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>> What's happening?

>> What's up, buddy?

>> That's a hell of a [ __ ] bell puckle.

>> What is that? What is that? What's going

on there?

>> So, this one is uh for a horse I have

called Maverick Buzz the Tower that won

reserve at the Futurity.

>> And they give you a bellbuckle if you

win

>> a belt buckle and money. That's a dope

bell buckle.

>> Expensive belt buckle.

>> So guys like you that understand horses,

like if you saw someone with one of

those, you would know exactly what that

is right away.

>> Oh yeah. And the year, depending on the

year, I'm I'm going to know the horse.

>> It's like you fighter. It's like you had

fighters,

>> I guess. I guess it's probably similar.

Yeah.

>> Oh, that guy won the thing in 2012. He

fought so and so and that's the same

with me and horses. It's always so

interesting to me how these there's

these different sort of categories of

interest that people have that you know

one person might not know anything I

don't know anything about horses but

you're like [ __ ] balls deep you know

[ __ ] everything about it's crazy

>> it's such an interesting like pool of

knowledge the the people that are really

into horses and they start explaining

you like oh this is not as simple as

>> oh that's a horse and that's a horse too

like there's genetic lines and there's

certain tendencies that certain horses

actually pass on to their offspring.

>> Oh yeah,

>> it's crazy stuff.

>> There's a stallion and I really like

him. I've got a number of horses by the

st and his name's Spook's got a whiz and

and they're just incredibly balanced,

real feely, very very quickfooted, big

stoppers, but they they see dead people.

They see ghosts. So like

>> what?

>> Once every 3 months for no reason, this

thing's going to [ __ ] check out. And

I mean, check out just decide it's not

safe here. We're going back to the barn.

You can come with me or I'm gonna buck

your ass off or I'm gonna flip over. No,

he just loses his mind.

>> Whoa.

>> And you never know when it's going to

happen.

>> And his children have this as well.

>> Yeah.

>> Whoa.

>> Just a little quirk.

>> And that's but other than that,

they'reing automatic.

>> That's a big quirk. That's like if you

have a Corvette and it decides to drive

home.

>> Yeah. A little bit. A little bit.

>> Most of the time you can go to the

store. We all deal with it cuz they're

worth it,

>> I guess. But that seems so crazy. The

horsey. Do you really think it sees

ghosts?

>> It he I don't know what he sees. Some

kind of boogeyman. They're a lot of them

are deaf. So

>> really?

>> Yeah.

>> Why?

>> So Well, there's a there's a a gene.

Typically, if you see a horse with a

white face and the white goes above the

eyes, typically that horse is deaf.

>> Wow.

>> And so they can't hear,

but they can feel the vibrations. So

like that that could that could set one

of those horses off.

>> Just anything pounding on the ground

that might be something chasing it.

>> Yeah. I mean they're prey animals.

>> Right. Right. Right.

>> So

>> wow. The deaf thing is crazy. I wonder

if that has any sort of an advantage

where they could sort of tune out

distractions.

You know, I would imagine if a horse is

at a rodeo.

>> Yes, 100%. Because you know this crowds

are screaming and yelling it's not going

to bother them. Now, if they start

stomping their feet, I was going to show

this one horse of mine and I'm about to

run in the pen and all these guys are

cheering for this Italian rider and

they're all beating on the side of the

arena.

>> Oh.

>> And my horse checked the [ __ ] out.

>> He checked the [ __ ] out.

>> Like a whole herd of elephants.

>> Wow. I could imagine how weird that is

for the horse. Like it's being told to

do something, but its instincts are

like, "No, we got to get the [ __ ] out of

here. I can't hear anything.

>> That's nuts.

>> The hearing thing. There's a a a famous

pool player. His name is Shane Van

Boning. He's like one of the greatest

pool players of all time, if not the

greatest. And he's deaf. And he has

hearing aids. And when he plays, he

shuts him off. He just goes click

>> and goes into this world,

>> the zone

>> just of balls and geometry and just

doesn't miss. Just he's a horrifying

person to play. And because the fact

that he's got that extra sense shut off,

like the hearing, he can shut it off.

It's not just that. I mean, he's also

obsessive. He practices 10 hours a day.

I He's a all-time wizard.

>> Like he's won the US Open, which is the

hardest tournament to win in all of

pool. He's won it five times,

>> which is just not There's only one other

guy in history, Earl Strickland, that's

won it five times.

>> Everybody plays pool. Like everybody a

little. Yeah. But then the levels to the

game, like you start getting a

professional pool player.

>> Yeah.

>> And they're playing a totally different

game.

>> It's a totally different at just

watching it, you realize like, oh my

god, what am I doing? I'm hitting the

ball way too hard. I don't know what I'm

doing. My angles are all [ __ ] up. Like

this guy's playing that with English. I

would have just hit it straight.

>> You watch a spin, a back spin, it hits

over here and the it's just

>> it's the control of the ball. It's just

like they're part of the the stick is

the part of their body. The stick and

the ball, they're all connected in space

and time and they know where that ball's

going within millimeters. It's it's nuts

to watch. Like some of these guys,

they'll hit a ball and it'll travel,

it's a 9 foot table. It'll travel all

the [ __ ] away around the It's like a 12t

distance and it'll go in a 2-in spot and

you just go, "Fuck me."

It's crazy. And then if you do that and

you're deaf, too. Like you don't even

hear the cheers. You're just still in

the zone.

>> Just hyperfocused.

>> Yeah. Just hyperfocused. Autism probably

helps too if you have that.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, little little

>> Oh, yeah. Just a touch of

>> I got a little I think

>> I think anybody's good at anything

>> anybody's good at anything is either

ADHD or autistic.

>> Yeah.

>> They tried to give me medicine for the

ADHD.

>> Did they?

>> Yeah. I'm like, "Fuck no."

>> How old were you when they tried to give

it to you?

>> Oh, when I Well, they did give it to me

when I was a kid.

>> Really?

>> Yeah. What? they give you

>> and then you're who knows but whatever

you're little bottomized right and then

[ __ ]

>> and so I stopped taking it just cuz I

was now you're just like

>> you know and so my parents were like

[ __ ] it just let him run around let him

>> my neighbor's kid they gave it to him

when I when I lived in California it was

such a bummer he was this wild little

kid and they gave it to him and all a

sudden he was flat

>> Yep.

>> And I was like and the lady was like oh

he's on medication now because he's

hyperactive. I'm like, "Oh my god, not

my kid. Not my place. I'm not saying

nothing.

>> I just go to work." You know, I was

single back then and I was like 28 or

29. And I just I was just so confused

how you could do that. And I kept

thinking like if somebody did that to me

when I was a kid, [ __ ] for sure I would

have been on drugs. Yeah.

>> If my parents knew about those options,

they could shut me the [ __ ] up. If I had

the wrong parent, my parents wouldn't

have done it, but if I had the wrong

parents, 100% I had all the traits that

would have allowed me to get on rin or

whatever. superpower if you understand

it. It's a superpower.

>> Yeah. If you could find something you

love.

>> People People say, "How in the world can

you write a script? You write all these

things." Like it's not that hard. Like

once I know what it is, I can sit You

could sit me in an airport

around a thousand people. I won't hear

them and I can sit there for 12 hours

straight

>> cuz you love it.

>> I just get I just hyperfocus.

