, you know, it's funny. It's

25:01

really funny. And they were trying to

25:04

label him as this horrible racist that

25:06

Saturday Night Live hired. [snorts] But,

25:09

you know,

25:09

>> anything but from my opinion. But

25:11

>> that but that happens, man. You You're

25:13

going to, you know, you're going to get

25:16

attacked. There's always something.

25:18

There's always something that a comic

25:20

says where someone's going to get mad.

25:21

Especially in this day and age. People

25:22

are just looking for things to get mad.

25:24

But almost always it helps them. If

25:27

they're a good comic, almost always like

25:29

Tony Hinchcliffe, it blew him up. Like

25:31

almost always when something happens,

25:33

you get attacked. People start looking

25:35

at you go, "Actually, this guy's really

25:36

funny." And then they become a fan.

25:39

>> Yeah.

25:39

>> Cuz you're just getting so many more

25:41

eyeballs. The people that are looking to

25:42

hate you, they're going to hate you no

25:43

matter what. But there's going to be a

25:44

bunch of people that are all like,

25:46

"What's going on?" And then they look

25:48

into it. I mean, that happened to me

25:49

during co I gained 2 million followers

25:52

in like a month. two million followers

25:55

on on Spotify in a month when they were

25:57

trying to pull me off of Spotify. When

25:59

all like all these uh music artists were

26:03

calling me a vaccine denier and removing

26:05

their podcast or removing their music

26:08

like when uh Neil Young and was it Jonie

26:11

Mitchell? Yeah, Jonie Mitchell they they

26:13

publicly removed their their music from

26:16

Spotify because of my podcast

26:20

back. Yeah. I don't know if Jonie

26:21

Mitchell is, but yeah, Neil Young is I

26:23

don't even think Neil Young actually

26:24

owned his music, which was funny. I

26:26

think it was just like a ploy. I mean,

26:29

it's like I think he probably believed a

26:31

lot of things he was saying. He was just

26:33

misinformed. He just didn't understand

26:35

that I was actually talking to people

26:37

that were legitimate scientists that

26:39

turned out they were right. Now, now we

26:42

know.

26:43

>> Yeah. But back then it was like there

26:45

was this hysteria about it and a lot of

26:47

people that were very skeptical started

26:49

tuning in and then the whole [ __ ] CNN

26:51

thing when they turned me green like all

26:53

that [ __ ] it just that helped.

26:55

>> I don't know if I could have like I'm

26:57

not good that people always go you know

26:59

if they're talking about you it's good

27:00

all press is good press and I but

27:02

anytime anything negative comes out

27:04

about me it [ __ ] devastates me. I

27:06

don't like I could not have gone through

27:08

what you went through. You just don't I

27:09

just don't read it. If you don't read

27:12

like how do you because like you come up

27:14

in my news feed all the time

27:16

>> and and like and I I'm I'm such a

27:20

[ __ ] idiot that if I'm scrolling

27:21

through Google News and I see my name, I

27:23

go, "Oh, what's that?" And then I'm

27:25

like, "God damn it.

27:26

>> You can't do that."

27:27

>> Last time I did this show, greatest

27:29

experience, Gray Hang, Lucky streaming

27:31

number one on Netflix. I'm so [ __ ]

27:33

happy. I'm in my bed going things are

27:35

going good for the big guy. hit on

27:38

Google News and it's like picture of me

27:39

and you. I was like Burke Chryser Joe

27:41

Rogan and they're like Burke Chryser

27:42

ruins the Joe Rogan podcast. I'm like

27:44

[ __ ] [snorts]

27:45

It was an MMA [ __ ] journalist and I

27:47

was like wait why god damn it. I was

27:49

like and then and then you see it and

27:51

you're like well it can't be that bad.

27:52

I'm going to read it and they're like

27:54

[snorts]

27:55

oh my god. But then my daughter Georgia

27:58

said something very profound to me. She

28:01

was like why would you allow that? I'm

28:02

sure that guy will write that same

28:03

article after this episode. She goes,

28:06

"I'm sure he will." I think the guy also

28:08

has a [ __ ] football feed. He said, "I

28:10

ruined the any anytime I do something,

28:13

there's someone that says, "Brush, you

28:14

ruined it." And I'm the only one that

28:16

reads it. And my daughter Georgia goes

28:19

literally looked at me and goes, "Did

28:20

you have fun with Joe?" I went, "Yeah, I

28:21

had a blast. I love being around Joe."

28:23

She was like, "Then [ __ ] it." She goes,

28:24

"Your experience is the one that matters

28:26

the most." She goes, "What? Why would

28:28

you allow someone to dictate your memory

28:31

of an event?" And I was like, "Oh, who

28:34

the [ __ ] raised you?" I was like, "I

28:36

don't know."

28:37

>> Well, you were on the road. She probably

28:38

raised herself. [laughter]

28:40

>> That's why she's so wise. She had to

28:42

form her own opinions.

28:43

>> She didn't read books.

28:44

>> Yeah. She had to actually form her own

28:46

opinions and think about things

28:47

rationally. Having a father like you.

28:49

Yeah. You can't you can't pay attention

28:51

because the the vast majority of people

28:53

lived miserable lives. That's the Rose

28:55

quote. Mo most men live lives of quiet

28:58

desperation. There's a lot of people out

28:59

there that are very, very sad, very

29:01

unhappy, and looking to make something

29:05

negative. They're always looking to be a

29:07

critic,

29:08

which is fine. You know, that's their

29:10

prerogative, but it's not. You don't

29:12

have to read it.

29:13

>> Well, it's I I'm at the place now like I

29:16

took Google News, I took all Google and

29:17

everything off my phone because I the

29:20

series premiered and I didn't want to

29:21

get good or bad. I was like,

29:23

>> "Good."

29:23

>> Because you can't you can't quantify the

29:25

good.

29:26

>> Like, uh, like if you're gonna if you're

29:28

gonna listen to the good, you got to

29:29

listen to the bad.

29:31

>> And I was like, "Well, I don't want to

29:32

hear the bad." So, I just want to hear

29:33

the good. And then, uh, and then we were

29:36

Jamie and I were talking about this

29:37

outside, but like you have a social

29:39

media team who's posting like like like

29:42

your your your claps. Like they're

29:43

posting like the nice articles. And I'm

29:45

like, don't even post that because like

29:47

I don't even like just stay out of it.

29:49

Just let if people like it, let them

29:50

like it.

29:50

>> [clears throat]

29:51

>> Let people have their own opinions.

29:52

That's the best move. I don't have

29:53

anybody that does that.

29:55

>> I don't have any of that.

29:56

>> Do you post all your own stuff on

29:57

Instagram?

29:57

>> On Instagram, if I post it, it's from

29:59

me.

30:00

>> Really?

30:00

>> Yeah. Always. Yeah. And then there's the

30:03

Joe Rogan Experience page that the staff

30:05

does, but that is just a clip from the

30:08

podcast. They take an interesting clip

30:09

where someone says something, it's put

30:11

up with no context. It just says, you

30:13

know, episode blah blah blah. That's it.

30:16

I try to do it as like natural and

30:18

neutral. If you like it, you don't like

30:20

it. If you don't like it, don't listen

30:21

to the next one. It's okay.

30:23

>> So, wait, what what is your what is the

30:25

impetus for you to post something like

30:28

like when at what point do you decide to

30:30

share your life?

30:31

>> Well, I just feel like if there's

30:34

something I think someone will think is

30:36

interesting or something that I would

30:37

like to see, if someone puts it on their

30:39

feed, I'll put it in there every night.

30:41

But I don't post that much because I

30:42

don't read that much. I stay off.

30:45

>> I don't think it's good for you. I think

30:46

it's not only do I not think it's good

30:48

for you, I think it's genuinely bad for

30:49

you.

30:50

>> And uh it gets in the way of all the

30:53

other stuff that I like to do. Um you

30:54

know, I'm busy, man. I'm busy. Um

30:57

there's a lot of interesting [ __ ] to pay

30:59

attention to in the world. I'm not one

31:00

of those things. I don't like paying

31:02

attention to me, you know, and reading

31:04

me or and I don't want to like go online

31:06

and see too many car crashes and people

31:09

getting shot and animal attacks. I get

31:11

Tommy and I have the worst [ __ ] text

31:14

message chain. he him and I all day

31:16

whenever he finds something like

31:18

unbelievably horrific, some guy getting

31:20

run over by a truck, he'll just send it

31:21

to me and then I'll send it to him and

31:23

we're always trying to one up each

31:24

other. So when I find something

31:26

absolutely horrible, someone says me

31:28

something absolutely horrible, I send it

31:29

to him and then we just that's like my

31:32

main source of like trauma online is my

31:35

Tom Seagora text message chain.

31:38

But other than that, I pretty much stay

31:40

off. I don't think it's good for you and

31:43

I I feel way better. I started doing it

31:45

a few months ago. It's like like a force

31:47

of habit. Like I'm looking at it all the

31:50

time. Let me just not look at it today.

31:51

And and then I did it another day and

31:53

another day. I'm like, "God, I feel

31:54

better. I feel better." Like I genuinely

31:56

feel better. It's like I'm getting over

31:58

a cold or something like that. And so I

32:00

said, "All right, well obviously like

32:03

engaging. Definitely don't read

32:04

anything. Like definitely don't like

32:06

read when people say things about you.

32:09

Definitely don't read when you you post

32:11

something. Read the comments. Don't do

32:12

any of that.

32:14

You know, people get wrapped up in it

32:16

and you realize like people are just

32:17

trying to take you down. There's so I

32:19

mean, not all of them. A lot of people

32:20

are supporting you, but it doesn't

32:22

matter if there's like 10 people that

32:24

love you and one person that hates you,

32:25

you're going to think about that one

32:26

person,

32:27

>> you know, which is nuts. But it's just

32:28

human nature.

32:29

>> It's crazy how that algorithm works is

32:31

that it's just like if the there's

32:33

someone in the front row that's not

32:34

laughing. Like last night, I had a

32:37

I don't know, it was the bottom of the

32:38

barrel and I don't know how rape came

32:40

up, but

32:42

>> it always does. And I was like, "Well,

32:43

there's no phones in here unless let's

32:45

go." I if I'm going to go for it, it's

32:46

in this room,

32:47

>> right?

32:47

>> And uh there was a woman that did not

32:49

like it. And she was a little vocal and

32:52

the crow, you know, the bouncer like,

32:53

"Yo, you know, let him, you know, was

32:55

working this out or whatever." And then

32:57

she's like, "I was told to shut up." And

32:58

then in the rest of the night, I'm

33:00

watching her out of the corner of my eye

33:02

going, "God damn it." And then I just

33:04

dug holes and holes and holes and and at

33:07

one point the whole audience is chanting

33:09

rape. And I'm like,

33:10

>> I'm like, "Guys, this is bad." But but

33:12

it's but it's it's uh it's funny. And

33:15

then also it's like listen, say you're

33:17

some [ __ ] dude looking for a

33:18

connection in life and you go to my page

33:21

and you leave a hundred comments and

33:23

they're like, [snorts] "You're the best

33:24

bird. I love you. When you come to

33:25

Cincinnati, I'm I'm going to be here.

33:26

Tampa, I'll be there, man. I'm going to

33:28

drive." And then the one time he's like,

33:29

"You're a [ __ ] bitch." And then I

33:31

reply. He's like, "Oh, I guess that's

33:32

how I get the cat to come outside." You

33:34

know?

33:35

>> So that's why I don't read I don't read

33:37

any comments.

33:38

>> Whitney was going into, you know, the

33:39

Whitney thing about Miss Rachel. I

33:41

didn't know who Miss Rachel is.

33:42

>> I found out who she is today. 1.8

33:45

billion views on how to say mom and dad.

33:49

And I was like, it makes sense, man.

33:52

>> Well, she's she's a an educator for

33:55

neurode divergent kids. Is that what it

33:57

is?

33:58

>> Yeah. I watched a couple of videos.

34:01

Pull up some videos of Miss Rachel

34:03

because after people were dra by the

34:05

way, the worst [ __ ] people were going

34:08

after her. people that I know that are

34:10

comedians that are just unbelievably

34:12

shitty, dishonest, disingenuous human

34:16

beings, bad faith communicators, people

34:19

that just like completely distort

34:21

anything about the person. Yeah.

34:23

>> And it's just because she's successful.

34:25

It's it's a giant part of it. And so

34:27

they see her making some crack about

34:30

Miss Rachel because she was watching it

34:32

with her kid. She didn't know what the

34:33

[ __ ] it is. So here's Miss Rachel. Let

34:35

me let me hear what this sounds like.

34:37

letters and two really special guests.

34:40

>> No,

34:43

>> no, not at all.

34:44

>> Dinosaurs.

34:45

>> I don't hear I don't hear anything in my

34:46

own microphone.

34:47

>> Can you help me count them?

34:49

>> Do you hear it?

34:50

>> But I don't hear you, B. There we go.

34:53

There we go.

34:54

>> 2

34:55

3

34:57

4 Four must be the number of the day.

35:03

The dinosaur eggs are hatching.

35:07

Wow. How many dinosaurs do we have?

35:09

[music]

35:11

>> One, two,

35:14

three, four.

35:16

>> Okay, pause.

35:17

>> Why would you go after this?

35:19

>> Like, this is like a little kid show.

35:21

Like, she must have been bored.

35:22

>> There's nothing different from this

35:24

Blues Clues in my opinion.

35:25

>> It's It's a show for little kids. Yeah.

35:27

Like, I don't get it.

35:29

>> I don't know. Maybe she was just trying.

35:30

>> She was trying to write a joke and

35:32

thought she'd get some traction. I guess

35:33

>> maybe she took two instead of one

35:35

[laughter] and then

35:36

>> she got a little extra energy. SHE TOOK

35:38

TWO.

35:40

>> I don't know what she's doing.

35:43

>> All of a sudden she's like, "Fuck Miss

35:44

Rachel." [laughter]

35:45

>> She took

35:46

>> But then she started responding to

35:47

people because she didn't understand

35:49

what it was she said. And then she took

35:50

it down and apologized. But you

35:52

>> that you can't apologize to the mob.

35:54

They come for you. They come for you.

35:56

And she learned. And I I texted her. I

35:58

said, "Listen, I love you to death. You

35:59

got to stop going back and forth with

36:00

these people. You can't do that. It's

36:02

not they don't this is not a genuine

36:04

conversation. They don't care if you're

36:06

like if you were a person and you were

36:08

someone's friend and you started

36:10

[ __ ] on Miss Rachel and someone said

36:11

actually that's like for kids with

36:13

learning disorders and you'd be like oh

36:16

[ __ ] I didn't know and that would be the

36:18

end of it

36:18

>> and then we'd laugh, you know. But these

36:21

people are not looking for a real

36:23

conversation. They're just looking to

36:24

destroy your life.

36:25

>> And then so many people like she lost

36:27

her career, career's over. Like what?

36:29

What? But you weren't going to see her

36:31

anyway, you [ __ ] [ __ ] Like what are

36:33

you talking about? You weren't you

36:34

weren't going to pay to see her anyway.

36:36

Stop saying her career's over. It's not

36:39

doing a damn thing to her career. You

36:41

just want it to be over because you live

36:43

a miserable [ __ ] life, which is why

36:46

you're on Threads 12 hours a day.

36:49

>> It's so funny you say that. I just read

36:50

something negative about Whitney on

36:52

Threads today. I was like, what does she

36:53

do,

36:54

>> bro? Threads is the worst.

36:55

>> And then I saw the Miss Rachel [ __ ] and

36:56

I watched a video. I had two kids. I

37:00

don't know. I look at that as I go,

37:01

that's nice.

37:02

>> If threads is like for people who

37:03

already been like humiliated on Twitter

37:05

and they're trying to find a new crowd.

37:07

Yeah.

37:07

>> It's very weird. Very very like so much

37:11

negativity. Not that Twitter isn't like

37:13

Twitter's super negative, too.

37:14

>> I haven't been on X.

37:15

>> I try to look at the news only. I try to

37:18

look at news and things that people are

37:20

exposing that's in the news, which is

37:22

very interesting. Speaking of which,

37:23

what was that thing that you found? Uh,

37:26

>> so this is very strange. This is about

37:28

people being able to communicate in

37:30

lucid dreaming.

37:31

>> True. I guess we'll find out later. But

37:34

>> scientists report first ever

37:35

communication between two humans during

37:37

sleep.

37:38

>> I'd love this.

37:39

>> Scientists say that science fiction may

37:41

be coming closer to reality. According

37:42

to reports, California startup claims it

37:45

successfully enabled two-way

37:46

communication between people while they

37:48

were lucid dreaming. Participants were

37:51

asleep in separate locations while

37:53

researchers monitored their sleep and

37:55

transmitted a coded word designed to be

37:57

perceived inside a dream without waking

37:59

them. The system reportedly re relied on

38:02

sensors, wireless communication,

38:05

and specialized software to detect dream

38:07

states and relay the message. The

38:09

company's founder says that what once

38:11

sounded like science fiction could soon

38:12

become a daily a part of daily life. No

38:15

independent scient but they're not

38:16

saying what happened. No independent

38:18

scientific replication has confirmed the

38:20

results yet. Still, the experiment

38:21

builds on real research showing that

38:23

interaction between lucid dreams is

38:25

possible. Yeah, but what is the

38:26

interaction?

38:27

>> The coded word, I guess, was it?

38:29

>> Did they relay the coded word to each

38:31

other? They both got the coded word.

38:32

>> That's where I started getting known

38:33

until weird space. But I found out this

38:35

was posted on Instagram like yesterday

38:37

or something.

38:38

>> Uh I Googled it. Press release was from

38:41

2024.

38:43

>> Breakthrough between breakthrough from

38:45

space. First ever communication between

38:47

people in dreams. So this is the article

38:49

about it in business wire. Lucid dreams

38:52

occur. Blah blah blah. Participants are

38:54

sleeping in their homes. Brain waves and

38:57

other polyoms

38:59

somnographic data were tracked remotely.

39:02

Specially designed uh developed

39:04

apparatus. When the server detected the

39:06

first participant entered a lucid dream,

39:08

it generated a How do they detect that

39:10

someone's in a lucid dream? Because a

39:12

lucid dream is a dream where you're

39:13

aware that you're dreaming.

39:14

>> Yes. It generated a random Remo word and

39:18

sent it to him via earbuds. Earbuds

39:21

participant repeated the word in his

39:23

dream with his response captured and

39:25

stored on the server. What? Eight

39:29

minutes later, the next participate uh

39:31

participant entered a lucid dream. She

39:33

received the stored message from the

39:35

first participant and confirmed it upon

39:38

awakening.

39:39

Huh.

39:43

It sounds like it sounds like they're

39:44

saying it in the room and the person's

39:46

grabbing it.

39:47

>> No, it's they're sending it through

39:48

earbuds.

39:49

>> Yeah. They were both in their own houses

39:50

as it said at the time.

39:51

>> Yeah. So, they receive it through

39:53

earbuds. He says it in the dream and

39:56

then she receives it.

39:58

>> Oh.

39:59

>> Huh. Well, you got to wonder what is

40:02

happening in dreams. Dreams are very

40:04

bizarre.

40:04

>> Have you ever lucid dreamed?

40:05

>> Yeah. Yeah. Not s I mean I I've done it

40:08

a couple of times, but I haven't on

40:10

purpose. And I've always wondered why

40:11

not. Like why haven't I read books on

40:13

lucid dreams? Why haven't I tried to do

40:15

it?

40:16

>> I think it's something that just

40:17

happens.

40:18

>> No, you could actually do it. You could

40:19

there's there's guys that practice lucid

40:21

dreaming.

40:22

>> I I mean I lucid dream pretty

40:24

extensively. Yeah.

40:25

>> Like I've ever since when I remember

40:27

when you came out with Alpha Brain,

40:29

you're one of the first things you said

40:30

it would help with lucid dreaming.

40:32

>> Oh, if you take it before bed, it

40:34

definitely helps with lucid dreaming.

40:35

>> Yeah. And I remember saying I didn't

40:36

know what lucid dreaming was at the time

40:38

and then I found out I was lucid

40:40

dreaming. And I've I've lucid dreamed my

40:43

my whole life, but now that once I knew

40:46

what it was, I could stay in a dream and

40:48

decide and I could go back into dreams.

40:50

I could restart a dream that I just had,

40:52

go back to sleep and go, I'm going back

40:53

in. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

40:55

>> It sounds crazy and I know it sounds

40:56

like horseshit, but I never knew what it

40:58

was. I never knew what it was until

41:00

Alpha Brain. There's actual techniques

41:02

that people practice and apparently they

41:04

give classes and courses on how to do

41:06

lucid books written on it because

41:08

there's there's real techniques on how

41:10

to lucid dream. I just never I I don't

41:12

know why. Like I when I'm tired I just

41:16

want to go to sleep. I go hard all day

41:18

and when I crash I just crash. I don't

41:20

want to be [ __ ] around and

41:21

experimenting while I'm sleeping. I just

41:23

want to go to sleep.

41:24

>> My lucid dreams primarily are either

41:28

like I'm I I realize I'm dreaming. I go,

41:30

"I'm asleep. I'm dreaming. This isn't

41:31

real. Oh [ __ ] I'm in control." And then

41:34

and then a lot of times it has to do

41:35

with [ __ ] like [laughter]

41:38

I'm like, "Oh, I I don't have to put a

41:39

condom on. This is great. This [ __ ] I

41:41

can't I'm going to bang all these

41:42

[ __ ] chicks in this room." And then

41:44

one time I had a lucid dream where I was

41:45

like, I could I was I knew I was

41:48

dreaming. I was outside. I had to go up

41:49

these steps into like an old cottage and

41:51

like one of those old Hollywood cottages

41:53

and I was like, I could have [ __ ] I

41:54

could have sex with anyone I want. And

41:56

in my dream, I was like, "Oh, I'll pick

41:58

your wife. How cool is that?

41:59

>> [snorts]

42:00

>> And then I went to this cottage. I know.

42:02

I [ __ ] my wife. How cool is that?

42:03

>> I know. I could have [ __ ] her in real

42:04

life. And then but a lot of my dreams

42:06

back in the day when we when I first

42:08

started lucid dreaming, I would always

42:09

decide to fly.

42:10

>> And I remember I remember I had one

42:13

right after we the first time I ever

42:15

tried Alpha Brain. I had one and I and

42:18

it was I was doing a photo shoot on

42:21

Melrose and I was like, I don't want to

42:23

be here. And then I was like, wait, I'm

42:24

dreaming. This isn't real. I was like,

42:27

I'm going to fly home. And so I just

42:28

leapt up in the air, started flying over

42:30

Hollywood and then over the hills and

42:32

then I was like, "Wait, I have no idea.

42:33

I have no frame of reference for where I

42:35

am." I was like, "It's getting dark."

42:36

And I was like, "Where's the 101?" And

42:38

then in the dream, I was just started

42:40

kept flying. And then I wake up shortly

42:42

thereafter. But it's a lot of like a lot

42:45

of sex and a lot of flying. [laughter]

42:49

A lot of people breathe underwater in

42:50

their dreams.

