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0:00

What's up everybody? It's been a chill

0:02

week. Welcome to the WAN show. I built a

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chicken coupe.

0:06

>> I did not have a chill week.

0:08

>> Nice. You know what else happened this

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week? All kinds of stuff. California

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wants to ban 3D printers that can't

0:18

detect when a gun is being printed. And

0:21

oh,

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terrible news of terrible news.

0:25

Minecraft is getting a significant

0:28

[clears throat] system requirements

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upgrade. Well, which is to say that you

0:34

are downgrading how easy the game is to

0:36

run, but you'll have to upgrade your PC

0:39

in order to play Minecraft. What else we

0:41

got this week?

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>> GG Good Old Games confirms that GOG

0:44

Galaxy for Linux is in the works. That's

0:47

exciting. Another another win. Uh and

0:50

also apparently uh the US Department of

0:53

Justice has decided that uh deleting

0:55

files is illegal now.

0:58

Yeah.

1:18

The show is [music] brought to you today

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by Op manager Nexus, Whisper Flow,

1:22

Motion Gray, and Hrefs alongside our rap

1:25

partner Dbrand, our laptop partner

1:27

Razer, and our chair partner also Razer.

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Why don't we jump right into our

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headline topic, which is, of course, the

1:35

big controversy this week. Minecraft

1:38

system requirements have been bumped for

1:40

the first time in 17 years. That's

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right, folks.

1:43

>> The big controversy this week,

1:44

>> the official The official meme, but can

1:48

it run Minecraft? The classic The

1:50

original. Okay. Not the original. Can it

1:52

run Crisis was the original, but but but

1:54

can it run Minecraft was the meme

1:56

version?

1:57

>> I don't think I ever heard that.

1:59

>> But can it run Minecraft? Yeah.

2:00

>> What? What are you talking about? That's

2:02

such a thing.

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And like playing Minecraft on something,

2:08

dude. Minecraft. Yes. Yes. 100%. Anyway,

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Minecraft Java Edition, the original PC

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version of Minecraft for Windows, Mac,

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O, and Linux is going from Oh. Oh, good

2:21

lord. Wow. Oh, wow. These requirements.

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These requirements. It's not too much,

2:25

but it is quite a jump. minimum

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requirements. The game is now targeting

2:30

1080p at 30 fps on the fast preset. And

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to do that, you will need, and I quote,

2:34

folks, a 64bit system.

2:39

>> That is 60 bits plus 4. That's that's 70

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- 6 bits. You're going to need 64 of

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them. 64 bits.

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You will need you will need 8 billion

2:51

bytes of RAM or 64 billion bits of RAM.

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Okay, that's if you have a discrete GPU.

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>> That's a lot of bits of RAM.

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>> If you are running integrated graphics,

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you will need 12 billion bytes of RAM.

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And I I can't quickly do 12* 8 in my

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head. So, we don't even know how much

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that is. It It could be 96. It

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[laughter] could be 92. We're not sure.

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Nobody knows. You will need a four core

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processor.

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[laughter]

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Good lord. I mean, oh, you might have to

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have a PC from 2006,

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you know. It

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um you will also need a Vulcan 1.3

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capable GPU with at least 2 billion

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bytes of VRAM. Um, now I'm obviously

3:45

memeing on this a little bit because you

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could you could probably literally I

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have found computers on the side of the

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road

3:53

>> that could run this

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>> that could run Minecraft,

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>> but this is a pretty significant uplift

3:59

in the the recommended minimum

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requirements. It used to only require 2

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gigs of RAM. This could be really good

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actually cuz if they were being held

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back by those old requirements like my

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god this is actually a very substantial

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jump.

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>> I'm going to be honest with you. Um I

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don't uh

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>> you don't think they were using it as a

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guideline?

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>> I I I I don't think they were and I

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don't think that this is going to make

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that much of a difference. I suspect the

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increase in system requirements is more

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>> to run your Discord in the background.

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We actually did a video recently

4:35

comparing Oh man, there's going to be a

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bit of a spoiler here. Okay, so go like

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this. Okay, here's your spoiler

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avoidance instructions. Go like this and

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go like this and go like this. La. Okay,

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do it for about

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13 seconds. I'm just going to do this

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real quick. Okay, in our exploration,

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Linux used significantly less RAM than

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Windows

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>> in the background. not as much of a

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difference in the running foreground

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applications, but so much less in the

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background that on Windows you just

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fundamentally have a certain amount of

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RAM that you just need before you can

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run anything. So, what I believe is that

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this update is more reflective of how

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much RAM Windows needs to suck in the

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background while you're playing

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Minecraft. I I haven't actually seen

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what the what the fidelity increases

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are. Are there any fidelity? I don't

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know that there is any.

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>> It seems to me that they're just kind of

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catching up with the times. As for

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running on recommended, the game is now

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targeting 1080p at 60 fps with the fancy

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preset for for recommended. And to hit

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that target, you will need Okay, this is

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where things get a little real. 16 gigs

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of RAM, a stronger, modern processor,

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and a more capable graphics card with 6

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gigs of VRAM. Note, it used to only

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require 4 gigs of RAM as it's uh for

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recommended.

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Wow.

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So, the people that are now below

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minimum requirements

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accounts for 1.42%

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of of users on Steam. So, I am grabbing

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the 4 gig and the less than 4 gig

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categories and that they do seem to be

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shrinking with 16, 24, and 48.

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>> Mhm.

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>> growing. Kind of surprised it's not 32.

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>> I have 48 and it's cursed and I hate it.

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>> Yeah,

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>> I don't like it.

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>> Well, the thing about it though is that

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especially with RAM prices being what

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they are, if 32 gigs is not enough and

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64 gigs is not affordable,

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>> you do what you can. Yeah. I mean, 48

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gigs is a pretty pretty nice place to

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be, actually.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Anyway,

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>> it's uncomfortable.

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>> The change happened on the 21st of July,

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and this is a quote. Performance and

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visual quality are no longer guaranteed

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on hardware below the new minimum. Also,

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this is fun. I don't I don't know who

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was working on the doc here, but

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>> there's some there's some there's some

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fun

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>> find the hidden text like AI

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optimization going on in the WAN doc

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helping to reinforce this point I guess

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for any AIs that are reading this

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document. Anyway, our discussion

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question here is what do you make of

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this requirement change given the

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ongoing RAM apocalypse? I mean,

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>> we're talking DDR3

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grade specs here.

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>> Yeah, I think they're probably accepting

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where they are at more than changing

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much.

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>> I mean, what is what is what what was

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the requirement? 16 gigs.

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>> 16 gigs DDR3. I'm pretty sure that's

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actually still pretty affordable.

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Okay, so I can pick up a couple HyperX

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Furies for

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That's kind of more than I would really

7:53

Wait, hold on a second. Capacity. How

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Oh, okay. Here we go. Here we go. Here

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we go. Most popular. Sure. Color.

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What if I don't care? Oh, are they just

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all Are they just all the same price?

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Oh, yeah. They're just They're just all

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the same price. So, yeah. 40 45 bucks.

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Yeah, that doesn't seem like the best

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deal. These guys seem

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>> That doesn't seem great.

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>> Yeah, I think we can I think we can do

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better than that. Okay, here's a

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2x8,600.

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>> There you go.

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>> $14. And yeah, the shipping's Oh, the

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shipping. Oh, okay. That Yeah, that's

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just Canada things. That that's pretty

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reasonable actually for

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>> if you're not in Canada that'll be a lot

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cheaper. Shipping in Canada is a

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nightmare.

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>> Yeah. So if you're in the US and you're

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buying from someone in the US, you could

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probably get it for just like I don't

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know eight bucks shipped or whatever.

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With that said, shipping rates have been

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going up like so many things.

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Anything to do with fuel pretty much. Um

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what else we got here? Our other

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discussion question is here's a little

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Carpool Critics/ They're just movies

8:51

throwback. Riley was pleasantly

8:54

surprised by the Minecraft movie. Who

8:55

prepared this? Okay. By the Minecraft

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movie and he quite likes it. Did you see

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the movie? What did you think? Did you

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see the Minecraft movie?

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>> Oh, it was it was pretty okay.

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>> Chicken joggy.

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>> Yeah, it was very it was obviously

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designed for pretty much every scene to

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have something, you know, GIF worthy,

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memew worthy, Tik Tok worthy. Um,

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but it it got like it kind of it kind of

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worked. Um, I didn't I wasn't I wasn't

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expecting to laugh at Jason Mimoa's

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performance like when he meant for me to

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laugh at it, you [snorts] know, like I I

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watched I watched Aquaman and I laughed

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like belly laughed like frequently

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during that movie. I don't think it was

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meant to be funny, but it was just it

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was so stupid. Um, like they did you

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watch Aquaman?

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>> No.

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>> Oh man, it was just [laughter]

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>> I had no no desire to watch Aquaman. I

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like kind of thought about maybe seeing

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the Minecraft movie. I had no desire to

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see Aquaman.

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>> It's worth it. It's worth it because

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they'll just like you know you know how

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like uh you know how like a superhero

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will always like land like in this pose,

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you know? [snorts] Aquaman takes that

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>> like far beyond.

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[laughter]

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>> It like it just it goes on.

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>> We should do a

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>> forever. It It never ends. It's It's

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crazy.

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>> We should do a Computer Man movie.

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>> So I What?

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>> That would be kind of sick. We used to

10:35

do like uh like remember that uh

10:37

Stormtrooper rap? Oh, I guess I was I

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was remembering that today because I

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actually sent you this.

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>> I came across that Andrew Tate had a

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short rap

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>> attempt at a career. [laughter]

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It is exactly as bad as you would think.

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>> Okay. I'm excited to check that out.

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>> Um anyway, I

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>> What?

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>> Yeah. Oh my You know what? You obviously

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don't play it.

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>> No, no, no.

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>> But you you should just just do it. Just

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just watch it. Anyway, I wasn't

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expecting to laugh unironically at Jason

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Mamoa, but I actually thought he was

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pretty good. And Jack Black always

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brings it. I [laughter]

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>> like seconds in. It's hilarious.

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[laughter]

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[gasps]

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>> It's even worse with audio.

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>> His smile is just so brutal.

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>> Imagine having negative riz.

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>> Yeah,

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I think that might be like the worst.

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Yeah, someone one. [laughter]

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That's where I started laughing.

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What a dork. [laughter]

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Oh, that's awesome.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Okay. Well, I'm excited to properly

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check that out later.

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>> Yeah. My favorite meme I've seen is uh

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going from incel to incel. [laughter]

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[gasps]

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>> Um anyh who, what were we talking about?

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Yeah. Minecraft movie. I I actually I I

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actually I I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it

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quite a lot. Um,

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>> I I had I had kind of like a concept

12:08

that I kind of really

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liked and I I got my got got it in my

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head that I thought it would have been

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really cool if um

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if Oh man, I actually forget what it

12:20

was. Whatever the direction they went

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with it was was fun, whimsical. I have

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no idea. Did they do a second one

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already or is that one still coming? I

12:26

can't remember.

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>> Is it still coming?

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>> Yeah, I I don't know. I have pretty low

12:30

expectations for the second one. Did you

12:33

end up seeing the uh Super Mario Galaxy

12:35

movie?

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>> That's a cute name. Minecraft movie

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Squared is coming in 2027.

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>> Nice. I wonder what they'll call the

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third one. [laughter]

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>> No, I have not seen Mario Galaxy.

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>> Oh, are you just like over movies at

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this point? I feel like I I feel like a

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a Nintendo movie would be pretty high up

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on

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>> I used to be very into movies. Um, I

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used to go to, you know, Colossus like

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all the time. I would go see basically

13:06

everything new that was coming out,

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>> right?

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>> Um, I was I was very into watching

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movies. Um, and then I don't know,

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something kind of clicked.

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>> I think it was just the onslaught of

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Marvel stuff

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>> and a few other just like junk things

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that came out. Uh, there was The Diamond

13:23

in the Rough. We went to go see Barbie.

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>> That was fun.

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>> That was fun. Uh, and then fairly

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recently I went to go see Hail Mary.

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That was awesome. Really like that.

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>> I got to get on that.

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>> Um, going to see Hail Mary has kind of

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inspired me to like maybe I should start

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looking at,

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>> you know, what's in the theater a little

13:41

bit more often again stuff cuz I've been

13:42

completely disconnected from movies for

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a long time. I am very exhausted on

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superhero movies.

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>> Too many. I saw on a the plane back from

13:54

Open Sauce. Um, I was trying to work on

13:58

my laptop, but the C was so small that

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um I the keyboard was up against my

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chest and I had to type like this.

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>> Okay, nice.

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>> So, like that gets pretty annoying

14:09

sometimes. So, I was watching a show

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while I was trying to get some work done

14:12

and I put on I think it was No Way Home,

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Spider-Man No Way Home. And that was

14:17

like that was okay, but I've been I I

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feel like I've been able to stomach the

14:21

Spider-Man movies better than most the

14:22

other one. Are are those made by Sony?

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No.

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>> Yeah. Okay.

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>> No, but they're just they're just they

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have been pretty consistently pretty

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good.

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>> I've I've when I've seen bits of those,

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I've been enjoying those more than most,

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but just in general. Yeah. For for a

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while, I've been a little just tired of

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superhero movies in general.

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>> This is unironically good.

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>> Oh, yeah. Okay. I didn't even know this

14:46

was a thing.

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>> Yeah. It was like seven years ago.

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>> Okay. and uh it just showed up on my

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radar when I was looking for like family

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movies to watch with the kids and it's

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rated like 94% on Rotten Tomatoes both

15:02

critics and audience and I'm like come

15:05

on you've got to be kidding. It's

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actually really funny.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Very good. The second one sucks.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Even though it's also rated really well.

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It was just on my mind cuz we like just

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watched it the other night.

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>> This is a spoiler for No Way Home. So,

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if you don't want to take your

15:18

headphones off for a second, I'll put my

15:19

hand up when I'm done. Um, but when when

15:22

when the three guys come together, the

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three Spider-Man.

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>> Yeah,

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>> that was cool.

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>> Oh, yeah.

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>> I like that a lot, actually.

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>> No's great.

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>> I thought that was that was pretty sick.

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I didn't get to see the ending. The

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flight was not very long.

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>> Oh, okay. So, you actually have not

15:38

watched the movie then?

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>> No, I've watched like threequarters of

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it.

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>> Okay.

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>> But it was pretty good.

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>> Is this an Oh. Uh uh. Wow. I'm really

15:49

glad we had that conversation. That what

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a fulfilling and satisfying conclusion

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to it. [laughter]

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>> There you go.

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>> Terrific. [clears throat]

15:56

I Why don't we jump into another topic

15:58

here? [laughter]

16:00

4 gig GPUs are back on the menu, boys.

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Introducing the AMD

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9050. AMD has unveiled their new RX950

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with an 8 gig retail model and

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surprisingly a 4 gig version that also

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exists. The 8 gig 9050 is rolling out

16:21

first in the Asia-Pacific and Latin

16:23

America regions with a reported $279

16:28

price tag. ASRock briefly showed off a 4

16:31

gig RX9050 Challenger model on its site

16:34

before taking the listing down, but

16:36

screenshots of the page are still

16:37

circulating. AMD only lists the 8 gig

16:40

version of the card. A Tom's Hardware

16:42

article indicates that the 8 gig variant

16:44

has a 128 bit memory bus while the 4 gig

16:47

version only has a 64bit memory bus.

16:53

Wow, that is exactly the same number of

16:56

bits that your CPU needs to have to run

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Minecraft.

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What a coincidence.

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>> Just to address some people in chat seem

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to be confused. I did not lose interest

17:06

in watching the movie. The the plane

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landed on the ground.

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>> Yes.

17:12

>> Anyways, there one of the discussion

17:14

questions is uh who is this even for? Is

17:17

this 2016? What is this suggest entry-le

17:20

GPU market is heading? Is this Are we

17:22

gonna get better optimized games or

17:24

what? In my opinion, no. We're gonna get

17:26

more Roblox.

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>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And Minecraft.

17:31

>> What's the minimum requirements for

17:32

Roblox?

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>> Oh, like nothing.

17:34

>> Yeah.

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>> Uh, WCCF text Hassan M

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Hassan tweeted that AMD Muchaba, I'm

17:42

going to try. Okay. Muchaba, we're going

17:44

with that. tweeted that AMD confirmed to

17:45

him that the 4 gig version is intended

17:47

for OEMs only, meaning it will be found

17:49

in pre-built PCs rather than sold as a

17:51

standalone graphics card. So, yeah, the

17:55

the answer for, you know, who is this

17:57

for? You know, what is it for? What year

17:59

is it? Um, is it's for very very budget

18:03

machines. And it's funny to me because I

18:07

feel like this is one of those things

18:08

that just kind of comes around cyclally.

18:12

Um, underspec crappy OEM machines have

18:16

always been a thing. The only difference

18:18

here is that we're getting an underspec

18:20

crappy dedicated graphics card so that

18:23

you can do some rudimentary gaming

18:25

rather than underspec crappy integrated

18:27

graphics that realistically can't do

18:30

anything. So,

18:34

I guess that's something. Uh, as for the

18:38

existence of sort of crummy lower spec

18:41

versions of cards that have cut down

18:43

memory buses and cut down VRAMm, that

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has been a thing going back to my

18:51

infamous showdown with uh, Sapphire of

18:55

all people. I bought like a like a

18:57

Radeon 9200

19:00

SE or something like that. 9250 SE. I

19:02

forget what it was, but basically like

19:04

my my family wanted to run like some

19:07

basic game on the the family computer at

19:09

the time that I already had like my own

19:11

computer. And was it a 96? No, it was

19:14

9600 SE, I think. Anyway, it doesn't

19:17

matter. The point is that I only found

19:20

out after I bought it that it was like a

19:22

crappy 64-bit memory bus version, and

19:24

that was not advertised anywhere except

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on like the European region

19:30

>> site.

19:32

Um, and so I I pretty much like I I

19:35

wanted an RMA. I wanted a 128 bit card.

19:38

And they basically told me to pound

19:40

sand. And I ignored Sapphire for years

19:43

and years and years and years. And I'm

19:45

over it now. You can tell. [laughter]

19:48

>> You can tell by the way that I'm totally

19:49

over it. Totally.

19:50

>> I mean, and you know what? This this

19:52

sucks because this is going to be like a

19:54

whole new generation of people is going

19:55

to buy a preconfigured system thinking

19:57

that they're getting a 9050 which isn't

20:00

great, but they're still going to see

20:02

performance reviews out there for what

20:04

it supposedly is and they're going to

20:05

get this cut down memory bus and they're

20:07

going to get this cut down memory

20:08

quantity and they're going to be getting

20:10

worse performance. And unless they are

20:13

pretty savvy in terms of running

20:16

comparative benchmarks, um, they're not

20:18

even going to probably realize they're

20:20

just going to like have crappier

20:22

performance. I I I hate this kind of

20:24

confusing

20:26

branding and I just don't think I don't

20:28

see any path to us getting rid of it.

20:31

>> Here's a question for you.

20:33

>> Sure.

20:34

>> Would you go for that or this?

20:42

$63. I mean, at that price Oh, obviously

20:46

this. Yeah, I can get this for

20:48

>> less.

20:50

Let's assume you're in the States. So,

20:51

this shipping isn't going to be $26.

20:53

>> Yeah,

20:54

>> it'll be something 15 or something.

20:56

>> Sure. Let's call it

20:57

>> But it won't be 26.

20:58

>> Let's call it 80 bucks.

20:59

>> Yeah,

20:59

>> 80 bucks shipped.

21:00

>> Yeah,

21:01

>> I would take the heck out of this. I'm

21:02

not going to get a warranty. Like, I

21:04

feel like we always have to acknowledge

21:05

that there could be.

21:07

>> And that is a negative. Yeah, that is a

21:08

negative.

21:09

>> I've had very very few. I I don't

21:12

actually remember a GPU fully dying on

21:14

me ever.

21:16

>> But there are, you know,

21:17

>> there are cases where it happens.

21:18

>> There's degrees of dead, right? Like I'm

21:19

reading The Princess Bride to my girls

21:21

right now. And, you know, there's

21:23

there's all dead and there's also mostly

21:26

dead, right? And so for a lot of people,

21:30

a failed fan bearing on something like a

21:32

GPU cooler, that could be a death

21:34

sentence. Yeah, I have that

21:36

>> because at that kind of a price, right,

21:38

we're talking this is $63.50. Okay, so

21:41

why don't we go ahead and try to find a

21:43

replacement fan for this GPU? You could

21:46

probably get it for maybe, I don't know,

21:48

10 bucks, something like that. But how

21:50

much is the shipping going to be another

21:51

10, 20 bucks? Zapstrapping a 120 to it

21:54

to be honest.

21:56

>> Not everyone's comfortable with that.

21:57

>> No, totally. Totally.

21:58

>> And

22:00

I disagree.

22:01

>> Sure.

22:02

>> I would zip tie a fan to it. Yeah.

22:05

>> But I also I I have to acknowledge

22:07

>> a lot of people won't.

22:09

>> Just because I don't agree with

22:10

something doesn't mean that it, you

22:13

know, doesn't exist.

22:14

>> Yeah. Totally.

22:15

>> So,

22:17

I understand why people buy a literally

22:20

way worse new thing,

22:24

but I I don't relate to it, if that

22:27

makes sense.

22:27

>> Yeah. Like you can get them, but when

22:30

that that is such a high percentage of

22:32

the card that you just bought.

22:34

>> That's like buying brand new tires for a

22:35

$1,000 car.

22:36

>> Yeah.

22:37

>> Like I just

22:38

>> Yeah.

22:38

>> I I I was

22:39

>> That's a massive percentage.

22:41

>> I was that guy with my old Civic. Like

22:44

literally, you reach a certain point

22:46

where a vehicle is worth so little that

22:49

you go, "Oh, it needs new windshield

22:50

wipers. Well, it." [laughter] Like

22:54

I guess it's gone then. Like I'm not

22:56

going to Okay, obviously exaggerating a

22:59

little, but I think you guys understand

23:00

what I mean.

23:01

>> I mean, that kind of This is not on the

23:04

scale of windshield wipers, but my uh my

23:06

fuel injectors in my car blew up and it

23:09

was like, "What's the repair for this?"

23:11

No, that literally genuinely costs more

23:13

than the car. I offered to give it to

23:15

the mechanic and the mechanic was like,

23:16

"No, [laughter]

23:18

it's not worth fixing." And that's how

23:20

you know

23:21

>> that they're not just like jerking you

23:23

around if you offer to give them the

23:25

car. And they're like,

23:26

>> cuz I was like, I don't know what to do

23:27

with it. And he was like, well, push it

23:28

to the um push it to like the the metal

23:32

wrecking thing down the road

23:34

>> and then they'll give you like a few

23:36

bucks for it, but you're going to get

23:37

wrecked because there's a lot of

23:39

non-metal materials, so they'll value it

23:41

at like the lowest part of the whatever

23:44

curve thingy, whatever. And I got like I

23:46

think it was like not very much money,

23:48

but yeah.

23:50

>> Uh hold on. Where we where we got the

23:52

Maxo Drive says, "Hey,

23:54

>> push it by hand."

23:55

>> I spent $800 on tires for my $600 truck.

23:59

Okay, I'm going to I'm going to be

24:01

honest with you guys. Once my car was

24:04

worth under about 2500 bucks, I stopped

24:06

buying new tires and I started just

24:10

buying like one used tire. So, by I

24:12

don't you probably never noticed this

24:14

because why would anybody look that

24:15

closely, but by the end of the Civic's

24:17

life, it had like four mismatched tires

24:19

on it, which I know you are not supposed

24:21

to do, but they all had some tread on

24:23

them. Like, I'm [laughter] just I'm not

24:26

going to spend that kind of money on

24:27

something that's not worth that kind of

24:28

money. It just

24:29

>> this this is

24:30

>> except my bike. That was an exception.

24:32

>> Mostly not on topic. And I you can't do

24:35

this with consumer tires. I think it

24:37

works specifically for this, but have

24:38

you seen people uh retread like forklift

24:41

tires and stuff?

24:42

>> I have heard of that.

24:43

>> That's actually crazy. Their tires are

24:46

different. You can't just do that. But

24:47

like it is it is cool. Wait, Luke's

24:50

Acura is gone. No. No.

24:52

>> Magnetic Flux asks, "Did you spend more

24:55

on modding your bike than the cost of

24:56

the bike?"

24:58

>> Yeah.

24:59

>> Oh, yeah.

24:59

>> Pretty sure by quite a bit,

25:00

>> dude. I I've I probably sp It's a 2003.

25:04

like what what is a 2003 SV worth? Uh

25:07

for sale 2003 SV 650S here.

25:11

>> My my Acura, which is from 2009. I

25:15

bought it in 2013, uh has had one

25:18

unscheduled repair ever, and it was

25:20

minor. Um it costs very little. At this

25:24

point in time, I would consider

25:26

potentially spending more on repairing

25:27

it than it is technically worth. And the

25:30

reason for that for me would be is that

25:34

I would know the state of it. If I

25:36

bought another car at that similar

25:38

value, I don't think I'd be able to like

25:41

trust it as much.

25:42

>> Wow, these things are actually

25:42

>> Have you done timing belt? I think that

25:45

was a scheduled repair last time it

25:46

happened. I think I'm going to need to

25:48

do an unscheduled one now because there

25:49

is no schedule left, if that makes

25:52

sense.

25:53

>> These things are actually worth a fair

25:54

bit still. That's a 2012. Ignore that

25:56

one. 2006 3,700 bucks. Uh here's a Wow,

26:01

that's a lot. That's a lot of kilometers

26:02

on a bike though. 60,000 km uh for three

26:05

grand. Yeah. Um so I probably not quite

26:09

but I probably spent close to that on

26:11

the paint.

26:12

>> Um so yeah, definitely. That was not

26:17

about the bike though. That was not

26:18

about fixing anything. It was perfectly

26:20

functional when I took it into the shop.

26:22

It was about the project. It was about

26:24

It was about painting something.

26:25

>> Yeah. Sorry. I I said that very poorly.

26:28

I my car will do it'll like tell me when

26:31

a scheduled thing is up. Um I think it

26:34

genuinely stops doing that after a while

26:36

which is what I'm was referencing by

26:37

that. I know there's the interval

26:39

things. I'm coming up to a a decently

26:42

major interval repair soon

26:45

>> cuz I just passed

26:48

210 I think and there's one coming soon.

26:52

Clapped K24 Accord says they kind of

26:55

reach that age where they're just worth

26:56

one price as long as they're in decent

26:58

shape with average mileage. Every car

26:59

kind of reaches that. Yeah. Yeah.

27:00

There's a lot of types of vehicles that

27:02

kind of reach that point in their

27:03

depreciation curve. So, you could like

27:05

buy it and then sell it later. And like

27:06

girl math, it didn't really cost

27:07

anything.

27:09

>> I wonder if part of I wonder if part of

27:12

that is uh because people use them for

27:14

parts to keep their other ones going.

27:16

>> Uh I'm not sure. I mean, it's I know

27:18

it's definitely a thing. Like, um, the

27:20

shop that was working on mine said that

27:22

there were parts that they had a hard

27:23

time finding because they don't make

27:25

them new anymore and they did have to go

27:26

track down donor stuff. This is an

27:29

interesting conversation. So, Tim Tim

27:34

uh, whatever his name is, Tim TME in

27:37

float plane chat says, "But a sports

27:39

bike at your age with the family you

27:41

got, is it really worth introducing

27:42

splash possibility?" Um, you know, it's

27:46

it's a that's a fascinating conversation

27:48

cuz like at what point, you know, is a

27:52

motorcycle

27:53

more or less of like a like a you know,

27:56

bad? Like is it like is it that my age

27:59

is too old?

28:00

>> Cuz if anything, I feel like the younger

28:03

you are, the more life you have ahead of

28:04

you. I actually see it the opposite way

28:07

of

28:07

>> Are they saying because you have uh

28:11

people responsibilities now and you

28:13

don't have people responsibilities when

28:14

you're younger? Is the age really the

28:17

unimportant part and the family is the

28:19

important part?

28:20

>> I see. Yeah, I could I could see that.

28:22

But I mean, you know,

28:23

>> are they using age to describe life

28:25

stage?

28:27

>> Possibly. Okay. Okay. I interpreted it

28:29

the other way as like like at your age

28:32

um like

28:34

>> when with the way that they had worded

28:35

it I originally interpreted that they

28:37

were trying to say like reflexes are

28:38

slower and stuff and then they went a

28:40

different direction which is why I'm I'm

28:42

assuming it's more the like whole family

28:43

and stuff.

28:44

>> Oh that's interesting. Um

28:48

Gilmore asks is there a point in your

28:50

life where your life insurance is worth

28:52

more than you? Um, I actually have no

28:56

idea what kind of a policy Ivonne has

28:57

out on me. Maybe we'll find out someday.

29:00

[laughter]

29:03

>> Oh god.

29:04

>> Uh, and he says, "No, no, no, no. Like

29:06

family and all." Yeah. I mean, [sighs]

29:10

I get it, but like from my point of

29:13

view, it's um

29:16

like man, everything's a risk. Like

29:19

every time I take the kids up skiing,

29:22

like I'm freaking out a little bit,

29:25

right? Cuz like, yeah, I could break my

29:27

neck. They could break their neck. Um,

29:30

like there's so many things that we do

29:32

in life that you could do wrong enough

29:35

that you die. And um, mo motorcycle

29:39

riding is absolutely one of them. But I

29:47

a life without some amount of risk is

29:50

not much of a life.

29:51

>> Yeah. I I Well, I No, it can be.

29:54

>> And everyone has to have Well, I don't

29:56

know if I agree with that. With with no

29:58

risk.

29:59

>> You can never get in a car. You can

30:01

never get in anything.

30:03

>> It's a spectrum. Everyone has their

30:05

comfort zone. And and I'm not I'm not

30:07

about to, you know, pass judgement on

30:10

>> people should go out and ride

30:12

motorcycles right now, but like there's

30:14

everyone has their own lines and you

30:15

should just

30:17

>> We say the same thing about freaking

30:19

everything all the time on W show. It I

30:22

feel like we're not getting the message

30:24

across [laughter]

30:28

like in any of the categories.

30:30

>> Nuance on my W show. [laughter]

30:33

>> Get out of here.

30:35

Get out.

30:36

>> We had a food in the pre-show. We're

30:38

talking about it with this now. Like you

30:41

you got to find your line and just stick

30:43

to it. I don't know.

30:44

>> Yeahve. For some people it's a racing

30:46

line.

30:47

>> For other people it's a cocaine line,

30:49

you know. I don't [laughter]

30:51

>> Yeah. Like very clean in regards to some

30:53

people it's a mower line and stuff. Like

30:55

I It's all good, you know? Like

30:57

>> Yeah. You do what works for you.

31:00

>> I like I like Curious Bread's thing

31:02

here. I don't know what the origin of

31:03

this is. I've heard it before though.

31:04

Don't be too focused on trying to add

31:06

years to your life. Figure out how to

31:08

add life to your years. Like I um

31:10

someone else posted, "If I died

31:12

snowboarding, I would die happy." I

31:14

mean, the the the end moments there

31:15

might not be that happy suck.

31:17

>> Yeah, snowboard accidents can be pretty

31:19

can be pretty messy. Same.

31:20

>> Do you see the dude who is right off the

31:22

chairlift, but like suffocating under

31:25

the snow? Have you seen this video?

31:27

There's a guy like genuinely like right

31:29

off like they they get off the chairlift

31:32

and start sliding forward and someone

31:33

sees a board kind of poking out of deep

31:35

powder just like slightly off where

31:38

basically the offramp is and he goes up

31:40

and he's like, "Are you good?" And then

31:41

figures out the guy's like fully buried

31:43

under the snow and has to dig him out

31:44

and pull him up and the guy's like

31:46

barely able to breathe at first.

31:47

>> Wow.

31:48

>> Crazy. Um there are there are risks to

31:53

lots of things. Um, that being said,

31:56

I've gone snowboarding a ton. I've gone

31:57

off trail, which you're not supposed to

31:58

do, but it was a freaking blast. Um, I

32:01

wouldn't go off trail right now,

32:05

but I was comfortable with it and I

32:07

think it was an actually okay decision

32:08

when I did.

32:09

>> Yeah.

32:10

>> Um,

32:11

>> and like I don't know, we always we

32:13

always set the we always set, you know,

32:15

what's not okay as one step beyond

32:18

whatever we're personally comfortable

32:20

with. Like I have to admit I've had the

32:22

exact same judgy thoughts about that uh

32:25

that cave diver or no not cave diver.

32:29

The spelunker who like went through

32:31

devil's something. Yeah, that guy. And

32:34

like three people almost died trying to

32:37

bring him back out and he was in there

32:39

for like half a day before finally his

32:41

like heart gave out or something like

32:44

that. And he had like

32:45

>> this one.

32:46

>> Yeah, that one.

32:47

>> Um 27 hours. That's the one. Um, anyway,

32:53

if you if you have a weak stomach, don't

32:55

read about it because it's it's

32:57

horrifying. And yeah, he left a family

32:59

behind. And I'm I'm looking at that

33:01

going like,

33:03

yeah, that just seems like the kind of

33:04

thing that if you have people who depend

33:06

on you, you probably shouldn't do. But,

33:10

>> but everyone has their line. What is it?

33:12

Alex Hornold or something? Um,

33:15

>> is that the free climber guy? Yeah,

33:18

>> Alex Hnold.

33:19

>> I I watched that guy do Taipei 101,

33:22

which from my understanding was like

33:25

>> basically whatever for him, like not

33:27

even hard.

33:28

>> Yeah.

33:29

>> And I just like I almost wanted to throw

33:31

up

33:32

>> watching him standing on the top of

33:34

Taipei 101,

33:36

>> no ropes, no supports, no nothing.

33:40

>> He's I'm pretty sure he's a wife and I

33:42

think he has kids.

33:44

Um

33:48

>> yeah.

33:49

>> Yep. He has two two kids. So, everyone

33:52

has their line.

33:53

>> Yeah. Ryaw brings up a good point. He's

33:55

like motorcycles are an interesting

33:57

topic for this type of a discussion

33:59

because they're going to be close to the

34:00

line for most people either on one side

34:03

or on the other side. Yeah.

34:05

>> Um, you know, the big thing for me on

34:07

the motorbike is that if there

34:15

mistake, the consequences are much worse

34:17

than in a car.

