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Are US Stocks too Expensive? Bubble?

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Okay. So, hello everyone. And first, let

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me just say I'm really sorry that this

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save for this coming weekend. Very often

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hear people comment that I'm staying out

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of the US market or I'm selling my US

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stocks because it's just too expensive.

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It's it's a bubble. And who can blame

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them? Because that is what the media

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tends to push as a narrative very often,

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especially recently. Again, if you look

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at some of the headlines, it's a super

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bubble in the US. Stocks about to pop.

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Economists who called the 08 recession

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warns stocks in a mega bubble. Do

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profit. Albert Edwards who predicted the

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2000 crash wars another bubble is going

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to burst. Huge growth stock bubble could

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sink the S&P 500 by 40% says Bank of

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America. Interesting thing is that I've

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been in the markets now for over 25

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years and they've been saying this same

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for the last 25 years. Every year

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they tell you the market's in a bubble.

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What's new? Okay. And I'm just going to

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give you a couple of examples. If I show

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you every single year, it's going to

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take a few hours just for this video,

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but just a few examples. So this is the

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S&P 500 US market for the last 16 years

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or so, right? Since 2008, 2009. And you

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can see for example back in 2010 there's

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a big article by the New York Times that

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says that uh the market forecast that

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says take cover markets are in a huge

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bubble. Robert Preacher the market

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forecaster said that we are entering a

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market decline of the biggest in the

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last 300 years. So this was in 2010.

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This was like 15 years ago. There's a

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bubble. It's going to biggest biggest

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crash in 300 years. Right? And then in

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2014,

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uh, Goldman Sachs at the time said the

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last time stocks were this expensive was

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the tech bubble. They warned. So again,

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they say it's a bubble over here. And

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then back in 2017, Harry Dent said once

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in a lifetime crash is coming in the

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next 3 years. Did it come? Not not

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really. Right. And then uh over here um

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July 2020 as the market was recovering

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the financial times said the coming

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earning season could bring lofty stocks

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down to earth. So again they say that

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stocks are too expensive is a bubble.

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And then over here we have got our good

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friend Robert Kiyosaki. Uh by the way I

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you know not all Asians are the same.

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Let me just warn you that. Right. Uh do

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you have a plan B? We are in the biggest

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bubble in world history. This was back

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in March 2022. And then uh over here

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in April 2023, we've got Harry Dent

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again, the same guy that said that he

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had a once in a-lifetime crash back in

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2017. Now he says, I expect another

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crash in our lifetime between now and

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June in 2023.

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So my question is, how many lifetimes

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does this guy have? I mean, is he a

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freaking cat? Right? Does he have like

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nine lifetimes? I don't know, right? And

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then again recently in 2024 we have got

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Kyosaki again says the everything bubble

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stocks bonds are all going to crash.

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We're going to die. Right? So every year

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they tell you that stocks are too

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expensive too. I've heard the same story

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for 25 years. As you guys know I don't

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make my decision based on narratives and

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news headlines. I make my decisions

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based on numbers. I'm a numbers guy. I

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like to look at numbers right? And if

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the numbers tell me the market is

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expensive, sure I'm going to get out

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right now. I'm going to sell. Right? But

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if the the numbers tell me that the

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market is not expensive, I want to keep

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buying. So it it's all about the

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numbers. So why do some people say that

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the market's too expensive? Well, it

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depends on what metrics you look at.

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Now, some people they love to quote this

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thing called the Buffett indicator. And

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they said that the Buffett indicator

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shows that a market is too expensive.

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Now what is this Buffett indicator? Many

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years ago, like 30 years, 40 years ago,

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Warren Buffett said that he looks at the

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market cap of the S&P 500, which

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basically means the the market value of

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the 500 stocks in the S&P, and you

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divide that by the US GDP. And he said

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that this should be below 100%. If it

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goes above 100%, then it's going to be

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very expensive. And recently, this

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indicator has hit over 200%. And there

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are a lot of news headlines that say,

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"Oh, the Buffett indicator says that

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it's a super bubble, right? And it hit

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205% signaling extreme market

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overvaluation. Is this a reliable

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indicator?" Well, if you do your

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research, the answer is no. In fact,

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very recently, someone asked Buffett

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about this indicator and he said, "Well,

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I don't use it anymore. It used to work.

