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>> The Joe Rogan Experience.

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NIGHT. All day.

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>> A lot of people have lights on their

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tables now to light up their face to

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make them look more pretty. Really?

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>> Yeah. They have like a slight like a

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like a opening in the table and then a

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light that gets on you so you don't see

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like the shadows in your face so you

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don't look look shitty.

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>> I feel like doesn't isn't that what you

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do? like a scary story. You put a

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flashlight under your chin.

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>> Yeah, but they're not trying to do that.

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They're trying to like balance it out so

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you look flat.

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>> That's crazy.

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>> You look like what you look like.

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>> Yeah. You got to give up after a while.

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>> The weirdest [ __ ] is men who use filters

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when they take pictures.

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>> That's insane.

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>> I There's comedian men that use filters.

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Yes. It's very odd.

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>> How do you know? How do you tell?

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>> You know what they really look like?

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>> Yeah, it does.

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>> And then you see them and they look like

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a cartoon. Like uh Netflix does that

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with their um the pictures that they use

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when they promote your special like the

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picture of you. They'll put that [ __ ]

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through a filter.

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>> And that makes sense.

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>> You look so pretty.

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>> If people see you after the show, you're

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like, "You look horrible. I didn't know

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you looked so bad.

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>> You look so old."

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>> Thanks, man.

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>> I am so old.

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>> Yeah. I'm almost 60.

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>> Dang.

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>> I know. It's crazy. I'm 58.

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>> I'm 40. Just turned 40.

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>> That's Those are real numbers.

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>> Yeah, I know. I I aged as soon as I had

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kids, I aged like immediately. You would

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have thought I literally gave birth.

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>> Yeah. Well, it's this lack of sleep.

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>> Yeah. That's what got me.

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>> Yeah. You know what's really good for

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that? Creatine.

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>> I I've been taking it.

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>> Yeah. Creatine. They say 20 grams a day.

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Start like with five and work your way

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up to 20 and check to see how your

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butthole holds up because the seal might

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be loose.

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>> I' I've ran this experiment. Actually,

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>> 20 gets my guts going, man.

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>> Bro, it does. It does. I don't do 20 in

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a dose. I do 10 in the morning and 10 at

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night.

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>> Cuz I was doing 20 in a dose and it was

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just like everybody out of the pool.

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>> I'm also not convinced diarrhea is bad

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for you. I swear to God. Like not

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[ __ ] for sure, but diarrhea is just

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like let's speed this up.

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>> Well, isn't that what um is that

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consumption? What is the disease where

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you can't stop having diarrhea?

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>> Dysentery.

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>> Dysentery. That's it.

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>> Yeah.

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>> [ __ ] All right. Well, if you can't stop

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having it, sure. But like

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>> Well, that's like you can't digest food.

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It just goes right through you and just

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[ __ ] constantly.

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>> Now you [ __ ] starve.

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>> Yeah,

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>> that sucks actually.

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>> Yeah, not good.

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>> Once a week though. That's fine.

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>> You know what I used to do? I used to

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drink kale smoothies in the morning.

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That was the first thing that I would

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do. I would throw kale and garlic and

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like apples and [ __ ] in a blender and

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that's what I would drink first thing in

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the morning.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And boy, that is just like that clears

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the pathway. That's like uh like you

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know when you uh clear your rain gutters

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of leaves.

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You get a hose on that [ __ ] and just

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[ __ ] blow him off the top. That's

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what it's like.

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>> Yeah, I've done the green drink before.

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It does get you I I was vegan for like a

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month and that was like the biggest

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dumps. But I actually got hemorrhoids

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from being vegan.

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>> Oh, because on the toilet.

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>> It was just that the turds were so big.

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I was getting like blown out.

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>> I got hemorrhoids from being vegan.

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>> Was it taking too long to poop or you

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just like it was just spectacular?

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>> Massive, bro. Yeah, it was spectacular.

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There were massive bull winders every It

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was like twice a day. I was like I was

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like an adult entertainer, dude. I was

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like my body just gave out. Adult

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entertainer.

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>> Well, when you think about it, it's all

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that fiber that your body doesn't

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process. But they say that that's what's

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good for keeping you clean. You know,

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fiber pushes everything out.

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>> I'm I'm back on the fiber train now. I

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was all about protein. Now I'm like,

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"Yeah, I need I need my fiber now." But

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it's it's hard to know who's right

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because the carnivore people are like,

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"You don't need fiber. There's no need

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for fiber." But then there's like

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there's evidence that fiber is good for

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you.

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>> Yeah. Isn't that what your whole

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microbiome needs to like make the germs

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or whatever that are good for your

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brain? I don't know. I I I get confused

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as well. But

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>> my balance is I eat a lot of kimchi. I

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really like kimchi.

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>> That's a move.

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>> I eat that stuff all the time. Kimchi

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and I eat sauerkraut. That stuff's

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legit.

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>> Yeah. I know that stuff's supposed to be

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good for you, but yeah. I I tried the

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carnivore and it was like I first five

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days I felt cool and then like after I

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think I made it to 17 days I was like

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dude if I had just ate some vegetables

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with this I'd be the healthiest guy in

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the world

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>> cuz it was just like I stopped pooping

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like I was like this can't be good for

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me.

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>> Well you don't poop much because there's

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no fiber. So when you do poop it's just

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>> yeah I remember I remember this whole

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rabbit pellets and you're like where's

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the rest? But I mean isn't that a good

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thing? doesn't mean your body absorbed

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all of the food instead of like having

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all this undigestible stuff go through

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your digestive tract. This is the

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argument that the carnivore people I

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don't want anybody that's a nutritionist

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right now pulling their hair out

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>> disinformation.

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I'm just asking.

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>> It's a good it's a solid question cuz

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it's like yeah does food does meat get

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stuck in your body and you need plants

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to push it out of your butt or will meat

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come out of your butt just like plants

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will? Well, that was the thing that they

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would always say that every man when he

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dies has a pound of undigested meat in

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his stomach. Apparently, that's not

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true.

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>> Yeah, that was the old thing about John

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Wayne. Like John Wayne had 50 pounds of

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beef jerky in his butthole. I I like

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thought about that since I was a little

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boy. I've been wondering like how much

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are they going to find in me?

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>> Yeah, that that's true.

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>> So, it's not the case.

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>> No, John Wayne just had a gut from

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probably beer.

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>> Yeah.

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>> You know, beer and pasta and bread.

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>> True.

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>> And you know, normal American food.

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Also, he was I mean, when was what was

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his heyday? Like 50s60s or 60s, I guess.

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60s7s maybe.

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>> When did he do that Genghaskhan movie?

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That's what killed him?

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What year was that?

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>> 50s, I think.

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>> Yeah, cuz it's like those dudes weren't

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on like

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>> True Grit those days. Yeah,

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>> dude. They weren't being like, "Oh, how

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much fiber have I had today?"

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>> No. No.

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>> Yeah. They were That was even in like

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the 90s. You The dude didn't think about

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what they're eating.

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>> 56.

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>> 56. Wow. This is one of the worst movies

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of all time. You ever see it?

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>> No. This Gangask Khan movie.

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>> How did it kill him?

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>> Oh, he filmed it in the same area where

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Nevada was doing their nuclear tests.

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>> Oh,

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>> everybody got cancer.

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>> Damn.

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>> Like the whole crew, like a giant number

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of people got cancer.

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>> Yeah. And that I'm telling you that was

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back when guys would be like nuclear

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bomb. I don't care about like they

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didn't care. Like I used to work with

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guys that do asbestous back in like the

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90s when I was little. Me like my dad,

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my uncle's all construction. And so we

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were like taking this barn down and I

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was like a little boy just like

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hammering nails into an A-frame and uh

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they shut it down cuz there was a

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speestous in there and there's this guy

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who was like, "Dude, your uncle's a

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[ __ ] I'd eat that [ __ ] for breakfast.

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I don't care about asbestos." And it's

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like

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>> I don't know. Like now I grew up I'm

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like damn, thank god they shut that

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down. But

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>> Well, there was so many things that

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caused cancer that no one knew about at

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the time. Yeah.

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>> Like how about baby powder?

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>> Yeah, dude. I didn't know about that

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either. Well, the thing is what I think

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what the story is is that where they

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mine the talc that the talc is not

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always pure and the talc has other stuff

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mixed in it and they don't filter that

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stuff out. Is it asbestous that it's

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mixed with?

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>> I thought that stuff was cornstarch.

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>> I'm not into perplexity, please.

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>> I thought it was cornstarch.

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>> What is that? Baby powder? No.

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>> So, it's talc, I believe. evidence of

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small but real cancer risk with some

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talc based baby powders mainly due to

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genital use and possible asbestous

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contamination. Yeah, that's it. But the

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data are mixed and the absolute risk for

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any one person is low. Talc uh itself as

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a mineral can be mined near as best. So

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contamination is the main worry. Asbess

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is a known cause of messoththeloma

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methyloma and other cancers. Yeah, quite

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a few women. I think there was a

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lawsuit.

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>> I remember hearing that. I remember I

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was dismayed cuz that was like I had a

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weird thing when I was younger. I used

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to use baby powder to masturbate.

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>> Yo,

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>> cuz it just like makes everything feel

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so it was kind of nice. And the smell if

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I smell baby powder to this day, it's

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like a trigger for Yeah. If I smell it,

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I'm like, "God damn, bro. Get that [ __ ]

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away from me."

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>> Well, I used to use it a lot to play

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pool.

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>> Oh yeah.

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>> Yeah. Everybody use baby powder. You use

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baby powder on your fingers. It makes

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the shaft slide through your fingers.

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But then they invented gloves

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>> and so that keeps the table clean. Yeah,

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>> this is like they're I guess they're I

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don't know what they're made out of.

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It's like a nylon like a very thin nylon

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and slick. So

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>> yeah, but baby powder, no bueno. What

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else?

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>> They're saying LED lights now.

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>> That's what I keep hearing.

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>> LED. They're saying like it kills your

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mitochondri.

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>> I think they like crush your

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mitochondria.

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>> Oh jeez. I don't know if I just get

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scared by AI clips on Instagram.

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>> I'm scared of everything. I have to

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[ __ ] stay offline. I I the I'm

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reading too much of the news and it's

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it's overwhelming me. Like sometimes at

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night time like I can't wind down.

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>> Yeah.

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>> This is like there's too much news. Too

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much [ __ ] madness. We're about to go

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to war with Iran. Like we're the

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everyone's eating beef jerky and pizza.

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Like what are these file? What the [ __ ]

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is pizza?

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>> You know who how far does this go? How

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come this never got released before?

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Like what is happening? I mean, my thing

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is like I'm not First of all, the news

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for me is like, aside from all like the

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disastrous wars, it's just so like

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negative. When you read the news is

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mostly people being like, "Guess who's a

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giant piece of [ __ ] right?

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>> You read that over and over and you get

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like addicted to being like, yeah, that

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guy sucks. I'm good."

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>> Well, there was an article that I read

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recently about people being addicted to

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outrage

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>> and then it's a real thing.

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>> Oh, for sure.

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>> Being addicted to being upset about

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stuff and addicted to outrage. You go

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search for it, which is why your

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algorithm shows you all that [ __ ]

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>> Yeah. No, I mean they I I don't know if

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this is true, but I feel like they watch

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your facial uh expression through your

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phone camera and feed you stuff if

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you're making like interested or

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outraged or whatever.

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>> I wouldn't be shocked.

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>> I've heard they like track your eyeball

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movement and they're like, "Okay, this

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is holding his eyes." And they just keep

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feeding you. I I've heard that.

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>> Probably put a piece of tape over that

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[ __ ]

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>> I know. I know.

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>> You know, I wonder if you did how much

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would change.

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>> That would be an interesting experiment.

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>> Well, they got you mic too, so they got

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your audio.

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>> That's true. But yeah, the new dude that

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that Yeah, all that Epstein [ __ ] is like

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I can't follow it. It's too much.

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There's too many names. I don't know

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state representative. They're like

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naming all these people. It's like damn,

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I wish I knew who that was.

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>> And it's dark, too. It's horrible.

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>> And it goes so high. There's so many

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levels to it.

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>> You know, Sager and Yetti was just on

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flagrant and they were reading off files

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and talking about the It's just like

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what the [ __ ] man. Yeah. It's you need

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to study all day to like follow it.

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Prince Andrew is crazy. Him getting

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arrested. He's the f who what other

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prince has gotten? It must have been

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like not since 500 years ago.

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>> Yeah. When was the last time a prince

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was arrested?

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>> I have no idea. And also he's if he goes

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to jail, if he goes to real jail, he's

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getting clapped.

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>> Yeah.

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>> He's a known, you know, it's very very

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likely he was a pedophile. If pedophiles

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go to jail,

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>> well, what do they know that they're

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putting him in jail first or they're

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arresting him first? Like, what do they

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know? Because they did a bunch of

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things, right? The first thing they do

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is they they stripped him of his

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princehood, right? Exactly.

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>> And then they banished him to some

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estate somewhere on the country and then

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they removed him from the estate. They

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kicked him out of the estate.

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>> Yeah.

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>> So it's been like levels upon levels.

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>> So what do they know? I think the royal

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family gets to see the real deal. So

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they probably saw the real deal and were

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like, "Bro, you're fried. You're going

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to jail." And he he'll he might be the

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first he might get like clapped in jail.

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>> Jesus.

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>> Someone might get royal

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>> royal [ __ ]

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>> Yeah. He might get royal [ __ ] bussy

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in jail. You think they'll Don't you

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think they have him in Do they have

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protective? He'll be He'll be in

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protective custody for sure. Leave that

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over there.

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>> They'll probably make a jail for him. I

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would imagine they do. I think anything

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we have here, I would imagine they have

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protective custody

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>> cuz if you're even if people even think

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you're a pedophile in jail, they're

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going to

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>> Do you think that starts like a whole

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cascade and then a bunch of other people

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start getting arrested?

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>> No, I think they're going to hang him up

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and be like, "We got him."

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>> Oo.

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>> I I don't believe that all these

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billionaires are going to let themselves

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get arrested. They have billions of

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dollars. Paris prosecutors opened two

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new Epstein linked investigations. Uh

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oh. To with who?

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>> There was I think it's the Jean Luke

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guy.

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>> A co-conspirator.

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>> Uh he was also died at it. He died in

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custody in

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>> Wow. Godamn. Not again.

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>> So they reopened investigation on that.

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And somebody else I think that they just

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found out that was high up in uh

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I lost it here.

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>> How did he die in jail? I don't I

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officially

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um

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there you go.

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>> Doesn't he was found dead?

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>> Okay. So,

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>> just found dead.

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>> Oh, he died. How old was he?

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>> Um

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at the time.

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>> Yeah. And also the uh

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>> 76.

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>> Oh, that's that's about the time dudes

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like that die.

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>> Yeah. Um, but they didn't never there's

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a probe and I think they they've

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reopened the probe also

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>> of how he died.

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>> Mhm.

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>> Yeah.

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>> That's going to be a tough one to solve.

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>> Yeah. You're going to have hit some

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roadblocks.

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I wouldn't be surprised if somebody

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whacked him. We were just talking about

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the guy that Epste was in jail with,

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which is crazy. Like if Epstein is

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alive, some people think he's alive.

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Some people think they they scooted him

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out of his cell, switched a body double,

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killed that guy. But if he Why would

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they put him in jail with that gigantic

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cop who was a contract killer? That

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[ __ ] guy. That's one picture. Show me

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the picture of the tank top picture.

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That's the one.

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>> Whoa.

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>> Bro, look at the size of that guy.

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>> Big.

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>> And this guy was a he was a cop who was

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a dirty cop who was killing drug

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dealers.

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>> Yeah. I mean, maybe that was the plan.

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Be like, "All right, we'll put him in

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here. It'll sound good if this guy kills

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him." Like, "Oh, man." And then 18 days

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before he died, he complained that his

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cellmate tried to kill him.

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>> What?

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>> Yeah. See if we can find out.

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>> The mur the the different guy. No,

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Epstein did.

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>> No, I'm saying Was he complaining about

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the murderous cop or is this a different

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guy?

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>> That's crazy, dude.

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>> That's crazy.

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>> Also, how did he try to kill him and not

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kill him?

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>> That's what I was just going to say.

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>> What the [ __ ] are you talking about?

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Epstepped away and just like sat in the

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corner. I mean, maybe he screamed loud

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enough and the guards came. The night

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Jeffrey Epste claimed his cellmate tried

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to kill him.

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>> So, he laid in a fetal position on the

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floor of his jail cell, unresponsive

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with an orange fabric. Oh, this is when

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they found him. Uh, 18 days before

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Epstein's death. He wasn't breathing.

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His eyes were opening. Oh, so this was

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when they found him. Oh, they So, they

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did find they found him in the fetal

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position. Oh, no. This with the Orange

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Havoc news. That's when they found him

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dead. Okay. 18 days before EP. No. Okay.

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So, it is saying that.

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>> So, it's saying that he had an orange

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noose tied around his neck 18 days

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before he died.

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>> What?

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>> What? What the [ __ ]

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>> What? So, July 23rd, 2019, 18 days

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before Epstein's death. He wasn't

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breathing, his eyes opening and shutting

15:00

occasionally, but he wouldn't or

15:02

couldn't respond to officer's questions

15:03

and commands. According to a

15:05

confidential corrections officer's memo

15:07

obtained by CBS News, they hoisted

15:10

inmate 76318054

15:13

onto a stretcher. Officials have

15:15

repeatedly said Epstein's death eventual

15:18

death by suicide was foreshadowed by

15:20

this earlier alleged attempt.

15:23

Former Attorney General Bill Bar

15:24

reiterated that claim in an August

15:27

closed door deposition before the House

15:29

Oversight Committee, which released the

15:31

interview transcript last week. Bar, who

15:34

did not reply to questions from CBS

15:35

News, said in his testimony he knew

15:38

about the July 23rd incident, which he

15:40

viewed as an attempted suicide. Bar said

15:43

he and considered it indicative of

15:45

Epstein's state of mind, but jail staff

15:47

memos, other neverbefored

15:50

documents obtained by CBS News as well

15:52

as interviews with more than a dozen

15:53

people who interacted with Epstein

15:55

before and after the incident reveal a

15:58

murkier picture than the one depicted by

16:00

Bar. The new documents have surfaced

16:01

amid persistent speculation over

16:03

Epstein's death despite official

16:05

conclusions that he died by suicide. So

16:07

he's laying on the floor and his bunky

16:09

is screaming, "I did nothing. I banged

16:11

on my door to get him out of my cell."

16:14

The source said corruptions officers

16:16

carried Epstein to his cell on a

16:18

different floor as he remained

16:19

unresponsive. "Is it was it the same the

16:22

same cop? The the contract killer cop?"

16:24

Yep. Right. He told him he thought he'd

16:26

been attacked by his cellmate, an ex-

16:28

cop who was awaiting trial on four

16:31

murders.

16:33

>> But they're saying that was an attempted

16:34

suicide.

16:35

>> Well, they tried to frame it as an

16:37

attempted suicide. No, I would imagine

16:39

he doesn't have a way to contact the

16:41

outside world and just tweet about this.

16:43

Yeah,

16:43

>> right. He can't make an Instagram video.

16:45

Hey guys, this guy's trying to [ __ ]

16:46

kill me.

16:47

>> True.

16:47

>> He sat up on the bed and began telling

16:49

me that he thinks his bunky tried to

16:51

kill him. A responding officer wrote in

16:53

one memo. A senior officer wrote in a

16:55

separate incident report that Epstein

16:56

initially implicated his cellmate in the

16:58

incident, claiming he had previously

17:01

said things that made Epstein feel

17:02

threatened.

17:05

So Nicholas Tartagleon,

17:08

his cellmate, has re repeatedly disputed

17:11

the initial allegation. I did nothing

17:13

and said he tried to rev I tried to

17:15

revive him. As with Epstein's eventual

17:18

death, any camera footage of the

17:20

incident was either mislaid, lost, or

17:22

never captured by the facility's faculty

17:26

faulty system, rather. Tartagleon

17:30

has not responded to emailed questions

17:32

from CBS News. How odd. His lawyer said

17:34

Epstein's initial claim that Tartagleion

17:37

tried to kill him was flatly not true.

17:41

>> Well,

17:42

>> okay. So maybe he did try to I mean you

17:44

know there's a chance he did try to kill

17:46

himself and was like [ __ ] I don't want

17:47

to get

17:48

>> and then his guy saved him. He said he

17:50

saved him. So it says it right here.

17:51

Scroll back up a little bit. Tartag Leon

17:54

said in a recent interview the house and

17:56

that Epstein also left a suicide note

17:58

and it even offered Tartagleon money to

18:01

kill him. What? Neither of those details

18:04

if true are referenced in any of the

18:06

bureau prison records that were reviewed

18:08

by CBS News. So, if you scroll up

18:10

higher, it says he he said he saved his

18:13

life the first time. So, it's saying

18:16

that he saved his life. He yelled when

18:18

the guy his attorney says that.

18:21

>> Yeah. Yeah. Like he's saying he tried to

18:22

kill himself once.

18:23

>> Yeah. But that's just his attorney

18:25

saying that.

18:25

>> Yeah. For sure. You know, Epstein

18:27

claimed to both corrections officers and

18:30

the source that he felt threatened by t

18:32

by Tartagleon

18:34

uh hulking retired cop turned drug

18:36

dealer who was charged and later

18:38

convicted for four murders.

18:40

Just how could you take the most

18:43

high-profile defendant ever and put him

18:46

in a cage with a murderer?

18:48

>> Check that part. Um, his bunky told him

18:50

that if he beat him up because of

18:52

Ebstein's child sex trafficking charges,

18:55

the officers would not report it.

18:58

Oh, that's what he told him. The wealthy

19:01

allegedly the wealthy former financeier

19:03

told jail officers that he believed

19:05

Tartagleó was trying to extort money

19:07

from him and stated that if he didn't

19:09

pay him that he was going to beat him

19:10

up. The officer wrote he stated that

19:13

this has been going on for a week. And

19:15

then that guy saying Epstein was trying

19:16

to pay me to kill him for himself.

19:19

>> You would have think they could find a

19:21

middle ground, man.

19:21

>> Well, someone's lying.

19:23

>> I know.

19:24

>> That's the craziest. There's too many

19:26

plot holes. There's no way.

19:27

>> Imagine like who's saying I'll pay you

19:29

to kill me.

19:30

>> Yeah. Also, it's like, wait, how are we

19:33

going to do that? How are we going to

19:33

work this all out?

19:34

>> Yeah. The guy's already Well, that would

19:37

And then what's he going to do with the

19:38

money?

19:39

>> Exactly.

19:39

>> How's he going to get the money?

19:40

>> I guess you can give it if you know

19:41

somebody you know you love, you can give

19:42

it to them, but

19:43

>> Right. Does he have money or does all of

19:44

his money go to the victim's families?

19:46

Like he killed four people.

19:48

>> [ __ ] man. You might be right.

19:49

>> Yeah.

19:49

>> So, it would have to be like an offshore

19:51

account that like gets slipped over to

19:53

the prison so he could buy cigarettes.

19:54

>> If anyone can do it, if anyone can do

19:56

it, it's Jeffrey Epste, man.

19:57

>> But it would have to be worked out in

19:59

advance. Like he would have to have the

20:01

cigarettes in the commissary. All right.

20:03

Okay. Time to kill you.

20:04

>> Dude, it's it's too uh you know, I think

20:07

it's just one of those things. I don't

20:08

know if people can, you know, want to

20:09

wrap their heads around it, but there's

20:10

just people who do things in this world

20:12

on behalf of like, you know, uber

20:15

billionaires that we're just never going

20:17

to know what's going on.

20:18

>> For sure.

20:18

>> There they do horrible, terrible secret

20:20

stuff. And they always have.

20:22

>> Yeah.

20:22

>> This is the thing. If like you go

20:23

throughout history, there's always been

20:25

secret societies and people that get

20:27

together with creepy meetings. All that

20:29

eyes wide shut [ __ ] that Cubert put in

20:31

his film. That's not He's not imagining

20:34

that.

20:34

>> No, that's always been a thing. The

20:36

officer that discovered his body dead in

20:38

August was originally charged with

20:41

falsifying documents related to his

20:43

death, but those charges were dropped.

20:45

>> H I wonder what the falsifying of the

20:48

documents was.

20:50

>> I don't know. I don't know. Who knows?

20:52

Maybe people charged it to try to open

20:54

up the paperwork or whatever.

20:55

>> Here it is. Because Epstein was on

20:56

suicide watch after the July 23rd

20:59

incident, Thomas was required to lo to

21:01

record a log of observations about

21:03

Epstein in 15minute increments. Those

21:06

notations were released by the Bureau of

21:08

Prisons in 2023 along with just one

21:10

entry he made in the log, a note made at

21:12

2:15 a.m. 45 minutes after the incident.

21:16

15 minutes later at 2:30, Thomas wrote,

21:18

"Inmate sitting on bed trying to

21:20

remember what happened."

21:23

Huh?

21:25

Yeah, man.

21:25

>> So, this is the when he got attacked the

21:28

first time that he survived,

21:30

>> huh?

21:30

>> Yeah. They claim he once he got into the

21:32

separate cell, he was uh trying to fall

21:34

forward on his head or something. Sat on

21:37

the edge of the bed and began moving

21:38

forward as if he was attempting to fall

21:40

over head first.

21:41

>> Huh.

21:41

>> He was told to stop. Don't do it again.

21:43

And he gave a thumbs up.

21:45

>> That's how they confirm he was trying to

21:46

commit suicide.

21:47

>> So, he's going to try to commit suicide

21:49

by falling straight on his head from

21:51

>> That's impossible. That's literally

21:52

impossible. in your face.

21:53

>> You might be able to pull it off.

21:55

>> That's crazy.

21:56

>> You would block for sure,

21:58

>> right?

21:58

>> There's no way you can just do a sail. I

22:00

was like thinking about this the other

22:01

day. I was walking off my steps. I was

22:03

like, even if I tried, I couldn't do

22:05

like a swan dive on the cement. You

22:06

would your body wouldn't let you do it.

22:09

>> Yeah. You would resist resist just

22:11

enough to be paralyzed for the rest of

22:12

your life.

22:13

>> You would get [ __ ] up for sure. I

22:14

don't know. I think you would just kind

22:15

of flatten out and flail. Yeah, because

22:17

guys die all the time in street fights

22:19

when they get knocked out and then they

22:21

fall and they hit their head on the

22:22

concrete. Dude, they die all the time.

22:24

>> It happened uh before I left Philly a

22:25

year or so ago, there's a guy just

22:26

walking his dog off leash and this guy

22:28

was like, "Put your dog on leash."

22:29

>> They got into work, you know, they

22:31

started arguing and a guy punched him

22:32

and he hit his head and died. And then

22:34

my brother went on an online date with

22:36

the fiance of the guy who died and like

22:38

learned throughout the date like, "Oh

22:40

[ __ ] you're the lady." He was married.

22:41

>> Bummer of a date.

22:42

>> It was pretty [ __ ] sad actually. Oh,

22:45

>> he like put it together and he's like,

22:46

"Oh, [ __ ] He died. That sucks."

22:48

>> How long after that was the date?

22:50

>> I think it was maybe a year and a half.

22:52

It's It been some time, you know,

22:54

>> enough to stop the crying.

22:55

>> Yeah. I mean, you got to pick it up at

22:57

one point. Especially if he died like

22:58

that, man. Got punched on a dog walk and

23:01

died.

23:02

>> I don't know. If I was

23:03

>> walk with a helmet and

23:05

>> if I was a lady, I'd be like, "Oh, [ __ ]

23:07

I dodged a bullet."

23:08

>> Oh, husband could have just died.

23:12

>> Yeah. That's scary, though, man. And

23:13

that's yeah the the whole thing of like

23:14

altercations and people popping off to

23:16

each other anymore is just like I was

23:19

walking down the street recently and

23:20

like you know I had the right away I

23:22

walked and I didn't even like rush in

23:24

front of the car. The car pulled up and

23:25

was like get the [ __ ] out like

23:27

threatened to shoot me in the face. I

23:28

was just like what the hell man.

23:30

>> Yeah. It was like he had pulled off far

23:32

enough and he's like I'll shoot you in

23:33

your [ __ ] face. And I was just like

23:34

please don't like you know what the [ __ ]

23:36

man what are you doing

23:37

>> bro? You never know who's unhinged.