>> But if somebody wants you to pay

attention to the history of Pop-Tarts or

something, it's not going in there.

physically can't do it.

>> Yeah. It's not going in there.

>> Yeah. That's that's the superpower. The

superpower is you could find something

you love and focus on it. But

>> the way our education system is designed

is so ass backwards. You take kids that

are so energetic and they have so much

life and you just squeeze it out of

them. Just sit still, stay put, listen

to boring [ __ ] And all day they're just

fighting this desire to scream and just

run out of the building and go do

something fun. Wasn't the um like

essentially what we call the modern

public education system founded by or

really by the Rockefellers as a as a

means to create workers.

>> Yep. Yep.

>> Like that's it.

>> Compliant workers and soldiers

>> conform. Just one of the reasons why

they decided to start school so early

for kids is the earlier you can start

them, the more you can get them to do

whatever you want them to do. And the

more you can get them to pledge

allegiance and get really excited about

this that or the other thing, including

all the trans stuff that you see in

school, all the pride stuff. And

teachers are working with preschool kids

and they're talking about sexuality and

you're like, they're [ __ ] six. Like

they don't know what you're talking

like, why are you even talking to them

about that? Because you can get them

early and you can program those thoughts

into their mind that this is a good

cause. And it could be anything. It

could be your religion. It could be your

political ideology. It could be being a

Christian, being a Muslim, whatever. If

you get kids young enough, you can talk

them into doing almost anything. That's

why they have child suicide bombers.

They don't try to get guys in their 40s

with a family to strap a vest on. They

try to get kids.

>> Yeah. And you know what what'll really

bake a couple of noodles is if you look

at because all these things are funded,

all these nonprofits and NGOs's they're

off, but where's the money come from?

And when you look at where the money

comes from and you realize, oh wait a

minute, and it's been coming for 40, 50

years from these places. Qatar for

example, obviously Russia, China, all

these our enemies

donating money to all of these various

groups to divide to just eat away from

the inside.

>> Russia's been doing it since the 70s.

>> Yeah. 60s.

>> 60s. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> That uh Yuri Bezmanov, I'm sure you've

seen that video.

>> Anybody who hasn't, please watch it.

It's Yuri Bezmanov and it's in 1984. And

this guy is essentially describing what

America is going to look like

eventually. And he's dead on. Just dead

on. Dead on with the communism, the

Marxism, the stuff in the universities,

just completely poison their mind. Push

out any ideas of patriotism being a

virtue. All the hate for America that

you have, like all the division, all of

it engineered. Yeah. It's wild.

>> Just look at who it benefits. That's it.

That's it. It's real simple.

>> Yeah. just look and see who it benefits.

>> Well, it benefits a lot of people in

this country as well. Unfortunately,

there's a lot of people that really love

division and they can profit off of it

and they can work work an angle. You

know, we're with you. And this is a big

part of the problem with the whole idea

of nonprofits because nonprofits in

theory are awesome. It's a great thing

that people are willing to donate their

money. like wealthy people who are doing

well say, "You know what? I I think my

money could be best suited helping out

other people. It's beautiful. It's one

of the most amazing notions about people

when they can be charitable when they

don't have to be. They do it because

they want to and they really want to

help. Then you find out what's really

going on and that the majority of the

money is going to overhead and

employees."

>> Well, think about this. If if I create a

nonprofit to go solve Well, LA is a

perfect example. We can look at the

homeless situation that they have there

and all of these NOS's that are getting

all of this money

>> and the problem's getting worse. It's

not getting better,

>> right?

>> It's getting worse. But if I form an NGO

and that's my cause and I solve the

problem, well then what do I what do I

do with my NGO?

>> Exactly.

>> Now I got no money. Now there's no

reason to give me money. So they they

don't create them to solve problems.

Anything exacerbate the problem.

>> Make the problem worse. Make it longer.

Make it bigger. Look how big the problem

is. We need more money.

>> Some guy was doing a breakdown of the

people that work in the homeless

industry industry I say in air quotes in

California because that's really what it

is. It's they spent $ 24 billion on the

homeless problem and no one can account

for it. And they they tried to get an

accounting of it. They tried to do an

audit of it and Newsome vetoed it.

Vetoed it. Like why would you want to

know? Let's stop Let's stop all that

nonsense and build this [ __ ] train

track to nowhere that's never gonna get

built.

>> Well, they have a mile of it. They have

a mile of that train.

>> Only cost a hundred billion dollars.

Relax.

>> Like things take time.

>> They have a [ __ ] mile. Well, we're

trying to choose the path. How about

right beside the I5? How about that? How

about right next to the flat [ __ ]

highway?

>> Everything they do sucks. Yeah.

>> How about that stupid [ __ ] road over

the highway to make sure the mountain

lines are safe?

>> Yeah. It's like over hund00 million

still not done.

>> And they have them, by the way, that's

not a new concept. They have those

throughout the West. Yeah. And they

don't cost [ __ ] They don't cost much

money at all. And they they fix them

quick. They do it quick.

>> It's just

>> Yeah. They're done in a couple of

months.

>> Yeah. Pour some cement, put some sod

down, plant some [ __ ] grass, and away

you go.

>> Away you go.

>> But there but we're we're applying logic

to a state that doesn't use that. It's

it is a it's like it is as goofy as it

gets and then you think it's as goofy as

it gets and then you hear that Portland

just okay so this is going to be on the

ballot in November. It got enough votes

to be on the ballot and this is some law

that's under the guise of stop animal

cruelty. Well, who doesn't want to stop

animal cruelty? I certainly want to stop

animal cruelty. Let's stop animal

cruelty. So what does it mean? It means

no hunting, no fishing, no ranching, no

agriculture,

no animals that get harmed in any way.

No killing chickens for Kentucky fried

chicken, nothing. No animals die. And

it's a city or [ __ ] vote. Oregon is

voting on this in November.

>> No fishing. No fishing. What are you

saying? Are you [ __ ] high?

>> And and no so

>> no hunting, no ranching. Ranching? You

can't ranch? You going to kill a cow?

What? Are you crazy? That's illegal in

Oregon.

>> And here's that's probably sounds like a

good idea to one of those people. And

then but here's my question. All right,

so let's do it. Let's just say let's

just outlaw

ranching. Let's just say [ __ ] it.

>> Well, there's 91 million cattle in the

country. So what do we do with them? You

just leave them alone. Let nature take

its course.

>> Yeah, but but there's but they're not

but there's no there's no nature to take

its course.

>> It's 91 million head of [ __ ] cattle.

And I can promise you this. If you

outlaw me feeding them and taking care

of them, I'm not going to then they're

then they're wandering the highway.

>> Yeah. And then the bulls are out.

>> Yeah.

>> So you going to keep the bulls

contained? No. The bulls are going to

kill people.

>> Yeah. And and make more cattle and

>> and make more cattle.

>> Yeah. So now we have 900 million cattle

in three decades.

>> Yeah. And [ __ ] all your fences. Bulls

are going to smash them.

Bulls are going to eat your grass. Bills

are going to bulls are going to stomp

your dog. Like what are you talking

about?

>> It's I can't.

>> But it's not supposed to be logical.

It's all just a vibe, man. It's like and

it's not even a wellthoughtout one. But

the problem is you don't have to be well

thought out to get on the ballot. You

just have to appeal to certain

sensibilities and then all a sudden

people are like, "Oh, that would be

good. Let's stop animal cruelty."