42:51

>> Uh, never breathe underwater.

42:52

>> Yeah. They breathe underwater in their

42:54

dreams. They fly. Flying is like really

42:56

common. I used to have like crazy

42:58

[ __ ] dreams. Like wild. I sold a TV

43:01

show to Comedy Central about my dreams.

43:03

Like I've had dreams where I wake up

43:04

laughing. I've had dreams where I wake

43:06

up crying. Like I've I I have

43:09

>> such insane [ __ ] dreams, but And I

43:12

And no one ever wants to I No one ever

43:14

wants to hear I would have dream joke

43:16

dreams like real joke dreams. Like I had

43:18

a dream. This is a real dream I had

43:20

where I was on stage and I was in a

43:23

dance position like this and uh there's

43:26

a I know this sounds horshit is a real

43:28

dream and uh and the curtain's drawn and

43:31

I look around and I see I'm standing on

43:33

stage with four or five dudes that are

43:36

all in clan outfits and I'm like oh

43:38

[ __ ] And I look down and I realize I'm

43:39

in a clan outfit and I'm like

43:41

[ __ ] And I'm like, I got to get

43:43

out of off stage. And the curtains draw

43:45

back. And I hear, and it's an all black

43:47

people. And I hear the voice, the voice

43:50

of God, ladies and gentlemen, put your

43:53

hands together for the click, clack

43:55

clan. And we started tap dancing. And we

43:57

were so good that the black people got

43:58

to their feet and they started cheering.

44:00

And we're like, oh my god. And so yeah,

44:03

that was and that was a real dream. I

44:04

woke up and I wrote it down. I used to

44:05

write down all my dreams, voice text

44:07

them. I used to voice text them all. I'd

44:09

have dreams about you and and Stan Hope

44:11

and Ro and uh and Joey Diaz. Like I I it

44:14

was like my whole world. I used to think

44:16

to myself like I I dream about Shaq the

44:18

other day. I was like I wonder if Shaq

44:20

ever dreams about me.

44:21

>> I bet he doesn't.

44:22

>> I bet he doesn't. [laughter]

44:25

>> Who's the Who's the Who's someone you've

44:27

had a dream about recently?

44:29

>> I don't really have dreams too many

44:31

dreams about people. Not people that I

44:33

know.

44:33

>> What are your dreams about?

44:34

>> My dreams are weird, man.

44:36

>> Like let's dig into this. I had a dream

44:38

that I came on the podcast I had to talk

44:40

about because it was the absolute

44:42

strangest most realistic dream of my

44:44

life and it was a dream where I

44:47

encountered these beings that were not

44:51

human and it was insanely realistic.

44:54

They were very humanlike. I think there

44:57

was four of them. They were tall and

45:00

thin and they look kind of they didn't

45:02

look human. Their heads were too big.

45:04

Their eyes are too big. And I can't I

45:07

think they had teeth. I don't remember.

45:10

But I remember they were joking with me.

45:11

Like they scared me and they like ah

45:14

just [ __ ] around like trying to get

45:15

me comfortable with who they are. And

45:18

they were communicating with me somehow

45:21

or another through thoughts. And uh I

45:24

was really freaked out because they

45:26

seemed very very real. They didn't seem

45:30

like any other dream that I had. So much

45:32

so that I woke up at like 3:30 in the

45:35

morning and I just lay in bed for an

45:37

hour trying to go back to sleep and I

45:38

couldn't go back to sleep. I was almost

45:40

like I'm not sleep. I'm wide awake. And

45:42

so I went to the gym and uh I just

45:45

worked out at 4 in the morning and I

45:47

worked out for like 2 hours and after it

45:49

was over I got in the sauna, did the

45:51

whole thing and then I came to work. I

45:53

was like I have to talk about this right

45:55

away cuz it was so strange. It was one

45:57

of the only dreams that I've ever had

45:59

that did not feel at all like a dream.

46:02

It felt like I was encountering someone

46:05

or something that was trying to get me

46:07

comfortable with the idea of

46:09

encountering them.

46:11

>> It wasn't It wasn't like a dream. It was

46:15

I was in the corridor of something that

46:19

seemed uh like it was it was not like it

46:24

was from here. It was like from

46:26

somewhere else, but it was almost like

46:28

it was very oddly lit. Like the walls

46:30

were lit in a very strange way, but it

46:34

was almost like it was was this

46:35

corridor, but it had a feeling almost

46:37

like it was organic, like it was alive,

46:39

like it was a living thing. It was very

46:41

[ __ ] strange.

46:42

>> What if what if that was But what if

46:44

that is something that you did in fact

46:47

experience that was taken out of your

46:48

memory and then it's stuck in your

46:50

memory and you're dreaming about it?

46:51

>> I

46:53

don't know. I mean, you could maybe all

46:55

day long, right? And so my feeling was

46:59

that I had and this is again it clearly

47:02

could was I was dreaming, right? So it

47:06

clearly could have been just a dream,

47:07

but what it felt like was that it was an

47:10

actual encounter with intelligence that

47:13

wasn't human. That's what it felt like.

47:16

And it felt like these things were not

47:19

they were not us. And maybe they were

47:22

what a human will be someday because

47:26

they were humanlike, but they were very

47:28

slender. They were very thin. And they

47:30

were wearing these suits that were like

47:33

almost like rash guards like what

47:34

surfers wear, but but but a strange

47:38

fabric like it looked weird. And it was

47:41

the color of their skin, but it was

47:42

clear that they were wearing something.

47:44

It didn't appear that they had any

47:45

genitals. They had no muscle tone at

47:48

all. They were just thin. And they were

47:51

communicating with me and looking at me

47:53

and they were they were close like where

47:54

you are right now. And I think like I

47:56

said I think it was at least three of

47:58

them. I think there was four of them.

47:59

But I remember there was one that was

48:01

going like like Jo and then like ah

48:05

joking around with me like trying to

48:06

scare me and then like pret like and it

48:08

felt to me after they did it like relax

48:12

like this is okay like don't be freaked

48:15

out whatever this is. Don't be freaked

48:17

out. And then I woke up and when I woke

48:19

and then there was also this weird

48:20

reptilian element of it. There was like

48:22

a barrier. They had a barrier and they

48:24

were feeding like with they were like

48:26

pouring food to these things that almost

48:29

like was letting me know the the

48:32

protection between you and this horrific

48:35

danger that's out there in

48:38

[clears throat] the world, in the

48:39

universe, in life is very it's very

48:42

thin. There's very thin protection.

48:44

There's not much protection. It was just

48:46

a like a like a barrier, like a a simple

48:48

barrier, like a you know, like a a

48:51

[ __ ] a blockade they put to keep a

48:53

crowd from passing through an area to

48:56

let you know you're not supposed to go

48:57

here.

48:57

>> It's crazy how it's crazy how much you

49:00

How long ago did you have this dream?

49:01

>> A few months ago,

49:02

>> but isn't it so wild that something that

49:04

didn't happen

49:06

>> Yeah.

49:06

>> can be locked in your memory and then

49:08

you just you're like, God, it affects

49:10

you almost like it did. Well, now it's

49:12

like a memory of my recollection of the

49:15

memory, which is odd, which is memories

49:18

in general, which is why people distort

49:20

memories and change them and make, you

49:22

know, make the past something that's not

49:23

real. You know, you've talked to people

49:24

that Yeah.

49:26

>> Yeah.

49:26

>> Yeah. We all do it.

49:27

>> I do it on podcasts.

49:28

>> Yeah. Everybody does it. But this was

49:31

different. This whatever this dream was.

49:33

I mean, look, there's a lot of

49:37

confusion about what happens during

49:39

sleep. you know, we don't exactly know

49:42

why you have dreams and what it's all

49:44

what what's the function of it, what's

49:46

the purpose of it. But this one was

49:49

different. It was much more realistic

49:51

than any dream I had ever experienced

49:53

before. Like the the interaction between

49:57

me and these these creatures, these

50:00

beings was very different than anything

50:02

I'd ever experienced in a dream. The

50:04

point like I I felt it physically and I

50:08

woke up. I can sleep on a bag of rocks.

50:11

I can just go to sleep, dude. I have my

50:14

It drives my wife crazy because she

50:16

struggles to sleep and I if we got on a

50:18

plane, I just I [snorts] just [ __ ] out

50:20

cuz I'm always going. So like when it's

50:22

time when it's downtime, I don't have a

50:25

problem sleeping, dog. I can go to

50:26

sleep. I'll sleep on a roof. I can

50:28

sleep. I couldn't go back to sleep,

50:30

which is really weird for me. I mean, I

50:32

was wide awake at 4 in the morning, you

50:36

know, and I'm like, "Okay, I'm I'm going

50:39

to the gym because I I laid in bed for a

50:41

whole hour trying to go back to sleep."

50:43

So, it's just a dream. Just go to sleep.

50:45

I'm like, "Dude, just get up. You're not

50:46

going to sleep." And I'm like, "All

50:48

right, well, I'm up. I'll just go work

50:50

out. Like, maybe that'll help me go to

50:51

sleep." Nope. I was wide awake. Wide

50:55

awake. I I wasn't even Most of the time

50:57

when I'm working out, I'm either

50:58

watching music or watching fights on TV.

51:00

I didn't even do that. I was just by

51:02

myself in silence trying to make sense

51:04

of it. Just doing chin-ups and dips and

51:07

trying to make sense of whatever the

51:08

[ __ ] that was cuz it just didn't seem

51:11

like a dream. It felt so real. It felt

51:15

so real. And when I've talked to like my

51:17

UFO friends like like Jesse Michaels is

51:20

like really into UFOs. He's like, "I

51:22

think you had a real encounter." I'm

51:23

like, "I don't know." You know, I don't

51:25

know what it was, but it certainly felt

51:27

like a real encounter, whatever it was.

51:29

Do you listen to anything while you

51:30

sleep or you sleep in the silence? Oh, I

51:32

listen to podcast so I'll have drinks

51:33

>> while you're sleeping.

51:34

>> Always.

51:35

>> That's so ridiculous.

51:36

>> I listen to

51:36

>> That's so unhealthy.

51:37

>> I listen to a podcast about Rasputin

51:39

last night. [laughter]

51:40

>> I listen You

51:41

>> ever see his dick? They have his dick

51:42

pickled in a jar.

51:43

>> Are you sering

51:47

chicks?

51:47

>> Are you sure?

51:48

>> I don't know.

51:49

>> I think he was fine.

51:49

>> It's not It's not in the

51:50

>> the giant hog like that. I think he's

51:52

put it to use. Find Rasputin's hog.

51:54

>> But he was That's what he did. I would

51:56

love to see his dick.

51:57

>> You'll see it. That's look at the size

52:00

of that hog.

52:01

>> By the way, that's limp and dead.

52:04

Imagine what that thing looked like when

52:05

it was hard. Look at that. Look on that

52:07

guy's face. Look at the size of this

52:09

coke. Look at this coke. Big old [ __ ]

52:13

pickled.

52:13

>> That's a big dick.

52:14

>> And I mean, like again, this is like a

52:18

dead man's dick. So there's no blood in

52:20

it at all. You imagine what that thing

52:22

was like hard. Big old Russian dick.

52:26

>> Big old axe handle. Thank god that

52:28

wasn't my dream.

52:29

>> So he was, you know, he was like, what

52:32

does it say? Rasputin's alleged genitals

52:34

was sold in 2000 for $8,000. Still

52:37

surrounded by mystery with some experts

52:39

believing it might actually belong to a

52:40

bull. Shut up.

52:42

>> They had a hard time killing him.

52:44

>> Yeah, they try to poison him, right?

52:46

>> And they shoot him at the end and then

52:47

throw him in the [ __ ] river.

52:48

>> Well, Russians are different white

52:50

people.

52:51

>> Ah, that's the joke I missed last night.

52:53

>> What? There was in the bottom of the

52:54

barrel they were like uh Trump versus

52:56

Putin and I was like and I was thinking

52:58

about Rasputin but I was thinking but I

53:00

was like Trump Russians are hard to kill

53:02

and then I just went on to [ __ ]

53:05

>> what what was this thing he was like a

53:07

spiritual advisor.

53:09

>> Oh Joe that's a great topic. I'll tell

53:11

you everything you know.

53:11

>> Yeah he was a self-described holy man

53:14

>> and he was from 1869 to 1966.

53:17

>> He was from Siberia. Uh so he gained

53:19

significant influence with Zar Nicholas

53:21

II after 1905 rapidly earning the trust

53:24

of both Nicholas himself and his wife

53:26

Alexandra. He became a healer in quotes

53:28

for their hemophiliac son Alexi. What

53:31

what was happening was Alexi was getting

53:33

given aspirin by the doctors and

53:36

Rasputin came in and was like yo get the

53:38

doctors away from him and he was a

53:39

hemophiliac. He had internal bleeding.

53:41

And when they removed the aspirin, which

53:42

is a blood thinner, he the kid started

53:44

to heal. And so the Zarina said, "He's

53:49

magic." Even like at one point the kid

53:51

was going to die and he wrote a letter

53:52

and he said, "Leave, tell the your kid's

53:54

going to be fine. I had a dream about

53:55

it, but get the doctors out of there."

53:57

And the doctors were always giving him

53:59

aspirin and that was what was injuring

54:00

the kid. They're all all the royalty at

54:03

that time were hemophiliacs.

54:04

>> What?

54:05

>> Yeah. Because of the inbreeding. That's

54:07

why they didn't have chins. They had

54:08

long noses and they were all

54:09

hemophiliacs.

54:10

>> Oh god.

54:11

>> And so uh but what's crazy is the

54:14

Russian so she loved Rasputin and would

54:17

write letters to Rasputin that kind of

54:19

sound a little sketchy but then all of

54:22

the all of Russia started thinking this

54:24

healer has an end to the Zar and the

54:26

Zarina. So all of a sudden this healer

54:29

is running the country. What they didn't

54:30

know they couldn't tell anyone no our

54:32

kid's a [ __ ] hemophiliac. They

54:34

couldn't tell anyone that because then

54:35

they looked weak. Oh,

54:37

>> and so, so in a weird way, Rasputin got

54:40

kind of thrown to the wolves cuz they

54:42

couldn't tell him why we why they needed

54:44

him. That she wasn't [ __ ] him. That

54:46

their marriage was intact.

54:48

>> How do you know she wasn't [ __ ] him

54:49

with that big old giant dick? That

54:50

probably the guy was laying pipe.

54:51

>> He might have been.

54:52

>> He probably was.

54:53

>> She wrote a letter that says like, "Kiss

54:54

your like she wrote a letter and

54:56

translation was like, kiss your cheek

54:58

gently."

54:59

>> Oh, yes.

54:59

>> Some [ __ ] Yeah,

55:00

>> he [ __ ] her.

55:01

>> There was It was Katherine the Great

55:02

that [ __ ] a horse.

55:03

>> I heard about that. Yeah.

55:04

>> Didn't she die [ __ ] a horse? I think

55:06

so. I went to that barn in Russ when I

55:08

was in Russia. We went to that barn.

55:10

>> If you you imbreeded, you know, multiple

55:13

generations in a row and then give them

55:15

ultimate power. They're going to start

55:16

[ __ ] horses.

55:18

>> I mean, what what kind of life is that?

55:20

What kind [snorts] of weird world is

55:21

that? You're born royal.

55:23

>> It's insane.

55:24

>> You know what I'm watching again?

55:25

>> What?

55:26

>> Game of Thrones. Started it all from the

55:28

beginning.

55:29

>> Are you serious?

55:29

>> [ __ ] amazing. We're on season two

55:31

now.

55:31

>> You Wait, your family?

55:32

>> Yeah. Me and my wife. It's so good,

55:35

dude. We did it with the girls on

55:36

vacation,

55:37

>> bro. Whoever that dude is that played

55:39

Joffrey, that guy should get all the

55:41

awards.

55:42

>> Yeah,

55:42

>> he's so good. His transition from being

55:46

a like a shitty kid to an evil king is

55:49

[ __ ] amazing. It's a He the way he

55:52

plays Joffrey is [ __ ] incredible.

55:55

>> Yeah.

55:55

>> I forgot how good that show is. It's one

55:58

of the greatest shows of all time.

56:00

>> But you'll never you'll never see him as

56:02

anything other than Joffrey.

56:04

>> Problem. Yeah, that's a problem for a

56:06

lot of people that have like significant

56:08

like Kramer like you know like

56:10

>> two things.

56:11

>> A couple things. This is the other

56:12

thing. Do you know he wrote a book and

56:14

didn't mention that in the book?

56:15

>> Really?

56:16

>> Yeah.

56:16

>> That's interesting.

56:17

>> Yeah. Somebody read the book. One one of

56:18

the comics read the book. He's like I'm

56:20

waiting for that to come up. He goes he

56:21

never [ __ ] brings it up.

56:23

>> What's the What's the title? A tell all

56:25

book except for one thing.

56:27

>> Except [laughter] for the [ __ ]

56:28

biggest thing that's ever happened.

56:29

>> Biggest thing that ever happened in my

56:30

life.

56:30

>> Not only that, it was the first

56:32

cancellation. The first public

56:34

cancellation.

56:35

>> Was that really the first cancellation?

56:36

>> Oh, yeah. Through viral video. The first

56:38

public cancellation through viral video

56:41

>> because I I remember that night because

56:45

uh I think I was at the improv and then

56:47

I came over to the store.

56:48

>> I do remember that night

56:49

>> and Brett Ernst was at the store. He had

56:52

just come over from the Laugh Factory.

56:54

He goes, "Bro," he goes, "I was just at

56:56

the Laugh Factory." He goes, "Kramer was

56:58

off the rails." He goes, he went nuts.

57:00

He got heckled. He start yelling the

57:02

n-word at these [ __ ] people in the

57:03

audience. I GO, "NO." HE GOES, "DUDE, it

57:06

was [ __ ] crazy." He goes, "He was

57:08

bombing and they were heckling him." And

57:10

then he starts dropping end bombs. I'm

57:11

like, "No way." He goes, "Yeah, I don't

57:13

know what the [ __ ] he was on, but he he

57:15

did a set at the store. He seemed a

57:17

little a little speedy, a little, you

57:20

know, a little elevated." And then left

57:23

the store, bombed the store, and went

57:24

over to the Laugh Factory. And that was

57:26

that night

57:27

>> he did uh he was at the improv the

57:29

weekend before and I was there and he

57:31

was he was doing stand up but he was

57:33

doing a a version of Kramer a version of

57:38

like crazy and he fell on a glass

57:41

>> and broke the glass and cut him and but

57:43

everyone laughed and I think everyone's

57:45

like I think he's bleeding

57:46

>> but it was like really off. Well, he was

57:48

doing really off stuff from the jump.

57:50

Like [snorts] he came to the store. I

57:52

think he just decided to start doing

57:54

standup because Seinfeld had been

57:56

cancelled for a long time. Want to start

57:57

doing something again. And he started

57:58

doing stand up, but he didn't have any

58:00

material. He would just kind of fall

58:01

down. It was weird. He would like

58:03

pretend that something went wrong and

58:05

like try to do the mic stand and slip

58:08

and fall. It was very odd. Which is also

58:11

my theory that I've been telling

58:13

everybody about Chevy Chase.

58:15

>> Okay. I'd love to hear that. So

58:17

everybody is talking about what a

58:19

terrible person Chevy Chase is and you

58:21

know there's all these videos that come

58:22

out of him screaming at people and being

58:25

mean and you know

58:26

>> I saw one with Bill Murray, Rodney

58:27

Dangerfield and him

58:29

>> where it's like back right when they're

58:30

promoting Catty Shack and he just yells

58:32

at some other guy right some other guy

58:34

that's on the set

58:35

>> and this is my take on it.

58:38

>> I want you to pull up the

58:41

like a compilation of Chevy Chase's

58:44

Pratt falls. Okay, Chevy Chase has to be

58:49

in constant pain. Has to be. He has to

58:52

be in constant pain and almost 100% has

58:55

CTE. Chevy Chase used to throw himself

59:00

down flights of stairs. He used to throw

59:02

himself off the stage into chairs and

59:05

tables. He used to like slip, go flying

59:09

through the air, land on his head. The

59:11

most

59:13

ridiculous Pratt falls. the most

59:15

aggressive violent Pratt falls you've

59:18

ever seen. And he did this for years.

59:21

Yeah. For years. Like he was in a car

59:23

crash multiple times a week for years.

59:26

>> Wow.

59:27

>> Yeah. I mean, maybe he had a shitty

59:29

personality already.

59:30

>> Well, I think he was he was also that

59:32

first generation of what fame is. Like

59:34

he was the most famous person to ever

59:36

come off SNL ever. Like his walking off

59:39

SNL was like,

59:40

>> "Get ready for a movie star." And I

59:41

don't think I don't think we'll ever I I

59:43

won't ever understand the level of fame

59:46

he had

59:47

>> at the time.

59:48

>> Like like his fame was like and this is

59:51

also I mean like look I love Bert

59:52

Reynolds

59:53

>> but but Steve Martin was super famous

59:55

too and he's not a [ __ ] No.

59:56

>> You know what I mean? It's like I don't

59:57

think that's it. I want to I want you to

59:59

see these videos.

60:00

>> I don't know why I can't find a

60:01

compilation. I can find a bunch of

60:03

videos of it but

60:04

>> just you I know there's a compilation

60:06

because I've seen it. I just typed it in

60:07

and the video that pops up only has it's

60:09

a 4-minute video of him on Johnny

60:11

Carson.

60:12

>> No, I'm just I know

60:14

>> I'm telling you there's

60:15

>> there's a bunch

60:17

there's a bunch.

60:18

>> Gerald Ford that was Gerald Ford fell,

60:21

right?

60:22

>> So he would Yeah, cuz Gerald Gerald Ford

60:24

was kind of like Biden. He would fall a

60:26

time. So here is

60:27

>> worst, dude.

60:29

>> Look at that. You know how hard he falls

60:32

there? Look, go back and watch that

60:33

again. Watch. Watch how hard he falls

60:35

when he does this. This is him doing

60:37

this Christmas.

60:39

>> What happened?

60:40

>> I lost it.

60:42

>> The Christmas thing that you just

60:43

showed.

60:44

>> I I'm telling you, it just accidentally

60:46

disappeared.

60:47

>> Joe,

60:48

>> you could find it.

60:50

>> There it is.

60:51

>> Okay, watch this. Watch this. Watch him

60:53

fall. Boom. Head first with the tree.

60:58

Falls down. Barely stops his fall.

61:04

Chvy Chase worst wrestling moments from

61:06

Saturday Night Live. Like this is just

61:09

this is him just stumbling around. This

61:11

is nothing. But there's videos of him

61:14

>> therapy session.

61:16

>> Okay. Obviously that chair is going to

61:18

break. [cheering]

61:24

No, this is not what I'm looking for.

61:25

See if you can find it. Find it and get

61:27

back to us. But there's I know there's

61:30

videos of him like literally like flying

61:33

off stage, landing on his back,

61:35

slipping, legs up in the air, landing on

61:37

a ladder.

