Upgrade Your PC Now For Minecraft - WAN Show July 31, 2026
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What's up everybody? It's been a chill
week. Welcome to the WAN show. I built a
chicken coupe.
>> I did not have a chill week.
>> Nice. You know what else happened this
week? All kinds of stuff. California
wants to ban 3D printers that can't
detect when a gun is being printed. And
oh,
terrible news of terrible news.
Minecraft is getting a significant
[clears throat] system requirements
upgrade. Well, which is to say that you
are downgrading how easy the game is to
run, but you'll have to upgrade your PC
in order to play Minecraft. What else we
got this week?
>> GG Good Old Games confirms that GOG
Galaxy for Linux is in the works. That's
exciting. Another another win. Uh and
also apparently uh the US Department of
Justice has decided that uh deleting
files is illegal now.
Yeah.
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Why don't we jump right into our
headline topic, which is, of course, the
big controversy this week. Minecraft
system requirements have been bumped for
the first time in 17 years. That's
right, folks.
>> The big controversy this week,
>> the official The official meme, but can
it run Minecraft? The classic The
original. Okay. Not the original. Can it
run Crisis was the original, but but but
can it run Minecraft was the meme
version?
>> I don't think I ever heard that.
>> But can it run Minecraft? Yeah.
>> What? What are you talking about? That's
such a thing.
And like playing Minecraft on something,
dude. Minecraft. Yes. Yes. 100%. Anyway,
Minecraft Java Edition, the original PC
version of Minecraft for Windows, Mac,
O, and Linux is going from Oh. Oh, good
lord. Wow. Oh, wow. These requirements.
These requirements. It's not too much,
but it is quite a jump. minimum
requirements. The game is now targeting
1080p at 30 fps on the fast preset. And
to do that, you will need, and I quote,
folks, a 64bit system.
>> That is 60 bits plus 4. That's that's 70
- 6 bits. You're going to need 64 of
them. 64 bits.
You will need you will need 8 billion
bytes of RAM or 64 billion bits of RAM.
Okay, that's if you have a discrete GPU.
>> That's a lot of bits of RAM.
>> If you are running integrated graphics,
you will need 12 billion bytes of RAM.
And I I can't quickly do 12* 8 in my
head. So, we don't even know how much
that is. It It could be 96. It
[laughter] could be 92. We're not sure.
Nobody knows. You will need a four core
processor.
[laughter]
Good lord. I mean, oh, you might have to
have a PC from 2006,
you know. It
um you will also need a Vulcan 1.3
capable GPU with at least 2 billion
bytes of VRAM. Um, now I'm obviously
memeing on this a little bit because you
could you could probably literally I
have found computers on the side of the
road
>> that could run this
>> that could run Minecraft,
>> but this is a pretty significant uplift
in the the recommended minimum
requirements. It used to only require 2
gigs of RAM. This could be really good
actually cuz if they were being held
back by those old requirements like my
god this is actually a very substantial
jump.
>> I'm going to be honest with you. Um I
don't uh
>> you don't think they were using it as a
guideline?
>> I I I I don't think they were and I
don't think that this is going to make
that much of a difference. I suspect the
increase in system requirements is more
>> to run your Discord in the background.
We actually did a video recently
comparing Oh man, there's going to be a
bit of a spoiler here. Okay, so go like
this. Okay, here's your spoiler
avoidance instructions. Go like this and
go like this and go like this. La. Okay,
do it for about
13 seconds. I'm just going to do this
real quick. Okay, in our exploration,
Linux used significantly less RAM than
Windows
>> in the background. not as much of a
difference in the running foreground
applications, but so much less in the
background that on Windows you just
fundamentally have a certain amount of
RAM that you just need before you can
run anything. So, what I believe is that
this update is more reflective of how
much RAM Windows needs to suck in the
background while you're playing
Minecraft. I I haven't actually seen
what the what the fidelity increases
are. Are there any fidelity? I don't
know that there is any.
>> It seems to me that they're just kind of
catching up with the times. As for
running on recommended, the game is now
targeting 1080p at 60 fps with the fancy
preset for for recommended. And to hit
that target, you will need Okay, this is
where things get a little real. 16 gigs
of RAM, a stronger, modern processor,
and a more capable graphics card with 6
gigs of VRAM. Note, it used to only
require 4 gigs of RAM as it's uh for
recommended.
Wow.
So, the people that are now below
minimum requirements
accounts for 1.42%
of of users on Steam. So, I am grabbing
the 4 gig and the less than 4 gig
categories and that they do seem to be
shrinking with 16, 24, and 48.
>> Mhm.
>> growing. Kind of surprised it's not 32.
>> I have 48 and it's cursed and I hate it.
>> Yeah,
>> I don't like it.
>> Well, the thing about it though is that
especially with RAM prices being what
they are, if 32 gigs is not enough and
64 gigs is not affordable,
>> you do what you can. Yeah. I mean, 48
gigs is a pretty pretty nice place to
be, actually.
>> Yeah.
>> Anyway,
>> it's uncomfortable.
>> The change happened on the 21st of July,
and this is a quote. Performance and
visual quality are no longer guaranteed
on hardware below the new minimum. Also,
this is fun. I don't I don't know who
was working on the doc here, but
>> there's some there's some there's some
fun
>> find the hidden text like AI
optimization going on in the WAN doc
helping to reinforce this point I guess
for any AIs that are reading this
document. Anyway, our discussion
question here is what do you make of
this requirement change given the
ongoing RAM apocalypse? I mean,
>> we're talking DDR3
grade specs here.
>> Yeah, I think they're probably accepting
where they are at more than changing
much.
>> I mean, what is what is what what was
the requirement? 16 gigs.
>> 16 gigs DDR3. I'm pretty sure that's
actually still pretty affordable.
Okay, so I can pick up a couple HyperX
Furies for
That's kind of more than I would really
Wait, hold on a second. Capacity. How
Oh, okay. Here we go. Here we go. Here
we go. Most popular. Sure. Color.
What if I don't care? Oh, are they just
all Are they just all the same price?
Oh, yeah. They're just They're just all
the same price. So, yeah. 40 45 bucks.
Yeah, that doesn't seem like the best
deal. These guys seem
>> That doesn't seem great.
>> Yeah, I think we can I think we can do
better than that. Okay, here's a
2x8,600.
>> There you go.
>> $14. And yeah, the shipping's Oh, the
shipping. Oh, okay. That Yeah, that's
just Canada things. That that's pretty
reasonable actually for
>> if you're not in Canada that'll be a lot
cheaper. Shipping in Canada is a
nightmare.
>> Yeah. So if you're in the US and you're
buying from someone in the US, you could
probably get it for just like I don't
know eight bucks shipped or whatever.
With that said, shipping rates have been
going up like so many things.
Anything to do with fuel pretty much. Um
what else we got here? Our other
discussion question is here's a little
Carpool Critics/ They're just movies
throwback. Riley was pleasantly
surprised by the Minecraft movie. Who
prepared this? Okay. By the Minecraft
movie and he quite likes it. Did you see
the movie? What did you think? Did you
see the Minecraft movie?
>> Oh, it was it was pretty okay.
>> Chicken joggy.
>> Yeah, it was very it was obviously
designed for pretty much every scene to
have something, you know, GIF worthy,
memew worthy, Tik Tok worthy. Um,
but it it got like it kind of it kind of
worked. Um, I didn't I wasn't I wasn't
expecting to laugh at Jason Mimoa's
performance like when he meant for me to
laugh at it, you [snorts] know, like I I
watched I watched Aquaman and I laughed
like belly laughed like frequently
during that movie. I don't think it was
meant to be funny, but it was just it
was so stupid. Um, like they did you
watch Aquaman?
>> No.
>> Oh man, it was just [laughter]
>> I had no no desire to watch Aquaman. I
like kind of thought about maybe seeing
the Minecraft movie. I had no desire to
see Aquaman.
>> It's worth it. It's worth it because
they'll just like you know you know how
like uh you know how like a superhero
will always like land like in this pose,
you know? [snorts] Aquaman takes that
>> like far beyond.
[laughter]
>> It like it just it goes on.
>> We should do a
>> forever. It It never ends. It's It's
crazy.
>> We should do a Computer Man movie.
>> So I What?
>> That would be kind of sick. We used to
do like uh like remember that uh
Stormtrooper rap? Oh, I guess I was I
was remembering that today because I
actually sent you this.
>> I came across that Andrew Tate had a
short rap
>> attempt at a career. [laughter]
It is exactly as bad as you would think.
>> Okay. I'm excited to check that out.
>> Um anyway, I
>> What?
>> Yeah. Oh my You know what? You obviously
don't play it.
>> No, no, no.
>> But you you should just just do it. Just
just watch it. Anyway, I wasn't
expecting to laugh unironically at Jason
Mamoa, but I actually thought he was
pretty good. And Jack Black always
brings it. I [laughter]
>> like seconds in. It's hilarious.
[laughter]
[gasps]
>> It's even worse with audio.
>> His smile is just so brutal.
>> Imagine having negative riz.
>> Yeah,
I think that might be like the worst.
Yeah, someone one. [laughter]
That's where I started laughing.
What a dork. [laughter]
Oh, that's awesome.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Well, I'm excited to properly
check that out later.
>> Yeah. My favorite meme I've seen is uh
going from incel to incel. [laughter]
[gasps]
>> Um anyh who, what were we talking about?
Yeah. Minecraft movie. I I actually I I
actually I I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it
quite a lot. Um,
>> I I had I had kind of like a concept
that I kind of really
liked and I I got my got got it in my
head that I thought it would have been
really cool if um
if Oh man, I actually forget what it
was. Whatever the direction they went
with it was was fun, whimsical. I have
no idea. Did they do a second one
already or is that one still coming? I
can't remember.
>> Is it still coming?
>> Yeah, I I don't know. I have pretty low
expectations for the second one. Did you
end up seeing the uh Super Mario Galaxy
movie?
>> That's a cute name. Minecraft movie
Squared is coming in 2027.
>> Nice. I wonder what they'll call the
third one. [laughter]
>> No, I have not seen Mario Galaxy.
>> Oh, are you just like over movies at
this point? I feel like I I feel like a
a Nintendo movie would be pretty high up
on
>> I used to be very into movies. Um, I
used to go to, you know, Colossus like
all the time. I would go see basically
everything new that was coming out,
>> right?
>> Um, I was I was very into watching
movies. Um, and then I don't know,
something kind of clicked.
>> I think it was just the onslaught of
Marvel stuff
>> and a few other just like junk things
that came out. Uh, there was The Diamond
in the Rough. We went to go see Barbie.
>> That was fun.
>> That was fun. Uh, and then fairly
recently I went to go see Hail Mary.
That was awesome. Really like that.
>> I got to get on that.
>> Um, going to see Hail Mary has kind of
inspired me to like maybe I should start
looking at,
>> you know, what's in the theater a little
bit more often again stuff cuz I've been
completely disconnected from movies for
a long time. I am very exhausted on
superhero movies.
>> Too many. I saw on a the plane back from
Open Sauce. Um, I was trying to work on
my laptop, but the C was so small that
um I the keyboard was up against my
chest and I had to type like this.
>> Okay, nice.
>> So, like that gets pretty annoying
sometimes. So, I was watching a show
while I was trying to get some work done
and I put on I think it was No Way Home,
Spider-Man No Way Home. And that was
like that was okay, but I've been I I
feel like I've been able to stomach the
Spider-Man movies better than most the
other one. Are are those made by Sony?
No.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> No, but they're just they're just they
have been pretty consistently pretty
good.
>> I've I've when I've seen bits of those,
I've been enjoying those more than most,
but just in general. Yeah. For for a
while, I've been a little just tired of
superhero movies in general.
>> This is unironically good.
>> Oh, yeah. Okay. I didn't even know this
was a thing.
>> Yeah. It was like seven years ago.
>> Okay. and uh it just showed up on my
radar when I was looking for like family
movies to watch with the kids and it's
rated like 94% on Rotten Tomatoes both
critics and audience and I'm like come
on you've got to be kidding. It's
actually really funny.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Very good. The second one sucks.
>> Yeah.
>> Even though it's also rated really well.
It was just on my mind cuz we like just
watched it the other night.
>> This is a spoiler for No Way Home. So,
if you don't want to take your
headphones off for a second, I'll put my
hand up when I'm done. Um, but when when
when the three guys come together, the
three Spider-Man.
>> Yeah,
>> that was cool.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> I like that a lot, actually.
>> No's great.
>> I thought that was that was pretty sick.
I didn't get to see the ending. The
flight was not very long.
>> Oh, okay. So, you actually have not
watched the movie then?
>> No, I've watched like threequarters of
it.
>> Okay.
>> But it was pretty good.
>> Is this an Oh. Uh uh. Wow. I'm really
glad we had that conversation. That what
a fulfilling and satisfying conclusion
to it. [laughter]
>> There you go.
>> Terrific. [clears throat]
I Why don't we jump into another topic
here? [laughter]
4 gig GPUs are back on the menu, boys.
Introducing the AMD
9050. AMD has unveiled their new RX950
with an 8 gig retail model and
surprisingly a 4 gig version that also
exists. The 8 gig 9050 is rolling out
first in the Asia-Pacific and Latin
America regions with a reported $279
price tag. ASRock briefly showed off a 4
gig RX9050 Challenger model on its site
before taking the listing down, but
screenshots of the page are still
circulating. AMD only lists the 8 gig
version of the card. A Tom's Hardware
article indicates that the 8 gig variant
has a 128 bit memory bus while the 4 gig
version only has a 64bit memory bus.
Wow, that is exactly the same number of
bits that your CPU needs to have to run
Minecraft.
What a coincidence.
>> Just to address some people in chat seem
to be confused. I did not lose interest
in watching the movie. The the plane
landed on the ground.
>> Yes.
>> Anyways, there one of the discussion
questions is uh who is this even for? Is
this 2016? What is this suggest entry-le
GPU market is heading? Is this Are we
gonna get better optimized games or
what? In my opinion, no. We're gonna get
more Roblox.
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And Minecraft.
>> What's the minimum requirements for
Roblox?
>> Oh, like nothing.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, WCCF text Hassan M
Hassan tweeted that AMD Muchaba, I'm
going to try. Okay. Muchaba, we're going
with that. tweeted that AMD confirmed to
him that the 4 gig version is intended
for OEMs only, meaning it will be found
in pre-built PCs rather than sold as a
standalone graphics card. So, yeah, the
the answer for, you know, who is this
for? You know, what is it for? What year
is it? Um, is it's for very very budget
machines. And it's funny to me because I
feel like this is one of those things
that just kind of comes around cyclally.
Um, underspec crappy OEM machines have
always been a thing. The only difference
here is that we're getting an underspec
crappy dedicated graphics card so that
you can do some rudimentary gaming
rather than underspec crappy integrated
graphics that realistically can't do
anything. So,
I guess that's something. Uh, as for the
existence of sort of crummy lower spec
versions of cards that have cut down
memory buses and cut down VRAMm, that
has been a thing going back to my
infamous showdown with uh, Sapphire of
all people. I bought like a like a
Radeon 9200
SE or something like that. 9250 SE. I
forget what it was, but basically like
my my family wanted to run like some
basic game on the the family computer at
the time that I already had like my own
computer. And was it a 96? No, it was
9600 SE, I think. Anyway, it doesn't
matter. The point is that I only found
out after I bought it that it was like a
crappy 64-bit memory bus version, and
that was not advertised anywhere except
on like the European region
>> site.
Um, and so I I pretty much like I I
wanted an RMA. I wanted a 128 bit card.
And they basically told me to pound
sand. And I ignored Sapphire for years
and years and years and years. And I'm
over it now. You can tell. [laughter]
>> You can tell by the way that I'm totally
over it. Totally.
>> I mean, and you know what? This this
sucks because this is going to be like a
whole new generation of people is going
to buy a preconfigured system thinking
that they're getting a 9050 which isn't
great, but they're still going to see
performance reviews out there for what
it supposedly is and they're going to
get this cut down memory bus and they're
going to get this cut down memory
quantity and they're going to be getting
worse performance. And unless they are
pretty savvy in terms of running
comparative benchmarks, um, they're not
even going to probably realize they're
just going to like have crappier
performance. I I I hate this kind of
confusing
branding and I just don't think I don't
see any path to us getting rid of it.
>> Here's a question for you.
>> Sure.
>> Would you go for that or this?
$63. I mean, at that price Oh, obviously
this. Yeah, I can get this for
>> less.
Let's assume you're in the States. So,
this shipping isn't going to be $26.
>> Yeah,
>> it'll be something 15 or something.
>> Sure. Let's call it
>> But it won't be 26.
>> Let's call it 80 bucks.
>> Yeah,
>> 80 bucks shipped.
>> Yeah,
>> I would take the heck out of this. I'm
not going to get a warranty. Like, I
feel like we always have to acknowledge
that there could be.
>> And that is a negative. Yeah, that is a
negative.
>> I've had very very few. I I don't
actually remember a GPU fully dying on
me ever.
>> But there are, you know,
>> there are cases where it happens.
>> There's degrees of dead, right? Like I'm
reading The Princess Bride to my girls
right now. And, you know, there's
there's all dead and there's also mostly
dead, right? And so for a lot of people,
a failed fan bearing on something like a
GPU cooler, that could be a death
sentence. Yeah, I have that
>> because at that kind of a price, right,
we're talking this is $63.50. Okay, so
why don't we go ahead and try to find a
replacement fan for this GPU? You could
probably get it for maybe, I don't know,
10 bucks, something like that. But how
much is the shipping going to be another
10, 20 bucks? Zapstrapping a 120 to it
to be honest.
>> Not everyone's comfortable with that.
>> No, totally. Totally.
>> And
I disagree.
>> Sure.
>> I would zip tie a fan to it. Yeah.
>> But I also I I have to acknowledge
>> a lot of people won't.
>> Just because I don't agree with
something doesn't mean that it, you
know, doesn't exist.
>> Yeah. Totally.
>> So,
I understand why people buy a literally
way worse new thing,
but I I don't relate to it, if that
makes sense.
>> Yeah. Like you can get them, but when
that that is such a high percentage of
the card that you just bought.
>> That's like buying brand new tires for a
$1,000 car.
>> Yeah.
>> Like I just
>> Yeah.
>> I I I was
>> That's a massive percentage.
>> I was that guy with my old Civic. Like
literally, you reach a certain point
where a vehicle is worth so little that
you go, "Oh, it needs new windshield
wipers. Well, it." [laughter] Like
I guess it's gone then. Like I'm not
going to Okay, obviously exaggerating a
little, but I think you guys understand
what I mean.
>> I mean, that kind of This is not on the
scale of windshield wipers, but my uh my
fuel injectors in my car blew up and it
was like, "What's the repair for this?"
No, that literally genuinely costs more
than the car. I offered to give it to
the mechanic and the mechanic was like,
"No, [laughter]
it's not worth fixing." And that's how
you know
>> that they're not just like jerking you
around if you offer to give them the
car. And they're like,
>> cuz I was like, I don't know what to do
with it. And he was like, well, push it
to the um push it to like the the metal
wrecking thing down the road
>> and then they'll give you like a few
bucks for it, but you're going to get
wrecked because there's a lot of
non-metal materials, so they'll value it
at like the lowest part of the whatever
curve thingy, whatever. And I got like I
think it was like not very much money,
but yeah.
>> Uh hold on. Where we where we got the
Maxo Drive says, "Hey,
>> push it by hand."
>> I spent $800 on tires for my $600 truck.
Okay, I'm going to I'm going to be
honest with you guys. Once my car was
worth under about 2500 bucks, I stopped
buying new tires and I started just
buying like one used tire. So, by I
don't you probably never noticed this
because why would anybody look that
closely, but by the end of the Civic's
life, it had like four mismatched tires
on it, which I know you are not supposed
to do, but they all had some tread on
them. Like, I'm [laughter] just I'm not
going to spend that kind of money on
something that's not worth that kind of
money. It just
>> this this is
>> except my bike. That was an exception.
>> Mostly not on topic. And I you can't do
this with consumer tires. I think it
works specifically for this, but have
you seen people uh retread like forklift
tires and stuff?
>> I have heard of that.
>> That's actually crazy. Their tires are
different. You can't just do that. But
like it is it is cool. Wait, Luke's
Acura is gone. No. No.
>> Magnetic Flux asks, "Did you spend more
on modding your bike than the cost of
the bike?"
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Pretty sure by quite a bit,
>> dude. I I've I probably sp It's a 2003.
like what what is a 2003 SV worth? Uh
for sale 2003 SV 650S here.
>> My my Acura, which is from 2009. I
bought it in 2013, uh has had one
unscheduled repair ever, and it was
minor. Um it costs very little. At this
point in time, I would consider
potentially spending more on repairing
it than it is technically worth. And the
reason for that for me would be is that
I would know the state of it. If I
bought another car at that similar
value, I don't think I'd be able to like
trust it as much.
>> Wow, these things are actually
>> Have you done timing belt? I think that
was a scheduled repair last time it
happened. I think I'm going to need to
do an unscheduled one now because there
is no schedule left, if that makes
sense.
>> These things are actually worth a fair
bit still. That's a 2012. Ignore that
one. 2006 3,700 bucks. Uh here's a Wow,
that's a lot. That's a lot of kilometers
on a bike though. 60,000 km uh for three
grand. Yeah. Um so I probably not quite
but I probably spent close to that on
the paint.
>> Um so yeah, definitely. That was not
about the bike though. That was not
about fixing anything. It was perfectly
functional when I took it into the shop.
It was about the project. It was about
It was about painting something.
>> Yeah. Sorry. I I said that very poorly.
I my car will do it'll like tell me when
a scheduled thing is up. Um I think it
genuinely stops doing that after a while
which is what I'm was referencing by
that. I know there's the interval
things. I'm coming up to a a decently
major interval repair soon
>> cuz I just passed
210 I think and there's one coming soon.
Clapped K24 Accord says they kind of
reach that age where they're just worth
one price as long as they're in decent
shape with average mileage. Every car
kind of reaches that. Yeah. Yeah.
There's a lot of types of vehicles that
kind of reach that point in their
depreciation curve. So, you could like
buy it and then sell it later. And like
girl math, it didn't really cost
anything.
>> I wonder if part of I wonder if part of
that is uh because people use them for
parts to keep their other ones going.
>> Uh I'm not sure. I mean, it's I know
it's definitely a thing. Like, um, the
shop that was working on mine said that
there were parts that they had a hard
time finding because they don't make
them new anymore and they did have to go
track down donor stuff. This is an
interesting conversation. So, Tim Tim
uh, whatever his name is, Tim TME in
float plane chat says, "But a sports
bike at your age with the family you
got, is it really worth introducing
splash possibility?" Um, you know, it's
it's a that's a fascinating conversation
cuz like at what point, you know, is a
motorcycle
more or less of like a like a you know,
bad? Like is it like is it that my age
is too old?
>> Cuz if anything, I feel like the younger
you are, the more life you have ahead of
you. I actually see it the opposite way
of
>> Are they saying because you have uh
people responsibilities now and you
don't have people responsibilities when
you're younger? Is the age really the
unimportant part and the family is the
important part?
>> I see. Yeah, I could I could see that.
But I mean, you know,
>> are they using age to describe life
stage?
>> Possibly. Okay. Okay. I interpreted it
the other way as like like at your age
um like
>> when with the way that they had worded
it I originally interpreted that they
were trying to say like reflexes are
slower and stuff and then they went a
different direction which is why I'm I'm
assuming it's more the like whole family
and stuff.
>> Oh that's interesting. Um
Gilmore asks is there a point in your
life where your life insurance is worth
more than you? Um, I actually have no
idea what kind of a policy Ivonne has
out on me. Maybe we'll find out someday.
[laughter]
>> Oh god.
>> Uh, and he says, "No, no, no, no. Like
family and all." Yeah. I mean, [sighs]
I get it, but like from my point of
view, it's um
like man, everything's a risk. Like
every time I take the kids up skiing,
like I'm freaking out a little bit,
right? Cuz like, yeah, I could break my
neck. They could break their neck. Um,
like there's so many things that we do
in life that you could do wrong enough
that you die. And um, mo motorcycle
riding is absolutely one of them. But I
a life without some amount of risk is
not much of a life.
>> Yeah. I I Well, I No, it can be.
>> And everyone has to have Well, I don't
know if I agree with that. With with no
risk.
>> You can never get in a car. You can
never get in anything.
>> It's a spectrum. Everyone has their
comfort zone. And and I'm not I'm not
about to, you know, pass judgement on
>> people should go out and ride
motorcycles right now, but like there's
everyone has their own lines and you
should just
>> We say the same thing about freaking
everything all the time on W show. It I
feel like we're not getting the message
across [laughter]
like in any of the categories.
>> Nuance on my W show. [laughter]
>> Get out of here.
Get out.
>> We had a food in the pre-show. We're
talking about it with this now. Like you
you got to find your line and just stick
to it. I don't know.
>> Yeahve. For some people it's a racing
line.
>> For other people it's a cocaine line,
you know. I don't [laughter]
>> Yeah. Like very clean in regards to some
people it's a mower line and stuff. Like
I It's all good, you know? Like
>> Yeah. You do what works for you.
>> I like I like Curious Bread's thing
here. I don't know what the origin of
this is. I've heard it before though.
Don't be too focused on trying to add
years to your life. Figure out how to
add life to your years. Like I um
someone else posted, "If I died
snowboarding, I would die happy." I
mean, the the the end moments there
might not be that happy suck.
>> Yeah, snowboard accidents can be pretty
can be pretty messy. Same.
>> Do you see the dude who is right off the
chairlift, but like suffocating under
the snow? Have you seen this video?
There's a guy like genuinely like right
off like they they get off the chairlift
and start sliding forward and someone
sees a board kind of poking out of deep
powder just like slightly off where
basically the offramp is and he goes up
and he's like, "Are you good?" And then
figures out the guy's like fully buried
under the snow and has to dig him out
and pull him up and the guy's like
barely able to breathe at first.
>> Wow.
>> Crazy. Um there are there are risks to
lots of things. Um, that being said,
I've gone snowboarding a ton. I've gone
off trail, which you're not supposed to
do, but it was a freaking blast. Um, I
wouldn't go off trail right now,
but I was comfortable with it and I
think it was an actually okay decision
when I did.
