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excited today because For the First Time

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In All in history we have a comedian we

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trth real comedian someone that knows

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how to make good jokes all right true

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Andrew I feel like that was a dick to me

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but okay Andrew Schultz is here how we

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do boys thank you for having me Schultz

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pleasure you just you go a you're on a

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heater right now you took time to come

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on the all-in Pod thank you for doing

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that of course your Netflix special yes

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is crushing it top 10 around the world

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it's called life l i pretty cool it's

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about your low sperm tell us yeah I I am

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the face of

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sperm so which that's kind of like crazy

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because you've got a mustache of a 70s

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porn star how is I think I'm

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overcompensating you know I think I got

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to trick people with the stash but in

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reality yeah yeah the balls you're

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firing blanks dude just pure it's bad

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yeah it's h this special is so good this

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special thank you for watching man I

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appreciate it we all watched it we it's

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hilarious and um you got three old guys

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here who also have had to deal with some

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of these issues we've all had you guys

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have IVF you guys do IVF for the babies

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chamat do you want to be honest here or

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you are you on natural did you hit the

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three from hefc Court logo shot what

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happened my first four kids were natural

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my fifth was IVF okay yeah I don't think

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we're surprised there's like two billion

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of you guys you know it it's it's easy

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to get the job done bro you know there

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was a there was a period there was a

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period after the Facebook IPO I swear to

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God I would look at chicks on Instagram

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and get him pregnant it was really it

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was brutal are they coming to collect

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hope not how many settlements you got

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your how many ndas uh all right freeberg

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like yeah we're off to a hot start here

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freeberg you look like you have a low

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sperm count but you have a fourth kit on

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the way but uh apparently what's the

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story are you own natural this is for

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the first time ever nobody knew this

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breaking news freeberg own natural with

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your 3.5 babies

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100% 100% wow a vegan who's shooting

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with a sniper rifle I love I don't

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believe it I don't believe it I'll find

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you guys a great study about veganism

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and libido is that right yeah very

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impressive what does it do reduce the

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woman's exactly

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exactly oh my God I know a place with

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the best roast

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cauliflower let your winners

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ride Rainman

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David and inste we open sourc it to the

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fans and they've just gone crazy with

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iten by the way can I just tell you how

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much I hate cauliflower everywhere I go

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that is the dish I had it for dinner

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last night main course yeah it's the

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main

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course La except it's disgusting there's

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two things they offer you portabello

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mushroom and roasted cauliflower that's

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what Sean does every time you show up at

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the house are you are you a impossible

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meat guy no I don't like that stuff it's

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gross not for me okay okay yeah by the

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way want to hear a quick science corner

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so you know how we talked about yamanaka

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factors there's a roaring

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yes wow he's like yeah I don't care Andy

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this is anyway sure let me let me let me

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hit this real quick because I know we're

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never goingon to get to it because you

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guys just [ __ ] around talking about

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politics science talk

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Shel usit us you know how you can use

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yanaka factors we talked about these to

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basically turn a cell into a stem cell

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right of course what goes on the lab

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Andrew you're familiar with the yamanaka

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everybody knows about the yamanaka

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factors you've been all over it for a

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while dude I've seen squid game yeah

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absolutely now there's you think I don't

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know about the yamanaka factor come

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we're not gonna get I can tell you we're

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not yamanaka Factor everybody knows you

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didn't visit the yamanaka factory when

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you were in Koto I went to the yamanaka

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factory and I swear to God I guy showed

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up 15 minutes late and he stabbed

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himself in the stomach right there right

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there he killed himself right there yeah

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it's called s exactly s Soko in under a

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minute okay never mind we'll come back

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to

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theal so the interesting work going on

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right now is you basically can take any

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cell from a person's body turn it into a

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stem cell and then turn that stem cell

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ultimately into an egg cell so you no

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longer need to go Harvest eggs and so

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you don't need to actually go get the

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eggs from the woman you can make eggs

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from skin cells for example so in the

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next couple of years there's you know

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there's a few little technical

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breakthroughs that are happening right

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now that will enable this where F

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fertility clinics may end up just taking

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a little bit of your skin cell creating

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stem cells creating egg cells and that's

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how we're going to end up doing IVF in

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the future at any age so you can make

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eggs at any age and you can ultimately

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produce Offspring at any age you don't

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need to actually have active healthy

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eggs and this you like that one right

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fantastic because this is a work around

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for the people that are trying to uh ban

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IVF because of the abortion protocol

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they're Bas because they basically light

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Bel uh begins a conception is part of

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their belief right but and the idea you

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could take one egg cell you could take

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one SP make a fered egg yeah but those

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people don't know but like what you do

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with IVF is you try to harvest as many

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as you possibly can because not all of

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them are viable and it's a pretty brutal

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process for the woman to go through but

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if you could just grab something from

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the skin you'd have almost unlimited

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when a woman is born she has all her

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eggs in her body and as she ages those

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eggs get depleted and eventually she

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doesn't have very good viable eggs left

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over so this gets around that problem of

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not having viable eggs we can be very

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selective about the eggs and so there's

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a future here in the next couple of

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years where fertility becomes a simpler

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hopefully easier and more widely

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available service than it is today where

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it's really challenging technically and

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you've got to go do something that's

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invasive and you know you've got to hope

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that there's good healthy eggs and

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there's a good number of eggs and so on

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and so forth so really interesting

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awesome this is awesome SCH did they sit

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you down and give you like the embryos

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that that were viable in the grades and

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the gender and you pick one and what did

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you pick we just pick the best so this

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is a lot of pressure on that first one

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like all the other kids afterwards I

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feel like don't have as much yeah come

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out of the gate strong have a good first

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quarter and then whatever 100% it's all

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good so I gotta ask you wait you didn't

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say if you had I was about to I'm about

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to put it out there I didn't have IVF

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okay but the first time we had the first

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kid wife says hey we're ovul I'm

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ovulating I said put me in the game boom

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first shot half court logo pregnant wow

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bang then she says I want to wait before

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I have the next one you know it's a

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little traumatic to have a kid and she

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waits six years then we try for a year

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nothing for one year so now I'm like man

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we waited too long it's a lot of

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pressure you you talk about this in the

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special it's like for women this is

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anxiety producing so she's like you you

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got to go get checked out and this is

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when the most humiliating day of my life

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occurred I don't know Andy what what it

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was like when you went but uh they found

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all these grifters can they can they

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identify grifters through the microscope

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no no no I walk in and the thing opens

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and there's three women at the counter

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at at the reception and they're like hey

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Jason calacanis you're here to give a

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you know to and I'm like yeah I

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am and then they walk you to a room oh

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that's the spookiest thing yeah yeah

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they walk you to a room and then they

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open it up and it's like some nightmare

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scenario where there's a Motel Eight

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room and there's a couch that's about

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three feet three feet wide and there's a

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towel on it and there's a towel on it

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and that sofa is not cloth for a reason

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no it needs to be cleanable it needs

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to fact looks very much like the hotel

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you're in shelsea I don't know what's

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going on with the Netflix budget why

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think maybe they could put you in the

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Four Seasons or the peninsula it's so

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brutal so you did this right you had go

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the grainy television with the porn it's

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like oh you're lucky you got the TV I

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had I went to the phone I went to the

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phone I I had no nothing I didn't even

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have have any service in there which was

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like another thing that was it was

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annoying so what did you do you roll

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itex it no spank bank you have to go

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that's what I'm talking about the

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Rolodex you roll through all the

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memories think about the memories man of

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my wife and only my wife nobody else

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that's was all those great moments with

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your wife all those great moments maybe

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there was accidentally one or two that

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got left in from when you were on the

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road it's possible some like absolute

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would jump into the dreams that I had

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with my wife that might be possible I

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would never want them to be there but

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obviously now it's the director's C

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there's nothing I could do but yeah it's

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it is also funny how like we dramatize

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our experience we got the easiest thing

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to do in the whole thing we just got to

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go into a room and jerk off as if that's

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hard for us but we're like the room is

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destitute and brutalist and the the

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furniture was

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uncomfortable you

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speaking of jerk offs uh yeah speaking

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of jerk offs Kavin new's got a podcast

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this is uh so I think that this is like

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this is a great idea despite what you

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think about his politics is he a plastic

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bag in the wind yes but it is a great

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demonstration of like how Americans

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admire bravery or courage and we don't

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like [ __ ] and I think that's what the

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Democrats kind of displayed in the last

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I don't want to get too political about

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this like no right your opinion one

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man's opin it's more just like I I

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respond just culturally I don't give a

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about the tribalism and politics but

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I'll just be honest with you so having

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him have like Charlie Kirk right there

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who's like a professional arguer that he

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is whatever you know how like some

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people are like autistic for dinosaurs

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he's that for arguing right and to like

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sit across from him to even address The

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French

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Laundry I was like okay this is actually

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the right thing thing to do so as as as

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easy as it is for us to sit here and go

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okay this guy want just wants to be

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president like this is a dumb thing like

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blah blah blah it's actually what the

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Democrats should be doing so I think we

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need to

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reward I think we need to reward this

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Behavior we want more conversation we

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want conversation with people especially

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that like you may disagree with and like

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the second podcast he put out I thought

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was the most impactful there was one

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piece that was incredibly impactful he's

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talking to some guy I don't know who he

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was some guy grew up in like San

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Francisco he's

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like you know he was talking about the

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taxes and like he's paying all this

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money in taxes in California and what

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does he get from it and then Newsome

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said that like yeah rich people are

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going to pay more but your actual like

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functional tax rate if you're middle

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class would be more if you lived in

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Florida because of the other stuff you

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get taxed

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on this is the type of information that

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like you guys might be privy to but the

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average person doesn't they hop on an

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inter like being human and addressing

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real issues instead of like culture War

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issues and just talking like I think

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he's going culture War like that's

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culture War but he's actually putting

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out valuable information that defends

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the positions he may have taken in

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government that the average person

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doesn't really know like the average

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person like me just goes all right I'm

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in New York I'm getting clipped at 50%

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and 5% city tax like I'm getting crushed

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but if I lived in Florida or Texas I'd

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save 133% and it be a complete wash when

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there might be someone making 50 Grand a

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year and they move from California to

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Texas and they lose money and they don't

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know that because they're just listening

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to Rich guys on podcast talk about how

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much money they save when they move to

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Texas well you don't have to take a shot

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at us but yeah okay A little personal I

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moved to Texas this year it's more of a

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shot at me and freeberg but go okay uh

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Cham your thoughts on Gavin's new

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podcast what do you think you you know

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you were there was famously a little um

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dip of the toe where somebody made a a a

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podcast I'm sorry a landing page that

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you were going to run for governor we we

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had a little fun with that what do you

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think of Gavin what do you think of his

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podcast I think he's an excellent

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politician it's clear he's starting the

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2028 campaign okay I think he's done a

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really good job so far I think Schulz is

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right he is

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unwinding all of

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the kind of like landmines that the

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Democrats have stepped on I think he's

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learned what Kamala did wrong and now

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he's taking this very narrow path which

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is like I'm going to basically disavow

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all the stuff that people don't care

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about so all the gender woke ideology

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stuff I don't think you're going to hear

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him talk about he'll try to drive a

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narrow wedge on these economic issues so

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I don't know I mean I think it's going

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to create a really Dynamic 2028 campaign

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if he gets momentum by the way his

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popularity has gone up which is insane

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which after the fires and all of the

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ineptitude in California all of the

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corporations that have run away all of

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the people that have left the chaos in

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San

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Francisco after all of that he started a

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podcast and his popularity's gone up

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it's really incredible coming around the

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horn freeberg what do you think of Gavin

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Nome look I think the podcast was

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brilliant I think when I watched it I

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was hooked because there were two things

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that I think were critical

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in how he runs it firstly is he is

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showing the first time I think that I

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have ever seen a Democrat do or a

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republican in modern politics active

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listening to the other side it seems so

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crazy that this is some sort of special

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event and special concept but this

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active listening moment where you see a

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politician it totally breaks down the

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Walls where you immediately feel on

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guard or on offense against that person

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because if someone's actively listening

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to you you actually feel like you're on

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the same side somehow and you're trying

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to come to a conclusion together and so

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what that does is it invites the person

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on the other side in this case the

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audience The Listener to be with Gavin

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part of the kind of coming together the

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second thing I think he did that's

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really brilliant is so much of the

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modern political by modalism where

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you're in one camp or the other means

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that everything is a one or a zero you

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know Andrew talked about this we're all

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generally I think none of us would

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consider ourselves political party

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Affiliates we are all generally people

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that like to to think for ourselves on a

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topic or an issue and we don't care

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about what party is associated but the

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way modern politics has evolved is you

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don't debate the topics you debate the

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one or the zero because of what the

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party says my party says this is the

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position therefore I'm a one and you're

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a zero and the other side says I'm the

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one you're the zero meaning everything

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has to be binary I'm completely right

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you're completely wrong and I think what

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Gavin has done is he's shown that these

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are not ones and zeros they're 8020 or

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6040 or

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5545 and he's willing to acknowledge

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that he's showing that you know what we