61:38

>> Yeah.

61:38

>> I I fell I had to fall off a ladder for

61:40

a TV show one time. They're like, "We

61:41

need you to fall." And they had a a

61:43

crash pad.

61:44

>> It you get four steps up a ladder,

61:46

you're high as [ __ ]

61:47

>> Well, even if you have a crash pad, your

61:49

head is wobbling around, right? So your

61:52

brain is sloshing around from the

61:54

impact. This is one of the things that

61:56

people don't realize. Like football

61:57

players get brain damage from getting

61:59

hit in the chest. So CTE you can get

62:03

from riding a jet ski, from bouncing on

62:06

the waves. It's your brain walking,

62:09

[ __ ] bouncing around off the walls of

62:11

your skull,

62:12

>> from roller coasters.

62:13

>> You can get it from everything. You can

62:14

get it from a lot of things. Repeated

62:17

subconcussive trauma. But he fell and

62:20

landed on his [ __ ] head. Yeah. And if

62:22

you find the video that's a compilation,

62:24

there's a compilation of people like the

62:26

worst falls of Chevy Chase. And it's

62:28

crazy. And he did this for years. That

62:32

was his thing. Slip and fall. Slip and

62:34

fall. Slip and fall.

62:35

>> And tons of coke.

62:37

>> All those things. So slip and fall.

62:39

Allegedly. Tons of coke.

62:40

>> Allegedly.

62:41

>> Allegedly. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

62:43

>> I've read some books.

62:44

>> Yeah. But that the book on do you know

62:46

what happened when Bill Murray was here?

62:48

When he was talking

62:49

>> Are you talking about Bill? I love that

62:50

book. So when he read Wired, he read So

62:54

the guy who wrote Wired was Bob

62:56

Woodward. Bob Woodward was the guy that

62:58

was involved in Watergate. He was the

63:00

naval intelligence officer who became a

63:03

journalist and his first ever assignment

63:06

was to take down the president, which is

63:08

very suspicious. Like Tucker Carlson

63:10

told me the whole story behind it. I was

63:12

like, "What?" The people that were break

63:14

that broke in were all FBI. The whole

63:16

thing was a setup. It was to set Nixon

63:18

up and they had already gotten rid of

63:20

Spiro Agnu who was his VP. They got him

63:22

on I think corruption charges. I forget

63:24

what it was.

63:25

>> Didn't Kennedy put the the bug system in

63:28

there? Wasn't the It was the president

63:30

before that put the put the wire the

63:32

wiring in the inside the room, right?

63:35

>> What room

63:36

>> in Watergate? Didn't was didn't

63:38

>> No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, it was a

63:41

setup. Nixon was not involved in the

63:43

setup, but they told him about what

63:45

happened and then he was involved in the

63:47

cover up. That's how they got him. Okay.

63:49

That's how they got him and that's how

63:50

he got removed from office.

63:51

>> And the recordings were from his office,

63:53

right?

63:53

>> The recordings were from the Democratic

63:55

party. So he was recording the

63:57

Democratic Party. He was recording he

63:59

was secretly recording the opposition

64:02

party, but he didn't do it. So the FBI

64:05

did it and then they brought it to him

64:08

knowing that he would cover it up and

64:09

that's where he committed the crime.

64:11

like instead of coming out and saying,

64:12

"Hey, some people have uh recorded these

64:16

people." Even if he did that, they would

64:18

have said he was involved. But the the

64:20

whole thing was to get him out of

64:21

office. The reason why they wanted to

64:23

get him out of office because he was

64:24

publicly and privately stating, at least

64:27

amongst other people that were in the

64:29

White House and that he knew who killed

64:31

JFK and he was going to get to the

64:32

bottom of it because look, JFK had just

64:34

been killed. He ran against JFK in six

64:37

in 1960 or ' 62. 62. What year was it?

64:42

Either way, I think it was 60. He ran

64:45

against JFK and then JFK gets

64:47

assassinated and now he's the president.

64:49

And when he's the president, he was

64:51

publicly stating or privately stating to

64:53

different people like he was going to

64:55

get to the bottom of it. And he knew who

64:57

killed JFK. He was like in investigating

64:59

it. He was interested in it obviously

65:01

because he was worried they were going

65:02

to kill him. And so then they set him up

65:03

and they removed him from office and

65:05

they put Gerald Ford in as his VP.

65:07

Gerald Ford was also on the Warren

65:09

Commission. Like the whole thing was a

65:12

giant setup to get rid of the most

65:13

popular president in the history of the

65:16

country, you know, and everybody's like,

65:17

"Oh, Nixon's a crook. Nixon's a I'm not

65:19

a crook." That was all like his gigantic

65:23

propaganda PR campaign to remove Nixon

65:26

from office. It was all a deep state

65:28

operation.

65:29

>> Wow.

65:30

>> Nixon won the presidency like the widest

65:32

margin of anybody in history. He was the

65:34

most popular president in history. And

65:36

in today's days, we think of Nixon as

65:38

being a crook and a scumbag, but he

65:40

didn't even do it. He was just involved

65:42

in the cover up when they brought it to

65:44

him.

65:45

>> Was like, what is he going to do? He's

65:46

running for president again to

65:48

re-election and they're saying, you

65:50

know, hey, these guys, they busted these

65:52

guys recording things like cover it up,

65:54

cover it up, cover it up. And so that's

65:56

how they got him.

65:58

>> And what was his post presidency like?

65:59

>> So, what do you mean? Let me finish.

66:00

Sorry. So, uh, before I go any further,

66:02

so Bill Murray is here and he said he

66:06

read the first couple pages of Wired

66:08

>> and he goes he put it down. He goes, "Oh

66:10

my god, they framed Nixon." That was the

66:13

first thing that he said.

66:16

He said because the version that Bob

66:18

Woodward told of John Belalushi, his

66:21

very good friend, was so wildly off. He

66:24

goes, "That time where John did that

66:26

speedball and died was probably the only

66:29

time where he ever did that." He goes,

66:30

"He was a total lightweight. He would

66:32

have a couple of drinks and he'd be

66:33

drunk. He wasn't a guy who did drugs all

66:35

the time." He goes, "It was all

66:37

bullshit."

66:37

>> Are you serious?

66:38

>> Yes.

66:39

>> Yes.

66:39

>> Do you realize like guys like Chris

66:40

Farley literally idolized John Belalushi

66:44

because of books like Wired?

66:45

>> Exactly. Exactly. And Well, the

66:48

difference is Chris Farley really was

66:49

doing drugs

66:50

>> myself. I idolized John Belalushi. I

66:52

read Wired when I was in college and was

66:54

like, "Dude, this is I mean, there's so

66:57

many aspects of my personality that I

66:59

draw from a book like that of like the

67:02

way he was comfortable in an agent's

67:04

office and and B12 shots I get because

67:06

of John Blushi."

67:07

>> Well, I'm sure he did all those things

67:09

and I'm sure he partied, but like the

67:11

version this this exaggerated version of

67:14

just being completely out of control on

67:17

drugs was fake. And this is according to

67:20

Bill Murray who was best friends with

67:22

him. He's like, "It's not true." It's

67:23

like if somebody tried to write

67:25

something about you and I read it and I

67:26

was like, "This is not Bird at all." So

67:29

his initial thought was, "Oh my god,

67:32

they framed Nixon."

67:34

>> Jesus Christ.

67:35

>> And they did. They did frame Nixon. See

67:38

if you can find the video of Tucker

67:40

Carlson explaining to me how they frame

67:43

Nixon.

67:43

>> I have a copy of Wired in my tour bus.

67:45

>> Yeah. Don't read it.

67:46

>> I'm going to get rid of it. Bob Bob

67:48

Woodward was an intelligence agent 100%.

67:50

He was naval intelligence and then he

67:52

left from that which he never really

67:54

leave and then he became a reporter for

67:57

the Washington Post

67:59

>> and his first job was Watergate

68:00

>> which is nonsense.

68:01

>> That's a [ __ ] insane.

68:02

>> There's no way you would a senior

68:03

reporter would be covering the most

68:05

important story. You wouldn't give it to

68:06

a rookie whose first assignment

68:10

>> that's and what about what's Bernstein?

68:12

What about him?

68:13

>> I don't know

68:13

>> cuz didn't they write it together?

68:15

>> Yeah, they did. I mean, I don't

68:16

>> And Deep Throat was their Did we ever

68:18

find out who Deep Throat was?

68:19

>> Yeah. Listen to this, though.

68:20

>> This is seven minutes long and watch the

68:21

whole thing.

68:22

>> Let's listen to some of it because it's

68:23

interesting.

68:24

>> That's what it is. It's their tool and

68:27

they're perfectly aware of that. I mean,

68:29

I used to write for the New York Times

68:31

as a freelancer. I mean, I've been

68:32

around the New York Times a lot. And

68:34

there uh yeah, there are a lot of really

68:35

smart people there for sure. Even now, I

68:38

would less so now, but there's still, I

68:39

think, smart people there. There are I

68:41

know some and they know but they think

68:45

that that you know it's worth it because

68:46

they're bringing information or I don't

68:48

know what they think actually

68:50

>> but no they're they're tools

68:52

of power and that's like the one thing

68:54

that you're not allowed to be even if

68:56

you think the power is good like maybe

68:57

they all support the agenda of the US

68:59

government destabilizing the world and

69:01

impoverishing their own population maybe

69:03

they're on board with that

69:05

even if they are they shouldn't do it

69:07

because the job of the media the

69:10

is to keep power in check. You are kind

69:15

of like the seat belt, right? You know,

69:19

you make sure that

69:21

things don't go too far. So, um, and

69:24

they're not doing that. They're acting

69:25

as a willing handmaidaiden.

69:27

>> When do you think that switched?

69:29

>> I think it's been the case for a long

69:30

time. I mean, if you look at what

69:31

happened to Richard Nixon, which I of

69:33

course did not understand at all, um

69:36

Richard Nixon was taken out by the FBI

69:38

and CIA and um with the help of Bob Bob

69:43

Woodward, who was a Washington Post

69:44

reporter who had been a naval

69:46

intelligence officer working in the

69:49

White House, working in the Nixon White

69:51

House. And then he shows up like a year

69:56

later and he's this brand new reporter,

69:59

never been a journalist at all. He's a

70:00

naval intel officer, the famous Bob

70:03

Woodward we all rever,

70:05

and he's at the Washington Post, and

70:07

somehow he gets the biggest story in the

70:09

history of the Washington Post. He's the

70:11

lead guy in that story. Well, I I worked

70:13

at a newspaper. I've been in the news

70:14

business my whole life. That is not how

70:16

it works. You don't take a kid like his

70:18

first day from a totally unrelated

70:20

business and put him on the biggest

70:22

story. But he was he was that guy. And

70:25

who is his main source for Watergate?

70:27

Oh, the number two guy at the FBI.

70:30

Oh, so you have the naval intelligence

70:32

officer working with the FBI official to

70:36

destroy the president. Okay, so that's a

70:39

deep state coup. What else? How would

70:41

you describe that? If that happened in

70:42

Guatemala, what would you say? And yet

70:45

the way it was framed and the way that I

70:46

accepted for decades was, oh, this

70:49

intrepid reporter fought power. No, no,

70:51

no. This intrepid reporter, Bob

70:53

Woodward, was a tool of power, secret

70:56

power, which is the most threatening

70:57

kind, to bounce the single most popular

71:01

president in American history, Richard

71:03

Nixon, from office before the end of his

71:05

term, and replace him with who? Oh,

71:08

Gerald Ford, who sat on the Warren

71:10

Commission. Now, how did Gerald Ford get

71:12

to be Richard Nixon's vice president?

71:14

Well, because Carl Albert, the Democrat

71:18

speaker of the house, told him, "You

71:19

must choose him. We will only confirm

71:21

him when they sent the actual elected

71:24

vice president away for tax evasion.

71:27

Spiro Agnu of Maryland. So you have a

71:30

complete setup like an abs Gerald Ford

71:33

the only unelected president in American

71:34

history actually sat on the Warren

71:36

Commission. Something else that I

71:38

accepted at face value until I looked at

71:39

it and I was like that's completely

71:41

insane. You didn't want to interview

71:42

Jack Ruby in your investigation the

71:44

assassination? Okay, you're fake. Yeah,

71:47

he was on the Warren Commission. And so,

71:50

uh, sorry for the long story, but the

71:51

point is like that that happened in

71:53

front of all of us, but the way it was

71:55

framed cloaked the obvious reality of

71:58

it. The people who broke into the

71:59

Watergate office building from which the

72:01

name is taken, Watergate

72:04

was, I think it was six of them or seven

72:05

of them, all but one was a CIA employee.

72:09

That that's real. It's like, look it up

72:11

on Google. So the whole thing, Richard

72:14

Nixon was elected by more votes than any

72:18

president in American history in the

72:20

1972 election. He was the most popular

72:23

by votes, which is the only way we can

72:24

really measure popularity. The most

72:26

popular president

72:28

in his re-election campaign and two

72:29

years later, he's gone. Undone by a

72:32

naval intel officer, the number two guy

72:34

at the FBI, and a bunch of CIA

72:36

employees. You tell me what that is.

72:39

Those are the facts. Those are not

72:41

disputed facts. That's not crackpot

72:42

[ __ ] That's just look it up.

72:45

>> So why did they want to get rid of

72:46

Nixon?

72:49

>> Um, you know, there are a lot of

72:51

theories on that. I mean, we don't,

72:53

first of all, we don't need to know

72:54

motive to know what happened. They,

72:57

meaning unelected federal employees got

73:00

rid of Richard Nixon, which is the most

73:02

anti-democratic way to make a leadership

73:05

change that there is. Okay. I should

73:08

just say at the I actually kind of

73:09

believe in democracy. Obviously, it's

73:11

not working well. Obviously, it's ending

73:13

globally. There will never be another

73:14

liberal democracy, unfortunately. But

73:16

I'm attached to it cuz I was born here.

73:18

I really believe in it and it's better

73:20

than any other system. So, that's why

73:22

I'm pissed. What was their motive?

73:25

There are a lot of theories on this.

73:27

There's an amazing conversation. It's on

73:29

tape um between Richard Nixon when he

73:32

was still president. I think it was in

73:33

1973, and I think it was Richard Helms,

73:36

the head of the CIA, though I may have

73:38

[ __ ] that up, but it was the head of

73:39

the CIA. I think it was Helms. Um, and

73:41

Nixon says, "I know why they killed Jack

73:46

Kennedy." So Nixon was a student of

73:48

history, obviously a flawed and

73:49

complicated person, but a very, very

73:51

smart person. And he was really

73:54

interested in why this guy who'd been

73:56

president, just one president before

73:58

him, was murdered. And he didn't think

74:01

it was a lone gunman who was

74:03

mysteriously assassinated two days later

74:05

by another lone gunman. Like, it's so

74:07

obviously [ __ ] and he knew that and

74:09

he said to the SEA director who and you

74:11

can listen to the tape it's on the

74:12

internet is totally silent on this

74:16

question. So I think there was the

74:19

impression I don't think I know that

74:21

Nixon understood that the bureaucracy

74:23

was really in control of the country. It

74:24

wasn't elected officials and that's a

74:28

massive threat. Um because it's true.

74:31

>> That's good.

74:32

>> So

74:32

>> dude [clears throat]

74:34

>> that's all media.

74:35

>> Yeah. all media takes their slant and

74:37

their angle and decides they're going to

74:39

dictate it their way as opposed to I I

74:41

don't I don't even know I I don't even

74:44

know of a journalist that I mean no one

74:48

there's no one that sits objectively and

74:51

watches anything anymore.

74:53

>> No, not in mainstream media.

74:54

>> No, absolutely.

74:55

>> You saw what they did with the photo of

74:57

that kid who got shot, that pretty guy

74:59

who got shot in Minneapolis.

75:01

>> MSNBC doctorred his photo and made him

75:03

better looking. fixed his teeth, squared

75:06

his jaw, gave him a tan. You haven't

75:09

seen it?

75:09

>> No. Please pull that up.

75:11

>> We We showed it yesterday, but we'll

75:12

show it again today. The before and

75:13

after. It's in the text that I sent.

75:16

Yeah. It's [ __ ] crazy. Look at the

75:18

difference.

75:19

>> What?

75:20

>> Yeah. It's him on the left. He looks

75:21

like Ari's brother. On the right, he he

75:25

looks like some [ __ ] handsome

75:26

Crossfitter. Like, look at the

75:28

difference. Look at the teeth. Look at

75:31

the nose. They shrunk his nose. They

75:33

widened his jaw. They shrunk his chin.

75:36

That's crazy.

75:38

They decided he was too ugly to be

75:40

sympathetic towards.

75:41

>> So, so then, so then

75:44

[sighs and gasps] Man, this kind of bums

75:46

me out that you I mean, I I always kind

75:49

of had hopes up that if I turned on, if

75:51

I turned on the news, I'd hear some

75:53

objective rant or some objectiveness of

75:56

anything, but there's none.

75:58

>> Yeah. You got to go independent. You got

76:00

to go to Glenn Greenwald and Michael

76:02

Shelonburgger and people like that, Matt

76:04

Taiibbe. You got to go to independent

76:05

journalists. The only ones that are

76:06

going to give you the real deal. People

76:08

that are connected to giant corporations

76:09

that their job is to distribute the

76:11

news. They're not going to give you.

76:12

They're going to give you a narrative

76:14

that's approved. Who was Deepth Throat?

76:17

Because Deep Throat was exposed. They

76:19

did eventually expose Deep Throat. And

76:21

it's even more shocking when you find

76:22

out who Deep Throat was.

76:25

>> I saw the movie. That's a different

76:27

movie.

76:28

>> That's about suck and [ __ ]

76:29

>> That was a good one.

76:31

>> Well, the the name Deep Throat was

76:34

because in nod to the movie.

76:36

>> Oh, for real?

76:36

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the the

76:38

movie came out first. Um [ __ ] was

76:42

uh W. Mark felt the number two official

76:44

at the FBI during Watergate, who

76:47

secretly provided key information to

76:48

Washington Post reporter Bob Woodburn.

76:50

So, the FBI was involved in the breakin.

76:53

The number two official at the FBI was

76:55

the guy who is providing information

76:57

under the name Deepth Throat. So the FBI

77:00

did it. They did the whole thing.

77:03

>> Is that your phone?

77:04

>> It's Yeah, I'm an old man. Joe FBI.

77:06

>> It's the FBI. You said FBI too many

77:08

times.

77:09

>> How Who's calling you when it's on do

77:10

not disturb? It might be the FBI.

77:12

>> Spam risk. Should I answer?

77:14

>> No.

77:15

>> Why is it I don't understand. You put it

77:16

on. I have no idea, Joe. I'm old.

77:19

>> They're hacking it.

77:19

>> I'm [ __ ] I got I need They probably do.

77:21

That's a weird ring though.

77:22

>> That's an old man ring

77:25

>> cuz my wife doesn't answer a [ __ ]

77:26

phone. So, I turned her ring to that.

77:28

So, she changed my ring to that.

77:29

>> We're two old [ __ ] people.

77:31

>> So, then what's the fix? How do I trust

77:33

anyone?

77:34

>> You have to trust independent news,

77:36

independent media that's not connected

77:38

to any corporation. Because as soon as

77:40

you're connected to a corporation,

77:41

you're connected to advertisers. As soon

77:43

as you connected to advertisers, the a

77:45

giant percentage of advertisers on

77:48

television is pharmaceutical drug

77:49

companies, major corporations. So you

77:52

have things that you're not allowed to

77:53

touch. That's why you never hear

77:55

anything in all the news about vaccine

77:58

injuries. You never never hear about all

78:00

these people that are having strokes,

78:01

all these people that the rise in heart

78:03

attacks, the rise in myocarditis,

78:05

particularly amongst young people, blood

78:07

clots.

78:08

>> That's what we were talking about. I got

78:09

backed like four times

78:11

>> like boosters from W. Johnson. Johnson

78:14

Johnson.

78:15

>> Mhm.

78:15

>> And uh that's the first thing they say

78:17

when they start looking at blood counts.

78:19

They're like, "Do you get vaccinated?"

78:20

And I was like, "Yeah, four times." Even

78:21

doctors like f you didn't need to do it

78:23

four times.

78:24

>> Yeah. Well, I don't know why you did

78:25

that.

78:25

>> Cuz you had to get no goddamn concert.

78:27

You had to show

78:28

>> You didn't have to have four of them to

78:29

get in a concert.

78:29

>> I had a TV. First one was real early.

78:32

Like I got it when when you were gotten

78:34

cancelled for getting it.

78:35

>> They're like just just Mexican people.

78:37

And I just went in with a mask on like,

78:38

"Hola." And got a [ __ ] shot in East

78:41

LA cuz I had to go shoot a movie.

78:43

>> Oh wow.

78:43

>> They're like, "Do not show your [ __ ]

78:45

face." And I was like, "I won't. I

78:46

won't."

78:47

>> Why not show your face?

78:48

>> Cuz it was like it was back when it was

78:49

like uh it was just um what was it? Need

78:52

not needy workers. What is it called?

78:54

The remember remember the first round of

78:56

>> workers.

78:56

>> It was like like people you need in the

78:58

country, you know?

78:59

>> Right. Essential essential workers.

79:01

Yeah.

79:01

>> And then I was shooting a movie so they

79:03

got me a pass to get a

79:04

>> Oh, so you got it when you weren't

79:05

supposed to get it?

79:06

>> Yeah. way early. Way early.

79:08

>> Oh, interesting.

79:09

>> And then and then I got it I got it. I

79:12

had to get it again in Serbia

79:15

>> for a movie.

79:16

>> And Yeah. And that's when

79:17

>> they made you get it again.

79:18

>> Again?

79:18

>> Yeah.

79:18

>> And then I got it when I came home. And

79:20

then I got it one more time.

79:21

>> Mo AR told me he had to do it. He had to

79:23

get boosted before they let him do his

79:25

Netflix series.

79:26

>> Yeah. Doesn't even make Why? Meanwhile,

79:29

he'd had COVID. He'd recovered.

79:32

He had CO when we were all doing those

79:34

concerts. When me and Chappelle and him

79:37

and a bunch of other guys were were

79:39

doing those pandemic concerts, he got

79:42

CO. So there was no reason for him to

79:44

get boosted.

79:45

>> I got boosted four times. I got CO 11

79:47

times.

79:47

>> God.

79:48

>> Like what I mean it's like [ __ ]

79:49

>> so crazy.

79:50

>> It's crazy. When I had COVID when I was

79:52

shooting Free Bert.

79:54

>> Jesus.

79:54

>> I gave it to a bunch of people.

79:57

They were like you got a cough. And I

79:58

was like ah it's fine. D you want to get

80:01

tested? I was like, "No, I'm not getting

80:02

tested."

80:02

>> But the first thing like my wife asked

80:04

me wearing a condom. I was like, "We're

80:05

good, guys."

