Joe Rogan Experience #2458 - Matt McCusker
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>> A lot of people have lights on their
tables now to light up their face to
make them look more pretty. Really?
>> Yeah. They have like a slight like a
like a opening in the table and then a
light that gets on you so you don't see
like the shadows in your face so you
don't look look shitty.
>> I feel like doesn't isn't that what you
do? like a scary story. You put a
flashlight under your chin.
>> Yeah, but they're not trying to do that.
They're trying to like balance it out so
you look flat.
>> That's crazy.
>> You look like what you look like.
>> Yeah. You got to give up after a while.
>> The weirdest [ __ ] is men who use filters
when they take pictures.
>> That's insane.
>> I There's comedian men that use filters.
Yes. It's very odd.
>> How do you know? How do you tell?
>> You know what they really look like?
>> Yeah, it does.
>> And then you see them and they look like
a cartoon. Like uh Netflix does that
with their um the pictures that they use
when they promote your special like the
picture of you. They'll put that [ __ ]
through a filter.
>> And that makes sense.
>> You look so pretty.
>> If people see you after the show, you're
like, "You look horrible. I didn't know
you looked so bad.
>> You look so old."
>> Thanks, man.
>> I am so old.
>> Yeah. I'm almost 60.
>> Dang.
>> I know. It's crazy. I'm 58.
>> I'm 40. Just turned 40.
>> That's Those are real numbers.
>> Yeah, I know. I I aged as soon as I had
kids, I aged like immediately. You would
have thought I literally gave birth.
>> Yeah. Well, it's this lack of sleep.
>> Yeah. That's what got me.
>> Yeah. You know what's really good for
that? Creatine.
>> I I've been taking it.
>> Yeah. Creatine. They say 20 grams a day.
Start like with five and work your way
up to 20 and check to see how your
butthole holds up because the seal might
be loose.
>> I' I've ran this experiment. Actually,
>> 20 gets my guts going, man.
>> Bro, it does. It does. I don't do 20 in
a dose. I do 10 in the morning and 10 at
night.
>> Cuz I was doing 20 in a dose and it was
just like everybody out of the pool.
>> I'm also not convinced diarrhea is bad
for you. I swear to God. Like not
[ __ ] for sure, but diarrhea is just
like let's speed this up.
>> Well, isn't that what um is that
consumption? What is the disease where
you can't stop having diarrhea?
>> Dysentery.
>> Dysentery. That's it.
>> Yeah.
>> [ __ ] All right. Well, if you can't stop
having it, sure. But like
>> Well, that's like you can't digest food.
It just goes right through you and just
[ __ ] constantly.
>> Now you [ __ ] starve.
>> Yeah,
>> that sucks actually.
>> Yeah, not good.
>> Once a week though. That's fine.
>> You know what I used to do? I used to
drink kale smoothies in the morning.
That was the first thing that I would
do. I would throw kale and garlic and
like apples and [ __ ] in a blender and
that's what I would drink first thing in
the morning.
>> Yeah.
>> And boy, that is just like that clears
the pathway. That's like uh like you
know when you uh clear your rain gutters
of leaves.
You get a hose on that [ __ ] and just
[ __ ] blow him off the top. That's
what it's like.
>> Yeah, I've done the green drink before.
It does get you I I was vegan for like a
month and that was like the biggest
dumps. But I actually got hemorrhoids
from being vegan.
>> Oh, because on the toilet.
>> It was just that the turds were so big.
I was getting like blown out.
>> I got hemorrhoids from being vegan.
>> Was it taking too long to poop or you
just like it was just spectacular?
>> Massive, bro. Yeah, it was spectacular.
There were massive bull winders every It
was like twice a day. I was like I was
like an adult entertainer, dude. I was
like my body just gave out. Adult
entertainer.
>> Well, when you think about it, it's all
that fiber that your body doesn't
process. But they say that that's what's
good for keeping you clean. You know,
fiber pushes everything out.
>> I'm I'm back on the fiber train now. I
was all about protein. Now I'm like,
"Yeah, I need I need my fiber now." But
it's it's hard to know who's right
because the carnivore people are like,
"You don't need fiber. There's no need
for fiber." But then there's like
there's evidence that fiber is good for
you.
>> Yeah. Isn't that what your whole
microbiome needs to like make the germs
or whatever that are good for your
brain? I don't know. I I I get confused
as well. But
>> my balance is I eat a lot of kimchi. I
really like kimchi.
>> That's a move.
>> I eat that stuff all the time. Kimchi
and I eat sauerkraut. That stuff's
legit.
>> Yeah. I know that stuff's supposed to be
good for you, but yeah. I I tried the
carnivore and it was like I first five
days I felt cool and then like after I
think I made it to 17 days I was like
dude if I had just ate some vegetables
with this I'd be the healthiest guy in
the world
>> cuz it was just like I stopped pooping
like I was like this can't be good for
me.
>> Well you don't poop much because there's
no fiber. So when you do poop it's just
>> yeah I remember I remember this whole
rabbit pellets and you're like where's
the rest? But I mean isn't that a good
thing? doesn't mean your body absorbed
all of the food instead of like having
all this undigestible stuff go through
your digestive tract. This is the
argument that the carnivore people I
don't want anybody that's a nutritionist
right now pulling their hair out
>> disinformation.
I'm just asking.
>> It's a good it's a solid question cuz
it's like yeah does food does meat get
stuck in your body and you need plants
to push it out of your butt or will meat
come out of your butt just like plants
will? Well, that was the thing that they
would always say that every man when he
dies has a pound of undigested meat in
his stomach. Apparently, that's not
true.
>> Yeah, that was the old thing about John
Wayne. Like John Wayne had 50 pounds of
beef jerky in his butthole. I I like
thought about that since I was a little
boy. I've been wondering like how much
are they going to find in me?
>> Yeah, that that's true.
>> So, it's not the case.
>> No, John Wayne just had a gut from
probably beer.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, beer and pasta and bread.
>> True.
>> And you know, normal American food.
Also, he was I mean, when was what was
his heyday? Like 50s60s or 60s, I guess.
60s7s maybe.
>> When did he do that Genghaskhan movie?
That's what killed him?
What year was that?
>> 50s, I think.
>> Yeah, cuz it's like those dudes weren't
on like
>> True Grit those days. Yeah,
>> dude. They weren't being like, "Oh, how
much fiber have I had today?"
>> No. No.
>> Yeah. They were That was even in like
the 90s. You The dude didn't think about
what they're eating.
>> 56.
>> 56. Wow. This is one of the worst movies
of all time. You ever see it?
>> No. This Gangask Khan movie.
>> How did it kill him?
>> Oh, he filmed it in the same area where
Nevada was doing their nuclear tests.
>> Oh,
>> everybody got cancer.
>> Damn.
>> Like the whole crew, like a giant number
of people got cancer.
>> Yeah. And that I'm telling you that was
back when guys would be like nuclear
bomb. I don't care about like they
didn't care. Like I used to work with
guys that do asbestous back in like the
90s when I was little. Me like my dad,
my uncle's all construction. And so we
were like taking this barn down and I
was like a little boy just like
hammering nails into an A-frame and uh
they shut it down cuz there was a
speestous in there and there's this guy
who was like, "Dude, your uncle's a
[ __ ] I'd eat that [ __ ] for breakfast.
I don't care about asbestos." And it's
like
>> I don't know. Like now I grew up I'm
like damn, thank god they shut that
down. But
>> Well, there was so many things that
caused cancer that no one knew about at
the time. Yeah.
>> Like how about baby powder?
>> Yeah, dude. I didn't know about that
either. Well, the thing is what I think
what the story is is that where they
mine the talc that the talc is not
always pure and the talc has other stuff
mixed in it and they don't filter that
stuff out. Is it asbestous that it's
mixed with?
>> I thought that stuff was cornstarch.
>> I'm not into perplexity, please.
>> I thought it was cornstarch.
>> What is that? Baby powder? No.
>> So, it's talc, I believe. evidence of
small but real cancer risk with some
talc based baby powders mainly due to
genital use and possible asbestous
contamination. Yeah, that's it. But the
data are mixed and the absolute risk for
any one person is low. Talc uh itself as
a mineral can be mined near as best. So
contamination is the main worry. Asbess
is a known cause of messoththeloma
methyloma and other cancers. Yeah, quite
a few women. I think there was a
lawsuit.
>> I remember hearing that. I remember I
was dismayed cuz that was like I had a
weird thing when I was younger. I used
to use baby powder to masturbate.
>> Yo,
>> cuz it just like makes everything feel
so it was kind of nice. And the smell if
I smell baby powder to this day, it's
like a trigger for Yeah. If I smell it,
I'm like, "God damn, bro. Get that [ __ ]
away from me."
>> Well, I used to use it a lot to play
pool.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Yeah. Everybody use baby powder. You use
baby powder on your fingers. It makes
the shaft slide through your fingers.
But then they invented gloves
>> and so that keeps the table clean. Yeah,
>> this is like they're I guess they're I
don't know what they're made out of.
It's like a nylon like a very thin nylon
and slick. So
>> yeah, but baby powder, no bueno. What
else?
>> They're saying LED lights now.
>> That's what I keep hearing.
>> LED. They're saying like it kills your
mitochondri.
>> I think they like crush your
mitochondria.
>> Oh jeez. I don't know if I just get
scared by AI clips on Instagram.
>> I'm scared of everything. I have to
[ __ ] stay offline. I I the I'm
reading too much of the news and it's
it's overwhelming me. Like sometimes at
night time like I can't wind down.
>> Yeah.
>> This is like there's too much news. Too
much [ __ ] madness. We're about to go
to war with Iran. Like we're the
everyone's eating beef jerky and pizza.
Like what are these file? What the [ __ ]
is pizza?
>> You know who how far does this go? How
come this never got released before?
Like what is happening? I mean, my thing
is like I'm not First of all, the news
for me is like, aside from all like the
disastrous wars, it's just so like
negative. When you read the news is
mostly people being like, "Guess who's a
giant piece of [ __ ] right?
>> You read that over and over and you get
like addicted to being like, yeah, that
guy sucks. I'm good."
>> Well, there was an article that I read
recently about people being addicted to
outrage
>> and then it's a real thing.
>> Oh, for sure.
>> Being addicted to being upset about
stuff and addicted to outrage. You go
search for it, which is why your
algorithm shows you all that [ __ ]
>> Yeah. No, I mean they I I don't know if
this is true, but I feel like they watch
your facial uh expression through your
phone camera and feed you stuff if
you're making like interested or
outraged or whatever.
>> I wouldn't be shocked.
>> I've heard they like track your eyeball
movement and they're like, "Okay, this
is holding his eyes." And they just keep
feeding you. I I've heard that.
>> Probably put a piece of tape over that
[ __ ]
>> I know. I know.
>> You know, I wonder if you did how much
would change.
>> That would be an interesting experiment.
>> Well, they got you mic too, so they got
your audio.
>> That's true. But yeah, the new dude that
that Yeah, all that Epstein [ __ ] is like
I can't follow it. It's too much.
There's too many names. I don't know
state representative. They're like
naming all these people. It's like damn,
I wish I knew who that was.
>> And it's dark, too. It's horrible.
>> And it goes so high. There's so many
levels to it.
>> You know, Sager and Yetti was just on
flagrant and they were reading off files
and talking about the It's just like
what the [ __ ] man. Yeah. It's you need
to study all day to like follow it.
Prince Andrew is crazy. Him getting
arrested. He's the f who what other
prince has gotten? It must have been
like not since 500 years ago.
>> Yeah. When was the last time a prince
was arrested?
>> I have no idea. And also he's if he goes
to jail, if he goes to real jail, he's
getting clapped.
>> Yeah.
>> He's a known, you know, it's very very
likely he was a pedophile. If pedophiles
go to jail,
>> well, what do they know that they're
putting him in jail first or they're
arresting him first? Like, what do they
know? Because they did a bunch of
things, right? The first thing they do
is they they stripped him of his
princehood, right? Exactly.
>> And then they banished him to some
estate somewhere on the country and then
they removed him from the estate. They
kicked him out of the estate.
>> Yeah.
>> So it's been like levels upon levels.
>> So what do they know? I think the royal
family gets to see the real deal. So
they probably saw the real deal and were
like, "Bro, you're fried. You're going
to jail." And he he'll he might be the
first he might get like clapped in jail.
>> Jesus.
>> Someone might get royal
>> royal [ __ ]
>> Yeah. He might get royal [ __ ] bussy
in jail. You think they'll Don't you
think they have him in Do they have
protective? He'll be He'll be in
protective custody for sure. Leave that
over there.
>> They'll probably make a jail for him. I
would imagine they do. I think anything
we have here, I would imagine they have
protective custody
>> cuz if you're even if people even think
you're a pedophile in jail, they're
going to
>> Do you think that starts like a whole
cascade and then a bunch of other people
start getting arrested?
>> No, I think they're going to hang him up
and be like, "We got him."
>> Oo.
>> I I don't believe that all these
billionaires are going to let themselves
get arrested. They have billions of
dollars. Paris prosecutors opened two
new Epstein linked investigations. Uh
oh. To with who?
>> There was I think it's the Jean Luke
guy.
>> A co-conspirator.
>> Uh he was also died at it. He died in
custody in
>> Wow. Godamn. Not again.
>> So they reopened investigation on that.
And somebody else I think that they just
found out that was high up in uh
I lost it here.
>> How did he die in jail? I don't I
officially
>> Yeah.
>> Um
there you go.
>> Doesn't he was found dead?
>> Okay. So,
>> just found dead.
>> Oh, he died. How old was he?
>> Um
at the time.
>> Yeah. And also the uh
>> 76.
>> Oh, that's that's about the time dudes
like that die.
>> Yeah. Um, but they didn't never there's
a probe and I think they they've
reopened the probe also
>> of how he died.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah.
>> That's going to be a tough one to solve.
>> Yeah. You're going to have hit some
roadblocks.
I wouldn't be surprised if somebody
whacked him. We were just talking about
the guy that Epste was in jail with,
which is crazy. Like if Epstein is
alive, some people think he's alive.
Some people think they they scooted him
out of his cell, switched a body double,
killed that guy. But if he Why would
they put him in jail with that gigantic
cop who was a contract killer? That
[ __ ] guy. That's one picture. Show me
the picture of the tank top picture.
That's the one.
>> Whoa.
>> Bro, look at the size of that guy.
>> Big.
>> And this guy was a he was a cop who was
a dirty cop who was killing drug
dealers.
>> Yeah. I mean, maybe that was the plan.
Be like, "All right, we'll put him in
here. It'll sound good if this guy kills
him." Like, "Oh, man." And then 18 days
before he died, he complained that his
cellmate tried to kill him.
>> What?
>> Yeah. See if we can find out.
>> The mur the the different guy. No,
Epstein did.
>> No, I'm saying Was he complaining about
the murderous cop or is this a different
guy?
>> That's crazy, dude.
>> That's crazy.
>> Also, how did he try to kill him and not
kill him?
>> That's what I was just going to say.
>> What the [ __ ] are you talking about?
Epstepped away and just like sat in the
corner. I mean, maybe he screamed loud
enough and the guards came. The night
Jeffrey Epste claimed his cellmate tried
to kill him.
>> So, he laid in a fetal position on the
floor of his jail cell, unresponsive
with an orange fabric. Oh, this is when
they found him. Uh, 18 days before
Epstein's death. He wasn't breathing.
His eyes were opening. Oh, so this was
when they found him. Oh, they So, they
did find they found him in the fetal
position. Oh, no. This with the Orange
Havoc news. That's when they found him
dead. Okay. 18 days before EP. No. Okay.
So, it is saying that.
>> So, it's saying that he had an orange
noose tied around his neck 18 days
before he died.
>> What?
>> What? What the [ __ ]
>> What? So, July 23rd, 2019, 18 days
before Epstein's death. He wasn't
breathing, his eyes opening and shutting
occasionally, but he wouldn't or
couldn't respond to officer's questions
and commands. According to a
confidential corrections officer's memo
obtained by CBS News, they hoisted
inmate 76318054
onto a stretcher. Officials have
repeatedly said Epstein's death eventual
death by suicide was foreshadowed by
this earlier alleged attempt.
Former Attorney General Bill Bar
reiterated that claim in an August
closed door deposition before the House
Oversight Committee, which released the
interview transcript last week. Bar, who
did not reply to questions from CBS
News, said in his testimony he knew
about the July 23rd incident, which he
viewed as an attempted suicide. Bar said
he and considered it indicative of
Epstein's state of mind, but jail staff
memos, other neverbefored
documents obtained by CBS News as well
as interviews with more than a dozen
people who interacted with Epstein
before and after the incident reveal a
murkier picture than the one depicted by
Bar. The new documents have surfaced
amid persistent speculation over
Epstein's death despite official
conclusions that he died by suicide. So
he's laying on the floor and his bunky
is screaming, "I did nothing. I banged
on my door to get him out of my cell."
The source said corruptions officers
carried Epstein to his cell on a
different floor as he remained
unresponsive. "Is it was it the same the
same cop? The the contract killer cop?"
Yep. Right. He told him he thought he'd
been attacked by his cellmate, an ex-
cop who was awaiting trial on four
murders.
>> But they're saying that was an attempted
suicide.
>> Well, they tried to frame it as an
attempted suicide. No, I would imagine
he doesn't have a way to contact the
outside world and just tweet about this.
Yeah,
>> right. He can't make an Instagram video.
Hey guys, this guy's trying to [ __ ]
kill me.
>> True.
>> He sat up on the bed and began telling
me that he thinks his bunky tried to
kill him. A responding officer wrote in
one memo. A senior officer wrote in a
separate incident report that Epstein
initially implicated his cellmate in the
incident, claiming he had previously
said things that made Epstein feel
threatened.
So Nicholas Tartagleon,
his cellmate, has re repeatedly disputed
the initial allegation. I did nothing
and said he tried to rev I tried to
revive him. As with Epstein's eventual
death, any camera footage of the
incident was either mislaid, lost, or
never captured by the facility's faculty
faulty system, rather. Tartagleon
has not responded to emailed questions
from CBS News. How odd. His lawyer said
Epstein's initial claim that Tartagleion
tried to kill him was flatly not true.
>> Well,
>> okay. So maybe he did try to I mean you
know there's a chance he did try to kill
himself and was like [ __ ] I don't want
to get
>> and then his guy saved him. He said he
saved him. So it says it right here.
Scroll back up a little bit. Tartag Leon
said in a recent interview the house and
that Epstein also left a suicide note
and it even offered Tartagleon money to
kill him. What? Neither of those details
if true are referenced in any of the
bureau prison records that were reviewed
by CBS News. So, if you scroll up
higher, it says he he said he saved his
life the first time. So, it's saying
that he saved his life. He yelled when
the guy his attorney says that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Like he's saying he tried to
kill himself once.
>> Yeah. But that's just his attorney
saying that.
>> Yeah. For sure. You know, Epstein
claimed to both corrections officers and
the source that he felt threatened by t
by Tartagleon
uh hulking retired cop turned drug
dealer who was charged and later
convicted for four murders.
Just how could you take the most
high-profile defendant ever and put him
in a cage with a murderer?
>> Check that part. Um, his bunky told him
that if he beat him up because of
Ebstein's child sex trafficking charges,
the officers would not report it.
Oh, that's what he told him. The wealthy
allegedly the wealthy former financeier
told jail officers that he believed
Tartagleó was trying to extort money
from him and stated that if he didn't
pay him that he was going to beat him
up. The officer wrote he stated that
this has been going on for a week. And
then that guy saying Epstein was trying
to pay me to kill him for himself.
>> You would have think they could find a
middle ground, man.
>> Well, someone's lying.
>> I know.
>> That's the craziest. There's too many
plot holes. There's no way.
>> Imagine like who's saying I'll pay you
to kill me.
>> Yeah. Also, it's like, wait, how are we
going to do that? How are we going to
work this all out?
>> Yeah. The guy's already Well, that would
And then what's he going to do with the
money?
>> Exactly.
>> How's he going to get the money?
>> I guess you can give it if you know
somebody you know you love, you can give
it to them, but
>> Right. Does he have money or does all of
his money go to the victim's families?
Like he killed four people.
>> [ __ ] man. You might be right.
>> Yeah.
>> So, it would have to be like an offshore
account that like gets slipped over to
the prison so he could buy cigarettes.
>> If anyone can do it, if anyone can do
it, it's Jeffrey Epste, man.
>> But it would have to be worked out in
advance. Like he would have to have the
cigarettes in the commissary. All right.
Okay. Time to kill you.
>> Dude, it's it's too uh you know, I think
it's just one of those things. I don't
know if people can, you know, want to
wrap their heads around it, but there's
just people who do things in this world
on behalf of like, you know, uber
billionaires that we're just never going
to know what's going on.
>> For sure.
>> There they do horrible, terrible secret
stuff. And they always have.
>> Yeah.
>> This is the thing. If like you go
throughout history, there's always been
secret societies and people that get
together with creepy meetings. All that
eyes wide shut [ __ ] that Cubert put in
his film. That's not He's not imagining
that.
>> No, that's always been a thing. The
officer that discovered his body dead in
August was originally charged with
falsifying documents related to his
death, but those charges were dropped.
>> H I wonder what the falsifying of the
documents was.
>> I don't know. I don't know. Who knows?
Maybe people charged it to try to open
up the paperwork or whatever.
>> Here it is. Because Epstein was on
suicide watch after the July 23rd
incident, Thomas was required to lo to
record a log of observations about
Epstein in 15minute increments. Those
notations were released by the Bureau of
Prisons in 2023 along with just one
entry he made in the log, a note made at
2:15 a.m. 45 minutes after the incident.
15 minutes later at 2:30, Thomas wrote,
"Inmate sitting on bed trying to
remember what happened."
