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This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Europe

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podcast. Good morning. It's Thursday,

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the 3rd of September. I'm Steven Carroll

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in London. Coming up today, a global

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battle for natural gas supplies

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threatens to leave Europe facing a

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massive winter bill. Robo taxis begin

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picking up passengers across the

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higgledy piggledy streets of London.

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Plus, power to the people. How some

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homeowners are using batteries and AI to

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profit from volatile electricity prices.

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Let's start with a roundup of our top

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stories. Renewed fighting between the

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United States and Iran is raising the

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risk of a global battle for gas supplies

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as Europe struggles to refill storage

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before winter. Bloomberg calculations

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show that at current prices, European

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countries would need to spend more than

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7 billion e to reach even their lowest

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gas storage targets. President Trump

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said the latest US bombing campaign will

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likely be short-lived, but Iran has

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continued to retaliate with fresh

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missile and drone attacks across the

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region today that threatens recovering

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flows through Hormuz as Europe competes

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with Asia for scarce winter gas. Steven

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Stapchinsky is our energy editor in

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Asia. Europe will be able to get through

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its winter with inventories. The issue

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though is that the lower inventories go

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and as they get drained that will only

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increase the price of natural gas in the

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future which means that consumers in

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Europe will have to pay more and that

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just results in in more inflation.

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>> We'll have more from Steven Stapinsky in

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a moment. Analysts say that that could

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force European gas prices up by a third

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to around €100 a megawatt hour. that

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could reignite inflation, raising the

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prospect of further interest rate hikes

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and a painful winter for Europe's

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economy.

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Rising global bond yields are tightening

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the squeeze on Britain's public

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finances. The sell-off has pushed the

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yield on tenure guilt up nine basis

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points to 5.23%.

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Bloomberg Economics estimates that's cut

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the government's fiscal headroom in

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half. At his first prime minister's

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questions, Prime Minister Andy Bernham

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declined to rule out tax rises or

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further borrowing.

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>> We are taking the action needed to get

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debt down. This will be a government

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grounded in fiscal responsibility. It

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will stick to the fiscal rules, but at

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the same time, we will help reduce cost

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of living pressure on our constituents.

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And that's the approach that we will

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take. And that's the one I would suggest

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the party offers it. They should follow

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too.

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>> Paying for Burnham's cost of living

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pledges now falls to the Chancellor John

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Healey. Bloomberg understands that

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Healey will set out his plans to drive

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economic growth in a major speech next

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Monday.

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European officials have vowed more

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support for Ukraine after Germany blamed

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Russia for a drone attack at Leipig

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airport. European Commission President

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Ursula Vanderline says the escalation

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marks a new normal for Europeans.

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This was an attack using militarygrade

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material

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carried out by Russian operatives on

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European Union soil. We will not

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tolerate it. We stand in full solidarity

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with Germany.

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And if the intention was to make us

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think twice about supporting Ukraine, I

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can tell you it has only strengthened my

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resolve.

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Vanderion said the commission is looking

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to cut deeper into Russia's war chest

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and close the loopholes it exploits. Her

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comments were echoed by NATO Secretary

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General Mark Ruta and senior European

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diplomats and foreign ministers. Some

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are pushing for new visa restrictions on

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Russians, while others want to revisit

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using frozen Russian assets to fund

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Ukraine.

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The Dutch Central Bank has shifted

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around 12 billion dollars of gold from

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the US and Canada to London as it

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strengthens its crisis preparedness.

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London now holds almost a third of Dutch

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gold reserves, up from about 18%. The

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bank says bullion hells there can be

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traded or mobilized more quickly through

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the world's most liquid gold market. The

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shift follows growing scrutiny across

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Europe over where national gold reserves

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should be stored.

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Broadcom is predicting a surge in AI

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chip sales over the next two years. The

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bullish outlook is renewing optimism it

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can challenge Nvidia's dominance of the

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market. CEO Hawk Tan says chip revenue

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will double to around $115 billion in

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2027 and double again the following

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year. Here is Bloomberg Intelligence

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senior semiconductor analyst Kungjan

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Sabani. More than that was this is the

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first time ever where they laid out

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clearly their top four XPU customers

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Google open AAI meta and anthropic

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gigawatts that they're going to deploy

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for each 27 and 28 in detail. This is

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something the company has not done in

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the past again speaks to sort of the

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pressure that the company's facing

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around visibility of these concentrated

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programs and the angst that is amongst

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investors about demand continuing in

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2028.

