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Does the $1495 RTX 5060 G1 Pro Beat Valve's Steam Machine? (The Results Shocked Me)

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So, then guys, just recently, I made a

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video about the Steam Machine and saying

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how much I love Steam OS, but I wasn't

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that impressed by the hardware overall

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because of its pricing and everything.

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And also the fact that, you know, the

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Steam made out that you could do like 4K

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gaming. But, I also did mention in that

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video that, you know, this is kind of

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comparison that's only got 8 GB of RAM.

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That there are other devices out there

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that can have like a 1560, a RTX 560

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made by Nvidia. And it just so happens,

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I actually have another small factor PC

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right here. This here is the Minisforum

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G1 Pro. And this machine is another

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small factor PC. Again, something that

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could go with your TV or by your monitor

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or something like that. And it starts at

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$1,439.

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So, we're talking about just over $400

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more than, you know, the starting one

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that you get for here with the likes of

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the Steam Machine. However, the specs

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are a little bit different. Just take a

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look right here. Just looking at the

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Steam Machine for its cores, you can see

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obviously it's got a six-core CPU.

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Whereas the G1 Pro, well, actually

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that's a 16-core 32-thread. So, straight

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away, yeah, we've got way more cores

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there. We've also got, you know, the

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custom-made RDNA 3 GPU with only got 8

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GB of RAM dedicated. What's actually

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GDDR6 RAM here. Whereas we've actually

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got the RTX 560 here. And this is 8 GB,

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but it's DDR7

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V RAM we've got right here. Now,

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obviously with the Steam Machine, we

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have 16 GB of RAM built in. But, we've

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also got here the G1 Pro with up to 96.

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But, I've actually with the standard

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configuration at that $1,439,

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you actually get 32 GB of RAM. So,

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double that there. You also get the

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likes of dual PCIE slots inside of this.

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You also get Wi-Fi 7, too. Um, you also

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do get Windows 11. But, what we're going

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to do today is actually going to install

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Batocera on this and do some testing

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there. But, I just have a look at the

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Geekbench kind of scoring here. You can

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see the differences there. Having those

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more cores make a massive difference in

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single-core performance. Obviously, the

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likes of the AMD Ryzen 9 chip in here,

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obviously, is a little bit more faster,

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2,813

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compared to 2,034. But, in multi-core

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performance, yeah, because we got 16

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cores here, it is way out in front at

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16,202.

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But, with those specs comparisons out of

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way, let's talk a little bit more about

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the G1 Pro and why I actually decided to

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make a video about this today. Well,

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like I mentioned before, you know, I did

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do a video about the Steam Machine, and

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I did like it, but I just wanted

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something just a bit more power

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performance sort of way out of it, and I

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didn't actually want to run Windows. And

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that's obviously where I discovered

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obviously using Batocera. So, I've used

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Batocera on other machines, and I

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decided to install this on the G1 Pro,

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and it's doing super well. You still get

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that kind of Steam OS kind of feel

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operating system here, very similar to

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what you get with the Steam Deck and the

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Steam Machine. What's absolutely

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brilliant, it boots up, you know, within

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about 10 seconds. There's none of those

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stupid kind of remarks of, "Do you want

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to do this for advertising? Do you want

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to bid into this?" And there's nothing

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eating out the RAM inside the machine,

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either, like what Windows would do

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straight away. It's really easy to use,

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and the great thing is, as well, with

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Batocera, it is open source, so it works

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super well. And the likes of the guys at

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the Batocera team have also kept up with

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the repository on drivers and things

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like this, so it's always up-to-date

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really, really quickly. And the great

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thing is, as well, compared to Steam OS,

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this supports, you know, the likes of

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Nvidia chips now with this. So, this is

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really, really good, especially if

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you've got that 5060 built in, too. So,

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this is really, really useful to

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actually have. For ports-wise, though,

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we've got a good number of ports here on

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the rear. Obviously, we've got that

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dedicated graphics with the display

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ports, HDMI 2.1 port I'd actually even

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say here. And then obviously we've got

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loads of USBs and everything like that,

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ethernet as well. So this is really,

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really great. And the overall design of

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it is kind of like a console kind of

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design. It does remind me a little bit

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of like a PS5 a little bit here. But

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yeah, I do actually really do like this

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kind of approach. It's a different kind

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of approach and yeah, it's really,

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really cool. But the big thing that you

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guys want to know is what about games

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then? How well does this perform in the

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likes of playing games on this? Well,

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with that I decided to test out a load

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of different games. And first of all, I

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decided to play Black Myth Wukong. And

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let's have a look at the results here

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compared to the Steam Machine. So at

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1080p native here, we actually get 68

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frames per second, but we only get 66

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here on the likes of the actual G1 Pro.

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But then at 1440p, things flick around

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here quite unusually. We actually get 46

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frames per second compared to 43. But

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then switching over to 4K upscaling kind

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of performance uh kind of version here

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using FSR or Nvidia's DLSS here, we

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actually got 84 frames here and also 81.