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might be only 45% right and on so many

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topics the Democratic party has ended up

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slightly wrong they're

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4555 it's not that they're a zero or a

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one they're slightly off on taxes

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they're slightly off on social issues

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and they're off just enough that they

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lost the election they're off just

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enough that they lost tax breast tax

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Andrew 2028 Trump's running for his

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third term versus Gavin Newsome who do

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you vote for I mean we gotta run it back

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for a third term for Trump doubt course

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uh no obviously I believe the it wasn't

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a third term Gavin versus Trump who

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would you go I it's it's I mean I gota

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see what his like policies are and I

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gota see where America is I think that

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like the big misunderstanding with this

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last election is that at least the

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Democrats who are still trying to like

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vilify these figures on the right what

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they don't understand is they think that

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this was like some populist election

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where like people just fell in love with

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Trump and they just loved it for so much

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they would just do whatever he says what

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I think is harder for them to Grapple

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with is the

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self-reflection of a rejectionist vote

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so I think people rejected the

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Democratic proposal 100% And they went

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with what the other alternative was

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which was Trump and exact correct that's

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a way tougher pill to swallow you have

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to look back at everything you've done

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and go wow we're off we're not listening

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to the people this guy listens to the

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people I mean it seems like I'm fluffing

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Trump here but like I would say that his

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greatest skill is listening to what

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people say and I think a lot of times

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there's this IV league pretentiousness

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in the Democratic party where it's like

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we know it's better for you yeah and I

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know you say you want these things you

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don't really want that let us we we

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we've studied and we've talked about it

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in our little thought experiments in

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class so we know what you

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need what you just shut up condescending

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it's condescending exactly so I think

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that like when people go ah the food is

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giving me cancer and then he appoints

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the guy who says the food is bad to run

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the food the American people go well

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that kind of seems like a good thing I I

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like that you know it it is like an

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acute understanding and listening to

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what people are saying and sometimes to

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his disadvantage like he came out

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against that um they were putting some

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like tax on people who drive into

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Manhattan or whatever like yeah

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congestion pricing and ini pricing

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initially people really rejected it

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right and then uh so he was like we're

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getting rid of congestion pricing and

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like two weeks after they put that

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congestion pricing thing everybody I

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knew with a car was like this is the

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greatest thing the city has yeah you can

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actually move right you can take a taxi

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and it's faster than government

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overreach is good

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bureaucracy nice like yeah you want a

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car stay in the Burrows exactly so it's

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you don't get a car in Manhattan explain

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this to people it's a little bit

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egregious I mean you and I do Jason but

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Body El have it exactly Our Lives should

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be different you know what I mean

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absolutely absolutely but mean what's

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the point of us having nice cars if we

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can't drive them whenever we want yes

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yes and you know we grew up at a time on

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the lower e side uh you know you could

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go to Tribeca we could go to Club

18:45

Limelight you could park outside the

18:47

Limelight at night you could go to

18:48

Palladium you could park on 14th Street

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I park right on 14th Street okay I go

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used to be a church right and then you

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know I sniff pop ecstasy you do a little

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whatever

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the morning listen you goofballs between

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your stupid mustache and your OIC turkey

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neck I am

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totally turkey go to something useful

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are we GNA let Chamas sit there in

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MacGyver's funeral outfit tell us that

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we're goofballs this guy's wearing a

19:17

vest with a collar he looks like he's

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going to a Punjabi wake I can't believe

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that he would even talk about the way

19:24

that you're dressed and how you look

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this is custom Laura piano boys this is

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Laur really what does it look like you

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got it at Zara all right listen um but

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more importantly let's stay on track yes

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yes we got to stay on track can I tell

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you guys something about uh tariffs from