80:06

>> And uh and then I I gave it to one of

80:08

the dudes, I think, and the dude was

80:11

wearing a mask. He was the only one that

80:12

got it.

80:13

>> Shout out to my buddy.

80:15

>> Well, he probably had gotten boosted a

80:17

bunch of times.

80:18

>> I should tell everyone to watch Freeird

80:19

on Netflix. I That's I I should say

80:21

that. But keep going. Can I tell you

80:23

something I'm I'm obsessed with that

80:25

I've been dying to talk to you about.

80:28

So, like, uh, I watched the I've been

80:30

watching I've been watching a lot of UFC

80:32

lately and and and [snorts] I I want

80:34

your perspective because I'm thinking of

80:36

this globally like Jordan, they compare

80:38

Jordan and LeBron James, right? And they

80:40

compare Tom Brady to to Joe Montana and

80:43

the big argument they always say is,

80:45

well, you know, Tom Brady couldn't play

80:48

in the league Joe Montana played in

80:49

because the rules were different. They

80:51

got [ __ ] up left and right. Right.

80:53

Okay.

80:53

>> And like they were concussions and there

80:54

was no roughing the passer. You could

80:56

hit the quarterback late, all that [ __ ]

80:58

>> right?

80:59

>> Well, what about UFC? Because like how

81:01

would say, and I don't mean slanderous,

81:04

I just curious, okay,

81:05

>> someone like Tank Tank Abbott or or Dan

81:07

Severson or or Hoist Gracie, how would

81:10

they fare against say the the fighters

81:13

that are fighting today?

81:15

>> Well, it really all depends on whether

81:18

or not they I think Tank Abbott would do

81:20

really well. I think Tank Abbott would

81:22

do really well because the heavyweight

81:24

division is the most shallow division.

81:26

Like would he do really well against the

81:28

guys like Sirill Gan or Tom Aspenol?

81:30

Probably not. But he didn't do really

81:32

well against guys like Maurice Smith,

81:34

you know, the real elite strikers of the

81:36

day. But Tank Abbott was a [ __ ] huge

81:40

man. I mean, he was enormous powerful

81:43

guy who had ridiculous knockout power

81:46

and he would brawl and anybody who brawl

81:48

like look at Derrick Lewis. Derrick

81:50

Lewis has the most knockouts in the

81:51

history of the UFC and he's not like the

81:55

most highly skilled guy in the sport.

81:57

He's just a really big powerful guy who

81:59

has unbelievable knockout power and he's

82:01

still

82:02

>> relatively successful even today. He has

82:04

the most knockouts in the history of the

82:06

heavyweight division. But Tank Abbott

82:07

would still [ __ ] a lot of people up in

82:08

the lower ranks of the heavyweight

82:10

division. Dan Severn would still take a

82:12

lot of people down and beat their asses

82:13

because he was an elite wrestler. Like

82:15

those kind of skills, Mark Coleman would

82:17

take a lot of people down and beat their

82:18

asses. those skills that they have like

82:21

the elite wrestlers and the the really

82:23

powerful punchers they would always do

82:25

well. Hois Gracie um if first of all if

82:30

he was fighting in the UFC he would be

82:32

fighting without a ghee so that would be

82:34

different right so he relied on the ghee

82:36

a lot because he would get a hold of

82:39

guys and they would grab the ghee like

82:41

instinctively and he like great like

82:43

that's part that's what he wanted and

82:45

then and then once it went to the ground

82:48

I mean it was like a man and a child

82:51

like his jiu-jitsu was so good and for

82:53

the time no one even knew jiu-jitsu

82:56

So he was a black belt against white

82:58

belts and he was just tapping out

82:59

everybody. Nobody had a chance

83:01

>> in this day and age. That's just not the

83:03

case anymore. Hoist Gracie still,

83:06

>> if he was alive today, I or not he's

83:08

alive today. If he's of course he's

83:10

alive today. If he was competing today,

83:11

if he was a young man competing today,

83:14

he would still give hell to a lot of

83:17

people in an appropriate weight class if

83:19

it went to the ground because his

83:21

jiu-jitsu is so good. His striking was

83:23

always a means to an end. his striking.

83:25

He would put go at a distance, he would

83:27

kick at your legs, but he was his whole

83:29

thing was about closing the distance,

83:30

getting you to the ground, strangling

83:31

you, getting you in you an arm bar,

83:33

tapping you out in a triangle,

83:35

jiu-jitsu. So, he was a pure jiu-jitsu

83:37

fighter. And if it went to the ground

83:39

today, he would still give real problems

83:42

to a lot of fighters cuz he was that

83:44

good. He was that good at the on the

83:46

ground. And today, with the difference

83:48

in training partners, he'd be even

83:50

better.

83:50

>> Yeah. I'm I'm reading this book by uh

83:53

Wright Thompson. You know that dude?

83:54

He's he wrote Papy Land?

83:56

>> No.

83:57

>> But he's it's he's talking about Jordan

83:59

in this book

84:00

>> and how at 50 Jordan had a hard time

84:03

like going to the next phase of his

84:05

life. He still was like, "What if I put

84:07

him on? What if I put I want to go?"

84:08

>> Of course. He's a champion.

84:10

>> Happens with fighters, too.

84:12

>> Oh, yeah. I mean, you go back to Shannon

84:14

Sharp and he's doing better now

84:16

financially than he ever did, but I bet

84:18

he'd trade it all just

84:20

>> Yeah. It's the glory of sport. It's like

84:22

there's nothing else like those highs.

84:24

>> Those high especially for a fighter when

84:27

you're like Justin Gatechi this weekend

84:28

who beat Patty Pimble. Crazy fight. That

84:31

guy when it was over the the happiness

84:34

that he had, the smile on his face, he

84:36

was so I mean he was just in a high like

84:39

nothing else in life. It's hard for

84:41

those guys to put that away. It's hard

84:43

for those guys to let that go.

84:44

>> Yeah.

84:45

>> And their identity is completely wrapped

84:47

around the fact that they're an elite

84:48

fighter. How did you not How did you not

84:50

have your identity about your career?

84:54

Because you I I know you pretty well and

84:55

you never really like it's tough to

84:57

disconnect your identity to your career

84:59

or your dreams or your hopes, which I

85:00

think fighters it's easy to understand.

85:03

Athletes, it's easy to understand, but I

85:04

think it happens with comedians and and

85:06

actors and even podcasters to say, "How

85:09

did you not do that?"

85:10

>> Well, I don't know. Um, I recognize the

85:14

pitfalls in it, but I also recognize

85:16

that at the end of the day, you're just

85:17

a human being. And I think, man, I I've

85:20

said this a million times and I I'm

85:21

sorry I have to repeat it, but I think

85:23

brutal workouts are what center me. It's

85:26

the one thing that centers me more than

85:28

anything in life cuz I do to myself, I

85:31

humble myself all the time. like I break

85:35

myself. I break myself down all the time

85:38

so that like when life comes or like all

85:40

that other stuff seems like something I

85:42

do. It's fun. It's great. It's but I'm

85:45

just me. I'm just a human being. I'm I'm

85:48

me in the 10th round when I want to quit

85:50

and the bell goes off and I know I have

85:52

to hit the bag for three more minutes,

85:54

you know? Like I know who I am. Like I

85:56

don't need my career to tell me who I am

85:59

and I have enough [ __ ] you money that I

86:00

could just sail off into the sunset.

86:02

Bye-bye.

86:02

>> Do you think you will? No,

86:04

>> no,

86:04

>> no. Why I like this? Yeah, it's fun. I

86:06

thought about it. I've thought about a

86:07

bunch of things doing different things.

86:10

If I had multiple lives, I would live a

86:12

bunch of different lives.

86:13

>> Oh, tell me about one.

86:14

>> I'd be a professional pool player.

86:16

That's what I I would like to do. Yeah,

86:18

I'd like to go on the tour, play

86:20

professional pool. If I just had like a

86:23

year to really practice, I think I could

86:25

do it. It's just there's no way. There's

86:28

no money, there's no time, there's no.

86:30

So, I just have to like keep that one in

86:32

my head as a hobby and make sure I don't

86:34

get too addicted to it. You know, my

86:37

problem is I get addicted to things and

86:39

then I just like obsess on them and then

86:41

the the weird part of my brain that

86:44

focuses obsessively on things, it would

86:46

just overcome all the rest of my life

86:48

and it would just be this one thing that

86:49

I think of. I allow that in bursts. Like

86:52

I allow that like when I was getting

86:54

ready for my comedy special, my live

86:56

special, that was my whole life. I

86:57

didn't think about anything else other

86:58

than doing that set. Like when I go

87:00

hunting, I don't think about anything

87:01

else other than getting in shape,

87:03

shooting perfect arrows, getting ready

87:05

to hunt. I I allow myself these brief

87:08

moments of obsession, but I I have to be

87:11

careful. I have to be careful with my

87:12

brain.

87:14

>> Your your brain's fascinating. I wish I

87:16

listened to you more. Like when we were

87:18

younger, you said stuff that I just was

87:21

like, that's not right.

87:22

>> Like what? [laughter]

87:24

>> It might not be right for you. That's

87:25

the thing. I wish I had you. I remember

87:27

I remember one time you're like you're

87:28

like you're you're working too hard. You

87:31

should be your focus should be be less

87:32

famous. And I was like, "What are you

87:34

talking about?" And now I'm there. I'm

87:36

like, "Oh, I know exactly what you're

87:37

talking about." That's why I took the

87:38

Spotify deal. I was hoping I would be

87:40

like 10% less famous. That was my idea.

87:43

I was like, "Good. Less people watch

87:45

Spotify, less people listen. How many

87:47

people are going to go over there?" Like

87:48

Jamie kind of kind of freaked out in the

87:50

beginning because we lost half of our

87:51

audience like right away. He's like, "We

87:53

lost half the crowd." Like, so what? Who

87:56

cares? Good. I'll be less famous. I

87:58

don't want to be

87:58

>> I wanted to be famous so bad.

88:00

>> Well, it's because you weren't. Yeah.

88:02

Right. And so I already was. So I kind

88:04

of had a perspective like this isn't

88:05

what everybody thinks it is. It's just

88:07

weird, you know? Like the glory of it,

88:09

it's all fake. Like the the people that

88:11

love you, they don't even know you. Like

88:13

it's kind of crazy. Like the people that

88:15

love you should be the people that know

88:17

you. [laughter] You know, that's a good

88:18

thing. If the people that know you hate

88:21

you, but the rest of the world loves

88:22

you, then you're in an Ellen position,

88:25

right? You're in this weird position

88:26

where you're a fake person. Yeah. Where

88:28

everybody thinks you're one thing, but

88:30

you're actually another thing. So, the

88:31

people around you don't like you. And

88:33

then when the water breaks and everybody

88:34

starts talking, all the staff start

88:36

talking [ __ ] about you and you realize

88:37

like, oh, she was a monster, you know?

88:40

So, I think I had the benefit of having

88:44

some fame to realize like, oh, this is

88:46

not Also, I think about things a lot. I

88:48

don't just accept things for what they

88:49

are. Something's happening. I'm like,

88:51

"Okay, but what is this really? What is

88:54

this really?"

88:55

>> You did listen a little because I

88:57

remember the one time I called you when

88:58

you were on a motorcycle in Vietnam

89:01

>> and I was like, "Bro, you got to quit

89:02

that job." And you're like, "What?" And

89:04

I was like, "You got you're a funny

89:05

comic, man. You're a funny dude. You're

89:07

great on podcast. You don't need to do

89:09

this. Like, the world's changed. This is

89:11

holding you back.

89:12

>> Thank God. Thank God." You know, it's

89:15

like I always say like, "Thank God I had

89:16

the right people in my life at the right

89:17

times because I there's so much about

89:19

like like I'll tell you like, you know,

89:21

with the blood clot thing, they said,

89:23

you know, I I never every time I got

89:25

sober, it was always to like just prove

89:27

I could get sober for a month, you know,

89:28

right?

89:29

>> And just be like, I'll take a break, get

89:30

healthy, get good blood work, I'm back

89:32

at it."

89:33

>> This is the first time I've ever looked

89:35

at it like I'd never looked at how often

89:39

I was disrespectful to my health. like

89:42

how often I was like like get in the

89:44

airport and be like drinking at six in

89:45

the morning like [ __ ] it, you know? And

89:47

then I go and now that I'm flying I'm

89:48

forced to fly sober. I get in the

89:50

airport and I go I'll have egg whites.

89:52

>> Egg whites? You need the yolk.

89:54

>> No, you can't have too much iron when

89:56

you're on blood thinners. Yeah, I know.

89:57

This whole [ __ ] thing is nightmare.

89:59

But they said sober for 6 months and

90:01

then I and then I had a really

90:02

interesting conversation with with my

90:04

trainer and with Leanne over this

90:06

conversation. And they were like, "You

90:07

know what's so funny is they don't see

90:09

my lifestyle is partying and everything

90:11

is disrespectful to my health because I

90:13

work out, because I get blood work,

90:15

because I I'm sober for every now." They

90:17

were saying it's disrespectful to people

90:20

that don't that just stay online and

90:22

scroll and don't live their life. That's

90:25

what's disrespectful.

90:26

>> Well, how so? Like if if you if you're

90:28

just like you come home and you lock

90:30

into video games and you don't go out

90:31

and you don't really connect with people

90:33

and then you wake up and you scroll for

90:34

three hours and then you light a

90:36

cigarette and you go to work and you

90:38

come home and you play video games,

90:40

you're not living your life. And they're

90:41

like Leanne was saying the other day she

90:43

was like, you know,

90:46

don't don't like like get excited to

90:48

start drinking again, but make sure that

90:49

that you can measure that. You know,

90:52

>> get excited to start drinking again is a

90:54

wild thing to say. Oh, I'm I mean I'm

90:55

looking.

90:55

>> But how is it disrespectful to people

90:57

that are watching you?

90:59

>> No, no, no, no. I meant I meant, you

91:00

know, people that aren't living like

91:02

people that are leaving comments and

91:05

like [ __ ] on girls skateboarding

91:06

going, "You should wear a bra whore."

91:08

Like guys that aren't living their life

91:09

and not spending their time out with

91:11

family and and living their life.

91:12

>> So, what's disrespectful to them?

91:14

>> What? I'm lost.

91:15

>> You said it's disrespectful to

91:17

>> No, no. They're they're disrespecting

91:18

their own life by not living.

91:20

>> Okay.

91:20

>> By not getting in the gym, not going

91:22

out, not going and having dinner with

91:23

your wife. How is your life you

91:25

disrespecting your health doing anything

91:27

to them?

91:28

>> No. No. I think I was just two

91:30

parallels. Like I I was looking at

91:32

health thinking in hindsight like how

91:35

many times I just, you know, burned the

91:36

candle at both ends. Didn't think like

91:38

how off how fragile life actually is.

91:41

>> Oh [snorts] yeah. Well, you're very

91:42

durable. Unfortunately, that's part of

91:44

the problem is you were able to do that

91:46

and show no bad health markers. Like you

91:48

were drinking all the time. You got your

91:50

blood work done. Your liver's fine.

91:52

You're like, "Look at this. That's

91:53

great. Like you were I remember you were

91:55

super nervous like when you first

91:56

started getting blood work, but then

91:57

you're like it turns out it's fine.

91:58

>> Yeah.

91:59

>> Yeah. You you have great genetics, you

92:01

know,

92:01

>> but you think I think now I go, man, I'm

92:04

like my my grandfather died at 53

92:07

>> and I I'm 53

92:08

>> and I go and then you start seeing

92:10

people die and you're like [ __ ] man.

92:13

>> Yeah.

92:13

>> Like this blood clot scared the [ __ ] out

92:14

of me because people die from this. They

92:16

die from it. It's not It's no joke. And

92:18

then you're like,

92:19

>> "Well, [ __ ] that was just me flying."

92:21

Did they make you do a D- dimer test?

92:23

>> No.

92:24

>> So D-dimer test is when they test your

92:26

body for clots for microclots. So

92:29

apparently a lot of people that got a

92:31

ton of boosters Yeah.

92:32

>> got they they have microclots. And this

92:35

is one of the things. There was a

92:36

Canadian doctor that one of was was one

92:38

of the first guys to get cancelled for

92:40

saying that the vaccine was causing

92:41

clots because he was one of the first

92:44

guys that was doing a d-dimer test on

92:46

all of his patients. And he found out

92:48

that his vaccinated patients, the vast

92:51

majority of them were having these

92:53

microclots all throughout their system.

92:56

And it was being caused in his opinion

92:59

by the vaccine. And boy, eventually his

93:02

business wound up getting burnt to the

93:03

ground. He got he lost his medical

93:06

license. He lost his practice. It was a

93:08

crazy story and he was right. He was

93:11

right. And now it's pretty mainstream

93:13

like that discussion of it. And you know

93:16

even doctors who used to prescribe

93:19

boosters don't prescribe them anymore

93:21

which is kind of crazy. Oh yeah. Like at

93:23

what point in time like the people that

93:24

are that used to say you need to get

93:26

your booster. Well how come you're not

93:28

getting boosters anymore? Co's still

93:30

around. Those people aren't getting

93:31

boosters. No one's getting boosters

93:32

anymore. None of those people are.

93:34

>> Are they saying that we have a higher

93:36

antibbody rate now? Is like why is CO

93:38

not as dangerous today as it was then?

93:40

>> Well, the thing that happens with

93:41

viruses is they become less potent but

93:45

more transmissible. And that becoming

93:48

more transmissible allows the virus to

93:50

spread. And being less potent means it

93:53

doesn't kill the host. So it's actually

93:54

better for the virus to be more

93:57

transmissible but less potent. And that

93:59

generally happens in time when people

94:01

develop antibodies and people develop,

94:04

you know, like a resistance to it. So

94:06

what happens is the virus just becomes

94:08

easier to transmit but less potent.

94:11

>> Oh wow.

94:11

>> Yeah. That's why the variants over time

94:14

got less and less. Like the delta

94:16

variant was actually pretty strong but

94:17

after that they started dropping off and

94:20

then omnicron which is pretty nothing

94:22

and then they stopped naming them

94:24

because it really wasn't just a couple

94:25

variants. There's there's hundreds of

94:27

them. They don't even know how many. And

94:29

a lot of it is because they vaccinated

94:32

during a pandemic. And one of the things

94:34

that viologists throughout history were

94:37

always saying is you never vaccinate

94:39

during a pandemic because when you

94:41

vaccinate during a pandemic, you

94:43

actually encourage variance because the

94:47

vaccine realizes especially when you

94:48

have a leaky vaccine like COVID. So what

94:51

a leaky vaccine is a vaccine that

94:52

doesn't stop transmission and doesn't

94:54

stop infection. What it does is it it

94:57

gives you some protection through

94:59

antibodies, but that allows you to get

95:01

the the cold and the then the cold

95:03

realizes, oh, this guy's got these

95:05

antibodies. We'll just work around that.

95:07

And then people who had antibodies to

95:10

the original wild virus once they got

95:13

vaccinated they they this this variant

95:18

would see that they were or wouldn't see

95:21

but it would have a different pathway

95:23

because the the the

95:26

original immunity was to the wild virus.

95:29

The the original antibodies was to the

95:30

first virus that doesn't even exist

95:32

anymore. So your body didn't recognize

95:36

these new variants. So people get COVID

95:38

even more easily. I know I butchered

95:39

that if you're a viologist, but there's

95:41

a guy named Gear Vanderbos

95:45

um and he is a a vaccine specialist.

95:48

He's a viologist and one of his and his

95:50

he specializes in vaccines and he was

95:53

one of the early people saying this is

95:55

madness. This goes against conventional

95:57

thinking. You do not vaccinate during a

95:59

pandemic.

96:01

>> Jesus. I I'll tell you what, I've I had

96:03

CO a bunch. Nothing was like the swine

96:06

flu.

96:07

>> Yeah, you told me that. Remember in

96:08

2009, right? Dude, you got it bad.

96:10

>> I had I thought I was going to die. I

96:12

mean, I've never been that sick [snorts]

96:13

in my life. Shallow breathing. Uh, I I

96:17

mean it was I I and I was in I had to

96:20

fly to Mexico cuz I was doing a gig and

96:22

I and I was like I got on the plane, I

96:24

always drank on planes, had two drinks

96:25

and I was like I was like I'm a death

96:27

store and I [ __ ] to this day I've

96:31

never been that sick in my life and I

96:33

don't know how it didn't kill me.

96:34

>> You never drink when you're sick.

96:35

>> Oh no [ __ ]

96:36

>> It is the worst. It's so bad for your

96:38

immune system to drink when you're sick

96:40

cuz you just give your your immune

96:41

system this new thing to fight while

96:43

it's already involved in a fight.

96:45

>> Yeah. got I got on the plane with

96:46

Leanne. We were flying to Mexico and I

96:48

was like, I'm not that bad. I remember

96:49

being cold. I remember it hit me like a

96:51

ton of bricks that night. I was like,

96:54

I'm getting [ __ ] sick immediately.

96:56

Like it it was like bam. And

96:58

>> back then [clears throat] you weren't

96:59

even taking vitamins.

97:00

>> No, I wasn't doing anything.

97:02

>> Yeah, that's the problem. And this is

97:03

the other thing that the big problem

97:05

that I had during the COVID thing is

97:07

like I knew people were getting over

97:09

COVID. It wasn't killing everybody and

97:11

they were making it out like everybody

97:13

was going to get it was going to die.

97:14

everybody unvaccinated was going to die.

97:16

But I knew people that got it and

97:17

weren't the healthiest people and they

97:19

were fine. So I'm like, well, what the

97:21

hell's going on? Like, what is it? And

97:23

how come nobody's talking about

97:25

vitamins? Nobody's talking about the

97:27

impact that vitamins have on your immune

97:28

system, which is well documented. And

97:30

then if you brought it up, you're a

97:32

conspiracy theorist. You're a crazy

97:33

person.

97:34

>> But everyone listen because you brought

97:36

up I'll never forget the day you brought

97:38

up vitamin D.

97:39

>> Yeah. And I went to write aid that day

97:42

to get vitamin D and it was gone. I mean

97:46

the [ __ ] It was like it had been

97:47

looted.

97:48

>> There was no vitamin D to be found and

97:50

it was like I think it was like D3 or

97:52

something.

97:53

>> D3 and K2. The two of them with

97:56

magnesium is the the move. D3, K2, and

98:01

magnesium

98:02

>> all together. Do you know what's so

98:03

funny? I have rosacea on my cheeks. Um I

98:06

guess got it you get it when you're

98:08

older sometimes. And the cure is

98:10

ivormectin.

98:11

>> That's hilarious.

98:12

>> They were like, "You should get on

98:13

ivormectton." I was like I said, "You

98:15

mean horse tranquilizer?"

98:16

>> Horse paste.

98:17

>> Horse paste.

98:17

>> Yeah. Horse dewormer. Yeah. Like what

98:20

CNN called it.

