Joe Rogan Experience #2445 - Bert Kreischer
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>> Hey, do [music] Hey, does a red light
therapy really help your [ __ ] eyes?
>> 100%.
>> I'm doing it.
>> Are we rolling?
>> Yeah.
>> My eyes are so [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> I can't see. Joe,
>> get one of them Gary Brea beds for your
house. Well, there's a bunch of
companies that sell them, but you want
like a really powerful red light bed. I
did it this morning. Dude, it changed my
vision.
>> I can't When I'm in the shower, I can't
read shampoo, bath gel.
>> Whoa.
>> Like, I'm like, dude, why do they need
to be small? Can't you just make it big
as [ __ ] so everyone can see it?
>> They're not that small.
>> I Well, they're I can't see them. And
then I'm getting out naked putting on
readers to see what I'm [ __ ]
[laughter]
I've washed my hair with conditioner so
many times.
>> Yeah, mine was getting bad. Mine was
getting where I needed these [ __ ]
things, which I haven't picked up in
months. I heard you say that and I was
like, dude, changed my life. I did uh
went to Ways Dwell the other day and I
did the red light bed every day. Every
day until I Googled how much it cost.
That thing's [ __ ] expensive.
>> It's expensive. The real one. But
Whitney got one that's not that
expensive and it's fixed her eyes.
>> She got one that she sits in front of
every day for like 20 minutes or
something like that.
>> I love that.
>> Oh, dude. It's amazing. But the big
ones, the beds, they help your your
whole body recover. They're like, we
could let's let's put it put that into
perplexity and say what is the benefits
of powerful red light therapy?
I [ __ ] I use AI so much now. I was in
the beginning I was resisting it so
much. Then Perplexity came on as a
sponsor and now instead of searching
things online, I just ask the phone. I
just pull up the the app and ask it a
question. I don't have to type anything
and then it gives me an answer and then
I could say well what's the benefits of
it and then it'll list out the benefits
and then I'll say what are the cons and
it'll list out the cons like is there
you know there there any people that
disagree with complexity.
>> Yeah.
>> So I got I got one my questions are
always like they're always more like
about me. So I [laughter] look
>> they're they're very
>> Why do you look yourself up?
>> No, no, not about No, I don't look
myself up. It's about like No, my my
health or my experience in life. So like
So like I was like I was the other day I
was in bed. I was like, "All right,
>> I think my generation
had the greatest run."
>> Like out of out of all the generations
around, my generation Gen X had the
greatest run. We got great childhoods,
right?
>> Right.
>> We got to experience cell phones. We got
to be impressed by the cell phone,
>> right?
>> We uh we had 9/11, which wasn't great,
but was a time of the country healed,
right? Everyone wants a big tragedy like
the JFK shooting. You want that moment
where you walk by a bar and they're
like, "What what are you doing?" Like,
"You haven't heard." We got one of
those.
>> We had the pandemic, which is insane,
right?
>> We had our music probably better. We had
rock. We had I mean, just the all the
internet took off. So, we got to
experience that. I think my generation
Gen X has yours too, right?
>> Right. Yeah, I'm
>> so I asked that to chat GBT and it and I
was wrong.
>> What do you mean?
>> The greatest generation is actually
labeled the greatest generation. It's my
grandmother, your grandmother. They
experienced horse and buggy.
They then went they saw cars. They saw
television. All within the time they had
horse and buggy, they saw people land on
the moon.
>> I mean, all that [ __ ] Telephones.
[laughter]
who got [ __ ] with the baby boomers.
They were just old enough to not
understand cell phones. Like they got
[ __ ] Millennials got [ __ ]
Millennials got real [ __ ]
>> Yeah. I don't know about the greatest
generation. I think I think you're
correct. I think the passage of the
internet, like the internet going
through our lives and and cell phones,
like I experienced VHS tapes first.
Yeah.
>> Then I exper answering machines, that
was a big one. Caller ID, you know who's
calling you. You could just duck people.
That was crazy.
>> I remember when caller ID showed up.
Then I remember Star 69 showed up where
you could block your caller ID.
>> Star 69 was good because you could call
people back that were pranking you.
>> Yeah.
>> Like, "Hey, motherfucker." They're like,
"What? What's going on,
>> dude?" We got prank calls. My kid my my
kids didn't never got prank calls. Like,
they never understood what a prank call
was.
>> The Jerky Boys.
>> Jerky Boys were [ __ ] amazing,
>> dude.
>> Those guys were so funny. So, those
recordings were so funny. You know who
did a great [ __ ] prank call vid uh
recording? Greg Fitz Simmons.
>> Really?
>> Oh my god, it's hilarious. He did this
one where he called a rental car place
and he said that it's the car was on
fire because they they went to the gas
station and they filled up pots and pans
with gas and they put it in the back
seat and [ __ ] Bobby smoking and now
the car's on fire. Like you got to hear
this guy freaking out. What do you mean
the car's on fire? It's you can't do
that anymore,
>> dude. Greg, you know when people go
like, "Uh, what kind of music you listen
to?" And you talk to a real musician
like you talk to the Black Keys, right?
And then you go like, "What do you guys
listen to?" And they're like, "Have you
heard of the Velvet Thud or something?"
>> Right. Right. They got some obscure and
they're like, "That's what you need to
listen to." When people say, "I listen
to Sunday Papers. That's Fitz Simmons
and Gibbons podcast." I go, "You're real
comedy fans. Those are the two funniest
human beings alive ever." Greg Fitz
Simmons. When I got ready for Lucky, I
brought him on the road with me. I was
like, "Dude, I trust you. Just tell me
where I'm sloppy. Tell me where I'm
lazy. Tell me where I'm leaving jokes."
And that first night he was like, "You
got a minute." And he went through my
whole hour. He's like, "I think you're
leaving this on the table." Dude, those
[ __ ] are the funniest dudes
alive.
>> Yeah. Greg's awesome. We started out
together. We We started like one week
apart from each other
>> for real.
>> Yeah. Literally, we went on the road.
God, in the early days, Greg and I
traveled everywhere. We We did open mic.
We would drive to Rhode Island, do open
mics together.
He was a great example of the first dude
I ever saw talking about his family on
stage and it wasn't nerdy.
>> Right. Right. Right.
>> Him and his son ran a train on his wife.
>> What?
>> It was a great joke. He was like, "I had
my first threesome." Uh, it was with my
son, so it's a little awkward. I'm
[ __ ] Greg's joke up. He goes, "My son
was breastfeeding. I was getting her
from behind. [laughter]
We had to high five in the middle." But
I remember hearing that as a can
remember when remember being a dad as a
comic was like off limits.
>> Right. Right. And I saw that and I just
had Georgia. The second person I saw,
the first person is Greg. The second
person I saw and I I mean I'm talking
just had Georgia was Louis [ __ ] CK. I
went and worked the road with him and he
was doing all the material for that
first special that popped for him and he
was talking about his kids and he was
just like, "My daughter's a cunt."
[laughter]
And he goes, "I know you're not supposed
to say that, but what else do you say to
someone who won't put their shoes on?
They're a [ __ ] [laughter] We're trying
to leave the house and they won't put
their shoes. Imagine if you wouldn't
leave." And it was just like and it was
like I'm sitting there, you know, lost
in like what I thought was standup was
like some imitation of Dne, you know,
and I'm watching Louis going like this
is something totally different.
>> Yeah, those guys. Best prank call I've
ever heard. Sidebar, Brendan Walsh.
>> Brennan Walsh is a funny [ __ ]
>> Brendon Wall,
>> what's he up to?
>> I don't know. I think he does like like
a like he's always been like more more
art comedy, you know, like more like
performance. He does these podcasts
where he puts a neck brace on and a wig
and giant glasses and he plays a
character. He's a funny dude, man.
>> Do you remember?
>> He's an Austin guy.
>> He was an Austin guy. He was He was
>> I remember he Do you remember he was on
your podcast? He I remember him telling
the story and I I think about this all
the time. A circus city had closed by
his house and so and he lives in Silver
Lake. Do you remember?
>> That's right. He made a prank we told
everybody was turning into a Whole Foods
[laughter]
and he got everybody so excited. Oh,
Whole Foods is going to be a Silver
Lake.
>> He just did it for himself [laughter] so
that he could be in the coffee shop and
hear people talking about Whole Foods.
>> He did a prank call. I think Stan Hope
sent it to me. He was like, "This is the
best prank call ever." And it's Brendan
calling a sec, like a a phone sex. And
you know, they always try to keep you on
the line, right?
>> So he's like, "Hey, what are you
wearing?" She was like, "Nothing. What
are you wearing?" He's like, "Nothing."
And then you hear like a a dog barking
in the back. And she goes, "Is that is
that your dog?" He's like, "Yeah, yeah.
Ignore him. Ignore him." And then the
dog barks a little longer. And he's
like, "Tell me what what are you
touching yourself?" And then you hear a
baby crying in the back. And he's like,
she's like, "Is that your baby?" And
he's like, "No, it's fine. It's fine.
It's a different room. It's I'm totally
fine." And then you hear a woman come in
and go, "Are you on the [ __ ] phone
sex again?" And he's like, "Hey, leave
me alone." And she's like, "Is there do
you need one to do this later?" He's
like, "Don't worry about it." And then
you hear a marching band come in playing
alua.
[laughter] And he's just trying to hold
her on the line. Dude, I was cry. That
is like like you know, not to like get
too meta about it, but comedy has become
so and I'm a part of this of so
self-promotional and put it on. I got I
got to think it's a new show. When you
see someone like Brendan or like or like
Greg and Mike who ju who just do it for
the pure just to make themselves giggle.
>> Yeah.
>> It's so beautiful. Gillis is like that.
>> Yeah. Gillis is Gillis. I always think
he's just a like a like a my my favorite
Shane Gillis story to that I will for
the until I die. We're doing uh we're
doing Fully Loaded the first year and
it's Shane's on everyone. Mark's on
everyone. Nikki's on everyone. It's like
it's stop. It's the best year we
probably did it. No offense. And Shane
go sees my daughter George who's being a
PA with her friend Daisy. And it's the
very last night and Shane walks up and
he's like, "You guys sneaking beers?"
And they're like, "No." He goes, "Oh,
come on. I'm not gonna rat you out." And
they're like, "No, we're not." He's
like, "Come on. You're 18 years old.
You're on tour. It's our last night. You
guys are sneaking beers." And they're
like, "We're not sneaking beers." He
goes, "I can smell the beer on you." And
they're like, "We we've been sneak
sneaking beers." And he goes, "Okay."
And he just sits down right next to me.
He goes, "George is sneaking beers."
[laughter]
>> Did you know she was sneaking beers?
>> No. I had no idea. Shane just [ __ ]
ratted her out. She's your daughter.
>> Yeah.
>> You're getting hammered every night.
You're not going to notice. Like dad's
drunk. [laughter]
>> He won't even know if we're drunk.
>> Oh, she would. Yeah. She It's funny
because I go to like her college and
other dads, you know, party and then and
like she's like she doesn't She's always
like
kind of low-key about it. Like the dads
will like bite beer cans and kill them
and shotgun beers.
>> What?
>> I know. That's what dads do.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Which dads? I don't mean any of these
dads.
>> You're in a different school zone.
>> The uh that's what dads do. And and I'm
always like, you know, this is what I do
for a living. Like I can [ __ ] murder
these guys. She's like, "Dad, I'm like,
oh, you like him crushing a beer and
shotgunning it." [ __ ] I can micro
dose. What are we talking about?
[laughter]
What were you telling about? Um
>> Jamie,
>> you were tell I'm sorry. Right before we
get started, you were telling me about
something
>> SC the REM sleep or lucid dreaming
[snorts] sleep communication. I got to
figure out how where I put it.
>> I sent a DM to someone about it. I think
>> so. I got to tell you before we find. So
Eddie Bravo calls me the other day and
he goes, "Did Burke Chryser lose
everything and then get it back?" I go,
"What?" And he goes, "Yeah, it was so
confusing." He was on Shannon Sharp show
and Shannon says says to Bert, "What was
it like? You lost everything." and then
you had to build it back. And he goes,
"It seemed like it wasn't true." I go,
"It's not true." And I go, "Did Burke go
along with it?" He goes, "Yeah." I go,
"WHAT?"
And I couldn't wait to talk TO YOU ABOUT
IT CUZ I COULD totally picture someone
saying to you some story that totally
never happened and you not wanting to be
confrontational, so you just go along
with it. Is that what happened?
>> 100%. [laughter]
>> 100%.
>> [ __ ] show. How did you not say that
never happened? [laughter]
>> He just caught me off guard.
>> HE CAUGHT YOU OFF GUARD.
>> I WAS LIKE,
>> did did at any point in time you say I
should probably say this never happened.
No.
>> I was like he was like you lost
everything in my head. I was like I did.
He was [laughter] like he was like BUT
YOU MADE IT ALL BACK. AND I GO I DID.
>> WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA. [laughter] HE SAID IT.
And I just was like uh-huh. Uh-huh.
>> Why did you say that?
>> I don't know. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I
SAID AFTER. He's like how did you do it?
And I JUST WAS LIKE, MAN, I JUST LIKE I
don't know, Shannon. I just focused and
really strugg like I have no [ __ ]
clue. I should not be allowed to talk on
microphones. I literally was like, I
don't know what I said even after it to
be honest with you. But I was like, I
guess he has it in his notes. So I was
like, yeah.
>> So someone must have googled Bur
Crusher. It probably some Reddit thread.
Bird Crusher lost everything,
>> I guess. And like you know the stories
about you online are are more prevalent
than the true ones. So you just go I
guess that's what he heard.
>> You just went with it.
>> I don't know. I don't
>> That's so weird to do.
>> I was I had no I I was like in my head I
was like trying to think maybe he was
talking about like you know I had
development deals when I got into the
business.
>> Yeah you didn't lose them. They gave you
money. Just never became a show. Oh, but
then no, but I'm saying like maybe I was
in my head I was like maybe he's
thinking that like you know I had a lot
of development deals early and then I
didn't for a few years and I worked the
road and maybe that's what he was saying
and then I made I'm back. I don't know.
I was like
>> but even when you worked the road, you
worked the road then you had the Travel
Channel show. There was no period where
it made sense.
>> By the way, that is the least of my fist
to fry on that [ __ ] show. I got in so
much trouble that that show every clip
you do goes viral. every I just am like
I I I was as when I got done that I
haven't felt this in a long time. I was
like I was like wow. I was like I think
I'm going to get a lot of texts when
this airs.
>> Well, it seems like he wants that,
right? He's got a [clears throat] lot of
people on the show that talk a lot of
[ __ ] A lot of people like Cat Williams
famously was that that episode was
[ __ ] amazing.
>> We talked about that.
>> He just went in on everybody including
me. That's why I got him on the podcast.
He said, "Joe Rogan want to have me on."
>> Has the same funny [ __ ]
>> Unfunny. Yeah. Same seven unfunny
[ __ ]
I was like, "Dude, I love Cat Williams.
What are you talking about?"
>> He's the best.
>> I'm like, I never met him.
>> Yeah.
>> I had never met him before. It's like it
wasn't that I wouldn't have him on. It's
like I didn't even know he wanted to
come on. I would have had him on.
>> That interview was with him was epic.
>> Amazing. And accurate. The thing about
his [ __ ] talking is it's not he's not
lying.
>> No.
>> No. It's it's you know it's
when I got out I was like it's I don't I
don't mean this with disrespect but it's
less Shannon I think more as producers
because he's got cards. So I think the
producers are like what what clip's
going to pop? I think they go online,
>> right? They try to find controversial
subjects.
>> Like he brought up I told you he brought
up one. He's like, "Bert, you think
Kevin Hart's just lucky?" And I was
like, "Oh."
>> I was like, "I said that [ __ ] 12
years ago." And it was just it was all
it was. And I know I'm I'm even But it
was this is what it was, Joe, is like at
a time when I we none of us were making
money. Not you, but like the younger
compan
knows I love him, but Kevin's like, "I'm
the hardest working [ __ ] I'm
the hardest working. And in my head, I
was like, we're all working hard. Like,
but a lot of people, you know, were
just, you know, waiting for a moment to
to to get in front of people. And then I
was like, and then I had an agent very
casually, like not mine, but at a thing
goes, you know, Kevin should mention how
lucky he got. I was like, what do you
mean? He's like, you know about fool's
gold, right? I was like, no. He's like,
"Well, that's the beef between Kevin and
Cat is Cat packed a gun in his luggage
to go shoot fool's gold and he got
detained and they were in production and
they're like, "We need we need someone
small and black to fit these clothes. We
already got clothes for him." Yeah. And
he's like, "Get Kevin Hart." And that
was the story I wanted Kevin to tell
because that as a comic, you can kind of
put your head around that. And I've and
and by the way, I did not do a good job
of explaining it on Shannon's show
because it's like, you know, I'm a
[ __ ] talk out of my ass, but like
every comic has had these like moments
that skyrocket them, right? These
moments that pop and and I went through
it and I think you'll understand it now,
but for me it was the machine story
going viral. For for Bill Burr, it's the
Philly rant with Bill. That Philly rant
just put him in the next level. Jim
Jeff, he gets punched in the head at the
comedy seller or comedy store in London.
His manager happens to be a guy that
knows the internet, Brett Vincent,
posted on MySpace, goes viral. Every
comic that pops always has that. Tom, as
I was telling this to Tom, he goes,
"Yeah, it was me Netflix." He was like,
"Tom got on Netflix." I mean, I didn't
even realize this. Tom said it to me. He
got on Netflix when there were two
comics on Netflix.
Bill Burr and Tom Seagura. Bill puts his
special out there like, "Did you like
Bill Burr? You might like Tom Sigura."
And Tom's like, "If Comedy Central had
bought my hour, I would have been
fucked." But instead, I sold it to this
small streamer, Netflix, and the only
other one they had was Bill Burr. And
so,
>> as comics, I think sometimes, and you
know how much I believe in luck, it's so
e it's easier to hear about someone's
luck where you go, "Oh, that is crazy
that happen stance." I mean, we've said
it about you and I know you you probably
disagree maybe to a certain extent, but
you're I thought I think the greatest
thing that ever happened to you was that
getting kicked out of the comedy store
that that period of time where you had
to reeval evaluate yourself and you
created this what you have and you re I
mean you would speak to it better than I
could, but I think as comics we look at
you reinventing yourself and re
imagining yourself and and making it
your own [ __ ] entity and creating
this podcast which is changed all of our
lives that moment and it must have been
tough to lose your agent get kicked out
of the comedy store and have to figure
things out that we all got be everyone
got behind you everyone was like that's
my guy I mean I'm curious what your
feelings about that are okay if your New
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get started. I mean that certainly had
an impact. You know, it was also the
Mensia video where people could clearly
see that I was right.
>> Yes.
>> And then we were all a victim. Like we
were all hiding at the store. Like when
he would go on stage or he wouldn't be
in the back of the room if you were on
stage, they would flash the light to let
you know that he was in the room. Mhm.
>> You know how crazy that is that there's
a guy around that steals so much that
they have to flash a light whenever a
comic's on stage and then comics would
just start doing crowd work.
>> Yeah, that's insane to me.
>> It was crazy. So all the comics knew
that what I was saying was the truth and
it was proved by like the consequences
of someone who was already successful,
right? So I was already on Fear Factor
at the time. I was already a known
person and I lost my agent and I got
kicked out of the store. Like
>> that video that video was I akin to the
Philly rant Jim Jeff getting p that
viral moment for you which
>> it was also how well Red Band put it
together too cuz he's such a good
editor. He's so brilliant. It was music.
He went back in time. He like you know
like he spent a lot of time working on
that. It was a work of art. But it was,
you know, it was the first time that
someone was held accountable because,
you know, we don't have to name names,
but we all know people who snuck through
and still kind of have careers, although
greatly diminished impact because like
when they go on stage now, people are
excited to see them cuz they're famous
and then that immediately goes away when
you realize there's nothing there. They
have no material because they have to
write for themselves now.
>> Yeah. You see a giant drop off. If you
see the early specials with like great
jokes and really funny and then you see
like what is this nonsense towards the
end, it's just like weird [ __ ] like
nonsensical rants on thing. It's bizarre
to watch. But that's what happens when
you get exposed and you have to do your
own [ __ ] And there's a few of those
guys floating around out there.
>> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's crazy because the
one thing
>> cigar
>> uh I can't smoke cigars.
>> Really? What happened?
>> Blood clot. Oh, that's right.
>> Yeah, the I'm not supposed to smoke
cigars. I mean, I could text my
cardiologist and see what he says.