Huh?
Yeah, man.
>> So, this is the when he got attacked the
first time that he survived,
>> huh?
>> Yeah. They claim he once he got into the
separate cell, he was uh trying to fall
forward on his head or something. Sat on
the edge of the bed and began moving
forward as if he was attempting to fall
over head first.
>> Huh.
>> He was told to stop. Don't do it again.
And he gave a thumbs up.
>> That's how they confirm he was trying to
commit suicide.
>> So, he's going to try to commit suicide
by falling straight on his head from
>> That's impossible. That's literally
impossible. in your face.
>> You might be able to pull it off.
>> That's crazy.
>> You would block for sure,
>> right?
>> There's no way you can just do a sail. I
was like thinking about this the other
day. I was walking off my steps. I was
like, even if I tried, I couldn't do
like a swan dive on the cement. You
would your body wouldn't let you do it.
>> Yeah. You would resist resist just
enough to be paralyzed for the rest of
your life.
>> You would get [ __ ] up for sure. I
don't know. I think you would just kind
of flatten out and flail. Yeah, because
guys die all the time in street fights
when they get knocked out and then they
fall and they hit their head on the
concrete. Dude, they die all the time.
>> It happened uh before I left Philly a
year or so ago, there's a guy just
walking his dog off leash and this guy
was like, "Put your dog on leash."
>> They got into work, you know, they
started arguing and a guy punched him
and he hit his head and died. And then
my brother went on an online date with
the fiance of the guy who died and like
learned throughout the date like, "Oh
[ __ ] you're the lady." He was married.
>> Bummer of a date.
>> It was pretty [ __ ] sad actually. Oh,
>> he like put it together and he's like,
"Oh, [ __ ] He died. That sucks."
>> How long after that was the date?
>> I think it was maybe a year and a half.
It's It been some time, you know,
>> enough to stop the crying.
>> Yeah. I mean, you got to pick it up at
one point. Especially if he died like
that, man. Got punched on a dog walk and
died.
>> I don't know. If I was
>> walk with a helmet and
>> if I was a lady, I'd be like, "Oh, [ __ ]
I dodged a bullet."
>> Oh, husband could have just died.
>> Yeah. That's scary, though, man. And
that's yeah the the whole thing of like
altercations and people popping off to
each other anymore is just like I was
walking down the street recently and
like you know I had the right away I
walked and I didn't even like rush in
front of the car. The car pulled up and
was like get the [ __ ] out like
threatened to shoot me in the face. I
was just like what the hell man.
>> Yeah. It was like he had pulled off far
enough and he's like I'll shoot you in
your [ __ ] face. And I was just like
please don't like you know what the [ __ ]
man what are you doing
>> bro? You never know who's unhinged.
>> I know. You never know what's going on
in that life. The divorce, [ __ ] this,
that, just got fired, about to go to
jail. Who knows?
>> Yeah.
>> Who knows,
>> dude? Yeah. That's
>> best friend was [ __ ] your wife.
>> Could be literally anything.
>> Yeah. It's like I I never It's like
Yeah. Whatever, man.
>> So many people are barely hanging on out
there, doing something all day they
hate.
>> Yeah.
>> Just [ __ ] tired. Life's in a
shambles, dude. I I don't And especially
like people just talk [ __ ] to strangers.
was like, "You have no idea who that
person is." My I don't know if you know,
who knows if this is like just like an
old construction worker tale. But my dad
was telling me some guy he knows his mom
or whatever or like you know his
friend's mom was at the grocery store.
Someone back they like both going for a
parking spot. It was like an old lady
and the guy was like [ __ ] [ __ ] get
the hell out blah blah blah started
cursing her out. Her son came out of
jail for like you know like he was like
a biker all this stuff and they all like
knew each other in the neighborhood.
Apparently the guy who had like cursed
out the mom they were like nobody ever
saw him again. So, if that's true, it's
like gee, I always think about that. I'm
like, dude, that's, you know, you just
can't be, you shouldn't yell at an old
lady anyway, but you just have no idea
who you're dealing with,
>> right?
>> Just might as well chill. That was one
of the creep creepier things about the
Epstein emails or the the files, the
data was that he ordered 330 gallons of
sulfuric acid after he'd been indicted.
>> What does that do?
>> Dissolves bodies.
>> Oh, no.
>> Yeah. Uh
>> so so they were trying to speculate that
like maybe that was for his desalination
system that he had. He had like a water
system that you some sulfuric acid
cleans it out. But then Jamie looked
into it. He had only ordered it like
once before ever, but never that much.
>> Yeah, that's terri. Also, he lives in
near the oceans. Like why would you just
go in the ocean? Just
>> you got to get rid of bodies. You live
on an island. Just go out the water.
>> Yeah, but they could find it. Yeah, I
guess so.
>> Yeah, they might find it.
>> Yeah,
>> you can't have that.
>> True. Especially if enough that we need
a bunch of acid.
>> Do they have a lot of sharks down there?
>> I would think.
>> Yeah, like the Bahamas, right? It's like
Bahamas area.
>> Yeah, I I would think so. There's like
sharks in Florida. I was just in
>> Florida. Florida's a lot of sharks,
especially bull sharks.
>> Yeah, exactly. I I was swimming. I
brought my friend with me to do shows
and he was like, I'm worried about
sharks. There's no [ __ ] sharks out
here. And we got back and the Uber
driver was like, "Yeah, this is like
shark season right now." I was like,
"Oh, [ __ ] My bad. Shark season.
>> Yeah, they I think it's the bull sharks.
They see them all the time down there.
>> Bull sharks are scary.
>> They're the ones that they think are
responsible for the murders in New
Jersey that inspired Jaws.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> How big how big do they get?
>> They don't get as big as like great
whites, but the thing about them is they
could swim in fresh water.
>> So those murders that uh murders those
deaths by shark uh in New Jersey in like
the early 1900s,
>> they were in a river.
>> What? Yeah.
>> So, these people were swimming in a
river and they got killed by sharks.
>> Yeah. You would never expect it either.
>> Bull sharks are like very aggressive,
too.
>> Oh, are they really
>> super aggressive? They um there's the
Florida Keys like guys fish off the
peers down there
>> and uh it's really great fishing, but if
you catch a big fish and you're
struggling to get it on the line, most
likely a shark's going to kill it.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Most likely you're going to get it
bitten in half. There's like tons of
videos of guys pulling in fish and the
shark just snaps it in half while
they're pulling it in.
>> That's terrifying, man.
>> They're all over the place down there,
dude.
>> Dude, I went to Turks and Kos, my me and
my family went down there. My kids, we
were we went snorkeling and you know,
the guy takes us out and he's like,
"Hey, we like, you know, got in the area
where we're going to jump in." He's
like, "Hey, there's some baby sharks out
there. Um, you know, but they're not
going to bother you." So, I'm like,
"What the fuck?"
>> Exactly. And I have like I've had
[ __ ] like two and a four-year-old
with me. So, I jump in. in. I'm like,
"Let me sus it out. I'm going to go
see." Dude, I go down and like these
were like, you know, they weren't like
18t sharks, but they were like five,
six, they were like big enough, but they
were 40 like it was like probably 40t
deep and then they were like at the
bottom, but then another 50 ft away. And
I was like, "Bro, I'm not bringing my
kids in here." Yeah. I'm trying to find
this video that my friend Adam sent me
of uh sharks in Florida cuz I always
give him [ __ ] He lives in Australia and
I always give him [ __ ] like, "Bro, you
live in a place filled with monsters.
What the [ __ ] are you doing?" Like,
because it's true. Florida's Florida has
a lot, but
>> Australia has more. Australia has
saltwater crocodiles. They have great
whites.
>> But he sent me this video. He's like,
"This isn't America, mate."
>> And it's uh these guys are throwing God,
I can't find it. These guys are throwing
um fish into the water, right? No, I'm
not going to find it. They they're
throwing fish into the water right next
to the shore and
>> it's just sharks like piranhas just
smashing and they're like off off a
dock,
>> dude.
>> They're just like throwing fish scraps
in there and the fish the sharks are
apparently used to it, I guess.
>> That's terrifying.
>> Yeah,
>> dude. I
>> Oh, here it is. I found it.
>> Nice.
>> Here, hold on. I'll send it to you,
Jamie.
>> Dude, dolphins. Do you ever see a
dolphin in real life?
>> Yes.
>> They're scary as hell. Those things are
huge.
>> I swam with them.
>> I did it, too. I was in Mexico and I
thought I was going to be like, you
know, gliding on two of them. I was like
barely wanting to touch this thing.
>> I did it in Hawaii. You jump off the
boat and you snorkel and you get to see
them swimming under. It's really wild.
Check this out. So this guy throws these
scraps in the water. Look at these
sharks.
>> God damn.
>> Look at these things.
>> How crazy is that?
>> Look at these things fight for this.
>> Look how many of them there are. Yeah.
That's
>> Bro, that's crazy. That Look how big
they are. Yeah, more than big enough to
take your legs off.
>> All right, go ahead, dick wagon. Throw
it in.
>> Go ahead, dick wagon. Why?
>> I'd be so mad if I was his neighbor. I'd
be like, "Dude, I'm trying to paddle
board, man."
>> Well, I think this is just what they do
every day, which is why the sharks are
there in the first place.
>> I think when these guys get there, you
know, when they fillet the fish, they
have the bodies, they just tuck the body
overboard, and these sharks just destroy
it.
>> Yeah.
>> How spooky is that?
>> It's terrifying, dude.
>> Yeah, that's Florida.
>> That's That's crazy. Where's Marco
Island?
>> Uh, I don't know. Where is that? Where's
Marco Island?
>> It's probably the key somewhere. That's
[ __ ] That's awful.
>> Florida's filled with monsters. Like
that whole thing that they're doing with
ice where they've got that alligator
Guantanamo,
>> you know? They got a they got their they
built a Guantanamo for detainees and
then they surrounded it with alligator
country.
>> Like a cartoon moat.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's going crazy.
>> Check this out. Okay. So, where is it?
>> It's like opposite of Miami on the
>> Oh, okay.
>> Okay. So it's not it's not the Keys.
It's just Florida.
>> Crazy.
>> Damn. So they have like a classical moat
with alligators around it.
>> Well, it's not essentially a moat.
>> Was it island? I guess.
>> How did How did they do it? They build
an island down there. Is that what they
did?
>> Somebody got a sweet contract to put
that in there.
>> They're calling it alligator
>> Yeah, they call it alligator Alcatraz.
>> Um, what does it look like? Can you show
us?
>> Damn, dude. Alligators in Florida are
everywhere. They say there's not a like
standing body of water that doesn't have
an alligator.
>> I know. My friends were just at Disney
World and they said they got a they're
like, "Is there alligators around here?"
Like, "Yeah, we flush them out all the
time."
>> One killed a kid a few years back.
>> I heard about that. Just reached up and
just snagged it.
>> Bro, imagine your little toddler at
Disneyland just saw Cinderella having a
good time.
>> That's got to be fast. That's fast pass
for life though for the family.
>> So, that is all the Everglades and the
Everglades is just filled like if you go
walking like I'm out of here.
>> [ __ ] that. Like something's probably
going to get you.
>> No,
>> the Everglades are so [ __ ] because
it's not just the alligators. It's also
the pythons. There's giant pythons,
dude.
AI so ruthless.
>> That's [ __ ] alligators with ice hats
on.
>> Dude, the pythons are another cuz you
they catch you while you're sleeping. So
you lay down to sleep and you just wake
up and you're just
>> Are there more pythons in the Everglades
than there are anywhere in the world?
>> No way. Cuz there's a half a million of
them, they think.
>> What? Do you ever hear about Snake
Island in Brazil?
>> No,
>> dude. There's an island in Brazil that I
guess like whatever, you know, tectonic
plates or whatever moved and it used to
be connected to the mainland. It went
out and all the snakes just got stuck on
there with no natural predators.
>> They just eat each other.
>> Yeah, they just fight and eat each
other. And there's Dude, there's
apparently a snake like every meter you
move, there's at least one snake.
>> What?
>> I Dude, the images are [ __ ] are terrify.
They're like just piled on top of each
other. There are not more pythons in the
Everglades than anywhere else. The
Burmese python's native range in
Southeast Asia from India to Indonesia
supports far larger wild populations,
though exact numbers are hard to
quantify due to their vast habitat.
Everglades context: Burmese pythons are
invasive species. Florida Everglades
with estimates ranging from tens of
thousands to 300 thousands individuals
uh across southern Florida concentrate
in Evergrades National Park where their
density is notably high. population
exploded from a few snakes in the 90s to
enveloping much of the region by the
2020s driven by the release from pet
trade and events like Hurricane Andrew.
Yeah, they had Hurricane Andrew
apparently blew down a facility where
they were studying pythons.
>> No. And that's how they got out.
>> A bunch of them got out. And then
there's also people with pets, just
[ __ ] and death metal bands.
>> Yeah, they just dropped them.
>> Yeah, they just dropped them.
>> Well, that's how we we There's um what
we call it? Parakeetses here. They're
like they're like an invasive species
and they think that happened too.
Someone just like let their parakeets
out and now they're a problem here.
>> That's iguanas in Florida, too.
>> You know, they sell canned iguana meat
in Florida now.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. A buddy of mine lives in Florida.
He just sent me this.
>> He sent me uh he was at the supermarket
and they have uh iguana meat.
>> Probably not that.
>> Dude, I'm telling you, the uh Snake
Island, I I was like I thought it was
fake. My wife was telling me about it.
I'm like, "Dude, you got tricked. This
is has to be AI." I looked it up and
it's like it's a real thing. Let me see
that iguana meat. Yeah, I'm saying it.
>> I would It would probably be good. I've
eaten Gator before. Gator is not bad.
This might be fake.
>> I think it is. There's a God damn it.
>> I'm googling it. There's a a pizza
restaurant that got in trouble for
serving it
>> really.
>> But nothing else is popping up about
candy.
>> They got in trouble for serving it. Did
they tell people they were serving it?
>> You know, cuz people eat them.
>> They hunt them and eat them all the
time. I was watching a YouTube video the
other day where this guy was making like
stir-fried iguana meat.
>> Well, they get massive. They get
massive.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And they apparently taste
good. probably. They're aggressive, too.
If you see them in the wild, they'll
like charge after you.
>> They're nasty, man.
>> They're big.
>> Yeah, they're pretty like four or five
feet long.
>> They're Yeah, they're huge.
>> Nuts.
>> That was another animal I encountered in
Turks and Caos. We did the shark
swimming and I was like, "All right, I
let them like get out of the way." And
then we went to this island that was
just full of iguanas and they'll they'll
just run up on you. Do you know in
Florida when it gets really cold, they
just fall out of trees?
>> No.
>> Hilarious.
>> Cuz sometimes Florida it'll dip. It'll
get into the 30s and these [ __ ] just
fall out of the trees like stoned.
>> They just freeze and just
>> freeze and then they thaw out and come
back to life.
>> What?
>> Yeah.
>> [ __ ] That's an ancient species. Like
these are ancient creatures.
>> Damn. So they I thought they I thought
they need the like they're cold blooded
and they die so they can just I guess
they can just chill and
>> Well, so are alligators and alligators
freeze in lakes sometimes with their
mouths above the water.
>> They have their nose and their eyes
above the water and they just they're
frozen. There's a bunch of images of
these guys.
>> That's awesome.
>> Frozen in lakes.
>> I guess everything just slows down and
they just chill.
>> They don't have to eat for a year.
>> What?
>> Yeah. They can go without eating for a
whole year.
>> So, how much do you think we really have
to eat if alligators if bears don't have
to eat all winter? Alligators can go one
year. Like, do you think we're I always
think like do we have to eat every day?
>> Well, we definitely eat more than any
people have ever have except like
royals. Yeah.
>> You know, that's why people were so
tiny. Like you go back to like the Civil
War, the average man was like 130
pounds.
>> Yeah, that makes sense.
>> Yeah. Because nobody had any food,
>> you know, nobody had any protein.
>> Yeah.
>> But if you think about like how much we
eat morning, noon, and then evening,
>> hunter gatherers, they they got a meal a
day. Yeah.
>> You know, like if you got lucky, you had
a meal and you ate as much as you could
because there's no way to preserve it.
And then you went out the next day and
hoped you got another animal.
>> Yeah. That's kind of wild. You must have
spent like 6,000 calories a day just
trying to get one meal.
>> Yeah. And then other than like drying
your meat out, there's no way to
preserve it. So they would make jerky
or,
>> you know, like uh I know in uh Mexico,
some friends of mine went down there and
they have this traditional way of taking
buffalo and they slice it like really
really thin and then they hang it on
like a clothes hanger and dry it out.
>> Really?
>> That's all we need to do.
>> Well, that's what they had to do. They
had to figure out how to dry stuff cuz,
you know, there's no ref, man. How
[ __ ] hard life must have been with no
refrigeration.
>> Dude, it would suck so bad.
>> Suck so bad, man. I mean, that's like
when you go back to the turn of the
century, all the diseases were happening
in America. Just think about it. No
running water. Everybody's like [ __ ]
in holes in the ground outside the
houses. There's no ventilation. There's
no air conditioning.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> No vitamins.
>> Especially here. How many do people live
in Texas? Hard people.
>> I've been reading It must been crazy.
>> Hard people.
>> Yeah.
>> Hard [ __ ] people.
>> I've been reading West I'm reading Lone
Lonesome Dove right now. It's like an
old classic western and they just talk
about how hot they are all day long.
It's just dust in their face and it's
like, dude, that [ __ ] would suck.
Especially if you don't live near a
lake, so you can cool off a little bit.
>> Yeah. Oh, no. There's like Yeah. They
have like a spring house and every time
they go to get water, there's just
rattlesnakes everywhere near the spring
house. It's like, dude, that sucks so
bad. There's a great book about Texas
called um Empire of the Summer Moon.
>> Oh, I've heard of that before.
>> About the settlers encountering the
Comanche.
>> You got to think like if the Comanche if
this is where they lived and they lived
here year round, like they had to be the
hardest [ __ ] people in the world.
>> Yeah, dude. That would be brutal.
>> Just had to be [ __ ] just tough as
[ __ ] Especially when it gets like
freezing, too. They have like that two
weeks where it's super cold and Yeah,
that would be you never know when it's
coming back then either. You couldn't
prepare like Texas. Like right now it's
80. Two weeks ago it was 30.
>> Before that it was 20. Before that it
was 70. Like it's you don't know when
it's coming.
>> No. You have I like I've been here for
two years and I know we're going to get
like a solid collective week of real
winter
>> and the rest of it's just like 50 60 70
80 20 40. It's kind of like
>> it's worth it. I think it's perfect
because it gives you just enough cold so
you appreciate the warm. Just enough but
nothing like where you want to kill
yourself.
>> Yeah, I agree. nothing like there's, you
know, Montana winters and Wyoming
winters where they last like seven
months. You're like, I don't know if I
want to do this.
>> Even regular East Coast winter, I
couldn't handle it. By the time I had
left, like you don't feel the sun for
like at least 3 months. And I remember
spring it would finally like come out
and it's like that messes me up. Like I
need I'd rather it be super hot and
sunny than be cold. Yeah.
>> Cuz you can just like, you know,
>> just figure jump in a lake, jump in a
pool. You can
>> You know, that's what flu season's all
about too.
>> What? It's not like the flu emerges in
the winter. It's just everybody's immune
system's low. No one has any vitamin D.
A buddy of mine who was a doctor said
that he would do tests on people in New
York City and he said so many people
would come into his practice that had
undetectable levels of vitamin D.
>> What?
>> Yeah. Because they weren't supplementing
at all and they were wearing winter
clothes and they were never outside and
everybody's sick and they don't know
why. Well, you're vitamin D depleted.
>> Yeah. That's why in Seattle they have a
lot of people go in tanning beds and
[ __ ] They try to like do something to
>> Oh, just to get people
>> because tanning beds will give you a
natural dose of vitamin D.
>> That's kind of nice.
>> Yeah.
>> Apparently it's Isn't it like a hormone
more than a vitamin?
>> So yeah, that's what I heard. It's like
not even just like you know vitamin A or
B. It's like something you absolutely
need big time.
>> Yeah. A lot of people are saying you
should hyperdose it too. Like because
the USDA recommended is like 5,000
milligrams. A lot of people are saying
like 30,000 is what they take every day.
>> Yeah, I I had to do that for a while
because I had low vitamin D and they
were like, "You can take as much of this
as you want." I I'm like so I'm like
such a baby with medicine. Like I'm like
super sensitive to it. It did like
absolutely no side effects at all.
>> No, it doesn't give you side effects,
but for full absorption, I think you're
supposed to take it with a bunch of
other stuff. Like I think the
recommended is I take it with K2,
vitamin K2, and magnesium. I think there
might be one other thing that also helps
absorption, but uh like Dr. Rhonda
Patrick was on a podcast recently and
she was talking about how vitamin D,
someone was taking vitamin D, but they
weren't showing any improvement. She's
like, "Were you taking it with
magnesium?"
>> So magnesium apparently helps vitamin D
get absorbed in your like there's a
bunch of those things that like works
like if you if you take them without any
fat or any food, they're not good.
>> But then like amino acids, you have to
take them on an empty stomach. It's like
you got to know what you're doing.
>> That's true. Yeah. I have like a paste.
It's like a goop that's like fatty and I
just put it on a spoon and take
>> What is it? Just vitamin D fatty.
>> It's vitamin D. It's like a lipos somal
thing.
>> Oh, you put it on a spoon.
>> Yeah. See, I just eyeball it. I'm like,
that's probably about right.
>> I wonder if like liposomaal absorbs
easier.
>> Isn't that the whole idea about it?
>> It's paired to a fat and it kind of, you
know,
>> right? I wonder if that you don't need
as much like or you don't need vitamin D
or uh K2 rather.