19:39

a Layman yes please like you guys are

19:41

cutely aware of maybe how these things

19:43

affect markets and yada yada yada and

19:45

most people don't have any [ __ ] clue

19:47

so the the the average person right I

19:51

look at this and I'm like man it kind of

19:54

sucks that you got to like negotiate

19:56

your like your bid for a car you're

19:58

going to buy publicly right so this is

20:01

my assumption and maybe I'm like a

20:02

little bit more optimistic than most

20:04

about the administration but if I go to

20:07

buy a car and the car is let's said 100K

20:09

and I go offer the guy 80

20:12

right I don't want everybody around me

20:15

yelling out like how can you insult him

20:17

by offering him 80 this is an insult and

20:19

then I I can't go to them and I go I'm

20:21

actually trying to settle it 90 I'm just

20:23

saying 80 so he comes down a little bit

20:26

but the unfortunate thing when you

20:27

litigate these things in front of the

20:28

entire world is that they look at that

20:30

first measure there 200% taxes and Trump

20:33

can't bulk at it he can't go yo I'm just

20:35

[ __ ] I'm just playing around with

20:36

that number I actually just getting them

20:38

to come down 20% or 10 getting to come

20:40

down anything is a win he can't say that

20:42

because he loses all his leverage so

20:44

he's got to sit here and then get

20:45

criticized by I don't know if it's half

20:47

the country I don't know you know who

20:49

really ends up caring about what these

20:50

tariffs do obviously they're

20:52

repercussions in the market I got a

20:53

buddy of mine building a hotel out in

20:55

Joshua Tree and he's like I don't even

20:56

know if I can get brought into the

20:58

country from Canada so it does affect

20:59

people in real time but it's impossible

21:01

to do these negotiations with any

21:03

leverage if you have the people within

21:05

your own country questioning your

21:07

ability to negotiate in real time that

21:09

is what the Layman would think well I do

21:12

think you're right in the sense that in

21:14

the early days when Trump was talking

21:16

about tariffs initially everyone was

21:18

like oh my God he's going to use tariffs

21:19

he's unpredictable and then the

21:22

narrative became he's using it as a

21:23

negotiating tactic the problem is just

21:26

like in poker once everyone knows that

21:28

there's this kind of action it's

21:31

exploitable and so this is now kind of

21:33

an exploitable mode of negotiation where

21:35

everyone now assumes he's just trying to

21:37

negotiate so no one actually takes him

21:39

seriously the question now is the

21:41

response going to be that he's going to

21:42

be serious about it or is he actually

21:44

exploitable and you saw what China's

21:47

response was I kind of view China as

21:48

like AI like stuff goes into China the

21:51

AI processes it and it comes back out

21:53

China is like obviously the way they're

21:55

kind of structured you have very little

21:57

psychosocial bias like you do with other

21:59

democratic governments it's very

22:01

systematic it's systematically processed

22:03

every piece of data is systematically

22:05

processed every action is systematically

22:06

processed and so I think when you look

22:08

at how the Chinese Ambassador responded

22:10

to Trump on Twitter a few weeks ago

22:13

where they're like you want war we'll

22:14

give you War this is a hot war or a cold

22:15

war whatever you want we've never seen

22:17

that from an ambassador to the United

22:19

States president before done on Twitter

22:21

like this let alone the Chinese

22:23

Ambassador so I think it says a lot

22:25

about how the Chinese AI is processing

22:28

the Trump negotiating tactic or the

22:30

Trump positioning statements on tariffs

22:32

which indicates that there may be now I

22:34

mean we can talk about what game theory

22:35

optimal play might be in this kind of

22:37

poker game What's going to come next but

22:39

there's a a real assessment that they've

22:41

made on how far he is willing to take it

22:43

they've got a conclusive statement and

22:44

they believe that this is the fastest

22:46

way to kind of win their negotiating

22:47

position but it says a lot about where

22:49

this is all going everyone now

22:51

understands or views this as an

22:52

exploitable moment which unfortunately

22:54

means that tariffs may not work or

22:55

they're actually going to have to stick

22:57

which can be really

22:59

yeah it could be painful could be

23:00

painful for every your thoughts on the

23:03

to and Andrew's position what is the I

23:06

think it's it's like 120 some odd years

23:09

Nick maybe you can find this tweet that

23:10

I had but almost the majority of years

23:14

as a nation or close to a majority of

23:16

the years as a

23:18

nation we had no income tax and the way

23:23

that we would fund the programs that we

23:25

needed was not from insiders but from

23:28

Outsiders and that's where the Tariff

23:30

was born right it's people domestically

23:33

in America don't pay any taxes on the

23:35

things that they do and instead if you'd

23:37

like to sell into the United States you

23:39

pay a reasonable tax so this is the so

23:42

how many years so it's 126 years from

23:44

1776 to

23:46

1861 then we paused it for a few years

23:49

because of the Civil War we restarted

23:51

again in

23:51

1872 and you notice when it stopped when

23:54

it stopped was right around World War I

23:56

where this entire War Machine broke out

23:58

and and we've never looked back so I

24:01

don't know I think that one way to think

24:03

about this is we're probably going to go

24:05

back and

24:07

Explore isn't it better if we have this

24:11

incredibly vibrant and rich country of

24:13

330 million people with a ton of

24:14

purchasing power what happens if we put

24:18

the burden not on them to fund the

24:21

American infrastructure and social

24:23

programs and safety net but if we put

24:25

the burden on all the companies in the

24:27

other seven .7 billion people in the

24:30

world in the 185 plus countries that

24:33

want access to these folks should there

24:35

be exceptions probably should there be

24:38

waivers in very specific and narrow

24:40

cases

24:42

absolutely but I think that that's where

24:44

these guys are going and I think that

24:46

you heard this by the way yesterday from

24:48

Howard lutnick I don't know if you guys

24:49

saw this but he said the Trump tax plan

24:51

is going to cut federal income taxes to

24:54

zero for anybody making 150k or less saw

24:57

that

24:59

it's crazy what would the vulnerability

25:00

in that be like putting the burden on

25:04

all of these expenses that we would

25:07

incur on other countries what would that

25:09

vulnerability for us be there are two

25:12

the first we keep the expenses that's

25:16

that's the key if we keep the tars if we

25:17

charge them to come into the market we

25:19

charge them an extra 25% but it's we we

25:21

talked about this last week if you cut

25:22

the budget then it's it can be net

25:24

neutral that's part of what they said

25:26

got it but he's saying what is the

25:27

Strategic vulnerability I think the

25:29

Strategic vulnerability is too the the

25:31

thing with tariffs is and you're

25:33

pointing out this let's just say today

25:36

you say there's a tariff and then

25:37

tomorrow you say oh we've found an

25:39

agreement and we're going to take it off

25:40

the table one piece of logic would say

25:43

wow that's great we're able to change

25:45

our mind on a dime the problem for

25:47

countries and companies is that they

25:50

can't think in 24-hour blocks of time

25:53

right they're making decisions in five

25:55

and 10 year blocks of time it's like I'm

25:57

going to go and borrow a billion

25:59

I'm going to go and build a data center

26:00

I'm going to borrow 10 billion I'm going

26:02

to build tanks once you start that you

26:05

can't just stop it and then restart it

26:08

so that's one strategic problem which is

26:10

that if you are not careful some of

26:13

these markets that are really crucial

26:15

I'll give you one which we talked about

26:17

last week right now 95% of all of the

26:20

energy we generate in America is from

26:22

Renewables whether you like it or not

26:24

that's just what it

26:26

is the reason why that's possible is

26:28

because America has a very sophisticated

26:31

Market where all these people come from

26:34

all corners of the world insurance

26:36

companies life insurance companies Banks

26:38

and they fund all of it and the reason

26:41

is they can take a tax credit they can

26:43

lower their effective tax rate they get

26:45

a higher rate of return it's all super

26:46

complicated but the point is these

26:48

incentives exist if all of a sudden

26:51

you play around with that market half

26:55

that energy would go away electricity

26:57

prices would rise inflation goes up and

27:00

then if we have to go and compete

27:02

against China for AI and a bunch of

27:04

other stuff where is the energy going to

27:06

come from you're going to Brown out

27:07

people you're going to just turn their

27:08

energy off so that you can fund a data

27:10

center so that the Tik Tock algorithm is

27:12

better that's literally what we would

27:13

have to decide so that's that's one way

27:17

and then the second way is if you're

27:19

providing a critical service or a good

27:22

to American people for which there is no

27:26

alternative that becom really

27:28

problematic because that person can then

27:30

pull that product and say I can't afford

27:32

to make it the obvious example is if you

27:35

make pharmaceutical drugs for rare

27:37

diseases what do you do and again those

27:39

are all things that are like multi-

27:42

deade long decisions yeah you'd love to

27:45

make them and unchange them at every 24

27:47

hours but it's just not possible because

27:49

like you just make these decisions and

27:50

you're stuck with them for a long time

27:52

that's where the tarff thing becomes

27:53

problematic if you change them often

27:55

enough if you implement them and you're

27:57

like this is what it's going to be the

28:00

world can adapt and people can figure it

28:01

out I mean the other problem is just the

28:03

communication of this has been terrible

28:05

we were on the program last week or two

28:06

weeks ago Joe lale is like this is about

28:08

fentanyl so is it about fenol is it

28:10

about getting rid of income tax at the

28:12

federal level is it about supply chain

28:14

resiliency these guys get like a D in my

28:18

grade book for communication it's

28:20

terrible communication and this idea

28:23

that you can't take Trump too seriously

28:25

about his claims like well he said he

28:28

was gonna overturn roie Wade he did it

28:30

he said he was gonna close the border

28:32

and send people home he did that you

28:34

know yeah he said he'd do a Muslim ban

28:36

he actually did that so for every time

28:38

he says something and you're like that's

28:40

cap no way he's going to do that I

28:43

actually think people are starting to

28:44

realize he's going to do something here

28:46

with these tariffs they're not just a

28:47

negotiating position and the other

28:49

problem I think a lot of people have

28:51

with this is it's centralize his power

28:53

anybody can go to Trump now and say I

28:55

want an exception I'm you know a car

28:57

company I want an exception I'm a Solar

28:59

Company I you know I need an exemption

29:01

and then now you've got everybody going

29:03

to Mar Lago to Kiss the Ring to give him

29:05

a donation to bow down and it

29:07

centralizes more power with them as

29:09

opposed to having rules yes and we need

29:11

to have rules in this country that apply

29:13

to everybody not just people who give a

29:14

million dollars like Bezos and Tim Cook

29:17

and everybody and Zuck The Weather Vein

29:19

gave him we don't want to live in that

29:21

world where you're just bribing Trump to

29:23

get your tariff and that's how people

29:25

feel that's how the business Community

29:27

feels that's the reality right now

29:29

people are bribing Trump giving him a

29:31

million dollars to the inauguration to

29:32

get close to him to go to Mara Lago and

29:34

it looks really bad you need to have a a

29:37

clear strategy here for what the rules

29:40

of the game are and he's changing the

29:42

rules so you have to go to him and he's

29:44

he loves that that's actually I think

29:46

what he's trying to do is get everybody

29:48

to go through him it's a really clever

29:49

hack I think yeah and perception is

29:52

reality so you have to react to people's

29:53

perception like we can throw data points

29:55

all we want at people and we can throw

29:57

research and all this other [ __ ] but if

29:58

people aren't meeting you there then

30:00

you're not going to be communicating

30:01

with them effectively and I think that

30:03

uh that's something that like you know

30:05

especially you guys need to know you

30:06

guys have pretty information that the

30:08

average American probably is not and we

30:11

can [ __ ] and complain about how they

30:12

don't read or how they're not looking up

30:14

you know what happened in 1913 to change

30:16

the course of American history and how

30:18

we started te or we can go okay we need

30:20

to find a way to disseminate this

30:22

information so that they can make these

30:24

decisions and I guess or feel

30:26

comfortable with the results of these

30:28

decisions do you think America would be

30:31

okay with this idea of taxing Outsiders

30:33

and then relying on it versus income tax

30:38

paid by its own citizens I think that

30:40

the second half is really all that would

30:42

matter I think that people are fig I

30:44

think the majority of people are

30:45

thinking about the next week so if you

30:47

say that I don't have to pay taxes like

30:49

and I think this is what Republicans are

30:51

doing way better than Democrats right

30:52

now is like Democrats don't have build

30:54

the wall they don't have slogans they

30:56

don't have things that immediately tap

30:58

into like core emotional feeling

31:00

regardless if you're going to do it or

31:01

not we want Greenland okay that's cool

31:03

Democrats need eggs or a dollar

31:06

Democrats need things that like Echo

31:08

their sentiments and how they want to

31:10

like take care of people and provide for

31:11

the disenfranchise but it has to be done

31:13

in a way where it's digestible you can

31:15

chew on it if you want to make housing

31:17

more affordable then you say yeah we're

31:19

seizing public land we're building

31:20

10,000 units like you have to tap into

31:23

what Americans need which is a feeling

31:25

of not just Comfort every American

31:28

thinks they're going to be a millionaire

31:29

that's what this country drives off of

31:32

right it's every poor American that hope

31:34

that hope yeah and the second they stop

31:36

thinking they will be they or they can

31:39

be or they can be it falls apart and

31:42

then some healthcare CE gets shot and

31:44

people celebrate they're they're

31:46

celebrating because they no longer feel

31:48

the hope that they could be in that

31:50

position yeah they feel so

31:52

disenfranchise they they and this is

31:54

what like I'm telling you like the you

31:56

guys of the world need pay close

31:58

attention to because there's going to be

32:00

no empathy if anything bad happens oh

32:02

the stock market is down no Americans

32:04

are invested in the stock market like

32:06

all you I've been saying it no no no

32:08

I've been saying this for months country

32:10

I've been saying it for months nobody

32:11

cares about the stock market nor should

32:13

we and the reason is because we people

32:17

who own these assets have overly

32:19

benefited more than we've deserved for

32:22

the last 15 years ever since the great

32:24

financial crisis in the United States

32:27

people who as Jason said could cozy up

32:29

and by the way Jason I think the the the

32:32

claim that you made which is is is

32:36

severely true for how from 2007 up until

32:40

now has played out because if you look

32:43

under all the

32:44

programs if you could have lobbied Obama

32:47

in those critical years of the GFC yep

32:51

oh my God the amount of money that was

32:53

no because we we took interest rates

32:55

literally to zero anybody like us who

32:57

could have gone and gotten levered up

32:59

and gone into the stock market was

33:00

richly rewarded and the problem is we