>> I heard cigars are good for you. I heard
they gave them to to Teddy Roosevelt.
>> Yeah, look what happened to him.
>> You know, I could have one cigar. If
you're going to smoke one in here, I
mean, dog, come on, son.
>> Just do it like old school Rogan where I
anytime I smoked weed, you had to pull
the camera away from me [laughter]
>> because you're on a travel channel.
Uh yeah, I mean we all have a moment
where things but it's like an
accumulation of those moments, right?
>> It's it's it's you know what it is. It's
like uh you get that moment like I'll
use Burr as an example because you know
only because I've talked to him about
this specifically, but like he he didn't
love the Philly rant because right away
everyone thought, "Oh, that's his thing.
We're going to we're going to heckle him
and he'll go lose his shit." So he
didn't love it. But the thing is that
that goes viral and then you Google that
person, you're like, "Who is this?" And
then you see a body of work that's
undeniable and you're like, "Oh, Bill
Burr is my guy." You know, uh, for for
for Shane, I mean, in my opinion, it's
it's that YouTube special he did and
then you see Gillian Keeves, you see all
his sketches.
>> It was also him getting kicked off of
SNL.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Him getting kicked off SNL was huge.
Yeah. It
>> was the best thing that ever happened to
him. if he was on SNL, he would have got
buried on that show like a lot of
people. [clears throat]
But instead, he gets kicked [snorts]
off. A bunch of people are mad at him
and then they're like, "Well, what did
he actually say?" And then people start
looking into it and they go, "Oh, he was
just [ __ ] around. He was pretending
to be a racist guy in Chinatown."
>> Yeah,
>> that was the bit. Like he was just they
were just talking [ __ ] on a podcast and
then he releases that special and you
go, "Oh, he's actually a great comic."
>> Dude, his Special Olympics
[clears throat] joke.
>> He's got so many good jokes. his special
Olympia jokes. We were in the bus one
time and uh my cousin Andrew goes, "Has
anyone know Shane Gillis?" And I I've
known Shane for a while. I've I have
hysterical emails that he sent me
>> back when he was like just like open mic
or whatever
>> like going like, "Hey man, I feel like
we connected.
They're the greatest. Joe,
>> he if he knew that I was he'd be she'd
face him and go, hey, can I read your
emails on on Joe?" He'd [ __ ] lose his
[ __ ] They're so [ __ ] hysterical,
Joe. I'll send them to you. And so, uh,
I go, "Yeah, I love Shane. I love
Shane." The day I met him, he goes,
"Uh," he's like, "Yeah, I'm supposed to
go out with my girlfriend tonight." And
I was like, "But, uh, it was like 10 in
the morning. We were drinking, uh,
fireball." And he was like, "Uh,
>> 10 in the morning."
>> Yeah. We were doing a I used to do call
sick to work shows where we go to the
>> fireball at 10:00 a.m.
>> He's like, that's what he said. He I'm
supposed to go my girlfriend. I said,
"What's your girlfriend's name?" He
goes, "Big tuna." And I went, "Big
tuna?" He goes, "She's a big girl." And
I was like, "Yeah, I figured for the
name, Shane." And then I [ __ ] I' that
from that day on, but that Special
Olympic jokes when he we listened to it
in the bus, he's like, "What do you
think? Should we race them?" I mean, it
we were crying [ __ ] laughing. That's
like one of my favorite jokes I've
[ __ ] ever.
>> He's got a lot of great bits. But
[clears throat] that special he did at
the creek in the cave that was like
people got to see. They're like, "Oh,
okay. Well, this is what he does. He he
he touches on that third wire."
>> Yeah.
>> You know, the third rail, rather. And
it's like, you know, it's funny. It's
really funny. And they were trying to
label him as this horrible racist that
Saturday Night Live hired. [snorts] But,
you know,
>> anything but from my opinion. But
>> that but that happens, man. You You're
going to, you know, you're going to get
attacked. There's always something.
There's always something that a comic
says where someone's going to get mad.
Especially in this day and age. People
are just looking for things to get mad.
But almost always it helps them. If
they're a good comic, almost always like
Tony Hinchcliffe, it blew him up. Like
almost always when something happens,
you get attacked. People start looking
at you go, "Actually, this guy's really
funny." And then they become a fan.
>> Yeah.
>> Cuz you're just getting so many more
eyeballs. The people that are looking to
hate you, they're going to hate you no
matter what. But there's going to be a
bunch of people that are all like,
"What's going on?" And then they look
into it. I mean, that happened to me
during co I gained 2 million followers
in like a month. two million followers
on on Spotify in a month when they were
trying to pull me off of Spotify. When
all like all these uh music artists were
calling me a vaccine denier and removing
their podcast or removing their music
like when uh Neil Young and was it Jonie
Mitchell? Yeah, Jonie Mitchell they they
publicly removed their their music from
Spotify because of my podcast
back. Yeah. I don't know if Jonie
Mitchell is, but yeah, Neil Young is I
don't even think Neil Young actually
owned his music, which was funny. I
think it was just like a ploy. I mean,
it's like I think he probably believed a
lot of things he was saying. He was just
misinformed. He just didn't understand
that I was actually talking to people
that were legitimate scientists that
turned out they were right. Now, now we
know.
>> Yeah. But back then it was like there
was this hysteria about it and a lot of
people that were very skeptical started
tuning in and then the whole [ __ ] CNN
thing when they turned me green like all
that [ __ ] it just that helped.
>> I don't know if I could have like I'm
not good that people always go you know
if they're talking about you it's good
all press is good press and I but
anytime anything negative comes out
about me it [ __ ] devastates me. I
don't like I could not have gone through
what you went through. You just don't I
just don't read it. If you don't read
like how do you because like you come up
in my news feed all the time
>> and and like and I I'm I'm such a
[ __ ] idiot that if I'm scrolling
through Google News and I see my name, I
go, "Oh, what's that?" And then I'm
like, "God damn it.
>> You can't do that."
>> Last time I did this show, greatest
experience, Gray Hang, Lucky streaming
number one on Netflix. I'm so [ __ ]
happy. I'm in my bed going things are
going good for the big guy. hit on
Google News and it's like picture of me
and you. I was like Burke Chryser Joe
Rogan and they're like Burke Chryser
ruins the Joe Rogan podcast. I'm like
[ __ ] [snorts]
It was an MMA [ __ ] journalist and I
was like wait why god damn it. I was
like and then and then you see it and
you're like well it can't be that bad.
I'm going to read it and they're like
[snorts]
oh my god. But then my daughter Georgia
said something very profound to me. She
was like why would you allow that? I'm
sure that guy will write that same
article after this episode. She goes,
"I'm sure he will." I think the guy also
has a [ __ ] football feed. He said, "I
ruined the any anytime I do something,
there's someone that says, "Brush, you
ruined it." And I'm the only one that
reads it. And my daughter Georgia goes
literally looked at me and goes, "Did
you have fun with Joe?" I went, "Yeah, I
had a blast. I love being around Joe."
She was like, "Then [ __ ] it." She goes,
"Your experience is the one that matters
the most." She goes, "What? Why would
you allow someone to dictate your memory
of an event?" And I was like, "Oh, who
the [ __ ] raised you?" I was like, "I
don't know."
>> Well, you were on the road. She probably
raised herself. [laughter]
>> That's why she's so wise. She had to
form her own opinions.
>> She didn't read books.
>> Yeah. She had to actually form her own
opinions and think about things
rationally. Having a father like you.
Yeah. You can't you can't pay attention
because the the vast majority of people
lived miserable lives. That's the Rose
quote. Mo most men live lives of quiet
desperation. There's a lot of people out
there that are very, very sad, very
unhappy, and looking to make something
negative. They're always looking to be a
critic,
which is fine. You know, that's their
prerogative, but it's not. You don't
have to read it.
>> Well, it's I I'm at the place now like I
took Google News, I took all Google and
everything off my phone because I the
series premiered and I didn't want to
get good or bad. I was like,
>> "Good."
>> Because you can't you can't quantify the
good.
>> Like, uh, like if you're gonna if you're
gonna listen to the good, you got to
listen to the bad.
>> And I was like, "Well, I don't want to
hear the bad." So, I just want to hear
the good. And then, uh, and then we were
Jamie and I were talking about this
outside, but like you have a social
media team who's posting like like like
your your your claps. Like they're
posting like the nice articles. And I'm
like, don't even post that because like
I don't even like just stay out of it.
Just let if people like it, let them
like it.
>> [clears throat]
>> Let people have their own opinions.
That's the best move. I don't have
anybody that does that.
>> I don't have any of that.
>> Do you post all your own stuff on
Instagram?
>> On Instagram, if I post it, it's from
me.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Always. Yeah. And then there's the
Joe Rogan Experience page that the staff
does, but that is just a clip from the
podcast. They take an interesting clip
where someone says something, it's put
up with no context. It just says, you
know, episode blah blah blah. That's it.
I try to do it as like natural and
neutral. If you like it, you don't like
it. If you don't like it, don't listen
to the next one. It's okay.
>> So, wait, what what is your what is the
impetus for you to post something like
like when at what point do you decide to
share your life?
>> Well, I just feel like if there's
something I think someone will think is
interesting or something that I would
like to see, if someone puts it on their
feed, I'll put it in there every night.
But I don't post that much because I
don't read that much. I stay off.
>> I don't think it's good for you. I think
it's not only do I not think it's good
for you, I think it's genuinely bad for
you.
>> And uh it gets in the way of all the
other stuff that I like to do. Um you
know, I'm busy, man. I'm busy. Um
there's a lot of interesting [ __ ] to pay
attention to in the world. I'm not one
of those things. I don't like paying
attention to me, you know, and reading
me or and I don't want to like go online
and see too many car crashes and people
getting shot and animal attacks. I get
Tommy and I have the worst [ __ ] text
message chain. he him and I all day
whenever he finds something like
unbelievably horrific, some guy getting
run over by a truck, he'll just send it
to me and then I'll send it to him and
we're always trying to one up each
other. So when I find something
absolutely horrible, someone says me
something absolutely horrible, I send it
to him and then we just that's like my
main source of like trauma online is my
Tom Seagora text message chain.
But other than that, I pretty much stay
off. I don't think it's good for you and
I I feel way better. I started doing it
a few months ago. It's like like a force
of habit. Like I'm looking at it all the
time. Let me just not look at it today.
And and then I did it another day and
another day. I'm like, "God, I feel
better. I feel better." Like I genuinely
feel better. It's like I'm getting over
a cold or something like that. And so I
said, "All right, well obviously like
engaging. Definitely don't read
anything. Like definitely don't like
read when people say things about you.
Definitely don't read when you you post
something. Read the comments. Don't do
any of that.
You know, people get wrapped up in it
and you realize like people are just
trying to take you down. There's so I
mean, not all of them. A lot of people
are supporting you, but it doesn't
matter if there's like 10 people that
love you and one person that hates you,
you're going to think about that one
person,
>> you know, which is nuts. But it's just
human nature.
>> It's crazy how that algorithm works is
that it's just like if the there's
someone in the front row that's not
laughing. Like last night, I had a
I don't know, it was the bottom of the
barrel and I don't know how rape came
up, but
>> it always does. And I was like, "Well,
there's no phones in here unless let's
go." I if I'm going to go for it, it's
in this room,
>> right?
>> And uh there was a woman that did not
like it. And she was a little vocal and
the crow, you know, the bouncer like,
"Yo, you know, let him, you know, was
working this out or whatever." And then
she's like, "I was told to shut up." And
then in the rest of the night, I'm
watching her out of the corner of my eye
going, "God damn it." And then I just
dug holes and holes and holes and and at
one point the whole audience is chanting
rape. And I'm like,
>> I'm like, "Guys, this is bad." But but
it's but it's it's uh it's funny. And
then also it's like listen, say you're
some [ __ ] dude looking for a
connection in life and you go to my page
and you leave a hundred comments and
they're like, [snorts] "You're the best
bird. I love you. When you come to
Cincinnati, I'm I'm going to be here.
Tampa, I'll be there, man. I'm going to
drive." And then the one time he's like,
"You're a [ __ ] bitch." And then I
reply. He's like, "Oh, I guess that's
how I get the cat to come outside." You
know?
>> So that's why I don't read I don't read
any comments.
>> Whitney was going into, you know, the
Whitney thing about Miss Rachel. I
didn't know who Miss Rachel is.
>> I found out who she is today. 1.8
billion views on how to say mom and dad.
And I was like, it makes sense, man.
>> Well, she's she's a an educator for
neurode divergent kids. Is that what it
is?
>> Yeah. I watched a couple of videos.
Pull up some videos of Miss Rachel
because after people were dra by the
way, the worst [ __ ] people were going
after her. people that I know that are
comedians that are just unbelievably
shitty, dishonest, disingenuous human
beings, bad faith communicators, people
that just like completely distort
anything about the person. Yeah.
>> And it's just because she's successful.
It's it's a giant part of it. And so
they see her making some crack about
Miss Rachel because she was watching it
with her kid. She didn't know what the
[ __ ] it is. So here's Miss Rachel. Let
me let me hear what this sounds like.
letters and two really special guests.
>> No,
>> no, not at all.
>> Dinosaurs.
>> I don't hear I don't hear anything in my
own microphone.
>> Can you help me count them?
>> Do you hear it?
>> But I don't hear you, B. There we go.
There we go.
>> 2
3
4 Four must be the number of the day.
The dinosaur eggs are hatching.
Wow. How many dinosaurs do we have?
[music]
>> One, two,
three, four.
>> Okay, pause.
>> Why would you go after this?
>> Like, this is like a little kid show.
Like, she must have been bored.
>> There's nothing different from this
Blues Clues in my opinion.
>> It's It's a show for little kids. Yeah.
Like, I don't get it.
>> I don't know. Maybe she was just trying.
>> She was trying to write a joke and
thought she'd get some traction. I guess
>> maybe she took two instead of one
[laughter] and then
>> she got a little extra energy. SHE TOOK
TWO.
>> I don't know what she's doing.
>> All of a sudden she's like, "Fuck Miss
Rachel." [laughter]
>> She took
>> But then she started responding to
people because she didn't understand
what it was she said. And then she took
it down and apologized. But you
>> that you can't apologize to the mob.
They come for you. They come for you.
And she learned. And I I texted her. I
said, "Listen, I love you to death. You
got to stop going back and forth with
these people. You can't do that. It's
not they don't this is not a genuine
conversation. They don't care if you're
like if you were a person and you were
someone's friend and you started
[ __ ] on Miss Rachel and someone said
actually that's like for kids with
learning disorders and you'd be like oh
[ __ ] I didn't know and that would be the
end of it
>> and then we'd laugh, you know. But these
people are not looking for a real
conversation. They're just looking to
destroy your life.
>> And then so many people like she lost
her career, career's over. Like what?
What? But you weren't going to see her
anyway, you [ __ ] [ __ ] Like what are
you talking about? You weren't you
weren't going to pay to see her anyway.
Stop saying her career's over. It's not
doing a damn thing to her career. You
just want it to be over because you live
a miserable [ __ ] life, which is why
you're on Threads 12 hours a day.
>> It's so funny you say that. I just read
something negative about Whitney on
Threads today. I was like, what does she
do,
>> bro? Threads is the worst.
>> And then I saw the Miss Rachel [ __ ] and
I watched a video. I had two kids. I
don't know. I look at that as I go,
that's nice.
>> If threads is like for people who
already been like humiliated on Twitter
and they're trying to find a new crowd.
Yeah.
>> It's very weird. Very very like so much
negativity. Not that Twitter isn't like
Twitter's super negative, too.
>> I haven't been on X.
>> I try to look at the news only. I try to
look at news and things that people are
exposing that's in the news, which is
very interesting. Speaking of which,
what was that thing that you found? Uh,
>> so this is very strange. This is about
people being able to communicate in
lucid dreaming.
>> True. I guess we'll find out later. But
>> scientists report first ever
communication between two humans during
sleep.
>> I'd love this.
>> Scientists say that science fiction may
be coming closer to reality. According
to reports, California startup claims it
successfully enabled two-way
communication between people while they
were lucid dreaming. Participants were
asleep in separate locations while
researchers monitored their sleep and
transmitted a coded word designed to be
perceived inside a dream without waking
them. The system reportedly re relied on
sensors, wireless communication,
and specialized software to detect dream
states and relay the message. The
company's founder says that what once
sounded like science fiction could soon
become a daily a part of daily life. No
independent scient but they're not
saying what happened. No independent
scientific replication has confirmed the
results yet. Still, the experiment
builds on real research showing that
interaction between lucid dreams is
possible. Yeah, but what is the
interaction?
>> The coded word, I guess, was it?
>> Did they relay the coded word to each
other? They both got the coded word.
>> That's where I started getting known
until weird space. But I found out this
was posted on Instagram like yesterday
or something.
>> Uh I Googled it. Press release was from
2024.
>> Breakthrough between breakthrough from
space. First ever communication between
people in dreams. So this is the article
about it in business wire. Lucid dreams
occur. Blah blah blah. Participants are
sleeping in their homes. Brain waves and
other polyoms
somnographic data were tracked remotely.
Specially designed uh developed
apparatus. When the server detected the
first participant entered a lucid dream,
it generated a How do they detect that
someone's in a lucid dream? Because a
lucid dream is a dream where you're
aware that you're dreaming.
>> Yes. It generated a random Remo word and
sent it to him via earbuds. Earbuds
participant repeated the word in his
dream with his response captured and
stored on the server. What? Eight
minutes later, the next participate uh
participant entered a lucid dream. She
received the stored message from the
first participant and confirmed it upon
awakening.
Huh.
It sounds like it sounds like they're
saying it in the room and the person's
grabbing it.
>> No, it's they're sending it through
earbuds.
>> Yeah. They were both in their own houses
as it said at the time.
>> Yeah. So, they receive it through
earbuds. He says it in the dream and
then she receives it.
>> Oh.
>> Huh. Well, you got to wonder what is
happening in dreams. Dreams are very
bizarre.
>> Have you ever lucid dreamed?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Not s I mean I I've done it
a couple of times, but I haven't on
purpose. And I've always wondered why
not. Like why haven't I read books on
lucid dreams? Why haven't I tried to do
it?
>> I think it's something that just
happens.
>> No, you could actually do it. You could
there's there's guys that practice lucid
dreaming.
>> I I mean I lucid dream pretty
extensively. Yeah.
>> Like I've ever since when I remember
when you came out with Alpha Brain,
you're one of the first things you said
it would help with lucid dreaming.
>> Oh, if you take it before bed, it
definitely helps with lucid dreaming.
>> Yeah. And I remember saying I didn't
know what lucid dreaming was at the time
and then I found out I was lucid
dreaming. And I've I've lucid dreamed my
my whole life, but now that once I knew
what it was, I could stay in a dream and
decide and I could go back into dreams.
I could restart a dream that I just had,
go back to sleep and go, I'm going back
in. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
>> It sounds crazy and I know it sounds
like horseshit, but I never knew what it
was. I never knew what it was until
Alpha Brain. There's actual techniques
that people practice and apparently they
give classes and courses on how to do
lucid books written on it because
there's there's real techniques on how
to lucid dream. I just never I I don't
know why. Like I when I'm tired I just
want to go to sleep. I go hard all day
and when I crash I just crash. I don't
want to be [ __ ] around and
experimenting while I'm sleeping. I just
want to go to sleep.
>> My lucid dreams primarily are either
like I'm I I realize I'm dreaming. I go,
"I'm asleep. I'm dreaming. This isn't
real. Oh [ __ ] I'm in control." And then
and then a lot of times it has to do
with [ __ ] like [laughter]
I'm like, "Oh, I I don't have to put a
condom on. This is great. This [ __ ] I
can't I'm going to bang all these
[ __ ] chicks in this room." And then
one time I had a lucid dream where I was
like, I could I was I knew I was
dreaming. I was outside. I had to go up
these steps into like an old cottage and
like one of those old Hollywood cottages
and I was like, I could have [ __ ] I
could have sex with anyone I want. And
in my dream, I was like, "Oh, I'll pick
your wife. How cool is that?
>> [snorts]
>> And then I went to this cottage. I know.
I [ __ ] my wife. How cool is that?
>> I know. I could have [ __ ] her in real
life. And then but a lot of my dreams
back in the day when we when I first
started lucid dreaming, I would always
decide to fly.