23:39

>> I know. You never know what's going on

23:41

in that life. The divorce, [ __ ] this,

23:44

that, just got fired, about to go to

23:47

jail. Who knows?

23:48

>> Yeah.

23:49

>> Who knows,

23:49

>> dude? Yeah. That's

23:50

>> best friend was [ __ ] your wife.

23:52

>> Could be literally anything.

23:54

>> Yeah. It's like I I never It's like

23:56

Yeah. Whatever, man.

23:57

>> So many people are barely hanging on out

23:58

there, doing something all day they

24:00

hate.

24:01

>> Yeah.

24:02

>> Just [ __ ] tired. Life's in a

24:04

shambles, dude. I I don't And especially

24:06

like people just talk [ __ ] to strangers.

24:08

was like, "You have no idea who that

24:09

person is." My I don't know if you know,

24:11

who knows if this is like just like an

24:12

old construction worker tale. But my dad

24:14

was telling me some guy he knows his mom

24:17

or whatever or like you know his

24:19

friend's mom was at the grocery store.

24:21

Someone back they like both going for a

24:22

parking spot. It was like an old lady

24:24

and the guy was like [ __ ] [ __ ] get

24:25

the hell out blah blah blah started

24:26

cursing her out. Her son came out of

24:28

jail for like you know like he was like

24:30

a biker all this stuff and they all like

24:31

knew each other in the neighborhood.

24:32

Apparently the guy who had like cursed

24:34

out the mom they were like nobody ever

24:35

saw him again. So, if that's true, it's

24:38

like gee, I always think about that. I'm

24:40

like, dude, that's, you know, you just

24:41

can't be, you shouldn't yell at an old

24:42

lady anyway, but you just have no idea

24:44

who you're dealing with,

24:45

>> right?

24:46

>> Just might as well chill. That was one

24:47

of the creep creepier things about the

24:49

Epstein emails or the the files, the

24:52

data was that he ordered 330 gallons of

24:56

sulfuric acid after he'd been indicted.

25:00

>> What does that do?

25:01

>> Dissolves bodies.

25:03

>> Oh, no.

25:04

>> Yeah. Uh

25:06

>> so so they were trying to speculate that

25:07

like maybe that was for his desalination

25:10

system that he had. He had like a water

25:13

system that you some sulfuric acid

25:16

cleans it out. But then Jamie looked

25:18

into it. He had only ordered it like

25:19

once before ever, but never that much.

25:23

>> Yeah, that's terri. Also, he lives in

25:27

near the oceans. Like why would you just

25:28

go in the ocean? Just

25:30

>> you got to get rid of bodies. You live

25:31

on an island. Just go out the water.

25:32

>> Yeah, but they could find it. Yeah, I

25:34

guess so.

25:35

>> Yeah, they might find it.

25:36

>> Yeah,

25:36

>> you can't have that.

25:37

>> True. Especially if enough that we need

25:39

a bunch of acid.

25:40

>> Do they have a lot of sharks down there?

25:42

>> I would think.

25:43

>> Yeah, like the Bahamas, right? It's like

25:46

Bahamas area.

25:47

>> Yeah, I I would think so. There's like

25:48

sharks in Florida. I was just in

25:50

>> Florida. Florida's a lot of sharks,

25:51

especially bull sharks.

25:53

>> Yeah, exactly. I I was swimming. I

25:54

brought my friend with me to do shows

25:55

and he was like, I'm worried about

25:57

sharks. There's no [ __ ] sharks out

25:58

here. And we got back and the Uber

25:59

driver was like, "Yeah, this is like

26:00

shark season right now." I was like,

26:02

"Oh, [ __ ] My bad. Shark season.

26:03

>> Yeah, they I think it's the bull sharks.

26:05

They see them all the time down there.

26:06

>> Bull sharks are scary.

26:07

>> They're the ones that they think are

26:09

responsible for the murders in New

26:10

Jersey that inspired Jaws.

26:12

>> Really?

26:13

>> Yeah.

26:14

>> How big how big do they get?

26:16

>> They don't get as big as like great

26:18

whites, but the thing about them is they

26:20

could swim in fresh water.

26:22

>> So those murders that uh murders those

26:24

deaths by shark uh in New Jersey in like

26:27

the early 1900s,

26:29

>> they were in a river.

26:31

>> What? Yeah.

26:33

>> So, these people were swimming in a

26:34

river and they got killed by sharks.

26:36

>> Yeah. You would never expect it either.

26:38

>> Bull sharks are like very aggressive,

26:40

too.

26:40

>> Oh, are they really

26:41

>> super aggressive? They um there's the

26:43

Florida Keys like guys fish off the

26:45

peers down there

26:46

>> and uh it's really great fishing, but if

26:49

you catch a big fish and you're

26:50

struggling to get it on the line, most

26:52

likely a shark's going to kill it.

26:54

>> Really?

26:54

>> Yeah. Most likely you're going to get it

26:55

bitten in half. There's like tons of

26:57

videos of guys pulling in fish and the

26:59

shark just snaps it in half while

27:02

they're pulling it in.

27:02

>> That's terrifying, man.

27:03

>> They're all over the place down there,

27:04

dude.

27:05

>> Dude, I went to Turks and Kos, my me and

27:07

my family went down there. My kids, we

27:08

were we went snorkeling and you know,

27:11

the guy takes us out and he's like,

27:12

"Hey, we like, you know, got in the area

27:14

where we're going to jump in." He's

27:15

like, "Hey, there's some baby sharks out

27:16

there. Um, you know, but they're not

27:18

going to bother you." So, I'm like,

27:20

"What the fuck?"

27:21

>> Exactly. And I have like I've had

27:22

[ __ ] like two and a four-year-old

27:23

with me. So, I jump in. in. I'm like,

27:25

"Let me sus it out. I'm going to go

27:27

see." Dude, I go down and like these

27:29

were like, you know, they weren't like

27:31

18t sharks, but they were like five,

27:33

six, they were like big enough, but they

27:35

were 40 like it was like probably 40t

27:37

deep and then they were like at the

27:39

bottom, but then another 50 ft away. And

27:41

I was like, "Bro, I'm not bringing my

27:43

kids in here." Yeah. I'm trying to find

27:44

this video that my friend Adam sent me

27:47

of uh sharks in Florida cuz I always

27:50

give him [ __ ] He lives in Australia and

27:52

I always give him [ __ ] like, "Bro, you

27:54

live in a place filled with monsters.

27:55

What the [ __ ] are you doing?" Like,

27:57

because it's true. Florida's Florida has

27:59

a lot, but

28:01

>> Australia has more. Australia has

28:03

saltwater crocodiles. They have great

28:05

whites.

28:06

>> But he sent me this video. He's like,

28:07

"This isn't America, mate."

28:10

>> And it's uh these guys are throwing God,

28:13

I can't find it. These guys are throwing

28:16

um fish into the water, right? No, I'm

28:18

not going to find it. They they're

28:20

throwing fish into the water right next

28:21

to the shore and

28:23

>> it's just sharks like piranhas just

28:26

smashing and they're like off off a

28:28

dock,

28:28

>> dude.

28:29

>> They're just like throwing fish scraps

28:30

in there and the fish the sharks are

28:32

apparently used to it, I guess.

28:35

>> That's terrifying.

28:36

>> Yeah,

28:36

>> dude. I

28:38

>> Oh, here it is. I found it.

28:39

>> Nice.

28:40

>> Here, hold on. I'll send it to you,

28:41

Jamie.

28:42

>> Dude, dolphins. Do you ever see a

28:43

dolphin in real life?

28:44

>> Yes.

28:44

>> They're scary as hell. Those things are

28:46

huge.

28:46

>> I swam with them.

28:47

>> I did it, too. I was in Mexico and I

28:48

thought I was going to be like, you

28:49

know, gliding on two of them. I was like

28:51

barely wanting to touch this thing.

28:52

>> I did it in Hawaii. You jump off the

28:54

boat and you snorkel and you get to see

28:56

them swimming under. It's really wild.

28:58

Check this out. So this guy throws these

29:00

scraps in the water. Look at these

29:01

sharks.

29:01

>> God damn.

29:05

>> Look at these things.

29:07

>> How crazy is that?

29:08

>> Look at these things fight for this.

29:10

>> Look how many of them there are. Yeah.

29:12

That's

29:13

>> Bro, that's crazy. That Look how big

29:16

they are. Yeah, more than big enough to

29:18

take your legs off.

29:19

>> All right, go ahead, dick wagon. Throw

29:20

it in.

29:20

>> Go ahead, dick wagon. Why?

29:25

>> I'd be so mad if I was his neighbor. I'd

29:27

be like, "Dude, I'm trying to paddle

29:28

board, man."

29:28

>> Well, I think this is just what they do

29:30

every day, which is why the sharks are

29:32

there in the first place.

29:33

>> I think when these guys get there, you

29:35

know, when they fillet the fish, they

29:36

have the bodies, they just tuck the body

29:38

overboard, and these sharks just destroy

29:39

it.

29:40

>> Yeah.

29:40

>> How spooky is that?

29:41

>> It's terrifying, dude.

29:42

>> Yeah, that's Florida.

29:44

>> That's That's crazy. Where's Marco

29:46

Island?

29:46

>> Uh, I don't know. Where is that? Where's

29:48

Marco Island?

29:50

>> It's probably the key somewhere. That's

29:51

[ __ ] That's awful.

29:52

>> Florida's filled with monsters. Like

29:55

that whole thing that they're doing with

29:56

ice where they've got that alligator

29:59

Guantanamo,

30:00

>> you know? They got a they got their they

30:02

built a Guantanamo for detainees and

30:04

then they surrounded it with alligator

30:06

country.

30:07

>> Like a cartoon moat.

30:08

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

30:08

>> It's going crazy.

30:09

>> Check this out. Okay. So, where is it?

30:11

>> It's like opposite of Miami on the

30:14

>> Oh, okay.

30:14

>> Okay. So it's not it's not the Keys.

30:16

It's just Florida.

30:18

>> Crazy.

30:19

>> Damn. So they have like a classical moat

30:21

with alligators around it.

30:22

>> Well, it's not essentially a moat.

30:23

>> Was it island? I guess.

30:24

>> How did How did they do it? They build

30:26

an island down there. Is that what they

30:28

did?

30:29

>> Somebody got a sweet contract to put

30:30

that in there.

30:31

>> They're calling it alligator

30:34

>> Yeah, they call it alligator Alcatraz.

30:36

>> Um, what does it look like? Can you show

30:38

us?

30:39

>> Damn, dude. Alligators in Florida are

30:42

everywhere. They say there's not a like

30:44

standing body of water that doesn't have

30:46

an alligator.

30:47

>> I know. My friends were just at Disney

30:48

World and they said they got a they're

30:49

like, "Is there alligators around here?"

30:50

Like, "Yeah, we flush them out all the

30:51

time."

30:51

>> One killed a kid a few years back.

30:53

>> I heard about that. Just reached up and

30:54

just snagged it.

30:55

>> Bro, imagine your little toddler at

30:57

Disneyland just saw Cinderella having a

30:59

good time.

31:00

>> That's got to be fast. That's fast pass

31:02

for life though for the family.

31:04

>> So, that is all the Everglades and the

31:07

Everglades is just filled like if you go

31:09

walking like I'm out of here.

31:11

>> [ __ ] that. Like something's probably

31:12

going to get you.

31:13

>> No,

31:14

>> the Everglades are so [ __ ] because

31:15

it's not just the alligators. It's also

31:18

the pythons. There's giant pythons,

31:21

dude.

31:23

AI so ruthless.

31:26

>> That's [ __ ] alligators with ice hats

31:27

on.

31:28

>> Dude, the pythons are another cuz you

31:30

they catch you while you're sleeping. So

31:31

you lay down to sleep and you just wake

31:32

up and you're just

31:33

>> Are there more pythons in the Everglades

31:36

than there are anywhere in the world?

31:39

>> No way. Cuz there's a half a million of

31:41

them, they think.

31:42

>> What? Do you ever hear about Snake

31:43

Island in Brazil?

31:44

>> No,

31:44

>> dude. There's an island in Brazil that I

31:47

guess like whatever, you know, tectonic

31:49

plates or whatever moved and it used to

31:50

be connected to the mainland. It went

31:52

out and all the snakes just got stuck on

31:53

there with no natural predators.

31:56

>> They just eat each other.

31:57

>> Yeah, they just fight and eat each

31:58

other. And there's Dude, there's

31:59

apparently a snake like every meter you

32:01

move, there's at least one snake.

32:03

>> What?

32:03

>> I Dude, the images are [ __ ] are terrify.

32:06

They're like just piled on top of each

32:07

other. There are not more pythons in the

32:09

Everglades than anywhere else. The

32:10

Burmese python's native range in

32:12

Southeast Asia from India to Indonesia

32:14

supports far larger wild populations,

32:18

though exact numbers are hard to

32:19

quantify due to their vast habitat.

32:21

Everglades context: Burmese pythons are

32:23

invasive species. Florida Everglades

32:25

with estimates ranging from tens of

32:27

thousands to 300 thousands individuals

32:30

uh across southern Florida concentrate

32:32

in Evergrades National Park where their

32:34

density is notably high. population

32:37

exploded from a few snakes in the 90s to

32:40

enveloping much of the region by the

32:41

2020s driven by the release from pet

32:44

trade and events like Hurricane Andrew.

32:46

Yeah, they had Hurricane Andrew

32:48

apparently blew down a facility where

32:50

they were studying pythons.

32:52

>> No. And that's how they got out.

32:53

>> A bunch of them got out. And then

32:54

there's also people with pets, just

32:55

[ __ ] and death metal bands.

32:57

>> Yeah, they just dropped them.

32:58

>> Yeah, they just dropped them.

32:59

>> Well, that's how we we There's um what

33:01

we call it? Parakeetses here. They're

33:02

like they're like an invasive species

33:04

and they think that happened too.

33:04

Someone just like let their parakeets

33:06

out and now they're a problem here.

33:08

>> That's iguanas in Florida, too.

33:10

>> You know, they sell canned iguana meat

33:11

in Florida now.

33:12

>> Really?

33:13

>> Yeah. A buddy of mine lives in Florida.

33:14

He just sent me this.

33:16

>> He sent me uh he was at the supermarket

33:18

and they have uh iguana meat.

33:22

>> Probably not that.

33:23

>> Dude, I'm telling you, the uh Snake

33:25

Island, I I was like I thought it was

33:27

fake. My wife was telling me about it.

33:29

I'm like, "Dude, you got tricked. This

33:30

is has to be AI." I looked it up and

33:31

it's like it's a real thing. Let me see

33:33

that iguana meat. Yeah, I'm saying it.

33:34

>> I would It would probably be good. I've

33:36

eaten Gator before. Gator is not bad.

33:37

This might be fake.

33:38

>> I think it is. There's a God damn it.

33:40

>> I'm googling it. There's a a pizza

33:42

restaurant that got in trouble for

33:43

serving it

33:44

>> really.

33:45

>> But nothing else is popping up about

33:47

candy.

33:47

>> They got in trouble for serving it. Did

33:49

they tell people they were serving it?

33:51

>> You know, cuz people eat them.

33:53

>> They hunt them and eat them all the

33:54

time. I was watching a YouTube video the

33:56

other day where this guy was making like

33:57

stir-fried iguana meat.

33:59

>> Well, they get massive. They get

34:00

massive.

34:01

>> Yeah. Yeah. And they apparently taste

34:02

good. probably. They're aggressive, too.

34:05

If you see them in the wild, they'll

34:06

like charge after you.

34:07

>> They're nasty, man.

34:08

>> They're big.

34:09

>> Yeah, they're pretty like four or five

34:11

feet long.

34:12

>> They're Yeah, they're huge.

34:13

>> Nuts.

34:13

>> That was another animal I encountered in

34:15

Turks and Caos. We did the shark

34:16

swimming and I was like, "All right, I

34:18

let them like get out of the way." And

34:19

then we went to this island that was

34:20

just full of iguanas and they'll they'll

34:21

just run up on you. Do you know in

34:23

Florida when it gets really cold, they

34:24

just fall out of trees?

34:25

>> No.

34:26

>> Hilarious.

34:27

>> Cuz sometimes Florida it'll dip. It'll

34:29

get into the 30s and these [ __ ] just

34:31

fall out of the trees like stoned.

34:33

>> They just freeze and just

34:34

>> freeze and then they thaw out and come

34:36

back to life.

34:37

>> What?

34:37

>> Yeah.

34:38

>> [ __ ] That's an ancient species. Like

34:41

these are ancient creatures.

34:42

>> Damn. So they I thought they I thought

34:44

they need the like they're cold blooded

34:46

and they die so they can just I guess

34:47

they can just chill and

34:48

>> Well, so are alligators and alligators

34:50

freeze in lakes sometimes with their

34:52

mouths above the water.

34:54

>> They have their nose and their eyes

34:55

above the water and they just they're

34:57

frozen. There's a bunch of images of

34:59

these guys.

35:00

>> That's awesome.

35:00

>> Frozen in lakes.

35:01

>> I guess everything just slows down and

35:03

they just chill.

35:03

>> They don't have to eat for a year.

35:06

>> What?

35:06

>> Yeah. They can go without eating for a

35:08

whole year.

35:08

>> So, how much do you think we really have

35:10

to eat if alligators if bears don't have

35:12

to eat all winter? Alligators can go one

35:14

year. Like, do you think we're I always

35:15

think like do we have to eat every day?

35:17

>> Well, we definitely eat more than any

35:19

people have ever have except like

35:21

royals. Yeah.

35:22

>> You know, that's why people were so

35:23

tiny. Like you go back to like the Civil

35:25

War, the average man was like 130

35:27

pounds.

35:28

>> Yeah, that makes sense.

35:29

>> Yeah. Because nobody had any food,

35:31

>> you know, nobody had any protein.

35:32

>> Yeah.

35:33

>> But if you think about like how much we

35:37

eat morning, noon, and then evening,

35:40

>> hunter gatherers, they they got a meal a

35:43

day. Yeah.

35:44

>> You know, like if you got lucky, you had

35:45

a meal and you ate as much as you could

35:47

because there's no way to preserve it.

35:49

And then you went out the next day and

35:50

hoped you got another animal.

35:52

>> Yeah. That's kind of wild. You must have

35:53

spent like 6,000 calories a day just

35:55

trying to get one meal.

35:57

>> Yeah. And then other than like drying

35:58

your meat out, there's no way to

36:00

preserve it. So they would make jerky

36:02

or,

36:03

>> you know, like uh I know in uh Mexico,

36:06

some friends of mine went down there and

36:08

they have this traditional way of taking

36:10

buffalo and they slice it like really

36:12

really thin and then they hang it on

36:14

like a clothes hanger and dry it out.

36:17

>> Really?

36:18

>> That's all we need to do.

36:19

>> Well, that's what they had to do. They

36:21

had to figure out how to dry stuff cuz,

36:23

you know, there's no ref, man. How

36:25

[ __ ] hard life must have been with no

36:27

refrigeration.

36:27

>> Dude, it would suck so bad.

36:29

>> Suck so bad, man. I mean, that's like

36:32

when you go back to the turn of the

36:33

century, all the diseases were happening

36:35

in America. Just think about it. No

36:36

running water. Everybody's like [ __ ]

36:39

in holes in the ground outside the

36:41

houses. There's no ventilation. There's

36:43

no air conditioning.

36:45

>> Oh, yeah.

36:46

>> No vitamins.

36:47

>> Especially here. How many do people live

36:48

in Texas? Hard people.

36:50

>> I've been reading It must been crazy.

36:52

>> Hard people.

36:53

>> Yeah.

36:54

>> Hard [ __ ] people.

36:55

>> I've been reading West I'm reading Lone

36:57

Lonesome Dove right now. It's like an

36:58

old classic western and they just talk

37:01

about how hot they are all day long.

37:03

It's just dust in their face and it's

37:04

like, dude, that [ __ ] would suck.

37:06

Especially if you don't live near a

37:07

lake, so you can cool off a little bit.

37:09

>> Yeah. Oh, no. There's like Yeah. They

37:11

have like a spring house and every time

37:12

they go to get water, there's just

37:13

rattlesnakes everywhere near the spring

37:14

house. It's like, dude, that sucks so

37:16

bad. There's a great book about Texas

37:19

called um Empire of the Summer Moon.

37:21

>> Oh, I've heard of that before.

37:23

>> About the settlers encountering the

37:25

Comanche.

37:26

>> You got to think like if the Comanche if

37:28

this is where they lived and they lived

37:30

here year round, like they had to be the

37:32

hardest [ __ ] people in the world.

37:33

>> Yeah, dude. That would be brutal.

37:35

>> Just had to be [ __ ] just tough as

37:37

[ __ ] Especially when it gets like

37:39

freezing, too. They have like that two

37:40

weeks where it's super cold and Yeah,

37:42

that would be you never know when it's

37:43

coming back then either. You couldn't

37:45

prepare like Texas. Like right now it's

37:47

80. Two weeks ago it was 30.

37:50

>> Before that it was 20. Before that it

37:52

was 70. Like it's you don't know when

37:54

it's coming.

37:55

>> No. You have I like I've been here for

37:57

two years and I know we're going to get

37:58

like a solid collective week of real

38:01

winter

38:02

>> and the rest of it's just like 50 60 70

38:04

80 20 40. It's kind of like

38:05

>> it's worth it. I think it's perfect

38:07

because it gives you just enough cold so

38:09

you appreciate the warm. Just enough but

38:11

nothing like where you want to kill

38:13

yourself.

38:13

>> Yeah, I agree. nothing like there's, you

38:16

know, Montana winters and Wyoming

38:18

winters where they last like seven

38:19

months. You're like, I don't know if I

38:21

want to do this.

38:22

>> Even regular East Coast winter, I

38:23

couldn't handle it. By the time I had

38:25

left, like you don't feel the sun for

38:26

like at least 3 months. And I remember

38:28

spring it would finally like come out

38:30

and it's like that messes me up. Like I

38:32

need I'd rather it be super hot and

38:34

sunny than be cold. Yeah.

38:36

>> Cuz you can just like, you know,

38:38

>> just figure jump in a lake, jump in a

38:39

pool. You can

38:40

>> You know, that's what flu season's all

38:41

about too.

38:42

>> What? It's not like the flu emerges in

38:45

the winter. It's just everybody's immune

38:47

system's low. No one has any vitamin D.

38:50

A buddy of mine who was a doctor said

38:51

that he would do tests on people in New

38:53

York City and he said so many people

38:55

would come into his practice that had

38:57

undetectable levels of vitamin D.

38:59

>> What?

38:59

>> Yeah. Because they weren't supplementing

39:01

at all and they were wearing winter

39:02

clothes and they were never outside and

39:04

everybody's sick and they don't know

39:06

why. Well, you're vitamin D depleted.

39:08

>> Yeah. That's why in Seattle they have a

39:10

lot of people go in tanning beds and

39:12

[ __ ] They try to like do something to

39:14

>> Oh, just to get people

39:15

>> because tanning beds will give you a

39:17

natural dose of vitamin D.

39:19

>> That's kind of nice.

39:20

>> Yeah.

39:20

>> Apparently it's Isn't it like a hormone

39:22

more than a vitamin?

39:23

>> So yeah, that's what I heard. It's like

39:24

not even just like you know vitamin A or

39:26

B. It's like something you absolutely

39:27

need big time.

39:29

>> Yeah. A lot of people are saying you

39:30

should hyperdose it too. Like because

39:32

the USDA recommended is like 5,000

39:36

milligrams. A lot of people are saying

39:38

like 30,000 is what they take every day.

39:40

>> Yeah, I I had to do that for a while

39:42

because I had low vitamin D and they

39:43

were like, "You can take as much of this

39:44

as you want." I I'm like so I'm like

39:46

such a baby with medicine. Like I'm like

39:48

super sensitive to it. It did like

39:50

absolutely no side effects at all.

39:52

>> No, it doesn't give you side effects,

39:53

but for full absorption, I think you're

39:56

supposed to take it with a bunch of

39:57

other stuff. Like I think the

39:59

recommended is I take it with K2,

40:01

vitamin K2, and magnesium. I think there

40:04

might be one other thing that also helps

40:06

absorption, but uh like Dr. Rhonda

40:09

Patrick was on a podcast recently and

40:11

she was talking about how vitamin D,

40:13

someone was taking vitamin D, but they

40:15

weren't showing any improvement. She's

40:16

like, "Were you taking it with

40:17

magnesium?"

40:18

>> So magnesium apparently helps vitamin D

40:21

get absorbed in your like there's a

40:22

bunch of those things that like works

40:24

like if you if you take them without any

40:26

fat or any food, they're not good.

40:28

>> But then like amino acids, you have to

40:30

take them on an empty stomach. It's like

40:31

you got to know what you're doing.

40:32

>> That's true. Yeah. I have like a paste.

40:34

It's like a goop that's like fatty and I

40:36

just put it on a spoon and take

40:37

>> What is it? Just vitamin D fatty.

40:39

>> It's vitamin D. It's like a lipos somal

40:41

thing.

40:41

>> Oh, you put it on a spoon.

40:42

>> Yeah. See, I just eyeball it. I'm like,

40:44

that's probably about right.

40:45

>> I wonder if like liposomaal absorbs

40:47

easier.

40:49

>> Isn't that the whole idea about it?

40:50

>> It's paired to a fat and it kind of, you

40:52

know,

40:52

>> right? I wonder if that you don't need

40:54

as much like or you don't need vitamin D

40:56

or uh K2 rather.

40:58

>> Well, I I don't know. But I was low and

41:00

then I'm not now. So, I'm like, maybe it

41:03

worked. Maybe it was a fact I was

41:04

outside. I don't know.

41:05

>> I'm sure it works.

41:06

>> Yeah.

41:06

>> Yeah. It's just like, does it work

41:08

optimally? That's the thing.

41:09

>> Yeah.

41:10

>> It's like just taking it alone is

41:12

definitely going to be better than not

41:13

taking it at all. But they think that

41:14

for maximum absorption, what what are

41:17

the things that you should take with

41:18

vitamin D for put that in perpetually?

41:21

The the things you take with vitamin D

41:24

for maximum absorption.

41:27

>> It's hard to remember all this stuff,

41:29

too. That's part of the problem. Like

41:30

I'll hear it on a podcast. I'm like,

41:32

"Yeah, yeah."

41:34

Go back home. What the [ __ ] did the [ __ ]

41:36

did Andrew Huberman say?

41:39

>> Yeah. I I remember I heard um Heberman

41:42

had this thing about cortisol and he's

41:44

like, "You need to spike your cortisol

41:45

early in the morning, which I you know,

41:46

if I get up and exercise in the morning,

41:48

like, yeah, that's seems true because I

41:49

feel good." But then I was like, I I

41:51

can't have caffeine anymore. I had to

41:53

get off completely.

41:53

>> Really,

41:54

>> dude? I have I I can't have it. I'm like

41:56

super sensitive to it. If I had a cup of

41:58

coffee, what time is it right now? If I

42:00

had a cup of coffee now at 2:00, I would

42:02

not sleep till midnight.

42:04

>> Is that because you don't drink much of

42:05

it or I don't metabolize it?

42:07

>> Oh, that's my mom. My dad can drink

42:09

coffee and fall asleep. If my mom has

42:11

coffee, she's it just it like you have

42:13

it and I can feel it just in my body for

42:15

hours and I it's just like a non-stop c

42:17

like I love caffeine. The mental effects

42:20

my body just can't stand it.

42:22

>> Have you ever tried um neutropics like

42:25

theine?

42:26

>> I've done it all.

42:27

>> Acetylcholine. But not acetyloline, but

42:29

I've taken alenine with it, which helped

42:30

a little bit, but then I'll just drink

42:32

more coffee cuz

42:33

>> No, I don't mean with coffee. I mean by

42:35

itself as like a little bit of a pickme

42:37

up.

42:37

>> Oh yeah. No, I I like uh Yeah, I take I

42:40

take althanium before I go to sleep. I

42:41

think it kind of helps me sleep.

42:42

>> Yeah, I hear that too, which is

42:43

interesting because it helps with your

42:45

memory. Like how does it help with your

42:46

memory and also help you go to sleep?

42:48

>> I don't know.

42:48

>> Here it says vitamin D is a fat soluble

42:51

nutrient so pairing it with dietary fat

42:53

maximizes its absorption in the gut.