>> And they're probably on SSRIs anyway.

>> It it'll it'll probably pass.

>> Nah. N I don't think it'll pass.

>> According to this New York Times

article, it was a guy one guy

>> one guy

>> got 135,000 signatures and got it passed

to that level.

>> I wonder how many of them are homeless

people. Um, he moved to Portland from

Denver from Southern California where

I'm trying to

>> do we have a photo of this dude? I want

to see what this guy looks like.

>> Show him. But it's

>> Of course he's from Southern California.

>> Of course he is. He's a vegan. Oh,

that's weird. I would have never

guessed.

>> Substitute teacher.

>> Oh, substitute teacher.

>> Keeps getting better.

>> I lost it.

>> What else?

>> That's all it was saying. They didn't

frame him very well.

>> Well, it shouldn't. It's a crazy idea.

There you go. Mickelson.

>> Yeah.

>> Substitute teacher, vegan, and petitions

organizer.

>> It's to have a system where we're not

killing or hurting animals anymore. I

love how he said a system. What are you

talking about? What does that mean?

What's a system? You're talking about

nature. What are you talking about? Like

they're going to kill each other,

stupid. Like, what the [ __ ] are you

talking about? Is it somehow another

less cruel with them when a mountain

lion gets into a pen of sheep and tears

them apart?

>> Yeah.

He figured the chance of meeting another

gay vegan were better in Portland.

>> He's probably not wrong.

>> Yeah, it's probably a good bet.

>> Solid bet.

>> Yeah.

>> Jesus.

>> He was sitting there going, "Midland,

Texas, Portland, Oregon. Where am I?

Where you got to go to Portland?

>> Go to Portland and take some medication.

Just [ __ ] have a good time." There he

is.

>> There we go.

>> Hey, fella.

>> Oh, he's already gotten too much

attention from us. Yeah, it's uh there's

a lot of silly people in the world and

you know like we were talking about with

young people, if you get young people

indoctrinated early enough to think

these silly ideas make sense,

>> which is one of the reasons why I love

that Kevin Cosner moment on your show

when uh he had explained to that vegan

lady.

>> Oh yeah,

>> it's such a good moment.

>> How cute does an animal have to be

before you care if it [ __ ] lives?

>> Yeah. And what the actual like what life

gets killed when you're just talking

about farming just food.

>> Plow in a field.

>> Yeah. Just plowing a field or

>> or go or go build a road.

>> You want to destroy some [ __ ]

organisms, go build a road.

>> Yeah. And if you're riding on those

roads,

>> you're in that system. And then there's

the bees. Like the amount of bees that

die every year so we could have avocados

is bananas.

>> Yeah. bring them in from Brazil

>> by the billions. By the billions by the

bee and they die bees and then on top

the So it's avocados and almonds. Those

are the two big ones, right?

>> Yeah. Almonds. You know what's

fascinating? And I'm going to We can

look it up.

Almonds. The amount. It's something like

19 gallons of water is what you have to

give to get one almond.

>> Is that real? Yeah. Yeah, we can we can

Yeah, it's [ __ ] bananas.

>> My doctor told me almonds aren't even

good for you.

>> Well, you know, it's

>> he said they're okay for you. He said,

but you know, there's

>> there was a time in the Mediterranean

where they were they were poisonous.

They have strict nine in them. And it's

one of the first domesticated plants.

And what people realized, whoever homo

sapiens or Neanderthalss, whoever's

wandering around, they're like, "The

squirrels are eating those poisonous

nuts from that tree." Huh? They're okay

from this one, not okay from that one.

>> So they started cutting down and

uprooting all the ones where the

squirrels wouldn't eat.

>> Oh, interesting.

>> Yeah. And so that's so the almond

originally.

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gallons of water per pound.

That's so crazy.

>> And then,

>> oh my god,

>> here's here's my new like look, I'm a

writer, right? So words matter to me and

when we when we misuse them in our

society, it just bothers me, right? So

>> all these things that we're calling

milk, like almond almond milk,

>> right?

>> And I'm and I'm just determined to call

it almond juice because that's what it

[ __ ] is. It's not even almond juice.

It's not like we're extracting.

>> It's almond tea almost. We're we're

taking almonds, pulverizing them, and

brining them in water,

>> essentially leeching out the flavor of

the almond, and then adding a bunch of

[ __ ] to it and sugar and whatever,

>> adding a lot of sugar. My friend Duncan

was like, "Dude, almond milk is good for

you." I go, "You look at how much sugar

is in there?" And we were on the phone.

He goes, "Holy shit." I go, "Yeah, man.

That's why it tastes good." But my

doctor told me I had oxalates in my

diet, in my my blood test. He said,

"Your oxalates are kind of high." He

goes, "Are you eating almonds?" And I

said, 'Yeah, I eat almonds all the

time.' He's like, "Yeah, cut back." He

goes, "That's where it's from."

>> Really?

>> Yeah. See, find out how much how much

oxalates are in almonds. I just listen

to them. And also, it's a lot of like um

a lot of that gluten-free flour stuff.

>> If you buy a lot of that stuff, it's

like almond flour a lot of the times,

>> right?

>> Almonds are a high oxalate food. Eating

them can raise oxalate levels that

circulate, get filtered by the kidneys

and appear in urine, which may increase

kidney stone risk in susceptible people.

Yeah,

>> almonds contain about 296 milligs of

oxalate per 100 grams, roughly 4

milligrams per nut, putting them in the

high oxilate category.

Yeah. He said they're not bad if you

just have them every now and then. He

goes, but don't don't do it on a regular

basis. Huh. Yeah.

There's a lot of stuff that is high

oxilates that people don't think about

it that can really [ __ ] you up. Kale,

for instance, like I used to drink kale

smoothies all the time until another

doctor told me, "You really should cook

the kale.

>> Cook it and then filter out whatever the

water's in it." And I go, "Really?" I

go, "Why?" He goes, "Oxalates." He goes,

"You want to cook the oxalates out of

them."

>> Really?

>> Yeah. And that's apparently what causes

a lot of kidney stones with some folks.

ly drink a lot of those green smoothies,

which I used to do every day. I used to

take a bunch of kale, throw in a bunch

of apples and some ginger and some

garlic and blend it all up and drink at

the beginning of the day. I thought I

was doing a good thing.

>> And he was like, "You're just blasting

your system with oxalates." And I was

like, "Oh, all right."

>> Yeah.

>> Have some [ __ ] eggs, bro.

>> He said, "Have bacon. Have some bacon."

I'm like, "Fucking bacon's better for

you?" Like that. My journey of figuring

out what to eat was a long one. It was a

long one. And then thank god I got this

podcast because if I hadn't had all

those conversations with people where I

realized like oh so we're like and now

the food pyramid's completely flipped

which is hilarious.

>> Yeah.

>> But it's like I've had enough

conversations where I realize like oh

all these people don't know what the

[ __ ] they're talking about and they're

giving advice and it's weird. It's weird

how much bad advice there is for food

and for health and for

>> [ __ ] fill in the blank almost

everything in our society.