>> And I remember I remember I had one
right after we the first time I ever
tried Alpha Brain. I had one and I and
it was I was doing a photo shoot on
Melrose and I was like, I don't want to
be here. And then I was like, wait, I'm
dreaming. This isn't real. I was like,
I'm going to fly home. And so I just
leapt up in the air, started flying over
Hollywood and then over the hills and
then I was like, "Wait, I have no idea.
I have no frame of reference for where I
am." I was like, "It's getting dark."
And I was like, "Where's the 101?" And
then in the dream, I was just started
kept flying. And then I wake up shortly
thereafter. But it's a lot of like a lot
of sex and a lot of flying. [laughter]
A lot of people breathe underwater in
their dreams.
>> Uh, never breathe underwater.
>> Yeah. They breathe underwater in their
dreams. They fly. Flying is like really
common. I used to have like crazy
[ __ ] dreams. Like wild. I sold a TV
show to Comedy Central about my dreams.
Like I've had dreams where I wake up
laughing. I've had dreams where I wake
up crying. Like I've I I have
>> such insane [ __ ] dreams, but And I
And no one ever wants to I No one ever
wants to hear I would have dream joke
dreams like real joke dreams. Like I had
a dream. This is a real dream I had
where I was on stage and I was in a
dance position like this and uh there's
a I know this sounds horshit is a real
dream and uh and the curtain's drawn and
I look around and I see I'm standing on
stage with four or five dudes that are
all in clan outfits and I'm like oh
[ __ ] And I look down and I realize I'm
in a clan outfit and I'm like
[ __ ] And I'm like, I got to get
out of off stage. And the curtains draw
back. And I hear, and it's an all black
people. And I hear the voice, the voice
of God, ladies and gentlemen, put your
hands together for the click, clack
clan. And we started tap dancing. And we
were so good that the black people got
to their feet and they started cheering.
And we're like, oh my god. And so yeah,
that was and that was a real dream. I
woke up and I wrote it down. I used to
write down all my dreams, voice text
them. I used to voice text them all. I'd
have dreams about you and and Stan Hope
and Ro and uh and Joey Diaz. Like I I it
was like my whole world. I used to think
to myself like I I dream about Shaq the
other day. I was like I wonder if Shaq
ever dreams about me.
>> I bet he doesn't.
>> I bet he doesn't. [laughter]
>> Who's the Who's the Who's someone you've
had a dream about recently?
>> I don't really have dreams too many
dreams about people. Not people that I
know.
>> What are your dreams about?
>> My dreams are weird, man.
>> Like let's dig into this. I had a dream
that I came on the podcast I had to talk
about because it was the absolute
strangest most realistic dream of my
life and it was a dream where I
encountered these beings that were not
human and it was insanely realistic.
They were very humanlike. I think there
was four of them. They were tall and
thin and they look kind of they didn't
look human. Their heads were too big.
Their eyes are too big. And I can't I
think they had teeth. I don't remember.
But I remember they were joking with me.
Like they scared me and they like ah
just [ __ ] around like trying to get
me comfortable with who they are. And
they were communicating with me somehow
or another through thoughts. And uh I
was really freaked out because they
seemed very very real. They didn't seem
like any other dream that I had. So much
so that I woke up at like 3:30 in the
morning and I just lay in bed for an
hour trying to go back to sleep and I
couldn't go back to sleep. I was almost
like I'm not sleep. I'm wide awake. And
so I went to the gym and uh I just
worked out at 4 in the morning and I
worked out for like 2 hours and after it
was over I got in the sauna, did the
whole thing and then I came to work. I
was like I have to talk about this right
away cuz it was so strange. It was one
of the only dreams that I've ever had
that did not feel at all like a dream.
It felt like I was encountering someone
or something that was trying to get me
comfortable with the idea of
encountering them.
>> It wasn't It wasn't like a dream. It was
I was in the corridor of something that
seemed uh like it was it was not like it
was from here. It was like from
somewhere else, but it was almost like
it was very oddly lit. Like the walls
were lit in a very strange way, but it
was almost like it was was this
corridor, but it had a feeling almost
like it was organic, like it was alive,
like it was a living thing. It was very
[ __ ] strange.
>> What if what if that was But what if
that is something that you did in fact
experience that was taken out of your
memory and then it's stuck in your
memory and you're dreaming about it?
>> I
don't know. I mean, you could maybe all
day long, right? And so my feeling was
that I had and this is again it clearly
could was I was dreaming, right? So it
clearly could have been just a dream,
but what it felt like was that it was an
actual encounter with intelligence that
wasn't human. That's what it felt like.
And it felt like these things were not
they were not us. And maybe they were
what a human will be someday because
they were humanlike, but they were very
slender. They were very thin. And they
were wearing these suits that were like
almost like rash guards like what
surfers wear, but but but a strange
fabric like it looked weird. And it was
the color of their skin, but it was
clear that they were wearing something.
It didn't appear that they had any
genitals. They had no muscle tone at
all. They were just thin. And they were
communicating with me and looking at me
and they were they were close like where
you are right now. And I think like I
said I think it was at least three of
them. I think there was four of them.
But I remember there was one that was
going like like Jo and then like ah
joking around with me like trying to
scare me and then like pret like and it
felt to me after they did it like relax
like this is okay like don't be freaked
out whatever this is. Don't be freaked
out. And then I woke up and when I woke
and then there was also this weird
reptilian element of it. There was like
a barrier. They had a barrier and they
were feeding like with they were like
pouring food to these things that almost
like was letting me know the the
protection between you and this horrific
danger that's out there in
[clears throat] the world, in the
universe, in life is very it's very
thin. There's very thin protection.
There's not much protection. It was just
a like a like a barrier, like a a simple
barrier, like a you know, like a a
[ __ ] a blockade they put to keep a
crowd from passing through an area to
let you know you're not supposed to go
here.
>> It's crazy how it's crazy how much you
How long ago did you have this dream?
>> A few months ago,
>> but isn't it so wild that something that
didn't happen
>> Yeah.
>> can be locked in your memory and then
you just you're like, God, it affects
you almost like it did. Well, now it's
like a memory of my recollection of the
memory, which is odd, which is memories
in general, which is why people distort
memories and change them and make, you
know, make the past something that's not
real. You know, you've talked to people
that Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. We all do it.
>> I do it on podcasts.
>> Yeah. Everybody does it. But this was
different. This whatever this dream was.
I mean, look, there's a lot of
confusion about what happens during
sleep. you know, we don't exactly know
why you have dreams and what it's all
what what's the function of it, what's
the purpose of it. But this one was
different. It was much more realistic
than any dream I had ever experienced
before. Like the the interaction between
me and these these creatures, these
beings was very different than anything
I'd ever experienced in a dream. The
point like I I felt it physically and I
woke up. I can sleep on a bag of rocks.
I can just go to sleep, dude. I have my
It drives my wife crazy because she
struggles to sleep and I if we got on a
plane, I just I [snorts] just [ __ ] out
cuz I'm always going. So like when it's
time when it's downtime, I don't have a
problem sleeping, dog. I can go to
sleep. I'll sleep on a roof. I can
sleep. I couldn't go back to sleep,
which is really weird for me. I mean, I
was wide awake at 4 in the morning, you
know, and I'm like, "Okay, I'm I'm going
to the gym because I I laid in bed for a
whole hour trying to go back to sleep."
So, it's just a dream. Just go to sleep.
I'm like, "Dude, just get up. You're not
going to sleep." And I'm like, "All
right, well, I'm up. I'll just go work
out. Like, maybe that'll help me go to
sleep." Nope. I was wide awake. Wide
awake. I I wasn't even Most of the time
when I'm working out, I'm either
watching music or watching fights on TV.
I didn't even do that. I was just by
myself in silence trying to make sense
of it. Just doing chin-ups and dips and
trying to make sense of whatever the
[ __ ] that was cuz it just didn't seem
like a dream. It felt so real. It felt
so real. And when I've talked to like my
UFO friends like like Jesse Michaels is
like really into UFOs. He's like, "I
think you had a real encounter." I'm
like, "I don't know." You know, I don't
know what it was, but it certainly felt
like a real encounter, whatever it was.
Do you listen to anything while you
sleep or you sleep in the silence? Oh, I
listen to podcast so I'll have drinks
>> while you're sleeping.
>> Always.
>> That's so ridiculous.
>> I listen to
>> That's so unhealthy.
>> I listen to a podcast about Rasputin
last night. [laughter]
>> I listen You
>> ever see his dick? They have his dick
pickled in a jar.
>> Are you sering
chicks?
>> Are you sure?
>> I don't know.
>> I think he was fine.
>> It's not It's not in the
>> the giant hog like that. I think he's
put it to use. Find Rasputin's hog.
>> But he was That's what he did. I would
love to see his dick.
>> You'll see it. That's look at the size
of that hog.
>> By the way, that's limp and dead.
Imagine what that thing looked like when
it was hard. Look at that. Look on that
guy's face. Look at the size of this
coke. Look at this coke. Big old [ __ ]
pickled.
>> That's a big dick.
>> And I mean, like again, this is like a
dead man's dick. So there's no blood in
it at all. You imagine what that thing
was like hard. Big old Russian dick.
>> Big old axe handle. Thank god that
wasn't my dream.
>> So he was, you know, he was like, what
does it say? Rasputin's alleged genitals
was sold in 2000 for $8,000. Still
surrounded by mystery with some experts
believing it might actually belong to a
bull. Shut up.
>> They had a hard time killing him.
>> Yeah, they try to poison him, right?
>> And they shoot him at the end and then
throw him in the [ __ ] river.
>> Well, Russians are different white
people.
>> Ah, that's the joke I missed last night.
>> What? There was in the bottom of the
barrel they were like uh Trump versus
Putin and I was like and I was thinking
about Rasputin but I was thinking but I
was like Trump Russians are hard to kill
and then I just went on to [ __ ]
>> what what was this thing he was like a
spiritual advisor.
>> Oh Joe that's a great topic. I'll tell
you everything you know.
>> Yeah he was a self-described holy man
>> and he was from 1869 to 1966.
>> He was from Siberia. Uh so he gained
significant influence with Zar Nicholas
II after 1905 rapidly earning the trust
of both Nicholas himself and his wife
Alexandra. He became a healer in quotes
for their hemophiliac son Alexi. What
what was happening was Alexi was getting
given aspirin by the doctors and
Rasputin came in and was like yo get the
doctors away from him and he was a
hemophiliac. He had internal bleeding.
And when they removed the aspirin, which
is a blood thinner, he the kid started
to heal. And so the Zarina said, "He's
magic." Even like at one point the kid
was going to die and he wrote a letter
and he said, "Leave, tell the your kid's
going to be fine. I had a dream about
it, but get the doctors out of there."
And the doctors were always giving him
aspirin and that was what was injuring
the kid. They're all all the royalty at
that time were hemophiliacs.
>> What?
>> Yeah. Because of the inbreeding. That's
why they didn't have chins. They had
long noses and they were all
hemophiliacs.
>> Oh god.
>> And so uh but what's crazy is the
Russian so she loved Rasputin and would
write letters to Rasputin that kind of
sound a little sketchy but then all of
the all of Russia started thinking this
healer has an end to the Zar and the
Zarina. So all of a sudden this healer
is running the country. What they didn't
know they couldn't tell anyone no our
kid's a [ __ ] hemophiliac. They
couldn't tell anyone that because then
they looked weak. Oh,
>> and so, so in a weird way, Rasputin got
kind of thrown to the wolves cuz they
couldn't tell him why we why they needed
him. That she wasn't [ __ ] him. That
their marriage was intact.
>> How do you know she wasn't [ __ ] him
with that big old giant dick? That
probably the guy was laying pipe.
>> He might have been.
>> He probably was.
>> She wrote a letter that says like, "Kiss
your like she wrote a letter and
translation was like, kiss your cheek
gently."
>> Oh, yes.
>> Some [ __ ] Yeah,
>> he [ __ ] her.
>> There was It was Katherine the Great
that [ __ ] a horse.
>> I heard about that. Yeah.
>> Didn't she die [ __ ] a horse? I think
so. I went to that barn in Russ when I
was in Russia. We went to that barn.
>> If you you imbreeded, you know, multiple
generations in a row and then give them
ultimate power. They're going to start
[ __ ] horses.
>> I mean, what what kind of life is that?
What kind [snorts] of weird world is
that? You're born royal.
>> It's insane.
>> You know what I'm watching again?
>> What?
>> Game of Thrones. Started it all from the
beginning.
>> Are you serious?
>> [ __ ] amazing. We're on season two
now.
>> You Wait, your family?
>> Yeah. Me and my wife. It's so good,
dude. We did it with the girls on
vacation,
>> bro. Whoever that dude is that played
Joffrey, that guy should get all the
awards.
>> Yeah,
>> he's so good. His transition from being
a like a shitty kid to an evil king is
[ __ ] amazing. It's a He the way he
plays Joffrey is [ __ ] incredible.
>> Yeah.
>> I forgot how good that show is. It's one
of the greatest shows of all time.
>> But you'll never you'll never see him as
anything other than Joffrey.
>> Problem. Yeah, that's a problem for a
lot of people that have like significant
like Kramer like you know like
>> two things.
>> A couple things. This is the other
thing. Do you know he wrote a book and
didn't mention that in the book?
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> That's interesting.
>> Yeah. Somebody read the book. One one of
the comics read the book. He's like I'm
waiting for that to come up. He goes he
never [ __ ] brings it up.
>> What's the What's the title? A tell all
book except for one thing.
>> Except [laughter] for the [ __ ]
biggest thing that's ever happened.
>> Biggest thing that ever happened in my
life.
>> Not only that, it was the first
cancellation. The first public
cancellation.
>> Was that really the first cancellation?
>> Oh, yeah. Through viral video. The first
public cancellation through viral video
>> because I I remember that night because
uh I think I was at the improv and then
I came over to the store.
>> I do remember that night
>> and Brett Ernst was at the store. He had
just come over from the Laugh Factory.
He goes, "Bro," he goes, "I was just at
the Laugh Factory." He goes, "Kramer was
off the rails." He goes, he went nuts.
He got heckled. He start yelling the
n-word at these [ __ ] people in the
audience. I GO, "NO." HE GOES, "DUDE, it
was [ __ ] crazy." He goes, "He was
bombing and they were heckling him." And
then he starts dropping end bombs. I'm
like, "No way." He goes, "Yeah, I don't
know what the [ __ ] he was on, but he he
did a set at the store. He seemed a
little a little speedy, a little, you
know, a little elevated." And then left
the store, bombed the store, and went
over to the Laugh Factory. And that was
that night
>> he did uh he was at the improv the
weekend before and I was there and he
was he was doing stand up but he was
doing a a version of Kramer a version of
like crazy and he fell on a glass
>> and broke the glass and cut him and but
everyone laughed and I think everyone's
like I think he's bleeding
>> but it was like really off. Well, he was
doing really off stuff from the jump.
Like [snorts] he came to the store. I
think he just decided to start doing
standup because Seinfeld had been
cancelled for a long time. Want to start
doing something again. And he started
doing stand up, but he didn't have any
material. He would just kind of fall
down. It was weird. He would like
pretend that something went wrong and
like try to do the mic stand and slip
and fall. It was very odd. Which is also
my theory that I've been telling
everybody about Chevy Chase.
>> Okay. I'd love to hear that. So
everybody is talking about what a
terrible person Chevy Chase is and you
know there's all these videos that come
out of him screaming at people and being
mean and you know
>> I saw one with Bill Murray, Rodney
Dangerfield and him
>> where it's like back right when they're
promoting Catty Shack and he just yells
at some other guy right some other guy
that's on the set
>> and this is my take on it.
>> I want you to pull up the
like a compilation of Chevy Chase's
Pratt falls. Okay, Chevy Chase has to be
in constant pain. Has to be. He has to
be in constant pain and almost 100% has
CTE. Chevy Chase used to throw himself
down flights of stairs. He used to throw
himself off the stage into chairs and
tables. He used to like slip, go flying
through the air, land on his head. The
most
ridiculous Pratt falls. the most
aggressive violent Pratt falls you've
ever seen. And he did this for years.
Yeah. For years. Like he was in a car
crash multiple times a week for years.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. I mean, maybe he had a shitty
personality already.
>> Well, I think he was he was also that
first generation of what fame is. Like
he was the most famous person to ever
come off SNL ever. Like his walking off
SNL was like,
>> "Get ready for a movie star." And I
don't think I don't think we'll ever I I
won't ever understand the level of fame
he had
>> at the time.
>> Like like his fame was like and this is
also I mean like look I love Bert
Reynolds
>> but but Steve Martin was super famous
too and he's not a [ __ ] No.
>> You know what I mean? It's like I don't
think that's it. I want to I want you to
see these videos.
>> I don't know why I can't find a
compilation. I can find a bunch of
videos of it but
>> just you I know there's a compilation
because I've seen it. I just typed it in
and the video that pops up only has it's
a 4-minute video of him on Johnny
Carson.
>> No, I'm just I know
>> I'm telling you there's
>> there's a bunch
there's a bunch.
>> Gerald Ford that was Gerald Ford fell,
right?
>> So he would Yeah, cuz Gerald Gerald Ford
was kind of like Biden. He would fall a
time. So here is
>> worst, dude.
>> Look at that. You know how hard he falls
there? Look, go back and watch that
again. Watch. Watch how hard he falls
when he does this. This is him doing
this Christmas.
>> What happened?
>> I lost it.
>> The Christmas thing that you just
showed.
>> I I'm telling you, it just accidentally
disappeared.
>> Joe,
>> you could find it.
>> There it is.
>> Okay, watch this. Watch this. Watch him
fall. Boom. Head first with the tree.
Falls down. Barely stops his fall.
Chvy Chase worst wrestling moments from
Saturday Night Live. Like this is just
this is him just stumbling around. This
is nothing. But there's videos of him
>> therapy session.
>> Okay. Obviously that chair is going to
break. [cheering]
No, this is not what I'm looking for.
See if you can find it. Find it and get
back to us. But there's I know there's
videos of him like literally like flying
off stage, landing on his back,
slipping, legs up in the air, landing on
a ladder.
>> Yeah.
>> I I fell I had to fall off a ladder for
a TV show one time. They're like, "We
need you to fall." And they had a a
crash pad.
>> It you get four steps up a ladder,
you're high as [ __ ]
>> Well, even if you have a crash pad, your
head is wobbling around, right? So your
brain is sloshing around from the
impact. This is one of the things that
people don't realize. Like football
players get brain damage from getting
hit in the chest. So CTE you can get
from riding a jet ski, from bouncing on
the waves. It's your brain walking,
[ __ ] bouncing around off the walls of
your skull,
>> from roller coasters.
>> You can get it from everything. You can
get it from a lot of things. Repeated
subconcussive trauma. But he fell and
landed on his [ __ ] head. Yeah. And if
you find the video that's a compilation,
there's a compilation of people like the
worst falls of Chevy Chase. And it's
crazy. And he did this for years. That
was his thing. Slip and fall. Slip and
fall. Slip and fall.
>> And tons of coke.
>> All those things. So slip and fall.
Allegedly. Tons of coke.
>> Allegedly.
>> Allegedly. I mean, I don't know. I mean,
>> I've read some books.
>> Yeah. But that the book on do you know
what happened when Bill Murray was here?
When he was talking
>> Are you talking about Bill? I love that
book. So when he read Wired, he read So
the guy who wrote Wired was Bob
Woodward. Bob Woodward was the guy that
was involved in Watergate. He was the
naval intelligence officer who became a
journalist and his first ever assignment
was to take down the president, which is
very suspicious. Like Tucker Carlson
told me the whole story behind it. I was
like, "What?" The people that were break
that broke in were all FBI. The whole
thing was a setup. It was to set Nixon
up and they had already gotten rid of
Spiro Agnu who was his VP. They got him
on I think corruption charges. I forget
what it was.
>> Didn't Kennedy put the the bug system in
there? Wasn't the It was the president
before that put the put the wire the
wiring in the inside the room, right?
>> What room
>> in Watergate? Didn't was didn't
>> No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, it was a
setup. Nixon was not involved in the
setup, but they told him about what
happened and then he was involved in the
cover up. That's how they got him. Okay.
That's how they got him and that's how
he got removed from office.
>> And the recordings were from his office,
right?
>> The recordings were from the Democratic
party. So he was recording the
Democratic Party. He was recording he
was secretly recording the opposition
party, but he didn't do it. So the FBI
did it and then they brought it to him
knowing that he would cover it up and
that's where he committed the crime.
like instead of coming out and saying,
"Hey, some people have uh recorded these
people." Even if he did that, they would
have said he was involved. But the the
whole thing was to get him out of
office. The reason why they wanted to
get him out of office because he was
publicly and privately stating, at least
amongst other people that were in the
White House and that he knew who killed
JFK and he was going to get to the
bottom of it because look, JFK had just
been killed. He ran against JFK in six
in 1960 or ' 62. 62. What year was it?