42:55

Take vitamin D supplements with a meal

42:57

containing fats for optimal uptake.

42:59

Studies show you can boost serum levels

43:01

by about 50%. Foods like fatty fish,

43:04

avocados, olive oil, nut, seeds, or full

43:07

fat yogurt provide these fats

43:08

effectively. Supportive nutrients.

43:10

Magnesium aids in converting vitamin D

43:13

to its active form and transporting it

43:14

in the body. Vitamin K2 works

43:16

synergistically to direct calcium to

43:18

bones, enhancing benefits for bone

43:20

health. Omega-3 fatty acids from fish

43:22

oil also improve absorption alongside

43:25

fats. All right, so that's it. So,

43:27

vitamin D should take with magnesium and

43:29

K2 and probably some fish oil.

43:31

>> Nice.

43:32

>> There you go.

43:32

>> That was eating it after breakfast. So,

43:34

there we go. Was getting my fats.

43:35

>> Yeah.

43:36

>> But yeah, the caffeine for me, I can't

43:37

like, you know, everyone's different,

43:38

but I I can't have it. Like, I

43:40

>> I could drink two double espressos and

43:42

go to sleep.

43:43

>> That's crazy. So, here's my thing, too.

43:44

I stopped because I didn't start really

43:46

drinking caffeine all the time until I

43:48

had kids. But I I like I don't have

43:50

dreams at night. If I drink even coffee

43:52

during like the day, no dreams at night

43:54

>> really.

43:55

>> If I don't know what it is, man. I'm

43:57

super super sensitive to it.

43:58

>> Well, a lot of people that stop smoking

44:00

weed say that they get wild crazy

44:02

dreams.

44:03

>> That happens too. That kind of blocks

44:04

your dreams, too.

44:05

>> Yeah.

44:06

>> But even that, like I don't know. I I

44:08

smoked weed forever and like I would

44:09

still kind of have dreams, but it's the

44:11

caffeine just like completely

44:13

neutralizes them. And then they say that

44:15

it's like anecdotal, but they say that

44:16

um caffeine, there's anecdotal evidence

44:18

that it kind of uh what is it? It like

44:21

discourages or you know, whatever it

44:22

does to your brain, you don't do as much

44:24

divergent thinking. It's more like

44:25

convergent where like if you need to get

44:26

like a task like all right, I need to

44:28

edit something. Caffeine's great. If

44:30

you're like, I need to come up with a

44:31

story idea.

44:32

>> There's like anecdotal evidence that

44:33

says like people who are on caffeine

44:35

report that it like messes up their

44:36

ability to like

44:37

>> just kind of like, you know, come up

44:39

with like new or novel ideas.

44:42

>> That makes sense. Yeah.

44:43

>> Because you're just hyperfocused on the

44:45

one thing that you're doing, like a lowd

44:47

dose meth.

44:47

>> Yeah, pretty much.

44:49

>> Yeah. Like my friends that have dated

44:52

girls that have had problems with

44:53

amphetamines, one of the things they say

44:55

is they know when they're on it because

44:57

then they start cleaning the house. They

44:59

start cleaning everything.

45:00

>> Yeah.

45:01

>> They start getting like hyperfocused on

45:03

like organizing and cleaning.

45:05

>> Like that sounds like a good drug.

45:06

>> Yeah. What's What's the back? It's

45:08

probably a spaz though. That's probably

45:09

the backlash. Well, it's probably

45:10

they're doing it for 12 hours while

45:12

they're listening to Slayer.

45:14

>> Yeah. [ __ ] dude. [ __ ] You're not even

45:17

talking about Adderall. This is them

45:18

doing like crystal meth or something.

45:20

>> I don't know. You saying amphetamines?

45:22

>> I I assume it's like meth.

45:25

>> Yeah. Empetamine babe would be not

45:26

ideal. I don't think

45:27

>> Well, I've talked to people that have

45:28

done meth and they they say you feel

45:30

like you're [ __ ] Superman, but you

45:31

also like want to get things done.

45:33

>> Really?

45:34

>> Yeah.

45:34

>> That's I've heard that similar thing

45:36

about crack where you feel like a

45:37

genius. You smoke crack. Apparently,

45:40

you're just like, "Dude, like why would

45:42

I have a refrigerator? I can sell it

45:43

right now and I can just order out to

45:45

and like apparently you're just like the

45:47

smartest person in your head in the

45:48

world,

45:48

>> right?"

45:49

>> And then you just like it all crashes

45:50

every 30 minutes.

45:51

>> It's It's like freebased cocaine is what

45:53

all it is.

45:54

>> Yeah.

45:54

>> Like what Richard Prior was doing back

45:56

in the day, that was just before crack.

45:58

>> Yeah.

45:59

>> It was freebasing cocaine.

46:00

>> Yeah. And it's weird, too, because I

46:01

think it just like coke I think just

46:04

floods your brain. A lot of things just

46:05

flood your brain with dopamine.

46:06

>> Yeah. But the delivery method apparently

46:08

of crack is superior. Like there's

46:11

something about smoking it where it just

46:12

goes right to your head. Well, I know

46:14

this from Hunter Biden cuz Hunter Biden

46:16

was he was on that Channel 5 show when

46:18

he was talking about it. It's [ __ ] he

46:20

was so descriptive of it. It almost made

46:22

you want to try crack. He it was almost

46:25

like it was like a romantic tale of like

46:27

a bad romance that he had to get out of.

46:31

This is a very genuinely way to say it's

46:32

a superior delivery mechanism.

46:34

>> Well, he's very smart, right? So he's

46:36

very articulate and he's talking about

46:39

like what it was like to smoke crack

46:41

>> and it's like holy [ __ ] man.

46:43

>> And I I wonder I guess I guess he's off

46:45

of it cuz I guess like you know yeah if

46:47

you started again it's probably just

46:49

another

46:49

>> Well there was that baggie they found at

46:51

the White House but

46:53

first of all might have been his but

46:55

also you think he's the only one of

46:57

those people doing coke.

46:59

>> Yeah I was about to say that could be

47:00

anybody. Listen, there's probably a lot

47:02

of those folks that need a little pickme

47:04

up sometimes before a meeting, before

47:07

>> they have to do a press thing or Oh,

47:09

dude. You're working 16 hours a day, a

47:11

little tired.

47:12

>> Woo!

47:12

>> Big time.

47:13

>> Let's go.

47:14

>> I used to work at a real estate company

47:15

when I was in college just like, you

47:16

know, they would like buy apartment

47:17

buildings and dude, all the like the

47:19

senior management were like, they used

47:21

to buy aderall off me.

47:22

>> They would just chomp [ __ ] aderall.

47:24

come in and just be like they would do

47:26

sales meetings and just be like

47:28

>> a friend of mine who's a journalist says

47:29

that all these journalists are on

47:31

aderall.

47:31

>> Yeah, I believe it

47:32

>> says it makes you productive.

47:34

>> They're all doing it.

47:35

>> Some of them are like super open about

47:37

it. Like Dave Portoy when he was in here

47:39

he was telling us what did he say he

47:40

took 30 milligrams? I

47:41

>> think I don't remember but yeah

47:43

>> it was enough that I was like yo and

47:45

then I had to go to Jamie. How much is

47:46

that? And Jamie was like a lot.

47:48

>> 30 is Yeah. 30 is uh that would get you

47:50

>> but not a lot if you do it a lot right?

47:53

>> Yeah. You get a Yeah,

47:54

>> that's the thing. It's like if you're

47:55

doing edibles with Joey Diaz, like how

47:57

much should I take? Take two,

47:58

[ __ ] Like what? Take two. How

48:01

much do you take?

48:04

>> Yeah, that would definitely mean I feel

48:05

like I can't get a tolerance to eat

48:07

edibles. They just knock me out every

48:09

time.

48:09

>> Jamie can just eat them and they don't

48:11

do anything for them.

48:11

>> That's crazy. I know people like that,

48:13

too. They're like, "Well, I need like

48:14

200 milligrams to feel it." I'm like,

48:16

I'm psychotic. At 200 milligrams, I'm

48:18

fried.

48:19

>> It's a lot.

48:20

>> Yeah, 200 is a lot. I used to have these

48:21

lollipops that were 200 milligrams. So,

48:23

I would try to gauge it like I don't

48:25

want to eat too much of it and it would

48:26

just I would get [ __ ] whacked all the

48:28

time.

48:29

>> So, we were we went over how many people

48:32

are on aderall once like the number of

48:35

Adderall prescriptions in a year. It was

48:38

something bonkers. It was like 39

48:40

million Aderall prescriptions in this

48:42

country. But then you have to go like

48:44

how many people is that? Right? Cuz like

48:46

you refill your prescriptions. So, how

48:48

often do you refill it? How many times a

48:50

year? You know what I mean?

48:52

>> I think it's more than 39. If that's the

48:53

case, I feel like there's 39 million

48:55

subscribers to Adall.

48:56

>> Well, there's definitely people that are

48:58

getting it other ways. For sure.

49:01

>> For sure.

49:01

>> Yeah. You get your script and you sell

49:03

it. But it's like,

49:04

>> so there are not just that. You're

49:06

getting it illegally. You know, you're

49:08

getting illegal good and bad. You're,

49:11

you know, getting cartel stuff

49:12

>> like pressed and stuff.

49:14

>> Yeah. Like they they can make a volume

49:16

that looks just like a Valium and

49:17

there's [ __ ] fentanyl in it.

49:18

>> Yeah. True. No, that's that's a that

49:20

like the pill world is they're like

49:22

completely riddled with that right now.

49:24

>> Oh, it's scary, man. Cuz kids are taking

49:26

these like there was a kid from a local

49:29

high school around here that I read a

49:30

story that he took an Adderall. He

49:32

thought it was an Adderall and it had

49:34

fentinyl in it. He died. He got it from

49:36

one of his friends. He was just trying

49:37

to cram for studies.

49:39

>> Yeah. That's that's why I always tell

49:40

people, anyone I know who does Coke, I'm

49:42

always like, "You got to stop, man."

49:44

They're like, "No, we'll test it." It's

49:45

like, "No, you're not. You're going to

49:46

be at a bar. You're going to be

49:48

hammered. You're going to buy Coke and

49:50

shove it up your nose.

49:51

>> I stop and be like, "Let me see."

49:53

>> I've never done it, but all my friends

49:55

who have done it have all said the same

49:56

thing. Don't do it.

49:58

>> It's

49:59

>> I've never I've never done it either. I

50:00

had no I've never had any interest, but

50:02

it's like I every time I'm around people

50:03

on it, I'm just like, "Dude, this

50:05

sucks."

50:05

>> Yeah.

50:06

>> Maybe they're having fun, but it's like

50:07

>> they want to sell you Bitcoin.

50:09

>> They want to go into business now.

50:11

>> Everybody does.

50:12

>> They get like super hyped about a

50:13

project they want to bring in. Well,

50:16

that's what I think. I I guess that's

50:17

the way it was explained to me. You just

50:18

feel like you've accomplished something

50:20

major. So, you just like snore Coke and

50:22

you're like, I am the best ever. It's

50:25

like why? I don't know. I just Yeah.

50:28

Joey Diaz used to say that you can't go

50:30

on stage with that.

50:31

>> Yeah, I can see that.

50:32

>> It's the worst. He goes, "You have no

50:33

feeling. You don't feel for the crowd."

50:35

>> Yeah. That's how I feel about I can't

50:37

drink and go on stage cuz I'll just I

50:39

I'm way too confident. If something

50:40

doesn't land, I'm like, "Fucking

50:42

whatever, pussy." Like I just don't I

50:44

don't care and I just do so bad.

50:46

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a weird fine dance

50:50

that people do with substances and

50:52

performing especially if you're doing

50:54

like a speed or something because you

50:57

can get it wrong.

50:58

>> I would imagine.

50:59

>> Yeah. You can get your balance wrong.

51:00

>> I've heard aderall does not mix with

51:02

comedy at all. That's what I've heard.

51:04

>> I've heard people like it. You're just

51:05

It's like a weird part of your brain

51:07

where you're just too lasered in.

51:08

>> I've heard people like to use it for

51:10

writing though, which I think is weird.

51:12

I guess. Yeah. I don't know.

51:13

>> I know they use it for writing books.

51:15

>> I don't know if it would be the same for

51:17

writing comedy

51:18

>> because, you know, you're talking about

51:19

like coming up with ideas like you'd

51:21

imagine that would be the coffee thing

51:23

on steroids.

51:24

>> Yeah. Right.

51:25

>> I don't I for me for writing like I like

51:27

to write. I like I write books. I like

51:29

to do other stuff.

51:30

>> Writing standup is more like it has to

51:32

just pop into my head. Then I go like,

51:33

"Oh, that would be funny." And then I

51:34

you know, if I start fleshing it out,

51:36

like new ideas come. I've tried to like

51:38

write standup and it never it like very

51:41

rarely do I get anything that like works

51:43

when I do that.

51:44

>> Yeah, me too. But what I do is I write

51:47

essays.

51:48

>> I just like essays on a subject and then

51:50

from that I'll extract little things.

51:52

>> That's a good idea.

51:53

>> And then I take that little thing and I

51:54

say how do I introduce this thing and

51:56

what is what would be funny about this

51:58

thing and how would I lead into this and

51:59

what are the other like surrounding

52:01

things that would go with this?

52:03

>> No, that's that's a good way to do it. I

52:04

have to I have to trick myself into

52:06

being like I'm memorizing my material so

52:08

I just bullet point it and then I get

52:09

bored and my mind wanders. I'm like that

52:11

would actually be pretty funny,

52:12

>> right? And then you start rambling.

52:14

Yeah, that's the thing about the essay

52:15

that if you just sit down and write a

52:17

sub, you know, about a subject, whatever

52:19

that subject is,

52:20

>> that you just start thinking about all

52:23

the different aspects of that sub

52:25

instead of thinking how to write in

52:27

comedy form.

52:28

>> Yeah. you know.

52:28

>> No, that that's a that's a smart idea

52:30

because yeah, if I try to write it then

52:31

like you try to repeat it but you wrote

52:33

it down so then it sounds like a written

52:35

thing and it's like

52:36

>> but even that in the essay way it's a

52:38

brutal process because then you have to

52:40

take that one sentence or that one

52:42

paragraph in a thousand words and then

52:45

figure out a way to introduce that where

52:47

it's not clunky.

52:49

>> Yeah.

52:49

>> And then figure out what's the funniest

52:51

part about it. And it's like you have to

52:53

always know that the first time you

52:55

bring it out there it's going to suck.

52:57

>> Yeah. And you have to just slowly but

52:59

surely trust it to get better and just

53:03

throw it into the fire every night.

53:06

>> You know, you have your bits that you

53:07

know are going to kill and you're like,

53:09

I don't want to trot that one out here.

53:10

I know

53:11

>> that is the I kind of is the funnest

53:12

part though to me. Like when I moved

53:14

here, I had just uh I think Yeah, I

53:17

think I had just put out an hour or like

53:18

recorded so I had no I had to like start

53:21

with like new material, which sucks. You

53:23

move somewhere, you have new stuff and

53:25

you're like, dude, I have only new [ __ ]

53:26

It's a bad feeling, but it's like it's

53:28

exciting because you're like you don't

53:29

know how it's going to go every night. I

53:31

don't know. I like I like that. I think

53:33

it's good. I think it's like we were

53:35

talking the other day uh about loss,

53:37

about failure. Like I was talking with

53:39

Michael Malice about bombing on stage. I

53:41

think bombing is good cuz what happens

53:43

if you bomb that feeling you feel

53:45

terrible the next day, you feel terrible

53:47

that night, and then you're like, I got

53:49

to [ __ ] get back on stage and really

53:52

like tighten up my [ __ ] And I always

53:54

have in the past made big leaps after I

53:58

bombed.

53:59

>> I'm like, I think it's important. Like

54:00

failure is important. It sucks. You

54:03

don't like it, but you got to go through

54:05

that. Like maybe you got overconfident

54:08

or maybe you were in a bad mood or maybe

54:10

it was like whatever.

54:12

>> Yeah. No, it helps. That that's what

54:14

like motivates me to write standup. If I

54:16

bomb, I'm like, "All right, now let me

54:17

let me like dial it in because I have

54:19

like I'm always doing a bunch of stuff

54:21

and like I'm like, "Oh, I got a show."

54:22

And I like, you know, organize kind of

54:23

against the gun. But yeah, a good a bomb

54:26

really is like a clarifying. It's good

54:28

for you, honestly.

54:29

>> Yes, it is. Have a bomb.

54:31

>> Well, I used to say that to fighters,

54:32

too. You lose a fight, it's good. Long

54:34

as you get really hurt, it's good

54:36

because you like that feeling. Go home

54:38

with that feeling and think about all

54:40

the stones that you left unturned, all

54:42

the times where you skip road work, all

54:44

the times you skip strength and

54:46

conditioning, all the times you're

54:47

halfassing it in the gym. That guy

54:49

didn't do that. He just beat you. Now,

54:51

you know,

54:53

>> you know, you know, like you have to

54:54

understand that there's levels to these.

54:56

There's levels to dedication. There's

54:58

levels to

54:59

>> competency and you know, a good loss is

55:02

good for you.

55:03

>> Yeah. It kind of like, you know, again,

55:04

if you have your tried and true and

55:06

you're just going on stage, oh, it's

55:07

working night after night, you just go

55:09

home, you're like, whatever. But yeah,

55:10

when you bomb it, like for me, it does

55:12

something in my brain where like my

55:13

thoughts start flying that, you know,

55:15

whatever that is just helps me get stuff

55:17

out there. Well, when I lived in Boston,

55:18

one of the things that was a real

55:20

problem was there were these there was

55:21

these local headliners that had these

55:23

[ __ ] acts, man. They had 45 minutes

55:27

of like hammered samurai sword. It was

55:32

so good cuz they had been doing that 45

55:34

minutes for a decade and a half.

55:36

>> Crazy, dude.

55:36

>> It was so good. Their timing was so

55:39

good. The the the pacing was so good.

55:41

They would crush every night. But after

55:44

a while, they never added anything new

55:47

to it. And these guys just like a buddy

55:49

of mine went to see a Boston headliner

55:52

that we knew from like Fitz Simmons went

55:54

to see a Boston headliner that we knew

55:56

from the 80s. And he goes, "Dude, he was

55:58

doing the same material." He goes, "It

56:00

was so sad." He goes, "It was just

56:02

phoning it in. It was barely getting a

56:05

response from the audience. There was

56:06

like dated references cuz this guy just

56:09

had an act and he like a [ __ ] guy who

56:11

shows up at the office. He would

56:13

>> open up his suitcase,

56:15

>> pull his act out. That was his act.

56:18

Those guys are always fascinating

56:19

because when you're like, you know, I

56:20

started in Philly and like so like the

56:22

only the first like paid gigs you get as

56:24

an open micer are like you do like moose

56:26

lodges and [ __ ] for like 50 bucks and

56:28

it's always one of those like wacko

56:30

headliners

56:31

>> who's been around for 30 years.

56:32

>> He's doing it forever. He's giving you

56:34

the career talk in between the show.

56:35

There's like I would get like comedy

56:36

magicians all the time.

56:38

>> Oh yeah.

56:38

>> And dude, it was like Yeah. Those those

56:40

guys would always kind of freak me out.

56:41

Like I would open for guys that would

56:43

talk about like floppy discs in like the

56:45

2000s and I'm back. What are you doing,

56:47

man? Like you don't have CDs anymore.

56:50

Like you

56:52

>> This guy talked about porn on a floppy

56:54

disc on stage. Dude, it was [ __ ]

56:56

Screech. RIP. It was Screech.

56:57

>> Screech.

56:58

>> RIP. I opened for Screech back in the

57:00

day and I was like, "Fuck yes. This is

57:02

going to be awesome." He was he was

57:03

killing it in the comedy clubs. He was

57:05

like one of the first people to go from

57:07

being on a sitcom to touring on the

57:09

road.

57:10

>> Yeah, I caught I caught Late Screech

57:12

though.

57:12

>> Skippy.

57:13

>> Remember Skippy from Family M? Was it

57:15

Family Matters? Is that was his What was

57:17

it from? What was the show?

57:19

>> Skippy.

57:20

>> He was another guy who was uh he was on

57:22

a sitcom.

57:24

>> Was he on not Step by Step?

57:26

>> I don't remember. But he remember same

57:29

thing. He was became he like Hollywood

57:31

didn't work out for him and

57:32

>> family ties.

57:33

>> Family ties

57:34

>> family ties with Michael J. Fox.

57:36

>> Yeah.

57:37

>> Yeah. So that guy was headlining comedy

57:39

clubs all over the place.

57:41

>> This was like a bar in Delaware. This

57:43

was not a glamorous gig.

57:45

>> It was bad. This was

57:47

>> I was I what I I graduated college in

57:50

2009. It would have been like 2012

57:53

maybe.

57:54

>> So this was like late. This was like

57:55

late screech. And the whole time he's on

57:57

stage, people go Screech and he would

57:59

just it [ __ ] made him so mad.

58:02

But I remember it was a funny show cuz I

58:05

it was supposed to be a lady was

58:06

supposed to host I was going to feature.

58:08

It's going to be Screech as a headliner.

58:10

And the guy who owned the venue just bad

58:12

like wanted to [ __ ] this lady so bad

58:14

that he was like, "Hey, I'm letting that

58:15

lady feature. You're going to host." And

58:17

he was like, "I'll pay you the same

58:19

price." And I was like, "Yeah, whatever.

58:20

I don't give a shit." So he paid me and

58:22

I had been, you know, I've been doing

58:22

stand up for a couple years, so I was

58:24

like kind of sharp, you know, especially

58:25

for like that bar show. And this lady, I

58:28

I didn't he she had never done standup

58:30

before. This was her first time.

58:33

This guy [ __ ] her over. He thought he

58:35

was doing something nice for her. She

58:36

sat there for all the 20 minutes and

58:38

read out of a giant notebook and just

58:41

[ __ ] b like completely in horrific

58:44

like a first time standup doing 20

58:46

minutes completely bombed. And I

58:47

remember Screech was in the back with me

58:48

and he's like, "The [ __ ] is this?" I

58:51

remember he he was like bragging being

58:52

like, "Dude, they gave me eight grand. I

58:53

don't give a [ __ ] about this show."

58:55

>> I knew a few guys who their girlfriend

58:56

started doing comedy and then the

58:58

girlfriend started opening for them and

59:00

it was just wild.

59:03

>> For her sake, you can't do that. That's

59:05

so such a bad idea.

59:06

>> It's so crazy. And these guys were like

59:07

competent headliners. So the people were

59:09

coming to see them. They're excited.

59:10

Hey, we're going to go we're going to go

59:11

laugh. Have a good time. Nope.

59:13

>> No. You're going to get tortured for 20

59:15

minutes before you get to laugh.

59:17

>> Also, that's not going to help him

59:18

either. She's going to be furious. Like,

59:20

it's I don't know why people do that.

59:22

You can't.

59:22

>> Well, they want to do it. Like, help me.

59:24

Help me. That's one thing that happens a

59:26

lot with comedy couples. Like, one of

59:28

the couples will help the other one

59:29

write.

59:30

>> Yeah.

59:30

>> Yeah.

59:31

>> Yeah. That Okay. Writing is one thing,

59:32

but like

59:33

>> And it's why they want to do it. It's

59:35

like they want to hook up with a

59:36

headliner, whether it's a guy or a girl.

59:38

Yeah. Yeah,

59:38

>> you hook up with a headliner, he or she

59:40

helps you with your act,

59:41

>> and then you go back and you know,

59:44

>> it's also impossible though cuz if

59:46

you're dating a comic and then you book

59:48

your own opener, you can't be like, "Ah,

59:50

next time I got you next time." You

59:51

know, you have to flat out be like, "No,

59:53

I'm not you're not doing this."

59:54

>> Right. And then you break up.

59:56

>> Yeah. Yeah.

59:57

>> But for if you really care about their

59:59

comedy, you like, "Bro, you got to you

60:00

got to go to the open mics and you

60:01

know."

60:02

>> Yeah. Doing it in front of a soldout

60:04

show when you're just starting out is a

60:06

crazy idea. It's I couldn't imagine. I

60:08

literally couldn't imagine. It would It

60:09

would have messed me up.

60:10

>> Well, that's why Kill Tony is so nuts.

60:12

Yeah.

60:13

>> Like there are people there are people

60:15

who have gone on for their first time

60:18

ever in Madison Square Garden to a

60:21

soldout arena of 16,000 people.

60:24

>> And then it's filmed for what, like a

60:26

mill couple million people. It's like

60:29

>> millions of people. You're out there

60:30

eating dick.

60:31

>> That must feel crazy waking up the next

60:33

morning.

60:34

>> Yeah. Just like if you go to sleep.

60:36

Yeah.

60:36

>> Let's imagine that you can go to sleep.

60:38

If I flub a word, I don't go to sleep.

60:41

>> They can go to sleep after that.

60:43

>> Yeah. You're essentially filming a one

60:45

minute special the first time.

60:47

>> The first time you do

60:48

>> on Netflix.

60:50

>> God damn.

60:51

>> Or on YouTube. I mean, both of them are

60:53

getting [ __ ] millions of views.

60:55

>> I know. Dude, I I I

60:59

be so scared to do that. The people who

61:01

can do that, I'm like, that's amazing.

61:03

>> Go out there and crazy.

61:04

>> True. True.

61:07

That's actually true. Some of the people

61:09

when you're you're interviewing them

61:11

after they do the set like I go, "Has

61:14

this guy been screened? Do we need to

61:15

make sure he doesn't have a [ __ ]

61:16

knife on them?"

61:17

>> They do need that airport [ __ ] thing.

61:19

>> Yeah. Oh, 100%. Some of these people are

61:20

out of their [ __ ] mind.

61:22

>> I always wanted to hang in the bar where

61:24

like the holding tank where everyone is

61:25

cuz that's got to be the craziest vibe

61:27

in there.

61:28

>> Well, you remember open mic nights?

61:30

>> Yeah, true. open mic night at the comedy

61:32

store in particular was always so nuts.

61:35

Yeah,

61:35

>> it was just a complete lunatic asylum.

61:38

>> For realist, dude,

61:40

>> there's this one guy, Robert William

61:42

Apparaya, and he would come there

61:43

everywhere. He was a really nice guy and

61:45

all of his act was about marijuana and

61:48

he at one point in time was a lawyer and

61:51

then uh I guess blew a fuse

61:54

>> and then just was doing comedy, but he

61:56

would walk from downtown. He lived in a

61:58

flop house in downtown and it would take

62:01

him hours. He would walk from downtown

62:03

to the comedy store and when it rained

62:05

out, the way he would deal with the rain

62:07

is he would take plastic grocery bags

62:11

and tuck them inside of all of his

62:13

clothing. So he'd wrap them around his

62:16

body. So he had his clothing on the

62:18

outside and these plastic bags all over

62:21

his body. That's so [ __ ] funny. The

62:24

clothes are on the outside.

62:26

>> Yeah. Yeah. So, he let his clothes get

62:27

wet, but his body would be dry.

62:28

>> Well, he couldn't figure out how to put

62:29

it all outside of him. So, his solution

62:32

was just cover his skin and keep him

62:35

from getting wet and cold, which I guess

62:36

would work. It'd probably keep you

62:38

sweaty, too.

62:38

>> Yeah. You'd sweat. Yeah.

62:39

>> Yeah. So, he was like a staple. And he

62:42

would go there every night late at night

62:44

and he would be like one of the last

62:46

guys up at open mic night every week.

62:48

>> Whoa.

62:48

>> Yeah. And just was insane. Like, you

62:50

couldn't you couldn't shake your hand,

62:52

>> couldn't touch him. He was always

62:53

nervous that everybody hated him. And so

62:55

he'd like be scared and I became friends

62:57

with him so he was cool with me. I' I'd

62:59

talk to him but like one time I tried to

63:00

give him knuckles. I'm like I sorry I

63:02

forgot.

63:02

>> He just wouldn't

63:04

>> Yeah.

63:05

>> He would like like mumble and look at

63:06

the ground like sorry.

63:08

>> Yeah.

63:08

>> He was legitimately cooked whatever

63:11

whatever was going on.

63:12

>> Ah [ __ ]

63:13

>> Yeah. But he was a lawyer

63:15

>> and he just blew a fuse.