>> Yeah.
>> Um,
>> and like I don't know, we always we
always set the we always set, you know,
what's not okay as one step beyond
whatever we're personally comfortable
with. Like I have to admit I've had the
exact same judgy thoughts about that uh
that cave diver or no not cave diver.
The spelunker who like went through
devil's something. Yeah, that guy. And
like three people almost died trying to
bring him back out and he was in there
for like half a day before finally his
like heart gave out or something like
that. And he had like
>> this one.
>> Yeah, that one.
>> Um 27 hours. That's the one. Um, anyway,
if you if you have a weak stomach, don't
read about it because it's it's
horrifying. And yeah, he left a family
behind. And I'm I'm looking at that
going like,
yeah, that just seems like the kind of
thing that if you have people who depend
on you, you probably shouldn't do. But,
>> but everyone has their line. What is it?
Alex Hornold or something? Um,
>> is that the free climber guy? Yeah,
>> Alex Hnold.
>> I I watched that guy do Taipei 101,
which from my understanding was like
>> basically whatever for him, like not
even hard.
>> Yeah.
>> And I just like I almost wanted to throw
up
>> watching him standing on the top of
Taipei 101,
>> no ropes, no supports, no nothing.
>> He's I'm pretty sure he's a wife and I
think he has kids.
Um
>> yeah.
>> Yep. He has two two kids. So, everyone
has their line.
>> Yeah. Ryaw brings up a good point. He's
like motorcycles are an interesting
topic for this type of a discussion
because they're going to be close to the
line for most people either on one side
or on the other side. Yeah.
>> Um, you know, the big thing for me on
the motorbike is that if there
mistake, the consequences are much worse
than in a car.
However, the increased buffer space that
I can maintain on a bike and the
increased situal awareness
and increased visibility that I have
>> in my opinion with my skills as a
defensive rider. And I don't not sure if
everyone's familiar with that term, but
basically it's like being a very aware
motor vehicle operator. It's like the
opposite of being like an aggressive
driver or rider. Basically, what it
means is you are constantly looking for
how do I create the most buffer space
possible around myself. Um, on a
motorcycle, I find that easier.
>> I' I very often try to and I I've had
some actually really fun scenarios with
this in the past where you can tell that
they figured it out and they they want
to do it as well. But I'll often try to
be like a I'll try to like adopt a
biker.
Like I'll create a big buffer between
the biker and I and when we come up to
stop lights, I'll stop pretty far back
and then just make sure they always have
a ton of space. So if something bad
happens in front, they can fall back
really easily. Uh just try to make it
easier. One thing that I found really
interesting was when we try to do that
thing around Taiwan, the original plan
was scooters.
got like no push back from most people
about the scooter itself.
>> You'd have gotten push back from me.
[laughter]
>> I've ridden on a scooter in Taiwan.
I would not want to again. And I'm and
I'm a motorcyclist. Like I
>> Taipei itself is nuts.
>> Yeah.
>> It gets a lot better.
>> Uh-huh.
>> Like way better.
>> Okay.
>> But Taipei itself is is nuts. Yeah.
>> But it it was interesting to me. There
was people who suggested against it
because of a variety of different
reasons, but I've had people in my life
that are like never get on a motorcycle
ever that were like, uh, well, make sure
you're aware of these things. And I was
like, uh-huh.
>> What's the difference?
>> It was very interesting to me. I don't
know.
>> Because in my mind, most
>> the risk is the people around you,
right? Yes.
>> Yeah. So, it shouldn't matter. I'm still
fully out in the open.
>> Yeah. You have no cage.
>> Yeah. So I I found that
>> why is a scooter okay?
>> I'm not sure.
>> I think there's something
like the word motorcycle people are like
oh those are scary
>> but scooter is just such a friendly word
so it's just okay
>> maybe
>> that is
>> I mean it was it was an interesting part
of the whole thing was as I was like
telling people what I was going to do
seeing their reactions to it.
>> What what was what was your mom's
reaction?
Uh, I think I just told her I was going
around Taiwan. It'll it'll [laughter]
>> Okay.
>> Although my mom is a very pro
live life to the fullest,
>> right,
>> type of person. So, I think she would
have heard the idea and been like,
"That's pretty cool to be honest."
>> Mhm.
Which is why you didn't tell her.
[laughter]
>> [gasps]
>> Well, I don't think we even necessarily
knew like what we didn't really know
what the plan was until
very very close up to it.
>> It's interesting. So, Bookhorse
justifies this saying scooters are
typically slower and not having to
manage the clutch does make it easier,
but like
I don't know, maybe it's just cuz I've
been like I learned to drive on a on a
standard transmission, but to me the
clutch does not significantly
increase the the the mental load of
riding a motorcycle. Um,
but maybe I uh But there's so much
wobblier, says Bacon. Yeah, I've
actually I've only ridden as a Have I
ever driven a scooter? I think I only
rode as a passenger. Dennis was driving
me, which probably didn't help,
>> dude. When Dennis drove me, it was wild.
>> The weight distribution is just
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah.
>> Oh, it was horrible.
>> Yeah.
>> I felt way more secure to drive myself
around. And that is not Dennis's fault
at all. I [laughter] just I had to sit
on the back. Like it just didn't it
didn't make sense.
>> Yeah. Danvibbe says, "A clutch also
gives you more control." Yeah. Which is
which is so true. Like being able to
manually control my gears. Um and maybe
this is I don't know. Maybe this is like
a like a hubris thing. Like maybe I I
just think it does. But I've always felt
like manual control over my gears gives
me way more control. Whether we're
talking like driving in snow in a car or
whether we're talking about a
motorcycle, I I love manual gear
shifting.
>> I think it makes sense. Part of the
reason why I think it makes sense is
because uh it keeps your focus on the
act of driving more.
>> I could see
>> and like what's happening with the car
and why. Uh so you're going to pick up
on more things and be more in tune with
it. Makes sense to me. Even as someone
who doesn't do that and can't do that, I
think I understand the idea. It's like a
lot of manual processes. Yeah, I don't I
I enjoy it. How did we get on
motorcycles from 4 gig GPUs? It doesn't
matter. Let's move on. Do you want to
pick something?
>> The fan replacement, spending too too
much of a percentage on something to
replace, repair it, whatever.
>> Do people like this about this show?
[laughter]
>> Never.
>> Is this the appeal or is this the worst
part?
>> Yes, they like it. [laughter] This is
the best part.
>> Okay,
>> this is why I don't redirect you back on
topic. [laughter]
Uh, I'm I'm picking something up there.
We can't even read chat anymore. It's
going so fast.
>> Uh, Blake Ma Maverick says, "My ADD
does." Speaking of, um,
>> I asked for I asked for a goodie bag
from my doctor. Uh, so I'm actually
going to try out some short acting, uh,
ADHD medications over the next little
bit. Yeah. I It was actually a
surprisingly simple conversation. So,
uh, back when Ivonne was working at the
pharmacy, I was I've always been very
curious if it would help me focus better
in sports because, um, my my ADHD homies
out there are going to be able to relate
to this. Okay. [clears throat]
When he serves, play a net shot. When he
serves, play net shot. When he serves,
play net shot. He serves, lift. You
know, like it's just you can't like I
can't I can't retain a plan in my brain.
um when when I need that kind of focus.
And so I've I've always been kind of
curious like,
you know, if I just was on Rolin or
something like I was when I was a kid,
could [laughter] I could I play the net
shot? And so back when Ivonne was
working at the pharmacy, I was like,
"Hey, like you have pockets in the front
of your, you know, your your uh not not
robe, not apron, it's a lab coat. You
know, you got pockets. like what if a
couple what if a couple aderalls fell in
it or you know whatever, right? Um and
she she's like the straightest arrow.
She she
>> Yeah, it's never going to happen.
>> Oh, dude. Dude, she was like, "That's
actually a class whatever schedule,
whatever thing. So, if a pill goes
missing, blah blah blah." I'm like, "Do
pills go missing?" She's like, "Well,
yeah, pills go missing all the time."
And I'm like, "Okay, so then what
difference is it you if you're the one
who took it versus obviously someone
else took one at some point?" And she's
like, "Well, it's a class, whatever,
schedule, whatever." Okay, forget it.
So, she she would never smuggle me
anything. Um,
and she was always like, "Okay, yeah,
just talk to your doctor." I'm like,
"Oh, it's such a hassle. I'm probably
going to have to go see a shrink again
and blah blah blah blah blah." So, it
turns out that I was chatting with my
doctor about this, and this is not the
same one that gave me dog medications,
in case you're wondering. Um, real
doctor. And, [laughter] uh, I don't
know. Basically, I was just like,
>> it would have been funnier if it was.
>> It was a It was a phone consult.
[laughter]
>> I forget what What was that? Was that
the uh I think that was the treatment
for the bites on my arm. Yeah, that's
right. That was antibiotics. Did I ever
actually like say that? Uh-huh.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Oh, I Well,
>> I can't remember.
>> I don't know. You did to me.
>> The the the point is um I So, it was
like just a phone consult. And I was
like, "Hey, so this might be like a
weird request, but am I allowed to just
have like a like a like I literally
called it a goodie bag. Am I allowed to
have like a goodie bag of different ADHD
medications?" And she's like, "Explain."
And I'm like, "Well, okay, let me
explain. Like I was diagnosed as a kid
and I was on I was on rolin and uh my
parents to their credit after forcing me
to go on rolin. When I explained I would
really like to not do this anymore
because it completely changed my
personality. They were like okay. And
you know after a short experiment we
were off it. I got a really good report
card that term and then went back to my
usual shenanigans. Um anyway the point
is um yeah I had ADHD I have ADHD. I was
diagnosed as a kid, but like not like
every kid in the '90s was like like I
had it and um I want to use it for
sports and [laughter] and she's like, "I
[snorts] mean, is this a
performance-enhancing drug?" And I'm
like, "Well, I I'm not I'm not competing
for money. I don't think it matters."
>> Um
>> and she's like, "Okay, well, guess what?
There's all kinds of there's all kinds
of modern, you know, pills and they have
some that are like very short acting.
Like you can get ones that are only good
for like 3 to four hours." And I'm like,
"Oh, okay. So, this is basically just
like a like I can just pop like a focus
pill." She's like, "Yeah, pretty much."
And I'm like, "Okay, well, I'm going to
I'm going to give it a shot." She's
like, "Okay, so I'll give you like five
of each and uh feel free to let me know
if it works for you." I couldn't believe
how easy it was to give you to prove
your previous diagnosis or anything.
>> No, I mean, I have a pretty good
relationship with my doctor and like I
don't ask her for controlled substances
very often. [laughter]
So, I know this is a thing.
>> That's cuz if I'm going to do that, I go
to my vet. [snorts]
[laughter]
[gasps]
>> Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. I I just
love that like instantly when you said
that someone in chat, let me go see if I
can find it. [laughter] Oh, it was so
funny.
Oh, no. Oh, yeah. There it is. Wy draft
just in all capital. There's a few
people that are like, "Oh, and blah blah
blah blah blah." And Wy draft is just
all capital letters. Warn the staff. And
then a little bit goes behind. He just
says combat pay. [laughter]
>> That's funny.
>> I mean, he's probably gonna chill out.
He'll probably be sleepy at work or a
little more more chill. Isn't that
normally how it goes?
>> I don't know.
>> If he actually has ADHD, he's just going
to be like, "Yeah, I can get my work
done. This is this is fine."
>> Mr. Blonde says, "Presumably, your
doctor should have access to your
medical records." So,
>> you'd be surprised. [laughter] actually
very complicated and further complicated
by the fact that my parents split up and
couldn't agree what my name was.
>> So, um
>> I don't feel like I remember this.
>> I don't think I've ever talked to you
about this.
>> Okay.
>> I did not go by Lionus Sebastian for the
first decade of my life.
>> What's your other name?
>> Laura.
>> I'm going to keep IT A SECRET.
>> WHAT? NO.
>> Um
>> and it makes me want to break things.
[laughter]
shaking.
>> Not you. No, not him.
>> My legal name object.
>> My legal name has has always been Lina
Sebastian. So, for what it's worth, you
know, my lore accurate real name, but
everyone from my school.
>> I am so bothered. [laughter]
>> Okay. Sorry.
>> I like Ana Hikash's answer. Lionus
milkman Sebastian. [laughter]
>> Oh man.
>> Um, so, uh, where where was I going?
Yeah, every everyone from my school to
my doctors to
like random courses that I signed up for
to an entire side of my family knew me
by a different last name.
>> Last name?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Oh, no. Like Lionus has always been
Everyone agreed on Lionus. I thought it
was first name. Last name is like
>> less.
>> And we all agreed on middle name. We all
agreed on middle name.
>> Okay. So, it's not milkman.
>> No. No. Yeah. No.
>> Last last name is is interesting, but uh
I thought it was first name and I was
like, what the hell?
[snorts]
>> Okay. All right.
Um
yeah, speaking of how the heck did we
get here? Um, so you have it. Are you
gonna try it?
>> Uh, I don't have it yet.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Yeah, I'll get it soon.
>> Gotcha.
>> Um,
>> are you doing that like crazy I don't
know if you want to talk about this, but
I think it's nuts. Are you doing that
thing where you get pills shipped to
your house now?
>> No.
>> It's wild to me that that's a thing.
>> It's wild to me that it hasn't been a
thing.
>> Both are kind of crazy
>> and that it's suddenly a thing. Yeah.
But it just seemed like everything was
so controlled needing to go throughies
and blah blah blah blah blah blah and
now they just like ship it around and
like the people shipping it.
I just feel like there's such a huge
opportunity for like
drug theft issues and stuff, but it just
seems to have never come up.
>> Is that a is that in Canada? I would
never ever want
>> It's in pills shipped at my house.
>> It is absolutely in Canada.
>> And who who talks to you about them?
Like are are people on medication?
>> It's an online pharmacy. Yeah. You just
get like basically routine like
subscription deliveries of like in some
cases some pretty serious drugs.
>> That's uh crazy.
>> It's wild. Yeah. Someone's saying common
in the USA. I I think it started down
there. Um
but yeah uh there are actually
>> a variety of them in Canada. I think
>> uhies I go to will deliver drugs to your
house now. But the pharmacy does not
like some
>> Well, this is an online pharmacy.
>> Okay. So, like a like a work home of
type of thing,
>> I guess. Maybe.
>> I don't know. It feels
>> I get my testosterone shipped to my door
from the pharmacy. I just have to show
my ID. Yeah. I mean, maybe there's
different levels. Um, the one person
that I know that gets it done uh doesn't
have to show ID, but maybe maybe there's
different maybe it depends on what
you're getting.
>> This is wild. I just I just Googled my
dad's name because the he was a milkman
at one point and
>> um so that's that's why I was like well
actually about you [laughter] know
milkman thing
>> and uh if I Google my dad's name he
actually does yield an AI response as a
person who is notable for some reason
that is enough for him to come up in an
AI summary and um
It turns out that um the thing that AI
knows him best for is as a Canadian
prolific sperm donor. [laughter]
[laughter and gasps]
So he's known for in part you
>> in a way.
>> No, I'm the one uh uh I was still
>> what's it called? um
legitimate offspring.
>> Yeah, you got addicted to it.
>> That's a form of sperm donation.
>> Well, um yeah. So, I mean I don't I
don't know if I've ever like mentioned
this on the WAN show, but I have
potentially hundreds of half siblings.
So, if you've ever like seen someone on
the street and gone like, "Wow, they
look an awful lot like Linus."
>> Maybe
>> nice. Was it during a certain period of
time? Like, would they all be a similar
age?
>> I believe so. Yeah.
>> Nice.
>> Uh, no. I think they'd all be a little
older than me.
>> A little older.
>> Yeah. My mom like was not into that.
>> So, those memes you see on Reddit every
once in a while of like, "Wow, it's a
Lionus."
>> Yeah,
>> maybe.
>> Possibly. Like,
>> yeah,
>> th this guy. Um,
>> here we go. Like, this guy could
actually be my sibling. Same with this
guy.
>> What? Same with this guy. Like these
three people could all legitimately be
siblings of mine.
>> Yeah, [laughter]
[laughter]
it is. Exen, I'm just messing with you
guys.
>> No, I got Yeah, I was like, is he really
trying to [laughter]
get that across?
Why did Why did I take this picture and
this picture? [laughter]
What was I thinking?
>> I mean, there's a lot of pictures of you
that are that are questionable.
[laughter]
Like, do I want to look like a villain?
I
Why do I just Why do I take pictures of
myself at all?
>> That one's just great. That one doesn't
bother me at all. Whatever.
>> What's this say? What's What does this
say again? Probably some sassy.
>> No. Uh,
walking something waiting to happen. Oh,
walking restraining order waiting to
happen. That's what that one said.
>> Yep. Makes sense. Yeah.
>> Warehouse one. The jean store really had
some banger t-shirts back in the day.
>> I think that's where I used to get my
shirts.
>> The one that I wore out to the point of
just like it being blessed by the pope
so full of holes. It was uh was tacked
is for people not witty enough to be
sarcastic. Um, I was I was that kind of
teenager. I'm not gonna I'm not going to
deny it. There's no point denying it.
There's literally people in float plane
chat that apparently went to high school
with me. So, there's there's no point in
pretending that I wasn't a bit of a
sassy little sometimes.
>> I had this shirt that had a picture on
the front of it of two dogs like
swimming underwater and the one dog in
the front was like farting so there was
bubbles and the text under it said like
follow the bubbles or something. I don't
remember what the text was, but it was
something like that. I used to love that
shirt. It was a long sleeve shirt. I
wore it all the time. And there's one
time [laughter] we were going for family
photos and I guess none of my neither of
my parents checked what shirt I was
wearing. [laughter] I was wearing the
like dog farting underwater shirt
and we showed up to the shoot [laughter]
and everybody was this was like we went
to some like beautiful like wedding
venue farm thing and my my grandpa was
getting like this massive like framed
photo of this. It was getting photo
edited and stuff. It was like really
this whole fancy thing. Uh and my
parents made me turn it around. So, in
the photo, I'm wearing a backwards
shirt, [laughter]
but it also had a tiny version of the
picture right here on the back. So,
there's still It's [laughter] like the
fanciest family photo we've ever had as
me with this shirt. [laughter]
Oh, man. [laughter]
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I got a lot of
stuff from that store, too. [laughter]
>> [gasps]
>> H good times.
>> Um,
[laughter]
next topic. I got one.
>> Yeah,
>> I don't know how we transition out of
that, but uh, yeah, Gogg released a
statement that they've hired a
specialist to actively explore the best
ways to approach Linux support for Gogg
Galaxy, which is awesome. GOG Galaxy,
for those that don't know, it's a
desktop app allowing users to sync all
their games from all launchers as well
as friends to have one location to
manage everything uh for your gaming
needs. Some things left out from their
post are things like timeline because I
mean the specialist is exploring the
best way to do it. So, they're
definitely not going to have a timeline
yet. How it will work, it also makes
sense. How compatibility will work with
things like uh protons. I suspect it
will run Proton, but we'll see. Uh, only
time will tell. We'll see what happens.
But that is that is exciting.
>> Very exciting. It's actually it's, you
know, for how just generally based CD
Project generally happens to be, it sort
of surprises me that this wasn't a
thing. But then also, if you think about
it, so many of these old titles in the
before four times wouldn't have been
compatible with Linux anyway. And also,
you know, it was a very small like
that's just the reality of it. It's a
very small customer base that you're
catering to. Many of whom like proudly,
you know, don't play games and that's
why Linux is totally okay for me. Like
you're in terms of your your selection
bias.
>> I see what you mean.
>> Um you're you're not doing yourself any
favors as a as a gaming forward platform
by targeting Linux traditionally. But
it's changing. It's changing so fast. I
am still running Steam OS on my main
machine upstairs
and I still
don't care at all. With that said, I've
been gaming very little lately. I've
been I've been busy doing other Oh, yes.
Hi.
>> You activated my trap card.
>> I have also gamed a little a little bit
lately. Uh and speaking of Admiral, I'm
going to talk about some remastered
games for a second. Okay. It is a
satisfy.
I promise it won't be way too long. I
promise won't be way too long.
>> Setting a timer. The reason why No, no,
no, no, no, no, no. I'm setting a timer.
Okay. You have
>> You have
How long should I give him? You have
three minutes.
>> Three minutes.
>> You have three minutes to talk about
five at least. Well, cuz I'm also
talking about Halo.
>> You've got four.
>> Okay. Go.
>> Okay. Uh, I played a little bit of
Assassin's Creed Black Flag recently.
Wonderful remake. I when I first jumped
in, I I had the reaction of like, oh,
the graphics are okay, but they're not
that great. And I have now improved my
opinion on them where, especially after
seeing the Halo remake, I think the
graphics are way better.
>> Because something that the graphics did
was they made me think
>> this is Black Flag. This is what Black
Flag looked like. Right.
>> And then you go back and look at Black
Flag footage and you're like, "Oh god,
no. This is way better."
>> Matching the nostalgia filter is
actually pretty challenging
>> to the point where I'm stunned how well
they did it. It's not like perfect. This
is a video game from 2026, Blackmith,
Wukong, whatever. But it it perfectly
matches my nostalgia glasses in a way
that is just fantastic. Then you look at
Halo,
not the same thing at all. They
completely wrecked the aesthetic. It it
does not look I haven't even played it.
I've looked at a bunch of videos of it.
Wow. It looks some of the comments under
very wrong. I did I did also read the
com, but I did watch the videos. It
looks very wrong. And I think this is
interesting uh because if you look at
the Steam current players, I checked
this uh Okay, so 23,000 for the 24-hour
peak, 17ish. Now, I checked this a
little while ago. Fairly similar
numbers. Um if I look,
>> it's been very flat, very consistent.
>> Yeah. And um You know, that's just total
Steam users at the top. Never mind.
>> It's been around. It's been out for a
while now. 19 days ago, peak of 100,000.
>> Mhm.
>> Like, it's this isn't
>> a a completely brand new game anymore. A
lot of people will have played it and
then already fallen off,
>> right?
>> Then I look at Halo Campaign Evolved.
>> Is that out now?
>> I didn't even realize it was out.
>> Yeah.
>> When did it come out? Did it come out
this week?
>> It came out very recently. Alltime peak
was three days ago.
and it is getting mogged.
If you think about the launch of Halo,
the original Halo, and you compare that
to the launch of Assassin's Creed Black
Flag, like Black Flag was an incredible
game.
>> Yeah,
>> but you can't look at me with a straight
face as someone who freaking loves Black
Flag and tell me that Black Flag had
more hype around it than Halo.
>> Oh, heavens no.
>> You can't tell me that there's more
Assassin's Creed fans than there is Halo
fans. I mean, I will say though, was
Assassin's Creed Black Flag the one that
was hype enough that we did like a
dedicated performance video on it?
>> I think so, but that was largely because
I was trying to push it super hard. It
was very hype though. People did really
like Assassin's Creed Black Flag. It was
generally seen as a very positive game.
It was a little bit conflicting cuz it's
it stepped away quite far from the
actual being an assassin side of things
>> and you were more of a pirate and you
sailed the ship and did things like
that. Um
Oh, yeah. Assassin's Creed. Wait, no,
>> we didn't. I thought we did.
>> AC4. Is it AC4?
>> Yeah. Yeah, it is.
>> Okay. It was a different video. I was
thinking of I was thinking of uh Yes.
Here we go. So, we apparently did two
videos on Assassin's Creed.
>> Hell yeah.
>> See, you can see AC fanboy. I'm wearing
the shirt from it.
>> Literally an influencer.
>> Uh no one cared. So, that's cool.
>> Hell yeah. Um, but the one that I was
actually thinking of was this one where
we did nextG console versus PC and we
used Battlefield 4 video that's autoplay
game
>> and we used u Assassin's Creed 4 and uh
Battlefield 4 as our um as our image
quality comparisons. So this this was
actually a pretty fun video. It was a
lot of man this was so much work.
>> A lot of work. Um, I think this was the
last video that I had a hand in editing.
>> Because I had to catch a plane the next
day and um some of the some of So, you
see how these these crappy uh text
insert things are the same ones that we
use on the WAN show. Same font, same
drop shadow, same everything. It's
because we didn't get all of the
finalized.
Um, yeah, we're out of time. So, this is
it. This is time. Okay. Well, we won't
talk about that anymore.
>> What?
>> I I don't make the rules.
>> That was you, though.
>> That's the rules. I don't make the
rules.
>> You said the limit was for me talking
about it, was it not?
>> Oh, that's true, actually.
>> You were talking about it.
>> All right, fine. So, um, I didn't finish
all the screen cap for this until like
really late and everyone had gone home
already. And in order for us to get that
day's upload done, given that I was
gonna like be on the plane to the middle
of butt nowhere somewhere the next day
or something like that, I had to I had
to have one of the editors just like
throw everything on the timeline for me
and then I had to go and I had to put
all of the screen cap in and then I had
to like figure out how to export it. Um,
>> wait, I thought this was a me video.
>> No, this was me.
>> Huh.
Yeah,
look at that guy.
>> No, I know you're hosting it
>> wearing the old uh
>> Yeah, see there I am.
>> Yep.
>> I thought I was doing the capture.
>> You did a bunch of the setup, but it
wasn't done.
>> And there were like reasons that it like
couldn't be finished and I had to I had
to do it.
>> Got it.
>> The last one that I edited fully, fun
fact, uh Corsair Stamp.
This is great. Wy, look at this. What?
>> Remember when Corsair changed their logo
to that stamp thing?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> How long did that last?
>> Um
I don't actually remember.
>> It can't have been very long.
>> Yeah, this this is the this is the last
video that I fully edited.
>> Not this. Get out of here.
>> And I remember when we used to do like
this is how you uh make brushed aluminum
and stuff. I don't think people watched
they watched this.
>> I don't think people watched the like
fake brush aluminum.
>> This was pretty topical.
>> Yes, it was. This was very topical.
>> Yeah.
>> Just in case I need it for later. A
Scooby snack.
>> And I don't know. This is the kind of
thing I feel like I couldn't get away
with anymore where I'm just like, "Oh, I
know what to do. I need a Corsair logo.