Either way, I think it was 60. He ran
against JFK and then JFK gets
assassinated and now he's the president.
And when he's the president, he was
publicly stating or privately stating to
different people like he was going to
get to the bottom of it. And he knew who
killed JFK. He was like in investigating
it. He was interested in it obviously
because he was worried they were going
to kill him. And so then they set him up
and they removed him from office and
they put Gerald Ford in as his VP.
Gerald Ford was also on the Warren
Commission. Like the whole thing was a
giant setup to get rid of the most
popular president in the history of the
country, you know, and everybody's like,
"Oh, Nixon's a crook. Nixon's a I'm not
a crook." That was all like his gigantic
propaganda PR campaign to remove Nixon
from office. It was all a deep state
operation.
>> Wow.
>> Nixon won the presidency like the widest
margin of anybody in history. He was the
most popular president in history. And
in today's days, we think of Nixon as
being a crook and a scumbag, but he
didn't even do it. He was just involved
in the cover up when they brought it to
him.
>> Was like, what is he going to do? He's
running for president again to
re-election and they're saying, you
know, hey, these guys, they busted these
guys recording things like cover it up,
cover it up, cover it up. And so that's
how they got him.
>> And what was his post presidency like?
>> So, what do you mean? Let me finish.
Sorry. So, uh, before I go any further,
so Bill Murray is here and he said he
read the first couple pages of Wired
>> and he goes he put it down. He goes, "Oh
my god, they framed Nixon." That was the
first thing that he said.
He said because the version that Bob
Woodward told of John Belalushi, his
very good friend, was so wildly off. He
goes, "That time where John did that
speedball and died was probably the only
time where he ever did that." He goes,
"He was a total lightweight. He would
have a couple of drinks and he'd be
drunk. He wasn't a guy who did drugs all
the time." He goes, "It was all
bullshit."
>> Are you serious?
>> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Do you realize like guys like Chris
Farley literally idolized John Belalushi
because of books like Wired?
>> Exactly. Exactly. And Well, the
difference is Chris Farley really was
doing drugs
>> myself. I idolized John Belalushi. I
read Wired when I was in college and was
like, "Dude, this is I mean, there's so
many aspects of my personality that I
draw from a book like that of like the
way he was comfortable in an agent's
office and and B12 shots I get because
of John Blushi."
>> Well, I'm sure he did all those things
and I'm sure he partied, but like the
version this this exaggerated version of
just being completely out of control on
drugs was fake. And this is according to
Bill Murray who was best friends with
him. He's like, "It's not true." It's
like if somebody tried to write
something about you and I read it and I
was like, "This is not Bird at all." So
his initial thought was, "Oh my god,
they framed Nixon."
>> Jesus Christ.
>> And they did. They did frame Nixon. See
if you can find the video of Tucker
Carlson explaining to me how they frame
Nixon.
>> I have a copy of Wired in my tour bus.
>> Yeah. Don't read it.
>> I'm going to get rid of it. Bob Bob
Woodward was an intelligence agent 100%.
He was naval intelligence and then he
left from that which he never really
leave and then he became a reporter for
the Washington Post
>> and his first job was Watergate
>> which is nonsense.
>> That's a [ __ ] insane.
>> There's no way you would a senior
reporter would be covering the most
important story. You wouldn't give it to
a rookie whose first assignment
>> that's and what about what's Bernstein?
What about him?
>> I don't know
>> cuz didn't they write it together?
>> Yeah, they did. I mean, I don't
>> And Deep Throat was their Did we ever
find out who Deep Throat was?
>> Yeah. Listen to this, though.
>> This is seven minutes long and watch the
whole thing.
>> Let's listen to some of it because it's
interesting.
>> That's what it is. It's their tool and
they're perfectly aware of that. I mean,
I used to write for the New York Times
as a freelancer. I mean, I've been
around the New York Times a lot. And
there uh yeah, there are a lot of really
smart people there for sure. Even now, I
would less so now, but there's still, I
think, smart people there. There are I
know some and they know but they think
that that you know it's worth it because
they're bringing information or I don't
know what they think actually
>> but no they're they're tools
of power and that's like the one thing
that you're not allowed to be even if
you think the power is good like maybe
they all support the agenda of the US
government destabilizing the world and
impoverishing their own population maybe
they're on board with that
even if they are they shouldn't do it
because the job of the media the
is to keep power in check. You are kind
of like the seat belt, right? You know,
you make sure that
things don't go too far. So, um, and
they're not doing that. They're acting
as a willing handmaidaiden.
>> When do you think that switched?
>> I think it's been the case for a long
time. I mean, if you look at what
happened to Richard Nixon, which I of
course did not understand at all, um
Richard Nixon was taken out by the FBI
and CIA and um with the help of Bob Bob
Woodward, who was a Washington Post
reporter who had been a naval
intelligence officer working in the
White House, working in the Nixon White
House. And then he shows up like a year
later and he's this brand new reporter,
never been a journalist at all. He's a
naval intel officer, the famous Bob
Woodward we all rever,
and he's at the Washington Post, and
somehow he gets the biggest story in the
history of the Washington Post. He's the
lead guy in that story. Well, I I worked
at a newspaper. I've been in the news
business my whole life. That is not how
it works. You don't take a kid like his
first day from a totally unrelated
business and put him on the biggest
story. But he was he was that guy. And
who is his main source for Watergate?
Oh, the number two guy at the FBI.
Oh, so you have the naval intelligence
officer working with the FBI official to
destroy the president. Okay, so that's a
deep state coup. What else? How would
you describe that? If that happened in
Guatemala, what would you say? And yet
the way it was framed and the way that I
accepted for decades was, oh, this
intrepid reporter fought power. No, no,
no. This intrepid reporter, Bob
Woodward, was a tool of power, secret
power, which is the most threatening
kind, to bounce the single most popular
president in American history, Richard
Nixon, from office before the end of his
term, and replace him with who? Oh,
Gerald Ford, who sat on the Warren
Commission. Now, how did Gerald Ford get
to be Richard Nixon's vice president?
Well, because Carl Albert, the Democrat
speaker of the house, told him, "You
must choose him. We will only confirm
him when they sent the actual elected
vice president away for tax evasion.
Spiro Agnu of Maryland. So you have a
complete setup like an abs Gerald Ford
the only unelected president in American
history actually sat on the Warren
Commission. Something else that I
accepted at face value until I looked at
it and I was like that's completely
insane. You didn't want to interview
Jack Ruby in your investigation the
assassination? Okay, you're fake. Yeah,
he was on the Warren Commission. And so,
uh, sorry for the long story, but the
point is like that that happened in
front of all of us, but the way it was
framed cloaked the obvious reality of
it. The people who broke into the
Watergate office building from which the
name is taken, Watergate
was, I think it was six of them or seven
of them, all but one was a CIA employee.
That that's real. It's like, look it up
on Google. So the whole thing, Richard
Nixon was elected by more votes than any
president in American history in the
1972 election. He was the most popular
by votes, which is the only way we can
really measure popularity. The most
popular president
in his re-election campaign and two
years later, he's gone. Undone by a
naval intel officer, the number two guy
at the FBI, and a bunch of CIA
employees. You tell me what that is.
Those are the facts. Those are not
disputed facts. That's not crackpot
[ __ ] That's just look it up.
>> So why did they want to get rid of
Nixon?
>> Um, you know, there are a lot of
theories on that. I mean, we don't,
first of all, we don't need to know
motive to know what happened. They,
meaning unelected federal employees got
rid of Richard Nixon, which is the most
anti-democratic way to make a leadership
change that there is. Okay. I should
just say at the I actually kind of
believe in democracy. Obviously, it's
not working well. Obviously, it's ending
globally. There will never be another
liberal democracy, unfortunately. But
I'm attached to it cuz I was born here.
I really believe in it and it's better
than any other system. So, that's why
I'm pissed. What was their motive?
There are a lot of theories on this.
There's an amazing conversation. It's on
tape um between Richard Nixon when he
was still president. I think it was in
1973, and I think it was Richard Helms,
the head of the CIA, though I may have
[ __ ] that up, but it was the head of
the CIA. I think it was Helms. Um, and
Nixon says, "I know why they killed Jack
Kennedy." So Nixon was a student of
history, obviously a flawed and
complicated person, but a very, very
smart person. And he was really
interested in why this guy who'd been
president, just one president before
him, was murdered. And he didn't think
it was a lone gunman who was
mysteriously assassinated two days later
by another lone gunman. Like, it's so
obviously [ __ ] and he knew that and
he said to the SEA director who and you
can listen to the tape it's on the
internet is totally silent on this
question. So I think there was the
impression I don't think I know that
Nixon understood that the bureaucracy
was really in control of the country. It
wasn't elected officials and that's a
massive threat. Um because it's true.
>> That's good.
>> So
>> dude [clears throat]
>> that's all media.
>> Yeah. all media takes their slant and
their angle and decides they're going to
dictate it their way as opposed to I I
don't I don't even know I I don't even
know of a journalist that I mean no one
there's no one that sits objectively and
watches anything anymore.
>> No, not in mainstream media.
>> No, absolutely.
>> You saw what they did with the photo of
that kid who got shot, that pretty guy
who got shot in Minneapolis.
>> MSNBC doctorred his photo and made him
better looking. fixed his teeth, squared
his jaw, gave him a tan. You haven't
seen it?
>> No. Please pull that up.
>> We We showed it yesterday, but we'll
show it again today. The before and
after. It's in the text that I sent.
Yeah. It's [ __ ] crazy. Look at the
difference.
>> What?
>> Yeah. It's him on the left. He looks
like Ari's brother. On the right, he he
looks like some [ __ ] handsome
Crossfitter. Like, look at the
difference. Look at the teeth. Look at
the nose. They shrunk his nose. They
widened his jaw. They shrunk his chin.
That's crazy.
They decided he was too ugly to be
sympathetic towards.
>> So, so then, so then
[sighs and gasps] Man, this kind of bums
me out that you I mean, I I always kind
of had hopes up that if I turned on, if
I turned on the news, I'd hear some
objective rant or some objectiveness of
anything, but there's none.
>> Yeah. You got to go independent. You got
to go to Glenn Greenwald and Michael
Shelonburgger and people like that, Matt
Taiibbe. You got to go to independent
journalists. The only ones that are
going to give you the real deal. People
that are connected to giant corporations
that their job is to distribute the
news. They're not going to give you.
They're going to give you a narrative
that's approved. Who was Deepth Throat?
Because Deep Throat was exposed. They
did eventually expose Deep Throat. And
it's even more shocking when you find
out who Deep Throat was.
>> I saw the movie. That's a different
movie.
>> That's about suck and [ __ ]
>> That was a good one.
>> Well, the the name Deep Throat was
because in nod to the movie.
>> Oh, for real?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the the
movie came out first. Um [ __ ] was
uh W. Mark felt the number two official
at the FBI during Watergate, who
secretly provided key information to
Washington Post reporter Bob Woodburn.
So, the FBI was involved in the breakin.
The number two official at the FBI was
the guy who is providing information
under the name Deepth Throat. So the FBI
did it. They did the whole thing.
>> Is that your phone?
>> It's Yeah, I'm an old man. Joe FBI.
>> It's the FBI. You said FBI too many
times.
>> How Who's calling you when it's on do
not disturb? It might be the FBI.
>> Spam risk. Should I answer?
>> No.
>> Why is it I don't understand. You put it
on. I have no idea, Joe. I'm old.
>> They're hacking it.
>> I'm [ __ ] I got I need They probably do.
That's a weird ring though.
>> That's an old man ring
>> cuz my wife doesn't answer a [ __ ]
phone. So, I turned her ring to that.
So, she changed my ring to that.
>> We're two old [ __ ] people.
>> So, then what's the fix? How do I trust
anyone?
>> You have to trust independent news,
independent media that's not connected
to any corporation. Because as soon as
you're connected to a corporation,
you're connected to advertisers. As soon
as you connected to advertisers, the a
giant percentage of advertisers on
television is pharmaceutical drug
companies, major corporations. So you
have things that you're not allowed to
touch. That's why you never hear
anything in all the news about vaccine
injuries. You never never hear about all
these people that are having strokes,
all these people that the rise in heart
attacks, the rise in myocarditis,
particularly amongst young people, blood
clots.
>> That's what we were talking about. I got
backed like four times
>> like boosters from W. Johnson. Johnson
Johnson.
>> Mhm.
>> And uh that's the first thing they say
when they start looking at blood counts.
They're like, "Do you get vaccinated?"
And I was like, "Yeah, four times." Even
doctors like f you didn't need to do it
four times.
>> Yeah. Well, I don't know why you did
that.
>> Cuz you had to get no goddamn concert.
You had to show
>> You didn't have to have four of them to
get in a concert.
>> I had a TV. First one was real early.
Like I got it when when you were gotten
cancelled for getting it.
>> They're like just just Mexican people.
And I just went in with a mask on like,
"Hola." And got a [ __ ] shot in East
LA cuz I had to go shoot a movie.
>> Oh wow.
>> They're like, "Do not show your [ __ ]
face." And I was like, "I won't. I
won't."
>> Why not show your face?
>> Cuz it was like it was back when it was
like uh it was just um what was it? Need
not needy workers. What is it called?
The remember remember the first round of
>> workers.
>> It was like like people you need in the
country, you know?
>> Right. Essential essential workers.
Yeah.
>> And then I was shooting a movie so they
got me a pass to get a
>> Oh, so you got it when you weren't
supposed to get it?
>> Yeah. way early. Way early.
>> Oh, interesting.
>> And then and then I got it I got it. I
had to get it again in Serbia
>> for a movie.
>> And Yeah. And that's when
>> they made you get it again.
>> Again?
>> Yeah.
>> And then I got it when I came home. And
then I got it one more time.
>> Mo AR told me he had to do it. He had to
get boosted before they let him do his
Netflix series.
>> Yeah. Doesn't even make Why? Meanwhile,
he'd had COVID. He'd recovered.
He had CO when we were all doing those
concerts. When me and Chappelle and him
and a bunch of other guys were were
doing those pandemic concerts, he got
CO. So there was no reason for him to
get boosted.
>> I got boosted four times. I got CO 11
times.
>> God.
>> Like what I mean it's like [ __ ]
>> so crazy.
>> It's crazy. When I had COVID when I was
shooting Free Bert.
>> Jesus.
>> I gave it to a bunch of people.
They were like you got a cough. And I
was like ah it's fine. D you want to get
tested? I was like, "No, I'm not getting
tested."
>> But the first thing like my wife asked
me wearing a condom. I was like, "We're
good, guys."
>> And uh and then I I gave it to one of
the dudes, I think, and the dude was
wearing a mask. He was the only one that
got it.
>> Shout out to my buddy.
>> Well, he probably had gotten boosted a
bunch of times.
>> I should tell everyone to watch Freeird
on Netflix. I That's I I should say
that. But keep going. Can I tell you
something I'm I'm obsessed with that
I've been dying to talk to you about.
So, like, uh, I watched the I've been
watching I've been watching a lot of UFC
lately and and and [snorts] I I want
your perspective because I'm thinking of
this globally like Jordan, they compare
Jordan and LeBron James, right? And they
compare Tom Brady to to Joe Montana and
the big argument they always say is,
well, you know, Tom Brady couldn't play
in the league Joe Montana played in
because the rules were different. They
got [ __ ] up left and right. Right.
Okay.
>> And like they were concussions and there
was no roughing the passer. You could
hit the quarterback late, all that [ __ ]
>> right?
>> Well, what about UFC? Because like how
would say, and I don't mean slanderous,
I just curious, okay,
>> someone like Tank Tank Abbott or or Dan
Severson or or Hoist Gracie, how would
they fare against say the the fighters
that are fighting today?
>> Well, it really all depends on whether
or not they I think Tank Abbott would do
really well. I think Tank Abbott would
do really well because the heavyweight
division is the most shallow division.
Like would he do really well against the
guys like Sirill Gan or Tom Aspenol?
Probably not. But he didn't do really
well against guys like Maurice Smith,
you know, the real elite strikers of the
day. But Tank Abbott was a [ __ ] huge
man. I mean, he was enormous powerful
guy who had ridiculous knockout power
and he would brawl and anybody who brawl
like look at Derrick Lewis. Derrick
Lewis has the most knockouts in the
history of the UFC and he's not like the
most highly skilled guy in the sport.
He's just a really big powerful guy who
has unbelievable knockout power and he's
still
>> relatively successful even today. He has
the most knockouts in the history of the
heavyweight division. But Tank Abbott
would still [ __ ] a lot of people up in
the lower ranks of the heavyweight
division. Dan Severn would still take a
lot of people down and beat their asses
because he was an elite wrestler. Like
those kind of skills, Mark Coleman would
take a lot of people down and beat their
asses. those skills that they have like
the elite wrestlers and the the really
powerful punchers they would always do
well. Hois Gracie um if first of all if
he was fighting in the UFC he would be
fighting without a ghee so that would be
different right so he relied on the ghee
a lot because he would get a hold of
guys and they would grab the ghee like
instinctively and he like great like
that's part that's what he wanted and
then and then once it went to the ground
I mean it was like a man and a child
like his jiu-jitsu was so good and for
the time no one even knew jiu-jitsu
So he was a black belt against white
belts and he was just tapping out
everybody. Nobody had a chance
>> in this day and age. That's just not the
case anymore. Hoist Gracie still,
>> if he was alive today, I or not he's
alive today. If he's of course he's
alive today. If he was competing today,
if he was a young man competing today,
he would still give hell to a lot of
people in an appropriate weight class if
it went to the ground because his
jiu-jitsu is so good. His striking was
always a means to an end. his striking.
He would put go at a distance, he would
kick at your legs, but he was his whole
thing was about closing the distance,
getting you to the ground, strangling
you, getting you in you an arm bar,
tapping you out in a triangle,
jiu-jitsu. So, he was a pure jiu-jitsu
fighter. And if it went to the ground
today, he would still give real problems
to a lot of fighters cuz he was that
good. He was that good at the on the
ground. And today, with the difference
in training partners, he'd be even
better.
>> Yeah. I'm I'm reading this book by uh
Wright Thompson. You know that dude?
He's he wrote Papy Land?
>> No.
>> But he's it's he's talking about Jordan
in this book
>> and how at 50 Jordan had a hard time
like going to the next phase of his
life. He still was like, "What if I put
him on? What if I put I want to go?"
>> Of course. He's a champion.
>> Happens with fighters, too.
>> Oh, yeah. I mean, you go back to Shannon
Sharp and he's doing better now
financially than he ever did, but I bet
he'd trade it all just
>> Yeah. It's the glory of sport. It's like
there's nothing else like those highs.
>> Those high especially for a fighter when
you're like Justin Gatechi this weekend
who beat Patty Pimble. Crazy fight. That
guy when it was over the the happiness
that he had, the smile on his face, he
was so I mean he was just in a high like
nothing else in life. It's hard for
those guys to put that away. It's hard
for those guys to let that go.
>> Yeah.
>> And their identity is completely wrapped
around the fact that they're an elite
fighter. How did you not How did you not
have your identity about your career?
Because you I I know you pretty well and
you never really like it's tough to
disconnect your identity to your career
or your dreams or your hopes, which I
think fighters it's easy to understand.
Athletes, it's easy to understand, but I
think it happens with comedians and and
actors and even podcasters to say, "How
did you not do that?"
>> Well, I don't know. Um, I recognize the
pitfalls in it, but I also recognize
that at the end of the day, you're just
a human being. And I think, man, I I've
said this a million times and I I'm
sorry I have to repeat it, but I think
brutal workouts are what center me. It's
the one thing that centers me more than
anything in life cuz I do to myself, I
humble myself all the time. like I break
myself. I break myself down all the time
so that like when life comes or like all
that other stuff seems like something I
do. It's fun. It's great. It's but I'm
just me. I'm just a human being. I'm I'm
me in the 10th round when I want to quit
and the bell goes off and I know I have
to hit the bag for three more minutes,
you know? Like I know who I am. Like I
don't need my career to tell me who I am
and I have enough [ __ ] you money that I
could just sail off into the sunset.
Bye-bye.
>> Do you think you will? No,
>> no,
>> no. Why I like this? Yeah, it's fun. I
thought about it. I've thought about a
bunch of things doing different things.
If I had multiple lives, I would live a
bunch of different lives.