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Savani sounded a note of caution over

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Broadcom's lukewarm fourth quarter

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forecast, but he says investors were

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more impressed by the chipmakers

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longerterm outlook.

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And London's notoriously tricky streets

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are getting a new kind of cab from this

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morning. Uber and British AI startup

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Waver are launching the capital's first

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commercial robo taxi service.

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Bloomberg's TWA Adabio has more.

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Starting today, a fleet of autonomous

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driving cars will be deployed across the

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UK's capital, marking AI startup Waves

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first ever commercial public service.

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Passengers who order a ride through Uber

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may be offered a trip in one of the 15

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Wavepowered robo taxis for the same

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price as a regular journey to anywhere

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in the city except the airport. For now,

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trained safety drivers with Transport

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for London licenses will sit behind the

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wheel and take control if needed as the

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company works to build trust in the

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technology and secure additional

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approvals. But in the future, Wave CEO

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Alex Kendall says he expects its

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partnership with Uber to provide

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thousands of rides per week. In London,

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Tabio, Bloomberg Radio.

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>> And those are your top stories on the

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markets. The MSEI Pacific index is up by

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8/10en of 1% today. oil prices slightly

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lower on the day with Brent crude down

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7/10 to $95 a barrel. So still holding

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on to much of the gains to the past few

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days. The natural gas prices also

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slightly lower but still close to those

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levels that were the highest since 2023.

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Euro stocks 50 futures this morning a

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little lower and we've seen a pause also

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in the global bond selloff. 10ear

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Treasury yields down a basis point at

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4.78%.

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Now, in a moment, more on the high price

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tag Europeans may have to pay for gas

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this winter. Plus, is it time to start

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selling electricity back to the grid?

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We'll hear about the households turned

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energy traders. But another story that

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caught our eye this morning. Does

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splurging on joy give you a guilt

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hangover? That's the question that

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Jessica Carl is asking in the latest

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Bloomberg Opinion newsletter. inspired

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inspired by a series of pieces from her

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team and her own trip to the US Open

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where the viral food seemed like more of

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an attraction than the tennis. The

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context though is a survey from Alli

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Bank revealing that 75% of Americans

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carry some guilt when they splurge on

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joyful things, whether it's US Open

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tickets or a Nintendo Switch or a fancy

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car. At the same time, almost 70% say

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that they say that they spend the right

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amount on joy, an amount that our

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columnist Allison Shrager notes

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continues to rise. When you look at

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credit card spending data, this is of

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course a bigger picture thought when

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we're thinking about people preparing

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for retirement. Are we and not just

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Americans spending too much on our joy

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today, the expense of tomorrow? Now,

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Allison, who is herself or an economist,

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specialize in retirement savings,

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concludes that the amount of guilt you

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should feel about any purchase is

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correlated to your capacity to manage

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risk. if your circumstances change. So,

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it's not about rewarding yourself or

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feeling guilty about it afterwards. It's

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about risk management. That's the way to

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think about it. Some great pieces to

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read. We'll put links to them in our

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podcast show notes this morning. Well,

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let's turn more to bring you more now on

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Europe's winter worries as natural gas

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prices have been rising over the renewed

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tensions in the straight of Hormuz.

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Bloomberg calculations show the

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continent needs more than 7 billion

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euros worth of gas at current prices to

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reach their lowest storage targets.

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Steven Stapinsky, who leads our team

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covering energy in Asia, joins us now

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for more. Stephen, first of all, talk us

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through these numbers. How difficult is

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it going to be for Europe to meet and to

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pay for its energy needs this winter?

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>> Well, it's not difficult to get the gas.

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It's the the difficulty is paying for

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the gas, as you say. Um because right

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now prices are already double uh more

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than double where we were at the

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beginning of the war. and uh Goldman

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Sachs, Ryad, Morning Star, all these

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analysts are saying to hit that 75% full

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target, they would basically have to

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require injection pace not seen this uh

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late in the season since the 2022 energy

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crisis when Russia invad invaded Ukraine

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and upended the gas market, pushing

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winter prices above €100 per megawatt

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hour. To give you some context, we're

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about 30 euros uh before the war began.