I'm just going to
um destroy the front of this case.
>> Oh my god. [laughter]
Oh my god.
>> More of that, please.
>> Oh my god. [laughter]
>> Please.
>> I remember this now cuz I remember that
case.
>> Oh my god.
>> But oh my god.
>> Can we do that more, please?
>> I don't think we need to do that more. I
don't think people want to see it
anymore. I don't uh like there. It was a
It was a It's one of those things I
hate. It's such a like
>> product of his time.
>> Old meme. Yeah. But like it was a
different time, right?
>> That's fascinating.
>> Yeah, I know, right? [laughter]
>> I What I I remember how to make plastic
look like brushed aluminum.
>> How do I make a whole 5 minutee video
about that? I don't know. I still don't
know, Luke. And we actually had um two
sponsor spots on it. It's a 5 minute
8-second video with two sponsor spots on
it.
>> Hey, this was actually not too bad.
>> Glossy to brush plastic DIY experiment
addressing functionality and appearance.
What? What a
>> anti-clickbait title [laughter] titled
Steve named that? [snorts]
>> Oh my god. And then you can
>> gravy. see the like different
I mean the thumbnail actually does a
pretty good job of explaining what we're
going to do.
>> Yeah, kind of.
Eliminating glossy plastic for good.
Maybe it's just hard for me to read it
from here.
>> Oh, no. I mean the like Yeah, probably
cuz I mean the text that's under that on
the individual surfaces.
>> Oh yeah.
>> 3M heavy, 3M final, 3M contour surface
stripping.
>> 3M
>> steel wool grade zero steel wool grade
three and sandpaper.
>> Oh my goodness. All right. Did it work?
I don't remember. You're using like a
router or something, I think. Right.
This was 11 years ago. That's crazy.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, for like that many views
11 years ago,
>> no, it's not great.
>> Really? I don't think so. Can we do a
lot of the videos that came with that?
>> Cuz the Cuz the the the evergreen stuff
that did well. If anything, it like
accumulates views.
>> I guess this probably could have been
evergreen, but the the war against
glossy plastic kind of ended.
>> Did it?
>> I feel like it kind of did. Is glossy
plastic still like a thing?
>> I don't feel like people hate it as much
as they used to.
>> I'm trying to think if it's even
>> in this era. It was like every single
review of any product that had glossy
plastic in it on YouTube, people would
call it out. Like it was it was a huge
deal back then.
>> I think that's really true. Yeah. Yeah.
It's not a huge deal anymore. Yeah.
>> Yeah. We don't really We don't really
talk about it anymore. It's definitely
it's it's definitely still a thing.
>> But maybe we just avoid it. It
>> doesn't look that bad. It doesn't look
great.
I mean, it looks better than glossy
plastic, which was which was the
objective.
>> That's pretty much the goal. That's a
really long shot.
>> My god. [laughter]
>> You know what though? I actually prefer
a long shot if you're talking about
something compared to ripping it away
from me before I'm I I often talk to our
very Gen Z editors in my like Frame.io
notes. They'll be like, "Hey, leave this
here for literally twice as long."
Because two things. Number one, I'm
still talking about it. So, you're like
you're like ripping away the thing that
that my eyes want to be looking at while
I listen to what's going on with it. And
B, uh, a lot of people watch at 1 and a
half to 2x speed. And it's at that
speed, it's literally like not even on
screen for long enough to even process
what you're looking at. So, we really
need to put this on for longer. Um, but
I I feel like that's part of that is
just like, okay, grandpa, uh, who needs
longer to, you know, process what's on
the screen. The other thing is like
second screen, I like giving people a
chance to, okay, we're talking about
this thing, like have it still be there
when we look at it, but it's just, you
can just tell like their mindset about
it is totally different. They're just
like, well, we've seen it now, move on.
Like,
hold on, [laughter] hold on a second.
Hold on.
[snorts]
Um maybe get your editor some ADHD meds.
No, I mean we I do feel that as a
company we're probably over represented
for certain certain neuro
>> divergent
what
[laughter]
I think uh I think somebody once said to
me before that if you uh were to forget
your medication when you got to work
like we have all of them. [laughter]
>> I don't want to hear that.
[clears throat] that no exchange of
medication ever happens on these
premises. Oh, no. We just It's the same
one.
Not what I meant, Daniel.
[laughter]
Oh boy. Anywh who, what are we supposed
to be doing? Uh, yes. CW announcement.
Oh. Oh, yes. Where's mine?
Look, do you want to grab the page
>> while we talk about CW announcements?
>> Sorry, I was checking actually fairly
important message, but it is it is all
good.
>> Do that when there's not dead air.
>> Yeah, sorry. I didn't realize there was
dead air for a second. Uh, okay.
>> There we go. Now you can go back to
ignoring us. Oh yeah,
>> that's sick.
>> Oh, wait. I Oh, I looked I'm looking at
the wrong thing. Uh, but here it is.
Yes, this week we're introducing another
Denisen of the land of Siberia,
the percussive maintenance technician.
The artwork is packed with fun little
details from the Siberia employee badge
to the USBs hanging off of our
technician. It's another look into the
growing lore of Siberia. You guys might
remember we did the map of Siberia
deskpad and oh man, I came up with
another really fun one. I have to send
this to Lisa. I want to add Light Peak
to the to the Siberia lore.
>> Um and it would be a mountain, but you
remember Light Peak, right?
>> Yeah, I think so.
>> It was the code name for Thunderbolt
during development.
>> So, yeah, I want to add Light Peak.
Anyway, the point is, um,
this is alongside our cleanup wizard and
alongside our map of Siberia. We're just
kind of I don't know. Basically, this is
just like a Lisa initiative that um,
grew legs and a big club and uh,
>> wow.
>> And a big shoulder protector. What's up?
>> I guess people liked it.
>> Which one?
>> Uh, I mean large XL, double XL, and
triple XL are all sold out. We might
just be we might just be out of black
blanks.
>> Oh, the blanks.
>> Yeah, it it depends on our stock of
blanks, which we're working on having
more consistent stock.
>> Anyway, available in our classic black
poly blend tee or a limited run tie dye.
Yes, we are still trying to get rid of
these LTX23 tie dyes.
>> When I walked onto the set, Dan was
like, "Oh, there's shirts for you." And
I saw this one. I was like, "We still
have those." [laughter]
>> It's not so much that we still have
them. It's that we have them again. We
found more pallets of them.
>> How?
>> I don't know, Luke.
>> I thought we just did like an audit
thing.
>> I don't know, Luke.
>> Where do we keep finding stuff?
>> Inia. I don't know. [laughter]
>> Wild.
>> Anyway, this is a 100% cotton tie-dye.
Anyway, both have a durable, high
quality print. Built to survive more
abuse than your hardware probably will.
shop the percussive maintenance tech
t-shirt at lmg.ggussivemaintenance.
Um, [clears throat]
>> or if you don't know how to spell and
type all that stuff out, it's a huge
banner when you go to the site. So, you
can just go to ltdttore.com and it's
right there.
>> Yep. And while you're on LTD store, if
you add literally anything to your cart,
like say for example this wonderful
t-shirt that I'm wearing, and you go
ahead and check out, you will see that
when we are live, you can send a
checkout message. Yay, comes.
That's right. When Luke and I stream, we
don't really believe in you throwing
money at your screen and getting nothing
in return. Instead, you should throw
money at your screen. You should get
high quality merchandise in return. And
hey, I mean, since you're throwing money
at your screen and we're streaming,
maybe we will also respond to your
message. So Dan sometimes does little
replies like you can see up at the top
of the screen right now. U sometimes Dan
does I did this out of order. Whatever.
Producer Dan. Okay, we got the wave in.
Nice. Um, and sometimes he curates it.
Okay, Dan, show them what a curated
checkout message looks like. Well, they
can hear it. They can't see it, but hi
Wayne.L. Last week you discussed the
difficulty keeping product interest up.
Do you think this is due to the
historically longer restock times?
>> Uh, I think it is definitely a
significant contributor. It is something
that we're trying to work on. Like it
wasn't that noticeable with the cables
because the demand was so much greater
than the supply. But one of the things
that we did do in order to have our
restock land earlier was after at the
initial launch, we already had raw cable
stock that was pre-produced and ready
for us to to make whatever turned out to
be the most popular sizes.
>> That was really smart. And I had people
reach out pointing out that was really
smart. Like that work in the industry
that deal with products
>> cuz we didn't know what the what the
main cable lengths were going to be. And
especially because we have cable lengths
that are kind of non-standard cable
lengths. So we were going into this
going, okay, well there is no market
data that we can study to know how many
people are going to buy a a a
4 meter cable. We don't know that. Um
and also we had no way of knowing how
people would react to that. Would they
go, "Oh, ew, that's weird. I don't want
that. That's not the right cable size."
Or would they go, "Holy crap, I've
always wanted a cable that is like this
much shorter than my other cable so that
it like perfectly fits. I will buy only
that one." We had no idea which way it
was going to go. So, we had a whole
bunch of cable stock ready to go. And
then we actually air shipped a bunch of
it so that we could kind of have waves
of restocking and alleviate some of the
pressure. Uh we did the same thing with
the socks. We actually have materials
staged already. So the next order the of
socks now that they're they're all like
[sighs] I feel like we're victims of our
own success on these last couple
launches like we have left so much
revenue on the table. But the flip side
of it is that if you go the other way
you end up overstocked and then it's a
disaster. So there it's a balancing act.
So the point is with the socks we do
have material stage. We are going to
bring it in sooner. But yes, you're
absolutely right, Michael, that um our
long restock times
um do, I think, contribute to people
just not being able to rely on, oh, I I
need something. I want something. I'm
just going to go to LT store and they'll
have it in stock. And it's something
that we are we're constantly working on,
but is always weighed against that. We
know that new new product launches tend
to perform really well and help us have
the the revenue and the momentum that we
need in order to keep product
development going. Um,
running a business is hard. I had a
friend in the industry. We were talking
about something completely unrelated and
we ended up on the subject of just like
how's business and they basically made
an offhand remark to me that was like
any direct to consumer brand that makes
it through 2026 can handle anything. Um
the the war stories that we're hearing
right now
>> from everywhere
>> from basically everywhere. Like I was I
was talking to Taran cuz I was basically
we had like our Q2 financial meeting
which you were in um and I was like I
was looking at CW and I'm like okay just
so that I understand you know revenue do
this you know like flattish upish
whatever uh profit do this um can we
just can we talk about this a little bit
and uh he was basically just like yeah
well between you know fuel costs
inflation
having to maintain the multiple
logistics hubs in order to mitigate some
of the tariff. Um
>> the extremely dramatic song and dance
around tariffs.
>> Yep. Um it was like Yeah. It was like a
like a like a well into double digits
hit
>> like a lot of manufacturing.
>> It's tough right now. when when when
America was largely targeting China with
tariffs, a lot of manufacturing that you
know believed the stated tariffs would
stay around for more than two weeks um
genuinely tried to like pick up shop and
move to other countries. That has
extreme cost to it. It also has extreme
cost to it when you get 25% of the way
through that operation
>> uh and then cancel it and go back to
trying to operate in China. um and in
some cases try to rehire all the people
that you just dropped off or whatever
else. And those costs get passed on to
the people that are trying to sell the
goods that are being made at the
factories.
>> To be clear, not all of it. We've
clearly, you know, based on the
conversation that we were having during
our Q2 discussion, we've absorbed a lot
of it. We, you know, we want
>> No, no. I was saying the costs go to
you.
>> Oh, yeah. Well, they also go to the
consumer
>> in some cases.
>> It's both. It's both. I mean the
difference in the in the price of our
cases probably
>> on the global site versus the US site. I
feel like
we kind of we kind of dodge a bullet on
it. I mean, me bringing it up is just
going to like bring it up now, but I
feel like a lot of um a lot of the a lot
of Americans have a very sort of America
central sort of worldview and um you
know as as being America's hat all these
years um we are acutely aware of things
like exchange rates and things like you
know the the challenges of international
travel whereas like I frequently
encounter Americans who are just like,
"Well, yeah, everything is priced in US
dollars and I don't need a passport to
go anywhere that I would want to go."
And I'm like, "Well, okay." Uh, like the
the percentage of Canadians who hold a
passport compared to Americans is like
wildly higher because so so much of, you
know, like vacation destinations or
whatever else, like you want to go
somewhere hot, you sure as heck aren't
going anywhere in Canada. Um, with the
exception of, you know, the summer
certain places. Uh anyway, the point is
just that um you know, as a as a as a
Canadian or an Australian or you know,
anywhere that doesn't just get to shop
in their own currency all the time, you
tend to be acutely aware of exchange
rates. So when I go on to a store, like
I'm just I'm automatically like, oh,
like what is that in my currency? What
is that in US dollars? What is that? I'm
kind of doing the conversions. Whereas
we haven't really taken a ton of flak
for the fact that our socks are way
cheaper on the global site compared to
the US site. Uh even though it's 33
something I think versus like 30. Um but
that's Canadian.
>> It's $33.99 versus $29.99.
>> Yeah. So that's $29.99.
So times like 1.38 or 1.4 right now or
something like that. So, it's actually
like $40 Canadian dollars on the US
site, but most Americans won't do that
conversion. So,
yeah. 42. That's a yikes. Is the CAD
that bad right now?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Oh, man.
1.4.
Look at her go. [laughter]
Yeah. [laughter]
Hey, I mean, whatever. You didn't eat
any red bell peppers, did you? Do they
Do they grow red bell peppers in
America?
What are you looking at?
>> Uh, just sadness. Um, anyways,
[laughter] um,
>> another comp.
>> Oh, Mexico apparently. Apparently, it's
a big uh Oh, yeah. Yeah. United States
shows up on there in the in the AI
summary. Yeah, sure. Hit me with another
com. Hello. DLL. Hope your week has been
wonderful. I bought a flipper zero in
Canada. Whatever happened with the
legislation around them? Any cool
projects to recommend? Love from
Saskatoon.
>> Oh, that's a really good question. I uh
I
never heard or thought about it ever
again.
>> The Flip Zero?
>> No, the legislation around potentially
banning them.
>> I never heard about that either. And
they still seem for sale. So, so
apparently nothing really happened. As
for cool projects to recommend, uh, do
you mean with the flipper zero or do you
just mean like random cool projects?
Because, uh, I built one of these.
>> Oh, he's not going to have any. So, keep
going. Cool. I built one of these on my
vacation and it was pretty cool. I am
still trying to figure out how to Well,
whatever. You can get them places other
than Amazon. I bought it somewhere other
than Amazon. I sent uh I sent Luke a
picture of this, I think.
>> Little video.
>> This is a working steam engine.
>> So sick.
>> I still have to get like a special steam
engine oil that actually finally just
shipped today. I called around to local
hobby stores and they were like, this is
so funny. I called one of them and I was
like, "Hey, so bit of a longshot, you
know, question." And he he replies like
he like cuts me off practically. He's
like, "Haha, there's no such thing as a
longshot question. We, you know, we get
that all the time. What can I do for
you?" And I'm like, "I need steam engine
oil." And he's like, "Oh, yeah. Not for
a long time." [laughter]
>> Okay.
Anyway, I still I still I still need to
get some steam engine oil. I can't find
>> Does it run off of the oil or is oil for
Okay. So, what is its fuel then? Like
>> I'mma let you guess.
>> Coal.
>> Uh oh. Well, okay. Yeah. Fuel. So, it
uses alcohol.
>> Okay.
>> So, under here is an alcohol.
>> Oh, yeah. I didn't mean Oh my god.
>> No, the steam engine oil is just oil.
So, steam engine oil, you can't just use
any oil. There's like substitutes that
you could like maybe use for a little
bit, but it has like animal tallow in it
because Yeah. It wants to be like a
healthier oil, you know? So you could
French fries. Okay, it doesn't matter.
The point is uh you put [laughter]
it
>> you put alcohol
you put alcohol in the reservoir down
here which like pops out on the other
side. Here you go. Here you go. There's
a there's a good view of it. Um
and then it burns and it heats up the
water that's in this reservoir up here.
>> And then Oh yeah, here there there's a
cool cutaway. Uh there's like a a
pressure relief valve here. And then
this is actually basically your like
throttle. So this determines how much
steam is allowed to go through here.
This smoke stack doesn't smoke. Uh I was
very disappointed by that.
>> Uh the exhaust is actually Oh, you can't
see it on this cutaway. Uh you can't see
it here either. Gosh darn it. Where's
the darn exhaust?
>> Is it lying then?
>> Cuz that picture shows shows a bunch of
smoke coming out of the stack, does it
not?
>> Oh, did it? I don't know. I didn't see.
>> So beautiful. Anyway, the exhaust comes
out this side. Um, and then yeah, so
this reservoir right here gets filled
with steam engine oil, which has animal
tallow in it apparently. It's every The
reason I keep bringing it up, it's like
every article I found, it's like, "You
need the one with the animal tallow."
I'm like, "Okay, all right. All right,
all right, all right." Uh, and then it
goes into here, and then um, basically
the piston goes up and down and it spins
this thing. And there's a reverse gear,
so you can actually run it either way.
And I'm so excited and I'm going to cool
a steam machine with it.
So, I built this on my vacation so that
I can bring it into the office and
figure out how to hook it up to the
cooling fan.
>> You'll find a way
>> on a steam machine. So, I'm going to
have the steam powered steam machine.
>> Yeah.
>> And um it will probably get like 300,000
views, but it's okay because I got to
build a little model steam engine and
expense it.
>> Did you film any of it? Are you just
going to show up with a built steam
engine?
>> I took a I took a couple videos. I did
it with the kids. So, it was like it was
like a fun little crafting. It didn't
take very long. Really expensive. Like
this. I did pay
>> pretty wickedly expensive
>> that much for it. But like these are all
little precision cast or precision
machined parts. Like you put together
all of this.
>> Yeah.
>> Over on the left here. Um,
>> I mean, if you're doing it with your
kids, too, that's probably fun in an
educational way.
>> Yeah. No, it was
>> fun in an educational way is maybe not
the easiest thing to ever
>> get.
>> No, it was it was really fun. It was
really cool.
>> I I I Googled desktop steam engine and
the second I got past the products
listing. Wait for it. Okay. Sponsored
products, actual popular products.
>> Nice.
>> Steam machine. [laughter]
>> Nice.
>> Makes sense.
Oh man, my back's sore. I played tennis
today. I don't play tennis.
>> And so it's just like just like
>> different movements.
>> Yeah, different movements, motions. It
was really sunny.
>> Tired.
>> Oh, you're outdoors.
>> Nice.
>> Nice.
>> Nice. Uh, next up,
speaking of Steam engines,
uh, Valve released the official Steam
Machine CAD files, giving modders and
manufacturers the tools to create custom
shells and designs. The community
announcement also included updates on
FSR 4.1 support and Steam Machine
reservations. The CAD release comes as
Dbrand shifts its Steam Machine plans
after its portal inspired companion cube
case was shelved over Valve trademark
concerns. The company now appears to be
focusing on skins instead of cases. I
guess
>> that makes sense.
>> Sure.
Uh, discussion question. What are your
plans for LMG's steam machine? Are we
going to dress that bad boy up? Well, I
guess you're going to cool it with a
steam engine. So, that's been answered.
>> Yeah.
>> Um,
what do you Okay, this is really long.
What do you think of a world where it's
common practice for console PC case TV
manufacturers to release CAD files? I
want all my tech to have cute little
devil horns or look like the Batman
logo. Gosh darn it.
>> Fantastic.
>> Yeah, they should.
>> I I think that would be wonderful. Um,
>> by Glow Circuit, I get a commission.
Okay, that's all.
>> Do you Is it like That's That's this
thing, right? So, there's the collab
thing.
>> Yeah,
>> that's cool.
>> Yeah. They're our rap partner Dbrand.
>> Yeah. And it's not like yo yo yo dbrand
yo like it's not like that kind of rap.
>> It's the other kind of raping things. Y
>> um no
>> well I don't personally get a
commission. Linus Media Group
Incorporated gets a commission and then
you know people like Colton get paid
presumably. I think we pay him. [snorts]
>> Nah, he got fired. Um
Valve seems uh like one of the coolest
most consumerfriendly tech companies
lately. Who else is making a case for
that title? I don't know who else is
taking that much profit margin.
>> It's It's one of those things. It's like
when the when the good times are good,
everything's good. It takes a It takes a
a truly special sort of evil. When the
good times are rolling and you like act
real evil, um
I I I I don't know. I don't know what a
Valve will would look like if they
didn't have the luxury of an unlimited
money printing machine.
>> Yeah. Because they just take massive
percentages from developers.
>> Yeah.
>> And Valve also, you know, participates
in
stuff that, you know, we're not really
huge fans of. Um
the way that they've turned a blind eye
to, you know, gambling on skins. Um
not like super admirable. they turned a
blind like encouraged it in a lot of
ways. Only recently, I think, have they
taken any steps at all to not encourage
it. So, it's I mean, I like I like
Steam. I like Valve. Um I think if you
want to look at a lot of companies at a
similar size, they're doing a lot better
about a lot of things. Um
>> Yep.
>> But it just I I don't agree with the
like
>> they're a good guy. Full stop.
>> Yeah. uh objectively
>> the like constant like bootlickery kind
of stuff. I'm not I'm not super into it,
>> but is what it is.
>> Um if if you do, hey, all power to you.
Um speaking of not all power to you,
deleting files is illegal now is the is
the title of this one. Uh it's a little
it's a little
>> this is a little bit of a school of
clickbait going on. Um
>> I don't know. I actually think this is
legitimately pretty scary.
>> It is, but uh it's an intense title.
It's not even necessarily wrong. It's
just an intense title. They they grab
your attention. They know what they're
doing.
>> Yeah.
>> This person's made some titles before.
>> Yeah.
>> Um the US Department of Justice is
prosecuting.
>> They're water condensation experts.
[laughter]
>> They know what they're doing. I I gotcha
[laughter] is prosecuting Samuel uh
Turnick and uh who is an American
citizen for allegedly providing US
border authorities with a passcode that
wiped the contents of his phone. Mr.
Turnick's attorneys say that it was
unlawful for US Customs and Border
Protection to seize the phone when Mr.
Turnick returned to the US last year.
The US government has long claimed it
can search and seize people's devices
without a search warrant or court order
until they are permitted entry to the
United States. The case centers on a
feature of graphine OS which lets a
device owner set a duress pin which is
awesome and uh on entry deliberately
wipes the phone instead of unlocking it
which is kind of brilliant. Uh
discussion question do you use a burner
hardware when traveling to the US? I
don't, but I'm starting to feel like I
should. Like, this is kind of crazy.
>> I don't, but I have cleansed content off
my device multiple times.
Yeah, I'm um
I'm I'm looking at this going like I I
I'm I'm failing to understand how it is
not within my rights to delete the data
on a device that I own at any time that
I wish to delete said data.
>> I don't agree with that
>> really
>> at any time.
>> Okay. But I'm not there is no warrant.
There's no suspicion of any kind of
illdoing. Like if I'm just if I'm
crossing a border,
ah man, there's a lot there's a lot of
stuff that doesn't fly when you're
crossing a border. That is sort of
generally a right because you are you're
literally in no man's land. You are
>> It's tough. I don't uh I mean I don't
like it. I don't know that we're going
to have a solution, but I don't like it.
Um
actually, they claimed he had seam on
it. How would they know? That's crazy.
>> What do you mean?
>> And they can claim lots of things. Uh
the US is claiming a lot of stuff about
a lot of things right now. Uh I'd love
to see the evidence for that. Um
>> Pegasus, they're in every single home
phone.
>> If they knew then, then they wouldn't
need to do this.
>> Yeah, they're also sure as heck not in
graphine OS. I can guarantee you that. I
can't guarantee you that, but I can
pretty much guarantee you that graphine
OS doesn't have any Pegasuses living in
it.
>> Yeah, I mean, at the very least, be
aware when you're crossing the border. I
have purged my a lot of things from my
phone many a time going across the
border just knowing that they might
seize it. And it's like, okay, well,
maybe they'll have uh some stuff, but
they won't have
things that I don't want them to have.
>> Yeah. like a like a duress duress
password like I am
>> you can also do things like uh sign out
of a bunch of different things.
>> Mhm.
But then like at uh
yeah like there there's an interesting
conversation here like they asked for a
password. He gave them a password.
Like if they So you could sign out of
something, but if you if they demand
your password, are you obligated to give
them a real password?
>> Yeah. I wonder I don't know.
>> I mean, this this really comes down to
the same general questions that we
always end up talking about when when we
approach anything to do with like
encryption, right, is do we have a right
to privacy?
>> Yeah.
>> For our personal data. And it's
>> um I think in general, you've been very
hardline. We have a right to encrypt our
data and we have a right to privacy with
respect to our personal data. Does that
change at a border? Because I I could
actually see an argument for that.
>> I can understand the border people
wanting that to change at the border.
>> Yeah, I I could I could understand that,
too.
>> I think it depends who you are. This
person is an American citizen. In my
opinion, they should still have that
right.
I do I would kind of question
if you have a if you have a foreign
national entering your country, does
that change things at all? I'm not sure.
Uh but if it's like literally my own
country, like I don't know, screw off.
Yeah, I don't know. I uh I think we've
talked about this on the I think we've
talked about this on the W show in the
past, but for for many years, it seems
to have chilled out lately, but for many
years, I actually found that I got way
more hassle from uh Canada Border
Protection Agency compared to compared
to the States.
>> Yeah.
>> U like coming home, they they
way more than when I was leaving.
>> I've had casual for fun conversations
with American border guards like often.
The last time I went over the first time
ever that my car has been searched at
the border. It was so fast and my car
was in a completely exactly the same it
was state when I came back. I don't even
know what they did. I I was having a
casual conversation for the thing. Dude
like with the border guard, he like
apologized to me and he's like, "You got
selected. It's FIFA. A lot of people are
getting selected right now. Sorry."
>> Right.
>> Go do the thing. I got out of my car,
um, walked into the thing, dude checked
my paper and went, "Uh, yeah, cool.
You're fine and you're also good to go,
by the way." And I walked back to my car
and they were already done. I walked
like
30 ft and then walked back.