34:19

However, the increased buffer space that

34:22

I can maintain on a bike and the

34:25

increased situal awareness

34:28

and increased visibility that I have

34:31

>> in my opinion with my skills as a

34:35

defensive rider. And I don't not sure if

34:37

everyone's familiar with that term, but

34:39

basically it's like being a very aware

34:43

motor vehicle operator. It's like the

34:46

opposite of being like an aggressive

34:48

driver or rider. Basically, what it

34:50

means is you are constantly looking for

34:53

how do I create the most buffer space

34:55

possible around myself. Um, on a

34:58

motorcycle, I find that easier.

35:00

>> I' I very often try to and I I've had

35:04

some actually really fun scenarios with

35:06

this in the past where you can tell that

35:07

they figured it out and they they want

35:09

to do it as well. But I'll often try to

35:11

be like a I'll try to like adopt a

35:13

biker.

35:14

Like I'll create a big buffer between

35:17

the biker and I and when we come up to

35:19

stop lights, I'll stop pretty far back

35:21

and then just make sure they always have

35:22

a ton of space. So if something bad

35:23

happens in front, they can fall back

35:25

really easily. Uh just try to make it

35:27

easier. One thing that I found really

35:29

interesting was when we try to do that

35:32

thing around Taiwan, the original plan

35:34

was scooters.

35:36

got like no push back from most people

35:39

about the scooter itself.

35:41

>> You'd have gotten push back from me.

35:43

[laughter]

35:43

>> I've ridden on a scooter in Taiwan.

35:47

I would not want to again. And I'm and

35:49

I'm a motorcyclist. Like I

35:51

>> Taipei itself is nuts.

35:53

>> Yeah.

35:53

>> It gets a lot better.

35:55

>> Uh-huh.

35:56

>> Like way better.

35:57

>> Okay.

35:58

>> But Taipei itself is is nuts. Yeah.

36:00

>> But it it was interesting to me. There

36:02

was people who suggested against it

36:06

because of a variety of different

36:07

reasons, but I've had people in my life

36:10

that are like never get on a motorcycle

36:12

ever that were like, uh, well, make sure

36:15

you're aware of these things. And I was

36:17

like, uh-huh.

36:19

>> What's the difference?

36:20

>> It was very interesting to me. I don't

36:21

know.

36:21

>> Because in my mind, most

36:24

>> the risk is the people around you,

36:26

right? Yes.

36:26

>> Yeah. So, it shouldn't matter. I'm still

36:28

fully out in the open.

36:29

>> Yeah. You have no cage.

36:30

>> Yeah. So I I found that

36:32

>> why is a scooter okay?

36:34

>> I'm not sure.

36:35

>> I think there's something

36:38

like the word motorcycle people are like

36:40

oh those are scary

36:42

>> but scooter is just such a friendly word

36:44

so it's just okay

36:45

>> maybe

36:47

>> that is

36:48

>> I mean it was it was an interesting part

36:50

of the whole thing was as I was like

36:51

telling people what I was going to do

36:53

seeing their reactions to it.

36:55

>> What what was what was your mom's

36:57

reaction?

36:58

Uh, I think I just told her I was going

37:00

around Taiwan. It'll it'll [laughter]

37:08

>> Okay.

37:09

>> Although my mom is a very pro

37:12

live life to the fullest,

37:14

>> right,

37:14

>> type of person. So, I think she would

37:17

have heard the idea and been like,

37:18

"That's pretty cool to be honest."

37:20

>> Mhm.

37:22

Which is why you didn't tell her.

37:24

[laughter]

37:25

>> [gasps]

37:25

>> Well, I don't think we even necessarily

37:27

knew like what we didn't really know

37:28

what the plan was until

37:31

very very close up to it.

37:33

>> It's interesting. So, Bookhorse

37:35

justifies this saying scooters are

37:37

typically slower and not having to

37:40

manage the clutch does make it easier,

37:43

but like

37:45

I don't know, maybe it's just cuz I've

37:46

been like I learned to drive on a on a

37:48

standard transmission, but to me the

37:50

clutch does not significantly

37:53

increase the the the mental load of

37:56

riding a motorcycle. Um,

38:01

but maybe I uh But there's so much

38:04

wobblier, says Bacon. Yeah, I've

38:06

actually I've only ridden as a Have I

38:10

ever driven a scooter? I think I only

38:12

rode as a passenger. Dennis was driving

38:14

me, which probably didn't help,

38:16

>> dude. When Dennis drove me, it was wild.

38:19

>> The weight distribution is just

38:21

>> Yeah. Oh, yeah.

38:22

>> Oh, it was horrible.

38:24

>> Yeah.

38:24

>> I felt way more secure to drive myself

38:26

around. And that is not Dennis's fault

38:28

at all. I [laughter] just I had to sit

38:30

on the back. Like it just didn't it

38:33

didn't make sense.

38:34

>> Yeah. Danvibbe says, "A clutch also

38:35

gives you more control." Yeah. Which is

38:37

which is so true. Like being able to

38:40

manually control my gears. Um and maybe

38:43

this is I don't know. Maybe this is like

38:45

a like a hubris thing. Like maybe I I

38:48

just think it does. But I've always felt

38:50

like manual control over my gears gives

38:52

me way more control. Whether we're

38:54

talking like driving in snow in a car or

38:57

whether we're talking about a

38:58

motorcycle, I I love manual gear

39:01

shifting.

39:01

>> I think it makes sense. Part of the

39:02

reason why I think it makes sense is

39:03

because uh it keeps your focus on the

39:07

act of driving more.

39:09

>> I could see

39:09

>> and like what's happening with the car

39:11

and why. Uh so you're going to pick up

39:13

on more things and be more in tune with

39:14

it. Makes sense to me. Even as someone

39:16

who doesn't do that and can't do that, I

39:19

think I understand the idea. It's like a

39:21

lot of manual processes. Yeah, I don't I

39:24

I enjoy it. How did we get on

39:26

motorcycles from 4 gig GPUs? It doesn't

39:28

matter. Let's move on. Do you want to

39:30

pick something?

39:31

>> The fan replacement, spending too too

39:33

much of a percentage on something to

39:35

replace, repair it, whatever.

39:37

>> Do people like this about this show?

39:39

[laughter]

39:39

>> Never.

39:40

>> Is this the appeal or is this the worst

39:42

part?

39:43

>> Yes, they like it. [laughter] This is

39:45

the best part.

39:46

>> Okay,

39:46

>> this is why I don't redirect you back on

39:49

topic. [laughter]

39:52

Uh, I'm I'm picking something up there.

39:54

We can't even read chat anymore. It's

39:55

going so fast.

39:56

>> Uh, Blake Ma Maverick says, "My ADD

39:58

does." Speaking of, um,

40:02

>> I asked for I asked for a goodie bag

40:05

from my doctor. Uh, so I'm actually

40:07

going to try out some short acting, uh,

40:09

ADHD medications over the next little

40:11

bit. Yeah. I It was actually a

40:14

surprisingly simple conversation. So,

40:16

uh, back when Ivonne was working at the

40:18

pharmacy, I was I've always been very

40:20

curious if it would help me focus better

40:22

in sports because, um, my my ADHD homies

40:26

out there are going to be able to relate

40:28

to this. Okay. [clears throat]

40:33

When he serves, play a net shot. When he

40:34

serves, play net shot. When he serves,

40:36

play net shot. He serves, lift. You

40:38

know, like it's just you can't like I

40:40

can't I can't retain a plan in my brain.

40:44

um when when I need that kind of focus.

40:47

And so I've I've always been kind of

40:49

curious like,

40:53

you know, if I just was on Rolin or

40:55

something like I was when I was a kid,

40:57

could [laughter] I could I play the net

40:58

shot? And so back when Ivonne was

41:00

working at the pharmacy, I was like,

41:01

"Hey, like you have pockets in the front

41:04

of your, you know, your your uh not not

41:07

robe, not apron, it's a lab coat. You

41:09

know, you got pockets. like what if a

41:11

couple what if a couple aderalls fell in

41:13

it or you know whatever, right? Um and

41:15

she she's like the straightest arrow.

41:18

She she

41:19

>> Yeah, it's never going to happen.

41:20

>> Oh, dude. Dude, she was like, "That's

41:24

actually a class whatever schedule,

41:26

whatever thing. So, if a pill goes

41:29

missing, blah blah blah." I'm like, "Do

41:30

pills go missing?" She's like, "Well,

41:32

yeah, pills go missing all the time."

41:33

And I'm like, "Okay, so then what

41:36

difference is it you if you're the one

41:37

who took it versus obviously someone

41:39

else took one at some point?" And she's

41:41

like, "Well, it's a class, whatever,

41:42

schedule, whatever." Okay, forget it.

41:44

So, she she would never smuggle me

41:46

anything. Um,

41:49

and she was always like, "Okay, yeah,

41:50

just talk to your doctor." I'm like,

41:51

"Oh, it's such a hassle. I'm probably

41:52

going to have to go see a shrink again

41:54

and blah blah blah blah blah." So, it

41:56

turns out that I was chatting with my

41:57

doctor about this, and this is not the

42:00

same one that gave me dog medications,

42:02

in case you're wondering. Um, real

42:05

doctor. And, [laughter] uh, I don't

42:07

know. Basically, I was just like,

42:08

>> it would have been funnier if it was.

42:10

>> It was a It was a phone consult.

42:14

[laughter]

42:14

>> I forget what What was that? Was that

42:16

the uh I think that was the treatment

42:18

for the bites on my arm. Yeah, that's

42:20

right. That was antibiotics. Did I ever

42:22

actually like say that? Uh-huh.

42:25

>> Oh, okay.

42:26

>> Oh, I Well,

42:27

>> I can't remember.

42:28

>> I don't know. You did to me.

42:29

>> The the the point is um I So, it was

42:32

like just a phone consult. And I was

42:34

like, "Hey, so this might be like a

42:36

weird request, but am I allowed to just

42:39

have like a like a like I literally

42:41

called it a goodie bag. Am I allowed to

42:43

have like a goodie bag of different ADHD

42:45

medications?" And she's like, "Explain."

42:49

And I'm like, "Well, okay, let me

42:51

explain. Like I was diagnosed as a kid

42:53

and I was on I was on rolin and uh my

42:56

parents to their credit after forcing me

42:58

to go on rolin. When I explained I would

43:01

really like to not do this anymore

43:02

because it completely changed my

43:04

personality. They were like okay. And

43:08

you know after a short experiment we

43:09

were off it. I got a really good report

43:11

card that term and then went back to my

43:13

usual shenanigans. Um anyway the point

43:17

is um yeah I had ADHD I have ADHD. I was

43:20

diagnosed as a kid, but like not like

43:22

every kid in the '90s was like like I

43:24

had it and um I want to use it for

43:27

sports and [laughter] and she's like, "I

43:30

[snorts] mean, is this a

43:31

performance-enhancing drug?" And I'm

43:33

like, "Well, I I'm not I'm not competing

43:35

for money. I don't think it matters."

43:38

>> Um

43:38

>> and she's like, "Okay, well, guess what?

43:40

There's all kinds of there's all kinds

43:42

of modern, you know, pills and they have

43:45

some that are like very short acting.

43:46

Like you can get ones that are only good

43:48

for like 3 to four hours." And I'm like,

43:49

"Oh, okay. So, this is basically just

43:51

like a like I can just pop like a focus

43:53

pill." She's like, "Yeah, pretty much."

43:55

And I'm like, "Okay, well, I'm going to

43:57

I'm going to give it a shot." She's

43:58

like, "Okay, so I'll give you like five

44:00

of each and uh feel free to let me know

44:03

if it works for you." I couldn't believe

44:04

how easy it was to give you to prove

44:06

your previous diagnosis or anything.

44:08

>> No, I mean, I have a pretty good

44:09

relationship with my doctor and like I

44:11

don't ask her for controlled substances

44:13

very often. [laughter]

44:15

So, I know this is a thing.

44:17

>> That's cuz if I'm going to do that, I go

44:18

to my vet. [snorts]

44:21

[laughter]

44:23

[gasps]

44:23

>> Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. I I just

44:25

love that like instantly when you said

44:27

that someone in chat, let me go see if I

44:29

can find it. [laughter] Oh, it was so

44:31

funny.

44:33

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. There it is. Wy draft

44:37

just in all capital. There's a few

44:38

people that are like, "Oh, and blah blah

44:40

blah blah blah." And Wy draft is just

44:41

all capital letters. Warn the staff. And

44:44

then a little bit goes behind. He just

44:45

says combat pay. [laughter]

44:52

>> That's funny.

44:53

>> I mean, he's probably gonna chill out.

44:54

He'll probably be sleepy at work or a

44:57

little more more chill. Isn't that

44:59

normally how it goes?

45:00

>> I don't know.

45:01

>> If he actually has ADHD, he's just going

45:03

to be like, "Yeah, I can get my work

45:04

done. This is this is fine."

45:06

>> Mr. Blonde says, "Presumably, your

45:07

doctor should have access to your

45:09

medical records." So,

45:10

>> you'd be surprised. [laughter] actually

45:12

very complicated and further complicated

45:15

by the fact that my parents split up and

45:17

couldn't agree what my name was.

45:19

>> So, um

45:20

>> I don't feel like I remember this.

45:22

>> I don't think I've ever talked to you

45:24

about this.

45:24

>> Okay.

45:25

>> I did not go by Lionus Sebastian for the

45:29

first decade of my life.

45:30

>> What's your other name?

45:32

>> Laura.

45:33

>> I'm going to keep IT A SECRET.

45:34

>> WHAT? NO.

45:37

>> Um

45:37

>> and it makes me want to break things.

45:41

[laughter]

45:41

shaking.

45:42

>> Not you. No, not him.

45:44

>> My legal name object.

45:46

>> My legal name has has always been Lina

45:50

Sebastian. So, for what it's worth, you

45:51

know, my lore accurate real name, but

45:56

everyone from my school.

45:58

>> I am so bothered. [laughter]

46:04

>> Okay. Sorry.

46:05

>> I like Ana Hikash's answer. Lionus

46:07

milkman Sebastian. [laughter]

46:12

>> Oh man.

46:13

>> Um, so, uh, where where was I going?

46:16

Yeah, every everyone from my school to

46:19

my doctors to

46:22

like random courses that I signed up for

46:25

to an entire side of my family knew me

46:28

by a different last name.

46:30

>> Last name?

46:31

>> Yeah.

46:32

>> Okay.

46:32

>> Oh, no. Like Lionus has always been

46:34

Everyone agreed on Lionus. I thought it

46:36

was first name. Last name is like

46:39

>> less.

46:40

>> And we all agreed on middle name. We all

46:41

agreed on middle name.

46:42

>> Okay. So, it's not milkman.

46:44

>> No. No. Yeah. No.

46:46

>> Last last name is is interesting, but uh

46:50

I thought it was first name and I was

46:51

like, what the hell?

46:55

[snorts]

46:56

>> Okay. All right.

46:58

Um

47:02

yeah, speaking of how the heck did we

47:03

get here? Um, so you have it. Are you

47:05

gonna try it?

47:06

>> Uh, I don't have it yet.

47:08

>> Oh, okay.

47:08

>> Yeah, I'll get it soon.

47:09

>> Gotcha.

47:10

>> Um,

47:13

>> are you doing that like crazy I don't

47:15

know if you want to talk about this, but

47:15

I think it's nuts. Are you doing that

47:17

thing where you get pills shipped to

47:18

your house now?

47:19

>> No.

47:20

>> It's wild to me that that's a thing.

47:22

>> It's wild to me that it hasn't been a

47:24

thing.

47:25

>> Both are kind of crazy

47:26

>> and that it's suddenly a thing. Yeah.

47:27

But it just seemed like everything was

47:28

so controlled needing to go throughies

47:31

and blah blah blah blah blah blah and

47:33

now they just like ship it around and

47:35

like the people shipping it.

47:39

I just feel like there's such a huge

47:41

opportunity for like

47:44

drug theft issues and stuff, but it just

47:45

seems to have never come up.

47:47

>> Is that a is that in Canada? I would

47:48

never ever want

47:50

>> It's in pills shipped at my house.

47:51

>> It is absolutely in Canada.

47:54

>> And who who talks to you about them?

47:55

Like are are people on medication?

47:57

>> It's an online pharmacy. Yeah. You just

47:59

get like basically routine like

48:01

subscription deliveries of like in some

48:03

cases some pretty serious drugs.

48:05

>> That's uh crazy.

48:06

>> It's wild. Yeah. Someone's saying common

48:08

in the USA. I I think it started down

48:10

there. Um

48:12

but yeah uh there are actually

48:15

>> a variety of them in Canada. I think

48:17

>> uhies I go to will deliver drugs to your

48:20

house now. But the pharmacy does not

48:22

like some

48:23

>> Well, this is an online pharmacy.

48:25

>> Okay. So, like a like a work home of

48:30

type of thing,

48:31

>> I guess. Maybe.

48:32

>> I don't know. It feels

48:33

>> I get my testosterone shipped to my door

48:35

from the pharmacy. I just have to show

48:36

my ID. Yeah. I mean, maybe there's

48:39

different levels. Um, the one person

48:42

that I know that gets it done uh doesn't

48:45

have to show ID, but maybe maybe there's

48:48

different maybe it depends on what

48:50

you're getting.

48:51

>> This is wild. I just I just Googled my

48:56

dad's name because the he was a milkman

48:58

at one point and

49:00

>> um so that's that's why I was like well

49:02

actually about you [laughter] know

49:04

milkman thing

49:05

>> and uh if I Google my dad's name he

49:08

actually does yield an AI response as a

49:13

person who is notable for some reason

49:16

that is enough for him to come up in an

49:18

AI summary and um

49:23

It turns out that um the thing that AI

49:27

knows him best for is as a Canadian

49:30

prolific sperm donor. [laughter]

49:40

[laughter and gasps]

49:44

So he's known for in part you

49:47

>> in a way.

49:48

>> No, I'm the one uh uh I was still

49:51

>> what's it called? um

49:55

legitimate offspring.

49:57

>> Yeah, you got addicted to it.

49:58

>> That's a form of sperm donation.

50:01

>> Well, um yeah. So, I mean I don't I

50:04

don't know if I've ever like mentioned

50:06

this on the WAN show, but I have

50:07

potentially hundreds of half siblings.

50:10

So, if you've ever like seen someone on

50:12

the street and gone like, "Wow, they

50:13

look an awful lot like Linus."

50:15

>> Maybe

50:18

>> nice. Was it during a certain period of

50:20

time? Like, would they all be a similar

50:21

age?

50:22

>> I believe so. Yeah.

50:23

>> Nice.

50:24

>> Uh, no. I think they'd all be a little

50:25

older than me.

50:26

>> A little older.

50:26

>> Yeah. My mom like was not into that.

50:29

>> So, those memes you see on Reddit every

50:30

once in a while of like, "Wow, it's a

50:33

Lionus."

50:34

>> Yeah,

50:35

>> maybe.

50:35

>> Possibly. Like,

50:36

>> yeah,

50:37

>> th this guy. Um,

50:42

>> here we go. Like, this guy could

50:45

actually be my sibling. Same with this

50:48

guy.

50:49

>> What? Same with this guy. Like these

50:51

three people could all legitimately be

50:53

siblings of mine.

50:57

>> Yeah, [laughter]

51:04

[laughter]

51:06

it is. Exen, I'm just messing with you

51:09

guys.

51:09

>> No, I got Yeah, I was like, is he really

51:12

trying to [laughter]

51:13

get that across?

51:17

Why did Why did I take this picture and

51:20

this picture? [laughter]

51:22

What was I thinking?

51:25

>> I mean, there's a lot of pictures of you

51:27

that are that are questionable.

51:30

[laughter]

51:34

Like, do I want to look like a villain?

51:35

I

51:37

Why do I just Why do I take pictures of

51:39

myself at all?

51:40

>> That one's just great. That one doesn't

51:41

bother me at all. Whatever.

51:43

>> What's this say? What's What does this

51:45

say again? Probably some sassy.

51:46

>> No. Uh,

51:49

walking something waiting to happen. Oh,

51:52

walking restraining order waiting to

51:54

happen. That's what that one said.

51:55

>> Yep. Makes sense. Yeah.

51:56

>> Warehouse one. The jean store really had

51:58

some banger t-shirts back in the day.

52:02

>> I think that's where I used to get my

52:03

shirts.

52:03

>> The one that I wore out to the point of

52:05

just like it being blessed by the pope

52:09

so full of holes. It was uh was tacked

52:11

is for people not witty enough to be

52:13

sarcastic. Um, I was I was that kind of

52:16

teenager. I'm not gonna I'm not going to

52:18

deny it. There's no point denying it.

52:20

There's literally people in float plane

52:22

chat that apparently went to high school

52:24

with me. So, there's there's no point in

52:27

pretending that I wasn't a bit of a

52:28

sassy little sometimes.

52:30

>> I had this shirt that had a picture on

52:32

the front of it of two dogs like

52:35

swimming underwater and the one dog in

52:38

the front was like farting so there was

52:40

bubbles and the text under it said like

52:42

follow the bubbles or something. I don't

52:43

remember what the text was, but it was

52:44

something like that. I used to love that

52:46

shirt. It was a long sleeve shirt. I

52:47

wore it all the time. And there's one

52:49

time [laughter] we were going for family

52:50

photos and I guess none of my neither of

52:52

my parents checked what shirt I was

52:53

wearing. [laughter] I was wearing the

52:55

like dog farting underwater shirt

52:59

and we showed up to the shoot [laughter]

53:02

and everybody was this was like we went

53:05

to some like beautiful like wedding

53:07

venue farm thing and my my grandpa was

53:10

getting like this massive like framed

53:13

photo of this. It was getting photo

53:15

edited and stuff. It was like really

53:16

this whole fancy thing. Uh and my

53:18

parents made me turn it around. So, in

53:21

the photo, I'm wearing a backwards

53:22

shirt, [laughter]

53:23

but it also had a tiny version of the

53:26

picture right here on the back. So,

53:29

there's still It's [laughter] like the

53:31

fanciest family photo we've ever had as

53:34

me with this shirt. [laughter]

53:40

Oh, man. [laughter]

53:42

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I got a lot of

53:44

stuff from that store, too. [laughter]

53:49

>> [gasps]

53:49

>> H good times.

53:52

>> Um,

53:54

[laughter]

53:55

next topic. I got one.

53:58

>> Yeah,

53:58

>> I don't know how we transition out of

53:59

that, but uh, yeah, Gogg released a

54:02

statement that they've hired a

54:03

specialist to actively explore the best

54:05

ways to approach Linux support for Gogg

54:07

Galaxy, which is awesome. GOG Galaxy,

54:09

for those that don't know, it's a

54:10

desktop app allowing users to sync all

54:12

their games from all launchers as well

54:14

as friends to have one location to

54:16

manage everything uh for your gaming

54:19

needs. Some things left out from their

54:21

post are things like timeline because I

54:24

mean the specialist is exploring the

54:26

best way to do it. So, they're

54:27

definitely not going to have a timeline

54:28

yet. How it will work, it also makes

54:30

sense. How compatibility will work with

54:32

things like uh protons. I suspect it

54:34

will run Proton, but we'll see. Uh, only

54:37

time will tell. We'll see what happens.

54:39

But that is that is exciting.

54:41

>> Very exciting. It's actually it's, you

54:44

know, for how just generally based CD

54:47

Project generally happens to be, it sort

54:51

of surprises me that this wasn't a

54:52

thing. But then also, if you think about

54:54

it, so many of these old titles in the

54:57

before four times wouldn't have been

54:59

compatible with Linux anyway. And also,

55:02

you know, it was a very small like

55:04

that's just the reality of it. It's a

55:06

very small customer base that you're

55:08

catering to. Many of whom like proudly,

55:11

you know, don't play games and that's

55:13

why Linux is totally okay for me. Like

55:15

you're in terms of your your selection

55:17

bias.

55:18

>> I see what you mean.

55:19

>> Um you're you're not doing yourself any

55:21

favors as a as a gaming forward platform

55:23

by targeting Linux traditionally. But

55:25

it's changing. It's changing so fast. I

55:29

am still running Steam OS on my main

55:33

machine upstairs

55:35

and I still

55:37

don't care at all. With that said, I've

55:40

been gaming very little lately. I've

55:42

been I've been busy doing other Oh, yes.

55:45

Hi.

55:46

>> You activated my trap card.

55:48

>> I have also gamed a little a little bit

55:51

lately. Uh and speaking of Admiral, I'm

55:54

going to talk about some remastered

55:56

games for a second. Okay. It is a

55:59

satisfy.

56:00

I promise it won't be way too long. I

56:03

promise won't be way too long.

56:05

>> Setting a timer. The reason why No, no,

56:06

no, no, no, no, no. I'm setting a timer.

56:08

Okay. You have

56:10

>> You have

56:13

How long should I give him? You have

56:18

three minutes.

56:19

>> Three minutes.

56:19

>> You have three minutes to talk about

56:21

five at least. Well, cuz I'm also

56:22

talking about Halo.

56:23

>> You've got four.

56:25

>> Okay. Go.

56:25

>> Okay. Uh, I played a little bit of

56:28

Assassin's Creed Black Flag recently.

56:30

Wonderful remake. I when I first jumped

56:32

in, I I had the reaction of like, oh,

56:34

the graphics are okay, but they're not

56:36

that great. And I have now improved my

56:38

opinion on them where, especially after

56:40

seeing the Halo remake, I think the

56:42

graphics are way better.

56:44

>> Because something that the graphics did

56:45

was they made me think

56:47

>> this is Black Flag. This is what Black

56:49

Flag looked like. Right.

56:50

>> And then you go back and look at Black

56:51

Flag footage and you're like, "Oh god,

56:53

no. This is way better."

56:55

>> Matching the nostalgia filter is

56:57

actually pretty challenging

56:59

>> to the point where I'm stunned how well

57:00

they did it. It's not like perfect. This

57:03

is a video game from 2026, Blackmith,

57:05

Wukong, whatever. But it it perfectly

57:08

matches my nostalgia glasses in a way

57:12

that is just fantastic. Then you look at

57:14

Halo,

57:15

not the same thing at all. They

57:17

completely wrecked the aesthetic. It it

57:20

does not look I haven't even played it.

57:22

I've looked at a bunch of videos of it.

57:24

Wow. It looks some of the comments under

57:26

very wrong. I did I did also read the

57:28

com, but I did watch the videos. It

57:30

looks very wrong. And I think this is

57:32

interesting uh because if you look at

57:34

the Steam current players, I checked

57:36

this uh Okay, so 23,000 for the 24-hour

57:39

peak, 17ish. Now, I checked this a

57:42

little while ago. Fairly similar

57:44

numbers. Um if I look,

57:46

>> it's been very flat, very consistent.

57:48

>> Yeah. And um You know, that's just total

57:50

Steam users at the top. Never mind.

57:51

>> It's been around. It's been out for a

57:53

while now. 19 days ago, peak of 100,000.

57:56

>> Mhm.

57:57

>> Like, it's this isn't

57:59

>> a a completely brand new game anymore. A

58:02

lot of people will have played it and

58:03

then already fallen off,

58:04

>> right?

58:04

>> Then I look at Halo Campaign Evolved.

58:07

>> Is that out now?

58:08

>> I didn't even realize it was out.

58:09

>> Yeah.

58:10

>> When did it come out? Did it come out

58:11

this week?

58:11

>> It came out very recently. Alltime peak

58:14

was three days ago.

58:17

and it is getting mogged.

58:21

If you think about the launch of Halo,

58:23

the original Halo, and you compare that

58:26

to the launch of Assassin's Creed Black

58:29

Flag, like Black Flag was an incredible

58:30

game.

58:31

>> Yeah,

58:31

>> but you can't look at me with a straight

58:33

face as someone who freaking loves Black

58:35

Flag and tell me that Black Flag had

58:37

more hype around it than Halo.

58:38

>> Oh, heavens no.

58:39

>> You can't tell me that there's more

58:40

Assassin's Creed fans than there is Halo

58:41

fans. I mean, I will say though, was

58:44

Assassin's Creed Black Flag the one that

58:46

was hype enough that we did like a

58:48

dedicated performance video on it?

58:50

>> I think so, but that was largely because

58:52

I was trying to push it super hard. It

58:54

was very hype though. People did really

58:56

like Assassin's Creed Black Flag. It was

58:58

generally seen as a very positive game.

58:59

It was a little bit conflicting cuz it's

59:01

it stepped away quite far from the

59:04

actual being an assassin side of things

59:08

>> and you were more of a pirate and you

59:09

sailed the ship and did things like

59:10

that. Um

59:13

Oh, yeah. Assassin's Creed. Wait, no,

59:15

>> we didn't. I thought we did.

59:16

>> AC4. Is it AC4?

59:18

>> Yeah. Yeah, it is.

59:19

>> Okay. It was a different video. I was

59:20

thinking of I was thinking of uh Yes.

59:22

Here we go. So, we apparently did two

59:25

videos on Assassin's Creed.

59:26

>> Hell yeah.

59:27

>> See, you can see AC fanboy. I'm wearing

59:29

the shirt from it.

59:30

>> Literally an influencer.

59:32

>> Uh no one cared. So, that's cool.

59:34

>> Hell yeah. Um, but the one that I was

59:36

actually thinking of was this one where

59:39

we did nextG console versus PC and we

59:42

used Battlefield 4 video that's autoplay

59:44

game

59:45

>> and we used u Assassin's Creed 4 and uh

59:48

Battlefield 4 as our um as our image

59:51

quality comparisons. So this this was

59:53

actually a pretty fun video. It was a

59:55

lot of man this was so much work.

59:57

>> A lot of work. Um, I think this was the

60:01

last video that I had a hand in editing.

60:06

>> Because I had to catch a plane the next

60:09

day and um some of the some of So, you

60:15

see how these these crappy uh text

60:18

insert things are the same ones that we

60:20

use on the WAN show. Same font, same

60:24

drop shadow, same everything. It's

60:26

because we didn't get all of the

60:29

finalized.

60:30

Um, yeah, we're out of time. So, this is

60:33

it. This is time. Okay. Well, we won't

60:35

talk about that anymore.

60:37

>> What?

60:40

>> I I don't make the rules.

60:41

>> That was you, though.

60:42

>> That's the rules. I don't make the

60:43

rules.

60:44

>> You said the limit was for me talking

60:45

about it, was it not?

60:46

>> Oh, that's true, actually.

60:47

>> You were talking about it.

60:48

>> All right, fine. So, um, I didn't finish

60:51

all the screen cap for this until like

60:53

really late and everyone had gone home

60:55

already. And in order for us to get that

60:57

day's upload done, given that I was

60:59

gonna like be on the plane to the middle

61:02

of butt nowhere somewhere the next day

61:04

or something like that, I had to I had

61:06

to have one of the editors just like

61:09

throw everything on the timeline for me

61:12

and then I had to go and I had to put

61:14

all of the screen cap in and then I had

61:17

to like figure out how to export it. Um,

61:20

>> wait, I thought this was a me video.

61:22

>> No, this was me.

61:24

>> Huh.

61:25

Yeah,

61:26

look at that guy.

61:27

>> No, I know you're hosting it

61:28

>> wearing the old uh

61:29

>> Yeah, see there I am.

61:30

>> Yep.

61:31

>> I thought I was doing the capture.

61:32

>> You did a bunch of the setup, but it

61:34

wasn't done.

61:35

>> And there were like reasons that it like

61:37

couldn't be finished and I had to I had

61:39

to do it.

61:39

>> Got it.

61:40

>> The last one that I edited fully, fun

61:42

fact, uh Corsair Stamp.

61:50

This is great. Wy, look at this. What?

61:54

>> Remember when Corsair changed their logo

61:56

to that stamp thing?

61:57

>> Yeah.

61:58

>> Yeah.

61:58

>> How long did that last?

62:00

>> Um

62:02

I don't actually remember.

62:04

>> It can't have been very long.

62:09

>> Yeah, this this is the this is the last

62:11

video that I fully edited.

62:15

>> Not this. Get out of here.

62:17

>> And I remember when we used to do like

62:18

this is how you uh make brushed aluminum

62:21

and stuff. I don't think people watched

62:23

they watched this.

62:26

>> I don't think people watched the like

62:27

fake brush aluminum.

62:28

>> This was pretty topical.

62:30

>> Yes, it was. This was very topical.

62:31

>> Yeah.

62:34

>> Just in case I need it for later. A

62:35

Scooby snack.

62:38

>> And I don't know. This is the kind of

62:40

thing I feel like I couldn't get away

62:41

with anymore where I'm just like, "Oh, I

62:44

know what to do. I need a Corsair logo.

62:46

I'm just going to

62:49

um destroy the front of this case.

62:52

>> Oh my god. [laughter]

62:54

Oh my god.

62:56

>> More of that, please.

62:58

>> Oh my god. [laughter]

62:59

>> Please.

63:00

>> I remember this now cuz I remember that

63:03

case.

63:03

>> Oh my god.

63:04

>> But oh my god.

63:06

>> Can we do that more, please?

63:08

>> I don't think we need to do that more. I

63:10

don't think people want to see it

63:12

anymore. I don't uh like there. It was a

63:14

It was a It's one of those things I

63:16

hate. It's such a like

63:17

>> product of his time.

63:18

>> Old meme. Yeah. But like it was a

63:20

different time, right?

63:23

>> That's fascinating.

63:24

>> Yeah, I know, right? [laughter]

63:26

>> I What I I remember how to make plastic

63:28

look like brushed aluminum.

63:29

>> How do I make a whole 5 minutee video

63:31

about that? I don't know. I still don't

63:36

know, Luke. And we actually had um two

63:41

sponsor spots on it. It's a 5 minute

63:43

8-second video with two sponsor spots on

63:46

it.

63:48

>> Hey, this was actually not too bad.

63:52

>> Glossy to brush plastic DIY experiment

63:54

addressing functionality and appearance.

63:56

What? What a

63:57

>> anti-clickbait title [laughter] titled

64:01

Steve named that? [snorts]

64:03

>> Oh my god. And then you can

64:05

>> gravy. see the like different

64:09

I mean the thumbnail actually does a

64:10

pretty good job of explaining what we're

64:11

going to do.

64:12

>> Yeah, kind of.

64:14

Eliminating glossy plastic for good.

64:17

Maybe it's just hard for me to read it

64:19

from here.

64:20

>> Oh, no. I mean the like Yeah, probably

64:22

cuz I mean the text that's under that on

64:24

the individual surfaces.

64:25

>> Oh yeah.

64:25

>> 3M heavy, 3M final, 3M contour surface

64:28

stripping.

64:28

>> 3M

64:29

>> steel wool grade zero steel wool grade

64:31

three and sandpaper.

64:32

>> Oh my goodness. All right. Did it work?

64:34

I don't remember. You're using like a

64:36

router or something, I think. Right.

