The US government has banned Chinese

humanoid robots. US is banning new

imports of foreign made humanoid robots,

quadruped robots, robot dogs, you might

know them by.

Very controversial based on we got to

get General Catalyst to weigh in on this

cuz aren't they anti-robot dog? Wasn't

that the whole thing of the video? Maybe

I'm misremembering. So they must be

celebrating.

>> platform VCs are pro

robot dogs.

>> Everyone should be pro robot dog.

Anyway,

it's there's nothing wrong with a robot

dog unless it's a geopolitical

discussion and then there's another

another layer to the debate.

So the Federal Communications

Commission's FCC today announced some

restrictions and these apply to new

versions of those products. FCC chair

Brendan Carr said the move is intended

to quote secure America's critical

supply chains. China meanwhile has

condemned the decision as protectionism.

Is that because they're protecting the

the small children from getting smacked

in the face by the humanoid robots?

It is protectionism.

>> I know that video I think that you're

referring to.

>> Yeah, brutal.

>> Absolutely brutal. We should try to pull

it up. Try to find the humanoid kicking

a child, please.

Sounds wrong but I just want to get at

the truth.

>> Yes.

>> I just want the truth.

>> The move comes as Chinese companies have

established a commanding lead in

humanoid robot robotics. Of the roughly

15,000 humanoid robots shipped worldwide

in 2025, China's Unitree and

Agibot AGI bot, I'm not sure how you

pronounce that, each delivered

>> Okay, we have the video of the robot

kicking the child.

>> Oof, brutal. There's another one where

he's spinning around and gives him sort

of like a spinning back fist but that is

a crazy and

>> That is

>> Seeing that you're kind of like yeah, I

would I'm up for some protection.

>> Gross negligence.

>> If it's going to

if it's going to protect children, I

think it's maybe in the best interest.

Now, that's not why this is happening,

of course.

So, 5,000 units were delivered from

from

each Unitree and Agibot. By comparison,

US companies including Tesla and Figure

shipped only a few hundred robots each

if that. China is also estimated to

control about 85% of the global humanoid

robotics market and also a ton of the

deep supply chain, obviously. According

to the the Associated Press, the

restrictions are expected to add new

tension to US-China relations ahead of a

planned September meeting between

Chinese President Xi Jinping and US

President Donald Trump. The FCC argues

the measures are necessary to reduce

potential risks poised posed by

connected foreign-made devices that

could become part of critical American

infrastructure.

What's interesting here is that we're

seeing a ban on a Chinese technology

that is

so nascent that you don't have a

coalition of companies that are saying,

"Whoa, whoa, whoa. I've deployed. My

business is built on top of Unitree. I

know there's geopolitical

considerations, but I can't make the

cars that I make without them. I can't

run my business without them, and so

this is going to hurt me." No one's

really stepping up in the same way that

they are with Chinese LLMs, which a lot

of companies are like, "No, I'm actually

going to cut my inference cost by 80% if

I can

>> And you have all of the the various

cloud businesses that are already making

money

>> making money from them. Exactly.

>> Yeah, I'm I'm I saw a bunch of people

that were sort of

saying that they didn't like this, that

it was, you know, protectionist and and

that there must have been some American

humanoid or robotics companies that were

pushing lobbying for this in DC. Maybe

there were, but I personally don't want

100 million

humanoid robots in this country running

around that that not made by a US

company. Or at least a Western ally.

>> Yeah. Where since there's been the DJI

ban, there's been various surveillance

uh tools that are banned, but there's

still so many different uh pieces of

technology from that come from all over

the world. Um I wonder where people

would like to draw the line generally on

technology. Like is it okay if the Wi-Fi

router is made internationally?

>> Well, we drew the line on Huawei.

>> Yeah, on Huawei on the 5G tower

specifically, but most you can still get

a router that you know, a Wi-Fi router

for your house that comes from China. Um

and you have to imagine that many of the

actuators, the motors, the batteries,

CATL cattle that company ships batteries

for all sorts of stuff. The the Google

Waymo approach I think is probably the

correct like finding the line. So Waymo

is sourcing like almost all the parts

for the new Waymos from China, but they

are building them I believe in the

United States and all of the software is

from Google or Alphabet or Waymo. And so

you have to imagine that they're able to

tear all these pieces down and sort of

maintain their own cybersecurity

posture, which is really what this is

all about. But uh it is interesting. Do

you think this actually accelerates the

American humanoid market?