>> I have no idea what they did. [laughter]
I don't know if they were looking for
like something specific that was
relatively large and they were able to
go really fast or what, but it was like
actually no time at all.
>> I wonder if it was just like a drug
thing. They just had the dog go.
>> Yeah, [snorts] maybe. Maybe. I have not
a clue very quick and then coming on the
coming back up. Yeah, they were like way
more pointed about stuff.
>> I mean, this is a good question from
Dwin Len. What's the difference between
this and wiping your data before you
cross the border?
>> I've heard that can be a problem, too.
>> Why?
>> I don't know.
>> Am I not allowed to cross the border
with a blank phone? That seems crazy.
>> That is pretty wild.
I mean, things you can do is have a real
looking but not real email. Um, have
[snorts] it signed up to like a bunch of
stuff that just sends you email. Um, no,
but seriously,
>> none of this should be necessary.
>> It's very easy to generate an email that
looks real for you. There's tons of
different versions of your name. So you
could just spin up a Gmail that's like
literally your name but in just some
variation and then sign it up to like a
bunch of different services.
>> It's like a daily prayer thing and
whatever. Yeah.
>> Some LinkedIn that is even isn't even
the LinkedIn that you actually normally
use.
>> It'll it'll spam you a bunch of emails
all the time because it's LinkedIn. Um
just like services like that just make
it look like it is real.
>> Um do things Yeah, do things like that.
>> I shouldn't man. You could be logged out
of that email on your phone all the time
and then when you're going to go over
the border, just flip emails.
There's ways
>> I shouldn't need any of that.
>> No, I I agree. But uh I mean I remember
I remember being able to just walk over
the border without any identification.
Canada and US used to be very very
close. Um that changed September 11th
fairly obviously. Um,
but yeah, it used to be like very much a
non-issue.
[clears throat]
>> That's crazy. I think I I think I've
talked about this before, too, but the
uh in between the series premiere and
the series finale on Friends,
there's scenes in the airport and the
like series premiere one, you like could
just go and see someone off at the gate.
>> Yeah.
>> There's no like security. And and then
in the in the finale there's like it's
po it's post 911 and there's TSA and
stuff like they had to they had to like
do it differently. Um they couldn't just
do a like for like parallel.
>> I remembered when Abbottzford airport
the the hanger was just like [laughter]
effectively a barn.
Like you entered one side and you could
just see the other side and walk there
if you wanted. I guess there was like a
counter where you could get your tickets
and then there was like the doors at the
other side where you'd walk out to your
plane and there was nothing in between
and it was just like I don't know a
building you could hang out in I guess.
Uh and then now it's just like security
everywhere and and all blocked off and
blah blah blah.
Yeah.
>> Hey, speaking of LinkedIn, just to go
back to that,
>> there's security now and stuff. I uh I'm
pretty excited about a new feature on
LinkedIn.
LinkedIn has announced several
>> anti- AI slop measures, including an
already released button that literally
says, "Seems like AI slop and can be
used to report a post specifically for
being AI generated." In a post on
LinkedIn, the company's chief product
officer, Hari Srinson
Hari wrote, "AI slop is a top priority
for all of us. We really care about
this." alongside a batch of new measures
such as new classifiers to detect and
demote AI slop/lowquality
posts reducing it in suggested content.
A private analytics dashboard warning
when other users think your post reads
as inauthentic or heavily AI generated.
Oh man, that would be the sickest burn.
>> Get flagged as inauthentic.
>> You get flagged as AI, but you're like,
"Oh no, but I actually wrote that."
That's honestly if you ever look at
anything on LinkedIn, it a lot of it
should probably get flagged that way.
>> And replacing the enhance your post AI
feature with a proofreader that fixes
wording without changing a user's voice.
This seems legitimate. Why is LinkedIn
leading the charge?
>> A Microsoft company.
>> What is happening right now?
>> That is that is weird. I don't
understand this.
>> It's It sounds great.
>> It sounds great.
>> I don't think it's gonna fix LinkedIn
for me. I still hate LinkedIn.
>> LinkedIn is terrible.
>> It's so annoying. I hate that. I've
complained about this before. Like I I
don't like Twitter, but it was the place
that you could go to find people in the
industry. And now that place seems to be
LinkedIn.
>> I know.
>> And that sucks. [laughter] I actually
like wish Twitter would always
>> Twitter is a flaming garbage fire, but
>> at least it's not LinkedIn.
[laughter] I'm so upset that I actually
like have to actually use LinkedIn.
>> LinkedIn is a garbage fire in a dumpster
behind a Wendy's in hell. Like
[laughter] it's so bad.
>> Why do I have to go there to network?
>> Yeah,
it's uh it's it's genuinely very
frustrating.
>> Catalyst has moved to Tumblr.
>> Oh man,
>> we're trying to network, not find porn.
>> [laughter]
>> Didn't they give up? They bought it and
then they were like, "No more porn." And
then they didn't they give up on it?
>> I'm not sure. I don't even remember.
>> I I can't exactly search.
>> Porn player says Tumblr banned it. Is it
Is it still banned?
>> Yeah. Did it stay? I knew they banned
it, but did it stay banned?
>> All right. Apparent apparently it stayed
banned. They got rid of it. All right.
>> You got You got to censor that.
>> All right. I'm heading over. I'm I'm
heading over. We're going to Tumblr
right now. Let's do it.
>> Screen sharing it.
>> Yeah.
>> The front page will be fine. I'm sure
>> we're going to Tumblr.
>> Front page.
>> Taylor Swift. Seriously. Login. Sure.
Trending. Makes sense. Open the app.
Yeah. Sell me the app. Taylor Swift.
>> Honestly, kind of makes sense.
>> Seriously though,
>> kind of makes sense.
>> Okay. Sure. I agree. All right. What am
I looking at? What do we got here? Okay.
We got Spider-Man,
OC Art, Marvel, Rocky, the Aridian,
whatever that is.
>> That's from That's from Hail Mary.
>> Oh, okay. Got it. Shoe ad that tracks.
>> Uhoh. Uh,
you're good. Oh,
>> okay. Things got a little weird there.
Okay. What do we got? [laughter]
>> Uh, that's Rocky. We're still okay.
>> Okay. We're still good.
Uh, all right. Okay.
>> Oh,
>> and can't look at the site anymore.
Well, guess what, Tumblr? I am not
creating an account. Go try though.
>> My heart rate. My gosh.
>> Yeah, that was that was so
good. Do another four hours of overtime.
[laughter]
>> Bank account's like, "Yeah, no, do it.
Keep going, Lenn."
[laughter]
>> Oh, man. Anyway, congrats LinkedIn on
your new seems like AI slot button.
Hopefully, it increases the quality of
the content.
>> Have to get a lot better. [laughter]
>> That is a step in the right direction.
>> Doesn't Tumblr have like the lowest
worth of any of the users of any
platform? Are they like negative?
>> What?
>> Like uh you know
>> like more users means the platform is
worth less or where are we going with
this? You know, explain yourself. each
each platform kind of has like a worth
of a user in like ad revenue or like
anything like that. And I think every
time Tumblr has been bought, they're
like, "Oh, wait. This platform is
worthless and we can't monetize it and
each user is like worth 14 cents." Um,
like we actually can't keep doing this.
It's kind of like uh Luke, you talk
about Twitch and how it's really really
really expensive. Well, you just can't
monetize Tumblr. None of them.
>> Oh, wow. Past owners. David Karp created
and ran Tumblr. Yahoo purchased for 1.1
billion before its value declined.
Verizon gained ownership when it bought
Yahoo and it is now owned by Automatic,
the parent company of WordPress, who
bought it from Verizon in August 2019.
WordPress?
Yeah. It just keeps getting passed
around and they try to fix it and they
can't. It's great.
Huh. Huh. Okay. How many current users?
>> Automatic CEO calls Tumblr his biggest
failure [laughter]
so far.
[sighs] You know what isn't the biggest
failure IS LT store sucks. Let's go.
>> Oh shoot. Do we even have stock? Oh
yeah. Okay. Small and medium actually.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we have a little bit
of stock of small and medium across all
three colors. Okay, cool.
any reviews yet? I guess people probably
don't have them yet. Hey,
just kind of curious. Do reviews stack
between the two sites? I actually don't
know this either.
Okay. Well, looking forward to hearing
from people who are,
you know, hopefully very happy with
their new socks anyway. Oh, right.
Floatplane announcement. Have you ever
wondered what exactly it is that Colton
Potter does at LMG? Yeah.
>> Well, now's your chance to find out.
We're going to have our byearly Lionus
sits down with an exact series where I'm
going to be sitting down with this.
Okay, I read that wrong. We have a
by-early Linus sits down with exact
series where I sit down with an
executive and just talk about how their
part of the company is going. We've done
Taran uh the CEO, James head of writing,
Luke did one with Labs, and now it's our
chief revenue officer's turn. Is he an
officer? I can't remember. He's He's
head of revenue. I I forget his exact
title. He's in charge of money.
>> CRG.
>> Yeah. Like but not counting it. We don't
>> Chief revenue guy.
>> We don't let him count the money. We
just let him gen generate chief revenue
generator.
>> Yeah.
>> Um
>> anyway, you can drop any questions that
you have under this post over on float
plane for our for our chief of revenue,
Colton Potter. In Colton's words, I'm
the revenue guy for LMG. making sure we
bring in enough revenue to keep LMG's
bank account from hitting zero dollars
by creating opportunities to make money.
That is the most LinkedIn post
that I've read today. Um,
thank you for that, Chief of Revenue,
Colton Potter. Anyway, you can post any
questions you have and uh we'll be
talking about it during my sit down with
him. If you're more of a video type of
person, we have another installment of
LMG Whips where we showcase George Oh,
we got Jordan's truck. Oh, [gasps]
we got Jordan's truck. Luke, have you
seen Jordan's truck?
>> No.
>> You need to.
>> Oh,
>> how cool is that?
>> That's so cute.
>> And he's doing some really cool stuff
with it, too.
>> Wait, did it come with that paint job?
>> No. Heavens no. He He did it. Remember
how we painted my Civic?
>> Yeah.
>> He did it with like a roller.
>> No way.
>> I'm serious. [laughter] That's so
>> And it looks like he masked nothing.
>> It's It's like [clears throat] on the
wheels. Like it's got drips [laughter]
on it. It is so good.
>> It's all over the frame. This thing has
so much personality.
>> That's awesome.
>> Uh so we have that and then we also have
an episode of Why Wan Late? An epic
funny prank happened. Gone wrong, but
not really gone wrong. Okay. I don't
know what that means, but good job,
Sammy.
>> What is this picture?
>> I like that he's in the universe. Yeah,
I mean he is he is in the universe.
Sammy's not wrong.
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>> You should benchmark it with the whole
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>> Oh man, [laughter] that's a throwback.
Call Ivon Ho. CALLING IVONNE HOME. NO.
NO, IT'S IT'S one of Oh, man. It's these
little things that just drive me crazy,
you know? Do you know that ways makes
you press go now twice?
There's a go now button and then when
you press it, there's like a thing that
you that you like it's it's it's like
the most painfully long animation of all
time. And then if you want to just go
now, like literally now, what does now
mean? You have to press it again. And
I'm like, I am driving a car right now.
any unnecessary interaction is an
unnecessary interaction or anyway
>> speaking of unnecessary interaction
Microsoft announced TPM based uh
attestation for its key management
service the system enterprises use to
activate Windows across big fleets of
machines before a KMS server can
activate anything the TPM chip will
verify it's genuine Microsoft sanctioned
hardware and hasn't been tampered with
pirates have have abused KMS for years
by spinning up fake activation servers
that trick Windows into thinking that
it's licensed, including the popular
online KMS method from the Massgrave
Collective uh that's been around for a
while uh which pings a spoofed server
every 6 months to keep activations
alive. It becomes mandatory with the
next Windows Server release and
readiness notifications start hitting
Windows Server 2025 in August. This is
not in the notes, but I'm assuming
that's because maybe they never want to
support Windows Server again is my is my
guess. Uh, the crackdown may already be
behind the curve because Masgrave has
released a newer method called TS Forge
that targets Microsoft's DRM
architecture directly and doesn't rely
on KMS emulation at all. [laughter] This
also lands weeks after Microsoft blocked
all known ways to install Windows 11
without a Microsoft account. [laughter]
Uh discussion question. Microsoft made
TPM mandatory in the name of security
and now it's doing antipiriracy duty. Is
this a bait and switch or was this the
obvious next step? Uh
>> yes.
>> Yeah. Uh discussion question. Is
Microsoft ever actually winning this
fight?
>> I mean I for years I've thought that
they weren't actually trying to win it,
>> but then now they're they seem to be
trying to crack down on it again and I
don't really understand it. Windows is
what, like 8% of their revenue now or
something like that.
>> It's a staff change thing. Maybe someone
else is running this and they're like,
"Well, we should stop the the piracy of
Windows. We should promote Linux even
more. We should really push people right
out the door.
>> Yeah, it it feels like I I
>> honestly I welcome it with open arms.
Do it more, brother. Do it more."
>> I don't know.
>> Give Linux more users.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I could see that.
>> Drive the adoption.
>> Let's get more compatibility. We need
some creative apps over there.
>> We do though.
>> Photo and video editing.
>> Yeah, we do.
>> Screen sharing could be a lot a lot a
lot a lot better.
>> I did I tell you I've started my
interview series for um
>> Yeah, I sent you a thing.
>> Yes, I think I think Vance or James is
arranging the interviews with with them,
but um
>> yeah, I've only done Lewig so far.
>> Is published? I have it's it's
published.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. He was streaming at the time.
>> Oh, did he do it as a clip?
>> Yeah.
>> No way.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Of course he would.
>> It's on Lwin, I think.
>> Everything's content.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Well, if you guys want to watch my
little interview with Lewig about um how
much Windows matters to him.
>> Holy crap. This is half a million views.
It's a good title.
That's crazy. This is actually like a
pretty good performer for him. Right up
there with whatever this is.
[laughter]
>> Ledwick's one of those guys like I I
think do whatever.
>> I think I've described him the term I
use to describe him most is he is an S
tier personality. He could do anything,
be talking about anything, be in any
room, and he would just automatically be
interesting and magnetic to the people
around him. He's just one of those guys
that uh
>> he did a thing recently. I don't I don't
fully understand the scenario. Uh it's
called streamer university. I don't know
the details around it to be honest. I
don't really care. Yeah. This
>> Yeah.
>> But he taught a class on like how to be
a streamer.
>> Yeah. And he just like
>> it's really good. He's like a very good
teacher.
>> Like straight up just completely
opening up everything that you need to
know. Like no secrets, no like like
guarded, you know, proprietary
knowledge. He's just like, "Yeah, here's
what to do." Which is pretty cool.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. And it's just like it's but it's
impressive even how he like handles
those classrooms
and the the people because there is a
lot of streamers that are just
you know disturber streamers uh and a
bunch of them were there.
>> Tell me more.
>> And so he had to control a classroom
that was roughly the equivalent of like
middle school or early high school
in like the actions that were being
taken in the class. and he does a
amazing job. It's just like what the
hellh [laughter]
I don't know. Impressive.
Anyway, I'm uh I'm looking forward to
I'm looking forward to that video. So,
it's um it's it's a it's a a world
without Windows is kind of the the
working title of it.
And [sighs] I don't know, man. I um I'm
still on Steam OS.
I still don't see the point of being on
anything but Steam OS.
>> I still spend the vast majority of my
time on Kashi. Kashi is still my
favorite. Um it's tuned in enough at
this point where I rarely have to ever
even consider the fact that I'm running
a different operating system. Um, my
laptop hasn't booted into anything that
wasn't Mint since the beginning of the
Linux challenge ever. I have a dual boot
drive in there and it just has never
been booted to. At this point, I'm just
going to wipe it and use it for storage.
>> And by the time you boot to it, Windows
is going to put up that thing and harass
you about why you haven't switched to
Edge yet and ask you if you like gaming
or entertainment
hour of updates or something. Yep.
>> It's uh
>> whole bunch of reboots. It'll be great.
Yeah, it's super annoying. So, like I
it's been great, but at the same time
when I need to do something, photo edit,
video edit, sometimes honestly screen
sharing is so not cool on Linux that if
I know I'm going to have to do a bunch
of it, I'll just hop over. Um, that's
fair. So, I do I do I've been enjoying
my dual boot and it's pretty quick.
Like, modern hardware is pretty quick.
Booting is pretty fast.
And with I have secure boot on both so I
don't have to like turn secure boot off
or do whatever. U so I can flip between
operating systems really fast. So if I
need to do something on Windows I'll
just jump over do it and then jump back.
It's like really not a huge deal.
>> Am I missing something or is this the
most viewers we've had on Wan show in
like months?
>> The Minecraft gang.
>> Is it the title?
>> The Minecraft gang came through. Dude,
should we talk about Minecraft more?
>> Is that what happened?
>> Minecraft Let's Play on W show. I'm
down.
>> I'm so confused.
>> Let's do it.
>> When did I uh
uh Did Did I talk about playing Mecca
Chameleon on when show yet?
>> Very shortly, I think.
>> Did I? I thought I played it this week.
Are you sure?
>> Maybe you just talked to me.
Oh,
>> sometimes, honestly, it's hard to
differentiate conversations we've had in
person versus conversations we have on
WA.
>> That's true. Uh, anyway, it was really
fun. We did a we did a family game
night. Um, so we we actually we actually
played it. Uh, maybe I talked about
buying it.
>> Yeah. And for it's like six Canadian
dollars per license and we did a family
game night and it was like such a blast.
I um I
I think I am very now turned on to this
whole like friend slop as a family game
night thing. We've done in the last
month we've done like a golf with your
friends
>> great
>> family game night and we've done a mecha
chameleon family game night
>> and um the problem that we've had cuz
obviously that was like the vision the
whole time, right? like we built that
land area in the in the basement of our
house. Like this was like the plan. So,
you're probably watching this going
like, "Sorry, Lennis. You're only like
just figuring this out." And it's like
we've we've done some stuff like my kids
and I played a lot of Minecraft
Dungeons, but it was four players. Like,
a lot of things are not designed for
five players. It's a super weird number.
The world is made for four. And so we've
and what's ended up happening is there's
been other games where I've intended for
us to play them all together, but then
the kids run off and get like really
good at it
or, you know, it's really hard for the
the relatively non like Twitch gamer
people to to keep up with.
>> Mecha Chameleon is a great game for that
reason. It is probably the best family
game that we have played so far because
you don't need to be able to, you know,
play 3D chess in terms of your strategy.
>> It's not a Twitch shooter.
>> You don't have to have great reflexes.
It actually uh my girls are far more
artistically inclined than my boy. And
so all of a sudden he found himself in a
situation where the girls were actually
very competitive at a game with him and
because none of us had played it yet and
um they like uh my son like heard about
it at school and had like he installed
it and was like so like can I play it?
I'm like no wait we're all going to play
it together. We're all going to
experience it for the first time
together.
>> It was super fun. They're already asking
like, "Hey, when are we going to have
like Mecha Chameleon night?" My son
actually was supposed to have a friend
over that night. Uh it was like on
Monday or Sunday or something like that.
And I was like, "Oh, okay. Well, maybe
we can maybe we can play Mecha Chameleon
together later in the week." And he
looks at his calendar. He's like, "Well,
the first time I'm going to be able to
do that is Thursday. Okay. I'm going to
tell my friend you can't come over." And
I'm like, "No, no, no, no. You don't
have to do that. Like, I'm not I'm not
looking to interfere with your social
life. Like, family time is important,
but kids building their own social
circle is also really important." He's
like, "It's done already." And I'm like,
[laughter] "All right." So, like, he
really wanted to play the game. So,
finding something, dude, and any of the
parents know this. Finding something
that everyone wants to do to the point
where they they will willingly, actively
carve out family time is like it's the
holy freaking grail. Like, it doesn't
exist.
>> And Mecca Chameleon turns out to have
been it. And so,
>> it sounds like a wicked game. So, if we
can keep Mecha Chameleon, you know,
sacred to family game night only, then
nobody will go and Luke on, you know,
Mario Kart ate it and just like
>> that poor girl.
>> Yeah, that poor child.
>> I had to This story keeps haunting me. I
had to explain this story very recently
cuz someone asked me about it. I was
like, "What the heck?
>> Why did you Why did you abuse that small
child in Mario Kart? traumatized
on stage
in front of thousands of people.
>> That's not true. [laughter] That's not
true.
>> And there was no prize money or
anything. He just did a he destroyed
that poor girl for sport to make a child
cry.
>> Oh, you want some candy? No. [laughter]
>> And then you eat it all.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Anyway, family game night.
>> Absolute blast.
>> It's not what happened. It's not what
happened, but it is kind of what
happened. [laughter]
>> No. No.
>> Did the child end up destroyed?
>> Yeah.
>> Was it by your hand?
>> I could argue no.
>> Who's Who had the controller?
>> I did.
>> Right. Okay.
>> But it wasn't the controller that did
the action in the game.
>> Right.
>> So, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [laughter] for
some Yeah. This is the launch. This is a
launch event. No, he's defending himself
now.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the
launch event for the Switch. Um we're up
on stage. Oh my goodness. Hello. Uh this
feels so formal. Um we're up on stage
checking it out. I'm talking about to
one of the Nintendo people that I'm on
the far side of the stage from the
Switch. The Switch was not in the middle
of the stage and I was having input
issues and I was like, "Dude, I think
your your new console here doesn't have
that great of range with the Joy-Cons."
and he's got the mic and he's trying to
roast me and say, "Oh, you're just
trying to like
uh pre- set up excuses for why you're
going to you're going to lose." And I
was like, "No, I've played a lot of
Mario Kart 8. I'm going to win, but like
your your controllers are having issues
on this side of the stage. This kind of
sucks. Can we move closer or something?"
He's like, "No, no, no, no, no." So then
I'm like, "Okay, this guy's calling me
out like hard on stage, so I'm going to
try to do really But my plan was to
basically win the race, get to the end,
right before the end, slam myself into
the wall, wait for this little girl to
go over the finish line, and then go
over just to like prove that I could,
but not actually do it. And then I get
to the end of the case, the race, slam
myself into the wall. Mario Kart 8
Deluxe, not Mario Kart 8, but Mario Kart
8 Deluxe has a feature that is like
training wheels or whatever, and it'll
it'll keep you going in the direction
you're supposed to, and it drags me
sliding across the wall over the finish
line and forced me to win the race.
>> Forced him. forced him. He didn't want
to. He didn't want to crush that poor
little girl.
>> People there were like, "Wait, why would
you do that?" And I was like, "I did.
[laughter]
I I did it. I didn't want to. I had no
idea it was like a feature in the game
>> was involuntary. He just He can't help
crushing children."
>> I was like continually steering into the
wall and trying to break and it's just
sliding me against the wall.
>> But the one that ended up getting break
was the poor child. She's still broken
to this day, I heard. And her mom, I
remember correctly, her mom was like a
Nintendo employee and it [laughter] was
like she was like actually upset with
me. And I was like, I really didn't want
to do that. [laughter] I'm sorry.
>> But that that guy on the stage, he just
he made me so angry and I had to find
someone to take out my rage on him. Why
not the nearest child?
>> Oh man, I
was I was like actually rattled for the
rest of the event. [laughter]
>> It's so funny. Which is why which is why
Dan [laughter] and I love bringing up
this story so much.
>> Oh man, embellishing it is even better
[laughter] cuz then you get all upset
and I have to explain it again and we
just like irrigate.
>> He goes the Luke version of Red.
>> What is What is the Luke version of Red?
>> It's kind of pale [laughter]
>> but a little bit red.
>> Oh my god.
Ooh, speaking of red on faces, um, I
have brought up already, I think, with
you that, uh, people keep creating
conspiracy theories that the steam frame
must be coming out soon because I have
marks on my face. [laughter]
>> Um, but actually, what I had was a zit
on my nose that was kind of red.
>> I thought it was like here.
>> I think I had one there, too.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Yeah. Over the last little while, I've
just had like a couple breakouts and so
it has created this
>> breakouts from wearing a VR headset.
>> Sure, let's go with that. Anyway,
>> maybe
>> I still don't know anything, which means
that I can still talk about rumors.
>> And according to I guess notebook check,
uh Valve's Steam Frame VR headset is
getting closer to launch after receiving
FCC certification, a sign that the
hardware is moving through the final
stages toward release. It is expected to
arrive in 2026 and folks have been
watching very very closely, but Valve
still hasn't announced an official
release date or a price. Our discussion
question here is, what would a
successful launch of the Steam frame
mean for the future of VR gaming?
>> Maybe it would be less dead,
>> less cables. You're welcome. I I don't I
don't think it's going to
>> I shouldn't say I don't think it's going
to meaningfully change. It's not going
to meaningfully change the way that
No, I I think I You know what? I
disagree with myself 10 seconds ago.
>> You never said anything.
>> Yeah, but I was thinking it. [laughter]
>> Okay.
>> Big changes.
Big big changes.
>> Yeah,
>> because this is the first doit all
device. And yes, I'm aware that the
Quest 3 can can do wireless and I'm
aware that the Index can, you know, have
a wireless third party interface on it
for PC fidelity gaming. I'm aware that
there's there's a lot of things that do
most of what the Steam Frame is going to
do, but I don't think there's anything
that is going to be the allrounder that
the Steam Frame I expect to be. So,
being able to play standalone games,
being able to stream games to the big
screen, being able to play highfidelity
games over a high-speed wireless link
locally. Um,
I wish the displays were better.
>> Isn't Beat Saber not going to work on it
or something?
>> Who said that?
>> Um,
>> I haven't heard anything like that.
>> Beataber not working with Steam frame.
Steam frame and the Beat Saber
situation. Steam Frame will pretty much
certainly be able to run Steam Beat
Saber natively. Oh,
>> why does the Steam version of Beat Saber
no longer work?
Uh, well, I don't know if this thread is
like actually the one that I'm trying to
Meta are complete jerks and they hold
Beat Saber hostage. Oh.
>> Oh, right. Meta owns it.
>> Oh, so that's the problem. Yeah, I
didn't really dive into this. I'm going
to try to find a better
>> Oh, so it just won't run natively on it.