33:03

left everybody else behind and I think

33:06

the great thing about Trump is he is

33:08

going to reset that he is going to take

33:11

a lot of wealth away from asset holders

33:13

you're seeing it every day 500 billion

33:16

500 billion there is no sympathy I think

33:19

it's

33:20

fantastic that's that's great to it's

33:23

great to hear you even saying that

33:26

because I feel like a lot of people that

33:27

are in maybe your guys position don't

33:31

understand that disconnect and that is

33:33

important to understand there like even

33:35

what happened in the Palisades like in

33:37

LA with like the fire the second people

33:39

heard it was like rich people's houses

33:41

there was no empathy for it they didn't

33:43

a million dollar house you yeah was like

33:46

and it it is I don't even have a house I

33:48

can't find a house you burned your house

33:50

down and you move you went back you went

33:52

to your vacation house now oh I'm sorry

33:53

you're living at your ski house that's a

33:55

tragedy like literally you're right it

33:57

probably explains why we don't hear

33:59

anything in the news anymore about

34:00

anything that's happening with respect

34:01

to reconstruction or any of the disrup

34:05

it's a rich person problem people and

34:07

you know I think putting together what

34:08

you just said schultzy and and uchim off

34:11

Trump is a master at connecting with

34:14

people and listening to them I thought

34:16

the one of the greatest things he he he

34:19

he did during this last election is when

34:20

he said no tax on tips when he said no

34:23

tax on tips he was going right for

34:24

Nevada he was going right for that swing

34:26

state you know to get those those folks

34:28

who live off tips but what he was also

34:30

doing is saying I know that there's a

34:32

bunch y'all that sometimes get cash tips

34:35

you put in your pocket it's the gray

34:36

Market I get it you know I run a you

34:39

know I I got caddies who get a hyy from

34:41

you know whatever taking somebody out on

34:43

the course we're just going to make it

34:45

official you don't get tax on tips

34:46

because we know that you're you know

34:47

you're the bottom third of the country

34:49

in terms of your economic power those

34:51

kind of statements really do connect

34:54

with people Trump has just mastered this

34:56

this party is Trump is the Democratic

34:58

party that we grew up with it's kind of

35:00

crazy it's kind of crazy right and then

35:03

the Democrats became this elitist group

35:05

that seem to be in the pocket of

35:06

business interest I don't know what

35:07

Bizarro World we're living well that I

35:09

think you tapped into it right there

35:10

it's like uh I think that they they

35:13

could easily win the next election if

35:15

they made it a class war but they don't

35:17

because it feels like they're in the

35:19

pockets of these billion dollar

35:21

corporations so they can't really I mean

35:24

Bernie did it really effectively right

35:25

like this random Jew in Maine or

35:28

something like that is like yo we got to

35:30

get some money from these rich people

35:32

give it back to the poor and all of the

35:33

sudden all of America turned him into

35:35

like our surrogate grandfather so you

35:38

can and then he got shived by Hillary

35:40

and the Machine and and I mean what did

35:43

they say about his fans like they went

35:45

very specifically they're like he has a

35:47

his the Bernie Bros have a sexism and

35:51

bigotry problem right they made him

35:53

radioactive right so now you killed the

35:56

working class now the working class is

35:57

no longer supporting the Democratic

35:58

party so who do they have left they have

36:01

the identity politics groups so they

36:03

can't piss off the identity politics

36:04

groups because they're like that's all

36:05

we got left they did the same [ __ ] with

36:08

us during the election right they're

36:09

like the podcast Bros have a sexism amb

36:12

bigotry problem they they try to make

36:14

people radioactive and it's like that

36:15

card's been played so many times that

36:17

people are desens anymore I think

36:19

there's one big shoe left to drop I

36:21

think we've started the process of

36:22

really really taking a bunch of heat out

36:24

of the asset markets like equities so

36:26

we've taken trillions and trillions of

36:28

dollars of wealth away I think we're

36:30

going to take trillions more but the

36:32

next big market and this is actually

36:34

where Andrew to your point we

36:35

reestablish some hope I think for a lot

36:38

of people is we are going to whack the

36:40

housing market it's just going to happen

36:42

and let me just say something about how

36:44

is that GNA happen J explain it because

36:45

there's 7 million homes that we still

36:47

need to build to to service just current

36:50

demand how does that actually happen

36:51

with the supply demand problem in your

36:53

mind there are a bunch of mechanisms

36:57

that have to get cleaned up right now

37:00

okay so one mechanism is that there are

37:02

a whole host of mortgages that are

37:05

basically being propped up they it was a

37:07

program that's that really got out of

37:09

control under the Biden Administration

37:12

Nick you can find this article is in the

37:13

Wall Street Journal we are going to

37:14

figure out how to get these two

37:17

government related agencies Fanny May

37:19

and Freddy Mack out of what's called

37:21

conservatorship and these are the folks

37:23

that are responsible for

37:24

essentially wrapping guarantees around

37:27

mortg so that the mortgage Market can

37:29

function the details don't particularly

37:31

matter that much but the point is that

37:34

what we are doing is we are

37:37

unwittingly propping up with American

37:40

taxpayer

37:41

dollars the US housing market why is

37:44

that bad it is locking an inordinate

37:48

number of people from that first

37:50

critical step that actually makes them

37:52

feel like they are winning and they're

37:54

on their way to achieving their dreams

37:56

which is can I make a it on a home and

37:58

then can I live this out and you have

38:00

these artificially inflated prices all

38:04

around the country as a result of this

38:06

so I think this next wave is deeply

38:09

beneficial to the middle class which is

38:12

there is no reason like you guys see it

38:14

when you read The Wall Street Journal I

38:17

think it is the dumbest [ __ ] in the

38:18

world when I see an article which is

38:20

like this house just is $65 million on4

38:24

acres in some Rando place in Miami

38:27

I was thinking Malibu but yeah but what

38:30

is this this makes no sense and so when

38:33

you rationalize a bunch of equity

38:37

values and you rationalize the cost of a

38:41

home I think what you're going to do is

38:43

you're going to allow a lot more people

38:45

to find a more reasonable way to enter

38:46

the housing market and I do think that

38:49

that's a really big step in allowing

38:50

them to feel like they're part of the

38:51

dream so you lower asset prices you can

38:55

own some stocks maybe you own a 401k or

38:57

if you've never had a 41k but your

38:59

employer offers it for the first time it

39:02

may actually make Financial sense to put

39:03

a small amount of it in there you've

39:05

never been able to own a home all of a

39:07

sudden home prices are whacked 30 or 40%

39:09

you're able to do that because of how

39:12

Trump goes after the budget when his

39:15

rate of borrowing for the US government

39:16

goes down your mortgage rate goes down

39:18

now all of a sudden you can enter in

39:20

because home prices are less and you can

39:21

actually get a mortgage they may all

39:24

seem very random but they can come

39:26

together in giving 50 60 million people

39:30

a shot that they have been screaming

39:31

since the great financial crisis they

39:33

don't have this is so huge because on

39:35

like a core emotional level you want as

39:38

many Americans as possible invested in

39:41

American success and Excellence totally

39:44

and the the greater the Delta between

39:47

like them and their first home or their

39:48

first investment at stock the greater

39:50

that distance the more disillusioned

39:52

they become in America in general when

39:54

they feel like like you said earlier

39:56

like the way you guys got into the

39:58

market when you could basically take out

39:59

loans for nothing and then you saw these

40:01

incredible gains they feel left behind

40:03

the second they feel like they're in on

40:05

it they own apartment they own some

40:07

shares of Tesla that's why crypto is so

40:09

popular is because they're feel like

40:11

it's their only access I got yeah it's

40:13

like yeah it's like comedy in some ways

40:15

like all I need is a microphone or music

40:17

like there's a path for me and crypto

40:19

obviously is a giant [ __ ] scam it's a

40:21

scam Shore but I can get a piece of this

40:23

I can get a piece of this this American

40:25

dream and I would rather that they were

40:28

invested in uh you know a Vanguard

40:30

account or something like that I would

40:31

rather they're invested in the entire

40:33

Market I mean there's this this idea and

40:35

I'm sure you poke holes and tons of

40:37

holes into it and but this idea like

40:39

every American Born gets a thousand

40:41

bucks put into a friend of ours Brad

40:43

gersner with this of invest America is

40:45

the concept and regardless if the

40:47

concept is good or not the emotional

40:49

connectivity to the success of American

40:51

industry is really important when you

40:54

know at 22 that you could get this thing

40:56

that's compounding for 22 years you

40:59

could pay off some college loans you

41:00

could put something down on a house you

41:02

could pay for trade school whatever it

41:03

is I think you have a different energy

41:05

towards America and its success and then

41:07

you have a lot less of these kids who

41:09

are just like America is this horrible

41:10

place and capitalism is bad yeah

41:11

capitalism is bad when you're left

41:13

behind when you're invested in

41:14

capitalism it's the [ __ ] baby absolutely

41:18

we're on the express train let me give

41:19

you guys um I did an analysis I was I

41:23

wasn't sure if I should put it out but

41:24

I'll tell you guys the numbers

41:27

the US Social Security program is meant

41:30

to be kind of the retirement program for

41:32

folks that don't have access to private

41:34

retirement accounts okay and this

41:37

program was set up in the 1930s after

41:41

the Great Depression and there's a trust

41:43

fund the OASDI which is the the fund

41:46

that they invest to Capital so every

41:48

year we all put money in with our social

41:49

security taxes out of our paychecks goes

41:51

in there and it gets invested you know

41:53

what it gets invested

41:54

in it gets invested in one thing us

41:58

treasuries which have averaged about

42:00

4.8% return since the beginning of the

42:03

program per year meanwhile what if you

42:05

put it into the market meanwhile the S&P

42:07

has been averaging 11% so here's the

42:09

math if in 1971 which was the year that

42:13

we went off the gold standard in the

42:14

United States if we invested the Social

42:17

Security trust fund in the S&P the

42:19

balance of the Social Security trust

42:20

fund today would be $15

42:23

trillion that would be roughly onethird

42:25

of the value of the total S&P 500 which

42:28

would be jointly owned by all Americans

42:31

who took their Capital now here's what's

42:33

Fed Up what's fed up is that the middle

42:35

class people who had access to private

42:37

retirement accounts benefited by buying

42:39

the S&P 500 and the wealthy were able to

42:41

access it so all of the equity value

42:44

that accured from American Enterprise

42:46

and the prosperity of the American

42:47

system accured to the people that had

42:49

access to the private accounts meanwhile

42:51

the people that only had access to the

42:52

Public Accounts got stuck owning

42:54

treasuries today the Social Security

42:57

trust fund has $2.7 trillion balance and

42:59

based on the outflows and inflows it's

43:00

going to go bankrupt in

43:02

2032 that means Social Security is

43:04

either going to get cut or the fed's

43:06

goingon to print a ton of money to keep

43:07

Social Security benefits retirement age

43:09

goes up a little bit Yeah there a lot of

43:11

levers yeah wow so I did the math if you

43:14

assume that the S&P 500 continues to

43:16

grow at 10 and a half% a year on average

43:18

there's ups and downs and sure there

43:20

could be basically draw downs and all

43:21

these other sorts of things but here's

43:23

the important point we could put about

43:25

$500 billion in the trust fund today and

43:27

it will not go bankrupt again and it

43:29

will continue to grow every year and

43:31

then all Americans have participation in

43:33

American Enterprise and importantly this

43:35

becomes the world's largest Sovereign

43:37

wealth fund ever you don't need a

43:39

separate Sovereign wealth fund we

43:40

already have one it's it's called It's

43:42

called The Social Security trust fund

43:44

and what we've done is we've totally

43:46

mismanaged it and I went back to trying

43:47

to understand why this is the case why

43:49

have we only ever bought treasuries

43:51

early on the US needed someone to loan

43:53

money so they basically forced the

43:55

citizens to loan the government money

43:57

the form of treasuries but today the

43:59

Social Security trust fund owns only

44:02

less than 10% about 8% of the total

44:04

treasury bonds outstanding the rest are

44:05

owned by the fed and foreign investors

44:07

and private investors and others that

44:08

want to own it so why are we forcing all

44:10

the American citizens toing up for no

44:12

reason and and we're we're discouraging

44:15

access so basically we've created

44:17

through the Social Security System we've

44:18

created the Deep inequity we see in this

44:20

country If instead we had allowed the

44:23

social security system to invest in the

44:25

S&P 500 to buy American Enterprises to

44:28

fund American businesses then every

44:30

American would be wealthy and that

44:32

middle class that uniquely participated

44:34

by basically arbitraging the market

44:36

where they forced the treasury bond

44:38

yields on the poor and they got to take

44:40

access to the equity yields would have

44:42

not happened yeah they had 401ks

44:46

rightt and they were able to participate

44:48

by with brokerage accounts and buying

44:49

the market what we can do right now is

44:51

we can fix it and here's the important

44:53

Point people will then argue oh what if

44:55

there's a down year or two down year in

44:56

a row you know what we're already going

44:58

to be printing money to make up the hole

45:00

in Social Security we're not going to

45:01

let Social Security go bankrupt we're

45:03

not going to let it dry out so we're

45:04

already going to print money to make the

45:06

Social Security whole so if that's the

45:08

case we can create a a back stop for

45:10

Social Security we're g to have to do it

45:12

either way but we might as

45:14

well we might as well take on the go

45:17

yeah no no no chth you were gonna say

45:19

something the reason why we didn't do it

45:21

goes back to what you said before which

45:22

is we have a bunch of we had a bunch of

45:25

very quote unquote well-educated ivy

45:28

league trained people running these

45:30

institutions and the feedback I don't

45:33

even know what it said but I can tell

45:34

you what the memo said there's too much

45:37

risk we've sensitized this model it

45:39

doesn't make sense this is the safest

45:41

thing to do so it goes back to just like

45:44

we need a little bit more practical

45:46

thinking like at the end of the day why

45:48

the S&P 500 exists is of all the

45:51

thousands and thousands and thousands of

45:53

companies in the world you know how many

45:54

companies in the world make more than a

45:56

billion a year more than

45:59

20,000 and of that 20,000 the S&P 500 is

46:04

just the 500 best it's the best of the

46:07

best of the best so to your point

46:08

freeberg it didn't take a PhD from

46:11

Harvard to figure out that if you just

46:13

owned an index of the absolute 500 best

46:16

things happening at any given point in

46:19

it would have gone up so since when do

46:21

America since when are Americans risk

46:24

intolerant like there's something baked

46:26