98:20

>> But it's so great. It was the first

98:22

thing. They're like, "Have you have you

98:23

ever heard of ivormectton?" I was like,

98:24

"I'm friends with Joe Rogan. Are you

98:25

kidding me? [laughter]

98:27

>> Don't put me on CNN. They'll make me

98:28

purple."

98:29

>> Yeah. Well, the crazy thing about that

98:31

CNN thing is I mentioned a bunch of

98:33

other things that I took. All of them

98:34

were very effective. It wasn't one thing

98:36

that I mentioned. I mentioned IV

98:38

vitamins. I me and I I took IV NAD IV

98:43

vitamins and then the big one was

98:44

monoconal antibodies and monoconal

98:47

antibodies. They made it really hard for

98:49

people to get after that because people

98:51

were just saying, "Oh, I just need to

98:52

get monoconal antibodies and I'm

98:53

better." Bro, I shipped monocon. There

98:56

was we were using a tele medicine um

98:59

nurse and there was a part of a um like

99:02

a na nationwide service that you could

99:05

send people a nurse and they would go

99:08

deliver monoconal antibodies and IV

99:11

vitamins and the monocon the IV vitamins

99:13

thing always existed but the monoconal

99:15

antibodies they added to it once COVID

99:17

came and I can't tell you how many

99:20

people that I sent nurses to people that

99:23

I didn't even know people that were

99:25

friends of friends, my mom's friend, my

99:27

and I'd say, "Give me the address, tell

99:29

me who they are, and I'll send it to

99:30

them." And I paid for all of it. And I

99:32

did it to like at least 100 people. No

99:34

[ __ ] At least 100 people. Yeah.

99:37

Actors who were like like super liberal.

99:40

I didn't out any of them. They would

99:42

send me a DM. Hey man, I got COVID. What

99:44

should I do? And I said, "Where are you?

99:46

Tell me where you where you live. I'm

99:47

going to have someone sent to you." And

99:48

I I just send someone to them. And then

99:51

they'd come back and thank me. Very few

99:53

of them ever thanked me publicly, but a

99:56

lot of them got the service. And a lot

99:58

of people that weren't famous people,

100:00

just like my friend's mom or my mom or

100:02

my uncle or my cousin, someone got co

100:04

they're doing really bad. I'm like,

100:06

"Tell me where they are." And and I did

100:08

it I'm I'm not lying. I did it to like a

100:10

hundred people. I spent a lot of money

100:11

doing that.

100:12

>> How much does How much would something

100:13

like that cost?

100:14

>> Thousands of dollars.

100:15

>> For real.

100:15

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did it for

100:18

people I didn't know. I did it for

100:20

people I had never met. I did it for

100:21

people that were famous that I never

100:23

met. I just I just said it was easier to

100:26

me for just to send them to them.

100:28

>> Leanne was the first person to get CO in

100:30

our house

100:31

and uh I had a joke I used to have a

100:33

joke about it. She had CO and she gave

100:34

me a hand job and I didn't get it. I was

100:37

like that's how intimate our hand jobs

100:38

are.

100:39

>> That's hilarious.

100:40

>> And uh she got it and I remember doing I

100:43

remember I called you and you were like

100:44

get her the NAD that you gave me the

100:46

whole [ __ ] list and we got it. She

100:48

got over it right away. We ended up

100:50

right away and we're like, "Cool, we can

100:52

go skiing."

100:53

>> No, no, no, no.

100:53

>> And then we all got it. We all got it.

100:55

>> You're not ready yet. You

100:57

>> Georgia gave it to me and she goes, she

100:58

I remember we were at the

101:00

>> George gave it to me and I remember we

101:01

were sitting at the dinner table that

101:02

night at our ski place and she was like

101:05

started crying. I go, "Baby, don't cry.

101:07

It's fine. Listen, it's totally fine."

101:09

She was like, "You're high risk."

101:11

[laughter]

101:13

>> You got to think of it as like it's

101:16

over. the bad part's over, but now your

101:18

body's in recovery. So, you can't go

101:20

skiing or do anything crazy.

101:22

>> I went skiing. I remember skiing that

101:24

first day with COVID thinking, you know,

101:26

it's just me. The mountain was empty. I

101:28

was like, it's just me. I don't really

101:29

have it. I'm fine. I tested negative. I

101:31

remember I tested negative. I was like,

101:33

I'm just hung over from last night. And

101:35

when I got down, I tested again. And I

101:37

tested positive. And I already had my

101:39

tour bus come and grab Georgia and

101:40

Leanne and drive them back to LA. So,

101:42

it's me and Isa. And Isa was like,

101:45

>> I only got it because I stayed up late

101:47

one night drinking and playing pool till

101:49

like 5:00 in the morning with my friend

101:51

John Showman.

101:52

>> I remember you tell I remember you

101:53

telling me that. You're like, it's more

101:54

you said you were more run down. That's

101:56

why you got it.

101:57

>> I was exhausted cuz uh my friend John he

102:00

John Showman, shout out to John. He's uh

102:02

he makes pool cues like awesome pool

102:04

cues and he lives in Florida and I'd you

102:06

know talked to him back and forth online

102:07

but I never hung out with him. And then

102:09

I made a appointment to meet him at a

102:10

pool hall. And we met at this pool hall

102:12

and we played pool till like five

102:14

o'clock in the morning laughing, having

102:15

a good time. And then um I got back to

102:18

the hotel. I was like really tired. I

102:20

was like, "Boy, I [ __ ] up. I went so

102:22

hard." Like we were out and I had a

102:24

bunch of margaritas and it was late, you

102:26

know, it was late [clears throat] at

102:26

night and then in the morning I just

102:29

felt like [ __ ] I took a hot bath. I

102:31

felt like [ __ ] I had a gig that night.

102:33

I did a a gig that night. I did an arena

102:35

with uh Tony Henchcliffe and Laura

102:37

Bites. We did an arena in Florida and

102:39

then I flew back home and on the way

102:40

home I was cold. I was like God why am I

102:42

so cold? Is this airplane cold and then

102:44

I when I got home I told my wife I'm

102:46

like I'm not feeling good. I go I might

102:49

have CO. Maybe you should sleep in

102:50

another room cuz she had gotten CO and

102:51

gotten over it. Which by the way when

102:53

she had it I [ __ ] her. I didn't I

102:55

didn't even think about I was like I'm

102:57

trying to get it. I never got it. My

102:58

whole family got it. But like I'm always

103:01

been the one who's like always v always

103:03

cold plunging, always sauna, always

103:06

vitamins, always working out. She works

103:08

out too, but it's like

103:09

>> she got it, you know, and my kids got

103:11

it. And I was home, I hugged them like,

103:12

"Daddy, you're going to get him." I'm

103:13

like, "I'm not getting shit." I never

103:15

got it. I had two days when I worked out

103:17

where I didn't feel that good. So when I

103:19

worked out, I just took it light. I just

103:21

just went through the routine like nice

103:23

and easy, not pushing myself. And then

103:25

the next day, still don't feel that

103:27

good. Nice and easy. don't put. And then

103:29

the third day I'm like, I feel pretty

103:30

[ __ ] good. And I went pretty hard.

103:32

I'm like, feel great. And it was done. I

103:34

never got CO. And then that one time I

103:36

got it. And then I didn't get it that

103:39

bad. The one day I felt like [ __ ] I got

103:42

all the the meds and then, you know, a

103:44

couple days later I made that video and

103:46

I put that video up. But that was

103:48

honest. I was like, I got CO. I got all

103:50

this medicine. I feel better now. They

103:52

didn't like the idea that this healthy

103:54

person was saying you you could get over

103:57

this. and also a healthy person that's

103:59

in their 50s was saying you can get over

104:01

this and you don't need this radical

104:05

experimental medicine that they're

104:07

trying to push on people. And so that

104:09

that's just another example of the

104:11

mainstream media that's not there for

104:12

the news because if they really were

104:14

there to inform people, they would say,

104:15

"Well, what did he do? What what what's

104:17

different about him?" Because they're

104:18

[ __ ] compromised. They're all

104:20

compromised by the people that pay their

104:22

advertising budget. the the amount of

104:24

money that pharmaceutical drug companies

104:26

spend on mainstream media is [ __ ]

104:28

preposterous. And they don't do it

104:30

because they're trying to convince

104:31

people to sell drugs. They do it

104:33

specifically because they don't want

104:35

those media organizations to criticize

104:38

any vaccines or any pharmaceutical

104:40

drugs. You never hear them talking about

104:42

there's no mainstream big media stories

104:45

about side effects of some sort of new

104:47

medication. And if there is, it's

104:49

because that company's probably about to

104:52

go under and a new company is asking

104:54

them to talk about it.

104:56

>> It makes me I I mean I' I've always said

104:58

and people think I'm a [ __ ] idiot,

104:59

but I don't trust sleep apnea machines.

105:02

>> Well, sleep apnea machines work.

105:03

>> I know, but I think they overdiagnose

105:06

sleep apnea machines because there's a

105:08

kickback. There's got to be a kickback.

105:09

>> Well, there probably is. There's a You

105:11

know, look, sleep apnea is a real thing

105:12

and it's really [ __ ] dangerous.

105:14

>> But is it is it as me I mean,

105:16

>> people die. Everyone's got it.

105:18

>> Well, not everyone has it. A lot of

105:19

people snore, but there's ways around.

105:21

There's mouth pieces you can use to keep

105:22

your tongue from closing your windpipe.

105:24

You know what I do? I put a mouth piece

105:26

I put a mouthpiece in and then I use

105:28

mouth tape. I've been using mouth tape.

105:30

You know, like you know hostage tape.

105:33

Yeah. I use that stuff. I put it over my

105:35

mouth and I sleep and I breathe through

105:36

my nose

105:37

>> and I feel so much better when I wake

105:40

up. I mean significantly better with

105:42

less sleep. Like if I have five hours

105:45

sleep with hostage shape, I feel better

105:47

than if I have eight hours sleep without

105:48

it.

105:49

>> Really?

105:50

>> 100%.

105:50

>> See, I

105:51

>> you feel different. I don't know why.

105:53

I'm sure. Okay, let's find out. What is

105:55

the science behind breathing through

105:57

your nose while you sleep? Why why is it

106:00

better? Like what is the science behind

106:01

it? I don't know what the science is,

106:03

but I know that a bunch of health

106:05

experts, they they recommended it to me.

106:08

I was like, tape my mouth shut. That

106:09

sounds so stupid.

106:10

>> Yeah,

106:11

>> I did it. And then the first night I did

106:13

it, I woke up and I'm like, "Whoa, I

106:16

feel great." Like I feel significantly

106:18

better. And now I do it every night. So

106:21

I put a mouthpiece in and then I put the

106:23

hostage tape over my mouth.

106:24

>> So the mouthpiece just holds your tongue

106:25

in place.

106:26

>> Exactly. Cuz I have a big tongue. I have

106:27

a big tongue and I have a big neck. The

106:30

problem is when you have big neck

106:32

muscles, all like football players, a

106:34

lot of them, most of them have sleep

106:35

apnnea because all those those

106:37

[clears throat] muscles that constrict

106:39

the wall the walls of your your throat.

106:43

So like there's all this tissue that

106:44

didn't exist before and then you have

106:46

this fat tongue. So I can't sleep on my

106:48

back. If I sleep on my back, it's like

106:50

>> that's me.

106:51

>> Yeah. Okay. Breathing through the nose

106:53

during sleep offers key health

106:55

advantages over mouth breathing. It

106:56

filters and conditions air for better

106:58

lung efficiency and promotes deeper

107:00

rest. Nasal passages filter dust,

107:02

allergens, and pollutants while warming

107:04

and humidifying air protecting the

107:06

airway waves from irritation. Uh this

107:09

reduces dryness in the mouth and throat

107:11

common with mouth breathing.

107:12

>> I got that. I wake up my mouth's so dry

107:14

my my tongue's like a finger.

107:16

>> Reduce snoring and sleep apnnea risk.

107:19

Nose breathing keeps the tongue

107:20

positioned correctly against the pallet

107:21

and jaw forward. Maintaining an open

107:23

airway that minimize snoring and sleep

107:25

apnnea episodes. Mouth breathing allows

107:28

the tongue to fall back obstructing air

107:30

flow which definitely happens to me.

107:31

Improved oxid oxination Jesus ox o o o o

107:36

o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o

107:36

o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o

107:36

oxygenation and relaxation. It boosts

107:39

nitric oxide production for better

107:41

oxygen uptake and blood flow, supporting

107:43

deeper sleep cycles and parasympathetic

107:45

nervous system activation for

107:47

relaxation. This leads to fewer

107:49

awakenings and higher sleep quality.

107:51

Look, for me, I know for a fact it it it

107:54

helps for a fact.

107:57

>> From my my personal feeling, when I wake

107:59

up in the morning and I tape my mouth

108:00

shut, I feel way better.

108:01

>> Really?

108:02

>> Yeah. Like way better.

108:03

>> I snore like crazy, but I I don't I

108:05

don't notice it.

108:06

>> The only problem is you have a beard.

108:07

So, the tape like will slip off with a

108:10

beard, you know?

108:11

>> Maybe I'll just get denture cream and

108:12

put it on my lips.

108:14

>> You ever do that? [laughter] We used to

108:15

do that people when they were sleeping.

108:17

>> Squeeze your lips together without How

108:19

do you open them then? Oh, you can't.

108:21

>> Oh, Jesus.

108:21

>> When people would pass out in our

108:22

fraternity house, we put denture cream

108:24

on their lips. Oh, boy.

108:25

>> And then they wake up like

108:27

that's [ __ ] terrifying.

108:28

>> Terrible. That's terrible.

108:30

>> I'm I'm still kind of stuck. I'm I'm

108:31

still stuck on this concept that [sighs]

108:34

>> with corporate money, we lose not as

108:38

much freedom of speech of freedom of

108:39

opinion. Well, you lose objective

108:42

reality from people that are supposed to

108:44

be giving you information, right? So,

108:46

they're not giving you reality. What

108:48

they're giving you is a filtered

108:51

narrative that has been promoted by

108:53

major corporations that have a vested

108:56

interest in profiting off of this

108:58

narrative being pushed forward. Like if

109:00

you don't get the vaccine, you're going

109:02

to die, right? Yeah, that was a big one.

109:04

And that was why they attacked me. Why

109:06

they attacked me was because like I

109:08

showed that there's something different.

109:09

Like oh look at this healthy guy who's

109:12

in his 50s that's really obsessed with

109:13

health, works out every day and look how

109:16

quick he got over COVID. Well, this

109:18

isn't this thing that we're pretending

109:19

it is. We're pretending it's the plague.

109:21

It's not. It's like a bad flu.

109:24

>> And again, for me, it was like, and

109:26

look, I've done this for, like I said, I

109:27

did it for a lot of people, but just IV

109:30

vitamins. I've I've sent people to

109:32

people. I did it for Bill Burr. Bill

109:34

Burr was here and he was sick and he was

109:36

coughing. And this is like long after

109:38

the pandemic. It's like 2024. And he was

109:40

doing a show and I came to visit him.

109:41

He's like, "I can't get over this cold."

109:42

I go, "Listen to me." I go, "I'm gonna

109:44

give you this number. I'm gonna give you

109:45

these people. You're going to get a hold

109:47

of them and schedule an IV mega dose

109:50

vitamin drip. You want high doses of

109:53

vitamin B. You want high doses of D. You

109:57

want high doses of C and zinc. You want

109:59

all those things together and I

110:01

guarantee you you're going to be fine.

110:02

So he was sick for weeks. He couldn't

110:04

get over this [ __ ] cough. He calls me

110:07

like a day later. He goes, "Dude, I

110:10

can't [ __ ] believe how good I feel."

110:11

He goes, "Dr. Joe Rogan, I'm calling you

110:13

every time I have a problem with this

110:14

again." And look, I did the same thing

110:16

for Dana White. When Dana White had CO,

110:19

he threw some eucalyptus on the rocks in

110:22

his sauna and he couldn't smell it. And

110:24

he goes, "Oh my god, I got CO." He

110:26

[laughter] goes, "The first thing I did

110:27

is called Joe Rogan." He called me up

110:29

and I said, "I'll set you up. We're

110:31

going to get you monoconal antibodies.

110:32

We're going to get you this. We're going

110:33

to get you that." Boom. One day later,

110:35

he's better. That's the reality. It's

110:37

like your body needs tools to let your

110:40

immune system function at its at its

110:42

optimum. And the one of the best tools

110:45

is nutrients.

110:47

>> Vitamin D is amazing for your immune

110:49

system. And it's not just a vitamin.

110:51

It's a hormone. And it's a hormone that

110:53

we don't get because we're not in the

110:55

sun enough. That's what the best way to

110:57

get vitamin D is sunlight. The second

110:59

best way is supplementation. And it's

111:01

really easy. You just take vitamin D

111:04

supplements. Take it with K2, which

111:06

makes it absorb better. And I take it

111:08

also again with magnesium. And do that.

111:11

And I also took zinc with um uh what is

111:15

that stuff called? Uh it's an ionor um

111:20

corsetin. So I take zinc with corsetin.

111:22

Corsetin aids in the the zinc absorption

111:24

in your body. I I take all these

111:26

different things. But I also I'm like

111:28

I'm on the ball. I know what I'm doing.

111:30

But [clears throat] they didn't say

111:32

that. They said he's taking horse

111:34

dewormer because they were trying to

111:36

shame me and they were trying to make it

111:37

look like I was a fool. and they were

111:39

trying to turn all these people that

111:40

were terrified about dying from this

111:42

plague against me.

111:44

>> Is that what's happening? I mean, I'm a

111:46

little obsessed lately, you know, at

111:48

like the the money behind podcasting and

111:52

podcasting kind of changing, you know,

111:54

like podcasting has gotten a little more

111:55

corporate where the where I I feel I

111:58

don't know if you see it

111:59

>> in what way?

112:00

>> Well, it's like uh I mean, I looked at

112:01

the Golden Globes and who was nominated

112:03

and those were all I mean, I think

112:05

they're all, you know, corporate

112:07

podcasts.

112:07

>> Yeah. Let me let me help with that. Um,

112:10

so here's the thing. Like a lot of

112:11

people say, "Why wasn't Joe Rogan

112:12

nominated for the Golden Globes?" And

112:14

like, "Why did you know Amy Polar went?"

112:16

I didn't submit.

112:18

[laughter]

112:20

So, they asked me to submit to be

112:23

nominated for the Golden Globes, and you

112:25

had to pay $500. And the $500 is like

112:28

for paperwork or whatever. I said, "No."

112:31

Like, I don't care. I already won. Like,

112:33

you can't tell me I didn't win. I've

112:34

been number one for six years in a row.

112:36

All of a sudden, you're going to have a

112:37

contest in front of all these people

112:38

wearing tuxedos and you're going to say,

112:40

"Now I'm not number one." Like, [ __ ]

112:41

off.

112:43

>> You can't like I don't care that I'm

112:45

number one, but I am in fact number one.

112:48

So, if all of a sudden you have a

112:49

contest to decide who's really number

112:51

one amongst us.

112:53

>> Like, that's amongst you. You're allowed

112:54

to have your opinion. You like Amy Polar

112:56

better than me, that's great.

112:58

>> Oh, that's so [ __ ] funny. Joe, do you

113:00

know how many people have been like ride

113:04

or die for you? Like the fact that Joe

113:06

Rogan didn't win. The fact that And I've

113:08

heard that so much that It's so funny

113:10

you just didn't submit.

113:12

>> Yeah, they asked me to.

113:14

>> Yeah, I was like one of like six

113:16

candidates. It's They took the top

113:18

people. They basically just took the top

113:21

people of the charts, but which, you

113:23

know, it's fine.

113:24

>> First of all, Amy Puller's podcast is

113:25

pretty good.

113:26

>> I haven't seen it.

113:26

>> It's pretty good.

113:27

>> I'm sure it's good. It won. I'm sure

113:29

someone must love it. It sucked. They

113:31

would give it to someone else, right?

113:32

>> Dax is really good. Like there's there's

113:34

some great podcast who was even

113:35

nominated. I don't even know who was in.

113:37

I just know that Amy Puller won and a

113:38

lot of people are upset. She's had a

113:40

podcast for six months and she won.

113:42

Great. You gave it to a famous person

113:44

which you know in that world that's what

113:47

they do. They give it to per a person

113:49

that like is going to look you give it

113:51

to Amy Polar amongst their circles. It's

113:53

not going to have any criticism. Look,

113:55

there's a lot of really good [ __ ]

113:56

podcasts. There's some great

113:57

>> I don't know if amongst her group, if I

114:00

listen to all of them, I would decide

114:01

that hers is number one. But I just know

114:03

that I didn't submit. I don't want to be

114:05

a part of that. I don't care. You're

114:07

just a group of people that just decide

114:09

all of a sudden that you're going to

114:11

give an award out. You got a you get a

114:13

trophy. [ __ ] off, dude.

114:17

I this Okay. Like, so when we did the

114:20

show and everyone's like, "Are you

114:22

looking for a season two?" And I

114:23

obviously that would be great, but you

114:25

know what I said to Leanne the day after

114:27

it came out? I said, "I think I already

114:29

won. I think I like I got everything I

114:32

wanted. I did something I'm proud of and

114:34

and people responding to it. People like

114:36

the texts I get are people that will

114:38

never pro promote it on their social."

114:39

>> Ron White loves it.

114:40

>> Ron loved it.

114:41

>> When Ron came in last night

114:44

>> and the first thing he said to me was,

114:45

"I watched your show. I watched every

114:47

[ __ ] episode."

114:48

>> Yeah. He binged it. He binged it with

114:50

his girlfriend. I was like, "Joe, you

114:52

know how I feel about Ron. I'll get

114:53

emotional." He's like, "And Ron's not a

114:55

[ __ ] artist. If Ron loved it, he

114:57

loved it." And he came in and he was

114:59

ranting and raving about it. That's all

115:00

you need. Just do your best. All these

115:03

awards and all this [ __ ] Awards for art

115:05

are crazy.

115:06

>> It's insane because it's not It

115:08

shouldn't be a competition.

115:09

>> Well, it's also so subjective. There is

115:11

music that like my daughter loves. It is

115:15

her favorite music, but she's a

115:17

15year-old girl. [laughter]

115:20

I can't say it sucks cuz it doesn't

115:23

suck. It's just not for me.

115:25

>> Yeah.

115:25

>> You know what I mean? It's like that's

115:27

why awards for art are crazy. Like this

115:30

is the best. Like to who? To a group of

115:34

[ __ ] people that we deem the

115:36

gatekeepers of all that's appropriate.

115:38

Like

115:38

>> So when did you come because you know

115:40

I'm I'm always fascinated by you. When

115:42

did you care about ratings when you were

115:44

on news radio?

115:46

>> Oh no. Well, the news radio thing was

115:48

hilarious because that's one that I can

115:50

say for people that haven't watched it,

115:52

I I would say binge that show. It was

115:55

such an amazing piece of of art. We

115:58

would say, but o always and respectfully

116:01

always in the losing category. Like

116:02

never always

116:03

>> always in the losing category.