But if I have it on my PC, then I can
still play it,
>> I guess. So
>> Oh, that's still kind of annoying,
actually.
>> I don't I don't actually really know.
Hold on. Am I over this or not? I'm
thinking about it because
>> man, has every website we've gone to
today had an LTT story ad?
>> Cuz the way that I think that I'm going
to use the Steam Frame far more than my
previous VR headsets is that I want to
be able to take it with me when I
travel.
>> Oh, yeah. Category unsupported. All
right.
Um,
and I think I could still take it with
me when I travel and play BeatSaber
streamed from my laptop cuz all I need
is the wireless dongle. And the wireless
dongle is a reasonable size. It's not
like one of those big like, yeah, I'm 6
GHz and I have this like giant antenna
and it's directional and like whatever.
Like it's actually it's pretty small.
>> Yeah, no linked me actually directly to
it. So yeah, this game's graphics
settings cannot be configured well to
run on a Steam frame.
>> Weird. Okay, Conrad's piping up. He
says, "Our ROAS is excellent, by the
way.
I forget what that stands for. It's some
business thing.
>> It's
>> return on ad spend."
>> Yeah. [sighs] Yeah.
>> Mhm. Okay. Thank you, Conrad. Um, keep
keep up the good work, Conrad. People
need to see all of the all of the LTT
store
um ads.
>> I don't know if he does that. I don't
think he does that.
>> Oh, I know.
>> Okay.
>> But when they click the ad, they're
going to go to a site. true.
>> That he works on.
>> Yeah. Hell yeah.
>> That's right. That's right.
>> That's how that's how it goes.
>> Hell [laughter] yeah.
>> Conrad gave a thumbs up. [gasps]
>> Um, so yeah, I'm very excited for the
Steam frame. No, I'm not wearing it yet.
No, I don't know anything yet. As soon
as I know anything, you'll hear nothing
from me.
>> Yeah,
>> that's how you'll know.
>> That is a bit of an indicator.
>> Mhm.
>> I'll stop talking about the Steam Frame
completely when I am enjoying it. So,
the news next week will be that Lionus
didn't talk about the steam frame on W
show next week.
>> I should not talk about it next week.
>> Would mean that Lionus now knows
something about it.
>> That'd be so funny.
>> And therefore, it's coming soon.
>> I should I should do it just to mess
with them.
>> Mhm.
>> Once a troll, always a troll. What can I
say? Um, California wants to ban 3D
printers that can't detect when a gun is
being printed. This is California's
Firearm Printer Protection Act that pro
that proposes prohibiting all 3D
printers in the state from sale or
transfer unless they are equipped with a
certified firearm blueprint detection
algorithm by December 1st, 2029.
There's a lot of notes on this, but I'm
going to go ahead and digress for a
second here and go, what the actual
certified is a certified firearm
blueprint detection algorithm? Does set
algorithm exist?
>> Can you print Warhammer models if you
have that algorithm? Um,
>> are you allowed to are you allowed to
create a law that says that unless it
has a hyperdrive, you're not allowed to
sell a Delorean? Like, what are we what
are we talking about here?
>> Yeah. Uh, I mean, we've also talked
about this in the past. I think it was
with New York or something where our
argument is like, I mean, you can just
drive them over the border. I think that
argument is a little bit tougher for
California. um but still absolutely a
thing.
>> Well, let's talk about how they think it
should work. So, the bill henes hinges
on functional geometric search which is
described as the ability to search 3D
models by their shape. A representative
from FSNA, the developer of a geometric
search tool, claimed that geometric
search is a mature technology deployed
at scale.
Um
>> ah nice. FNA recently announced a
strategic partnership with Palunteer.
They revolutionized 3D data analysis for
defense and commercial sectors.
Meanwhile, of course, they did.
>> Marleene Vaggalar, CEO of 3D mod model
repository,
stated that they had tried to implement
geometric search, notably FSNAS
specifically, and had removed it as it
was not useful for our community.
Okay.
Um, there is an exception for machines
manufactured specifically for printing
props. So, they'll allow you. So, okay.
So, they're going to use geometric
search to tell if it looks like a gun,
but it's totally fine for it to look
like a gun as long as it's a machine
that's for printing a prop. But if I
mean like riddle me this, Luke,
when Shinszo Abbe was assassinated,
[laughter]
what did his gun look like? Would a
geometric search
>> it? No.
>> Have brought that up?
>> No, it wouldn't have.
>> It was a It was a plank of wood with
some pipes on it.
>> Yeah. And all duct taped together.
>> I mean, that's kind of gun looking,
actually, now that I look at it. No, but
you've printed in different se sections
>> like
>> so those are just metal pipes.
The the the the the one thing is just
literally a board.
[sighs]
The handle is just a handle for
anything.
Yeah.
I feel like we're I feel like we're
losing the plot a little bit here.
>> Yeah. I think a lot of people
overestimate how hard it is to make a
thing that makes things go bang.
>> I mean, literally, they were
manufactured hundreds of years ago by
just like Smiths.
Like, literally, if you know someone
named Smith, there is a nonzero chance
that they were involved in the
manufacturer of weapons at some point,
their family.
>> Yeah, that's pretty high chance. Like
actually though,
>> like it literally literally Joe Smith,
okay? Any Joe Smith
>> could could come from a from a heritage
of weapons makers, okay? Like I I
like I look as as a Canadian, I'm
probably a little a little less woo
firearms um than you know some of our
American viewers watching this might be.
just culturally it turns out we actually
do have some differences.
However,
it is pretty clear to me that you are
simply one does not simply legislate
um that people cannot make a tube with a
with a firing pin and a hammer and a
like you know rifling in the inside of
it and a piece of wood attached to it.
Like what are we even talking about? You
don't even need rifling for a shotgun.
>> That this is true.
>> And I'm pretty sure his was shotgun.
>> The AB assassin. Literally
>> literally.
>> It's literally a metal tube.
>> A metal tube.
>> Like
>> like are we going to outlaw Home Depot
[laughter]
>> because because people get lost in there
for hours. Like if you want to talk
about outlawing Home Depot, I'm open to
the conversation. The number, the amount
of human life that has been lost to
wandering the aisles of Home Depot may
actually be close to the amount of human
life lost to firearms.
Obviously, I'm joking. Clearly a joke.
But the point of the joke is just to to
illustrate how how silly this whole sort
of argument is that that we should ban
something that can that can print a that
can print a shape that can ultimately be
turned into a firearm. Like I just
>> someone named Kirkland Signature in all
caps in in full plane chat said I can
build a firearm right now in the next 4
hours from the hardware store. You can
probably do it in less time than that.
That probably includes driving to and
from the hardware store, reading a book
about how to make a firearm from the
hardware store,
>> and to [laughter] be clear,
>> and making the firearm.
>> Neither of us are promoting, hey, you
should go 3D print a firearm right now.
But it's just the crack down on that
will cleave a lot of cool things and in
my opinion is going to solve nothing.
>> And this is this is the same thing. We
talked about it last time. You're not
going to stop people who actually want
to do this. First of all, you can just
drive them over the border cuz it's not
the entire states that are doing that.
And then secondly, it even notes it in
here. These algorithms are not going to
be able to catch it all with the ways
that you can do removals of different
things in 3D printing. You could tie in
parts of the parts that you actually 3D
print when you're 3D printing a firearm.
Um, and
>> not all of it is 3D printed. That's a
really good point.
>> And you can just tie them into other
structures and then just break them
after you've printed it. And then you
still have it. You will not stop that. I
can like guarantee you will not stop
that. So they're it's what are you
actually accomplishing?
Practically nothing. So it's just it's
just it's just annoying for people. It's
just tying companies like Palanteer into
3D printer sales, which is like can we
not? Um it's it's just I don't know.
It's uh it's a waste of time and energy
and it's just completely going to be
ineffective.
So, I don't know. That's
>> dude.
>> Notably, [clears throat] 3D printing
firearms is already illegal in
California. So, basically, we're just
trying to
I don't know, maybe maybe the maybe
where it's coming from is they're
looking at how I guess somewhat
successful building printer firmware
that prevents it from printing money,
printing counterfeit money was. Like I
remember being in high school and I had
a I had a friend in high school who uh
printed like $5 Canadian bills and had
some success passing them off as real
ones just cuz he was he was one of the
first ones to get like a highfidelity
color printer back when they didn't have
those safeguards in them.
>> It wasn't super common. So, so they're
maybe they're looking at how those
safeguards I think, you know, at least
prevented random, you know, grade nine,
grade eight kids from from printing
these things and and they're trying to
trying to replicate that success uh
across firearms. And it's like I I I can
kind of see the logical thread that
connects those two things, but
man, this is a this is a way more
complex problem to try to solve that
literally I don't think can be solved.
Like float plane chat is going with all
the ways that people could just get
around this like just print some big
thing
>> endless.
>> Like you you you brought up print some
big thing and break it away. Or the
opposite of that, print many small
things and glue them all together
because it would have no way of knowing
what you're going to do with a given
hunk of plastic. And I understand it
like there's some people in the chat
that are like, "Well, there's so many
school shootings. We have to do
something." It's like,
>> "Yeah, but what percentage of school
shootings are actually with 3D printed
weapons? The problem is that people can
get like weapons of mass killing
regardless like it's not 3D printed
guns. It seems it seems like a what's
the what's the what's the term? Not red
herring, but just that like a
distraction. What's the
>> Isn't that red herring?
>> Sort of. It's in a different context.
>> It stands out, I guess. Um I'm not sure,
but I know what you're trying to say.
>> Yeah. Somebody somebody tell me tell me
what it's called. Straw man. Yeah, straw
man. That's the one.
>> Raiden 428 in flip plane chat said, "Not
sure this law is intended to actually
work. It's for politicians to say they
have done something." And I think that's
one of the reasons why we're kind of
frustrated about it
>> is like it's uh it's like a a political
signaling tactic which
>> it's just garbage and going to be really
annoying for people and again
>> involve things like Palunteer in stuff
that
>> makes even less sense than normal.
>> What if we had no Palunteer in our 3D
printers?
>> I propose a bill that there's no
Palunteer in 3D printers.
>> Yeah, that'd be awesome. That sounds
great.
>> It's just political crap. It's um
>> if you ran for office, I'd vote for you.
>> I'm serious.
>> I don't think I would last very long.
[laughter]
>> Well, I'd vote for you.
>> That's all I'm saying.
>> Thanks, man.
>> Because I think you wouldn't be down for
political crap. [laughter]
I appreciate that.
>> But I'd call it that. And in and in
Canada that it doesn't go super well.
>> Um
>> people get really upset.
>> Uh I don't know. Do they anymore? I'm
not sure.
>> How far away from Elbowgate are we?
>> I think we're pretty far from Elbowgate.
I think
>> I think that um
>> if you want to have a fun dive into
Canadian politics that was like an
actual thing that people actually cared
about was Elbow Gate. And you think
about like American things that have
gate on the end of it and are involved
with politics and then you then you look
at Elbo Gate and you're like, "Oh, this
is why a lot of Canadians pay more
attention to American politics because
the show is more fun and entertaining to
watch."
>> Sorry.
>> Which honestly living here sounds great.
If that's like the peak of of some of
the craziness, which I mean it isn't
anymore, but if it was, that would be
that would have been awesome.
I I'm I'm kind of down with the boring
sometimes.
>> There's a I'm just trying to find uh I'm
trying to find a a written
um transcript of it, but there's a
like Mark Carney has actually been kind
of a troll a couple at least a few times
and he's seems like he's got enough
charisma that he's mostly gotten away
with it. So, this is this is the one
that I was thinking of. So he like
someone someone made a comment about how
um Mr. Polyver once said about Mark
Carney that he's badly educated on
economics or something like that and
Carney's like, "Well, I take back the
positive thing I said about [laughter]
him." It was like really funny. Um it's
the kind of thing that in Canadian
politics, I feel like there was a time
when you probably wouldn't have gotten
away with that. Definitely not during
Elbowgate,
>> but he definitely got away with it. But
it was also really funny.
>> [laughter]
>> Hopefully you can rewrite that stuff.
The the the bailing out developers and
whatnot path he was on for a little bit
was
not fun.
No, Dan, I won't. Instead, I want to
talk about this.
>> What's this? A San Francisco Bay Area
landlord has sparked online debate
due to their plan to charge potential
tenants an extra $200 per month if
they're going to work from home in the
rental property. The 535 ft cottage was
listed with a base rent of 3250 a month.
First of all, oh my god. Um with
utilities and internet included. Oh,
well that's why
>> the base rent is already pretty high as
far as we can tell for the neighborhood
where averages are $24.57 a month and
around 700 ft.
On top of that, if the plan is for the
person to work from home, they wanted to
charge an extra $200.
Some folks online are calling the fee
insane and absurd and a way to squeeze
out additional money while others were
more sympathetic to the landlord arguing
that work from home could increase the
use of utilities. So our discussion
question here is
what the dillio um what's your take on
this? I mean, it's interesting because
uh like up here if I I believe it's
fairly common that if you start say
you're single and you're renting and
then you start living with someone, your
rent will often go up and the reason why
your rent will go up is uh often usage
of utilities and whatnot.
>> Yeah. If utilities are included in the
rent, then utilities more cost aren't
included
>> then this would just happen naturally.
because you would just be using more
utilities because you're at home more.
So, your cost would just go up.
>> Do you think there's any justification?
Because one of the other logics that I
saw
>> 200 bucks a month seems like a lot
though.
>> It does seem like a lot. There's $2,400
a year.
>> I don't know what their power costs.
>> Like, is this just the landlord going,
"Okay, well, clearly you are not, you
know,
your fuel that you're saving by not
commuting to and from the office means
you have more money. I just want some of
it. Like, do you think it's that simple?
>> But I What? This is California, right?
What is their power? Does that actually
just like
>> Oh, power is expensive.
>> Is it Is would it be that much? 200
bucks a month to run a a computer and
maybe some lights and whatever else. It
seems really high, really high for up
here.
>> But I don't I don't know.
>> People in chat are saying, "Yeah, yeah,
it would." Like 200 a month is is like
Oh, wait. People are saying not at all.
But other people are saying yes. No,
definitely. Speaking from experience,
yes. Crystal's Canadian.
>> Oh, yeah. Crystal.
[laughter]
[snorts]
>> Hm.
>> Power jumps between 25 cents to 50
cents. Wow. It's
>> really per kilowatt hour.
Wow. Or is it some some like weird
Yankee unit?
>> Half that is internet. But
>> I know I know you guys use kilowatt
hours. I'm just kidding.
>> Half that is internet doesn't make any
sense cuz internet's a fixed fee per
month.
>> Yeah. So that one should that one
shouldn't matter.
>> Is Yeah. What are you talking about? No,
Crystal's not Crystal's not Canadian.
>> What is she not?
>> I don't think so.
>> Am I tripping?
>> Yeah, my bad.
>> Yeah, we to go, Luke.
>> Sorry.
>> Um, honorary Canadian. There you go,
Crystal.
>> Yeah,
>> we we turned that we turned that frown
upside down now. Um, okay. So, so one of
the other logics that I've seen for this
justifying the landlord's action is that
almost anything costs more for
commercial use,
>> whether you're renting a tool. Hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
on, hold on, hold on. Give me Give me a
sec. I'm going somewhere with this.
>> Yeah.
>> So, there's a couple things that from my
experience do make business use more
demanding on anything. Um, people tend
not to treat things that they don't own
very carefully. And I see this anytime I
walk around in our warehouse. I see this
firsthand. company property does not get
I I will watch someone baby their
personal Steam Deck and then just like
huck their work laptop that is worth
many times what the Steam Deck is
because it's just not theirs. And I've
kind of I've kind of made my peace with
it at this point, but it doesn't change
that it is a fact that people do not
treat
corporate stuff the same way that they
do their own stuff. Now, that would be
true of any rental property, but
I guess the argument here is that if
you're using it way more, there could be
more wear and tear just in general on
the place because you're in there a lot
more and,
you know, opening things and closing
things and using things a lot more. Do
you think there's an argument there at
all? Because it's that's just one of the
other sort of lines of reasoning that I
saw. Oh, right. Sorry. And then and then
the other part of it is like anything
commercial does tend to does tend to get
an upcharge on it because it is being
used to make money and also it does tend
to get used more. Like my my drill at
home, my my personal drill gets used
very little because it's used by one
person in the very limited time a day
that he is not at work and actually has
the wherewithal to work on a project.
Whereas the drill that we have in the
workshop over there is far more likely
to be used every day because it's spread
across 50 people who might need to use
it. And actually we spend more hours a
day of our waking hours at work than we
do at home and not also eating or
sleeping or whatever else. So do you
think there's any logic there?
>> Uh I mean I think there's inherent logic
in like things for companies cost more
and and yada yada yada. Uh, also that
increased usage costs increased wear.
Um, I honestly think if this person is
honestly working from home,
>> uh, the increased usage of the space
isn't really that much.
>> You're sitting at your desk the whole
time.
>> That's where I was going to kind of come
at it from next. It's like, are you
really using it that much more if you're
sitting at a desk?
>> Yeah. It's like like the theoretically
you're just
>> kind of sitting there and like yeah sure
you can make an argue that like the
weight of the wheels and your your your
feet and whatnot is like a little bit
but realistically I think that's very
small compared to just occupying the
space and denying other people entry to
the space which is what you're
realistically paying for. You might be
running the HVAC more.
>> That that is a
>> but that comes that again comes down to
like mostly power
>> some maintenance
>> but also definitely also maintenance. I
mean
>> you've seen how often they break down
around here.
>> Yeah. Mine dude
>> like
>> often.
>> So
>> depending on whether that's something
that's included is as part of it and we
don't know that. I haven't actually
looked at the listing. The power thing
though, like I don't I don't remember
the various agreements that I paid over
time. I think usually power was not
included, but this was also pre-work
from home, precrypto mining at home, pre
lots of those types of things. Um,
>> Struggy asks, "Do y'all not do security
deposits for rentals?" This argument
makes no sense.
>> Still makes sense.
>> It's complicated, right? like security
deposits um do exist up here but on both
sides I feel like there is a lot of
asery that um that takes place around
security deposits. So I would not
consider from either side. I would, as a
renter, I would not consider getting my
security deposit back to be a guarantee.
And as a landlord, I would not consider
um
getting the security deposit to cover
renter damage to be a guarantee. I I've
seen so many horror stories both ways
around security.
>> I've seen the security deposit be way
less than the renter damage. I've also
seen people who leave places just
immaculate
um have land owners try to take their
whole deposit. It's just like, bro,
>> yeah, I've seen horror stories both
ways, and it's [clears throat] so much
work and so much expense and so much
time to rectify it with a jerk on either
other side of the of the transaction
that [snorts]
I I still think it's a valuable
conversation. That's what we're trying
to say.
>> So, someone in chat, I lost your name.
Sorry. Someone in chat linked this and
said, "This is the power."
>> That's a weird username. [laughter] I
>> actually kind of like it. I lost your
name. Sorry,
>> that is pretty good. Uh I don't know.
Yeah,
>> I don't know where it is, but this is
this is theoretically the power company
for the area. And they're talking about
their price hikes.
>> Damn, dude. You know what they should do
is they should build more data centers.
>> So from 2020 to 2025, it's had a 64% uh
increase, six times versus inflation and
stuff. So power there might be really
brutal.
>> Here's what I'm trying to figure out.
How exactly do we calculate inflation?
Because I feel like every single time I
look at this number, everything in my
life is way higher than it.
>> I They also don't agree. Well, yeah. Uh
and and the the the places that measure
it also don't agree. I I was trying to
figure this out a few years back. Um and
found that like even at the government
level, different parts of government
don't agree.
It's I was reading a really interesting
article about the one of the teams that
is tasked with measuring inflation
getting their budget and staffing
dramatically cut as part of the Doge
thing. So instead of going and actually
being able to check in person uh I think
it was groceries they had to rely on way
more limited data from like online
reporting that is not like that they
know is not accurate. And so,
>> didn't this happen to like job losses,
job market stuff as well? They let off
the team that checked out like new jobs
versus lost jobs, and they couldn't
accurately measure it anymore.
>> I think it was the head of that report
that got terminated for uh fluctuation
in the report, which by the way is a
totally normal thing cuz there's always
corrections, but it got corrected in a
way that made some people unhappy and
they lost their job.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> So, there's been there's been lots of
interesting stuff happening. It's been a
We live in very interesting times. It's
been an especially interesting couple of
years.
As someone who, you know,
likes to read, there's been a lot to
read about.
>> That's about the only positive spin I
think I can put on it.
>> There has been a lot to read.
>> There's been a lot to read about.
>> I go through I I I do this with my news
consumption. I'm currently in a low uh
>> It's a good place to be.
>> Yeah. And then I'll get curious about
what's going on in the world. And I'm
like, oh my god. And then I, oh, we
should all be worried about this and be
talking about his stuff. And then I go,
oh yeah, that that doesn't really
doesn't really change anything.
>> I don't think I ever talked about this
on W show, but do you remember our trip
to New York?
>> Yeah.
>> And we went there for Fallon and uh I
was just marveling as we were sitting
there eating cheesecake
>> how normal everything felt.
>> Yeah. because when you're insulated
from, you know, whatever is going on,
it's easy to for things to just feel
really normal. Um,
anyway,
yeah, I'll resist going back to reading.
And to be clear, I'm not like completely
disconnected from the news. I just, you
know, the biggest part of it actually
has been just removing Google News from
my phone.
>> Yeah. I don't instinctively swipe over
there anymore.
>> Wicked smart.
>> And then yeah, stuff still shows up. I
get links from from friends or whatever.
I'm still in tune with a few things, but
it's just not as like constantly feeding
terrible things into my brain anymore,
which is which is good.
>> Unique username asks. I don't understand
what wasn't normal with the cheesecake.
The cheesecake was perfectly normal,
actually. Maybe even good. Um, but more
just like the contrast between
reading your phone and how many terrible
things are happening around the world
and how much
>> more bombs are dropping,
>> freaking out about them
>> and how if we just don't look at that
and we just go out for dinner and eat
some nice cheesecake
>> we don't actually like we don't actually
interface with it. and how if you if you
live in a news bubble, you can be
completely doomer everything is falling
apart. Um like like you can you can
overcorrect and if you completely
live in a bubble of I you know what I
don't want to know anything about any of
that you can completely think everything
is fine even if things are actually not
really very fine and just how how much
contrast there is between
news addicts and people who don't look
at it at all I guess was just the the
thought that I had. It was just an
interesting thought. Um, you know what
else is interesting? Windows 11 users
are getting a surprise new photo app.
Microsoft's at it again with the new One
Drive photos app. They uh install it
without any notice, prompts, or
permissions. It's not clear if it's
snuck in via Windows update or an update
for one drive. Uh Jordan puts note it's
on my work machine but doesn't appear to
be on Elijah's. And the appears as a
separate executable in the One Drive
program folder and cannot be removed
separately from One Drive. One Drive
Photos doesn't require a Microsoft
account to run, but functionality is
limited to displaying your local images
for sorting or editing. If you do sign
in, the app becomes a full One Drive
gallery and you gain access to AI
powered cloud search, which like Windows
recall can use OCR to read visible text
in photos much like the um
in order to find relevant results.
That's fascinating. One Drive photos
automatically scans your system storage
for photos and if you grant permission
can group similar faces that it finds in
your photos. Microsoft claims the data
isn't shared and that you only and that
only you can see the grouped faces. But
Microsoft claims a lot of things that
aren't actually true about its AI tools.
So take that with as much salt as you
can get your hands on. If you want to
remove one drive photos, you will need
to entirely remove one drive by going to
settings/installed
apps. Here, I'll show you guys how to do
it right now.
>> Yeah. Sweet.
>> How to remove programs.
You know, to Microsoft's Oh, apparently
I've already removed one drive. Well,
you'll find it there.
>> Probably did that when you was setting
our system.
>> Yeah. To Microsoft's credit, you can
remove almost everything now. Like you
can remove the camera app,
which is nice. I wish they wouldn't keep
reinstalling things,
but hey, this is this does still feel
like progress compared to
some points. And well, all right.
>> Yeah, except on if you're like a One
Drive subscriber because they shoved it
down your throat 37 trillion times. Now
you can't get rid of AI searching your
photos.
>> Yeah,
sorry, but I just [laughter] I can't I
can't quite give him that one. No, I was
trying really hard.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Which is valid. We should
try to when when companies do cool
stuff, we should try to
>> It's just It's become kind of a
tradition for there to be some
legitimately cool Microsoft news every
week. And this week, um, we just because
I only read the headline, I had selected
that one as my good news.
>> But but [laughter] as I went through and
I was reading the topic, I was like,
"Oh, this sucks."
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> but maybe it sucks a little less than
some things have ever sucked,
[clears throat] which [laughter] is
>> Speaking of things that would suck.
>> So, it's a broken vacuum cleaner.
[laughter]
>> Micro suck.
Just a little suck.
>> Micro suck. The world's smallest.
>> Hey, when you're me, everything's a
micro suck. Know what I'm saying?
>> A
minus.
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>> By the way,
>> we got an account.
>> Sorry, what's that?
>> We have an HS account.
>> Oh, do we? Okay.
>> Yeah, we're we're triing it out.
>> Oh, pretty exciting.
Uh, Light Fury Flip Plane chat said uh
when I mentioned my like some people are
getting screwed because they use one
drive and now they would have to
uninstall one drive blah blah blah. They
said eg my fiance uh who can't use their
university one drive for their PhD
because ethics approval is only for
university managed systems.
>> Oh wow.
>> It's kind of weird.
>> Yeah.
and a lot of
like I'm assuming if they're doing
processing and whatnot.
>> Yeah.
>> Offsite that Microsoft would be pretty
good about doing their like incountry
thing. Uh one of the big reasons why a
lot of schools and whatnot use Teams is
because a lot of schools have rules
where all of the data can't leave the
country. Yeah.
>> So if you use an outside service, it has
to be hosted within the country. So,
Microsoft can do things where your teams
will only ever call out to Microsoft
servers that are in Canada, for example,
if you're Canadian university.
>> U, but I I guess we don't know about
this system.
>> Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't think
about that.
>> It gets really tricky when it can look
through all your pictures.
>> Well, yeah.
>> What do you have pictures of?
