Fixing the American Dream with Andrew Schulz
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do boys thank you for having me Schultz
pleasure you just you go a you're on a
heater right now you took time to come
on the all-in Pod thank you for doing
that of course your Netflix special yes
is crushing it top 10 around the world
it's called life l i pretty cool it's
about your low sperm tell us yeah I I am
the face of
sperm so which that's kind of like crazy
because you've got a mustache of a 70s
porn star how is I think I'm
overcompensating you know I think I got
to trick people with the stash but in
reality yeah yeah the balls you're
firing blanks dude just pure it's bad
yeah it's h this special is so good this
special thank you for watching man I
appreciate it we all watched it we it's
hilarious and um you got three old guys
here who also have had to deal with some
of these issues we've all had you guys
have IVF you guys do IVF for the babies
chamat do you want to be honest here or
you are you on natural did you hit the
three from hefc Court logo shot what
happened my first four kids were natural
my fifth was IVF okay yeah I don't think
we're surprised there's like two billion
of you guys you know it it's it's easy
to get the job done bro you know there
was a there was a period there was a
period after the Facebook IPO I swear to
God I would look at chicks on Instagram
and get him pregnant it was really it
was brutal are they coming to collect
hope not how many settlements you got
your how many ndas uh all right freeberg
like yeah we're off to a hot start here
freeberg you look like you have a low
sperm count but you have a fourth kit on
the way but uh apparently what's the
story are you own natural this is for
the first time ever nobody knew this
breaking news freeberg own natural with
your 3.5 babies
100% 100% wow a vegan who's shooting
with a sniper rifle I love I don't
believe it I don't believe it I'll find
you guys a great study about veganism
and libido is that right yeah very
impressive what does it do reduce the
woman's exactly
exactly oh my God I know a place with
the best roast
cauliflower let your winners
ride Rainman
David and inste we open sourc it to the
fans and they've just gone crazy with
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iten by the way can I just tell you how
much I hate cauliflower everywhere I go
that is the dish I had it for dinner
last night main course yeah it's the
main
course La except it's disgusting there's
two things they offer you portabello
mushroom and roasted cauliflower that's
what Sean does every time you show up at
the house are you are you a impossible
meat guy no I don't like that stuff it's
gross not for me okay okay yeah by the
way want to hear a quick science corner
so you know how we talked about yamanaka
factors there's a roaring
yes wow he's like yeah I don't care Andy
this is anyway sure let me let me let me
hit this real quick because I know we're
never goingon to get to it because you
guys just [ __ ] around talking about
politics science talk
Shel usit us you know how you can use
yanaka factors we talked about these to
basically turn a cell into a stem cell
right of course what goes on the lab
Andrew you're familiar with the yamanaka
everybody knows about the yamanaka
factors you've been all over it for a
while dude I've seen squid game yeah
absolutely now there's you think I don't
know about the yamanaka factor come
we're not gonna get I can tell you we're
not yamanaka Factor everybody knows you
didn't visit the yamanaka factory when
you were in Koto I went to the yamanaka
factory and I swear to God I guy showed
up 15 minutes late and he stabbed
himself in the stomach right there right
there he killed himself right there yeah
it's called s exactly s Soko in under a
minute okay never mind we'll come back
to
theal so the interesting work going on
right now is you basically can take any
cell from a person's body turn it into a
stem cell and then turn that stem cell
ultimately into an egg cell so you no
longer need to go Harvest eggs and so
you don't need to actually go get the
eggs from the woman you can make eggs
from skin cells for example so in the
next couple of years there's you know
there's a few little technical
breakthroughs that are happening right
now that will enable this where F
fertility clinics may end up just taking
a little bit of your skin cell creating
stem cells creating egg cells and that's
how we're going to end up doing IVF in
the future at any age so you can make
eggs at any age and you can ultimately
produce Offspring at any age you don't
need to actually have active healthy
eggs and this you like that one right
fantastic because this is a work around
for the people that are trying to uh ban
IVF because of the abortion protocol
they're Bas because they basically light
Bel uh begins a conception is part of
their belief right but and the idea you
could take one egg cell you could take
one SP make a fered egg yeah but those
people don't know but like what you do
with IVF is you try to harvest as many
as you possibly can because not all of
them are viable and it's a pretty brutal
process for the woman to go through but
if you could just grab something from
the skin you'd have almost unlimited
when a woman is born she has all her
eggs in her body and as she ages those
eggs get depleted and eventually she
doesn't have very good viable eggs left
over so this gets around that problem of
not having viable eggs we can be very
selective about the eggs and so there's
a future here in the next couple of
years where fertility becomes a simpler
hopefully easier and more widely
available service than it is today where
it's really challenging technically and
you've got to go do something that's
invasive and you know you've got to hope
that there's good healthy eggs and
there's a good number of eggs and so on
and so forth so really interesting
awesome this is awesome SCH did they sit
you down and give you like the embryos
that that were viable in the grades and
the gender and you pick one and what did
you pick we just pick the best so this
is a lot of pressure on that first one
like all the other kids afterwards I
feel like don't have as much yeah come
out of the gate strong have a good first
quarter and then whatever 100% it's all
good so I gotta ask you wait you didn't
say if you had I was about to I'm about
to put it out there I didn't have IVF
okay but the first time we had the first
kid wife says hey we're ovul I'm
ovulating I said put me in the game boom
first shot half court logo pregnant wow
bang then she says I want to wait before
I have the next one you know it's a
little traumatic to have a kid and she
waits six years then we try for a year
nothing for one year so now I'm like man
we waited too long it's a lot of
pressure you you talk about this in the
special it's like for women this is
anxiety producing so she's like you you
got to go get checked out and this is
when the most humiliating day of my life
occurred I don't know Andy what what it
was like when you went but uh they found
all these grifters can they can they
identify grifters through the microscope
no no no I walk in and the thing opens
and there's three women at the counter
at at the reception and they're like hey
Jason calacanis you're here to give a
you know to and I'm like yeah I
am and then they walk you to a room oh
that's the spookiest thing yeah yeah
they walk you to a room and then they
open it up and it's like some nightmare
scenario where there's a Motel Eight
room and there's a couch that's about
three feet three feet wide and there's a
towel on it and there's a towel on it
and that sofa is not cloth for a reason
no it needs to be cleanable it needs
to fact looks very much like the hotel
you're in shelsea I don't know what's
going on with the Netflix budget why
think maybe they could put you in the
Four Seasons or the peninsula it's so
brutal so you did this right you had go
the grainy television with the porn it's
like oh you're lucky you got the TV I
had I went to the phone I went to the
phone I I had no nothing I didn't even
have have any service in there which was
like another thing that was it was
annoying so what did you do you roll
itex it no spank bank you have to go
that's what I'm talking about the
Rolodex you roll through all the
memories think about the memories man of
my wife and only my wife nobody else
that's was all those great moments with
your wife all those great moments maybe
there was accidentally one or two that
got left in from when you were on the
road it's possible some like absolute
would jump into the dreams that I had
with my wife that might be possible I
would never want them to be there but
obviously now it's the director's C
there's nothing I could do but yeah it's
it is also funny how like we dramatize
our experience we got the easiest thing
to do in the whole thing we just got to
go into a room and jerk off as if that's
hard for us but we're like the room is
destitute and brutalist and the the
furniture was
uncomfortable you
speaking of jerk offs uh yeah speaking
of jerk offs Kavin new's got a podcast
this is uh so I think that this is like
this is a great idea despite what you
think about his politics is he a plastic
bag in the wind yes but it is a great
demonstration of like how Americans
admire bravery or courage and we don't
like [ __ ] and I think that's what the
Democrats kind of displayed in the last
I don't want to get too political about
this like no right your opinion one
man's opin it's more just like I I
respond just culturally I don't give a
about the tribalism and politics but
I'll just be honest with you so having
him have like Charlie Kirk right there
who's like a professional arguer that he
is whatever you know how like some
people are like autistic for dinosaurs
he's that for arguing right and to like
sit across from him to even address The
French
Laundry I was like okay this is actually
the right thing thing to do so as as as
easy as it is for us to sit here and go
okay this guy want just wants to be
president like this is a dumb thing like
blah blah blah it's actually what the
Democrats should be doing so I think we
need to
reward I think we need to reward this
Behavior we want more conversation we
want conversation with people especially
that like you may disagree with and like
the second podcast he put out I thought
was the most impactful there was one
piece that was incredibly impactful he's
talking to some guy I don't know who he
was some guy grew up in like San
Francisco he's
like you know he was talking about the
taxes and like he's paying all this
money in taxes in California and what
does he get from it and then Newsome
said that like yeah rich people are
going to pay more but your actual like
functional tax rate if you're middle
class would be more if you lived in
Florida because of the other stuff you
get taxed
on this is the type of information that
like you guys might be privy to but the
average person doesn't they hop on an
inter like being human and addressing
real issues instead of like culture War
issues and just talking like I think
he's going culture War like that's
culture War but he's actually putting
out valuable information that defends
the positions he may have taken in
government that the average person
doesn't really know like the average
person like me just goes all right I'm
in New York I'm getting clipped at 50%
and 5% city tax like I'm getting crushed
but if I lived in Florida or Texas I'd
save 133% and it be a complete wash when
there might be someone making 50 Grand a
year and they move from California to
Texas and they lose money and they don't
know that because they're just listening
to Rich guys on podcast talk about how
much money they save when they move to
Texas well you don't have to take a shot
at us but yeah okay A little personal I
moved to Texas this year it's more of a
shot at me and freeberg but go okay uh
Cham your thoughts on Gavin's new
podcast what do you think you you know
you were there was famously a little um
dip of the toe where somebody made a a a
podcast I'm sorry a landing page that
you were going to run for governor we we
had a little fun with that what do you
think of Gavin what do you think of his
podcast I think he's an excellent
politician it's clear he's starting the
2028 campaign okay I think he's done a
really good job so far I think Schulz is
right he is
unwinding all of
the kind of like landmines that the
Democrats have stepped on I think he's
learned what Kamala did wrong and now
he's taking this very narrow path which
is like I'm going to basically disavow
all the stuff that people don't care
about so all the gender woke ideology
stuff I don't think you're going to hear
him talk about he'll try to drive a
narrow wedge on these economic issues so
I don't know I mean I think it's going
to create a really Dynamic 2028 campaign
if he gets momentum by the way his
popularity has gone up which is insane
which after the fires and all of the
ineptitude in California all of the