>> The food pyramid was created by Johnson

and Johnson. Yeah. Or Kelloggs, which is

like how do we get people to eat our

[ __ ] in the morning and then again at

lunch and then Well, the one thing that

we can't control and they talk about the

the one thing that we do not have is

this massive industrialized meat

production because there's no there's no

economical way to do it. They'd do it if

they could. Harris Ranch, which you

you've probably seen off I5 in uh in

California's the closest version of

that. But what it is is a feed yard,

right? Where you get them together and

feed cattle for 90 to 150 days before

you go send them off and slaughter them,

right? That's the closest thing there is

to an industrialized beef industry

because it's an very inefficient way.

It's way better to farm, right? It's

more efficient to farm than it is grace

cattle. So, you only want to graze

cattle somewhere that you can't farm. At

the end of the day, you want to graze

cattle are great at taking protein from

poor protein sources and metabolizing

it, right? So, graze them in real rocky

terrain with native grasses that that

you can't farm. You can't till it just

can't. Um, and it needs to be eaten by

something or weeds will overtake it,

right? Because grasses

>> grass grows better when it's being

grazed. Um, and so there's no way to

industrialize that or centralize it. the

most centralized it is is at the packing

house right where you've got four

packing major packing houses um that

control 90 something% of the beef

industry and that's starting to change

co was extremely helpful for the smaller

farmer and rancher to sit there and get

their product out right and find small

they start popping up people have opened

these USDA facilities that that don't

process 800 head of cattle an hour they

maybe do 50 or 50 a

And now people can go there because

they're a USDA facility. They can buy

beef directly from them. Buy it from the

rancher, right? And you can control

where your food's coming from as opposed

to what what was happening um where

you'd get a bunch of if you're going to

go get a burger, you're you're eating

some Australian killer bull, right, for

the most part or some something from

Brazil or you're not eating something

that you want to eat, right? Um, when

you go to a nice steakhouse, the the

stakes there are

they're going to come from most likely

Texas, uh, Iowa, Nebraska, Montana.

There's there's select areas where

people are spending that kind of

attention and time to raise that kind of

quality of beef, right? Um, and it's

being done by smaller ranchers. It may

be a big ranch, but it's still operated

by relatively few people. You know, 4

sixes is 300,000 acres, but there's 12

cowboys.

>> Wow. 12 cowboys for 300,000 acres is

nuts.

>> Yeah.

>> How do they keep track of everything?

>> I mean, we break it down into pastures

and then you have uh and then the

pastures fall under the terminology is

this. say, "Oh, if you're in Guthrie,

there's a there's a camp, and we we call

it South Camp, um because it's in the

south, and it's responsible for 50,000

acres, right? Which is broken down into

multiple pastures that are between 7 and

10,000 acres. There's one big pastor in

that in that camp that's like 14,000

acres." Um, and so then you have North

Camp, you have what we call then we have

camps around the town, little town of

Guthrie. So you break it down into the

responsibility of each cowboys somewhere

between 35 and 50,000 acres.

Wow, that's a hell of a responsibility.

>> Yeah,

>> that's a lot of work, man.

>> A lot of work. What's it, you know

what's really interesting about your

shows, particularly Yellowstone, it got

people like really attracted to the idea

of brutal hard work as being romantic.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, people like really identified

with those guys on Yellowstone that were

just like so dedicated to that ranch, so

dedicated to busting their ass and

working all day hard [ __ ] work and

then just hanging out together

afterwards. And there's something about

that life that's so simplistic and

romantic to people that it just really

resonated with so many people. They

didn't even know that they liked that.

Well, it's it's uniquely American,

right? And and the amount of freedom

that is. So, we move somebody out to

South Camp and we go, "Okay, so here you

are. There's your house at South Camp.

See you in a week or so.

Go figure [ __ ] out.

keep track of the cattle and you give

them a string of horses and they work

their horses and they and they ride that

property. They know every inch of it and

you don't ever you don't we don't we

don't have weekly corporate meetings.

>> How do they get supplies? Is it is like

the house stocked in advance?

>> Yeah. Go to town, you know, towns which

is an endeavor, right? Town's 90 miles

away. Um so you go to town once a week,

right? Adventure, stock up,

>> go back.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. But it's it's

>> it's a crazy life

>> and people incorrect. Not every this

isn't true of every cowboy. There's

plenty of cowboys that typically they

grow up on that ranch and that's the

life that they know and that's what they

want to do, right? But they still go off

to college. Like almost every one of my

cowboys has a ranch management degree.

Like they went to school.

>> Wow.

>> To study.

>> What's a good school if you want to be a

cowboy?

>> I mean there's a quite a few of them.

Texas Tech. I mean, that's a phenomenal

ranch management program. A bunch of the

guys on the sixes went there. TCU has a

ranch management program, a good one.

Texas A&M. Um, you know, we have a we

have vets that live on the ranch.

Obviously, we breed a ton of horses. Um,

and so our vets, Colorado State's an

excellent veterinary school for large

animal vets. Obviously, Texas A&M is a

phenomenal school. Texas Tech as well.

Those are

>> Dude, how the [ __ ] do you pay attention

to everything? You're running a gigantic

ranch and you have about 48 TV shows.

How the [ __ ] do you do it? I don't

understand it. I Every time a new Taylor

Sheridan show pops up, I say to my wife,

I go, "How the [ __ ] is he doing this?"

Like, where does he have this time? Part

of it is, if you think about it, so my

crew, my core crew is the same crew I

made Wind River with, like when we had

no money. I remember one time I'm on the

top of a mountain with me and my first

AD and my DP, uh, Ben Richardson, and

there's not a producer. We haven't seen

anybody in a week. And I looked at,

we're freezing our asses off at 7 below

zero in northern Utah. And I'm like,

guys, you know, we could just [ __ ] off

to Hawaii. Nobody would know for a

while. Like,

we have we have their we have their

money. They don't know. They don't

actually know where we are. they're just

trusting that we're going to make this

movie, which we did. Um, and it was

incredibly difficult. But that's the

same team that went over and did

Yellowstone, which is then the same team

that went up and did Mayor of Kingtown

with me and then 1883, 23, Lionus, Land

Man, all of them. And we've promoted

from within. I've got PAs that are now

first ads. I've got uh camera operators

that are now directors. Um, so we've

promoted from within so everyone

understands the way we do it and it's so

faking efficient. We don't ever have and

you know because you've been in this

industry forever.

These people will have meetings upon

meeting upon meeting. They'll have a

they'll have a tone meeting where a

whole bunch of people are going to sit

around and try and talk about the tone

of the script. Wouldn't you read the

[ __ ] thing?

You We have to have a meeting about it.

How about we don't have a meeting about

it? And then they'll have a they'll have

a and this is also networks. They love

this [ __ ] So that they can have a

reason for their existence, right? All

these middle management people

>> and they want to do a prop showand tell

where someone's going to come show them

all the props that we're going to use.

>> Really?

>> Well, we don't do that [ __ ] because I'm

like, I need your permission to use

which which Bick lighter I'm going to

use in this [ __ ] scene. How about I

just make the decision? And how about we

use the same Bick lighter in all these

[ __ ] shows and I don't ever have to

pick a Bick lighter again. How about

that? So, we just streamlined it and

made it to where it's so efficient.

Typically, a TV show will start up and

they'll prep for 12 weeks before they

start filming. We We do it in four.

Wow. Well, that makes sense. It makes

sense that it's streamlined because I've

been on shows when they first start out

and it's chaos and there's a lot of

network involvement and there's a lot of

[ __ ] but then once it gets going,

they go, "Oh, you guys know what you're

doing."