in into the DNA of the people that

46:29

decide to leave their families and move

46:31

here totally immigrant country and to

46:33

your point imagine logging in like like

46:35

we've all had I'm assuming a 401k

46:37

account and I remember how exciting it

46:39

is to log in and see the account and

46:41

Schult I want to say something that's

46:42

really important like you talk about us

46:44

people like you know earlier on the

46:45

commentary which is something I hear a

46:47

lot my first job was making $425 an hour

46:50

cleaning toilets in a pool hall in

46:52

Upstate New York jamath has similar

46:54

stories jcal has similar stories like

46:56

any of us that that 455 Canadian working

46:59

at Burger King yeah and I had like and

47:01

then well the worst part about my job in

47:03

the pool hall was that then the manager

47:04

made me go play poker at his house and

47:06

he took all the money back which I stole

47:08

I stole the chicken fingers at night

47:10

bring them home my mom would my mom

47:12

would whip him up but it was so exciting

47:14

in my career in my life to be able to

47:17

like go from that moment to the moment

47:19

where I had a 401k and I could log in I

47:21

could see the businesses that I owned

47:22

and I understood that and I saw the

47:24

value go up and I got to participate

47:25

that imagine if every American when when

47:27

you get your Social Security statement

47:29

today all it tells you is a dollar

47:31

amount and how much you're going to get

47:31

in the future imagine if you logged in

47:33

and you got to see all the businesses

47:35

you own a piece of and you got to

47:36

participate conect every single day be

47:38

lighting a Tesla we can fix this and by

47:41

the way we can solve both The Sovereign

47:42

wealth fund question and the Social

47:44

Security trust fund question every

47:46

dollar that's going into these Sovereign

47:48

wealth fund ideas or if they come to

47:49

fruition or in my opinion and obviously

47:51

I haven't spoken facts about this but

47:53

the crypto fund and all this other sort

47:54

of stuff every dollar that should go

47:56

into the social Social Security trust

47:57

fund and that Social Security trust fund

47:59

should be for the benefit of all

48:01

Americans and it should be equities it

48:03

should be ownership it should be

48:04

participation in what the American

48:07

dream the American dream enabled us all

48:09

to succeed and it should enable everyone

48:11

else to participate in shares and equity

48:13

in American Enterprise that can come to

48:15

Market so it's not about a thousand

48:16

bucks on your born it's about an ongoing

48:18

participation putting your money in and

48:20

having that money allocated in a way

48:22

that America that smart and Wealthy

48:24

Americans get to allocate it which is

48:26

into owning and businesses that's it

48:28

Shelty yeah go no I I think it's great I

48:31

hopefully you guys don't feel like I'm

48:32

Like discrediting You by saying you guys

48:34

but I'm just trying to give you guys I

48:35

think a great it's an important framing

48:37

because it's like it you're you're 100%

48:40

right but like I you know we see

48:41

comments on YouTube like oh you guys and

48:43

I'm like dude I remember like it feels

48:46

like yesterday when I was in fraking

48:48

debt I graduated college with a bunch of

48:50

debt and I went and like found a job and

48:52

worked my ass off and I was working 20

48:54

hour days and never slept and like you

48:56

know it wasn't easy I mean I feel like

48:58

very emotional about this right now

48:59

sorry hang

49:00

on

49:03

um listen it it wasn't easy bro it

49:07

wasn't given to you none of us inherited

49:09

none of us inherited we we we came to

49:11

America and to see the joy to to see

49:14

what we all benefited from I'm getting

49:15

emotional about this but it's like well

49:17

it's because the American dream's broken

49:20

we got to fix

49:21

it to have people talk about it as if as

49:24

if being successful and and getting

49:27

there is a crime it a bad person it's a

49:31

Dream It's a dream schy go I think the

49:33

the framing this is very important like

49:35

my mom is also an immigrant right she

49:37

came here from Scotland she has no

49:38

education I think she stopped going to

49:40

school at like 14 or something like that

49:41

comes to America and she's this massive

49:44

success here in terms of like where she

49:46

came from where she got to right and

49:47

what she was able to buy she was able to

49:49

buy a home in the East Village of New

49:51

York City she able to buy a beach house

49:53

like just off of like grind and hard

49:55

work yeah what she saw here which I'm

49:58

sure a lot of you guys also saw is

49:59

opportunity she had ambition and

50:02

opportunity and I I think that that's

50:05

what I think a lot of times that's what

50:07

immigrants see when they come here

50:09

because they probably come from places

50:10

where they feel absolutely no

50:12

opportunity so the second they feel like

50:14

there's a little of it if they work

50:15

those 20 hours a week I mean I saw my

50:16

parents grind totally like my work ethic

50:19

just comes from watching them you know

50:20

what I mean just watching them just kill

50:22

it every single day so what I think that

50:25

you guys are speaking to which is really

50:26

important and I think it's important

50:27

that people know your story as well

50:29

because it becomes more accessible when

50:31

they see you guys and they know what you

50:32

came from and they know you're working

50:33

at Burger King and now you guys are

50:35

worth billions of dollars it's very

50:37

important that Americans know that

50:38

that's possible for them maybe not to

50:39

hit a billion but maybe to hit a million

50:41

maybe hit 300,000 maybe to buy a house

50:45

that's $100,000 that they're really

50:47

proud of own it

50:49

outright and the fact that this is

50:51

accessible like what you just said to me

50:54

is just hope and abundance like that's

50:56

the message of what you just said you

50:57

said something that made it seem very

50:59

simple to me we put this money here

51:00

everybody's now invested in the success

51:02

of the American economy and now when we

51:04

see the Stock Market ticker look green

51:07

which is all the average person sees

51:09

green or red we don't really know

51:10

anything but when we see green we get

51:13

excited we

51:14

go and now we goes up and we start

51:17

rooting Jam feels that way too yeah but

51:20

think he's getting excited right now if

51:21

you're saying it he's gonna start crying

51:23

oh wait it's green today it's been red

51:25

for a week but think like CEOs right

51:27

like these people uh have become

51:30

villainized right and it's because we're

51:32

not attached to the success of their

51:34

companies that's right when if you if

51:36

your biggest holding is Tesla please

51:38

believe you're not upset yeah I think

51:41

people think that their success now

51:42

works against your best interests yes

51:45

instead of and the system's rigged and

51:47

the system's rigged and you can't be

51:48

part of it and you're being ground down

51:51

this is a I think really good proposal

51:53

freeberg and and if you look at housing

51:55

that's the other one I I when I if I run

51:57

for president you know what my position

51:58

is going to be Shela what's that I'm

52:00

going to build five cities with 3

52:02

million homes in each and you can only

52:04

buy them if you make under x amount per

52:06

year it's not going to be like the

52:08

projects or like you know subsidized

52:10

housing in New York talking about it's

52:12

not going to be sty town okay it's gonna

52:14

be nice house that's pretty good if you

52:16

can get it yeah St Town's not bad but

52:18

not like projects I'm talking about like

52:20

proper homes like bu we are the most

52:23

Innovative

52:24

country Society ever created created I

52:26

mean since the Greeks they were pretty

52:28

great too but we could build five new

52:29

cities why the can't we build five new

52:31

cities with 3 million homes in it let's

52:32

do some like Manhattan project for

52:34

housing and then healthare how the hell

52:36

do we not have like good healthare for

52:38

everybody in this country the richest

52:39

country in the world greatest economy

52:41

whatever we should be able to solve

52:43

those problems and that's why people

52:44

don't feel like they're part of this is

52:46

because basic housing basic health care

52:49

and your retirement it's not like it's

52:51

rigged against you this sounds crazy but

52:53

for young people I think they would

52:56

forgive healthare if they were invested

52:59

in the market and I think being invested

53:02

in the market is just so daunting but

53:04

the feeling that everybody else is

53:05

getting rich when you're not is the

53:07

reason why I bought crypto not knowing

53:10

anything about it it's a reason why

53:11

everybody else bought it it's this

53:13

feeling that the train is running away

53:15

and you're not going to be part of it so

53:17

how do we get them to feel part of that

53:19

success I think really importantly you

53:21

know today just just to give you guys

53:23

some other statistics 60% of middle

53:26

class households net worth is in their

53:28

home only 10 10% of their net worth is

53:31

in owning the S&P 500 in in index funds

53:34

or whatever in their retirement accounts

53:36

and so by creating this American Dream

53:38

around housing and allowing the federal

53:40

government to provide loans on housing

53:42

we've increased the cost of housing

53:43

we've created a very like destructive

53:45

housing bubble in the sense that it has

53:47

reduced people's exposure to

53:49

participation in productive value

53:51

creation and that's through the

53:52

ownership of businesses instead we've

53:55

stored our net worth in the house and in

53:57

order to keep the economy and the social

54:00

structure stable we've created policies

54:03

that allow the continuation of the

54:05

growth in the value of houses so people

54:07

feel like their net worth is

54:08

incrementing and 100% right and that's

54:10

unfortunately very making new housing

54:14

which makes it worse with the

54:15

restrictions have you guys heard of

54:16

Warren Buffett's most public failure no

54:20

Warren Buffett's most public failure was

54:22

when he was brought on as an adviser to

54:24

Arnold Schwarzenegger when schwarzen was

54:26

running for governor and Buffett kind of

54:30

looked at the laws in California and

54:34

there's a law in California when you own

54:35

a home that when you pass on you can

54:38

pass it off to your kids and you can

54:39

basically keep the cost that you paid in

54:43

terms of setting the real estate taxes

54:45

and it's had an enormously negative

54:47

effect in unlocking turnover of homes

54:51

and that's a large driver of why homes

54:54

are so expensive in California so

54:55

Buffett looked at this

54:57

and there was a lot of fanfare

54:59

Schwarzenegger is like here's my

55:00

economic genius and first thing he said

55:02

was guys I think we should repeal this

55:04

law he was gone two days later wow he's

55:07

not popular and by the way there's a lot

55:08

of other policies like this you know two

55:11

days later he had to resign if you do

55:13

the if you do the true kind of like

55:14

macroanalysis as an investor you should

55:17

probably have about 20% of your net

55:18

worth in the US in real estate not 60%

55:22

and so we need to give people the

55:23

ability and we need to think about all

55:25

the follow on trickle effects of

55:27

creating a set of laws a set of policies

55:30

that basically incentivize almost all of

55:32

your net worth to go into a single asset

55:34

your home and what that then means in

55:36

the fact that we have to keep pumping up

55:37

the value of that home and we have to

55:39

have a system in order for people to

55:40

feel like they're getting ahead keep

55:42

inflating and eventually people can't

55:43

afford homes and that's where we are

55:44

today when did you guys first started

55:46

start your education in in the markets

55:49

like at what age did you feel like you

55:53

sought out I bought my first stock in

55:56

the company I was working for or the

55:59

parent company the company I was working

56:00

for in 1989 when I was 18 years old so

56:03

18 what about you did I bought $300 in

56:05

stock um I signed up for an E Trade

56:08

account in college uh because I saw that

56:11

TV show called bull do you remember that

56:13

TV show was about Investment Banking

56:14

during the.com bubble it was such a no

56:16

one knows that show and I was like man

56:18

Wall Street is so cool I want to learn

56:20

about stocks because I was an

56:21

astrophysics major I didn't like I

56:23

didn't know what I was going to do after

56:24

I was going to go to graduate school or

56:25

whatever

56:26

and then I got caught up in the.com

56:28

bubble and I started reading the Wall

56:29

Street Journal every day I would take it

56:31

down to the freaking Plaza and I would

56:32

read the journal at school during lunch

56:35

and I tried to learn about tech and

56:36

business and markets because i' always

56:37

been a tech guy and I'm like man there's

56:39

all these startups and this is how the

56:40

markets work so I set up an E Trade

56:42

account I put some money in it and I

56:43

started and I bought some stocks and I

56:45

read the investor business business

56:47

daily on what stocks to buy they had a

56:49

rating and I bought those stocks and

56:51

they went up and I'm like man this is

56:53

awesome like I love owning stocks and

56:55

that kind of kicked me off and then got

56:56

an investment banking job after college

56:58

and it totally changed my career

56:59

trajectory I was like I want to go work

57:01

in the tech industry and work in

57:02

business what about you and it shifted

57:03

up for me you buy your first Equity but

57:06

by the way that I sorry let me just say

57:07

one thing what you asked is a really

57:08

important question I just realized this

57:10

Andrew because my um my interest in that

57:13

stock market thing at that time actually

57:15

changed my career trajectory and it

57:17

really reset what I was going to do with

57:18

my life to get involved in business and

57:21

go work in the tech industry as opposed

57:22

to work in science as a researcher and

57:25

that was a really shift for me so it it

57:27

gave me that kind of feeling of like oh

57:29

I got to learn more and then that that

57:30

kind of changed my career sorry go ahead

57:32

Jam I was 14 or 15 years old and there

57:35

was a this is when Rodney King had the

57:39

kicked out of him and almost

57:40

died all these race riots in LA and

57:44

nothing had changed actually in America

57:46

but where I was growing up in Canada the

57:49

provincial government created a program

57:51

that said if you're a minority and

57:52

you're on welfare we'll pay for you to

57:55

get a job

57:56

I I was a minority on welfare so I got a

58:00

job and it was at a startup that was

58:03

just going parabolic and their stock was

58:06

going nuclear and I lived in this shitty

58:09

part of

58:10

town and I would see the controller of

58:13

that company drive past me every day

58:16

while I was waiting for the bus and one

58:18

day he stopped and I went with this guy

58:21

Sam leg he drove me that whole

58:23

summer and he taught me what does the

58:26

company do why is the founder a

58:28

billionaire what the hell does this even

58:30

mean he unpacked it and so I saw

58:33

firsthand what it meant to work not for

58:35

a salary but to get a stake in the thing

58:38

that you're working for I bought a

58:40

couple shares it went up and it was

58:44

great but then I really fell in love

58:46

with this idea that I could understand

58:47

something and own a piece of it and then

58:50

it really accelerated when I graduated

58:52

from college because I was like freeberg

58:54

I was in debt and I was like how the do

58:56

get out of debt and I traded stocks on

58:59

behalf of my boss this guy Mike fer who

59:02

I thank to this day and I made so much

59:05

money right before the do crash he gave

59:08

me the money to pay off my student loans

59:10

wow wow and then ever since then I was

59:13

hooked I was like okay I can learn this

59:15

and I can deal with the vicissitudes of

59:17

this look the markets are brutal there

59:19

are moments where you just wake up and

59:21