corporations that have run away all of
the people that have left the chaos in
San
Francisco after all of that he started a
podcast and his popularity's gone up
it's really incredible coming around the
horn freeberg what do you think of Gavin
Nome look I think the podcast was
brilliant I think when I watched it I
was hooked because there were two things
that I think were critical
in how he runs it firstly is he is
showing the first time I think that I
have ever seen a Democrat do or a
republican in modern politics active
listening to the other side it seems so
crazy that this is some sort of special
event and special concept but this
active listening moment where you see a
politician it totally breaks down the
Walls where you immediately feel on
guard or on offense against that person
because if someone's actively listening
to you you actually feel like you're on
the same side somehow and you're trying
to come to a conclusion together and so
what that does is it invites the person
on the other side in this case the
audience The Listener to be with Gavin
part of the kind of coming together the
second thing I think he did that's
really brilliant is so much of the
modern political by modalism where
you're in one camp or the other means
that everything is a one or a zero you
know Andrew talked about this we're all
generally I think none of us would
consider ourselves political party
Affiliates we are all generally people
that like to to think for ourselves on a
topic or an issue and we don't care
about what party is associated but the
way modern politics has evolved is you
don't debate the topics you debate the
one or the zero because of what the
party says my party says this is the
position therefore I'm a one and you're
a zero and the other side says I'm the
one you're the zero meaning everything
has to be binary I'm completely right
you're completely wrong and I think what
Gavin has done is he's shown that these
are not ones and zeros they're 8020 or
6040 or
5545 and he's willing to acknowledge
that he's showing that you know what we
might be only 45% right and on so many
topics the Democratic party has ended up
slightly wrong they're
4555 it's not that they're a zero or a
one they're slightly off on taxes
they're slightly off on social issues
and they're off just enough that they
lost the election they're off just
enough that they lost tax breast tax
Andrew 2028 Trump's running for his
third term versus Gavin Newsome who do
you vote for I mean we gotta run it back
for a third term for Trump doubt course
uh no obviously I believe the it wasn't
a third term Gavin versus Trump who
would you go I it's it's I mean I gota
see what his like policies are and I
gota see where America is I think that
like the big misunderstanding with this
last election is that at least the
Democrats who are still trying to like
vilify these figures on the right what
they don't understand is they think that
this was like some populist election
where like people just fell in love with
Trump and they just loved it for so much
they would just do whatever he says what
I think is harder for them to Grapple
with is the
self-reflection of a rejectionist vote
so I think people rejected the
Democratic proposal 100% And they went
with what the other alternative was
which was Trump and exact correct that's
a way tougher pill to swallow you have
to look back at everything you've done
and go wow we're off we're not listening
to the people this guy listens to the
people I mean it seems like I'm fluffing
Trump here but like I would say that his
greatest skill is listening to what
people say and I think a lot of times
there's this IV league pretentiousness
in the Democratic party where it's like
we know it's better for you yeah and I
know you say you want these things you
don't really want that let us we we
we've studied and we've talked about it
in our little thought experiments in
class so we know what you
need what you just shut up condescending
it's condescending exactly so I think
that like when people go ah the food is
giving me cancer and then he appoints
the guy who says the food is bad to run
the food the American people go well
that kind of seems like a good thing I I
like that you know it it is like an
acute understanding and listening to
what people are saying and sometimes to
his disadvantage like he came out
against that um they were putting some
like tax on people who drive into
Manhattan or whatever like yeah
congestion pricing and ini pricing
initially people really rejected it
right and then uh so he was like we're
getting rid of congestion pricing and
like two weeks after they put that
congestion pricing thing everybody I
knew with a car was like this is the
greatest thing the city has yeah you can
actually move right you can take a taxi
and it's faster than government
overreach is good
bureaucracy nice like yeah you want a
car stay in the Burrows exactly so it's
you don't get a car in Manhattan explain
this to people it's a little bit
egregious I mean you and I do Jason but
Body El have it exactly Our Lives should
be different you know what I mean
absolutely absolutely but mean what's
the point of us having nice cars if we
can't drive them whenever we want yes
yes and you know we grew up at a time on
the lower e side uh you know you could
go to Tribeca we could go to Club
Limelight you could park outside the
Limelight at night you could go to
Palladium you could park on 14th Street
I park right on 14th Street okay I go
used to be a church right and then you
know I sniff pop ecstasy you do a little
whatever
the morning listen you goofballs between
your stupid mustache and your OIC turkey
neck I am
totally turkey go to something useful
are we GNA let Chamas sit there in
MacGyver's funeral outfit tell us that
we're goofballs this guy's wearing a
vest with a collar he looks like he's
going to a Punjabi wake I can't believe
that he would even talk about the way
that you're dressed and how you look
this is custom Laura piano boys this is
Laur really what does it look like you
got it at Zara all right listen um but
more importantly let's stay on track yes
yes we got to stay on track can I tell
you guys something about uh tariffs from
a Layman yes please like you guys are
cutely aware of maybe how these things
affect markets and yada yada yada and
most people don't have any [ __ ] clue
so the the the average person right I
look at this and I'm like man it kind of
sucks that you got to like negotiate
your like your bid for a car you're
going to buy publicly right so this is
my assumption and maybe I'm like a
little bit more optimistic than most
about the administration but if I go to
buy a car and the car is let's said 100K
and I go offer the guy 80
right I don't want everybody around me
yelling out like how can you insult him
by offering him 80 this is an insult and
then I I can't go to them and I go I'm
actually trying to settle it 90 I'm just
saying 80 so he comes down a little bit
but the unfortunate thing when you
litigate these things in front of the
entire world is that they look at that
first measure there 200% taxes and Trump
can't bulk at it he can't go yo I'm just
[ __ ] I'm just playing around with
that number I actually just getting them
to come down 20% or 10 getting to come
down anything is a win he can't say that
because he loses all his leverage so
he's got to sit here and then get
criticized by I don't know if it's half
the country I don't know you know who
really ends up caring about what these
tariffs do obviously they're
repercussions in the market I got a
buddy of mine building a hotel out in
Joshua Tree and he's like I don't even
know if I can get brought into the
country from Canada so it does affect
people in real time but it's impossible
to do these negotiations with any
leverage if you have the people within
your own country questioning your
ability to negotiate in real time that
is what the Layman would think well I do
think you're right in the sense that in
the early days when Trump was talking
about tariffs initially everyone was
like oh my God he's going to use tariffs
he's unpredictable and then the
narrative became he's using it as a
negotiating tactic the problem is just
like in poker once everyone knows that
there's this kind of action it's
exploitable and so this is now kind of
an exploitable mode of negotiation where
everyone now assumes he's just trying to
negotiate so no one actually takes him
seriously the question now is the
response going to be that he's going to
be serious about it or is he actually
exploitable and you saw what China's
response was I kind of view China as
like AI like stuff goes into China the
AI processes it and it comes back out
China is like obviously the way they're
kind of structured you have very little
psychosocial bias like you do with other
democratic governments it's very
systematic it's systematically processed
every piece of data is systematically
processed every action is systematically
processed and so I think when you look
at how the Chinese Ambassador responded
to Trump on Twitter a few weeks ago
where they're like you want war we'll
give you War this is a hot war or a cold
war whatever you want we've never seen
that from an ambassador to the United
States president before done on Twitter
like this let alone the Chinese
Ambassador so I think it says a lot
about how the Chinese AI is processing
the Trump negotiating tactic or the
Trump positioning statements on tariffs
which indicates that there may be now I
mean we can talk about what game theory
optimal play might be in this kind of
poker game What's going to come next but
there's a a real assessment that they've
made on how far he is willing to take it
they've got a conclusive statement and
they believe that this is the fastest
way to kind of win their negotiating
position but it says a lot about where
this is all going everyone now
understands or views this as an
exploitable moment which unfortunately
means that tariffs may not work or
they're actually going to have to stick
which can be really
yeah it could be painful could be
painful for every your thoughts on the
to and Andrew's position what is the I
think it's it's like 120 some odd years
Nick maybe you can find this tweet that
I had but almost the majority of years
as a nation or close to a majority of
the years as a
nation we had no income tax and the way
that we would fund the programs that we
needed was not from insiders but from
Outsiders and that's where the Tariff
was born right it's people domestically
in America don't pay any taxes on the
things that they do and instead if you'd
like to sell into the United States you
pay a reasonable tax so this is the so
how many years so it's 126 years from
1776 to
1861 then we paused it for a few years
because of the Civil War we restarted
again in
1872 and you notice when it stopped when
it stopped was right around World War I
where this entire War Machine broke out
and and we've never looked back so I
don't know I think that one way to think
about this is we're probably going to go
back and
Explore isn't it better if we have this
incredibly vibrant and rich country of
330 million people with a ton of
purchasing power what happens if we put
the burden not on them to fund the
American infrastructure and social
programs and safety net but if we put
the burden on all the companies in the
other seven .7 billion people in the
world in the 185 plus countries that
want access to these folks should there
be exceptions probably should there be
waivers in very specific and narrow
cases
absolutely but I think that that's where
these guys are going and I think that
you heard this by the way yesterday from
Howard lutnick I don't know if you guys
saw this but he said the Trump tax plan
is going to cut federal income taxes to
zero for anybody making 150k or less saw
that
it's crazy what would the vulnerability
in that be like putting the burden on
all of these expenses that we would
incur on other countries what would that
vulnerability for us be there are two
the first we keep the expenses that's
that's the key if we keep the tars if we
charge them to come into the market we
charge them an extra 25% but it's we we
talked about this last week if you cut
the budget then it's it can be net
neutral that's part of what they said
got it but he's saying what is the
Strategic vulnerability I think the
Strategic vulnerability is too the the
thing with tariffs is and you're
pointing out this let's just say today
you say there's a tariff and then
tomorrow you say oh we've found an
agreement and we're going to take it off
the table one piece of logic would say
wow that's great we're able to change
our mind on a dime the problem for
countries and companies is that they
can't think in 24-hour blocks of time
right they're making decisions in five
and 10 year blocks of time it's like I'm
going to go and borrow a billion
I'm going to go and build a data center
I'm going to borrow 10 billion I'm going
to build tanks once you start that you
can't just stop it and then restart it
