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all right so it's finally happening

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after months of speculation uh fat share

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Jerome Powell yesterday made it very

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very clear abundantly clear that he's

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going to start cutting interest rates

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this coming September so what does it

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mean to the for the stock market do we

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expect the stock market to continue

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going up or will the market usually

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crash after the fat Cuts rates and if

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the market continues to go up which

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sectors what kind of stocks are going to

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benefit the most well let's find out in

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this video

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so after increasing interest rates

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aggressively in 2022 and keeping

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interest rates pretty high for the last

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2 and a half years the fat chair Jerome

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Powell is going to cut interest rates

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for the first time this coming September

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and in many many ways it has been a

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blessing for those of us who have had

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cash in fixed deposits in Money Market

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funds in bonds we've had pretty good

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yields right but it's all coming to an

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end so your nice 5% interest rate on

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your fixed deposits on your time

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deposits are all going to start coming

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down so how much lower will interest

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rates go from here well if you take a

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look at what is called the FED Dot Plot

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now there are about 19 members in the

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Federal Reserve committee and they will

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all vote on where they think interest

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rates will be or they're going to cut

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two in the next uh 3 to 4 years so and

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that's why you can see that for each

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year 2024 that's this year 25 26 and in

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the long run you've got all these dots

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so each dot represents a vote by one

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member so they all have uh different

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expectations so we take a median of

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where it's going to be now of course

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does it always play out exactly no it's

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just an expectation now currently the

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FED funds rate which is the short-term

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interest rate is at

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5.25% to 5.5% that is the current rate

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range all right so what the FED members

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expect is by the end of this year

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they're going to cut interest rates by

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25 basis points which is

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0.25% so the Medan expectation is by the

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end of this year the FED funds rates or

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short-term interest rates will go to

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about just over 5% which is actually

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still pretty high right but next year by

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the end of next year 2025 they expected

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to go down to a median of 4.1% in 2026

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3.1% and in the long run rates are going

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to come back down to 2.8% which is still

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much higher than where we started in

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2022 at the time interest rates were

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near zero because of covid the FED cut

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rates to zero to stimulate the economy

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okay so let's answer the first

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question as the FED starts lowering

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short-term interest rates then longterm

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interest rates rates start coming down

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as well okay how will this affect the

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stock market Will the Market continue to

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be bullish or will it be bearish so to

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answer this question here's a bit of uh

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basic economics to understand why the

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FED raises and cuts interest rates in

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the first place now think of the economy

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like a car we want the car to keep

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moving but if the car goes too fast what

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happens it gets overheated smoke coming

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out right so that's what happens when

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the economy is too strong you get

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inflation we don't want that okay so too

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fast no good now at the same time if the

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car goes too slowly and the car stops

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and stalls we don't like that either

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that's called recession all right so

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what happened was in 2021 the economy

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the car was going too fast overheating

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we had inflation so the the the FED had

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to slow the car down by stepping on the

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bre break so when they step on the break

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it's raising interest rates so remember

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raising interest rates means they're

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tapping on the braks to slow the car

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down so the last 2 and a half years were

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tapping tapping tapping tapping and a

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car is slowing down right but the the

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concern what happens if you tap on the

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brakes too much the car May stall and

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stop so now the FED is realizing okay

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there's no more smoke coming up

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inflation is now t came and the car is

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slowing down so before the car stops the

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FED has to start stepping on the

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accelerator which is cutting interest

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rates so remember whenever the fat Cuts

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interest rates is like them stepping on

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the accelerator to get the car going and

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ensuring it doesn't stall now if you

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read a lot of Doom and Gloom articles

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many people say oh if you look at the

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past every time the the fat cut interest

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rates what happened the market will

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crash we had a recession right so is

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that always true as usual we like to

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look at the facts the numbers and not

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just generalize based on one or two

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events so on this chart you can see all

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the times when the FED first started

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cutting interest rates when they first

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started stepping on the accelerator

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going back to 1970 the last 54 years all

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right so again some people who want to