it looks like everything's working and

59:22

then there are moments and this is what

59:24

everybody needs to understand though if

59:26

some of these programs work where it

59:29

literally looks like the bottom is

59:30

falling out and I cannot describe to

59:32

people the pressure you will feel on

59:35

behalf of you and your family when it

59:37

looks like you're taking a 30 or 40 or

59:41

50% negative downturn to your net worth

59:44

yeah it inflicts a level of

59:47

psychological damage that I cannot

59:49

describe to you and the the bigger the

59:51

numbers get by the way I told this story

59:54

on Tucker there was a period where I

59:55

would would wake up and I could just

59:56

tweet and the markets would go up they

59:58

were like what's he going to say next

60:00

and then it all stopped and then there

60:02

was a two and a half year period where I

60:04

gave it all back and then some wow

60:07

that's frustrating yeah the mest Touch

60:09

goes away it's beyond frustrating it

60:12

shakes you to your core so if we do

60:14

these programs I think the freedberg

60:15

idea is is just beautiful it's lovely

60:18

what about you sh when did you make but

60:20

I just to finish if we do it we have to

60:23

try to teach people how to deal with the

60:25

draw Downs because that's where if you

60:28

don't teach them how to deal with the

60:30

the volatility of losing money it's

60:32

great when everything's green but those

60:35

red days man how you comport yourself

60:38

how you act how you treat other people

60:40

in the red days are the only days that

60:43

matter yeah it's a Growing Experience

60:45

what about you Shelty when did you buy

60:46

your first Equity I was

60:48

probably

60:50

35

60:52

ohine so my my I mean my parent how old

60:55

are you I'm 41 so I maybe even a little

60:58

bit later now I might have like owned

61:00

stock without even realizing it type of

61:02

thing where like I had like a business

61:03

manager who set up some retirement fund

61:05

or something like that but not me

61:07

actively choosing a stock and buying it

61:09

um my w my wife's father-in-law is a

61:14

very uh successful businessman and uh

61:17

he's he's he's I I don't want to say

61:19

like predicted the markets really well

61:21

but he has he was in Nvidia like super

61:23

early early early early and uh a bunch

61:26

of others and we were like sitting down

61:28

and like aspin somewhere and he like

61:30

said Hey listen what do you mean you

61:31

don't own anything he goes hey can you

61:33

take a you know I don't know if he said

61:35

10 grand or 100 Grand or something like

61:36

that he goes can you just put it in

61:38

these different stocks I go okay sure I

61:39

open up this like E Trade account or

61:41

whatever the it was but an interesting

61:44

thing right there is like you guys were

61:45

so young was 18 22 14 and to me I think

61:50

like the education of this is really

61:52

important like my parents did really

61:54

well but they're financially

61:56

like there was no passing on this like

61:58

knowledge of like investing when what it

62:00

means to invest like they made their

62:02

money by like working every single day

62:04

for it not like you guys don't but like

62:05

they were teaching dance lessons so it's

62:07

like this is how much the dance lesson

62:08

costs and you pay me and maybe I'll have

62:10

40 people in the class okay more people

62:12

are paying and now other teachers can

62:14

also teach but it was intimidating to

62:17

them it was int intimidating to me it

62:19

still is intimidating to me well this is

62:21

the I think the upside of crypto in some

62:23

ways also the upside of prize picks or

62:25

the you know gambling poker it's the

62:27

upside of Robin Hood and and coinbase

62:30

and all these things being available

62:31

this generation generation bet like they

62:33

love to gamble these young kids this is

62:35

my concern they're no but they're

62:36

learning they're learning how to take

62:38

the the downdrafts I Lear I think they

62:41

are learning so maybe like the barrier

62:43

of Entry is less but my concern is that

62:45

they're treating it more like gambling

62:46

than investing and I think that we've

62:49

almost like tricked the American public

62:51

into thinking that investing is gambling

62:54

when the way that you guys are

62:55

describing is it's not it's like

62:57

investing in the S&P and then leaving it

62:59

there and taking those downturns and

63:01

waiting for it to come back up yeah but

63:03

here's the thing you have to learn these

63:04

lessons at the poker table you cannot

63:06

play poker without real money or else

63:08

you're not going to get the burn you're

63:09

not going to stay up at night how do we

63:10

how do we so that's what these kids are

63:12

doing they're how do we educate them

63:13

it's not every kid right it's the

63:15

education comes from doing and if you

63:17

let these kids trade they will figure it

63:19

out over time and then what happens is

63:20

like you they get married they get they

63:23

get a baby they want to get a house and

63:24

then they say you know what I I'm going

63:25

to I'm going to stop buying meme coins

63:27

I'm going to start buying Bitcoin I'm

63:28

going to stop buying Bitcoin I'm going

63:30

to buy Nvidia and things with real R

63:32

they just get addicted to get happen all

63:34

the time exactly I agree with I agree

63:36

with SCH I don't think that I I think

63:38

you're being super reductive like oh

63:39

they'll get on the the all of a sudden

63:42

understand Dave Swenson's Yale endowment

63:44

asset allocation model [ __ ] I've

63:46

seen they won't I have seen thousands

63:49

and thousands and thousands of guys over

63:51

time who deeply steeped in this business

63:55

wash out

63:56

yeah and each to a one the more

64:00

sophisticated they get they all fall to

64:02

the same pressures which is they don't

64:04

know how to simplify and they don't know

64:07

how to be patient these are things that

64:09

every human being needs to learn and I

64:12

don't think time in the market actually

64:14

solves those two traits those are

64:16

psychological traits that you have to go

64:19

and figure out in a different way you

64:20

look inside yourself and you have to

64:22

figure those out okay yeah fair enough

64:25

but but between the choice of hey we're

64:27

going to grow up blue collar we have no

64:29

access to these markets we have no way

64:31

to trade in them we have no way to learn

64:33

and then today I think the system we

64:35

have today is better can people go off

64:38

the you know jump the fence and lose all

64:40

their money of course they can but they

64:42

could go to Vegas and do that prior to

64:43

that they could work with a bookie they

64:45

could do football sheets I I think

64:46

they're learning and when you use some

64:48

of these modern apps and you look at the

64:50

strategies and you see people on Reddit

64:52

working on these stocks and their thesis

64:54

I think it's trending the right there

64:56

can always be more education but this

64:58

is don't bet on the Jets right you said

65:00

it before I americ doesn't even know

65:03

what compound interest is I agree with

65:05

you in fact I'll tell you I'll tell you

65:06

a great story work to do I one of the

65:09

best things that happened when I

65:11

invested in the Golden State Warriors I

65:13

bought 10% of the team in 2011 or

65:16

something I got to meet all of them and

65:18

I got to meet a lot of my heroes and I

65:20

remember one meeting where I sat

65:23

with a go like play let's just put it

65:26

that we'll bleep it out we'll bleep it

65:27

out no I don't want to say his name but

65:30

okay fair

65:32

enough and he asked me the most

65:35

incredible question he's like jat can

65:38

you explain compound interest and Schulz

65:41

I can tell you I still have this

65:44

spreadsheet I just showed him a compound

65:46

interest

65:48

table and he had no idea how 8% versus

65:53

10% is like gargantuan over 50 years

65:56

over 20 years yeah and to your point it

65:59

was Illuminating that you're right

66:02

unless you unless you go and you jump

66:04

into it and you live it and Jason I

66:06

agree with you like there's nothing like

66:08

look Stan dram Miller says the same

66:10

thing invest then investigate like

66:12

there's nothing like putting the risk on

66:13

okay there's nothing like playing a hand

66:15

in poker there's nothing like taking a

66:17

shot at a different strategy in

66:19

blackjack win or lose you get feedback

66:22

but my point is most people don't get

66:24

better and so that's what you have to

66:26

solve is like how can you make it

66:28

interesting fun how can you talk about

66:30

the losses like this is a thing that I

66:31

had immense trouble with I still do

66:33

today I think I've gotten better with it

66:35

is to be able to talk about the losses

66:37

how do you talk about getting whacked

66:38

for $4 billion I can do it now but it's

66:41

brutal yeah it stung for a while for you

66:45

you saw you're a better person since you

66:46

saw me go through it how ashamed was I

66:49

for the two years that I had to unwind

66:51

that how bad it was hard for you yeah

66:53

yeah yeah it was hard I mean you're

66:54

imagine your whole identity is built

66:56

into you know you being successful in

66:59

these markets and you measure it the

67:01

wrong way like you point to the number

67:02

in the bank account not the way your

67:03

wife treats you not the way your kids

67:05

treat you not the way your friends treat

67:07

you and then you're like okay well I'm

67:10

30 40 50 60 70 80% poor so I'm just that

67:13

much less of a human being yeah but

67:16

that's a good reality check to lean into

67:18

family and those things that matter so

67:19

my point is like if you can if we can

67:21

get people more into the market I think

67:23

it's an incredible thing but you have to

67:25

to wrap it in these guard rils that have

67:27

nothing to do with the market they

67:29

everything to do with who you are as a

67:30

person and I think like the first step

67:33

is showing like what is the most

67:36

simplistic version of the benefit of the

67:39

market and I think it's compound

67:40

interest I I really think that that is

67:42

if we start there like remove the stock

67:44

market don't even talk about it just

67:46

like what happens if I left it in a

67:47

savings account that's getting 4% and I

67:49

don't touch it right now you know the

67:51

rule of 72 that was the one that opened

67:53

my brain up so the rule of 72 is

67:55

whatever the percentage you grow uh per

67:58

month divide it into 72 so let's say you

68:01

were growing 7.2% in the market per year

68:04

divide that it takes 10 years to double

68:07

your money so it's a time to double your

68:08

money okay if you were growing 7% a

68:11

month you know on whatever your

68:13

Investments are let's say you got a

68:15

great business that's growing like

68:16

Facebook or something like that that

68:17

means you double the number of users or

68:19

Revenue every 7.2 months once you

68:21

understand that you can do it quickly

68:23

just like in poker you know the number

68:24

of outs each card represents roughly 2%

68:28

chance because there's 50 of them right

68:29

so they each count for about 2% then you

68:32

can start doing this stuff in the back

68:33

of your head I I I had this idea I think

68:35

I talked about it here on the program of

68:36

doing a kids investment club and I

68:37

bought the domain kids investment Club I

68:40

actually need to do this I got to

68:42

prioritize this and find a CEO for it or

68:44

do it as a nonprofit or something just

68:46

kids need to learn this early Robin Hood

68:49

or somebody should make an app where

68:50

they can invest like a shadow but it's

68:52

you know like with their parents maybe

68:54

they can make the trade the par approves

68:56

it something like that there's something

68:58

where we should be learning all this in

68:59

high school this should be like this

69:01

what's more important than this remove

69:03

the fear remove the fear and and the

69:06

reason it's important is what we were

69:07

saying earlier get the American people

69:09

invested in American success and you

69:11

will find so much more patriotism you

69:14

will not find us nitpicking on all these

69:16

little things that a lot of us maybe go

69:18

why is this such a big deal like the

69:21

bathroom like most of us aren't

69:22

unaffected I cannot begin to explain how

69:25

quick will forget about the bathrooms

69:27

when the S&P is up 15% and you're

69:30

looking at your portfolio and you're

69:31

like I you could take a sh wherever you

69:34

want okay absolutely yes I have you got

69:37

something else to focus on absolutely

69:39

look at this hey fredberg here's your

69:41

time machine check it out there's your

69:43

favorite show I don't want to make you

69:44

more emotional but there he is your guy

69:47

Stanley Tucci from bull I think it only

69:49

made I think it only made it one season

69:51

one season but Tucci gang in full effect

69:54

I was such a tech ner growing up but I

69:56

never thought about the business of

69:57

technology and then the startup boom

69:58

happened and you got this bull show on

70:01

TV and I'm like man this is so much more

70:02

exciting than sitting in a freaking lab

70:04

doing mathematical modeling where I was

70:06

like pulling my freaking hair out I'm

70:08

like I want to get after that yeah and

70:10

the rest is history you know have you

70:12

guys watched Stanley Tucci on HBO where

70:14

he tours Italy and he does his little so

70:16

great and on SE seen it and I've seen

70:19

cook on Tik Tok he's like today is it

70:21

rolling it's rolling today I'm going to

70:24

make you FR it's got but I'm doing it in

70:28

the capacho base and we're going to put

70:31

and I'm like I just can this guy do ASMR

70:34

or put me to bed at night the best I I

70:38

got a man crush on Tucci tui's the best

70:40

I mean he's I would like to roll with

70:43

tuchi can you imagine if we went to

70:44

Italy and just had like a just roll with

70:47

Tui through

70:48

Italy I love that guy any dream is

70:51

possible J you could pull it I know

70:53

we're all dreaming here we're all

70:54

dreaming here

70:55

all right we're still dreamers by the

70:57

way really important everyone should

70:59

know that I think like there's no the

71:01

thing that the thing that a lot of

71:02

people assume this is the true about

71:05

humans in general is there's an end to

71:06

the rainbow but there isn't you ride the

71:08

rainbow till you die that's it and

71:11

there's always hope there's always

71:12

dreams there's always more and it

71:14

doesn't stop that's what makes it fun

71:16

are you taking the ketamine in Austin or

71:18

something what happened you just got all

71:19

full I'm a little hung over today I

71:20

started drinking at 10 a.m. yesterday we

71:22

went to um we went to the Mothership

71:24

last night and we well we hung out with

71:27

a couple of your boys I think who you

71:29

hang out with Tony

71:32

Tony ton was very nice and um met Shane

71:35

Gillis was there Shane Shane Gillis was

71:37

there but he was big time he was big

71:39

time there was a mob around and we

71:40

didn't get to meet him the guy Bert who

71:42

take I didn't recogniz yeah he had a

71:45

shirt on so I didn't recognize he was

71:47

course yeah I was like but then I saw

71:49

the body shape and I was like yeah

71:50

that's that's probably probably him when

71:53

did you start in comedy I was uh I think

71:55

it's almost been like 18 years or

71:57

something like that so you started in

71:58

your early 20s in New York going to the

72:00

funny bone or what I have a question

72:02

actually how did you get into it how do

72:04

you keep your like how do you pay for

72:06

your life before you make it how like

72:08

what like is it that you have a normal

72:10

day job I lived I lived with my parents

72:13

for like a very long time like my

72:15

parents lived in the East Village so I

72:16

was walking distance from like multiple

72:18

comedy clubs it was you know incredibly

72:20

uh I mean I worked like with my parents

72:22

for a little bit then I managed

72:24

restaurants and like just managed them

72:26

you manag restaurants in Manhattan yeah

72:27

I did I started in Santa Barbara when I

72:29

was going to college that's where I did

72:31

my first comedy gig and then I manage a

72:33

restaurant out in Brooklyn and um not

72:37

called biscuit barbecue was in Park