so that's one strategic problem which is
that if you are not careful some of
these markets that are really crucial
I'll give you one which we talked about
last week right now 95% of all of the
energy we generate in America is from
Renewables whether you like it or not
that's just what it
is the reason why that's possible is
because America has a very sophisticated
Market where all these people come from
all corners of the world insurance
companies life insurance companies Banks
and they fund all of it and the reason
is they can take a tax credit they can
lower their effective tax rate they get
a higher rate of return it's all super
complicated but the point is these
incentives exist if all of a sudden
you play around with that market half
that energy would go away electricity
prices would rise inflation goes up and
then if we have to go and compete
against China for AI and a bunch of
other stuff where is the energy going to
come from you're going to Brown out
people you're going to just turn their
energy off so that you can fund a data
center so that the Tik Tock algorithm is
better that's literally what we would
have to decide so that's that's one way
and then the second way is if you're
providing a critical service or a good
to American people for which there is no
alternative that becom really
problematic because that person can then
pull that product and say I can't afford
to make it the obvious example is if you
make pharmaceutical drugs for rare
diseases what do you do and again those
are all things that are like multi-
deade long decisions yeah you'd love to
make them and unchange them at every 24
hours but it's just not possible because
like you just make these decisions and
you're stuck with them for a long time
that's where the tarff thing becomes
problematic if you change them often
enough if you implement them and you're
like this is what it's going to be the
world can adapt and people can figure it
out I mean the other problem is just the
communication of this has been terrible
we were on the program last week or two
weeks ago Joe lale is like this is about
fentanyl so is it about fenol is it
about getting rid of income tax at the
federal level is it about supply chain
resiliency these guys get like a D in my
grade book for communication it's
terrible communication and this idea
that you can't take Trump too seriously
about his claims like well he said he
was gonna overturn roie Wade he did it
he said he was gonna close the border
and send people home he did that you
know yeah he said he'd do a Muslim ban
he actually did that so for every time
he says something and you're like that's
cap no way he's going to do that I
actually think people are starting to
realize he's going to do something here
with these tariffs they're not just a
negotiating position and the other
problem I think a lot of people have
with this is it's centralize his power
anybody can go to Trump now and say I
want an exception I'm you know a car
company I want an exception I'm a Solar
Company I you know I need an exemption
and then now you've got everybody going
to Mar Lago to Kiss the Ring to give him
a donation to bow down and it
centralizes more power with them as
opposed to having rules yes and we need
to have rules in this country that apply
to everybody not just people who give a
million dollars like Bezos and Tim Cook
and everybody and Zuck The Weather Vein
gave him we don't want to live in that
world where you're just bribing Trump to
get your tariff and that's how people
feel that's how the business Community
feels that's the reality right now
people are bribing Trump giving him a
million dollars to the inauguration to
get close to him to go to Mara Lago and
it looks really bad you need to have a a
clear strategy here for what the rules
of the game are and he's changing the
rules so you have to go to him and he's
he loves that that's actually I think
what he's trying to do is get everybody
to go through him it's a really clever
hack I think yeah and perception is
reality so you have to react to people's
perception like we can throw data points
all we want at people and we can throw
research and all this other [ __ ] but if
people aren't meeting you there then
you're not going to be communicating
with them effectively and I think that
uh that's something that like you know
especially you guys need to know you
guys have pretty information that the
average American probably is not and we
can [ __ ] and complain about how they
don't read or how they're not looking up
you know what happened in 1913 to change
the course of American history and how
we started te or we can go okay we need
to find a way to disseminate this
information so that they can make these
decisions and I guess or feel
comfortable with the results of these
decisions do you think America would be
okay with this idea of taxing Outsiders
and then relying on it versus income tax
paid by its own citizens I think that
the second half is really all that would
matter I think that people are fig I
think the majority of people are
thinking about the next week so if you
say that I don't have to pay taxes like
and I think this is what Republicans are
doing way better than Democrats right
now is like Democrats don't have build
the wall they don't have slogans they
don't have things that immediately tap
into like core emotional feeling
regardless if you're going to do it or
not we want Greenland okay that's cool
Democrats need eggs or a dollar
Democrats need things that like Echo
their sentiments and how they want to
like take care of people and provide for
the disenfranchise but it has to be done
in a way where it's digestible you can
chew on it if you want to make housing
more affordable then you say yeah we're
seizing public land we're building
10,000 units like you have to tap into
what Americans need which is a feeling
of not just Comfort every American
thinks they're going to be a millionaire
that's what this country drives off of
right it's every poor American that hope
that hope yeah and the second they stop
thinking they will be they or they can
be or they can be it falls apart and
then some healthcare CE gets shot and
people celebrate they're they're
celebrating because they no longer feel
the hope that they could be in that
position yeah they feel so
disenfranchise they they and this is
what like I'm telling you like the you
guys of the world need pay close
attention to because there's going to be
no empathy if anything bad happens oh
the stock market is down no Americans
are invested in the stock market like
all you I've been saying it no no no
I've been saying this for months country
I've been saying it for months nobody
cares about the stock market nor should
we and the reason is because we people
who own these assets have overly
benefited more than we've deserved for
the last 15 years ever since the great
financial crisis in the United States
people who as Jason said could cozy up
and by the way Jason I think the the the
claim that you made which is is is
severely true for how from 2007 up until
now has played out because if you look
under all the
programs if you could have lobbied Obama
in those critical years of the GFC yep
oh my God the amount of money that was
no because we we took interest rates
literally to zero anybody like us who
could have gone and gotten levered up
and gone into the stock market was
richly rewarded and the problem is we
left everybody else behind and I think
the great thing about Trump is he is
going to reset that he is going to take
a lot of wealth away from asset holders
you're seeing it every day 500 billion
500 billion there is no sympathy I think
it's
fantastic that's that's great to it's
great to hear you even saying that
because I feel like a lot of people that
are in maybe your guys position don't
understand that disconnect and that is
important to understand there like even
what happened in the Palisades like in
LA with like the fire the second people
heard it was like rich people's houses
there was no empathy for it they didn't
a million dollar house you yeah was like
and it it is I don't even have a house I
can't find a house you burned your house
down and you move you went back you went
to your vacation house now oh I'm sorry
you're living at your ski house that's a
tragedy like literally you're right it
probably explains why we don't hear
anything in the news anymore about
anything that's happening with respect
to reconstruction or any of the disrup
it's a rich person problem people and
you know I think putting together what
you just said schultzy and and uchim off
Trump is a master at connecting with
people and listening to them I thought
the one of the greatest things he he he
he did during this last election is when
he said no tax on tips when he said no
tax on tips he was going right for
Nevada he was going right for that swing
state you know to get those those folks
who live off tips but what he was also
doing is saying I know that there's a
bunch y'all that sometimes get cash tips
you put in your pocket it's the gray
Market I get it you know I run a you
know I I got caddies who get a hyy from
you know whatever taking somebody out on
the course we're just going to make it
official you don't get tax on tips
because we know that you're you know
you're the bottom third of the country
in terms of your economic power those
kind of statements really do connect
with people Trump has just mastered this
this party is Trump is the Democratic
party that we grew up with it's kind of
crazy it's kind of crazy right and then
the Democrats became this elitist group
that seem to be in the pocket of
business interest I don't know what
Bizarro World we're living well that I
think you tapped into it right there
it's like uh I think that they they
could easily win the next election if
they made it a class war but they don't
because it feels like they're in the
pockets of these billion dollar
corporations so they can't really I mean
Bernie did it really effectively right
like this random Jew in Maine or
something like that is like yo we got to
get some money from these rich people
give it back to the poor and all of the
sudden all of America turned him into
like our surrogate grandfather so you
can and then he got shived by Hillary
and the Machine and and I mean what did
they say about his fans like they went
very specifically they're like he has a
his the Bernie Bros have a sexism and
bigotry problem right they made him
radioactive right so now you killed the
working class now the working class is
no longer supporting the Democratic
party so who do they have left they have
the identity politics groups so they
can't piss off the identity politics
groups because they're like that's all
we got left they did the same [ __ ] with
us during the election right they're
like the podcast Bros have a sexism amb
bigotry problem they they try to make
people radioactive and it's like that
card's been played so many times that
people are desens anymore I think
there's one big shoe left to drop I
think we've started the process of
really really taking a bunch of heat out
of the asset markets like equities so
we've taken trillions and trillions of
dollars of wealth away I think we're
going to take trillions more but the
next big market and this is actually
where Andrew to your point we
reestablish some hope I think for a lot
of people is we are going to whack the
housing market it's just going to happen
and let me just say something about how
is that GNA happen J explain it because
there's 7 million homes that we still
need to build to to service just current
demand how does that actually happen
with the supply demand problem in your
mind there are a bunch of mechanisms
that have to get cleaned up right now
okay so one mechanism is that there are
a whole host of mortgages that are
basically being propped up they it was a
program that's that really got out of
control under the Biden Administration
Nick you can find this article is in the
Wall Street Journal we are going to
figure out how to get these two
government related agencies Fanny May
and Freddy Mack out of what's called
conservatorship and these are the folks
that are responsible for
essentially wrapping guarantees around
mortg so that the mortgage Market can
function the details don't particularly
matter that much but the point is that
what we are doing is we are
unwittingly propping up with American
taxpayer
dollars the US housing market why is
that bad it is locking an inordinate
number of people from that first
critical step that actually makes them
feel like they are winning and they're
on their way to achieving their dreams
which is can I make a it on a home and
then can I live this out and you have
these artificially inflated prices all
around the country as a result of this
so I think this next wave is deeply
beneficial to the middle class which is
there is no reason like you guys see it
when you read The Wall Street Journal I
think it is the dumbest [ __ ] in the
world when I see an article which is