63:17

>> Jesus Christ.

63:18

>> It happens.

63:19

>> Yeah it does. No, there's you forget

63:21

like well at least I did because I you

63:23

know doing the open mics it's like it is

63:25

like a complete freak factory.

63:26

>> A freak but you're like steeped in that

63:29

so much for years and then I remember

63:31

like when I finally stopped going to

63:33

open mics all the time. I was still in

63:35

Philly and I like just took a break from

63:37

the open mics. I would go do shows and I

63:38

was like let me go to the open mic. It

63:40

had been like six months and I was like

63:41

I'll go to one try stuff out. I like got

63:44

in, you know, I'm sitting behind the

63:45

area. I was in like Philly Helium just

63:46

sitting there at the open mic and I just

63:48

got like right away guys like dude look

63:50

at him [ __ ] s and it was just like

63:51

all these people like oh this was like

63:53

the worst environment you can possibly

63:55

be in.

63:56

>> It was just so everyone was like this

63:57

guy's a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] I hate

63:58

this guy. And everyone's so [ __ ]

64:00

angry and just everyone's so charged on

64:02

adrenaline all the time. They're also

64:05

like on the outside of this thing that

64:07

they want to do this dream and they get

64:10

to try it like a regular person with no

64:13

training, no schooling, no nothing. You

64:16

get to stand on that stage with a

64:18

microphone. I went down a rabbit hole

64:20

the other night

64:20

>> and I was watching open mic nights from

64:22

Long Island.

64:23

>> Oh [ __ ] dude.

64:26

>> It was so crazy.

64:29

>> That would be fun though. It's so crazy

64:31

watching someone that definitely

64:33

shouldn't be doing comedy that's trying

64:34

comedy for the first time

64:36

>> and I was, you know, it was one of those

64:38

dumb things. It was like midnight like,

64:41

well, let me see.

64:43

>> And they have them.

64:44

>> There's all kinds of basically you find

64:47

anything. Yeah. Online. And I I started

64:50

watching you. I can only watch for so

64:51

long and then I get anxiety and then I

64:53

have to shut it off. Well, that was like

64:55

when you do open mics and you finally do

64:56

like a showcase and you invite your

64:57

friends or your family to watch and

64:59

they're just like, "What the [ __ ] are

65:00

you doing? Who are these people?" You're

65:02

like, "They're my friends."

65:04

>> I brought some of my friends the first

65:06

time I ever went on stage.

65:08

>> I didn't want to do it by myself.

65:09

>> I was the opposite. I didn't want anyone

65:11

to see me for a long time.

65:13

>> Yeah.

65:14

>> And I did a show one time because I have

65:15

a big family. So, I did a show and

65:16

there's this place at Raven Lounge in

65:18

Philly. It was like awesome. Like when

65:19

we started tiny little blackbox thing in

65:22

the top of a bar. It fit maybe like 25

65:24

people and I have a big family. So I

65:26

finally was like, "All right, I'm gonna

65:27

invite my family out." Dude, I remember

65:29

I was on stage and I knew like 17 out of

65:32

the 25 people and I was like, "Dude,

65:33

[ __ ] kill me right now. This sucks."

65:36

>> And they're staring at you like this.

65:37

>> It was just all my aunt in the front

65:38

just like looking at me and I was like,

65:39

"No."

65:40

>> Watching you choke, watching you bomb.

65:43

Oh

65:46

>> for them. They were the audience. I'm

65:47

like, "Fuck."

65:49

It's but that's you know the only way

65:52

it's like I I know some people that have

65:54

taken comedy classes and then that has

65:57

kind of got them into standup.

65:59

>> Yeah. That's

66:00

>> this is a function of comedy classes and

66:03

that function is like it gets you to try

66:05

it. I don't think anybody maybe there's

66:08

a few out people out there that are like

66:10

legit comics that are teaching them but

66:12

for the most part not how so we had a

66:14

comedy class at helium there and the

66:16

thing was if you won the if you took the

66:19

comedy class it get let you in the

66:21

comedy classes contest then you can

66:23

compete with the other people in the

66:24

class and if you won that you got the

66:25

hosting gig at Helium

66:27

>> and it was it was a sweet deal but it

66:29

was so hard to get into Helium so I had

66:30

done standup for a while I took time off

66:32

and when I got back into it I was like

66:34

[ __ ] it I'm taking that comedy class.

66:35

I'm going to try to fasttrack myself

66:36

into host. So, I won the comedy class

66:39

contest and and then I got into Philly's

66:41

Funniest. When I won Philly's Funniest,

66:43

I got, you know, they're like the improv

66:46

theater across the street was like,

66:47

"We'll let you host a comedy class and

66:49

we'll give you like 35 bucks an hour."

66:51

Dude, I had like no healthcare. I had

66:52

nothing. I was like, "Absolutely, let's

66:54

do it." So, I I had a comedy class and

66:56

they showed up and I was like, "All

66:57

right, never take a comedy class ever

66:59

again." I was like, "Don't ever do this

67:01

ever again. This is so dumb you guys did

67:03

this, but we're just going to run this

67:04

as an open mic. And I was like, "Get up

67:06

there." And I had them all go up and

67:07

just do like five, you know, it just it

67:08

was just an open mic.

67:09

>> Well, that will work.

67:10

>> Yeah, that's what I try to tell him.

67:12

That's what I try to tell him. But I I

67:14

the one I was at was like real sketchy,

67:16

man. It was very much like I'm about to

67:18

blow up. I'm taking you guys with me.

67:20

This is how it's done.

67:22

>> And you get out of it and you go, "This

67:23

[ __ ] bro. Like, I got deals in

67:25

development." Blah, blah, blah. It was

67:27

[ __ ] [ __ ] But

67:28

>> there's so many of those guys. I I got

67:30

blacklisted from Helium because they

67:31

found out I had a comedy class, which

67:33

wasn't even a it was a fake comedy

67:34

class. I just wanted the money for it.

67:36

And uh

67:36

>> Did you try to tell them?

67:38

>> Yeah, I told the owner. I was like,

67:38

"Bro, what are we doing?" He's like,

67:39

"Love, man, just chill." And I was like

67:41

I was like I was like, "Can I do the

67:42

open mic still?" He's like, "You can do

67:43

the open mic." And the guy found out I

67:44

was on the open mic and they booted me

67:45

off that for like a month.

67:47

>> Oh my god.

67:48

>> He was out for blood. And I called him

67:49

like, "What the fuck?" Cuz I knew this

67:50

guy. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] are you

67:51

doing?" He's like, "Well, I didn't call

67:52

them." I'm like, "Okay, you know, it was

67:54

like this big thing." Well, there was

67:55

talk when they were the same people own

67:57

Cap City here now. There was talk that

68:00

if you headline there, you couldn't do

68:02

my club for 3 months.

68:04

>> It's crazy.

68:04

>> And I was like, "Come on, guys. Why?"

68:07

>> I go I I said to him, I'm like, "I'll if

68:10

you if one of my friends is at your

68:11

club, I'm like, "I'll tweet about it."

68:13

Like, I don't I I don't want this to be

68:16

competition. There's plenty of comedians

68:18

and there's plenty of audience members

68:19

for everybody. That's silly.

68:21

>> Also, everyone's going to be fine. I

68:22

just Yeah, that that's such That's

68:23

insane. It's crazy.

68:24

>> Yeah. I don't like that.

68:25

>> A young guy coming up, you're banning

68:27

him from the club cuz he's hosting a

68:29

comedy class for money.

68:31

>> Yeah. It was It was kind It was

68:32

nonsense. Now, you know, now

68:34

>> comedy class is probably going to lead

68:36

more people to your club. Like, it's all

68:38

feeds off of itself.

68:39

>> I know. And it was literally like Well,

68:41

you know, maybe the word got out that I

68:42

was like, never take a comedy class ever

68:44

again.

68:45

>> Why did Philly have a Did Peel have a

68:47

class?

68:47

>> That was the class I took. I took a

68:48

class at Helium cuz I wanted to

68:50

fasttrack myself to the host. Otherwise,

68:52

you had to do Philly's funniest and said

68:54

it.

68:54

>> Yeah. So, I was like,

68:56

>> I completely gamed it and I was like,

68:57

"Fuck it." Because these were like

68:58

people who've never done it before. I

68:59

done it for years. So, I just went and

69:00

did the class so I could do the contest.

69:02

>> Do you ever go back and think about

69:03

people that you knew in the early days

69:05

and you like I thought they were going

69:06

to make it.

69:08

>> Yeah. There's a couple people that I was

69:09

like, "This guy's like a celebrity.

69:11

Like, he's he's got it." And it's just

69:13

like I don't know what happened. They

69:14

just kind of like I guess I don't know.

69:16

>> It's weird.

69:17

>> It is weird.

69:18

>> There's a few people that I started out

69:19

with. I'm like, "Damn, this dude's

69:21

talented." Like, "There's something

69:22

there." And

69:23

>> Oh, no. Yeah. I know. It's funny you

69:24

said that. I'm like, "I don't think so."

69:25

Then I'm like, "Oh, yeah. There was

69:26

definitely at least one, if not like two

69:28

or three that I they would come, they

69:30

would do this, but they were This guy

69:32

was always on his own time. He would

69:34

like show up late, just walk on." Like

69:35

it was I think there's some people you

69:37

just can't keep into like a thing at

69:39

all, but their personalities are like

69:40

magnetic.

69:41

>> Yeah. There's some people that for

69:43

whatever reason, they never figure out

69:45

how to make a living at it.

69:47

>> Yeah. They never like and then they get

69:49

bored with it or they get frustrated or

69:52

something.

69:52

>> I there was Yeah, I couldn't imagine

69:53

just the like the there was I'd see

69:56

people go who would like you know

69:57

everyone bombs when you're starting out

69:58

at open mics but there are people that

70:00

bomb every time for like years and they

70:03

keep doing it and you're like bro how

70:04

are you how do you how are you doing

70:07

this? I would have one bad set. I'm like

70:09

I'm going to kill myself dude. I hate

70:10

this.

70:11

>> Some people just don't see it and that's

70:13

also they don't address it and that's

70:15

also where they don't get any better.

70:17

Mhm.

70:17

>> They don't have any self-awareness.

70:19

>> Yeah, that could be it.

70:20

>> And their perception of how people see

70:23

them is distorted. Yeah. You know,

70:25

>> no, that's kind of scary actually.

70:26

>> Yeah. You want to put blinders up.

70:28

>> It's pretty cut and dry though when like

70:30

people are silent in front of you.

70:31

You're like, damn, I suck right now.

70:33

This is I should change something.

70:36

>> But in the beginning, it's just it's

70:38

such a weird you're you're basically

70:40

like running a marathon blindfolded

70:43

through trees. Dude, you have Well, I I

70:46

dude if like finally when I did like a

70:48

special I was like, oh, this is the

70:49

point of it. You have to come up with an

70:51

hour of standup.

70:52

>> Yeah.

70:52

>> Before I was just like, I need to have a

70:53

good five minutes for tonight. And I

70:54

would just go up and do it and be like,

70:56

great. And I just go back home with like

70:58

no plan or anything.

70:59

>> Well, that's a lot of guys who live in

71:00

cities where you do short sets all the

71:02

time.

71:02

>> Yeah,

71:02

>> we were talking about that the other

71:04

night in the green room. Like some guys

71:05

who do a lot of like New York City

71:07

clubs, they have a really good 15

71:09

minutes, a [ __ ] crush for 15 minutes.

71:11

But when they have to do an hour, then

71:13

things get weird because they can't keep

71:14

the same energy for an hour. It's not

71:16

You have to pace it. It has to be hills

71:18

and valleys. You have to kind of like

71:20

structure it.

71:21

>> Yeah. Yeah.

71:21

>> And then they also don't really have the

71:23

material because they're basically just

71:25

doing their best 15 minutes all the

71:27

time.

71:28

>> Yeah. True.

71:29

>> I I had the uh I wasn't even really

71:31

doing standup. We me and Shane were

71:33

doing the podcast and I was like I'm

71:35

just going to do the podcast. I don't

71:36

even want to do standup anymore. And

71:37

then he it was pretty funny. behind my

71:39

back. Went to the manager at Helium was

71:41

like, "Dude, have Matt headline." And I

71:43

was like, "Fucking dick." And the guy

71:44

hit me up. So, I started doing that. So,

71:46

I had been like not doing standup

71:48

>> for how long?

71:49

>> For like months and months and like it

71:51

maybe a year off and I I had like, you

71:53

know, I went, you know, it was like I

71:55

would go and try stuff. So, then I

71:56

started doing when I first started

71:57

headlining, I would

71:59

>> do an hour, have off for like two

72:01

months, do an hour somewhere else. It

72:03

was the most insane. It like really

72:05

started [ __ ] with me.

72:06

>> Did you have recordings to listen to at

72:07

least? I would record the audio and I

72:09

would listen to it and then I would like

72:10

jot down notes and like it it was the

72:12

most insane way to get back into it.

72:14

>> That was the thing that we experienced

72:16

after co there was a a moment where I

72:19

hadn't done standup in like four or five

72:20

months. Yeah.

72:21

>> It was it felt so weird. And then

72:23

Houston had uh standup. They they had

72:26

clubs open and they like space people

72:28

out and put masks on them. I'm like this

72:30

is so ridiculous.

72:31

>> Yeah. And uh we were doing shows inside

72:34

and I only did one weekend and then I

72:37

got super paranoid. I'm like what if I

72:39

give it to someone and they die? Like

72:41

why am I being so selfish that I want to

72:43

do these shows?

72:44

>> I like I got to stop. So

72:46

>> I had uh this old lady on the podcast

72:49

and my first thought was what if I have

72:51

it and I give it to her?

72:53

>> Damn that would suck.

72:54

>> I was so freaked out.

72:56

>> Yeah.

72:56

>> I didn't have I wasn't even remotely

72:58

sick. That was what was crazy. Like it

73:00

was just a it was a boogeyman

73:02

>> for sure.

73:03

>> It wasn't like I'm coughing, maybe I

73:05

shouldn't come into work.

73:06

>> No, it was like I feel great, but what

73:08

if I have it? I don't know.

73:09

>> They give it to this lady.

73:11

>> Yeah, I dude I had my first kid right

73:13

like March 2020.

73:16

>> So it just we got out of the hospital

73:18

and like a week later I was like holding

73:20

my face in a grocery store being like,

73:21

"Fuck, what the hell?"

73:22

>> Well, at least you could be with her

73:23

when she gave birth then.

73:24

>> Yeah, that was cool.

73:25

>> That was what was crazy. Yeah. People

73:28

were dying alone cuz you couldn't visit

73:31

them while they were dying.

73:32

>> I know. It was insane, dude. It was It

73:33

was like And luckily

73:34

>> when we went in for our second kid, that

73:36

was like it was still kind of in the

73:37

mix. I we were able to go in together,

73:40

but like our nurse, you know, if we

73:41

didn't have like our mask on, she was

73:43

like, I don't whatever. I don't care. I

73:44

heard people were getting like just like

73:46

like two weeks after we had our kid,

73:48

people were in there like, I got to stay

73:49

home. My wife's in there by herself,

73:50

blah, blah, blah. And it was like it's a

73:52

disaster. But even navigating that was

73:54

crazy because it was like you know I'd

73:55

tell my wife like I want to go do this.

73:57

She's like what if you bring it all to

73:58

all of us and it just I remember just at

74:00

one point being like then we're all

74:01

gonna [ __ ] get it dude. I don't know

74:02

like we I you know I did the numbers

74:04

like I think this affects older people

74:06

or you know

74:07

>> what what time was this?

74:08

>> Uh this would have been March. It would

74:09

like March 2020 and then like the next

74:11

six months

74:13

>> because I you know I would like go try

74:14

to do stuff. He's like if you go outside

74:15

we're all going to get sick.

74:17

>> I was worried about it. I wasn't really

74:19

confident that people weren't going to

74:21

get really [ __ ] up by it until like a

74:24

few of my friends got it and got over

74:25

it.

74:26

>> Yeah.

74:26

>> And then my family got it and I didn't

74:28

get it.

74:29

>> And I thought that was crazy cuz I tried

74:31

to get it. Like I didn't

74:33

>> I didn't I hugged my kids. They were

74:35

laughing. You're going to get CO. I was

74:37

like I'm not going to get it. And part

74:39

of my head was like boy I hope I don't

74:40

get it. But

74:41

>> I never got it. I worked out and I

74:44

didn't feel so good and I said let me

74:45

just go through the paces today. And

74:47

then I worked out the next day. Same

74:48

thing. I'm like, I don't feel so good. I

74:50

feel like weak. So, I just let me do

74:52

like my kettle bell routine with like 35

74:54

pounds. Just easy. Don't push it. Just a

74:57

couple sets.

74:58

>> And so, I did that two days in a row.

74:59

And then the third day I went to the

75:01

gym. I'm like, "How do I feel?" And I'm

75:02

like, "I feel [ __ ] good." Like, I

75:04

feel great. Like, nothing feels wrong at

75:06

all. And I had a full workout and I felt

75:08

fine. So, I'm like, "All right, I guess

75:10

I didn't get it." And I went and gotten

75:11

tested to see if I had antibodies, like

75:13

if I had recovered from it. Nope. Never

75:15

got in there. Yeah, I had sex with my

75:17

wife. She was coughing and [ __ ] So also

75:19

that's such a [ __ ] beast move, dude.

75:22

She was like, "You're gonna get it."

75:23

Like, "Let's find out. Let's find out."

75:26

>> That is a beast move. I I I don't I'm

75:28

like terrible at math, but I remember

75:30

looking up like, "How likely is it to

75:32

die from this?" And it was like 0.00001

75:36

something. I was like, "Fine, man."

75:38

>> I know. But they there was so much

75:39

propaganda. And it was like the thing

75:41

was we were in the middle of doing

75:44

podcasts and we tested everybody when

75:46

they show up make sure that nobody has

75:48

it. Tested all the employees, security

75:50

guys, everybody that works for me.

75:52

Everybody got tested every day. We'd

75:54

show up be separated. Nurse would come

75:56

with a mask on, test everybody, and then

75:58

once we have the results, then we would

76:00

allow the show to go on. Yeah.

76:01

>> So I was like, I can't [ __ ] this up

76:04

because if I [ __ ] this up, I [ __ ] this

76:05

up for everybody. So I got to be

76:07

careful.

76:08

>> Yeah. Yeah. And I just didn't want my

76:09

guests like the guests were flying in.

76:11

They were taking a chance. A lot of them

76:14

were older, you know, like a lot of

76:15

professors,

76:16

>> you know, they're flying in to do this

76:19

podcast and I had to make sure and and

76:21

then someone ratted us out.

76:23

>> So the health department showed up at

76:25

the studio and they wanted us to have a

76:28

bag of masks like right when you walk

76:30

in. So we had to put a bag of masks

76:33

right there. We had to put a hand

76:34

sanitizer thing right there and then a

76:37

sign that says like what you're supposed

76:39

to do, 6 foot distancing, all that [ __ ]

76:41

I was like, "All right, but they were

76:43

saying that we weren't socially

76:44

distancing. We saw him hug people

76:47

outside the front door. That's

76:48

completely dystopian, man. That's

76:50

crazy." Yeah. I I don't know why. You

76:52

know what it was? Cuz my parents were

76:54

just like cuz you know the first time we

76:55

all hung it outside, my both my parents

76:57

were like, "Bro, this sucks. We're just

76:59

come inside. We're not doing this." And

77:00

that was like

77:01

>> Oh, my parents were terrified of me. My

77:02

parents didn't give a [ __ ] They were

77:03

like,

77:04

>> "Yeah, my parents didn't want to hang

77:05

out with anybody until they got

77:06

vaccinated." Yeah. They were real

77:08

nervous about it. They're they're older,

77:10

you know? It's like when you get older,

77:11

you know, like that's why a lot of these

77:13

people like the the Neil Young's and

77:16

Howard Sterns and all those people that

77:17

really freaked out about it, they're

77:19

older people. Yeah.

77:20

>> So to them, they're looking at they

77:22

might be that 1% that dies.

77:24

>> Yeah.

77:24

>> You know what I mean? Whereas like

77:25

you're young and healthy, you work out,

77:27

you'll be you'll probably be fine.

77:29

You'll be okay. Your wife's healthy,

77:30

you'll be fine. When you're an old

77:33

person and you you you smell death in

77:36

the air already.

77:37

>> Yeah.

77:37

>> Every day every day you wake up you're

77:39

like your [ __ ] back hurts. Oh Jesus.

77:43

You can barely get out of bed. [ __ ]

77:45

your feet are swollen. Like it could get

77:48

you.

77:48

>> Yeah. It's crazy. I'm surprised my my my

77:50

parents are like, you know, I think

77:51

they're like going to be 70 soon. They

77:52

were just kind of like

77:54

>> we don't give a [ __ ] man.

77:55

>> Depends on where you grew up. I think

77:56

that's what it was, man. They were just

77:58

kind of like, you know, they're all just

77:59

like [ __ ] that. You know, it's [ __ ]

78:01

No matter what it was, they were it was

78:03

[ __ ] [ __ ]

78:04

>> Yeah. If you grow up hard, you're not

78:06

worried about a cough.

78:07

>> Yeah. They weren't I I remember I

78:08

finally got it. I finally got it. And

78:10

Dude, it kind of like rocks me the first

78:11

day. I had talked so much [ __ ] and I got

78:14

it. I was like, "Bro, if I die, this is

78:16

going to suck so bad." It's like, but we

78:19

got it. Me and my wife got it two days

78:20

later. So then I had, you know, a little

78:22

kid. So I had to like we just switched

78:23

off. I kind of was like recovered

78:24

enough. So we were Our kid never got it

78:26

>> was around us.

78:27

>> Kids can go right through it. My my um

78:31

both of my kids got it and they just

78:33

burned through it. One of them had it

78:35

more, but she's like a little more

78:36

sensitive. She she was pretty sick for a

78:39

couple days. Not pretty, not like scary,

78:41

but like she didn't feel good for a

78:42

couple days. The other one like barely

78:43

had it. It like went right through her.

78:46

>> Yeah. Yeah. The one didn't get it all.

78:47

The one like a runny nose. I was like in

78:49

bed for three straight days just like

78:51

>> hurting.

78:52

>> Super fever, hurting.

78:53

>> Were you taking any vitamins at the

78:54

time?

78:55

>> No. At the time I wasn't living very

78:56

healthy.

78:56

>> That's the thing. Yeah, I'm all over the

78:58

vitamins. And I was all over the

79:00

vitamins then. And my wife back then, I

79:02

don't think not so much.

79:03

>> Yeah.

79:03

>> I don't think she did as much. So when I

79:06

was around everybody that got it, it

79:07

just never got to me.

79:08

>> Yeah. No, I was got And I We had like,

79:11

you know, relative newborn kind of

79:13

situation going on. And it was just

79:14

>> That's a hard one. Your immune system is

79:16

going to be crushed anyway because

79:18

you're getting zero sleep.

79:19

>> Yeah.

79:20

>> Everybody's like ready to fall asleep at

79:22

any given time watching TV.

79:24

>> I've never recovered. I'm still ready to

79:26

pass out. Like I can fall asleep. I go

79:28

home and I'm I'm fried. I take naps.

79:30

That was a big thing for coffee. Now I

79:31

can take naps during the day. I can't

79:32

take naps when I drink coffee.

79:34

>> Oh, I never take naps.

79:35

>> Oh, I love them, man. A little siesta.

79:37

>> The only time I ever take a nap is if I

79:39

have to do something really early in the

79:41

morning. So, like if I do a set at night

79:43

and I'm not home until like 12:30 and

79:45

like maybe I have to get up at 6 or

79:47

something,

79:48

>> I'll take a little nap.

79:49

>> Yeah. Yeah,

79:50

>> just because for me there's a balance of

79:53

like what is what's more important?

79:54

Getting things done, working out, or not

79:57

getting into a deficit? And for me, it's

79:59

not getting into a deficit. Cuz when I

80:01

like if I do a podcast and I'm sleepy, I

80:04

get so mad at myself. I'm like, what are

80:06

you doing? Like this is your one job.

80:09

>> Be awake and talk to people.

80:11

>> Sleepy like a toddler. Just

80:13

>> Oh, wow. That's cool. So, how long were

80:15

you in Indonesia for?

80:18

>> It is embarrassing. You're like, "What

80:19

the fuck?"

80:20

>> It's the worst. And then I'm just

80:21

drinking coffee and energy drinks and

80:23

taking nicotine pouches and just trying

80:25

to fire the brain up.

80:27

>> Yeah. Then I when I do that, my face

80:28

just gets hot and I'm just anxious. It's

80:30

like that's why especially for shows

80:32

like I try to travel like I leave like

80:34

on an early early flight, get where I'm

80:36

going and just take a big nap

80:38

>> and then I wake up and go do the show.

80:40

>> One thing that I started doing when I

80:42

was on the road a lot was I would go in

80:43

on Thursday if I had a show on Friday.

80:46

Yeah.

80:46

>> So, I would get in Thursday night,

80:49

>> sleep,

80:50

>> and then instead of flying in the day of

80:52

the show cuz you're always a little

80:54

foggy. You're, you know, it's hard to

80:57

>> and back then I wasn't on the neutropics

80:59

as much. I wasn't like taking it with me

81:01

on the road, you know, brain vitamins

81:03

and [ __ ] like Alpha Brain,

81:05

>> but now I don't [ __ ] around. I don't

81:07

travel without that stuff.

81:08

>> Yeah. No, you do need I I do the day of.

81:10

I I can't help it. I just go early, nap.

81:13

I did a show in Vegas last weekend that

81:15

like it didn't start till 1000 p.m.

81:16

Vegas time.

81:18

>> I got there I was It was brutal. I got

81:20

there, took a nap, woke up at like 900

81:23

p.m. Vegas time. It was just like uh I

81:25

felt like a bug. You know what my uh

81:27

trick for that is? The moment you land,

81:30

the moment you land, put your [ __ ] in

81:32

your hotel room, go straight to the gym.

81:34

>> Yeah.

81:35

>> No ifs or buts about it. You got to get

81:38

a workout in and got to sweat. Like

81:40

really sweat. just really get it going.

81:43

>> Do do some push-ups, whatever the [ __ ]

81:45

you want to do, but just really sweat

81:48

>> and then it feels like it resets your

81:49

system. I can see that. That would wake

81:51

you up and kind of calm you down. Yeah,

81:52

it it resets your system. Like whatever

81:55

the [ __ ] happens when you're on a plane,

81:56

when you get off, you just like,

81:58

>> dude, I feel like I've been microwaved.

82:00

I get off a plane.

82:00

>> Well, you have been kind of.

82:01

>> Yeah, pretty much. I feel I smell weird.

82:04

>> It's like a X-ray. You're getting X-ray.

82:06

>> Oh, [ __ ]

82:06

>> Try not to. The other day I was like,

82:08

maybe it's like good for me somehow. I'm

82:10

up here and it's like it's just like

82:12

constricting my blood vessels and they

82:13

like

82:14

>> turning into a superhero.

82:15

>> Well, I I like was in Denver and I ran,

82:17

you know, recently I was like running

82:18

and working out in Denver and I was like

82:21

probably altered now. I did like a

82:22

30-minute workout. I'm like I'm probably

82:23

totally different now. Well, I lived

82:25

above Boulder for a while.

82:27

>> Oh, yeah.

82:27

>> Yeah. And then uh I had a gig in Philly,

82:30

so uh I was living up there for a couple

82:32

of months. I was living at 8,500 feet

82:34

above sea level and I'd work out up

82:35

there. And then when I'd go down to

82:38

Boulder at 5,500, I had all this

82:40

endurance. I was like, "This is crazy."

82:41

>> Oh, in Denver. Yeah. From Boulder to

82:43

Denver, you're saying?

82:43

>> No. From where I was, I was in the

82:45

mountains above Boulder. And so I'd go

82:47

down to Boulder. Got Boulder's like 55,

82:51

57, whatever it is. But I was at 85.

82:54

>> Damn.

82:55

>> Yeah. 8,500 feet above sea level.

82:56

>> Yeah. That's a lot.

82:57

>> So then I went I did a gig in Philly and

82:59

I went to the gym and I remember I

83:00

called my friend. I'm like, "Dude, I

83:01

feel like I could run through a [ __ ]

83:03

wall.