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Remember, this is only just frame

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generation of one times a one extra kind

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of frame we're getting here to make this

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all fair. But obviously the G1 Pro is

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out in front here at 4K. But then after

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this, I decided to play a bit more of an

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older game. And that game was Red Dead

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Redemption 2. And let's have a look at

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the results we got right here. And you

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can see at 1080p that obviously we got

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141

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frames per second. We always got 50%

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more frames here just at native here

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compared to the Steam Machine. And at

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1440p upscale DLS and FSR here, no frame

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generation switched on. Well, obviously

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same thing again, we got 145 compared to

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98. It was very similar there. But then

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after that, I did 4K upscale DLS and FSR

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again. And again, the Minisforum G1 Pro

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got 100 frames per second compared to

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the Steam Machine's 61 frames per

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second. So, straight away on an older,

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more optimized game there, this is

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definitely winning out for $400 more.

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But, does this continue on? Well, the

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next game I decided to play was a newer

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one, and that was a racing game, and

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that's Forza Horizon 6. And with Forza

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Horizon 6 at 1080p, the Minisforum,

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yeah, 125 frames per second native

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compared to 70. 1440p up-scaled DLSS and

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FSR, no frame gen, 132 and 61. And then

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again, 4K up-scaled again, 87 compared

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to 45.

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So, still it's winning here even in a

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new racing game out there. So, this is

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doing super well with that 50-60.

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But, let's try something else. Let's try

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a RTS game. And let's now play Anno 117

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Pax Romana. And obviously, this is a

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very high-demanding game here. And

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obviously, what we've got here is in the

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results is that at 1080p native, we've

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got 76 frames per second, which is super

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impressive compared to the 31 with the

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Steam Machine. And then even, you know,

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at 1440p DLSS and FSR, 80 compared to

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33. And even 4K up-scaled, 53 to 26.

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More than playable on any of those modes

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on this machine. What's absolutely

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fantastic. Again, it is costing us $400

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more, but at the moment, I would say

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this is definitely worth it. But then

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after this, I wanted to try a bit more

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of an older game, and that was

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Borderlands 3. Let's have a look at the

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results we got right here. Again, we can

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see, you know, at 1080p just native

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here, 166 frames per second compared to

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86. This is double what we're getting

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here essentially. And even, you know, at

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1440p up-scaled here on performance

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mode, 173 compared to 106. 4K up scale

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DSLR here, 121 compared to 84. It

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actually, you know, smokes out the

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lights of the Steam Machine. And I think

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that is a big thing to take away here.

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As much as the Steam Machine costs what

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it does, if you were just to pay $400

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more, and I know $400 is a lot of money

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here, but you can see what the

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difference is. It's a massive

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difference. We're talking, you know,

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some cases double the performance than

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what we got the Steam Machine. Or quite

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a lot of the cases, anywhere between say

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30 to 60% performance increase here with

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using, you know, a 560.

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And I think it's just the whole thing

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that DLS has been around longer, it's

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well more optimized with their CUDA

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cores as well. So, this does stupidly

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well with this machine here, too. But,

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personally, what I would say the star of

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the show is definitely going to be

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Bazzar. I wouldn't put Windows on this,

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but, you know, I would say with the

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likes of Bazzar, you can buy a different

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device out there now and get that Steam,

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you know, OS kind of feel and operating

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system here with it using this. And I

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know a lot of guys out there, including

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some of you guys in the comments,

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actually even use Bazzar right now. And

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it just proves that obviously the Steam

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Machine is definitely a great device out

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there. And obviously you get everything

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ready out the box to go, but with just a

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little bit of tinkering, wiping the hard

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drive, putting on Bazzar, you will be

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ready to go here to actually play, you

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know, all your Steam games in the Steam

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library. What is really, really great to

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see. So, on that note then, guys, what

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would you do? Would you still buy out a

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Steam Machine, or would you actually pay

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$400 more and buy out say the G1 Pro we

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have here from Minisforum? Well, let me

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know in the comments below. And also on

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that note, too, if you are interested in

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the G1 Pro here from Minisforum, I've

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got a link down in the description

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below. So, definitely do check that out

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because as you can see here, it does run

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rings around and circle around the Steam

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Machine in most games. So, yeah, it is

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still really, really good. And

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personally, I think it's worth paying

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$400 more for actually getting this over

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the likes of the Steam Machine. But, let

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me know what your thoughts are, too.

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But, on that note as well, guys, it's

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time to wrap up the video. So, if you

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have enjoyed watching it, please do

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guys, I'll see you really soon. Take

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care. Bye-bye.

Interactive Summary

The video compares the Minisforum G1 Pro mini PC to a Steam Machine, highlighting the G1 Pro's superior performance despite its $400 higher price point. The creator tests both devices across various games and concludes that the G1 Pro, especially when running the open-source Batocera OS, offers a significantly better gaming experience.

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