like this house just is $65 million on4
acres in some Rando place in Miami
I was thinking Malibu but yeah but what
is this this makes no sense and so when
you rationalize a bunch of equity
values and you rationalize the cost of a
home I think what you're going to do is
you're going to allow a lot more people
to find a more reasonable way to enter
the housing market and I do think that
that's a really big step in allowing
them to feel like they're part of the
dream so you lower asset prices you can
own some stocks maybe you own a 401k or
if you've never had a 41k but your
employer offers it for the first time it
may actually make Financial sense to put
a small amount of it in there you've
never been able to own a home all of a
sudden home prices are whacked 30 or 40%
you're able to do that because of how
Trump goes after the budget when his
rate of borrowing for the US government
goes down your mortgage rate goes down
now all of a sudden you can enter in
because home prices are less and you can
actually get a mortgage they may all
seem very random but they can come
together in giving 50 60 million people
a shot that they have been screaming
since the great financial crisis they
don't have this is so huge because on
like a core emotional level you want as
many Americans as possible invested in
American success and Excellence totally
and the the greater the Delta between
like them and their first home or their
first investment at stock the greater
that distance the more disillusioned
they become in America in general when
they feel like like you said earlier
like the way you guys got into the
market when you could basically take out
loans for nothing and then you saw these
incredible gains they feel left behind
the second they feel like they're in on
it they own apartment they own some
shares of Tesla that's why crypto is so
popular is because they're feel like
it's their only access I got yeah it's
like yeah it's like comedy in some ways
like all I need is a microphone or music
like there's a path for me and crypto
obviously is a giant [ __ ] scam it's a
scam Shore but I can get a piece of this
I can get a piece of this this American
dream and I would rather that they were
invested in uh you know a Vanguard
account or something like that I would
rather they're invested in the entire
Market I mean there's this this idea and
I'm sure you poke holes and tons of
holes into it and but this idea like
every American Born gets a thousand
bucks put into a friend of ours Brad
gersner with this of invest America is
the concept and regardless if the
concept is good or not the emotional
connectivity to the success of American
industry is really important when you
know at 22 that you could get this thing
that's compounding for 22 years you
could pay off some college loans you
could put something down on a house you
could pay for trade school whatever it
is I think you have a different energy
towards America and its success and then
you have a lot less of these kids who
are just like America is this horrible
place and capitalism is bad yeah
capitalism is bad when you're left
behind when you're invested in
capitalism it's the [ __ ] baby absolutely
we're on the express train let me give
you guys um I did an analysis I was I
wasn't sure if I should put it out but
I'll tell you guys the numbers
the US Social Security program is meant
to be kind of the retirement program for
folks that don't have access to private
retirement accounts okay and this
program was set up in the 1930s after
the Great Depression and there's a trust
fund the OASDI which is the the fund
that they invest to Capital so every
year we all put money in with our social
security taxes out of our paychecks goes
in there and it gets invested you know
what it gets invested
in it gets invested in one thing us
treasuries which have averaged about
4.8% return since the beginning of the
program per year meanwhile what if you
put it into the market meanwhile the S&P
has been averaging 11% so here's the
math if in 1971 which was the year that
we went off the gold standard in the
United States if we invested the Social
Security trust fund in the S&P the
balance of the Social Security trust
fund today would be $15
trillion that would be roughly onethird
of the value of the total S&P 500 which
would be jointly owned by all Americans
who took their Capital now here's what's
Fed Up what's fed up is that the middle
class people who had access to private
retirement accounts benefited by buying
the S&P 500 and the wealthy were able to
access it so all of the equity value
that accured from American Enterprise
and the prosperity of the American
system accured to the people that had
access to the private accounts meanwhile
the people that only had access to the
Public Accounts got stuck owning
treasuries today the Social Security
trust fund has $2.7 trillion balance and
based on the outflows and inflows it's
going to go bankrupt in
2032 that means Social Security is
either going to get cut or the fed's
goingon to print a ton of money to keep
Social Security benefits retirement age
goes up a little bit Yeah there a lot of
levers yeah wow so I did the math if you
assume that the S&P 500 continues to
grow at 10 and a half% a year on average
there's ups and downs and sure there
could be basically draw downs and all
these other sorts of things but here's
the important point we could put about
$500 billion in the trust fund today and
it will not go bankrupt again and it
will continue to grow every year and
then all Americans have participation in
American Enterprise and importantly this
becomes the world's largest Sovereign
wealth fund ever you don't need a
separate Sovereign wealth fund we
already have one it's it's called It's
called The Social Security trust fund
and what we've done is we've totally
mismanaged it and I went back to trying
to understand why this is the case why
have we only ever bought treasuries
early on the US needed someone to loan
money so they basically forced the
citizens to loan the government money
the form of treasuries but today the
Social Security trust fund owns only
less than 10% about 8% of the total
treasury bonds outstanding the rest are
owned by the fed and foreign investors
and private investors and others that
want to own it so why are we forcing all
the American citizens toing up for no
reason and and we're we're discouraging
access so basically we've created
through the Social Security System we've
created the Deep inequity we see in this
country If instead we had allowed the
social security system to invest in the
S&P 500 to buy American Enterprises to
fund American businesses then every
American would be wealthy and that
middle class that uniquely participated
by basically arbitraging the market
where they forced the treasury bond
yields on the poor and they got to take
access to the equity yields would have
not happened yeah they had 401ks
rightt and they were able to participate
by with brokerage accounts and buying
the market what we can do right now is
we can fix it and here's the important
Point people will then argue oh what if
there's a down year or two down year in
a row you know what we're already going
to be printing money to make up the hole
in Social Security we're not going to
let Social Security go bankrupt we're
not going to let it dry out so we're
already going to print money to make the
Social Security whole so if that's the
case we can create a a back stop for
Social Security we're g to have to do it
either way but we might as
well we might as well take on the go
yeah no no no chth you were gonna say
something the reason why we didn't do it
goes back to what you said before which
is we have a bunch of we had a bunch of
very quote unquote well-educated ivy
league trained people running these
institutions and the feedback I don't
even know what it said but I can tell
you what the memo said there's too much
risk we've sensitized this model it
doesn't make sense this is the safest
thing to do so it goes back to just like
we need a little bit more practical
thinking like at the end of the day why
the S&P 500 exists is of all the
thousands and thousands and thousands of
companies in the world you know how many
companies in the world make more than a
billion a year more than
20,000 and of that 20,000 the S&P 500 is
just the 500 best it's the best of the
best of the best so to your point
freeberg it didn't take a PhD from
Harvard to figure out that if you just
owned an index of the absolute 500 best
things happening at any given point in
it would have gone up so since when do
America since when are Americans risk
intolerant like there's something baked
in into the DNA of the people that
decide to leave their families and move
here totally immigrant country and to
your point imagine logging in like like
we've all had I'm assuming a 401k
account and I remember how exciting it
is to log in and see the account and
Schult I want to say something that's
really important like you talk about us
people like you know earlier on the
commentary which is something I hear a
lot my first job was making $425 an hour
cleaning toilets in a pool hall in
Upstate New York jamath has similar
stories jcal has similar stories like
any of us that that 455 Canadian working
at Burger King yeah and I had like and
then well the worst part about my job in
the pool hall was that then the manager
made me go play poker at his house and
he took all the money back which I stole
I stole the chicken fingers at night
bring them home my mom would my mom
would whip him up but it was so exciting
in my career in my life to be able to
like go from that moment to the moment
where I had a 401k and I could log in I
could see the businesses that I owned
and I understood that and I saw the
value go up and I got to participate
that imagine if every American when when
you get your Social Security statement
today all it tells you is a dollar
amount and how much you're going to get
in the future imagine if you logged in
and you got to see all the businesses
you own a piece of and you got to
participate conect every single day be
lighting a Tesla we can fix this and by
the way we can solve both The Sovereign
wealth fund question and the Social
Security trust fund question every
dollar that's going into these Sovereign
wealth fund ideas or if they come to
fruition or in my opinion and obviously
I haven't spoken facts about this but
the crypto fund and all this other sort
of stuff every dollar that should go
into the social Social Security trust
fund and that Social Security trust fund
should be for the benefit of all
Americans and it should be equities it
should be ownership it should be
participation in what the American
dream the American dream enabled us all
to succeed and it should enable everyone
else to participate in shares and equity
in American Enterprise that can come to
Market so it's not about a thousand
bucks on your born it's about an ongoing
participation putting your money in and
having that money allocated in a way
that America that smart and Wealthy
Americans get to allocate it which is
into owning and businesses that's it
Shelty yeah go no I I think it's great I
hopefully you guys don't feel like I'm
Like discrediting You by saying you guys
but I'm just trying to give you guys I
think a great it's an important framing
because it's like it you're you're 100%
right but like I you know we see
comments on YouTube like oh you guys and
I'm like dude I remember like it feels
like yesterday when I was in fraking
debt I graduated college with a bunch of
debt and I went and like found a job and
worked my ass off and I was working 20
hour days and never slept and like you
know it wasn't easy I mean I feel like
very emotional about this right now
sorry hang
on
um listen it it wasn't easy bro it
wasn't given to you none of us inherited
none of us inherited we we we came to
America and to see the joy to to see
what we all benefited from I'm getting
emotional about this but it's like well
it's because the American dream's broken
we got to fix
it to have people talk about it as if as
if being successful and and getting
there is a crime it a bad person it's a
Dream It's a dream schy go I think the
the framing this is very important like
my mom is also an immigrant right she
came here from Scotland she has no
education I think she stopped going to
school at like 14 or something like that
comes to America and she's this massive
success here in terms of like where she
came from where she got to right and
what she was able to buy she was able to
buy a home in the East Village of New
York City she able to buy a beach house
like just off of like grind and hard
work yeah what she saw here which I'm
sure a lot of you guys also saw is
opportunity she had ambition and
opportunity and I I think that that's
what I think a lot of times that's what
immigrants see when they come here
because they probably come from places
where they feel absolutely no
opportunity so the second they feel like
there's a little of it if they work