>> I mean these companies have already

raised a lot of money. Elon's putting

billions into it.

>> Yeah.

>> Figures managed to raise billions.

Uh I think that the first thing that we

need is profitable use cases for

humanoids.

Uh and so

I think there's a lot of work that the

industry needs to do to make these to

make these products like genuinely

valuable in the home, in workplaces, in

factory settings, all these things. Uh I

think that's a bigger problem. I think

if you

uh it does feel inevitable at this point

just because there's so much money going

into it, so many smart people dedicating

all their time to it. It feels

inevitable. Maybe it speeds it up a

little bit. It just felt like we were

going to end up in a situation where

they would just continue to dump

humanoids

onto our you know, you could buy

you probably still can buy Unitree robot

on Walmart.

>> I was asking Tyler about this because

you used to be able to buy a Unitree G1

I believe or one of their robots on

Walmart which was sort of crazy and the

price was accessible. I mean it was

still tens of thousands of dollars but

it was something that a research lab

could buy pretty easily. I wonder if

there will be other ways for companies

to to get access to uh this task these

products at least for benchmarking

because they will be competing

internationally like even in a world

where you know, Tesla

gets to the frontier of humanoid robots

with Optimus and then they're going up

against um

uh and a a Unitree

>> Yeah.

>> for

uh a deployment in Germany like BYD,

right? BYD and Tesla compete

internationally even though Tesla's

Tesla's can still be sold in in China

but not vice versa. Um

but uh internationally there needs to be

a lot of like what are the capabilities

so you can actually sell against your

competitor.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh even if you're

>> So far everything Unitree I'm seeing on

Walmart is out of stock. So I don't know

if they just marked it out of stock when

this went live or they had just sold

out.

>> This will probably spike if they hit

cars and bids or bring a trailer. I

think you throw a Unitree G1 last

edition final edition banned can't buy

them anymore.

>> bots and bids?

>> Bots and bids. [laughter] That might be

it. I was listening to to Elon Musk on

uh the Economist. He sat down with the

Economist for a long form interview.

There were there was a clip that went

sort of viral for some some sharp jabs

back and forth about the media and and

how the public perceives the media but

the much more interesting substance was

about his vision.

>> the crash out.

>> Yes, it was it was described as a crash

out but that seemed like a very small

section of what was actually interesting

about the more than an hour they talked.

Uh

one was um I mean he talks about

humanoid robots and he paints a very

clear vision for the Optimus program and

it made me

really hope that there's a lot of focus

there because that feels like an

industry where like he obviously has a

very strong philosophy around XAI and

Grok and you saw it in the SpaceX X S1

where the market for enterprise software

was like 22 trillion or something like

that. And so

there is some value there. It might make

sense from a business perspective, but

it was

less inspiring than rockets, less

inspiring than self-driving electric

cars because you as you go back you

think about SpaceX and you think if he

hadn't worked on that probably wouldn't

have a rocket company in America. And

same thing with the electric cars like

yeah, GM had the EV1. There were a

couple other companies that were sort of

like

testing things, but we'd probably be 10

years behind if he hadn't sort of like

sheer force of willed that into

existence. And it feels the same for

humanoid robots where if he can really

go and push that extremely hard and

marshal all the capital and do all the

difficult things to build the supply

chain, make it happen, make it work, you

you can get to a place where there is

a national champion in America, but if

if Grok stopped training and there were

no more XAI LLMs like there would still

be a massive competition between OpenAI,

Anthropic, Meta, Google. Like there's

plenty of really well-funded

hyperscalers and leading labs that are

going to provide that service of like

ask a question and get an answer or fire

off a prompt and get some code back. Um

that that that the the the American

humanoid robotics industry feels much

more fragile in the sense that if you

don't have this massive hammer of

capital and will coming to bear, you

could just wind up with it never

happening, which I worry about.

>> Yeah, and America needs to figure out

how to make billions of robots.

>> Mhm.

>> Itself.

>> I do wonder how this is going to play

into all the other discussions that are

going to happen at that US visit by

Chinese leader Xi Jinping. He's

scheduled to meet with US President

Donald Trump in September. Um

I'm I'm interested to see are they going

to be doing

>> uh can you see if we can possibly get

him on the show?