>> Yeah.

>> Leave me alone.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> We're there from the beginning now.

>> That's beautiful.

>> We haven't missed if you don't miss,

>> right? Well, it's like you don't miss

like you don't miss with the writing.

You don't miss with the story lines.

Like you don't have any duds, man. Which

is incred This is incredible. It's an

incredible accomplishment to to have

that many [ __ ] shows and all of them

be good and all of them be, you know,

like very addictive. You know, Land Man

is so addictive.

>> It's it's that show. It's about

something very serious and then I can

just throw [ __ ] at it.

>> Yeah. Let's just take a bunch of old

people to a strip club.

>> Billy Bob is [ __ ] awesome.

>> He's a genius.

>> I love that guy. He's so good on that

show. It's like it was made for him.

>> It was made for him.

>> I mean, he's done so many things. I went

to Billy Bob before I uh before I wrote

a word and I told him I said if you

don't do this I'm not going to do it

because I'm not going to chase my tail.

>> He goes what is it? I said I want to do

I said basically I want to take your

character from Bad Santa and put him in

West Texas and run an oil company.

>> He goes, "You want the guy from Bad

Santa to run the oil company?" I said,

"That's what I want." He goes, "That

sounds [ __ ] awesome."

Yeah.

>> Well, it's it's educational, too. I

mean, a lot of people like have no idea

how the oil business works. And you you

watch that show, you go, "Jesus Christ,

what a crazy job." It's an insane job.

And and and the other thing about it is

we're so completely dependent upon

petroleum in every single aspect of our

lives. So completely dependent upon it.

And we can debate how bad it is or isn't

and and and or not debate it. The

reality is we don't have an alternative.

Like it does not exist. It simply

doesn't exist. And we could sit there

and say, "Well, wind and this." No. You

sit down with any climatologist and any

engineer, they're going to tell you,

"Our best hope for a replacement of

petroleum fuels is cold fusion." And

we're 30, 40 years from it, being

something that we can rely upon

>> and reduce little nuclear reactors, like

itty bitties, like

>> the size of this coffee pot.

>> That's what they're talking about.

They're talking about like individual

reactors that people have in their

homes. Like, how long does it take

before there's disasters?

Like, that sounds [ __ ] Having a

really good nuclear power plant for a

city is an awesome idea. Having everyone

have their own nuclear power plant

sounds [ __ ] crazy.

>> You know,

>> how many [ __ ] are going to cut into

that thing?

>> Well, people still put [ __ ] metal in

microwaves, so I don't think we should

be giving

>> I've done it. I'm like, well, how bad

can it really be?

>> There's people that leave their [ __ ]

gas on so that someone can die in the

house. No, we don't.

>> People are nuts.

>> People are nuts. If you literally have

consumer level nuclear power plants,

>> not with these monkeys. That's what Not

with the human beings that we are today,

our our current form. We're not

enlightened enough to have personal

nuclear power plants in our house.

>> Oh, [ __ ]

>> Yeah. So, we're we're we're dependent

upon it. Um,

>> that's why we're in Iran right now.

>> Also because of Israel. But I mean we're

we're in Iran. I mean the whole thing

about it is the oil the straight of

Hormuz. It's like I think it's 40% of

the world's oil supply passes through

there.

>> Yeah.

>> Like Christ.

>> No. That's And and and I think also

China.

>> Mhm.

>> It's a big play against It's a chess

piece against China.

>> Mhm.

>> That's what I think.

>> Yeah. All of it's [ __ ] terrifying.

>> What uh And I'm not saying we should

have or we shouldn't have. I'm not

commenting politically, but

what those guys, those SF guys did in

Venezuela was [ __ ] gangster.

>> It's crazy.

>> Whether I'm not saying they should or

shouldn't. I'm just saying,

>> right?

>> The team was sent and and the team I

mean, can you imagine if I wrote it in a

movie, people would go, "That's [ __ ]

ridiculous, Taylor."

>> Right? We don't have fly a bunch of SF

dudes, drop them off on the roof of this

high-rise surrounded by the [ __ ]

Cuban special forces and they're going

to kill all of them. And then they're

going to [ __ ] snatch him and his

wife, go back to the roof, and just

[ __ ] fly away.

That's what they did.

>> And they're going to do it with sound.

They're going to disable everyone with a

sound weapon. Like what?

>> Like there was Do you remember when they

first started talking about that Havana

syndrome and people were dismissing it?

This is horshit. This is [ __ ] Like,

no. They're talking about people that

are in Havana that they've been

targeted. Something zapped them.

>> Lowle frequencies that made them

nauseous. Yeah.

>> Yeah. And I think that is a fraction of

whatever they unleashed in Venezuela.

>> Who knows?

>> The discombobulator, that's what it's

called, classified secret weapon system

President Donald Trump claimed US forces

used during the January 3rd operation to

capture Venezuelan President Nicholas

Maduro. He stated that the weapon

successfully disabled enemy equipment

and air defenses, preventing them from

firing back. So, it's it's both it

disables the people and it disables

their weapon system.

What? That's amazing. What the [ __ ] are

we doing? Official silence. When asked

for specific technical or operational

details about how the device functions,

Trump famously told New York Post, "I'm

not allowed to talk about it."

They He says, "They press buttons. They

claimed the defense forces pressed

buttons and nothing worked, disabling

both Russian and Chinese-made rockets

and radar.

If we affected both mechanical equipment

and personnel, he also referred to it at

He also referred to a sonic weapon being

used against Maduro's Cuban security

detail inside a heavily fortified

fortress.

[ __ ] a man.

>> I would love to see what that looks

like, you know? I bet they have video,

too. How about these guys? Sure.

>> Yeah.

>> All wearing GoPros.

>> I'd love to go into a skiff. Just show

me the video. I won't say nothing. I

want to see what it looks like. I just

want to watch what does it look like

when somebody gets zapped by sound and

gets fully disabled. Like apparently

they just fell to the ground in agony.

They couldn't move.

>> Yeah.

>> And they just went in and shot

everybody.

>> Some freaking SF snipers are just

freaking on top of that just raining

down on them. It's

>> crazy. Like that guy thought he was

safe. Crazy. And there's a famous video

of him saying, "Come and get me."

>> Oh yeah,

>> bro.

>> Yeah. Be careful. Don't what bear you

poke.

>> Yeah. Also, it's like we none of us know

what the tip of the spear technology and

weapon systems is available right now.

We don't know. They don't tell us. They

don't tell us. Obviously, no one knew

that this [ __ ] discombobulator thing

existed.

>> This is science fiction.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. If this was 20 years ago, you'd

be like, "That's not a real thing."

>> But now you're like, "Oh [ __ ] they used

it. It's not not just a concept. They

[ __ ] used it. What else? What are

they what are they cooking out in the

desert in the middle of Nevada? Who

knows?

>> Yeah. And think about this. For that to

be used, there's something four

generations past that

>> 100%

>> that they're playing with now.

>> Yeah. 100%. You know, this whole UAP

world stuff like when they start talking

about UAPs, all of my [ __ ] alarms go

off. All of them. It's like I don't

believe if you knew things you would

tell us. So, I don't believe you're

telling us the truth. I think they have

some special access programs that

they've been working on for decades and

decades and some super highlevel [ __ ]

that involves some sort of novel

propulsion system and they have that

stuff flying around in the sky. And I

think that's what a lot of people are

saying. That's what a lot of people are

saying. That doesn't discount the idea

that there's something else out there

because I think there is. But I think

there's a giant chunk of the [ __ ] that

people are seeing that's ours.