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create a lot of fear they'll say Hey you

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know uh by the way this is the First

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Rate cut in every cycle which is this

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cut I don't know what color you call

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that it's kind of like a strange blue

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let's call it blue right so you can see

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they may say hey see over here they they

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cut interest rates what happened boom we

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had a recession we had the great

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financial crisis same thing here they

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cut interest rates what happened we died

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again and over here they cut interest

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rates we died again so this time when

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they cut interest rates we're going to

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die okay now remember you have to

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understand the logic of

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why uh they were cutting rates here here

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so understand that when the fat cut

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interest rates

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here it's like again stepping on the

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accelerator it's not the cutting of the

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interest rates that caus the crash the

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point was the market was already

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crashing for other reasons in this case

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it crashed because of the dotom bubble

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bursting all right in this case it was a

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great financial crisis because of

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property collapsing so it was another

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reason that caused the crash so once the

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the fat saw that the car was being hit

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by a boulder or the car was being hit by

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another car what did they do they didn't

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want the car to stop so they started

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stepping on the accelerator to get the

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car going but when you step on the

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accelerator the car doesn't go

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immediately it takes a few months for

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the car to get started so there's a kind

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of a couple of months lag right so

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that's the reason why it coincided with

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the First Rate cut over here yeah so

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going back 54 years yes there were times

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when the fed had to cut rates to save

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the economy to save the market that got

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whack for some other reason and this

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happened again in 1981 which is over

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here uh they cut rates market crash 2001

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they cut rates market crash 2008 the cut

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rates market crash happened three times

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in 54 years but at the same time in that

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same 54 years there were many times when

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the First Rate cut was followed by a

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stock market rally and this happened in

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1980 84 90 uh 89 95 and 2019 so let's

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take a look at this so first in 1980

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over here what happened the FED cut

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interest rates Ste on the accelerator

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Market went up they cut interest rates

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for the first time of 1984 Market went

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up they cut rates for the first time in

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1989 Market went up a bit of a dip then

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went up again cut rates here Market went

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up and of course finally in 2019 when

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they cut rates again Market went up let

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me say but the market crash now again

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this market crash was not because of the

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rate cut this Market crashed because of

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the covid-19 pandemic so once again this

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market crash was not caused by a rate

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cut it was caused by something else

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completely all right so what's the

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lesson history shows that rate hikes

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rate increases and rate Cuts alone don't

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determine the direction of the stock

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market the direction of the stock market

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depends on the earnings growth of the

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companies which is indirectly affected

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by economic growth and consumer spending

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which is affected by many other

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variables that you can't predict all of

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them all right now in this next chart

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you can also see historically um what

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happened when the FED first started

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cutting interest rate since 1955 and it

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all depends again on what is happening

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to the economy is the economy doing well

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or is the economy going into recession

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so when there is no recession and the

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economy continues to do well you can see

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this red line once the fat Cuts rates

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let's call that um at 0 Z and there's no

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recession the market continues to be

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bullish so much so that in 12 months the

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market is up

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about um I would give it about 15%

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higher and in 24 months it's up to

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another 40% higher if there's no

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recession now what if there is a

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recession and we found that the FED cut

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rates too slowly that they should have

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stepped on an accelerated a lot earlier

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now they're too late and economy is like

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slowing down the car slowing car's going

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to stall then what do we expect then

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yeah the market could go down in that

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situation of which historically you can

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see that 6 months uh with a recession in

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Orange you can see if there's a

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recession that hits you can see 6 months

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after the First Rate cut or over here

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let's say about 9 months the market may

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drop about uh 50 % from where we are now

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but in 12 months it would rebound and

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we're just down about 5% and within

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about 24 months you've made back all the

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losses so I keep saying that as an

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investor don't be worried about

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recessions and Market crashes they are

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always

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temporary that over time in the next 12

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24 months markets will always make it

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all back and be a lot higher and

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especially if you hold hold on to good

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high quality companies they may not even

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drop very much anyway right and even if