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Um, so that would that would cause that

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would that that would be a spike in in

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purchases that would risk further

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inflation in Europe and and potentially

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cause some issues for countries that are

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already grappling or have for years been

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grappling with high energy costs. Um,

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Oxford Economics said that um that could

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mean that inflation tops 6% roughly

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double current levels due in part I mean

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not just gas but in part to to higher

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gas prices. Yeah, indeed. And I mean,

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efforts that were made after the last

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big energy crisis to try and

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uh to boost some of those gas storage

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efforts as well um have are helping

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somewhat, but there's differences

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between countries as our reporting

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points out. Italy's filled its supply

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stoages to about 83%, but Germany's

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remain just over half full. Stephen, a

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lot of people when we think about gas

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and winter are going to be thinking

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about 2022 when we saw prices rise

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significantly after Russia's full scale

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of invasion of Ukraine began. How

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different is the situation on global

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markets now to back then.

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>> So the market is in a a slightly better

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place. Prices are high and and this will

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be potentially painful for households

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and businesses. But, you know, when when

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we're seeing risks of a hundred euro per

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megawatt hour um gas prices, that's not

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what we saw in 2022, which was over €350

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per megawatt hour. Um the situation

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there were sort of two big things that

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happened in in 2022. Not only was it uh

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Russia curbing gas supplies to Europe,

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but the US uh which which was at the

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time the world's biggest LG exporter,

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one of their major LG export plants

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called Freeport actually had an accident

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and couldn't operate, further curtailing

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LG supply in the market. Uh now uh North

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American LG supply has risen

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significantly and that's helped sort of

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um uh uh reduce some of the worst impact

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of the hormood's closure which you know

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uh is a key waterway for about 20% of

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global supply. Um so the situation is

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better but still at these high price

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levels it does cause pain and risk to

11:31

inflation for the region. But how is

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your place though in a global market to

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be able to secure supplies? As you say,

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it's not a question of being able to get

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it, but how much you're willing to pay.

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But this is a global race to try and

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stock up. Yeah. I mean, it's a matter of

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when are you priced out, right? So,

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Europe has because it's a developed

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region, households and businesses are

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willing to pay more to ensure that they

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have electricity and they have heating

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during the winter. Um, and utilities are

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willing to pay usually as well. Um the

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countries that are unable to are those

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in the developing world, most often in

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Asia. So that's uh Pakistan and

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Bangladesh specifically, but also

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potentially even Southeast Asia. Um we

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just saw earlier this week Pakistan

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rejected um uh replacing an LG shipment

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from Qatar that was disrupted by the

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Hormuz uh closure because the price was

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just too high, three times the price of

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pre-war levels. Bangladesh is paying uh

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quite expensive quite to paying for

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quite expensive shipments to ensure that

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it has electricity and that it's um it's

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its fertilizer factories are operating.

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But the question now is it's draining

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their their dollar reserves and how long

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can they continue this. It is it is a

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painful question because right now these

12:46

governments are considering what what do

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they want more? Do they want the um

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electricity flowing or do they want

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affordable electricity bills for their

12:55

for their consumers, for their

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households? Because if if if you're in

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Bangladesh or if you're in Pakistan and

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you have to pass on those very expensive

13:03

LG shipment purchases to just the

13:06

general population, that's going to make

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their power bill so much more expensive.

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That's that's another type of pain. So

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the government has to make those

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difficult decisions whether to have load

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shedding, which is rolling blackouts for

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a few hours, um to help ease some of

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that issue.

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Yeah, I mean look, it's it's a really

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interesting uh story to keep an eye on

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given those massive challenges countries

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are facing globally now. Uh Stephen,

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thank you very much for bringing us more

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details of the situation in global gas

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markets. Steven Chapinsky there leading

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our team covering energy in Asia.

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Stay with us. More from Bloomberg

13:37

Daybreak Europe coming up after this.

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Now more homeowners are making money

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buying power when prices are low,

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storing it, and selling excess energy

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back to the grid when demand spikes.

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It's an opportunity that used to only be

13:56

available to professional traders, but

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volatile prices and cheaper batteries

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have opened up the market. Our climate

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reporter Olivia Rodgar joins us now for

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more on this story. Olivia, how does

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this work?