72:39

Slope Brooklyn and then um then I

72:42

started to make a little money in

72:43

standup and it was like enough to like

72:45

buy a m Moon's Falafel I like had like a

72:47

five to FF money I had I had A5 to $10 a

72:51

day budget and I like I could eat cereal

72:53

for breakfast and then I just and I

72:55

saved some money cuz I was going to

72:57

school was when I was going to school I

72:59

was working at that restaurant and I

73:00

like saved some money and like I had a

73:01

little pipe dream Ving up a bar with a

73:03

friend of mine in New York and then I

73:05

was like you know what I'm just GNA

73:06

spend this money trying to be a comedian

73:09

and I hope by the time I get rid of the

73:12

money I'm making money a comedy and it

73:14

came down to like $700 in my bank

73:16

account I was like renting out the room

73:17

where I slept in and I would sleep in a

73:19

closet in my apartment and uh it just

73:23

and it worked out it just worked out I

73:25

started making a couple money do a

73:26

couple gigs started touring got on a TV

73:28

show and then it then it kind of worked

73:30

out was there a moment that where

73:33

because when you when you know when the

73:34

cancel culture was alive and well that's

73:36

when I first encountered you it was

73:38

initially on Tik Tok actually sure and

73:41

you were on fire because you were saying

73:42

stuff nobody else was saying and I

73:44

thought how does he even dare to pull

73:46

this [ __ ] off and was was there moment

73:49

that where you broke or you tipped or no

73:51

so I you kind of like it's interesting

73:53

you kind of break and then you go away

73:54

like so I so I broke on like some MTV

73:57

shows and I was you know doing all these

73:58

things on MTV had my own shows and all

74:00

that kind of stuff and then I kind of

74:03

you know the MTV thing kind of dried up

74:04

and then I kind of went away but I was

74:05

luckily doing this podcast with

74:07

Charlamagne and the podcast was very

74:08

popular and that was like providing for

74:10

me and then I was doing some shows on

74:12

the road and you know people would come

74:14

out from the podcast but um and then I

74:17

really couldn't get any traction in

74:18

standup world so when I was doing like

74:20

comedy stuff with MTV it wasn't really

74:23

in the standup world and it's because my

74:24

standup maybe wasn't of the ilk of what

74:27

was like popular at the time and I have

74:30

a lot of empathy by the way for like the

74:31

people who are just working at a network

74:33

they're producing these shows like they

74:35

their kids in private school I want to

74:37

tell a crazy joke about women or gays or

74:40

whatever the it is and they're like I'm

74:42

not trying to get fired and like I'm

74:44

just trying my kids in private school we

74:45

just got them into Dalton I don't want

74:47

to rock the boat like you know reason

74:50

you understand like I don't think that

74:51

they're self-preservation exct but I

74:54

didn't want to changed my comedy so I

74:56

was like okay where can I put it out and

75:00

luckily we were putting the podcast out

75:01

on YouTube it was successful and I just

75:03

started putting things out on YouTube

75:05

and I started doing these shows and

75:07

these shows started selling out it was

75:08

like really weird like the first thing I

75:11

put out I sold out the next weekend and

75:12

I was never gu sold out how many seats

75:14

where these are like 300 seat clubs and

75:16

you do maybe four or five shows a

75:17

weekend and you get 50 bucks a seat 20

75:20

bucks a seat no not even you get a flat

75:22

rate you get two grand to do the weekend

75:23

or something like that and a lot of

75:25

these times the comedy clubs would just

75:27

like call people and say hey do you want

75:28

to see this guy and give away the

75:29

tickets for free it was really the old

75:31

model was basically it's like a bar so

75:33

you just get the people in and they sell

75:34

the drinks so the weekend would sell out

75:37

then another one would sell out and I

75:38

was like holy maybe maybe there's

75:39

something there's a conversion rate that

75:41

I didn't see and I kept putting stuff

75:43

out on YouTube I would do a new clip

75:45

every week for a year on YouTube then I

75:47

put these a special on YouTube instead

75:50

and then I learned very quickly that

75:51

there was this huge like white space in

75:53

the market like the comedy on TV was

75:55

corny and people didn't really like it

75:57

and nobody was putting out like the

75:59

quote unquote like real comedy there's

76:01

different versions of Comedy but I'm

76:03

being very

76:04

simplistic and the more edgy stuff I put

76:06

on YouTube and it just exploded and um

76:10

yeah my career kind of really took off

76:11

from there and then covid came around

76:13

and there was a I was able to be a

76:16

little bit more honest because I wasn't

76:19

tied to a network and worried about

76:22

maybe losing my job at the network yeah

76:25

and then it just I think in America we

76:27

reward bravery yeah you just signed a

76:29

Netflix deal right I mean you did this

76:31

the show yeah we're actually doing the

76:34

show in Austin tonight where we're going

76:35

to talk with some folks about this

76:37

General concept where you start out as

76:38

kind of an independent yeah say whatever

76:40

you want you're totally free it's your

76:42

own platform it's your own voice yeah

76:44

and then you go sign a deal with another

76:46

platform like are you now you know did

76:48

you find it hard to trade the money for

76:51

whatever might come along with that

76:52

there's restrictions there's you there's

76:54

two way two ways to look at it right

76:55

it's like there's one like I think that

76:59

I don't want to give myself too much

77:00

credit here there but like I think that

77:02

what we've did is created another

77:03

Marketplace for comedy that the

77:05

streaming networks had to now compete

77:07

with yeah so they were losing Comics to

77:10

YouTube because it was more advantageous

77:12

to put your comedy up on YouTube and

77:14

build a following and then go sell

77:16

tickets on the road whereas before the

77:17

only way you could like really make a

77:19

big chunk of money on your comes if you

77:20

got one of these fancy specials now

77:22

people are like I don't even want to do

77:24

the special because if I put on YouTube

77:25

I can tour for years and really build a

77:27

fan base so to have this autonomy the

77:30

Netflix thing is interesting because

77:31

like Netflix is the second biggest I

77:33

guess uh streaming service on the planet

77:36

it's like YouTube than Netflix so if I

77:38

already have this huge imprint on

77:39

YouTube it would only be smart for me to

77:43

now tap into the second biggest and see

77:44

if there's some people there that aren't

77:45

consuming my content on YouTube so back

77:47

to the so then back to the the guy who's

77:49

got the the kid at Dalton now when you

77:52

go and negotiate a deal with Netflix are

77:54

they basically silent or do they not a

77:57

single note yeah so you do whatever you

77:59

want and it is what it is let it rip now

78:01

my last special was supposed to be with

78:03

Amazon so it was with Amazon and they

78:05

had some notes and I bought it back from

78:07

them and I put it out myself wow really

78:09

wow yeah and I sold it I sold it myself

78:11

and it actually one of the coolest

78:12

things ever because I think I'm may be

78:14

one of the only Comics that actually

78:16

knows what they're worth yeah you don't

78:19

really know what you're well walk us

78:21

through that so you do it and what do

78:22

the notes say that like

78:25

yeah it was two jokes and like I get it

78:26

they make money selling toilet paper

78:28

like why are they gonna have this huge

78:30

you know uh you made fun of the toilet

78:33

paper industry I got

78:35

it toilet paper Big T very powerful

78:38

Lobby you know what's funny is like

78:39

culture has changed and I feel like a

78:41

lot of times the streamers are like down

78:43

river from culture so like I bet now I

78:45

would be able to put it out on Amazon

78:46

and be totally fine but at that time it

78:48

was maybe very edgy and a volatile time

78:50

culturally so I was able to put it out

78:53

and you know I but you had the choice

78:55

right you could have taken the jokes out

78:57

and kept it but then instead you took

78:59

the harder path which is I'm just going

79:00

to buy it back yeah and I take the risk

79:02

and I'll figure it out later yeah I I've

79:05

I'm not risk averse at all I actually

79:07

enjoy risk it kind of excites me but um

79:10

what excites me more is like putting out

79:11

the piece exactly how I wanted to put it

79:13

out and I can't like scream about

79:15

censorship and comedians should do the

79:17

jokes we want to do and then the second

79:18

somebody gives me a big check I go whoa

79:20

we don't have to do the like I have to

79:22

be at least consistent on that and um

79:26

culture continued to change and you got

79:28

to give Netflix credit too like they

79:29

took a lot of they took a lot of hits

79:31

for putting out comedy that some people

79:33

thought was maybe a little bit too

79:34

offensive the Chappelle stuff Chelle

79:36

stuff really that put him in the

79:38

crosshairs exact they stood strong right

79:41

absolutely they stood strong and like

79:42

seeing that gave me a lot of confidence

79:44

I was like okay like and they literally

79:47

we just made the whole thing and they

79:48

just gave us money so like they were not

79:51

involved at all in like the creation so

79:54

to say

79:55

they they're involved in giving us money

79:56

for it and then they're involved in the

79:58

marketing obviously and their algorithm

80:01

and getting it that's all Sandos he's he

80:03

believes in comedy yeah but he's like a

80:05

huge comedy fan from back in the day I

80:07

think people don't realize that about

80:08

him like you need somebody who actually

80:10

loves the art and is not just looking at

80:12

it as a thing that they can monetize

80:14

like there's a the term this guy used

80:16

that you have to find somebody

80:17

spiritually aligned with you and that's

80:19

not mumbo jumbo it like they truly

80:22

understand the intention of Comedy so

80:24

things aren't hurtful or painful to them

80:26

because they understand what you intend

80:27

to do so and then I got interesting too

80:30

they they tried to cancel you what what

80:32

was the joke who the the mobs because

80:35

they went after Tony Hinchcliffe twice

80:37

oh yeah and each time he went 10x they

80:39

came after chamath on this program that

80:41

was the first level up we got three

80:43

times the audience after they tried to

80:44

cancel chimal yeah the White House

80:46

released the statement it doesn't it

80:48

doesn't it doesn't really work when you

80:49

have like core fans that believe in you

80:51

and I feel like you guys have probably

80:53

built that you know the relationship

80:54

you've built with your fans there's

80:55

probably people very grateful of the

80:58

information that you give them and uh so

81:00

when they try to paint you in a certain

81:02

light you actually have like a hundred

81:04

hours of time with those people that

81:07

they know you to be more than that one

81:08

statement that you've said so now

81:10

they're not as concerned about that

81:12

thing you said that maybe is taken out

81:13

of context or people have been offended

81:15

by I think like the biggest thing that

81:17

people miss about comedians is like

81:19

you're allowed to be offended by the

81:21

joke that I say like you're allowed to

81:23

react however the [ __ ] want to react

81:25

about it you had your life you went

81:26

through some crazy [ __ ] maybe you're

81:29

maybe you were bullied as [ __ ] as a kid

81:30

and like you don't want other people to

81:32

potentially have those feelings so you

81:33

see a joke that could elicit that and

81:35

you're like I want to protect that from

81:36

that protect them from that that's kind

81:38

of noble I'm like I'm cool with that if

81:41

you yourself tell me you don't like me

81:43

teasing you I'm not going to tease you

81:44

personally ever again I want you to feel

81:46

good but it doesn't mean that I won't

81:48

continue to make those jokes somewhere

81:49

else and I think my shows like I got the

81:52

most diverse audience in comedy history

81:54

yeah so it's like you come out to one of

81:56

my shows you can't tell me that people

81:59

don't like these jokes and I tried very

82:02

hard to like like if I'm curious about

82:04

your culture you'll know it through the

82:06

jokes it's not some little [ __ ] like

82:08

I'll try to dive deep and even surprise

82:10

you about something that I might know

82:12

and I think in that way people start to

82:14

feel seen and they don't feel bullied

82:16

they actually feel like represented and

82:18

they're like excited about it look you

82:20

you said something at the beginning

82:22

which I thought was really interesting

82:23

which is you're like a you have to Great

82:25

comedians are great observers of culture

82:28

so can you can you just tell us like

82:29

just observe the cultural moment what we

82:31

talked a lot about it but I just want

82:33

you to be maybe like put a point on it

82:35

where are we where's America what the

82:37

hell is going on like What's happen

82:38

what's happening however you feel that

82:40

question like what the hell is going on

82:43

um all-time low confidence in uh

82:48

institutions low confidence in

82:52

information there's an obs with

82:54

conspiracy because there's I mean that's

82:57

twofold one like it's the easiest way

82:59

for dumb people to feel smart like when

83:00

you know something no one else knows and

83:02

you get to share with people like

83:03

there's that like dopamine hit where

83:04

like I bet you didn't know this happened

83:06

you know yeah um but those thrive in

83:08

times where there's not real

83:10

transparency so I think everybody's

83:13

looking for answers and nothing is

83:15

exactly how it seems and the only way to

83:17

reins still that confidence is I think

83:18

like brutal transparency like you got to

83:21

just be like really honest with the

83:23

people this is what it is and we're

83:24

Americans we're proud people you know so

83:26

we can get through whatever you say but

83:29

you got to tell it to us as it is and I

83:31

think we're just assessing relationships

83:33

right now and I think like when the

83:35

economy is rough like you're seeing all

83:37

the Jewish stuff right now right like

83:39

obviously with the conf crazy well this

83:41

is the thing you got to understand like

83:43

most people have never met a Jewish

83:44

person like most Americans have no clue

83:47

what a Jewish person is outside of Kiran

83:48

enthusiasm or Seinfeld they don't know

83:50

what it is they think Jews are Upper

83:53

East Side New Yorkers like yeah the like

83:56

Seinfeld or they think it's like hedum

83:59

like it's just like one or the other

84:00

exactly they don't even know what like a

84:01

spartic Jew they don't know what an

84:03

African Jew is or a Moroccan Jew they

84:04

have no clue what that is and they

84:07

shouldn't they're like how many Jews are

84:09

there they're like more people from La

84:11

than there are Jews right like it's like

84:12

a very small population so I think

84:15

there's like a little bit of a

84:16

disconnect and you know when you don't

84:20

know a people and I think this is

84:22

probably true I could be off but I think

84:24

like an ambient feeling towards Jews

84:27

from people who don't know Jews it's an

84:29

ambient light and the stereotypes are

84:33

probably not like the best they're not

84:35

exactly negative as long as the economy

84:37

is good right they're like oh they

84:40

they're successful they kind of stick

84:42

together they they own businesses they

84:44

whatever and as long as the econom is

84:45

good everybody's cool and then eggs get

84:48

expensive and you're Buy on your rent

84:50

and you don't feel hope and you don't

84:51

and then you start going why do they got

84:53

all that what the what are they about

84:56

why are they why are they separatists

84:58

you know like I'm here prizz and I'm

85:00

trying to get everybody to go to heaven

85:02

and they just got their own thing what

85:04

and it's very easy for them to become

85:06

this like other group and then you

85:08

