Does the $1495 RTX 5060 G1 Pro Beat Valve's Steam Machine? (The Results Shocked Me)
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So, then guys, just recently, I made a
video about the Steam Machine and saying
how much I love Steam OS, but I wasn't
that impressed by the hardware overall
because of its pricing and everything.
And also the fact that, you know, the
Steam made out that you could do like 4K
gaming. But, I also did mention in that
video that, you know, this is kind of
comparison that's only got 8 GB of RAM.
That there are other devices out there
that can have like a 1560, a RTX 560
made by Nvidia. And it just so happens,
I actually have another small factor PC
right here. This here is the Minisforum
G1 Pro. And this machine is another
small factor PC. Again, something that
could go with your TV or by your monitor
or something like that. And it starts at
$1,439.
So, we're talking about just over $400
more than, you know, the starting one
that you get for here with the likes of
the Steam Machine. However, the specs
are a little bit different. Just take a
look right here. Just looking at the
Steam Machine for its cores, you can see
obviously it's got a six-core CPU.
Whereas the G1 Pro, well, actually
that's a 16-core 32-thread. So, straight
away, yeah, we've got way more cores
there. We've also got, you know, the
custom-made RDNA 3 GPU with only got 8
GB of RAM dedicated. What's actually
GDDR6 RAM here. Whereas we've actually
got the RTX 560 here. And this is 8 GB,
but it's DDR7
V RAM we've got right here. Now,
obviously with the Steam Machine, we
have 16 GB of RAM built in. But, we've
also got here the G1 Pro with up to 96.
But, I've actually with the standard
configuration at that $1,439,
you actually get 32 GB of RAM. So,
double that there. You also get the
likes of dual PCIE slots inside of this.
You also get Wi-Fi 7, too. Um, you also
do get Windows 11. But, what we're going
to do today is actually going to install
Batocera on this and do some testing
there. But, I just have a look at the
Geekbench kind of scoring here. You can
see the differences there. Having those
more cores make a massive difference in
single-core performance. Obviously, the
likes of the AMD Ryzen 9 chip in here,
obviously, is a little bit more faster,
2,813
compared to 2,034. But, in multi-core
performance, yeah, because we got 16
cores here, it is way out in front at
16,202.
But, with those specs comparisons out of
way, let's talk a little bit more about
the G1 Pro and why I actually decided to
make a video about this today. Well,
like I mentioned before, you know, I did
do a video about the Steam Machine, and
I did like it, but I just wanted
something just a bit more power
performance sort of way out of it, and I
didn't actually want to run Windows. And
that's obviously where I discovered
obviously using Batocera. So, I've used
Batocera on other machines, and I
decided to install this on the G1 Pro,
and it's doing super well. You still get
that kind of Steam OS kind of feel
operating system here, very similar to
what you get with the Steam Deck and the
Steam Machine. What's absolutely
brilliant, it boots up, you know, within
about 10 seconds. There's none of those
stupid kind of remarks of, "Do you want
to do this for advertising? Do you want
to bid into this?" And there's nothing
eating out the RAM inside the machine,
either, like what Windows would do
straight away. It's really easy to use,
and the great thing is, as well, with
Batocera, it is open source, so it works
super well. And the likes of the guys at
the Batocera team have also kept up with
the repository on drivers and things
like this, so it's always up-to-date
really, really quickly. And the great
thing is, as well, compared to Steam OS,
this supports, you know, the likes of
Nvidia chips now with this. So, this is
really, really good, especially if
you've got that 5060 built in, too. So,
this is really, really useful to
actually have. For ports-wise, though,
we've got a good number of ports here on
the rear. Obviously, we've got that
dedicated graphics with the display
ports, HDMI 2.1 port I'd actually even
say here. And then obviously we've got
loads of USBs and everything like that,
ethernet as well. So this is really,
really great. And the overall design of
it is kind of like a console kind of
design. It does remind me a little bit
of like a PS5 a little bit here. But
yeah, I do actually really do like this
kind of approach. It's a different kind
of approach and yeah, it's really,
really cool. But the big thing that you
guys want to know is what about games
then? How well does this perform in the
likes of playing games on this? Well,
with that I decided to test out a load
of different games. And first of all, I
decided to play Black Myth Wukong. And
let's have a look at the results here
compared to the Steam Machine. So at
1080p native here, we actually get 68
frames per second, but we only get 66
here on the likes of the actual G1 Pro.