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they do drop temporarily good gives us a

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chance to accumulate more shares at

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discount so in the long run we have a

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bigger stti in these great companies and

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we make much higher returns as our

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wealth compounds of course you may ask

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me the million dollar question so Adam

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are we going to a recession or not

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because there's a big difference and the

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answer is I don't know okay no one can

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predict for certain even the top

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Economist can't predict when a recession

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will occur and if a recession will occur

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all we can do is to look at the current

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state of the eony now and to see okay

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what's the probability that the economy

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is slowing down into recession and

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what's the probability that it's Contin

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to grow okay so there are two things we

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can look at number one we look at

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GDP and if you look at GDP for the last

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quarter which was quarter 2 2024 GDP

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accelerated better than expected to 2.8%

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in quarter 2 how about quarter three

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which has not yet been reported well if

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you look at the Atlanta fed GDP now real

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tracking data that tracks GP as real

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live as possible you can see the latest

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forecast for quarter Tre GDP is 2%

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granted it has been slowing down from

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2.8% well it did go up to

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2.9% and to Dro to 2.4% and now 2% but

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it's it's still growing for now all

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right I'm not saying that it can go

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negative you could but for now it's

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still

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growing but what's more important is not

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just the GDP it's the earnings of the

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company remember

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ultimately what drives the stock market

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higher what drives stock prices higher

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earnings as long as earnings grow prices

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will increase and again we can't predict

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the earnings of the future perfectly but

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we can just look at earnings estimates

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based on what companies are reporting

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and their forward guidance so from this

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chart what you can see first of all in

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blue this is the actual S&P 500 earnings

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per share actually rep import so as you

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guys know earnings have been growing

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especially driven driven up by the

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Magnificent Six companies that are AI

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related so earnings are growing so as

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long as earnings are growing the stock

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market will keep going higher now how

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about the estimated earnings moving

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forward so that's what we call forward

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earnings per share which are again

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Guided by the companies right so you can

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see in the red dotted line that

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continues to be going up which means

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companies expect to report higher

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earnings in the next quarter the next

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year and that would reflect in higher

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stock prices and by the end of 20124 the

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forward earnings for cars will be

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$275 earnings per share for the S&P 500

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by the end of

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2025 which is next year we expect

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forward earnings for casts of 300 $300

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per share and by the end of

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2026 forward earnings for cast of $325

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so barring any unforeseen circumstances

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like monkey pox or aliens Landing or

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tsunami or earthquake right companies

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should continue to grow their earnings

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in the next three years result intrinsic

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values of the stocks of the businesses

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will keep going up and share prices will

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reflect the higher intrinsic values I

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continue to to be the most optimistic

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the most bullish on AI related stocks

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not all AI related stocks the high

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quality ones that are extremely

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profitable because I think that above of

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the earnings growth will come from these

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companies your Amazon your Microsoft

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your meta your pener your Google your

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Microsoft your service now this your

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asml your Nvidia your broadcom these are

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the companies that are going to make up

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the bulk of the earnings growth in the

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future now in addition to these

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companies of which my portfolio is

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mainly focused on these companies there

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are some other companies that have been

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left behind as you guys know in the last

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two years because of very high interest

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rates so now that interest rates are

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starting to go down these stocks that

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have been unloved that have been cast

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aside they are beginning to Rebound with

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lower interest rates so what are these

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specific sectors and

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stocks that will finally now benefit

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from lower interest rates basically

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there are five of these uh types of

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stocks number one would be highly

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leveraged businesses so what does this

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mean now leverage means borrowing okay

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so some types of companies they need to

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borrow a lot of money they highly

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leveraged because of the nature of their

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industry example real estate stocks

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especially companies in property

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development uh in construction they

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normally take on a lot of

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debt industrial stocks tend to also have

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a lot of debt to finance their High

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Capital expenditures utility stocks also

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usually have a lot of debt as well as

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material stocks commodity stocks are

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very highly

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leveraged so when companies have a lot

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of debt what

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happens they suffer with high interest