>> Well, I I don't know. But I was low and
then I'm not now. So, I'm like, maybe it
worked. Maybe it was a fact I was
outside. I don't know.
>> I'm sure it works.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's just like, does it work
optimally? That's the thing.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like just taking it alone is
definitely going to be better than not
taking it at all. But they think that
for maximum absorption, what what are
the things that you should take with
vitamin D for put that in perpetually?
The the things you take with vitamin D
for maximum absorption.
>> It's hard to remember all this stuff,
too. That's part of the problem. Like
I'll hear it on a podcast. I'm like,
"Yeah, yeah."
Go back home. What the [ __ ] did the [ __ ]
did Andrew Huberman say?
>> Yeah. I I remember I heard um Heberman
had this thing about cortisol and he's
like, "You need to spike your cortisol
early in the morning, which I you know,
if I get up and exercise in the morning,
like, yeah, that's seems true because I
feel good." But then I was like, I I
can't have caffeine anymore. I had to
get off completely.
>> Really,
>> dude? I have I I can't have it. I'm like
super sensitive to it. If I had a cup of
coffee, what time is it right now? If I
had a cup of coffee now at 2:00, I would
not sleep till midnight.
>> Is that because you don't drink much of
it or I don't metabolize it?
>> Oh, that's my mom. My dad can drink
coffee and fall asleep. If my mom has
coffee, she's it just it like you have
it and I can feel it just in my body for
hours and I it's just like a non-stop c
like I love caffeine. The mental effects
my body just can't stand it.
>> Have you ever tried um neutropics like
theine?
>> I've done it all.
>> Acetylcholine. But not acetyloline, but
I've taken alenine with it, which helped
a little bit, but then I'll just drink
more coffee cuz
>> No, I don't mean with coffee. I mean by
itself as like a little bit of a pickme
up.
>> Oh yeah. No, I I like uh Yeah, I take I
take althanium before I go to sleep. I
think it kind of helps me sleep.
>> Yeah, I hear that too, which is
interesting because it helps with your
memory. Like how does it help with your
memory and also help you go to sleep?
>> I don't know.
>> Here it says vitamin D is a fat soluble
nutrient so pairing it with dietary fat
maximizes its absorption in the gut.
Take vitamin D supplements with a meal
containing fats for optimal uptake.
Studies show you can boost serum levels
by about 50%. Foods like fatty fish,
avocados, olive oil, nut, seeds, or full
fat yogurt provide these fats
effectively. Supportive nutrients.
Magnesium aids in converting vitamin D
to its active form and transporting it
in the body. Vitamin K2 works
synergistically to direct calcium to
bones, enhancing benefits for bone
health. Omega-3 fatty acids from fish
oil also improve absorption alongside
fats. All right, so that's it. So,
vitamin D should take with magnesium and
K2 and probably some fish oil.
>> Nice.
>> There you go.
>> That was eating it after breakfast. So,
there we go. Was getting my fats.
>> Yeah.
>> But yeah, the caffeine for me, I can't
like, you know, everyone's different,
but I I can't have it. Like, I
>> I could drink two double espressos and
go to sleep.
>> That's crazy. So, here's my thing, too.
I stopped because I didn't start really
drinking caffeine all the time until I
had kids. But I I like I don't have
dreams at night. If I drink even coffee
during like the day, no dreams at night
>> really.
>> If I don't know what it is, man. I'm
super super sensitive to it.
>> Well, a lot of people that stop smoking
weed say that they get wild crazy
dreams.
>> That happens too. That kind of blocks
your dreams, too.
>> Yeah.
>> But even that, like I don't know. I I
smoked weed forever and like I would
still kind of have dreams, but it's the
caffeine just like completely
neutralizes them. And then they say that
it's like anecdotal, but they say that
um caffeine, there's anecdotal evidence
that it kind of uh what is it? It like
discourages or you know, whatever it
does to your brain, you don't do as much
divergent thinking. It's more like
convergent where like if you need to get
like a task like all right, I need to
edit something. Caffeine's great. If
you're like, I need to come up with a
story idea.
>> There's like anecdotal evidence that
says like people who are on caffeine
report that it like messes up their
ability to like
>> just kind of like, you know, come up
with like new or novel ideas.
>> That makes sense. Yeah.
>> Because you're just hyperfocused on the
one thing that you're doing, like a lowd
dose meth.
>> Yeah, pretty much.
>> Yeah. Like my friends that have dated
girls that have had problems with
amphetamines, one of the things they say
is they know when they're on it because
then they start cleaning the house. They
start cleaning everything.
>> Yeah.
>> They start getting like hyperfocused on
like organizing and cleaning.
>> Like that sounds like a good drug.
>> Yeah. What's What's the back? It's
probably a spaz though. That's probably
the backlash. Well, it's probably
they're doing it for 12 hours while
they're listening to Slayer.
>> Yeah. [ __ ] dude. [ __ ] You're not even
talking about Adderall. This is them
doing like crystal meth or something.
>> I don't know. You saying amphetamines?
>> I I assume it's like meth.
>> Yeah. Empetamine babe would be not
ideal. I don't think
>> Well, I've talked to people that have
done meth and they they say you feel
like you're [ __ ] Superman, but you
also like want to get things done.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> That's I've heard that similar thing
about crack where you feel like a
genius. You smoke crack. Apparently,
you're just like, "Dude, like why would
I have a refrigerator? I can sell it
right now and I can just order out to
and like apparently you're just like the
smartest person in your head in the
world,
>> right?"
>> And then you just like it all crashes
every 30 minutes.
>> It's It's like freebased cocaine is what
all it is.
>> Yeah.
>> Like what Richard Prior was doing back
in the day, that was just before crack.
>> Yeah.
>> It was freebasing cocaine.
>> Yeah. And it's weird, too, because I
think it just like coke I think just
floods your brain. A lot of things just
flood your brain with dopamine.
>> Yeah. But the delivery method apparently
of crack is superior. Like there's
something about smoking it where it just
goes right to your head. Well, I know
this from Hunter Biden cuz Hunter Biden
was he was on that Channel 5 show when
he was talking about it. It's [ __ ] he
was so descriptive of it. It almost made
you want to try crack. He it was almost
like it was like a romantic tale of like
a bad romance that he had to get out of.
This is a very genuinely way to say it's
a superior delivery mechanism.
>> Well, he's very smart, right? So he's
very articulate and he's talking about
like what it was like to smoke crack
>> and it's like holy [ __ ] man.
>> And I I wonder I guess I guess he's off
of it cuz I guess like you know yeah if
you started again it's probably just
another
>> Well there was that baggie they found at
the White House but
first of all might have been his but
also you think he's the only one of
those people doing coke.
>> Yeah I was about to say that could be
anybody. Listen, there's probably a lot
of those folks that need a little pickme
up sometimes before a meeting, before
>> they have to do a press thing or Oh,
dude. You're working 16 hours a day, a
little tired.
>> Woo!
>> Big time.
>> Let's go.
>> I used to work at a real estate company
when I was in college just like, you
know, they would like buy apartment
buildings and dude, all the like the
senior management were like, they used
to buy aderall off me.
>> They would just chomp [ __ ] aderall.
come in and just be like they would do
sales meetings and just be like
>> a friend of mine who's a journalist says
that all these journalists are on
aderall.
>> Yeah, I believe it
>> says it makes you productive.
>> They're all doing it.
>> Some of them are like super open about
it. Like Dave Portoy when he was in here
he was telling us what did he say he
took 30 milligrams? I
>> think I don't remember but yeah
>> it was enough that I was like yo and
then I had to go to Jamie. How much is
that? And Jamie was like a lot.
>> 30 is Yeah. 30 is uh that would get you
>> but not a lot if you do it a lot right?
>> Yeah. You get a Yeah,
>> that's the thing. It's like if you're
doing edibles with Joey Diaz, like how
much should I take? Take two,
[ __ ] Like what? Take two. How
much do you take?
>> Yeah, that would definitely mean I feel
like I can't get a tolerance to eat
edibles. They just knock me out every
time.
>> Jamie can just eat them and they don't
do anything for them.
>> That's crazy. I know people like that,
too. They're like, "Well, I need like
200 milligrams to feel it." I'm like,
I'm psychotic. At 200 milligrams, I'm
fried.
>> It's a lot.
>> Yeah, 200 is a lot. I used to have these
lollipops that were 200 milligrams. So,
I would try to gauge it like I don't
want to eat too much of it and it would
just I would get [ __ ] whacked all the
time.
>> So, we were we went over how many people
are on aderall once like the number of
Adderall prescriptions in a year. It was
something bonkers. It was like 39
million Aderall prescriptions in this
country. But then you have to go like
how many people is that? Right? Cuz like
you refill your prescriptions. So, how
often do you refill it? How many times a
year? You know what I mean?
>> I think it's more than 39. If that's the
case, I feel like there's 39 million
subscribers to Adall.
>> Well, there's definitely people that are
getting it other ways. For sure.
>> For sure.
>> Yeah. You get your script and you sell
it. But it's like,
>> so there are not just that. You're
getting it illegally. You know, you're
getting illegal good and bad. You're,
you know, getting cartel stuff
>> like pressed and stuff.
>> Yeah. Like they they can make a volume
that looks just like a Valium and
there's [ __ ] fentanyl in it.
>> Yeah. True. No, that's that's a that
like the pill world is they're like
completely riddled with that right now.
>> Oh, it's scary, man. Cuz kids are taking
these like there was a kid from a local
high school around here that I read a
story that he took an Adderall. He
thought it was an Adderall and it had
fentinyl in it. He died. He got it from
one of his friends. He was just trying
to cram for studies.
>> Yeah. That's that's why I always tell
people, anyone I know who does Coke, I'm
always like, "You got to stop, man."
They're like, "No, we'll test it." It's
like, "No, you're not. You're going to
be at a bar. You're going to be
hammered. You're going to buy Coke and
shove it up your nose.
>> I stop and be like, "Let me see."
>> I've never done it, but all my friends
who have done it have all said the same
thing. Don't do it.
>> It's
>> I've never I've never done it either. I
had no I've never had any interest, but
it's like I every time I'm around people
on it, I'm just like, "Dude, this
sucks."
>> Yeah.
>> Maybe they're having fun, but it's like
>> they want to sell you Bitcoin.
>> They want to go into business now.
>> Everybody does.
>> They get like super hyped about a
project they want to bring in. Well,
that's what I think. I I guess that's
the way it was explained to me. You just
feel like you've accomplished something
major. So, you just like snore Coke and
you're like, I am the best ever. It's
like why? I don't know. I just Yeah.
Joey Diaz used to say that you can't go
on stage with that.
>> Yeah, I can see that.
>> It's the worst. He goes, "You have no
feeling. You don't feel for the crowd."
>> Yeah. That's how I feel about I can't
drink and go on stage cuz I'll just I
I'm way too confident. If something
doesn't land, I'm like, "Fucking
whatever, pussy." Like I just don't I
don't care and I just do so bad.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a weird fine dance
that people do with substances and
performing especially if you're doing
like a speed or something because you
can get it wrong.
>> I would imagine.
>> Yeah. You can get your balance wrong.
>> I've heard aderall does not mix with
comedy at all. That's what I've heard.
>> I've heard people like it. You're just
It's like a weird part of your brain
where you're just too lasered in.
>> I've heard people like to use it for
writing though, which I think is weird.
I guess. Yeah. I don't know.
>> I know they use it for writing books.
>> I don't know if it would be the same for
writing comedy
>> because, you know, you're talking about
like coming up with ideas like you'd
imagine that would be the coffee thing
on steroids.
>> Yeah. Right.
>> I don't I for me for writing like I like
to write. I like I write books. I like
to do other stuff.
>> Writing standup is more like it has to
just pop into my head. Then I go like,
"Oh, that would be funny." And then I
you know, if I start fleshing it out,
like new ideas come. I've tried to like
write standup and it never it like very
rarely do I get anything that like works
when I do that.
>> Yeah, me too. But what I do is I write
essays.
>> I just like essays on a subject and then
from that I'll extract little things.
>> That's a good idea.
>> And then I take that little thing and I
say how do I introduce this thing and
what is what would be funny about this
thing and how would I lead into this and
what are the other like surrounding
things that would go with this?
>> No, that's that's a good way to do it. I
have to I have to trick myself into
being like I'm memorizing my material so
I just bullet point it and then I get
bored and my mind wanders. I'm like that
would actually be pretty funny,
>> right? And then you start rambling.
Yeah, that's the thing about the essay
that if you just sit down and write a
sub, you know, about a subject, whatever
that subject is,
>> that you just start thinking about all
the different aspects of that sub
instead of thinking how to write in
comedy form.
>> Yeah. you know.
>> No, that that's a that's a smart idea
because yeah, if I try to write it then
like you try to repeat it but you wrote
it down so then it sounds like a written
thing and it's like
>> but even that in the essay way it's a
brutal process because then you have to
take that one sentence or that one
paragraph in a thousand words and then
figure out a way to introduce that where
it's not clunky.
>> Yeah.
>> And then figure out what's the funniest
part about it. And it's like you have to
always know that the first time you
bring it out there it's going to suck.
>> Yeah. And you have to just slowly but
surely trust it to get better and just
throw it into the fire every night.
>> You know, you have your bits that you
know are going to kill and you're like,
I don't want to trot that one out here.
I know
>> that is the I kind of is the funnest
part though to me. Like when I moved
here, I had just uh I think Yeah, I
think I had just put out an hour or like
recorded so I had no I had to like start
with like new material, which sucks. You
move somewhere, you have new stuff and
you're like, dude, I have only new [ __ ]
It's a bad feeling, but it's like it's
exciting because you're like you don't
know how it's going to go every night. I
don't know. I like I like that. I think
it's good. I think it's like we were
talking the other day uh about loss,
about failure. Like I was talking with
Michael Malice about bombing on stage. I
think bombing is good cuz what happens
if you bomb that feeling you feel
terrible the next day, you feel terrible
that night, and then you're like, I got
to [ __ ] get back on stage and really
like tighten up my [ __ ] And I always
have in the past made big leaps after I
bombed.
>> I'm like, I think it's important. Like
failure is important. It sucks. You
don't like it, but you got to go through
that. Like maybe you got overconfident
or maybe you were in a bad mood or maybe
it was like whatever.
>> Yeah. No, it helps. That that's what
like motivates me to write standup. If I
bomb, I'm like, "All right, now let me
let me like dial it in because I have
like I'm always doing a bunch of stuff
and like I'm like, "Oh, I got a show."
And I like, you know, organize kind of
against the gun. But yeah, a good a bomb
really is like a clarifying. It's good
for you, honestly.
>> Yes, it is. Have a bomb.
>> Well, I used to say that to fighters,
too. You lose a fight, it's good. Long
as you get really hurt, it's good
because you like that feeling. Go home
with that feeling and think about all
the stones that you left unturned, all
the times where you skip road work, all
the times you skip strength and
conditioning, all the times you're
halfassing it in the gym. That guy
didn't do that. He just beat you. Now,
you know,
>> you know, you know, like you have to
understand that there's levels to these.
There's levels to dedication. There's
levels to
>> competency and you know, a good loss is
good for you.
>> Yeah. It kind of like, you know, again,
if you have your tried and true and
you're just going on stage, oh, it's
working night after night, you just go
home, you're like, whatever. But yeah,
when you bomb it, like for me, it does
something in my brain where like my
thoughts start flying that, you know,
whatever that is just helps me get stuff
out there. Well, when I lived in Boston,
one of the things that was a real
problem was there were these there was
these local headliners that had these
[ __ ] acts, man. They had 45 minutes
of like hammered samurai sword. It was
so good cuz they had been doing that 45
minutes for a decade and a half.
>> Crazy, dude.
>> It was so good. Their timing was so
good. The the the pacing was so good.
They would crush every night. But after
a while, they never added anything new
to it. And these guys just like a buddy
of mine went to see a Boston headliner
that we knew from like Fitz Simmons went
to see a Boston headliner that we knew
from the 80s. And he goes, "Dude, he was
doing the same material." He goes, "It
was so sad." He goes, "It was just
phoning it in. It was barely getting a
response from the audience. There was
like dated references cuz this guy just
had an act and he like a [ __ ] guy who
shows up at the office. He would
>> open up his suitcase,
>> pull his act out. That was his act.
Those guys are always fascinating
because when you're like, you know, I
started in Philly and like so like the
only the first like paid gigs you get as
an open micer are like you do like moose
lodges and [ __ ] for like 50 bucks and
it's always one of those like wacko
headliners
>> who's been around for 30 years.
>> He's doing it forever. He's giving you
the career talk in between the show.
There's like I would get like comedy
magicians all the time.
>> Oh yeah.
>> And dude, it was like Yeah. Those those
guys would always kind of freak me out.
Like I would open for guys that would
talk about like floppy discs in like the
2000s and I'm back. What are you doing,
man? Like you don't have CDs anymore.
Like you
>> This guy talked about porn on a floppy
disc on stage. Dude, it was [ __ ]
Screech. RIP. It was Screech.
>> Screech.
>> RIP. I opened for Screech back in the
day and I was like, "Fuck yes. This is
going to be awesome." He was he was
killing it in the comedy clubs. He was
like one of the first people to go from
being on a sitcom to touring on the
road.
>> Yeah, I caught I caught Late Screech
though.
>> Skippy.
>> Remember Skippy from Family M? Was it
Family Matters? Is that was his What was
it from? What was the show?
>> Skippy.
>> He was another guy who was uh he was on
a sitcom.
>> Was he on not Step by Step?
>> I don't remember. But he remember same
thing. He was became he like Hollywood
didn't work out for him and
>> family ties.
>> Family ties
>> family ties with Michael J. Fox.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So that guy was headlining comedy
clubs all over the place.
>> This was like a bar in Delaware. This
was not a glamorous gig.
>> It was bad. This was
>> I was I what I I graduated college in
2009. It would have been like 2012
maybe.
>> So this was like late. This was like
late screech. And the whole time he's on
stage, people go Screech and he would
just it [ __ ] made him so mad.
But I remember it was a funny show cuz I
it was supposed to be a lady was
supposed to host I was going to feature.
It's going to be Screech as a headliner.
And the guy who owned the venue just bad
like wanted to [ __ ] this lady so bad
that he was like, "Hey, I'm letting that
lady feature. You're going to host." And
he was like, "I'll pay you the same
price." And I was like, "Yeah, whatever.
I don't give a shit." So he paid me and
I had been, you know, I've been doing
stand up for a couple years, so I was
like kind of sharp, you know, especially
for like that bar show. And this lady, I
I didn't he she had never done standup
before. This was her first time.
This guy [ __ ] her over. He thought he
was doing something nice for her. She
sat there for all the 20 minutes and
read out of a giant notebook and just
[ __ ] b like completely in horrific
like a first time standup doing 20
minutes completely bombed. And I
remember Screech was in the back with me
and he's like, "The [ __ ] is this?" I
remember he he was like bragging being
like, "Dude, they gave me eight grand. I
don't give a [ __ ] about this show."
>> I knew a few guys who their girlfriend
started doing comedy and then the
girlfriend started opening for them and
it was just wild.
>> For her sake, you can't do that. That's
so such a bad idea.
>> It's so crazy. And these guys were like
competent headliners. So the people were
coming to see them. They're excited.
Hey, we're going to go we're going to go
laugh. Have a good time. Nope.
>> No. You're going to get tortured for 20
minutes before you get to laugh.
>> Also, that's not going to help him
either. She's going to be furious. Like,
it's I don't know why people do that.
You can't.
>> Well, they want to do it. Like, help me.
Help me. That's one thing that happens a
lot with comedy couples. Like, one of
the couples will help the other one
write.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That Okay. Writing is one thing,
but like
>> And it's why they want to do it. It's
like they want to hook up with a
headliner, whether it's a guy or a girl.
Yeah. Yeah,
>> you hook up with a headliner, he or she
helps you with your act,
>> and then you go back and you know,
>> it's also impossible though cuz if
you're dating a comic and then you book
your own opener, you can't be like, "Ah,
next time I got you next time." You
know, you have to flat out be like, "No,
I'm not you're not doing this."
>> Right. And then you break up.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> But for if you really care about their
comedy, you like, "Bro, you got to you
got to go to the open mics and you
know."
>> Yeah. Doing it in front of a soldout
show when you're just starting out is a
crazy idea. It's I couldn't imagine. I
literally couldn't imagine. It would It
would have messed me up.
>> Well, that's why Kill Tony is so nuts.
Yeah.
>> Like there are people there are people
who have gone on for their first time
ever in Madison Square Garden to a
soldout arena of 16,000 people.
>> And then it's filmed for what, like a
mill couple million people. It's like
>> millions of people. You're out there
eating dick.
>> That must feel crazy waking up the next
morning.
>> Yeah. Just like if you go to sleep.
Yeah.
>> Let's imagine that you can go to sleep.
If I flub a word, I don't go to sleep.
>> They can go to sleep after that.
>> Yeah. You're essentially filming a one
minute special the first time.
>> The first time you do
>> on Netflix.
>> God damn.
>> Or on YouTube. I mean, both of them are
getting [ __ ] millions of views.
>> I know. Dude, I I I
be so scared to do that. The people who
can do that, I'm like, that's amazing.
>> Go out there and crazy.
>> True. True.
That's actually true. Some of the people
when you're you're interviewing them
after they do the set like I go, "Has
this guy been screened? Do we need to
make sure he doesn't have a [ __ ]
knife on them?"
>> They do need that airport [ __ ] thing.
>> Yeah. Oh, 100%. Some of these people are
out of their [ __ ] mind.
>> I always wanted to hang in the bar where
like the holding tank where everyone is
cuz that's got to be the craziest vibe
in there.