>> Yeah. Testing.

>> Yeah. Testing. Doing stuff with it.

>> If there was an intelligent life form

that had stumbled upon our barbaric

asses, why would they not go, "Hey guys,

fire up that [ __ ] missile and take we

found this blue planet. We got to get

rid of this thing."

>> Well, I think maybe every intelligent

species that's tribal and territorial

has to go through an adolescent period

of their evolution. And if you look at

human history, you know, I was reading

about Vlad the Impaler last night. Jesus

Christ. And how how many of the Ottoman

Turks that got killed and his famous

methods of putting people on posts and

separating them down the line on the

road so that as these poor guys are

traveling to go and fight him, they just

see the enemy stuck on skewers and in

geometric patterns and [ __ ] He would do

them in like stars and stuff. Just he

was a vicious [ __ ] and he's the

the motivation behind or the, you know,

the inspiration behind Dracula.

>> And I was reading about that guy. I'm

like, [ __ ] People have always been

awful. They've always been awful, but

they just like as time goes on, they get

a little less awful. A little less. Like

we're a little less awful now than we

were during Nazi Germany. Not totally

great.

>> Not collectively. Certain.

>> We're still willing to do genocide. Some

of us are, but it's less less approved.

It's less

more people are horrified at it. It's

like human beings are getting a little

bit better. It's it's not as quick as

we'd like. And I think if I was an alien

life form, I would say you have to wait

this out. It's like if you have a kid,

you got to let the kid fall down and

stumb stumble. You got to let him get

hurt. You got to let things happen. You

got to let him [ __ ] up and figure it out

himself. You got to figure this out.

Make it right. You [ __ ] this up. You

got to give them a chance to become

better,

>> right?

>> I think as a civilization, I would think

the same thing would apply. You have to

give this civilization time to evolve

and adapt and get past where it's at

right now. And I don't think that you do

that by intervening and like grabbing us

by the hand and showing us the way. I

think what you do is you hang back and

make sure that we don't nuke each other

and just sort of pay attention to all

the different international ongoings and

just let human beings slowly but surely

evolve.

>> Yeah,

>> that's what I would do if I was a

intelligent life form observing people.

The interesting thing that we're as a

civilization facing now and and it's

always happened in some capacity when a

society gets

wealthy, really wealthy, and people

start to question wealth and how can we

be more equitable and and it comes

across like compassion, but it really

comes down to a debate of what is more

valuable to a society. Is

self-determination more valuable or is

equity more valuable? And by equity,

what I mean is everyone gets exactly the

same [ __ ] Everyone. So you take them

off of We're not on a monetary society

anymore. Now you're working for the

collective. And you're hearing that word

thrown around a lot,

>> right,

>> these days. The problem with working for

the collective is um who decides who

picks up the trash and who decides who

gets to

go represent your nation at the

Olympics? who gets to decide who gets to

um is someone going to let me go make TV

shows, which by the way I wouldn't do

for free. It's too [ __ ] hard,

>> right?

>> Um so now I don't want to do it.

>> Well then you got to go do do this.

Well, I don't want to do that either.

>> And that's the problem.

>> And then they force you to do things.

And then how do they do that? They do

that with guns.

>> Yeah. So then so so the you either have

self-determination or in your attempt to

be collective you have to surrender that

and then you're surrendering it to who

and and now you have a dictatorship no

matter what the [ __ ] you thought you

had.

>> Yeah.

>> It always comes back to that. It always

you can you can look at

>> Marxism and Leninism and what Linen was

talking about his hopes whether they

were his hopes or not. Um but it it

devolved into uh an authoritarian regime

very very quickly and and you know

communism, socialism, fascism, uh

Nazism, they're all very very similar.

The differences are superficial. I think

Ann Ran said that they're just

superficial variations between the exact

same thing which is the evil of the

collective.

>> The evil of the collective and human

beings desire to control their people.

>> Yeah. They love to they and and anytime

you give them a chance where they could

feel righteous about controlling people,

they jump at it and they can they have

an opportunity to classify people.

There's good people and bad people. And

the bad people, you can do whatever you

want to them. They're the other. And

that that happens with every every time

groups get into power like that and tell

you what you can and can't do. And

you're seeing that being embraced

shockingly more and more all over the

world. people are embracing more

government power and more government

control and it's really crazy. It's

really crazy to see.

>> It's unique. I think that

number one I think in 30 years when they

look back like we are still suffering

from a society

uh from COVID like still and and not so

much from the disease itself but from

our faith in the institutions around us

whether it's government whether it's the

media whether it's pharmaceutical

companies um and

the the way that it was manipulated to

gain power for a political group and it

was effective and so when something's

effective then people just keep doing

the same thing until it's no longer

effective right um we did that in our

military with the wind's hearts and

minds right so that was all that all

comes from Japan right we're going to

win the hearts and minds of Japanese

well the Japanese surrendered like their

emperor who they looked at as a god

He told the people of Japan after we

dropped two freaking nuclear bombs on

them, hey, we are going to endure the

unendurable. We are going to surrender.

It's the only way that we can salvage

our nation. So, they willfully

surrendered. And then our government

goes, "Look how great this hearts and

mind stuff's working. It's not working.

It's not working at all." And then they

tried it in Vietnam, didn't work. Tried

it everywhere else that we've had a

conflict. We've tried it and it hasn't

worked yet because what it was based on

was flawed, right? Because they they

chose to be subjugated at that time and

and making that choice kept them an

independent nation.

So our our our

government our and it's so dangerous

what we're seeing. Um you can like Trump

or not like Trump. It doesn't

people are going to like presidents and

dislike presidents. But

now it defying the rule of law because

he happens to be the head of the federal

government and openly defying the

federal government. The repercussions of

that are going to be, okay, fine. You

you can't stand this man. You think he's

a terrible president and you're not

going to follow his laws. But that's the

new normal now. So when a president gets

in that you do support, then the other

side because we've established this

precedent, they're just not going to

follow his laws either,

>> right?

>> And now we've eroded the rule of law.

And yeah, and then then what happens?

>> The slippery slope is very dangerous.

>> It's I mean, I was saying that when the

ICE raids were going on cuz I was like,

okay, I am not in favor of illegal

criminals being in this country.

However, we're setting a very alarming

precedent where you have masked

militarized police with no ID that are

running around the cities snatching

people up like this. This could set a

precedent that could be used by the left

if they get into power for something

different than this being than just for

ICE. We've already accepted the idea of

militarized police on our streets and

that people with seven weeks training,

you're just sending them out to snatch

up people and a lot of American citizens

are getting caught up in that trap too

unfortunately and then they have to get

released. Like that that could be bad if

if the next party gets in. So if the

Democrats get in next and they decide

like maybe there's a new vac a new COVID

strain happens, some new pandemic

happens, whatever the [ __ ]

>> and if you don't get the vaccine,

they're going to arrest you and then

they start the same.