>> In a lot of scenarios, you have pictures
of of stuff that you can't necessarily
have getting randomly searched by
Microsoft's AI. Um, EJC 1090 also said,
"Same with GovCloud stuff." Like, yeah,
>> I have some cool pictures. Do you want
to see them?
>> Sure.
>> I'm going to send them to Dan.
>> Here, hold on. This will take a second.
Why don't you do a quick topic?
>> Sure. Um,
missing underscore and an innocent. Uh,
let's go here. We're going to skip the
title. I got to get used to doing that.
A tiny typo turned into a nightmare when
Wisconsin police hunting for a kick
messenger user named Fouse_Row_D.
Two underscores is the key point there.
Accidentally obtained the records for a
different user. Fouse row dah one
underscore leading them to the wrong
person. Halifax area man named Brandon
Clay uh in a seam investigation. Not
something you want to get [laughter]
wrongfully tied up in. Uh claim uh was
con convicted and spent 18 Oh, he
actually did it. Oh my god. Uh claim was
convicted and spent 18 months in prison
despite investigators finding no
evidence linking him to the crimes.
>> Crazy.
>> The username mixup wasn't discovered
until Clay was preparing to appeal his
conviction. The conviction was
eventually overturned and the court
found Claim factually innocent. The
appeal board declared he should never
have been charged, let alone convicted.
Oh, and you spend a year and a half in
jail. That's enough to wreck your life.
>> Yeah.
>> Like hard. Relationships potentially
over job very likely not able to be gone
back to.
>> Wow.
>> Uh oh. Are they not? Oh, wait. Hold on.
Um, thanks Dan.
>> Two, three, and four are fine.
>> And then hold on. Hold on. Let me uh do
something real quick here.
>> Goodness. I'll go through some
discussion questions while you guys
figure this out. Discussion question.
What safeguards should exist to prevent
law enforcement from acting on
potentially unreliable digital evidence?
Well, dude, we are not the right people
to answer that. Um, man, ideally they
would have like seen
[sighs] seen the difference somewhere.
How when he originally got convicted,
how did they not like
figure this out? That's actually crazy
to not have noticed. U, how should
courts evaluate evidence that comes from
online identities, usernames, and other
digital identifiers? man, we're asking
some like pretty high level legal stuff
that not gonna not equipped to answer,
especially on the spot live on a show.
Um, but maybe they should like make sure
I mean I've had this problem with uh
login before. I remember we we had a
login like when you're submitting a new
app to the app store um they will log
into it and check out how your app works
because they're trying to see if it's
okay to go on the app store or not. You
have to provide a login for them to do
that. uh for float plane in the past. We
did that. I don't remember if it was
Google or Apple. I think it was I think
it was Apple, but I genuinely don't
remember which it was. And they mistyped
um they they did like float plane and
but plane was P L A I N or something
like that. And they got the domain wrong
and they couldn't log in and they're
like your app can't go up. We can't log
into it. You're trying to do bad things.
And we were like or you could just copy
and paste the
>> Why would you ever not use copy paste
for a login? So, like
>> that's crazy in in stuff like this,
knowing how many different usernames
there can be for different things and
knowing the slight variance in usernames
that can exist,
you know, maybe they never deal with
things in a way that you're typing it
in. Maybe they just have to copy paste
all the time. I don't know. Um,
>> all right, Dan.
>> Yeah,
>> go ahead.
>> Oh, he's working on it. He's cooking.
>> Okay. Ready?
>> I have decided to retire and pursue my
true passion.
>> Nice. which is converting outdoor
children's playhouses into chicken
coops.
[laughter]
That
>> is the blurriiest photo. There we go.
>> Uh so this was a little playhouse that
Ivonne found on Facebook Marketplace.
>> That's a cool project.
>> And um we went and picked up some wood
stain and some plywood. And my kids make
funny faces when I take pictures of them
now, which is very helpful. Thank you,
my kids. Um, that's my son staple
gunning in some leftover vinyl crap that
we had lying around. You can actually
see the little the nesting boxes behind
him. Uh, you can also see the kind of
jerryrigged holders that I made for the
uh the perches. Um, Dan, do you want to
show the perch shot with the chickens on
it? We didn't mean to adopt chickens. It
was it was unintentional.
>> We did this fun thing that I think I've
talked about where
>> of course they're both there. You get
some incubated eggs and you get like a
little incubator for them. And you get
this like viewer thing that you can look
inside and see the the eggs developing
into little chicks and then you get to
raise the chicks and you can kind of
hand feed them and play with them. And
then you just kind of give them back
when you're done. And then something
really unfortunate happened is the kids
named them.
>> Yeah. And uh I discovered [laughter]
which I didn't know cuz on my hobby farm
chickens were just egg factories and we
didn't interact with them at all. But I
didn't realize that as part of their
being social creatures and flock animals
um they actually do recognize humans and
do form social bonds with humans and um
are actually highly highly interactive
>> social creatures and uh I we couldn't
give them away.
>> It's kind of the same way I ended up
with chickens when I was a kid. the
local grade one class did the same thing
and then they're like, "What are we
going to do with them?" Uh
cuz those also look like weird artisal
breeds that are like random types of
chickens, right?
>> Yep. Same thing. They're great. You'll
enjoy them. Um
>> they're stinky.
>> They are. [laughter]
My son took what is probably the least
flattering couple's photos photo of me
and Ivonne ever to ever to exist. Um,
but it's a great illustration of how
how fun the chickens are. I'm just going
to
>> Are you making it so like coyotes can't
get them and stuff?
>> Oh, you better believe it.
>> Or not easily at least.
>> Last thing I want is for coyotes to eat
our precious chickens.
>> The uh the concern is actually raccoons.
>> The concern is anything. Uh but yeah, B
with the staple gun, we're putting
hardware hardware cloth across all of
the like ingra you have to have
ventilation. I had to like I downloaded
like a whole bunch of chicken coupe
videos on one of my uh on my flight back
from
>> chicken coupe YouTube
>> was a long flight. I forget where I was
coming back from.
>> Let me know when you want me to put that
up.
>> Yeah, go for it.
>> People in chat, I'd be concerned about
Luke. [laughter]
So, anytime we lean over and say hi to
them, they like they come jump up and
they get all like they get all puffed up
and they get all friendly and
>> yeah, we can get that off the screen
now. Thank you.
>> One thing that was cool is you can like
train them too. We always had the like
the wheat seed like the the un mil
grain. You have a little tub of it and
you shake it and they all come running.
So,
>> yeah.
>> Crazy crazy animal.
So now I have chickens.
>> No, we both have birds.
>> I didn't I don't even eat eggs. I don't
like them.
>> I have chickens. [laughter]
>> Does Does boy eat eggs?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah, I expected so.
>> Oh, we'll consume the eggs. It's just
like I didn't I don't want I didn't want
more animals. It's like I don't have a
dog because I don't I don't have a a
life that is generally compatible with
like okay it's this time and they need
to do I need to do this for them. With
that said okay chickens
>> chickens are a bit more
>> a
>> lot of opportunities for automation.
>> Yeah. Chickens. Yeah.
>> And so I've been uh as part of my
vacation time I've been
>> home assistant chickens
>> playing a lot more around with home
assistant.
>> I finally got it to the point where just
because I just have not gotten around to
it. Not because it's particularly
difficult, but I've got it to the point
now where if Ivonne is at her desk in
the office for more than 20 minutes, it
just starts playing her playlist.
So, she can just chill and vibe and the
music will be on and if she leaves for 5
minutes, it will turn off.
>> Is this Odysius?
>> Um, no.
>> Okay.
>> No, this is just this is just basic
simple home assistant stuff that I was
never the one who set it up. So going in
after the fact in some ways can be more
difficult because you're trying to
figure out
>> what happened here,
>> what what exactly happened here and how
does all this work and it also you're
less incentivized because everything
that you need to work kind of
fundamentally does work. But I'm finally
installing those invelli millimeter wave
switches. Um so we can do proper
presence sensing pretty much anywhere in
the house. Um the Sonus integration is
actually really great. So, I'm finally
starting to play around with like, okay,
how can I start to finally freaking
automate some stuff around this house?
And I'm looking at like looking at the
chickens and going like, okay, now hold
on a second.
>> Oh, there's tons.
>> This could be very cool.
>> Most of it
>> you can get them. It seems like to the
point where you basically like once a
month fill up the food hopper and once
every week or two weeks like shovel out
all the crap.
>> Yeah, we could even theoretically have
done it with the budgies. the budgies,
the problem is mostly a cleanliness
thing. So, you end up needing to clean
it so often that it just doesn't really
make a difference, right?
>> Um,
>> so it's not as applicable, but with
chickens, they're outdoors, which helps
with that a lot.
>> Yeah.
>> Yep.
We um
think one of them might be a rooster.
>> Oh, no.
>> So, that's a bit of a up on our
part.
>> Good luck with that, man.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, well, it wasn't a mistake. It wasn't
a mistake. I just needed to make that
joke. We got them as eggs, so we had no
way of knowing what they were going to
be.
>> Are you going to deal with it?
>> Apparently, you can get collars for them
that prevent them from fully filling the
air sack to do the the full crow.
>> No, it's more about the violence.
>> Um,
I do know that they can be a little bit
aggressive with strangers.
>> Did you ever have a a rooster?
>> No, I never had a rooster. Oh, wait.
Yes, I did. That's a lie. Um my my my
pet chicken. Okay, so this is
complicated. Before the hobby farm, I
ended up with a pet chicken named
Henrietta. She was white. She was a
rooster. Uh we found that out later. And
so she started
>> She was a rooster.
>> Yeah. She started crowing in the
mornings and I had to give her away to a
nice farm that I was assured would not
eat her. She was certainly eaten. Um,
but anyway, the point is, yes, I have
owned a rooster and I would hold her
like this like a baby and pet her and
she actually loved it. It was uh it was
it was pretty great. [snorts]
>> Nice.
>> And then I didn't have her anymore
because she was a boy.
>> Yeah. Mine was called Mrs. Snooty, as I
called her.
>> Mrs. Snoody. So, you also named your
rooster a boy name.
>> Is this a thing we have in common?
>> Well, I mean, when you when you have
them young, like they don't you don't
know you don't know what they are. And
so, it's like, oh, well, they're all
women. And then this one is evil. But um
>> I see.
>> Yeah.
>> Or snooty.
>> They wanted to protect Well, he wanted
to protect his girls
>> and you know, you get near it and the
thing was just crazy. It would attack
you. It would uh
>> I have heard that. I have heard that
about some of them, but it was not my
personal experience, but he didn't have
any ladies to protect.
>> Uh so yeah, I had about 13 and so you
know, he had his flock. Um, so,
uh,
you know, we dealt with ours. Yours went
to a different farm. We We
>> did that ourselves. Uh, great tasting
bird, I'll tell you that.
>> Right. Nice. Yeah.
>> Uh,
>> so you had to eat your pet, too. So, we
do have that in common, then.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think I think people don't
get to own animals unless they've eaten
them before.
They
>> That's very strange.
>> I I think I could I think I could
understand what you're talking about at
all if you said it the other way.
>> Yeah.
>> Like people shouldn't eat animals unless
they've you know
um but they they shouldn't [laughter]
own animals in I'm going to turn off the
producer camera. Uh why don't
>> put Dan back away. [laughter]
There's a bunch of people in chat view
like hamster [laughter] and cat.
>> Actually, we have the original joy of
cooking that has guinea pig in it.
>> Oh my god. Old Jo old joy of cooking
freaking toms are freaking crazy. All
the recipes for brains and stuff like
>> Oh yeah. This thing is is thick and it's
crazy.
>> It's wild. You get old joy of cooking.
YOU'RE LIKE WHAT WAS THE JOY IN EATING
ANY OF THIS? [laughter] I HOPE THERE'S
JOY IN THE COOKING of it. There's a
little drawing of a guinea pig. It's
like [laughter]
I'm putting this book away. You don't
know what food is.
>> Oh boy.
>> Oh, I found some good news about
Windows. Windows 11 now allows you to
adjust your trackpad's rightclick zone.
A feature that Mac OS doesn't have.
>> Way to go, Windows. Way to go.
A genuinely, as far as I can tell, just
good thing.
>> Nathan's note from creating the notes
for this. I didn't know this was a thing
at all. I've always just done a
two-finger tap for my right clicks. Get
out, Nathan.
>> Gross.
[laughter]
I mean, I I I can be I can be a
two-finger tap guy sometimes, but it's
not as good for when you're two-handing
it.
>> Icky.
>> I mean, you you're very judgy today.
Have you noticed that?
>> Not even knowing it's a thing. You're
very judgy today.
>> Good.
>> Global PC shipments dropped 4% in Q2 of
2026. This is the first drop since 2024.
This is in the in the throws of the
memory crisis. IDC predicts that
shipments will decline 11.3% for the
full year and Q4 could see a drop of 20%
year-over-year. Uh, okay. Oh, the next
note says this. The blame is squarely on
massive hikes in DRM and NAND pricing
due to the demands of AI data centers.
Our discussion question is [cough]
[clears throat]
from Lionus.
It took this long.
>> Yeah, if anything, honestly,
>> I what? So, what what
>> that's crazy.
>> How did it take this long for because
everyone I talked to at like Computex
was like, "Yeah, yo, everything's
tough." But that's that's the enthusiast
space, right? So, it took this long for
sales to decline in like Lenovo laptops,
like the HP desktops at Best Buy or
whatever.
>> I mean, to be fair,
>> there's a big
>> in the IT space.
>> Yeah.
>> A lot of people had pre- purchased
things.
>> Um, like it's pretty common. We did this
to a certain degree. We had pre-
purchased some laptops. There was a lot
of push back internally against us doing
that in the past. Um, but we we got some
amount of them pre- purchased.
>> I mean, even inventory can be on like
you can sign a contract for what you're
it's going to be shipped over.
>> To be clear when I say there was a bunch
of push back. They had good reasons. I'm
not I'm not trying to do that. U they
they had very good reasons and there was
no way any of us could have seen these
price hikes coming. So, like their
reasons made a lot more sense when you
don't have, you know, you can't tell the
future.
>> Dropped a link in here. Oh, sorry. I
thought you were done.
>> Go ahead.
>> Oh, no. It's just basically like, and
that's been floating us for a little
while, but people are going to run to
the end of those stocks or run to the
end of those pre-aggreements and then
things are going to slow down. I think
>> Jordan dropped a link in here. Is a
profitable.com?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> What is this?
>> This website's pretty cool.
>> No, everyone's broke. Sorry. What am I
looking at here?
tracking the spend and revenue
estimations
>> of Frontier AI companies July 2026.
>> That is a really fun line right there.
>> Yeah, it's pretty cool.
>> So, are we going to are we going to
watch a million dollars be spent on AI
right now?
>> Technically, it's an estimation, but
yeah, we we are. So, it took you It took
you two chips, I think. Pretty sure it
was two chips to spend a million dollars
on AI.
>> I'm still spending, baby.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, okay. What else am I looking at
here?
>> Total industry revenue 769 billion,
which is a lot of money.
>> Yeah.
>> Unfortunately, it's not as much as total
industry.
>> The other fun part of that is as you
scroll down, you'll see the the red and
and green bars, and you'll also notice
when it starts to flip. Oh, so the big
investors
are not seeing the returns on their
spend.
>> Amazon being so high up on spend is was
a little surprising to me when I looked
at this. To be honest, I'm surprised
that Amazon is more spend than
Microsoft.
>> I hate that a company that spent a
billion dollars on AI,
>> you can barely even see it.
>> Doesn't even register.
Meanwhile, the shovel vendor.
>> Yeah. And it's interesting as well that
like
>> all the shovel vendors, that's where
they all everyone it's all about the
shovels.
>> Honestly, they should really try to get
SKH High and Samsung and stuff like that
in here. Um, but yeah, it's mostly
Nvidia. Like when you look at it, even
Micron is like actually way lower than I
expected. Um, like like be more to the
right and then scroll up and you'll see
another column there.
>> Oh yeah. Total loss.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow. So like Amazon's down $39
billion, but then when you scroll down
and look at the green ones, they're not
that high. Except for Nvidia,
>> these are unfathomably.
>> Like obviously 8 to9 billion in in
profit is incredible. But then you look
at 288 and it's like whoa.
>> Earned since page load. Hold on a
second.
All right.
That's crazy. This is crazy, too.
Disclaimers. The AI economy is circular.
Google funds Anthropic. Anthropic runs
on Google Cloud. Amazon funds anthropic.
Microsoft co-invests with OpenAI. This
means aggregate industry figures double
count some revenue flows. This site is
one person's best effort on an honest
picture, not a financial audit. If you
have better sources, please reach out. I
want to improve this site as much as
possible every day. This is such a cute
little project.
>> No, it's awesome. And that's that's the
reason why I gave the caveat at the
beginning of like it's an estimate or
whatever is they're doing the best they
can, but it's you can look into their
sources and like
>> it feels like they're doing the best
they can. Like it's uh this person does
seem to be actually trying, which is
cool. It's a cool site.
>> Want to pick one?
>> Sure.
What do we got here?
>> Pick your poison.
>> Yeah. Uh, it appears Reddit is forcing
mandatory account loginins to access its
desktop site. Uh, the popup
>> gives [screaming]
gives users only two options. Get
started or I already have an account.
There's no obvious way to dismiss the
popup and keep browsing. The change
follows Reddit's plan to require login
on old Reddit to curb scraping and bot
traffic, but the restriction may be
expanding to new Reddit as well. Before
we get into discussion questions, this
feels like the opposite side of the coin
or the other end of the spectrum or
something from a bunch of companies
doing massive layoffs and then saying
that it's because they're replacing the
people with AI and then just not really
doing that or then hiring more people to
fill those roles, but just not as many
people as they did before or just, you
know, different people or whatever where
they just as the company clearly just
wanted to do this layoff anyways, but
they're calling it AI stuff. So probably
their stock doesn't get tanked. Um this
feels like the same but opposite end of
the thing where they're like, "Oh, we
don't want it to get scraped, so we're
going to require accounts." They
probably really just wanted to
>> acquire accounts.
>> Yeah,
>> that's probably what they really wanted,
but they can blame it on some AI thing
and then everyone Well, not everyone,
but people will turn a blind eye.
>> I don't think this is going to stop AIS
from scraping it.
>> No,
>> of course not.
>> They just make an account.
>> Yeah,
>> you can't.
>> They'll just make infinite accounts.
There's agents right now that can make
accounts for this type of stuff. You're
not getting anything.
>> There's probably agents making accounts
right now
>> probably
>> like on mass.
>> Yeah.
>> So that they can build up history on the
account so that they can ultimately be
be sold for fake engagement. Like it's
uh
>> Yeah. This is clearly just
>> Reddit andying
taking yet another step towards being
generally less useful. I think I think
the best we can hope for is that this is
yet another stop on the long march
towards Reddit ultimately being replaced
by something else.
>> That's another thing I've been using a
lot less of lately is Reddit. And I
didn't use it much before and I use it a
lot less now, which is basically never.
Um I'll get linked things off of like
whatever. And I'll look at it and then
usually I go away afterwards. I think
I've told you that the best thing Reddit
ever did for me was um eliminating r/all
from new Reddit.
>> It's great. I use it so much less now.
>> Yeah,
>> because the only I think I've showed you
this before, too. The only way that I
can interact with Reddit is um through
this horrible horrible
like old Reddit interface on mobile,
which is just is so much work that I
just don't use it very much.
>> Yeah. Perfect.
>> Yep. See, that's actually great. I
agree.
>> That's great. There's no infinite
scrolling.
>> Nice.
>> It's like I can barely tell what any of
the thumbnails are.
>> The next button is not infinite
scrolling. I think that is actually like
it is a I it might not sound important.
It's a very important distinction.
>> It actually is. I never go to the third
page.
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> There's above the fold, below the fold,
and an infinite void of nothing that
matters.
>> Yep.
>> Yep. 100%.
>> Yep.
>> You're so right. Razer has been caught
red-handed telling the truth. Razer
touted their new frame sync technology
with the release of the Viper V4 Pro
earlier this year. They promised that it
synchronizes the mouse's sensor data
reporting directly with the computer's
USB polling cycle to minimize input
latency and improve tracking stability.
It sounded kind of hard to believe, but
Twitter user Pekno
has now verified I'm going to go with PO
has now verified the veracity of Razer's
claims using a homemade testing rig and
an oscilloscope.
Very cool. You guys might want to go
check this out. They are synchronized
apparently.
This is such a neat test setup. I
freaking love it. Yep, they're in sync.
Cool.
Good work, piano.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, piano.
[snorts]
[laughter]
>> I didn't get that either.
That's pretty good. [laughter]
[gasps] Dang.
>> All right, [laughter] it's time for
After Dark. Dan, hit me.
>> I needed some more warning than that,
[clears throat] but uh sure.
>> He's gone. After dark banner to after
dark can even unlock my phone.
>> Boop
boop.
>> It's time. More like Luke after go to
bed.
>> I'm tired.
>> Tired.
>> It's been a heck of a week.
>> Tired.
>> I made a chicken coupoop.
>> I'm excited for the weekend so I can
finish the the work I was doing during
the week. [laughter]
>> Oh, that's my favorite thing to do. I'm
always so excited. Uh, loved the first
two float plane life skills videos. Any
ideas for what the next one will be?
>> It'll be in a year.
>> Nope. It's uh it's Sammy's series, so
whatever Sammy says is is what we're
going to do. I enjoyed teaching the
swimming lessons. Um, what are some
other what are some other like basic
life skills? We did riding a bike and we
did swimming so far.
>> Changing [snorts] your oil. Ooh.
How to change
>> basic car maintenance. Like genuinely
basic car maintenance would be pretty
good. Oil and air filter
that you have to do every single time.
>> A cabin filter.
>> You got to know how to do that.
>> Those would all be that would actually
genuinely be pretty sweet.
>> How to how to do a basic
>> be soldering. I did I saw a suggestion
on I think it was the um the pool one.
Um
how to do like like wall hole patches.
>> That would be awesome.
>> How to hang a picture. What is the stud
versus like just putting it in drywall
would be quite useful.
>> Lionus the collective dad of flow plane
is what this is starting to now sound
like.
>> I mean there's a there's a YouTuber I
think he's called like
>> can't remember his name.
>> Yep. I know who you're talking about
though. Is he is his whole ship that
he's kind of like your dad just teaching
you how to do
>> ask your dad but it's him and he teaches
you how to do it.
>> That's pretty cool.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh
>> Kata says how to shave. Okay. Fun fact.
Uh when I reached adolescence I was not
living with my biological father and it
was complicated and so I never had
anyone teach me how to shave. I just
kind of made it up as I went. Dad, how
do I Okay, that's that's a really cool
name for a channel. Change a tire,
shave, tie a tie, jump a car. I'm proud
of you. You got this. [laughter]
>> It's lovely. It's so nice.
>> Peanut butter cookies. Install a
thermostat.
>> Wow. He really relies on like evergreen
kind of algorithmic.
>> Dad's easy pumpkin bread.
>> Well, the whole channel built on
Evergreen.
>> Yeah.
>> The whole concept.
>> Yeah.
>> Which is kind of sick,
>> man. Like none of these are getting
Mondo views anymore, though. Or is
>> is it just that
>> popular?
>> Yeah. Where are Where are the bangers?
>> It might be because it's evergreen
stuff. He's already done it. He did tie
a tie. He did shaving. He did unclog a
bathtub drain.
>> Right. The lowhanging fruit was done at
the beginning.
>> Yeah.
Jump start a car, put up a shelf, change
a tire, fix a running toilet. Yeah. So,
he did the evergreen stuff right away
>> and then ran out of the the easier
topics. He's still making content and
the evergreen stuff probably still gets
views. How to use a can opener. Okay,
listen. Gen Z. Really?
>> Cans don't come with instructions. What
am I supposed to do?
[sighs]
>> What if you have one of the side ones
versus like the top one?
>> Hey, man. I mean, it got uh it got
300,000.
>> Yes, I know. That's why I'm upset.
>> Yeah, not at him.
>> That's why this channel exists because
some people don't know.
>> How your money? Honestly, this one maybe
should have gotten more views if it's if
it's good. Uh, the vehicle's cabin air
filter. There you go.
>> Nice. Solid.
>> How to build a bench.
>> There's the filter replacement for your
uh refri your fridge water filter. Okay,
that's a um
that's a that's a shameful secret. I
have never replaced a fridge water
filter.
>> I've never had water in a fridge.
>> I just don't use it.
>> Oh. I it just it gets kind it's kind of
nasty tasting when you get a new fridge
because of all the plastic crap and then
I don't like using it and then the
filter gets bad and then I don't like
using it.
>> We are
>> and so I just don't use it.
>> Currently the Brida enjoyers.
>> Oh dude, Brida is goated
tap.
Damn it. Our place our place has haunted
pipes. So we we like genuinely can't
really do tap cuz sometimes it'll just
be hot no matter what you do.
>> Nice.
>> That there there is genuinely you can
leave it on one side for 5 minutes, it's
still hot. You turn that off, you turn
the other side on, 5 minutes, still hot.
>> I actually have a similar issue,
>> believe it or not. Not not hot, but like
tepid.
>> Like my cold water will just not go
cold.
>> Not be cold.
>> It'll be the winter.
>> That is almost all the time for us. And
then sometimes it'll be like genuinely
like ow hot to the touch and there's
nothing you can do about it.
>> I've also I've also had the inverse, but
that's much rarer where there just is no
such thing as hot water
>> no matter what you do. I I've talked to
my dad about it plumber and he was like
a little bit confused. But then when we
were doing the renovation, he found what
he thinks is likely at least part of the
culprit, which is that there's like no
insulation between the pipes
>> solid.
>> And that probably just goes through the
whole building. So the pipes are
influencing each other's temperature too
much. So the temperature of our faucets
might be getting influenced by
>> someone else running a bath,
>> whatever is happening elsewhere in the
building. Um,
>> yeah, very cool. Very, very awesome.
There's a lot of really bad things done
in the construction of our building, but
>> it is what it is. Hey Dan, Linus and
Luke, are there any more cat or cat
themed products in the plans? My cats
love the retro monitor and the cat desk
pet bed.