64:38

This was 11 years ago. That's crazy.

64:40

>> Yeah. Yeah. So, for like that many views

64:43

11 years ago,

64:45

>> no, it's not great.

64:46

>> Really? I don't think so. Can we do a

64:48

lot of the videos that came with that?

64:49

>> Cuz the Cuz the the the evergreen stuff

64:52

that did well. If anything, it like

64:54

accumulates views.

64:56

>> I guess this probably could have been

64:58

evergreen, but the the war against

65:00

glossy plastic kind of ended.

65:02

>> Did it?

65:03

>> I feel like it kind of did. Is glossy

65:05

plastic still like a thing?

65:06

>> I don't feel like people hate it as much

65:07

as they used to.

65:08

>> I'm trying to think if it's even

65:09

>> in this era. It was like every single

65:11

review of any product that had glossy

65:13

plastic in it on YouTube, people would

65:15

call it out. Like it was it was a huge

65:17

deal back then.

65:18

>> I think that's really true. Yeah. Yeah.

65:20

It's not a huge deal anymore. Yeah.

65:22

>> Yeah. We don't really We don't really

65:24

talk about it anymore. It's definitely

65:26

it's it's definitely still a thing.

65:29

>> But maybe we just avoid it. It

65:30

>> doesn't look that bad. It doesn't look

65:32

great.

65:34

I mean, it looks better than glossy

65:36

plastic, which was which was the

65:38

objective.

65:38

>> That's pretty much the goal. That's a

65:40

really long shot.

65:43

>> My god. [laughter]

65:45

>> You know what though? I actually prefer

65:47

a long shot if you're talking about

65:49

something compared to ripping it away

65:52

from me before I'm I I often talk to our

65:55

very Gen Z editors in my like Frame.io

65:58

notes. They'll be like, "Hey, leave this

66:00

here for literally twice as long."

66:02

Because two things. Number one, I'm

66:06

still talking about it. So, you're like

66:07

you're like ripping away the thing that

66:09

that my eyes want to be looking at while

66:11

I listen to what's going on with it. And

66:14

B, uh, a lot of people watch at 1 and a

66:16

half to 2x speed. And it's at that

66:19

speed, it's literally like not even on

66:21

screen for long enough to even process

66:23

what you're looking at. So, we really

66:24

need to put this on for longer. Um, but

66:26

I I feel like that's part of that is

66:28

just like, okay, grandpa, uh, who needs

66:32

longer to, you know, process what's on

66:33

the screen. The other thing is like

66:35

second screen, I like giving people a

66:36

chance to, okay, we're talking about

66:38

this thing, like have it still be there

66:39

when we look at it, but it's just, you

66:42

can just tell like their mindset about

66:44

it is totally different. They're just

66:45

like, well, we've seen it now, move on.

66:47

Like,

66:50

hold on, [laughter] hold on a second.

66:53

Hold on.

66:55

[snorts]

66:57

Um maybe get your editor some ADHD meds.

67:00

No, I mean we I do feel that as a

67:04

company we're probably over represented

67:07

for certain certain neuro

67:09

>> divergent

67:11

what

67:12

[laughter]

67:13

I think uh I think somebody once said to

67:15

me before that if you uh were to forget

67:17

your medication when you got to work

67:19

like we have all of them. [laughter]

67:23

>> I don't want to hear that.

67:24

[clears throat] that no exchange of

67:26

medication ever happens on these

67:28

premises. Oh, no. We just It's the same

67:30

one.

67:34

Not what I meant, Daniel.

67:38

[laughter]

67:42

Oh boy. Anywh who, what are we supposed

67:44

to be doing? Uh, yes. CW announcement.

67:47

Oh. Oh, yes. Where's mine?

68:02

Look, do you want to grab the page

68:04

>> while we talk about CW announcements?

68:07

>> Sorry, I was checking actually fairly

68:08

important message, but it is it is all

68:10

good.

68:11

>> Do that when there's not dead air.

68:13

>> Yeah, sorry. I didn't realize there was

68:15

dead air for a second. Uh, okay.

68:19

>> There we go. Now you can go back to

68:20

ignoring us. Oh yeah,

68:24

>> that's sick.

68:25

>> Oh, wait. I Oh, I looked I'm looking at

68:27

the wrong thing. Uh, but here it is.

68:29

Yes, this week we're introducing another

68:33

Denisen of the land of Siberia,

68:37

the percussive maintenance technician.

68:40

The artwork is packed with fun little

68:43

details from the Siberia employee badge

68:47

to the USBs hanging off of our

68:49

technician. It's another look into the

68:52

growing lore of Siberia. You guys might

68:54

remember we did the map of Siberia

68:56

deskpad and oh man, I came up with

68:59

another really fun one. I have to send

69:01

this to Lisa. I want to add Light Peak

69:03

to the to the Siberia lore.

69:06

>> Um and it would be a mountain, but you

69:08

remember Light Peak, right?

69:09

>> Yeah, I think so.

69:11

>> It was the code name for Thunderbolt

69:13

during development.

69:14

>> So, yeah, I want to add Light Peak.

69:16

Anyway, the point is, um,

69:19

this is alongside our cleanup wizard and

69:21

alongside our map of Siberia. We're just

69:23

kind of I don't know. Basically, this is

69:25

just like a Lisa initiative that um,

69:29

grew legs and a big club and uh,

69:34

>> wow.

69:34

>> And a big shoulder protector. What's up?

69:36

>> I guess people liked it.

69:38

>> Which one?

69:39

>> Uh, I mean large XL, double XL, and

69:42

triple XL are all sold out. We might

69:44

just be we might just be out of black

69:45

blanks.

69:46

>> Oh, the blanks.

69:47

>> Yeah, it it depends on our stock of

69:49

blanks, which we're working on having

69:51

more consistent stock.

69:52

>> Anyway, available in our classic black

69:54

poly blend tee or a limited run tie dye.

69:59

Yes, we are still trying to get rid of

70:02

these LTX23 tie dyes.

70:04

>> When I walked onto the set, Dan was

70:05

like, "Oh, there's shirts for you." And

70:06

I saw this one. I was like, "We still

70:08

have those." [laughter]

70:11

>> It's not so much that we still have

70:12

them. It's that we have them again. We

70:15

found more pallets of them.

70:17

>> How?

70:18

>> I don't know, Luke.

70:19

>> I thought we just did like an audit

70:21

thing.

70:21

>> I don't know, Luke.

70:23

>> Where do we keep finding stuff?

70:25

>> Inia. I don't know. [laughter]

70:29

>> Wild.

70:31

>> Anyway, this is a 100% cotton tie-dye.

70:35

Anyway, both have a durable, high

70:37

quality print. Built to survive more

70:40

abuse than your hardware probably will.

70:42

shop the percussive maintenance tech

70:43

t-shirt at lmg.ggussivemaintenance.

70:48

Um, [clears throat]

70:49

>> or if you don't know how to spell and

70:51

type all that stuff out, it's a huge

70:53

banner when you go to the site. So, you

70:54

can just go to ltdttore.com and it's

70:56

right there.

70:56

>> Yep. And while you're on LTD store, if

70:58

you add literally anything to your cart,

71:01

like say for example this wonderful

71:04

t-shirt that I'm wearing, and you go

71:06

ahead and check out, you will see that

71:08

when we are live, you can send a

71:10

checkout message. Yay, comes.

71:14

That's right. When Luke and I stream, we

71:16

don't really believe in you throwing

71:17

money at your screen and getting nothing

71:19

in return. Instead, you should throw

71:21

money at your screen. You should get

71:22

high quality merchandise in return. And

71:24

hey, I mean, since you're throwing money

71:26

at your screen and we're streaming,

71:27

maybe we will also respond to your

71:29

message. So Dan sometimes does little

71:32

replies like you can see up at the top

71:33

of the screen right now. U sometimes Dan

71:36

does I did this out of order. Whatever.

71:38

Producer Dan. Okay, we got the wave in.

71:40

Nice. Um, and sometimes he curates it.

71:43

Okay, Dan, show them what a curated

71:44

checkout message looks like. Well, they

71:46

can hear it. They can't see it, but hi

71:48

Wayne.L. Last week you discussed the

71:50

difficulty keeping product interest up.

71:53

Do you think this is due to the

71:56

historically longer restock times?

71:59

>> Uh, I think it is definitely a

72:02

significant contributor. It is something

72:05

that we're trying to work on. Like it

72:07

wasn't that noticeable with the cables

72:09

because the demand was so much greater

72:13

than the supply. But one of the things

72:15

that we did do in order to have our

72:17

restock land earlier was after at the

72:21

initial launch, we already had raw cable

72:23

stock that was pre-produced and ready

72:26

for us to to make whatever turned out to

72:28

be the most popular sizes.

72:30

>> That was really smart. And I had people

72:31

reach out pointing out that was really

72:34

smart. Like that work in the industry

72:36

that deal with products

72:38

>> cuz we didn't know what the what the

72:40

main cable lengths were going to be. And

72:42

especially because we have cable lengths

72:45

that are kind of non-standard cable

72:46

lengths. So we were going into this

72:48

going, okay, well there is no market

72:50

data that we can study to know how many

72:53

people are going to buy a a a

72:58

4 meter cable. We don't know that. Um

73:02

and also we had no way of knowing how

73:04

people would react to that. Would they

73:06

go, "Oh, ew, that's weird. I don't want

73:08

that. That's not the right cable size."

73:10

Or would they go, "Holy crap, I've

73:12

always wanted a cable that is like this

73:14

much shorter than my other cable so that

73:16

it like perfectly fits. I will buy only

73:20

that one." We had no idea which way it

73:22

was going to go. So, we had a whole

73:23

bunch of cable stock ready to go. And

73:24

then we actually air shipped a bunch of

73:26

it so that we could kind of have waves

73:28

of restocking and alleviate some of the

73:30

pressure. Uh we did the same thing with

73:32

the socks. We actually have materials

73:34

staged already. So the next order the of

73:37

socks now that they're they're all like

73:40

[sighs] I feel like we're victims of our

73:42

own success on these last couple

73:43

launches like we have left so much

73:46

revenue on the table. But the flip side

73:47

of it is that if you go the other way

73:48

you end up overstocked and then it's a

73:50

disaster. So there it's a balancing act.

73:52

So the point is with the socks we do

73:54

have material stage. We are going to

73:55

bring it in sooner. But yes, you're

73:57

absolutely right, Michael, that um our

73:59

long restock times

74:02

um do, I think, contribute to people

74:05

just not being able to rely on, oh, I I

74:09

need something. I want something. I'm

74:11

just going to go to LT store and they'll

74:13

have it in stock. And it's something

74:15

that we are we're constantly working on,

74:17

but is always weighed against that. We

74:20

know that new new product launches tend

74:22

to perform really well and help us have

74:25

the the revenue and the momentum that we

74:27

need in order to keep product

74:28

development going. Um,

74:32

running a business is hard. I had a

74:35

friend in the industry. We were talking

74:37

about something completely unrelated and

74:39

we ended up on the subject of just like

74:40

how's business and they basically made

74:43

an offhand remark to me that was like

74:46

any direct to consumer brand that makes

74:48

it through 2026 can handle anything. Um

74:53

the the war stories that we're hearing

74:56

right now

74:57

>> from everywhere

74:58

>> from basically everywhere. Like I was I

75:01

was talking to Taran cuz I was basically

75:02

we had like our Q2 financial meeting

75:05

which you were in um and I was like I

75:08

was looking at CW and I'm like okay just

75:11

so that I understand you know revenue do

75:14

this you know like flattish upish

75:16

whatever uh profit do this um can we

75:21

just can we talk about this a little bit

75:23

and uh he was basically just like yeah

75:25

well between you know fuel costs

75:28

inflation

75:30

having to maintain the multiple

75:32

logistics hubs in order to mitigate some

75:35

of the tariff. Um

75:38

>> the extremely dramatic song and dance

75:40

around tariffs.

75:42

>> Yep. Um it was like Yeah. It was like a

75:45

like a like a well into double digits

75:47

hit

75:48

>> like a lot of manufacturing.

75:50

>> It's tough right now. when when when

75:51

America was largely targeting China with

75:54

tariffs, a lot of manufacturing that you

75:57

know believed the stated tariffs would

75:59

stay around for more than two weeks um

76:02

genuinely tried to like pick up shop and

76:04

move to other countries. That has

76:07

extreme cost to it. It also has extreme

76:09

cost to it when you get 25% of the way

76:12

through that operation

76:14

>> uh and then cancel it and go back to

76:17

trying to operate in China. um and in

76:19

some cases try to rehire all the people

76:21

that you just dropped off or whatever

76:23

else. And those costs get passed on to

76:27

the people that are trying to sell the

76:28

goods that are being made at the

76:29

factories.

76:30

>> To be clear, not all of it. We've

76:32

clearly, you know, based on the

76:33

conversation that we were having during

76:35

our Q2 discussion, we've absorbed a lot

76:37

of it. We, you know, we want

76:41

>> No, no. I was saying the costs go to

76:42

you.

76:43

>> Oh, yeah. Well, they also go to the

76:44

consumer

76:45

>> in some cases.

76:46

>> It's both. It's both. I mean the

76:48

difference in the in the price of our

76:50

cases probably

76:51

>> on the global site versus the US site. I

76:54

feel like

76:56

we kind of we kind of dodge a bullet on

76:58

it. I mean, me bringing it up is just

77:00

going to like bring it up now, but I

77:03

feel like a lot of um a lot of the a lot

77:07

of Americans have a very sort of America

77:10

central sort of worldview and um you

77:14

know as as being America's hat all these

77:17

years um we are acutely aware of things

77:20

like exchange rates and things like you

77:24

know the the challenges of international

77:27

travel whereas like I frequently

77:29

encounter Americans who are just like,

77:31

"Well, yeah, everything is priced in US

77:33

dollars and I don't need a passport to

77:34

go anywhere that I would want to go."

77:36

And I'm like, "Well, okay." Uh, like the

77:38

the percentage of Canadians who hold a

77:40

passport compared to Americans is like

77:42

wildly higher because so so much of, you

77:45

know, like vacation destinations or

77:47

whatever else, like you want to go

77:48

somewhere hot, you sure as heck aren't

77:49

going anywhere in Canada. Um, with the

77:52

exception of, you know, the summer

77:53

certain places. Uh anyway, the point is

77:55

just that um you know, as a as a as a

77:59

Canadian or an Australian or you know,

78:01

anywhere that doesn't just get to shop

78:04

in their own currency all the time, you

78:07

tend to be acutely aware of exchange

78:09

rates. So when I go on to a store, like

78:12

I'm just I'm automatically like, oh,

78:14

like what is that in my currency? What

78:16

is that in US dollars? What is that? I'm

78:18

kind of doing the conversions. Whereas

78:20

we haven't really taken a ton of flak

78:21

for the fact that our socks are way

78:23

cheaper on the global site compared to

78:25

the US site. Uh even though it's 33

78:28

something I think versus like 30. Um but

78:32

that's Canadian.

78:33

>> It's $33.99 versus $29.99.

78:36

>> Yeah. So that's $29.99.

78:38

So times like 1.38 or 1.4 right now or

78:42

something like that. So, it's actually

78:44

like $40 Canadian dollars on the US

78:47

site, but most Americans won't do that

78:49

conversion. So,

78:52

yeah. 42. That's a yikes. Is the CAD

78:54

that bad right now?

78:55

>> Yeah.

78:58

>> Okay.

79:01

>> Oh, man.

79:04

1.4.

79:06

Look at her go. [laughter]

79:12

Yeah. [laughter]

79:15

Hey, I mean, whatever. You didn't eat

79:17

any red bell peppers, did you? Do they

79:20

Do they grow red bell peppers in

79:22

America?

79:25

What are you looking at?

79:26

>> Uh, just sadness. Um, anyways,

79:29

[laughter] um,

79:29

>> another comp.

79:30

>> Oh, Mexico apparently. Apparently, it's

79:33

a big uh Oh, yeah. Yeah. United States

79:36

shows up on there in the in the AI

79:38

summary. Yeah, sure. Hit me with another

79:40

com. Hello. DLL. Hope your week has been

79:43

wonderful. I bought a flipper zero in

79:45

Canada. Whatever happened with the

79:47

legislation around them? Any cool

79:50

projects to recommend? Love from

79:51

Saskatoon.

79:52

>> Oh, that's a really good question. I uh

79:55

I

79:56

never heard or thought about it ever

79:58

again.

80:02

>> The Flip Zero?

80:04

>> No, the legislation around potentially

80:05

banning them.

80:06

>> I never heard about that either. And

80:07

they still seem for sale. So, so

80:09

apparently nothing really happened. As

80:12

for cool projects to recommend, uh, do

80:14

you mean with the flipper zero or do you

80:16

just mean like random cool projects?

80:18

Because, uh, I built one of these.

80:26

>> Oh, he's not going to have any. So, keep

80:28

going. Cool. I built one of these on my

80:31

vacation and it was pretty cool. I am

80:34

still trying to figure out how to Well,

80:37

whatever. You can get them places other

80:39

than Amazon. I bought it somewhere other

80:40

than Amazon. I sent uh I sent Luke a

80:43

picture of this, I think.

80:45

>> Little video.

80:45

>> This is a working steam engine.

80:48

>> So sick.

80:50

>> I still have to get like a special steam

80:52

engine oil that actually finally just

80:55

shipped today. I called around to local

80:56

hobby stores and they were like, this is

80:59

so funny. I called one of them and I was

81:01

like, "Hey, so bit of a longshot, you

81:05

know, question." And he he replies like

81:07

he like cuts me off practically. He's

81:09

like, "Haha, there's no such thing as a

81:10

longshot question. We, you know, we get

81:13

that all the time. What can I do for

81:14

you?" And I'm like, "I need steam engine

81:16

oil." And he's like, "Oh, yeah. Not for

81:20

a long time." [laughter]

81:22

>> Okay.

81:24

Anyway, I still I still I still need to

81:26

get some steam engine oil. I can't find

81:28

>> Does it run off of the oil or is oil for

81:32

Okay. So, what is its fuel then? Like

81:35

>> I'mma let you guess.

81:36

>> Coal.

81:38

>> Uh oh. Well, okay. Yeah. Fuel. So, it

81:41

uses alcohol.

81:42

>> Okay.

81:43

>> So, under here is an alcohol.

81:45

>> Oh, yeah. I didn't mean Oh my god.

81:50

>> No, the steam engine oil is just oil.

81:51

So, steam engine oil, you can't just use

81:53

any oil. There's like substitutes that

81:55

you could like maybe use for a little

81:56

bit, but it has like animal tallow in it

81:59

because Yeah. It wants to be like a

82:01

healthier oil, you know? So you could

82:04

French fries. Okay, it doesn't matter.

82:05

The point is uh you put [laughter]

82:08

it

82:10

>> you put alcohol

82:12

you put alcohol in the reservoir down

82:14

here which like pops out on the other

82:16

side. Here you go. Here you go. There's

82:17

a there's a good view of it. Um

82:20

and then it burns and it heats up the

82:23

water that's in this reservoir up here.

82:26

>> And then Oh yeah, here there there's a

82:28

cool cutaway. Uh there's like a a

82:30

pressure relief valve here. And then

82:32

this is actually basically your like

82:33

throttle. So this determines how much

82:36

steam is allowed to go through here.

82:38

This smoke stack doesn't smoke. Uh I was

82:40

very disappointed by that.

82:42

>> Uh the exhaust is actually Oh, you can't

82:45

see it on this cutaway. Uh you can't see

82:47

it here either. Gosh darn it. Where's

82:48

the darn exhaust?

82:49

>> Is it lying then?

82:51

>> Cuz that picture shows shows a bunch of

82:53

smoke coming out of the stack, does it

82:54

not?

82:54

>> Oh, did it? I don't know. I didn't see.

82:57

>> So beautiful. Anyway, the exhaust comes

82:58

out this side. Um, and then yeah, so

83:03

this reservoir right here gets filled

83:05

with steam engine oil, which has animal

83:07

tallow in it apparently. It's every The

83:10

reason I keep bringing it up, it's like

83:11

every article I found, it's like, "You

83:12

need the one with the animal tallow."

83:13

I'm like, "Okay, all right. All right,

83:14

all right, all right." Uh, and then it

83:16

goes into here, and then um, basically

83:19

the piston goes up and down and it spins

83:21

this thing. And there's a reverse gear,

83:23

so you can actually run it either way.

83:26

And I'm so excited and I'm going to cool

83:28

a steam machine with it.

83:32

So, I built this on my vacation so that

83:35

I can bring it into the office and

83:36

figure out how to hook it up to the

83:38

cooling fan.

83:39

>> You'll find a way

83:40

>> on a steam machine. So, I'm going to

83:41

have the steam powered steam machine.

83:43

>> Yeah.

83:44

>> And um it will probably get like 300,000

83:47

views, but it's okay because I got to

83:49

build a little model steam engine and

83:52

expense it.

83:52

>> Did you film any of it? Are you just

83:54

going to show up with a built steam

83:55

engine?

83:56

>> I took a I took a couple videos. I did

83:58

it with the kids. So, it was like it was

83:59

like a fun little crafting. It didn't

84:01

take very long. Really expensive. Like

84:03

this. I did pay

84:05

>> pretty wickedly expensive

84:06

>> that much for it. But like these are all

84:09

little precision cast or precision

84:13

machined parts. Like you put together

84:16

all of this.

84:19

>> Yeah.

84:19

>> Over on the left here. Um,

84:22

>> I mean, if you're doing it with your

84:23

kids, too, that's probably fun in an

84:24

educational way.

84:25

>> Yeah. No, it was

84:26

>> fun in an educational way is maybe not

84:28

the easiest thing to ever

84:30

>> get.

84:31

>> No, it was it was really fun. It was

84:33

really cool.

84:33

>> I I I Googled desktop steam engine and

84:36

the second I got past the products

84:38

listing. Wait for it. Okay. Sponsored

84:40

products, actual popular products.

84:42

>> Nice.

84:43

>> Steam machine. [laughter]

84:45

>> Nice.

84:47

>> Makes sense.

84:50

Oh man, my back's sore. I played tennis

84:54

today. I don't play tennis.

84:56

>> And so it's just like just like

84:58

>> different movements.

84:59

>> Yeah, different movements, motions. It

85:01

was really sunny.

85:03

>> Tired.

85:03

>> Oh, you're outdoors.

85:06

>> Nice.

85:06

>> Nice.

85:07

>> Nice. Uh, next up,

85:11

speaking of Steam engines,

85:14

uh, Valve released the official Steam

85:16

Machine CAD files, giving modders and

85:17

manufacturers the tools to create custom

85:19

shells and designs. The community

85:21

announcement also included updates on

85:22

FSR 4.1 support and Steam Machine

85:25

reservations. The CAD release comes as

85:28

Dbrand shifts its Steam Machine plans

85:30

after its portal inspired companion cube

85:32

case was shelved over Valve trademark

85:35

concerns. The company now appears to be

85:36

focusing on skins instead of cases. I

85:41

guess

85:42

>> that makes sense.

85:44

>> Sure.

85:46

Uh, discussion question. What are your

85:47

plans for LMG's steam machine? Are we

85:50

going to dress that bad boy up? Well, I

85:52

guess you're going to cool it with a

85:53

steam engine. So, that's been answered.

85:55

>> Yeah.

85:56

>> Um,

85:57

what do you Okay, this is really long.

85:59

What do you think of a world where it's

86:01

common practice for console PC case TV

86:03

manufacturers to release CAD files? I

86:05

want all my tech to have cute little

86:07

devil horns or look like the Batman

86:10

logo. Gosh darn it.

86:13

>> Fantastic.

86:13

>> Yeah, they should.

86:14

>> I I think that would be wonderful. Um,

86:16

>> by Glow Circuit, I get a commission.

86:18

Okay, that's all.

86:21

>> Do you Is it like That's That's this

86:23

thing, right? So, there's the collab

86:24

thing.

86:24

>> Yeah,

86:24

>> that's cool.

86:25

>> Yeah. They're our rap partner Dbrand.

86:27

>> Yeah. And it's not like yo yo yo dbrand

86:31

yo like it's not like that kind of rap.

86:33

>> It's the other kind of raping things. Y

86:37

>> um no

86:39

>> well I don't personally get a

86:40

commission. Linus Media Group

86:41

Incorporated gets a commission and then

86:44

you know people like Colton get paid

86:46

presumably. I think we pay him. [snorts]

86:48

>> Nah, he got fired. Um

86:51

Valve seems uh like one of the coolest

86:54

most consumerfriendly tech companies

86:56

lately. Who else is making a case for

86:58

that title? I don't know who else is

87:00

taking that much profit margin.

87:02

>> It's It's one of those things. It's like

87:03

when the when the good times are good,

87:07

everything's good. It takes a It takes a

87:08

a truly special sort of evil. When the

87:12

good times are rolling and you like act

87:15

real evil, um

87:18

I I I I don't know. I don't know what a

87:20

Valve will would look like if they

87:22

didn't have the luxury of an unlimited

87:25

money printing machine.

87:26

>> Yeah. Because they just take massive

87:28

percentages from developers.

87:30

>> Yeah.

87:30

>> And Valve also, you know, participates

87:33

in

87:34

stuff that, you know, we're not really

87:36

huge fans of. Um

87:40

the way that they've turned a blind eye

87:42

to, you know, gambling on skins. Um

87:47

not like super admirable. they turned a

87:49

blind like encouraged it in a lot of

87:51

ways. Only recently, I think, have they

87:53

taken any steps at all to not encourage

87:57

it. So, it's I mean, I like I like

88:01

Steam. I like Valve. Um I think if you

88:04

want to look at a lot of companies at a

88:05

similar size, they're doing a lot better

88:07

about a lot of things. Um

88:10

>> Yep.

88:10

>> But it just I I don't agree with the

88:12

like

88:14

>> they're a good guy. Full stop.

88:16

>> Yeah. uh objectively

88:18

>> the like constant like bootlickery kind

88:20

of stuff. I'm not I'm not super into it,

88:22

>> but is what it is.

88:24

>> Um if if you do, hey, all power to you.

88:30

Um speaking of not all power to you,

88:32

deleting files is illegal now is the is

88:34

the title of this one. Uh it's a little

88:37

it's a little

88:39

>> this is a little bit of a school of

88:42

clickbait going on. Um

88:44

>> I don't know. I actually think this is

88:46

legitimately pretty scary.

88:47

>> It is, but uh it's an intense title.

88:52

It's not even necessarily wrong. It's

88:53

just an intense title. They they grab

88:54

your attention. They know what they're

88:56

doing.

88:56

>> Yeah.

88:57

>> This person's made some titles before.

88:58

>> Yeah.

88:59

>> Um the US Department of Justice is

89:01

prosecuting.

89:02

>> They're water condensation experts.

89:06

[laughter]

89:07

>> They know what they're doing. I I gotcha

89:12

[laughter] is prosecuting Samuel uh

89:15

Turnick and uh who is an American

89:18

citizen for allegedly providing US

89:20

border authorities with a passcode that

89:22

wiped the contents of his phone. Mr.

89:24

Turnick's attorneys say that it was

89:26

unlawful for US Customs and Border

89:28

Protection to seize the phone when Mr.

89:31

Turnick returned to the US last year.

89:33

The US government has long claimed it

89:35

can search and seize people's devices

89:37

without a search warrant or court order

89:39

until they are permitted entry to the

89:41

United States. The case centers on a

89:44

feature of graphine OS which lets a

89:46

device owner set a duress pin which is

89:49

awesome and uh on entry deliberately

89:52

wipes the phone instead of unlocking it

89:55

which is kind of brilliant. Uh

89:57

discussion question do you use a burner

89:59

hardware when traveling to the US? I

90:00

don't, but I'm starting to feel like I

90:02

should. Like, this is kind of crazy.

90:04

>> I don't, but I have cleansed content off

90:07

my device multiple times.

90:14

Yeah, I'm um

90:17

I'm I'm looking at this going like I I

90:20

I'm I'm failing to understand how it is

90:25

not within my rights to delete the data

90:28

on a device that I own at any time that

90:32

I wish to delete said data.

90:34

>> I don't agree with that

90:36

>> really

90:36

>> at any time.

90:37

>> Okay. But I'm not there is no warrant.

90:40

There's no suspicion of any kind of

90:43

illdoing. Like if I'm just if I'm

90:46

crossing a border,

90:49

ah man, there's a lot there's a lot of

90:51

stuff that doesn't fly when you're

90:52

crossing a border. That is sort of

90:54

generally a right because you are you're

90:56

literally in no man's land. You are

90:58

>> It's tough. I don't uh I mean I don't

91:00

like it. I don't know that we're going

91:01

to have a solution, but I don't like it.

91:03

Um

91:05

actually, they claimed he had seam on

91:06

it. How would they know? That's crazy.

91:10

>> What do you mean?

91:12

>> And they can claim lots of things. Uh

91:15

the US is claiming a lot of stuff about

91:17

a lot of things right now. Uh I'd love

91:20

to see the evidence for that. Um

91:23

>> Pegasus, they're in every single home

91:25

phone.

91:26

>> If they knew then, then they wouldn't

91:28

need to do this.

91:29

>> Yeah, they're also sure as heck not in

91:30

graphine OS. I can guarantee you that. I

91:33

can't guarantee you that, but I can

91:35

pretty much guarantee you that graphine

91:36

OS doesn't have any Pegasuses living in

91:39

it.

91:41

>> Yeah, I mean, at the very least, be

91:43

aware when you're crossing the border. I

91:45

have purged my a lot of things from my

91:48

phone many a time going across the

91:49

border just knowing that they might

91:50

seize it. And it's like, okay, well,

91:54

maybe they'll have uh some stuff, but

91:57

they won't have

91:59

things that I don't want them to have.

92:01

>> Yeah. like a like a duress duress

92:03

password like I am

92:05

>> you can also do things like uh sign out

92:07

of a bunch of different things.

92:09

>> Mhm.

92:13

But then like at uh

92:16

yeah like there there's an interesting

92:18

conversation here like they asked for a

92:19

password. He gave them a password.

92:23

Like if they So you could sign out of

92:25

something, but if you if they demand

92:27

your password, are you obligated to give

92:30

them a real password?

92:31

>> Yeah. I wonder I don't know.

92:33

>> I mean, this this really comes down to

92:35

the same general questions that we

92:37

always end up talking about when when we

92:41

approach anything to do with like

92:43

encryption, right, is do we have a right

92:46

to privacy?

92:47

>> Yeah.

92:47

>> For our personal data. And it's

92:50

>> um I think in general, you've been very

92:52

hardline. We have a right to encrypt our

92:54

data and we have a right to privacy with

92:57

respect to our personal data. Does that

92:59

change at a border? Because I I could

93:01

actually see an argument for that.

93:03

>> I can understand the border people

93:04

wanting that to change at the border.

93:06

>> Yeah, I I could I could understand that,

93:08

too.

93:08

>> I think it depends who you are. This

93:11

person is an American citizen. In my

93:14

opinion, they should still have that

93:16

right.

93:18

I do I would kind of question

93:20

if you have a if you have a foreign

93:22

national entering your country, does

93:25

that change things at all? I'm not sure.

93:28

Uh but if it's like literally my own

93:30

country, like I don't know, screw off.

93:32

Yeah, I don't know. I uh I think we've

93:34

talked about this on the I think we've

93:35

talked about this on the W show in the

93:36

past, but for for many years, it seems

93:39

to have chilled out lately, but for many

93:41

years, I actually found that I got way

93:43

more hassle from uh Canada Border

93:46

Protection Agency compared to compared

93:49

to the States.

93:50

>> Yeah.

93:50

>> U like coming home, they they

93:54

way more than when I was leaving.

93:55

>> I've had casual for fun conversations

93:58

with American border guards like often.

94:00

The last time I went over the first time

94:03

ever that my car has been searched at

94:05

the border. It was so fast and my car

94:08

was in a completely exactly the same it

94:10

was state when I came back. I don't even

94:12

know what they did. I I was having a

94:15

casual conversation for the thing. Dude

94:16

like with the border guard, he like

94:18

apologized to me and he's like, "You got

94:20

selected. It's FIFA. A lot of people are

94:23

getting selected right now. Sorry."

94:25

>> Right.

94:25

>> Go do the thing. I got out of my car,

94:29

um, walked into the thing, dude checked

94:31

my paper and went, "Uh, yeah, cool.

94:33

You're fine and you're also good to go,

94:34

by the way." And I walked back to my car

94:36

and they were already done. I walked

94:37

like

94:39

30 ft and then walked back.

94:41

>> I have no idea what they did. [laughter]

94:44

I don't know if they were looking for

94:45

like something specific that was

94:47

relatively large and they were able to

94:48

go really fast or what, but it was like

94:50

actually no time at all.

94:51

>> I wonder if it was just like a drug

94:52

thing. They just had the dog go.

94:54

>> Yeah, [snorts] maybe. Maybe. I have not

94:56

a clue very quick and then coming on the

94:59

coming back up. Yeah, they were like way

95:01

more pointed about stuff.

95:02

>> I mean, this is a good question from

95:04

Dwin Len. What's the difference between

95:07

this and wiping your data before you

95:09

cross the border?

95:11

>> I've heard that can be a problem, too.

95:13

>> Why?

95:14

>> I don't know.

95:15

>> Am I not allowed to cross the border

95:16

with a blank phone? That seems crazy.

95:18

>> That is pretty wild.

95:21

I mean, things you can do is have a real

95:24

looking but not real email. Um, have

95:28

[snorts] it signed up to like a bunch of

95:30

stuff that just sends you email. Um, no,

95:33

but seriously,

95:35

>> none of this should be necessary.

95:37

>> It's very easy to generate an email that

95:39

looks real for you. There's tons of

95:41

different versions of your name. So you

95:42

could just spin up a Gmail that's like

95:44

literally your name but in just some

95:46

variation and then sign it up to like a

95:49

bunch of different services.

95:50

>> It's like a daily prayer thing and

95:52

whatever. Yeah.

95:53

>> Some LinkedIn that is even isn't even

95:55

the LinkedIn that you actually normally

95:56

use.

95:56

>> It'll it'll spam you a bunch of emails

95:58

all the time because it's LinkedIn. Um

96:00

just like services like that just make

96:02

it look like it is real.

96:04

>> Um do things Yeah, do things like that.

96:06

>> I shouldn't man. You could be logged out

96:08

of that email on your phone all the time

96:10

and then when you're going to go over

96:11

the border, just flip emails.

96:14

There's ways

96:16

>> I shouldn't need any of that.

96:18

>> No, I I agree. But uh I mean I remember

96:22

I remember being able to just walk over

96:24

the border without any identification.