>> [laughter]

>> What if she was just like, "Yeah, I'm

meeting with the president, but I'm also

going on a 50 podcast tour while I'm

here."

>> Get him on Yeah. There's a bunch of good

shows he could he could do. Uh he should

do

>> Modern Wisdom. I want to understand his

mindset.

>> great. I'd love him to I'd love to see

him on Hot Ones.

>> Joe Rogan, of course. I mean

>> That should be kind of the

the last show.

>> But Nelk would be like the obvious his

choice.

>> Yeah.

>> A lot of world leaders

>> have a history of

>> World leaders have been on there. That's

true.

>> Controversial world leaders.

>> That's true. Why not Xi Jinping? Dean

Ball's going back and forth with Will

Maniatis. Uh Dean says, "Do we think the

Silicon Valley leaders who were so up in

arms about using Chinese LLMs last week

will be similarly outraged about the US

government's decision to ban import of

all advanced robotics from all foreign

countries? Is Maniatis going to write an

essay about how the US robot companies

need to be nationalized in exchange for

this policy favor?" Will says, "You're

welcome to tag me if you want a take."

What's your take? He does ask him for

it. And Will says, "Dean seems to not

understand that the FCC is issuing a

published rule under statutory authority

with a waiver process and judicial

review is different than a thinly veiled

suggestion that regulators carry out an

extra-legal whisper campaign to protect

the interests of his employer. The

robotics companies need not be

nationalized until they also ask for

public infrastructure preemption federal

backstop of their debt and a sweep swept

market just so they can call themselves

national institutions. When they do send

them my essay and Dean Ball says so wait

if the US straight up and Chinese LMS

using explicit statutory authorities EG

supply chain risk that wouldn't

necessitate lab nationalization but

doing it through soft law would what

your instance

that my analytic prediction was a thinly

veiled suggestion continues to be bad

faith. I wonder

I do wonder if we'll just see more you

know figure shows up in those secondary

demand tables. I wonder if this is

bullish for that. I don't know. I I I

one act just seems to be on a good path

Sunday robotics just seems to be on a

good path. We've talked to a lot of

other companies where the the regulatory

and competitive landscape has always it

hasn't seemed like it's a driver of

financing right? It's not like oh you're

waiting for approval or you're waiting

for some some rule to break. It's like

Yeah, at some point in the future

America's going to want an indigenous

like you know robotic supply chain.

>> Yeah, the compelling teams have raised

anywhere from a hundred million dollars

to billions of dollars.

And now they need to effectively deploy

that and get

commercial use cases starting to ramp

and then I expect them to be able to

raise an order of magnitude more capital

each right? So I don't again I don't

think capital is really a constraint

here

but I think they've raised their sort of

like they've raised their like five

rounds let's say.

>> Yeah, yeah.

Mark Zuckerberg is in the Wall Street

Journal. Paywalled you got to pay to

read what Mark has to say but he penned

an op-ed and he says the US should

accelerate AI development not

restricted. He says the the AI future is

for everyone.

There's some interesting quotes in here.

He's taking shots. He's taking shots at

doom fear-based marketing. He says it is

surprising that the discourse from many

of those who are developing artificial

intelligence is so filled with doom. I

don't understand why anyone who believes

that AI will eliminate most jobs and

much of humanity's relevance would rush

to build that future. The only the

notion that AI is so dangerous that the

only safe path is an extreme con-

concentration of power seems dangerous.

Historically, hoping that an absolute

power will benevolently provide for

humanity if sufficiently enlightened

>> Is he talking about machines of love and

grace?

>> I think so. Something like that. Hasn't

led to safer positive outcomes. Humanity

has witnessed many transformative

advances. Each time there is fear that

people will be left behind, but each

time humanity has come out with more

people sharing greater prosperity,

health, and freedom. We believe this

will be true with AI as well, and the

abundance of the future can be shared by

everyone. He's abundance pilled. Um And

so, I think it's good to sort of reset,

you know, where he is. He's been He's

been He's talked about AI a bunch, but

it's never been like right on the cusp,

but he's just like throwing his hat

firmly in this camp of, you know, he's

he's he's obviously playing in AI, but

has a particularly positive vision, um

and he's sort of throwing down the

gauntlet. If you think If you think AI

is so bad then stop working and and let

[laughter] me let me work on it.