those 20 hours a week I mean I saw my
parents grind totally like my work ethic
just comes from watching them you know
what I mean just watching them just kill
it every single day so what I think that
you guys are speaking to which is really
important and I think it's important
that people know your story as well
because it becomes more accessible when
they see you guys and they know what you
came from and they know you're working
at Burger King and now you guys are
worth billions of dollars it's very
important that Americans know that
that's possible for them maybe not to
hit a billion but maybe to hit a million
maybe hit 300,000 maybe to buy a house
that's $100,000 that they're really
proud of own it
outright and the fact that this is
accessible like what you just said to me
is just hope and abundance like that's
the message of what you just said you
said something that made it seem very
simple to me we put this money here
everybody's now invested in the success
of the American economy and now when we
see the Stock Market ticker look green
which is all the average person sees
green or red we don't really know
anything but when we see green we get
excited we
go and now we goes up and we start
rooting Jam feels that way too yeah but
think he's getting excited right now if
you're saying it he's gonna start crying
oh wait it's green today it's been red
for a week but think like CEOs right
like these people uh have become
villainized right and it's because we're
not attached to the success of their
companies that's right when if you if
your biggest holding is Tesla please
believe you're not upset yeah I think
people think that their success now
works against your best interests yes
instead of and the system's rigged and
the system's rigged and you can't be
part of it and you're being ground down
this is a I think really good proposal
freeberg and and if you look at housing
that's the other one I I when I if I run
for president you know what my position
is going to be Shela what's that I'm
going to build five cities with 3
million homes in each and you can only
buy them if you make under x amount per
year it's not going to be like the
projects or like you know subsidized
housing in New York talking about it's
not going to be sty town okay it's gonna
be nice house that's pretty good if you
can get it yeah St Town's not bad but
not like projects I'm talking about like
proper homes like bu we are the most
Innovative
country Society ever created created I
mean since the Greeks they were pretty
great too but we could build five new
cities why the can't we build five new
cities with 3 million homes in it let's
do some like Manhattan project for
housing and then healthare how the hell
do we not have like good healthare for
everybody in this country the richest
country in the world greatest economy
whatever we should be able to solve
those problems and that's why people
don't feel like they're part of this is
because basic housing basic health care
and your retirement it's not like it's
rigged against you this sounds crazy but
for young people I think they would
forgive healthare if they were invested
in the market and I think being invested
in the market is just so daunting but
the feeling that everybody else is
getting rich when you're not is the
reason why I bought crypto not knowing
anything about it it's a reason why
everybody else bought it it's this
feeling that the train is running away
and you're not going to be part of it so
how do we get them to feel part of that
success I think really importantly you
know today just just to give you guys
some other statistics 60% of middle
class households net worth is in their
home only 10 10% of their net worth is
in owning the S&P 500 in in index funds
or whatever in their retirement accounts
and so by creating this American Dream
around housing and allowing the federal
government to provide loans on housing
we've increased the cost of housing
we've created a very like destructive
housing bubble in the sense that it has
reduced people's exposure to
participation in productive value
creation and that's through the
ownership of businesses instead we've
stored our net worth in the house and in
order to keep the economy and the social
structure stable we've created policies
that allow the continuation of the
growth in the value of houses so people
feel like their net worth is
incrementing and 100% right and that's
unfortunately very making new housing
which makes it worse with the
restrictions have you guys heard of
Warren Buffett's most public failure no
Warren Buffett's most public failure was
when he was brought on as an adviser to
Arnold Schwarzenegger when schwarzen was
running for governor and Buffett kind of
looked at the laws in California and
there's a law in California when you own
a home that when you pass on you can
pass it off to your kids and you can
basically keep the cost that you paid in
terms of setting the real estate taxes
and it's had an enormously negative
effect in unlocking turnover of homes
and that's a large driver of why homes
are so expensive in California so
Buffett looked at this
and there was a lot of fanfare
Schwarzenegger is like here's my
economic genius and first thing he said
was guys I think we should repeal this
law he was gone two days later wow he's
not popular and by the way there's a lot
of other policies like this you know two
days later he had to resign if you do
the if you do the true kind of like
macroanalysis as an investor you should
probably have about 20% of your net
worth in the US in real estate not 60%
and so we need to give people the
ability and we need to think about all
the follow on trickle effects of
creating a set of laws a set of policies
that basically incentivize almost all of
your net worth to go into a single asset
your home and what that then means in
the fact that we have to keep pumping up
the value of that home and we have to
have a system in order for people to
feel like they're getting ahead keep
inflating and eventually people can't
afford homes and that's where we are
today when did you guys first started
start your education in in the markets
like at what age did you feel like you
sought out I bought my first stock in
the company I was working for or the
parent company the company I was working
for in 1989 when I was 18 years old so
18 what about you did I bought $300 in
stock um I signed up for an E Trade
account in college uh because I saw that
TV show called bull do you remember that
TV show was about Investment Banking
during the.com bubble it was such a no
one knows that show and I was like man
Wall Street is so cool I want to learn
about stocks because I was an
astrophysics major I didn't like I
didn't know what I was going to do after
I was going to go to graduate school or
whatever
and then I got caught up in the.com
bubble and I started reading the Wall
Street Journal every day I would take it
down to the freaking Plaza and I would
read the journal at school during lunch
and I tried to learn about tech and
business and markets because i' always
been a tech guy and I'm like man there's
all these startups and this is how the
markets work so I set up an E Trade
account I put some money in it and I
started and I bought some stocks and I
read the investor business business
daily on what stocks to buy they had a
rating and I bought those stocks and
they went up and I'm like man this is
awesome like I love owning stocks and
that kind of kicked me off and then got
an investment banking job after college
and it totally changed my career
trajectory I was like I want to go work
in the tech industry and work in
business what about you and it shifted
up for me you buy your first Equity but
by the way that I sorry let me just say
one thing what you asked is a really
important question I just realized this
Andrew because my um my interest in that
stock market thing at that time actually
changed my career trajectory and it
really reset what I was going to do with
my life to get involved in business and
go work in the tech industry as opposed
to work in science as a researcher and
that was a really shift for me so it it
gave me that kind of feeling of like oh
I got to learn more and then that that
kind of changed my career sorry go ahead
Jam I was 14 or 15 years old and there
was a this is when Rodney King had the
kicked out of him and almost
died all these race riots in LA and
nothing had changed actually in America
but where I was growing up in Canada the
provincial government created a program
that said if you're a minority and
you're on welfare we'll pay for you to
get a job
I I was a minority on welfare so I got a
job and it was at a startup that was
just going parabolic and their stock was
going nuclear and I lived in this shitty
part of
town and I would see the controller of
that company drive past me every day
while I was waiting for the bus and one
day he stopped and I went with this guy
Sam leg he drove me that whole
summer and he taught me what does the
company do why is the founder a
billionaire what the hell does this even
mean he unpacked it and so I saw
firsthand what it meant to work not for
a salary but to get a stake in the thing
that you're working for I bought a
couple shares it went up and it was
great but then I really fell in love
with this idea that I could understand
something and own a piece of it and then
it really accelerated when I graduated
from college because I was like freeberg
I was in debt and I was like how the do
get out of debt and I traded stocks on
behalf of my boss this guy Mike fer who
I thank to this day and I made so much
money right before the do crash he gave
me the money to pay off my student loans
wow wow and then ever since then I was
hooked I was like okay I can learn this
and I can deal with the vicissitudes of
this look the markets are brutal there
are moments where you just wake up and
it looks like everything's working and
then there are moments and this is what
everybody needs to understand though if
some of these programs work where it
literally looks like the bottom is
falling out and I cannot describe to
people the pressure you will feel on
behalf of you and your family when it
looks like you're taking a 30 or 40 or
50% negative downturn to your net worth
yeah it inflicts a level of
psychological damage that I cannot
describe to you and the the bigger the
numbers get by the way I told this story
on Tucker there was a period where I
would would wake up and I could just
tweet and the markets would go up they
were like what's he going to say next
and then it all stopped and then there
was a two and a half year period where I
gave it all back and then some wow
that's frustrating yeah the mest Touch
goes away it's beyond frustrating it
shakes you to your core so if we do
these programs I think the freedberg
idea is is just beautiful it's lovely
what about you sh when did you make but
I just to finish if we do it we have to
try to teach people how to deal with the
draw Downs because that's where if you
don't teach them how to deal with the
the volatility of losing money it's
great when everything's green but those
red days man how you comport yourself
how you act how you treat other people
in the red days are the only days that
matter yeah it's a Growing Experience
what about you Shelty when did you buy
your first Equity I was
probably
35
ohine so my my I mean my parent how old
are you I'm 41 so I maybe even a little
bit later now I might have like owned
stock without even realizing it type of
thing where like I had like a business
manager who set up some retirement fund
or something like that but not me
actively choosing a stock and buying it
um my w my wife's father-in-law is a
very uh successful businessman and uh
he's he's he's I I don't want to say
like predicted the markets really well
but he has he was in Nvidia like super
early early early early and uh a bunch
of others and we were like sitting down
and like aspin somewhere and he like
said Hey listen what do you mean you
don't own anything he goes hey can you
take a you know I don't know if he said
10 grand or 100 Grand or something like
that he goes can you just put it in
these different stocks I go okay sure I
open up this like E Trade account or
whatever the it was but an interesting
thing right there is like you guys were
so young was 18 22 14 and to me I think
like the education of this is really
important like my parents did really
well but they're financially
like there was no passing on this like
knowledge of like investing when what it
means to invest like they made their
money by like working every single day
for it not like you guys don't but like
they were teaching dance lessons so it's
like this is how much the dance lesson
costs and you pay me and maybe I'll have
40 people in the class okay more people
are paying and now other teachers can
also teach but it was intimidating to
them it was int intimidating to me it
still is intimidating to me well this is
the I think the upside of crypto in some
ways also the upside of prize picks or