96:27

Canada and US used to be very very

96:30

close. Um that changed September 11th

96:33

fairly obviously. Um,

96:36

but yeah, it used to be like very much a

96:38

non-issue.

96:40

[clears throat]

96:40

>> That's crazy. I think I I think I've

96:43

talked about this before, too, but the

96:45

uh in between the series premiere and

96:48

the series finale on Friends,

96:51

there's scenes in the airport and the

96:54

like series premiere one, you like could

96:57

just go and see someone off at the gate.

96:59

>> Yeah.

97:00

>> There's no like security. And and then

97:03

in the in the finale there's like it's

97:05

po it's post 911 and there's TSA and

97:08

stuff like they had to they had to like

97:09

do it differently. Um they couldn't just

97:12

do a like for like parallel.

97:14

>> I remembered when Abbottzford airport

97:16

the the hanger was just like [laughter]

97:22

effectively a barn.

97:24

Like you entered one side and you could

97:26

just see the other side and walk there

97:29

if you wanted. I guess there was like a

97:31

counter where you could get your tickets

97:32

and then there was like the doors at the

97:34

other side where you'd walk out to your

97:35

plane and there was nothing in between

97:37

and it was just like I don't know a

97:39

building you could hang out in I guess.

97:41

Uh and then now it's just like security

97:43

everywhere and and all blocked off and

97:45

blah blah blah.

97:47

Yeah.

97:49

>> Hey, speaking of LinkedIn, just to go

97:52

back to that,

97:52

>> there's security now and stuff. I uh I'm

97:55

pretty excited about a new feature on

97:58

LinkedIn.

97:59

LinkedIn has announced several

98:01

>> anti- AI slop measures, including an

98:05

already released button that literally

98:08

says, "Seems like AI slop and can be

98:11

used to report a post specifically for

98:13

being AI generated." In a post on

98:16

LinkedIn, the company's chief product

98:18

officer, Hari Srinson

98:24

Hari wrote, "AI slop is a top priority

98:27

for all of us. We really care about

98:29

this." alongside a batch of new measures

98:31

such as new classifiers to detect and

98:34

demote AI slop/lowquality

98:37

posts reducing it in suggested content.

98:40

A private analytics dashboard warning

98:42

when other users think your post reads

98:44

as inauthentic or heavily AI generated.

98:48

Oh man, that would be the sickest burn.

98:51

>> Get flagged as inauthentic.

98:53

>> You get flagged as AI, but you're like,

98:55

"Oh no, but I actually wrote that."

98:57

That's honestly if you ever look at

98:59

anything on LinkedIn, it a lot of it

99:01

should probably get flagged that way.

99:03

>> And replacing the enhance your post AI

99:06

feature with a proofreader that fixes

99:09

wording without changing a user's voice.

99:14

This seems legitimate. Why is LinkedIn

99:19

leading the charge?

99:20

>> A Microsoft company.

99:22

>> What is happening right now?

99:24

>> That is that is weird. I don't

99:26

understand this.

99:26

>> It's It sounds great.

99:28

>> It sounds great.

99:29

>> I don't think it's gonna fix LinkedIn

99:30

for me. I still hate LinkedIn.

99:32

>> LinkedIn is terrible.

99:34

>> It's so annoying. I hate that. I've

99:36

complained about this before. Like I I

99:37

don't like Twitter, but it was the place

99:39

that you could go to find people in the

99:41

industry. And now that place seems to be

99:44

LinkedIn.

99:44

>> I know.

99:45

>> And that sucks. [laughter] I actually

99:47

like wish Twitter would always

99:49

>> Twitter is a flaming garbage fire, but

99:52

LinkedIn

99:52

>> at least it's not LinkedIn.

99:55

[laughter] I'm so upset that I actually

99:57

like have to actually use LinkedIn.

99:58

>> LinkedIn is a garbage fire in a dumpster

100:01

behind a Wendy's in hell. Like

100:03

[laughter] it's so bad.

100:07

>> Why do I have to go there to network?

100:09

>> Yeah,

100:11

it's uh it's it's genuinely very

100:13

frustrating.

100:16

>> Catalyst has moved to Tumblr.

100:18

>> Oh man,

100:19

>> we're trying to network, not find porn.

100:25

>> [laughter]

100:29

>> Didn't they give up? They bought it and

100:31

then they were like, "No more porn." And

100:32

then they didn't they give up on it?

100:34

>> I'm not sure. I don't even remember.

100:36

>> I I can't exactly search.

100:37

>> Porn player says Tumblr banned it. Is it

100:39

Is it still banned?

100:40

>> Yeah. Did it stay? I knew they banned

100:42

it, but did it stay banned?

100:44

>> All right. Apparent apparently it stayed

100:46

banned. They got rid of it. All right.

100:48

>> You got You got to censor that.

100:50

>> All right. I'm heading over. I'm I'm

100:51

heading over. We're going to Tumblr

100:52

right now. Let's do it.

100:54

>> Screen sharing it.

100:55

>> Yeah.

100:56

>> The front page will be fine. I'm sure

100:57

>> we're going to Tumblr.

100:58

>> Front page.

100:58

>> Taylor Swift. Seriously. Login. Sure.

101:02

Trending. Makes sense. Open the app.

101:04

Yeah. Sell me the app. Taylor Swift.

101:06

>> Honestly, kind of makes sense.

101:08

>> Seriously though,

101:09

>> kind of makes sense.

101:11

>> Okay. Sure. I agree. All right. What am

101:13

I looking at? What do we got here? Okay.

101:15

We got Spider-Man,

101:17

OC Art, Marvel, Rocky, the Aridian,

101:21

whatever that is.

101:22

>> That's from That's from Hail Mary.

101:24

>> Oh, okay. Got it. Shoe ad that tracks.

101:28

>> Uhoh. Uh,

101:31

you're good. Oh,

101:34

>> okay. Things got a little weird there.

101:37

Okay. What do we got? [laughter]

101:39

>> Uh, that's Rocky. We're still okay.

101:42

>> Okay. We're still good.

101:44

Uh, all right. Okay.

101:47

>> Oh,

101:48

>> and can't look at the site anymore.

101:50

Well, guess what, Tumblr? I am not

101:52

creating an account. Go try though.

101:54

>> My heart rate. My gosh.

101:55

>> Yeah, that was that was so

101:58

good. Do another four hours of overtime.

102:01

[laughter]

102:03

>> Bank account's like, "Yeah, no, do it.

102:04

Keep going, Lenn."

102:10

[laughter]

102:11

>> Oh, man. Anyway, congrats LinkedIn on

102:13

your new seems like AI slot button.

102:15

Hopefully, it increases the quality of

102:16

the content.

102:17

>> Have to get a lot better. [laughter]

102:19

>> That is a step in the right direction.

102:22

>> Doesn't Tumblr have like the lowest

102:24

worth of any of the users of any

102:27

platform? Are they like negative?

102:29

>> What?

102:30

>> Like uh you know

102:31

>> like more users means the platform is

102:33

worth less or where are we going with

102:35

this? You know, explain yourself. each

102:36

each platform kind of has like a worth

102:39

of a user in like ad revenue or like

102:42

anything like that. And I think every

102:44

time Tumblr has been bought, they're

102:46

like, "Oh, wait. This platform is

102:47

worthless and we can't monetize it and

102:50

each user is like worth 14 cents." Um,

102:54

like we actually can't keep doing this.

102:57

It's kind of like uh Luke, you talk

102:58

about Twitch and how it's really really

103:00

really expensive. Well, you just can't

103:02

monetize Tumblr. None of them.

103:05

>> Oh, wow. Past owners. David Karp created

103:08

and ran Tumblr. Yahoo purchased for 1.1

103:11

billion before its value declined.

103:13

Verizon gained ownership when it bought

103:16

Yahoo and it is now owned by Automatic,

103:19

the parent company of WordPress, who

103:21

bought it from Verizon in August 2019.

103:24

WordPress?

103:26

Yeah. It just keeps getting passed

103:27

around and they try to fix it and they

103:28

can't. It's great.

103:31

Huh. Huh. Okay. How many current users?

103:38

>> Automatic CEO calls Tumblr his biggest

103:41

failure [laughter]

103:43

so far.

103:47

[sighs] You know what isn't the biggest

103:48

failure IS LT store sucks. Let's go.

103:52

>> Oh shoot. Do we even have stock? Oh

103:55

yeah. Okay. Small and medium actually.

103:57

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we have a little bit

104:00

of stock of small and medium across all

104:01

three colors. Okay, cool.

104:05

any reviews yet? I guess people probably

104:06

don't have them yet. Hey,

104:09

just kind of curious. Do reviews stack

104:12

between the two sites? I actually don't

104:14

know this either.

104:16

Okay. Well, looking forward to hearing

104:18

from people who are,

104:21

you know, hopefully very happy with

104:22

their new socks anyway. Oh, right.

104:26

Floatplane announcement. Have you ever

104:27

wondered what exactly it is that Colton

104:30

Potter does at LMG? Yeah.

104:33

>> Well, now's your chance to find out.

104:35

We're going to have our byearly Lionus

104:37

sits down with an exact series where I'm

104:40

going to be sitting down with this.

104:42

Okay, I read that wrong. We have a

104:45

by-early Linus sits down with exact

104:47

series where I sit down with an

104:49

executive and just talk about how their

104:50

part of the company is going. We've done

104:52

Taran uh the CEO, James head of writing,

104:55

Luke did one with Labs, and now it's our

104:58

chief revenue officer's turn. Is he an

105:02

officer? I can't remember. He's He's

105:03

head of revenue. I I forget his exact

105:05

title. He's in charge of money.

105:07

>> CRG.

105:08

>> Yeah. Like but not counting it. We don't

105:09

>> Chief revenue guy.

105:10

>> We don't let him count the money. We

105:12

just let him gen generate chief revenue

105:15

generator.

105:16

>> Yeah.

105:16

>> Um

105:17

>> anyway, you can drop any questions that

105:19

you have under this post over on float

105:22

plane for our for our chief of revenue,

105:25

Colton Potter. In Colton's words, I'm

105:27

the revenue guy for LMG. making sure we

105:30

bring in enough revenue to keep LMG's

105:31

bank account from hitting zero dollars

105:33

by creating opportunities to make money.

105:36

That is the most LinkedIn post

105:39

that I've read today. Um,

105:42

thank you for that, Chief of Revenue,

105:44

Colton Potter. Anyway, you can post any

105:48

questions you have and uh we'll be

105:49

talking about it during my sit down with

105:51

him. If you're more of a video type of

105:54

person, we have another installment of

105:55

LMG Whips where we showcase George Oh,

105:57

we got Jordan's truck. Oh, [gasps]

106:00

we got Jordan's truck. Luke, have you

106:02

seen Jordan's truck?

106:04

>> No.

106:05

>> You need to.

106:06

>> Oh,

106:07

>> how cool is that?

106:08

>> That's so cute.

106:11

>> And he's doing some really cool stuff

106:13

with it, too.

106:14

>> Wait, did it come with that paint job?

106:15

>> No. Heavens no. He He did it. Remember

106:19

how we painted my Civic?

106:21

>> Yeah.

106:21

>> He did it with like a roller.

106:23

>> No way.

106:24

>> I'm serious. [laughter] That's so

106:26

>> And it looks like he masked nothing.

106:29

>> It's It's like [clears throat] on the

106:31

wheels. Like it's got drips [laughter]

106:33

on it. It is so good.

106:36

>> It's all over the frame. This thing has

106:38

so much personality.

106:39

>> That's awesome.

106:40

>> Uh so we have that and then we also have

106:41

an episode of Why Wan Late? An epic

106:44

funny prank happened. Gone wrong, but

106:46

not really gone wrong. Okay. I don't

106:47

know what that means, but good job,

106:49

Sammy.

106:50

>> What is this picture?

106:51

>> I like that he's in the universe. Yeah,

106:54

I mean he is he is in the universe.

106:57

Sammy's not wrong.

107:01

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to pick one for us?

110:17

>> You should benchmark it with the whole

110:19

Avon Ho versus Home thing. Someone

110:21

someone in chat mentioned that PK7.

110:23

>> Oh man, [laughter] that's a throwback.

110:26

Call Ivon Ho. CALLING IVONNE HOME. NO.

110:29

NO, IT'S IT'S one of Oh, man. It's these

110:32

little things that just drive me crazy,

110:34

you know? Do you know that ways makes

110:36

you press go now twice?

110:39

There's a go now button and then when

110:42

you press it, there's like a thing that

110:45

you that you like it's it's it's like

110:47

the most painfully long animation of all

110:49

time. And then if you want to just go

110:52

now, like literally now, what does now

110:54

mean? You have to press it again. And

110:56

I'm like, I am driving a car right now.

111:00

any unnecessary interaction is an

111:02

unnecessary interaction or anyway

111:05

>> speaking of unnecessary interaction

111:07

Microsoft announced TPM based uh

111:10

attestation for its key management

111:12

service the system enterprises use to

111:14

activate Windows across big fleets of

111:16

machines before a KMS server can

111:20

activate anything the TPM chip will

111:21

verify it's genuine Microsoft sanctioned

111:24

hardware and hasn't been tampered with

111:27

pirates have have abused KMS for years

111:29

by spinning up fake activation servers

111:32

that trick Windows into thinking that

111:33

it's licensed, including the popular

111:35

online KMS method from the Massgrave

111:38

Collective uh that's been around for a

111:41

while uh which pings a spoofed server

111:43

every 6 months to keep activations

111:45

alive. It becomes mandatory with the

111:46

next Windows Server release and

111:49

readiness notifications start hitting

111:51

Windows Server 2025 in August. This is

111:53

not in the notes, but I'm assuming

111:55

that's because maybe they never want to

111:57

support Windows Server again is my is my

111:59

guess. Uh, the crackdown may already be

112:01

behind the curve because Masgrave has

112:03

released a newer method called TS Forge

112:07

that targets Microsoft's DRM

112:08

architecture directly and doesn't rely

112:10

on KMS emulation at all. [laughter] This

112:13

also lands weeks after Microsoft blocked

112:15

all known ways to install Windows 11

112:17

without a Microsoft account. [laughter]

112:22

Uh discussion question. Microsoft made

112:24

TPM mandatory in the name of security

112:26

and now it's doing antipiriracy duty. Is

112:28

this a bait and switch or was this the

112:30

obvious next step? Uh

112:32

>> yes.

112:36

>> Yeah. Uh discussion question. Is

112:37

Microsoft ever actually winning this

112:39

fight?

112:40

>> I mean I for years I've thought that

112:43

they weren't actually trying to win it,

112:45

>> but then now they're they seem to be

112:46

trying to crack down on it again and I

112:49

don't really understand it. Windows is

112:50

what, like 8% of their revenue now or

112:52

something like that.

112:52

>> It's a staff change thing. Maybe someone

112:55

else is running this and they're like,

112:56

"Well, we should stop the the piracy of

112:59

Windows. We should promote Linux even

113:01

more. We should really push people right

113:04

out the door.

113:07

>> Yeah, it it feels like I I

113:10

>> honestly I welcome it with open arms.

113:12

Do it more, brother. Do it more."

113:15

>> I don't know.

113:16

>> Give Linux more users.

113:18

>> Yeah. Yeah, I could see that.

113:19

>> Drive the adoption.

113:21

>> Let's get more compatibility. We need

113:23

some creative apps over there.

113:25

>> We do though.

113:26

>> Photo and video editing.

113:27

>> Yeah, we do.

113:28

>> Screen sharing could be a lot a lot a

113:30

lot a lot better.

113:32

>> I did I tell you I've started my

113:34

interview series for um

113:37

>> Yeah, I sent you a thing.

113:38

>> Yes, I think I think Vance or James is

113:41

arranging the interviews with with them,

113:43

but um

113:44

>> yeah, I've only done Lewig so far.

113:47

>> Is published? I have it's it's

113:49

published.

113:49

>> Yeah.

113:51

>> Yeah. He was streaming at the time.

113:52

>> Oh, did he do it as a clip?

113:54

>> Yeah.

113:54

>> No way.

113:55

>> Yeah. Yeah.

113:56

>> Of course he would.

113:57

>> It's on Lwin, I think.

113:58

>> Everything's content.

114:00

>> Yeah.

114:02

>> Okay. Well, if you guys want to watch my

114:04

little interview with Lewig about um how

114:07

much Windows matters to him.

114:10

>> Holy crap. This is half a million views.

114:12

It's a good title.

114:17

That's crazy. This is actually like a

114:19

pretty good performer for him. Right up

114:22

there with whatever this is.

114:25

[laughter]

114:29

>> Ledwick's one of those guys like I I

114:31

think do whatever.

114:32

>> I think I've described him the term I

114:34

use to describe him most is he is an S

114:36

tier personality. He could do anything,

114:40

be talking about anything, be in any

114:43

room, and he would just automatically be

114:46

interesting and magnetic to the people

114:48

around him. He's just one of those guys

114:49

that uh

114:50

>> he did a thing recently. I don't I don't

114:52

fully understand the scenario. Uh it's

114:54

called streamer university. I don't know

114:56

the details around it to be honest. I

114:58

don't really care. Yeah. This

114:59

>> Yeah.

115:00

>> But he taught a class on like how to be

115:02

a streamer.

115:03

>> Yeah. And he just like

115:05

>> it's really good. He's like a very good

115:08

teacher.

115:08

>> Like straight up just completely

115:13

opening up everything that you need to

115:15

know. Like no secrets, no like like

115:19

guarded, you know, proprietary

115:21

knowledge. He's just like, "Yeah, here's

115:22

what to do." Which is pretty cool.

115:24

>> Yeah.

115:27

Yeah. And it's just like it's but it's

115:29

impressive even how he like handles

115:32

those classrooms

115:35

and the the people because there is a

115:38

lot of streamers that are just

115:40

you know disturber streamers uh and a

115:45

bunch of them were there.

115:46

>> Tell me more.

115:46

>> And so he had to control a classroom

115:48

that was roughly the equivalent of like

115:50

middle school or early high school

115:53

in like the actions that were being

115:55

taken in the class. and he does a

115:57

amazing job. It's just like what the

115:59

hellh [laughter]

116:01

I don't know. Impressive.

116:07

Anyway, I'm uh I'm looking forward to

116:09

I'm looking forward to that video. So,

116:11

it's um it's it's a it's a a world

116:13

without Windows is kind of the the

116:16

working title of it.

116:19

And [sighs] I don't know, man. I um I'm

116:24

still on Steam OS.

116:27

I still don't see the point of being on

116:28

anything but Steam OS.

116:30

>> I still spend the vast majority of my

116:33

time on Kashi. Kashi is still my

116:37

favorite. Um it's tuned in enough at

116:41

this point where I rarely have to ever

116:44

even consider the fact that I'm running

116:46

a different operating system. Um, my

116:49

laptop hasn't booted into anything that

116:51

wasn't Mint since the beginning of the

116:53

Linux challenge ever. I have a dual boot

116:55

drive in there and it just has never

116:56

been booted to. At this point, I'm just

116:58

going to wipe it and use it for storage.

116:59

>> And by the time you boot to it, Windows

117:02

is going to put up that thing and harass

117:05

you about why you haven't switched to

117:07

Edge yet and ask you if you like gaming

117:09

or entertainment

117:12

hour of updates or something. Yep.

117:14

>> It's uh

117:15

>> whole bunch of reboots. It'll be great.

117:16

Yeah, it's super annoying. So, like I

117:18

it's been great, but at the same time

117:22

when I need to do something, photo edit,

117:26

video edit, sometimes honestly screen

117:29

sharing is so not cool on Linux that if

117:32

I know I'm going to have to do a bunch

117:33

of it, I'll just hop over. Um, that's

117:36

fair. So, I do I do I've been enjoying

117:38

my dual boot and it's pretty quick.

117:41

Like, modern hardware is pretty quick.

117:44

Booting is pretty fast.

117:46

And with I have secure boot on both so I

117:49

don't have to like turn secure boot off

117:51

or do whatever. U so I can flip between

117:54

operating systems really fast. So if I

117:55

need to do something on Windows I'll

117:57

just jump over do it and then jump back.

117:59

It's like really not a huge deal.

118:00

>> Am I missing something or is this the

118:02

most viewers we've had on Wan show in

118:04

like months?

118:10

>> The Minecraft gang.

118:11

>> Is it the title?

118:12

>> The Minecraft gang came through. Dude,

118:14

should we talk about Minecraft more?

118:16

>> Is that what happened?

118:17

>> Minecraft Let's Play on W show. I'm

118:19

down.

118:20

>> I'm so confused.

118:21

>> Let's do it.

118:25

>> When did I uh

118:27

uh Did Did I talk about playing Mecca

118:30

Chameleon on when show yet?

118:32

>> Very shortly, I think.

118:33

>> Did I? I thought I played it this week.

118:36

Are you sure?

118:38

>> Maybe you just talked to me.

118:40

Oh,

118:41

>> sometimes, honestly, it's hard to

118:42

differentiate conversations we've had in

118:44

person versus conversations we have on

118:46

WA.

118:46

>> That's true. Uh, anyway, it was really

118:48

fun. We did a we did a family game

118:50

night. Um, so we we actually we actually

118:54

played it. Uh, maybe I talked about

118:55

buying it.

118:56

>> Yeah. And for it's like six Canadian

118:59

dollars per license and we did a family

119:01

game night and it was like such a blast.

119:04

I um I

119:06

I think I am very now turned on to this

119:11

whole like friend slop as a family game

119:13

night thing. We've done in the last

119:16

month we've done like a golf with your

119:18

friends

119:19

>> great

119:20

>> family game night and we've done a mecha

119:22

chameleon family game night

119:24

>> and um the problem that we've had cuz

119:27

obviously that was like the vision the

119:29

whole time, right? like we built that

119:30

land area in the in the basement of our

119:32

house. Like this was like the plan. So,

119:34

you're probably watching this going

119:36

like, "Sorry, Lennis. You're only like

119:38

just figuring this out." And it's like

119:39

we've we've done some stuff like my kids

119:41

and I played a lot of Minecraft

119:42

Dungeons, but it was four players. Like,

119:44

a lot of things are not designed for

119:47

five players. It's a super weird number.

119:49

The world is made for four. And so we've

119:52

and what's ended up happening is there's

119:53

been other games where I've intended for

119:55

us to play them all together, but then

119:57

the kids run off and get like really

119:58

good at it

120:00

or, you know, it's really hard for the

120:03

the relatively non like Twitch gamer

120:06

people to to keep up with.

120:07

>> Mecha Chameleon is a great game for that

120:09

reason. It is probably the best family

120:14

game that we have played so far because

120:17

you don't need to be able to, you know,

120:19

play 3D chess in terms of your strategy.

120:22

>> It's not a Twitch shooter.

120:23

>> You don't have to have great reflexes.

120:25

It actually uh my girls are far more

120:28

artistically inclined than my boy. And

120:31

so all of a sudden he found himself in a

120:36

situation where the girls were actually

120:39

very competitive at a game with him and

120:42

because none of us had played it yet and

120:45

um they like uh my son like heard about

120:47

it at school and had like he installed

120:49

it and was like so like can I play it?

120:51

I'm like no wait we're all going to play

120:54

it together. We're all going to

120:55

experience it for the first time

120:56

together.

120:56

>> It was super fun. They're already asking

120:59

like, "Hey, when are we going to have

121:00

like Mecha Chameleon night?" My son

121:03

actually was supposed to have a friend

121:04

over that night. Uh it was like on

121:07

Monday or Sunday or something like that.

121:10

And I was like, "Oh, okay. Well, maybe

121:12

we can maybe we can play Mecha Chameleon

121:14

together later in the week." And he

121:15

looks at his calendar. He's like, "Well,

121:16

the first time I'm going to be able to

121:17

do that is Thursday. Okay. I'm going to

121:18

tell my friend you can't come over." And

121:20

I'm like, "No, no, no, no. You don't

121:21

have to do that. Like, I'm not I'm not

121:22

looking to interfere with your social

121:24

life. Like, family time is important,

121:25

but kids building their own social

121:26

circle is also really important." He's

121:28

like, "It's done already." And I'm like,

121:30

[laughter] "All right." So, like, he

121:31

really wanted to play the game. So,

121:33

finding something, dude, and any of the

121:35

parents know this. Finding something

121:37

that everyone wants to do to the point

121:40

where they they will willingly, actively

121:44

carve out family time is like it's the

121:48

holy freaking grail. Like, it doesn't

121:50

exist.

121:51

>> And Mecca Chameleon turns out to have

121:54

been it. And so,

121:56

>> it sounds like a wicked game. So, if we

121:58

can keep Mecha Chameleon, you know,

122:00

sacred to family game night only, then

122:03

nobody will go and Luke on, you know,

122:06

Mario Kart ate it and just like

122:08

>> that poor girl.

122:10

>> Yeah, that poor child.

122:13

>> I had to This story keeps haunting me. I

122:14

had to explain this story very recently

122:16

cuz someone asked me about it. I was

122:17

like, "What the heck?

122:18

>> Why did you Why did you abuse that small

122:20

child in Mario Kart? traumatized

122:24

on stage

122:25

in front of thousands of people.

122:27

>> That's not true. [laughter] That's not

122:29

true.

122:30

>> And there was no prize money or

122:32

anything. He just did a he destroyed

122:34

that poor girl for sport to make a child

122:36

cry.

122:37

>> Oh, you want some candy? No. [laughter]

122:41

>> And then you eat it all.

122:42

>> Yeah.

122:44

>> Okay. Anyway, family game night.

122:47

>> Absolute blast.

122:48

>> It's not what happened. It's not what

122:50

happened, but it is kind of what

122:51

happened. [laughter]

122:52

>> No. No.

122:54

>> Did the child end up destroyed?

122:56

>> Yeah.

122:57

>> Was it by your hand?

122:59

>> I could argue no.

123:02

>> Who's Who had the controller?

123:04

>> I did.

123:05

>> Right. Okay.

123:06

>> But it wasn't the controller that did

123:07

the action in the game.

123:09

>> Right.

123:12

>> So, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe [laughter] for

123:15

some Yeah. This is the launch. This is a

123:17

launch event. No, he's defending himself

123:19

now.

123:19

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the

123:20

launch event for the Switch. Um we're up

123:23

on stage. Oh my goodness. Hello. Uh this

123:26

feels so formal. Um we're up on stage

123:30

checking it out. I'm talking about to

123:32

one of the Nintendo people that I'm on

123:33

the far side of the stage from the

123:34

Switch. The Switch was not in the middle

123:36

of the stage and I was having input

123:38

issues and I was like, "Dude, I think

123:39

your your new console here doesn't have

123:41

that great of range with the Joy-Cons."

123:44

and he's got the mic and he's trying to

123:45

roast me and say, "Oh, you're just

123:47

trying to like

123:49

uh pre- set up excuses for why you're

123:51

going to you're going to lose." And I

123:53

was like, "No, I've played a lot of

123:54

Mario Kart 8. I'm going to win, but like

123:56

your your controllers are having issues

123:58

on this side of the stage. This kind of

123:59

sucks. Can we move closer or something?"

124:01

He's like, "No, no, no, no, no." So then

124:03

I'm like, "Okay, this guy's calling me

124:04

out like hard on stage, so I'm going to

124:06

try to do really But my plan was to

124:09

basically win the race, get to the end,

124:11

right before the end, slam myself into

124:12

the wall, wait for this little girl to

124:14

go over the finish line, and then go

124:15

over just to like prove that I could,

124:17

but not actually do it. And then I get

124:19

to the end of the case, the race, slam

124:21

myself into the wall. Mario Kart 8

124:23

Deluxe, not Mario Kart 8, but Mario Kart

124:25

8 Deluxe has a feature that is like

124:27

training wheels or whatever, and it'll

124:29

it'll keep you going in the direction

124:30

you're supposed to, and it drags me

124:33

sliding across the wall over the finish

124:34

line and forced me to win the race.

124:36

>> Forced him. forced him. He didn't want

124:38

to. He didn't want to crush that poor

124:40

little girl.

124:40

>> People there were like, "Wait, why would

124:42

you do that?" And I was like, "I did.

124:44

[laughter]

124:45

I I did it. I didn't want to. I had no

124:48

idea it was like a feature in the game

124:50

>> was involuntary. He just He can't help

124:52

crushing children."

124:53

>> I was like continually steering into the

124:56

wall and trying to break and it's just

124:57

sliding me against the wall.

124:59

>> But the one that ended up getting break

125:00

was the poor child. She's still broken

125:03

to this day, I heard. And her mom, I

125:05

remember correctly, her mom was like a

125:06

Nintendo employee and it [laughter] was

125:09

like she was like actually upset with

125:11

me. And I was like, I really didn't want

125:13

to do that. [laughter] I'm sorry.

125:15

>> But that that guy on the stage, he just

125:17

he made me so angry and I had to find

125:19

someone to take out my rage on him. Why

125:21

not the nearest child?

125:22

>> Oh man, I

125:26

was I was like actually rattled for the

125:28

rest of the event. [laughter]

125:31

>> It's so funny. Which is why which is why

125:34

Dan [laughter] and I love bringing up

125:36

this story so much.

125:39

>> Oh man, embellishing it is even better

125:42

[laughter] cuz then you get all upset

125:44

and I have to explain it again and we

125:45

just like irrigate.

125:46

>> He goes the Luke version of Red.

125:49

>> What is What is the Luke version of Red?

125:50

>> It's kind of pale [laughter]

125:52

>> but a little bit red.

125:56

>> Oh my god.

125:59

Ooh, speaking of red on faces, um, I

126:04

have brought up already, I think, with

126:06

you that, uh, people keep creating

126:09

conspiracy theories that the steam frame

126:12

must be coming out soon because I have

126:14

marks on my face. [laughter]

126:16

>> Um, but actually, what I had was a zit

126:19

on my nose that was kind of red.

126:22

>> I thought it was like here.

126:24

>> I think I had one there, too.

126:25

>> Oh, okay.

126:26

>> Yeah. Over the last little while, I've

126:27

just had like a couple breakouts and so

126:29

it has created this

126:31

>> breakouts from wearing a VR headset.

126:33

>> Sure, let's go with that. Anyway,

126:35

>> maybe

126:36

>> I still don't know anything, which means

126:38

that I can still talk about rumors.

126:41

>> And according to I guess notebook check,

126:44

uh Valve's Steam Frame VR headset is

126:47

getting closer to launch after receiving

126:49

FCC certification, a sign that the

126:51

hardware is moving through the final

126:52

stages toward release. It is expected to

126:56

arrive in 2026 and folks have been

126:58

watching very very closely, but Valve

127:01

still hasn't announced an official

127:02

release date or a price. Our discussion

127:05

question here is, what would a

127:07

successful launch of the Steam frame

127:09

mean for the future of VR gaming?

127:12

>> Maybe it would be less dead,

127:13

>> less cables. You're welcome. I I don't I

127:17

don't think it's going to

127:19

>> I shouldn't say I don't think it's going

127:20

to meaningfully change. It's not going

127:22

to meaningfully change the way that

127:25

No, I I think I You know what? I

127:28

disagree with myself 10 seconds ago.

127:31

>> You never said anything.

127:33

>> Yeah, but I was thinking it. [laughter]

127:35

>> Okay.

127:35

>> Big changes.

127:37

Big big changes.

127:39

>> Yeah,

127:39

>> because this is the first doit all

127:41

device. And yes, I'm aware that the

127:43

Quest 3 can can do wireless and I'm

127:47

aware that the Index can, you know, have

127:50

a wireless third party interface on it

127:53

for PC fidelity gaming. I'm aware that

127:55

there's there's a lot of things that do

127:59

most of what the Steam Frame is going to

128:02

do, but I don't think there's anything

128:05

that is going to be the allrounder that

128:08

the Steam Frame I expect to be. So,

128:12

being able to play standalone games,

128:14

being able to stream games to the big

128:17

screen, being able to play highfidelity

128:19

games over a high-speed wireless link

128:22

locally. Um,

128:25

I wish the displays were better.

128:29

>> Isn't Beat Saber not going to work on it

128:31

or something?

128:32

>> Who said that?

128:33

>> Um,

128:34

>> I haven't heard anything like that.

128:35

>> Beataber not working with Steam frame.

128:41

Steam frame and the Beat Saber

128:42

situation. Steam Frame will pretty much

128:44

certainly be able to run Steam Beat

128:46

Saber natively. Oh,

128:47

>> why does the Steam version of Beat Saber

128:49

no longer work?

128:52

Uh, well, I don't know if this thread is

128:54

like actually the one that I'm trying to

128:57

Meta are complete jerks and they hold

128:58

Beat Saber hostage. Oh.

129:02

>> Oh, right. Meta owns it.

129:04

>> Oh, so that's the problem. Yeah, I

129:07

didn't really dive into this. I'm going

129:08

to try to find a better

129:10

>> Oh, so it just won't run natively on it.

129:12

But if I have it on my PC, then I can

129:14

still play it,

129:15

>> I guess. So

129:16

>> Oh, that's still kind of annoying,

129:17

actually.

129:17

>> I don't I don't actually really know.

129:21

Hold on. Am I over this or not? I'm

129:23

thinking about it because

129:25

>> man, has every website we've gone to

129:27

today had an LTT story ad?

129:30

>> Cuz the way that I think that I'm going

129:32

to use the Steam Frame far more than my

129:35

previous VR headsets is that I want to

129:37

be able to take it with me when I

129:39

travel.

129:40

>> Oh, yeah. Category unsupported. All

129:42

right.

129:44

Um,

129:47

and I think I could still take it with

129:49

me when I travel and play BeatSaber

129:51

streamed from my laptop cuz all I need

129:52

is the wireless dongle. And the wireless

129:55

dongle is a reasonable size. It's not

129:56

like one of those big like, yeah, I'm 6

129:58

GHz and I have this like giant antenna

130:00

and it's directional and like whatever.

130:02

Like it's actually it's pretty small.

130:04

>> Yeah, no linked me actually directly to

130:06

it. So yeah, this game's graphics

130:08

settings cannot be configured well to

130:09

run on a Steam frame.

130:11

>> Weird. Okay, Conrad's piping up. He

130:14

says, "Our ROAS is excellent, by the

130:15

way.

130:17

I forget what that stands for. It's some

130:19

business thing.

130:20

>> It's

130:21

>> return on ad spend."

130:23

>> Yeah. [sighs] Yeah.

130:24

>> Mhm. Okay. Thank you, Conrad. Um, keep

130:26

keep up the good work, Conrad. People

130:28

need to see all of the all of the LTT

130:30

store

130:33

um ads.

130:35

>> I don't know if he does that. I don't

130:36

think he does that.

130:37

>> Oh, I know.

130:38

>> Okay.