>> Well, you remember open mic nights?
>> Yeah, true. open mic night at the comedy
store in particular was always so nuts.
Yeah,
>> it was just a complete lunatic asylum.
>> For realist, dude,
>> there's this one guy, Robert William
Apparaya, and he would come there
everywhere. He was a really nice guy and
all of his act was about marijuana and
he at one point in time was a lawyer and
then uh I guess blew a fuse
>> and then just was doing comedy, but he
would walk from downtown. He lived in a
flop house in downtown and it would take
him hours. He would walk from downtown
to the comedy store and when it rained
out, the way he would deal with the rain
is he would take plastic grocery bags
and tuck them inside of all of his
clothing. So he'd wrap them around his
body. So he had his clothing on the
outside and these plastic bags all over
his body. That's so [ __ ] funny. The
clothes are on the outside.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, he let his clothes get
wet, but his body would be dry.
>> Well, he couldn't figure out how to put
it all outside of him. So, his solution
was just cover his skin and keep him
from getting wet and cold, which I guess
would work. It'd probably keep you
sweaty, too.
>> Yeah. You'd sweat. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, he was like a staple. And he
would go there every night late at night
and he would be like one of the last
guys up at open mic night every week.
>> Whoa.
>> Yeah. And just was insane. Like, you
couldn't you couldn't shake your hand,
>> couldn't touch him. He was always
nervous that everybody hated him. And so
he'd like be scared and I became friends
with him so he was cool with me. I' I'd
talk to him but like one time I tried to
give him knuckles. I'm like I sorry I
forgot.
>> He just wouldn't
>> Yeah.
>> He would like like mumble and look at
the ground like sorry.
>> Yeah.
>> He was legitimately cooked whatever
whatever was going on.
>> Ah [ __ ]
>> Yeah. But he was a lawyer
>> and he just blew a fuse.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> It happens.
>> Yeah it does. No, there's you forget
like well at least I did because I you
know doing the open mics it's like it is
like a complete freak factory.
>> A freak but you're like steeped in that
so much for years and then I remember
like when I finally stopped going to
open mics all the time. I was still in
Philly and I like just took a break from
the open mics. I would go do shows and I
was like let me go to the open mic. It
had been like six months and I was like
I'll go to one try stuff out. I like got
in, you know, I'm sitting behind the
area. I was in like Philly Helium just
sitting there at the open mic and I just
got like right away guys like dude look
at him [ __ ] s and it was just like
all these people like oh this was like
the worst environment you can possibly
be in.
>> It was just so everyone was like this
guy's a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] I hate
this guy. And everyone's so [ __ ]
angry and just everyone's so charged on
adrenaline all the time. They're also
like on the outside of this thing that
they want to do this dream and they get
to try it like a regular person with no
training, no schooling, no nothing. You
get to stand on that stage with a
microphone. I went down a rabbit hole
the other night
>> and I was watching open mic nights from
Long Island.
>> Oh [ __ ] dude.
>> It was so crazy.
>> That would be fun though. It's so crazy
watching someone that definitely
shouldn't be doing comedy that's trying
comedy for the first time
>> and I was, you know, it was one of those
dumb things. It was like midnight like,
well, let me see.
>> And they have them.
>> There's all kinds of basically you find
anything. Yeah. Online. And I I started
watching you. I can only watch for so
long and then I get anxiety and then I
have to shut it off. Well, that was like
when you do open mics and you finally do
like a showcase and you invite your
friends or your family to watch and
they're just like, "What the [ __ ] are
you doing? Who are these people?" You're
like, "They're my friends."
>> I brought some of my friends the first
time I ever went on stage.
>> I didn't want to do it by myself.
>> I was the opposite. I didn't want anyone
to see me for a long time.
>> Yeah.
>> And I did a show one time because I have
a big family. So, I did a show and
there's this place at Raven Lounge in
Philly. It was like awesome. Like when
we started tiny little blackbox thing in
the top of a bar. It fit maybe like 25
people and I have a big family. So I
finally was like, "All right, I'm gonna
invite my family out." Dude, I remember
I was on stage and I knew like 17 out of
the 25 people and I was like, "Dude,
[ __ ] kill me right now. This sucks."
>> And they're staring at you like this.
>> It was just all my aunt in the front
just like looking at me and I was like,
"No."
>> Watching you choke, watching you bomb.
Oh
>> for them. They were the audience. I'm
like, "Fuck."
It's but that's you know the only way
it's like I I know some people that have
taken comedy classes and then that has
kind of got them into standup.
>> Yeah. That's
>> this is a function of comedy classes and
that function is like it gets you to try
it. I don't think anybody maybe there's
a few out people out there that are like
legit comics that are teaching them but
for the most part not how so we had a
comedy class at helium there and the
thing was if you won the if you took the
comedy class it get let you in the
comedy classes contest then you can
compete with the other people in the
class and if you won that you got the
hosting gig at Helium
>> and it was it was a sweet deal but it
was so hard to get into Helium so I had
done standup for a while I took time off
and when I got back into it I was like
[ __ ] it I'm taking that comedy class.
I'm going to try to fasttrack myself
into host. So, I won the comedy class
contest and and then I got into Philly's
Funniest. When I won Philly's Funniest,
I got, you know, they're like the improv
theater across the street was like,
"We'll let you host a comedy class and
we'll give you like 35 bucks an hour."
Dude, I had like no healthcare. I had
nothing. I was like, "Absolutely, let's
do it." So, I I had a comedy class and
they showed up and I was like, "All
right, never take a comedy class ever
again." I was like, "Don't ever do this
ever again. This is so dumb you guys did
this, but we're just going to run this
as an open mic. And I was like, "Get up
there." And I had them all go up and
just do like five, you know, it just it
was just an open mic.
>> Well, that will work.
>> Yeah, that's what I try to tell him.
That's what I try to tell him. But I I
the one I was at was like real sketchy,
man. It was very much like I'm about to
blow up. I'm taking you guys with me.
This is how it's done.
>> And you get out of it and you go, "This
[ __ ] bro. Like, I got deals in
development." Blah, blah, blah. It was
[ __ ] [ __ ] But
>> there's so many of those guys. I I got
blacklisted from Helium because they
found out I had a comedy class, which
wasn't even a it was a fake comedy
class. I just wanted the money for it.
And uh
>> Did you try to tell them?
>> Yeah, I told the owner. I was like,
"Bro, what are we doing?" He's like,
"Love, man, just chill." And I was like
I was like I was like, "Can I do the
open mic still?" He's like, "You can do
the open mic." And the guy found out I
was on the open mic and they booted me
off that for like a month.
>> Oh my god.
>> He was out for blood. And I called him
like, "What the fuck?" Cuz I knew this
guy. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] are you
doing?" He's like, "Well, I didn't call
them." I'm like, "Okay, you know, it was
like this big thing." Well, there was
talk when they were the same people own
Cap City here now. There was talk that
if you headline there, you couldn't do
my club for 3 months.
>> It's crazy.
>> And I was like, "Come on, guys. Why?"
>> I go I I said to him, I'm like, "I'll if
you if one of my friends is at your
club, I'm like, "I'll tweet about it."
Like, I don't I I don't want this to be
competition. There's plenty of comedians
and there's plenty of audience members
for everybody. That's silly.
>> Also, everyone's going to be fine. I
just Yeah, that that's such That's
insane. It's crazy.
>> Yeah. I don't like that.
>> A young guy coming up, you're banning
him from the club cuz he's hosting a
comedy class for money.
>> Yeah. It was It was kind It was
nonsense. Now, you know, now
>> comedy class is probably going to lead
more people to your club. Like, it's all
feeds off of itself.
>> I know. And it was literally like Well,
you know, maybe the word got out that I
was like, never take a comedy class ever
again.
>> Why did Philly have a Did Peel have a
class?
>> That was the class I took. I took a
class at Helium cuz I wanted to
fasttrack myself to the host. Otherwise,
you had to do Philly's funniest and said
it.
>> Yeah. So, I was like,
>> I completely gamed it and I was like,
"Fuck it." Because these were like
people who've never done it before. I
done it for years. So, I just went and
did the class so I could do the contest.
>> Do you ever go back and think about
people that you knew in the early days
and you like I thought they were going
to make it.
>> Yeah. There's a couple people that I was
like, "This guy's like a celebrity.
Like, he's he's got it." And it's just
like I don't know what happened. They
just kind of like I guess I don't know.
>> It's weird.
>> It is weird.
>> There's a few people that I started out
with. I'm like, "Damn, this dude's
talented." Like, "There's something
there." And
>> Oh, no. Yeah. I know. It's funny you
said that. I'm like, "I don't think so."
Then I'm like, "Oh, yeah. There was
definitely at least one, if not like two
or three that I they would come, they
would do this, but they were This guy
was always on his own time. He would
like show up late, just walk on." Like
it was I think there's some people you
just can't keep into like a thing at
all, but their personalities are like
magnetic.
>> Yeah. There's some people that for
whatever reason, they never figure out
how to make a living at it.
>> Yeah. They never like and then they get
bored with it or they get frustrated or
something.
>> I there was Yeah, I couldn't imagine
just the like the there was I'd see
people go who would like you know
everyone bombs when you're starting out
at open mics but there are people that
bomb every time for like years and they
keep doing it and you're like bro how
are you how do you how are you doing
this? I would have one bad set. I'm like
I'm going to kill myself dude. I hate
this.
>> Some people just don't see it and that's
also they don't address it and that's
also where they don't get any better.
Mhm.
>> They don't have any self-awareness.
>> Yeah, that could be it.
>> And their perception of how people see
them is distorted. Yeah. You know,
>> no, that's kind of scary actually.
>> Yeah. You want to put blinders up.
>> It's pretty cut and dry though when like
people are silent in front of you.
You're like, damn, I suck right now.
This is I should change something.
>> But in the beginning, it's just it's
such a weird you're you're basically
like running a marathon blindfolded
through trees. Dude, you have Well, I I
dude if like finally when I did like a
special I was like, oh, this is the
point of it. You have to come up with an
hour of standup.
>> Yeah.
>> Before I was just like, I need to have a
good five minutes for tonight. And I
would just go up and do it and be like,
great. And I just go back home with like
no plan or anything.
>> Well, that's a lot of guys who live in
cities where you do short sets all the
time.
>> Yeah,
>> we were talking about that the other
night in the green room. Like some guys
who do a lot of like New York City
clubs, they have a really good 15
minutes, a [ __ ] crush for 15 minutes.
But when they have to do an hour, then
things get weird because they can't keep
the same energy for an hour. It's not
You have to pace it. It has to be hills
and valleys. You have to kind of like
structure it.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And then they also don't really have the
material because they're basically just
doing their best 15 minutes all the
time.
>> Yeah. True.
>> I I had the uh I wasn't even really
doing standup. We me and Shane were
doing the podcast and I was like I'm
just going to do the podcast. I don't
even want to do standup anymore. And
then he it was pretty funny. behind my
back. Went to the manager at Helium was
like, "Dude, have Matt headline." And I
was like, "Fucking dick." And the guy
hit me up. So, I started doing that. So,
I had been like not doing standup
>> for how long?
>> For like months and months and like it
maybe a year off and I I had like, you
know, I went, you know, it was like I
would go and try stuff. So, then I
started doing when I first started
headlining, I would
>> do an hour, have off for like two
months, do an hour somewhere else. It
was the most insane. It like really
started [ __ ] with me.
>> Did you have recordings to listen to at
least? I would record the audio and I
would listen to it and then I would like
jot down notes and like it it was the
most insane way to get back into it.
>> That was the thing that we experienced
after co there was a a moment where I
hadn't done standup in like four or five
months. Yeah.
>> It was it felt so weird. And then
Houston had uh standup. They they had
clubs open and they like space people
out and put masks on them. I'm like this
is so ridiculous.
>> Yeah. And uh we were doing shows inside
and I only did one weekend and then I
got super paranoid. I'm like what if I
give it to someone and they die? Like
why am I being so selfish that I want to
do these shows?
>> I like I got to stop. So
>> I had uh this old lady on the podcast
and my first thought was what if I have
it and I give it to her?
>> Damn that would suck.
>> I was so freaked out.
>> Yeah.
>> I didn't have I wasn't even remotely
sick. That was what was crazy. Like it
was just a it was a boogeyman
>> for sure.
>> It wasn't like I'm coughing, maybe I
shouldn't come into work.
>> No, it was like I feel great, but what
if I have it? I don't know.
>> They give it to this lady.
>> Yeah, I dude I had my first kid right
like March 2020.
>> So it just we got out of the hospital
and like a week later I was like holding
my face in a grocery store being like,
"Fuck, what the hell?"
>> Well, at least you could be with her
when she gave birth then.
>> Yeah, that was cool.
>> That was what was crazy. Yeah. People
were dying alone cuz you couldn't visit
them while they were dying.
>> I know. It was insane, dude. It was It
was like And luckily
>> when we went in for our second kid, that
was like it was still kind of in the
mix. I we were able to go in together,
but like our nurse, you know, if we
didn't have like our mask on, she was
like, I don't whatever. I don't care. I
heard people were getting like just like
like two weeks after we had our kid,
people were in there like, I got to stay
home. My wife's in there by herself,
blah, blah, blah. And it was like it's a
disaster. But even navigating that was
crazy because it was like you know I'd
tell my wife like I want to go do this.
She's like what if you bring it all to
all of us and it just I remember just at
one point being like then we're all
gonna [ __ ] get it dude. I don't know
like we I you know I did the numbers
like I think this affects older people
or you know
>> what what time was this?
>> Uh this would have been March. It would
like March 2020 and then like the next
six months
>> because I you know I would like go try
to do stuff. He's like if you go outside
we're all going to get sick.
>> I was worried about it. I wasn't really
confident that people weren't going to
get really [ __ ] up by it until like a
few of my friends got it and got over
it.
>> Yeah.
>> And then my family got it and I didn't
get it.
>> And I thought that was crazy cuz I tried
to get it. Like I didn't
>> I didn't I hugged my kids. They were
laughing. You're going to get CO. I was
like I'm not going to get it. And part
of my head was like boy I hope I don't
get it. But
>> I never got it. I worked out and I
didn't feel so good and I said let me
just go through the paces today. And
then I worked out the next day. Same
thing. I'm like, I don't feel so good. I
feel like weak. So, I just let me do
like my kettle bell routine with like 35
pounds. Just easy. Don't push it. Just a
couple sets.
>> And so, I did that two days in a row.
And then the third day I went to the
gym. I'm like, "How do I feel?" And I'm
like, "I feel [ __ ] good." Like, I
feel great. Like, nothing feels wrong at
all. And I had a full workout and I felt
fine. So, I'm like, "All right, I guess
I didn't get it." And I went and gotten
tested to see if I had antibodies, like
if I had recovered from it. Nope. Never
got in there. Yeah, I had sex with my
wife. She was coughing and [ __ ] So also
that's such a [ __ ] beast move, dude.
She was like, "You're gonna get it."
Like, "Let's find out. Let's find out."
>> That is a beast move. I I I don't I'm
like terrible at math, but I remember
looking up like, "How likely is it to
die from this?" And it was like 0.00001
something. I was like, "Fine, man."
>> I know. But they there was so much
propaganda. And it was like the thing
was we were in the middle of doing
podcasts and we tested everybody when
they show up make sure that nobody has
it. Tested all the employees, security
guys, everybody that works for me.
Everybody got tested every day. We'd
show up be separated. Nurse would come
with a mask on, test everybody, and then
once we have the results, then we would
allow the show to go on. Yeah.
>> So I was like, I can't [ __ ] this up
because if I [ __ ] this up, I [ __ ] this
up for everybody. So I got to be
careful.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I just didn't want my
guests like the guests were flying in.
They were taking a chance. A lot of them
were older, you know, like a lot of
professors,
>> you know, they're flying in to do this
podcast and I had to make sure and and
then someone ratted us out.
>> So the health department showed up at
the studio and they wanted us to have a
bag of masks like right when you walk
in. So we had to put a bag of masks
right there. We had to put a hand
sanitizer thing right there and then a
sign that says like what you're supposed
to do, 6 foot distancing, all that [ __ ]
I was like, "All right, but they were
saying that we weren't socially
distancing. We saw him hug people
outside the front door. That's
completely dystopian, man. That's
crazy." Yeah. I I don't know why. You
know what it was? Cuz my parents were
just like cuz you know the first time we
all hung it outside, my both my parents
were like, "Bro, this sucks. We're just
come inside. We're not doing this." And
that was like
>> Oh, my parents were terrified of me. My
parents didn't give a [ __ ] They were
like,
>> "Yeah, my parents didn't want to hang
out with anybody until they got
vaccinated." Yeah. They were real
nervous about it. They're they're older,
you know? It's like when you get older,
you know, like that's why a lot of these
people like the the Neil Young's and
Howard Sterns and all those people that
really freaked out about it, they're
older people. Yeah.
>> So to them, they're looking at they
might be that 1% that dies.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I mean? Whereas like
you're young and healthy, you work out,
you'll be you'll probably be fine.
You'll be okay. Your wife's healthy,
you'll be fine. When you're an old
person and you you you smell death in
the air already.
>> Yeah.
>> Every day every day you wake up you're
like your [ __ ] back hurts. Oh Jesus.
You can barely get out of bed. [ __ ]
your feet are swollen. Like it could get
you.
>> Yeah. It's crazy. I'm surprised my my my
parents are like, you know, I think
they're like going to be 70 soon. They
were just kind of like
>> we don't give a [ __ ] man.
>> Depends on where you grew up. I think
that's what it was, man. They were just
kind of like, you know, they're all just
like [ __ ] that. You know, it's [ __ ]
No matter what it was, they were it was
[ __ ] [ __ ]
>> Yeah. If you grow up hard, you're not
worried about a cough.
>> Yeah. They weren't I I remember I
finally got it. I finally got it. And
Dude, it kind of like rocks me the first
day. I had talked so much [ __ ] and I got
it. I was like, "Bro, if I die, this is
going to suck so bad." It's like, but we
got it. Me and my wife got it two days
later. So then I had, you know, a little
kid. So I had to like we just switched
off. I kind of was like recovered
enough. So we were Our kid never got it
>> was around us.
>> Kids can go right through it. My my um
both of my kids got it and they just
burned through it. One of them had it
more, but she's like a little more
sensitive. She she was pretty sick for a
couple days. Not pretty, not like scary,
but like she didn't feel good for a
couple days. The other one like barely
had it. It like went right through her.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The one didn't get it all.
The one like a runny nose. I was like in
bed for three straight days just like
>> hurting.
>> Super fever, hurting.
>> Were you taking any vitamins at the
time?
>> No. At the time I wasn't living very
healthy.
>> That's the thing. Yeah, I'm all over the
vitamins. And I was all over the
vitamins then. And my wife back then, I
don't think not so much.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't think she did as much. So when I
was around everybody that got it, it
just never got to me.
>> Yeah. No, I was got And I We had like,
you know, relative newborn kind of
situation going on. And it was just
>> That's a hard one. Your immune system is
going to be crushed anyway because
you're getting zero sleep.
>> Yeah.
>> Everybody's like ready to fall asleep at
any given time watching TV.
>> I've never recovered. I'm still ready to
pass out. Like I can fall asleep. I go
home and I'm I'm fried. I take naps.
That was a big thing for coffee. Now I
can take naps during the day. I can't
take naps when I drink coffee.
>> Oh, I never take naps.
>> Oh, I love them, man. A little siesta.
>> The only time I ever take a nap is if I
have to do something really early in the
morning. So, like if I do a set at night
and I'm not home until like 12:30 and
like maybe I have to get up at 6 or
something,
>> I'll take a little nap.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> just because for me there's a balance of
like what is what's more important?
Getting things done, working out, or not
getting into a deficit? And for me, it's
not getting into a deficit. Cuz when I
like if I do a podcast and I'm sleepy, I
get so mad at myself. I'm like, what are
you doing? Like this is your one job.
>> Be awake and talk to people.
>> Sleepy like a toddler. Just
>> Oh, wow. That's cool. So, how long were
you in Indonesia for?
>> It is embarrassing. You're like, "What
the fuck?"
>> It's the worst. And then I'm just
drinking coffee and energy drinks and
taking nicotine pouches and just trying
to fire the brain up.
>> Yeah. Then I when I do that, my face
just gets hot and I'm just anxious. It's
like that's why especially for shows
like I try to travel like I leave like
on an early early flight, get where I'm
going and just take a big nap
>> and then I wake up and go do the show.
>> One thing that I started doing when I
was on the road a lot was I would go in
on Thursday if I had a show on Friday.
Yeah.
>> So, I would get in Thursday night,
>> sleep,
>> and then instead of flying in the day of
the show cuz you're always a little
foggy. You're, you know, it's hard to
>> and back then I wasn't on the neutropics
as much. I wasn't like taking it with me
on the road, you know, brain vitamins
and [ __ ] like Alpha Brain,
>> but now I don't [ __ ] around. I don't
travel without that stuff.
>> Yeah. No, you do need I I do the day of.
I I can't help it. I just go early, nap.
I did a show in Vegas last weekend that
like it didn't start till 1000 p.m.
Vegas time.
>> I got there I was It was brutal. I got
there, took a nap, woke up at like 900
p.m. Vegas time. It was just like uh I
felt like a bug. You know what my uh
trick for that is? The moment you land,
the moment you land, put your [ __ ] in
your hotel room, go straight to the gym.
>> Yeah.
>> No ifs or buts about it. You got to get
a workout in and got to sweat. Like
really sweat. just really get it going.
>> Do do some push-ups, whatever the [ __ ]
you want to do, but just really sweat
>> and then it feels like it resets your
system. I can see that. That would wake
you up and kind of calm you down. Yeah,
it it resets your system. Like whatever
the [ __ ] happens when you're on a plane,
when you get off, you just like,
>> dude, I feel like I've been microwaved.