extrapolate that with what's happening

85:09

like Palestine and and Israel and you

85:13

get people to start like assessing like

85:15

the relationship between America and

85:17

another country like you saw America

85:19

become very uninterested in Ukraine

85:23

quickly like we we we the second the

85:26

economy goes down we start going well

85:28

what do they do for us what why are we

85:30

giving them like and they're starting to

85:33

ask similar questions about Israel and

85:37

there's a lot of anti-semites that are

85:38

jumping on on it and they're muddying

85:39

the whole thing they're going ah this is

85:41

what did they control the government

85:42

they do this all the every conspiracy is

85:46

time by the way you're you're speaking a

85:48

profound secret that many

85:52

administrations in government have known

85:54

for long time and I think this is where

85:55

some of the mistrust comes from I talked

85:58

about this like maybe it was like a

85:59

couple months ago but the most

86:01

incredible stock market was actually

86:03

under Biden the most amount of money

86:05

printed was under Biden the most

86:08

cumulative total budget deficits was

86:10

under Biden the most amount of

86:12

short-term refinancing of debt was under

86:15

Biden and part of what you can explain

86:17

is that if you keep the signals that

86:20

everything is healthy or up you're

86:23

allowed to prop all of these other

86:25

things that would get very quickly

86:29

recapitulated and when you take the gas

86:31

out of the market and you take the gas

86:32

out of all these other markets and all

86:34

of a sudden the price of energy is up

86:36

and the price of this is up and the

86:37

price of that is up then you start to

86:38

question hold on a second why are all of

86:40

these things as important you know the

86:43

above the line below the line

86:44

conversation that we have tried to have

86:46

several times on this pot Jason yeah and

86:48

you have to like meet people you have to

86:51

meet people where they feel in order to

86:53

communicate with them right right like

86:54

they could like when people right now

86:56

are like assessing like America's

86:57

relationship with Israel like it's it's

87:00

and and they you hear these like sound

87:01

bites like that's our closest Ally and

87:03

then they go what does that mean it's

87:04

like well let's explain to them what

87:06

that means like let's explain the

87:07

importance of that relationship and how

87:08

it's beneficial to Americans because if

87:10

you don't explain it and you just go oh

87:13

just be quiet whatever then they start

87:15

to look at these lunatics on Twitter and

87:17

start to go wait a minut is that is that

87:19

true yeah and then they're down the

87:21

conspiracy Hall like you have to explain

87:24

like I don't know what the mineral deal

87:26

was about but I know for with with

87:28

Ukraine but I know for a second there

87:30

are some Americans who go oh we're going

87:31

to get some minerals out of that all

87:32

right minerals sound good like they're

87:34

gonna pay us back it's that it's that

87:36

simplistic right so it's like I think I

87:38

think that kind of communication is

87:40

important and it will actually help

87:43

understand these relationships which I

87:45

imagine are very important I'm not privy

87:48

to all the geopolitical decisions that

87:49

are going on there who knows

87:51

intelligence from Israel could have

87:52

thwarted 20 more 911s yeah maybe you

87:54

can't say that because you expose the

87:56

intelligence operatives you have in the

87:58

field but it it would I think be helpful

88:00

to understand the value of that for the

88:03

everyday American so that when you see

88:05

something crazy on Twitter you can go

88:07

okay you're just a anti-semite and

88:09

you're looking for a justification for

88:10

your hate I mean this is your point

88:12

about Trump sometimes he has these take

88:15

we'll see you later bro take care David

88:17

this is like I think the point there's

88:19

going to be conspiracy theory about that

88:20

right now I just want to let you know

88:22

talked about Israel and he's like the

88:24

one Jewish guy left way to go way to go

88:26

Shela this is how it starts David David

88:30

this is how it starts you drove thanks a

88:32

lot you drove them out right chy when

88:34

you said um you know Trump's a masterful

88:36

kind of Communicator here Biden gave all

88:39

these weapons to to Ukraine under the

88:42

aices of what's called a lone lease they

88:45

have to pay them back but Biden never

88:47

communicated that well tell us and then

88:49

Trump comes out he's like you know what

88:51

we gave them 180 million 180 billion

88:54

they're going to give us 500 billion

88:55

back we're making a 40 he he basically

88:57

described a 42% compounded return sounds

89:00

good to me yeah better than anything

89:02

that's ever happened I mean he he's out

89:05

there in terms of his ability to

89:06

communicate at chath as we wrap here any

89:08

final thoughts what do you think about

89:11

Trump and what he's how he's doing and

89:14

what he's doing so far and what do you

89:15

think about Elon and Doge oh here we go

89:19

okay so uh Trump and what he's doing how

89:22

he's doing so far like I I I don't know

89:24

like in other words like I don't I don't

89:26

know if I can like assess it right away

89:28

maybe I'm giving him a little bit longer

89:31

uh like landing strip or whatever than

89:33

other people because I have a little bit

89:34

more hope or optimism I get if you don't

89:36

like the guy you're going see how

89:37

horrible this is immediately but I'm

89:39

going to give him a little bit more

89:40

leeway to see if it doesn't work out and

89:43

it's really horrible I'll be the first

89:44

person to call it out like I I've he's

89:47

in power we should definitely check the

89:48

people in power but I'm hoping that

89:51

these actions in the short term are

89:53

beneficial in the long term is everyone

89:55

going to work out no um do is like I'm

89:59

so depressed about not depressed stupid

90:01

but like I'm bummed about because I

90:02

don't think there's any American that is

90:04

pro waste inefficiency and bloat this

90:08

should be a bipartisan issue like all

90:11

Americans should be coming together

90:12

going oh my God the DMV is gonna get

90:14

better this sounds awesome and I think

90:19

you know I have a lot of respect for

90:20

Elon but I think sometimes on Twitter

90:22

he's like twisting knife a little bit

90:25

and it's like you don't need to twist

90:27

the knife like we all want this this is

90:29

something we can come together with as a

90:32

country in support this sounds great

90:36

don't twist it just kind of let it be

90:38

show your wins when you do something

90:41

wrong we can acknowledge the things that

90:43

we did are wrong and we'll respect that

90:44

it bums me that this has become so

90:46

partisan and I do understand there are a

90:48

lot of people on the left that are

90:49

making this partisan as well they're

90:52

weaponizing there was there was crazy

90:54

clip between Rogan and Elon where Rogan

90:57

was like how does all this go down

90:59

actually and he's like well I can't

91:00

really speak about the corruption

91:02

because I'm afraid it would get me

91:03

assassinated he's like actually if I

91:04

tell you what I know it was the weirdest

91:07

like two-minute clip and then they just

91:10

kind of left it and moved on and my

91:11

brain was like what are they talking

91:13

about what what must be going on there I

91:16

mean there's a lot of money going out

91:17

the door yeah but who's killing Eli like

91:20

if we are going to have World War III

91:21

don't you want the guy that has the

91:23

Rockets to go to Mars on your side yeah

91:26

yeah you kind of want the Super Genius

91:28

on your side for sure another thing

91:29

that's like really interesting to me is

91:31

like people keep going people keep doing

91:33

these things like what is elon's play

91:36

like what is he doing here like is he

91:37

actually G to take over and it's like

91:39

Elon has been dealing with like local

91:41

government for so long trying to push

91:43

through like he is not an American

91:46

citizen he cannot be president he is at

91:48

the highest position he will ever be in

91:50

his lifetime in America you can't get

91:52

higher than being the right-hand of the

91:54

president since you're not from America

91:56

you can be president so I think he's

91:58

going to behave really well because now

92:01

he's in the most powerful position he

92:03

will ever be in if you want to talk

92:05

about like power plays you gotta watch

92:08

out for JD that guy's a that guy's High

92:11

emotional intelligence like that that's

92:14

somebody that I would be keeping my eyes

92:16

on if I'm Trump but Elon he's GNA be a

92:19

good he's gonna be your best friend

92:21

because it's only downhill if he pisses

92:23

Trump off

92:25

interesting interesting little

92:26

Manchurian Candidate for JD I no no no

92:29

I'm not saying that he's gonna do

92:30

anything bad but he is like right don't

92:33

TR don't treat him light like we got

92:35

this don't sleep on JD New Yorkers we do

92:37

this all the time we hear someone with

92:38

like a Southern accent we think they're

92:39

a goofball and it's like right that guy

92:41

went from like a broken home to Yale

92:44

Appalachia to Yale and then the VP and

92:46

he's 40 he's your age he's like 40 he

92:49

called Trump Hitler or something and he

92:51

ended up as his he said I'm a never

92:52

Trump guy he he's so to say that he's

92:55

not emotionally intelligent does to say

92:58

he doesn't know how to manage up or

92:59

whatever that term is he's sappy I hey

93:02

keep an eye on him keep an eye on him

93:04

for sure all right listen Andrew Schultz

93:06

is playing at the Funny Bone on April

93:08

16th and 17th he'll be that Chuckles on

93:11

the 20th drink minimum two drink minimum

93:14

uh by the V you know where to find them

93:17

incredible

93:18

incredible Netflix special who do you

93:20

think who do you B last question who do

93:22

you think is the funniest if you had to

93:24

take a wild stab at who the funniest

93:26

person no me me Jason or free oh oh of

93:30

us between the three of you um okay so

93:34

you can say me Jason so Jason is the

93:36

most like naturally inclined to be funny

93:39

he's probably just the most funny being

93:40

around uh choth will probably get the

93:43

biggest laughs when he says something

93:44

funny because he's like he's not asking

93:47

for much like he'll just say something

93:49

that's like a dart and it will kind of

93:51

like hit you and you'll be like oh and

93:53

then I think David will like structure

93:56

something really funny and you'll be

93:57

like oh that was a clever I see how you

94:00

did that right there I um I was actually

94:02

when I was an astrophysicist shelsea I

94:04

am funny myself I did Summer Stock that

94:08

would be my take like I think if we're

94:09

off the Pod I think chamat says some

94:10

like wild sh that everybody goes what

94:13

the I think you say that the most that's

94:15

what I would say there you go all right

94:17

Andy Schultz picks me they have it Mom I

94:20

would like to clip that and uh yeah all

94:23

right continued success come back

94:25

anytime I like the way Schultz

94:26

pronounces but I may go to chamath I

94:28

like that Cham ch ch yeah chamath is too

94:30

it's too used actually we should go to a

94:32

different pronunciation I love chamoth

94:34

chth is just so it's tough with the it's

94:37

tough with the I know you forong but

94:39

it's tough with the names from over

94:40

there like my podcast co-host Akash

94:42

right Akash everybody calls him Akash

94:45

now I his name is spelled with two A's

94:47

A's a after so it's like a you if it's

94:51

got two A's next to each other after you

94:54

go there but it's

94:56

aash it is tricky but he said like his

94:59

parents specifically picked a name he

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thought that Americans would be able to

95:03

pronounce they calculated that and like

95:06

they wereing him I think that's like a I

95:08

think that's a really beautiful thing

95:09

for a kid like you you go you know like

95:12

how much could called they could have

95:13

named him John Steve if they wanted it

95:16

pron had to keep it real though they

95:17

still had keep it real they would keep

95:19

eight when I could when I could read and

95:21

write English well eight okay cuz it was

95:23

my second language and when I saw my

95:25

name written out I was like what the fu

95:27

did they do to me here what is this my

95:30

middle name m name is like 15 other

95:33

letters name a name that has math in it

95:37

like they knew what they wanted you know

95:39

yes they were like if you can if you can

95:41

pronounce this you can solve the Pagan

95:44

theor true this is this is harder than

95:46

thean be an engineer oh I'm so proud of

95:51

him he's going to figure it out get us

95:53

two month he's going to get us ask a

95:56

question Andrew is it racist if I do an

95:58

Indian impersonation because I know I

95:59

can do Italian and Irish but can I do no

96:02

it's funny bro I don't think so but I

96:04

think it's like is it the intent I'm

96:05

just I don't even think it's the intent

96:07

I think if you like if you say certain

96:09

things like if you say

96:12

B right like if if you say that like

96:16

that's like my love like you know if you

96:18

say little things that are more than

96:20

just the sound but if you tap into the C

96:23

like to let them know hey I didn't learn

96:25

this from The Simpsons like I learned it

96:27

from my buddy's family then I think

96:30

you'll see people who are like Indian

96:32

Sri Lanka they'll be like oh he oh he

96:34

got he's got friends he got he knows he

96:36

knows I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead

96:39

and until I make my move to commedian

96:41

I'm not gonna do it I'm gonna save it to

96:42

when I get my uh Tony uh kill Tony set

96:46

yeah what's your what's your Korean act

96:47

can you do that like can we go through I

96:50

can go Korean cuz my wife's Korean and

96:53

her dad

96:54

I'll tell you my I can cuz my dad my my

96:58

father-in-law I I went to China he's an

97:00

industrialist he's there and I said Hey

97:02

listen I'd like to marry your daughter

97:04

and he said okay

97:06

two two conditions and I said okay and

97:10

he said do it fast and he poked me

97:13

Andrew so hard like a reinforced poke

97:16

with his finger yeah yeah yeah on my

97:18

shoulder got a bruise I'm like oh yeah

97:20

and then he goes and I said what's the

97:22

second thing he says no funds he says it

97:24

just like that and I was like okay

97:27

okay I don't marry a daughter no

97:30

refunds do it fast and I literally had

97:33

to marry her within a year because he

97:34

knew he was like listen I got he had

97:36

four daughters and he's like I got to

97:38

move inventory I love it and I was the

97:40

first I married the oldest daughter n

97:42

none of the other daughters could get

97:43

married until I married my wife which

97:45

was the greatest thing I ever did three

97:47

beautiful kids you know how it is and uh

97:49

listen good luck you going to have a

97:50

second and third Shel I know you got

97:51

some I hope so man God three is the

97:53

right number if you want to go if you

97:55

want to do a half Elon you can go with

97:57

chamat plan he's on six or seven I'm on

98:00

five bro I'm on five five well I mean

98:02

anything's possible and then free BG's

98:04

on four I'm on three I think three is

98:05

the right number I'm going to catch up

98:07

boys I'm going to catch up all right

98:08

listen continue success thanks for doing

98:10

thank you so much for guys

98:12

Che let your winners

98:15

ride Rainman

98:19

David and instead we open source it to

98:22

the fans and they just gone crazy with

98:24

it love you queen of

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K besties

98:35

are that's my dog taking your

98:40

driveways oh man myit will meet me we

98:44

should all just get a room and just have

98:45

one big huge orgy cuz they're allus it's

98:48

like this like sexual tension that they

98:49

just need to release

98:51

somehow what

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be we need to get mer

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our I'm goinging all in

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