>> I think we're doing a little cute little
cat. What are they called? Those little
things that hang on the top of your
monitor. Anyone know what they're
called? A hipper? Is it called a hipper?
>> I have not a single clue.
>> I don't know. Gen Z's know.
>> I don't think I'm the right target
audience.
>> You're really not.
>> You would have to be a person who buys a
thing.
>> Does it Does it like block some of the
monitor?
>> Are they called hippers?
Um,
hold on. What's that? What is it? What?
Imagine having bezels thick enough to
hold something up.
>> Minifigures. Minifigures. Hippers. Is
this a thing? What am I looking at here?
Okay, there are bums on my screen now.
So, that's something.
Um, yeah. Yeah. So, like we there'll be
a little cat that'll hang on the back of
your
>> Oh, but there's the there are these
little guys.
>> Yeah, but not that. Like
>> they've No, these little guy those
little guys infested the the
infrastructure office. Oh, really?
>> Oh, yeah. They're everywhere.
>> Oh, yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah. Can't get rid of them.
>> So, I think we're doing one of those.
>> Um, and then Oh,
wait. Did we No. Did we Did we launch
the Great Indoors Collection? Is that a
thing on LT Store? Did I just leak a
thing?
>> I think you did.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Pretty sure you did.
>> Well, um, we're working on the Great
Indoors Collection. Tony's leaking it
more now.
>> Which is a which is a cute uh we're
going to have a hat that has like a cute
little cat that's like roasting a
marshmallow open over a fire, but I
think he's like sitting on a monitor or
something like that. And then we're
going to have a um something. We're
going to have a shirt and it's like very
indoor coated but like outdoor themed
kind of thing. And then uh I guess I'll
also leak that we're finally going to do
a clear plastic water bottle. And we are
we are partnering with the one the only
uh I forget their name right now, but
you know the one
>> Nene.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, that one.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> The I knew the answer. I was like,
"Wait,
>> I was surprised you forgot the name." So
I was like, "Is it something that I
didn't think it was?"
>> That special plastic thing.
>> Yeah. So we're going to have a we're
going to have a great indoors nail gene
bottle.
>> Yeah. So that'll be pretty cool.
>> Yeah, that's awesome.
>> Give me
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, me too.
>> Yeah, I would like clear would be pretty
sweet.
>> Yeah, it's Well, it's more like a dark
green
>> to go with the graphics.
>> Translucent,
>> but Yeah.
>> Yeah, sure.
>> But yeah, you can see the water.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Turns out
>> also want these cuz I'm assuming this is
going to do a lot better at the like
thermo stuff, but having a clear one
would be sweet.
>> Turns out Negene is actually super easy
to work with. So, we just like didn't do
it because we just didn't do it for many
years, but now we're going to do it. So
yeah, we just like reached out to them.
They were like, "Yep, basically you just
like have to put our brand here and then
everything else is kind of up to you. Uh
do you want to do uh this style of
printing or do you want to do this style
of printing?" And we just like make it
and deal with everything and we're like,
"Oh, wow." So that's why everyone does
this. [laughter] Yeah, it's great.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> I don't remember the question, but
hopefully that answered it.
>> Yeah.
>> Yes, I think that's okay. Uh, hey LLD.
Just restocking on some of the bits I
have lost since I got my screwdriver in
batch 4.
>> Oo, long time ago.
>> Lionus's hot takes are infamous. But
what's one prediction you're glad you
got wrong?
>> Um,
>> I don't know, man. It's so hard to
remember everything I've ever been wrong
about. I I actually really like these
questions, but I do hope that people
understand how much stuff is said
publicly by especially him. I think mine
is an incredible amount and he is
multiple times more than me. So like my
god, how do you remember all that stuff?
>> Were we talking a video earlier that was
done 12 years ago?
>> Yeah. Been kind of doing this for a long
time. [laughter]
>> You can't like ask these questions.
>> I was talking to my kids about it. I was
like, "Yeah, we've cuz they they asked
like why I don't do a video about this
or a video about that." And they were
like, "Well, cuz I did that one and I
did that one, too." And they obviously
wouldn't get the reference of Simpsons
did it because um they're not allowed
[snorts] to watch South Park yet. Uh
well, my younger ones aren't, and that's
who I was talking to. And um and I was
just like, "Yeah, it's um we we Sorry,
kids. the reason that these ideas are
really good. Thank you for your
wonderful ideas, video pitch ideas. But
um we can talk about something else
because realistically if you think of
something, we've probably already done a
video about it. Uh but that doesn't mean
that I necessarily remembered. I mean,
Luke and I have talked on the show about
watching old videos and like laughing at
them as though we are consuming the
content fresh. I mean, Luke had to watch
his video on DirectX12 and Vulcan and
SLI in order to learn about what
happened with all of that because he
couldn't remember a single damn thing.
>> There will be especially uh ones that I
didn't write. So, there will be like old
techies.
I forgot that I did a bunch of techies
back in the day, like a lot actually.
And
I'll I'll see one of them come up and
I'll see the thumbnail and I'll be like,
"What?"
And then I'll watch the whole video and
have like in that moment learned
everything I just said because I
remembered not a single word just
[laughter] like oh my god I because I
mean realistically that was half an hour
of my life 12 years ago or something
like of course I don't remember that but
like
>> now what do you remember from 12 years
ago?
>> Yeah. Um
>> at your job a random [laughter] a random
30 minutes of something that you do
every single day. Yeah. And then like
apparently it's being shown in like a
class or something and I'm just like
what the heck. I mean that that is sweet
but I don't remember it at all. Um
yeah, I'm trying to think prediction
we're happy didn't happen. Um I at one
point in time I wonder if I Yeah, it's
wondering if we made a prediction or
not.
>> There was questions.
>> Okay, I have one.
>> Okay,
>> I'm ready. Yeah,
>> I predicted that moving the W show
podcast to its own channel where we only
did the streams and nothing else would
be disastrous for its growth and would
take a long time to like recover from.
>> Yeah,
live viewers are super strong.
That's wildly good for us lately.
>> That's wildly good for us for years.
>> Years. Yeah. I don't know what the
is happening right now. [laughter]
It's
>> I don't think the WAN show suddenly got
more interesting. No offense to us.
>> You're wonderful.
>> It's stabilized.
>> You're wonderful.
>> It's not a spike. It's stabilized now at
155.
>> This is insane.
>> Where did all you guys come from?
>> Stop it.
>> I
>> stop it now.
>> I have no explanation for that. That's a
good one though.
>> Yeah, I got that. So,
>> that's a really good one. Like we
agonized over the decision of like how
to do this whole the WAN show is 50/50
owned by me and Luke thing, you know, do
we just leave it on the LD channel? Do
we have Dan create a report to split the
AdSense in the future whenever if that's
necessary? Do we put the clips and the
thing on the same channel? Do we do
this? Do we do that? How are we going to
do this to do it in a way that's like,
you know, that that means that by the
time Luke owns 50% of something, it
isn'ting worthless? [laughter]
and and we really didn't want to put it
on its own channel because in a lot of
ways that is just a chance of death. But
the community was like, "Bruh, I, you
know, I'm signing up for a live stream.
I don't want to watch the live stream."
And then get spammed with clips of the
live stream that I just watched for a
super long time. Uh, fair enough. Uh, so
we we split it off. And honestly, in the
first couple weeks, it was like,
>> well,
>> guess it's [laughter] over.
I guess we'll just keep doing it, but
it's like kind of [laughter] over. And
then, yeah, apparently it's not. So,
thank you very much. I appreciate that.
>> Yeah, we appreciate all of you.
[laughter]
>> I can't super Maybe chat can. I can't
super think of a prediction right now.
Like are more people watching on Twitch
too or is this just that YouTube
algorithm has finally figured out
>> what what show be and how it serve when
show
>> uh normal normal on Twitch.
>> Yeah,
>> at least within a
>> That's interesting, dude. Float plates
numbers.
>> How are there a thousand people watching
this on Twitch?
>> It's around 2,000 every week.
>> That's just like
gross.
Look at this gross website.
[clears throat]
It's It's just disgusting. And now I'm
looking at it twice cuz it's here and
also here.
>> The sad part is you're also making all
the YouTube people look at Twitch now.
>> Oh, sorry.
>> Yeah,
>> I'll do better.
>> Yeah,
>> man. I have not logged into the Twitch
dashboard in I think quite literally
years.
I don't miss it at all. I remember back
when I thought Twitch was cool, um
during the first LTX
>> Yeah.
>> at the Langley Events Center,
>> uh we couldn't get our stream key for
some reason
>> and I had to call that that guy that I
used to know at Twitch and he was out on
a boat. Um and he was like, "I literally
can't help you right now. I'm out on a
boat on the ocean." Uh but he's like,
"But I'll get someone who can help you."
and I got a random call from a random
number, which I don't normally answer,
but I picked it up and they were like,
"Um, I don't know like what you did, but
I'm here to give you a stream key."
[laughter]
And that was like one of the coolest
calls I've ever had.
>> That was awesome.
>> Hello, this is Twitch. [laughter] Please
stream to this address. Do you have a
pen and paper?
>> Yeah.
>> Yes. Modern video technology.
>> Sometimes it's pretty good to be us.
>> Yeah.
>> Every once in a while I'll have There
was also a lot of the like original, not
not necessarily original, but a lot of
the pre-Amazon
>> OG,
>> they were cool.
>> Yeah,
>> Twitch used to be really cool. I'm not
super into Twitch anymore, but it used
to be really cool.
>> All right, Dan, hit us.
>> Water.
>> Big jug. Okay, let's see. Luke, you
recently talked about retiring. Do you
think when Lionus takes a step back
that'll be a signal for you? Also
replacing my OG backup uh backpack. No,
backup cuz that'll be my diaper bag.
Back backpack.
>> Backpack.
>> Backpack. You meant to say backpack.
>> Oh, your OG. That is an amazing use for
the OG backpack.
It would be a great diaper bag. I've
never really thought of that.
>> The OG backpack.
>> Yeah. So, he's getting a commuter for
himself to to daily cuz the OG is going
to be his diaper bag now.
>> Interesting. Okay. Yeah, it would be a
sick diaper bag because you got like
kind of your like stash thing. Instead
of using it as a water bottle thing, you
could put like your just to keep it
separate and easy to access. You put
like your wet wipes in there and then in
the front you can put any of the like
little like bits and pieces and in and
bits and bobbins that you need and then
you just got like the big container of
holding that you can put all that crap
in. If you had like a little like
changing mat that would slip perfectly
into the laptop sleeve like I never
thought of that. All right, cool. Anywh
who carry on. Yeah, I don't think so.
So, the question was basically, do you
think when Lionus takes a step back
that'll be a signal for you? It kind of
depends when that happens, I guess.
>> But I'm older than him, so like
realistically I will retire before him
and so what his life ends because I
retire.
>> Yeah. No, not really. But it also it
also depends like how late you decide to
retire though.
>> Um, it also depends what your retirement
actually looks like,
>> right? because we've talked about like
one of the reasons that WAN show is now
going to be a separate entity is if one
of us departs Linus Media Group or
retires or does whatever it's like a
it's like a it's like a pact. It's like
a it's like a a formalization of okay
but the WAN show lives on and there can
never be any reason that the WAN show
doesn't live on especially if people
actually watch it which they do. That
helps so much. You don't understand.
[laughter]
>> W show forever. Wan show. A thousand
years. A thousand years. WAN show.
>> That was great. Thank you.
>> Yeah, that was great. Appreciate you
all. Um, so so with that in mind, like
you know what what what does retirement
actually look like?
>> Does retirement do mean doing a podcast
every week?
>> I would think so.
>> Maybe.
>> Like I I think I could
>> I don't think my retirement is going to
be like super real.
>> Yeah. I I I could see myself having a
version of retirement.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm not saying, oh, I'm gonna got a nose
to the grindstoneone the rest of my
life, but like
>> but there's no way that
>> I'm going to want to do something. I
don't think
>> I don't know what the heck we talk about
in 50 years, but we'll find something.
Like I mean realistically I'm I'm I'm
well ahead of retirement age and I've
already like joked about buying myself
my retirement present which funnily
enough is just another job. [laughter]
>> Yeah.
>> Like Smash Champs is the thing that I'll
joke to people that I bought myself.
It's my retirement gift to myself as a
badminton club. But like
>> it's literally a functioning business.
>> I'm always going to want to do
something. Um, and I I really really
really like
uh progressing things. Is that a way to
say it?
>> I think so. Yeah.
>> Improving things.
>> Um, so I'll I'll I'll probably find a
way to get myself involved with
something here or there. Um, and that
does not necessarily hinge on Lannis
retiring or not. And again, the what
does retirement mean is so I could see a
version of retirement for you where you
still make tech videos. Oh, I could see
that 100%.
>> So, like I [sighs]
>> I this it's it's you actually asked a
very nuanced and interesting question.
[laughter]
>> I I love the way Jenna Marbles did it
where she just basically went
>> vanished.
>> I am of a different era.
You know what? Thanks for everything.
Goodbye. I loved that. I thought it was
so cool. I thought it was
>> crazy how effective it was.
>> So classy.
>> Yeah. Um, I love the way PewDiePie did
it. I'm retired, by the way. it. I
just still make videos. Um, I'm not
retired at all.
>> They're just really now only the things
that I want to make and they're going to
be really random.
>> Yeah. Um, I love that, too. Um, I I love
what Matt Pat's done where he's just
like, "Well, I sold theorist. I no
longer uh make theories,
but [snorts] that's just a theory." Um
actually I you know I work on like he's
doing some advocacy in Washington around
like uh streaming and like uh internet
video legislation and stuff like dude
actually they're they're they're both
still doing stuff Steph and Matt. Um
trying to think of like prominent other
retired people. I mean, Ray William
Johnson
um seems happily retired uploading
copious numbers of YouTube shorts.
>> Is he really? I mean, that makes sense.
>> Yeah, he he
>> of anyone from that era, that makes the
most sense for him to be doing shorts.
>> He became an absolute nobody and then
had a huge resurgence in shorts. Okay,
what is this? Goodbye.
>> Did you Did I just get click baited by
Ray William Johnson?
>> There we go.
>> What even just happened there? What am
I? What am What is happening? How do I I
hate the interface for this damn thing?
Okay. When is this from? Okay. Yeah,
this is from the 12th of June. He's
still very much uploading shorts. So,
there you go. Retired. I don't know.
Does a Does a content creator ever
retire? Really? I mean, Too Mad retired.
Rest in peace, Tumad.
But beyond that, like
[laughter]
what do you ding for? What does that
even mean?
>> All right. Well, it's been a good show.
Um, thanks everyone for your support.
>> Oh my goodness.
[laughter]
Oh my goodness.
>> Outdoor Boys. Yeah. I mean, but he's
like he Okay, so Outdoor Boys, he was a
lawyer and then he was an outdoor
YouTuber and maybe still a lawyer. I
don't know. And then now his his son is
making content and he shows up on his
son's channels sometimes. Maybe all the
time, maybe sometimes. I'm not sure.
Um Tom Scott sort of retired and then
just came right on back.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I ran into him. I've I've
run into him at two industry events in
the last like few months. Um, what
what's it what kind of what kind of
content is he doing in his retirement?
>> I think it feels pretty similar to what
he used to do.
>> He's just he doesn't care about the
performance.
>> Look at this anymore.
>> Is that is this is this AI?
>> Oh, no. It's just a still from a video.
Okay.
the Yeah, I think that's very
>> across Europe because we were talking to
him at at Open Sauce and he's like, I'm
really concerned about the performance
of the next couple shirt all the time
>> and he's like, oh yeah,
>> how about that? He goes, why don't we
notice that
>> it's Homer Simpson style? He he he's
wearing the same
>> Yeah,
>> even the underlay. He sits at the same
table and it looks like a dining room
table and he does see today roll talking
about the video he's doing and then he
goes to a place across Europe somewhere
looks at a thing. The videos are like
weird and strange like uh his one about
the bridge there um is like
no one would make that video in their
right mind apart from Tom Scott,
>> right? But that's kind of the mark of a
Tom Scott video.
>> That's awesome. Yeah, absolutely. But
even he's like a little concerned about
the performance of them, but he cares
less now.
>> Every content creator is concerned about
the performance of their videos. So, I
don't want to make that sound like
that's a unique to Tom Scott thing right
now. Long form is
>> long form is hurting.
>> He's not really caring, if you know what
I mean. He's like, uh,
>> and he cares a lot about not attracting
an audience that he doesn't want and
yada yada yada, which is which is cool.
And that's something that you can do if
you retire as a content creator who
still makes content,
>> just makes cool stuff that he
>> just do it for you. Yeah.
>> So, homepage, add ad. This is a really
good ad, though. You should click it.
Uh, we do get a bit of VOD stuff, so
that's kind of cool. Ew,
>> gross.
>> Ew. YouTube play. Okay. 52 million
people have played this. 52 million
people have played Whole.io.
>> Whole.io I always such a questionable
name.
>> Voodoo HTML 5 games. It has a store. Ew.
>> Whole input output.
>> Folio.
>> Mhm. Drag to move
>> program.
So it's just this.
>> It's like this the snake game thing, but
now it's uh that whatever the rolly
thing is. What is that name? Katamari.
>> Katamari. It's a snake game, but
supposed to feel more like Katamari. I
guess you're not big enough to eat the
police car yet. Now you are.
>> That's a fun concept.
>> Well, yeah, but it's just it's
>> Wait, there's no gradient to your
growth. You just grow all at once.
>> I don't know. It's just stupid. I
>> eat a bunch of cars.
>> I want to eat these people.
>> Yeah.
>> So,
>> you just jump up. I hate that. Why does
that bother me so much? Why wouldn't you
just grow a little bit of uh
>> This is literally slop. Actual slop.
[sighs]
>> You know why, Luke?
>> Way to go, YouTube.
>> I do, but it's up. It's so lazy.
>> It's so Yeah.
God, I hate that so much.
[gasps]
Okay.
>> Hello, Luke.
>> Hello,
>> Dan. And men who can't keep cables or
large socks in stock. Linus. get
freaking roasted. [laughter]
>> I didn't know that was here.
>> Lus retired last name. Linus retired
from keeping things in stock. Okay.
>> So,
>> I don't think he ever had that job.
>> Yeah. I overclock all the things,
>> I think.
>> I never keep them in stock.
>> No, I [laughter] You broke the bell.
>> I threw the bell across the desk.
>> Oh my god. Uh, if you hike in the back
country at all, what tech do you use?
And uh, do you opt to leave it at home?
>> Well, you don't have your watch. Did you
lose it?
>> That face says yes. [laughter]
He predicted it like a month ago when he
got it. He's like, I'm going to lose
this. I have [laughter] no idea where it
is.
>> Why is your water bottle upside down?
What have you been doing over there? You
can see how long it would take for
people to notice.
>> You have an upside down water bottle as
I understand this.
>> Does it have water in it?
>> No, but why don't you tell me if you
need more liquid?
>> I don't need more water. But
>> you managed to keep long enough to get a
tan, which is actually sort of
impressive for you. And you're managing
to hold it exactly behind your water
bottle so no one can see it when I'm
talking about your watch tan, which is
also impressive for you.
>> Easier to see it there.
>> Yeah. Look at that. He got a watch tan
and now he has no watch.
>> Yeah.
>> Huh. Okay. I suspect it's still at home.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> The most common time that it will no
longer get back on is when I take a
shower,
>> right?
>> Because so it's it's probably right next
to the sink in the bathroom. But
honestly, if anything, the fact that I
didn't even notice until you pointed it
out uh is why I lose it so easily, but
also why it's been living so long.
>> I've been very happy with it. Actually,
>> I'm going to do it now.
>> What? I'm gonna buy a Casio calculator
watch because I don't actually care
about my smartwatch, so I should have
something cooler.
>> Nice.
>> Buy it later.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Fine.
>> I will.
>> Good job.
>> Thank you. Or do it in incognito.
>> Dude, I actually
>> You can do whatever you want in
incognito.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. No one will know.
Well, Google will, but the stream won't.
>> All right, I'll do it later.
>> Unless he streams him doing that. Uh,
backcountry tech. What tech do you use?
Do you have to leave it at home? Uh, if
you leave it at home, you don't use it
when hiking in the back country. So,
that we're good there. Um,
>> I don't really back I mean I I think of
Okay, I'm Canadian, so I think of back
country as like
>> very back country,
>> the middle of nowhere.
>> What is your level of back country?
>> Like no internet.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'd never go there. there. I don't
want to go there. I like the internet.
[snorts] I'm an indoor boy.
Like to be clear, love me a good old
grouse grind, you know? Love that. Um I
mean I think I talked on W show last
week about getting lost in like the
woods behind that German hotel I was
staying at. Like I'm I'm down for like a
hike, but when I have no cell signal,
I'm like, well,
this is this is my compass. So,
>> our back country is terrifying.
>> Our back country is genuinely
terrifying.
>> Like there's there's bears there and
nothing. [laughter]
>> The like uh what did you say? What tech
do you use? The tech you need is like
bear spray.
>> Yeah.
>> And a satellite phone.
>> Yeah.
>> And like a gun.
>> Like Oh god.
>> Actually a couple guns. [laughter]
>> Probably guns that are not allowed to be
purchased. You have to like get them
from the north to be safe.
[laughter]
>> No, I mean there's there's Yeah. Did I
ever show the picture of the bear that
was in my yard on W show?
>> You can have a shotgun. Oh, you need
like one for each hand. [laughter]
Otherwise, you wouldn't look cool. I
mean, you could just 3D print the other
one.
>> Haha. Callax.
Yay.
>> I don't think I've ever actually shown
it on WAN. I don't know that I
necessarily should, but there's a
shotgun in Canada that you can buy that
uh has a folding stock. And I I I
remember figuring out exactly how it's
legal in Canada, and it blew my mind.
But it's small enough that you can you
can hipholster it.
>> Oh, that's kind of cool.
>> You could have you could have two
hipholstered shotguns.
>> That's crazy.
>> In Canada,
>> that's nice.
>> Legally,
>> that's crazy. Going to be hard to
conceal carry.
>> Yeah. You're just walking around like
you got broken.
>> It's not legal.
>> Same with heartbeats. [laughter]
>> Apparently lots of them cuz I'm dual
wielding shotguns for some reason.
>> It's always faster to switch to your
secondary than reloading.
>> They're going to gank me. We got
>> They're going to gank [laughter] me.
This pain. I need help. This bear is
going to gank me, bro. [laughter] Oh my
god. Someone's probably said that
>> the bear took mid.
>> What do I do? The Nexus is your car,
[laughter]
>> man. I keep feeding the bears with all
my friends going camping. [laughter]
>> Oh my god.
>> So, yeah, this is
>> Dude, bro, why are you ining? [laughter]
>> Yeah, we don't go outside.
>> Okay, Dan. Uh, I sent you a picture.
>> Okay.
>> Like, this is what shows up in my
suburban yard. I do not need to go into
the Canadian back country. Not
necessary.
>> I have to like crop this. I'm I'm sorry.
>> All right. Never mind. Wait a sec.
>> Uh here. Uh yeah. Yeah. Sorry, dude.
>> Do whatever you want to do. I don't
know. It's free country.
>> Uh yeah. I mean, I don't know. I
>> I love that Dan is cropping an image
that I sent him of a picture of my
screen.
Screenshots are so much work.
>> Yeah, I've I've taken like pictures of
this screen before and flow plane chat
will roast me and they're like, "Why are
you taking a screenshot?"
>> I'm not logged into anything.
>> Yeah,
>> it's just so much more work.
>> Yeah.
>> You ready, Dan?
>> No. Let's watch him work.
>> It's a It's a great question. I've
wanted to do a thing for a while now.
Um,
where I I look into like mesht mesh
meshtastic and use like the vehicle that
we're driving out as like the the node
and then the vehicle can have a really
sick antenna so that you could
effectively like connect
all that kind of cool stuff, but I
haven't got around to doing any of it.
Um, usually my primary tactic has been
to uh go out with a friend of mine who
has all those problems solved already
and then it's like, "Hooray, I'm the
passenger princess but hiking edition."
And then it's great.
>> Nice.
>> Yeah.
>> So, that was my yard. Um, that's
backount enough for me. [laughter]
>> We're not even in the back country.
>> This is like 1:00 in the morning. Um, my
son was having a sleepover and they
actually heard the bear shattering my
gate uh at the side of my house,
>> but didn't know that that's what the
noise was. They just like I don't know.
I don't know what they thought it was.
Um,
>> so yeah, that's pretty cool.
>> Yeah. All right. more.
>> Hey LDL, excited for the socks.
>> Jay Hman says, "Yeah, those chickens are
going to last a while."
>> The raccoons, do not try to fight a
raccoon.
Yeah, we know, Dan. It is really good
advice, though. [laughter]
Yikes. Question for Lionus. What's your
opinion on emotos such as Chirons all
the way to Starks, uh, with and without
the kids riding them?
Surons. Oh man. Okay. Are
>> there e ebikes, right?
>> Yeah. Um
I feel that the main issue right now is
just that we have a weird patchwork of
regulation around these things.
>> Much of which is not being enforced
because it's kind of stupid. And so what
we need is
we need rules that actually make sense
so that there is any chance whatsoever
of
um of adherence and enforcement because
right now it's the wild west and
something like this
that can do 50 m an hour
accelerating to more than half of that
speed in two and a half seconds.
Like you look at how much gear model
buddy here is wearing. I see kids all
over our neighborhood riding stuff that
frankly doesn't go maybe quite this fast
but goes
>> t-shirts and shorts
>> pretty fast. T-shirt, shorts, often not
even a helmet
>> ripping sometimes.
>> Um
like I I I don't I don't have a solution
to this one. This is this is a tough
one. This is a really tough one. Uh, on
the one hand, you know, is it very
convenient for me as a parrot parrot as
a as a parent, uh, is it very convenient
for me as a parent for my kids to be
able to just zip themselves off to the
in-laws place? Yeah, 100%. Um, do I
think that I could train my kids to ride
them in a safe manner? Yeah, probably
mostly. I hope. Um, is every kid
responsible enough to be in charge of
what is essentially a motor vehicle in
terms of its of its speed? Um, and its
potential for for user disaster? No. But
then on the other hand, going down a
fast enough hill, did I did I do 30 40 m
an hour on my pedal bike when I was a
kid? Uh, yeah. Could I have died? Yeah.