the you know gambling poker it's the
upside of Robin Hood and and coinbase
and all these things being available
this generation generation bet like they
love to gamble these young kids this is
my concern they're no but they're
learning they're learning how to take
the the downdrafts I Lear I think they
are learning so maybe like the barrier
of Entry is less but my concern is that
they're treating it more like gambling
than investing and I think that we've
almost like tricked the American public
into thinking that investing is gambling
when the way that you guys are
describing is it's not it's like
investing in the S&P and then leaving it
there and taking those downturns and
waiting for it to come back up yeah but
here's the thing you have to learn these
lessons at the poker table you cannot
play poker without real money or else
you're not going to get the burn you're
not going to stay up at night how do we
how do we so that's what these kids are
doing they're how do we educate them
it's not every kid right it's the
education comes from doing and if you
let these kids trade they will figure it
out over time and then what happens is
like you they get married they get they
get a baby they want to get a house and
then they say you know what I I'm going
to I'm going to stop buying meme coins
I'm going to start buying Bitcoin I'm
going to stop buying Bitcoin I'm going
to buy Nvidia and things with real R
they just get addicted to get happen all
the time exactly I agree with I agree
with SCH I don't think that I I think
you're being super reductive like oh
they'll get on the the all of a sudden
understand Dave Swenson's Yale endowment
asset allocation model [ __ ] I've
seen they won't I have seen thousands
and thousands and thousands of guys over
time who deeply steeped in this business
wash out
yeah and each to a one the more
sophisticated they get they all fall to
the same pressures which is they don't
know how to simplify and they don't know
how to be patient these are things that
every human being needs to learn and I
don't think time in the market actually
solves those two traits those are
psychological traits that you have to go
and figure out in a different way you
look inside yourself and you have to
figure those out okay yeah fair enough
but but between the choice of hey we're
going to grow up blue collar we have no
access to these markets we have no way
to trade in them we have no way to learn
and then today I think the system we
have today is better can people go off
the you know jump the fence and lose all
their money of course they can but they
could go to Vegas and do that prior to
that they could work with a bookie they
could do football sheets I I think
they're learning and when you use some
of these modern apps and you look at the
strategies and you see people on Reddit
working on these stocks and their thesis
I think it's trending the right there
can always be more education but this
is don't bet on the Jets right you said
it before I americ doesn't even know
what compound interest is I agree with
you in fact I'll tell you I'll tell you
a great story work to do I one of the
best things that happened when I
invested in the Golden State Warriors I
bought 10% of the team in 2011 or
something I got to meet all of them and
I got to meet a lot of my heroes and I
remember one meeting where I sat
with a go like play let's just put it
that we'll bleep it out we'll bleep it
out no I don't want to say his name but
okay fair
enough and he asked me the most
incredible question he's like jat can
you explain compound interest and Schulz
I can tell you I still have this
spreadsheet I just showed him a compound
interest
table and he had no idea how 8% versus
10% is like gargantuan over 50 years
over 20 years yeah and to your point it
was Illuminating that you're right
unless you unless you go and you jump
into it and you live it and Jason I
agree with you like there's nothing like
look Stan dram Miller says the same
thing invest then investigate like
there's nothing like putting the risk on
okay there's nothing like playing a hand
in poker there's nothing like taking a
shot at a different strategy in
blackjack win or lose you get feedback
but my point is most people don't get
better and so that's what you have to
solve is like how can you make it
interesting fun how can you talk about
the losses like this is a thing that I
had immense trouble with I still do
today I think I've gotten better with it
is to be able to talk about the losses
how do you talk about getting whacked
for $4 billion I can do it now but it's
brutal yeah it stung for a while for you
you saw you're a better person since you
saw me go through it how ashamed was I
for the two years that I had to unwind
that how bad it was hard for you yeah
yeah yeah it was hard I mean you're
imagine your whole identity is built
into you know you being successful in
these markets and you measure it the
wrong way like you point to the number
in the bank account not the way your
wife treats you not the way your kids
treat you not the way your friends treat
you and then you're like okay well I'm
30 40 50 60 70 80% poor so I'm just that
much less of a human being yeah but
that's a good reality check to lean into
family and those things that matter so
my point is like if you can if we can
get people more into the market I think
it's an incredible thing but you have to
to wrap it in these guard rils that have
nothing to do with the market they
everything to do with who you are as a
person and I think like the first step
is showing like what is the most
simplistic version of the benefit of the
market and I think it's compound
interest I I really think that that is
if we start there like remove the stock
market don't even talk about it just
like what happens if I left it in a
savings account that's getting 4% and I
don't touch it right now you know the
rule of 72 that was the one that opened
my brain up so the rule of 72 is
whatever the percentage you grow uh per
month divide it into 72 so let's say you
were growing 7.2% in the market per year
divide that it takes 10 years to double
your money so it's a time to double your
money okay if you were growing 7% a
month you know on whatever your
Investments are let's say you got a
great business that's growing like
Facebook or something like that that
means you double the number of users or
Revenue every 7.2 months once you
understand that you can do it quickly
just like in poker you know the number
of outs each card represents roughly 2%
chance because there's 50 of them right
so they each count for about 2% then you
can start doing this stuff in the back
of your head I I I had this idea I think
I talked about it here on the program of
doing a kids investment club and I
bought the domain kids investment Club I
actually need to do this I got to
prioritize this and find a CEO for it or
do it as a nonprofit or something just
kids need to learn this early Robin Hood
or somebody should make an app where
they can invest like a shadow but it's
you know like with their parents maybe
they can make the trade the par approves
it something like that there's something
where we should be learning all this in
high school this should be like this
what's more important than this remove
the fear remove the fear and and the
reason it's important is what we were
saying earlier get the American people
invested in American success and you
will find so much more patriotism you
will not find us nitpicking on all these
little things that a lot of us maybe go
why is this such a big deal like the
bathroom like most of us aren't
unaffected I cannot begin to explain how
quick will forget about the bathrooms
when the S&P is up 15% and you're
looking at your portfolio and you're
like I you could take a sh wherever you
want okay absolutely yes I have you got
something else to focus on absolutely
look at this hey fredberg here's your
time machine check it out there's your
favorite show I don't want to make you
more emotional but there he is your guy
Stanley Tucci from bull I think it only
made I think it only made it one season
one season but Tucci gang in full effect
I was such a tech ner growing up but I
never thought about the business of
technology and then the startup boom
happened and you got this bull show on
TV and I'm like man this is so much more
exciting than sitting in a freaking lab
doing mathematical modeling where I was
like pulling my freaking hair out I'm
like I want to get after that yeah and
the rest is history you know have you
guys watched Stanley Tucci on HBO where
he tours Italy and he does his little so
great and on SE seen it and I've seen
cook on Tik Tok he's like today is it
rolling it's rolling today I'm going to
make you FR it's got but I'm doing it in
the capacho base and we're going to put
and I'm like I just can this guy do ASMR
or put me to bed at night the best I I
got a man crush on Tucci tui's the best
I mean he's I would like to roll with
tuchi can you imagine if we went to
Italy and just had like a just roll with
Tui through
Italy I love that guy any dream is
possible J you could pull it I know
we're all dreaming here we're all
dreaming here
all right we're still dreamers by the
way really important everyone should
know that I think like there's no the
thing that the thing that a lot of
people assume this is the true about
humans in general is there's an end to
the rainbow but there isn't you ride the
rainbow till you die that's it and
there's always hope there's always
dreams there's always more and it
doesn't stop that's what makes it fun
are you taking the ketamine in Austin or
something what happened you just got all
full I'm a little hung over today I
started drinking at 10 a.m. yesterday we
went to um we went to the Mothership
last night and we well we hung out with
a couple of your boys I think who you
hang out with Tony
Tony ton was very nice and um met Shane
Gillis was there Shane Shane Gillis was
there but he was big time he was big
time there was a mob around and we
didn't get to meet him the guy Bert who
take I didn't recogniz yeah he had a
shirt on so I didn't recognize he was
course yeah I was like but then I saw
the body shape and I was like yeah
that's that's probably probably him when
did you start in comedy I was uh I think
it's almost been like 18 years or
something like that so you started in
your early 20s in New York going to the
funny bone or what I have a question
actually how did you get into it how do
you keep your like how do you pay for
your life before you make it how like
what like is it that you have a normal
day job I lived I lived with my parents
for like a very long time like my
parents lived in the East Village so I
was walking distance from like multiple
comedy clubs it was you know incredibly
uh I mean I worked like with my parents
for a little bit then I managed
restaurants and like just managed them
you manag restaurants in Manhattan yeah
I did I started in Santa Barbara when I
was going to college that's where I did
my first comedy gig and then I manage a
restaurant out in Brooklyn and um not
called biscuit barbecue was in Park
Slope Brooklyn and then um then I
started to make a little money in
standup and it was like enough to like
buy a m Moon's Falafel I like had like a
five to FF money I had I had A5 to $10 a
day budget and I like I could eat cereal
for breakfast and then I just and I
saved some money cuz I was going to
school was when I was going to school I
was working at that restaurant and I
like saved some money and like I had a
little pipe dream Ving up a bar with a
friend of mine in New York and then I
was like you know what I'm just GNA
spend this money trying to be a comedian
and I hope by the time I get rid of the
money I'm making money a comedy and it
came down to like $700 in my bank
account I was like renting out the room
where I slept in and I would sleep in a
closet in my apartment and uh it just
and it worked out it just worked out I
started making a couple money do a
couple gigs started touring got on a TV
show and then it then it kind of worked
out was there a moment that where
because when you when you know when the
cancel culture was alive and well that's
when I first encountered you it was
initially on Tik Tok actually sure and
you were on fire because you were saying
stuff nobody else was saying and I
thought how does he even dare to pull
this [ __ ] off and was was there moment
that where you broke or you tipped or no
so I you kind of like it's interesting
you kind of break and then you go away
like so I so I broke on like some MTV
shows and I was you know doing all these
things on MTV had my own shows and all
that kind of stuff and then I kind of
you know the MTV thing kind of dried up
and then I kind of went away but I was
luckily doing this podcast with
Charlamagne and the podcast was very
popular and that was like providing for
me and then I was doing some shows on
the road and you know people would come
out from the podcast but um and then I
really couldn't get any traction in