>> Yes, we saw it in I think it was

Minnesota or whoever they had the

National Guard on the streets, but they

had people enforcing lockdowns and so

they had people walking down the streets

with [ __ ] guns, yelling at people to

get in your house over a cold

>> like this. these kind of slippery

slopes. You might think, "No, we're just

trying to get rid of the bad

immigrants." I get it. I'm with you. I

agree. However, the way they're doing

it, doing it, and I don't know, I'm not

even saying there's another way or a

better way. I'm just saying you want to

get them out all at once, yeah, that's

the way to do it. You want to get them

out quick, that's the way to do it

because they got them in quick. You're

right. They opened the [ __ ] border.

They helped people get in. But now that

they're in the if you're going to get

them out that way, you're setting a

weird precedent, you're setting a

precedent that could be used in other

ways.

>> Yeah. That's the the the challenge is,

okay,

we're going to we need to enforce the

law, right? Or don't have them, right?

They've they've enacted no new laws.

These are the same immigration laws that

were on the books when Obama was

president and Clinton was president. The

same the same rules. It's the It's the

methodology and and uh yeah, you gotta

you got to sit there and weigh the pros

and cons about okay the pros of trying

to eradicate this issue. You can't give

it a deadline.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. Um

>> it's slippery. It is slippery and and

again it's what's good for the goose is

good for the gander and and these

politicians right now who are doing all

of us a tremendous disservice in

Washington. I feel our elected officials

um because they're they're not thinking

beyond this next election and maybe they

never have.

>> They never have.

>> Right. But they were better at hiding

it. Maybe

>> I think there was no internet

>> but well true.

>> I think that's what it is. There was no

social media.

>> But I think we've reached a point as

they as they as politicians talk about

eliminating the electoral college. They

talk about eliminating the filibuster,

eliminate packing courts, all these

things because their side's not in

power. And so we're just going to take

the structure of the government and

totally rework it to benefit us

temporarily, but then those same

benefits that you have now will be used

against you.

>> They will 100% be used against you. I

think the most important legislation

that we can pass right now is term

limits.

>> I think I think 12 years tops in

Congress and I think probably 12 years

in the Senate. Two six-year terms in the

Senate.

>> That's more than enough time. That's a

lot of [ __ ] time.

>> That's enough. We don't We don't need

any anyone else. I mean, I don't know

how it's become

>> How the [ __ ] is Nancy Pelosi worth $400

million?

>> How the [ __ ] Well, I know how. Yeah.

She gets in on all these [ __ ] IPOs.

>> Exactly.

>> Right. She's going to pass the

legislation that allows Visa to go

public and then she's going to get a big

chunk of it and then when she's

confronted about it, look a reporter

dead in the eye and [ __ ] lie to him.

>> I don't know what you're talking about.

I didn't do that. It's public. We know

you did it. We could look at how much

stock you own.

>> Yeah.

>> [ __ ] liar.

>> They all do it.

>> Yes. They get

>> People are calling out Roana on Twitter

today.

>> [ __ ] rich. Everyone's getting rich.

>> They get paid 175 grand a year and

they're all [ __ ] millionaires.

>> Super millionaires. They're all like

like she's intensely wealthy. That's

that's a that's a almost a half a

billion dollars. That's nuts. As a

public servant, that's nuts.

>> Yeah. It's it's insanity.

>> And it's um you know, that's what we're

used to. We're just we we just we know

it's bad and we just accept it and

people are busy and they have families

and mortgages and [ __ ] to deal with and

so they complain and they keep on

trucking.

>> Yeah. I mean I have as we discussed I

have other jobs. I don't have a pile of

time to dedicate to gets tough for me to

talk politics because I don't have hours

in my day to sift through what's real

and not real on Instagram or social

whatever. I'm not on that [ __ ]

But I can't. It's hard to form an

opinion because man, I don't know and I

don't know where to go to get honest

news. I'm not the news. I know that. I

can't turn on the [ __ ] news cuz they

[ __ ] been lying to us.

They they stopped being I don't know if

they were ever impartial. I But but I

know I know that. Um I remember there

was a guy I was a kid. He was running

for president. His name was Jack Kemp.

>> I remember Jack Kemp.

>> And I want to say it was Dan Rather. It

may not have been. It may have been some

other newscaster. And there's a debate

amongst all these different potential

candidates for president. And

as he's introducing all of these various

politicians, he's saying so and so

Harvard graduate and law professor from

here and this former senator and this

and that and the other and this person

here. And they get to Jack Kemp and he

goes, "Backup quarterback and born again

Christian Jack Kemp." I'm like, "Wow,

you just sunk that dude.

Everyone else you gave what their jobs

were and and talked about their

accomplishments and this. You just said

he didn't start at quarterback and he's

you called that his religion, dude." And

that's the first time I ever remember.

I'm like, "I know your opinion. I'm not

supposed to know your opinion. You're

supposed to be you're supposed to be

giving me news,

>> right? You're supposed to be giving me

honest, unbiased information so I can

make a decision and you're making a

decision for me or trying to.

>> Yeah.

>> And they've gotten so as news became

entertainment. I mean, CNN's the worst

thing that ever happened to news because

it's 24 hours and now all of a sudden

>> there's not 24 hours worth of news all

the time, right? There is during a war,

right? You can show us news, you know,

war footage the whole time and talk

about the war and why war and why no

war, but when there's not, you got to

make some [ __ ] up or push an opinion.

And that's where we've gotten with news

now. Now it's news is piss them off and

scare the [ __ ] out of them.

>> Yeah.

>> That's how we keep them watching.

>> And that's the business model.

>> It is now.

>> And it's also piss them off and scare

the [ __ ] out of them, but ignore certain

things that your sponsors wouldn't like

you to talk about.

>> Oh yeah. This is why you know Tulsi

Gabbard and in her final act as um

director of national intelligence as

she's leaving she had that she gave that

press conference about Fouchy

>> and she talked about how he lied in

front of Congress and that he absolutely

used American tax funds to fund gain of

function research through Ecoalth

Alliance and through the Wuhan lab and

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>> No. And by the way, didn't we all know

that already? Well, we knew it, but my

parents didn't. People that just like

just read the newspapers and watch TV,

they don't know.

>> I I've never seen anything as

flagrantly obvious as as CO coming from

the Wuhan lab studying COVID.

>> Right.

>> Right. I've never And you've got [ __ ]

news anchors keeping a straight face

saying it came from the wet market. Did

you ever see John Stewart's bid on it

that he did on the Cobar show? No. You

never saw it? No. Oh, we we need to play

it. Let's play it because it's so funny

because Colbert tries to like stop him

from doing it and push back and John,

he's a great comic. He just gets up from

his chair and gets louder and just plows

through it

>> over Cobar's like trying to [ __ ] block

his bit. He's like it's like it's a

funny bit and he's getting in the way.

I'd like to see if you have information

on that. I'd like to see it. And he just

keeps going. He keeps plowing away. It's

very funny and it's in the middle of it,

right? He was a This was a courageous

step because he was doing this when

calling it out and saying that it came

from a lab in Wuhan, China was somehow

or another conflated with racism.

Remember that? Like if you said it came

from Wuhan, China from a lab, you're

racist. Like how did you pull that off?

Like how it's like no one's saying

anything. It's racist. It's like it's

from [ __ ] China and it seems like Eco

Health Alliance funded it and it seems

like we funded Eco Health Alliance.

There's a lot of [ __ ] paperwork

>> and and by the way, there's studies on

the [ __ ] disease. Yeah.

>> That they've been doing that are posted

on the CDC website.