116:05

>> My friend Lou, he was one of the writers

116:06

on on news radio and he would show up

116:09

for the table read with a t-shirt that

116:12

had the number of our rating on it. And

116:15

one day he showed up and the number was

116:16

88. And I was like 88. He's like

116:19

[laughter] I'm like [ __ ]

116:22

I was like God because we got moved nine

116:24

times over the course of 5 years.

116:26

>> Like I remember like one of the things

116:28

that just like social media poisons

116:31

people back then it was Variety and the

116:34

Hollywood Reporter. So all of the cast

116:36

would be sitting around reading variety

116:38

about how good Sex in the City was doing

116:40

and the single guy and you know because

116:42

they would they would sandwich them in

116:44

between Friends and Seinfeld and you

116:47

know Paul Sims the producer of news

116:48

radio would call it a [ __ ] sandwich

116:50

because you would have these two really

116:51

good shows in between these shows that

116:53

were not that good.

116:54

>> They would call it Caroline and the

116:55

Shitty and it like everybody was upset

116:58

and so they would read these these

117:01

things in Variety. They'd look at the

117:03

ratings and they'd get all upset and

117:04

start getting pissed off and that show

117:06

sucks. Why is that show doing so well?

117:08

Why aren't we on Thursday night? And I I

117:11

remember saying, "Go, last time I

117:12

checked, I'm on TV." I go, "Do you know

117:15

we're on a TV show? Do you know how few

117:17

people get to be on a sitcom?" I go,

117:19

"Yeah, we're not number one." Well,

117:20

good. Then no one knows who we are and

117:22

we get to be on TV and we get to have

117:24

fun and some people enjoy it. We're

117:26

making so much money. Like, how can you

117:28

be upset? We could not be on TV. Like,

117:31

yeah, we're not number one. Yeah, we

117:32

have a really good show that's not being

117:34

recognized. It eventually was recognized

117:36

when it went to syndication. So, news

117:38

radio really only got popular in

117:40

syndication.

117:40

>> Oh, when it was on A&E, buddy, I don't

117:44

think I've ever enjoyed a TV show out of

117:46

every TV show I've ever watched. And I I

117:48

was late to Friends. Look, it was it was

117:50

no Game of Thrones, but or or even Queen

117:52

of Dragons or whatever the [ __ ] the

117:53

other one, House of Dragons. Yeah,

117:54

that's a pretty good show, too. But when

117:56

I discovered news radio, I was like, you

117:59

guys had every character. Like it was

118:04

not just one character. It was five

118:08

different

118:09

>> Are we back?

118:09

>> Yeah, we're back.

118:11

>> We've we've been having this problem

118:12

where we crash like a couple hours into

118:14

a podcast. But it was such you it was it

118:18

was five personalities, six

118:19

personalities all working in in in union

118:24

different at different speeds every such

118:27

a [ __ ] great show.

118:28

>> Well, Paul Sims came from the Larry

118:29

Sanders show, so he was really good, you

118:32

know, and it was just a brilliant guy

118:33

and the writers were amazing and the

118:35

cast was amazing, but it was the perfect

118:37

scenario. So, we went through it without

118:39

everyone getting famous. We put together

118:42

a great show and then we [ __ ] sailed

118:44

off into the sunset. It was perfect for

118:46

me because I never wanted to do it again

118:47

once it was over. For real?

118:49

>> Yeah. I didn't I mean I took a few

118:51

development deals afterwards just cuz I

118:53

wanted the money and I thought maybe

118:54

I'll make my own show and it'll be good.

118:56

But gh working with these writers and

118:58

like some of these some of these writing

119:00

teams was really interesting. Writing

119:02

teams are generally one brilliant guy

119:05

and then the other guy who writes things

119:07

down and then they both get deals and

119:10

then I would wind up with the guy who

119:12

wrote things down. So I got one of these

119:14

writers who was a writing team on

119:15

Seinfeld and the team broke up and then

119:17

I got this guy and he wrote this [ __ ]

119:19

script. It was so bad. It was so bad. I

119:23

couldn't believe how bad it was. I was

119:24

like and then they were trying to

119:26

pretend they're excited about I go did

119:27

you read it? I this is [ __ ] terrible.

119:29

Because the problem was I'd come from

119:31

News Radio which was a really good show

119:33

and [clears throat] most of these shows

119:35

are terrible and most of the guys that I

119:37

knew that were doing terrible sitcoms

119:40

were living in hell

119:41

>> because they were doing these like corny

119:43

ass and all they wanted to do is like

119:44

figure out a way to make themselves feel

119:46

better. So they spend money or they

119:48

party and that's what they were doing.

119:49

They were all just partying and spending

119:51

money and not enjoying their work. Their

119:53

work was terrible. It was hell. So, I

119:56

kind of realized early on that this trap

119:59

of like chasing the number one ratings

120:02

and all that [ __ ] It was just stupid.

120:04

It was just nonsense. And then, you

120:06

know, Fear Factor was number one for a

120:08

while, I think. I think it was. It was

120:10

hugely popular, whatever it was. And

120:12

that was weird, too. It's like, well,

120:14

that's that's also strange now talk

120:17

about it and everybody it was just like

120:18

this thing that was everywhere. It was

120:20

very strange.

120:21

>> This is how you can tell how big a show

120:22

is. Tell me if I'm wrong. I can remember

120:24

what night it aired on Monday nights.

120:27

>> Uh, Fear Factor.

120:28

>> Was it Monday nights?

120:29

>> I don't remember. I think it was Monday.

120:31

>> I don't remember.

120:32

>> I remember The Fresh Prince of Bair was

120:34

Monday nights. [laughter]

120:36

>> I remember Seinfeld was Thursdays,

120:39

right?

120:39

>> Yeah.

120:40

>> That's the thing about about uh TV now,

120:43

which is so bizarre, is like

120:46

>> when when I pitched this show, I Have

120:48

you seen Slow Horses?

120:50

>> Yes. I love it. So when I went to when I

120:52

went to Netflix, they were like, "We

120:53

want to do a show with you." I was like,

120:54

"Great."

120:55

>> And they're like, "What's the show?" I

120:56

says, "It's my family. It's I'm Bert

120:58

Chryser, George and Isla, Leanne. I'm a

121:01

comedian. I'm me. I'm Everything's the

121:03

same. Nothing changes. I don't have a

121:04

job. I'm this guy."

121:06

>> And they're like, "Okay." I go, "But it

121:08

it's uh meet slow horses." And they're

121:10

like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking

121:11

about?" I said, "All I can tell you is I

121:14

don't want to do episodic. I want slow

121:16

horses." I said when I watch slow and

121:18

this is why Ron's compliment was so kind

121:20

because I c I created the show so that

121:22

me Jared and Andy I should

121:24

>> explain Slow Horses.

121:25

>> Slow Horses is Gary Oldman. It is a spy

121:27

thriller. They're a group of of like

121:30

lowgrade spies that all kind of got put

121:32

into an office off to the side and but

121:34

they don't realize how important their

121:36

office still is. They're still very

121:38

ingrained in all the [ __ ] that the big

121:40

office is doing, but they're the B team.

121:42

And so the big office is constantly

121:44

[ __ ] with the little office. And

121:45

>> so how is your show like Slow Horses?

121:47

>> The day I watched Slow I'd watched Slow

121:49

Horses the week before I went in for

121:51

this meeting and I watched the the first

121:54

episode of Slow Horses. And at the very

121:56

end of that first episode, I hit pause.

121:58

I looked at Leanne. I said, "We're

122:00

watching every [ __ ] episode until

122:01

it's over right now. We're not moving.

122:03

We're going to watch all of them." And I

122:05

did that with that and Black Doss. And I

122:06

said to Netflix, I said, I want to make

122:09

this where that first episode, it's not

122:11

episodic. The Chrysers get a horse, the

122:12

Chrysers get a dog.

122:13

>> It all goes together.

122:14

>> I go, the first episode at that last

122:16

line I say, the very last line of that

122:19

first episode, I want you to look at the

122:20

person you're with and go, I'm watching

122:22

all [ __ ] six.

122:23

>> And uh and so it's an arc. It's a six

122:26

story arc. It's basically

122:27

>> a two hour and 30 minute movie that you

122:30

can stop at any point. And and the

122:32

compliment I've been getting is the one

122:33

Ron gave me is like, I binged it. I

122:35

watched all of it.

122:36

>> That's great. That's a smart move for a

122:38

comedy to do it like that. Like it's one

122:40

big story, you know.

122:42

>> That last that last

122:43

>> Black Doss is great, too.

122:44

>> Black Doss.

122:45

>> Great,

122:45

>> dude. Black Doss. Black Doss. When we

122:48

when we did the premiere and in LA,

122:50

Netflix came up to me and shout out to

122:52

Netflix and they were like, you know,

122:54

when you pitched this, we had no idea

122:55

what you were [ __ ] selling us. Like

122:57

when you said Black Doss and and Slow

122:59

Horses, like that those were your comps.

123:02

And then they were like, we watched that

123:03

first episode. And they're like, "You

123:04

[ __ ] did it." Like, you made a show

123:07

where at that very end of that first

123:08

episode, at that moment, and the very

123:11

beginning of the second episode, I have

123:12

a joke about you, but uh I thought I'd

123:14

throw one in. You th you gave me a

123:15

little love in your special. I give

123:17

[laughter] you a little love back. And

123:19

so, at the very end of that first

123:20

episode, I wanted it so that you go,

123:22

"Oh, this guy's [ __ ] I got to see how

123:24

he gets out of this."

123:26

>> And uh and that's the the compliment

123:28

I've been getting from people is that

123:30

they watched all of them. They binged

123:31

it. And that's like I was like cuz you

123:34

know you try to do something a little

123:36

different.

123:37

>> And uh and that's why when you said that

123:40

you didn't submit I [ __ ] connected so

123:43

hard cuz I was like I I didn't I don't

123:46

need it to be it's not going to be the

123:47

number one show on Netflix. It's never

123:49

going to be the the greatest show they

123:50

ever made. There's too many good shows.

123:52

But the fact that people have liked it I

123:54

go I think I won. I think I got the

123:56

thing I wanted was just like I got I got

123:59

a tech I got a text. I I'm going to

124:00

share this and I apologize Luke if this

124:02

sounds weird. Luke Colmes texted me last

124:05

night. Now he's not like a he's you know

124:07

he's [clears throat] not a social media

124:08

guy. He just texted me. He's like,

124:10

"Dude, I just watched your entire show."

124:11

Luke Colmes. And I'm like,

124:13

>> he's cool as [ __ ]

124:14

>> He's cool.

124:14

>> I've hung out with that dude a few times

124:16

>> as [ __ ] And he's understated. He's the

124:17

guy. He's fascinating to me because he's

124:20

a guy, we just did a podcast. He's the

124:22

guy that he goes into the room and he's

124:24

not going to talk to anyone cuz he

124:25

doesn't want to bother you. He's one of

124:27

the biggest stars in country music. He's

124:29

one of the most talented guys

124:30

>> and he's very humble and he's like I did

124:32

the CAMAs and I saw him and he just he

124:35

stays to himself. He doesn't and I was

124:36

like wow what a slick dude and he's like

124:38

no I'm not trying to be slick I just

124:39

don't want to bother anybody. Yeah.

124:41

>> And so when Luke Colmes texted me last

124:43

night I [ __ ] I texted Leanne. I was

124:46

like can you believe like that's not the

124:48

guy you think

124:49

>> right? It's a real compliment not from

124:52

like a cheesy ass kisser dude.

124:55

>> He really you know he's not lying. He

124:57

really liked it.

124:58

>> The first person to text was Chris

124:59

Dphano and that's a real one. He's like,

125:02

"Dude, you're you're a good actor. This

125:04

is a great series." That was the very

125:06

first text I got and I was like, "Comics

125:08

don't have to text. They don't we don't

125:10

like like I texted Shane when I saw

125:12

Tires cuz it's [ __ ] it was game

125:14

changer." I was like, "This is [ __ ]

125:16

incredible." Whatever. But when a comic

125:19

text, you're like, "That's okay." Like,

125:21

I didn't I didn't expect you to watch

125:23

it. But Luke Holmes [ __ ] floored me.

125:25

Luke Clolomes and Bradley Cooper was

125:28

another one.

125:28

>> That's awesome. Just do something that

125:31

you enjoy and do your best at it. This

125:33

idea of awards.

125:34

>> Yeah.

125:35

>> Like [ __ ] off.

125:36

>> [ __ ] off with your awards like that.

125:38

It's like there's so many moments in in

125:40

history have been defined by these like

125:42

goofy ass awards.

125:44

>> Yeah.

125:44

>> Like what? What is that?

125:47

>> The only thing that's good is it like if

125:49

something wins an Academy Award for best

125:51

movie, I go maybe I'll see it like

125:52

occasionally. But you know what's better

125:54

than that? one of my friends saying it's

125:56

great dude

125:57

>> you know and or someone posting on

125:59

social media like oh this [ __ ] someone

126:00

that I respect on social media posting

126:03

it and saying hey you need to watch this

126:04

this is amazing

126:05

>> do you ever see the movie American movie

126:08

>> what is that

126:08

>> it's about the two guys in Wisconsin

126:10

trying to make a horror film called

126:12

coven

126:14

I think I did this a long time ago

126:15

>> long time ago documentary and there one

126:17

guy's done way too much acid

126:20

>> and it's just it's like one of those

126:22

movies where someone says to you you

126:24

have to see this

126:25

>> and it's never going to win an award.

126:27

Probably made no money, but it is the

126:30

most fascinating. Okay, Jamie, can you

126:32

pull the trailer up for that? If you if

126:33

you see this, you'll go, I've saw it.

126:35

>> Okay.

126:36

>> It's the American movie Mike. Oh, what

126:39

was the other guys? Oh, this is so good.

126:41

Joe card,

126:42

>> imagine a world where passion and

126:44

perseverance outweigh polish and dreams

126:46

are both the driving force and the

126:48

destination. What if I told you this

126:51

world exists? Not in some far-flung

126:53

fantasy, but here in the heartland of

126:55

America.

126:57

>> This world is seen through the lens of

126:58

an unsung documentary where we meet Mark

127:01

Bochart

127:02

filmmaker from Wisconsin.

127:04

>> This is No, I didn't see this.

127:08

>> Joe, this movie,

127:11

>> maybe [snorts] I did. I don't know.

127:12

>> Is so good. But it's one of those things

127:14

that it's like when you find something

127:16

that you just fall in love with like

127:18

Yeah. like uh that that you can't

127:20

explain to someone like Vernon, Florida.

127:22

Have you ever seen Vernon Florida?

127:24

>> No.

127:24

>> It's a documentary by Verer Herzog about

127:27

it was trying to him and another guy

127:28

another guy did it. He was trying to do

127:30

a documentary called Nub City, right? It

127:32

was about this place in Florida where a

127:34

lot of people had lost limbs and were

127:35

collecting insurance money.

127:37

>> And he went in to do a documentary about

127:40

that and he got his life threatened but

127:43

he had all this footage. So I think

127:45

Verer Herzog came in and dumped a little

127:48

money in it and he just made the

127:50

bizarest documentary about a guy talking

127:53

about turkey hunting and another guy

127:56

talking about like it's like four

127:57

different personalities. Joe, it's on

127:59

YouTube. You can find it. Herszog does

128:01

some amazing [ __ ]

128:02

>> Amazing [ __ ] This thing Joe is like

128:05

something you start watching and you go

128:06

like I can't turn it off.

128:08

>> I mean he did Grizzly Man. He did uh

128:12

[sighs] [ __ ] what is that other one?

128:14

Um the one about the cave paintings in

128:17

France he did say

128:19

>> it was made by Errol Morris.

128:20

>> Errol Morris wasn't Warner Herszog.

128:22

>> No no he was

128:23

>> trying to highlight on there. It says

128:24

it's an Errol Morris film.

128:25

>> Oh so it's not Warner.

128:26

>> No Vernog backed it. He was the one that

128:28

paid for it. I see. I see.

128:30

>> He produced it.

128:31

>> He was also Werner Herszog was a part of

128:33

that movie Happy People. You ever see

128:36

that?

128:36

>> No. Was that

128:36

>> Oh my god. It's about these people that

128:38

live in Siberia. these these guys that

128:40

live in a small village in Siberia and

128:42

they're just fishermen and trappers and

128:44

hunters and they they basically just

128:47

live off the land and and they're so

128:50

happy. There's like no mental illness.

128:52

Everybody works really hard. It's

128:54

freezing cold at night. They're always

128:55

drinking and everyone's happy like and

128:58

it's called Happy People Life in the

129:00

Tiger. It's a great documentary because

129:02

it just shows you that like without

129:04

struggle you will create struggle and

129:06

when you have struggle all the time like

129:09

physical struggle people seem to be

129:11

satisfied and happy especially when

129:13

they're living off the land living like

129:15

a subsistence lifestyle. They're out in

129:16

the forest. They're catching fish and

129:19

it's it's a great documentary. It's

129:21

really interesting.

129:22

>> Did you feel it? Cuz I remember we went

129:23

to birthday party at your house and your

129:25

wife introduced my girls and Leanne to

129:26

chickens.

129:27

>> Mhm.

129:28

>> And Leanne and the girls immediately got

129:31

chickens.

129:32

>> Chickens are awesome.

129:32

>> The happiest my family was out of all

129:35

the times we've been happy was when they

129:37

were they had a garden and they were

129:38

raising chickens.

129:39

>> Yeah. It's good for you, man.

129:40

>> And then that that like extra like did

129:42

you guys clean out the chicken coop? You

129:44

need to clean like that little

129:46

>> Yeah. Work.

129:46

>> Yeah.

129:47

>> Work's good for you.

129:48

>> Yeah. Especially work that pays off.

129:50

Like you actually get eggs and you have

129:51

to eat those eggs.

129:52

>> Those eggs

129:53

>> and that that's like the most karmafree

129:55

food that you'll ever get cuz they're

129:56

your pets. Like you treat them well. You

129:59

feed them. You're like, "Hey girls, I

130:00

see them. I talk to them. They I lift

130:03

rocks for them." So they go under the

130:05

rocks and pick out bugs and worms and

130:06

[ __ ]

130:07

>> And they they come near you. They like

130:09

waddle over to you when they and you

130:10

like get you ready. You ready? You pick

130:12

up the rock and they immediately go in

130:13

there and try to get the worms and bugs

130:15

and [ __ ] And then you get these

130:17

delicious, healthy eggs. Best eggs I've

130:19

ever had in my entire life. Yellow.

130:21

>> Yellow. Double. I remember getting

130:23

>> orange. Do you remember double yolks?

130:26

>> You get double yolks. [ __ ] off.

130:27

>> But you're you're you know exactly how

130:30

they're raised. There's no cruelty

130:32

involved. You know how they're fed. They

130:33

lay an egg every day. That egg is never

130:35

going to become a chicken. You never

130:36

like that's what I tell to all my

130:38

friends that are like vegetarians that

130:39

are doing it for like they they're just

130:42

kind people. They don't want an animal

130:44

to die. I'm like you don't have to kill

130:45

an animal. Just eat eggs. Eggs have all

130:47

the nutrients you need. Eat the yolk,

130:49

eat the whole thing and you'll you'll be

130:52

super healthy. Like you can get all the

130:54

animal protein you need from eggs and

130:56

you don't ever have to worry about an

130:58

animal dying.

130:58

>> So wait, do you think then when you talk

131:00

about what was that happy city is it

131:01

called?

131:02

>> Happy people. Do you think your

131:04

connection then to crushing it in the

131:05

gym and killing it in the gym is

131:07

directly connected to that struggle

131:10

direct like the happiest I ever am is

131:13

the second my workout's done and I lay

131:15

back and I just sweat.

131:17

>> You did it. Oh

131:18

>> yeah, you did it. Your body needs a I

131:20

think in order for your body to survive

131:24

like when we were hunter gatherers, you

131:26

had to do a bunch of work. So, I think

131:29

there's human reward systems that are

131:31

built in us that if you don't meet those

131:33

requirements, your body gets anxious.

131:35

And the most anxietyridden,

131:38

[ __ ] up, mentally ill people I know

131:40

are these lazy slobs that are online all

131:44

day complaining about people, especially

131:46

comics. I know so many comics that they

131:48

spend

131:49

>> a giant chunk of their day [ __ ] on

131:51

other comics and they're all fat and

131:52

lazy. And what is that? Well, it's

131:55

because they're not healthy. They're not

131:56

mentally healthy, physically healthy.

131:59

>> And so they're completely obsessed with

132:01

other things, external things. You know,

132:04

when we did that sober October

132:05

challenge, Tommy said it best cuz he was

132:07

like, "Dude, when you work out, when

132:09

we're all competing against each other

132:11

to see who got the the highest fitness

132:13

scores, Tommy said it best, like when

132:15

you work out all day, it kills all that

132:17

internal chatter." Like, you don't worry

132:20

about things anymore. Oh, that what

132:21

about this, what about that? That what

132:23

about this, what about that [ __ ] Is

132:24

your mind thinking that there's threats

132:26

out there in the world? Because there

132:29

used to be cuz you're programmed to

132:31

think about like what's out there?

132:33

What's coming for me? Where the is there

132:35

a neighboring tribe that's coming over

132:36

the top of the hill? Where am I going to

132:37

get my food? There's all that stuff's

132:39

built in as a human reward system. If

132:42

you don't meet that human reward system,

132:43

you're just doomcrolling on Tik Tok and

132:46

Twitter all day and [ __ ] on people.

132:49

[ __ ] Whitney Cummings and Miss Rachel

132:52

was in the They're just mentally ill

132:55

slobs, all of them. And their opinion

132:58

should be dismissed. That's why the idea

133:00

of awards is so ridiculous. Who are

133:02

these people that are giving you awards?

133:04

They're all unhealthy people for the

133:06

most part. They're all weirdos that are

133:08

caught up in this [ __ ] bizarre,

133:11

strange industry that rewards group

133:15

think. Like, [ __ ] off. Yeah, that's

133:18

probably the the probably the happiest

133:21

my mind was when when we had the the

133:22

year we had the straps.

133:25

>> Remember we had that we were a member of

133:27

that Kansas City workout club or

133:29

something.

133:29

>> Yeah. We had to become Yeah. The My

133:31

Zone. The My Zone Fitness Straps. Yeah.

133:34

>> And I remember I mean I you know like

133:36

you have memories in your head where you

133:37

like you drive by a place and you go I

133:40

remember that. And it was one night I I

133:43

said I was I was going to run a marathon

133:46

and you're like I'll match it. I

133:47

remember we were all texting and I I

133:50

remember getting up at like it was like

133:51

put the girls to bed. It's 9:00 at night

133:53

and I go I'm going to run until midnight

133:56

and I had just this one [ __ ] mile

133:58

loop and I ran eight miles that night

134:00

and I just kept running and I cannot run

134:02

down [ __ ] KFax. I can't drive down

134:05

Kfax without thinking of me just going

134:07

one more lap. Just one more lap. Yeah,

134:10

>> those those were [ __ ]

134:12

>> wearing yourself out is good for your

134:14

brain, man.