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It doesn't work anymore." Why? Very

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simple. 30, 40 years ago, this indicator

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worked because the majority of the

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profits that came from the S&P 500 were

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from the US market. But as you know,

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increasingly many of the S&P 500

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companies are multinational companies.

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So a bigger proportion of their profits,

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in fact, some companies, 25 or even 50%

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of their profits are not from the US

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market. They are from all around the

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world. and all these profits that they

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make from all around the world is not

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captured within the US GDP. You get the

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point? So now the S&P 500 the market

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value has gone up because it makes a lot

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of profits like Nvidia and Microsoft and

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and Apple but a lot of their profits are

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not from the US economy. They're from

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outside the US economy. So this is

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increasing but it's not reflected in the

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US GDP. Hence the indicator looks very

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high but in actual fact many of these

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companies are not expensive. Another

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reason why some people say that US

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stocks are expensive is because they're

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looking at the PE ratio of the entire

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market. The price toearnings ratio more

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specifically specifically let's take a

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look at the price divide by the forward

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earnings ratio which is the share price

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today divided by the projected earnings

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of the companies over the next 12

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months. So you can see that right now

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the forward PE ratio of the S&P 500 is

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22 times earnings. So is that high or is

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that low? One way to judge is to compare

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it with where it was historically. So if

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you take a look at the last uh 10 years,

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the average forward price to earnings

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ratio of the S&P 500 was 18.4 times over

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the last 10 year average. And the last

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5year average was 19.9 times. So

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currently is it above it? Yes, it is

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above the 5-year and 10 year average.

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So, does this show that stocks are

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expensive? Yes, if you look at this

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metric alone. However, I've mentioned

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many times that PE ratio by itself is

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very misleading. Why? Because it does

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not take into account the growth of the

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earnings, right? Does not take into

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account the growth of the earnings. So

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one thing to understand is that the

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companies today their earnings are

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growing much faster than they were 5 10

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20 years ago and the profit margins of

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the companies are three times more today

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than they were 20 years ago. So you

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can't compare today's PE ratio with the

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historical PE ratio because companies

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are growing faster with higher profit

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margins. So a more fair comparison is to

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use what we call the uh pack ratio. So

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what is pack ratio? PE ratio is the PE

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ratio

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of the market or you can use a stock if

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you want divided by the earnings growth

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rate. Okay. So remember that a stock

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with a high PE ratio can be cheap if the

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earnings are growing double digit. That

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is actually very cheap. Like Nvidia used

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to have a very high PE ratio, but

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because the earnings are growing very

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much, Nvidia was actually very cheap.

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That's why I bought Nvidia at $15 in

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2022 when the PE ratio was 60 times

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earnings. People thought it was

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expensive. It was actually very cheap.

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And from $15 a share, Nvidia is now

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what? $50 $160 per share. All right.

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But a stock with a low PE ratio like

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Intel looks like a low PE could actually

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be expensive because the earnings are

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not growing. The earnings are declining.

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Okay. So you have to always judge the PE

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ratio in relation to the earnings

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growth. And one way to do it is to look

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at what we call the PE ratio.

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So basically the higher the PE ratio the

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more expensive. The lower the pack ratio

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the cheaper. So what's the pack ratio of

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the market today? If you take the PE

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ratio divide by the growth of the

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earnings of the companies, well, you get

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about 1.4 something roughly about almost

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1.5. So, is this high or low? Well,

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again, if you compare it to the recent

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history, it is not low, but it's not

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very high as well. In fact, you can see

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the pack ratio of the S&P 500 was at 2.0

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uh back in 2023

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or so, right? It was at over 2.4

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uh back in 2020. It was

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1.7 in 2016. And you can see over here

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in 2010, in 2004,

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in in the '90s, it was higher than where

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it is today. So if you actually take the

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pack ratio which is a better valuation

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measure, the market is cheaper today

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than it has been many times in the last

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uh 30 years. I can tell you that if you

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really want to know whether stocks are

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cheap or expensive, forget looking at

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the PE ratio, forget the Buffett

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indicator, forget the PE ratio because

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all these are just too general and they

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just too vague. So let me give you an

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example. If you just take a look at the

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GDP per capita of the US, you may

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conclude that oh all Americans are rich

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or if you look at the GDP ratio of

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Singapore, you may say, "Hey, all

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Singaporeans are rich." Is that true? Of

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course not. Right? It depends on in the

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US which city certain cities are richer

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than others. Depends on the household.