130:39

>> But when they click the ad, they're

130:40

going to go to a site. true.

130:41

>> That he works on.

130:42

>> Yeah. Hell yeah.

130:43

>> That's right. That's right.

130:45

>> That's how that's how it goes.

130:47

>> Hell [laughter] yeah.

130:48

>> Conrad gave a thumbs up. [gasps]

130:51

>> Um, so yeah, I'm very excited for the

130:54

Steam frame. No, I'm not wearing it yet.

130:56

No, I don't know anything yet. As soon

130:58

as I know anything, you'll hear nothing

131:00

from me.

131:02

>> Yeah,

131:02

>> that's how you'll know.

131:03

>> That is a bit of an indicator.

131:04

>> Mhm.

131:05

>> I'll stop talking about the Steam Frame

131:07

completely when I am enjoying it. So,

131:09

the news next week will be that Lionus

131:11

didn't talk about the steam frame on W

131:12

show next week.

131:13

>> I should not talk about it next week.

131:15

>> Would mean that Lionus now knows

131:17

something about it.

131:18

>> That'd be so funny.

131:19

>> And therefore, it's coming soon.

131:20

>> I should I should do it just to mess

131:21

with them.

131:22

>> Mhm.

131:24

>> Once a troll, always a troll. What can I

131:26

say? Um, California wants to ban 3D

131:30

printers that can't detect when a gun is

131:33

being printed. This is California's

131:35

Firearm Printer Protection Act that pro

131:38

that proposes prohibiting all 3D

131:40

printers in the state from sale or

131:42

transfer unless they are equipped with a

131:44

certified firearm blueprint detection

131:46

algorithm by December 1st, 2029.

131:50

There's a lot of notes on this, but I'm

131:52

going to go ahead and digress for a

131:55

second here and go, what the actual

131:57

certified is a certified firearm

132:00

blueprint detection algorithm? Does set

132:02

algorithm exist?

132:04

>> Can you print Warhammer models if you

132:06

have that algorithm? Um,

132:07

>> are you allowed to are you allowed to

132:09

create a law that says that unless it

132:12

has a hyperdrive, you're not allowed to

132:14

sell a Delorean? Like, what are we what

132:16

are we talking about here?

132:18

>> Yeah. Uh, I mean, we've also talked

132:20

about this in the past. I think it was

132:22

with New York or something where our

132:23

argument is like, I mean, you can just

132:25

drive them over the border. I think that

132:27

argument is a little bit tougher for

132:28

California. um but still absolutely a

132:31

thing.

132:32

>> Well, let's talk about how they think it

132:33

should work. So, the bill henes hinges

132:36

on functional geometric search which is

132:39

described as the ability to search 3D

132:41

models by their shape. A representative

132:44

from FSNA, the developer of a geometric

132:46

search tool, claimed that geometric

132:47

search is a mature technology deployed

132:50

at scale.

132:51

Um

132:53

>> ah nice. FNA recently announced a

132:55

strategic partnership with Palunteer.

132:58

They revolutionized 3D data analysis for

133:01

defense and commercial sectors.

133:02

Meanwhile, of course, they did.

133:04

>> Marleene Vaggalar, CEO of 3D mod model

133:08

repository,

133:10

stated that they had tried to implement

133:12

geometric search, notably FSNAS

133:15

specifically, and had removed it as it

133:17

was not useful for our community.

133:21

Okay.

133:23

Um, there is an exception for machines

133:26

manufactured specifically for printing

133:28

props. So, they'll allow you. So, okay.

133:31

So, they're going to use geometric

133:33

search to tell if it looks like a gun,

133:36

but it's totally fine for it to look

133:38

like a gun as long as it's a machine

133:40

that's for printing a prop. But if I

133:44

mean like riddle me this, Luke,

133:51

when Shinszo Abbe was assassinated,

133:54

[laughter]

133:55

what did his gun look like? Would a

133:57

geometric search

133:59

>> it? No.

134:00

>> Have brought that up?

134:01

>> No, it wouldn't have.

134:02

>> It was a It was a plank of wood with

134:05

some pipes on it.

134:07

>> Yeah. And all duct taped together.

134:09

>> I mean, that's kind of gun looking,

134:10

actually, now that I look at it. No, but

134:12

you've printed in different se sections

134:15

>> like

134:16

>> so those are just metal pipes.

134:19

The the the the the one thing is just

134:21

literally a board.

134:25

[sighs]

134:27

The handle is just a handle for

134:29

anything.

134:31

Yeah.

134:33

I feel like we're I feel like we're

134:35

losing the plot a little bit here.

134:38

>> Yeah. I think a lot of people

134:41

overestimate how hard it is to make a

134:43

thing that makes things go bang.

134:46

>> I mean, literally, they were

134:48

manufactured hundreds of years ago by

134:50

just like Smiths.

134:53

Like, literally, if you know someone

134:55

named Smith, there is a nonzero chance

134:59

that they were involved in the

135:01

manufacturer of weapons at some point,

135:03

their family.

135:03

>> Yeah, that's pretty high chance. Like

135:06

actually though,

135:07

>> like it literally literally Joe Smith,

135:10

okay? Any Joe Smith

135:12

>> could could come from a from a heritage

135:15

of weapons makers, okay? Like I I

135:20

like I look as as a Canadian, I'm

135:24

probably a little a little less woo

135:28

firearms um than you know some of our

135:31

American viewers watching this might be.

135:33

just culturally it turns out we actually

135:35

do have some differences.

135:38

However,

135:40

it is pretty clear to me that you are

135:42

simply one does not simply legislate

135:46

um that people cannot make a tube with a

135:49

with a firing pin and a hammer and a

135:54

like you know rifling in the inside of

135:57

it and a piece of wood attached to it.

135:59

Like what are we even talking about? You

136:00

don't even need rifling for a shotgun.

136:02

>> That this is true.

136:03

>> And I'm pretty sure his was shotgun.

136:05

>> The AB assassin. Literally

136:08

>> literally.

136:09

>> It's literally a metal tube.

136:10

>> A metal tube.

136:12

>> Like

136:13

>> like are we going to outlaw Home Depot

136:17

[laughter]

136:18

>> because because people get lost in there

136:20

for hours. Like if you want to talk

136:22

about outlawing Home Depot, I'm open to

136:24

the conversation. The number, the amount

136:27

of human life that has been lost to

136:30

wandering the aisles of Home Depot may

136:33

actually be close to the amount of human

136:35

life lost to firearms.

136:38

Obviously, I'm joking. Clearly a joke.

136:41

But the point of the joke is just to to

136:44

illustrate how how silly this whole sort

136:48

of argument is that that we should ban

136:50

something that can that can print a that

136:53

can print a shape that can ultimately be

136:55

turned into a firearm. Like I just

136:57

>> someone named Kirkland Signature in all

136:59

caps in in full plane chat said I can

137:01

build a firearm right now in the next 4

137:03

hours from the hardware store. You can

137:04

probably do it in less time than that.

137:06

That probably includes driving to and

137:08

from the hardware store, reading a book

137:10

about how to make a firearm from the

137:12

hardware store,

137:13

>> and to [laughter] be clear,

137:14

>> and making the firearm.

137:15

>> Neither of us are promoting, hey, you

137:17

should go 3D print a firearm right now.

137:19

But it's just the crack down on that

137:22

will cleave a lot of cool things and in

137:26

my opinion is going to solve nothing.

137:28

>> And this is this is the same thing. We

137:31

talked about it last time. You're not

137:32

going to stop people who actually want

137:34

to do this. First of all, you can just

137:35

drive them over the border cuz it's not

137:36

the entire states that are doing that.

137:38

And then secondly, it even notes it in

137:41

here. These algorithms are not going to

137:42

be able to catch it all with the ways

137:45

that you can do removals of different

137:47

things in 3D printing. You could tie in

137:50

parts of the parts that you actually 3D

137:52

print when you're 3D printing a firearm.

137:54

Um, and

137:55

>> not all of it is 3D printed. That's a

137:56

really good point.

137:57

>> And you can just tie them into other

137:59

structures and then just break them

138:02

after you've printed it. And then you

138:04

still have it. You will not stop that. I

138:05

can like guarantee you will not stop

138:07

that. So they're it's what are you

138:09

actually accomplishing?

138:13

Practically nothing. So it's just it's

138:16

just it's just annoying for people. It's

138:18

just tying companies like Palanteer into

138:20

3D printer sales, which is like can we

138:22

not? Um it's it's just I don't know.

138:25

It's uh it's a waste of time and energy

138:29

and it's just completely going to be

138:31

ineffective.

138:33

So, I don't know. That's

138:35

>> dude.

138:38

>> Notably, [clears throat] 3D printing

138:39

firearms is already illegal in

138:41

California. So, basically, we're just

138:44

trying to

138:46

I don't know, maybe maybe the maybe

138:47

where it's coming from is they're

138:49

looking at how I guess somewhat

138:52

successful building printer firmware

138:55

that prevents it from printing money,

138:57

printing counterfeit money was. Like I

139:00

remember being in high school and I had

139:01

a I had a friend in high school who uh

139:04

printed like $5 Canadian bills and had

139:09

some success passing them off as real

139:11

ones just cuz he was he was one of the

139:13

first ones to get like a highfidelity

139:15

color printer back when they didn't have

139:17

those safeguards in them.

139:18

>> It wasn't super common. So, so they're

139:20

maybe they're looking at how those

139:22

safeguards I think, you know, at least

139:24

prevented random, you know, grade nine,

139:27

grade eight kids from from printing

139:30

these things and and they're trying to

139:32

trying to replicate that success uh

139:35

across firearms. And it's like I I I can

139:37

kind of see the logical thread that

139:41

connects those two things, but

139:43

man, this is a this is a way more

139:46

complex problem to try to solve that

139:49

literally I don't think can be solved.

139:51

Like float plane chat is going with all

139:55

the ways that people could just get

139:57

around this like just print some big

139:59

thing

140:00

>> endless.

140:00

>> Like you you you brought up print some

140:02

big thing and break it away. Or the

140:04

opposite of that, print many small

140:06

things and glue them all together

140:08

because it would have no way of knowing

140:10

what you're going to do with a given

140:12

hunk of plastic. And I understand it

140:13

like there's some people in the chat

140:14

that are like, "Well, there's so many

140:16

school shootings. We have to do

140:17

something." It's like,

140:18

>> "Yeah, but what percentage of school

140:20

shootings are actually with 3D printed

140:21

weapons? The problem is that people can

140:23

get like weapons of mass killing

140:28

regardless like it's not 3D printed

140:30

guns. It seems it seems like a what's

140:33

the what's the what's the term? Not red

140:35

herring, but just that like a

140:37

distraction. What's the

140:38

>> Isn't that red herring?

140:40

>> Sort of. It's in a different context.

140:41

>> It stands out, I guess. Um I'm not sure,

140:45

but I know what you're trying to say.

140:46

>> Yeah. Somebody somebody tell me tell me

140:48

what it's called. Straw man. Yeah, straw

140:51

man. That's the one.

140:52

>> Raiden 428 in flip plane chat said, "Not

140:55

sure this law is intended to actually

140:57

work. It's for politicians to say they

140:59

have done something." And I think that's

141:00

one of the reasons why we're kind of

141:01

frustrated about it

141:02

>> is like it's uh it's like a a political

141:07

signaling tactic which

141:09

>> it's just garbage and going to be really

141:11

annoying for people and again

141:13

>> involve things like Palunteer in stuff

141:15

that

141:17

>> makes even less sense than normal.

141:21

>> What if we had no Palunteer in our 3D

141:22

printers?

141:25

>> I propose a bill that there's no

141:26

Palunteer in 3D printers.

141:28

>> Yeah, that'd be awesome. That sounds

141:29

great.

141:32

>> It's just political crap. It's um

141:36

>> if you ran for office, I'd vote for you.

141:40

>> I'm serious.

141:42

>> I don't think I would last very long.

141:44

[laughter]

141:45

>> Well, I'd vote for you.

141:47

>> That's all I'm saying.

141:48

>> Thanks, man.

141:48

>> Because I think you wouldn't be down for

141:50

political crap. [laughter]

141:53

I appreciate that.

141:55

>> But I'd call it that. And in and in

141:57

Canada that it doesn't go super well.

141:59

>> Um

142:00

>> people get really upset.

142:02

>> Uh I don't know. Do they anymore? I'm

142:04

not sure.

142:05

>> How far away from Elbowgate are we?

142:07

>> I think we're pretty far from Elbowgate.

142:09

I think

142:10

>> I think that um

142:13

>> if you want to have a fun dive into

142:14

Canadian politics that was like an

142:16

actual thing that people actually cared

142:17

about was Elbow Gate. And you think

142:20

about like American things that have

142:21

gate on the end of it and are involved

142:23

with politics and then you then you look

142:25

at Elbo Gate and you're like, "Oh, this

142:27

is why a lot of Canadians pay more

142:28

attention to American politics because

142:30

the show is more fun and entertaining to

142:32

watch."

142:36

>> Sorry.

142:36

>> Which honestly living here sounds great.

142:39

If that's like the peak of of some of

142:41

the craziness, which I mean it isn't

142:43

anymore, but if it was, that would be

142:45

that would have been awesome.

142:49

I I'm I'm kind of down with the boring

142:52

sometimes.

142:54

>> There's a I'm just trying to find uh I'm

142:56

trying to find a a written

142:59

um transcript of it, but there's a

143:02

like Mark Carney has actually been kind

143:04

of a troll a couple at least a few times

143:07

and he's seems like he's got enough

143:09

charisma that he's mostly gotten away

143:11

with it. So, this is this is the one

143:12

that I was thinking of. So he like

143:15

someone someone made a comment about how

143:19

um Mr. Polyver once said about Mark

143:22

Carney that he's badly educated on

143:25

economics or something like that and

143:26

Carney's like, "Well, I take back the

143:28

positive thing I said about [laughter]

143:29

him." It was like really funny. Um it's

143:32

the kind of thing that in Canadian

143:34

politics, I feel like there was a time

143:35

when you probably wouldn't have gotten

143:37

away with that. Definitely not during

143:38

Elbowgate,

143:40

>> but he definitely got away with it. But

143:42

it was also really funny.

143:43

>> [laughter]

143:45

>> Hopefully you can rewrite that stuff.

143:48

The the the bailing out developers and

143:50

whatnot path he was on for a little bit

143:52

was

143:54

not fun.

143:59

No, Dan, I won't. Instead, I want to

144:01

talk about this.

144:02

>> What's this? A San Francisco Bay Area

144:04

landlord has sparked online debate

144:08

due to their plan to charge potential

144:10

tenants an extra $200 per month if

144:12

they're going to work from home in the

144:14

rental property. The 535 ft cottage was

144:18

listed with a base rent of 3250 a month.

144:21

First of all, oh my god. Um with

144:25

utilities and internet included. Oh,

144:27

well that's why

144:28

>> the base rent is already pretty high as

144:30

far as we can tell for the neighborhood

144:31

where averages are $24.57 a month and

144:34

around 700 ft.

144:37

On top of that, if the plan is for the

144:40

person to work from home, they wanted to

144:41

charge an extra $200.

144:44

Some folks online are calling the fee

144:46

insane and absurd and a way to squeeze

144:49

out additional money while others were

144:52

more sympathetic to the landlord arguing

144:53

that work from home could increase the

144:56

use of utilities. So our discussion

144:59

question here is

145:02

what the dillio um what's your take on

145:05

this? I mean, it's interesting because

145:07

uh like up here if I I believe it's

145:12

fairly common that if you start say

145:15

you're single and you're renting and

145:17

then you start living with someone, your

145:20

rent will often go up and the reason why

145:22

your rent will go up is uh often usage

145:25

of utilities and whatnot.

145:27

>> Yeah. If utilities are included in the

145:29

rent, then utilities more cost aren't

145:31

included

145:33

>> then this would just happen naturally.

145:37

because you would just be using more

145:39

utilities because you're at home more.

145:40

So, your cost would just go up.

145:43

>> Do you think there's any justification?

145:45

Because one of the other logics that I

145:47

saw

145:47

>> 200 bucks a month seems like a lot

145:49

though.

145:49

>> It does seem like a lot. There's $2,400

145:50

a year.

145:51

>> I don't know what their power costs.

145:54

>> Like, is this just the landlord going,

145:55

"Okay, well, clearly you are not, you

145:58

know,

146:00

your fuel that you're saving by not

146:02

commuting to and from the office means

146:03

you have more money. I just want some of

146:05

it. Like, do you think it's that simple?

146:06

>> But I What? This is California, right?

146:08

What is their power? Does that actually

146:09

just like

146:10

>> Oh, power is expensive.

146:11

>> Is it Is would it be that much? 200

146:13

bucks a month to run a a computer and

146:16

maybe some lights and whatever else. It

146:18

seems really high, really high for up

146:21

here.

146:22

>> But I don't I don't know.

146:23

>> People in chat are saying, "Yeah, yeah,

146:25

it would." Like 200 a month is is like

146:28

Oh, wait. People are saying not at all.

146:29

But other people are saying yes. No,

146:31

definitely. Speaking from experience,

146:32

yes. Crystal's Canadian.

146:35

>> Oh, yeah. Crystal.

146:37

[laughter]

146:40

[snorts]

146:42

>> Hm.

146:42

>> Power jumps between 25 cents to 50

146:45

cents. Wow. It's

146:45

>> really per kilowatt hour.

146:48

Wow. Or is it some some like weird

146:49

Yankee unit?

146:50

>> Half that is internet. But

146:52

>> I know I know you guys use kilowatt

146:53

hours. I'm just kidding.

146:54

>> Half that is internet doesn't make any

146:55

sense cuz internet's a fixed fee per

146:56

month.

146:56

>> Yeah. So that one should that one

146:58

shouldn't matter.

147:00

>> Is Yeah. What are you talking about? No,

147:01

Crystal's not Crystal's not Canadian.

147:02

>> What is she not?

147:03

>> I don't think so.

147:04

>> Am I tripping?

147:05

>> Yeah, my bad.

147:06

>> Yeah, we to go, Luke.

147:07

>> Sorry.

147:07

>> Um, honorary Canadian. There you go,

147:09

Crystal.

147:10

>> Yeah,

147:10

>> we we turned that we turned that frown

147:12

upside down now. Um, okay. So, so one of

147:15

the other logics that I've seen for this

147:17

justifying the landlord's action is that

147:20

almost anything costs more for

147:22

commercial use,

147:23

>> whether you're renting a tool. Hold on,

147:26

hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold

147:28

on, hold on, hold on. Give me Give me a

147:29

sec. I'm going somewhere with this.

147:31

>> Yeah.

147:33

>> So, there's a couple things that from my

147:35

experience do make business use more

147:38

demanding on anything. Um, people tend

147:42

not to treat things that they don't own

147:44

very carefully. And I see this anytime I

147:47

walk around in our warehouse. I see this

147:49

firsthand. company property does not get

147:52

I I will watch someone baby their

147:55

personal Steam Deck and then just like

147:57

huck their work laptop that is worth

147:59

many times what the Steam Deck is

148:01

because it's just not theirs. And I've

148:02

kind of I've kind of made my peace with

148:04

it at this point, but it doesn't change

148:06

that it is a fact that people do not

148:08

treat

148:10

corporate stuff the same way that they

148:12

do their own stuff. Now, that would be

148:13

true of any rental property, but

148:17

I guess the argument here is that if

148:18

you're using it way more, there could be

148:20

more wear and tear just in general on

148:24

the place because you're in there a lot

148:26

more and,

148:28

you know, opening things and closing

148:30

things and using things a lot more. Do

148:33

you think there's an argument there at

148:34

all? Because it's that's just one of the

148:36

other sort of lines of reasoning that I

148:37

saw. Oh, right. Sorry. And then and then

148:39

the other part of it is like anything

148:41

commercial does tend to does tend to get

148:45

an upcharge on it because it is being

148:46

used to make money and also it does tend

148:48

to get used more. Like my my drill at

148:52

home, my my personal drill gets used

148:54

very little because it's used by one

148:56

person in the very limited time a day

148:58

that he is not at work and actually has

149:00

the wherewithal to work on a project.

149:03

Whereas the drill that we have in the

149:06

workshop over there is far more likely

149:08

to be used every day because it's spread

149:10

across 50 people who might need to use

149:12

it. And actually we spend more hours a

149:15

day of our waking hours at work than we

149:18

do at home and not also eating or

149:20

sleeping or whatever else. So do you

149:23

think there's any logic there?

149:25

>> Uh I mean I think there's inherent logic

149:27

in like things for companies cost more

149:30

and and yada yada yada. Uh, also that

149:33

increased usage costs increased wear.

149:36

Um, I honestly think if this person is

149:39

honestly working from home,

149:42

>> uh, the increased usage of the space

149:44

isn't really that much.

149:46

>> You're sitting at your desk the whole

149:48

time.

149:48

>> That's where I was going to kind of come

149:49

at it from next. It's like, are you

149:51

really using it that much more if you're

149:52

sitting at a desk?

149:53

>> Yeah. It's like like the theoretically

149:55

you're just

149:56

>> kind of sitting there and like yeah sure

149:58

you can make an argue that like the

149:59

weight of the wheels and your your your

150:02

feet and whatnot is like a little bit

150:05

but realistically I think that's very

150:07

small compared to just occupying the

150:10

space and denying other people entry to

150:12

the space which is what you're

150:13

realistically paying for. You might be

150:14

running the HVAC more.

150:16

>> That that is a

150:17

>> but that comes that again comes down to

150:19

like mostly power

150:21

>> some maintenance

150:22

>> but also definitely also maintenance. I

150:24

mean

150:25

>> you've seen how often they break down

150:27

around here.

150:28

>> Yeah. Mine dude

150:29

>> like

150:30

>> often.

150:30

>> So

150:32

>> depending on whether that's something

150:33

that's included is as part of it and we

150:36

don't know that. I haven't actually

150:37

looked at the listing. The power thing

150:39

though, like I don't I don't remember

150:42

the various agreements that I paid over

150:44

time. I think usually power was not

150:47

included, but this was also pre-work

150:49

from home, precrypto mining at home, pre

150:53

lots of those types of things. Um,

150:57

>> Struggy asks, "Do y'all not do security

150:58

deposits for rentals?" This argument

151:00

makes no sense.

151:02

>> Still makes sense.

151:02

>> It's complicated, right? like security

151:05

deposits um do exist up here but on both

151:10

sides I feel like there is a lot of

151:12

asery that um that takes place around

151:16

security deposits. So I would not

151:18

consider from either side. I would, as a

151:21

renter, I would not consider getting my

151:24

security deposit back to be a guarantee.

151:26

And as a landlord, I would not consider

151:30

um

151:32

getting the security deposit to cover

151:34

renter damage to be a guarantee. I I've

151:36

seen so many horror stories both ways

151:38

around security.

151:39

>> I've seen the security deposit be way

151:40

less than the renter damage. I've also

151:42

seen people who leave places just

151:44

immaculate

151:46

um have land owners try to take their

151:49

whole deposit. It's just like, bro,

151:50

>> yeah, I've seen horror stories both

151:53

ways, and it's [clears throat] so much

151:54

work and so much expense and so much

151:56

time to rectify it with a jerk on either

152:01

other side of the of the transaction

152:03

that [snorts]

152:07

I I still think it's a valuable

152:09

conversation. That's what we're trying

152:10

to say.

152:10

>> So, someone in chat, I lost your name.

152:12

Sorry. Someone in chat linked this and

152:14

said, "This is the power."

152:15

>> That's a weird username. [laughter] I

152:17

>> actually kind of like it. I lost your

152:18

name. Sorry,

152:19

>> that is pretty good. Uh I don't know.

152:22

Yeah,

152:23

>> I don't know where it is, but this is

152:24

this is theoretically the power company

152:27

for the area. And they're talking about

152:28

their price hikes.

152:29

>> Damn, dude. You know what they should do

152:30

is they should build more data centers.

152:33

>> So from 2020 to 2025, it's had a 64% uh

152:37

increase, six times versus inflation and

152:40

stuff. So power there might be really

152:44

brutal.

152:44

>> Here's what I'm trying to figure out.

152:47

How exactly do we calculate inflation?

152:49

Because I feel like every single time I

152:51

look at this number, everything in my

152:53

life is way higher than it.

152:54

>> I They also don't agree. Well, yeah. Uh

152:57

and and the the the places that measure

152:59

it also don't agree. I I was trying to

153:01

figure this out a few years back. Um and

153:04

found that like even at the government

153:06

level, different parts of government

153:08

don't agree.

153:10

It's I was reading a really interesting

153:12

article about the one of the teams that

153:15

is tasked with measuring inflation

153:17

getting their budget and staffing

153:19

dramatically cut as part of the Doge

153:22

thing. So instead of going and actually

153:25

being able to check in person uh I think

153:27

it was groceries they had to rely on way

153:30

more limited data from like online

153:32

reporting that is not like that they

153:34

know is not accurate. And so,

153:36

>> didn't this happen to like job losses,

153:38

job market stuff as well? They let off

153:40

the team that checked out like new jobs

153:43

versus lost jobs, and they couldn't

153:45

accurately measure it anymore.

153:46

>> I think it was the head of that report

153:48

that got terminated for uh fluctuation

153:50

in the report, which by the way is a

153:52

totally normal thing cuz there's always

153:53

corrections, but it got corrected in a

153:55

way that made some people unhappy and

153:58

they lost their job.

153:59

>> Okay. Yeah.

153:59

>> So, there's been there's been lots of

154:02

interesting stuff happening. It's been a

154:03

We live in very interesting times. It's

154:05

been an especially interesting couple of

154:07

years.

154:09

As someone who, you know,

154:12

likes to read, there's been a lot to

154:14

read about.

154:16

>> That's about the only positive spin I

154:17

think I can put on it.

154:18

>> There has been a lot to read.

154:19

>> There's been a lot to read about.

154:22

>> I go through I I I do this with my news

154:25

consumption. I'm currently in a low uh

154:27

>> It's a good place to be.

154:28

>> Yeah. And then I'll get curious about

154:31

what's going on in the world. And I'm

154:32

like, oh my god. And then I, oh, we

154:35

should all be worried about this and be

154:36

talking about his stuff. And then I go,

154:38

oh yeah, that that doesn't really

154:40

doesn't really change anything.

154:41

>> I don't think I ever talked about this

154:42

on W show, but do you remember our trip

154:43

to New York?

154:44

>> Yeah.

154:44

>> And we went there for Fallon and uh I

154:47

was just marveling as we were sitting

154:49

there eating cheesecake

154:52

>> how normal everything felt.

154:53

>> Yeah. because when you're insulated

154:56

from, you know, whatever is going on,

154:58

it's easy to for things to just feel

155:00

really normal. Um,

155:08

anyway,

155:12

yeah, I'll resist going back to reading.

155:14

And to be clear, I'm not like completely

155:15

disconnected from the news. I just, you

155:17

know, the biggest part of it actually

155:19

has been just removing Google News from

155:21

my phone.

155:22

>> Yeah. I don't instinctively swipe over

155:24

there anymore.

155:25

>> Wicked smart.

155:26

>> And then yeah, stuff still shows up. I

155:28

get links from from friends or whatever.

155:30

I'm still in tune with a few things, but

155:32

it's just not as like constantly feeding

155:35

terrible things into my brain anymore,

155:37

which is which is good.

155:38

>> Unique username asks. I don't understand

155:39

what wasn't normal with the cheesecake.

155:41

The cheesecake was perfectly normal,

155:42

actually. Maybe even good. Um, but more

155:44

just like the contrast between

155:48

reading your phone and how many terrible

155:51

things are happening around the world

155:52

and how much

155:53

>> more bombs are dropping,

155:54

>> freaking out about them

155:56

>> and how if we just don't look at that

155:58

and we just go out for dinner and eat

156:00

some nice cheesecake

156:04

>> we don't actually like we don't actually

156:05

interface with it. and how if you if you

156:09

live in a news bubble, you can be

156:11

completely doomer everything is falling

156:12

apart. Um like like you can you can

156:15

overcorrect and if you completely

156:18

live in a bubble of I you know what I

156:21

don't want to know anything about any of

156:22

that you can completely think everything

156:25

is fine even if things are actually not

156:26

really very fine and just how how much

156:29

contrast there is between

156:31

news addicts and people who don't look

156:33

at it at all I guess was just the the

156:34

thought that I had. It was just an

156:36

interesting thought. Um, you know what

156:39

else is interesting? Windows 11 users

156:40

are getting a surprise new photo app.

156:42

Microsoft's at it again with the new One

156:45

Drive photos app. They uh install it

156:48

without any notice, prompts, or

156:49

permissions. It's not clear if it's

156:52

snuck in via Windows update or an update

156:53

for one drive. Uh Jordan puts note it's

156:57

on my work machine but doesn't appear to

156:58

be on Elijah's. And the appears as a

157:00

separate executable in the One Drive

157:02

program folder and cannot be removed

157:04

separately from One Drive. One Drive

157:06

Photos doesn't require a Microsoft

157:08

account to run, but functionality is

157:10

limited to displaying your local images

157:12

for sorting or editing. If you do sign

157:14

in, the app becomes a full One Drive

157:15

gallery and you gain access to AI

157:17

powered cloud search, which like Windows

157:19

recall can use OCR to read visible text

157:22

in photos much like the um

157:26

in order to find relevant results.

157:27

That's fascinating. One Drive photos

157:29

automatically scans your system storage

157:31

for photos and if you grant permission

157:33

can group similar faces that it finds in

157:34

your photos. Microsoft claims the data

157:37

isn't shared and that you only and that

157:40

only you can see the grouped faces. But

157:42

Microsoft claims a lot of things that

157:43

aren't actually true about its AI tools.

157:45

So take that with as much salt as you

157:47

can get your hands on. If you want to

157:48

remove one drive photos, you will need

157:50

to entirely remove one drive by going to

157:52

settings/installed

157:53

apps. Here, I'll show you guys how to do

157:55

it right now.

157:56

>> Yeah. Sweet.

157:58

>> How to remove programs.

158:01

You know, to Microsoft's Oh, apparently

158:04

I've already removed one drive. Well,

158:06

you'll find it there.

158:07

>> Probably did that when you was setting

158:08

our system.

158:09

>> Yeah. To Microsoft's credit, you can

158:10

remove almost everything now. Like you

158:12

can remove the camera app,

158:15

which is nice. I wish they wouldn't keep

158:18

reinstalling things,

158:20

but hey, this is this does still feel

158:22

like progress compared to

158:25

some points. And well, all right.

158:28

>> Yeah, except on if you're like a One

158:30

Drive subscriber because they shoved it

158:31

down your throat 37 trillion times. Now

158:34

you can't get rid of AI searching your

158:35

photos.

158:37

>> Yeah,

158:41

sorry, but I just [laughter] I can't I

158:43

can't quite give him that one. No, I was

158:46

trying really hard.

158:47

>> Yeah. Yeah. Which is valid. We should

158:49

try to when when companies do cool

158:50

stuff, we should try to

158:51

>> It's just It's become kind of a

158:52

tradition for there to be some

158:54

legitimately cool Microsoft news every

158:56

week. And this week, um, we just because

159:00

I only read the headline, I had selected

159:02

that one as my good news.

159:05

>> But but [laughter] as I went through and

159:07

I was reading the topic, I was like,

159:08

"Oh, this sucks."

159:09

>> Yeah.

159:10

>> Okay.

159:11

>> Yeah. Yeah,

159:12

>> but maybe it sucks a little less than

159:14

some things have ever sucked,

159:16

[clears throat] which [laughter] is

159:19

>> Speaking of things that would suck.

159:20

>> So, it's a broken vacuum cleaner.

159:23

[laughter]

159:24

>> Micro suck.

159:26

Just a little suck.

159:30

>> Micro suck. The world's smallest.

159:31

>> Hey, when you're me, everything's a

159:32

micro suck. Know what I'm saying?

159:34

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159:36

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159:38

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>> By the way,

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>> we got an account.

162:27

>> Sorry, what's that?

162:28

>> We have an HS account.

162:29

>> Oh, do we? Okay.

162:30

>> Yeah, we're we're triing it out.

162:31

>> Oh, pretty exciting.

162:34

Uh, Light Fury Flip Plane chat said uh

162:36

when I mentioned my like some people are

162:39

getting screwed because they use one

162:40

drive and now they would have to

162:41

uninstall one drive blah blah blah. They

162:42

said eg my fiance uh who can't use their

162:46

university one drive for their PhD

162:48

because ethics approval is only for

162:49

university managed systems.

162:56

>> Oh wow.

162:57

>> It's kind of weird.

162:58

>> Yeah.

163:00

and a lot of

163:04

like I'm assuming if they're doing

163:06

processing and whatnot.

163:08

>> Yeah.

163:08

>> Offsite that Microsoft would be pretty

163:11

good about doing their like incountry

163:13

thing. Uh one of the big reasons why a

163:15

lot of schools and whatnot use Teams is

163:18

because a lot of schools have rules

163:20

where all of the data can't leave the

163:22

country. Yeah.

163:23

>> So if you use an outside service, it has

163:25

to be hosted within the country. So,

163:26

Microsoft can do things where your teams

163:29

will only ever call out to Microsoft

163:30

servers that are in Canada, for example,

163:32

if you're Canadian university.

163:33

>> U, but I I guess we don't know about

163:36

this system.

163:37

>> Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't think

163:39

about that.

163:39

>> It gets really tricky when it can look

163:41

through all your pictures.

163:42

>> Well, yeah.

163:43

>> What do you have pictures of?

163:45

>> In a lot of scenarios, you have pictures

163:46

of of stuff that you can't necessarily

163:49

have getting randomly searched by

163:51

Microsoft's AI. Um, EJC 1090 also said,

163:55

"Same with GovCloud stuff." Like, yeah,

163:58

>> I have some cool pictures. Do you want

164:00

to see them?

164:00

>> Sure.

164:01

>> I'm going to send them to Dan.

164:05

>> Here, hold on. This will take a second.

164:07

Why don't you do a quick topic?

164:09

>> Sure. Um,

164:13

missing underscore and an innocent. Uh,

164:15

let's go here. We're going to skip the

164:16

title. I got to get used to doing that.

164:18

A tiny typo turned into a nightmare when

164:20

Wisconsin police hunting for a kick

164:22

messenger user named Fouse_Row_D.

164:30

Two underscores is the key point there.

164:32

Accidentally obtained the records for a

164:34

different user. Fouse row dah one

164:38

underscore leading them to the wrong

164:40

person. Halifax area man named Brandon

164:43

Clay uh in a seam investigation. Not

164:46

something you want to get [laughter]

164:48

wrongfully tied up in. Uh claim uh was

164:51

con convicted and spent 18 Oh, he

164:54

actually did it. Oh my god. Uh claim was

164:57

convicted and spent 18 months in prison

165:00

despite investigators finding no

165:02

evidence linking him to the crimes.