134:14

>> It really good for your brain.

134:16

>> I don't think we should do that again

134:17

because the problem with that is that

134:19

lit up that weird part of my brain, that

134:22

obsessive part of my brain and my my

134:24

wife asked me never to do that again.

134:26

Like cuz I was like super serious. I got

134:30

like really into it

134:31

>> and it it just became an obsession.

134:34

>> Yeah. It's just it's a it's a dangerous

134:36

part of my own brain that I can't

134:38

entertain too much because I think

134:41

that's the part of my brain that was

134:42

formulated in my competition days where

134:45

it was like my thought was, you know,

134:48

like I would go to the gym because I had

134:49

keys to the school. So I'd go and train

134:52

at 2 o'clock in the morning because I

134:53

knew nobody else was. I knew everybody

134:55

else was asleep. So I'd go there, I'd

134:57

drive there by myself and unlock the

134:59

doors and start training at 2 o'clock in

135:01

the morning because I knew everybody was

135:02

asleep.

135:02

>> Yeah. That that made me feel better.

135:04

Like, [ __ ] while you're sleeping, I'm

135:06

in here. You know,

135:07

>> where did you put that competitiveness?

135:09

Because I I shelved my competitiveness.

135:12

I don't have it in comedy. I I have a

135:14

competitiveness with the industry that I

135:17

felt ignored me at times. Like, I have I

135:19

want to prove things like I did fully

135:22

loaded because I never got on oddball.

135:24

>> And so, I I created that festival. I

135:26

remember I was with uh we were at at the

135:28

Forest Hills Arena or whatever the

135:30

outdoor stadium. Someone's like, "Wow,

135:33

this is crazy. Can you believe you did

135:34

this?" And I went, "Yeah." And they're

135:36

like, "What made you want to do this?" I

135:37

go, "Because no one would ever invite

135:38

me." [laughter] And then they were like,

135:40

"Wow, that was more of an answer than we

135:42

expected." But like, and so there's a

135:44

competitiveness with me internally, but

135:48

I was very competitive as an athlete,

135:51

like unhealthy. And it was gross.

135:54

>> How was it gross? Like what sports?

135:56

>> By anything, anything I did. Anything.

135:59

>> That's Michael Jordan, right? When

136:00

you're talking about Michael Jordan, he

136:01

was the most health Michael Jordan and

136:02

Kelly Slater, the two ones, Tiger Woods,

136:05

that I hear about and I identify with

136:07

the way their brain works where I go,

136:09

oh, I have that grossness where I create

136:12

scenarios in my head to go, that's it.

136:14

I'm going to [ __ ] I' I'd build up a

136:16

rivalry with I have a guy that I think

136:18

about to this day who played baseball at

136:20

Tampa Catholic. His name was Israel. And

136:22

I had a competitive The guy doesn't even

136:23

know who the [ __ ] I am. He never knew

136:25

me. He was a pitcher for and I [ __ ]

136:28

and I and I apologize, Israel, if you're

136:30

hearing this right now. We were 16 and I

136:32

had a competitiveness in my head and my

136:34

goal was to hit him to hit a line drive

136:37

right back in and and he was a pitcher

136:39

and he threw inside and I crushed one

136:41

off his kneecap and they pulled him out

136:42

of the game and I stood on first base

136:44

and I was like that's how it goes.

136:45

[laughter]

136:47

>> Israel was 53 years old right now. That

136:50

was my [ __ ]

136:50

>> trap is to hit him with a line drive so

136:53

competitive and so I I and I and when I

136:57

got into standup I maybe because I just

137:01

I saw that so many people were so far

137:04

beyond me that I was like well I'm not

137:06

playing their game I guess so I'm not I

137:08

never had a competitiveness in standup.

137:10

>> Well you can't well you can listen you

137:13

could there's a good place for

137:14

competitiveness. I mean, I I am

137:16

competitive, no doubt. But I don't think

137:18

about it in terms of like art.

137:21

>> Yeah.

137:21

>> I think my competition with either

137:23

standup or with podcasting is to be the

137:27

best I can be to do the best job I can.

137:30

Like if I have a guy on and he's wants

137:32

to talk about some science stuff or

137:34

something like esoteric or weird, I have

137:36

to read his book or listen to the audio

137:38

book. I have to read articles. I have to

137:41

get in. I have to do my best. this guy's

137:43

gonna fly in here from Europe or

137:45

whatever it is, I have to be ready and I

137:47

have to be intrigued. And the only

137:49

reason why I have him on the podcast in

137:51

the first place is because I'm

137:52

interested in it. So my my thing is just

137:56

do the best that I can. And the the way

137:58

that I could do it the best I can is

137:59

only talk to people that I want to talk

138:01

to. Only reach out to people that I'm

138:03

actually interested in. Only accept

138:05

invitations of someone that ignites my

138:06

curiosity. And just only do it that way.

138:09

never say, "Oh, this person would be

138:11

great because they're famous." Like,

138:12

that's one of the things you see about

138:13

some of these podcasts that are doing

138:15

well. All of their guests are famous,

138:18

right? Which is like a built-in cheat

138:19

code. Like, let's see what this guy and

138:21

I have famous people on all the time. If

138:23

I think they're interesting, if I want

138:25

to talk to them, but I pass on a lot of

138:28

famous people because I'm not interested

138:30

in them or because they were like really

138:32

heavily pushing the vaccine during the

138:35

pandemic. I'm like, "Fuck you forever.

138:37

[ __ ] you. Yeah,

138:38

>> there's a few people that have tried to

138:39

get on. I'm like, no, I would have

138:41

before the pandemic, I would have been

138:42

happy to have you on, but now I'm like,

138:44

[ __ ] you forever. You who who knows how

138:47

many people you caused to have heart

138:48

attacks. Who knows how many people you

138:49

tricked into getting that and they had a

138:51

stroke. Who knows? Who knows? And they

138:53

didn't need it. Especially the people

138:55

that already got COVID. You didn't know

138:56

what you were talking about and you just

138:58

bootlicked. You bootlick for the [ __ ]

139:00

for the man. Like, [ __ ] you. Like,

139:04

that's it. But other than that,

139:06

everybody else, it's like, who is it?

139:09

What do they want to talk about? So, I

139:10

just do my best. You know, I'm

139:12

competitive when it comes to playing

139:13

pool. But really, the pool, you're

139:15

playing against yourself. You're playing

139:17

another person and the other person is

139:19

do. But when you're playing, nobody can

139:22

block you. Nobody gets in front of you.

139:24

You're just trying to do your best. So,

139:26

it's all against you. All the

139:28

competition is against you. Which is why

139:30

I like to work out by myself. I'm I'm

139:32

playing against me, you know? It's me.

139:35

It's like it's whatever my inside little

139:38

inner [ __ ] is. I'm trying to squash

139:40

that [ __ ] down, beat his ass

139:42

again, and then he's back again

139:44

tomorrow. Every time I lift the [ __ ]

139:46

lid on that coal punch, my inner [ __ ]

139:48

is like, "Don't do it. You don't have to

139:50

do this. You could not do it and we'll

139:52

be fine." Like the other day it was 22

139:53

degrees outside and I had to break the

139:56

ice off of the top of the thing cuz it

139:57

was like covered in ice. I break the ice

139:59

off because I got I couldn't barely lift

140:01

the lid off the [ __ ] thing. try to

140:03

knock off all the ice and then pick it

140:05

up and climb on in. I'm like, "Fuck

140:08

you." And this is like it's [ __ ] you to

140:10

the inner [ __ ]

140:11

>> dude. It's like when you said like I

140:13

remember doing an interview with a guy

140:14

when he was getting I got a Netflix

140:16

special coming out. I'm going to go out

140:17

on the road for the next couple weeks

140:18

and I was like couple weeks

140:19

>> couple weeks

140:20

>> couple weeks I'm gone. I don't I'm not

140:22

home for one month. I'm the one month

140:25

out I'm in my bus every night doing

140:28

stand up. 18 months out. I'm like

140:31

obsessive. Yeah.

140:32

>> Obsess. I've got I'm not shooting my

140:34

next one until 2027. And I'm obsessive

140:37

today. Last night I was like I tried all

140:40

my new [ __ ] I was like I got to find

140:41

out if real people laugh at this,

140:43

>> you know? Like I mean my fans my fans I

140:46

think [snorts] my fans are are willing

140:47

to give me an inch, you know?

140:49

>> Well, they also know you. They know your

140:50

story. They know all the references.

140:53

>> Yeah.

140:53

>> But but what's crazy to me is like we

140:55

were me and you. Not I I can't speak for

140:58

the younger comics, but we were in a ye

141:01

a time at standup when competitiveness

141:04

was the norm. It was because of TV

141:06

though, dude. That was what it was. It

141:08

was like everybody thought they were

141:09

competing for a very small amount of

141:11

slots. And then what happened was the

141:13

internet came along and we realized that

141:15

no, in fact, we're actually an asset to

141:19

each other cuz we do each other's

141:21

podcast, we hang out with each other,

141:22

which makes each other better. when

141:24

we're all on a show together and you're

141:26

killing and Tom's killing and Ari's

141:28

killing, the more people are killing,

141:29

the more we're going to do better

141:31

because we're going to get excited about

141:32

it. Yeah. And we'll be inspired. And so

141:34

we became valuable to each other instead

141:36

of competitive against each other. And

141:38

if there was any competition that you

141:40

were having among with your friends, it

141:42

was actually healthy competition because

141:44

it just made you try harder. Like if you

141:46

saw if Ari went up and did like when Ari

141:48

did his juice special, which [ __ ]

141:50

incredible, that special was so good. It

141:52

made so many people get inspired to work

141:55

on a theme and write and like really try

141:58

to develop something. Like look at what

141:59

he did. He just like put together this

142:01

[ __ ] incredible special. Like it was

142:03

really [ __ ] good. And that kind of

142:06

competition is healthy competition. It's

142:08

inspirational. Instead of like saying,

142:09

"I hope that guy gets hit by a bus. [ __ ]

142:11

him." All these slobs that are on

142:14

Twitter and that are talking [ __ ] about

142:16

comedians and are angry about comedians,

142:18

they have one thing in common. They're

142:20

almost all failures. They're either

142:24

failures or they're extremely mediocre.

142:26

>> Yeah.

142:27

>> They're in the middle of like mediocrity

142:29

that no one's no one's got them as their

142:32

favorite comedian. No one's got them as

142:34

their favorite podcaster. No one's got

142:35

them as anything. They just don't do

142:37

that well. So what do they do? They're

142:38

attacking people. So their

142:40

competitiveness is a very unhealthy

142:41

competitiveness. if their

142:43

competitiveness was healthy, they would

142:44

say, "Well, what is it about this person

142:46

where she's getting all these comedy

142:48

specials and she's in front of all these

142:50

roast? Why is Nikki Glazer doing so well

142:53

and I'm not? Instead of hating on Nikki

142:55

Glazer, you know, but that's not what

142:57

like a narcissist does. What a Well,

142:59

what about me? How come I'm not getting

143:02

that? She does talk about [ __ ] [ __ ]

143:04

that [ __ ] [ __ ] And then they get

143:06

all [ __ ] angry and they start talking

143:07

[ __ ] about her. Meanwhile, she still

143:08

kills it. She's still on the road. She's

143:10

still selling out. She's still getting

143:11

out there. Everybody screams and cheers.

143:13

Why? Because she put in the work. And if

143:16

you put in the work and if you looked at

143:18

yourself and you objectively analyzed

143:20

what you're doing and said, "Why is this

143:21

going well? Why is this not going well?"

143:23

and worked harder, you would be where

143:25

she is. But you're not. So what are you

143:28

doing? You're on Twitter every day for

143:30

12 hours like a [ __ ] mental patient

143:32

just [ __ ] on people and getting in

143:34

arguments and saying mean things like

143:36

you're going to just It's crabs in a

143:38

bucket. You're just trying to pull

143:39

people down that are doing better than

143:40

you. Where you going? get that down

143:42

here. That's all it is.

143:43

>> Yeah,

143:44

>> it's unhealthy. That's why you can't

143:46

read that stuff because you're you're

143:48

you absorb the atmosphere of the people

143:50

that you surround yourself with.

143:52

>> And like it or not, when you're

143:54

interacting with people on social media,

143:56

you are surrounding yourself with their

143:58

thoughts.

143:58

>> Yeah.

143:59

>> You know, and they're unhealthy people

144:00

that you would never hang out with in

144:02

real life. And if you did, if you said,

144:04

"Well, why do you think that way?" And

144:05

then they would say something like,

144:06

"That doesn't make any sense. This is

144:08

why that's not doesn't make any sense."

144:09

They'd be like,

144:11

and then they would run away and go talk

144:13

[ __ ] about you on social media because

144:15

they're cowards. Yeah.

144:16

>> So, you can't live in a world of cowards

144:19

and mental ill people. You can't. It's

144:22

not good for you.

144:22

>> It's uh when I started hanging out with

144:26

the the group I'm around now, right?

144:28

[snorts] I I want to say it was you you

144:30

were saying surround yourself with good

144:31

people. And I remember I remember

144:33

reading a quote that week and I I've

144:37

butchered it, but I said if enough you

144:39

hang out with enough great white sharks,

144:40

people think you're a great white shark.

144:42

Like I just like like all they see is

144:44

the fin,

144:45

>> right?

144:45

>> And it's like if I hang out with the

144:47

best [ __ ] comics in the world, if I

144:49

surround myself with the best comics in

144:50

the world, I'm going to have to get

144:52

better. Yes.

144:52

>> Like I'm going to get better. And I and

144:54

I remember I can tell you like the first

144:56

time I saw your Kim or your uh your

144:58

Caitlyn Jenner joke of the of the

145:00

gargoyles,

145:01

>> the demon.

145:02

>> Yeah. And you're on the stool and you

145:03

you got the stool and the gargoyle. I

145:05

remember watching that crying, laughing

145:06

going, I'm not using the stage at all.

145:09

Like I'm not using the stage like god

145:11

damn it. Or I remember Burr doing an act

145:13

out and I never expected Burr to do an

145:15

act out. He was talking to an immigrant

145:17

kid he hired that lived in the bushes or

145:19

that he he adopted. He goes so and so is

145:21

not going to live in the house. we're

145:23

going to keep in the bushes. He said,

145:24

"Come on, man. There's a reason you're

145:25

in bushes." But he was doing an act out.

145:27

And I remember going like, "God damn it,

145:28

man. I don't ever do act outs." Like, I

145:31

think I always surrounded myself around

145:33

better comics to like see what the see

145:35

what the meal was being made and go

145:37

like, "Well, [ __ ] I'm just making

145:39

French fries. You can turn that into a

145:40

baked potato." Well, we don't exist in a

145:43

vacuum. This is one of the things that I

145:45

always say about comics. You never find

145:47

the best comic in the country or one of

145:49

the best comics in the country by

145:50

themselves in Birmingham, Alabama. No,

145:52

>> it doesn't exist. They're always in

145:54

either New York, LA, Austin. There's a

145:58

few other places where you find out

145:59

about someone really good and they're

146:01

always around other people that are

146:02

really good because comedy is one of

146:05

those things where you you you really

146:07

only experience it live. Like when you

146:09

see someone and doing a special,

146:12

specials are great, but a special is

146:14

like 60% of the real show. If you're

146:16

there in the audience, you get 100% of

146:18

the real show. You get hypnotized by by

146:20

the show. you get caught up in it. If

146:22

the guys got it together, it's like

146:25

really well pieced and timed and edited.

146:27

It's so much fun.

146:29

>> But you you got to be there. And when

146:32

you're at a club like and you see Gillis

146:35

and Ron White and like we had the

146:37

mothership, you have all these great

146:39

comics like, man, the atmosphere is just

146:41

uplifting. Everybody's inspired and

146:44

exciting. And for people that are

146:45

listening like, "Yeah, that's great for

146:47

you guys. Be [ __ ] famous comedians."

146:50

You could do this with your friends.

146:53

Whatever you're doing, I don't care what

146:54

you're doing. Whatever you're doing, if

146:56

you guys are all pickle ball players,

146:58

just work hard to be the best [ __ ]

146:59

pickle ball player. Hang out with other

147:01

pickle ball players. Talk about pickle

147:02

ball. Get involved in it. Push each

147:04

other. Tell tell each other what you're

147:06

doing that's making you better. Tell

147:08

each other what are the different things

147:09

you're doing that's enhancing your

147:11

recovery or whatever the [ __ ] you're

147:13

into. Find other people that are also

147:15

into it. surround yourself with people

147:17

that have a similar thing and you all

147:19

lift each other up

147:20

>> and it's you need the other voices cuz I

147:23

think sometimes the best jokes you tell

147:25

are like like uh you don't realize

147:27

you're telling a joke. You don't realize

147:28

it's a bit and then someone goes,

147:30

>> "Yo, man."

147:31

>> Like I remember we were doing a new

147:33

material night one night and I got off

147:35

stage and you walked up to me, you go,

147:36

"Did you really not know that Helen

147:38

Keller and Anne Frank weren't the same

147:39

person?" [laughter]

147:41

>> And I was like, "Yeah, you should think

147:42

they're the same person."

147:43

>> No. Did you you know what I've been

147:44

reading? that Helen Keller was a fraud.

147:46

>> Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Let's start here.

147:48

Okay. So, okay. I heard Stevie Wonder

147:52

could see. [laughter]

147:55

>> Okay.

147:56

And there's footage of him [snorts]

147:58

doing seeing guy [ __ ]

147:59

>> Like what?

148:00

>> Pull it up.

148:01

>> There's all sorts of stuff and some very

148:03

interesting stories people have told,

148:04

too.

148:05

>> Shut the [ __ ] up. Like there's a video.

148:07

>> That's a great secret to keep that

148:08

secret for so long while you're still

148:10

alive. Helen Keller's dead and it just

148:12

leaked out in 2026.

148:14

>> Dude, Helen Keller look

148:16

>> her doctors were saying that she

148:18

responded to stimuli to sound to visual

148:21

and then her writing was apparently all

148:24

the same grammatical errors and spelling

148:26

errors that her handler had.

148:27

>> This goes back to cubes Joe. It's just

148:30

like he says to me,

148:33

>> you you lost it all [laughter]

148:34

and you built it back. And I just I just

148:36

Stevie wondered him. I'm like, yeah, I

148:37

can't see, man. Me and Eddie Bravo were

148:39

crying, laughing cuz he cuz I was on the

148:42

toilet when he called me and uh I'm I'm

148:44

taking a [ __ ] And he's like, "Uh, did

148:46

Brock Crasher lose everything?" I'm

148:47

like, "What?

148:48

>> That was the first thing you said to

148:49

me." He goes, "He was on Shannon." I go,

148:52

"He didn't lose everything." And I go,

148:54

"I bet Shannon Sharp just said that."

148:57

And I could see Bert totally just going

148:59

with it. And we were crying, laughing.

149:01

[laughter]

149:02

Eddie Eddie and I WERE CRYING LIKE, "WHY

149:05

WOULD YOU GO WITH THAT? WHY WOULDN'T YOU

149:07

JUST TELL HIM tell you Bert wouldn't he

149:09

wouldn't even I don't know SHANNON I

149:11

JUST PULL MYSELF BACK UP AND I JUST I I

149:14

hit rock bottom. [laughter]

149:16

HE NEVER HIT ROCK BOTTOM. HE WAS NEVER

149:19

EVEN IN THE MIDDLE. HE WAS ALWAYS DOING

149:20

GREAT.

149:21

>> That's what happened to Stevie Wonder.

149:23

They were just like, "Hey man, I heard

149:24

you're blind." He's like, "What?" And

149:25

someone's like, "Just go.

149:26

>> Come on. This can't be real."

149:28

>> I swear to God, there's video of

149:30

>> Ray Charles is blind. Don't kill my all

149:32

my

149:32

>> Ray Charles is really blind. But okay,

149:34

Stevie Wonder has got a lot of [ __ ]

149:36

too.

149:36

>> Stevie Wonder,

149:37

>> you know why?

149:37

>> Cuz he didn't care what it looked like.

149:38

>> I didn't give a [laughter] [ __ ] He just

149:40

cared what it felt like. Did you smell

149:42

good? Do you smell good? Can we [ __ ]

149:44

>> I brought a blind guy on [snorts] stage

149:45

one time in Harford, Connecticut. I was

149:47

like, he was with a [ __ ] smoking hot

149:49

chick.

149:49

>> He probably didn't even know.

149:50

>> And I know. I said I go, "Dude, it's

149:51

what a waste." And he was like, "What?"

149:53

I go, "You got a beautiful chick, but

149:54

you could just I mean, wouldn't a fat

149:56

one feel better? Like, cuz [laughter]

149:57

you're all touch, right?" And he goes,

149:59

"No, man. I can feel her face." And I

150:01

went, "What?" He goes, "She's gorgeous."

150:02

She was

150:03

>> Oh, you could feel her face.

150:04

>> This is when I was young and there were

150:06

no rules in comedy and no one had

150:07

phones.

150:08

>> So I said, "Hey man, come up on stage. I

150:10

want you to feel people in the audience

150:11

and rate them on a scale of 1 to 10."

150:13

>> Oh no.

150:13

>> And [ __ ] the confidence of these

150:15

chicks. [snorts] I'll do it. Gets up.

150:18

Boy,

150:19

>> feels her face. She's like, "Oh, four."

150:21

And the crowd was like, "This guy's

150:22

good. [laughter] He could have worked at

150:24

a fair Joe." I mean, he was so [ __ ]

150:27

good. He was so good. You have to have

150:29

footage of of Stevie Wonder shaking

150:30

dude's hands. Come on.

150:32

>> He There's one where I saw where he

150:33

comes up on stage and Stevie sticks his

150:35

hand out to the side and the guy's like,

150:36

"Hey, what's up, Stevie?" There's

150:38

>> Yeah, but I mean, he would hear people

150:40

and know that they were to the side of

150:41

him.

150:42

>> I don't know. I That's what I heard. But

150:44

then I think that's what happened with

150:45

Helen Keller is right the story.

150:48

>> Well, Helen Keller seems like it was

150:50

fraud. It seems like she probably was

150:52

like visually impaired. Okay. when

150:55

someone attempted to shake hands with

150:56

Stevie Wonder. I pray this.

151:00

>> Oh, that's a joke. Making fun of it.

151:02

Okay. So, not that. But I did find So,

151:04

there's a bunch of compilations of

151:05

people like this is from Dr. Champs.

151:07

These Stevie Wonderond wonder stories

151:09

keep getting wilder every time.

151:11

>> Shout out. You ever had Drink Champs on?

151:12

>> No. Let's let me Let me hear some of

151:14

this.

151:15

>> Stevie's not blind stories. Stevie

151:17

Wonder be facetiming

151:18

>> on everything I love. Stevie Wonder does

151:21

FaceTime me.

151:22

>> COME ON, MAN.

151:24

I CAN'T MAKE THIS [ __ ] UP.

151:26

>> Come on.