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So to really get a picture of whether uh

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stocks are cheap or expensive, you have

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to look at the individual companies and

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do a valuation of the individual

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companies using a discounted free cash

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flow valuation model or price to book

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ratio or price to uh or discounted net

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income uh valuation method. So that's

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what we do at Puranum Profits. We drill

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down to the individual companies. We do

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a bottom-up approach to find out yes in

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the market which are the expensive

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stocks which are the cheap stocks are

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and are there more expensive more cheap

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and how do we focus on the ones that are

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fairly priced or underv the high quality

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stocks. Okay. So we have just uh used

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stock oracle to run through all the 500

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stocks in the S&P 500 and what we found

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is that out of the 500 stocks yes there

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are some that are very expensive. In

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fact, out of the 500 companies,

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155 companies are more than 20%

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overvalued. So that makes up about 31%

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of the stocks are very expensive. So

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obviously you don't want to buy these

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stocks. Well, not yet until they come

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down, right? And about 12.4%

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or 62 stocks are overvalued by more than

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10% to 20%. But again in the market you

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do have stocks that are fairly priced,

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not too expensive, not too cheap, fairly

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priced within plus - 10% of their

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intrinsic value. And this would be 161

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stocks in the S&P 500. And lo and

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behold, there are stocks that are still

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cheap. In fact, you can see that about

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10.4% of stocks in the in the S&P are

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undervalued between 10 to 20% below the

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intrinsic value. And 14% of stocks are

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very undervalued by more than 20%. So

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you never make a sweeping statement that

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all stocks are expensive in the US. No,

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you've got cheap, you got expensive,

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right? The key is how do you focus on

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the ones that are cheap and not too

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expensive and add the high quality ones

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and avoid the expensive ones. What are

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some of these specific stocks that are

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good quality companies that are fairly

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priced or underpriced? Well, if you want

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to find out what you have to do, that's

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right. You have to join me at Retail

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just, you know, give you some ideas.

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Okay, so again, I'm going to show you

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this entire list during Retail

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Rebellion. But for now, I'm going to,

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you know, tease you a bit with some

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stock. So you can see for example KLA

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Corporation which is really expensive

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right now. You've got Walmart that is

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pretty expensive as well. You've got

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Broadcom a great company that is

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expensive as well. American Express also

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very expensive. So these are highly

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overpriced. Uh then you got stocks that

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are you know overvalued between 10 to

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20%. Uh for example you've got stocks

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like um CBOE which is the options

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exchange. You have got stocks like uh

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let's see Synopsis and a couple of

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others over here. And then stocks that

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are fairly valued between plus minus 10%

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stocks like AMD, you've got Amazon, you

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got Arista Networks, you have got

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Electronic Arts, you have got Coca-Cola,

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you got Lowe's and a couple of others.

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And stocks which are undervalued like

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PayPal, like Fizer, like Pepsi, like

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pool corporation, like Troll Price and

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you know Salesforce also undervalued

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between 10 and 20%. And there stocks

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that are very cheap right now like

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Lululemon and you've got CarMax, you've

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got um uh Craft Hinds and you've got BDX

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as well. Now again bear in mind I keep

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saying that just because a stock is

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cheap doesn't mean that it's a good

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investment. It has to be a high quality

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stock that is undervalued. All right? So

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you have to look at the quality as well.

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And uh that's why I'm going to show you

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in my webinar during retail rebellion.

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What is my checklist of how I identify

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the highest quality companies? The

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companies that have got consistent

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growth in revenue, profits, free cash

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flow, companies that have got strong

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economic modes, companies that I know

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may drop temporarily, but they will

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always bounce back higher. We call this

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the tennis ball stocks. But some stocks

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I call the the egg stocks, right? They

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drop, they don't bounce back. Some of

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them may even crack if they drop too

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hard. So, look forward to seeing you

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Interactive Summary

The video discusses the persistent narrative that the US stock market is in a bubble and overvalued, a claim the speaker has heard repeatedly over the last 25 years. The speaker argues that relying on broad metrics like the 'Buffett Indicator' or traditional Price-to-Earnings (PE) ratios is misleading, as they fail to account for modern factors like international earnings and company growth rates. Instead, the speaker advocates for a bottom-up, fundamental analysis of individual stocks to identify high-quality companies that are fairly priced or undervalued, rather than making sweeping statements about the entire market.

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