>> Oh, tell me about one.
>> I'd be a professional pool player.
That's what I I would like to do. Yeah,
I'd like to go on the tour, play
professional pool. If I just had like a
year to really practice, I think I could
do it. It's just there's no way. There's
no money, there's no time, there's no.
So, I just have to like keep that one in
my head as a hobby and make sure I don't
get too addicted to it. You know, my
problem is I get addicted to things and
then I just like obsess on them and then
the the weird part of my brain that
focuses obsessively on things, it would
just overcome all the rest of my life
and it would just be this one thing that
I think of. I allow that in bursts. Like
I allow that like when I was getting
ready for my comedy special, my live
special, that was my whole life. I
didn't think about anything else other
than doing that set. Like when I go
hunting, I don't think about anything
else other than getting in shape,
shooting perfect arrows, getting ready
to hunt. I I allow myself these brief
moments of obsession, but I I have to be
careful. I have to be careful with my
brain.
>> Your your brain's fascinating. I wish I
listened to you more. Like when we were
younger, you said stuff that I just was
like, that's not right.
>> Like what? [laughter]
>> It might not be right for you. That's
the thing. I wish I had you. I remember
I remember one time you're like you're
like you're you're working too hard. You
should be your focus should be be less
famous. And I was like, "What are you
talking about?" And now I'm there. I'm
like, "Oh, I know exactly what you're
talking about." That's why I took the
Spotify deal. I was hoping I would be
like 10% less famous. That was my idea.
I was like, "Good. Less people watch
Spotify, less people listen. How many
people are going to go over there?" Like
Jamie kind of kind of freaked out in the
beginning because we lost half of our
audience like right away. He's like, "We
lost half the crowd." Like, so what? Who
cares? Good. I'll be less famous. I
don't want to be
>> I wanted to be famous so bad.
>> Well, it's because you weren't. Yeah.
Right. And so I already was. So I kind
of had a perspective like this isn't
what everybody thinks it is. It's just
weird, you know? Like the glory of it,
it's all fake. Like the the people that
love you, they don't even know you. Like
it's kind of crazy. Like the people that
love you should be the people that know
you. [laughter] You know, that's a good
thing. If the people that know you hate
you, but the rest of the world loves
you, then you're in an Ellen position,
right? You're in this weird position
where you're a fake person. Yeah. Where
everybody thinks you're one thing, but
you're actually another thing. So, the
people around you don't like you. And
then when the water breaks and everybody
starts talking, all the staff start
talking [ __ ] about you and you realize
like, oh, she was a monster, you know?
So, I think I had the benefit of having
some fame to realize like, oh, this is
not Also, I think about things a lot. I
don't just accept things for what they
are. Something's happening. I'm like,
"Okay, but what is this really? What is
this really?"
>> You did listen a little because I
remember the one time I called you when
you were on a motorcycle in Vietnam
>> and I was like, "Bro, you got to quit
that job." And you're like, "What?" And
I was like, "You got you're a funny
comic, man. You're a funny dude. You're
great on podcast. You don't need to do
this. Like, the world's changed. This is
holding you back.
>> Thank God. Thank God." You know, it's
like I always say like, "Thank God I had
the right people in my life at the right
times because I there's so much about
like like I'll tell you like, you know,
with the blood clot thing, they said,
you know, I I never every time I got
sober, it was always to like just prove
I could get sober for a month, you know,
right?
>> And just be like, I'll take a break, get
healthy, get good blood work, I'm back
at it."
>> This is the first time I've ever looked
at it like I'd never looked at how often
I was disrespectful to my health. like
how often I was like like get in the
airport and be like drinking at six in
the morning like [ __ ] it, you know? And
then I go and now that I'm flying I'm
forced to fly sober. I get in the
airport and I go I'll have egg whites.
>> Egg whites? You need the yolk.
>> No, you can't have too much iron when
you're on blood thinners. Yeah, I know.
This whole [ __ ] thing is nightmare.
But they said sober for 6 months and
then I and then I had a really
interesting conversation with with my
trainer and with Leanne over this
conversation. And they were like, "You
know what's so funny is they don't see
my lifestyle is partying and everything
is disrespectful to my health because I
work out, because I get blood work,
because I I'm sober for every now." They
were saying it's disrespectful to people
that don't that just stay online and
scroll and don't live their life. That's
what's disrespectful.
>> Well, how so? Like if if you if you're
just like you come home and you lock
into video games and you don't go out
and you don't really connect with people
and then you wake up and you scroll for
three hours and then you light a
cigarette and you go to work and you
come home and you play video games,
you're not living your life. And they're
like Leanne was saying the other day she
was like, you know,
don't don't like like get excited to
start drinking again, but make sure that
that you can measure that. You know,
>> get excited to start drinking again is a
wild thing to say. Oh, I'm I mean I'm
looking.
>> But how is it disrespectful to people
that are watching you?
>> No, no, no, no. I meant I meant, you
know, people that aren't living like
people that are leaving comments and
like [ __ ] on girls skateboarding
going, "You should wear a bra whore."
Like guys that aren't living their life
and not spending their time out with
family and and living their life.
>> So, what's disrespectful to them?
>> What? I'm lost.
>> You said it's disrespectful to
>> No, no. They're they're disrespecting
their own life by not living.
>> Okay.
>> By not getting in the gym, not going
out, not going and having dinner with
your wife. How is your life you
disrespecting your health doing anything
to them?
>> No. No. I think I was just two
parallels. Like I I was looking at
health thinking in hindsight like how
many times I just, you know, burned the
candle at both ends. Didn't think like
how off how fragile life actually is.
>> Oh [snorts] yeah. Well, you're very
durable. Unfortunately, that's part of
the problem is you were able to do that
and show no bad health markers. Like you
were drinking all the time. You got your
blood work done. Your liver's fine.
You're like, "Look at this. That's
great. Like you were I remember you were
super nervous like when you first
started getting blood work, but then
you're like it turns out it's fine.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. You you have great genetics, you
know,
>> but you think I think now I go, man, I'm
like my my grandfather died at 53
>> and I I'm 53
>> and I go and then you start seeing
people die and you're like [ __ ] man.
>> Yeah.
>> Like this blood clot scared the [ __ ] out
of me because people die from this. They
die from it. It's not It's no joke. And
then you're like,
>> "Well, [ __ ] that was just me flying."
Did they make you do a D- dimer test?
>> No.
>> So D-dimer test is when they test your
body for clots for microclots. So
apparently a lot of people that got a
ton of boosters Yeah.
>> got they they have microclots. And this
is one of the things. There was a
Canadian doctor that one of was was one
of the first guys to get cancelled for
saying that the vaccine was causing
clots because he was one of the first
guys that was doing a d-dimer test on
all of his patients. And he found out
that his vaccinated patients, the vast
majority of them were having these
microclots all throughout their system.
And it was being caused in his opinion
by the vaccine. And boy, eventually his
business wound up getting burnt to the
ground. He got he lost his medical
license. He lost his practice. It was a
crazy story and he was right. He was
right. And now it's pretty mainstream
like that discussion of it. And you know
even doctors who used to prescribe
boosters don't prescribe them anymore
which is kind of crazy. Oh yeah. Like at
what point in time like the people that
are that used to say you need to get
your booster. Well how come you're not
getting boosters anymore? Co's still
around. Those people aren't getting
boosters. No one's getting boosters
anymore. None of those people are.
>> Are they saying that we have a higher
antibbody rate now? Is like why is CO
not as dangerous today as it was then?
>> Well, the thing that happens with
viruses is they become less potent but
more transmissible. And that becoming
more transmissible allows the virus to
spread. And being less potent means it
doesn't kill the host. So it's actually
better for the virus to be more
transmissible but less potent. And that
generally happens in time when people
develop antibodies and people develop,
you know, like a resistance to it. So
what happens is the virus just becomes
easier to transmit but less potent.
>> Oh wow.
>> Yeah. That's why the variants over time
got less and less. Like the delta
variant was actually pretty strong but
after that they started dropping off and
then omnicron which is pretty nothing
and then they stopped naming them
because it really wasn't just a couple
variants. There's there's hundreds of
them. They don't even know how many. And
a lot of it is because they vaccinated
during a pandemic. And one of the things
that viologists throughout history were
always saying is you never vaccinate
during a pandemic because when you
vaccinate during a pandemic, you
actually encourage variance because the
vaccine realizes especially when you
have a leaky vaccine like COVID. So what
a leaky vaccine is a vaccine that
doesn't stop transmission and doesn't
stop infection. What it does is it it
gives you some protection through
antibodies, but that allows you to get
the the cold and the then the cold
realizes, oh, this guy's got these
antibodies. We'll just work around that.
And then people who had antibodies to
the original wild virus once they got
vaccinated they they this this variant
would see that they were or wouldn't see
but it would have a different pathway
because the the the
original immunity was to the wild virus.
The the original antibodies was to the
first virus that doesn't even exist
anymore. So your body didn't recognize
these new variants. So people get COVID
even more easily. I know I butchered
that if you're a viologist, but there's
a guy named Gear Vanderbos
um and he is a a vaccine specialist.
He's a viologist and one of his and his
he specializes in vaccines and he was
one of the early people saying this is
madness. This goes against conventional
thinking. You do not vaccinate during a
pandemic.
>> Jesus. I I'll tell you what, I've I had
CO a bunch. Nothing was like the swine
flu.
>> Yeah, you told me that. Remember in
2009, right? Dude, you got it bad.
>> I had I thought I was going to die. I
mean, I've never been that sick [snorts]
in my life. Shallow breathing. Uh, I I
mean it was I I and I was in I had to
fly to Mexico cuz I was doing a gig and
I and I was like I got on the plane, I
always drank on planes, had two drinks
and I was like I was like I'm a death
store and I [ __ ] to this day I've
never been that sick in my life and I
don't know how it didn't kill me.
>> You never drink when you're sick.
>> Oh no [ __ ]
>> It is the worst. It's so bad for your
immune system to drink when you're sick
cuz you just give your your immune
system this new thing to fight while
it's already involved in a fight.
>> Yeah. got I got on the plane with
Leanne. We were flying to Mexico and I
was like, I'm not that bad. I remember
being cold. I remember it hit me like a
ton of bricks that night. I was like,
I'm getting [ __ ] sick immediately.
Like it it was like bam. And
>> back then [clears throat] you weren't
even taking vitamins.
>> No, I wasn't doing anything.
>> Yeah, that's the problem. And this is
the other thing that the big problem
that I had during the COVID thing is
like I knew people were getting over
COVID. It wasn't killing everybody and
they were making it out like everybody
was going to get it was going to die.
everybody unvaccinated was going to die.
But I knew people that got it and
weren't the healthiest people and they
were fine. So I'm like, well, what the
hell's going on? Like, what is it? And
how come nobody's talking about
vitamins? Nobody's talking about the
impact that vitamins have on your immune
system, which is well documented. And
then if you brought it up, you're a
conspiracy theorist. You're a crazy
person.
>> But everyone listen because you brought
up I'll never forget the day you brought
up vitamin D.
>> Yeah. And I went to write aid that day
to get vitamin D and it was gone. I mean
the [ __ ] It was like it had been
looted.
>> There was no vitamin D to be found and
it was like I think it was like D3 or
something.
>> D3 and K2. The two of them with
magnesium is the the move. D3, K2, and
magnesium
>> all together. Do you know what's so
funny? I have rosacea on my cheeks. Um I
guess got it you get it when you're
older sometimes. And the cure is
ivormectin.
>> That's hilarious.
>> They were like, "You should get on
ivormectton." I was like I said, "You
mean horse tranquilizer?"
>> Horse paste.
>> Horse paste.
>> Yeah. Horse dewormer. Yeah. Like what
CNN called it.
>> But it's so great. It was the first
thing. They're like, "Have you have you
ever heard of ivormectton?" I was like,
"I'm friends with Joe Rogan. Are you
kidding me? [laughter]
>> Don't put me on CNN. They'll make me
purple."
>> Yeah. Well, the crazy thing about that
CNN thing is I mentioned a bunch of
other things that I took. All of them
were very effective. It wasn't one thing
that I mentioned. I mentioned IV
vitamins. I me and I I took IV NAD IV
vitamins and then the big one was
monoconal antibodies and monoconal
antibodies. They made it really hard for
people to get after that because people
were just saying, "Oh, I just need to
get monoconal antibodies and I'm
better." Bro, I shipped monocon. There
was we were using a tele medicine um
nurse and there was a part of a um like
a na nationwide service that you could
send people a nurse and they would go
deliver monoconal antibodies and IV
vitamins and the monocon the IV vitamins
thing always existed but the monoconal
antibodies they added to it once COVID
came and I can't tell you how many
people that I sent nurses to people that
I didn't even know people that were
friends of friends, my mom's friend, my
and I'd say, "Give me the address, tell
me who they are, and I'll send it to
them." And I paid for all of it. And I
did it to like at least 100 people. No
[ __ ] At least 100 people. Yeah.
Actors who were like like super liberal.
I didn't out any of them. They would
send me a DM. Hey man, I got COVID. What
should I do? And I said, "Where are you?
Tell me where you where you live. I'm
going to have someone sent to you." And
I I just send someone to them. And then
they'd come back and thank me. Very few
of them ever thanked me publicly, but a
lot of them got the service. And a lot
of people that weren't famous people,
just like my friend's mom or my mom or
my uncle or my cousin, someone got co
they're doing really bad. I'm like,
"Tell me where they are." And and I did
it I'm I'm not lying. I did it to like a
hundred people. I spent a lot of money
doing that.
>> How much does How much would something
like that cost?
>> Thousands of dollars.
>> For real.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did it for
people I didn't know. I did it for
people I had never met. I did it for
people that were famous that I never
met. I just I just said it was easier to
me for just to send them to them.
>> Leanne was the first person to get CO in
our house
and uh I had a joke I used to have a
joke about it. She had CO and she gave
me a hand job and I didn't get it. I was
like that's how intimate our hand jobs
are.
>> That's hilarious.
>> And uh she got it and I remember doing I
remember I called you and you were like
get her the NAD that you gave me the
whole [ __ ] list and we got it. She
got over it right away. We ended up
right away and we're like, "Cool, we can
go skiing."
>> No, no, no, no.
>> And then we all got it. We all got it.
>> You're not ready yet. You
>> Georgia gave it to me and she goes, she
I remember we were at the
>> George gave it to me and I remember we
were sitting at the dinner table that
night at our ski place and she was like
started crying. I go, "Baby, don't cry.
It's fine. Listen, it's totally fine."
She was like, "You're high risk."
[laughter]
>> You got to think of it as like it's
over. the bad part's over, but now your
body's in recovery. So, you can't go
skiing or do anything crazy.
>> I went skiing. I remember skiing that
first day with COVID thinking, you know,
it's just me. The mountain was empty. I
was like, it's just me. I don't really
have it. I'm fine. I tested negative. I
remember I tested negative. I was like,
I'm just hung over from last night. And
when I got down, I tested again. And I
tested positive. And I already had my
tour bus come and grab Georgia and
Leanne and drive them back to LA. So,
it's me and Isa. And Isa was like,
>> I only got it because I stayed up late
one night drinking and playing pool till
like 5:00 in the morning with my friend
John Showman.
>> I remember you tell I remember you
telling me that. You're like, it's more
you said you were more run down. That's
why you got it.
>> I was exhausted cuz uh my friend John he
John Showman, shout out to John. He's uh
he makes pool cues like awesome pool
cues and he lives in Florida and I'd you
know talked to him back and forth online
but I never hung out with him. And then
I made a appointment to meet him at a
pool hall. And we met at this pool hall
and we played pool till like five
o'clock in the morning laughing, having
a good time. And then um I got back to
the hotel. I was like really tired. I
was like, "Boy, I [ __ ] up. I went so
hard." Like we were out and I had a
bunch of margaritas and it was late, you
know, it was late [clears throat] at
night and then in the morning I just
felt like [ __ ] I took a hot bath. I
felt like [ __ ] I had a gig that night.
I did a a gig that night. I did an arena
with uh Tony Henchcliffe and Laura
Bites. We did an arena in Florida and
then I flew back home and on the way
home I was cold. I was like God why am I
so cold? Is this airplane cold and then
I when I got home I told my wife I'm
like I'm not feeling good. I go I might
have CO. Maybe you should sleep in
another room cuz she had gotten CO and
gotten over it. Which by the way when
she had it I [ __ ] her. I didn't I
didn't even think about I was like I'm
trying to get it. I never got it. My
whole family got it. But like I'm always
been the one who's like always v always
cold plunging, always sauna, always
vitamins, always working out. She works
out too, but it's like
>> she got it, you know, and my kids got
it. And I was home, I hugged them like,
"Daddy, you're going to get him." I'm
like, "I'm not getting shit." I never
got it. I had two days when I worked out
where I didn't feel that good. So when I
worked out, I just took it light. I just
just went through the routine like nice
and easy, not pushing myself. And then
the next day, still don't feel that
good. Nice and easy. don't put. And then
the third day I'm like, I feel pretty
[ __ ] good. And I went pretty hard.
I'm like, feel great. And it was done. I
never got CO. And then that one time I
got it. And then I didn't get it that
bad. The one day I felt like [ __ ] I got
all the the meds and then, you know, a
couple days later I made that video and
I put that video up. But that was
honest. I was like, I got CO. I got all
this medicine. I feel better now. They
didn't like the idea that this healthy
person was saying you you could get over
this. and also a healthy person that's
in their 50s was saying you can get over
this and you don't need this radical
experimental medicine that they're
trying to push on people. And so that
that's just another example of the
mainstream media that's not there for
the news because if they really were
there to inform people, they would say,
"Well, what did he do? What what what's
different about him?" Because they're
[ __ ] compromised. They're all
compromised by the people that pay their
advertising budget. the the amount of
money that pharmaceutical drug companies
spend on mainstream media is [ __ ]
preposterous. And they don't do it
because they're trying to convince
people to sell drugs. They do it
specifically because they don't want
those media organizations to criticize
any vaccines or any pharmaceutical
drugs. You never hear them talking about
there's no mainstream big media stories
about side effects of some sort of new
medication. And if there is, it's
because that company's probably about to
go under and a new company is asking
them to talk about it.
>> It makes me I I mean I' I've always said
and people think I'm a [ __ ] idiot,
but I don't trust sleep apnea machines.
>> Well, sleep apnea machines work.
>> I know, but I think they overdiagnose
sleep apnea machines because there's a
kickback. There's got to be a kickback.
>> Well, there probably is. There's a You
know, look, sleep apnea is a real thing
and it's really [ __ ] dangerous.
>> But is it is it as me I mean,
>> people die. Everyone's got it.
>> Well, not everyone has it. A lot of
people snore, but there's ways around.
There's mouth pieces you can use to keep
your tongue from closing your windpipe.
You know what I do? I put a mouth piece
I put a mouthpiece in and then I use
mouth tape. I've been using mouth tape.
You know, like you know hostage tape.
Yeah. I use that stuff. I put it over my
mouth and I sleep and I breathe through
my nose
>> and I feel so much better when I wake
up. I mean significantly better with
less sleep. Like if I have five hours
sleep with hostage shape, I feel better
than if I have eight hours sleep without
it.
>> Really?
>> 100%.
>> See, I
>> you feel different. I don't know why.
I'm sure. Okay, let's find out. What is
the science behind breathing through
your nose while you sleep? Why why is it
better? Like what is the science behind
it? I don't know what the science is,
but I know that a bunch of health
experts, they they recommended it to me.
I was like, tape my mouth shut. That
sounds so stupid.
>> Yeah,
>> I did it. And then the first night I did
it, I woke up and I'm like, "Whoa, I
feel great." Like I feel significantly
better. And now I do it every night. So
I put a mouthpiece in and then I put the
hostage tape over my mouth.
>> So the mouthpiece just holds your tongue
in place.
>> Exactly. Cuz I have a big tongue. I have
a big tongue and I have a big neck. The
problem is when you have big neck
muscles, all like football players, a
lot of them, most of them have sleep
apnnea because all those those
[clears throat] muscles that constrict
the wall the walls of your your throat.
So like there's all this tissue that
didn't exist before and then you have
this fat tongue. So I can't sleep on my
back. If I sleep on my back, it's like
>> that's me.
>> Yeah. Okay. Breathing through the nose
during sleep offers key health
advantages over mouth breathing. It
filters and conditions air for better
lung efficiency and promotes deeper
rest. Nasal passages filter dust,
allergens, and pollutants while warming
and humidifying air protecting the
airway waves from irritation. Uh this
reduces dryness in the mouth and throat
common with mouth breathing.