I get off a plane.
>> Well, you have been kind of.
>> Yeah, pretty much. I feel I smell weird.
>> It's like a X-ray. You're getting X-ray.
>> Oh, [ __ ]
>> Try not to. The other day I was like,
maybe it's like good for me somehow. I'm
up here and it's like it's just like
constricting my blood vessels and they
like
>> turning into a superhero.
>> Well, I I like was in Denver and I ran,
you know, recently I was like running
and working out in Denver and I was like
probably altered now. I did like a
30-minute workout. I'm like I'm probably
totally different now. Well, I lived
above Boulder for a while.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. And then uh I had a gig in Philly,
so uh I was living up there for a couple
of months. I was living at 8,500 feet
above sea level and I'd work out up
there. And then when I'd go down to
Boulder at 5,500, I had all this
endurance. I was like, "This is crazy."
>> Oh, in Denver. Yeah. From Boulder to
Denver, you're saying?
>> No. From where I was, I was in the
mountains above Boulder. And so I'd go
down to Boulder. Got Boulder's like 55,
57, whatever it is. But I was at 85.
>> Damn.
>> Yeah. 8,500 feet above sea level.
>> Yeah. That's a lot.
>> So then I went I did a gig in Philly and
I went to the gym and I remember I
called my friend. I'm like, "Dude, I
feel like I could run through a [ __ ]
wall.
>> Damn, I want that so bad." That's what
why a lot of athletes train like they
they go to Big Bear in California. They
train up there.
>> Damn. I kind of Yeah, I got I got to do
it for like just once and I was like,
"Dude, this is awesome."
>> Yeah. If you can live at altitude and
train at altitude and then go down to
sea level, you feel like you have
superpower.
>> [ __ ] that's awesome.
>> So, a lot of endurance athletes, like
that's why they put the Olympic training
center in Colorado Springs.
>> That makes sense.
>> Yeah. Like training at altitude is a
legit hack.
>> Yeah. I didn't I didn't realize like cuz
I've always wondered like why is it so
hard? And it's literally just the air
thins and there's less oxygen. It's that
simple.
>> And then your body has to adapt so you
get more red blood cells. That's why
they take EPO. That's what EPO does for
you.
>> Oh, you don't have to go to altitude.
>> Well, um I think a lot of them do both,
you know? They just go as hard as they
push it to that like how much before I
get a stroke.
>> True.
>> I'm trying to win a gold medal. I'm
trying to win the tour to France.
>> Dude, I just started I started sprinting
again. like
>> sprinting
>> sprinting just all out total sprints and
just to like see where I was at because
I'm like you know I'm like if I feel
like if you just stop you could feel
that like you know age creep in a little
bit and there's a lot I think there's a
lot of mental stuff to be like ah you
know man it just [ __ ] goes but like
you know if you're not like testing it
you know how do you know you're just not
letting yourself go anyway? So I like I
was like doing it I haven't been running
like that in forever and dude like my
fingertips would be numb. I would do 100
I would do I would do 100 meter sprints
and I like can't feel my hand.
Now I can.
>> Now I can. I fixed it. And now I because
you like grow new veins and [ __ ]
>> I swear to God it's true.
>> Are you a doctor?
>> I don't know. I just I have grock, dude.
We're all equal now.
>> But dude, I remember like let me see
where I'm at. And I was like,
>> "Bro, you really do. You use it or lose
it, man." And I can run now. I did it
this morning. I I can sprint now and
like I don't get numb.
>> It's pretty awesome.
>> How do you do it? Do you go to a track?
>> I have a track. Yeah. A track near my
house and I just [ __ ] bolt early.
Super early in the morning. You feel
amazing.
>> Wow.
>> All day.
>> And so you just pick a certain amount of
distance you're going to run.
>> Yeah. I'll do like some day like today I
did like two 300s, two 200s and then
like we're supposed to do four 150s. I
got two and I was like I'm tapped.
>> So you're done at like 15 20 minutes.
>> You're you're done. You go there. I'm
I'm there at like 6:00 and I'm done in
20 minutes and I'm I'm You feel like
it's like you were talking about you run
to a city and just get like an allout
workout.
>> Yeah. you feel like like you're walking
on air for the rest of the day.
>> That makes sense. There was a study
recently about explosive exercise and
that that's one of the things that's
lacking in like older people as they get
older, they stop doing any kind of
explosive exercise like sprinting.
>> Yeah.
>> And how beneficial that is for
maintaining your health and your ability
to move around.
>> Dude, I'm telling you, like I I that was
like such a drastic thing, but I was
like, damn, this my circulation is like
going like I can't [ __ ] run without
my hands feeling all like pins and
needley. That's so weird.
>> And it just they came back. Now I can do
it. My fingers feel fine.
>> You get in shape.
>> Yeah. It's pretty nuts cuz that that was
the thing. Cardio was always like
cardio's dumb. Who cares? And then
you're like I learned I think it just
like you secrete growth hormone and then
your veins and capillaries start like
you get literally you get like new and
wider veins.
>> Make sense?
>> It's pretty cool.
>> Makes sense. I mean your heart is
[ __ ] pounding out of your chest.
Yeah.
>> You're hitting 180 beats per minute.
It's like [ __ ] forcing all that [ __ ]
through.
just clearing it out like all right
let's what are we holding on to right
now
>> see like you never got fat or you never
got like really badly out of shape when
you see a guy like Jelly Roll like I
have so much respect for that man
>> I have so much respect for that man that
dude lost 300 lb
>> dude how
>> he lost 300 pounds no ompic just stopped
eating sugar was no oicmp
he's he took testosterone replacement
that's That's [ __ ] sick.
>> Sick. He started off. I was like, he's
got to be on those epic.
>> He started off just walking, man.
>> That's awesome.
>> Just trying to walk when he came here.
We last time we did a podcast, he ran I
forget. I think he ran 6.2 miles the day
before.
>> So they ran like they he was deer
hunting down in South Texas and he was
with my friend Cam Haynes and they went
on a run. They did 6.2 miles. They ran
and hills and [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> And then he came in here uh before the
podcast he ran 2.6. six on the
treadmill. So, I was working out and he
was over there running and talking and
laughing. Look how good he looks.
>> Yeah.
>> How crazy is that?
>> [ __ ] nuts.
>> It's amazing. It's amazing.
>> And we did the whole deal. We did the
sauna afterwards. It was awesome.
>> How long How long did he lose it? Three
years.
>> Three years.
>> God damn. That's crazy.
>> And he did it the right way. He did it
the hard way. Just working out and
eating right. No sugar, no [ __ ]
eating clean food. and just slowly let
his body drop. I
>> mean, he's got to feel and he's got to
feel awesome.
>> Yeah, it's got to be amazing.
>> Damn. How does he say that's doing like
career-wise if he has like a persona and
he's know like this, you know? I guess
it's fant.
>> He's got an amazing voice.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, the the amazing voice is still
amazing.
>> Yeah. Well, it your voice changes with
fluctuation with weight a little bit.
Yeah. I'm sure.
>> How does it change?
>> I don't know. I've heard like if you're
like an alto or something like that and
you're a certain you're at a certain
weight, it can change if you kind of cuz
this is your your diaphragm I guess in
your stomach.
>> I know some dudes who lost a lot of
weight and they didn't like the way they
look when they were thin cuz their head
was too big.
>> Yeah.
>> Ain't that weird? Yeah.
>> Like your head gets big when you get
heavier.
>> Yeah. They Oh, it just grows. Yeah, it
makes sense if it grows your [ __ ]
body.
>> Significant weight loss can change a
person's voice, often making it sound
higher pitched, lighter, or clear due to
reduced fat accumulation around the
larynx, throat, and chest. These
physical changes decrease pressure on
the vocal cords, improving breathing,
resonance, and reducing the effort
required to produce sound.
>> So, it makes you a better singer.
>> But does it though? Because like opera
singers, aren't they all fat?
>> I think so. Classic.
>> I wonder if you have to be.
>> I don't know.
>> Are there any like really thin like
handsome opera singers?
>> Yeah. I don't know about all fat. I
think it's like
>> I like the just generals. I think it's
like a thing.
>> It's a cartoon. I have the same thing.
I'm like, yeah, I've seen that in
cartoons as well.
always the big fat jolly guys.
>> Fat lady with Viking helmet.
>> Yeah, it's always
>> But that sounds good though. So your
voice gets clearer, higher pitched
>> and it's not as much effort.
>> Yeah. Sounds like that's R&B legend
status then. You can do high notes.
>> Cat cardio. Like you'll have way more
cardio. Like you'll you your heart won't
beat as fast. You'll be able to have
more oxygen to sing.
>> Yeah, dude.
>> It's all good.
>> Yeah, that's awesome.
>> I mean his voice is amazing. And it's
his songwriting, too. It's not just the
voice. It's like what he's singing
about. But it's like that's not going to
get any worse.
>> Yeah. And his his fans I'm I have it
like a weird thing in my head where like
for comedy I'm like if I get too good of
shape people are going to be like [ __ ]
this guy which I don't that's not what's
stopping me but it's like you always
wonder about that. Like I wonder if
they'd be like damn
>> right.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Well that is a weird thing. Like I never
>> on stage with a t-shirt on.
>> Yeah. If you're too jacked. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like I would never go on stage
with a tank top on.
>> Tank would be Tank might be kind of
funny. Tank would be kind of funny.
Crazy.
>> That would be crazy.
>> Rich Voss used to do that all the time.
He always worked up on stage.
>> That makes perfect sense.
>> Yeah. Boss. Yeah. Character like Kid
Rock style.
>> I just saw Yeah. I just saw Did you see
the workout vid?
>> No. What do you mean?
>> You didn't see the Kid Rock Kennedy
workout vid?
>> Shut up. You didn't see this?
>> No. You said you did it off social
media, so you must have really got off
social media.
>> I'm off social media,
>> dude. It is It's very funny. I'm off
social media, but apparently I'm not off
the [ __ ] news, which I think I have
to be off now cuz I haven't been gone on
social media, but I'll read the Apple
news feed and the Google news feed. I'm
like, [ __ ]
>> That's basically scrolling, too. I I
tried the same thing.
>> I was reading about B-52s headed to some
Air Force base nuclear equipped B-5. I'm
like, what are we doing?
>> Yeah.
>> So, let me see this workout video. It's
Kid Rock and Oh, Jesus Christ, bro.
>> Oh, this must be uh Kid Rock's house.
>> Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
>> Rock out workout.
RFK Jr. works out in jeans.
>> Yeah, he's Look, he he always works out
in jeans, which is so crazy. Yeah, this
is Kid Rock's house. Kid Rock has a
[ __ ] insane house that looks like the
White House. He had like the outside of
it looks like the White House, but the
inside of it has two bedrooms and it's
like 25,000 square ft. It's an enormous
house with two bedrooms.
>> Yeah. It's all just party.
>> He's got a huge like uh hot tub room.
Look at RFK Junior's [ __ ] jack, dude.
>> Awesome.
>> For 70 on the a dine. Look at him doing
push-ups. These guys are doing the air a
dine in the sauna.
>> I know.
>> Wild.
>> Yeah. I think they go to his like
>> cold plunge with jeans on. Jeans are
doing crazy.
>> What the [ __ ] are you doing? That is
ridiculous. What's wrong with your legs?
Now I need to know.
>> Where's kid?
>> So this is his uh crazy room that looks
like a mining like cavern.
>> I've heard of a secret.
>> He's got like this. It's really cool.
He's really into pickle ball, too. He
plays pickle ball every morning.
>> Yeah.
>> That was what he was telling me. He go
get up at play pickle ball 7 am every
pickle ball. He's like, "Dude, I [ __ ]
love that's what it looks like. Look at
how dope that is. His house is so dope.
Like it's so it's the [ __ ] dopest
house I've ever seen in my life."
>> Yeah, that's awesome.
>> And it's such a kid rock house. Like the
outside of it looks exactly like the
White House.
>> That's just larger.
>> I don't want you to be distracted from
the whole milk they're drinking in the
hot tub.
>> Oh, they're drinking raw.
>> That's raw. That's raw, bro. Yeah. Um,
can I bring your attention to something
that's been happening on the internet
since we've been live?
>> Yes.
>> Uh, President Trump was asked about
Obama talking about the aliens. I got a
video on the screen.
>> Oh, perfect.
>> I want to hear it myself.
>> Yeah.
>> Barack Obama said that aliens are real.
Have you seen any evidence of nonhuman
visitors to Earth?
>> Well, he gave classified information.
He's not supposed to be doing that, you
know.
>> So, aliens are real.
>> Well, I don't know if they're real or
not. I can tell you he gave classified
information. He's not supposed to be
doing that. He made He made a big
mistake. He took it out of classified
information. No, I don't I don't have an
opinion on it. I never talk about it. A
lot of people do. A lot of people
believe it.
>> Do you believe it, Peter?
>> Well, the president
>> I do now.
>> I may get him out of trouble by
declassifying.
>> We know illegal aliens.
>> I may get him out of trouble by
declassifying. That's hilarious.
>> What else? That was it.
>> Ah,
>> what's going around the internet these
uh in the circles of these
>> I may get him out of trouble by
declassifying
Jeez, I I hope he does.
>> Yeah. Really?
>> Yeah. You imagine you can go to you can
get in trouble as a president for saying
aliens are real?
>> I I don't think so, man. I I don't think
he's going to get in trouble for that.
>> Well, what did he say then? What was
that?
>> They've been saying there's aliens. But
what did he just say?
>> He was just He just hates Obama. He's
going like, "Oh, he's going to jail. I'm
getting Hillary and I'm getting Obama
for aliens. They all hate each other and
then they all hang out and shake hands.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Though whose funeral was
that when like George Bush and them were
handing out candy to each other? It's
like George Bush and
>> Well, George Bush and Michelle Obama are
apparently friends.
>> Oh, they're buddies.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> Which everybody thought but George Bush
never engaged in like this insult kind
of thing that Trump does. True.
>> It's a different thing.
>> Yeah. It's totally No, that's
>> He was always very classy.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And especially when you see the videos
of him back in the day, like now you're
like, man, this guy's like lovable.
>> Oh, dude. In comparison to the
politicians saying yeah
>> he was like oh when is he running again
>> class the guy's a complete class act and
then you're like oh yeah [ __ ] Middle
East forgot about that but it's like
>> oh yeah well he had Satan on his side.
>> Yeah true
>> Dick Cheney was
>> true
>> running around [ __ ] shooting his
friends in the face and hunting trips.
>> That's true. I don't know. I mean that
thing is like did it was it classifi?
There's like now but then if Trump's
going to be like that he gave out
classified then he's letting you know
it's classified and he's telling you the
cat's out of the bags. Well, he's saying
I may declassify it.
>> I hope he does. I hope this like gets
him cuz that is a weird thing to say.
He's not supposed to be saying that.
Well, that means it's real. He gave out
classified information. That means
there's real data that aliens are real.
That's the only thing you could draw as
a conclusion from that statement.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> Yeah. You would think
>> I think I don't think it's I would try
like try to come up with another
reasonable way he would say aliens are
real. You shouldn't say that because
it's classified.
>> Yeah,
>> that means it's real.
>> Yeah, it is. But that's like that's such
a crazy If Trump was trying to keep it
classified, you think he'd be like, I
don't know what he's talking about.
>> Well, I don't know, dude.
>> Being like, well, yeah, they are, but I
can't say they are, and he's in trouble
now.
>> I told you I've talked to Bob Lazar many
times.
>> Oh, yeah, they are.
>> I had them on the podcast. I had dinner
with him when Andrew Schultz I I Schultz
was in in town in LA. I go, "What are
you doing tonight?" And he goes, "Why?
What's up?" I go, "You want to go have
dinner with Bob Lazar? He's the guy that
used to back engineer UFOs at Area 51.
He goes, "Fuck yes."
>> Damn.
>> All right. So, we went to Fogo to Chow
in LA and we sat down with Bob Lazar
>> and just got to ask him all these
questions. I've talked I've known him
for years now. So, I've known him for
probably when I did the podcast with
him. What year was that Jamie?
>> 2019.
>> 2019. So, I've known him for six, seven
years now. Okay. Whatever. However it
runs out timewise. and
he's always had the same story. He's a
very reasonable guy. You hang out with
I've had dinner with him a couple times.
>> Super normal guy. Doesn't seem like a
big fat liar. Obviously a scientist.
Like obviously like a very brilliant
guy. Like I don't know what to think. I
I want I keep searching for some
[ __ ] I keep searching for some
thing. He never saw any aliens. He never
saw anything. He just was backineering
these crafts that didn't make any sense.
He's like he he got there. He saw it.
The moment he saw it, it looked like
that thing. That's what it's based on.
That's that thing on the desk. That's
the sport model.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> There's a guy named Designs by Perry and
the E and Perry is a three and he makes
these. You could buy them on the
internet. He makes a like a desk clock
or a desk lamp rather.
>> So he'd have to like examine the like
motor or whatever the mechanisms of
that.
>> They didn't even tell him what he was
doing. So this is what it was. So he
worked at Los Alamos. Los Alamos Labs in
New Mexico. And um he was a propulsions
expert. He had famously put a jet engine
on the back of a Honda. Like he built a
Honda with a jet engine on it just for
funsies. He was just a just a genius. He
just loved engineering and doing things.
>> And uh he had contacted this guy about
getting some work some you know work in
laboratories or whatever. and he said,
"I might have something for you that uh
is more along the lines with your
capabilities. I'm gonna set up a meeting
for you." So, he sets up this meeting
for him. He has no idea what the meeting
is about. He has no idea what they're
doing. They don't tell him. They just
start asking him about his background,
what he did at Los Alamos, what what
he's interested in, and he's like just
tells his whole story of science and
this and that.
>> And so, they had already heard about
him. So, they go, "Okay, show up at this
place. um there's airplanes that are
going to fly you out to where you're
going. So he's like, "Okay." So no one
even knew about these airplanes back
then. Now it's been confirmed that
there's a bunch of airplanes right
outside of Mandalay Bay. You could see
these airplanes that they fly the
employees uh that work in Area 51 and
they live in Las Vegas. They just fly
them out there. But nobody knew about
this in 1989 when he was talking about
it when he blew the whistle on it.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And so they fly him out there. They, you
know, show him how everything works for
a couple days in terms of like how the
base works and where you have access to,
what you don't have access to. They
bring him this guy that is his co-orker
that was there before and then it was
kind of going to show him the ropes
>> and then a couple days in they bring him
into a hanger and there's that thing and
it has American flag sticker on it and
so he goes, "Oh, these are ours." He's
like, "Oh my god, no wonder why people
are seeing these things. This is
something that we have."
>> So then they tell him essentially, "Tell
us how it works."
>> He's like, "What is this, a test? Like
what?" Like they're very vague about
everything.
>> No one's telling him where it came from.
No one's telling him anything. And then
he realizes like the whole thing doesn't
make sense cuz there's no welds. There's
no seams. It's like it's 3D printed and
you have to crawl in it because it's
designed for people that are like 3 feet
tall.
>> And there's no controls in it. It's like
what is this? And there's this generator
in the center of it that has this
triangle piece of this element that
doesn't even exist on Earth. This
element 115. He's like, "Wait, what the
[ __ ] is going on?" And they explained to
him, "You bombard this element with
radiation. this is how this thing works.
You put this dome on it, gets bombarded
with radiation, and then that causes
this field around this craft that allows
you to move around. And so they do a
demonstration for him. He goes outside,
they fly this thing. When he's under it,
he can't see it. He has to step away
from where he is so he can see it again.
He's like, "What the [ __ ] is this thing?
It's not making any noise. It moves
around. And it gives off this like
glowing light when whatever that
whatever this generator inside of it is
is operational. It gives off this blue
glowing light. And this thing was like
silently flying around. And occasionally
it would go from one point to another
very quickly. Like it could go from like
this part of the mountain to that part
of the mountain just appear there. And
it would look like it just disappeared
because it would move so fast. It would
just appear in a new place. It seemed
like
>> What was steering the thing? I don't
understand it. And he didn't understand
it either. They they don't exactly know.
He knows how supposedly this generator,
there's these gravity beam projectors
that are on the bottom of it. And the
way you get it to fly fast, it would
turn sideways and then it would point
these gravity projectors or whatever
they called it into a certain direction.
It would create this this void around
this craft and it would just
instantaneously go to wherever it was
supposed to go.
>> [ __ ] dude. That's crazy,
>> right? And so he's working on this for,
you know, months and months and then his
wife starts having an affair on him
because he doesn't tell her what he's
doing. It's like super top secret. And
so when you have the super top secret
clearance, you can't tell anybody what
you're doing.
>> So he's like, "I got to go to work."
She's like, "It's 11:00 at night. where
are you going? He's like, I have to go
to work. So, he would just jet off and
she was like, well, I'm going to go [ __ ]
my flight attendant or my flight uh
instructor.
>> So, this is all recorded because they're
tapping his phones.
>> And so, they they suspend him because
they're wondering if he's going to be
emotionally unstable. So, while he's
suspended, he takes his friends. He's
like, I got to tell people about this.
Like, I can't even work. Something's
going on. I gotta tell these people
like, "Hey, the every Wednesday I have
the schedule. Every Wednesday they fly
these [ __ ] things." And the reason
why they do it on Wednesday is guess
that's when there's the least amount of
traffic on the roads.
>> So he takes his wife and he takes a
couple of friends and he takes them up
to see this thing and they go once and
then they go twice and then they get
caught.