83:04

>> Damn, I want that so bad." That's what

83:06

why a lot of athletes train like they

83:08

they go to Big Bear in California. They

83:10

train up there.

83:11

>> Damn. I kind of Yeah, I got I got to do

83:14

it for like just once and I was like,

83:15

"Dude, this is awesome."

83:16

>> Yeah. If you can live at altitude and

83:18

train at altitude and then go down to

83:19

sea level, you feel like you have

83:20

superpower.

83:21

>> [ __ ] that's awesome.

83:22

>> So, a lot of endurance athletes, like

83:24

that's why they put the Olympic training

83:25

center in Colorado Springs.

83:26

>> That makes sense.

83:27

>> Yeah. Like training at altitude is a

83:29

legit hack.

83:30

>> Yeah. I didn't I didn't realize like cuz

83:32

I've always wondered like why is it so

83:33

hard? And it's literally just the air

83:35

thins and there's less oxygen. It's that

83:36

simple.

83:37

>> And then your body has to adapt so you

83:38

get more red blood cells. That's why

83:40

they take EPO. That's what EPO does for

83:42

you.

83:42

>> Oh, you don't have to go to altitude.

83:44

>> Well, um I think a lot of them do both,

83:47

you know? They just go as hard as they

83:49

push it to that like how much before I

83:52

get a stroke.

83:52

>> True.

83:54

>> I'm trying to win a gold medal. I'm

83:56

trying to win the tour to France.

83:58

>> Dude, I just started I started sprinting

83:59

again. like

84:00

>> sprinting

84:01

>> sprinting just all out total sprints and

84:03

just to like see where I was at because

84:05

I'm like you know I'm like if I feel

84:06

like if you just stop you could feel

84:08

that like you know age creep in a little

84:11

bit and there's a lot I think there's a

84:12

lot of mental stuff to be like ah you

84:13

know man it just [ __ ] goes but like

84:15

you know if you're not like testing it

84:16

you know how do you know you're just not

84:18

letting yourself go anyway? So I like I

84:20

was like doing it I haven't been running

84:21

like that in forever and dude like my

84:23

fingertips would be numb. I would do 100

84:24

I would do I would do 100 meter sprints

84:26

and I like can't feel my hand.

84:30

Now I can.

84:32

>> Now I can. I fixed it. And now I because

84:34

you like grow new veins and [ __ ]

84:36

>> I swear to God it's true.

84:37

>> Are you a doctor?

84:38

>> I don't know. I just I have grock, dude.

84:40

We're all equal now.

84:42

>> But dude, I remember like let me see

84:43

where I'm at. And I was like,

84:45

>> "Bro, you really do. You use it or lose

84:47

it, man." And I can run now. I did it

84:48

this morning. I I can sprint now and

84:50

like I don't get numb.

84:51

>> It's pretty awesome.

84:52

>> How do you do it? Do you go to a track?

84:53

>> I have a track. Yeah. A track near my

84:55

house and I just [ __ ] bolt early.

84:56

Super early in the morning. You feel

84:58

amazing.

84:58

>> Wow.

84:59

>> All day.

85:00

>> And so you just pick a certain amount of

85:01

distance you're going to run.

85:03

>> Yeah. I'll do like some day like today I

85:05

did like two 300s, two 200s and then

85:08

like we're supposed to do four 150s. I

85:10

got two and I was like I'm tapped.

85:11

>> So you're done at like 15 20 minutes.

85:13

>> You're you're done. You go there. I'm

85:15

I'm there at like 6:00 and I'm done in

85:18

20 minutes and I'm I'm You feel like

85:20

it's like you were talking about you run

85:21

to a city and just get like an allout

85:23

workout.

85:23

>> Yeah. you feel like like you're walking

85:25

on air for the rest of the day.

85:27

>> That makes sense. There was a study

85:29

recently about explosive exercise and

85:32

that that's one of the things that's

85:33

lacking in like older people as they get

85:35

older, they stop doing any kind of

85:37

explosive exercise like sprinting.

85:38

>> Yeah.

85:39

>> And how beneficial that is for

85:41

maintaining your health and your ability

85:43

to move around.

85:44

>> Dude, I'm telling you, like I I that was

85:46

like such a drastic thing, but I was

85:47

like, damn, this my circulation is like

85:49

going like I can't [ __ ] run without

85:51

my hands feeling all like pins and

85:52

needley. That's so weird.

85:53

>> And it just they came back. Now I can do

85:55

it. My fingers feel fine.

85:56

>> You get in shape.

85:57

>> Yeah. It's pretty nuts cuz that that was

85:58

the thing. Cardio was always like

86:00

cardio's dumb. Who cares? And then

86:01

you're like I learned I think it just

86:03

like you secrete growth hormone and then

86:05

your veins and capillaries start like

86:07

you get literally you get like new and

86:09

wider veins.

86:10

>> Make sense?

86:11

>> It's pretty cool.

86:11

>> Makes sense. I mean your heart is

86:13

[ __ ] pounding out of your chest.

86:14

Yeah.

86:15

>> You're hitting 180 beats per minute.

86:17

It's like [ __ ] forcing all that [ __ ]

86:19

through.

86:20

just clearing it out like all right

86:22

let's what are we holding on to right

86:23

now

86:24

>> see like you never got fat or you never

86:26

got like really badly out of shape when

86:28

you see a guy like Jelly Roll like I

86:31

have so much respect for that man

86:34

>> I have so much respect for that man that

86:37

dude lost 300 lb

86:39

>> dude how

86:40

>> he lost 300 pounds no ompic just stopped

86:45

eating sugar was no oicmp

86:47

he's he took testosterone replacement

86:49

that's That's [ __ ] sick.

86:51

>> Sick. He started off. I was like, he's

86:54

got to be on those epic.

86:55

>> He started off just walking, man.

86:56

>> That's awesome.

86:57

>> Just trying to walk when he came here.

86:58

We last time we did a podcast, he ran I

87:01

forget. I think he ran 6.2 miles the day

87:04

before.

87:05

>> So they ran like they he was deer

87:07

hunting down in South Texas and he was

87:10

with my friend Cam Haynes and they went

87:11

on a run. They did 6.2 miles. They ran

87:14

and hills and [ __ ]

87:15

>> Yeah.

87:15

>> And then he came in here uh before the

87:18

podcast he ran 2.6. six on the

87:20

treadmill. So, I was working out and he

87:22

was over there running and talking and

87:24

laughing. Look how good he looks.

87:26

>> Yeah.

87:26

>> How crazy is that?

87:28

>> [ __ ] nuts.

87:28

>> It's amazing. It's amazing.

87:31

>> And we did the whole deal. We did the

87:32

sauna afterwards. It was awesome.

87:35

>> How long How long did he lose it? Three

87:37

years.

87:37

>> Three years.

87:38

>> God damn. That's crazy.

87:39

>> And he did it the right way. He did it

87:41

the hard way. Just working out and

87:43

eating right. No sugar, no [ __ ]

87:45

eating clean food. and just slowly let

87:48

his body drop. I

87:51

>> mean, he's got to feel and he's got to

87:52

feel awesome.

87:53

>> Yeah, it's got to be amazing.

87:55

>> Damn. How does he say that's doing like

87:57

career-wise if he has like a persona and

87:58

he's know like this, you know? I guess

88:00

it's fant.

88:01

>> He's got an amazing voice.

88:03

>> Yeah.

88:04

>> I mean, the the amazing voice is still

88:06

amazing.

88:07

>> Yeah. Well, it your voice changes with

88:08

fluctuation with weight a little bit.

88:10

Yeah. I'm sure.

88:10

>> How does it change?

88:11

>> I don't know. I've heard like if you're

88:12

like an alto or something like that and

88:14

you're a certain you're at a certain

88:16

weight, it can change if you kind of cuz

88:17

this is your your diaphragm I guess in

88:19

your stomach.

88:20

>> I know some dudes who lost a lot of

88:21

weight and they didn't like the way they

88:22

look when they were thin cuz their head

88:24

was too big.

88:25

>> Yeah.

88:25

>> Ain't that weird? Yeah.

88:26

>> Like your head gets big when you get

88:27

heavier.

88:28

>> Yeah. They Oh, it just grows. Yeah, it

88:30

makes sense if it grows your [ __ ]

88:31

body.

88:32

>> Significant weight loss can change a

88:34

person's voice, often making it sound

88:35

higher pitched, lighter, or clear due to

88:37

reduced fat accumulation around the

88:39

larynx, throat, and chest. These

88:41

physical changes decrease pressure on

88:42

the vocal cords, improving breathing,

88:45

resonance, and reducing the effort

88:46

required to produce sound.

88:48

>> So, it makes you a better singer.

88:49

>> But does it though? Because like opera

88:51

singers, aren't they all fat?

88:52

>> I think so. Classic.

88:53

>> I wonder if you have to be.

88:55

>> I don't know.

88:55

>> Are there any like really thin like

88:57

handsome opera singers?

88:59

>> Yeah. I don't know about all fat. I

89:00

think it's like

89:01

>> I like the just generals. I think it's

89:02

like a thing.

89:04

>> It's a cartoon. I have the same thing.

89:06

I'm like, yeah, I've seen that in

89:06

cartoons as well.

89:08

always the big fat jolly guys.

89:10

>> Fat lady with Viking helmet.

89:11

>> Yeah, it's always

89:12

>> But that sounds good though. So your

89:14

voice gets clearer, higher pitched

89:15

>> and it's not as much effort.

89:17

>> Yeah. Sounds like that's R&B legend

89:18

status then. You can do high notes.

89:20

>> Cat cardio. Like you'll have way more

89:22

cardio. Like you'll you your heart won't

89:24

beat as fast. You'll be able to have

89:26

more oxygen to sing.

89:27

>> Yeah, dude.

89:27

>> It's all good.

89:28

>> Yeah, that's awesome.

89:29

>> I mean his voice is amazing. And it's

89:32

his songwriting, too. It's not just the

89:33

voice. It's like what he's singing

89:35

about. But it's like that's not going to

89:36

get any worse.

89:37

>> Yeah. And his his fans I'm I have it

89:38

like a weird thing in my head where like

89:40

for comedy I'm like if I get too good of

89:42

shape people are going to be like [ __ ]

89:43

this guy which I don't that's not what's

89:45

stopping me but it's like you always

89:47

wonder about that. Like I wonder if

89:48

they'd be like damn

89:49

>> right.

89:50

>> You know what I mean?

89:51

>> Well that is a weird thing. Like I never

89:54

>> on stage with a t-shirt on.

89:55

>> Yeah. If you're too jacked. Yeah.

89:57

>> Yeah. Like I would never go on stage

89:59

with a tank top on.

90:00

>> Tank would be Tank might be kind of

90:02

funny. Tank would be kind of funny.

90:03

Crazy.

90:04

>> That would be crazy.

90:06

>> Rich Voss used to do that all the time.

90:07

He always worked up on stage.

90:09

>> That makes perfect sense.

90:11

>> Yeah. Boss. Yeah. Character like Kid

90:14

Rock style.

90:15

>> I just saw Yeah. I just saw Did you see

90:17

the workout vid?

90:18

>> No. What do you mean?

90:20

>> You didn't see the Kid Rock Kennedy

90:22

workout vid?

90:22

>> Shut up. You didn't see this?

90:24

>> No. You said you did it off social

90:26

media, so you must have really got off

90:27

social media.

90:27

>> I'm off social media,

90:28

>> dude. It is It's very funny. I'm off

90:32

social media, but apparently I'm not off

90:33

the [ __ ] news, which I think I have

90:35

to be off now cuz I haven't been gone on

90:37

social media, but I'll read the Apple

90:38

news feed and the Google news feed. I'm

90:40

like, [ __ ]

90:41

>> That's basically scrolling, too. I I

90:42

tried the same thing.

90:43

>> I was reading about B-52s headed to some

90:46

Air Force base nuclear equipped B-5. I'm

90:49

like, what are we doing?

90:50

>> Yeah.

90:51

>> So, let me see this workout video. It's

90:52

Kid Rock and Oh, Jesus Christ, bro.

90:55

>> Oh, this must be uh Kid Rock's house.

90:57

>> Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

90:58

>> Rock out workout.

91:02

RFK Jr. works out in jeans.

91:04

>> Yeah, he's Look, he he always works out

91:06

in jeans, which is so crazy. Yeah, this

91:09

is Kid Rock's house. Kid Rock has a

91:11

[ __ ] insane house that looks like the

91:13

White House. He had like the outside of

91:15

it looks like the White House, but the

91:17

inside of it has two bedrooms and it's

91:20

like 25,000 square ft. It's an enormous

91:23

house with two bedrooms.

91:24

>> Yeah. It's all just party.

91:26

>> He's got a huge like uh hot tub room.

91:28

Look at RFK Junior's [ __ ] jack, dude.

91:31

>> Awesome.

91:32

>> For 70 on the a dine. Look at him doing

91:34

push-ups. These guys are doing the air a

91:36

dine in the sauna.

91:37

>> I know.

91:38

>> Wild.

91:39

>> Yeah. I think they go to his like

91:41

>> cold plunge with jeans on. Jeans are

91:43

doing crazy.

91:44

>> What the [ __ ] are you doing? That is

91:46

ridiculous. What's wrong with your legs?

91:47

Now I need to know.

91:49

>> Where's kid?

91:50

>> So this is his uh crazy room that looks

91:53

like a mining like cavern.

91:55

>> I've heard of a secret.

91:56

>> He's got like this. It's really cool.

91:59

He's really into pickle ball, too. He

92:00

plays pickle ball every morning.

92:01

>> Yeah.

92:02

>> That was what he was telling me. He go

92:03

get up at play pickle ball 7 am every

92:05

pickle ball. He's like, "Dude, I [ __ ]

92:07

love that's what it looks like. Look at

92:08

how dope that is. His house is so dope.

92:11

Like it's so it's the [ __ ] dopest

92:13

house I've ever seen in my life."

92:15

>> Yeah, that's awesome.

92:15

>> And it's such a kid rock house. Like the

92:17

outside of it looks exactly like the

92:19

White House.

92:20

>> That's just larger.

92:22

>> I don't want you to be distracted from

92:23

the whole milk they're drinking in the

92:24

hot tub.

92:24

>> Oh, they're drinking raw.

92:25

>> That's raw. That's raw, bro. Yeah. Um,

92:28

can I bring your attention to something

92:30

that's been happening on the internet

92:31

since we've been live?

92:32

>> Yes.

92:33

>> Uh, President Trump was asked about

92:35

Obama talking about the aliens. I got a

92:39

video on the screen.

92:39

>> Oh, perfect.

92:40

>> I want to hear it myself.

92:41

>> Yeah.

92:42

>> Barack Obama said that aliens are real.

92:46

Have you seen any evidence of nonhuman

92:49

visitors to Earth?

92:50

>> Well, he gave classified information.

92:52

He's not supposed to be doing that, you

92:54

know.

92:54

>> So, aliens are real.

92:55

>> Well, I don't know if they're real or

92:56

not. I can tell you he gave classified

92:58

information. He's not supposed to be

92:59

doing that. He made He made a big

93:02

mistake. He took it out of classified

93:04

information. No, I don't I don't have an

93:06

opinion on it. I never talk about it. A

93:08

lot of people do. A lot of people

93:10

believe it.

93:12

>> Do you believe it, Peter?

93:13

>> Well, the president

93:14

>> I do now.

93:18

>> I may get him out of trouble by

93:19

declassifying.

93:20

>> We know illegal aliens.

93:21

>> I may get him out of trouble by

93:23

declassifying. That's hilarious.

93:24

>> What else? That was it.

93:26

>> Ah,

93:27

>> what's going around the internet these

93:28

uh in the circles of these

93:30

>> I may get him out of trouble by

93:31

declassifying

93:33

Jeez, I I hope he does.

93:35

>> Yeah. Really?

93:36

>> Yeah. You imagine you can go to you can

93:38

get in trouble as a president for saying

93:40

aliens are real?

93:41

>> I I don't think so, man. I I don't think

93:43

he's going to get in trouble for that.

93:44

>> Well, what did he say then? What was

93:45

that?

93:46

>> They've been saying there's aliens. But

93:48

what did he just say?

93:48

>> He was just He just hates Obama. He's

93:50

going like, "Oh, he's going to jail. I'm

93:52

getting Hillary and I'm getting Obama

93:54

for aliens. They all hate each other and

93:56

then they all hang out and shake hands.

93:57

>> Yeah. Yeah. Though whose funeral was

93:59

that when like George Bush and them were

94:00

handing out candy to each other? It's

94:02

like George Bush and

94:03

>> Well, George Bush and Michelle Obama are

94:04

apparently friends.

94:05

>> Oh, they're buddies.

94:06

>> Yeah. Okay.

94:06

>> Which everybody thought but George Bush

94:08

never engaged in like this insult kind

94:11

of thing that Trump does. True.

94:13

>> It's a different thing.

94:14

>> Yeah. It's totally No, that's

94:15

>> He was always very classy.

94:17

>> Yeah.

94:17

>> Yeah.

94:18

>> And especially when you see the videos

94:19

of him back in the day, like now you're

94:21

like, man, this guy's like lovable.

94:22

>> Oh, dude. In comparison to the

94:24

politicians saying yeah

94:26

>> he was like oh when is he running again

94:28

>> class the guy's a complete class act and

94:30

then you're like oh yeah [ __ ] Middle

94:31

East forgot about that but it's like

94:33

>> oh yeah well he had Satan on his side.

94:35

>> Yeah true

94:37

>> Dick Cheney was

94:38

>> true

94:38

>> running around [ __ ] shooting his

94:40

friends in the face and hunting trips.

94:42

>> That's true. I don't know. I mean that

94:43

thing is like did it was it classifi?

94:46

There's like now but then if Trump's

94:47

going to be like that he gave out

94:49

classified then he's letting you know

94:50

it's classified and he's telling you the

94:51

cat's out of the bags. Well, he's saying

94:53

I may declassify it.

94:55

>> I hope he does. I hope this like gets

94:58

him cuz that is a weird thing to say.

95:01

He's not supposed to be saying that.

95:03

Well, that means it's real. He gave out

95:05

classified information. That means

95:07

there's real data that aliens are real.

95:09

That's the only thing you could draw as

95:11

a conclusion from that statement.

95:12

>> Yeah.

95:13

>> Right.

95:14

>> Yeah. You would think

95:14

>> I think I don't think it's I would try

95:16

like try to come up with another

95:18

reasonable way he would say aliens are

95:21

real. You shouldn't say that because

95:22

it's classified.

95:24

>> Yeah,

95:24

>> that means it's real.

95:26

>> Yeah, it is. But that's like that's such

95:27

a crazy If Trump was trying to keep it

95:29

classified, you think he'd be like, I

95:30

don't know what he's talking about.

95:31

>> Well, I don't know, dude.

95:32

>> Being like, well, yeah, they are, but I

95:33

can't say they are, and he's in trouble

95:34

now.

95:35

>> I told you I've talked to Bob Lazar many

95:37

times.

95:38

>> Oh, yeah, they are.

95:39

>> I had them on the podcast. I had dinner

95:40

with him when Andrew Schultz I I Schultz

95:42

was in in town in LA. I go, "What are

95:45

you doing tonight?" And he goes, "Why?

95:46

What's up?" I go, "You want to go have

95:48

dinner with Bob Lazar? He's the guy that

95:49

used to back engineer UFOs at Area 51.

95:52

He goes, "Fuck yes."

95:54

>> Damn.

95:54

>> All right. So, we went to Fogo to Chow

95:56

in LA and we sat down with Bob Lazar

96:00

>> and just got to ask him all these

96:01

questions. I've talked I've known him

96:03

for years now. So, I've known him for

96:05

probably when I did the podcast with

96:07

him. What year was that Jamie?

96:09

>> 2019.

96:11

>> 2019. So, I've known him for six, seven

96:14

years now. Okay. Whatever. However it

96:16

runs out timewise. and

96:19

he's always had the same story. He's a

96:21

very reasonable guy. You hang out with

96:22

I've had dinner with him a couple times.

96:25

>> Super normal guy. Doesn't seem like a

96:26

big fat liar. Obviously a scientist.

96:29

Like obviously like a very brilliant

96:31

guy. Like I don't know what to think. I

96:34

I want I keep searching for some

96:36

[ __ ] I keep searching for some

96:38

thing. He never saw any aliens. He never

96:40

saw anything. He just was backineering

96:43

these crafts that didn't make any sense.

96:45

He's like he he got there. He saw it.

96:48

The moment he saw it, it looked like

96:49

that thing. That's what it's based on.

96:50

That's that thing on the desk. That's

96:52

the sport model.

96:54

>> Jesus Christ.

96:55

>> There's a guy named Designs by Perry and

96:58

the E and Perry is a three and he makes

97:01

these. You could buy them on the

97:02

internet. He makes a like a desk clock

97:04

or a desk lamp rather.

97:06

>> So he'd have to like examine the like

97:08

motor or whatever the mechanisms of

97:10

that.

97:11

>> They didn't even tell him what he was

97:12

doing. So this is what it was. So he

97:14

worked at Los Alamos. Los Alamos Labs in

97:17

New Mexico. And um he was a propulsions

97:20

expert. He had famously put a jet engine

97:23

on the back of a Honda. Like he built a

97:26

Honda with a jet engine on it just for

97:28

funsies. He was just a just a genius. He

97:31

just loved engineering and doing things.

97:34

>> And uh he had contacted this guy about

97:36

getting some work some you know work in

97:40

laboratories or whatever. and he said,

97:42

"I might have something for you that uh

97:45

is more along the lines with your

97:47

capabilities. I'm gonna set up a meeting

97:50

for you." So, he sets up this meeting

97:51

for him. He has no idea what the meeting

97:53

is about. He has no idea what they're

97:54

doing. They don't tell him. They just

97:56

start asking him about his background,

97:57

what he did at Los Alamos, what what

97:59

he's interested in, and he's like just

98:01

tells his whole story of science and

98:03

this and that.

98:04

>> And so, they had already heard about

98:05

him. So, they go, "Okay, show up at this

98:08

place. um there's airplanes that are

98:10

going to fly you out to where you're

98:12

going. So he's like, "Okay." So no one

98:14

even knew about these airplanes back

98:16

then. Now it's been confirmed that

98:17

there's a bunch of airplanes right

98:18

outside of Mandalay Bay. You could see

98:20

these airplanes that they fly the

98:22

employees uh that work in Area 51 and

98:26

they live in Las Vegas. They just fly

98:27

them out there. But nobody knew about

98:29

this in 1989 when he was talking about

98:31

it when he blew the whistle on it.

98:33

>> Yeah. Yeah.

98:33

>> And so they fly him out there. They, you

98:36

know, show him how everything works for

98:39

a couple days in terms of like how the

98:41

base works and where you have access to,

98:43

what you don't have access to. They

98:44

bring him this guy that is his co-orker

98:46

that was there before and then it was

98:48

kind of going to show him the ropes

98:50

>> and then a couple days in they bring him

98:52

into a hanger and there's that thing and

98:56

it has American flag sticker on it and

98:58

so he goes, "Oh, these are ours." He's

99:02

like, "Oh my god, no wonder why people

99:05

are seeing these things. This is

99:06

something that we have."

99:08

>> So then they tell him essentially, "Tell

99:11

us how it works."

99:13

>> He's like, "What is this, a test? Like

99:14

what?" Like they're very vague about

99:16

everything.

99:17

>> No one's telling him where it came from.

99:18

No one's telling him anything. And then

99:20

he realizes like the whole thing doesn't

99:22

make sense cuz there's no welds. There's

99:24

no seams. It's like it's 3D printed and

99:28

you have to crawl in it because it's

99:29

designed for people that are like 3 feet

99:31

tall.

99:32

>> And there's no controls in it. It's like

99:34

what is this? And there's this generator

99:38

in the center of it that has this

99:41

triangle piece of this element that

99:44

doesn't even exist on Earth. This

99:46

element 115. He's like, "Wait, what the

99:48

[ __ ] is going on?" And they explained to

99:52

him, "You bombard this element with

99:54

radiation. this is how this thing works.

99:56

You put this dome on it, gets bombarded

99:57

with radiation, and then that causes

100:00

this field around this craft that allows

100:03

you to move around. And so they do a

100:05

demonstration for him. He goes outside,

100:07

they fly this thing. When he's under it,

100:10

he can't see it. He has to step away

100:14

from where he is so he can see it again.

100:17

He's like, "What the [ __ ] is this thing?

100:19

It's not making any noise. It moves

100:21

around. And it gives off this like

100:23

glowing light when whatever that

100:26

whatever this generator inside of it is

100:28

is operational. It gives off this blue

100:31

glowing light. And this thing was like

100:32

silently flying around. And occasionally

100:34

it would go from one point to another

100:37

very quickly. Like it could go from like

100:39

this part of the mountain to that part

100:42

of the mountain just appear there. And

100:44

it would look like it just disappeared

100:45

because it would move so fast. It would

100:47

just appear in a new place. It seemed

100:49

like

100:49

>> What was steering the thing? I don't

100:51

understand it. And he didn't understand

100:53

it either. They they don't exactly know.

100:56

He knows how supposedly this generator,

101:00

there's these gravity beam projectors

101:03

that are on the bottom of it. And the

101:04

way you get it to fly fast, it would

101:07

turn sideways and then it would point

101:09

these gravity projectors or whatever

101:11

they called it into a certain direction.

101:13

It would create this this void around

101:17

this craft and it would just

101:19

instantaneously go to wherever it was

101:21

supposed to go.

101:22

>> [ __ ] dude. That's crazy,

101:24

>> right? And so he's working on this for,

101:26

you know, months and months and then his

101:28

wife starts having an affair on him

101:30

because he doesn't tell her what he's

101:33

doing. It's like super top secret. And

101:35

so when you have the super top secret

101:36

clearance, you can't tell anybody what

101:39

you're doing.

101:40

>> So he's like, "I got to go to work."

101:41

She's like, "It's 11:00 at night. where

101:43

are you going? He's like, I have to go

101:44

to work. So, he would just jet off and

101:46

she was like, well, I'm going to go [ __ ]

101:48

my flight attendant or my flight uh

101:50

instructor.

101:51

>> So, this is all recorded because they're

101:54

tapping his phones.

101:55

>> And so, they they suspend him because

101:59

they're wondering if he's going to be

102:01

emotionally unstable. So, while he's

102:03

suspended, he takes his friends. He's

102:05

like, I got to tell people about this.

102:06

Like, I can't even work. Something's

102:08

going on. I gotta tell these people

102:09

like, "Hey, the every Wednesday I have

102:11

the schedule. Every Wednesday they fly

102:13

these [ __ ] things." And the reason

102:15

why they do it on Wednesday is guess

102:16

that's when there's the least amount of

102:18

traffic on the roads.

102:19

>> So he takes his wife and he takes a

102:21

couple of friends and he takes them up

102:22

to see this thing and they go once and

102:24

then they go twice and then they get

102:25

caught.

102:26

>> Damn. And then when they get caught then

102:28

they grill him, they scare him. They're

102:31

poking him in the chest with a gun and

102:32

they're freaking him out and then they

102:34

tell him about his wife and the affair

102:36

and all this [ __ ] And so then he goes

102:38

public and so he gets inuh hold of this

102:41

guy George Knap who's a news reporter in

102:44

Las Vegas and he tells him the story and

102:46

first initially they black his face out

102:48

and you know like so he could remain

102:50

anonymous. He's like look the only way I

102:52

could stay alive you have to show my

102:54

face cuz they're threatening him. They

102:56

broke into his house. He goes outside.

102:58

He goes to the gym goes outside. His

102:59

trunk is open. His hood is open. All his

103:01

doors are open. The car was locked. No

103:03

one broke into it.

103:04

>> So he has no idea. They're [ __ ] with

103:06

him and he's really worried. Someone

103:08

shoots his tire out on the highway.

103:10

>> Where is he now?

103:11

>> He's

103:12

>> just chilling.

103:12

>> Well, he's I don't know if I'm supposed

103:14

to say where he lives.

103:15

>> Oh, whatever. But he's he's like around.

103:17

>> Yeah. No, he's around. I mean, this is a

103:18

long time ago. It was a long time ago.