>> They're posted on the [ __ ] my

favorite was when you catch all this

[ __ ] about Ivormectin. Yeah. And and

literally when when that happened, I

went I [ __ ] look that up. look up

ivormectin and studies with ivormectin

and a study pops up on the on the CDC

website while people are telling us to

not take that [ __ ]

>> and it and it talks about the efficacy

of ivormectin anti and antiviral

properties specifically co 19. Yeah. So

it's on the government website that the

[ __ ] drug works

>> while they're telling everyone to not

take it

>> and they're mocking me for taking horse

dewormer. Watch this. This is great.

This is great.

>> No, you you stop because he still wants

to put out that establishment position.

I'd like to see any evidence if you've

got any evidence.

>> Yeah. Well, wild times in the news

because I think from then on that sort

of sent a shock wave through the

majority of the population where it just

whatever trust they had in the news just

got

>> severely eroded. Yeah. And if we don't

have good news, if we don't have trust

in the news, then we're kind of a drift.

And then you get locked into [ __ ]

conspiracy theories and eco chambers

online and you can get trapped in them,

too. And that's not good either.

>> Yeah. Then then there's nowhere to go

get information.

>> Has anybody in NBC, CBS, CNN, have any

of those people picked up on that Tulsi

Gabbard speech about

Fouchy and had any sort of a reaction to

it?

I'd like to know that because from what

I was reading online, no, none of them

had. But this was as of yesterday. I

don't know whether or not that's

changed. I don't know if like they were

preparing an article and they wanted to

make sure that they got all their ducks

in a row.

I would think pretty much anytime

the head of an institute

is begging

for a pardon when he hasn't been charged

with any crime is is pretty good

indicator you might want to look and see

if there's been a crime committed.

>> Was he begging for a pardon? I mean, he

got

>> Yeah. Fouchy Fouchy was like he had he

had attorneys this is in part of that

deal. He had attorneys

>> reaching out to Biden's camp the last

day when he got the pardon. Gez, the

very last day.

>> Geez,

>> it's just a preemptive pardon is nuts.

Especially when when Rand Paul's

questioning him and he's talking to him

about specifically about what what

defines gain of function research. And

by all account, by every definition,

it's gain of function research. And

Fouchi is still saying, "You do not know

what you are talking about." With all

due respect,

>> even though Even though he's a doctor.

>> Yeah. Grandpa's a [ __ ] doctor and an

actual doctor. And then they say, "Well,

you're an eye doctor." Well, that's my

specialty. But before I became an eye

doctor, I became a general doctor, which

means I studied all the same [ __ ] that

Fouchy studied. Yeah.

>> You had to go through medical school

before you go pick a specialty. So, four

years of studying the entire body before

you specialize in whatever you're going

to specialize in.

>> Well, it's also then if you read RFK

Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony Fouchy. You

find out he ran this exact same playbook

during the AIDS pandemic.

>> Was the exact same playbook. That's what

the Dallas Buyers Club is about. The

Dallas Buyers Club, that McConnA movie

about AIDS. The [ __ ] villain is

Anthony Fouchy. He's the guy that's

stopping them from getting alternative

medications. That's the guy that wanted

everybody to take ACT. You know why?

Because ACT had already been approved.

They had already used it as a cancer

medication. It was a chemotherapy

medication that they stopped using

because it was too deadly. It was

killing people quicker than cancer was

killing them. So the first medication

they gave people when they had an immune

system that was compromised was a

chemotherapy medication that was killing

people. And they were giving it to

people that were asymptomatic. They were

giving giving it to people that tested

HIV positive. And then you know about

the PCR testing. So, the PTR says,

Carrie Mullis, the guy who invented PCR

testing, said publicly about Fouchy does

not know what the [ __ ] he's talking

about. I don't think he said [ __ ] but

he does not know what he's talking

about. And that it's not supposed to be

used to detect a disease in a person's

body. And that if you ramp up the cycles

long enough, just like they did with

COVID, where we got some by some

estimations 80% false positives because

of the PCR method because they were

ramping them up so high and so they cut

it back quite significantly and that

reduced the amount of false positives

they had. But there's a lot of people

that got tested as HIV positive that

probably weren't and they put those

[ __ ] people on ACT and ACT kills you.

>> Wow.

Yeah, nuts. Most mainstream outlets are

treating it as a serious but unproven

political bombshell. They're reporting

that Gabbard alleges what Gabbard

alleges, stressing the documents are

disputed and under review and

highlighting how polarized the reaction

is.

Mainstream print Jerusalem Post Money

Control Newsweek summarized her

accusations, emphasized that CO's

origins remain unresolved and note that

the claims about Fouchi sparking COVID

or lying under oath are heavily

contested, not yet legally validated.

Many stories frame this as reigniting a

longunning fight over lab leak versus

natural origin. Listen, that fight is

over, kids. That fight's over. this. If

you're saying if you are in the news and

you are saying that there's still a long

running controversy as to whether it's a

lab leak or natural origin, shut your

[ __ ] dirty [ __ ] mouth because it's

not. There's the fight's over. It's a

[ __ ] lab leak. They say the new

documents will need independent scrutiny

from Congress, investigators, and

scientists before any firm conclusions

can be drawn.

Okay.

Right- leaning media highlight her file

dump as vindication for critics, focus

on the coverup narrative, and give

prominent space to Republicans like Ran

Paul. Why does it more centrist or

mainstream outlets present it as a

straighter news tone, often pairing

Gabbards and GOP's quotes with Fouch's

past denials, and nothing? There is so

far no judicial finding, a perjury, or

criminal conduct.

>> What I've never understood is how this

became a left or right issue.

>> So stupid. when when Fouchy, who's a a

career bureaucrat,

>> right, through I mean, when all this

started, there was a Republican

president. Yep.

>> Right. And then he's he's served that

Republican president. He served the

Democratic president before that and

before that and then he served a

Republican. I mean, he's been there for

[ __ ] 50 years.

>> Yeah.

>> It's been there.

>> This dude, it's not political.

>> It It shouldn't be political. There

shouldn't be a right left side of this.

It's, hey, a career bureaucrat [ __ ]

lied to us.

>> He used the exact same language when he

was talking about ACT as a medication

for HIV that he used for the COVID

vaccine. The reason why it's the only

medication is because it is both safe

and effective.

Guy's a monster.

>> Yeah. So lit like he's one of those guys

like throughout history where you're

going to look back over time and you go,

"Holy [ __ ] this one guy's lies, this

one guy's aspirations, this one guy's

career [ __ ] so many people over."

>> Yeah. And I don't and I don't understand

why Democrats would want to fall on that

sword with there's no reason to align

>> because people are stupid and they just

decide that because a Republican's a

president and the anything the

Republicans are pushing has to be bad.

And that that stupid [ __ ] division.

It's so it's so silly. It's so silly. It

really is because the same people during

Trump's presidency were openly saying,

"Are you going to trust a vaccine that's

created under Trump?" They were all

saying it.

>> Kla Harris said it. A bunch of Joy Reid

said they all said it

>> and and then they then they bet their

entire political livelihoods on it.

>> We deserve better. We really do. Or we

don't. Maybe we don't. We [ __ ] think

they're good. I We're so silly. Such a

[ __ ] silly group of human beings we

are.

>> That's [ __ ] wild, man.

>> Not all of us though, you know. I think

less of us now. I think um it's it's

going to be way harder to divide people