>> Damn. And then when they get caught then
they grill him, they scare him. They're
poking him in the chest with a gun and
they're freaking him out and then they
tell him about his wife and the affair
and all this [ __ ] And so then he goes
public and so he gets inuh hold of this
guy George Knap who's a news reporter in
Las Vegas and he tells him the story and
first initially they black his face out
and you know like so he could remain
anonymous. He's like look the only way I
could stay alive you have to show my
face cuz they're threatening him. They
broke into his house. He goes outside.
He goes to the gym goes outside. His
trunk is open. His hood is open. All his
doors are open. The car was locked. No
one broke into it.
>> So he has no idea. They're [ __ ] with
him and he's really worried. Someone
shoots his tire out on the highway.
>> Where is he now?
>> He's
>> just chilling.
>> Well, he's I don't know if I'm supposed
to say where he lives.
>> Oh, whatever. But he's he's like around.
>> Yeah. No, he's around. I mean, this is a
long time ago. It was a long time ago.
And, you know, he was kind of
discredited. They they tried to
discredit him. They said he never worked
at Los Alamos Labs, but then someone got
a hold of the employee roster from the
time that he was working there, and his
name's listed there. So someone who
worked there at the time said, "I have
the employee roster from, you know, 1985
or whatever it was." And he says like,
"Here, right here." And you they go
through the roster and says, "Right
there, Robert Lazar."
>> And there's also a newspaper article
that was printed about him being a
physicist at Los Alamos Labs and that he
had made this crazy jet engine powered
Honda. And
>> so there's him with the Honda and he's
listed in this lab that he's a a
physicist at this lab.
>> Dude, that's that shit's so weird. So,
and and then what what that guy just
said, what Trump just said, he's not
supposed to say that. It's classified
like
>> Yeah. What? Why don't you [ __ ] tell
us?
>> Well, I always wonder if they're going
to try to do like a Space Force thing
where it's like WMD is the Middle East.
We go to the Middle East. Now they're
going like, "Yeah, I think there are
there are aliens and it's like now we
get to do like Space Force shit."
>> I I think if there are aliens, you can't
do [ __ ] to them.
>> I know. But it's also like if you want
to erect some weird defense thing in
outer space so we can spy on China. It's
like yeah I I think there's probably are
aliens for the by the way like there's I
would imagine there's something
>> imagine there's something
>> cuz the government whenever they start
floating out things like I always I
assume there's like an agenda. I'm like
all right what are they doing
>> 100%
>> cuz they just dropped aliens on us out
of nowhere and everyone was kind of like
okay
>> well it really started around 2017.
That's when it started to become
legitimized because that was when the
New York Times printed this article
about it and they talked about these
pilots and their experiences and these
videos that they couldn't explain
because these crafts had no heat
signature and they were flying in
ridiculous speeds over the ocean.
>> Yeah.
>> I I remember them just coming out with
it and then like
>> just and then they started doing the UAP
thing and all that stuff and they were
like, "Yeah, there's like unidentified
crafts and you know, blah blah blah."
So, I'm always kind of like, "What are
they up to?"
>> Yeah, it's weird.
>> What the hell are these guys up to? hard
to know what's real and what's not real.
But when you start talking to pilots and
people that have experienced certain
things,
>> you know, you just go, "Wow, what is
this guy saying?"
>> Yeah. And I again, I don't deny it. I'm
always kind of like, "Yeah, you probably
did see that stuff." But it's like, I
don't know. You know, it's like,
>> why is it classified?
>> It's got to be mil I would imagine it's
military stuff where they're like, "We
want to use it for we want to reverse
engineer and use it for our military. If
this gets into another military's hands,
blah blah blah." But then they're all
spying on each other, so I would imagine
they would know, too.
>> Well, the people that I've talked to
said that Russia and China both have
retrieved crashes.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. It's not just America that has
them. It's other countries that have
them, too.
>> Damn.
>> Supposedly, this is the big story.
>> Supposedly,
>> there's uh one that's so big that they
can't move it, so they built a building
around it. That's supposed to be in
Korea.
>> What?
>> Supposedly, that's why I heard it's in
Korea. But yeah, this is the lore that
this thing is so big that they couldn't
move it that they had to put a building
around it.
>> Dude, that's that's wild. That'll be the
the thing I always think about if they
come out and say, "Yeah, there's
definitely aliens." Like, what do people
do?
>> Yeah, this is the building supposedly.
>> A giant building is South Korea's often
sighted as a potential UFO storage
facility.
>> You imagine if they just built it the
shape of a UFO?
>> It kind of looks like it, honestly,
crazy,
>> dude. do a square building. You got
>> What's in that [ __ ] building?
>> I don't know.
>> Imagine if that's real.
>> Yeah. What is this? Why Why are they uh
Why do they think this?
>> Well, I would imagine that place would
have to be heavily guarded.
>> Yeah,
>> it was just a gate. Who's that guy? Eric
Berles insisted on the existence of
aliens, but admitted he has no
definitive proof. Okay.
>> I was talking in that video I showed you
the other day who said he was going to
go look at these places. He was going to
go look in Korea.
>> Uh he mentioned he was going to go look
at the underground one. He didn't say
where it was.
>> Oh, this is the congressman. A
congressman has claimed. So scroll
scroll down there a little lower.
>> So here it is. US congressman has
claimed classified facility housing a
UFO is hiding in plain sight. Well,
that's kind of hiding in plain sight.
They literally made a little antenna on
the top just like this sport model. Look
at this sport model. It has that antenna
on the top.
>> I don't know what to believe, man. But I
know I want to believe
>> diameter. 270 feet in diameter. Holy
[ __ ]
>> Yeah, it's [ __ ] That's insane. Yeah.
Especially now with all the deep fake
stuff that's going to come out. Like the
next election we'll be in like deep fake
territory. Everyone will be like, "You
were on the Epcene list. You were on
it." No, you were.
>> I'm like I'm just, you know,
>> you could have people saying all kinds
of things that they've never said.
>> Or being like, "I didn't do that."
>> Hanging out with people they never hung
out. I mean, there was all these photos
that were fake of Epstein with a bunch
of different people.
>> Oh, yeah. No, there was there was a
completely fake videos people were
sharing.
>> Yeah. It's like, you know, so I don't
know. By that time, it's like I've been
trying to just pull back completely from
like the news and I'm like, you know,
>> hey, what is the official story of the
Co Bear show where they had to air that
Terrio interview on YouTube because I'm
hearing two versions. I'm hearing one
version is that CBS wouldn't let them
air it because like Trump was involved,
the government was involved somehow or
another because they're worried about
this Taler Rico guys, this very uh
charismatic guy in Texas that I really
like. Very nice guy. Had him on the
show.
>> Brian Simpson told me about him. And
then the other thing that I'm hearing is
no. with FCC equal time rules. If he had
Terico on, he would also have to have
Terico's opponent, which is I think
Jasmine Crockett. Is that true?
>> I didn't even know.
>> Whoever his opponent is.
>> So, I think there's rules like that for
the FCC that don't exist for podcasts.
You know what I'm saying?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. They have to balance it.
>> Yeah. Like, if you have this person on
that's running for office, you also have
to have someone that is opposing them,
right? They have to have equal time.
>> I didn't know they had. Is that true?
So he was on was he was on Co Bear.
Whose show was he on?
>> Yeah, Steven Coar show. Okay. And so
they were framing it like it was uh the
government was censoring this guy
because they're wor and he was saying
they're worried that they're going to
flip Texas.
>> That's what he's saying.
>> I don't know if that's true though
because I I'm
>> So it's the diff. Honestly, this sounds
like it's a Co Bear saying one thing,
CBS lawyers are saying a different
thing.
>> Okay. What are CBS lawyers saying?
>> They're saying that it's the FC FCC
thing. Coar says, quote, "Here, they
know damn well every word of my script
was approved by CBS lawyers who, for the
record, approve every script that goes
on the air."
>> Yeah, but it's not about the script.
It's about the humans, the people that
are on if the people are Yeah, here it
is. The show provided legal guidance
that the broadcast could trigger the FCC
equal time rule for two other
candidates, including Rep. Jasmine
Crockett and presented options for how
equal time for other candidates could be
fulfilled. So, you would have to have
equal time. Coar scoffed at the
statement during Tuesday's show. They
know damn well every word of my script,
but it doesn't have anything to do with
the script. Said they do know damn well
that every word of my script last night
was approved by CBS lawyers who for the
record approved every script that goes
on the air. Well, that's just diverting
because that's not what the subject is.
here.
>> Okay. I got called backstage to get more
notes from these lawyers, something that
had never ever happened before. They
told us the language they wanted me to
use to describe that equal time
exception. And I used that language,
Coar said. So, I don't know what this is
about. He went on to say he wasn't mad
at the network and does not want an
adversarial relationship. Well, he's on
his way out anyway.
>> Yeah. I thought I didn't know he still
was doing a show.
>> Yeah, he's doing it I think until like
April or May or something. Come on,
you're Paramount. No. No, no, no. You're
more than that. You're Paramount Plus,
he cracked. And for the lawyers to
release this statement without even
talking to me is really surprising. The
host also noted there's been a long,
very famous exception to the equal time
rule. And that exception included talk
shows interviews with politicians. Oh,
interesting. So, that makes it
interesting. We looked, we couldn't find
one example of this rule being enforced
for any talk show interview, not only
for my entire late night career, but for
anyone's late night career going back to
the 1960s, he said. Coar said that Carr
has not gotten rid of that exception
exception for uh talk show host yet.
Maybe
um CBS was worried that this is a rule
and that the government could crack down
on them. Although no one has ever done
that in the past.
>> So this is a different kind of
government, right? Obviously, it's a
very adversar adversarial relationship
CBS or at least
>> the Coar show has already with Trump.
>> Yeah. Well, what what are they worried
about? Who is who is Tyler? What party
is Terrio?
>> He's a Democrat.
>> Democrat. And what? Crockett. What's
Crockett?
>> She's a Democrat as well.
>> He's a Democrat, too. So, what is like
Oh, they're running against each other.
>> Exactly. Exactly.
>> Yeah. Okay. Terrio is a white guy.
>> He's a guy. His story is very
interesting. He was a school teacher.
Okay.
>> And um his story was that he had this
kid that was very troubled in his class,
but the kid was receiving counseling and
was starting to get better. But then
budgets got cut. And when budgets got
cut, they cut off the counseling. And
this kid started [ __ ] off and, you
know, acting out and really falling
apart. and he wound up getting kicked
out of school and it really hurt him
because he was like this kid had like
real potential and he is a teacher you
know.
>> Yeah.
>> And so then he decided to run for office
and to try to remedy these problems.
>> Got you.
>> So didn't he just get like jammed up
with something now or like they were
someone claimed they were in his office
and that he said something kind of like
disparaging about like a black guy
>> Terrio.
>> He's a very mild manner looking guy,
right?
>> Yeah. There was I I I don't know if I'm
getting my politics.
>> See, man, when people are running
against people, stories started flying,
>> but there was a it was about another
politician. All he said was like, "I
didn't know I was going up against, you
know, this like I don't know, I guess
like a whatever word he used like
electrifying black." I thought it was
going up against a mediocre black guy.
>> That was hear. They some lady claimed
that he called Colin Alred a mediocre
black man. faced allegations that he
referred to his opponent Colin all red
as a mediocre black man during a private
conversation with an influencer. An
influencer.
>> Yeah.
>> A comment Rep. Taller Rico has denied.
The allegation caused significant
backlash with all red calling for
supporters to vote for another
candidate, Jasmine Crockett.
>> Oh,
>> yeah. So, it's like
>> Yeah, that's a way to get people to not
vote for that guy.
>> Yeah. Kind of sucks.
>> An influencer said it. an influencer was
like, "I worked in his campaign." And he
was like, "If I known I was going up
against this strong black woman, I
wouldn't have known. I thought I was
running against a mediocre black man."
And then the guy responded being like,
"Nothing about me is mediocre." You
know, they they kind of
>> into what the penalty is for the equal
time rule. And I don't really see one.
>> Poor Tal Tala is having a tough time,
especially if it sounds like he's a
sweet guy who's like trying to help kids
out. And there's, you know,
>> his name's too close to the guy that
killed Epstein.
>> What's his name?
>> I keep [ __ ] him up. I keep Tagle
Terico.
>> There's a Yeah, that's
>> I keep confusing them, but I tell when I
say the the killer's name,
>> that cop I keep saying I think his name
is Tag Leon. No, Tal Tal. No [ __ ]
>> It's going to it's going to catch up to
him. He's like, I think this guy killed
Epste actually.
>> The thing is like an influencer said
like what does that mean?
>> Yeah. I mean it's I mean look yeah it's
pretty genius though if you want to do
dirty politics you can just be like
>> but what if he said I was going I
thought I was going up against this
mediocre guy and now I'm going up
against this powerful black lady.
>> That's it's not a bad I but then he
didn't he was like you know I'd be like
that makes sense.
>> But he is a black man. So if you're
saying mediocre guy and it happens to be
a black man and then that person says he
said mediocre black man like
yeah it's not it's not even that bad of
a thing to say. All he'd have to do is
just not say the black part and he'd be
like, "Oh, he's just talking about a
politician. The guy's mediocre.
>> I know.
>> Happens to be black, but he's mediocre."
But as soon as you describe him
accurately,
>> yeah, you just you're fried.
>> Especially Especially if you're a damn
man. If you're damn, you cannot be going
>> No.
>> He's a religious guy, too, which is
interesting. But also opposes putting
the Ten Commandments in schools.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. He said, "I think it's going to
push people away from Christianity." He
had a very well thoughtout point about
it. Yeah, we had a really good
conversation.
>> Also, you don't need to be in school and
be like, "Thou shalt not commit
adultery." It's like, "Yeah, dude.
They're not going to [ __ ] your wife."
Like,
>> it's not that. It's you're pushing this
religious rule, these religious rules on
people. And it's one religion. It's
like, what about people that are
Buddhists? What about people that are
Muslims? What about people that are
Mormons? What about
>> you can go down the list forever and
ever and ever, Hindus? Like, what do
come on.
>> Yeah. And it's also, you can, you know,
you can kind of summarize it up and like
just be nice, you know? I I I worked in
high school for a while. I was a
counselor.
>> Oh, really?
>> Yeah. I was like a I went to school for
social work for a while. And
>> so like what kind of counseling would
you do?
>> Just like therapy. I would There was it
was it was a really cool The way they
did it was like it was, you know, it was
a charter school and I was there as an
intern because I was I was getting my
masters in social work. So they would
have interns there as therapists for the
school kids basically so that the kids
could get free therapy at school if they
were exhibiting kind of problems or
whatever. M
>> so it was like I worked at a like it was
like an inner city school in Philly and
I would just go there and chill in an
office and they would just like I'd have
to get kids from class and they would
just come we would like talk a couple
times a week and then you could bring
their family in if they if they're like
they had problems at home you could be
like all right let's call the mom and
dad
>> this is what this guy was talking about
this is what Terico was talking about
what they cut funding for
>> Yeah. It's a shame because this this
school was like they kind of like ran it
the I guess they were getting funded by
the
>> uh state but they the way they got
around it was just using interns. So, it
wasn't like, you know, you're not
getting like the most experienced people
in the world,
>> but you're getting some help.
>> You're getting something, man. You know,
>> well, this kid that he was talking
about, he had this very detailed story
about this kid was like a good kid, just
came from a [ __ ] up house.
>> Mhm.
>> And he wanted and these people around
him were the only positive influences
that he had ever had and he was starting
to get better.
>> Yeah.
>> And then they took it away and he starts
falling apart.
>> Yeah. And it's dude, it's also like you
don't you forget like you know cuz there
like for kids when you like especially
like in a city and kids are telling you
like their lives. It's like it's [ __ ]
heartbreaking like the [ __ ] like the
their dayto-day setup you'd be like
[ __ ] Christ man. And then just
looking at you like what do I do? And
I'm like
>> you got to hang in there. There's
nothing I there's there's literally
nothing I can tell you to do. You just
got to hang in there and like
>> it was sad but it was it was one of like
my favorite if I didn't do standup I
would probably do that for a job.
>> Yeah.
>> I loved it. It was fun. That's well it
sounds very rewarding, right? You're
actually helping people.
>> Yeah. And you have to it's just like
intense. You're just sitting there in a
room with somebody and it's like
everything they're saying. There's no
like guidance. You have to just be like,
"All right, well, like maybe this, maybe
that." And it's like a I don't know. I
felt really I always liked it a lot. It
was pretty cool. But then you would like
>> you go back to the school and I I it's
so funny. I went to social work school
just because I was doing standup. I was
kind of kicking around. I was like I was
doing the podcast, but it was like
slowgoing. And I remember watching
Jordan Peterson be like, "The schools
are crazy right now." And part of me
like I always I wanted to be a therapist
but I remember being like kind of
curious like I wonder how bad they are.
And I went to school I went to my
master's program in social work which
was like ground zero for all like the
stuff he was talking about. And he was
dude it was it was literally like worse
than he made it out to be.
>> What was it like?
>> It was insane dude. It was literally
like you know I went to school again to
be a therapist but like social work you
can be a therapist faster than if you go
to school for psychology because you
just like don't need any of the science
really. you just study kind of like the
theory and you know whatever. So you can
be a therapist quicker. It's like a
shortcut kind of. But it would be like
it was just you'd be in a room with like
13 other people and they would like you
know you talk about whatever it be like
let's let's talk about like clinical
approaches here and there and it would
just right away turn into like race,
gender, who's the most oppressed, do
this and it was just like people would
tell stories like one time this guy said
this to me and everyone like I can't
believe that [ __ ] guy said that. It
was literally like nothing. He paid 60
grand. It was like like I would be
terrified if I was getting therapy and
again it's like not everybody but
there's a lot of very unh people would
cry in class. So you'd be like talking
and like people would just start
bursting out in tears like I don't feel
safe. It was insane. I'm like dude
you're going to be talking to people who
are like homeless. How are you going to
help them?
>> Oh my god.
>> And it was all female. It was mostly
female dominated. It was like me and
three or four other guys. And then like
people would come in cuz you'd bring
your case files in and be like here's
something I'm dealing with. let me get
some, you know, what do you think about
this? I remember this guy was dealing
with this like Vietnam vet who like, you
know, had like lived in Philly his whole
life. And he was like, I was just
shocked the way he talked about women.
It's like, bro, you're dirty macking
your client, dude, for these chicks. I'm
like, come on, man. It was just kind of
weird. It was like, dude, you know, he's
a [ __ ] 70-year-old dude. He's lived
in Philly his whole life.
>> He probably stabbed Charlie in a tunnel
somewhere.
>> Yeah. And he was like, he was just very
crude about women. It's like, come on,
man. Of course this guy is
>> Yeah.
>> Don't throw him under the [ __ ] bus.
You're supposed to be helping. That was
my whole point. And it was like if
you're doing therapy with people, it's
like, you know, life is just so hard and
so complex and if you're going to be
like this doesn't sit with my party
politics. I was like, you guys got to
drop the political [ __ ] man. And just
like meet these people where they're at.
>> Well, there's so many guys out there
that just want brownie points.
>> That's what I And dude, it was exactly
what it was. I was like, dude, I know
what you're doing right now. You're
dirty macking this guy. So, you can be
like Personally, I was offended. I'm
like, dude,
>> those guys are the worst. Oh, I could I
couldn't stand it at all.
>> Those guys are the worst.
>> Then they tried to kick me out of the
school cuz when Shane got in trouble for
SNL, my name popped up in the by line
cuz I they had no clue. I had it was
like a double life. I would do I would
go to social work school like cuz I just
took out loans. I'm like, we'll just see
what you know, if the podcast works,
I'll just pay off the loans. If it
doesn't, I'll have a degree. And uh so I
had been it had been pretty contentious
because my plan was like, dude, just go
keep it cool. Don't say anything. And
then dude, you be in these classrooms
and like I remember the one time this
lady and they're all like young. They
right out of college. They'd come out
and they'd be like, "Well," and I
believe this is like unprompted. She was
like, "Well, if" She was like, "I would
never personally call the cops on a
black person ever." And I'm just sitting
in the back of the room and I'm like,
"What? No one's going to say this is the
craziest thing." And I'm like, "What if
he was beating a woman?" And she was
like, "Uh, I mean like uh" and like it
was just that nonfucking stop. And I I
couldn't help it. So I would start
saying stuff the room would go into
chaos. So like I I literally couldn't
bite my tongue and uh and then
eventually they found once they they
already kind of had it out for me and
once that news came out about the
podcast they were like we got them dead
to rights. So then they they like the
student council like they all them they
didn't like me at all. They all kind of
did a motion to get me kicked out. And
uh so the teacher came or like you know
the dean or whatever who actually was
nice. I liked her a lot. She like I had
a meeting with her and she was like,
"Yeah, these people feel unsafe blah
blah blah." So I had I had to do and it
was like unsafe or they just don't you
know they don't like what they're
hearing but like they I had a meeting
with like the board basically which you
ever like fantasize about getting like
defending yourself in court.
>> Yeah.
>> I got to do that and I got to have like
a you know we got to like debate about
whether or not I actually violated the
code of ethics and it was like kind of
this gray area. It was like it was
awesome. I recorded it on my phone.
>> Wow.
>> It's like an hour long. It's I never
listen to it again, but it was like cuz
I was like just in case they jam me up.
The lady was like,
>> you know, like if what would you do if
we kicked you out? And I was like, dude,
like
>> I I'll make the most of that for sure.
Like I wouldn't want to do it, but I' I
would just see you guys, man. Like, you
can't kick me out. I'm already like
invested. I you know, blah blah blah.
And then co happened. So like they were
just hushed it all. I just got to finish
online class.
>> Yeah. They tried to give me the boot and
I remember the day.
>> Wow.
>> Did they have a specific thing that they
were upset about? Was it your
association with Shane? It was just that
clip, that Chinatown clip came out and
they just saw us like I'm sure they like
looked into other stuff but they were
like this he's making this place unsafe.