>> cook.

>> I don't know. Um but not too much

like chatter around this. Um it did

stand in in opposition. You know, he's

saying you the United States should

accelerate AI development. At the same

time there's this open letter from a

bunch of lab employees saying like,

"Hey, maybe we should do a mutual pause.

Maybe we should all slow down." And uh I

I think even some meta researchers

signed that as well, but there's like a

wide group from uh OpenAI, Anthropic, a

bunch of other firms, Google, uh that

all signed. Uh John Palmer, of course,

uh

ever the TVP and promoter says TVP and

must publish an open letter against

distillation after their model was

distilled by every competitor in the

industry. And I said, "I'm advocating

for a complete and total podcast ban,

multi-federal year multi-year federal

approval process for new RSS feeds to

get issued." Uh

Uh he says, "Better hurry up and write

that open letter before Chinese

technology network launches." I think a

Chinese TVP and would actually be

electric. I think that'd be amazing.

>> to watch.

>> love that. Uh

you know, just wildly different. They

just don't do the going direct thing

over there the same way. You know, there

was like the Deep Seek Investor Meeting

4 hours that was like leaked. That's not

the same as actually sitting down with

someone that has a particular point of

view.

>> down with a stack of 200 posts and just

chit-chatting.

>> I don't know. Maybe it does exist, but

uh when Dwarkesh went to China,

>> [laughter]

>> it was such a funny observation. He had

a bunch of observations, but the one

that really stuck out to me was he was

like, "I asked everyone,

and I and it is clear, China does not

have a Joe Rogan." Like they don't have

someone who is like a larger-than-life

yapper, political commentator, just like

a guy who talks about everything

including politics. Uh and there's a

political reasons for that, but it's

also maybe cultural, and it's just

interesting because the demand for that

would be electric. I I feel like you

have to uh you have to imagine that like

Joe Rogan clips make their way around

the world and are sort of like a

barometer for where the American psyche

is at in a certain in a certain way,

like a certain group of of Americans um

feel that way. There's this other post

uh that's sort of interesting to see

where the Anthropic back and forth on

the open letter goes. Obviously,

Anthropic uh clarified their stance on

open source, not advocating for a

complete and total ban, but they're very

worried about distillation, they're very

worried about cybersecurity, and they're

very worried about authoritarian uses of

AI. All good points. Chetan over at

Benchmark says Anthropic very publicly

claiming there needs to be a crackdown

on distillation is puzzling. It's a $1

trillion company with incredible

resources and the distillation attacks

at the scale they describe would seem

easy to detect. I don't know how easy

they are to detect. I think the people

you know, harness up a whole bunch of

different VPNs and stuff. But at the

same time, it's like it's an AI company.

Put AI on the job, maybe you should be

able to detect it. So, we'll take his

point. But he says

>> be able to find a needle in the biggest

haystack of all [laughter] time.

>> Yeah. [clears throat]

>> The world's largest haystack.

>> benchmark. But he says the only cost

would be giving up the associated API

revenue. So, you should have a very

aggressive

a very aggressive internal policy around

if you're suspected of a distillation

attack, you're kicked off the API. Of

course, in a very short amount of time,

you can fire off a lot of prompts and

get a lot of tokens. And you can do that

a lot of around across all across a lot

of different accounts. What what do you

think about this?

>> Yeah, I mean,

um

detecting distillation seems like a very

hard problem. If I think if it was

trivial, they would have just done it.

>> Yeah, of course.

>> And also seems like it's not that big of

a like percentage of the revenue. Like

I'd be surprised if if like distillation

attacks accounted for a large amount of

of like

>> Yeah, I don't I don't think it I don't

think it's meaningful.