>> I got that. I wake up my mouth's so dry
my my tongue's like a finger.
>> Reduce snoring and sleep apnnea risk.
Nose breathing keeps the tongue
positioned correctly against the pallet
and jaw forward. Maintaining an open
airway that minimize snoring and sleep
apnnea episodes. Mouth breathing allows
the tongue to fall back obstructing air
flow which definitely happens to me.
Improved oxid oxination Jesus ox o o o o
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oxygenation and relaxation. It boosts
nitric oxide production for better
oxygen uptake and blood flow, supporting
deeper sleep cycles and parasympathetic
nervous system activation for
relaxation. This leads to fewer
awakenings and higher sleep quality.
Look, for me, I know for a fact it it it
helps for a fact.
>> From my my personal feeling, when I wake
up in the morning and I tape my mouth
shut, I feel way better.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Like way better.
>> I snore like crazy, but I I don't I
don't notice it.
>> The only problem is you have a beard.
So, the tape like will slip off with a
beard, you know?
>> Maybe I'll just get denture cream and
put it on my lips.
>> You ever do that? [laughter] We used to
do that people when they were sleeping.
>> Squeeze your lips together without How
do you open them then? Oh, you can't.
>> Oh, Jesus.
>> When people would pass out in our
fraternity house, we put denture cream
on their lips. Oh, boy.
>> And then they wake up like
that's [ __ ] terrifying.
>> Terrible. That's terrible.
>> I'm I'm still kind of stuck. I'm I'm
still stuck on this concept that [sighs]
>> with corporate money, we lose not as
much freedom of speech of freedom of
opinion. Well, you lose objective
reality from people that are supposed to
be giving you information, right? So,
they're not giving you reality. What
they're giving you is a filtered
narrative that has been promoted by
major corporations that have a vested
interest in profiting off of this
narrative being pushed forward. Like if
you don't get the vaccine, you're going
to die, right? Yeah, that was a big one.
And that was why they attacked me. Why
they attacked me was because like I
showed that there's something different.
Like oh look at this healthy guy who's
in his 50s that's really obsessed with
health, works out every day and look how
quick he got over COVID. Well, this
isn't this thing that we're pretending
it is. We're pretending it's the plague.
It's not. It's like a bad flu.
>> And again, for me, it was like, and
look, I've done this for, like I said, I
did it for a lot of people, but just IV
vitamins. I've I've sent people to
people. I did it for Bill Burr. Bill
Burr was here and he was sick and he was
coughing. And this is like long after
the pandemic. It's like 2024. And he was
doing a show and I came to visit him.
He's like, "I can't get over this cold."
I go, "Listen to me." I go, "I'm gonna
give you this number. I'm gonna give you
these people. You're going to get a hold
of them and schedule an IV mega dose
vitamin drip. You want high doses of
vitamin B. You want high doses of D. You
want high doses of C and zinc. You want
all those things together and I
guarantee you you're going to be fine.
So he was sick for weeks. He couldn't
get over this [ __ ] cough. He calls me
like a day later. He goes, "Dude, I
can't [ __ ] believe how good I feel."
He goes, "Dr. Joe Rogan, I'm calling you
every time I have a problem with this
again." And look, I did the same thing
for Dana White. When Dana White had CO,
he threw some eucalyptus on the rocks in
his sauna and he couldn't smell it. And
he goes, "Oh my god, I got CO." He
[laughter] goes, "The first thing I did
is called Joe Rogan." He called me up
and I said, "I'll set you up. We're
going to get you monoconal antibodies.
We're going to get you this. We're going
to get you that." Boom. One day later,
he's better. That's the reality. It's
like your body needs tools to let your
immune system function at its at its
optimum. And the one of the best tools
is nutrients.
>> Vitamin D is amazing for your immune
system. And it's not just a vitamin.
It's a hormone. And it's a hormone that
we don't get because we're not in the
sun enough. That's what the best way to
get vitamin D is sunlight. The second
best way is supplementation. And it's
really easy. You just take vitamin D
supplements. Take it with K2, which
makes it absorb better. And I take it
also again with magnesium. And do that.
And I also took zinc with um uh what is
that stuff called? Uh it's an ionor um
corsetin. So I take zinc with corsetin.
Corsetin aids in the the zinc absorption
in your body. I I take all these
different things. But I also I'm like
I'm on the ball. I know what I'm doing.
But [clears throat] they didn't say
that. They said he's taking horse
dewormer because they were trying to
shame me and they were trying to make it
look like I was a fool. and they were
trying to turn all these people that
were terrified about dying from this
plague against me.
>> Is that what's happening? I mean, I'm a
little obsessed lately, you know, at
like the the money behind podcasting and
podcasting kind of changing, you know,
like podcasting has gotten a little more
corporate where the where I I feel I
don't know if you see it
>> in what way?
>> Well, it's like uh I mean, I looked at
the Golden Globes and who was nominated
and those were all I mean, I think
they're all, you know, corporate
podcasts.
>> Yeah. Let me let me help with that. Um,
so here's the thing. Like a lot of
people say, "Why wasn't Joe Rogan
nominated for the Golden Globes?" And
like, "Why did you know Amy Polar went?"
I didn't submit.
[laughter]
So, they asked me to submit to be
nominated for the Golden Globes, and you
had to pay $500. And the $500 is like
for paperwork or whatever. I said, "No."
Like, I don't care. I already won. Like,
you can't tell me I didn't win. I've
been number one for six years in a row.
All of a sudden, you're going to have a
contest in front of all these people
wearing tuxedos and you're going to say,
"Now I'm not number one." Like, [ __ ]
off.
>> You can't like I don't care that I'm
number one, but I am in fact number one.
So, if all of a sudden you have a
contest to decide who's really number
one amongst us.
>> Like, that's amongst you. You're allowed
to have your opinion. You like Amy Polar
better than me, that's great.
>> Oh, that's so [ __ ] funny. Joe, do you
know how many people have been like ride
or die for you? Like the fact that Joe
Rogan didn't win. The fact that And I've
heard that so much that It's so funny
you just didn't submit.
>> Yeah, they asked me to.
>> Yeah, I was like one of like six
candidates. It's They took the top
people. They basically just took the top
people of the charts, but which, you
know, it's fine.
>> First of all, Amy Puller's podcast is
pretty good.
>> I haven't seen it.
>> It's pretty good.
>> I'm sure it's good. It won. I'm sure
someone must love it. It sucked. They
would give it to someone else, right?
>> Dax is really good. Like there's there's
some great podcast who was even
nominated. I don't even know who was in.
I just know that Amy Puller won and a
lot of people are upset. She's had a
podcast for six months and she won.
Great. You gave it to a famous person
which you know in that world that's what
they do. They give it to per a person
that like is going to look you give it
to Amy Polar amongst their circles. It's
not going to have any criticism. Look,
there's a lot of really good [ __ ]
podcasts. There's some great
>> I don't know if amongst her group, if I
listen to all of them, I would decide
that hers is number one. But I just know
that I didn't submit. I don't want to be
a part of that. I don't care. You're
just a group of people that just decide
all of a sudden that you're going to
give an award out. You got a you get a
trophy. [ __ ] off, dude.
I this Okay. Like, so when we did the
show and everyone's like, "Are you
looking for a season two?" And I
obviously that would be great, but you
know what I said to Leanne the day after
it came out? I said, "I think I already
won. I think I like I got everything I
wanted. I did something I'm proud of and
and people responding to it. People like
the texts I get are people that will
never pro promote it on their social."
>> Ron White loves it.
>> Ron loved it.
>> When Ron came in last night
>> and the first thing he said to me was,
"I watched your show. I watched every
[ __ ] episode."
>> Yeah. He binged it. He binged it with
his girlfriend. I was like, "Joe, you
know how I feel about Ron. I'll get
emotional." He's like, "And Ron's not a
[ __ ] artist. If Ron loved it, he
loved it." And he came in and he was
ranting and raving about it. That's all
you need. Just do your best. All these
awards and all this [ __ ] Awards for art
are crazy.
>> It's insane because it's not It
shouldn't be a competition.
>> Well, it's also so subjective. There is
music that like my daughter loves. It is
her favorite music, but she's a
15year-old girl. [laughter]
I can't say it sucks cuz it doesn't
suck. It's just not for me.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I mean? It's like that's
why awards for art are crazy. Like this
is the best. Like to who? To a group of
[ __ ] people that we deem the
gatekeepers of all that's appropriate.
Like
>> So when did you come because you know
I'm I'm always fascinated by you. When
did you care about ratings when you were
on news radio?
>> Oh no. Well, the news radio thing was
hilarious because that's one that I can
say for people that haven't watched it,
I I would say binge that show. It was
such an amazing piece of of art. We
would say, but o always and respectfully
always in the losing category. Like
never always
>> always in the losing category.
>> My friend Lou, he was one of the writers
on on news radio and he would show up
for the table read with a t-shirt that
had the number of our rating on it. And
one day he showed up and the number was
88. And I was like 88. He's like
[laughter] I'm like [ __ ]
I was like God because we got moved nine
times over the course of 5 years.
>> Like I remember like one of the things
that just like social media poisons
people back then it was Variety and the
Hollywood Reporter. So all of the cast
would be sitting around reading variety
about how good Sex in the City was doing
and the single guy and you know because
they would they would sandwich them in
between Friends and Seinfeld and you
know Paul Sims the producer of news
radio would call it a [ __ ] sandwich
because you would have these two really
good shows in between these shows that
were not that good.
>> They would call it Caroline and the
Shitty and it like everybody was upset
and so they would read these these
things in Variety. They'd look at the
ratings and they'd get all upset and
start getting pissed off and that show
sucks. Why is that show doing so well?
Why aren't we on Thursday night? And I I
remember saying, "Go, last time I
checked, I'm on TV." I go, "Do you know
we're on a TV show? Do you know how few
people get to be on a sitcom?" I go,
"Yeah, we're not number one." Well,
good. Then no one knows who we are and
we get to be on TV and we get to have
fun and some people enjoy it. We're
making so much money. Like, how can you
be upset? We could not be on TV. Like,
yeah, we're not number one. Yeah, we
have a really good show that's not being
recognized. It eventually was recognized
when it went to syndication. So, news
radio really only got popular in
syndication.
>> Oh, when it was on A&E, buddy, I don't
think I've ever enjoyed a TV show out of
every TV show I've ever watched. And I I
was late to Friends. Look, it was it was
no Game of Thrones, but or or even Queen
of Dragons or whatever the [ __ ] the
other one, House of Dragons. Yeah,
that's a pretty good show, too. But when
I discovered news radio, I was like, you
guys had every character. Like it was
not just one character. It was five
different
>> Are we back?
>> Yeah, we're back.
>> We've we've been having this problem
where we crash like a couple hours into
a podcast. But it was such you it was it
was five personalities, six
personalities all working in in in union
different at different speeds every such
a [ __ ] great show.
>> Well, Paul Sims came from the Larry
Sanders show, so he was really good, you
know, and it was just a brilliant guy
and the writers were amazing and the
cast was amazing, but it was the perfect
scenario. So, we went through it without
everyone getting famous. We put together
a great show and then we [ __ ] sailed
off into the sunset. It was perfect for
me because I never wanted to do it again
once it was over. For real?
>> Yeah. I didn't I mean I took a few
development deals afterwards just cuz I
wanted the money and I thought maybe
I'll make my own show and it'll be good.
But gh working with these writers and
like some of these some of these writing
teams was really interesting. Writing
teams are generally one brilliant guy
and then the other guy who writes things
down and then they both get deals and
then I would wind up with the guy who
wrote things down. So I got one of these
writers who was a writing team on
Seinfeld and the team broke up and then
I got this guy and he wrote this [ __ ]
script. It was so bad. It was so bad. I
couldn't believe how bad it was. I was
like and then they were trying to
pretend they're excited about I go did
you read it? I this is [ __ ] terrible.
Because the problem was I'd come from
News Radio which was a really good show
and [clears throat] most of these shows
are terrible and most of the guys that I
knew that were doing terrible sitcoms
were living in hell
>> because they were doing these like corny
ass and all they wanted to do is like
figure out a way to make themselves feel
better. So they spend money or they
party and that's what they were doing.
They were all just partying and spending
money and not enjoying their work. Their
work was terrible. It was hell. So, I
kind of realized early on that this trap
of like chasing the number one ratings
and all that [ __ ] It was just stupid.
It was just nonsense. And then, you
know, Fear Factor was number one for a
while, I think. I think it was. It was
hugely popular, whatever it was. And
that was weird, too. It's like, well,
that's that's also strange now talk
about it and everybody it was just like
this thing that was everywhere. It was
very strange.
>> This is how you can tell how big a show
is. Tell me if I'm wrong. I can remember
what night it aired on Monday nights.
>> Uh, Fear Factor.
>> Was it Monday nights?
>> I don't remember. I think it was Monday.
>> I don't remember.
>> I remember The Fresh Prince of Bair was
Monday nights. [laughter]
>> I remember Seinfeld was Thursdays,
right?
>> Yeah.
>> That's the thing about about uh TV now,
which is so bizarre, is like
>> when when I pitched this show, I Have
you seen Slow Horses?
>> Yes. I love it. So when I went to when I
went to Netflix, they were like, "We
want to do a show with you." I was like,
"Great."
>> And they're like, "What's the show?" I
says, "It's my family. It's I'm Bert
Chryser, George and Isla, Leanne. I'm a
comedian. I'm me. I'm Everything's the
same. Nothing changes. I don't have a
job. I'm this guy."
>> And they're like, "Okay." I go, "But it
it's uh meet slow horses." And they're
like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking
about?" I said, "All I can tell you is I
don't want to do episodic. I want slow
horses." I said when I watch slow and
this is why Ron's compliment was so kind
because I c I created the show so that
me Jared and Andy I should
>> explain Slow Horses.
>> Slow Horses is Gary Oldman. It is a spy
thriller. They're a group of of like
lowgrade spies that all kind of got put
into an office off to the side and but
they don't realize how important their
office still is. They're still very
ingrained in all the [ __ ] that the big
office is doing, but they're the B team.
And so the big office is constantly
[ __ ] with the little office. And
>> so how is your show like Slow Horses?
>> The day I watched Slow I'd watched Slow
Horses the week before I went in for
this meeting and I watched the the first
episode of Slow Horses. And at the very
end of that first episode, I hit pause.
I looked at Leanne. I said, "We're
watching every [ __ ] episode until
it's over right now. We're not moving.
We're going to watch all of them." And I
did that with that and Black Doss. And I
said to Netflix, I said, I want to make
this where that first episode, it's not
episodic. The Chrysers get a horse, the
Chrysers get a dog.
>> It all goes together.
>> I go, the first episode at that last
line I say, the very last line of that
first episode, I want you to look at the
person you're with and go, I'm watching
all [ __ ] six.
>> And uh and so it's an arc. It's a six
story arc. It's basically
>> a two hour and 30 minute movie that you
can stop at any point. And and the
compliment I've been getting is the one
Ron gave me is like, I binged it. I
watched all of it.
>> That's great. That's a smart move for a
comedy to do it like that. Like it's one
big story, you know.
>> That last that last
>> Black Doss is great, too.
>> Black Doss.
>> Great,
>> dude. Black Doss. Black Doss. When we
when we did the premiere and in LA,
Netflix came up to me and shout out to
Netflix and they were like, you know,
when you pitched this, we had no idea
what you were [ __ ] selling us. Like
when you said Black Doss and and Slow
Horses, like that those were your comps.
And then they were like, we watched that
first episode. And they're like, "You
[ __ ] did it." Like, you made a show
where at that very end of that first
episode, at that moment, and the very
beginning of the second episode, I have
a joke about you, but uh I thought I'd
throw one in. You th you gave me a
little love in your special. I give
[laughter] you a little love back. And
so, at the very end of that first
episode, I wanted it so that you go,
"Oh, this guy's [ __ ] I got to see how
he gets out of this."
>> And uh and that's the the compliment
I've been getting from people is that
they watched all of them. They binged
it. And that's like I was like cuz you
know you try to do something a little
different.
>> And uh and that's why when you said that
you didn't submit I [ __ ] connected so
hard cuz I was like I I didn't I don't
need it to be it's not going to be the
number one show on Netflix. It's never
going to be the the greatest show they
ever made. There's too many good shows.
But the fact that people have liked it I
go I think I won. I think I got the
thing I wanted was just like I got I got
a tech I got a text. I I'm going to
share this and I apologize Luke if this
sounds weird. Luke Colmes texted me last
night. Now he's not like a he's you know
he's [clears throat] not a social media
guy. He just texted me. He's like,
"Dude, I just watched your entire show."
Luke Colmes. And I'm like,
>> he's cool as [ __ ]
>> He's cool.
>> I've hung out with that dude a few times
>> as [ __ ] And he's understated. He's the
guy. He's fascinating to me because he's
a guy, we just did a podcast. He's the
guy that he goes into the room and he's
not going to talk to anyone cuz he
doesn't want to bother you. He's one of
the biggest stars in country music. He's
one of the most talented guys
>> and he's very humble and he's like I did
the CAMAs and I saw him and he just he
stays to himself. He doesn't and I was
like wow what a slick dude and he's like
no I'm not trying to be slick I just
don't want to bother anybody. Yeah.
>> And so when Luke Colmes texted me last
night I [ __ ] I texted Leanne. I was
like can you believe like that's not the
guy you think
>> right? It's a real compliment not from
like a cheesy ass kisser dude.
>> He really you know he's not lying. He
really liked it.
>> The first person to text was Chris
Dphano and that's a real one. He's like,
"Dude, you're you're a good actor. This
is a great series." That was the very
first text I got and I was like, "Comics
don't have to text. They don't we don't
like like I texted Shane when I saw
Tires cuz it's [ __ ] it was game
changer." I was like, "This is [ __ ]
incredible." Whatever. But when a comic
text, you're like, "That's okay." Like,
I didn't I didn't expect you to watch
it. But Luke Holmes [ __ ] floored me.
Luke Clolomes and Bradley Cooper was
another one.
>> That's awesome. Just do something that
you enjoy and do your best at it. This
idea of awards.
>> Yeah.
>> Like [ __ ] off.
>> [ __ ] off with your awards like that.
It's like there's so many moments in in
history have been defined by these like
goofy ass awards.
>> Yeah.
>> Like what? What is that?
>> The only thing that's good is it like if
something wins an Academy Award for best
movie, I go maybe I'll see it like
occasionally. But you know what's better
than that? one of my friends saying it's
great dude
>> you know and or someone posting on
social media like oh this [ __ ] someone
that I respect on social media posting
it and saying hey you need to watch this
this is amazing
>> do you ever see the movie American movie
>> what is that
>> it's about the two guys in Wisconsin
trying to make a horror film called
coven
I think I did this a long time ago
>> long time ago documentary and there one
guy's done way too much acid
>> and it's just it's like one of those
movies where someone says to you you
have to see this
>> and it's never going to win an award.
Probably made no money, but it is the
most fascinating. Okay, Jamie, can you
pull the trailer up for that? If you if
you see this, you'll go, I've saw it.
>> Okay.
>> It's the American movie Mike. Oh, what
was the other guys? Oh, this is so good.
Joe card,
>> imagine a world where passion and
perseverance outweigh polish and dreams
are both the driving force and the
destination. What if I told you this
world exists? Not in some far-flung
fantasy, but here in the heartland of
America.
>> This world is seen through the lens of
an unsung documentary where we meet Mark
Bochart
filmmaker from Wisconsin.
>> This is No, I didn't see this.
>> Joe, this movie,
>> maybe [snorts] I did. I don't know.
>> Is so good. But it's one of those things
that it's like when you find something
that you just fall in love with like
Yeah. like uh that that you can't
explain to someone like Vernon, Florida.
Have you ever seen Vernon Florida?
>> No.
>> It's a documentary by Verer Herzog about
it was trying to him and another guy
another guy did it. He was trying to do
a documentary called Nub City, right? It
was about this place in Florida where a
lot of people had lost limbs and were
collecting insurance money.
>> And he went in to do a documentary about
that and he got his life threatened but
he had all this footage. So I think
Verer Herzog came in and dumped a little
money in it and he just made the
bizarest documentary about a guy talking
about turkey hunting and another guy
talking about like it's like four
different personalities. Joe, it's on
YouTube. You can find it. Herszog does
some amazing [ __ ]
>> Amazing [ __ ] This thing Joe is like
something you start watching and you go
like I can't turn it off.
>> I mean he did Grizzly Man. He did uh
[sighs] [ __ ] what is that other one?