standup world so when I was doing like
comedy stuff with MTV it wasn't really
in the standup world and it's because my
standup maybe wasn't of the ilk of what
was like popular at the time and I have
a lot of empathy by the way for like the
people who are just working at a network
they're producing these shows like they
their kids in private school I want to
tell a crazy joke about women or gays or
whatever the it is and they're like I'm
not trying to get fired and like I'm
just trying my kids in private school we
just got them into Dalton I don't want
to rock the boat like you know reason
you understand like I don't think that
they're self-preservation exct but I
didn't want to changed my comedy so I
was like okay where can I put it out and
luckily we were putting the podcast out
on YouTube it was successful and I just
started putting things out on YouTube
and I started doing these shows and
these shows started selling out it was
like really weird like the first thing I
put out I sold out the next weekend and
I was never gu sold out how many seats
where these are like 300 seat clubs and
you do maybe four or five shows a
weekend and you get 50 bucks a seat 20
bucks a seat no not even you get a flat
rate you get two grand to do the weekend
or something like that and a lot of
these times the comedy clubs would just
like call people and say hey do you want
to see this guy and give away the
tickets for free it was really the old
model was basically it's like a bar so
you just get the people in and they sell
the drinks so the weekend would sell out
then another one would sell out and I
was like holy maybe maybe there's
something there's a conversion rate that
I didn't see and I kept putting stuff
out on YouTube I would do a new clip
every week for a year on YouTube then I
put these a special on YouTube instead
and then I learned very quickly that
there was this huge like white space in
the market like the comedy on TV was
corny and people didn't really like it
and nobody was putting out like the
quote unquote like real comedy there's
different versions of Comedy but I'm
being very
simplistic and the more edgy stuff I put
on YouTube and it just exploded and um
yeah my career kind of really took off
from there and then covid came around
and there was a I was able to be a
little bit more honest because I wasn't
tied to a network and worried about
maybe losing my job at the network yeah
and then it just I think in America we
reward bravery yeah you just signed a
Netflix deal right I mean you did this
the show yeah we're actually doing the
show in Austin tonight where we're going
to talk with some folks about this
General concept where you start out as
kind of an independent yeah say whatever
you want you're totally free it's your
own platform it's your own voice yeah
and then you go sign a deal with another
platform like are you now you know did
you find it hard to trade the money for
whatever might come along with that
there's restrictions there's you there's
two way two ways to look at it right
it's like there's one like I think that
I don't want to give myself too much
credit here there but like I think that
what we've did is created another
Marketplace for comedy that the
streaming networks had to now compete
with yeah so they were losing Comics to
YouTube because it was more advantageous
to put your comedy up on YouTube and
build a following and then go sell
tickets on the road whereas before the
only way you could like really make a
big chunk of money on your comes if you
got one of these fancy specials now
people are like I don't even want to do
the special because if I put on YouTube
I can tour for years and really build a
fan base so to have this autonomy the
Netflix thing is interesting because
like Netflix is the second biggest I
guess uh streaming service on the planet
it's like YouTube than Netflix so if I
already have this huge imprint on
YouTube it would only be smart for me to
now tap into the second biggest and see
if there's some people there that aren't
consuming my content on YouTube so back
to the so then back to the the guy who's
got the the kid at Dalton now when you
go and negotiate a deal with Netflix are
they basically silent or do they not a
single note yeah so you do whatever you
want and it is what it is let it rip now
my last special was supposed to be with
Amazon so it was with Amazon and they
had some notes and I bought it back from
them and I put it out myself wow really
wow yeah and I sold it I sold it myself
and it actually one of the coolest
things ever because I think I'm may be
one of the only Comics that actually
knows what they're worth yeah you don't
really know what you're well walk us
through that so you do it and what do
the notes say that like
yeah it was two jokes and like I get it
they make money selling toilet paper
like why are they gonna have this huge
you know uh you made fun of the toilet
paper industry I got
it toilet paper Big T very powerful
Lobby you know what's funny is like
culture has changed and I feel like a
lot of times the streamers are like down
river from culture so like I bet now I
would be able to put it out on Amazon
and be totally fine but at that time it
was maybe very edgy and a volatile time
culturally so I was able to put it out
and you know I but you had the choice
right you could have taken the jokes out
and kept it but then instead you took
the harder path which is I'm just going
to buy it back yeah and I take the risk
and I'll figure it out later yeah I I've
I'm not risk averse at all I actually
enjoy risk it kind of excites me but um
what excites me more is like putting out
the piece exactly how I wanted to put it
out and I can't like scream about
censorship and comedians should do the
jokes we want to do and then the second
somebody gives me a big check I go whoa
we don't have to do the like I have to
be at least consistent on that and um
culture continued to change and you got
to give Netflix credit too like they
took a lot of they took a lot of hits
for putting out comedy that some people
thought was maybe a little bit too
offensive the Chappelle stuff Chelle
stuff really that put him in the
crosshairs exact they stood strong right
absolutely they stood strong and like
seeing that gave me a lot of confidence
I was like okay like and they literally
we just made the whole thing and they
just gave us money so like they were not
involved at all in like the creation so
to say
they they're involved in giving us money
for it and then they're involved in the
marketing obviously and their algorithm
and getting it that's all Sandos he's he
believes in comedy yeah but he's like a
huge comedy fan from back in the day I
think people don't realize that about
him like you need somebody who actually
loves the art and is not just looking at
it as a thing that they can monetize
like there's a the term this guy used
that you have to find somebody
spiritually aligned with you and that's
not mumbo jumbo it like they truly
understand the intention of Comedy so
things aren't hurtful or painful to them
because they understand what you intend
to do so and then I got interesting too
they they tried to cancel you what what
was the joke who the the mobs because
they went after Tony Hinchcliffe twice
oh yeah and each time he went 10x they
came after chamath on this program that
was the first level up we got three
times the audience after they tried to
cancel chimal yeah the White House
released the statement it doesn't it
doesn't it doesn't really work when you
have like core fans that believe in you
and I feel like you guys have probably
built that you know the relationship
you've built with your fans there's
probably people very grateful of the
information that you give them and uh so
when they try to paint you in a certain
light you actually have like a hundred
hours of time with those people that
they know you to be more than that one
statement that you've said so now
they're not as concerned about that
thing you said that maybe is taken out
of context or people have been offended
by I think like the biggest thing that
people miss about comedians is like
you're allowed to be offended by the
joke that I say like you're allowed to
react however the [ __ ] want to react
about it you had your life you went
through some crazy [ __ ] maybe you're
maybe you were bullied as [ __ ] as a kid
and like you don't want other people to
potentially have those feelings so you
see a joke that could elicit that and
you're like I want to protect that from
that protect them from that that's kind
of noble I'm like I'm cool with that if
you yourself tell me you don't like me
teasing you I'm not going to tease you
personally ever again I want you to feel
good but it doesn't mean that I won't
continue to make those jokes somewhere
else and I think my shows like I got the
most diverse audience in comedy history
yeah so it's like you come out to one of
my shows you can't tell me that people
don't like these jokes and I tried very
hard to like like if I'm curious about
your culture you'll know it through the
jokes it's not some little [ __ ] like
I'll try to dive deep and even surprise
you about something that I might know
and I think in that way people start to
feel seen and they don't feel bullied
they actually feel like represented and
they're like excited about it look you
you said something at the beginning
which I thought was really interesting
which is you're like a you have to Great
comedians are great observers of culture
so can you can you just tell us like
just observe the cultural moment what we
talked a lot about it but I just want
you to be maybe like put a point on it
where are we where's America what the
hell is going on like What's happen
what's happening however you feel that
question like what the hell is going on
um all-time low confidence in uh
institutions low confidence in
information there's an obs with
conspiracy because there's I mean that's
twofold one like it's the easiest way
for dumb people to feel smart like when
you know something no one else knows and
you get to share with people like
there's that like dopamine hit where
like I bet you didn't know this happened
you know yeah um but those thrive in
times where there's not real
transparency so I think everybody's
looking for answers and nothing is
exactly how it seems and the only way to
reins still that confidence is I think
like brutal transparency like you got to
just be like really honest with the
people this is what it is and we're
Americans we're proud people you know so
we can get through whatever you say but
you got to tell it to us as it is and I
think we're just assessing relationships
right now and I think like when the
economy is rough like you're seeing all
the Jewish stuff right now right like
obviously with the conf crazy well this
is the thing you got to understand like
most people have never met a Jewish
person like most Americans have no clue
what a Jewish person is outside of Kiran
enthusiasm or Seinfeld they don't know
what it is they think Jews are Upper
East Side New Yorkers like yeah the like
Seinfeld or they think it's like hedum
like it's just like one or the other
exactly they don't even know what like a
spartic Jew they don't know what an
African Jew is or a Moroccan Jew they
have no clue what that is and they
shouldn't they're like how many Jews are
there they're like more people from La
than there are Jews right like it's like
a very small population so I think
there's like a little bit of a
disconnect and you know when you don't
know a people and I think this is
probably true I could be off but I think
like an ambient feeling towards Jews
from people who don't know Jews it's an
ambient light and the stereotypes are
probably not like the best they're not
exactly negative as long as the economy
is good right they're like oh they
they're successful they kind of stick
together they they own businesses they
whatever and as long as the econom is
good everybody's cool and then eggs get
expensive and you're Buy on your rent
and you don't feel hope and you don't
and then you start going why do they got
all that what the what are they about
why are they why are they separatists
you know like I'm here prizz and I'm
trying to get everybody to go to heaven
and they just got their own thing what
and it's very easy for them to become
this like other group and then you
extrapolate that with what's happening
like Palestine and and Israel and you
get people to start like assessing like
the relationship between America and
another country like you saw America
become very uninterested in Ukraine
quickly like we we we the second the
economy goes down we start going well
what do they do for us what why are we
giving them like and they're starting to
ask similar questions about Israel and
there's a lot of anti-semites that are
jumping on on it and they're muddying
the whole thing they're going ah this is
what did they control the government
they do this all the every conspiracy is
time by the way you're you're speaking a
profound secret that many