>> Also, so it does it does feel like it's

hard um

because a lot of it doesn't actually go

through the direct API necessarily. Like

it goes through a a company that is

vending a service and then someone is

prompting that service and so you're

further obfuscating it. Like there are a

number of different sort of wrappers

that effectively wrap various Frontier

APIs and and if you're getting hit

in a bunch of different you're blending

all of that together, you're looking at

open-source stuff. There's also just

people that will

like this just happened with

uh was it Matt Schumer? He He basically

uploaded to GitHub a game that he made

with Opus 5 along with the prompt. And

so you you can sort of distill on that

like it's only one data point or you

know

you know a small bag of tokens, but

there's a lot of people that will share

a prompt and the actual output. And so

you can train on that and there's no way

to detect that you found that. What's

interesting here is that the knock-on

effect of Chetan's point is that if

Anthropic takes Chetan's advice, you

wind up giving out the model less

frequently and being more closed about

it, which is something 3 months ago

everyone in the ecosystem was like this

is annoying. Like I'm a small startup. I

can't get into the mythos tier. I can't

get access to project Glasswing. I'm not

an enterprise level

you know customer. But I still So I just

don't get frontier intelligence and I

just get steamrolled by you know

Microsoft who has access to it or Apple

who has access to it or whatever. Um

and so this the whole idea of like if

the if if a

amazing intelligence and amazing model

is made, should it be widely available?

That's actually at odds with

distillation because you have to hunt

those bad actors down and you play this

whack-a-mole. So I don't know. It is it

is tricky. We'll see we'll see where it

goes. We'll see where it goes. Anyway.

>> Apparently over on Facebook Marketplace

people are adding a a sort of gold aura

to their listings. Would this make you

more likely to buy, John?

>> Ooh, it does look like a rare drop.

>> Yeah. [laughter] And

for only $25 picking up this table with

that

level of aura certainly tempting.

>> I it does make me like it more. I think

it actually works. I've seen people do

this where they add they'll add like a

woman to it as like the salesperson

basically with AI and that draws more

attention on Facebook Marketplace. I

don't know if I've ever bought anything

on Facebook Marketplace, but maybe

maybe we should try and

have Tyler do like a trade a trade a

paperclip into a car challenge. Have you

ever seen these? Ryan Trahan and there's

>> Tyler would be exceptional at that kind

of thing.

>> You think you could You think you could

trade up from something on your desk?

>> this would definitely help it.

>> Yeah.

>> Giving it some kind of something.

>> basically you have to look for the most

unoptimized listings that are

undervalued and then trade and then once

you buy them

give them the ultimate glow up on

uh on uh with AI images, put them back

up for higher price

in increase your margin, start printing.

This is a very Gary V hustle, for sure.

>> [snorts]

>> Um

>> pretty incredible story. eBay pays

couple fix $56 million

for its role in cockroach harassment

campaign.

>> That is a crazy headline. It's

>> received threatening deliveries

including funeral wreaths after

criticizing the e-commerce retailer in a

blog. So this couple, David and Inna

Steiner, were harassed, it sounds like,

for years for criticising criticizing

eBay. Who knew that criticizing eBay

could get you uh in this much trouble.

Of course, it's eBay that ended up

getting in trouble.

Um but uh

>> So they had an online e-commerce blog

called e-commerce bites and they

criticized eBay uh on that and then back

in 2019, so this has been going on for

like 7 years. There's a whole new

executive team in in in place now, but

there were actually criminal charges in

2020. Seven employees of the company

were sentenced to prison terms ranging

between 1 and 5 years.

>> And so what were they doing?

Uh eBay leadership apparently mailed a

series of threatening deliveries to the

Steiners' home in 2019.

>> That's crazy.

>> So including a box of live cockroaches,

a bloody pig's head mask. I don't even

know what that is. Is this a real pig

head that's been turned into a mask or

is it hopefully just a a sort of a

Hollywood remake of that? And a funeral

wreath, the Steiners also accuse

executives of online harassment

including online posts inviting

strangers to their house for sex.

>> Also

>> Absolutely insane. Who like

in what in what world is is a company is

a public company like eBay just getting

some criticism which all companies do

[laughter]

>> Yeah, yeah, it's like I'm sorry

>> takes it this personally that you're

going to try to ruin the lives of two

people that are already in your in your

industry and just like

>> of e-commerce bites blogs showing up in

your quarterly reports? Like was it

actually that damaging?

>> eBay pleaded guilty in 2023 in a

criminal case over harassment and paid a

$3 million penalty following criminal

charges in 2027 employees of the

companies were sentenced to prison terms

ranging from 1 to 5 years.

>> It's absolutely brutal.