103:21

And, you know, he was kind of

103:22

discredited. They they tried to

103:23

discredit him. They said he never worked

103:25

at Los Alamos Labs, but then someone got

103:27

a hold of the employee roster from the

103:30

time that he was working there, and his

103:31

name's listed there. So someone who

103:33

worked there at the time said, "I have

103:34

the employee roster from, you know, 1985

103:37

or whatever it was." And he says like,

103:38

"Here, right here." And you they go

103:40

through the roster and says, "Right

103:41

there, Robert Lazar."

103:43

>> And there's also a newspaper article

103:44

that was printed about him being a

103:46

physicist at Los Alamos Labs and that he

103:48

had made this crazy jet engine powered

103:50

Honda. And

103:51

>> so there's him with the Honda and he's

103:53

listed in this lab that he's a a

103:55

physicist at this lab.

103:56

>> Dude, that's that shit's so weird. So,

103:58

and and then what what that guy just

104:00

said, what Trump just said, he's not

104:02

supposed to say that. It's classified

104:03

like

104:04

>> Yeah. What? Why don't you [ __ ] tell

104:06

us?

104:07

>> Well, I always wonder if they're going

104:08

to try to do like a Space Force thing

104:10

where it's like WMD is the Middle East.

104:12

We go to the Middle East. Now they're

104:14

going like, "Yeah, I think there are

104:15

there are aliens and it's like now we

104:16

get to do like Space Force shit."

104:18

>> I I think if there are aliens, you can't

104:20

do [ __ ] to them.

104:21

>> I know. But it's also like if you want

104:22

to erect some weird defense thing in

104:24

outer space so we can spy on China. It's

104:26

like yeah I I think there's probably are

104:28

aliens for the by the way like there's I

104:30

would imagine there's something

104:32

>> imagine there's something

104:32

>> cuz the government whenever they start

104:34

floating out things like I always I

104:36

assume there's like an agenda. I'm like

104:37

all right what are they doing

104:38

>> 100%

104:39

>> cuz they just dropped aliens on us out

104:40

of nowhere and everyone was kind of like

104:42

okay

104:43

>> well it really started around 2017.

104:45

That's when it started to become

104:46

legitimized because that was when the

104:48

New York Times printed this article

104:50

about it and they talked about these

104:52

pilots and their experiences and these

104:54

videos that they couldn't explain

104:55

because these crafts had no heat

104:56

signature and they were flying in

104:58

ridiculous speeds over the ocean.

105:00

>> Yeah.

105:00

>> I I remember them just coming out with

105:02

it and then like

105:03

>> just and then they started doing the UAP

105:05

thing and all that stuff and they were

105:06

like, "Yeah, there's like unidentified

105:08

crafts and you know, blah blah blah."

105:10

So, I'm always kind of like, "What are

105:11

they up to?"

105:11

>> Yeah, it's weird.

105:12

>> What the hell are these guys up to? hard

105:14

to know what's real and what's not real.

105:16

But when you start talking to pilots and

105:18

people that have experienced certain

105:20

things,

105:22

>> you know, you just go, "Wow, what is

105:23

this guy saying?"

105:25

>> Yeah. And I again, I don't deny it. I'm

105:26

always kind of like, "Yeah, you probably

105:28

did see that stuff." But it's like, I

105:30

don't know. You know, it's like,

105:32

>> why is it classified?

105:34

>> It's got to be mil I would imagine it's

105:36

military stuff where they're like, "We

105:37

want to use it for we want to reverse

105:38

engineer and use it for our military. If

105:40

this gets into another military's hands,

105:42

blah blah blah." But then they're all

105:43

spying on each other, so I would imagine

105:45

they would know, too.

105:46

>> Well, the people that I've talked to

105:47

said that Russia and China both have

105:49

retrieved crashes.

105:50

>> Really?

105:51

>> Yeah. It's not just America that has

105:52

them. It's other countries that have

105:53

them, too.

105:54

>> Damn.

105:54

>> Supposedly, this is the big story.

105:56

>> Supposedly,

105:58

>> there's uh one that's so big that they

106:00

can't move it, so they built a building

106:02

around it. That's supposed to be in

106:04

Korea.

106:05

>> What?

106:05

>> Supposedly, that's why I heard it's in

106:07

Korea. But yeah, this is the lore that

106:09

this thing is so big that they couldn't

106:11

move it that they had to put a building

106:12

around it.

106:14

>> Dude, that's that's wild. That'll be the

106:16

the thing I always think about if they

106:18

come out and say, "Yeah, there's

106:19

definitely aliens." Like, what do people

106:21

do?

106:22

>> Yeah, this is the building supposedly.

106:24

>> A giant building is South Korea's often

106:26

sighted as a potential UFO storage

106:29

facility.

106:32

>> You imagine if they just built it the

106:33

shape of a UFO?

106:34

>> It kind of looks like it, honestly,

106:36

crazy,

106:36

>> dude. do a square building. You got

106:38

>> What's in that [ __ ] building?

106:41

>> I don't know.

106:42

>> Imagine if that's real.

106:44

>> Yeah. What is this? Why Why are they uh

106:47

Why do they think this?

106:48

>> Well, I would imagine that place would

106:50

have to be heavily guarded.

106:52

>> Yeah,

106:53

>> it was just a gate. Who's that guy? Eric

106:56

Berles insisted on the existence of

106:58

aliens, but admitted he has no

106:59

definitive proof. Okay.

107:01

>> I was talking in that video I showed you

107:02

the other day who said he was going to

107:04

go look at these places. He was going to

107:06

go look in Korea.

107:07

>> Uh he mentioned he was going to go look

107:08

at the underground one. He didn't say

107:10

where it was.

107:10

>> Oh, this is the congressman. A

107:11

congressman has claimed. So scroll

107:13

scroll down there a little lower.

107:15

>> So here it is. US congressman has

107:17

claimed classified facility housing a

107:19

UFO is hiding in plain sight. Well,

107:21

that's kind of hiding in plain sight.

107:22

They literally made a little antenna on

107:24

the top just like this sport model. Look

107:26

at this sport model. It has that antenna

107:28

on the top.

107:29

>> I don't know what to believe, man. But I

107:31

know I want to believe

107:32

>> diameter. 270 feet in diameter. Holy

107:35

[ __ ]

107:36

>> Yeah, it's [ __ ] That's insane. Yeah.

107:39

Especially now with all the deep fake

107:41

stuff that's going to come out. Like the

107:42

next election we'll be in like deep fake

107:44

territory. Everyone will be like, "You

107:45

were on the Epcene list. You were on

107:46

it." No, you were.

107:48

>> I'm like I'm just, you know,

107:49

>> you could have people saying all kinds

107:51

of things that they've never said.

107:52

>> Or being like, "I didn't do that."

107:53

>> Hanging out with people they never hung

107:54

out. I mean, there was all these photos

107:56

that were fake of Epstein with a bunch

107:57

of different people.

107:58

>> Oh, yeah. No, there was there was a

108:00

completely fake videos people were

108:01

sharing.

108:02

>> Yeah. It's like, you know, so I don't

108:03

know. By that time, it's like I've been

108:06

trying to just pull back completely from

108:07

like the news and I'm like, you know,

108:09

>> hey, what is the official story of the

108:11

Co Bear show where they had to air that

108:14

Terrio interview on YouTube because I'm

108:20

hearing two versions. I'm hearing one

108:22

version is that CBS wouldn't let them

108:24

air it because like Trump was involved,

108:27

the government was involved somehow or

108:29

another because they're worried about

108:30

this Taler Rico guys, this very uh

108:32

charismatic guy in Texas that I really

108:34

like. Very nice guy. Had him on the

108:35

show.

108:37

>> Brian Simpson told me about him. And

108:38

then the other thing that I'm hearing is

108:40

no. with FCC equal time rules. If he had

108:46

Terico on, he would also have to have

108:48

Terico's opponent, which is I think

108:50

Jasmine Crockett. Is that true?

108:53

>> I didn't even know.

108:53

>> Whoever his opponent is.

108:56

>> So, I think there's rules like that for

108:57

the FCC that don't exist for podcasts.

109:00

You know what I'm saying?

109:01

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. They have to balance it.

109:02

>> Yeah. Like, if you have this person on

109:04

that's running for office, you also have

109:06

to have someone that is opposing them,

109:08

right? They have to have equal time.

109:09

>> I didn't know they had. Is that true?

109:12

So he was on was he was on Co Bear.

109:14

Whose show was he on?

109:15

>> Yeah, Steven Coar show. Okay. And so

109:18

they were framing it like it was uh the

109:21

government was censoring this guy

109:23

because they're wor and he was saying

109:24

they're worried that they're going to

109:25

flip Texas.

109:26

>> That's what he's saying.

109:28

>> I don't know if that's true though

109:31

because I I'm

109:33

>> So it's the diff. Honestly, this sounds

109:35

like it's a Co Bear saying one thing,

109:37

CBS lawyers are saying a different

109:39

thing.

109:39

>> Okay. What are CBS lawyers saying?

109:42

>> They're saying that it's the FC FCC

109:44

thing. Coar says, quote, "Here, they

109:47

know damn well every word of my script

109:48

was approved by CBS lawyers who, for the

109:51

record, approve every script that goes

109:52

on the air."

109:53

>> Yeah, but it's not about the script.

109:54

It's about the humans, the people that

109:56

are on if the people are Yeah, here it

109:58

is. The show provided legal guidance

110:00

that the broadcast could trigger the FCC

110:02

equal time rule for two other

110:05

candidates, including Rep. Jasmine

110:07

Crockett and presented options for how

110:10

equal time for other candidates could be

110:12

fulfilled. So, you would have to have

110:15

equal time. Coar scoffed at the

110:18

statement during Tuesday's show. They

110:21

know damn well every word of my script,

110:22

but it doesn't have anything to do with

110:23

the script. Said they do know damn well

110:26

that every word of my script last night

110:27

was approved by CBS lawyers who for the

110:29

record approved every script that goes

110:31

on the air. Well, that's just diverting

110:33

because that's not what the subject is.

110:36

here.

110:36

>> Okay. I got called backstage to get more

110:39

notes from these lawyers, something that

110:41

had never ever happened before. They

110:42

told us the language they wanted me to

110:44

use to describe that equal time

110:46

exception. And I used that language,

110:49

Coar said. So, I don't know what this is

110:51

about. He went on to say he wasn't mad

110:54

at the network and does not want an

110:55

adversarial relationship. Well, he's on

110:57

his way out anyway.

110:58

>> Yeah. I thought I didn't know he still

110:59

was doing a show.

111:00

>> Yeah, he's doing it I think until like

111:02

April or May or something. Come on,

111:04

you're Paramount. No. No, no, no. You're

111:06

more than that. You're Paramount Plus,

111:07

he cracked. And for the lawyers to

111:10

release this statement without even

111:11

talking to me is really surprising. The

111:13

host also noted there's been a long,

111:15

very famous exception to the equal time

111:17

rule. And that exception included talk

111:20

shows interviews with politicians. Oh,

111:24

interesting. So, that makes it

111:25

interesting. We looked, we couldn't find

111:27

one example of this rule being enforced

111:29

for any talk show interview, not only

111:31

for my entire late night career, but for

111:34

anyone's late night career going back to

111:36

the 1960s, he said. Coar said that Carr

111:39

has not gotten rid of that exception

111:42

exception for uh talk show host yet.

111:47

Maybe

111:48

um CBS was worried that this is a rule

111:54

and that the government could crack down

111:56

on them. Although no one has ever done

111:58

that in the past.

112:00

>> So this is a different kind of

112:01

government, right? Obviously, it's a

112:02

very adversar adversarial relationship

112:06

CBS or at least

112:07

>> the Coar show has already with Trump.

112:10

>> Yeah. Well, what what are they worried

112:12

about? Who is who is Tyler? What party

112:14

is Terrio?

112:14

>> He's a Democrat.

112:15

>> Democrat. And what? Crockett. What's

112:16

Crockett?

112:17

>> She's a Democrat as well.

112:18

>> He's a Democrat, too. So, what is like

112:19

Oh, they're running against each other.

112:21

>> Exactly. Exactly.

112:22

>> Yeah. Okay. Terrio is a white guy.

112:25

>> He's a guy. His story is very

112:27

interesting. He was a school teacher.

112:28

Okay.

112:28

>> And um his story was that he had this

112:31

kid that was very troubled in his class,

112:33

but the kid was receiving counseling and

112:34

was starting to get better. But then

112:36

budgets got cut. And when budgets got

112:38

cut, they cut off the counseling. And

112:39

this kid started [ __ ] off and, you

112:42

know, acting out and really falling

112:43

apart. and he wound up getting kicked

112:45

out of school and it really hurt him

112:48

because he was like this kid had like

112:49

real potential and he is a teacher you

112:51

know.

112:51

>> Yeah.

112:52

>> And so then he decided to run for office

112:54

and to try to remedy these problems.

112:56

>> Got you.

112:57

>> So didn't he just get like jammed up

112:59

with something now or like they were

113:00

someone claimed they were in his office

113:02

and that he said something kind of like

113:04

disparaging about like a black guy

113:06

>> Terrio.

113:07

>> He's a very mild manner looking guy,

113:09

right?

113:09

>> Yeah. There was I I I don't know if I'm

113:11

getting my politics.

113:12

>> See, man, when people are running

113:14

against people, stories started flying,

113:17

>> but there was a it was about another

113:19

politician. All he said was like, "I

113:20

didn't know I was going up against, you

113:22

know, this like I don't know, I guess

113:24

like a whatever word he used like

113:25

electrifying black." I thought it was

113:26

going up against a mediocre black guy.

113:29

>> That was hear. They some lady claimed

113:31

that he called Colin Alred a mediocre

113:34

black man. faced allegations that he

113:36

referred to his opponent Colin all red

113:38

as a mediocre black man during a private

113:41

conversation with an influencer. An

113:43

influencer.

113:44

>> Yeah.

113:44

>> A comment Rep. Taller Rico has denied.

113:46

The allegation caused significant

113:48

backlash with all red calling for

113:50

supporters to vote for another

113:51

candidate, Jasmine Crockett.

113:53

>> Oh,

113:53

>> yeah. So, it's like

113:55

>> Yeah, that's a way to get people to not

113:57

vote for that guy.

113:58

>> Yeah. Kind of sucks.

113:59

>> An influencer said it. an influencer was

114:01

like, "I worked in his campaign." And he

114:03

was like, "If I known I was going up

114:04

against this strong black woman, I

114:06

wouldn't have known. I thought I was

114:07

running against a mediocre black man."

114:09

And then the guy responded being like,

114:11

"Nothing about me is mediocre." You

114:13

know, they they kind of

114:14

>> into what the penalty is for the equal

114:16

time rule. And I don't really see one.

114:19

>> Poor Tal Tala is having a tough time,

114:21

especially if it sounds like he's a

114:22

sweet guy who's like trying to help kids

114:24

out. And there's, you know,

114:25

>> his name's too close to the guy that

114:26

killed Epstein.

114:28

>> What's his name?

114:28

>> I keep [ __ ] him up. I keep Tagle

114:31

Terico.

114:34

>> There's a Yeah, that's

114:35

>> I keep confusing them, but I tell when I

114:38

say the the killer's name,

114:40

>> that cop I keep saying I think his name

114:42

is Tag Leon. No, Tal Tal. No [ __ ]

114:46

>> It's going to it's going to catch up to

114:47

him. He's like, I think this guy killed

114:48

Epste actually.

114:51

>> The thing is like an influencer said

114:53

like what does that mean?

114:55

>> Yeah. I mean it's I mean look yeah it's

114:57

pretty genius though if you want to do

114:58

dirty politics you can just be like

115:00

>> but what if he said I was going I

115:01

thought I was going up against this

115:02

mediocre guy and now I'm going up

115:04

against this powerful black lady.

115:06

>> That's it's not a bad I but then he

115:08

didn't he was like you know I'd be like

115:09

that makes sense.

115:09

>> But he is a black man. So if you're

115:11

saying mediocre guy and it happens to be

115:12

a black man and then that person says he

115:15

said mediocre black man like

115:19

yeah it's not it's not even that bad of

115:20

a thing to say. All he'd have to do is

115:22

just not say the black part and he'd be

115:23

like, "Oh, he's just talking about a

115:25

politician. The guy's mediocre.

115:26

>> I know.

115:27

>> Happens to be black, but he's mediocre."

115:28

But as soon as you describe him

115:30

accurately,

115:31

>> yeah, you just you're fried.

115:32

>> Especially Especially if you're a damn

115:33

man. If you're damn, you cannot be going

115:35

>> No.

115:37

>> He's a religious guy, too, which is

115:39

interesting. But also opposes putting

115:41

the Ten Commandments in schools.

115:43

>> Okay.

115:44

>> Yeah. He said, "I think it's going to

115:45

push people away from Christianity." He

115:46

had a very well thoughtout point about

115:49

it. Yeah, we had a really good

115:50

conversation.

115:51

>> Also, you don't need to be in school and

115:52

be like, "Thou shalt not commit

115:54

adultery." It's like, "Yeah, dude.

115:55

They're not going to [ __ ] your wife."

115:56

Like,

115:57

>> it's not that. It's you're pushing this

115:59

religious rule, these religious rules on

116:01

people. And it's one religion. It's

116:03

like, what about people that are

116:04

Buddhists? What about people that are

116:05

Muslims? What about people that are

116:06

Mormons? What about

116:08

>> you can go down the list forever and

116:09

ever and ever, Hindus? Like, what do

116:11

come on.

116:12

>> Yeah. And it's also, you can, you know,

116:13

you can kind of summarize it up and like

116:16

just be nice, you know? I I I worked in

116:17

high school for a while. I was a

116:19

counselor.

116:19

>> Oh, really?

116:20

>> Yeah. I was like a I went to school for

116:21

social work for a while. And

116:23

>> so like what kind of counseling would

116:24

you do?

116:25

>> Just like therapy. I would There was it

116:26

was it was a really cool The way they

116:28

did it was like it was, you know, it was

116:29

a charter school and I was there as an

116:31

intern because I was I was getting my

116:32

masters in social work. So they would

116:34

have interns there as therapists for the

116:36

school kids basically so that the kids

116:38

could get free therapy at school if they

116:40

were exhibiting kind of problems or

116:42

whatever. M

116:43

>> so it was like I worked at a like it was

116:45

like an inner city school in Philly and

116:46

I would just go there and chill in an

116:47

office and they would just like I'd have

116:48

to get kids from class and they would

116:49

just come we would like talk a couple

116:51

times a week and then you could bring

116:53

their family in if they if they're like

116:54

they had problems at home you could be

116:55

like all right let's call the mom and

116:56

dad

116:56

>> this is what this guy was talking about

116:58

this is what Terico was talking about

116:59

what they cut funding for

117:00

>> Yeah. It's a shame because this this

117:02

school was like they kind of like ran it

117:04

the I guess they were getting funded by

117:05

the

117:06

>> uh state but they the way they got

117:08

around it was just using interns. So, it

117:09

wasn't like, you know, you're not

117:11

getting like the most experienced people

117:12

in the world,

117:13

>> but you're getting some help.

117:14

>> You're getting something, man. You know,

117:15

>> well, this kid that he was talking

117:17

about, he had this very detailed story

117:19

about this kid was like a good kid, just

117:21

came from a [ __ ] up house.

117:22

>> Mhm.

117:23

>> And he wanted and these people around

117:25

him were the only positive influences

117:27

that he had ever had and he was starting

117:28

to get better.

117:29

>> Yeah.

117:29

>> And then they took it away and he starts

117:31

falling apart.

117:32

>> Yeah. And it's dude, it's also like you

117:34

don't you forget like you know cuz there

117:36

like for kids when you like especially

117:37

like in a city and kids are telling you

117:40

like their lives. It's like it's [ __ ]

117:42

heartbreaking like the [ __ ] like the

117:44

their dayto-day setup you'd be like

117:45

[ __ ] Christ man. And then just

117:47

looking at you like what do I do? And

117:48

I'm like

117:49

>> you got to hang in there. There's

117:50

nothing I there's there's literally

117:52

nothing I can tell you to do. You just

117:53

got to hang in there and like

117:54

>> it was sad but it was it was one of like

117:56

my favorite if I didn't do standup I

117:58

would probably do that for a job.

117:59

>> Yeah.

117:59

>> I loved it. It was fun. That's well it

118:01

sounds very rewarding, right? You're

118:03

actually helping people.

118:04

>> Yeah. And you have to it's just like

118:05

intense. You're just sitting there in a

118:07

room with somebody and it's like

118:08

everything they're saying. There's no

118:09

like guidance. You have to just be like,

118:11

"All right, well, like maybe this, maybe

118:12

that." And it's like a I don't know. I

118:14

felt really I always liked it a lot. It

118:15

was pretty cool. But then you would like

118:18

>> you go back to the school and I I it's

118:20

so funny. I went to social work school

118:22

just because I was doing standup. I was

118:23

kind of kicking around. I was like I was

118:24

doing the podcast, but it was like

118:26

slowgoing. And I remember watching

118:27

Jordan Peterson be like, "The schools

118:29

are crazy right now." And part of me

118:31

like I always I wanted to be a therapist

118:32

but I remember being like kind of

118:34

curious like I wonder how bad they are.

118:36

And I went to school I went to my

118:37

master's program in social work which

118:39

was like ground zero for all like the

118:41

stuff he was talking about. And he was

118:42

dude it was it was literally like worse

118:44

than he made it out to be.

118:46

>> What was it like?

118:46

>> It was insane dude. It was literally

118:48

like you know I went to school again to

118:50

be a therapist but like social work you

118:53

can be a therapist faster than if you go

118:54

to school for psychology because you

118:56

just like don't need any of the science

118:58

really. you just study kind of like the

118:59

theory and you know whatever. So you can

119:01

be a therapist quicker. It's like a

119:02

shortcut kind of. But it would be like

119:05

it was just you'd be in a room with like

119:06

13 other people and they would like you

119:08

know you talk about whatever it be like

119:11

let's let's talk about like clinical

119:13

approaches here and there and it would

119:14

just right away turn into like race,

119:16

gender, who's the most oppressed, do

119:18

this and it was just like people would

119:20

tell stories like one time this guy said

119:22

this to me and everyone like I can't

119:23

believe that [ __ ] guy said that. It

119:24

was literally like nothing. He paid 60

119:27

grand. It was like like I would be

119:29

terrified if I was getting therapy and

119:32

again it's like not everybody but

119:33

there's a lot of very unh people would

119:35

cry in class. So you'd be like talking

119:38

and like people would just start

119:39

bursting out in tears like I don't feel

119:41

safe. It was insane. I'm like dude

119:43

you're going to be talking to people who

119:45

are like homeless. How are you going to

119:46

help them?

119:47

>> Oh my god.

119:48

>> And it was all female. It was mostly

119:50

female dominated. It was like me and

119:51

three or four other guys. And then like

119:53

people would come in cuz you'd bring

119:54

your case files in and be like here's

119:56

something I'm dealing with. let me get

119:57

some, you know, what do you think about

119:58

this? I remember this guy was dealing

120:00

with this like Vietnam vet who like, you

120:02

know, had like lived in Philly his whole

120:03

life. And he was like, I was just

120:05

shocked the way he talked about women.

120:06

It's like, bro, you're dirty macking

120:09

your client, dude, for these chicks. I'm

120:10

like, come on, man. It was just kind of

120:11

weird. It was like, dude, you know, he's

120:13

a [ __ ] 70-year-old dude. He's lived

120:14

in Philly his whole life.

120:15

>> He probably stabbed Charlie in a tunnel

120:17

somewhere.

120:18

>> Yeah. And he was like, he was just very

120:19

crude about women. It's like, come on,

120:21

man. Of course this guy is

120:22

>> Yeah.

120:22

>> Don't throw him under the [ __ ] bus.

120:23

You're supposed to be helping. That was

120:24

my whole point. And it was like if

120:26

you're doing therapy with people, it's

120:27

like, you know, life is just so hard and

120:30

so complex and if you're going to be

120:31

like this doesn't sit with my party

120:34

politics. I was like, you guys got to

120:35

drop the political [ __ ] man. And just

120:36

like meet these people where they're at.

120:38

>> Well, there's so many guys out there

120:39

that just want brownie points.

120:41

>> That's what I And dude, it was exactly

120:43

what it was. I was like, dude, I know

120:44

what you're doing right now. You're

120:46

dirty macking this guy. So, you can be

120:47

like Personally, I was offended. I'm

120:50

like, dude,

120:51

>> those guys are the worst. Oh, I could I

120:53

couldn't stand it at all.

120:54

>> Those guys are the worst.

120:56

>> Then they tried to kick me out of the

120:57

school cuz when Shane got in trouble for

120:59

SNL, my name popped up in the by line

121:02

cuz I they had no clue. I had it was

121:04

like a double life. I would do I would

121:06

go to social work school like cuz I just

121:09

took out loans. I'm like, we'll just see

121:10

what you know, if the podcast works,

121:11

I'll just pay off the loans. If it

121:12

doesn't, I'll have a degree. And uh so I

121:15

had been it had been pretty contentious

121:17

because my plan was like, dude, just go

121:19

keep it cool. Don't say anything. And

121:21

then dude, you be in these classrooms

121:23

and like I remember the one time this

121:25

lady and they're all like young. They

121:26

right out of college. They'd come out

121:28

and they'd be like, "Well," and I

121:29

believe this is like unprompted. She was

121:31

like, "Well, if" She was like, "I would

121:34

never personally call the cops on a

121:35

black person ever." And I'm just sitting

121:38

in the back of the room and I'm like,

121:39

"What? No one's going to say this is the

121:40

craziest thing." And I'm like, "What if

121:41

he was beating a woman?" And she was

121:43

like, "Uh, I mean like uh" and like it

121:47

was just that nonfucking stop. And I I

121:49

couldn't help it. So I would start

121:50

saying stuff the room would go into

121:52

chaos. So like I I literally couldn't

121:54

bite my tongue and uh and then

121:56

eventually they found once they they

121:58

already kind of had it out for me and

121:59

once that news came out about the

122:00

podcast they were like we got them dead

122:02

to rights. So then they they like the

122:05

student council like they all them they

122:07

didn't like me at all. They all kind of

122:09

did a motion to get me kicked out. And

122:11

uh so the teacher came or like you know

122:13

the dean or whatever who actually was

122:14

nice. I liked her a lot. She like I had

122:16

a meeting with her and she was like,

122:18

"Yeah, these people feel unsafe blah

122:19

blah blah." So I had I had to do and it

122:21

was like unsafe or they just don't you

122:23

know they don't like what they're

122:23

hearing but like they I had a meeting

122:26

with like the board basically which you

122:28

ever like fantasize about getting like

122:30

defending yourself in court.

122:31

>> Yeah.

122:31

>> I got to do that and I got to have like

122:33

a you know we got to like debate about

122:35

whether or not I actually violated the

122:37

code of ethics and it was like kind of

122:39

this gray area. It was like it was

122:40

awesome. I recorded it on my phone.

122:42

>> Wow.

122:42

>> It's like an hour long. It's I never

122:44

listen to it again, but it was like cuz

122:46

I was like just in case they jam me up.

122:47

The lady was like,

122:49

>> you know, like if what would you do if

122:50

we kicked you out? And I was like, dude,

122:52

like

122:53

>> I I'll make the most of that for sure.

122:55

Like I wouldn't want to do it, but I' I

122:56

would just see you guys, man. Like, you

122:57

can't kick me out. I'm already like

122:58

invested. I you know, blah blah blah.

123:00

And then co happened. So like they were

123:02

just hushed it all. I just got to finish

123:04

online class.

123:05

>> Yeah. They tried to give me the boot and

123:07

I remember the day.

123:08

>> Wow.

123:08

>> Did they have a specific thing that they

123:10

were upset about? Was it your

123:11

association with Shane? It was just that

123:13

clip, that Chinatown clip came out and

123:15

they just saw us like I'm sure they like

123:16

looked into other stuff but they were

123:17

like this he's making this place unsafe.

123:19

We're not safe here and I was like shut

123:21

up.

123:22

>> Yeah, podcasters and academia.

123:24

>> It was Dude, it was

123:25

>> academia that does not go together.

123:27

>> Also, dude, like I thought like having a

123:29

masters I was going to be around

123:30

geniuses. It's like they're not that

123:32

smart. You go to a place with masters

123:34

and PhDs, half of them don't even like

123:36

read anything. You talk about a book

123:38

like I never heard of that. And then

123:39

they'd show you like Netflix. Like, bro,

123:41

I'm paying 60 grand for this. You're

123:43

hitting me with a Netflix stock. It's

123:44

like I This is eight bucks a month.