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>> Well, you need a few bits of uh

14:09

equipment, bits of kit in your home. Um,

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most importantly, you need a battery,

14:12

some form of energy storage so that you

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can buy that power at the cheaper rate

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um and then sell it back when the grid

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really needs it. So, at that more

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expensive rate. A lot of the other a lot

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of people who do this also have some

14:23

form of um their own power generation.

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So, a solar panel which is even better

14:26

because that's free power. Um, and the

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other the other thing that you need is a

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um is a smart meter which actually

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allows you to access those um more

14:34

volatile wholesale linked prices which

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historically is something that consumers

14:39

have not been able to access. So if you

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have all the pieces of kit, what's the

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potential? How much money can you make

14:45

or what's the risk involved?

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>> Yeah. So some of the people we talk to

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are making a lot of money. So you know,

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hundreds of pounds or hundreds of

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dollars a month. Um and you know, don't

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forget as well that a lot of these

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people are also that that is offset

14:56

against say the cost of their electric

14:57

car. So they're not buying petrol

14:58

separately. You know, they're actually

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making money um and not having to buy uh

15:03

buy petrol separately. And that because

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they're using the really cheap

15:06

electricity to power their car. The risk

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is that um you know especially if you're

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kind of going it alone and some of the

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people we talked to they've set up their

15:13

own systems to do this using AI using

15:14

chat bots um if the if the chatbot ers

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as we know that they can um you can end

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up buying power at quite a high price um

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and paying more than you really need to

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um some of the utilities that offer

15:26

these types of services do cap that

15:28

price though at the moment. So Octopus

15:29

Energy their agile tariff which is one

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of the tariffs that allows you to do

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this um you're only ever going to going

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to pay a pound per kilowatt hour. So

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that's quite a lot more than the than

15:38

the consumer um price cap which is about

15:40

a quarter of that at the moment for

15:41

electricity. Um and you know you really

15:43

don't want to be doing that all the

15:44

time. Um but that does offer some

15:46

protection at the upper end.

15:47

>> I was really interested reading your

15:48

piece about the people who are doing

15:50

this. What's motivating them to get

15:53

involved because they're not

15:54

professional traders.

15:56

>> Yeah. I mean making lots of money is a

15:58

great motivation.

15:59

>> Always a classic. Um, and I think on top

16:01

of that, you know, this was really

16:03

interesting listening to the uh the

16:04

segment about uh gas prices and I think

16:06

consumers uh really have a growing sense

16:09

over the last few years not just of high

16:11

prices but of really volatile prices and

16:13

of being exposed to to those prices

16:15

through the gas market and a lot of them

16:17

are going into electrification because

16:19

they you know they think oh it's cheaper

16:20

and then they're realizing that actually

16:22

also offers them this much greater mod

16:24

of control and it means they're not

16:25

exposed to to those really like crisis

16:28

hit volatile um prices on on the market

16:30

as well.

16:31

>> What's the the big picture from all of

16:33

this? I mean, it's very interesting to

16:34

see how people are are making money

16:36

using these pieces of equip equipment

16:37

and AI as you say, but what does it mean

16:39

for energy markets?

16:41

>> I mean, the reason utilities want to get

16:42

involved in this is that it's offering

16:44

them um a greater source of power to,

16:46

you know, renewables um introduce that

16:49

extra element of unpredictability to the

16:51

grid. And what you really want is is

16:53

backup. You want people who are going to

16:54

say when the market's really tight and

16:56

there's not enough power, okay, great.

16:58

I've got some stored in my battery. Here

16:59

it is. So, um, you know, I think the

17:02

idea, the reason they're getting into

17:03

this is that it's allowing them to to

17:05

kind of ride ride over those peaks in

17:07

demand. Um, and, um, and also, you know,

17:09

bring more more um, customers to their

17:11

particular businesses. I think it's been

17:12

really interesting to see the roll out

17:14

of these tariffs in new places. And it's

17:15

it's really become a kind of sales um,

17:17

tactic for for utilities as well.

17:20

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Interactive Summary

This episode of Bloomberg Daybreak Europe covers a range of critical financial and economic updates, starting with the potential for rising natural gas prices in Europe due to geopolitical tensions in the Middle East. It discusses the financial implications for homeowners, the deployment of robo-taxis in London, shifts in gold reserves, and the future outlook for AI-driven chip sales from companies like Broadcom. The podcast also explores how individual households are using AI and home energy storage to profit from volatile electricity markets.

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