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rates because when interest rates are

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very high they have to pay a lot of

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interest on their Bonds on their

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borrowings and that lowers their profits

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hence they have not been doing well in

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the last two and a half years with high

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interest rates so now that interest

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rates are beginning to come down you

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will notice that these stocks have

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started rebounding in anticipation of

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lower interest rates for example you can

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take a look at the real estate ETF which

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is xlre you can see yep it's starting to

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Rebound in anticipation of lower

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interest rates why because once interest

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rates come down these companies have to

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pay less interest in less interest on

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their loans and their profits will

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increase at the same time they can

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afford to take more loans at lower

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interest rates all right what's the next

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one next one be materials or commodity

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stocks you can look at the ETF which is

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xlb

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and you can see same thing it started it

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has now started to Rebound with the news

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of uh fat cutting rates next would be

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industrial stocks look at

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xli industrial stocks ETF again you can

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see rebounding and uh finally real

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estate stocks right

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XLR that has also been rebounding okay

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now as you guys know generally I don't

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like to invest in companies with a lot

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of debt I avoid them like the plague so

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that's why I tend to not like real

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estate stocks I don't like commodity

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stocks I don't like utility stocks I

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don't like industrial stocks but there

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are exceptions of companies in those

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sectors that don't have that much high

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debt example would be in the real estate

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sector I own lows which is the main

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competitor to Home Depo and LS itself

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doesn't have very high debt but it is in

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the real estate sector so as interest

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rates come down you you realize that

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more people would be able to afford

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housing okay because mortgages will come

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down so they will buy more houses they

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will construct more houses and then of

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course lows that sells all these uh

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do-it-yourself uh Home Improvement uh

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equipment and services they will do well

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as well so you can see recently lows has

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been rebounding as a result of this next

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asset to benefit obviously will be reach

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Real Estate Investment Trust now like I

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said I don't like to invest in real

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estate companies like property

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developers and construction companies

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but I do invest in REITs very

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selectively and personally I tend to

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focus on some of the Singapore listed

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reats that are of the highest quality

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because there's no dividend uh there's

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no taxation on dividends so if you

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notice that if you're investing in

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Singapore listed reads in the last one

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week or so there's been pretty good

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Rebound in these reads so I continue to

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hold these reads and I think they're

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still very attractive with very nice

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dividend yield and while our interest

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from the bank is going to start coming

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down it is a good time to lock in some

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of these higher rates in these high

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quality reats but again remember in

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Singapore there are over 40 reads and

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out of the 40 reads I would only say

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that probably five or six are of high

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quality that I would dare to invest in

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the rest of them I wouldn't dare to

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touch them right so be very careful only

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invest in a high quality reads now you

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can Al of course invest in US REITs as

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well but I don't because I don't like to

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pay the 30% withholding tax and of

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course if you don't know which reats to

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choose you can look at the re ETF

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example will be S chh and as you can see

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the S chh the uh re ETF uh schwar re ETF

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that has been rebounding as well you can

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see this was obviously a downtrend uh

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when rates were going up reats were

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suffering because of the high leverage

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of reats right you can see was waving

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down waving down waving down waving down

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downtrend now it's reversing up where

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it's making higher highs and higher lows

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you got to wave up you got to wave down

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you got to wave up as you guys know I

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never like to buy after a wave up I like

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to wait for the next wave down before

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adding more to catch the next wave up so

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don't chase it although the new trend

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may be an up up Trend but don't chase it

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at the top of the uptrend wait for a

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retracement to kind of like add a new

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position to that right now the other

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asset that will benefit from lower rates

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is obviously small to mediumsized

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companies so small to midcut companies

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which is measured by the Russell 2000

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Index as you guys know that has been

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underperforming in the last two to three

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years because of high rates now rates

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are coming down small to mediumsized

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companies should be rebounding now

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personally I don't comfortable investing

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in in individual small to mediumsized

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companies because they tend to not have

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very strong economic modes they tend to

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be less predictable and they tend to