I But was I doing it all the time? No.
Because only when you had a really good
downhill could you do anything like
that. Emma and I had a conversation the
other day when we were walking around a
park and we saw these kids ripping
around. Uh, and I I I just we watched
them go by and then I looked at her and
I was like, is it the kids who are
wrong? Cuz like I'm I'm clearly trying
to reference like this sucks. Um because
there was there was two kids on one
scooter that was going really fast and
there was zero protective gear involved
and if they biffed
and hit their head, it's like
>> game over, man.
>> Seriously though, like they were going
fast enough that it's like this is major
problem time. Um, and people were
talking, "Oh my god, you have to have
your helmet on like a really terrible
Canadian tire pedal bike back in my
day."
>> Yeah.
>> That was not going anywhere near as fast
as these kids were going. Um.
>> Oh, it's scary.
>> And it's a scooter. I believe a lot less
in your ability to maintain control over
a scooter than a bike, personally. Um, I
we've also seen people rip around on
bikes, but I have more confidence that
they can control it over the scooter
thing.
Um,
more
da Winus Wuken Wan. Hello from Iowa. I
guess they all talk like that. They're
from there. What was the worst time a
device broke inexplicably of yours? PS.
Hi, Mom.
>> Um,
inexplicable breakage. I don't know
about the worst time, but the one that's
really grinding my gears right now is
the TV in my basement wreck room.
Sometimes cannot detect an input from my
PC.
It will detect other inputs.
It will
turn on and off. If I unplug it from the
wall, not just quickly. If I unplug it
from the wall, wait for the caps to
drain, and plug it back in, it'll work
again.
And it is it had it is I'm at the point
now where I'm considering replacing an
entire TV over like
>> an input problem,
>> an input issue, which drives me
absolutely crazy. That seems like a
crazy thing, especially when all the
other inputs work. And if I plug a
different device into that same input,
it will work.
>> Like all the troubleshooting steps. So
I'm I'm focused on the word inexplicable
in your in your message here.
>> This might sound absurd, but do you have
like a um
a few different devices. Yeah, that can
just sit in the middle.
>> Oh, I do have one that could sit in the
middle. I don't have one that is sitting
in the middle. I might have had concerns
about that. I can't remember why I did
it the way I did it because all the
other devices go through a little um
bloody hell who makes it a little Denon
switch or something like that. I can't
remember who makes it. Um and then the
PC goes directly into the TV, right?
because it uses the high-speed 4K120
input and this TV is a little bit older
now and not all of them are. I I I might
just get rid of it. Luke,
it's a 77 in. They're like 500 bucks
now. Like I I think I might just get a
different one and I could probably make
a video about it anyway. I'll do a short
circuit and I will put a TV on the wall.
Remember when I used to do that like
every two months?
>> That was a weird era for LTT.
It was It was probably also a weird era
for your house.
>> I think it might actually I think that
era might be coming again though because
the uh the family room PC is now like a
three fouryear-old OLED and my family
like I never really cared about it cuz I
was like whatever this is
>> that's where they watch all this stuff.
>> This is a tertiary TV in the house. It
gets used more than the other two
combined so I think I might upgrade it.
Um, the new Sony True RGB stuff looks
really nice. The LG G6 looks so good.
So, I might just have to do like a TV
roundup just so that I know which one to
put there. I like like any logical
person would do. Deploy the media
company to find out what the best TV is
so that I can make the right choice for
my living room and then everyone else
will benefit.
>> I was going to say you're theoretically
helping all the people's
>> That's the whole business model. Yay.
The LTT. It makes so much sense. We did
it. Now I understand.
>> He said the thing
[laughter]
>> he said the name He said the name of the
show in the show. [laughter]
>> Dude, he morbed all over that merch
message
>> and people stopped watching.
>> Community chat, whatever it's called.
>> It was nice while land show existed.
>> What are they again?
>> Com comms.
>> Comms check out message time. Why do I
have community stuck in my head? Sorry.
such as a farce like that. Linus, have
you tried turning a Ryzen AI Max 395
into a Steam Machine yet to test those
80060 graphics?
>> People keep bringing this up with me.
>> Gibberish words.
>> No, no, no. People keep bringing this
up.
>> They're like, Lionus, have you
considered that the framework desktop is
actually a better Steam machine than the
Steam Machine? And I'm like, my brother
in Christ, the framework the [laughter]
>> the framework desktop,
it starts
for
>> starts at $1,000. You're you're
complaining about the You're complaining
about the cost of the Steam Machine. Is
does that even have Hold on. Does that
even have a like a RAM and a drive in it
yet? Hold on. What am I looking at here?
What am I What am I looking at here? So,
here. Hold on. Let's go. Okay. Desktop.
Here we go. Here we go. configure now.
>> Okay. So, I want to get you want a 395.
>> I don't even think
>> what is happening.
>> Okay. You want a 395. Okay. So, you got
uh Yeah. 40 graphics core, 16 core, 16th
thread. Uh max. Yeah. Okay. So, so let's
go 64 gigs of RAM. I I'm spending
$2,000.
Two grand.
>> Try to configure as closely as you can
to a Steam machine.
>> I don't even have any storage yet. I
have Look. So, what? I put a one TBTE
stupid drive in here. $2200
redoss.
>> Is there a two TBTE version?
>> Uh, what do you mean CPU fan? Choose.
>> So, is this USD?
>> What? Bring your own fan. Oh, for crying
out loud. Okay. All right. I'll get a
>> No, it's Morbin time.
>> It's Morbin time.
>> I'm getting a Noctua. I refuse to engage
with this. [laughter]
one of the fans of all time.
>> Um,
>> yeah.
>> Yeah. So, I It's not even It's not in
the same price bracket at all.
>> How much is the C machine USD?
>> Um,
I'm trying to remember all the
configurations.
>> It was about a,000 bucks for Yeah. So,
we're looking at double the price. And
don't forget, even though the Steam
Machine has kind of anemic dedicated
graphics, it has dedicated graphics. And
even though the framework desktop has
the most roided out onboard graphics,
it's still got,
you know, onboard graphics. Actually, I
I do have to confess though. I, now that
you bring it up, I am kind of curious. I
would be kind of curious to see how a
framework desktop
would compare to the Steam machine. I
think it is faster. Uh, but I I actually
don't remember how an 860S compares to
um
>> there's some things like I don't think
it's coming with a controller. I don't
know if every Steam Machine comes with a
controller.
>> No. No.
>> Okay.
>> The controller, you get a discount on
adding on a controller, but it's not
much.
>> Okay. Uh because honestly, I would want
one of the Steam controllers if I'm
doing this setup
>> personally.
>> Um I would want a Steam controller, but
only if I had a Steam machine, if that
makes sense. Because to me, the main
benefit of the Steam controller is
actually not the trackpads. I I don't
think I would use them that much, but
rather the integration with the Steam
Machine. So I can turn it on and turn it
off and then use CC and everything can
just be done from my couch without
>> I would still want the trackpads.
>> The trackpads are pretty cool.
>> So if you're going to do this
comparison, which does actually sound
kind of fun, I think you would need to
include some form of CC solution and
stuff.
>> Uh [sighs]
now he doesn't want to do it
>> pretty much.
>> Yeah,
>> it's a hassle. It's just such a hassle
>> how it works.
Hi, DLL. Love all the Siberia merch so
far. What are some future products that
may be included in the Siberia lore?
>> Well, you said the
>> Oh, man. What's the code name again?
Mountain of light or
>> Light peak. Light peak.
>> I got to ask I got to ping Lisa about
that.
>> Uh, hold on. I'm going to I'm going to
ask her.
>> Can we add a mountain called
>> Pain in the Hassle without the H? I've
never heard of that before. That's
pretty good.
>> Okay. Schedule send Monday morning.
>> Great.
>> Um, okay. I think we're doing a map
blanket.
>> Don't quote me on that though.
>> Yeah, cool.
>> Yeah,
>> sure.
>> Um, as for like more
>> like a couch blanket kind of deal.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> As for like more characters.
Um,
yeah, we've got the percussive
maintenance. We've got the cleanup
wizard. Oh man, was there was there
>> uh Pancrats pointed out uh Monday's a
holiday. So recently
>> Monday's a holiday.
>> Oh, bloody hell. I would have come in to
work. [laughter]
>> I had no idea. Is Monday a holiday?
>> What is going on?
>> I don't remember. I never
>> I used to have them all in my time sheet
thing and then they got rid of that and
now it's a real time sheet.
>> I never know the Canadian holidays.
>> So bad. Okay, if anyone if anyone from
Google is watching specifically the stat
>> the the the Gmail team um I'm in you
like you've got in the interface you've
got I can go to all my scheduled
messages right I can see all my
scheduled messages I can click my
scheduled message I can see when the
scheduled time is why is the only option
cancel send
>> why can't I change it
>> why can't I change it please let me
change it that would be wonderful thank
you very much so I click cancel send and
it's like now now I have to go. 1 2 3
4
5 6
What the hell is the date? 7 8
9
10 11 12 clicks. No,
>> I do prefer it over Teams, which just uh
graphically makes it look like the
message was sent.
>> Wait, did I just schedule? Oh, yeah. No,
I did that right
>> and then you have a panic attack. Yeah,
[laughter]
that's so annoying
cuz I've sent messages at like 4 in the
morning and I'm like, "Wait, right. No,
it's okay."
>> Cuz I'm not at my best at 4 in the
morning, so I could get tricked by it
multiple times.
>> Couple more here. Hey Dan, Luke, and
Lionus, what is the wildest throwback to
an old video um you've been hit with?
Uh, I was reminded by someone at
OpenSauce uh that you and I played with
shot callers during a mineral oil build.
And I was like, "What?" He's like,
"Yeah, you did." And I was like, "No, I
think that was like a Channel Superun
around the same time."
>> We shot it at the exact same time.
>> Apparently, we shot it at the same
[laughter] time.
>> Why relight a different set? [laughter]
>> Yeah.
>> Efficient. I I don't know that that's
the wildest throwback I've ever had. It
was very recent and it was pretty
surprising. But yeah,
>> um it's again not the wildest throwback,
but it was the one that wasted the most
of my time recently because YouTube
search I used to be able to find this
video pretty easily with YouTube search.
But there is a really really old video
of um you know what? I I think I I think
I still have it. Um,
I'll send it to Dan. Oops. Not bravo,
brother.
Hold on, Sammy. Okay, hold on. But um
Sammy needed for the like family vlog,
he needed uh a video that I referred to
that was shot with my brother that was
just like him riding down a riding down
a snowy hill. Um
and what am I Dang it. What am I looking
for? I can't find it.
Uh,
>> copy URL. I feel like there's so much
tension right now. Am I missing
something here?
>> Uh, we're just thinking about something.
Do Do you want us to do the next merch
message while you look for this? Are you
going to find
>> What did you just call me?
>> The the next checkout message.
>> Okay. Okay. So, here we go. I could not
No. No. I've got it now. Uh, I could not
find Oh, wait. Why am I sending this to
Dan? I know what the title of the video
is now. Okay. YouTube.com.
>> Oh my god.
>> Uh I had to find this because I referred
to it in the family vlog and Sammy
needed the original footage of uh my
little brother. A video like we uploaded
to the channel of my little brother
sledding down a hill and wiping out.
It's It's always crazy to me Lionus
little brother how people will be like,
"Yeah, LTT used to be good. They had
like good They had good videos back in
the day." Like, no, we had some good
videos, but we had some absolute
garbage trash videos. So, finding this
video is like ridiculously hard. It used
to be really easy to get it to come up.
But what are these results even? Lionus
Tech little brother sledding. He thought
his internet was okay. It's not.
YouTube, what are you doing? So, add the
channel, I guess. Sure, fine. Totally
unrelated thing. Another ad. This has
nothing to do with sle. Nothing to do
with sledding. That's my son, not my
little brother. Here's an ad. Sorry.
Excuse me. No, that's a mainline video
upload about our socks.
>> Uh, okay. Tech house. Uh,
>> boom. Roasted.
>> Another pathetic attempt at chasing
clout.
>> Um, anniversary stream. My son again.
Once again, not my brother. Definitely
my son. Zip tie tuning.
>> Hell yeah. What? Where is this video?
Okay. And then you guys are going to see
when I actually do finally manage to
bring it up. The only way that I was
able to find it was by scrolling
infinitely through our video archive
>> until you get back there.
>> So, here's a lot of videos like that,
too.
>> Here's what it's called. I really gave
it I gave it a good solid chance at
this. Snow ramp wipe out my little
brother Linus Tech Tips. This is This is
prime era tech de t.
>> Here it is. So I gave it brother. I gave
it linus tech. What other keyword did I
give it?
>> Sledding.
>> Sledding. Okay. It's not technically
sledding.
Did I put sledding in the keywords here?
No, I did. I put wagon snow ramp. Okay.
Well, whatever. The point is this is the
video and this was the this was the the
throwback that Sammy made me made me
find.
>> Wow. This is an actual LT upload.
>> It's so important.
[laughter]
>> Do they have audio? Hold on, Dan. Do
they have audio? They need the audio.
>> They They do not have audio.
>> Okay. How about How about now? Hold on.
This is worth it. This is worth it.
>> You'll You'll have to start it again cuz
I'm not getting anything. There we go.
>> Now they have audio. Okay. You don't.
Now you do. Here we go. Here we go. Here
we go.
>> [laughter]
>> That is an actual LT upload. [laughter]
>> That's actually awesome. Wonder if I can
find a
>> mainline channel.
>> Yep.
For real, though.
>> Our quality's gone downhill. What the
>> Nice. [laughter]
Solid.
This is back when I just got a I got a
small I got a small bonus per upload and
nobody at the company actually watched
anything that I uploaded. [laughter]
So
I uh Yep. So I did things like this
[sighs]
more often than you might think.
I've got a couple I've got a couple more
for you. This is a mainline LTT video.
Oh my god.
[sighs]
Nope. No audio will not be necessary for
this one.
Come on. This might actually be post Oh,
no. 16 years ago. Yep. This is pre the
company. So, here's a mainline LT video.
>> [laughter]
>> Oh, no.
[gasps]
>> Yeah, it's a it's a rabbit. All right.
Uh I mean I I filmed the same thing.
There was a rabbit just outside this
door. I asked if it wanted to be on the
WAN show
and what' it say? It just left.
>> Rude.
>> It's very rude,
>> man.
Early gift from
>> Yeah, I know this one.
>> Yep,
>> I knew this one for sure.
>> My classic purple gecko hat that I wore
for many billion years.
>> We have a time capsule for the
shrinkflation from Toblerone.
>> Oh. Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. Really? They used to be freaking
units, dude. Oh, and they can't they
can't say it's Swiss chocolate anymore
because they moved all the processing
outside of Switzerland and they have a
really very important rule for that.
>> Yep. Yes, I unboxed a Toblerone unique
username. Watch your language.
>> Um,
what am I doing? Did you see that? What
was I doing?
>> What?
>> Oh, I think I'm showing it relative to
the size of my stomach. [clears throat]
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like, could I even eat all this
chocolate? Yeah. 750 g. Look at that.
Oh, the nutrition facts.
>> Ivon. Ivonne was the camera op for this,
by the way.
>> Yeah.
>> Good job, Ivonne. Focusing on the
vitamins.
>> Hold on. Oh, no. No. She had it. She had
it. I had it.
>> Scroll down.
>> Yep. She did it. She did a good job.
>> Good focus.
>> Yep. Per One Piece. Yep. That was on my
old SX1is, I think. Well, not mine.
>> How did it 16 years ago? So that was
>> Y.
>> Yeah. Okay. Cuz I was going to say I
I've seen that. That was right before
me, I think.
>> Dude, I was 25.
>> That's weird, eh?
>> I know.
>> A fun one for me. Every once in a blue
moon, I will go back to it. Um I wonder
if I can find it.
Luke's first video.
>> Oh,
>> yeah. There it is.
us reacting to this is old. And at the
time that we reacted to it, the video
that we're reacting to was also very
old.
[laughter]
Jesus.
[laughter]
Oh man.
[gasps]
Hold on here. Hold on. Where is he? Look
at him. Look at him. He's a baby. This
was filmed. My mom filmed this on a Flip
HD that I borrowed from a buddy that I
worked with at Best Buy.
>> Oh, did you do this movie theater at
9,000 or whatever it's called style?
>> Yes. Yeah, we did.
>> Oh, that's great.
>> Yeah,
>> even there you look. It's like now you
got triple react.
>> Young L young Luke reacts to even
younger Luke.
>> And we can look back at this in 10
years.
>> Find this clip from the L show.
See, the problem now is I can look back
at videos of mine from back then and I
question if I could do things like there
I'm laughing because I'm bad. Now I look
back at certain videos from back then of
myself and I'm like I don't know if I
can do that anymore
cuz I've [laughter] like I used to
actually like host really often
>> and now I don't.
>> No, you could do it. You'd be fine.
>> Yeah, you just start hosting more.
>> Start a practice. Come on.
>> Yeah, you're overthinking. Come on.
You're overthinking it. Come on.
>> You're overthinking it. I'm sure the
player actually work. You've got it.
You're just self-conscious now.
>> I It's not as uh It's It's definitely
And I know this for sure. It doesn't
come as naturally anymore.
>> Quick, let's give him his confidence
back by by beating him up some more.
Come on, Dan. Help me.
>> Yeah, you're
>> Yeah, you're so wrong.
>> You're incorrect about yourself.
>> Why are you so wrong about yourself?
[laughter]
>> I'm pretty confident of that, actually.
>> So ignorant.
She's being
>> Yeah. This is actually supposed to
demotivate you and make you
>> Yeah.
>> feel bad about yourself.
>> No, we're supposed to motivate him more.
Get rid of that.
>> He doesn't Yeah. No.
>> No. No. No. No. He doesn't know.
>> He doesn't know that he [laughter]
doesn't know how good he is.
>> Oh my god.
>> This is This is now Hope.
>> I think I'm pretty realistic about it. I
used to do a thing all still do it, but
I'm not as good as I used to be.
>> You're not delusional enough.
>> Oh my god.
>> You just need more practice.
>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Come on, we believe in you.
>> Don't prove us wrong. We hate being
wrong. [laughter]
>> Dude, speed tapping. Okay, hit me down.
>> Uh, last one I guess is for Luke.
>> We just got another one.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can
do that.
>> Uh, Luke, you briefly mentioned looking
into Proton Workspace/Proton
Mail business for LCD switch from
Microsoft Google Workspace. Is that
something you're exploring or is it
lacking something?
>> We are in a gridlock.
>> Oh,
>> there are a set of departments that if
we leave lose one set of software with
are basically saying that their lives
will end and they won't be able to do
their jobs. And there's another set of
departments that if we lose the other
piece of software that we use say the
exact same thing.
And we are stuck in this spot where both
groups of departments separately think
it would effectively cost more to deal
with the migration than it would to just
keep the service.
>> And for people who don't pay for the
service
>> for sure. I've talked to multiple other
companies that are stuck in the same
spot. Like a lot of them actually.
>> What's their solution?
>> They're all doing the same thing.
>> So they just keep paying.
>> Yeah.
>> That's crazy.
>> It is. Some of the situations are even
worse than ours because they also have
full Slack subscriptions for everyone.
Nice.
>> They just have Slack and Teams and
Google Workspace for everybody.
>> That's nuts.
>> Nice.
>> Um
>> Scrappy DP says that's how they get you
>> 100%.
>> It's just a ton of lock in. Yeah, cuz
like I mean if you think about it, if we
exited Google Workspace,
>> the migration of the drive,
>> I'd riot
>> would be actually mind-blowingly
difficult.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Like and like when you migrate drive,
you lose all comments on everything.
>> They can't migrate over.
>> Nice.
>> So like we would actually genuinely lose
a lot of information.
>> How is it that we're not using AI to
solve that problem? You know,
>> I mean you might be able to. Sure, but
why is but why aren't Microsoft and
Google doing it? Yeah, that's my point.
>> And then if we dump Microsoft, there's
like a huge amount of authentication
stuff and then some things that the, you
know, I'm not going to call any specific
team names out, but a few teams use that
is like rather specific that would be
really problematic for them. And there's
some things we can do. We have done
something where we we drew back our
subscription tier on Google Workspace
>> um to save some money there. And there's
a couple other plans we can do like
little things. Um
it's this genuinely makes me really sad
but we might kill Slack.
>> A lot of those people are on teams now
at this point and it's just like
>> times are tight. We've got to kill
Slack. Get it?
>> Yeah.
But unfortunately, like actually and the
program, not the Yeah.
>> And to be clear, it's not like, see,
this is the tough thing, right? Because
we could keep paying for Slack. It's not
like we're on the verge of bankruptcy or
whatever, but it's like at a certain
point, you just have to look at costs
and budgeting and go, well, hold on a
second. Is this responsible?
>> Yeah.
>> What can we cut? We You can't just It's
so easy to end up dying by a thousand
cuts if you just subscribe to
everything. And realistically, I really
hate Teams and jumping Slack over to
Teams.
>> Which one specifically?
>> Jumping Slack over to Teams will suck.
But Slack is also a very premium chat
program.
>> And yeah, Teams is garbage, but we also
use it for the entire rest of the
company. We can use it for Flip Plane.
>> Yeah, if I have to put up with it, then
>> yeah,
>> so does everybody. I genuinely think the
company would be happier if everyone was
on Slack, but Slack is so expensive
>> compared comparatively to Team
Salesforce, which I cannot get over and
I swear I say this every time.
>> That's the biggest fumble Google is like
ever done. What is wrong with you?
>> How do they not literally Slack's logo
has the Google colors in it? like the
the the like masterpiece combination in
my opinion back in the day and still
kind of now is Google Workspace and
Slack.
>> Yeah,
>> it's a wonderful combination. And I know
people within Google apparently use chat
which is insane.
Okay, [laughter]
that's nuts. I like I and like
>> that's why they haven't built a a Slack
competitor because they don't know. I
was at communicate
>> maybe I was I was at a YouTube event
recently. They were definitely using
chat. I hung out with a buddy of mine.
>> That's true. It really is real.
>> Yes. I didn't believe it for a long
time.
>> No. Yeah. It's real.
>> It's real.
>> Yep.
>> I know people at Microsoft that use
Slack. So, I thought it was a thing like
and I mean internally like internal
teams at Microsoft that use Slack.
That's how much Teams sucks.
>> So, I thought no, okay, Google must use
Slack or whatever else. No, they
actually just use chat.
>> And I don't know, maybe that's something
that we have to go to our teams and kind
of say like, okay, if Google can be one
of the most valuable companies in the
world and they can get by with
>> Hangouts,
>> maybe we
>> then maybe we could live with whatever
one ecosystem we ultimately decide on.
>> Yeah,
>> I don't know. But to be clear, I haven't
had these one-on-one conversations with
people, so I
>> can't fully do that. A pretty
significant amount of the company needs
things like desktop Excel.
And if you look at how Microsoft does
their pricing, Yeah.
>> by the time you get up to desktop Excel,
>> they have like everything else.
>> Excel is what everybody wants anyway.
>> And they know they need desktop Excel
cuz Web Excel gets included super early
on for very cheap.
>> Yeah. Cuz it sucks.
>> But desktop Excel is like this massive
jump. So if like a third of the freaking
company uses desktop Excel, then
>> a third of the company's going to have
Teams anyways. A third of the company
really need desktop Excel?
>> This is a problem because can the IT
team decide if you need something or
not?
>> You could take it away and then see
>> you want to see the the productivity
destruction that happens from that. Also
the like just rampant hatred from IT
team.
>> Lionus, do you remember five minutes ago
when he said it was going to cost you
more to switch than to stay on it? Yeah.
>> Are you starting to understand now how
this is cheaper?
>> Yeah. Dan Dan Good fullplay chat said
working at Google right now. Can confirm
we use Google chat. I believe you now.
And that's insane.
>> Yep.
>> Oh my god.
>> Can you just approach Salesforce and buy
freaking Slack and tie it in Google
Workspace and stop being
>> I don't think they want to do that.
Salesforce bought it for $27 billion.
Yeah,
>> I remember that being huge news at the
time because acquisition valuations like
I remember everyone freaked out when
Amazon bought Twitch for a billion and
then now it's just like oh yeah
Twitter's worth $44 billion and a chat
app is worth 27 billion. What are even
what what is it?
>> I got a ploy for Google. I got a ploy
for Google. All the programmers use
Slack, right? buy Slack and then use it
to train Gemini on how to program
because they're all going to be posting
about their code in Slack.
>> Honestly, yeah. Uh, Business Plus
includes SSO. So, all the big companies
are going here. 9 USD a month for just
chat. That's crazy. Hey, Google, just
buy it. Apparently, you'll make your
money back. Everyone uses this because
the other ones are terrible. They're so
bad. Teams is just like I don't know.
It's like do you wanna do you wanna cut
off your legs so you can afford slack or
do you want to slowly poison yourself?
And then it's like okay I guess I'll
slowly poison myself cuz Teams is that
bad.
>> I don't know. There's something to be
said for cutting off a leg. [laughter]
>> You save on shoes.
>> Yeah.
>> And uh now we're going to save on um you
guys needing to continue watching the
WAN show. That's it for this week, guys.
Thank you so much for tuning in. all all
of all of y'all. I can't believe how
many people tuned in to the WAN show
this week. We I I don't actually
understand what changed or what's
different, but uh hey, welcome to the
new channel. If you guys haven't
subscribed already, Wan show is on a new
channel. You may not have even noticed
cuz it might have just popped up in your
YouTube recommended. So, make sure you
subscribe and we'll see you again next
week. Same bad time, same bad channel.
>> Thank you. Bye.
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This episode of the WAN show discusses the recent controversy surrounding Minecraft's increased system requirements and the new AMD RX9050 GPU, which includes a 4GB version likely intended for OEMs. The hosts also dive into personal stories, including Linux background RAM usage, anecdotes about movie theater experiences, and Linus's upcoming experiment with ADHD medication. Finally, the show touches upon business challenges in the current market, including the high cost of enterprise software suites, and updates on LMG's internal projects.
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