Um the one about the cave paintings in
France he did say
>> it was made by Errol Morris.
>> Errol Morris wasn't Warner Herszog.
>> No no he was
>> trying to highlight on there. It says
it's an Errol Morris film.
>> Oh so it's not Warner.
>> No Vernog backed it. He was the one that
paid for it. I see. I see.
>> He produced it.
>> He was also Werner Herszog was a part of
that movie Happy People. You ever see
that?
>> No. Was that
>> Oh my god. It's about these people that
live in Siberia. these these guys that
live in a small village in Siberia and
they're just fishermen and trappers and
hunters and they they basically just
live off the land and and they're so
happy. There's like no mental illness.
Everybody works really hard. It's
freezing cold at night. They're always
drinking and everyone's happy like and
it's called Happy People Life in the
Tiger. It's a great documentary because
it just shows you that like without
struggle you will create struggle and
when you have struggle all the time like
physical struggle people seem to be
satisfied and happy especially when
they're living off the land living like
a subsistence lifestyle. They're out in
the forest. They're catching fish and
it's it's a great documentary. It's
really interesting.
>> Did you feel it? Cuz I remember we went
to birthday party at your house and your
wife introduced my girls and Leanne to
chickens.
>> Mhm.
>> And Leanne and the girls immediately got
chickens.
>> Chickens are awesome.
>> The happiest my family was out of all
the times we've been happy was when they
were they had a garden and they were
raising chickens.
>> Yeah. It's good for you, man.
>> And then that that like extra like did
you guys clean out the chicken coop? You
need to clean like that little
>> Yeah. Work.
>> Yeah.
>> Work's good for you.
>> Yeah. Especially work that pays off.
Like you actually get eggs and you have
to eat those eggs.
>> Those eggs
>> and that that's like the most karmafree
food that you'll ever get cuz they're
your pets. Like you treat them well. You
feed them. You're like, "Hey girls, I
see them. I talk to them. They I lift
rocks for them." So they go under the
rocks and pick out bugs and worms and
[ __ ]
>> And they they come near you. They like
waddle over to you when they and you
like get you ready. You ready? You pick
up the rock and they immediately go in
there and try to get the worms and bugs
and [ __ ] And then you get these
delicious, healthy eggs. Best eggs I've
ever had in my entire life. Yellow.
>> Yellow. Double. I remember getting
>> orange. Do you remember double yolks?
>> You get double yolks. [ __ ] off.
>> But you're you're you know exactly how
they're raised. There's no cruelty
involved. You know how they're fed. They
lay an egg every day. That egg is never
going to become a chicken. You never
like that's what I tell to all my
friends that are like vegetarians that
are doing it for like they they're just
kind people. They don't want an animal
to die. I'm like you don't have to kill
an animal. Just eat eggs. Eggs have all
the nutrients you need. Eat the yolk,
eat the whole thing and you'll you'll be
super healthy. Like you can get all the
animal protein you need from eggs and
you don't ever have to worry about an
animal dying.
>> So wait, do you think then when you talk
about what was that happy city is it
called?
>> Happy people. Do you think your
connection then to crushing it in the
gym and killing it in the gym is
directly connected to that struggle
direct like the happiest I ever am is
the second my workout's done and I lay
back and I just sweat.
>> You did it. Oh
>> yeah, you did it. Your body needs a I
think in order for your body to survive
like when we were hunter gatherers, you
had to do a bunch of work. So, I think
there's human reward systems that are
built in us that if you don't meet those
requirements, your body gets anxious.
And the most anxietyridden,
[ __ ] up, mentally ill people I know
are these lazy slobs that are online all
day complaining about people, especially
comics. I know so many comics that they
spend
>> a giant chunk of their day [ __ ] on
other comics and they're all fat and
lazy. And what is that? Well, it's
because they're not healthy. They're not
mentally healthy, physically healthy.
>> And so they're completely obsessed with
other things, external things. You know,
when we did that sober October
challenge, Tommy said it best cuz he was
like, "Dude, when you work out, when
we're all competing against each other
to see who got the the highest fitness
scores, Tommy said it best, like when
you work out all day, it kills all that
internal chatter." Like, you don't worry
about things anymore. Oh, that what
about this, what about that? That what
about this, what about that [ __ ] Is
your mind thinking that there's threats
out there in the world? Because there
used to be cuz you're programmed to
think about like what's out there?
What's coming for me? Where the is there
a neighboring tribe that's coming over
the top of the hill? Where am I going to
get my food? There's all that stuff's
built in as a human reward system. If
you don't meet that human reward system,
you're just doomcrolling on Tik Tok and
Twitter all day and [ __ ] on people.
[ __ ] Whitney Cummings and Miss Rachel
was in the They're just mentally ill
slobs, all of them. And their opinion
should be dismissed. That's why the idea
of awards is so ridiculous. Who are
these people that are giving you awards?
They're all unhealthy people for the
most part. They're all weirdos that are
caught up in this [ __ ] bizarre,
strange industry that rewards group
think. Like, [ __ ] off. Yeah, that's
probably the the probably the happiest
my mind was when when we had the the
year we had the straps.
>> Remember we had that we were a member of
that Kansas City workout club or
something.
>> Yeah. We had to become Yeah. The My
Zone. The My Zone Fitness Straps. Yeah.
>> And I remember I mean I you know like
you have memories in your head where you
like you drive by a place and you go I
remember that. And it was one night I I
said I was I was going to run a marathon
and you're like I'll match it. I
remember we were all texting and I I
remember getting up at like it was like
put the girls to bed. It's 9:00 at night
and I go I'm going to run until midnight
and I had just this one [ __ ] mile
loop and I ran eight miles that night
and I just kept running and I cannot run
down [ __ ] KFax. I can't drive down
Kfax without thinking of me just going
one more lap. Just one more lap. Yeah,
>> those those were [ __ ]
>> wearing yourself out is good for your
brain, man.
>> It really good for your brain.
>> I don't think we should do that again
because the problem with that is that
lit up that weird part of my brain, that
obsessive part of my brain and my my
wife asked me never to do that again.
Like cuz I was like super serious. I got
like really into it
>> and it it just became an obsession.
>> Yeah. It's just it's a it's a dangerous
part of my own brain that I can't
entertain too much because I think
that's the part of my brain that was
formulated in my competition days where
it was like my thought was, you know,
like I would go to the gym because I had
keys to the school. So I'd go and train
at 2 o'clock in the morning because I
knew nobody else was. I knew everybody
else was asleep. So I'd go there, I'd
drive there by myself and unlock the
doors and start training at 2 o'clock in
the morning because I knew everybody was
asleep.
>> Yeah. That that made me feel better.
Like, [ __ ] while you're sleeping, I'm
in here. You know,
>> where did you put that competitiveness?
Because I I shelved my competitiveness.
I don't have it in comedy. I I have a
competitiveness with the industry that I
felt ignored me at times. Like, I have I
want to prove things like I did fully
loaded because I never got on oddball.
>> And so, I I created that festival. I
remember I was with uh we were at at the
Forest Hills Arena or whatever the
outdoor stadium. Someone's like, "Wow,
this is crazy. Can you believe you did
this?" And I went, "Yeah." And they're
like, "What made you want to do this?" I
go, "Because no one would ever invite
me." [laughter] And then they were like,
"Wow, that was more of an answer than we
expected." But like, and so there's a
competitiveness with me internally, but
I was very competitive as an athlete,
like unhealthy. And it was gross.
>> How was it gross? Like what sports?
>> By anything, anything I did. Anything.
>> That's Michael Jordan, right? When
you're talking about Michael Jordan, he
was the most health Michael Jordan and
Kelly Slater, the two ones, Tiger Woods,
that I hear about and I identify with
the way their brain works where I go,
oh, I have that grossness where I create
scenarios in my head to go, that's it.
I'm going to [ __ ] I' I'd build up a
rivalry with I have a guy that I think
about to this day who played baseball at
Tampa Catholic. His name was Israel. And
I had a competitive The guy doesn't even
know who the [ __ ] I am. He never knew
me. He was a pitcher for and I [ __ ]
and I and I apologize, Israel, if you're
hearing this right now. We were 16 and I
had a competitiveness in my head and my
goal was to hit him to hit a line drive
right back in and and he was a pitcher
and he threw inside and I crushed one
off his kneecap and they pulled him out
of the game and I stood on first base
and I was like that's how it goes.
[laughter]
>> Israel was 53 years old right now. That
was my [ __ ]
>> trap is to hit him with a line drive so
competitive and so I I and I and when I
got into standup I maybe because I just
I saw that so many people were so far
beyond me that I was like well I'm not
playing their game I guess so I'm not I
never had a competitiveness in standup.
>> Well you can't well you can listen you
could there's a good place for
competitiveness. I mean, I I am
competitive, no doubt. But I don't think
about it in terms of like art.
>> Yeah.
>> I think my competition with either
standup or with podcasting is to be the
best I can be to do the best job I can.
Like if I have a guy on and he's wants
to talk about some science stuff or
something like esoteric or weird, I have
to read his book or listen to the audio
book. I have to read articles. I have to
get in. I have to do my best. this guy's
gonna fly in here from Europe or
whatever it is, I have to be ready and I
have to be intrigued. And the only
reason why I have him on the podcast in
the first place is because I'm
interested in it. So my my thing is just
do the best that I can. And the the way
that I could do it the best I can is
only talk to people that I want to talk
to. Only reach out to people that I'm
actually interested in. Only accept
invitations of someone that ignites my
curiosity. And just only do it that way.
never say, "Oh, this person would be
great because they're famous." Like,
that's one of the things you see about
some of these podcasts that are doing
well. All of their guests are famous,
right? Which is like a built-in cheat
code. Like, let's see what this guy and
I have famous people on all the time. If
I think they're interesting, if I want
to talk to them, but I pass on a lot of
famous people because I'm not interested
in them or because they were like really
heavily pushing the vaccine during the
pandemic. I'm like, "Fuck you forever.
[ __ ] you. Yeah,
>> there's a few people that have tried to
get on. I'm like, no, I would have
before the pandemic, I would have been
happy to have you on, but now I'm like,
[ __ ] you forever. You who who knows how
many people you caused to have heart
attacks. Who knows how many people you
tricked into getting that and they had a
stroke. Who knows? Who knows? And they
didn't need it. Especially the people
that already got COVID. You didn't know
what you were talking about and you just
bootlicked. You bootlick for the [ __ ]
for the man. Like, [ __ ] you. Like,
that's it. But other than that,
everybody else, it's like, who is it?
What do they want to talk about? So, I
just do my best. You know, I'm
competitive when it comes to playing
pool. But really, the pool, you're
playing against yourself. You're playing
another person and the other person is
do. But when you're playing, nobody can
block you. Nobody gets in front of you.
You're just trying to do your best. So,
it's all against you. All the
competition is against you. Which is why
I like to work out by myself. I'm I'm
playing against me, you know? It's me.
It's like it's whatever my inside little
inner [ __ ] is. I'm trying to squash
that [ __ ] down, beat his ass
again, and then he's back again
tomorrow. Every time I lift the [ __ ]
lid on that coal punch, my inner [ __ ]
is like, "Don't do it. You don't have to
do this. You could not do it and we'll
be fine." Like the other day it was 22
degrees outside and I had to break the
ice off of the top of the thing cuz it
was like covered in ice. I break the ice
off because I got I couldn't barely lift
the lid off the [ __ ] thing. try to
knock off all the ice and then pick it
up and climb on in. I'm like, "Fuck
you." And this is like it's [ __ ] you to
the inner [ __ ]
>> dude. It's like when you said like I
remember doing an interview with a guy
when he was getting I got a Netflix
special coming out. I'm going to go out
on the road for the next couple weeks
and I was like couple weeks
>> couple weeks
>> couple weeks I'm gone. I don't I'm not
home for one month. I'm the one month
out I'm in my bus every night doing
stand up. 18 months out. I'm like
obsessive. Yeah.
>> Obsess. I've got I'm not shooting my
next one until 2027. And I'm obsessive
today. Last night I was like I tried all
my new [ __ ] I was like I got to find
out if real people laugh at this,
>> you know? Like I mean my fans my fans I
think [snorts] my fans are are willing
to give me an inch, you know?
>> Well, they also know you. They know your
story. They know all the references.
>> Yeah.
>> But but what's crazy to me is like we
were me and you. Not I I can't speak for
the younger comics, but we were in a ye
a time at standup when competitiveness
was the norm. It was because of TV
though, dude. That was what it was. It
was like everybody thought they were
competing for a very small amount of
slots. And then what happened was the
internet came along and we realized that
no, in fact, we're actually an asset to
each other cuz we do each other's
podcast, we hang out with each other,
which makes each other better. when
we're all on a show together and you're
killing and Tom's killing and Ari's
killing, the more people are killing,
the more we're going to do better
because we're going to get excited about
it. Yeah. And we'll be inspired. And so
we became valuable to each other instead
of competitive against each other. And
if there was any competition that you
were having among with your friends, it
was actually healthy competition because
it just made you try harder. Like if you
saw if Ari went up and did like when Ari
did his juice special, which [ __ ]
incredible, that special was so good. It
made so many people get inspired to work
on a theme and write and like really try
to develop something. Like look at what
he did. He just like put together this
[ __ ] incredible special. Like it was
really [ __ ] good. And that kind of
competition is healthy competition. It's
inspirational. Instead of like saying,
"I hope that guy gets hit by a bus. [ __ ]
him." All these slobs that are on
Twitter and that are talking [ __ ] about
comedians and are angry about comedians,
they have one thing in common. They're
almost all failures. They're either
failures or they're extremely mediocre.
>> Yeah.
>> They're in the middle of like mediocrity
that no one's no one's got them as their
favorite comedian. No one's got them as
their favorite podcaster. No one's got
them as anything. They just don't do
that well. So what do they do? They're
attacking people. So their
competitiveness is a very unhealthy
competitiveness. if their
competitiveness was healthy, they would
say, "Well, what is it about this person
where she's getting all these comedy
specials and she's in front of all these
roast? Why is Nikki Glazer doing so well
and I'm not? Instead of hating on Nikki
Glazer, you know, but that's not what
like a narcissist does. What a Well,
what about me? How come I'm not getting
that? She does talk about [ __ ] [ __ ]
that [ __ ] [ __ ] And then they get
all [ __ ] angry and they start talking
[ __ ] about her. Meanwhile, she still
kills it. She's still on the road. She's
still selling out. She's still getting
out there. Everybody screams and cheers.
Why? Because she put in the work. And if
you put in the work and if you looked at
yourself and you objectively analyzed
what you're doing and said, "Why is this
going well? Why is this not going well?"
and worked harder, you would be where
she is. But you're not. So what are you
doing? You're on Twitter every day for
12 hours like a [ __ ] mental patient
just [ __ ] on people and getting in
arguments and saying mean things like
you're going to just It's crabs in a
bucket. You're just trying to pull
people down that are doing better than
you. Where you going? get that down
here. That's all it is.
>> Yeah,
>> it's unhealthy. That's why you can't
read that stuff because you're you're
you absorb the atmosphere of the people
that you surround yourself with.
>> And like it or not, when you're
interacting with people on social media,
you are surrounding yourself with their
thoughts.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, and they're unhealthy people
that you would never hang out with in
real life. And if you did, if you said,
"Well, why do you think that way?" And
then they would say something like,
"That doesn't make any sense. This is
why that's not doesn't make any sense."
They'd be like,
and then they would run away and go talk
[ __ ] about you on social media because
they're cowards. Yeah.
>> So, you can't live in a world of cowards
and mental ill people. You can't. It's
not good for you.
>> It's uh when I started hanging out with
the the group I'm around now, right?
[snorts] I I want to say it was you you
were saying surround yourself with good
people. And I remember I remember
reading a quote that week and I I've
butchered it, but I said if enough you
hang out with enough great white sharks,
people think you're a great white shark.
Like I just like like all they see is
the fin,
>> right?
>> And it's like if I hang out with the
best [ __ ] comics in the world, if I
surround myself with the best comics in
the world, I'm going to have to get
better. Yes.
>> Like I'm going to get better. And I and
I remember I can tell you like the first
time I saw your Kim or your uh your
Caitlyn Jenner joke of the of the
gargoyles,
>> the demon.
>> Yeah. And you're on the stool and you
you got the stool and the gargoyle. I
remember watching that crying, laughing
going, I'm not using the stage at all.
Like I'm not using the stage like god
damn it. Or I remember Burr doing an act
out and I never expected Burr to do an
act out. He was talking to an immigrant
kid he hired that lived in the bushes or
that he he adopted. He goes so and so is
not going to live in the house. we're
going to keep in the bushes. He said,
"Come on, man. There's a reason you're
in bushes." But he was doing an act out.
And I remember going like, "God damn it,
man. I don't ever do act outs." Like, I
think I always surrounded myself around
better comics to like see what the see
what the meal was being made and go
like, "Well, [ __ ] I'm just making
French fries. You can turn that into a
baked potato." Well, we don't exist in a
vacuum. This is one of the things that I
always say about comics. You never find
the best comic in the country or one of
the best comics in the country by
themselves in Birmingham, Alabama. No,
>> it doesn't exist. They're always in
either New York, LA, Austin. There's a
few other places where you find out
about someone really good and they're
always around other people that are
really good because comedy is one of
those things where you you you really
only experience it live. Like when you
see someone and doing a special,
specials are great, but a special is
like 60% of the real show. If you're
there in the audience, you get 100% of
the real show. You get hypnotized by by
the show. you get caught up in it. If
the guys got it together, it's like
really well pieced and timed and edited.
It's so much fun.
>> But you you got to be there. And when
you're at a club like and you see Gillis
and Ron White and like we had the
mothership, you have all these great
comics like, man, the atmosphere is just
uplifting. Everybody's inspired and
exciting. And for people that are
listening like, "Yeah, that's great for
you guys. Be [ __ ] famous comedians."
You could do this with your friends.
Whatever you're doing, I don't care what
you're doing. Whatever you're doing, if
you guys are all pickle ball players,
just work hard to be the best [ __ ]
pickle ball player. Hang out with other
pickle ball players. Talk about pickle
ball. Get involved in it. Push each
other. Tell tell each other what you're
doing that's making you better. Tell
each other what are the different things
you're doing that's enhancing your
recovery or whatever the [ __ ] you're
into. Find other people that are also
into it. surround yourself with people
that have a similar thing and you all
lift each other up
>> and it's you need the other voices cuz I
think sometimes the best jokes you tell
are like like uh you don't realize
you're telling a joke. You don't realize
it's a bit and then someone goes,
>> "Yo, man."
>> Like I remember we were doing a new
material night one night and I got off
stage and you walked up to me, you go,
"Did you really not know that Helen
Keller and Anne Frank weren't the same
person?" [laughter]
>> And I was like, "Yeah, you should think
they're the same person."
>> No. Did you you know what I've been
reading? that Helen Keller was a fraud.
>> Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Let's start here.
Okay. So, okay. I heard Stevie Wonder
could see. [laughter]
>> Okay.
And there's footage of him [snorts]
doing seeing guy [ __ ]
>> Like what?
>> Pull it up.
>> There's all sorts of stuff and some very
interesting stories people have told,
too.
>> Shut the [ __ ] up. Like there's a video.
>> That's a great secret to keep that
secret for so long while you're still
alive. Helen Keller's dead and it just
leaked out in 2026.
>> Dude, Helen Keller look
>> her doctors were saying that she
responded to stimuli to sound to visual
and then her writing was apparently all
the same grammatical errors and spelling
errors that her handler had.
>> This goes back to cubes Joe. It's just
like he says to me,
>> you you lost it all [laughter]
and you built it back. And I just I just
Stevie wondered him. I'm like, yeah, I
can't see, man. Me and Eddie Bravo were
crying, laughing cuz he cuz I was on the
toilet when he called me and uh I'm I'm
taking a [ __ ] And he's like, "Uh, did
Brock Crasher lose everything?" I'm
like, "What?
>> That was the first thing you said to
me." He goes, "He was on Shannon." I go,
"He didn't lose everything." And I go,
"I bet Shannon Sharp just said that."
And I could see Bert totally just going
with it. And we were crying, laughing.
[laughter]
Eddie Eddie and I WERE CRYING LIKE, "WHY
WOULD YOU GO WITH THAT? WHY WOULDN'T YOU
JUST TELL HIM tell you Bert wouldn't he
wouldn't even I don't know SHANNON I
JUST PULL MYSELF BACK UP AND I JUST I I
hit rock bottom. [laughter]
HE NEVER HIT ROCK BOTTOM. HE WAS NEVER
EVEN IN THE MIDDLE. HE WAS ALWAYS DOING
GREAT.