151:27

>> I was in there chilling with my I was

151:28

getting my hair done with my hair

151:30

stylist. You going to tell us a story

151:31

>> and my phone and my hair stylist like,

151:33

"Did I say Stevie Wonder?" I said,

151:34

"Yep." I went boop. And he was like,

151:37

"I've been looking for you." [laughter]

151:42

>> You know, Snoop Dog say Stevie Wonders

151:44

FaceTimes him.

151:45

>> Yeah. Stevie FaceTimes me too.

151:48

[laughter]

151:49

>> Oh my god. Oh my god. Think Stevie could

151:54

see

151:54

>> sometimes.

151:56

>> What? [laughter]

151:58

>> Shaq said he rode in the elevator with

152:00

Stevie and Stevie pressed the the

152:01

button. [laughter]

152:05

>> We lived in the same building on

152:06

Wilshire.

152:07

>> All right. I need to describe the story.

152:10

>> You can park in front. You can park in

152:11

front.

152:12

>> Uhhuh.

152:12

>> Or you can park at the bottom.

152:13

>> Uhhuh.

152:14

>> I'm already in the elevator.

152:16

>> So you say Stevie got off his car?

152:18

>> No, [laughter]

152:21

but he got on the elevator. Okay.

152:23

>> And I'm standing in the corner. I see

152:24

him. I don't want to say nothing. He

152:25

like, "What up, Diesel?" [laughter]

152:27

>> Guess button. Then he got the floor. And

152:28

I'm like,

152:29

>> Shaq said he rolled in the elevator with

152:31

him. He didn't say that he was in there.

152:35

He just seen Stevie like they lived in

152:37

the same building and they they both

152:38

walked in and Shaq cuz he didn't want to

152:41

say nothing and Stevie said when Shaq

152:43

walked out. All right. Later, Diesel.

152:45

>> No, first he came in.

152:47

>> Crazy. Yeah,

152:48

>> that's cra Well, what a what a great

152:50

move that would be if he really did it.

152:52

I think he's blind.

152:53

>> No, here's it's the picture.

152:54

>> But what up, Diesel? First of all, the

152:57

sound that he would make when he walks.

152:59

>> Like the Shaq is huge.

153:02

>> He's an enormous person. So, you'

153:03

probably realize there's an enormous man

153:06

next to you.

153:06

>> You'd have to feel it,

153:07

>> right?

153:09

They probably maybe he wears the same

153:11

deodorant or cologne because dudes who

153:14

who can't see have amazing sense of

153:16

smell.

153:18

Like they people smell differently.

153:19

Yeah. You know, like certain people

153:21

smell different, I guess. I don't notice

153:23

it because I could see them, but

153:25

>> does have his own deodorant.

153:26

>> Yeah, there you go.

153:27

>> No, he has his own deodorant. Shack's

153:29

head on it. I think

153:30

>> he probably smelled Shaq's deodorant.

153:32

>> I don't know. I'm just trying to be

153:33

charitable.

153:33

>> I This is how I think it happened,

153:35

right? Stevie Wonder goes on what, Ed

153:37

Sullivan show at five. And uh and he's

153:40

probably hard. He probably can't see. He

153:42

probably don't have 2020 vision. He's

153:43

probably legally blind, right? uh

153:46

legally blind.

153:47

>> Legally blind. Like he can see [ __ ] but

153:49

it's not great vision. And they're like,

153:51

you know, uh this is little Stevie. And

153:54

he's like, "What's wrong with his eyes?

153:55

We can't [ __ ] put his eyes out like

153:56

that. Give him sunglasses."

153:58

>> And they just And then the story got

154:00

bigger than it was. I will say this. I

154:02

will say this. Okay, I got video of

154:04

this.

154:05

>> This just proves that he might be blind.

154:07

>> Okay,

154:07

>> Liam was at a concert the other night.

154:10

This guy Cory Henry's Steviey's favorite

154:12

pianist. Leanne loves Cory Henry. She

154:14

goes to the concert. She's sitting next

154:15

to Stevie Wonder and Stevie Wonder

154:17

didn't stand. The whole place was

154:18

standing. And Le was like, "Why isn't he

154:20

standing?" I go, "Cuz you only stand to

154:23

see. If you're blind, you're going to

154:24

sit through the whole show. It's no

154:25

different to you,

154:26

>> right?"

154:26

>> So I was like, and then I have video of

154:28

Stevie Wonder sitting.

154:30

>> But it's also convenient cuz who the

154:31

[ __ ] wants to stand for a show?

154:34

>> I don't.

154:35

>> Helen Keller.

154:36

>> The Helen Keller one's different.

154:37

>> The Helen Keller ones. There's doctors

154:40

that have said like there's it was

154:42

medical records at the time where people

154:44

said she was responding to light.

154:45

>> This says that [snorts] there's uh

154:47

that's not true.

154:48

>> The Helen Keller thing

154:50

um medical board archives from 1902 to

154:53

1924 do not contain examination reports

154:55

showing Helen Keller had functional

154:57

vision and hearing throughout a disabled

154:59

life. And the conspiracy that Keller was

155:01

a cash cow for Sullivan is debunked by

155:04

the fact that Keller's full life

155:06

continued with another companion, Paulie

155:08

Thompson, who also interpreted for her.

155:10

That doesn't mean anything. That means

155:12

that other person could be in on it as

155:14

well.

155:14

>> Yeah,

155:15

>> that doesn't mean anything. Also, this

155:16

is a time in 1919. I mean, come on.

155:19

>> Howard was a lie in

155:21

>> 1902 to 1924. I mean, you could get away

155:24

with so much. So, she supposedly flew a

155:27

[ __ ] plane. This says THAT

155:29

>> I TOLD YOU she

155:30

>> No, hold on. Yeah, this says it was from

155:32

like a movie and there's no

155:33

>> Oh, the movie. She flew a plane in a

155:35

movie.

155:35

>> A silent film. She played herself.

155:37

[snorts]

155:37

>> She played herself flying a plane. They

155:39

just thought people were [ __ ] back

155:40

then. They're like, "Show her flying a

155:42

plane. She's the best.

155:43

>> She started a university.

155:44

>> Nothing can hold her back. Why is it

155:46

holding you back? She can't hear. She

155:48

can't see. And she could talk and write

155:50

books." Like, wait, what?

155:52

>> Okay, that [snorts] is this one article.

155:54

I knew she flew.

155:56

>> I I've read things that said that the

155:58

people that were examining her said that

156:01

she responded to sound and that she

156:03

responded to light. Just because this

156:06

one thing says it's not true doesn't

156:08

mean that it's not true.

156:09

>> Well, then here's the question.

156:10

>> It's also we don't know. This is a

156:13

hundred years ago.

156:14

>> Yeah.

156:14

>> We really don't know.

156:16

>> How blind and deaf do you need to be

156:17

before you say you're not blind and

156:19

deaf?

156:20

>> Right. Well, the thing is like can you

156:22

not hear anything? Can you not see

156:24

anything? That's blind and that's deaf.

156:26

Anything else is like I have poor

156:27

hearing and poor sight.

156:28

>> Yeah, but that doesn't sell a [ __ ]

156:30

book,

156:31

>> right? But that's the problem. Like

156:32

maybe she could see a little. Maybe she

156:34

just had bad vision and maybe she could

156:36

talk a little [laughter] cuz otherwise

156:39

how I mean

156:39

>> so less impressive.

156:40

>> Explain to me how you're going to write

156:42

books. Explain to me how you're going to

156:43

grasp concepts and language and

156:45

communication and and interaction.

156:48

Explain to me. I don't get it. I've

156:50

never met anybody since then that's been

156:51

able to do it. Do any blind deaf people

156:53

today write books and fly planes?

156:56

>> I don't know if she flew a plane.

156:58

>> She's just in the plane. That's what it

156:59

said.

156:59

>> Oh yeah,

157:00

>> she's in the front of the plane and they

157:01

usually flew in front of

157:02

>> I saw a blind guy on a plane once. I

157:04

didn't think anything of it. I didn't

157:05

think he flew. I

157:06

>> almost got in a fight with a blind guy

157:07

at the Austin airport

157:08

>> for what?

157:08

>> Right after I did the show last time I

157:10

was here. I was a little high. I went to

157:11

the airport a little drunk. He was

157:14

fighting with his wife and he grabbed

157:15

her by the back of the arm

157:17

>> to leave and I thought he was just

157:18

grabbing by the back of the arm like a

157:20

dick. And I was like, "Hey." Hey. And

157:21

then he turned around. He had sunglasses

157:23

on and a cane. And I realized he that's

157:25

the only way he could get to the gate.

157:26

>> Look at Burp being a [ __ ] white

157:27

knight.

157:27

>> I know.

157:28

>> Stepping in fighting blind guys.

157:30

>> I [ __ ] that guy up. [laughter] He

157:31

didn't is so easiest fight I've ever

157:33

been in.

157:33

>> Remember

157:34

>> the look on the black guy's face at TSA

157:37

when I when I couldn't see that he was

157:39

blind already and he grabbed his wife's

157:41

arm and I went, "Hey." And the black guy

157:42

went, "Oh shit." Like not knowing you're

157:45

you're talking [ __ ] to a blind guy.

157:46

>> You were drunk.

157:47

>> I was [snorts] I was wasted. So are

157:49

there any people are there any good

157:51

articles that say Helen Keller could

157:52

see?

157:54

>> I asked perplexity. It said she was

157:57

blind and deaf caused by u menitis when

158:00

she was 19 months old. [clears throat]

158:03

>> Again I wonder wonder if she could see a

158:05

little see a little and hear a little

158:07

makes a lot more sense that you could

158:08

write books.

158:09

>> So I just stumbled across something

158:11

that's I don't know how true it is. just

158:12

says that somewhere in the along the way

158:15

Stevie Wonder got some sort of

158:17

corrective something or other to help.

158:20

>> Well, so he could see a little bit

158:21

>> perception issues or

158:23

>> what that means you could see. Stop

158:26

lying to me. Damn it.

158:27

>> But he also another thing says he's got

158:29

detached retinas.

158:29

>> Wait, did you ever see that?

158:30

>> Oh, interesting. So he has damaged

158:33

vision then. That sounds like damaged

158:36

vision.

158:36

>> Shortly had shortly after birth due to

158:38

retinopathy of prematurity from being

158:40

born prematurely. He's addressed his

158:42

rumors persistently

158:44

uh about being able to see it's a

158:47

blessing allow him to see people's

158:48

spirits not their appearance.

158:51

>> So this is the Instagram thing that I

158:53

saw initially on Helen Keller. I'll send

158:55

this to you.

158:56

>> That's the

158:59

>> Yeah, you don't believe that, but you

159:00

believe that [ __ ] article that you

159:01

just pulled up.

159:02

>> No, I'm saying starting with social

159:04

media isn't the best place.

159:05

>> Listen, it's the best place for

159:06

information.

159:07

>> It's where I get all my information.

159:08

>> Everything's accurate.

159:09

>> You could start there.

159:10

>> It's all real.

159:11

is all real.

159:12

>> You ever told someone, "Yeah, I read a

159:14

book about it." It was just an Instagram

159:15

post and they're like, "A book?" I think

159:17

I saw the same post.

159:18

>> Yeah.

159:18

>> Helen Keller was a fraud. Doctors prove

159:20

she could see and hear how her teacher

159:23

made millions from the lie. It

159:25

[clears throat] said medical board

159:26

archive

159:27

medical board archives from 1902 to 1924

159:30

allegedly contain examination reports

159:32

suggesting Helen Keller retained partial

159:34

vision and hearing throughout her life.

159:36

According to those claims, multiple

159:38

physicians noted she reacted to sounds

159:39

when Anne Sullivan was not present,

159:41

tracked movement with her eyes, and

159:43

physically flinched at loud noises. One

159:46

sealed report is said to conclude that I

159:48

don't like that is said to conclude

159:51

>> that her responses pointed to

159:53

coordinated deception rather than true

159:55

disability.

159:57

>> Sullivan reportedly refused independent

160:00

testing. Aha. The theory argues that the

160:02

situation became highly profitable.

160:04

Sullivan allegedly discovered Keller at

160:06

age seven, promoted a miraculous

160:08

teaching breakthrough, and toured the

160:10

country, charging the modern equivalent

160:12

of thousands per appearance. Supporters

160:14

of the claims say Keller's autobiography

160:16

noticeably changed tone when Sullivan

160:18

became ill, suggesting Sullivan authored

160:21

both voices. Financial records are said

160:24

to show Sullivan controlled all income,

160:26

keeping Keller financially dependent for

160:28

life. Linguistic an analytics

160:31

[clears throat]

160:31

cited by conspiracy supporters claimed

160:33

Keller's writings mirrored Sullivan's

160:35

private letters exactly matching

160:37

vocabulary, sentence structure, and even

160:40

spelling mistakes. They argued that

160:41

Keller wrote without Sullivan present,

160:44

that when Keller wrote without Sullivan

160:46

present, the work appeared elementary,

160:48

concluding that her eloquent public

160:50

words came from Sullivan, not Keller.

160:53

According to the theory, disability

160:55

organizations later built massive

160:57

institutions around Keller's story when

160:59

evidence questioning her condition

161:00

surfaced. It was allegedly suppressed

161:02

due to to [clears throat] rather protect

161:04

a lucrative charity, an

161:06

inspiration-based industry that relied

161:08

on a powerful symbolic figure,

161:10

>> Lance Armstrong.

161:12

>> What do you mean?

161:12

>> This is like this is the this is the

161:15

whole like uh the you build the whole

161:18

thing and people start coming at you,

161:20

right? It's like this is the time when

161:22

the elephant man was big,

161:23

>> but Lance Armstrong won those races. And

161:25

the thing about the Lance Armstrong

161:27

thing is,

161:28

>> you know, you could say Lance Armstrong

161:30

cheated and he'll tell you he cheated.

161:31

But the reality is everyone cheated. If

161:34

you wanted to go back into the archives

161:36

when he won tour to France and figure

161:38

out like who didn't test positive, you

161:41

had to go to 18th place. Yeah. So they

161:45

took away all his jerseys by the way.

161:47

[ __ ] you to he says because he still has

161:50

all those jerseys on the wall. [ __ ]

161:51

you can't take them from me. You can say

161:53

I didn't win, but everybody knows I won.

161:54

And everybody knows he won when all

161:57

those other guys were doping, too.

161:58

>> But I was saying they were trying to

161:59

protect of a lucrative a lucrative

162:01

profit.

162:02

>> Uhhuh.

162:02

>> And that's what didn't happen with

162:04

Lance. Like he they they just threw him

162:05

under the bus. Well, he was also suing

162:08

people who were saying that he took

162:10

stuff. Yeah.

162:11

>> Because they were whistleblowers because

162:12

they went after them first and said,

162:13

"Listen, if you if you blow the whistle

162:15

on Lance, we'll get you off the hook."

162:17

And so then he would sue them.

162:19

>> Be a better story if Helen was more like

162:21

Lance and they're like, "We got a tennis

162:22

partner says you play tennis with a

162:24

Helen." [laughter]

162:25

>> She was like, she's like, "I'm going to

162:26

sue you." And they're like, they're

162:27

like, "You're talking pretty good." She

162:28

go,

162:30

>> but this is around the time when the

162:31

Elephant Man was big. So you'd grab on

162:33

to something, right? Uh-huh.

162:34

>> You grab onto something like a sideshow

162:36

>> and you'd parade it around the country.

162:38

>> Especially that woman who's her handler.

162:39

If that lady was responsible for all of

162:41

her finances and had access to all that

162:43

money

162:43

>> and Sullivan,

162:44

>> that makes sense.

162:45

>> That's how I mixed up Anne Frank and

162:46

Anne Sullivan. That's how it came about.

162:48

>> There's nowhere to There's no link here.

162:50

>> Shut up, Jamie.

162:50

>> I just want to say,

162:52

>> stop ruining everything. [laughter]

162:56

>> You're right. There's no link there.

162:57

>> There's not a single link to say And

162:58

[clears throat] people even ask like

162:59

where are the links and when you Google

163:00

some of the stuff.

163:01

>> I like that one though. I knew it.

163:02

>> I knew it. I'm with that guy.

163:04

>> Christian Harvey. I'm with that guy. I'm

163:06

with that guy.

163:07

>> I've been saying this for years.

163:09

>> It just doesn't make sense that she'd be

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able to write so eloquently.

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>> Did you ever see Kevin Hart and Dr. Dre

163:14

talking about Stevie Wonder?

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>> No.

163:16

>> Pull this up. Kevin Hart, Dr. Dre.

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[laughter] It's cuz Dr. Dre is not mean

163:21

like he's not he never tries to be

163:23

funny,

163:23

>> right?

163:24

>> And he is so [ __ ] funny on accident

163:27

on this clip.

163:28

>> Talking about Stevie Wonder.

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>> Just Stevie Wonder, Dr. Dre, Kevin Hart.

163:33

album with Marsha Ambrosia, right? And

163:35

we did some music, a song using Stevie

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Wonder's music and he had to clear it

163:39

and he called me up like, "Yo, Jay, for

163:41

some reason Stevie Wonder calls you like

163:43

super early in the morning, like 6:00,

163:45

7:00 in the morning or some shit." I'm

163:46

like, "Just [music] cuz you can't see

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the time [laughter]

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the [ __ ]

163:52

>> right?" So, true story. [music]

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>> Look, I don't like the lyrics. I don't

163:57

like the lyrics, right?

163:58

>> Look at Kevin.

163:58

>> Okay, we went in and changed the lyrics.

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[music] It's like, what if we uh

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[laughter]

164:04

It's like just

164:07

[laughter]

164:08

Stevie, it's 3:00 [crying] a.m.

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>> What the [clears throat] [ __ ] is the

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difference? Like 5:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

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to Stevie. [laughter]

164:21

>> That's true.

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>> What's the difference?

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>> That's true.

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>> That's blind people have a really hard

164:25

time sleeping.

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>> I imagine cuz it's dark all the time.

164:29

Yeah.

164:29

>> Yeah. Their circadian rhythm is all

164:31

[ __ ] up, right? They feel sunlight in

164:32

their face, though. If they go outside,

164:34

>> they have to. I do.

164:35

>> They have to. Yeah. It probably feels

164:36

really good. That sun in your face.

164:39

You're blind. Like, ah,

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>> you just don't feel the light. Just feel

164:43

the warmth.

164:44

>> I bet you see it when you open your eyes

164:45

a little bit. But you see something.

164:47

>> Depends on your level of blindness,

164:48

right? Some people could just see light,

164:50

like a little bit of light.

164:52

>> I would love that they made like blind

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glasses. Like, this is what this is how

164:55

blind you have to be to be considered

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blind. And you could just put them on

164:58

and be like, "Okay, that's blind."

164:59

>> Oh, like legally blind glasses.

165:00

>> Yeah, like legally blind glasses that we

165:02

could all put on.

165:03

>> And then they're like, "That'd be cool

165:05

if they made like version like this is

165:07

how blind Helen Keller was." And you put

165:08

them on, you're like, "Oh, I can [ __ ]

165:09

see."

165:10

>> Yeah. We don't know.

165:11

>> I guess there's no way to find out.

165:12

>> I'd like to believe that it was a fraud.

165:13

I think that's fun. I like to believe

165:15

that people pull Well, it's like

165:17

Watergate. I I like finding out.

165:19

>> I gotta get rid of that book now.

165:20

>> Yeah,

165:21

>> that [ __ ] bums me out. That was

165:23

>> Listen, will you watch the episode that

165:25

I did with Bill Murray? He [ __ ] hated

165:26

that book. He said after five pages he

165:29

was like I knew it was [ __ ]

165:31

>> God.

165:31

>> Yeah. Bert, I love you to death.

165:33

>> Joe, I love you.

165:34

>> Tell everybody about your show. It's on

165:35

Netflix right now.

165:36

>> Free streaming on Netflix right now.

165:38

Check it out. If you like it, just enjoy

165:40

it. Tell a friend.

165:42

>> Boom. Boom.

165:43

>> 275 lbs in this.

165:45

>> Damn, you look like you lost a lot of

165:47

weight. How much you down to now?

165:48

>> 40 lb. 35 lbs. 45 lbs. I'm

165:51

>> You haven't drank in how long?

165:53

>> Just 17 days.

165:54

>> That's good. Yeah, I got another I have

165:57

a timer set. Five months and 18 days.

165:59

>> So, at 6 months, you're going to have a

166:01

drink.

166:01

>> Uh, yeah. Well, I got a second opinion.

166:03

You know that, Joe.

166:04

>> Okay. I'll see you in six months.

166:05

>> I'll see you in I'll see you.

166:06

>> I'll see you before. Are [laughter] you

166:07

coming tonight? You going to be around

166:08

tonight?

166:08

>> I I'm trying to go did spend time with

166:10

Tom's kids. I was dinner.

166:12

>> Okay. Beautiful.

166:13

>> What's good? Good luck getting Tommy on

166:14

the phone these days.

166:15

>> He's a busy boy.

166:16

>> Yeah, [snorts] busy boy.

166:17

>> Yeah, we're all busy. Tom,

166:19

>> that dude's busy though. No,

166:20

>> he's kind of crazy busy.

166:21

>> Yeah, I own a vodka company with him.

166:23

>> Yeah, he opened up a restaurant. We have

166:24

a 5K. You could have come run our 5K,

166:26

Joe?

166:26

>> No.

166:28

>> LA?

166:28

>> No. Come. I don't go to LA.

166:31

>> When was the last time you were there?

166:33

>> Uh,

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I guess it was like I went there for the

166:37

UFC

166:38

7 months ago or something like that.

166:40

>> Okay.

166:40

>> Yeah.

166:41

>> I don't go there anymore. I LA to me is

166:43

like a just a bad relationship. Like

166:46

that you like you run into a girl that

166:47

used to be cool and now she's just a

166:49

mess and you're like, "Oh."

166:50

>> You don't miss anything about it?

166:52

>> Nope.

166:53

[laughter]

166:54

I'm good at moving on.

166:57

>> Thanks for having me on, Joe.

166:59

>> My pleasure, brother. I love you to

167:00

death. All right. Bye, everybody.

167:07

[music]

Interactive Summary

The podcast features a discussion about red light therapy and its effects on vision, with anecdotal evidence suggesting positive outcomes. The conversation then shifts to generational differences and the impact of technological advancements, particularly the internet and cell phones, on different age groups. The speakers also delve into the world of comedy, discussing prank calls, the work of comedians like Greg Fitzsimons and Shane Gillis, and the evolving nature of stand-up. A significant portion of the podcast is dedicated to exploring various cultural and societal topics, including the JFK assassination conspiracy, the influence of media, and the debate around vaccine efficacy and mandates. The latter half touches upon lucid dreaming, the history of Rasputin, the intricacies of the Watergate scandal, and the potential for fraud in historical narratives, using Helen Keller as an example. The discussion also includes personal health choices, the impact of social media, and reflections on what truly constitutes happiness and success, drawing parallels between physical struggle and mental well-being.

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