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have a bit higher debt but I do have a

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position in the ETF to catch their

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rebound as rates come down so there are

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two things you can look at one would be

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the iwm which is the Russell 2000 ETF as

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you can see that has been consolidate

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consolidating in this range right

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this range here and it broke up so wave

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up wave down wave up wave down wave up

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wave down wave up so it's beginning to

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catch into a new uh uptrend all right so

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I didn't buy this one I bought the

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cousin of this one which is the small

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cap growth ETF ticker symbol vbk I've

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been holding this for a couple of months

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and again you can see it's now on this

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uh new uptrend after going through a

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crash with high rates now rates coming

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down you can see wave up wave down wave

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up wave down wave up wave down added

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more here now waving back up so that's

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the vbk small cap growth ETF next

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beneficiary of lower rates dividend

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stocks why you see people who buy

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dividend stocks they're looking for

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dividend yield they're looking for

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income and the last two and a half years

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they say you know what I don't need

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dividend stocks which have some risk

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they put their money into money market

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fund because money market funds which

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invest into certificates of deposits

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time deposits and short-term bonds

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they've been offering very good interest

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rates and that's why you can see that in

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the last two and a half years money

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market funds have reached a record high

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where they're now sitting at $6.24

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trillion so that's $6 trillion of money

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pared into these money market funds

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earning very nice uh 4.8% to 5% interest

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rates but that is now coming to an end

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so once the FED starts cutting rates

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people who have been in these funds are

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getting less interest less interest

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until they feel that is no longer worth

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it to stay in these funds they would

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sell these money market funds and rotate

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back into the dividend stocks where they

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can get a higher dividend yield plus the

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prospect of dividend growth because

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money market funds there's no growth

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right it's just a fixed interest rates

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but dividend stocks you have got

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dividend growth but of course you have

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to pick the good dividend stocks with

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pretty good growth so again there are

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many examples and some examples would be

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your Pepsi which I own uh Johnson and

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Johnson Pro and gamble ADP Abott

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Laboratories uh abbv Walmart and lows

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these are your dividend

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stocks

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finally as rates come down uh you'll

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have bond prices going up so those of

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you who have been subscribing to my

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ultimate investors Playbook you will

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know that I've taken long positions in

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the bond ETFs uh using options using

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synthetic bullish spread options so I

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have gone long onto TLT and that's doing

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very well right now I'm up quite a bit

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but I'm still holding because I think

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there's a lot more upside besides the

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TLT which is the long-term treasury born

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ETF you can look at the medium-term bond

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ETF called the II as well as the

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corporate bond ETF l L QD so again

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interest rates go down these Bond ETFs

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will continue to go up in price over

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here you can see the TLT on weekly

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candles you can see it was on this

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downtrend facing resistance at the 50

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moving average where hit it went down it

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hit it went down and recently it broke

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above that 50 moving average now on this

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very nice Trend back up so I went long

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somewhere around there and then of of

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course you can look at the iei as well

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which is the midterm treasury born ETF

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and again you can see the same thing you

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can see this is the new trend over there

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know wave up wave down wave up may have

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a bit of a pullback before uh waving up

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again this is as rates come down and

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finally looking at the

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lqd which is the corporate Bor

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ETF uh that should uh continue coming

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down as well sorry going up as well as r

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come down and again you can see this was

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a consolidation and it started breaking

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Above This consolidation so we should

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see higher prices from here so that

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summarizes this video I hope it's been

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Interactive Summary

This video discusses the implications of the Federal Reserve's upcoming decision to cut interest rates in September. The presenter analyzes how rate changes affect the economy and the stock market, addressing fears of a recession and debunking the myth that rate cuts inherently lead to market crashes. It highlights that market performance is primarily driven by corporate earnings rather than rate changes alone. Furthermore, the video identifies specific sectors and asset classes—such as highly leveraged businesses, real estate (including REITs), small-cap stocks, dividend-paying companies, and bonds—that are expected to benefit as interest rates begin to decline.

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