123:46

>> They were showing you Netflix stocks

123:48

class.

123:48

>> Yeah, there was We watched a Netflix

123:50

doc. One of the classes we watched like

123:51

the 13th Amendment and I was like, I saw

123:53

this already. What the [ __ ] man? Like

123:55

it's the that that like I mean, I

123:58

remember thinking like, damn, everyone

123:59

was on Peterson's ass about this. He was

124:01

totally right. liberal liberal arts

124:03

colleges were like it was it I couldn't

124:05

have thought of a bigger waste of money

124:07

in terms of like bang for buck and like

124:09

what did I actually learn?

124:10

>> Well, I remember when we were talking

124:12

about all the madness that was going on

124:14

in schools and people like why do you

124:16

care about this? This is happening in

124:17

college. I'm like they're going to

124:19

eventually graduate and they're going to

124:21

have this ideology and they're going to

124:23

get into corporations. They're going to

124:24

get into business. They're this they're

124:26

going to carry this with them and try to

124:28

enforce these crazy rules. or you know

124:30

somebody like your kids having problems

124:32

and you go to a therapist and they're

124:34

this like psycho like there was we would

124:36

talk about modalities of therapy one of

124:38

them someone float it and the teacher

124:39

was like oh yeah for sure was called

124:41

like it was I don't know what it was

124:42

called it's like activism therapy where

124:43

you get people politically active in

124:45

order to like motivate them and enrich

124:47

their lives and I was like you can't do

124:49

that you can't take like a confused

124:51

existentially a drift person and be like

124:53

this is what you need to do go

124:55

>> politically

124:56

>> I swear to God dude it was there was

124:58

there was like really creep creepy stuff

125:00

going on there. And it was all just like

125:02

complete group think. You couldn't like

125:04

if you said anything outside of like

125:05

what was acceptable that you would just

125:07

get punished. The teachers would kind of

125:08

even like some of them would try to like

125:10

scold you or be like, "Yeah, okay,

125:12

dude." And it's like it's it's a lot. It

125:15

would I could see it why it would just

125:16

break people because I would like my

125:18

heart would be beating. I don't really

125:19

like conflict like that. Yeah.

125:20

>> But it was also like dude some of the

125:22

stuff you're like I can't not say

125:23

anything. This is insane. Dude,

125:24

>> do you ever talk about this on stage?

125:26

>> No, I've never really talked about being

125:28

in social work. Oh my god. It's like

125:30

there's gold in them Dar Hills.

125:33

>> True.

125:33

>> It was fun. That time of the podcast, I

125:35

would leave school. I would then I come

125:36

back to the podcast like, "Bro, you

125:37

won't believe what the [ __ ] these people

125:38

are saying." You say it on the podcast.

125:41

Oh, that's awesome.

125:42

>> It just seems like it's a great gold

125:44

mine for standup.

125:45

>> Yeah. Like cuz you have a very unique

125:48

experience.

125:49

>> True.

125:49

>> Like to as a window into how crazy

125:52

people are in school.

125:53

>> Mhm. Yeah. No, it was it was terrifying,

125:56

man. And then the weirdest part is like

125:57

after years went by, they were like, "Do

126:00

you want to get your PhD here?"

126:02

>> I was like, "No, after co after it all,

126:06

>> they just wanted your money."

126:07

>> Exactly. That's I saw that and I was

126:08

like, "Man, get the hell out of here."

126:10

>> Would be nice to be call yourself Dr.

126:11

Matt, though,

126:12

>> bro. Don't think I didn't think about

126:13

it.

126:13

>> Come on, dog. Come on, dog.

126:16

>> I know. I've been

126:17

>> shows you how many kooky doctors there

126:18

are out there.

126:19

>> That really opened my eyes. I thought

126:20

doctors were like the smartest people in

126:22

the world and I went to like higher

126:23

education. I'm like, this is [ __ ]

126:25

insane. Yeah,

126:26

>> anyone can you could be a doctor, dude.

126:28

Anyone could I mean obviously like

126:29

anyone could be a [ __ ] doctor.

126:30

>> Well, especially about some subjects,

126:32

right?

126:32

>> Exactly. That's a thing. Not like

126:34

>> Not hard sciences.

126:35

>> Not hard science. If you want you want

126:37

to be a doctor, you could go for like

126:38

anthropology, whatever.

126:40

>> Yeah.

126:40

>> No problem, dude.

126:42

>> Yeah.

126:42

>> And they can't say [ __ ] Like you can

126:44

make up you can like make your thesis on

126:46

anything and be like, "Excuse me."

126:48

Well, did you ever see what uh Peter

126:49

Begoian and uh James Lindsay and Ellen

126:54

Pluck Pluck Rose did?

126:55

>> Do you know what they did? No.

126:57

>> They they made these fake academic

126:59

papers.

127:00

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.

127:00

>> Yeah. I saw that.

127:01

>> Like heteronormative

127:04

something in dog parks. They were

127:05

talking about like gay experiences with

127:08

dogs have. And it was like a

127:09

peer-reviewed paper. Uh fat bodybuilding

127:11

was one of them. Yeah. And and these

127:14

they were like celebrated. these papers

127:16

were celebrated,

127:17

>> dude. It would go 100% with like the

127:19

theory, like the critical race theory

127:21

and all that stuff you cover. When you

127:22

get into it, you're like it was and I I

127:24

remember like saying this, it was very

127:27

like uh it reminded me cuz I I'd been

127:29

outside of Walmart, someone handed me

127:30

like a pamphlet and it was like white

127:31

supremacy literature. When you read that

127:33

stuff, you read the first two sentences,

127:35

you go, "Okay, that sounds legit." And

127:37

then it just there's this like huge

127:38

quantum leap in reasoning. You're like,

127:40

"Whoa, how the [ __ ] did we get here?" A

127:41

lot of that's very similar where they'll

127:43

make a thing like you just no one can

127:44

disagree with, right? And then it jumps

127:46

real quick and you're like just complete

127:48

group think.

127:48

>> Yeah.

127:49

>> Yeah.

127:49

>> It that was scary to be like damn dude,

127:51

these people are going to be like these

127:53

people are therapists working with kids,

127:54

older people, you know, this and that,

127:56

you know, and it was just like I was

127:58

like, how this how is this the people

128:00

supposedly like, you know, guiding

128:02

people through life or like taking

128:03

people who are lost or suffering and

128:05

being, you know, I don't know. It was it

128:06

was kind of rough

128:07

>> cuz the animous against a person who

128:09

like thought differently, it was

128:11

palpable and like very severe to where

128:15

it was like dude. And the funniest part

128:16

was like I was again I was in that high

128:19

school in the inner city. It was the the

128:20

school was like 97% black, the rest

128:22

Latino, and they were like how would

128:24

your students feel about your podcast

128:26

material? I'm like they don't give a

128:27

[ __ ] They would laugh. Like they have

128:30

bigger fish to fry than being like what

128:32

did you say on a podcast? It's like

128:34

they're like high schoolers in Philly

128:35

fighting for their lives.

128:36

>> How do your students feel?

128:38

>> That was the big disconnect. I'm like

128:39

you guys have like I don't know man like

128:41

they they would even teach you this

128:43

would crack me up. I was like thinking

128:44

about this the other day where they they

128:47

would tell you if you had a client and

128:48

you know say your client was black and

128:50

you know I'm a white guy. I should lead

128:52

by going like how do you feel about the

128:55

fact that I'm white and you're black? I

128:58

was like dude you guys realize you're in

129:00

a classroom studying how to talk to a

129:02

black person. And I'm like, that's

129:03

[ __ ] weird.

129:05

>> I was like, just talk to like you can

129:06

just talk to them, man. And if that

129:07

comes up, you can tackle it.

129:09

>> I'm like, you're uncomfortable. And then

129:11

you're going like, so black person, how

129:13

do you feel that I'm white? It's like,

129:14

dude, that is And they would push back

129:16

against me. I'm like, no, no, you guys

129:17

can't do that. That's crazy.

129:19

>> Well, you were actually applying it in

129:21

the real world. They were just

129:22

exhibiting. They were just hanging out

129:24

in these circle jerks.

129:25

>> Exactly. And a lot of them would be

129:27

like, you know, I'm social justice,

129:28

blah, blah, blah. And like, all right,

129:29

where's your field placement? That was

129:30

like your, you know, um, that was like

129:31

your internship. and they're like, "Oh,

129:33

I'm out in like the the main line's like

129:35

a really nice area in Philly." It's

129:36

like, "I'm doing like a high school on

129:37

the main line." It's like, "Okay,

129:39

dudes." Like, you know, it's like, "Take

129:40

that act somewhere else." And it's like

129:42

like those kids don't want to hear any

129:43

of this [ __ ] like at all. And I would

129:45

like you to talk to them. Like, if race

129:47

comes up, I would talk to them. But like

129:48

you that would have been so crazy to

129:50

take a black eighth grader and being

129:52

like, "I'm white. How do you feel about

129:54

that?" That that would be so creepy and

129:56

weird. Isn't it crazy that they think

129:58

you're obligated to bring that up? you

130:01

have an obligation to discuss it.

130:03

>> Also, it's like they [ __ ] know. They

130:05

can see me. I'm clearly white. They know

130:08

I'm white. And it's like Exactly. It's

130:10

like And if that you talk talk talk and

130:12

then you can like bring it up cuz it's a

130:14

thing, but it's like leading with that.

130:16

I always be like

130:16

>> the least of their problems.

130:18

>> Exactly.

130:19

>> They're just probably happy someone

130:20

takes an interest in them and is kind to

130:22

them,

130:22

>> dude. And that was a big thing too of

130:24

like, you know, because they you get

130:25

them out of class and a lot of them

130:26

they'd be like, I'm [ __ ] talking to

130:28

this guy. Like whatever. And I would

130:29

just chill and be like, "You can just do

130:30

your homework." And then you just start

130:31

helping them with their homework. Like,

130:32

"What are you doing?" And, you know, and

130:33

then you eventually build rapport. But

130:35

it was just like, you know, I'm like,

130:36

"These are the teachers telling you

130:38

this." And you're like, "Fuck, dude. You

130:39

guys are guiding people into this." It

130:42

was, dude, I I I walked away from that

130:44

being like, god damn. Well, there's a

130:46

lot of people that think that like a lot

130:48

of psychology and a lot of therapy is

130:51

just complete horseshit.

130:53

>> Yeah. And the argument about therapy

130:54

being complete horseshit in terms of

130:56

like uh the academic study of it and

130:58

applying it to people is that very few

131:01

people, you know, get better. I think it

131:04

does help a lot of people though. And I

131:06

think it really helps a lot of people if

131:08

they're in a really bad place. I think

131:09

some people just want to talk to

131:11

somebody

131:12

>> and that can help too.

131:14

>> Yeah. But it's like what is the what can

131:16

you actually do for them in in terms of

131:19

like with the the tools and the

131:22

techniques of therapy

131:24

versus just being a human and talking to

131:28

a human and and and and seeing their

131:30

side of things and trying to tell them

131:33

your perspective and trying to give them

131:35

a rational point of view and yeah

131:37

>> and giving them some maybe some things

131:39

to work on. But it's like it's not a

131:42

science and not at all.

131:43

>> And it varies so much between

131:45

individuals.

131:46

>> Well, yeah, there's the individuals.

131:48

Then there's 40 million modalities of

131:50

therapy. So it's like you can be doing

131:51

like CBT, which is like that's

131:53

supposedly the most scientific where

131:55

it's like there's a system. It's a kind

131:56

of rigorous. You can have like young and

131:58

stuff where you're like what your let's

131:59

draw like a mandela based on your

132:01

dreams. Or you can just be like, "Let me

132:03

just be nice to this person who's never

132:05

had anyone be nice to them and then let

132:07

them kind of open up and like,

132:09

>> yeah, it I think they did a study one

132:10

time where they took um they let people

132:13

who weren't trained therapists be

132:15

therapists and they didn't find a giant

132:17

difference as terms of like who was

132:18

getting what result. But then there's

132:20

it's it is a skill though. That's the

132:21

other thing. Like it's a skill. It's a

132:22

hard job."

132:23

>> Yeah.

132:24

>> But it I think you're totally right

132:25

where it's like it all depends on the

132:27

person. Have they are they in touch with

132:29

what's [ __ ] the therapist? So they

132:30

know about like what's [ __ ] up with

132:31

them and like

132:32

>> cuz you can like I don't know man. It's

132:34

it's such a crapshoot and it's like

132:36

>> I think it can be beneficial. I think

132:38

like being stuck in it your whole life.

132:40

I don't know about that cuz it just

132:41

becomes a thing where you start

132:43

performing and you're like [ __ ] let me

132:45

>> Well, a lot of people feel like you have

132:46

to be in therapy and everybody should be

132:48

in therapy. Like

132:50

>> yeah I I don't know. Like I remember I

132:52

didn't do it ever and then when I went

132:53

to school for therapy they're like you

132:54

got to go you got to go to therapy so

132:56

that like you can know what it's like

132:58

and blah blah blah.

132:59

>> I like fair enough. And I genuinely

133:01

walked in there being like I'm about to

133:02

blow this lady's mind. She's going to be

133:04

like I've never met a guy so put

133:05

together. And then like I went in there

133:07

and she kind of picked me apart and I

133:08

was like [ __ ] I'm kind of [ __ ] up. I

133:09

didn't know that.

133:11

>> That's funny.

133:11

>> But it was I for real was like I'm going

133:13

to this lady's about to be like bro let

133:15

me just tell you about my I like for

133:17

real had so much

133:18

>> I thought you were going to be the

133:19

therapist first. I thought I was a

133:21

chosen one.

133:25

>> It was good though because like they the

133:27

one thing they can do is like if you're

133:28

in a family system

133:30

>> and you have no other like you know

133:32

available worldviews, you're you're

133:34

locked in that. So a therapist can be

133:36

somebody outside of a system you would

133:38

never wise ever have access to who can

133:40

let you run like things through your

133:42

head in a way you would never think of.

133:44

That I think is good. But then it's

133:46

like, you know, at a certain point it's

133:48

like I feel like you should get in, get

133:49

out. Kind of like, all right, here's

133:50

some things that like there's like like

133:52

acceptance commitment therapy. That's

133:54

good. It's like they teach you how to be

133:55

like mindful, how to like monitor your

133:57

thoughts without having them like

133:58

completely attack. There's like there

134:00

are like skills you can learn.

134:01

>> Yeah.

134:02

>> But it's like, dude, [ __ ] And the

134:04

money of it is crazy. Like that's the

134:06

other thing. Like it's so expensive,

134:08

>> right? And does insurance pay for it for

134:10

most people? How does it

134:11

>> depends like it it'll cover it for some?

134:14

You have to be you have to get a

134:15

therapist in that network and then they

134:17

have to diagnose you. If insurance wants

134:19

if you want your insurance to cover you

134:21

that therapist has to diagnose you with

134:22

a mental disord or some sort of mental

134:24

thing.

134:25

>> Oh, and do they have to prescribe

134:26

something for you?

134:26

>> They don't I don't think they have to

134:27

prescribe. No, but it's like

134:29

interesting.

134:29

>> Do they have to just give you a like,

134:31

you know, your bipolar adjustment

134:33

disorder is the one where it's like

134:34

>> but with psychiatrists like I wonder how

134:36

many of them are just like incentivized

134:39

to put you on something.

134:41

>> Probably a ton. They're just like

134:42

doctors,

134:42

>> right? So, and then some of them just

134:44

swear by it. They're like, "Just take

134:45

this, take that, take this."

134:46

>> Yeah. I have a friend who went to a

134:48

psychiatrist and he said that like

134:49

immediately, like first meeting, this

134:52

guy's trying to put him on

134:53

anti-depressants.

134:54

>> Yeah.

134:54

>> And he's like, "Well, I don't think I

134:57

need that. Like, I'm not that [ __ ] up.

135:00

>> I'm just not happy."

135:02

>> Yeah.

135:02

>> I'm sad.

135:03

>> It's also the first meeting is crazy

135:04

because it's like, "Let's see what your

135:06

life's about." Like,

135:06

>> no. He's like, "Let's get you on this

135:08

and it'll make you feel better

135:09

>> and then we'll work from there." Like,

135:11

>> well, some of those guys are like

135:12

ruthless materialists where you're like,

135:14

"Yeah, your brain's just [ __ ] up,

135:15

dude. Who cares?" Cuz that like uh Did

135:17

you ever see the Sapowski guy?

135:18

>> Yeah, Robert. I think he's great. I

135:20

loved his lectures, but his last book,

135:22

>> and again, this was like from him

135:23

promoting it. I didn't read it, but his

135:25

argument was like, "Yeah, we just all

135:26

have different brains, and if you're

135:27

like,

135:28

>> you know, if you're like a [ __ ] home

135:30

invader or a burglar, it's just your

135:32

genes suck." And like, we shouldn't ever

135:33

punish anybody. We should just kind of

135:35

like keep people aside and just

135:37

rehabilitate. basically saying like you

135:38

have no choice over what you do at all.

135:40

Free will is complete illusion.

135:42

>> Yeah. The the determinism argument.

135:44

>> Yeah. Yeah.

135:45

>> Yeah. I don't know about that argument.

135:46

I mean obviously free will is real but

135:49

obviously you are affected by your

135:51

genes, your life circumstances, your

135:53

past behavior, your all the experiences

135:56

that you've had. There's a lot of

135:58

factors to say that will doesn't mean

136:00

anything. Well then why is inspiration

136:02

so important?

136:03

>> Yeah.

136:03

>> Why do people love inspiration? Why do

136:05

people love like a good pep talk? Why do

136:07

people love like a good motivational

136:08

video that gets you out of the house?

136:10

Like obviously there's will involved.

136:11

>> Yeah.

136:12

>> And will is Will is the thing that turns

136:15

you into a jelly roll at 500 lb to jelly

136:19

roll at 200 lb. Like that's what will.

136:22

>> Yeah.

136:23

>> Like that is that's a real thing, man.

136:25

That's not a it's not a fake thing. This

136:27

idea of free will. It's no determinism

136:30

that led Jelly Roll to decide to start

136:32

walking. That was hardcore will.

136:35

>> Yeah. No, I agree. And I I don't that

136:37

argument always bo I like Sepalski. I

136:39

liked a lot of his stuff. That argument

136:40

just bothers me because it's like okay

136:42

you're taking the idea of will and just

136:44

switching it with like this nebulous

136:46

like what there's like a isotope in your

136:48

brain that is on it gets switched on and

136:50

then you're able it's just to me it's

136:51

such a like a

136:53

>> just a weird point to kind of like try

136:55

to push across like there's no free

136:56

will. It's just your gene activates and

136:58

then you do the thing and it's like

136:59

>> I guess man but then you can like change

137:01

your genes apparently by like acting a

137:03

certain way. So, it's like, you know, I

137:06

that's I just never like that stuff,

137:08

man.

137:08

>> It's a weird argument, but there's

137:10

validity to both perspectives.

137:12

>> There's validity to the perspective that

137:14

free will is a real thing, but also

137:17

determinism is a is a giant factor in

137:20

how many people live their lives the way

137:22

they live them.

137:22

>> Yeah. There's like if especially if

137:24

you're in a [ __ ] circumstance, you're in

137:26

a terrible gangridden community, you get

137:30

beaten in your house, your mom's on

137:32

crack, there's chaos everywhere. The

137:34

idea that you're going to come out of

137:35

this writing vegan poetry is insane.

137:37

>> That's true.

137:38

>> It's insane.

137:38

>> No, that that's that's true.

137:40

>> That's insane. You're you're a product

137:41

of your environment, at least to a

137:43

certain extent. And usually someone

137:45

finds something that they love that

137:47

gives them an outlet and then they get

137:49

out of there. or the problem with the

137:51

determinism stuff for me is like cuz I I

137:52

I do get that. It's like, you know,

137:54

yeah, if you have a horrible upbringing

137:56

and you do a hor, you know, you kill

137:57

people. It is like, yeah, I get it. Like

137:59

if I had that had been me, maybe I can

138:01

do that. And like he's like, maybe we

138:02

should treat everyone a lot more kindly

138:04

and not punish people. And it's like I'm

138:06

on board with that. It all for me it all

138:08

stops at pedophiles and it's like so

138:09

what? We're supposed to just like

138:11

>> right

138:11

>> poo poo a pedophile? It's like part of

138:13

me is like we should probably [ __ ]

138:14

fry those guys where it's like

138:16

>> well that's one of the craziest things

138:17

about this whole what's going on the

138:19

woke [ __ ] in academia is they're

138:21

starting to call them minor attracted

138:22

persons. So there's like legitimate

138:24

academics who are describing pedophiles

138:27

as minor attracted persons and that it

138:30

doesn't mean that they're evil. It's

138:32

like what?

138:34

>> Yeah.

138:35

>> I know. And that's the problem. It's

138:37

like okay

138:37

>> especially if you have kids like I don't

138:39

know anybody who has kids who has that

138:40

perspective.

138:41

>> No. If you did, you have to be like a

138:43

sick [ __ ] Like to think that it's oh,

138:45

it's just a minor attractive person that

138:47

[ __ ] my kid. Like what?

138:48

>> Yeah. Well, that and that's the whole

138:50

thing, too. It's like we're all just

138:51

bags, you know, of like jeans and we're

138:52

this material goo that just does

138:54

something. Sometimes it's like, all

138:56

right, well, let me [ __ ] squash this

138:57

pedophile then. Let me We're all just

138:59

bags of goo. Let me, you know, crush

139:00

this guy. But it's like,

139:01

>> right, it's okay to board a child, but

139:03

it's not okay to kill a pedophile.

139:05

Explain. Help me.

139:06

>> Yeah, that's where it gets for me. all

139:07

that like determinism like we should

139:09

just be kind and have a more rational

139:10

approach to criminal justice. It's like

139:13

for sure and then it's like a [ __ ]

139:14

pedophiles. It's like yeah you can't

139:17

>> pedophiles, serial killers.

139:19

>> Yeah,

139:20

>> there's a lot of rapist. There's a lot

139:22

of different people you could throw into

139:23

that. One of the interesting things

139:24

about Sepalski is uh he did some crazy

139:28

work on toxopplasmosis. That's how I

139:30

really got into him.

139:31

>> Really?

139:31

>> Yeah. He was the guy that we first

139:34

started reading about that was saying

139:36

that a disproportionate amount of

139:37

motorcycle victims when he was doing his

139:39

residency. Um the uh the guy who he was

139:43

working with one of the surgeons would

139:45

test the motorcycle victims for

139:47

toxopplasmosis

139:48

>> and he said a giant percentage of them

139:50

have this cat parasite.

139:53

>> Oh yeah, I've heard about this.

139:54

>> Cat parasite alters behavior. It makes

139:57

you more reckless. It makes you more po

139:59

prone to erratic uh mood swings.

140:02

And it makes you more aggressive. It's

140:04

interesting. Yeah. Disproportionate

140:05

amount of uh successful soccer teams

140:08

have high levels of toxopplasmosis.

140:11

Countries with higher toxoplas. There

140:13

could also be highers countries of

140:15

higher toxopplasmosis don't have any

140:17

money. It's easier to get a soccer ball.

140:19

People get good at soccer. It's the way

140:21

out of the game. I mean a way out of bad

140:23

neighborhoods.

140:24

>> But this the motorcycle victim thing is

140:27

nuts because we know it affects human

140:29

behavior. And we also know that it

140:31

affects animal behavior. It makes cats,

140:35

>> it grows inside cat's guts. It's the

140:37

only way that it reproduces. So what it

140:39

does is it rewires a sexual reward

140:41

system of rodents.

140:43

>> And like mice and rats get turned on by

140:46

the smell of cat piss. So they go to

140:48

seek out catpiss with like a boner, like

140:51

literally. And they lose all their fear

140:53

of cats. So that the cats devour them.

140:55

And so when the cats devour them, then

140:57

that parasite is now inside the cat's

140:59

gut, which is where it reproduces.

141:01

>> So that's why they tell pregnant women,

141:03

you should never touch cat litter.

141:05

>> Really?

141:06

>> Yeah. It's toxopplasmosis.

141:08

>> And they think it does the same thing in

141:09

humans where it just makes you like kind

141:10

of amps up your drives.

141:12

>> Yeah.

141:12

>> Damn. That's You know what else is nuts,

141:14

too? Cuz you were saying that's more in

141:15

like certain countries that are like

141:16

developing.

141:17

>> Well, it's in in rural areas in places

141:21

where people have like outdoor cats.

141:23

Yeah.

141:23

>> Um, but there was one point where in

141:26

France it was like 50% of the people had

141:28

to talk toxo.

141:28

>> Jesus Christ.

141:29

>> Yeah. Cuz they have those wild cats

141:30

everywhere. Yeah.

141:31

>> And you got to think cats are they're on

141:33

your countertop. They're their their

141:35

[ __ ] [ __ ] is on their paws.

141:36

>> Dude, I don't That's the one thing like

141:38

I have dogs. I I Cats are fine. If I see

141:40

a cat, I'll pet it. But like when I see

141:41

people's cats on their countertop and I

141:43

don't get squeamish easily, I'm just

141:44

kind of like, ew, dude. It's kind of

141:46

gross.

141:47

>> Well, they [ __ ] in a box. They paw

141:49

around in that box of [ __ ] and piss and

141:51

then they hop on your couch.

141:53

>> There's [ __ ] and piss on their paws.

141:55

>> Yeah,

141:55

>> dogs go outside. They take a [ __ ] They

141:57

come inside. They're good. As long as

141:58

your dog doesn't rub his [ __ ] on your

142:00

dinner plates,

142:01

>> you're probably okay. But I've had cats

142:03

that like walk on your plates. They

142:05

don't give a [ __ ] They'll have they'll

142:06

take a seat on your plate.

142:08

>> Yeah. Like

142:08

>> you're like, "I have to get a new plate

142:09

now, you [ __ ] What are you doing? Get

142:11

off of that." And they they're funny.

142:13

But I've se every time I see them like

142:14

get out of the litter box and walk

142:15

across people's countertops, I'm like,

142:16

"Dude,

142:17

>> it is funny. I've always had them

142:18

though. I have Well, I don't have them

142:19

now cuz my kids are allergic. But when I

142:21

when I was younger, I had them and they

142:23

are fun. I like them. They're fun pets.

142:26

They're c They're cute. They come over

142:27

you and purr.

142:28

>> Yeah.

142:28

>> But it is weird that you have a box of

142:30

[ __ ] in your house.

142:32

>> And there's a lot of people like they're

142:33

lazy and you go over their house, they

142:35

have a cat, they're not cleaning that

142:36

litter box enough, and as soon as you

142:37

walk in, the

142:39

>> [ __ ] waft of piss and [ __ ] hits you

142:42

and they're like, "Bro, you're just

142:43

smelling this all day?"

142:44

>> So bad. I need I would need an outdoor.

142:45

I used to let stray cats come in my

142:47

house when I live I used after college I

142:48

lived in a house by myself in Philly. It

142:50

was like a small house and uh all the

142:52

like a lot of the houses on the street

142:53

have been knocked down. So there's only

142:55

like there were row homes but I had a

142:56

standalone row home. There's a lady

142:57

across the street had a standalone row

142:59

home. They just knocked all the houses

143:00

next to us down and like two other

143:02

people and I would let the stray cat

143:03

into my house but I just you know you

143:05

can come stay in here but I'd be like

143:07

you can't like this thing can't get in

143:08

my bed. I'm like by like three days that

143:10

thing was like curled up next to my

143:12

face. I got a [ __ ] up eye infection.

143:14

>> Yeah. I think it was called epidemic.

143:16

No, it was called epidemic curado

143:17

conjunctivitis.

143:18

>> It's called [ __ ] in your eye.

143:19

>> It literally was it. But the do the eye

143:21

doctor was like the eye doctor goes I

143:22

had only see this is like in third world

143:24

countries.

143:25

>> And dude for 6 months afterwards after

143:27

it got cleared up they had to shut the

143:29

thing down and clean the whole eye

143:30

practice.

143:32

>> Afterwards my eye at 10:00 would start

143:34

to droop.

143:35

>> Whoa.

143:35

>> Cuz the white blood cells would rush to

143:37

my eye. So I would be out dude for 6

143:39

months after this thing had finally

143:40

cleared up because it was viral. They're

143:42

like there's nothing you can do for it.