>> That's what happened to Stevie Wonder.
They were just like, "Hey man, I heard
you're blind." He's like, "What?" And
someone's like, "Just go.
>> Come on. This can't be real."
>> I swear to God, there's video of
>> Ray Charles is blind. Don't kill my all
my
>> Ray Charles is really blind. But okay,
Stevie Wonder has got a lot of [ __ ]
too.
>> Stevie Wonder,
>> you know why?
>> Cuz he didn't care what it looked like.
>> I didn't give a [laughter] [ __ ] He just
cared what it felt like. Did you smell
good? Do you smell good? Can we [ __ ]
>> I brought a blind guy on [snorts] stage
one time in Harford, Connecticut. I was
like, he was with a [ __ ] smoking hot
chick.
>> He probably didn't even know.
>> And I know. I said I go, "Dude, it's
what a waste." And he was like, "What?"
I go, "You got a beautiful chick, but
you could just I mean, wouldn't a fat
one feel better? Like, cuz [laughter]
you're all touch, right?" And he goes,
"No, man. I can feel her face." And I
went, "What?" He goes, "She's gorgeous."
She was
>> Oh, you could feel her face.
>> This is when I was young and there were
no rules in comedy and no one had
phones.
>> So I said, "Hey man, come up on stage. I
want you to feel people in the audience
and rate them on a scale of 1 to 10."
>> Oh no.
>> And [ __ ] the confidence of these
chicks. [snorts] I'll do it. Gets up.
Boy,
>> feels her face. She's like, "Oh, four."
And the crowd was like, "This guy's
good. [laughter] He could have worked at
a fair Joe." I mean, he was so [ __ ]
good. He was so good. You have to have
footage of of Stevie Wonder shaking
dude's hands. Come on.
>> He There's one where I saw where he
comes up on stage and Stevie sticks his
hand out to the side and the guy's like,
"Hey, what's up, Stevie?" There's
>> Yeah, but I mean, he would hear people
and know that they were to the side of
him.
>> I don't know. I That's what I heard. But
then I think that's what happened with
Helen Keller is right the story.
>> Well, Helen Keller seems like it was
fraud. It seems like she probably was
like visually impaired. Okay. when
someone attempted to shake hands with
Stevie Wonder. I pray this.
>> Oh, that's a joke. Making fun of it.
Okay. So, not that. But I did find So,
there's a bunch of compilations of
people like this is from Dr. Champs.
These Stevie Wonderond wonder stories
keep getting wilder every time.
>> Shout out. You ever had Drink Champs on?
>> No. Let's let me Let me hear some of
this.
>> Stevie's not blind stories. Stevie
Wonder be facetiming
>> on everything I love. Stevie Wonder does
FaceTime me.
>> COME ON, MAN.
I CAN'T MAKE THIS [ __ ] UP.
>> Come on.
>> I was in there chilling with my I was
getting my hair done with my hair
stylist. You going to tell us a story
>> and my phone and my hair stylist like,
"Did I say Stevie Wonder?" I said,
"Yep." I went boop. And he was like,
"I've been looking for you." [laughter]
>> You know, Snoop Dog say Stevie Wonders
FaceTimes him.
>> Yeah. Stevie FaceTimes me too.
[laughter]
>> Oh my god. Oh my god. Think Stevie could
see
>> sometimes.
>> What? [laughter]
>> Shaq said he rode in the elevator with
Stevie and Stevie pressed the the
button. [laughter]
>> We lived in the same building on
Wilshire.
>> All right. I need to describe the story.
>> You can park in front. You can park in
front.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Or you can park at the bottom.
>> Uhhuh.
>> I'm already in the elevator.
>> So you say Stevie got off his car?
>> No, [laughter]
but he got on the elevator. Okay.
>> And I'm standing in the corner. I see
him. I don't want to say nothing. He
like, "What up, Diesel?" [laughter]
>> Guess button. Then he got the floor. And
I'm like,
>> Shaq said he rolled in the elevator with
him. He didn't say that he was in there.
He just seen Stevie like they lived in
the same building and they they both
walked in and Shaq cuz he didn't want to
say nothing and Stevie said when Shaq
walked out. All right. Later, Diesel.
>> No, first he came in.
>> Crazy. Yeah,
>> that's cra Well, what a what a great
move that would be if he really did it.
I think he's blind.
>> No, here's it's the picture.
>> But what up, Diesel? First of all, the
sound that he would make when he walks.
>> Like the Shaq is huge.
>> He's an enormous person. So, you'
probably realize there's an enormous man
next to you.
>> You'd have to feel it,
>> right?
They probably maybe he wears the same
deodorant or cologne because dudes who
who can't see have amazing sense of
smell.
Like they people smell differently.
Yeah. You know, like certain people
smell different, I guess. I don't notice
it because I could see them, but
>> does have his own deodorant.
>> Yeah, there you go.
>> No, he has his own deodorant. Shack's
head on it. I think
>> he probably smelled Shaq's deodorant.
>> I don't know. I'm just trying to be
charitable.
>> I This is how I think it happened,
right? Stevie Wonder goes on what, Ed
Sullivan show at five. And uh and he's
probably hard. He probably can't see. He
probably don't have 2020 vision. He's
probably legally blind, right? uh
legally blind.
>> Legally blind. Like he can see [ __ ] but
it's not great vision. And they're like,
you know, uh this is little Stevie. And
he's like, "What's wrong with his eyes?
We can't [ __ ] put his eyes out like
that. Give him sunglasses."
>> And they just And then the story got
bigger than it was. I will say this. I
will say this. Okay, I got video of
this.
>> This just proves that he might be blind.
>> Okay,
>> Liam was at a concert the other night.
This guy Cory Henry's Steviey's favorite
pianist. Leanne loves Cory Henry. She
goes to the concert. She's sitting next
to Stevie Wonder and Stevie Wonder
didn't stand. The whole place was
standing. And Le was like, "Why isn't he
standing?" I go, "Cuz you only stand to
see. If you're blind, you're going to
sit through the whole show. It's no
different to you,
>> right?"
>> So I was like, and then I have video of
Stevie Wonder sitting.
>> But it's also convenient cuz who the
[ __ ] wants to stand for a show?
>> I don't.
>> Helen Keller.
>> The Helen Keller one's different.
>> The Helen Keller ones. There's doctors
that have said like there's it was
medical records at the time where people
said she was responding to light.
>> This says that [snorts] there's uh
that's not true.
>> The Helen Keller thing
um medical board archives from 1902 to
1924 do not contain examination reports
showing Helen Keller had functional
vision and hearing throughout a disabled
life. And the conspiracy that Keller was
a cash cow for Sullivan is debunked by
the fact that Keller's full life
continued with another companion, Paulie
Thompson, who also interpreted for her.
That doesn't mean anything. That means
that other person could be in on it as
well.
>> Yeah,
>> that doesn't mean anything. Also, this
is a time in 1919. I mean, come on.
>> Howard was a lie in
>> 1902 to 1924. I mean, you could get away
with so much. So, she supposedly flew a
[ __ ] plane. This says THAT
>> I TOLD YOU she
>> No, hold on. Yeah, this says it was from
like a movie and there's no
>> Oh, the movie. She flew a plane in a
movie.
>> A silent film. She played herself.
[snorts]
>> She played herself flying a plane. They
just thought people were [ __ ] back
then. They're like, "Show her flying a
plane. She's the best.
>> She started a university.
>> Nothing can hold her back. Why is it
holding you back? She can't hear. She
can't see. And she could talk and write
books." Like, wait, what?
>> Okay, that [snorts] is this one article.
I knew she flew.
>> I I've read things that said that the
people that were examining her said that
she responded to sound and that she
responded to light. Just because this
one thing says it's not true doesn't
mean that it's not true.
>> Well, then here's the question.
>> It's also we don't know. This is a
hundred years ago.
>> Yeah.
>> We really don't know.
>> How blind and deaf do you need to be
before you say you're not blind and
deaf?
>> Right. Well, the thing is like can you
not hear anything? Can you not see
anything? That's blind and that's deaf.
Anything else is like I have poor
hearing and poor sight.
>> Yeah, but that doesn't sell a [ __ ]
book,
>> right? But that's the problem. Like
maybe she could see a little. Maybe she
just had bad vision and maybe she could
talk a little [laughter] cuz otherwise
how I mean
>> so less impressive.
>> Explain to me how you're going to write
books. Explain to me how you're going to
grasp concepts and language and
communication and and interaction.
Explain to me. I don't get it. I've
never met anybody since then that's been
able to do it. Do any blind deaf people
today write books and fly planes?
>> I don't know if she flew a plane.
>> She's just in the plane. That's what it
said.
>> Oh yeah,
>> she's in the front of the plane and they
usually flew in front of
>> I saw a blind guy on a plane once. I
didn't think anything of it. I didn't
think he flew. I
>> almost got in a fight with a blind guy
at the Austin airport
>> for what?
>> Right after I did the show last time I
was here. I was a little high. I went to
the airport a little drunk. He was
fighting with his wife and he grabbed
her by the back of the arm
>> to leave and I thought he was just
grabbing by the back of the arm like a
dick. And I was like, "Hey." Hey. And
then he turned around. He had sunglasses
on and a cane. And I realized he that's
the only way he could get to the gate.
>> Look at Burp being a [ __ ] white
knight.
>> I know.
>> Stepping in fighting blind guys.
>> I [ __ ] that guy up. [laughter] He
didn't is so easiest fight I've ever
been in.
>> Remember
>> the look on the black guy's face at TSA
when I when I couldn't see that he was
blind already and he grabbed his wife's
arm and I went, "Hey." And the black guy
went, "Oh shit." Like not knowing you're
you're talking [ __ ] to a blind guy.
>> You were drunk.
>> I was [snorts] I was wasted. So are
there any people are there any good
articles that say Helen Keller could
see?
>> I asked perplexity. It said she was
blind and deaf caused by u menitis when
she was 19 months old. [clears throat]
>> Again I wonder wonder if she could see a
little see a little and hear a little
makes a lot more sense that you could
write books.
>> So I just stumbled across something
that's I don't know how true it is. just
says that somewhere in the along the way
Stevie Wonder got some sort of
corrective something or other to help.
>> Well, so he could see a little bit
>> perception issues or
>> what that means you could see. Stop
lying to me. Damn it.
>> But he also another thing says he's got
detached retinas.
>> Wait, did you ever see that?
>> Oh, interesting. So he has damaged
vision then. That sounds like damaged
vision.
>> Shortly had shortly after birth due to
retinopathy of prematurity from being
born prematurely. He's addressed his
rumors persistently
uh about being able to see it's a
blessing allow him to see people's
spirits not their appearance.
>> So this is the Instagram thing that I
saw initially on Helen Keller. I'll send
this to you.
>> That's the
>> Yeah, you don't believe that, but you
believe that [ __ ] article that you
just pulled up.
>> No, I'm saying starting with social
media isn't the best place.
>> Listen, it's the best place for
information.
>> It's where I get all my information.
>> Everything's accurate.
>> You could start there.
>> It's all real.
is all real.
>> You ever told someone, "Yeah, I read a
book about it." It was just an Instagram
post and they're like, "A book?" I think
I saw the same post.
>> Yeah.
>> Helen Keller was a fraud. Doctors prove
she could see and hear how her teacher
made millions from the lie. It
[clears throat] said medical board
archive
medical board archives from 1902 to 1924
allegedly contain examination reports
suggesting Helen Keller retained partial
vision and hearing throughout her life.
According to those claims, multiple
physicians noted she reacted to sounds
when Anne Sullivan was not present,
tracked movement with her eyes, and
physically flinched at loud noises. One
sealed report is said to conclude that I
don't like that is said to conclude
>> that her responses pointed to
coordinated deception rather than true
disability.
>> Sullivan reportedly refused independent
testing. Aha. The theory argues that the
situation became highly profitable.
Sullivan allegedly discovered Keller at
age seven, promoted a miraculous
teaching breakthrough, and toured the
country, charging the modern equivalent
of thousands per appearance. Supporters
of the claims say Keller's autobiography
noticeably changed tone when Sullivan
became ill, suggesting Sullivan authored
both voices. Financial records are said
to show Sullivan controlled all income,
keeping Keller financially dependent for
life. Linguistic an analytics
[clears throat]
cited by conspiracy supporters claimed
Keller's writings mirrored Sullivan's
private letters exactly matching
vocabulary, sentence structure, and even
spelling mistakes. They argued that
Keller wrote without Sullivan present,
that when Keller wrote without Sullivan
present, the work appeared elementary,
concluding that her eloquent public
words came from Sullivan, not Keller.
According to the theory, disability
organizations later built massive
institutions around Keller's story when
evidence questioning her condition
surfaced. It was allegedly suppressed
due to to [clears throat] rather protect
a lucrative charity, an
inspiration-based industry that relied
on a powerful symbolic figure,
>> Lance Armstrong.
>> What do you mean?
>> This is like this is the this is the
whole like uh the you build the whole
thing and people start coming at you,
right? It's like this is the time when
the elephant man was big,
>> but Lance Armstrong won those races. And
the thing about the Lance Armstrong
thing is,
>> you know, you could say Lance Armstrong
cheated and he'll tell you he cheated.
But the reality is everyone cheated. If
you wanted to go back into the archives
when he won tour to France and figure
out like who didn't test positive, you
had to go to 18th place. Yeah. So they
took away all his jerseys by the way.
[ __ ] you to he says because he still has
all those jerseys on the wall. [ __ ]
you can't take them from me. You can say
I didn't win, but everybody knows I won.
And everybody knows he won when all
those other guys were doping, too.
>> But I was saying they were trying to
protect of a lucrative a lucrative
profit.
>> Uhhuh.
>> And that's what didn't happen with
Lance. Like he they they just threw him
under the bus. Well, he was also suing
people who were saying that he took
stuff. Yeah.
>> Because they were whistleblowers because
they went after them first and said,
"Listen, if you if you blow the whistle
on Lance, we'll get you off the hook."
And so then he would sue them.
>> Be a better story if Helen was more like
Lance and they're like, "We got a tennis
partner says you play tennis with a
Helen." [laughter]
>> She was like, she's like, "I'm going to
sue you." And they're like, they're
like, "You're talking pretty good." She
go,
>> but this is around the time when the
Elephant Man was big. So you'd grab on
to something, right? Uh-huh.
>> You grab onto something like a sideshow
>> and you'd parade it around the country.
>> Especially that woman who's her handler.
If that lady was responsible for all of
her finances and had access to all that
money
>> and Sullivan,
>> that makes sense.
>> That's how I mixed up Anne Frank and
Anne Sullivan. That's how it came about.
>> There's nowhere to There's no link here.
>> Shut up, Jamie.
>> I just want to say,
>> stop ruining everything. [laughter]
>> You're right. There's no link there.
>> There's not a single link to say And
[clears throat] people even ask like
where are the links and when you Google
some of the stuff.
>> I like that one though. I knew it.
>> I knew it. I'm with that guy.
>> Christian Harvey. I'm with that guy. I'm
with that guy.
>> I've been saying this for years.
>> It just doesn't make sense that she'd be
able to write so eloquently.
>> Did you ever see Kevin Hart and Dr. Dre
talking about Stevie Wonder?
>> No.
>> Pull this up. Kevin Hart, Dr. Dre.
[laughter] It's cuz Dr. Dre is not mean
like he's not he never tries to be
funny,
>> right?
>> And he is so [ __ ] funny on accident
on this clip.
>> Talking about Stevie Wonder.
>> Just Stevie Wonder, Dr. Dre, Kevin Hart.
album with Marsha Ambrosia, right? And
we did some music, a song using Stevie
Wonder's music and he had to clear it
and he called me up like, "Yo, Jay, for
some reason Stevie Wonder calls you like
super early in the morning, like 6:00,
7:00 in the morning or some shit." I'm
like, "Just [music] cuz you can't see
the time [laughter]
the [ __ ]
>> right?" So, true story. [music]
>> Look, I don't like the lyrics. I don't
like the lyrics, right?
>> Look at Kevin.
>> Okay, we went in and changed the lyrics.
[music] It's like, what if we uh
[laughter]
It's like just
[laughter]
Stevie, it's 3:00 [crying] a.m.
>> What the [clears throat] [ __ ] is the
difference? Like 5:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
to Stevie. [laughter]
>> That's true.
>> What's the difference?
>> That's true.
>> That's blind people have a really hard
time sleeping.
>> I imagine cuz it's dark all the time.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. Their circadian rhythm is all
[ __ ] up, right? They feel sunlight in
their face, though. If they go outside,
>> they have to. I do.
>> They have to. Yeah. It probably feels
really good. That sun in your face.
You're blind. Like, ah,
>> you just don't feel the light. Just feel
the warmth.
>> I bet you see it when you open your eyes
a little bit. But you see something.
>> Depends on your level of blindness,
right? Some people could just see light,
like a little bit of light.
>> I would love that they made like blind
glasses. Like, this is what this is how
blind you have to be to be considered
blind. And you could just put them on
and be like, "Okay, that's blind."
>> Oh, like legally blind glasses.
>> Yeah, like legally blind glasses that we
could all put on.
>> And then they're like, "That'd be cool
if they made like version like this is
how blind Helen Keller was." And you put
them on, you're like, "Oh, I can [ __ ]
see."
>> Yeah. We don't know.
>> I guess there's no way to find out.
>> I'd like to believe that it was a fraud.
I think that's fun. I like to believe
that people pull Well, it's like
Watergate. I I like finding out.
>> I gotta get rid of that book now.
>> Yeah,
>> that [ __ ] bums me out. That was
>> Listen, will you watch the episode that
I did with Bill Murray? He [ __ ] hated
that book. He said after five pages he
was like I knew it was [ __ ]
>> God.
>> Yeah. Bert, I love you to death.
>> Joe, I love you.
>> Tell everybody about your show. It's on
Netflix right now.
>> Free streaming on Netflix right now.
Check it out. If you like it, just enjoy
it. Tell a friend.
>> Boom. Boom.
>> 275 lbs in this.
>> Damn, you look like you lost a lot of
weight. How much you down to now?
>> 40 lb. 35 lbs. 45 lbs. I'm
>> You haven't drank in how long?
>> Just 17 days.
>> That's good. Yeah, I got another I have
a timer set. Five months and 18 days.
>> So, at 6 months, you're going to have a
drink.
>> Uh, yeah. Well, I got a second opinion.
You know that, Joe.
>> Okay. I'll see you in six months.
>> I'll see you in I'll see you.
>> I'll see you before. Are [laughter] you
coming tonight? You going to be around
tonight?
>> I I'm trying to go did spend time with
Tom's kids. I was dinner.
>> Okay. Beautiful.
>> What's good? Good luck getting Tommy on
the phone these days.
>> He's a busy boy.
>> Yeah, [snorts] busy boy.
>> Yeah, we're all busy. Tom,
>> that dude's busy though. No,
>> he's kind of crazy busy.
>> Yeah, I own a vodka company with him.
>> Yeah, he opened up a restaurant. We have
a 5K. You could have come run our 5K,
Joe?
>> No.
>> LA?
>> No. Come. I don't go to LA.
>> When was the last time you were there?
>> Uh,
I guess it was like I went there for the
UFC
7 months ago or something like that.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't go there anymore. I LA to me is
like a just a bad relationship. Like
that you like you run into a girl that
used to be cool and now she's just a
mess and you're like, "Oh."
>> You don't miss anything about it?
>> Nope.
[laughter]
I'm good at moving on.
>> Thanks for having me on, Joe.
>> My pleasure, brother. I love you to
death. All right. Bye, everybody.
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The podcast features a discussion about red light therapy and its effects on vision, with anecdotal evidence suggesting positive outcomes. The conversation then shifts to generational differences and the impact of technological advancements, particularly the internet and cell phones, on different age groups. The speakers also delve into the world of comedy, discussing prank calls, the work of comedians like Greg Fitzsimons and Shane Gillis, and the evolving nature of stand-up. A significant portion of the podcast is dedicated to exploring various cultural and societal topics, including the JFK assassination conspiracy, the influence of media, and the debate around vaccine efficacy and mandates. The latter half touches upon lucid dreaming, the history of Rasputin, the intricacies of the Watergate scandal, and the potential for fraud in historical narratives, using Helen Keller as an example. The discussion also includes personal health choices, the impact of social media, and reflections on what truly constitutes happiness and success, drawing parallels between physical struggle and mental well-being.
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