165:04

>> Crazy.

165:05

>> The username mixup wasn't discovered

165:06

until Clay was preparing to appeal his

165:09

conviction. The conviction was

165:11

eventually overturned and the court

165:13

found Claim factually innocent. The

165:15

appeal board declared he should never

165:17

have been charged, let alone convicted.

165:21

Oh, and you spend a year and a half in

165:24

jail. That's enough to wreck your life.

165:27

>> Yeah.

165:28

>> Like hard. Relationships potentially

165:30

over job very likely not able to be gone

165:34

back to.

165:36

>> Wow.

165:41

>> Uh oh. Are they not? Oh, wait. Hold on.

165:46

Um, thanks Dan.

165:52

>> Two, three, and four are fine.

165:56

>> And then hold on. Hold on. Let me uh do

165:58

something real quick here.

165:59

>> Goodness. I'll go through some

166:00

discussion questions while you guys

166:01

figure this out. Discussion question.

166:02

What safeguards should exist to prevent

166:04

law enforcement from acting on

166:05

potentially unreliable digital evidence?

166:07

Well, dude, we are not the right people

166:10

to answer that. Um, man, ideally they

166:13

would have like seen

166:17

[sighs] seen the difference somewhere.

166:20

How when he originally got convicted,

166:22

how did they not like

166:24

figure this out? That's actually crazy

166:27

to not have noticed. U, how should

166:29

courts evaluate evidence that comes from

166:31

online identities, usernames, and other

166:32

digital identifiers? man, we're asking

166:34

some like pretty high level legal stuff

166:36

that not gonna not equipped to answer,

166:39

especially on the spot live on a show.

166:41

Um, but maybe they should like make sure

166:44

I mean I've had this problem with uh

166:47

login before. I remember we we had a

166:50

login like when you're submitting a new

166:52

app to the app store um they will log

166:55

into it and check out how your app works

166:57

because they're trying to see if it's

166:58

okay to go on the app store or not. You

167:00

have to provide a login for them to do

167:02

that. uh for float plane in the past. We

167:05

did that. I don't remember if it was

167:06

Google or Apple. I think it was I think

167:09

it was Apple, but I genuinely don't

167:12

remember which it was. And they mistyped

167:15

um they they did like float plane and

167:17

but plane was P L A I N or something

167:20

like that. And they got the domain wrong

167:22

and they couldn't log in and they're

167:23

like your app can't go up. We can't log

167:25

into it. You're trying to do bad things.

167:26

And we were like or you could just copy

167:29

and paste the

167:30

>> Why would you ever not use copy paste

167:31

for a login? So, like

167:33

>> that's crazy in in stuff like this,

167:35

knowing how many different usernames

167:36

there can be for different things and

167:38

knowing the slight variance in usernames

167:39

that can exist,

167:42

you know, maybe they never deal with

167:43

things in a way that you're typing it

167:45

in. Maybe they just have to copy paste

167:46

all the time. I don't know. Um,

167:49

>> all right, Dan.

167:50

>> Yeah,

167:50

>> go ahead.

167:52

>> Oh, he's working on it. He's cooking.

167:56

>> Okay. Ready?

167:57

>> I have decided to retire and pursue my

168:00

true passion.

168:01

>> Nice. which is converting outdoor

168:04

children's playhouses into chicken

168:05

coops.

168:09

[laughter]

168:10

That

168:10

>> is the blurriiest photo. There we go.

168:13

>> Uh so this was a little playhouse that

168:15

Ivonne found on Facebook Marketplace.

168:17

>> That's a cool project.

168:18

>> And um we went and picked up some wood

168:21

stain and some plywood. And my kids make

168:24

funny faces when I take pictures of them

168:26

now, which is very helpful. Thank you,

168:28

my kids. Um, that's my son staple

168:30

gunning in some leftover vinyl crap that

168:33

we had lying around. You can actually

168:35

see the little the nesting boxes behind

168:37

him. Uh, you can also see the kind of

168:40

jerryrigged holders that I made for the

168:43

uh the perches. Um, Dan, do you want to

168:46

show the perch shot with the chickens on

168:48

it? We didn't mean to adopt chickens. It

168:50

was it was unintentional.

168:52

>> We did this fun thing that I think I've

168:54

talked about where

168:55

>> of course they're both there. You get

168:57

some incubated eggs and you get like a

169:00

little incubator for them. And you get

169:03

this like viewer thing that you can look

169:05

inside and see the the eggs developing

169:07

into little chicks and then you get to

169:10

raise the chicks and you can kind of

169:12

hand feed them and play with them. And

169:15

then you just kind of give them back

169:16

when you're done. And then something

169:18

really unfortunate happened is the kids

169:22

named them.

169:23

>> Yeah. And uh I discovered [laughter]

169:26

which I didn't know cuz on my hobby farm

169:29

chickens were just egg factories and we

169:31

didn't interact with them at all. But I

169:32

didn't realize that as part of their

169:35

being social creatures and flock animals

169:38

um they actually do recognize humans and

169:43

do form social bonds with humans and um

169:47

are actually highly highly interactive

169:51

>> social creatures and uh I we couldn't

169:55

give them away.

169:56

>> It's kind of the same way I ended up

169:58

with chickens when I was a kid. the

170:00

local grade one class did the same thing

170:02

and then they're like, "What are we

170:04

going to do with them?" Uh

170:07

cuz those also look like weird artisal

170:09

breeds that are like random types of

170:11

chickens, right?

170:12

>> Yep. Same thing. They're great. You'll

170:16

enjoy them. Um

170:18

>> they're stinky.

170:20

>> They are. [laughter]

170:22

My son took what is probably the least

170:24

flattering couple's photos photo of me

170:27

and Ivonne ever to ever to exist. Um,

170:31

but it's a great illustration of how

170:34

how fun the chickens are. I'm just going

170:37

to

170:37

>> Are you making it so like coyotes can't

170:39

get them and stuff?

170:40

>> Oh, you better believe it.

170:41

>> Or not easily at least.

170:42

>> Last thing I want is for coyotes to eat

170:44

our precious chickens.

170:45

>> The uh the concern is actually raccoons.

170:49

>> The concern is anything. Uh but yeah, B

170:52

with the staple gun, we're putting

170:53

hardware hardware cloth across all of

170:55

the like ingra you have to have

170:57

ventilation. I had to like I downloaded

171:00

like a whole bunch of chicken coupe

171:01

videos on one of my uh on my flight back

171:03

from

171:04

>> chicken coupe YouTube

171:05

>> was a long flight. I forget where I was

171:07

coming back from.

171:08

>> Let me know when you want me to put that

171:09

up.

171:09

>> Yeah, go for it.

171:10

>> People in chat, I'd be concerned about

171:12

Luke. [laughter]

171:14

So, anytime we lean over and say hi to

171:16

them, they like they come jump up and

171:18

they get all like they get all puffed up

171:20

and they get all friendly and

171:23

>> yeah, we can get that off the screen

171:24

now. Thank you.

171:25

>> One thing that was cool is you can like

171:27

train them too. We always had the like

171:28

the wheat seed like the the un mil

171:33

grain. You have a little tub of it and

171:35

you shake it and they all come running.

171:36

So,

171:36

>> yeah.

171:37

>> Crazy crazy animal.

171:40

So now I have chickens.

171:43

>> No, we both have birds.

171:44

>> I didn't I don't even eat eggs. I don't

171:47

like them.

171:49

>> I have chickens. [laughter]

171:54

>> Does Does boy eat eggs?

171:56

>> Oh, yeah.

171:57

>> Yeah, I expected so.

171:58

>> Oh, we'll consume the eggs. It's just

172:00

like I didn't I don't want I didn't want

172:03

more animals. It's like I don't have a

172:05

dog because I don't I don't have a a

172:08

life that is generally compatible with

172:10

like okay it's this time and they need

172:12

to do I need to do this for them. With

172:14

that said okay chickens

172:16

>> chickens are a bit more

172:17

>> a

172:17

>> lot of opportunities for automation.

172:19

>> Yeah. Chickens. Yeah.

172:20

>> And so I've been uh as part of my

172:22

vacation time I've been

172:23

>> home assistant chickens

172:25

>> playing a lot more around with home

172:27

assistant.

172:28

>> I finally got it to the point where just

172:30

because I just have not gotten around to

172:32

it. Not because it's particularly

172:34

difficult, but I've got it to the point

172:35

now where if Ivonne is at her desk in

172:38

the office for more than 20 minutes, it

172:39

just starts playing her playlist.

172:42

So, she can just chill and vibe and the

172:43

music will be on and if she leaves for 5

172:46

minutes, it will turn off.

172:47

>> Is this Odysius?

172:48

>> Um, no.

172:49

>> Okay.

172:49

>> No, this is just this is just basic

172:51

simple home assistant stuff that I was

172:54

never the one who set it up. So going in

172:57

after the fact in some ways can be more

172:59

difficult because you're trying to

173:00

figure out

173:01

>> what happened here,

173:02

>> what what exactly happened here and how

173:03

does all this work and it also you're

173:06

less incentivized because everything

173:08

that you need to work kind of

173:09

fundamentally does work. But I'm finally

173:11

installing those invelli millimeter wave

173:13

switches. Um so we can do proper

173:17

presence sensing pretty much anywhere in

173:19

the house. Um the Sonus integration is

173:22

actually really great. So, I'm finally

173:24

starting to play around with like, okay,

173:25

how can I start to finally freaking

173:27

automate some stuff around this house?

173:28

And I'm looking at like looking at the

173:31

chickens and going like, okay, now hold

173:33

on a second.

173:34

>> Oh, there's tons.

173:35

>> This could be very cool.

173:37

>> Most of it

173:37

>> you can get them. It seems like to the

173:39

point where you basically like once a

173:41

month fill up the food hopper and once

173:45

every week or two weeks like shovel out

173:48

all the crap.

173:49

>> Yeah, we could even theoretically have

173:50

done it with the budgies. the budgies,

173:51

the problem is mostly a cleanliness

173:53

thing. So, you end up needing to clean

173:55

it so often that it just doesn't really

173:57

make a difference, right?

173:58

>> Um,

174:00

>> so it's not as applicable, but with

174:01

chickens, they're outdoors, which helps

174:03

with that a lot.

174:04

>> Yeah.

174:05

>> Yep.

174:07

We um

174:09

think one of them might be a rooster.

174:12

>> Oh, no.

174:13

>> So, that's a bit of a up on our

174:15

part.

174:15

>> Good luck with that, man.

174:17

>> Yeah.

174:17

>> Um, well, it wasn't a mistake. It wasn't

174:20

a mistake. I just needed to make that

174:21

joke. We got them as eggs, so we had no

174:23

way of knowing what they were going to

174:23

be.

174:24

>> Are you going to deal with it?

174:25

>> Apparently, you can get collars for them

174:28

that prevent them from fully filling the

174:30

air sack to do the the full crow.

174:32

>> No, it's more about the violence.

174:34

>> Um,

174:38

I do know that they can be a little bit

174:41

aggressive with strangers.

174:43

>> Did you ever have a a rooster?

174:44

>> No, I never had a rooster. Oh, wait.

174:46

Yes, I did. That's a lie. Um my my my

174:49

pet chicken. Okay, so this is

174:51

complicated. Before the hobby farm, I

174:53

ended up with a pet chicken named

174:55

Henrietta. She was white. She was a

174:57

rooster. Uh we found that out later. And

175:00

so she started

175:01

>> She was a rooster.

175:02

>> Yeah. She started crowing in the

175:03

mornings and I had to give her away to a

175:06

nice farm that I was assured would not

175:07

eat her. She was certainly eaten. Um,

175:10

but anyway, the point is, yes, I have

175:11

owned a rooster and I would hold her

175:14

like this like a baby and pet her and

175:16

she actually loved it. It was uh it was

175:18

it was pretty great. [snorts]

175:20

>> Nice.

175:20

>> And then I didn't have her anymore

175:21

because she was a boy.

175:23

>> Yeah. Mine was called Mrs. Snooty, as I

175:25

called her.

175:26

>> Mrs. Snoody. So, you also named your

175:28

rooster a boy name.

175:29

>> Is this a thing we have in common?

175:31

>> Well, I mean, when you when you have

175:33

them young, like they don't you don't

175:34

know you don't know what they are. And

175:36

so, it's like, oh, well, they're all

175:37

women. And then this one is evil. But um

175:40

>> I see.

175:41

>> Yeah.

175:42

>> Or snooty.

175:42

>> They wanted to protect Well, he wanted

175:46

to protect his girls

175:47

>> and you know, you get near it and the

175:49

thing was just crazy. It would attack

175:51

you. It would uh

175:52

>> I have heard that. I have heard that

175:53

about some of them, but it was not my

175:55

personal experience, but he didn't have

175:56

any ladies to protect.

175:58

>> Uh so yeah, I had about 13 and so you

176:01

know, he had his flock. Um, so,

176:05

uh,

176:06

you know, we dealt with ours. Yours went

176:09

to a different farm. We We

176:11

>> did that ourselves. Uh, great tasting

176:14

bird, I'll tell you that.

176:15

>> Right. Nice. Yeah.

176:16

>> Uh,

176:17

>> so you had to eat your pet, too. So, we

176:19

do have that in common, then.

176:20

>> Yeah. Yeah. I think I think people don't

176:22

get to own animals unless they've eaten

176:25

them before.

176:30

They

176:32

>> That's very strange.

176:34

>> I I think I could I think I could

176:36

understand what you're talking about at

176:38

all if you said it the other way.

176:40

>> Yeah.

176:40

>> Like people shouldn't eat animals unless

176:42

they've you know

176:45

um but they they shouldn't [laughter]

176:47

own animals in I'm going to turn off the

176:49

producer camera. Uh why don't

176:51

>> put Dan back away. [laughter]

176:56

There's a bunch of people in chat view

176:57

like hamster [laughter] and cat.

177:01

>> Actually, we have the original joy of

177:03

cooking that has guinea pig in it.

177:05

>> Oh my god. Old Jo old joy of cooking

177:08

freaking toms are freaking crazy. All

177:11

the recipes for brains and stuff like

177:13

>> Oh yeah. This thing is is thick and it's

177:17

crazy.

177:17

>> It's wild. You get old joy of cooking.

177:19

YOU'RE LIKE WHAT WAS THE JOY IN EATING

177:20

ANY OF THIS? [laughter] I HOPE THERE'S

177:22

JOY IN THE COOKING of it. There's a

177:24

little drawing of a guinea pig. It's

177:25

like [laughter]

177:27

I'm putting this book away. You don't

177:29

know what food is.

177:34

>> Oh boy.

177:34

>> Oh, I found some good news about

177:36

Windows. Windows 11 now allows you to

177:39

adjust your trackpad's rightclick zone.

177:43

A feature that Mac OS doesn't have.

177:45

>> Way to go, Windows. Way to go.

177:50

A genuinely, as far as I can tell, just

177:52

good thing.

177:53

>> Nathan's note from creating the notes

177:55

for this. I didn't know this was a thing

177:58

at all. I've always just done a

178:00

two-finger tap for my right clicks. Get

178:01

out, Nathan.

178:04

>> Gross.

178:06

[laughter]

178:07

I mean, I I I can be I can be a

178:08

two-finger tap guy sometimes, but it's

178:11

not as good for when you're two-handing

178:12

it.

178:12

>> Icky.

178:14

>> I mean, you you're very judgy today.

178:16

Have you noticed that?

178:17

>> Not even knowing it's a thing. You're

178:18

very judgy today.

178:19

>> Good.

178:21

>> Global PC shipments dropped 4% in Q2 of

178:25

2026. This is the first drop since 2024.

178:29

This is in the in the throws of the

178:32

memory crisis. IDC predicts that

178:35

shipments will decline 11.3% for the

178:37

full year and Q4 could see a drop of 20%

178:40

year-over-year. Uh, okay. Oh, the next

178:43

note says this. The blame is squarely on

178:44

massive hikes in DRM and NAND pricing

178:47

due to the demands of AI data centers.

178:51

Our discussion question is [cough]

178:54

[clears throat]

178:55

from Lionus.

178:57

It took this long.

178:59

>> Yeah, if anything, honestly,

179:00

>> I what? So, what what

179:02

>> that's crazy.

179:03

>> How did it take this long for because

179:05

everyone I talked to at like Computex

179:08

was like, "Yeah, yo, everything's

179:09

tough." But that's that's the enthusiast

179:13

space, right? So, it took this long for

179:17

sales to decline in like Lenovo laptops,

179:20

like the HP desktops at Best Buy or

179:22

whatever.

179:23

>> I mean, to be fair,

179:26

>> there's a big

179:27

>> in the IT space.

179:29

>> Yeah.

179:29

>> A lot of people had pre- purchased

179:31

things.

179:32

>> Um, like it's pretty common. We did this

179:35

to a certain degree. We had pre-

179:36

purchased some laptops. There was a lot

179:38

of push back internally against us doing

179:40

that in the past. Um, but we we got some

179:43

amount of them pre- purchased.

179:45

>> I mean, even inventory can be on like

179:47

you can sign a contract for what you're

179:49

it's going to be shipped over.

179:50

>> To be clear when I say there was a bunch

179:51

of push back. They had good reasons. I'm

179:53

not I'm not trying to do that. U they

179:57

they had very good reasons and there was

179:59

no way any of us could have seen these

180:01

price hikes coming. So, like their

180:03

reasons made a lot more sense when you

180:04

don't have, you know, you can't tell the

180:07

future.

180:08

>> Dropped a link in here. Oh, sorry. I

180:10

thought you were done.

180:11

>> Go ahead.

180:12

>> Oh, no. It's just basically like, and

180:13

that's been floating us for a little

180:15

while, but people are going to run to

180:16

the end of those stocks or run to the

180:18

end of those pre-aggreements and then

180:19

things are going to slow down. I think

180:21

>> Jordan dropped a link in here. Is a

180:22

profitable.com?

180:24

>> Oh, yeah.

180:24

>> What is this?

180:25

>> This website's pretty cool.

180:27

>> No, everyone's broke. Sorry. What am I

180:29

looking at here?

180:30

tracking the spend and revenue

180:32

estimations

180:33

>> of Frontier AI companies July 2026.

180:37

>> That is a really fun line right there.

180:41

>> Yeah, it's pretty cool.

180:46

>> So, are we going to are we going to

180:47

watch a million dollars be spent on AI

180:50

right now?

180:51

>> Technically, it's an estimation, but

180:52

yeah, we we are. So, it took you It took

180:56

you two chips, I think. Pretty sure it

180:59

was two chips to spend a million dollars

181:01

on AI.

181:02

>> I'm still spending, baby.

181:03

>> Yeah.

181:04

>> Um, okay. What else am I looking at

181:05

here?

181:07

>> Total industry revenue 769 billion,

181:09

which is a lot of money.

181:11

>> Yeah.

181:12

>> Unfortunately, it's not as much as total

181:15

industry.

181:16

>> The other fun part of that is as you

181:17

scroll down, you'll see the the red and

181:19

and green bars, and you'll also notice

181:21

when it starts to flip. Oh, so the big

181:25

investors

181:28

are not seeing the returns on their

181:30

spend.

181:30

>> Amazon being so high up on spend is was

181:33

a little surprising to me when I looked

181:34

at this. To be honest, I'm surprised

181:36

that Amazon is more spend than

181:37

Microsoft.

181:39

>> I hate that a company that spent a

181:41

billion dollars on AI,

181:42

>> you can barely even see it.

181:43

>> Doesn't even register.

181:46

Meanwhile, the shovel vendor.

181:48

>> Yeah. And it's interesting as well that

181:50

like

181:50

>> all the shovel vendors, that's where

181:51

they all everyone it's all about the

181:53

shovels.

181:54

>> Honestly, they should really try to get

181:55

SKH High and Samsung and stuff like that

181:57

in here. Um, but yeah, it's mostly

182:01

Nvidia. Like when you look at it, even

182:03

Micron is like actually way lower than I

182:05

expected. Um, like like be more to the

182:08

right and then scroll up and you'll see

182:10

another column there.

182:11

>> Oh yeah. Total loss.

182:13

>> Yeah.

182:14

>> Wow. So like Amazon's down $39

182:18

billion, but then when you scroll down

182:21

and look at the green ones, they're not

182:23

that high. Except for Nvidia,

182:25

>> these are unfathomably.

182:27

>> Like obviously 8 to9 billion in in

182:29

profit is incredible. But then you look

182:32

at 288 and it's like whoa.

182:37

>> Earned since page load. Hold on a

182:39

second.

182:42

All right.

182:45

That's crazy. This is crazy, too.

182:46

Disclaimers. The AI economy is circular.

182:49

Google funds Anthropic. Anthropic runs

182:51

on Google Cloud. Amazon funds anthropic.

182:54

Microsoft co-invests with OpenAI. This

182:56

means aggregate industry figures double

182:58

count some revenue flows. This site is

183:00

one person's best effort on an honest

183:02

picture, not a financial audit. If you

183:03

have better sources, please reach out. I

183:05

want to improve this site as much as

183:06

possible every day. This is such a cute

183:08

little project.

183:09

>> No, it's awesome. And that's that's the

183:11

reason why I gave the caveat at the

183:12

beginning of like it's an estimate or

183:13

whatever is they're doing the best they

183:15

can, but it's you can look into their

183:17

sources and like

183:19

>> it feels like they're doing the best

183:20

they can. Like it's uh this person does

183:22

seem to be actually trying, which is

183:23

cool. It's a cool site.

183:26

>> Want to pick one?

183:28

>> Sure.

183:30

What do we got here?

183:36

>> Pick your poison.

183:38

>> Yeah. Uh, it appears Reddit is forcing

183:40

mandatory account loginins to access its

183:42

desktop site. Uh, the popup

183:45

>> gives [screaming]

183:47

gives users only two options. Get

183:49

started or I already have an account.

183:51

There's no obvious way to dismiss the

183:53

popup and keep browsing. The change

183:55

follows Reddit's plan to require login

183:57

on old Reddit to curb scraping and bot

183:59

traffic, but the restriction may be

184:01

expanding to new Reddit as well. Before

184:03

we get into discussion questions, this

184:05

feels like the opposite side of the coin

184:08

or the other end of the spectrum or

184:09

something from a bunch of companies

184:12

doing massive layoffs and then saying

184:14

that it's because they're replacing the

184:15

people with AI and then just not really

184:17

doing that or then hiring more people to

184:20

fill those roles, but just not as many

184:22

people as they did before or just, you

184:25

know, different people or whatever where

184:26

they just as the company clearly just

184:28

wanted to do this layoff anyways, but

184:30

they're calling it AI stuff. So probably

184:32

their stock doesn't get tanked. Um this

184:34

feels like the same but opposite end of

184:36

the thing where they're like, "Oh, we

184:37

don't want it to get scraped, so we're

184:38

going to require accounts." They

184:40

probably really just wanted to

184:43

>> acquire accounts.

184:44

>> Yeah,

184:44

>> that's probably what they really wanted,

184:46

but they can blame it on some AI thing

184:48

and then everyone Well, not everyone,

184:49

but people will turn a blind eye.

184:51

>> I don't think this is going to stop AIS

184:53

from scraping it.

184:54

>> No,

184:54

>> of course not.

184:55

>> They just make an account.

184:56

>> Yeah,

184:57

>> you can't.

184:57

>> They'll just make infinite accounts.

184:59

There's agents right now that can make

185:00

accounts for this type of stuff. You're

185:01

not getting anything.

185:02

>> There's probably agents making accounts

185:04

right now

185:05

>> probably

185:06

>> like on mass.

185:07

>> Yeah.

185:07

>> So that they can build up history on the

185:09

account so that they can ultimately be

185:10

be sold for fake engagement. Like it's

185:14

uh

185:15

>> Yeah. This is clearly just

185:18

>> Reddit andying

185:19

taking yet another step towards being

185:21

generally less useful. I think I think

185:23

the best we can hope for is that this is

185:27

yet another stop on the long march

185:29

towards Reddit ultimately being replaced

185:31

by something else.

185:32

>> That's another thing I've been using a

185:34

lot less of lately is Reddit. And I

185:36

didn't use it much before and I use it a

185:39

lot less now, which is basically never.

185:42

Um I'll get linked things off of like

185:45

whatever. And I'll look at it and then

185:46

usually I go away afterwards. I think

185:48

I've told you that the best thing Reddit

185:49

ever did for me was um eliminating r/all

185:54

from new Reddit.

185:55

>> It's great. I use it so much less now.

185:57

>> Yeah,

185:57

>> because the only I think I've showed you

185:59

this before, too. The only way that I

186:01

can interact with Reddit is um through

186:06

this horrible horrible

186:09

like old Reddit interface on mobile,

186:11

which is just is so much work that I

186:14

just don't use it very much.

186:16

>> Yeah. Perfect.

186:16

>> Yep. See, that's actually great. I

186:18

agree.

186:19

>> That's great. There's no infinite

186:20

scrolling.

186:20

>> Nice.

186:21

>> It's like I can barely tell what any of

186:23

the thumbnails are.

186:24

>> The next button is not infinite

186:25

scrolling. I think that is actually like

186:28

it is a I it might not sound important.

186:30

It's a very important distinction.

186:31

>> It actually is. I never go to the third

186:33

page.

186:33

>> Yeah, exactly.

186:34

>> There's above the fold, below the fold,

186:37

and an infinite void of nothing that

186:39

matters.

186:39

>> Yep.

186:40

>> Yep. 100%.

186:41

>> Yep.

186:41

>> You're so right. Razer has been caught

186:44

red-handed telling the truth. Razer

186:47

touted their new frame sync technology

186:49

with the release of the Viper V4 Pro

186:52

earlier this year. They promised that it

186:54

synchronizes the mouse's sensor data

186:56

reporting directly with the computer's

186:58

USB polling cycle to minimize input

187:01

latency and improve tracking stability.

187:04

It sounded kind of hard to believe, but

187:06

Twitter user Pekno

187:09

has now verified I'm going to go with PO

187:12

has now verified the veracity of Razer's

187:14

claims using a homemade testing rig and

187:16

an oscilloscope.

187:17

Very cool. You guys might want to go

187:21

check this out. They are synchronized

187:24

apparently.

187:27

This is such a neat test setup. I

187:30

freaking love it. Yep, they're in sync.

187:32

Cool.

187:34

Good work, piano.

187:36

>> Yeah.

187:37

>> Oh, piano.

187:38

[snorts]

187:40

[laughter]

187:40

>> I didn't get that either.

187:45

That's pretty good. [laughter]

187:50

[gasps] Dang.

187:51

>> All right, [laughter] it's time for

187:52

After Dark. Dan, hit me.

187:54

>> I needed some more warning than that,

187:56

[clears throat] but uh sure.

187:59

>> He's gone. After dark banner to after

188:01

dark can even unlock my phone.

188:05

>> Boop

188:06

boop.

188:07

>> It's time. More like Luke after go to

188:09

bed.

188:10

>> I'm tired.

188:10

>> Tired.

188:11

>> It's been a heck of a week.

188:12

>> Tired.

188:13

>> I made a chicken coupoop.

188:15

>> I'm excited for the weekend so I can

188:17

finish the the work I was doing during

188:19

the week. [laughter]

188:20

>> Oh, that's my favorite thing to do. I'm

188:23

always so excited. Uh, loved the first

188:26

two float plane life skills videos. Any

188:29

ideas for what the next one will be?

188:31

>> It'll be in a year.

188:32

>> Nope. It's uh it's Sammy's series, so

188:36

whatever Sammy says is is what we're

188:38

going to do. I enjoyed teaching the

188:39

swimming lessons. Um, what are some

188:42

other what are some other like basic

188:44

life skills? We did riding a bike and we

188:46

did swimming so far.

188:47

>> Changing [snorts] your oil. Ooh.

188:51

How to change

188:52

>> basic car maintenance. Like genuinely

188:54

basic car maintenance would be pretty

188:56

good. Oil and air filter

188:58

that you have to do every single time.

189:00

>> A cabin filter.

189:01

>> You got to know how to do that.

189:03

>> Those would all be that would actually

189:04

genuinely be pretty sweet.

189:06

>> How to how to do a basic

189:07

>> be soldering. I did I saw a suggestion

189:10

on I think it was the um the pool one.

189:14

Um

189:15

how to do like like wall hole patches.

189:20

>> That would be awesome.

189:21

>> How to hang a picture. What is the stud

189:23

versus like just putting it in drywall

189:26

would be quite useful.

189:27

>> Lionus the collective dad of flow plane

189:29

is what this is starting to now sound

189:31

like.

189:32

>> I mean there's a there's a YouTuber I

189:33

think he's called like

189:35

>> can't remember his name.

189:36

>> Yep. I know who you're talking about

189:37

though. Is he is his whole ship that

189:39

he's kind of like your dad just teaching

189:41

you how to do

189:42

>> ask your dad but it's him and he teaches

189:43

you how to do it.

189:44

>> That's pretty cool.

189:45

>> Yeah.

189:48

>> Uh

189:48

>> Kata says how to shave. Okay. Fun fact.

189:51

Uh when I reached adolescence I was not

189:54

living with my biological father and it

189:56

was complicated and so I never had

189:59

anyone teach me how to shave. I just

190:02

kind of made it up as I went. Dad, how

190:04

do I Okay, that's that's a really cool

190:06

name for a channel. Change a tire,

190:08

shave, tie a tie, jump a car. I'm proud

190:10

of you. You got this. [laughter]

190:12

>> It's lovely. It's so nice.

190:15

>> Peanut butter cookies. Install a

190:16

thermostat.

190:18

>> Wow. He really relies on like evergreen

190:20

kind of algorithmic.

190:22

>> Dad's easy pumpkin bread.

190:23

>> Well, the whole channel built on

190:25

Evergreen.

190:27

>> Yeah.

190:27

>> The whole concept.

190:28

>> Yeah.

190:29

>> Which is kind of sick,

190:30

>> man. Like none of these are getting

190:32

Mondo views anymore, though. Or is

190:35

>> is it just that

190:36

>> popular?

190:36

>> Yeah. Where are Where are the bangers?

190:40

>> It might be because it's evergreen

190:42

stuff. He's already done it. He did tie

190:43

a tie. He did shaving. He did unclog a

190:45

bathtub drain.

190:46

>> Right. The lowhanging fruit was done at

190:48

the beginning.

190:49

>> Yeah.

190:51

Jump start a car, put up a shelf, change

190:53

a tire, fix a running toilet. Yeah. So,

190:55

he did the evergreen stuff right away

190:58

>> and then ran out of the the easier

191:01

topics. He's still making content and

191:03

the evergreen stuff probably still gets

191:05

views. How to use a can opener. Okay,

191:08

listen. Gen Z. Really?

191:11

>> Cans don't come with instructions. What

191:13

am I supposed to do?

191:16

[sighs]

191:16

>> What if you have one of the side ones

191:18

versus like the top one?

191:19

>> Hey, man. I mean, it got uh it got

191:22

300,000.

191:22

>> Yes, I know. That's why I'm upset.

191:24

>> Yeah, not at him.

191:26

>> That's why this channel exists because

191:28

some people don't know.

191:28

>> How your money? Honestly, this one maybe

191:31

should have gotten more views if it's if

191:33

it's good. Uh, the vehicle's cabin air

191:36

filter. There you go.

191:37

>> Nice. Solid.

191:39

>> How to build a bench.

191:40

>> There's the filter replacement for your

191:42

uh refri your fridge water filter. Okay,

191:45

that's a um

191:49

that's a that's a shameful secret. I

191:52

have never replaced a fridge water

191:54

filter.

191:58

>> I've never had water in a fridge.

191:59

>> I just don't use it.

192:01

>> Oh. I it just it gets kind it's kind of

192:03

nasty tasting when you get a new fridge

192:05

because of all the plastic crap and then

192:07

I don't like using it and then the

192:10

filter gets bad and then I don't like

192:12

using it.

192:13

>> We are

192:14

>> and so I just don't use it.

192:15

>> Currently the Brida enjoyers.

192:18

>> Oh dude, Brida is goated

192:22

tap.

192:26

Damn it. Our place our place has haunted

192:29

pipes. So we we like genuinely can't

192:31

really do tap cuz sometimes it'll just

192:33

be hot no matter what you do.

192:35

>> Nice.

192:36

>> That there there is genuinely you can

192:38

leave it on one side for 5 minutes, it's

192:40

still hot. You turn that off, you turn

192:41

the other side on, 5 minutes, still hot.

192:43

>> I actually have a similar issue,

192:45

>> believe it or not. Not not hot, but like

192:47

tepid.

192:49

>> Like my cold water will just not go

192:51

cold.

192:51

>> Not be cold.

192:52

>> It'll be the winter.

192:53

>> That is almost all the time for us. And

192:56

then sometimes it'll be like genuinely

192:58

like ow hot to the touch and there's

193:00

nothing you can do about it.

193:01

>> I've also I've also had the inverse, but

193:03

that's much rarer where there just is no

193:06

such thing as hot water

193:08

>> no matter what you do. I I've talked to

193:10

my dad about it plumber and he was like

193:12

a little bit confused. But then when we

193:14

were doing the renovation, he found what

193:16

he thinks is likely at least part of the

193:17

culprit, which is that there's like no

193:19

insulation between the pipes

193:21

>> solid.

193:22

>> And that probably just goes through the

193:23

whole building. So the pipes are

193:25

influencing each other's temperature too

193:28

much. So the temperature of our faucets

193:30

might be getting influenced by

193:32

>> someone else running a bath,

193:33

>> whatever is happening elsewhere in the

193:35

building. Um,

193:37

>> yeah, very cool. Very, very awesome.

193:40

There's a lot of really bad things done

193:41

in the construction of our building, but

193:44

>> it is what it is. Hey Dan, Linus and

193:47

Luke, are there any more cat or cat

193:49

themed products in the plans? My cats

193:52

love the retro monitor and the cat desk

193:54

pet bed.

193:55

>> I think we're doing a little cute little

193:57

cat. What are they called? Those little

193:59

things that hang on the top of your

194:00

monitor. Anyone know what they're

194:02

called? A hipper? Is it called a hipper?

194:05

>> I have not a single clue.

194:06

>> I don't know. Gen Z's know.

194:07

>> I don't think I'm the right target

194:08

audience.

194:09

>> You're really not.

194:10

>> You would have to be a person who buys a

194:12

thing.

194:12

>> Does it Does it like block some of the

194:14

monitor?

194:15

>> Are they called hippers?