But then at 1440p, things flick around
here quite unusually. We actually get 46
frames per second compared to 43. But
then switching over to 4K upscaling kind
of performance uh kind of version here
using FSR or Nvidia's DLSS here, we
actually got 84 frames here and also 81.
Remember, this is only just frame
generation of one times a one extra kind
of frame we're getting here to make this
all fair. But obviously the G1 Pro is
out in front here at 4K. But then after
this, I decided to play a bit more of an
older game. And that game was Red Dead
Redemption 2. And let's have a look at
the results we got right here. And you
can see at 1080p that obviously we got
141
frames per second. We always got 50%
more frames here just at native here
compared to the Steam Machine. And at
1440p upscale DLS and FSR here, no frame
generation switched on. Well, obviously
same thing again, we got 145 compared to
98. It was very similar there. But then
after that, I did 4K upscale DLS and FSR
again. And again, the Minisforum G1 Pro
got 100 frames per second compared to
the Steam Machine's 61 frames per
second. So, straight away on an older,
more optimized game there, this is
definitely winning out for $400 more.
But, does this continue on? Well, the
next game I decided to play was a newer
one, and that was a racing game, and
that's Forza Horizon 6. And with Forza
Horizon 6 at 1080p, the Minisforum,
yeah, 125 frames per second native
compared to 70. 1440p up-scaled DLSS and
FSR, no frame gen, 132 and 61. And then
again, 4K up-scaled again, 87 compared
to 45.
So, still it's winning here even in a
new racing game out there. So, this is
doing super well with that 50-60.
But, let's try something else. Let's try
a RTS game. And let's now play Anno 117
Pax Romana. And obviously, this is a
very high-demanding game here. And
obviously, what we've got here is in the
results is that at 1080p native, we've
got 76 frames per second, which is super
impressive compared to the 31 with the
Steam Machine. And then even, you know,
at 1440p DLSS and FSR, 80 compared to
33. And even 4K up-scaled, 53 to 26.
More than playable on any of those modes
on this machine. What's absolutely
fantastic. Again, it is costing us $400
more, but at the moment, I would say
this is definitely worth it. But then
after this, I wanted to try a bit more
of an older game, and that was
Borderlands 3. Let's have a look at the
results we got right here. Again, we can
see, you know, at 1080p just native
here, 166 frames per second compared to
86. This is double what we're getting
here essentially. And even, you know, at
1440p up-scaled here on performance
mode, 173 compared to 106. 4K up scale
DSLR here, 121 compared to 84. It
actually, you know, smokes out the
lights of the Steam Machine. And I think
that is a big thing to take away here.
As much as the Steam Machine costs what
it does, if you were just to pay $400
more, and I know $400 is a lot of money
here, but you can see what the
difference is. It's a massive
difference. We're talking, you know,
some cases double the performance than
what we got the Steam Machine. Or quite
a lot of the cases, anywhere between say
30 to 60% performance increase here with
using, you know, a 560.
And I think it's just the whole thing
that DLS has been around longer, it's
well more optimized with their CUDA
cores as well. So, this does stupidly
well with this machine here, too. But,
personally, what I would say the star of
the show is definitely going to be
Bazzar. I wouldn't put Windows on this,
but, you know, I would say with the
likes of Bazzar, you can buy a different
device out there now and get that Steam,
you know, OS kind of feel and operating
system here with it using this. And I
know a lot of guys out there, including
some of you guys in the comments,
actually even use Bazzar right now. And
it just proves that obviously the Steam
Machine is definitely a great device out
there. And obviously you get everything
ready out the box to go, but with just a
little bit of tinkering, wiping the hard
drive, putting on Bazzar, you will be
ready to go here to actually play, you
know, all your Steam games in the Steam
library. What is really, really great to
see. So, on that note then, guys, what
would you do? Would you still buy out a
Steam Machine, or would you actually pay
$400 more and buy out say the G1 Pro we
have here from Minisforum? Well, let me
know in the comments below. And also on
that note, too, if you are interested in
the G1 Pro here from Minisforum, I've
got a link down in the description
below. So, definitely do check that out
because as you can see here, it does run
rings around and circle around the Steam
Machine in most games. So, yeah, it is
still really, really good. And
personally, I think it's worth paying
$400 more for actually getting this over
the likes of the Steam Machine. But, let
me know what your thoughts are, too.
But, on that note as well, guys, it's
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The video compares the Minisforum G1 Pro mini PC to a Steam Machine, highlighting the G1 Pro's superior performance despite its $400 higher price point. The creator tests both devices across various games and concludes that the G1 Pro, especially when running the open-source Batocera OS, offers a significantly better gaming experience.
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