143:44

I would go out, my eye would just start

143:46

drooping. I'd be like, "I'm I gotta go

143:47

home. I gotta go home." Your alarm.

143:49

>> I would feel like I had [ __ ] said,

143:51

"Yes." I feel like I had [ __ ] sand in

143:52

my eye. Highly contagious, severe eye

143:55

infection caused by adino virus.

143:57

Typically types A 81 1937 cause rapid

144:01

onset of red, painful, watery eyes,

144:03

often with light sensitivity, blurred

144:04

vision, and swollen eyelids. Whoa,

144:07

>> dude. I would wake up in the morning, my

144:09

eyelid was it was stuck together, and I

144:10

have to pull it open. And then I saw the

144:13

movie Ray. Remember the beginning of

144:14

Raid when his eyes get all globbed up? I

144:16

was like, "Dude, am I going blind? This

144:17

would suck."

144:18

>> That would suck if you got blind from a

144:19

cat's [ __ ]

144:20

>> [ __ ] suck, dude.

144:21

>> Bro.

144:22

>> Yeah. But

144:23

>> a friend of mine has shingles on his

144:25

face. It's crazy. His whole face is all

144:27

swollen up and he's worried he might go

144:29

blind.

144:30

>> He has it now?

144:30

>> Yeah, he just got it. He's an older guy

144:32

and he just got it.

144:33

>> What is shingles like when you don't get

144:35

chickenpox and it like comes and gets

144:37

you afterwards?

144:38

>> I don't think so. I think it's a a form

144:41

of the herpes virus

144:42

>> that uh affects older people in

144:45

particular. Older people are terrified

144:46

of it. They get shingles vaccinations

144:49

and [ __ ]

144:51

>> Um is that what it is?

144:52

>> I thought chickenpox was herpes too.

144:55

>> Oh, really?

144:55

>> I always heard that if you don't get

144:56

chickenpox as a kid, you might get

144:58

shingles as an adult. My uncle got

144:59

shingles and he said it sucked.

145:02

>> Uh known as herpes zoster, a viral

145:04

infection that causes a painful rash. It

145:06

stems from the reactivation of the

145:08

virella zooster virus, the same one

145:11

responsible for chickenpox, which lies

145:14

dormant in nerve tissues after the

145:16

initial infection. So after you get the

145:18

infection, then you can get shingles.

145:20

>> Oh no.

145:20

>> After chickenpox resolves, the virus

145:23

remains inactive in the body's nerve

145:24

cells. Factors like aging, weakened

145:27

immunity, or stress can trigger

145:28

reactivation, leading to shingles, most

145:32

commonly in adults over 50. Yeah. Yeah.

145:34

My friend is like in his 60s. That

145:35

sucks, dude.

145:36

>> Yeah, that's rough.

145:39

>> A lot of older people are scared of

145:41

shingles.

145:41

>> Yeah, I remember my uncle got it and he

145:43

like he was he was

145:44

>> Is the shingles vaccine effective? Does

145:46

it prevent shingles? Is that one of the

145:48

legit ones?

145:50

>> It says vaccines like shingris shingris

145:54

reduce risk significantly.

145:57

Antiviral drugs shorten outbreaks

146:00

if started early. Oh, you got to get on

146:03

it right when you see the first bump.

146:06

>> Suck, dude. Somebody knows kids got MRSA

146:08

from swimming in one of those.

146:10

>> Dude, it was scary.

146:11

>> We got the pictures. It was just like

146:13

bubble. It looked crazy.

146:14

>> MRSA is terrifying.

146:16

>> Yeah,

146:16

>> that's all from people taking

146:18

antibiotics.

146:19

>> Or it was staff. Staff and MRSA. Yeah,

146:21

it was staff.

146:21

>> Staff is the more dangerous one. Oh,

146:23

excuse me. MRSA is the more dangerous

146:24

one because MRSA is medically medical

146:28

resistant stuff medicine resistant.

146:30

>> So, this was just staff. So it was like

146:31

a giant bubble on their hand. It looked

146:33

It looked crazy.

146:34

>> I've had staff. I've stabbed it a couple

146:36

times.

146:37

>> Oh yeah.

146:37

>> I got it from jiu-jitsu. A lot of people

146:39

get it.

146:40

>> Yeah. It's real common. Like um a lot of

146:43

people get it and they don't even

146:44

realize they have it until it's too like

146:46

Ari had it. And he didn't even know he

146:47

had it. We were playing pool once and he

146:49

was limping. He was walking around. I

146:51

go, "Why are you limping?" And he goes,

146:52

"I got a spider bite." And he was doing

146:54

jiu-jitsu. I bought him a year of

146:55

jiu-jitsu for Christmas.

146:57

>> Yeah.

146:57

>> I forced him to celebrate Christmas.

147:01

I didn't say it's Hanukkah. I got him a

147:03

Christmas present. But uh um I go, "Let

147:06

me see." And he rolls his pants up and I

147:08

see this bubble on his knee with like a

147:11

pus center of it and I go, "We're going

147:13

to the hospital right now." He goes,

147:15

"Are you serious?" And I unscrew my

147:16

queue. I go, "You have to go to the

147:18

hospital right now?" I go, "Right now?"

147:20

I go, "That's staff infection."

147:21

>> And he was like, "Why don't they [ __ ]

147:23

tell us about why aren't there signs at

147:24

the gym warning you about?" I'm like,

147:26

"That's a good point. like you kind of

147:27

have to hear about it from somebody.

147:30

>> Yeah,

147:30

>> I found out about it from my friend

147:32

Tate. Um, shout out to Tate Fletcher, my

147:34

homie. We were uh at the airport once

147:37

and I had shorts on and you know I had

147:39

just like my foot sitting up like this.

147:41

He goes, "What's on your calf?" I had

147:43

like little pimples on my calf. I'm

147:44

like, "I don't know, nothing." And he

147:46

goes, "Dude, I think that's staff."

147:48

>> I'm like, "What?" I go, "These are like

147:50

little zits.

147:51

>> You think that's staff?" And he goes,

147:52

"Yeah, you should go get that checked

147:53

out." And I went to the doctor and he

147:54

goes, "Yeah, that looks like staff." He

147:56

goes, "I'm going to put you on

147:56

antibiotics right away and we're just

147:58

going to swab it and send it in, but I

148:00

don't want to wait." And I got on it

148:01

right away and so I killed it quick. But

148:04

I remember the antibiotics,

148:07

dude, you feel so weird when you're on

148:10

them. He's like so tired.

148:12

>> I hate taking them, man.

148:14

>> Some guys fight on them. I know guys

148:16

that have got staff infections in the

148:17

UFC, fought off the staff infection with

148:20

antibiotics and then fought on the

148:22

antibiotics, which is crazy.

148:25

>> Yeah, that's

148:26

>> I don't know how you'd have any

148:27

endurance.

148:28

>> No, I don't I always feel weird. I I

148:30

also like that they mess my stomach up

148:32

so bad.

148:32

>> Oh, yeah.

148:33

>> I don't My stomach's just fried every

148:34

time.

148:35

>> Well, my friend Gordon Ryan, that's his

148:36

belt up there. Greatest jiu-jitsu

148:38

grappler of all time. He has to retire

148:41

because he got staffed so many times

148:42

that he was taking antibiotics so often

148:44

that it [ __ ] nuked his gut bacteria.

148:48

>> And like he can't hold food down. He

148:50

throws up all the time.

148:51

>> Sucks.

148:52

>> Yeah, it's crazy. He's been dealing with

148:53

it for years and he just announced on

148:56

Instagram really recently that he has to

148:58

retire.

148:59

>> Dude, I I got

149:00

>> He can't train.

149:01

>> That s [ __ ]

149:02

>> And he's the greatest of all time

149:03

>> and he just he's done

149:04

>> and he's 30.

149:06

>> Yeah,

149:06

>> that sucks. the like unanimously

149:09

regarded as the greatest grappler of all

149:11

time.

149:11

>> And he's that's it.

149:12

>> Yeah. He's he's gone like 10 years

149:14

undefeated, beating the best fighters in

149:16

the world.

149:18

>> Like time off. Can he just take like

149:20

five years?

149:20

>> He's trying. He's done that. He hasn't

149:22

competed in a couple of years. He can't

149:24

do it. He can't train.

149:25

>> That sucks.

149:26

>> It's like it keeps coming back. Dude, I

149:28

I had eczema one time and uh it like it

149:31

came up on my it was like on my legs and

149:34

it was on my dick and I thought it was

149:37

ringorm because it was like a perfect

149:38

circle. So I go to the you know I go to

149:40

the whatever urgent care and I'm like

149:42

yeah I got [ __ ] ringorm and they're

149:44

like that's weird. Usually doesn't go on

149:45

there but they're like just put [ __ ]

149:47

uh you know lot or I think when I

149:50

>> Yeah. like Lotin that [ __ ]

149:52

>> So I put Lotin on my dick and it just

149:55

dried like the whole thing. It was like

149:57

uh it was disgusting.

149:59

>> So then I had to go back to another

150:01

urgent care and it was like the second

150:03

or third time. I just showed like a

150:04

[ __ ] shriveled flaccid like chapped

150:07

red penis. I showed this one nurse who

150:10

goes like I don't know. Calls in another

150:12

nurse and I'm like [ __ ] All right. She

150:15

comes in. I don't know what that is. I

150:16

call in someone else. I'm like oh a

150:17

third nurse. Giant black guy comes in.

150:19

I'm like no

150:21

no no no.

150:25

You know, he's gonna laugh as soon as he

150:27

leaves,

150:27

>> bro. He was probably I can't believe.

150:29

Yeah, I I It was It was bad. And then

150:32

finally, I went to I finally went to

150:34

dermatologist and I Dude, you can look

150:36

it up. The Center City Dermatology run

150:38

by just like a babe. Like, it's on the

150:41

website. Everyone knows this. Who has

150:42

ever gone there? My friend, I was

150:44

talking about it one time. My friend was

150:45

like, "Bro, I know exactly what you're

150:46

talking about." She comes in, checks it

150:48

out, and she's like, "Dude, you had, you

150:50

know, that wasn't even ringing." And

150:51

then she gave me this cream and it like

150:52

cleared it right up. So, I had to show

150:54

like my [ __ ] like chap like le it was

150:57

like a leprosy bro.

151:00

>> That's whoa.

151:01

>> Yeah, dude.

151:01

>> That's just

151:02

>> She saw me at my worst, dude.

151:04

>> Hilarious.

151:05

>> So, I had to show it to like four

151:06

people. It was like a leprosy penis. And

151:08

then eventually she was like, "Oh, no,

151:10

dude. Take like it was like a corttooid.

151:12

Cleared it right up."

151:13

>> I know people that have had eczema that

151:15

went on a carnivore diet and it went

151:17

away.

151:17

>> I can't have I can't have gluten. That's

151:19

the thing. I was I'm I've been allergic

151:21

to gluten for a while and if I kind of

151:22

backslide on that it's like I'll get

151:24

little eczema flare-ups.

151:25

>> A lot of people are allergic to it and a

151:27

lot of people don't think it's actually

151:29

the gluten. They think it's actually how

151:31

they um finish the crops with

151:33

glyphosate.

151:34

>> I've heard about that.

151:35

>> Yeah. Which kind of makes sense because

151:37

like why are all these gluten

151:39

intolerant? What? Nobody heard about

151:42

those in the 70s.

151:43

>> No,

151:43

>> there was no one gluten intolerant.

151:45

>> No, it was dude weird. The weird thing

151:48

is my mom, she's always been a health

151:50

person. She got this book. She had

151:52

health problems and like it was might

151:54

have been in the 80s. My aunt was a

151:55

nurse, gave her this book, and my mom

151:57

self diagnosed gluten allergy in like

151:59

the 80s and everyone's like, "You're out

152:01

of your [ __ ] mind. Like nobody has

152:03

this blah blah blah." And yeah, and then

152:06

like when I was in college, I was like,

152:07

"Dude, like I like I feel like my every

152:09

time I swallow food, it feels stuck in

152:11

my throat. My I have like gas. I'm

152:12

burping. My stomach's [ __ ] up. I'm not

152:14

sleeping." I was having like racing

152:16

thoughts and [ __ ] and she was like, "Oh,

152:18

try not eating gluten for a while."

152:19

Dude, it cleared it up like big time. It

152:21

was insane.

152:22

>> I wonder if that's the same with like

152:24

gluten that you get in Europe where

152:25

they're not using any glyphosate.

152:27

>> No, that's what I heard. You can eat

152:28

apparently you can go eat it, you know,

152:29

in Europe and it's fine. I remember I

152:31

took a test finally and it was like I it

152:34

was like one of those like internet

152:35

blood test things and I came up like

152:38

allergic to not even the gluten. It's

152:40

like glidian which is like another

152:42

protein inside of wheat which I don't

152:44

know if it's at the same thing or what.

152:45

It's just like an allergy to it.

152:47

>> I showed I showed it to Shane. He it was

152:48

like it was moderate and he goes

152:50

moderate. You're a [ __ ]

152:53

Have a pizza. I was like [ __ ] why did I

152:56

show you? He was always like everyone's

152:57

like it's fake. It's in your head.

152:58

You're full of [ __ ] So I finally have

153:00

proof. I'm like, "What are you going to

153:01

do about it now?" He goes, "Modderate,

153:02

pussy." And like, "Fuck."

153:04

>> It's one of the worst intolerances to

153:06

have cuz the food is so delicious.

153:09

>> Like, think about it. Spaghetti,

153:10

lasagna, bread,

153:13

>> sandwiches.

153:14

>> I don't I And you eating the gluten-free

153:16

bread is like not is not at that point,

153:18

you just go like, I'm not eating bread.

153:19

It's not really good. In order to make

153:21

it good, you have to put so much [ __ ] in

153:23

it that you're like, I might as well not

153:24

eat it. I I've been off gluten since I

153:26

was like 21.

153:27

>> Wow. And then anytime I would like

153:29

backslide at a restaurant where they

153:30

cook with it and stuff, it would, you

153:32

know, [ __ ] me up. Weirdly enough,

153:33

though, if I get enough sunlight, I it

153:36

like my I can tolerate a lot more stuff.

153:39

>> I guarantee that's a vitamin D thing.

153:40

>> I I think I don't know. It's weird, man.

153:42

Every time I go to a doctor, they're

153:44

just like, "Bro, I don't know. I don't

153:45

know what to tell you."

153:45

>> Well, vitamin D is good for your immune

153:47

system, and these are autoimmune issues.

153:49

It makes sense that they would kind of

153:51

be connected somehow or another. Yeah,

153:53

because I I couldn't eat after the

153:54

gluten. It was like then I couldn't eat

153:56

dairy and then every time I'd get

153:57

sunlight, I could eat the d. It's

153:58

[ __ ] weird.

153:59

>> How nuts is the sunlight thing? Like for

154:01

so long people are saying stay out of

154:02

the sun. Sun's going to kill you. It's

154:04

crazy.

154:04

>> And now now they're going, "No, no, no.

154:06

You need to get in the sun or you're

154:07

going to die."

154:08

>> I know. I know. I know.

154:10

>> What's the new We got the new food

154:11

pyramid now.

154:12

>> I know. Well, a lot of people are so

154:14

angry. They're so angry at RFK Jr. for

154:17

flipping the food pyramid. But there's

154:18

so much evidence that this is the

154:20

accurate way to eat. This is the way

154:22

people are supposed to be eating. It's

154:23

like whole foods. Like actual food, like

154:25

vegetables, meat, fish. Like that's what

154:27

you're supposed to eat. Like actual food

154:29

that people have been eating for

154:30

thousands of years. That's how you're

154:32

supposed to eat.

154:32

>> Dude, I that's the one I That's the

154:34

stuff the backlash against him that I'm

154:35

like I don't get it, man. It's like

154:37

getting like the weird [ __ ] out of foods

154:38

that they don't have in Europe for like

154:40

schools and stuff. And it's like

154:41

>> that was always the leftwing's position.

154:44

It was like no preservatives, no

154:45

additives, natural foods.

154:47

>> I know that. And that's the thing, too.

154:48

Like I I love like cuz I have all these

154:50

food allergies. So, like I got to go to

154:52

like a hipstery kind of like rainbow

154:54

flag restaurant. That's the only place I

154:56

can eat from. So, I'm like, I know you

154:57

guys like this. Why are you pretending

154:58

to not like getting rid of like Red 40

155:00

and all that [ __ ]

155:01

>> Because it's connected with Trump

155:03

because RFK Jr. is a part of this party

155:06

or part of this administration. And so,

155:08

it became a political thing. People are

155:10

just so silly. They'd rather commit

155:12

suicide.

155:13

>> They'd rather poison themselves than

155:14

admit that he's right.

155:15

>> It's insane. Just be like, "Dude, just

155:16

give him one and be like, all right,

155:17

that's actually a good one." But it's

155:19

that that resistance to recognizing

155:22

maybe this person that I don't agree

155:25

with because he's connected to this

155:26

other person that I don't agree with,

155:28

maybe he's got some good points.

155:30

>> Maybe if a person that was like someone

155:33

that I aligned with ideologically had

155:35

the same points, I would be like, "Yes,

155:38

thank you. Yes, these preservatives are

155:40

terrible. Yes, these dyes are terrible.

155:42

Yes, this is bad for you. Yes, you

155:44

should have warning labels. Yes, other

155:46

countries have banned these products.

155:48

Why do we have them? Yes,

155:49

>> dude. And especially like if you have

155:51

kids, it's like, dude, you worry more

155:53

about that than like your kids not

155:54

eating a bunch of crazy [ __ ]

155:56

>> Yeah.

155:56

>> It's like, dude, just let it go. You can

155:58

be like, "All right, like I don't like

156:00

this, but that's [ __ ] I like that.

156:01

Let's let them cook on that." And it's

156:03

like,

156:03

>> well, so many people that aren't

156:04

religion don't have religion in their

156:07

life, they worship science. like science

156:10

it they they treat it as if this is like

156:13

a doctrine and a dogma and if you don't

156:16

support it you're a heretic like there's

156:18

something wrong with you.

156:19

>> It's like well do you know those people

156:21

these scientists? Like a lot of them are

156:23

[ __ ] severely compromised. They're

156:24

compromised by financial incentives.

156:26

They're compromised by academic

156:28

incentives. They're trapped in these

156:30

systems where you're you're you're

156:32

forced to have group think. You have

156:33

this top down control. The people that

156:35

at the top are controlled and connected

156:37

to these pharmaceutical drug companies.

156:39

They're pushing these ideas. Like this

156:41

isn't all clean. They're hanging with

156:42

Epstein, too. And

156:44

>> I know. Is that crazy?

156:45

>> You love scientists, man. Thank god I

156:47

wasn't a scientist. Is

156:48

>> that weird? It's so weird.

156:49

>> That's so [ __ ] creep. Yeah, it's And

156:51

the science [ __ ] is like, cuz I do know

156:54

this from going to masters. I know you

156:56

need to understand statistics. You need

156:58

like a very serious understanding of

157:00

statistics to actually make sense of

157:02

those studies. And I I never was able to

157:04

do that, but it's like you can read

157:06

those studies and like, oh, look at

157:07

this. It's a graph. Everything's going

157:08

up. And it's like, yeah, but like

157:10

>> what was like the percentage of the what

157:12

this and and it's like statistics is for

157:14

real like magic to me where it's like

157:16

it's so slippery and weird and like you

157:18

can make one thing look this way and

157:19

it's you can arrange the data in a

157:21

different way and you're like, "Oh [ __ ]

157:22

the [ __ ] thing went up and now this

157:24

is better." It's like, well, that's what

157:25

pharmaceutical drug companies do for

157:27

sure. They'll they'll run multiple

157:29

studies and then throw out all the ones

157:32

that show no efficacy

157:33

>> and even hide dangerous side effects.

157:36

They hide them.

157:37

>> Yeah. I think they're allowed to do as

157:38

many I I remember reading a book at on

157:40

anti-depressants like years and years

157:41

ago and I think they were allowed to do

157:43

as many studies as it needed to like

157:46

show basically what they wanted to say,

157:47

which wasn't even good. It was like 50%.

157:50

We had a um a lawyer in here that had

157:53

he'd worked on cases with pharmaceutical

157:55

drug companies and one of the things

157:56

that he said that was really crazy was

157:58

he found out that the pharmaceutical

158:00

drug companies don't when they get

158:02

peer-reviewed when their papers get

158:04

peer-reviewed they don't have to give

158:05

the data to the scientists. They give

158:08

their review of the data to the

158:11

scientists and then it gets peer review.

158:14

>> Damn.

158:15

>> That's [ __ ] up.

158:15

>> It's like rigged.

158:16

>> Yeah, that's crazy.

158:17

>> So rigged. Remember the study that was

158:19

like if you drink one glass of wine,

158:20

you're going to be healthy?

158:21

>> Yeah,

158:22

>> that was complete [ __ ] That was

158:23

made by a body of science that was like

158:25

promoted by the big alcohol companies.

158:27

>> It was completely false. I know so many

158:29

people who were like, "Dude, it's good

158:30

for me.

158:31

>> Oh,

158:32

>> I need I need alcohol every day."

158:33

>> They were also saying resveratrol. That

158:35

was one grape [ __ ] And it's also just

158:37

like eat a [ __ ] grape then.

158:38

>> Well, also take resveratrol. It's a good

158:41

supplement. And the the amount that you

158:43

get in supplements is like far exceeds a

158:45

glass of wine. You have to drink the

158:46

whole bottle.

158:47

>> Yeah. and you're hammered

158:48

>> and you're drunk. Your liver's

158:51

destroyed.

158:52

>> Yeah, that [ __ ] always threw me off. And

158:54

I remember I remember at the time being

158:55

like there's no [ __ ] way that's true.

158:59

No, you hang out more and you're less

159:00

lonely and

159:01

>> I think there's something to the

159:03

relaxation of alcohol that like at least

159:06

it makes you feel better. And I think

159:07

feeling better is a part of like having

159:10

a better life and having a better a

159:12

healthier mind because there's something

159:15

about people that are just riddled with

159:17

anxiety and thinking about things all

159:19

the time. There's a lot of people out

159:20

there that are just

159:21

>> they don't have the tools to navigate

159:23

this [ __ ] up world. And so they're all

159:26

a little drinky poo every now and then.

159:28

Maybe not bad for them. Maybe a little

159:30

just [ __ ] it juice like

159:32

>> Yeah, true. If you drop the cortisol at

159:34

night time,

159:34

>> just a little bit, little relaxation.

159:36

There's a lot of people that like

159:38

>> one of the only things keeping them

159:39

hanging on is a drink at night, you

159:41

know, just a little drink. Just nothing

159:43

crazy. You're not getting killing

159:45

yourself.

159:46

>> Yeah, I wouldn't want to take that from

159:47

somebody either.

159:48

>> Yeah,

159:48

>> I don't want to take that from people.

159:49

>> That's true. I wouldn't want to take

159:50

that. But it is it's just nuts to be

159:52

like, "This is actually really good for

159:53

you."

159:53

>> It's like, well, it's lesser of two

159:55

evils for sure. It's like

159:56

>> Or would they try to say that like Froot

159:58

Loops were healthier for you than ground

160:01

beef? Wasn't that one of the studies?

160:03

>> Was it really?

160:03

>> Yeah. Like they had comparisons like

160:06

they had a chart like where where things

160:08

fit on the healthy versus not healthy.

160:11

>> That's [ __ ] insane. Well, the old

160:13

food pyramid was the best. It was like

160:14

cereal, bread, and pasta. That was what

160:17

you're supposed to eat like most of your

160:19

food.

160:20

>> You're supposed to be charged on just

160:21

[ __ ] like elbow macaroni.

160:24

>> It was like that was for real growing

160:26

up. That's what it was.

160:27

>> I remember eating. Meanwhile, people in

160:28

France, they're eating loaves of bread

160:30

and they don't get fat.

160:31

>> I know.

160:32

>> And they're healthy.

160:33

>> I know. That is [ __ ] weird, man.

160:34

>> It's We're getting poisoned.

160:35

>> Yeah. Everyone who comes here from

160:37

another country is like, I feel

160:38

horrible.

160:39

>> They have a hot dog and they're [ __ ]

160:41

vomiting in a trash can.

160:46

>> All right, dog. Let's wrap this up.

160:48

>> Can I uh one more thing?

160:49

>> Yeah, please.

160:50

>> Going around. Uh Wexner's uh deposition

160:53

from the oversight committee came out

160:55

like the full video did today. And

160:57

there's this clip going around that I

160:58

don't know what the context is. I'll

161:00

show you. It's on the screen right now.

161:01

Jo.

161:03

>> Okay.

161:03

>> I just want to play it and see.

161:04

>> It says, "I'll [ __ ] kill you if you

161:06

answer another question with more than

161:07

five words." Okay.

161:08

>> Literally done.

161:12

>> I will [ __ ] kill you if you answer

161:14

another question. Okay.

161:18

>> Answer.

161:20

>> Okay. He seems like he's joking.

161:22

>> Seems like it. But

161:23

>> he wants him to answer questions. Very

161:25

short answers. I keep seeing people

161:27

saying you're not allowed to be coached

161:29

in a deposition.

161:30

>> Oh, that makes sense.

161:32

>> I don't know if this is

161:33

>> I'll [ __ ] kill you if you answer

161:35

another question with more than five

161:36

words. Okay, that's hilarious that he

161:38

thought he could whisper that. That's

161:39

crazy.

161:43

>> That's so [ __ ] up. But what is their

161:45

relationship like? They [ __ ] around like

161:47

that.

161:48

>> I can't tell. It's really hard to tell.

161:49

>> It's hard to say what that is.

161:50

>> That almost was kind of charming. I'm

161:52

like, it's kind of like sweet actually

161:53

in some weird way. He's saying his

161:56

answers in this are pretty tough

161:58

already. I can see he's like, "I had no

161:59

idea." They're like, "You stealing money

162:01

from me? ABC reported this 5 years ago."

162:03

Like [ __ ] crazy. That's news to me.

162:05

>> He didn't know that Epstein was stealing

162:07

money from

162:07

>> That's what he's saying in some of these

162:09

clips here.

162:11

>> We'll see how this where this goes.

162:12

>> Yeah, true.

162:13

>> If nothing ever happens, people are

162:15

going to lose all faith in everything.

162:17

>> Yeah.

162:18

>> If nothing happens from all this, if

162:20

Prince Andrew is the only one who goes

162:21

down and what if he just gets a slap on

162:23

the wrist? He's completely going to get

162:24

a slap on the He's not going to like

162:26

[ __ ] maximum security. He's not going

162:27

to like Oz. He's not going to be in

162:28

there like doing burpees and [ __ ] He's

162:30

going to be He's going to be in

162:31

protective custody.

162:33

>> He's only in jail for 11 hours. He's

162:35

technically out now,

162:36

>> right? But he's going to be tried,

162:39

>> right?

162:39

>> We'll see.

162:40

>> Well, see, the thing is like I never

162:42

thought he'd be arrested. I never

162:44

thought that would happen. I thought

162:45

like they'd strip him of his friendship

162:47

or whatever it is. That's it.

162:49

>> Banishing him to a and then they they

162:50

kicked him out of the estate. I was

162:52

like, "Whoa, things are getting

162:53

serious."

162:53

>> Yeah. I think they saw I think they got

162:55

to see the stuff and they're like, "Bro,

162:57

what the fuck?"

162:58

>> They must.

162:59

>> Yeah.

163:00

>> Yeah. All right, let's wrap this up.

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Dude, it's been a lot of fun hanging

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club. It's been good times, dude.

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>> It's been Dude, it's been awesome.

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>> It's fun watching your act grow, too.

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It's really funny, man. Really great.

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And you're where this weekend?

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>> Salt Lake. Salt Lake City and Boise,

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Idaho. So,

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>> go get some tickets, folks. Go see them.

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Matt McCusker, [ __ ] hilarious.

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Appreciate you, brother. Thank you. Very

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funny. Bye everybody.

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Joe Rogan and Matt McCusker explore topics including the comedy industry, health optimization, and high-profile conspiracies. They discuss the merits of the carnivore diet versus fiber intake, the best ways to absorb Vitamin D, and the suspicious circumstances of Jeffrey Epstein's death. McCusker also details his experiences with the 'groupthink' prevalent in modern social work education and the biological impacts of the toxoplasmosis parasite.

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