194:17

Um,

194:19

hold on. What's that? What is it? What?

194:20

Imagine having bezels thick enough to

194:22

hold something up.

194:24

>> Minifigures. Minifigures. Hippers. Is

194:27

this a thing? What am I looking at here?

194:30

Okay, there are bums on my screen now.

194:32

So, that's something.

194:35

Um, yeah. Yeah. So, like we there'll be

194:39

a little cat that'll hang on the back of

194:40

your

194:41

>> Oh, but there's the there are these

194:42

little guys.

194:43

>> Yeah, but not that. Like

194:44

>> they've No, these little guy those

194:46

little guys infested the the

194:48

infrastructure office. Oh, really?

194:50

>> Oh, yeah. They're everywhere.

194:52

>> Oh, yeah. Okay.

194:52

>> Yeah. Can't get rid of them.

194:54

>> So, I think we're doing one of those.

194:56

>> Um, and then Oh,

194:59

wait. Did we No. Did we Did we launch

195:01

the Great Indoors Collection? Is that a

195:03

thing on LT Store? Did I just leak a

195:05

thing?

195:06

>> I think you did.

195:07

>> Oh, okay.

195:09

>> Pretty sure you did.

195:10

>> Well, um, we're working on the Great

195:13

Indoors Collection. Tony's leaking it

195:15

more now.

195:16

>> Which is a which is a cute uh we're

195:18

going to have a hat that has like a cute

195:20

little cat that's like roasting a

195:23

marshmallow open over a fire, but I

195:25

think he's like sitting on a monitor or

195:27

something like that. And then we're

195:29

going to have a um something. We're

195:32

going to have a shirt and it's like very

195:34

indoor coated but like outdoor themed

195:37

kind of thing. And then uh I guess I'll

195:40

also leak that we're finally going to do

195:42

a clear plastic water bottle. And we are

195:45

we are partnering with the one the only

195:50

uh I forget their name right now, but

195:52

you know the one

195:54

>> Nene.

195:55

>> Yeah.

195:55

>> Okay.

195:56

>> Yeah, that one.

195:56

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

195:57

>> The I knew the answer. I was like,

195:58

"Wait,

196:00

>> I was surprised you forgot the name." So

196:01

I was like, "Is it something that I

196:02

didn't think it was?"

196:03

>> That special plastic thing.

196:04

>> Yeah. So we're going to have a we're

196:05

going to have a great indoors nail gene

196:07

bottle.

196:07

>> Yeah. So that'll be pretty cool.

196:09

>> Yeah, that's awesome.

196:10

>> Give me

196:10

>> Yeah.

196:10

>> Yeah, me too.

196:11

>> Yeah, I would like clear would be pretty

196:13

sweet.

196:14

>> Yeah, it's Well, it's more like a dark

196:15

green

196:16

>> to go with the graphics.

196:17

>> Translucent,

196:18

>> but Yeah.

196:18

>> Yeah, sure.

196:19

>> But yeah, you can see the water.

196:20

>> Yeah. Yeah.

196:21

>> Yeah. Yeah. Turns out

196:22

>> also want these cuz I'm assuming this is

196:24

going to do a lot better at the like

196:26

thermo stuff, but having a clear one

196:28

would be sweet.

196:29

>> Turns out Negene is actually super easy

196:31

to work with. So, we just like didn't do

196:33

it because we just didn't do it for many

196:35

years, but now we're going to do it. So

196:37

yeah, we just like reached out to them.

196:38

They were like, "Yep, basically you just

196:40

like have to put our brand here and then

196:42

everything else is kind of up to you. Uh

196:44

do you want to do uh this style of

196:47

printing or do you want to do this style

196:48

of printing?" And we just like make it

196:50

and deal with everything and we're like,

196:51

"Oh, wow." So that's why everyone does

196:53

this. [laughter] Yeah, it's great.

196:58

>> Yeah.

197:01

>> Okay.

197:01

>> I don't remember the question, but

197:02

hopefully that answered it.

197:03

>> Yeah.

197:04

>> Yes, I think that's okay. Uh, hey LLD.

197:08

Just restocking on some of the bits I

197:10

have lost since I got my screwdriver in

197:12

batch 4.

197:13

>> Oo, long time ago.

197:15

>> Lionus's hot takes are infamous. But

197:18

what's one prediction you're glad you

197:20

got wrong?

197:20

>> Um,

197:25

>> I don't know, man. It's so hard to

197:26

remember everything I've ever been wrong

197:28

about. I I actually really like these

197:30

questions, but I do hope that people

197:33

understand how much stuff is said

197:35

publicly by especially him. I think mine

197:38

is an incredible amount and he is

197:40

multiple times more than me. So like my

197:43

god, how do you remember all that stuff?

197:44

>> Were we talking a video earlier that was

197:46

done 12 years ago?

197:48

>> Yeah. Been kind of doing this for a long

197:50

time. [laughter]

197:51

>> You can't like ask these questions.

197:53

>> I was talking to my kids about it. I was

197:54

like, "Yeah, we've cuz they they asked

197:56

like why I don't do a video about this

197:57

or a video about that." And they were

197:58

like, "Well, cuz I did that one and I

198:00

did that one, too." And they obviously

198:02

wouldn't get the reference of Simpsons

198:04

did it because um they're not allowed

198:06

[snorts] to watch South Park yet. Uh

198:08

well, my younger ones aren't, and that's

198:10

who I was talking to. And um and I was

198:13

just like, "Yeah, it's um we we Sorry,

198:16

kids. the reason that these ideas are

198:18

really good. Thank you for your

198:19

wonderful ideas, video pitch ideas. But

198:22

um we can talk about something else

198:24

because realistically if you think of

198:26

something, we've probably already done a

198:27

video about it. Uh but that doesn't mean

198:30

that I necessarily remembered. I mean,

198:31

Luke and I have talked on the show about

198:32

watching old videos and like laughing at

198:35

them as though we are consuming the

198:37

content fresh. I mean, Luke had to watch

198:39

his video on DirectX12 and Vulcan and

198:42

SLI in order to learn about what

198:45

happened with all of that because he

198:46

couldn't remember a single damn thing.

198:48

>> There will be especially uh ones that I

198:50

didn't write. So, there will be like old

198:53

techies.

198:54

I forgot that I did a bunch of techies

198:57

back in the day, like a lot actually.

199:00

And

199:01

I'll I'll see one of them come up and

199:03

I'll see the thumbnail and I'll be like,

199:05

"What?"

199:07

And then I'll watch the whole video and

199:09

have like in that moment learned

199:11

everything I just said because I

199:13

remembered not a single word just

199:15

[laughter] like oh my god I because I

199:18

mean realistically that was half an hour

199:20

of my life 12 years ago or something

199:23

like of course I don't remember that but

199:25

like

199:26

>> now what do you remember from 12 years

199:28

ago?

199:28

>> Yeah. Um

199:30

>> at your job a random [laughter] a random

199:33

30 minutes of something that you do

199:34

every single day. Yeah. And then like

199:37

apparently it's being shown in like a

199:39

class or something and I'm just like

199:41

what the heck. I mean that that is sweet

199:42

but I don't remember it at all. Um

199:47

yeah, I'm trying to think prediction

199:49

we're happy didn't happen. Um I at one

199:53

point in time I wonder if I Yeah, it's

199:55

wondering if we made a prediction or

199:57

not.

199:58

>> There was questions.

199:59

>> Okay, I have one.

200:01

>> Okay,

200:02

>> I'm ready. Yeah,

200:04

>> I predicted that moving the W show

200:06

podcast to its own channel where we only

200:10

did the streams and nothing else would

200:12

be disastrous for its growth and would

200:14

take a long time to like recover from.

200:17

>> Yeah,

200:20

live viewers are super strong.

200:23

That's wildly good for us lately.

200:26

>> That's wildly good for us for years.

200:29

>> Years. Yeah. I don't know what the

200:32

is happening right now. [laughter]

200:34

It's

200:34

>> I don't think the WAN show suddenly got

200:36

more interesting. No offense to us.

200:38

>> You're wonderful.

200:40

>> It's stabilized.

200:40

>> You're wonderful.

200:42

>> It's not a spike. It's stabilized now at

200:44

155.

200:45

>> This is insane.

200:47

>> Where did all you guys come from?

200:48

>> Stop it.

200:50

>> I

200:50

>> stop it now.

200:51

>> I have no explanation for that. That's a

200:52

good one though.

200:53

>> Yeah, I got that. So,

200:54

>> that's a really good one. Like we

200:55

agonized over the decision of like how

200:58

to do this whole the WAN show is 50/50

201:00

owned by me and Luke thing, you know, do

201:02

we just leave it on the LD channel? Do

201:04

we have Dan create a report to split the

201:07

AdSense in the future whenever if that's

201:09

necessary? Do we put the clips and the

201:11

thing on the same channel? Do we do

201:12

this? Do we do that? How are we going to

201:13

do this to do it in a way that's like,

201:15

you know, that that means that by the

201:17

time Luke owns 50% of something, it

201:19

isn'ting worthless? [laughter]

201:22

and and we really didn't want to put it

201:25

on its own channel because in a lot of

201:27

ways that is just a chance of death. But

201:29

the community was like, "Bruh, I, you

201:33

know, I'm signing up for a live stream.

201:35

I don't want to watch the live stream."

201:36

And then get spammed with clips of the

201:38

live stream that I just watched for a

201:39

super long time. Uh, fair enough. Uh, so

201:42

we we split it off. And honestly, in the

201:45

first couple weeks, it was like,

201:48

>> well,

201:48

>> guess it's [laughter] over.

201:52

I guess we'll just keep doing it, but

201:54

it's like kind of [laughter] over. And

201:56

then, yeah, apparently it's not. So,

201:58

thank you very much. I appreciate that.

201:59

>> Yeah, we appreciate all of you.

202:02

[laughter]

202:03

>> I can't super Maybe chat can. I can't

202:05

super think of a prediction right now.

202:07

Like are more people watching on Twitch

202:09

too or is this just that YouTube

202:12

algorithm has finally figured out

202:16

>> what what show be and how it serve when

202:19

show

202:21

>> uh normal normal on Twitch.

202:23

>> Yeah,

202:24

>> at least within a

202:24

>> That's interesting, dude. Float plates

202:26

numbers.

202:26

>> How are there a thousand people watching

202:29

this on Twitch?

202:30

>> It's around 2,000 every week.

202:32

>> That's just like

202:35

gross.

202:37

Look at this gross website.

202:39

[clears throat]

202:40

It's It's just disgusting. And now I'm

202:43

looking at it twice cuz it's here and

202:46

also here.

202:47

>> The sad part is you're also making all

202:48

the YouTube people look at Twitch now.

202:50

>> Oh, sorry.

202:51

>> Yeah,

202:52

>> I'll do better.

202:53

>> Yeah,

202:53

>> man. I have not logged into the Twitch

202:56

dashboard in I think quite literally

202:59

years.

203:02

I don't miss it at all. I remember back

203:05

when I thought Twitch was cool, um

203:07

during the first LTX

203:09

>> Yeah.

203:09

>> at the Langley Events Center,

203:12

>> uh we couldn't get our stream key for

203:14

some reason

203:14

>> and I had to call that that guy that I

203:17

used to know at Twitch and he was out on

203:19

a boat. Um and he was like, "I literally

203:22

can't help you right now. I'm out on a

203:24

boat on the ocean." Uh but he's like,

203:26

"But I'll get someone who can help you."

203:27

and I got a random call from a random

203:29

number, which I don't normally answer,

203:30

but I picked it up and they were like,

203:31

"Um, I don't know like what you did, but

203:34

I'm here to give you a stream key."

203:36

[laughter]

203:38

And that was like one of the coolest

203:39

calls I've ever had.

203:43

>> That was awesome.

203:43

>> Hello, this is Twitch. [laughter] Please

203:46

stream to this address. Do you have a

203:49

pen and paper?

203:50

>> Yeah.

203:51

>> Yes. Modern video technology.

203:52

>> Sometimes it's pretty good to be us.

203:55

>> Yeah.

203:55

>> Every once in a while I'll have There

203:57

was also a lot of the like original, not

203:59

not necessarily original, but a lot of

204:01

the pre-Amazon

204:02

>> OG,

204:03

>> they were cool.

204:04

>> Yeah,

204:05

>> Twitch used to be really cool. I'm not

204:06

super into Twitch anymore, but it used

204:08

to be really cool.

204:12

>> All right, Dan, hit us.

204:13

>> Water.

204:16

>> Big jug. Okay, let's see. Luke, you

204:19

recently talked about retiring. Do you

204:21

think when Lionus takes a step back

204:24

that'll be a signal for you? Also

204:26

replacing my OG backup uh backpack. No,

204:29

backup cuz that'll be my diaper bag.

204:33

Back backpack.

204:34

>> Backpack.

204:35

>> Backpack. You meant to say backpack.

204:37

>> Oh, your OG. That is an amazing use for

204:40

the OG backpack.

204:42

It would be a great diaper bag. I've

204:44

never really thought of that.

204:45

>> The OG backpack.

204:46

>> Yeah. So, he's getting a commuter for

204:48

himself to to daily cuz the OG is going

204:50

to be his diaper bag now.

204:52

>> Interesting. Okay. Yeah, it would be a

204:55

sick diaper bag because you got like

204:58

kind of your like stash thing. Instead

204:59

of using it as a water bottle thing, you

205:01

could put like your just to keep it

205:02

separate and easy to access. You put

205:03

like your wet wipes in there and then in

205:05

the front you can put any of the like

205:07

little like bits and pieces and in and

205:09

bits and bobbins that you need and then

205:11

you just got like the big container of

205:13

holding that you can put all that crap

205:14

in. If you had like a little like

205:16

changing mat that would slip perfectly

205:18

into the laptop sleeve like I never

205:20

thought of that. All right, cool. Anywh

205:22

who carry on. Yeah, I don't think so.

205:26

So, the question was basically, do you

205:28

think when Lionus takes a step back

205:29

that'll be a signal for you? It kind of

205:31

depends when that happens, I guess.

205:34

>> But I'm older than him, so like

205:35

realistically I will retire before him

205:38

and so what his life ends because I

205:39

retire.

205:40

>> Yeah. No, not really. But it also it

205:43

also depends like how late you decide to

205:45

retire though.

205:47

>> Um, it also depends what your retirement

205:49

actually looks like,

205:50

>> right? because we've talked about like

205:52

one of the reasons that WAN show is now

205:56

going to be a separate entity is if one

206:01

of us departs Linus Media Group or

206:03

retires or does whatever it's like a

206:07

it's like a it's like a pact. It's like

206:09

a it's like a a formalization of okay

206:11

but the WAN show lives on and there can

206:14

never be any reason that the WAN show

206:17

doesn't live on especially if people

206:18

actually watch it which they do. That

206:20

helps so much. You don't understand.

206:22

[laughter]

206:23

>> W show forever. Wan show. A thousand

206:25

years. A thousand years. WAN show.

206:28

>> That was great. Thank you.

206:29

>> Yeah, that was great. Appreciate you

206:30

all. Um, so so with that in mind, like

206:36

you know what what what does retirement

206:38

actually look like?

206:39

>> Does retirement do mean doing a podcast

206:41

every week?

206:42

>> I would think so.

206:43

>> Maybe.

206:44

>> Like I I think I could

206:45

>> I don't think my retirement is going to

206:47

be like super real.

206:48

>> Yeah. I I I could see myself having a

206:51

version of retirement.

206:52

>> Yeah.

206:53

>> I'm not saying, oh, I'm gonna got a nose

206:56

to the grindstoneone the rest of my

206:57

life, but like

206:58

>> but there's no way that

207:00

>> I'm going to want to do something. I

207:03

don't think

207:03

>> I don't know what the heck we talk about

207:05

in 50 years, but we'll find something.

207:07

Like I mean realistically I'm I'm I'm

207:10

well ahead of retirement age and I've

207:12

already like joked about buying myself

207:15

my retirement present which funnily

207:17

enough is just another job. [laughter]

207:21

>> Yeah.

207:22

>> Like Smash Champs is the thing that I'll

207:24

joke to people that I bought myself.

207:25

It's my retirement gift to myself as a

207:27

badminton club. But like

207:29

>> it's literally a functioning business.

207:31

>> I'm always going to want to do

207:32

something. Um, and I I really really

207:35

really like

207:38

uh progressing things. Is that a way to

207:41

say it?

207:41

>> I think so. Yeah.

207:42

>> Improving things.

207:44

>> Um, so I'll I'll I'll probably find a

207:47

way to get myself involved with

207:48

something here or there. Um, and that

207:51

does not necessarily hinge on Lannis

207:54

retiring or not. And again, the what

207:56

does retirement mean is so I could see a

207:59

version of retirement for you where you

208:00

still make tech videos. Oh, I could see

208:03

that 100%.

208:05

>> So, like I [sighs]

208:07

>> I this it's it's you actually asked a

208:10

very nuanced and interesting question.

208:12

[laughter]

208:12

>> I I love the way Jenna Marbles did it

208:16

where she just basically went

208:17

>> vanished.

208:18

>> I am of a different era.

208:21

You know what? Thanks for everything.

208:23

Goodbye. I loved that. I thought it was

208:26

so cool. I thought it was

208:27

>> crazy how effective it was.

208:28

>> So classy.

208:29

>> Yeah. Um, I love the way PewDiePie did

208:32

it. I'm retired, by the way. it. I

208:34

just still make videos. Um, I'm not

208:37

retired at all.

208:38

>> They're just really now only the things

208:41

that I want to make and they're going to

208:43

be really random.

208:44

>> Yeah. Um, I love that, too. Um, I I love

208:49

what Matt Pat's done where he's just

208:51

like, "Well, I sold theorist. I no

208:53

longer uh make theories,

208:56

but [snorts] that's just a theory." Um

208:59

actually I you know I work on like he's

209:01

doing some advocacy in Washington around

209:05

like uh streaming and like uh internet

209:08

video legislation and stuff like dude

209:12

actually they're they're they're both

209:14

still doing stuff Steph and Matt. Um

209:19

trying to think of like prominent other

209:21

retired people. I mean, Ray William

209:22

Johnson

209:24

um seems happily retired uploading

209:26

copious numbers of YouTube shorts.

209:30

>> Is he really? I mean, that makes sense.

209:32

>> Yeah, he he

209:33

>> of anyone from that era, that makes the

209:35

most sense for him to be doing shorts.

209:37

>> He became an absolute nobody and then

209:41

had a huge resurgence in shorts. Okay,

209:44

what is this? Goodbye.

209:46

>> Did you Did I just get click baited by

209:48

Ray William Johnson?

209:49

>> There we go.

209:49

>> What even just happened there? What am

209:51

I? What am What is happening? How do I I

209:55

hate the interface for this damn thing?

209:59

Okay. When is this from? Okay. Yeah,

210:01

this is from the 12th of June. He's

210:02

still very much uploading shorts. So,

210:05

there you go. Retired. I don't know.

210:08

Does a Does a content creator ever

210:10

retire? Really? I mean, Too Mad retired.

210:17

Rest in peace, Tumad.

210:21

But beyond that, like

210:25

[laughter]

210:25

what do you ding for? What does that

210:28

even mean?

210:31

>> All right. Well, it's been a good show.

210:32

Um, thanks everyone for your support.

210:36

>> Oh my goodness.

210:38

[laughter]

210:43

Oh my goodness.

210:44

>> Outdoor Boys. Yeah. I mean, but he's

210:46

like he Okay, so Outdoor Boys, he was a

210:49

lawyer and then he was an outdoor

210:50

YouTuber and maybe still a lawyer. I

210:51

don't know. And then now his his son is

210:54

making content and he shows up on his

210:56

son's channels sometimes. Maybe all the

210:58

time, maybe sometimes. I'm not sure.

211:01

Um Tom Scott sort of retired and then

211:04

just came right on back.

211:07

>> Yeah. Yeah, I ran into him. I've I've

211:09

run into him at two industry events in

211:11

the last like few months. Um, what

211:14

what's it what kind of what kind of

211:15

content is he doing in his retirement?

211:17

>> I think it feels pretty similar to what

211:18

he used to do.

211:20

>> He's just he doesn't care about the

211:22

performance.

211:22

>> Look at this anymore.

211:23

>> Is that is this is this AI?

211:26

>> Oh, no. It's just a still from a video.

211:28

Okay.

211:29

the Yeah, I think that's very

211:31

>> across Europe because we were talking to

211:33

him at at Open Sauce and he's like, I'm

211:36

really concerned about the performance

211:38

of the next couple shirt all the time

211:40

>> and he's like, oh yeah,

211:42

>> how about that? He goes, why don't we

211:44

notice that

211:45

>> it's Homer Simpson style? He he he's

211:47

wearing the same

211:49

>> Yeah,

211:49

>> even the underlay. He sits at the same

211:51

table and it looks like a dining room

211:54

table and he does see today roll talking

211:57

about the video he's doing and then he

211:59

goes to a place across Europe somewhere

212:03

looks at a thing. The videos are like

212:05

weird and strange like uh his one about

212:08

the bridge there um is like

212:13

no one would make that video in their

212:14

right mind apart from Tom Scott,

212:16

>> right? But that's kind of the mark of a

212:18

Tom Scott video.

212:19

>> That's awesome. Yeah, absolutely. But

212:21

even he's like a little concerned about

212:22

the performance of them, but he cares

212:25

less now.

212:26

>> Every content creator is concerned about

212:28

the performance of their videos. So, I

212:30

don't want to make that sound like

212:31

that's a unique to Tom Scott thing right

212:33

now. Long form is

212:35

>> long form is hurting.

212:36

>> He's not really caring, if you know what

212:39

I mean. He's like, uh,

212:41

>> and he cares a lot about not attracting

212:44

an audience that he doesn't want and

212:45

yada yada yada, which is which is cool.

212:47

And that's something that you can do if

212:49

you retire as a content creator who

212:52

still makes content,

212:52

>> just makes cool stuff that he

212:54

>> just do it for you. Yeah.

212:55

>> So, homepage, add ad. This is a really

212:59

good ad, though. You should click it.

213:00

Uh, we do get a bit of VOD stuff, so

213:03

that's kind of cool. Ew,

213:06

>> gross.

213:06

>> Ew. YouTube play. Okay. 52 million

213:09

people have played this. 52 million

213:13

people have played Whole.io.

213:15

>> Whole.io I always such a questionable

213:18

name.

213:18

>> Voodoo HTML 5 games. It has a store. Ew.

213:24

>> Whole input output.

213:27

>> Folio.

213:28

>> Mhm. Drag to move

213:30

>> program.

213:34

So it's just this.

213:36

>> It's like this the snake game thing, but

213:39

now it's uh that whatever the rolly

213:43

thing is. What is that name? Katamari.

213:45

>> Katamari. It's a snake game, but

213:48

supposed to feel more like Katamari. I

213:50

guess you're not big enough to eat the

213:52

police car yet. Now you are.

213:53

>> That's a fun concept.

213:55

>> Well, yeah, but it's just it's

213:56

>> Wait, there's no gradient to your

213:57

growth. You just grow all at once.

214:01

>> I don't know. It's just stupid. I

214:04

>> eat a bunch of cars.

214:05

>> I want to eat these people.

214:06

>> Yeah.

214:08

>> So,

214:09

>> you just jump up. I hate that. Why does

214:13

that bother me so much? Why wouldn't you

214:14

just grow a little bit of uh

214:16

>> This is literally slop. Actual slop.

214:21

[sighs]

214:21

>> You know why, Luke?

214:22

>> Way to go, YouTube.

214:23

>> I do, but it's up. It's so lazy.

214:26

>> It's so Yeah.

214:31

God, I hate that so much.

214:35

[gasps]

214:36

Okay.

214:36

>> Hello, Luke.

214:37

>> Hello,

214:38

>> Dan. And men who can't keep cables or

214:40

large socks in stock. Linus. get

214:43

freaking roasted. [laughter]

214:47

>> I didn't know that was here.

214:48

>> Lus retired last name. Linus retired

214:50

from keeping things in stock. Okay.

214:52

>> So,

214:53

>> I don't think he ever had that job.

214:55

>> Yeah. I overclock all the things,

214:56

>> I think.

215:00

>> I never keep them in stock.

215:03

>> No, I [laughter] You broke the bell.

215:06

>> I threw the bell across the desk.

215:11

>> Oh my god. Uh, if you hike in the back

215:14

country at all, what tech do you use?

215:16

And uh, do you opt to leave it at home?

215:19

>> Well, you don't have your watch. Did you

215:22

lose it?

215:25

>> That face says yes. [laughter]

215:33

He predicted it like a month ago when he

215:35

got it. He's like, I'm going to lose

215:36

this. I have [laughter] no idea where it

215:38

is.

215:38

>> Why is your water bottle upside down?

215:40

What have you been doing over there? You

215:41

can see how long it would take for

215:42

people to notice.

215:43

>> You have an upside down water bottle as

215:45

I understand this.

215:46

>> Does it have water in it?

215:47

>> No, but why don't you tell me if you

215:49

need more liquid?

215:50

>> I don't need more water. But

215:51

>> you managed to keep long enough to get a

215:53

tan, which is actually sort of

215:55

impressive for you. And you're managing

215:57

to hold it exactly behind your water

215:59

bottle so no one can see it when I'm

216:00

talking about your watch tan, which is

216:02

also impressive for you.

216:03

>> Easier to see it there.

216:04

>> Yeah. Look at that. He got a watch tan

216:06

and now he has no watch.

216:08

>> Yeah.

216:09

>> Huh. Okay. I suspect it's still at home.

216:12

>> Oh, yeah.

216:12

>> The most common time that it will no

216:15

longer get back on is when I take a

216:16

shower,

216:17

>> right?

216:18

>> Because so it's it's probably right next

216:20

to the sink in the bathroom. But

216:23

honestly, if anything, the fact that I

216:25

didn't even notice until you pointed it

216:27

out uh is why I lose it so easily, but

216:30

also why it's been living so long.

216:32

>> I've been very happy with it. Actually,

216:34

>> I'm going to do it now.

216:35

>> What? I'm gonna buy a Casio calculator

216:37

watch because I don't actually care

216:41

about my smartwatch, so I should have

216:43

something cooler.

216:44

>> Nice.

216:47

>> Buy it later.

216:50

>> Oh, yeah.

216:53

>> Fine.

216:54

>> I will.

216:55

>> Good job.

216:56

>> Thank you. Or do it in incognito.

216:58

>> Dude, I actually

216:59

>> You can do whatever you want in

217:00

incognito.

217:01

>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. No one will know.

217:03

Well, Google will, but the stream won't.

217:06

>> All right, I'll do it later.

217:06

>> Unless he streams him doing that. Uh,

217:09

backcountry tech. What tech do you use?

217:11

Do you have to leave it at home? Uh, if

217:13

you leave it at home, you don't use it

217:14

when hiking in the back country. So,

217:16

that we're good there. Um,

217:19

>> I don't really back I mean I I think of

217:21

Okay, I'm Canadian, so I think of back

217:23

country as like

217:25

>> very back country,

217:26

>> the middle of nowhere.

217:27

>> What is your level of back country?

217:29

>> Like no internet.

217:30

>> Yeah.

217:31

>> Yeah. I'd never go there. there. I don't

217:32

want to go there. I like the internet.

217:34

[snorts] I'm an indoor boy.

217:38

Like to be clear, love me a good old

217:40

grouse grind, you know? Love that. Um I

217:43

mean I think I talked on W show last

217:45

week about getting lost in like the

217:47

woods behind that German hotel I was

217:50

staying at. Like I'm I'm down for like a

217:52

hike, but when I have no cell signal,

217:54

I'm like, well,

217:59

this is this is my compass. So,

218:02

>> our back country is terrifying.

218:04

>> Our back country is genuinely

218:05

terrifying.

218:05

>> Like there's there's bears there and

218:07

nothing. [laughter]

218:08

>> The like uh what did you say? What tech

218:10

do you use? The tech you need is like

218:12

bear spray.

218:14

>> Yeah.

218:14

>> And a satellite phone.

218:16

>> Yeah.

218:16

>> And like a gun.

218:17

>> Like Oh god.

218:18

>> Actually a couple guns. [laughter]

218:20

>> Probably guns that are not allowed to be

218:22

purchased. You have to like get them

218:24

from the north to be safe.

218:27

[laughter]

218:27

>> No, I mean there's there's Yeah. Did I

218:30

ever show the picture of the bear that

218:31

was in my yard on W show?

218:33

>> You can have a shotgun. Oh, you need

218:35

like one for each hand. [laughter]

218:39

Otherwise, you wouldn't look cool. I

218:40

mean, you could just 3D print the other

218:42

one.

218:44

>> Haha. Callax.

218:46

Yay.

218:46

>> I don't think I've ever actually shown

218:47

it on WAN. I don't know that I

218:49

necessarily should, but there's a

218:50

shotgun in Canada that you can buy that

218:53

uh has a folding stock. And I I I

218:57

remember figuring out exactly how it's

218:58

legal in Canada, and it blew my mind.

219:00

But it's small enough that you can you

219:02

can hipholster it.

219:03

>> Oh, that's kind of cool.

219:04

>> You could have you could have two

219:06

hipholstered shotguns.

219:07

>> That's crazy.

219:08

>> In Canada,

219:10

>> that's nice.

219:10

>> Legally,

219:12

>> that's crazy. Going to be hard to

219:14

conceal carry.

219:15

>> Yeah. You're just walking around like

219:17

you got broken.

219:18

>> It's not legal.

219:19

>> Same with heartbeats. [laughter]

219:22

>> Apparently lots of them cuz I'm dual

219:23

wielding shotguns for some reason.

219:26

>> It's always faster to switch to your

219:27

secondary than reloading.

219:28

>> They're going to gank me. We got

219:31

>> They're going to gank [laughter] me.

219:32

This pain. I need help. This bear is

219:35

going to gank me, bro. [laughter] Oh my

219:38

god. Someone's probably said that

219:40

>> the bear took mid.

219:44

>> What do I do? The Nexus is your car,

219:47

[laughter]

219:50

>> man. I keep feeding the bears with all

219:52

my friends going camping. [laughter]

219:56

>> Oh my god.

219:56

>> So, yeah, this is

219:57

>> Dude, bro, why are you ining? [laughter]

220:03

>> Yeah, we don't go outside.

220:05

>> Okay, Dan. Uh, I sent you a picture.

220:07

>> Okay.

220:08

>> Like, this is what shows up in my

220:10

suburban yard. I do not need to go into

220:13

the Canadian back country. Not

220:15

necessary.

220:16

>> I have to like crop this. I'm I'm sorry.

220:18

>> All right. Never mind. Wait a sec.

220:20

>> Uh here. Uh yeah. Yeah. Sorry, dude.

220:24

>> Do whatever you want to do. I don't

220:25

know. It's free country.

220:28

>> Uh yeah. I mean, I don't know. I

220:31

>> I love that Dan is cropping an image

220:33

that I sent him of a picture of my

220:35

screen.

220:40

Screenshots are so much work.

220:43

>> Yeah, I've I've taken like pictures of

220:46

this screen before and flow plane chat

220:48

will roast me and they're like, "Why are

220:49

you taking a screenshot?"

220:50

>> I'm not logged into anything.

220:52

>> Yeah,

220:52

>> it's just so much more work.

220:54

>> Yeah.

220:58

>> You ready, Dan?

220:59

>> No. Let's watch him work.

221:01

>> It's a It's a great question. I've

221:03

wanted to do a thing for a while now.

221:05

Um,

221:07

where I I look into like mesht mesh

221:10

meshtastic and use like the vehicle that

221:13

we're driving out as like the the node

221:16

and then the vehicle can have a really

221:17

sick antenna so that you could

221:18

effectively like connect

221:21

all that kind of cool stuff, but I

221:22

haven't got around to doing any of it.

221:23

Um, usually my primary tactic has been

221:26

to uh go out with a friend of mine who

221:29

has all those problems solved already

221:31

and then it's like, "Hooray, I'm the

221:33

passenger princess but hiking edition."

221:35

And then it's great.

221:37

>> Nice.

221:38

>> Yeah.

221:39

>> So, that was my yard. Um, that's

221:42

backount enough for me. [laughter]

221:46

>> We're not even in the back country.

221:47

>> This is like 1:00 in the morning. Um, my

221:50

son was having a sleepover and they

221:53

actually heard the bear shattering my

221:56

gate uh at the side of my house,

221:59

>> but didn't know that that's what the

222:01

noise was. They just like I don't know.

222:04

I don't know what they thought it was.

222:06

Um,

222:07

>> so yeah, that's pretty cool.

222:14

>> Yeah. All right. more.

222:17

>> Hey LDL, excited for the socks.

222:21

>> Jay Hman says, "Yeah, those chickens are

222:23

going to last a while."

222:24

>> The raccoons, do not try to fight a

222:27

raccoon.

222:29

Yeah, we know, Dan. It is really good

222:32

advice, though. [laughter]

222:35

Yikes. Question for Lionus. What's your

222:38

opinion on emotos such as Chirons all

222:41

the way to Starks, uh, with and without

222:44

the kids riding them?

222:46

Surons. Oh man. Okay. Are

222:50

>> there e ebikes, right?

222:51

>> Yeah. Um

222:54

I feel that the main issue right now is

222:57

just that we have a weird patchwork of

223:02

regulation around these things.

223:05

>> Much of which is not being enforced

223:08

because it's kind of stupid. And so what

223:10

we need is

223:13

we need rules that actually make sense

223:16

so that there is any chance whatsoever

223:19

of

223:20

um of adherence and enforcement because

223:24

right now it's the wild west and

223:27

something like this

223:29

that can do 50 m an hour

223:32

accelerating to more than half of that

223:34

speed in two and a half seconds.

223:37

Like you look at how much gear model

223:40

buddy here is wearing. I see kids all

223:43

over our neighborhood riding stuff that

223:45

frankly doesn't go maybe quite this fast

223:46

but goes

223:47

>> t-shirts and shorts

223:48

>> pretty fast. T-shirt, shorts, often not

223:50

even a helmet

223:51

>> ripping sometimes.

223:52

>> Um

223:55

like I I I don't I don't have a solution

223:57

to this one. This is this is a tough

223:58

one. This is a really tough one. Uh, on

224:01

the one hand, you know, is it very

224:03

convenient for me as a parrot parrot as

224:05

a as a parent, uh, is it very convenient

224:09

for me as a parent for my kids to be

224:11

able to just zip themselves off to the

224:13

in-laws place? Yeah, 100%. Um, do I

224:18

think that I could train my kids to ride

224:20

them in a safe manner? Yeah, probably

224:22

mostly. I hope. Um, is every kid

224:26

responsible enough to be in charge of

224:28

what is essentially a motor vehicle in

224:30

terms of its of its speed? Um, and its

224:33

potential for for user disaster? No. But

224:36

then on the other hand, going down a

224:38

fast enough hill, did I did I do 30 40 m

224:42

an hour on my pedal bike when I was a

224:45

kid? Uh, yeah. Could I have died? Yeah.