>> According to court documents eBay

executives grew increasingly upset by

the Steiners critical coverage of the

company in early 2019 leading then

executive

Devin Wenig to test to text another

executive that it was time to crush

the Steiners and take her down referring

to

Ina. That summer harassment against the

Steiners escalated from threatening

messages to delivering items to their

home which also included a book about

surviving spousal bereavement.

>> like sort of a death threat I guess.

>> Yeah.

>> Right.

What's

>> Uh also sending

uh

adult magazines to neighbors homes in

the husband's name. So just like

completely trying to destroy this

couple's

life and and uh marriage. eBay employees

also traveled to Massachusetts to

vandalize the Steiners home and stalk

them around their hometown.

All the employees involved in the

harassment were fired in September 2019,

eBay said.

Uh

the lawsuit was actually started in

2021. Under the settlement, so we have a

we have a good ending here. I think it's

a fair ending. [laughter]

Under the settlement, the couple will

receive 48 million

>> Okay.

>> compensation from eBay and former

employees. eBay will also pay 6 million

to charitable charitable organizations.

>> That's good.

>> And Wenig will pay 1 million to a free

speech charity in Ina Steiner's name.

>> This is like the ultimate Streisand

effect. I never would have heard about

e-commerce bytes or their criticism of

eBay if they hadn't done all this. What

a mess.

>> e-commerce bytes

>> I'm I'm looking up exactly what they

said because eBay is,

in my opinion, just the most set it and

forget it company that's just had the

same service for 20 years, basically.

>> Well.

>> But now we're going to get to the bottom

of it. Big news out of the Fed.

Uh the Fed holds rate steady, but three

officials voted for a rate increase. The

rate has been unchanged in in this July

meeting. Uh the split shows pressure

building inside the central bank to act

on inflation two months after Chairman

Kevin Warsh took over, and the Dow skids

1,100

points as investors worry about Fed next

steps. They're thinking that there might

be a rate hike in the uh in reaction to

inflation, of course, uh somewhat driven

by energy prices, oil prices. Oil is

spiking again. And so, lots of tricky

news for the uh global economy, but

fortunately, the economy chugs on, and

the economy is strong. So,

>> I believe in it.

>> I believe in it, too. Never never black

pill. Dwar Kesh Patel certainly not

black pilling. Gavin Baker uh quote

tweeted Dwar Kesh's uh po- post that

predicted uh lab revenues in the

trillions very shortly. Uh Gavin Baker

says, "I see a

a series of fairly wild thoughts from

Dwarkesh.

I thought I was bullish, but even I am

not assuming that the price of to rent

compute continues to go up. I will say

that I am in Silicon Valley this week

and Dwarkesh is capturing the zeitgeist.

Net net, public markets would probably

be trading differently if they saw the

OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok cursor, and open

source numbers over the last 6 weeks

because everything is growing even in

you you there's so much horse race

around oh, open source is going to come

and grow and it's like, well, sometimes

open source comes and grows and

everything else grows, too. And that's

what we've seen uh, throughout the whole

deep seek saga when the lab revenues

grew a ton even though open source was

big.

>> Yeah, there's a comment here that I

think is on the nose.

>> Please.

>> J Capital says, "Timeline is very

interesting. All private AI companies

have their best 6 weeks while retail AI

/ semis have their worst 6 weeks."

>> Very, very interesting.

>> So, disconnect there.

>> Yeah. I mean, one of them uh, uh, SK

Hynix uh, 64 billion dollars in

quarterly profit was a disappointment

for chip investors and SK Hynix fell 10%

despite record results powered by the AI

boom. The the the profit increase was

incredible. I think they uh, the they

they grew profit over 500% something

like that. Uh, and still the stock

traded down because expectations are so

high, everything's priced to perfection.

Uh, in other news, HBO Max is launching

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already happening on Instagram and

TikTok. Uh, you see a lot of movie

clips, just great moments, and it

actually is great content, so I can

understand why they're trying to own a

piece of that.

>> You got to get the Jeffrey Katzenberg

apology form circulated.

>> for sure. Yeah, for sure. Uh,

but yeah, uh, High Yield Harry captures

it pretty well. Watching society become

too cooked even to watch TV episode. And

this is from Idiocracy, Mike Judge's

uh, one of his best works. The creator

of Sil- HBO Silicon Valley actually. Who

will now be available in short form

because you will be able to watch short

clips from uh, from HBO Silicon Valley

on HBO Max Shorts. And sign up for our

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