administrations in government have known
for long time and I think this is where
some of the mistrust comes from I talked
about this like maybe it was like a
couple months ago but the most
incredible stock market was actually
under Biden the most amount of money
printed was under Biden the most
cumulative total budget deficits was
under Biden the most amount of
short-term refinancing of debt was under
Biden and part of what you can explain
is that if you keep the signals that
everything is healthy or up you're
allowed to prop all of these other
things that would get very quickly
recapitulated and when you take the gas
out of the market and you take the gas
out of all these other markets and all
of a sudden the price of energy is up
and the price of this is up and the
price of that is up then you start to
question hold on a second why are all of
these things as important you know the
above the line below the line
conversation that we have tried to have
several times on this pot Jason yeah and
you have to like meet people you have to
meet people where they feel in order to
communicate with them right right like
they could like when people right now
are like assessing like America's
relationship with Israel like it's it's
and and they you hear these like sound
bites like that's our closest Ally and
then they go what does that mean it's
like well let's explain to them what
that means like let's explain the
importance of that relationship and how
it's beneficial to Americans because if
you don't explain it and you just go oh
just be quiet whatever then they start
to look at these lunatics on Twitter and
start to go wait a minut is that is that
true yeah and then they're down the
conspiracy Hall like you have to explain
like I don't know what the mineral deal
was about but I know for with with
Ukraine but I know for a second there
are some Americans who go oh we're going
to get some minerals out of that all
right minerals sound good like they're
gonna pay us back it's that it's that
simplistic right so it's like I think I
think that kind of communication is
important and it will actually help
understand these relationships which I
imagine are very important I'm not privy
to all the geopolitical decisions that
are going on there who knows
intelligence from Israel could have
thwarted 20 more 911s yeah maybe you
can't say that because you expose the
intelligence operatives you have in the
field but it it would I think be helpful
to understand the value of that for the
everyday American so that when you see
something crazy on Twitter you can go
okay you're just a anti-semite and
you're looking for a justification for
your hate I mean this is your point
about Trump sometimes he has these take
we'll see you later bro take care David
this is like I think the point there's
going to be conspiracy theory about that
right now I just want to let you know
talked about Israel and he's like the
one Jewish guy left way to go way to go
Shela this is how it starts David David
this is how it starts you drove thanks a
lot you drove them out right chy when
you said um you know Trump's a masterful
kind of Communicator here Biden gave all
these weapons to to Ukraine under the
aices of what's called a lone lease they
have to pay them back but Biden never
communicated that well tell us and then
Trump comes out he's like you know what
we gave them 180 million 180 billion
they're going to give us 500 billion
back we're making a 40 he he basically
described a 42% compounded return sounds
good to me yeah better than anything
that's ever happened I mean he he's out
there in terms of his ability to
communicate at chath as we wrap here any
final thoughts what do you think about
Trump and what he's how he's doing and
what he's doing so far and what do you
think about Elon and Doge oh here we go
okay so uh Trump and what he's doing how
he's doing so far like I I I don't know
like in other words like I don't I don't
know if I can like assess it right away
maybe I'm giving him a little bit longer
uh like landing strip or whatever than
other people because I have a little bit
more hope or optimism I get if you don't
like the guy you're going see how
horrible this is immediately but I'm
going to give him a little bit more
leeway to see if it doesn't work out and
it's really horrible I'll be the first
person to call it out like I I've he's
in power we should definitely check the
people in power but I'm hoping that
these actions in the short term are
beneficial in the long term is everyone
going to work out no um do is like I'm
so depressed about not depressed stupid
but like I'm bummed about because I
don't think there's any American that is
pro waste inefficiency and bloat this
should be a bipartisan issue like all
Americans should be coming together
going oh my God the DMV is gonna get
better this sounds awesome and I think
you know I have a lot of respect for
Elon but I think sometimes on Twitter
he's like twisting knife a little bit
and it's like you don't need to twist
the knife like we all want this this is
something we can come together with as a
country in support this sounds great
don't twist it just kind of let it be
show your wins when you do something
wrong we can acknowledge the things that
we did are wrong and we'll respect that
it bums me that this has become so
partisan and I do understand there are a
lot of people on the left that are
making this partisan as well they're
weaponizing there was there was crazy
clip between Rogan and Elon where Rogan
was like how does all this go down
actually and he's like well I can't
really speak about the corruption
because I'm afraid it would get me
assassinated he's like actually if I
tell you what I know it was the weirdest
like two-minute clip and then they just
kind of left it and moved on and my
brain was like what are they talking
about what what must be going on there I
mean there's a lot of money going out
the door yeah but who's killing Eli like
if we are going to have World War III
don't you want the guy that has the
Rockets to go to Mars on your side yeah
yeah you kind of want the Super Genius
on your side for sure another thing
that's like really interesting to me is
like people keep going people keep doing
these things like what is elon's play
like what is he doing here like is he
actually G to take over and it's like
Elon has been dealing with like local
government for so long trying to push
through like he is not an American
citizen he cannot be president he is at
the highest position he will ever be in
his lifetime in America you can't get
higher than being the right-hand of the
president since you're not from America
you can be president so I think he's
going to behave really well because now
he's in the most powerful position he
will ever be in if you want to talk
about like power plays you gotta watch
out for JD that guy's a that guy's High
emotional intelligence like that that's
somebody that I would be keeping my eyes
on if I'm Trump but Elon he's GNA be a
good he's gonna be your best friend
because it's only downhill if he pisses
Trump off
interesting interesting little
Manchurian Candidate for JD I no no no
I'm not saying that he's gonna do
anything bad but he is like right don't
TR don't treat him light like we got
this don't sleep on JD New Yorkers we do
this all the time we hear someone with
like a Southern accent we think they're
a goofball and it's like right that guy
went from like a broken home to Yale
Appalachia to Yale and then the VP and
he's 40 he's your age he's like 40 he
called Trump Hitler or something and he
ended up as his he said I'm a never
Trump guy he he's so to say that he's
not emotionally intelligent does to say
he doesn't know how to manage up or
whatever that term is he's sappy I hey
keep an eye on him keep an eye on him
for sure all right listen Andrew Schultz
is playing at the Funny Bone on April
16th and 17th he'll be that Chuckles on
the 20th drink minimum two drink minimum
uh by the V you know where to find them
incredible
incredible Netflix special who do you
think who do you B last question who do
you think is the funniest if you had to
take a wild stab at who the funniest
person no me me Jason or free oh oh of
us between the three of you um okay so
you can say me Jason so Jason is the
most like naturally inclined to be funny
he's probably just the most funny being
around uh choth will probably get the
biggest laughs when he says something
funny because he's like he's not asking
for much like he'll just say something
that's like a dart and it will kind of
like hit you and you'll be like oh and
then I think David will like structure
something really funny and you'll be
like oh that was a clever I see how you
did that right there I um I was actually
when I was an astrophysicist shelsea I
am funny myself I did Summer Stock that
would be my take like I think if we're
off the Pod I think chamat says some
like wild sh that everybody goes what
the I think you say that the most that's
what I would say there you go all right
Andy Schultz picks me they have it Mom I
would like to clip that and uh yeah all
right continued success come back
anytime I like the way Schultz
pronounces but I may go to chamath I
like that Cham ch ch yeah chamath is too
it's too used actually we should go to a
different pronunciation I love chamoth
chth is just so it's tough with the it's
tough with the I know you forong but
it's tough with the names from over
there like my podcast co-host Akash
right Akash everybody calls him Akash
now I his name is spelled with two A's
A's a after so it's like a you if it's
got two A's next to each other after you
go there but it's
aash it is tricky but he said like his
parents specifically picked a name he
thought that Americans would be able to
pronounce they calculated that and like
they wereing him I think that's like a I
think that's a really beautiful thing
for a kid like you you go you know like
how much could called they could have
named him John Steve if they wanted it
pron had to keep it real though they
still had keep it real they would keep
eight when I could when I could read and
write English well eight okay cuz it was
my second language and when I saw my
name written out I was like what the fu
did they do to me here what is this my
middle name m name is like 15 other
letters name a name that has math in it
like they knew what they wanted you know
yes they were like if you can if you can
pronounce this you can solve the Pagan
theor true this is this is harder than
thean be an engineer oh I'm so proud of
him he's going to figure it out get us
two month he's going to get us ask a
question Andrew is it racist if I do an
Indian impersonation because I know I
can do Italian and Irish but can I do no
it's funny bro I don't think so but I
think it's like is it the intent I'm
just I don't even think it's the intent
I think if you like if you say certain
things like if you say
B right like if if you say that like
that's like my love like you know if you
say little things that are more than
just the sound but if you tap into the C
like to let them know hey I didn't learn
this from The Simpsons like I learned it
from my buddy's family then I think
you'll see people who are like Indian
Sri Lanka they'll be like oh he oh he
got he's got friends he got he knows he
knows I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead
and until I make my move to commedian
I'm not gonna do it I'm gonna save it to
when I get my uh Tony uh kill Tony set
yeah what's your what's your Korean act
can you do that like can we go through I
can go Korean cuz my wife's Korean and
her dad
I'll tell you my I can cuz my dad my my
father-in-law I I went to China he's an
industrialist he's there and I said Hey
listen I'd like to marry your daughter
and he said okay
two two conditions and I said okay and
he said do it fast and he poked me
Andrew so hard like a reinforced poke
with his finger yeah yeah yeah on my
shoulder got a bruise I'm like oh yeah
and then he goes and I said what's the
second thing he says no funds he says it
just like that and I was like okay
okay I don't marry a daughter no
refunds do it fast and I literally had
to marry her within a year because he
knew he was like listen I got he had
four daughters and he's like I got to
move inventory I love it and I was the
first I married the oldest daughter n
none of the other daughters could get
married until I married my wife which
was the greatest thing I ever did three
beautiful kids you know how it is and uh
listen good luck you going to have a
second and third Shel I know you got
some I hope so man God three is the
right number if you want to go if you
want to do a half Elon you can go with
chamat plan he's on six or seven I'm on
five bro I'm on five five well I mean
anything's possible and then free BG's
on four I'm on three I think three is
the right number I'm going to catch up
boys I'm going to catch up all right
listen continue success thanks for doing
thank you so much for guys
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