We're not safe here and I was like shut
up.
>> Yeah, podcasters and academia.
>> It was Dude, it was
>> academia that does not go together.
>> Also, dude, like I thought like having a
masters I was going to be around
geniuses. It's like they're not that
smart. You go to a place with masters
and PhDs, half of them don't even like
read anything. You talk about a book
like I never heard of that. And then
they'd show you like Netflix. Like, bro,
I'm paying 60 grand for this. You're
hitting me with a Netflix stock. It's
like I This is eight bucks a month.
>> They were showing you Netflix stocks
class.
>> Yeah, there was We watched a Netflix
doc. One of the classes we watched like
the 13th Amendment and I was like, I saw
this already. What the [ __ ] man? Like
it's the that that like I mean, I
remember thinking like, damn, everyone
was on Peterson's ass about this. He was
totally right. liberal liberal arts
colleges were like it was it I couldn't
have thought of a bigger waste of money
in terms of like bang for buck and like
what did I actually learn?
>> Well, I remember when we were talking
about all the madness that was going on
in schools and people like why do you
care about this? This is happening in
college. I'm like they're going to
eventually graduate and they're going to
have this ideology and they're going to
get into corporations. They're going to
get into business. They're this they're
going to carry this with them and try to
enforce these crazy rules. or you know
somebody like your kids having problems
and you go to a therapist and they're
this like psycho like there was we would
talk about modalities of therapy one of
them someone float it and the teacher
was like oh yeah for sure was called
like it was I don't know what it was
called it's like activism therapy where
you get people politically active in
order to like motivate them and enrich
their lives and I was like you can't do
that you can't take like a confused
existentially a drift person and be like
this is what you need to do go
>> politically
>> I swear to God dude it was there was
there was like really creep creepy stuff
going on there. And it was all just like
complete group think. You couldn't like
if you said anything outside of like
what was acceptable that you would just
get punished. The teachers would kind of
even like some of them would try to like
scold you or be like, "Yeah, okay,
dude." And it's like it's it's a lot. It
would I could see it why it would just
break people because I would like my
heart would be beating. I don't really
like conflict like that. Yeah.
>> But it was also like dude some of the
stuff you're like I can't not say
anything. This is insane. Dude,
>> do you ever talk about this on stage?
>> No, I've never really talked about being
in social work. Oh my god. It's like
there's gold in them Dar Hills.
>> True.
>> It was fun. That time of the podcast, I
would leave school. I would then I come
back to the podcast like, "Bro, you
won't believe what the [ __ ] these people
are saying." You say it on the podcast.
Oh, that's awesome.
>> It just seems like it's a great gold
mine for standup.
>> Yeah. Like cuz you have a very unique
experience.
>> True.
>> Like to as a window into how crazy
people are in school.
>> Mhm. Yeah. No, it was it was terrifying,
man. And then the weirdest part is like
after years went by, they were like, "Do
you want to get your PhD here?"
>> I was like, "No, after co after it all,
>> they just wanted your money."
>> Exactly. That's I saw that and I was
like, "Man, get the hell out of here."
>> Would be nice to be call yourself Dr.
Matt, though,
>> bro. Don't think I didn't think about
it.
>> Come on, dog. Come on, dog.
>> I know. I've been
>> shows you how many kooky doctors there
are out there.
>> That really opened my eyes. I thought
doctors were like the smartest people in
the world and I went to like higher
education. I'm like, this is [ __ ]
insane. Yeah,
>> anyone can you could be a doctor, dude.
Anyone could I mean obviously like
anyone could be a [ __ ] doctor.
>> Well, especially about some subjects,
right?
>> Exactly. That's a thing. Not like
>> Not hard sciences.
>> Not hard science. If you want you want
to be a doctor, you could go for like
anthropology, whatever.
>> Yeah.
>> No problem, dude.
>> Yeah.
>> And they can't say [ __ ] Like you can
make up you can like make your thesis on
anything and be like, "Excuse me."
Well, did you ever see what uh Peter
Begoian and uh James Lindsay and Ellen
Pluck Pluck Rose did?
>> Do you know what they did? No.
>> They they made these fake academic
papers.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I saw that.
>> Like heteronormative
something in dog parks. They were
talking about like gay experiences with
dogs have. And it was like a
peer-reviewed paper. Uh fat bodybuilding
was one of them. Yeah. And and these
they were like celebrated. these papers
were celebrated,
>> dude. It would go 100% with like the
theory, like the critical race theory
and all that stuff you cover. When you
get into it, you're like it was and I I
remember like saying this, it was very
like uh it reminded me cuz I I'd been
outside of Walmart, someone handed me
like a pamphlet and it was like white
supremacy literature. When you read that
stuff, you read the first two sentences,
you go, "Okay, that sounds legit." And
then it just there's this like huge
quantum leap in reasoning. You're like,
"Whoa, how the [ __ ] did we get here?" A
lot of that's very similar where they'll
make a thing like you just no one can
disagree with, right? And then it jumps
real quick and you're like just complete
group think.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> It that was scary to be like damn dude,
these people are going to be like these
people are therapists working with kids,
older people, you know, this and that,
you know, and it was just like I was
like, how this how is this the people
supposedly like, you know, guiding
people through life or like taking
people who are lost or suffering and
being, you know, I don't know. It was it
was kind of rough
>> cuz the animous against a person who
like thought differently, it was
palpable and like very severe to where
it was like dude. And the funniest part
was like I was again I was in that high
school in the inner city. It was the the
school was like 97% black, the rest
Latino, and they were like how would
your students feel about your podcast
material? I'm like they don't give a
[ __ ] They would laugh. Like they have
bigger fish to fry than being like what
did you say on a podcast? It's like
they're like high schoolers in Philly
fighting for their lives.
>> How do your students feel?
>> That was the big disconnect. I'm like
you guys have like I don't know man like
they they would even teach you this
would crack me up. I was like thinking
about this the other day where they they
would tell you if you had a client and
you know say your client was black and
you know I'm a white guy. I should lead
by going like how do you feel about the
fact that I'm white and you're black? I
was like dude you guys realize you're in
a classroom studying how to talk to a
black person. And I'm like, that's
[ __ ] weird.
>> I was like, just talk to like you can
just talk to them, man. And if that
comes up, you can tackle it.
>> I'm like, you're uncomfortable. And then
you're going like, so black person, how
do you feel that I'm white? It's like,
dude, that is And they would push back
against me. I'm like, no, no, you guys
can't do that. That's crazy.
>> Well, you were actually applying it in
the real world. They were just
exhibiting. They were just hanging out
in these circle jerks.
>> Exactly. And a lot of them would be
like, you know, I'm social justice,
blah, blah, blah. And like, all right,
where's your field placement? That was
like your, you know, um, that was like
your internship. and they're like, "Oh,
I'm out in like the the main line's like
a really nice area in Philly." It's
like, "I'm doing like a high school on
the main line." It's like, "Okay,
dudes." Like, you know, it's like, "Take
that act somewhere else." And it's like
like those kids don't want to hear any
of this [ __ ] like at all. And I would
like you to talk to them. Like, if race
comes up, I would talk to them. But like
you that would have been so crazy to
take a black eighth grader and being
like, "I'm white. How do you feel about
that?" That that would be so creepy and
weird. Isn't it crazy that they think
you're obligated to bring that up? you
have an obligation to discuss it.
>> Also, it's like they [ __ ] know. They
can see me. I'm clearly white. They know
I'm white. And it's like Exactly. It's
like And if that you talk talk talk and
then you can like bring it up cuz it's a
thing, but it's like leading with that.
I always be like
>> the least of their problems.
>> Exactly.
>> They're just probably happy someone
takes an interest in them and is kind to
them,
>> dude. And that was a big thing too of
like, you know, because they you get
them out of class and a lot of them
they'd be like, I'm [ __ ] talking to
this guy. Like whatever. And I would
just chill and be like, "You can just do
your homework." And then you just start
helping them with their homework. Like,
"What are you doing?" And, you know, and
then you eventually build rapport. But
it was just like, you know, I'm like,
"These are the teachers telling you
this." And you're like, "Fuck, dude. You
guys are guiding people into this." It
was, dude, I I I walked away from that
being like, god damn. Well, there's a
lot of people that think that like a lot
of psychology and a lot of therapy is
just complete horseshit.
>> Yeah. And the argument about therapy
being complete horseshit in terms of
like uh the academic study of it and
applying it to people is that very few
people, you know, get better. I think it
does help a lot of people though. And I
think it really helps a lot of people if
they're in a really bad place. I think
some people just want to talk to
somebody
>> and that can help too.
>> Yeah. But it's like what is the what can
you actually do for them in in terms of
like with the the tools and the
techniques of therapy
versus just being a human and talking to
a human and and and and seeing their
side of things and trying to tell them
your perspective and trying to give them
a rational point of view and yeah
>> and giving them some maybe some things
to work on. But it's like it's not a
science and not at all.
>> And it varies so much between
individuals.
>> Well, yeah, there's the individuals.
Then there's 40 million modalities of
therapy. So it's like you can be doing
like CBT, which is like that's
supposedly the most scientific where
it's like there's a system. It's a kind
of rigorous. You can have like young and
stuff where you're like what your let's
draw like a mandela based on your
dreams. Or you can just be like, "Let me
just be nice to this person who's never
had anyone be nice to them and then let
them kind of open up and like,
>> yeah, it I think they did a study one
time where they took um they let people
who weren't trained therapists be
therapists and they didn't find a giant
difference as terms of like who was
getting what result. But then there's
it's it is a skill though. That's the
other thing. Like it's a skill. It's a
hard job."
>> Yeah.
>> But it I think you're totally right
where it's like it all depends on the
person. Have they are they in touch with
what's [ __ ] the therapist? So they
know about like what's [ __ ] up with
them and like
>> cuz you can like I don't know man. It's
it's such a crapshoot and it's like
>> I think it can be beneficial. I think
like being stuck in it your whole life.
I don't know about that cuz it just
becomes a thing where you start
performing and you're like [ __ ] let me
>> Well, a lot of people feel like you have
to be in therapy and everybody should be
in therapy. Like
>> yeah I I don't know. Like I remember I
didn't do it ever and then when I went
to school for therapy they're like you
got to go you got to go to therapy so
that like you can know what it's like
and blah blah blah.
>> I like fair enough. And I genuinely
walked in there being like I'm about to
blow this lady's mind. She's going to be
like I've never met a guy so put
together. And then like I went in there
and she kind of picked me apart and I
was like [ __ ] I'm kind of [ __ ] up. I
didn't know that.
>> That's funny.
>> But it was I for real was like I'm going
to this lady's about to be like bro let
me just tell you about my I like for
real had so much
>> I thought you were going to be the
therapist first. I thought I was a
chosen one.
>> It was good though because like they the
one thing they can do is like if you're
in a family system
>> and you have no other like you know
available worldviews, you're you're
locked in that. So a therapist can be
somebody outside of a system you would
never wise ever have access to who can
let you run like things through your
head in a way you would never think of.
That I think is good. But then it's
like, you know, at a certain point it's
like I feel like you should get in, get
out. Kind of like, all right, here's
some things that like there's like like
acceptance commitment therapy. That's
good. It's like they teach you how to be
like mindful, how to like monitor your
thoughts without having them like
completely attack. There's like there
are like skills you can learn.
>> Yeah.
>> But it's like, dude, [ __ ] And the
money of it is crazy. Like that's the
other thing. Like it's so expensive,
>> right? And does insurance pay for it for
most people? How does it
>> depends like it it'll cover it for some?
You have to be you have to get a
therapist in that network and then they
have to diagnose you. If insurance wants
if you want your insurance to cover you
that therapist has to diagnose you with
a mental disord or some sort of mental
thing.
>> Oh, and do they have to prescribe
something for you?
>> They don't I don't think they have to
prescribe. No, but it's like
interesting.
>> Do they have to just give you a like,
you know, your bipolar adjustment
disorder is the one where it's like
>> but with psychiatrists like I wonder how
many of them are just like incentivized
to put you on something.
>> Probably a ton. They're just like
doctors,
>> right? So, and then some of them just
swear by it. They're like, "Just take
this, take that, take this."
>> Yeah. I have a friend who went to a
psychiatrist and he said that like
immediately, like first meeting, this
guy's trying to put him on
anti-depressants.
>> Yeah.
>> And he's like, "Well, I don't think I
need that. Like, I'm not that [ __ ] up.
>> I'm just not happy."
>> Yeah.
>> I'm sad.
>> It's also the first meeting is crazy
because it's like, "Let's see what your
life's about." Like,
>> no. He's like, "Let's get you on this
and it'll make you feel better
>> and then we'll work from there." Like,
>> well, some of those guys are like
ruthless materialists where you're like,
"Yeah, your brain's just [ __ ] up,
dude. Who cares?" Cuz that like uh Did
you ever see the Sapowski guy?
>> Yeah, Robert. I think he's great. I
loved his lectures, but his last book,
>> and again, this was like from him
promoting it. I didn't read it, but his
argument was like, "Yeah, we just all
have different brains, and if you're
like,
>> you know, if you're like a [ __ ] home
invader or a burglar, it's just your
genes suck." And like, we shouldn't ever
punish anybody. We should just kind of
like keep people aside and just
rehabilitate. basically saying like you
have no choice over what you do at all.
Free will is complete illusion.
>> Yeah. The the determinism argument.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I don't know about that argument.
I mean obviously free will is real but
obviously you are affected by your
genes, your life circumstances, your
past behavior, your all the experiences
that you've had. There's a lot of
factors to say that will doesn't mean
anything. Well then why is inspiration
so important?
>> Yeah.
>> Why do people love inspiration? Why do
people love like a good pep talk? Why do
people love like a good motivational
video that gets you out of the house?
Like obviously there's will involved.
>> Yeah.
>> And will is Will is the thing that turns
you into a jelly roll at 500 lb to jelly
roll at 200 lb. Like that's what will.
>> Yeah.
>> Like that is that's a real thing, man.
That's not a it's not a fake thing. This
idea of free will. It's no determinism
that led Jelly Roll to decide to start
walking. That was hardcore will.
>> Yeah. No, I agree. And I I don't that
argument always bo I like Sepalski. I
liked a lot of his stuff. That argument
just bothers me because it's like okay
you're taking the idea of will and just
switching it with like this nebulous
like what there's like a isotope in your
brain that is on it gets switched on and
then you're able it's just to me it's
such a like a
>> just a weird point to kind of like try
to push across like there's no free
will. It's just your gene activates and
then you do the thing and it's like
>> I guess man but then you can like change
your genes apparently by like acting a
certain way. So, it's like, you know, I
that's I just never like that stuff,
man.
>> It's a weird argument, but there's
validity to both perspectives.
>> There's validity to the perspective that
free will is a real thing, but also
determinism is a is a giant factor in
how many people live their lives the way
they live them.
>> Yeah. There's like if especially if
you're in a [ __ ] circumstance, you're in
a terrible gangridden community, you get
beaten in your house, your mom's on
crack, there's chaos everywhere. The
idea that you're going to come out of
this writing vegan poetry is insane.
>> That's true.
>> It's insane.
>> No, that that's that's true.
>> That's insane. You're you're a product
of your environment, at least to a
certain extent. And usually someone
finds something that they love that
gives them an outlet and then they get
out of there. or the problem with the
determinism stuff for me is like cuz I I
I do get that. It's like, you know,
yeah, if you have a horrible upbringing
and you do a hor, you know, you kill
people. It is like, yeah, I get it. Like
if I had that had been me, maybe I can
do that. And like he's like, maybe we
should treat everyone a lot more kindly
and not punish people. And it's like I'm
on board with that. It all for me it all
stops at pedophiles and it's like so
what? We're supposed to just like
>> right
>> poo poo a pedophile? It's like part of
me is like we should probably [ __ ]
fry those guys where it's like
>> well that's one of the craziest things
about this whole what's going on the
woke [ __ ] in academia is they're
starting to call them minor attracted
persons. So there's like legitimate
academics who are describing pedophiles
as minor attracted persons and that it
doesn't mean that they're evil. It's
like what?
>> Yeah.
>> I know. And that's the problem. It's
like okay
>> especially if you have kids like I don't
know anybody who has kids who has that
perspective.
>> No. If you did, you have to be like a
sick [ __ ] Like to think that it's oh,
it's just a minor attractive person that
[ __ ] my kid. Like what?
>> Yeah. Well, that and that's the whole
thing, too. It's like we're all just
bags, you know, of like jeans and we're
this material goo that just does
something. Sometimes it's like, all
right, well, let me [ __ ] squash this
pedophile then. Let me We're all just
bags of goo. Let me, you know, crush
this guy. But it's like,
>> right, it's okay to board a child, but
it's not okay to kill a pedophile.
Explain. Help me.
>> Yeah, that's where it gets for me. all
that like determinism like we should
just be kind and have a more rational
approach to criminal justice. It's like
for sure and then it's like a [ __ ]
pedophiles. It's like yeah you can't
>> pedophiles, serial killers.
>> Yeah,
>> there's a lot of rapist. There's a lot
of different people you could throw into
that. One of the interesting things
about Sepalski is uh he did some crazy
work on toxopplasmosis. That's how I
really got into him.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. He was the guy that we first
started reading about that was saying
that a disproportionate amount of
motorcycle victims when he was doing his
residency. Um the uh the guy who he was
working with one of the surgeons would
test the motorcycle victims for
toxopplasmosis
>> and he said a giant percentage of them
have this cat parasite.
>> Oh yeah, I've heard about this.
>> Cat parasite alters behavior. It makes
you more reckless. It makes you more po
prone to erratic uh mood swings.
And it makes you more aggressive. It's
interesting. Yeah. Disproportionate
amount of uh successful soccer teams
have high levels of toxopplasmosis.
Countries with higher toxoplas. There
could also be highers countries of
higher toxopplasmosis don't have any
money. It's easier to get a soccer ball.
People get good at soccer. It's the way
out of the game. I mean a way out of bad
neighborhoods.
>> But this the motorcycle victim thing is
nuts because we know it affects human
behavior. And we also know that it
affects animal behavior. It makes cats,
>> it grows inside cat's guts. It's the
only way that it reproduces. So what it
does is it rewires a sexual reward
system of rodents.
>> And like mice and rats get turned on by
the smell of cat piss. So they go to
seek out catpiss with like a boner, like
literally. And they lose all their fear
of cats. So that the cats devour them.
And so when the cats devour them, then
that parasite is now inside the cat's
gut, which is where it reproduces.
>> So that's why they tell pregnant women,
you should never touch cat litter.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. It's toxopplasmosis.
>> And they think it does the same thing in
humans where it just makes you like kind
of amps up your drives.
>> Yeah.
>> Damn. That's You know what else is nuts,
too? Cuz you were saying that's more in
like certain countries that are like
developing.
>> Well, it's in in rural areas in places
where people have like outdoor cats.
Yeah.
>> Um, but there was one point where in
France it was like 50% of the people had
to talk toxo.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> Yeah. Cuz they have those wild cats
everywhere. Yeah.
>> And you got to think cats are they're on
your countertop. They're their their
[ __ ] [ __ ] is on their paws.
>> Dude, I don't That's the one thing like
I have dogs. I I Cats are fine. If I see
a cat, I'll pet it. But like when I see
people's cats on their countertop and I
don't get squeamish easily, I'm just
kind of like, ew, dude. It's kind of
gross.
>> Well, they [ __ ] in a box. They paw
around in that box of [ __ ] and piss and
then they hop on your couch.
>> There's [ __ ] and piss on their paws.
>> Yeah,
>> dogs go outside. They take a [ __ ] They
come inside. They're good. As long as
your dog doesn't rub his [ __ ] on your
dinner plates,
>> you're probably okay. But I've had cats
that like walk on your plates. They
don't give a [ __ ] They'll have they'll
take a seat on your plate.
>> Yeah. Like
>> you're like, "I have to get a new plate
now, you [ __ ] What are you doing? Get
off of that." And they they're funny.
But I've se every time I see them like
get out of the litter box and walk
across people's countertops, I'm like,
"Dude,
>> it is funny. I've always had them
though. I have Well, I don't have them
now cuz my kids are allergic. But when I
when I was younger, I had them and they
are fun. I like them. They're fun pets.
They're c They're cute. They come over
you and purr.
>> Yeah.
>> But it is weird that you have a box of
[ __ ] in your house.
>> And there's a lot of people like they're
lazy and you go over their house, they
have a cat, they're not cleaning that
litter box enough, and as soon as you
walk in, the
>> [ __ ] waft of piss and [ __ ] hits you
and they're like, "Bro, you're just
smelling this all day?"
>> So bad. I need I would need an outdoor.
I used to let stray cats come in my
house when I live I used after college I
lived in a house by myself in Philly. It
was like a small house and uh all the
like a lot of the houses on the street
have been knocked down. So there's only
like there were row homes but I had a
standalone row home. There's a lady
across the street had a standalone row
home. They just knocked all the houses
next to us down and like two other
people and I would let the stray cat
into my house but I just you know you
can come stay in here but I'd be like
you can't like this thing can't get in
my bed. I'm like by like three days that
thing was like curled up next to my
face. I got a [ __ ] up eye infection.
>> Yeah. I think it was called epidemic.
No, it was called epidemic curado
conjunctivitis.
>> It's called [ __ ] in your eye.
>> It literally was it. But the do the eye
doctor was like the eye doctor goes I
had only see this is like in third world
countries.
>> And dude for 6 months afterwards after
it got cleared up they had to shut the
thing down and clean the whole eye
practice.
>> Afterwards my eye at 10:00 would start
to droop.
>> Whoa.
>> Cuz the white blood cells would rush to
my eye. So I would be out dude for 6
months after this thing had finally
cleared up because it was viral. They're
like there's nothing you can do for it.