224:47

I But was I doing it all the time? No.

224:50

Because only when you had a really good

224:51

downhill could you do anything like

224:53

that. Emma and I had a conversation the

224:55

other day when we were walking around a

224:57

park and we saw these kids ripping

224:58

around. Uh, and I I I just we watched

225:02

them go by and then I looked at her and

225:04

I was like, is it the kids who are

225:06

wrong? Cuz like I'm I'm clearly trying

225:09

to reference like this sucks. Um because

225:12

there was there was two kids on one

225:14

scooter that was going really fast and

225:18

there was zero protective gear involved

225:20

and if they biffed

225:24

and hit their head, it's like

225:26

>> game over, man.

225:27

>> Seriously though, like they were going

225:28

fast enough that it's like this is major

225:31

problem time. Um, and people were

225:33

talking, "Oh my god, you have to have

225:35

your helmet on like a really terrible

225:38

Canadian tire pedal bike back in my

225:41

day."

225:42

>> Yeah.

225:42

>> That was not going anywhere near as fast

225:44

as these kids were going. Um.

225:46

>> Oh, it's scary.

225:47

>> And it's a scooter. I believe a lot less

225:49

in your ability to maintain control over

225:51

a scooter than a bike, personally. Um, I

225:54

we've also seen people rip around on

225:56

bikes, but I have more confidence that

225:58

they can control it over the scooter

226:01

thing.

226:02

Um,

226:07

more

226:09

da Winus Wuken Wan. Hello from Iowa. I

226:13

guess they all talk like that. They're

226:15

from there. What was the worst time a

226:18

device broke inexplicably of yours? PS.

226:21

Hi, Mom.

226:23

>> Um,

226:26

inexplicable breakage. I don't know

226:28

about the worst time, but the one that's

226:31

really grinding my gears right now is

226:34

the TV in my basement wreck room.

226:39

Sometimes cannot detect an input from my

226:41

PC.

226:43

It will detect other inputs.

226:46

It will

226:48

turn on and off. If I unplug it from the

226:51

wall, not just quickly. If I unplug it

226:53

from the wall, wait for the caps to

226:55

drain, and plug it back in, it'll work

226:56

again.

226:58

And it is it had it is I'm at the point

227:00

now where I'm considering replacing an

227:02

entire TV over like

227:04

>> an input problem,

227:05

>> an input issue, which drives me

227:07

absolutely crazy. That seems like a

227:08

crazy thing, especially when all the

227:10

other inputs work. And if I plug a

227:12

different device into that same input,

227:14

it will work.

227:15

>> Like all the troubleshooting steps. So

227:17

I'm I'm focused on the word inexplicable

227:19

in your in your message here.

227:21

>> This might sound absurd, but do you have

227:23

like a um

227:26

a few different devices. Yeah, that can

227:28

just sit in the middle.

227:30

>> Oh, I do have one that could sit in the

227:32

middle. I don't have one that is sitting

227:33

in the middle. I might have had concerns

227:36

about that. I can't remember why I did

227:38

it the way I did it because all the

227:39

other devices go through a little um

227:43

bloody hell who makes it a little Denon

227:45

switch or something like that. I can't

227:46

remember who makes it. Um and then the

227:48

PC goes directly into the TV, right?

227:50

because it uses the high-speed 4K120

227:53

input and this TV is a little bit older

227:56

now and not all of them are. I I I might

228:00

just get rid of it. Luke,

228:02

it's a 77 in. They're like 500 bucks

228:06

now. Like I I think I might just get a

228:08

different one and I could probably make

228:10

a video about it anyway. I'll do a short

228:12

circuit and I will put a TV on the wall.

228:14

Remember when I used to do that like

228:15

every two months?

228:17

>> That was a weird era for LTT.

228:20

It was It was probably also a weird era

228:22

for your house.

228:23

>> I think it might actually I think that

228:25

era might be coming again though because

228:27

the uh the family room PC is now like a

228:32

three fouryear-old OLED and my family

228:35

like I never really cared about it cuz I

228:37

was like whatever this is

228:38

>> that's where they watch all this stuff.

228:39

>> This is a tertiary TV in the house. It

228:42

gets used more than the other two

228:43

combined so I think I might upgrade it.

228:45

Um, the new Sony True RGB stuff looks

228:49

really nice. The LG G6 looks so good.

228:53

So, I might just have to do like a TV

228:55

roundup just so that I know which one to

228:56

put there. I like like any logical

228:59

person would do. Deploy the media

229:01

company to find out what the best TV is

229:03

so that I can make the right choice for

229:05

my living room and then everyone else

229:07

will benefit.

229:07

>> I was going to say you're theoretically

229:09

helping all the people's

229:11

>> That's the whole business model. Yay.

229:13

The LTT. It makes so much sense. We did

229:15

it. Now I understand.

229:17

>> He said the thing

229:20

[laughter]

229:22

>> he said the name He said the name of the

229:24

show in the show. [laughter]

229:26

>> Dude, he morbed all over that merch

229:28

message

229:28

>> and people stopped watching.

229:31

>> Community chat, whatever it's called.

229:33

>> It was nice while land show existed.

229:34

>> What are they again?

229:36

>> Com comms.

229:37

>> Comms check out message time. Why do I

229:41

have community stuck in my head? Sorry.

229:44

such as a farce like that. Linus, have

229:47

you tried turning a Ryzen AI Max 395

229:51

into a Steam Machine yet to test those

229:53

80060 graphics?

229:55

>> People keep bringing this up with me.

229:56

>> Gibberish words.

229:57

>> No, no, no. People keep bringing this

229:58

up.

230:00

>> They're like, Lionus, have you

230:02

considered that the framework desktop is

230:04

actually a better Steam machine than the

230:06

Steam Machine? And I'm like, my brother

230:09

in Christ, the framework the [laughter]

230:12

>> the framework desktop,

230:15

it starts

230:17

for

230:20

>> starts at $1,000. You're you're

230:22

complaining about the You're complaining

230:24

about the cost of the Steam Machine. Is

230:26

does that even have Hold on. Does that

230:28

even have a like a RAM and a drive in it

230:30

yet? Hold on. What am I looking at here?

230:32

What am I What am I looking at here? So,

230:34

here. Hold on. Let's go. Okay. Desktop.

230:36

Here we go. Here we go. configure now.

230:38

>> Okay. So, I want to get you want a 395.

230:41

>> I don't even think

230:42

>> what is happening.

230:44

>> Okay. You want a 395. Okay. So, you got

230:47

uh Yeah. 40 graphics core, 16 core, 16th

230:50

thread. Uh max. Yeah. Okay. So, so let's

230:52

go 64 gigs of RAM. I I'm spending

230:55

$2,000.

230:58

Two grand.

230:59

>> Try to configure as closely as you can

231:00

to a Steam machine.

231:01

>> I don't even have any storage yet. I

231:04

have Look. So, what? I put a one TBTE

231:06

stupid drive in here. $2200

231:10

redoss.

231:11

>> Is there a two TBTE version?

231:14

>> Uh, what do you mean CPU fan? Choose.

231:16

>> So, is this USD?

231:17

>> What? Bring your own fan. Oh, for crying

231:20

out loud. Okay. All right. I'll get a

231:23

>> No, it's Morbin time.

231:26

>> It's Morbin time.

231:27

>> I'm getting a Noctua. I refuse to engage

231:29

with this. [laughter]

231:34

one of the fans of all time.

231:37

>> Um,

231:37

>> yeah.

231:38

>> Yeah. So, I It's not even It's not in

231:41

the same price bracket at all.

231:44

>> How much is the C machine USD?

231:46

>> Um,

231:48

I'm trying to remember all the

231:50

configurations.

231:51

>> It was about a,000 bucks for Yeah. So,

231:54

we're looking at double the price. And

231:55

don't forget, even though the Steam

231:56

Machine has kind of anemic dedicated

231:59

graphics, it has dedicated graphics. And

232:02

even though the framework desktop has

232:04

the most roided out onboard graphics,

232:07

it's still got,

232:09

you know, onboard graphics. Actually, I

232:10

I do have to confess though. I, now that

232:12

you bring it up, I am kind of curious. I

232:15

would be kind of curious to see how a

232:17

framework desktop

232:19

would compare to the Steam machine. I

232:21

think it is faster. Uh, but I I actually

232:24

don't remember how an 860S compares to

232:27

um

232:27

>> there's some things like I don't think

232:28

it's coming with a controller. I don't

232:30

know if every Steam Machine comes with a

232:32

controller.

232:32

>> No. No.

232:33

>> Okay.

232:33

>> The controller, you get a discount on

232:35

adding on a controller, but it's not

232:37

much.

232:37

>> Okay. Uh because honestly, I would want

232:39

one of the Steam controllers if I'm

232:41

doing this setup

232:43

>> personally.

232:43

>> Um I would want a Steam controller, but

232:46

only if I had a Steam machine, if that

232:49

makes sense. Because to me, the main

232:51

benefit of the Steam controller is

232:52

actually not the trackpads. I I don't

232:54

think I would use them that much, but

232:56

rather the integration with the Steam

232:59

Machine. So I can turn it on and turn it

233:00

off and then use CC and everything can

233:02

just be done from my couch without

233:04

>> I would still want the trackpads.

233:06

>> The trackpads are pretty cool.

233:09

>> So if you're going to do this

233:10

comparison, which does actually sound

233:11

kind of fun, I think you would need to

233:14

include some form of CC solution and

233:16

stuff.

233:17

>> Uh [sighs]

233:20

now he doesn't want to do it

233:21

>> pretty much.

233:21

>> Yeah,

233:22

>> it's a hassle. It's just such a hassle

233:24

>> how it works.

233:28

Hi, DLL. Love all the Siberia merch so

233:31

far. What are some future products that

233:34

may be included in the Siberia lore?

233:36

>> Well, you said the

233:38

>> Oh, man. What's the code name again?

233:40

Mountain of light or

233:41

>> Light peak. Light peak.

233:43

>> I got to ask I got to ping Lisa about

233:45

that.

233:46

>> Uh, hold on. I'm going to I'm going to

233:48

ask her.

233:50

>> Can we add a mountain called

233:54

>> Pain in the Hassle without the H? I've

233:56

never heard of that before. That's

233:57

pretty good.

233:59

>> Okay. Schedule send Monday morning.

234:02

>> Great.

234:03

>> Um, okay. I think we're doing a map

234:06

blanket.

234:08

>> Don't quote me on that though.

234:09

>> Yeah, cool.

234:10

>> Yeah,

234:10

>> sure.

234:11

>> Um, as for like more

234:12

>> like a couch blanket kind of deal.

234:14

>> Yeah.

234:15

>> Yeah.

234:15

>> As for like more characters.

234:17

Um,

234:19

yeah, we've got the percussive

234:20

maintenance. We've got the cleanup

234:22

wizard. Oh man, was there was there

234:27

>> uh Pancrats pointed out uh Monday's a

234:29

holiday. So recently

234:30

>> Monday's a holiday.

234:31

>> Oh, bloody hell. I would have come in to

234:32

work. [laughter]

234:34

>> I had no idea. Is Monday a holiday?

234:37

>> What is going on?

234:38

>> I don't remember. I never

234:39

>> I used to have them all in my time sheet

234:41

thing and then they got rid of that and

234:43

now it's a real time sheet.

234:44

>> I never know the Canadian holidays.

234:47

>> So bad. Okay, if anyone if anyone from

234:50

Google is watching specifically the stat

234:54

>> the the the Gmail team um I'm in you

234:58

like you've got in the interface you've

235:00

got I can go to all my scheduled

235:01

messages right I can see all my

235:03

scheduled messages I can click my

235:04

scheduled message I can see when the

235:07

scheduled time is why is the only option

235:09

cancel send

235:09

>> why can't I change it

235:10

>> why can't I change it please let me

235:12

change it that would be wonderful thank

235:13

you very much so I click cancel send and

235:15

it's like now now I have to go. 1 2 3

235:20

4

235:22

5 6

235:25

What the hell is the date? 7 8

235:29

9

235:31

10 11 12 clicks. No,

235:34

>> I do prefer it over Teams, which just uh

235:36

graphically makes it look like the

235:38

message was sent.

235:39

>> Wait, did I just schedule? Oh, yeah. No,

235:41

I did that right

235:41

>> and then you have a panic attack. Yeah,

235:43

[laughter]

235:44

that's so annoying

235:47

cuz I've sent messages at like 4 in the

235:49

morning and I'm like, "Wait, right. No,

235:51

it's okay."

235:52

>> Cuz I'm not at my best at 4 in the

235:54

morning, so I could get tricked by it

235:55

multiple times.

235:58

>> Couple more here. Hey Dan, Luke, and

236:00

Lionus, what is the wildest throwback to

236:03

an old video um you've been hit with?

236:07

Uh, I was reminded by someone at

236:09

OpenSauce uh that you and I played with

236:12

shot callers during a mineral oil build.

236:15

And I was like, "What?" He's like,

236:18

"Yeah, you did." And I was like, "No, I

236:20

think that was like a Channel Superun

236:22

around the same time."

236:22

>> We shot it at the exact same time.

236:25

>> Apparently, we shot it at the same

236:27

[laughter] time.

236:30

>> Why relight a different set? [laughter]

236:33

>> Yeah.

236:34

>> Efficient. I I don't know that that's

236:37

the wildest throwback I've ever had. It

236:38

was very recent and it was pretty

236:39

surprising. But yeah,

236:42

>> um it's again not the wildest throwback,

236:44

but it was the one that wasted the most

236:46

of my time recently because YouTube

236:48

search I used to be able to find this

236:50

video pretty easily with YouTube search.

236:52

But there is a really really old video

236:55

of um you know what? I I think I I think

237:00

I still have it. Um,

237:05

I'll send it to Dan. Oops. Not bravo,

237:09

brother.

237:15

Hold on, Sammy. Okay, hold on. But um

237:19

Sammy needed for the like family vlog,

237:22

he needed uh a video that I referred to

237:27

that was shot with my brother that was

237:29

just like him riding down a riding down

237:34

a snowy hill. Um

237:38

and what am I Dang it. What am I looking

237:40

for? I can't find it.

237:44

Uh,

237:49

>> copy URL. I feel like there's so much

237:52

tension right now. Am I missing

237:54

something here?

237:55

>> Uh, we're just thinking about something.

237:56

Do Do you want us to do the next merch

237:58

message while you look for this? Are you

237:59

going to find

238:00

>> What did you just call me?

238:01

>> The the next checkout message.

238:05

>> Okay. Okay. So, here we go. I could not

238:08

No. No. I've got it now. Uh, I could not

238:11

find Oh, wait. Why am I sending this to

238:13

Dan? I know what the title of the video

238:14

is now. Okay. YouTube.com.

238:17

>> Oh my god.

238:18

>> Uh I had to find this because I referred

238:20

to it in the family vlog and Sammy

238:22

needed the original footage of uh my

238:25

little brother. A video like we uploaded

238:27

to the channel of my little brother

238:28

sledding down a hill and wiping out.

238:30

It's It's always crazy to me Lionus

238:33

little brother how people will be like,

238:34

"Yeah, LTT used to be good. They had

238:36

like good They had good videos back in

238:38

the day." Like, no, we had some good

238:39

videos, but we had some absolute

238:42

garbage trash videos. So, finding this

238:46

video is like ridiculously hard. It used

238:50

to be really easy to get it to come up.

238:52

But what are these results even? Lionus

238:54

Tech little brother sledding. He thought

238:56

his internet was okay. It's not.

238:59

YouTube, what are you doing? So, add the

239:03

channel, I guess. Sure, fine. Totally

239:06

unrelated thing. Another ad. This has

239:10

nothing to do with sle. Nothing to do

239:11

with sledding. That's my son, not my

239:13

little brother. Here's an ad. Sorry.

239:15

Excuse me. No, that's a mainline video

239:17

upload about our socks.

239:18

>> Uh, okay. Tech house. Uh,

239:21

>> boom. Roasted.

239:22

>> Another pathetic attempt at chasing

239:26

clout.

239:27

>> Um, anniversary stream. My son again.

239:31

Once again, not my brother. Definitely

239:33

my son. Zip tie tuning.

239:36

>> Hell yeah. What? Where is this video?

239:40

Okay. And then you guys are going to see

239:42

when I actually do finally manage to

239:44

bring it up. The only way that I was

239:46

able to find it was by scrolling

239:49

infinitely through our video archive

239:52

>> until you get back there.

239:54

>> So, here's a lot of videos like that,

239:55

too.

239:56

>> Here's what it's called. I really gave

239:57

it I gave it a good solid chance at

239:59

this. Snow ramp wipe out my little

240:03

brother Linus Tech Tips. This is This is

240:06

prime era tech de t.

240:08

>> Here it is. So I gave it brother. I gave

240:11

it linus tech. What other keyword did I

240:13

give it?

240:14

>> Sledding.

240:15

>> Sledding. Okay. It's not technically

240:16

sledding.

240:19

Did I put sledding in the keywords here?

240:22

No, I did. I put wagon snow ramp. Okay.

240:24

Well, whatever. The point is this is the

240:26

video and this was the this was the the

240:29

throwback that Sammy made me made me

240:32

find.

240:33

>> Wow. This is an actual LT upload.

240:36

>> It's so important.

240:40

[laughter]

240:40

>> Do they have audio? Hold on, Dan. Do

240:42

they have audio? They need the audio.

240:44

>> They They do not have audio.

240:45

>> Okay. How about How about now? Hold on.

240:47

This is worth it. This is worth it.

240:49

>> You'll You'll have to start it again cuz

240:50

I'm not getting anything. There we go.

240:52

>> Now they have audio. Okay. You don't.

240:55

Now you do. Here we go. Here we go. Here

240:57

we go.

241:07

>> [laughter]

241:12

>> That is an actual LT upload. [laughter]

241:14

>> That's actually awesome. Wonder if I can

241:16

find a

241:17

>> mainline channel.

241:18

>> Yep.

241:21

For real, though.

241:22

>> Our quality's gone downhill. What the

241:25

>> Nice. [laughter]

241:26

Solid.

241:27

This is back when I just got a I got a

241:30

small I got a small bonus per upload and

241:34

nobody at the company actually watched

241:36

anything that I uploaded. [laughter]

241:38

So

241:40

I uh Yep. So I did things like this

241:43

[sighs]

241:45

more often than you might think.

241:52

I've got a couple I've got a couple more

241:53

for you. This is a mainline LTT video.

241:56

Oh my god.

241:59

[sighs]

242:01

Nope. No audio will not be necessary for

242:04

this one.

242:05

Come on. This might actually be post Oh,

242:09

no. 16 years ago. Yep. This is pre the

242:12

company. So, here's a mainline LT video.

242:26

>> [laughter]

242:26

>> Oh, no.

242:29

[gasps]

242:30

>> Yeah, it's a it's a rabbit. All right.

242:34

Uh I mean I I filmed the same thing.

242:38

There was a rabbit just outside this

242:39

door. I asked if it wanted to be on the

242:41

WAN show

242:43

and what' it say? It just left.

242:47

>> Rude.

242:47

>> It's very rude,

242:49

>> man.

242:52

Early gift from

242:53

>> Yeah, I know this one.

242:57

>> Yep,

242:58

>> I knew this one for sure.

242:59

>> My classic purple gecko hat that I wore

243:02

for many billion years.

243:04

>> We have a time capsule for the

243:06

shrinkflation from Toblerone.

243:08

>> Oh. Oh, yeah.

243:09

>> Yeah. Really? They used to be freaking

243:11

units, dude. Oh, and they can't they

243:13

can't say it's Swiss chocolate anymore

243:14

because they moved all the processing

243:17

outside of Switzerland and they have a

243:19

really very important rule for that.

243:22

>> Yep. Yes, I unboxed a Toblerone unique

243:25

username. Watch your language.

243:27

>> Um,

243:30

what am I doing? Did you see that? What

243:32

was I doing?

243:34

>> What?

243:36

>> Oh, I think I'm showing it relative to

243:37

the size of my stomach. [clears throat]

243:38

>> Yeah.

243:39

>> Yeah. Like, could I even eat all this

243:41

chocolate? Yeah. 750 g. Look at that.

243:45

Oh, the nutrition facts.

243:48

>> Ivon. Ivonne was the camera op for this,

243:50

by the way.

243:50

>> Yeah.

243:51

>> Good job, Ivonne. Focusing on the

243:53

vitamins.

243:55

>> Hold on. Oh, no. No. She had it. She had

243:56

it. I had it.

243:57

>> Scroll down.

243:58

>> Yep. She did it. She did a good job.

244:00

>> Good focus.

244:00

>> Yep. Per One Piece. Yep. That was on my

244:03

old SX1is, I think. Well, not mine.

244:06

>> How did it 16 years ago? So that was

244:08

>> Y.

244:09

>> Yeah. Okay. Cuz I was going to say I

244:10

I've seen that. That was right before

244:12

me, I think.

244:13

>> Dude, I was 25.

244:17

>> That's weird, eh?

244:18

>> I know.

244:21

>> A fun one for me. Every once in a blue

244:24

moon, I will go back to it. Um I wonder

244:26

if I can find it.

244:30

Luke's first video.

244:32

>> Oh,

244:34

>> yeah. There it is.

244:37

us reacting to this is old. And at the

244:40

time that we reacted to it, the video

244:41

that we're reacting to was also very

244:43

old.

244:44

[laughter]

244:46

Jesus.

244:50

[laughter]

244:53

Oh man.

244:56

[gasps]

244:56

Hold on here. Hold on. Where is he? Look

244:59

at him. Look at him. He's a baby. This

245:02

was filmed. My mom filmed this on a Flip

245:04

HD that I borrowed from a buddy that I

245:06

worked with at Best Buy.

245:09

>> Oh, did you do this movie theater at

245:10

9,000 or whatever it's called style?

245:12

>> Yes. Yeah, we did.

245:13

>> Oh, that's great.

245:14

>> Yeah,

245:14

>> even there you look. It's like now you

245:17

got triple react.

245:18

>> Young L young Luke reacts to even

245:21

younger Luke.

245:22

>> And we can look back at this in 10

245:23

years.

245:24

>> Find this clip from the L show.

245:26

See, the problem now is I can look back

245:28

at videos of mine from back then and I

245:31

question if I could do things like there

245:34

I'm laughing because I'm bad. Now I look

245:37

back at certain videos from back then of

245:38

myself and I'm like I don't know if I

245:39

can do that anymore

245:42

cuz I've [laughter] like I used to

245:44

actually like host really often

245:46

>> and now I don't.

245:46

>> No, you could do it. You'd be fine.

245:48

>> Yeah, you just start hosting more.

245:49

>> Start a practice. Come on.

245:51

>> Yeah, you're overthinking. Come on.

245:52

You're overthinking it. Come on.

245:54

>> You're overthinking it. I'm sure the

245:57

player actually work. You've got it.

246:00

You're just self-conscious now.

246:02

>> I It's not as uh It's It's definitely

246:05

And I know this for sure. It doesn't

246:06

come as naturally anymore.

246:08

>> Quick, let's give him his confidence

246:09

back by by beating him up some more.

246:12

Come on, Dan. Help me.

246:14

>> Yeah, you're

246:14

>> Yeah, you're so wrong.

246:16

>> You're incorrect about yourself.

246:18

>> Why are you so wrong about yourself?

246:19

[laughter]

246:20

>> I'm pretty confident of that, actually.

246:22

>> So ignorant.

246:24

She's being

246:25

>> Yeah. This is actually supposed to

246:27

demotivate you and make you

246:29

>> Yeah.

246:30

>> feel bad about yourself.

246:31

>> No, we're supposed to motivate him more.

246:32

Get rid of that.

246:34

>> He doesn't Yeah. No.

246:35

>> No. No. No. No. He doesn't know.

246:37

>> He doesn't know that he [laughter]

246:38

doesn't know how good he is.

246:40

>> Oh my god.

246:41

>> This is This is now Hope.

246:43

>> I think I'm pretty realistic about it. I

246:44

used to do a thing all still do it, but

246:46

I'm not as good as I used to be.

246:47

>> You're not delusional enough.

246:49

>> Oh my god.

246:50

>> You just need more practice.

246:51

>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

246:53

Come on, we believe in you.

246:56

>> Don't prove us wrong. We hate being

246:58

wrong. [laughter]

247:00

>> Dude, speed tapping. Okay, hit me down.

247:04

>> Uh, last one I guess is for Luke.

247:08

>> We just got another one.

247:09

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can

247:11

do that.

247:11

>> Uh, Luke, you briefly mentioned looking

247:13

into Proton Workspace/Proton

247:16

Mail business for LCD switch from

247:18

Microsoft Google Workspace. Is that

247:20

something you're exploring or is it

247:22

lacking something?

247:23

>> We are in a gridlock.

247:26

>> Oh,

247:27

>> there are a set of departments that if

247:29

we leave lose one set of software with

247:32

are basically saying that their lives

247:34

will end and they won't be able to do

247:35

their jobs. And there's another set of

247:37

departments that if we lose the other

247:39

piece of software that we use say the

247:41

exact same thing.

247:43

And we are stuck in this spot where both

247:47

groups of departments separately think

247:50

it would effectively cost more to deal

247:52

with the migration than it would to just

247:54

keep the service.

247:56

>> And for people who don't pay for the

247:58

service

247:58

>> for sure. I've talked to multiple other

248:00

companies that are stuck in the same

248:02

spot. Like a lot of them actually.

248:04

>> What's their solution?

248:05

>> They're all doing the same thing.

248:07

>> So they just keep paying.

248:08

>> Yeah.

248:09

>> That's crazy.

248:10

>> It is. Some of the situations are even

248:13

worse than ours because they also have

248:14

full Slack subscriptions for everyone.

248:16

Nice.

248:17

>> They just have Slack and Teams and

248:18

Google Workspace for everybody.

248:20

>> That's nuts.

248:22

>> Nice.

248:22

>> Um

248:25

>> Scrappy DP says that's how they get you

248:29

>> 100%.

248:30

>> It's just a ton of lock in. Yeah, cuz

248:32

like I mean if you think about it, if we

248:33

exited Google Workspace,

248:36

>> the migration of the drive,

248:38

>> I'd riot

248:39

>> would be actually mind-blowingly

248:41

difficult.

248:42

>> Oh yeah.

248:42

>> Like and like when you migrate drive,

248:44

you lose all comments on everything.

248:47

>> They can't migrate over.

248:49

>> Nice.

248:49

>> So like we would actually genuinely lose

248:51

a lot of information.

248:52

>> How is it that we're not using AI to

248:53

solve that problem? You know,

248:56

>> I mean you might be able to. Sure, but

248:59

why is but why aren't Microsoft and

249:01

Google doing it? Yeah, that's my point.

249:03

>> And then if we dump Microsoft, there's

249:06

like a huge amount of authentication

249:07

stuff and then some things that the, you

249:11

know, I'm not going to call any specific

249:13

team names out, but a few teams use that

249:15

is like rather specific that would be

249:16

really problematic for them. And there's

249:18

some things we can do. We have done

249:20

something where we we drew back our

249:23

subscription tier on Google Workspace

249:26

>> um to save some money there. And there's

249:28

a couple other plans we can do like

249:29

little things. Um

249:33

it's this genuinely makes me really sad

249:39

but we might kill Slack.

249:43

>> A lot of those people are on teams now

249:45

at this point and it's just like

249:48

>> times are tight. We've got to kill

249:50

Slack. Get it?

249:52

>> Yeah.

249:54

But unfortunately, like actually and the

249:57

program, not the Yeah.

249:59

>> And to be clear, it's not like, see,

250:01

this is the tough thing, right? Because

250:02

we could keep paying for Slack. It's not

250:04

like we're on the verge of bankruptcy or

250:06

whatever, but it's like at a certain

250:08

point, you just have to look at costs

250:10

and budgeting and go, well, hold on a

250:11

second. Is this responsible?

250:13

>> Yeah.

250:13

>> What can we cut? We You can't just It's

250:16

so easy to end up dying by a thousand

250:19

cuts if you just subscribe to

250:21

everything. And realistically, I really

250:23

hate Teams and jumping Slack over to

250:27

Teams.

250:27

>> Which one specifically?

250:31

>> Jumping Slack over to Teams will suck.

250:33

But Slack is also a very premium chat

250:36

program.

250:37

>> And yeah, Teams is garbage, but we also

250:39

use it for the entire rest of the

250:40

company. We can use it for Flip Plane.

250:41

>> Yeah, if I have to put up with it, then

250:43

>> yeah,

250:43

>> so does everybody. I genuinely think the

250:46

company would be happier if everyone was

250:47

on Slack, but Slack is so expensive

250:50

>> compared comparatively to Team

250:52

Salesforce, which I cannot get over and

250:54

I swear I say this every time.

250:56

>> That's the biggest fumble Google is like

250:59

ever done. What is wrong with you?

251:01

>> How do they not literally Slack's logo

251:04

has the Google colors in it? like the

251:07

the the like masterpiece combination in

251:10

my opinion back in the day and still

251:11

kind of now is Google Workspace and

251:14

Slack.

251:15

>> Yeah,

251:15

>> it's a wonderful combination. And I know

251:19

people within Google apparently use chat

251:22

which is insane.

251:26

Okay, [laughter]

251:28

that's nuts. I like I and like

251:31

>> that's why they haven't built a a Slack

251:33

competitor because they don't know. I

251:34

was at communicate

251:36

>> maybe I was I was at a YouTube event

251:38

recently. They were definitely using

251:40

chat. I hung out with a buddy of mine.

251:42

>> That's true. It really is real.

251:44

>> Yes. I didn't believe it for a long

251:45

time.

251:46

>> No. Yeah. It's real.

251:47

>> It's real.

251:48

>> Yep.

251:48

>> I know people at Microsoft that use

251:50

Slack. So, I thought it was a thing like

251:53

and I mean internally like internal

251:55

teams at Microsoft that use Slack.

251:57

That's how much Teams sucks.

251:58

>> So, I thought no, okay, Google must use

252:01

Slack or whatever else. No, they

252:02

actually just use chat.

252:04

>> And I don't know, maybe that's something

252:06

that we have to go to our teams and kind

252:07

of say like, okay, if Google can be one

252:10

of the most valuable companies in the

252:12

world and they can get by with

252:14

>> Hangouts,

252:15

>> maybe we

252:16

>> then maybe we could live with whatever

252:18

one ecosystem we ultimately decide on.

252:20

>> Yeah,

252:21

>> I don't know. But to be clear, I haven't

252:23

had these one-on-one conversations with

252:25

people, so I

252:26

>> can't fully do that. A pretty

252:28

significant amount of the company needs

252:30

things like desktop Excel.

252:32

And if you look at how Microsoft does

252:35

their pricing, Yeah.

252:36

>> by the time you get up to desktop Excel,

252:38

>> they have like everything else.

252:40

>> Excel is what everybody wants anyway.

252:41

>> And they know they need desktop Excel

252:43

cuz Web Excel gets included super early

252:45

on for very cheap.

252:46

>> Yeah. Cuz it sucks.

252:46

>> But desktop Excel is like this massive

252:48

jump. So if like a third of the freaking

252:50

company uses desktop Excel, then

252:55

>> a third of the company's going to have

252:56

Teams anyways. A third of the company

252:58

really need desktop Excel?

253:01

>> This is a problem because can the IT

253:03

team decide if you need something or

253:06

not?

253:09

>> You could take it away and then see

253:12

>> you want to see the the productivity

253:14

destruction that happens from that. Also

253:16

the like just rampant hatred from IT

253:19

team.

253:20

>> Lionus, do you remember five minutes ago

253:21

when he said it was going to cost you

253:22

more to switch than to stay on it? Yeah.

253:27

>> Are you starting to understand now how

253:29

this is cheaper?

253:30

>> Yeah. Dan Dan Good fullplay chat said

253:32

working at Google right now. Can confirm

253:33

we use Google chat. I believe you now.

253:36

And that's insane.

253:39

>> Yep.

253:40

>> Oh my god.

253:43

>> Can you just approach Salesforce and buy

253:45

freaking Slack and tie it in Google

253:47

Workspace and stop being

253:49

>> I don't think they want to do that.

253:50

Salesforce bought it for $27 billion.

253:54

Yeah,

253:54

>> I remember that being huge news at the

253:56

time because acquisition valuations like

253:59

I remember everyone freaked out when

254:01

Amazon bought Twitch for a billion and

254:04

then now it's just like oh yeah

254:05

Twitter's worth $44 billion and a chat

254:09

app is worth 27 billion. What are even

254:11

what what is it?

254:13

>> I got a ploy for Google. I got a ploy

254:16

for Google. All the programmers use

254:17

Slack, right? buy Slack and then use it

254:21

to train Gemini on how to program

254:22

because they're all going to be posting

254:23

about their code in Slack.

254:26

>> Honestly, yeah. Uh, Business Plus

254:29

includes SSO. So, all the big companies

254:32

are going here. 9 USD a month for just

254:36

chat. That's crazy. Hey, Google, just

254:39

buy it. Apparently, you'll make your

254:40

money back. Everyone uses this because

254:42

the other ones are terrible. They're so

254:45

bad. Teams is just like I don't know.

254:50

It's like do you wanna do you wanna cut

254:51

off your legs so you can afford slack or

254:53

do you want to slowly poison yourself?

254:55

And then it's like okay I guess I'll

254:56

slowly poison myself cuz Teams is that

254:59

bad.

254:59

>> I don't know. There's something to be

255:00

said for cutting off a leg. [laughter]

255:02

>> You save on shoes.

255:05

>> Yeah.

255:05

>> And uh now we're going to save on um you

255:08

guys needing to continue watching the

255:11

WAN show. That's it for this week, guys.

255:13

Thank you so much for tuning in. all all

255:15

of all of y'all. I can't believe how

255:17

many people tuned in to the WAN show

255:19

this week. We I I don't actually

255:21

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255:23

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255:34

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255:36

>> Thank you. Bye.

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This episode of the WAN show discusses the recent controversy surrounding Minecraft's increased system requirements and the new AMD RX9050 GPU, which includes a 4GB version likely intended for OEMs. The hosts also dive into personal stories, including Linux background RAM usage, anecdotes about movie theater experiences, and Linus's upcoming experiment with ADHD medication. Finally, the show touches upon business challenges in the current market, including the high cost of enterprise software suites, and updates on LMG's internal projects.

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