I would go out, my eye would just start
drooping. I'd be like, "I'm I gotta go
home. I gotta go home." Your alarm.
>> I would feel like I had [ __ ] said,
"Yes." I feel like I had [ __ ] sand in
my eye. Highly contagious, severe eye
infection caused by adino virus.
Typically types A 81 1937 cause rapid
onset of red, painful, watery eyes,
often with light sensitivity, blurred
vision, and swollen eyelids. Whoa,
>> dude. I would wake up in the morning, my
eyelid was it was stuck together, and I
have to pull it open. And then I saw the
movie Ray. Remember the beginning of
Raid when his eyes get all globbed up? I
was like, "Dude, am I going blind? This
would suck."
>> That would suck if you got blind from a
cat's [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] suck, dude.
>> Bro.
>> Yeah. But
>> a friend of mine has shingles on his
face. It's crazy. His whole face is all
swollen up and he's worried he might go
blind.
>> He has it now?
>> Yeah, he just got it. He's an older guy
and he just got it.
>> What is shingles like when you don't get
chickenpox and it like comes and gets
you afterwards?
>> I don't think so. I think it's a a form
of the herpes virus
>> that uh affects older people in
particular. Older people are terrified
of it. They get shingles vaccinations
and [ __ ]
>> Um is that what it is?
>> I thought chickenpox was herpes too.
>> Oh, really?
>> I always heard that if you don't get
chickenpox as a kid, you might get
shingles as an adult. My uncle got
shingles and he said it sucked.
>> Uh known as herpes zoster, a viral
infection that causes a painful rash. It
stems from the reactivation of the
virella zooster virus, the same one
responsible for chickenpox, which lies
dormant in nerve tissues after the
initial infection. So after you get the
infection, then you can get shingles.
>> Oh no.
>> After chickenpox resolves, the virus
remains inactive in the body's nerve
cells. Factors like aging, weakened
immunity, or stress can trigger
reactivation, leading to shingles, most
commonly in adults over 50. Yeah. Yeah.
My friend is like in his 60s. That
sucks, dude.
>> Yeah, that's rough.
>> A lot of older people are scared of
shingles.
>> Yeah, I remember my uncle got it and he
like he was he was
>> Is the shingles vaccine effective? Does
it prevent shingles? Is that one of the
legit ones?
>> It says vaccines like shingris shingris
reduce risk significantly.
Antiviral drugs shorten outbreaks
if started early. Oh, you got to get on
it right when you see the first bump.
>> Suck, dude. Somebody knows kids got MRSA
from swimming in one of those.
>> Dude, it was scary.
>> We got the pictures. It was just like
bubble. It looked crazy.
>> MRSA is terrifying.
>> Yeah,
>> that's all from people taking
antibiotics.
>> Or it was staff. Staff and MRSA. Yeah,
it was staff.
>> Staff is the more dangerous one. Oh,
excuse me. MRSA is the more dangerous
one because MRSA is medically medical
resistant stuff medicine resistant.
>> So, this was just staff. So it was like
a giant bubble on their hand. It looked
It looked crazy.
>> I've had staff. I've stabbed it a couple
times.
>> Oh yeah.
>> I got it from jiu-jitsu. A lot of people
get it.
>> Yeah. It's real common. Like um a lot of
people get it and they don't even
realize they have it until it's too like
Ari had it. And he didn't even know he
had it. We were playing pool once and he
was limping. He was walking around. I
go, "Why are you limping?" And he goes,
"I got a spider bite." And he was doing
jiu-jitsu. I bought him a year of
jiu-jitsu for Christmas.
>> Yeah.
>> I forced him to celebrate Christmas.
I didn't say it's Hanukkah. I got him a
Christmas present. But uh um I go, "Let
me see." And he rolls his pants up and I
see this bubble on his knee with like a
pus center of it and I go, "We're going
to the hospital right now." He goes,
"Are you serious?" And I unscrew my
queue. I go, "You have to go to the
hospital right now?" I go, "Right now?"
I go, "That's staff infection."
>> And he was like, "Why don't they [ __ ]
tell us about why aren't there signs at
the gym warning you about?" I'm like,
"That's a good point. like you kind of
have to hear about it from somebody.
>> Yeah,
>> I found out about it from my friend
Tate. Um, shout out to Tate Fletcher, my
homie. We were uh at the airport once
and I had shorts on and you know I had
just like my foot sitting up like this.
He goes, "What's on your calf?" I had
like little pimples on my calf. I'm
like, "I don't know, nothing." And he
goes, "Dude, I think that's staff."
>> I'm like, "What?" I go, "These are like
little zits.
>> You think that's staff?" And he goes,
"Yeah, you should go get that checked
out." And I went to the doctor and he
goes, "Yeah, that looks like staff." He
goes, "I'm going to put you on
antibiotics right away and we're just
going to swab it and send it in, but I
don't want to wait." And I got on it
right away and so I killed it quick. But
I remember the antibiotics,
dude, you feel so weird when you're on
them. He's like so tired.
>> I hate taking them, man.
>> Some guys fight on them. I know guys
that have got staff infections in the
UFC, fought off the staff infection with
antibiotics and then fought on the
antibiotics, which is crazy.
>> Yeah, that's
>> I don't know how you'd have any
endurance.
>> No, I don't I always feel weird. I I
also like that they mess my stomach up
so bad.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> I don't My stomach's just fried every
time.
>> Well, my friend Gordon Ryan, that's his
belt up there. Greatest jiu-jitsu
grappler of all time. He has to retire
because he got staffed so many times
that he was taking antibiotics so often
that it [ __ ] nuked his gut bacteria.
>> And like he can't hold food down. He
throws up all the time.
>> Sucks.
>> Yeah, it's crazy. He's been dealing with
it for years and he just announced on
Instagram really recently that he has to
retire.
>> Dude, I I got
>> He can't train.
>> That s [ __ ]
>> And he's the greatest of all time
>> and he just he's done
>> and he's 30.
>> Yeah,
>> that sucks. the like unanimously
regarded as the greatest grappler of all
time.
>> And he's that's it.
>> Yeah. He's he's gone like 10 years
undefeated, beating the best fighters in
the world.
>> Like time off. Can he just take like
five years?
>> He's trying. He's done that. He hasn't
competed in a couple of years. He can't
do it. He can't train.
>> That sucks.
>> It's like it keeps coming back. Dude, I
I had eczema one time and uh it like it
came up on my it was like on my legs and
it was on my dick and I thought it was
ringorm because it was like a perfect
circle. So I go to the you know I go to
the whatever urgent care and I'm like
yeah I got [ __ ] ringorm and they're
like that's weird. Usually doesn't go on
there but they're like just put [ __ ]
uh you know lot or I think when I
>> Yeah. like Lotin that [ __ ]
>> So I put Lotin on my dick and it just
dried like the whole thing. It was like
uh it was disgusting.
>> So then I had to go back to another
urgent care and it was like the second
or third time. I just showed like a
[ __ ] shriveled flaccid like chapped
red penis. I showed this one nurse who
goes like I don't know. Calls in another
nurse and I'm like [ __ ] All right. She
comes in. I don't know what that is. I
call in someone else. I'm like oh a
third nurse. Giant black guy comes in.
I'm like no
no no no.
You know, he's gonna laugh as soon as he
leaves,
>> bro. He was probably I can't believe.
Yeah, I I It was It was bad. And then
finally, I went to I finally went to
dermatologist and I Dude, you can look
it up. The Center City Dermatology run
by just like a babe. Like, it's on the
website. Everyone knows this. Who has
ever gone there? My friend, I was
talking about it one time. My friend was
like, "Bro, I know exactly what you're
talking about." She comes in, checks it
out, and she's like, "Dude, you had, you
know, that wasn't even ringing." And
then she gave me this cream and it like
cleared it right up. So, I had to show
like my [ __ ] like chap like le it was
like a leprosy bro.
>> That's whoa.
>> Yeah, dude.
>> That's just
>> She saw me at my worst, dude.
>> Hilarious.
>> So, I had to show it to like four
people. It was like a leprosy penis. And
then eventually she was like, "Oh, no,
dude. Take like it was like a corttooid.
Cleared it right up."
>> I know people that have had eczema that
went on a carnivore diet and it went
away.
>> I can't have I can't have gluten. That's
the thing. I was I'm I've been allergic
to gluten for a while and if I kind of
backslide on that it's like I'll get
little eczema flare-ups.
>> A lot of people are allergic to it and a
lot of people don't think it's actually
the gluten. They think it's actually how
they um finish the crops with
glyphosate.
>> I've heard about that.
>> Yeah. Which kind of makes sense because
like why are all these gluten
intolerant? What? Nobody heard about
those in the 70s.
>> No,
>> there was no one gluten intolerant.
>> No, it was dude weird. The weird thing
is my mom, she's always been a health
person. She got this book. She had
health problems and like it was might
have been in the 80s. My aunt was a
nurse, gave her this book, and my mom
self diagnosed gluten allergy in like
the 80s and everyone's like, "You're out
of your [ __ ] mind. Like nobody has
this blah blah blah." And yeah, and then
like when I was in college, I was like,
"Dude, like I like I feel like my every
time I swallow food, it feels stuck in
my throat. My I have like gas. I'm
burping. My stomach's [ __ ] up. I'm not
sleeping." I was having like racing
thoughts and [ __ ] and she was like, "Oh,
try not eating gluten for a while."
Dude, it cleared it up like big time. It
was insane.
>> I wonder if that's the same with like
gluten that you get in Europe where
they're not using any glyphosate.
>> No, that's what I heard. You can eat
apparently you can go eat it, you know,
in Europe and it's fine. I remember I
took a test finally and it was like I it
was like one of those like internet
blood test things and I came up like
allergic to not even the gluten. It's
like glidian which is like another
protein inside of wheat which I don't
know if it's at the same thing or what.
It's just like an allergy to it.
>> I showed I showed it to Shane. He it was
like it was moderate and he goes
moderate. You're a [ __ ]
Have a pizza. I was like [ __ ] why did I
show you? He was always like everyone's
like it's fake. It's in your head.
You're full of [ __ ] So I finally have
proof. I'm like, "What are you going to
do about it now?" He goes, "Modderate,
pussy." And like, "Fuck."
>> It's one of the worst intolerances to
have cuz the food is so delicious.
>> Like, think about it. Spaghetti,
lasagna, bread,
>> sandwiches.
>> I don't I And you eating the gluten-free
bread is like not is not at that point,
you just go like, I'm not eating bread.
It's not really good. In order to make
it good, you have to put so much [ __ ] in
it that you're like, I might as well not
eat it. I I've been off gluten since I
was like 21.
>> Wow. And then anytime I would like
backslide at a restaurant where they
cook with it and stuff, it would, you
know, [ __ ] me up. Weirdly enough,
though, if I get enough sunlight, I it
like my I can tolerate a lot more stuff.
>> I guarantee that's a vitamin D thing.
>> I I think I don't know. It's weird, man.
Every time I go to a doctor, they're
just like, "Bro, I don't know. I don't
know what to tell you."
>> Well, vitamin D is good for your immune
system, and these are autoimmune issues.
It makes sense that they would kind of
be connected somehow or another. Yeah,
because I I couldn't eat after the
gluten. It was like then I couldn't eat
dairy and then every time I'd get
sunlight, I could eat the d. It's
[ __ ] weird.
>> How nuts is the sunlight thing? Like for
so long people are saying stay out of
the sun. Sun's going to kill you. It's
crazy.
>> And now now they're going, "No, no, no.
You need to get in the sun or you're
going to die."
>> I know. I know. I know.
>> What's the new We got the new food
pyramid now.
>> I know. Well, a lot of people are so
angry. They're so angry at RFK Jr. for
flipping the food pyramid. But there's
so much evidence that this is the
accurate way to eat. This is the way
people are supposed to be eating. It's
like whole foods. Like actual food, like
vegetables, meat, fish. Like that's what
you're supposed to eat. Like actual food
that people have been eating for
thousands of years. That's how you're
supposed to eat.
>> Dude, I that's the one I That's the
stuff the backlash against him that I'm
like I don't get it, man. It's like
getting like the weird [ __ ] out of foods
that they don't have in Europe for like
schools and stuff. And it's like
>> that was always the leftwing's position.
It was like no preservatives, no
additives, natural foods.
>> I know that. And that's the thing, too.
Like I I love like cuz I have all these
food allergies. So, like I got to go to
like a hipstery kind of like rainbow
flag restaurant. That's the only place I
can eat from. So, I'm like, I know you
guys like this. Why are you pretending
to not like getting rid of like Red 40
and all that [ __ ]
>> Because it's connected with Trump
because RFK Jr. is a part of this party
or part of this administration. And so,
it became a political thing. People are
just so silly. They'd rather commit
suicide.
>> They'd rather poison themselves than
admit that he's right.
>> It's insane. Just be like, "Dude, just
give him one and be like, all right,
that's actually a good one." But it's
that that resistance to recognizing
maybe this person that I don't agree
with because he's connected to this
other person that I don't agree with,
maybe he's got some good points.
>> Maybe if a person that was like someone
that I aligned with ideologically had
the same points, I would be like, "Yes,
thank you. Yes, these preservatives are
terrible. Yes, these dyes are terrible.
Yes, this is bad for you. Yes, you
should have warning labels. Yes, other
countries have banned these products.
Why do we have them? Yes,
>> dude. And especially like if you have
kids, it's like, dude, you worry more
about that than like your kids not
eating a bunch of crazy [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> It's like, dude, just let it go. You can
be like, "All right, like I don't like
this, but that's [ __ ] I like that.
Let's let them cook on that." And it's
like,
>> well, so many people that aren't
religion don't have religion in their
life, they worship science. like science
it they they treat it as if this is like
a doctrine and a dogma and if you don't
support it you're a heretic like there's
something wrong with you.
>> It's like well do you know those people
these scientists? Like a lot of them are
[ __ ] severely compromised. They're
compromised by financial incentives.
They're compromised by academic
incentives. They're trapped in these
systems where you're you're you're
forced to have group think. You have
this top down control. The people that
at the top are controlled and connected
to these pharmaceutical drug companies.
They're pushing these ideas. Like this
isn't all clean. They're hanging with
Epstein, too. And
>> I know. Is that crazy?
>> You love scientists, man. Thank god I
wasn't a scientist. Is
>> that weird? It's so weird.
>> That's so [ __ ] creep. Yeah, it's And
the science [ __ ] is like, cuz I do know
this from going to masters. I know you
need to understand statistics. You need
like a very serious understanding of
statistics to actually make sense of
those studies. And I I never was able to
do that, but it's like you can read
those studies and like, oh, look at
this. It's a graph. Everything's going
up. And it's like, yeah, but like
>> what was like the percentage of the what
this and and it's like statistics is for
real like magic to me where it's like
it's so slippery and weird and like you
can make one thing look this way and
it's you can arrange the data in a
different way and you're like, "Oh [ __ ]
the [ __ ] thing went up and now this
is better." It's like, well, that's what
pharmaceutical drug companies do for
sure. They'll they'll run multiple
studies and then throw out all the ones
that show no efficacy
>> and even hide dangerous side effects.
They hide them.
>> Yeah. I think they're allowed to do as
many I I remember reading a book at on
anti-depressants like years and years
ago and I think they were allowed to do
as many studies as it needed to like
show basically what they wanted to say,
which wasn't even good. It was like 50%.
We had a um a lawyer in here that had
he'd worked on cases with pharmaceutical
drug companies and one of the things
that he said that was really crazy was
he found out that the pharmaceutical
drug companies don't when they get
peer-reviewed when their papers get
peer-reviewed they don't have to give
the data to the scientists. They give
their review of the data to the
scientists and then it gets peer review.
>> Damn.
>> That's [ __ ] up.
>> It's like rigged.
>> Yeah, that's crazy.
>> So rigged. Remember the study that was
like if you drink one glass of wine,
you're going to be healthy?
>> Yeah,
>> that was complete [ __ ] That was
made by a body of science that was like
promoted by the big alcohol companies.
>> It was completely false. I know so many
people who were like, "Dude, it's good
for me.
>> Oh,
>> I need I need alcohol every day."
>> They were also saying resveratrol. That
was one grape [ __ ] And it's also just
like eat a [ __ ] grape then.
>> Well, also take resveratrol. It's a good
supplement. And the the amount that you
get in supplements is like far exceeds a
glass of wine. You have to drink the
whole bottle.
>> Yeah. and you're hammered
>> and you're drunk. Your liver's
destroyed.
>> Yeah, that [ __ ] always threw me off. And
I remember I remember at the time being
like there's no [ __ ] way that's true.
No, you hang out more and you're less
lonely and
>> I think there's something to the
relaxation of alcohol that like at least
it makes you feel better. And I think
feeling better is a part of like having
a better life and having a better a
healthier mind because there's something
about people that are just riddled with
anxiety and thinking about things all
the time. There's a lot of people out
there that are just
>> they don't have the tools to navigate
this [ __ ] up world. And so they're all
a little drinky poo every now and then.
Maybe not bad for them. Maybe a little
just [ __ ] it juice like
>> Yeah, true. If you drop the cortisol at
night time,
>> just a little bit, little relaxation.
There's a lot of people that like
>> one of the only things keeping them
hanging on is a drink at night, you
know, just a little drink. Just nothing
crazy. You're not getting killing
yourself.
>> Yeah, I wouldn't want to take that from
somebody either.
>> Yeah,
>> I don't want to take that from people.
>> That's true. I wouldn't want to take
that. But it is it's just nuts to be
like, "This is actually really good for
you."
>> It's like, well, it's lesser of two
evils for sure. It's like
>> Or would they try to say that like Froot
Loops were healthier for you than ground
beef? Wasn't that one of the studies?
>> Was it really?
>> Yeah. Like they had comparisons like
they had a chart like where where things
fit on the healthy versus not healthy.
>> That's [ __ ] insane. Well, the old
food pyramid was the best. It was like
cereal, bread, and pasta. That was what
you're supposed to eat like most of your
food.
>> You're supposed to be charged on just
[ __ ] like elbow macaroni.
>> It was like that was for real growing
up. That's what it was.
>> I remember eating. Meanwhile, people in
France, they're eating loaves of bread
and they don't get fat.
>> I know.
>> And they're healthy.
>> I know. That is [ __ ] weird, man.
>> It's We're getting poisoned.
>> Yeah. Everyone who comes here from
another country is like, I feel
horrible.
>> They have a hot dog and they're [ __ ]
vomiting in a trash can.
>> All right, dog. Let's wrap this up.
>> Can I uh one more thing?
>> Yeah, please.
>> Going around. Uh Wexner's uh deposition
from the oversight committee came out
like the full video did today. And
there's this clip going around that I
don't know what the context is. I'll
show you. It's on the screen right now.
Jo.
>> Okay.
>> I just want to play it and see.
>> It says, "I'll [ __ ] kill you if you
answer another question with more than
five words." Okay.
>> Literally done.
>> I will [ __ ] kill you if you answer
another question. Okay.
>> Answer.
>> Okay. He seems like he's joking.
>> Seems like it. But
>> he wants him to answer questions. Very
short answers. I keep seeing people
saying you're not allowed to be coached
in a deposition.
>> Oh, that makes sense.
>> I don't know if this is
>> I'll [ __ ] kill you if you answer
another question with more than five
words. Okay, that's hilarious that he
thought he could whisper that. That's
crazy.
>> That's so [ __ ] up. But what is their
relationship like? They [ __ ] around like
that.
>> I can't tell. It's really hard to tell.
>> It's hard to say what that is.
>> That almost was kind of charming. I'm
like, it's kind of like sweet actually
in some weird way. He's saying his
answers in this are pretty tough
already. I can see he's like, "I had no
idea." They're like, "You stealing money
from me? ABC reported this 5 years ago."
Like [ __ ] crazy. That's news to me.
>> He didn't know that Epstein was stealing
money from
>> That's what he's saying in some of these
clips here.
>> We'll see how this where this goes.
>> Yeah, true.
>> If nothing ever happens, people are
going to lose all faith in everything.
>> Yeah.
>> If nothing happens from all this, if
Prince Andrew is the only one who goes
down and what if he just gets a slap on
the wrist? He's completely going to get
a slap on the He's not going to like
[ __ ] maximum security. He's not going
to like Oz. He's not going to be in
there like doing burpees and [ __ ] He's
going to be He's going to be in
protective custody.
>> He's only in jail for 11 hours. He's
technically out now,
>> right? But he's going to be tried,
>> right?
>> We'll see.
>> Well, see, the thing is like I never
thought he'd be arrested. I never
thought that would happen. I thought
like they'd strip him of his friendship
or whatever it is. That's it.
>> Banishing him to a and then they they
kicked him out of the estate. I was
like, "Whoa, things are getting
serious."
>> Yeah. I think they saw I think they got
to see the stuff and they're like, "Bro,
what the fuck?"
>> They must.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. All right, let's wrap this up.
Dude, it's been a lot of fun hanging
club. It's been good times, dude.
>> It's been Dude, it's been awesome.
>> It's fun watching your act grow, too.
It's really funny, man. Really great.
And you're where this weekend?
>> Salt Lake. Salt Lake City and Boise,
Idaho. So,
>> go get some tickets, folks. Go see them.
Matt McCusker, [ __ ] hilarious.
Appreciate you, brother. Thank you. Very
funny. Bye everybody.
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Joe Rogan and Matt McCusker explore topics including the comedy industry, health optimization, and high-profile conspiracies. They discuss the merits of the carnivore diet versus fiber intake, the best ways to absorb Vitamin D, and the suspicious circumstances of Jeffrey Epstein's death. McCusker also details his experiences with the 'groupthink' prevalent in modern social work education and the biological impacts of the toxoplasmosis parasite.
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