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Paperclip Sucks, Actually

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You know, I hate to be that guy, but

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Paperclip and other agent frameworks

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where you're controlling an autonomous

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swarm of 500 CMOs just don't do

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anything. It sounds really futuristic

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and it sounds incredible, but at the end

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of the day it's set up a porn. Have you

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seen these threads on X and and LinkedIn

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and now YouTube videos where people are

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like, "I just set up my Paperclip Hermes

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agent maximizer to run my Telegram

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topics on Vercel." It's like, first of

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all, what the heck are any of these

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platforms? And second of all, what have

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you actually shipped this week? What

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have you actually built? How much money

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have you made in the last 30 days by

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jerking yourself off with a with an open

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claw? That's a good one. The point that

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I'm trying to make is it's basically

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like organizing markdown files in a

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folder and YouTubers like myself, people

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on X and LinkedIn and stuff like that,

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are all incentivized to make every one

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of these new agent frameworks and

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developments much bigger than they

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actually are. I've tried removing names

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and stuff cuz obviously I don't want to

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put anybody on the spot, but check out

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this fellow. This is the peak

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19-year-old experience, he says. You

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know, it's 2:10 a.m. I got three clawed

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code terminals on the MacBook, setting

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up Hermes and Paperclip on the monitor

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and whisper flowing Hermes inside of my

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Telegram topics. What more could you ask

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for? This reads like freaking ancient

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Egyptian hieroglyphs to anybody that's

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actually making money. What more could I

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ask for? How about some MRR, little bro?

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Like, come on. What are you doing here

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that's actually economically valuable?

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Or maybe uh this one here. You know, I

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really didn't want to manage the AI

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team, so XYZ name redacted found a

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solution. Paperclip, the open source

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project, which she showed me. Paperclip

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leads her agents using its project

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management setup. Humans on her team use

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it to assign tasks to agents. Agents

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delegate tasks to humans or other

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agents. Paperclip turns your goals into

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agent tasks. It turns an SEO audit into

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agent tasks. And finally, it organizes

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open claw agents or even creates its own

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agents. Can I just get to the real meat

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and potatoes of whatever this person's

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business is? What are you actually

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doing? What is actually like external

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facing deliverable here that adds value?

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The only thing here out of these six

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tasks that is not completely

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masturbatory, even though it is still

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quite masturbatory, is it turns an SEO

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audit doc, for example, into agent

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tasks. Like this is just doing project

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management for agents. This is just

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doing project management for agents.

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This is just doing project management

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for agents. This is just doing project

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management for agents. This is just

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organizing some BS tool to do more

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project management for some other BS

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tools. Like the only thing a client or a

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customer would ever actually see is some

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sort of SEO audit doc here, and it's not

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even doing that. It's just turning that

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into a bunch of tasks for agents. I

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don't think people realize, but like

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clients and customers and and people

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that are on the other receiving end of a

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business, they don't care how you do

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stuff. They only care that the stuff

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gets done. Likewise, when I see people

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make a mountain out of a molehill like

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this, it's like what are you actually

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getting done? And then they're like,

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"Well, I actually orchestrated a team of

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whatever the hell."

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Uh I'm like, "Okay, great. So, um why

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didn't you just do that yourself? It

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probably would have taken a hundred

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times less actual man-hours than you

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trying to build this incredible wrapper

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around like an SEO audit doc." And by

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the way, what the hell are you doing

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with an SEO audit doc anyway, man?

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That's 2026.

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Okay, check this one out. Zero human

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company install using paper clip and

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Claude. You know, this looks really

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cool, like, you know, went relatively

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viral on X and whatnot. You have like a

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little terminal with I think Ghost TTY

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on the left-hand side, then you have

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like the actual paper clip dashboard.

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And I mean, like, I was like, "Wow, this

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is so cool. What are they actually

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doing?" Have you Can you read this?

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Hopefully you can. It says "Community

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lead agent is defining the community

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content and launch strategy."

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You know, this one's researching and

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evaluating community platforms. This one

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here is improving the admin dashboard

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UX. And this one here is hardening the

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assessment pipeline reliability. Like

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three out of the four of these are just

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[ __ ] You're just shipping and

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building stuff that like helps you ship

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and build stuff. You're not actually

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shipping and building anything. For

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instance, research and evaluate

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community platforms. I mean, like,

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that's just a Google search, man.

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Shouldn't you, as somebody that's about

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to like start a whole business or

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community on this thing, build with AI,

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return my time, whatever the heck,

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shouldn't you just make that decision on

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your end? Improving the admin dashboard

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UX. Oh, I'm sorry, is paperclip not good

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enough for you? So, you're going to make

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your paperclip dashboard better so that

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you can make your paperclip dashboard

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better? How about hardening your

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assessment pipeline reliability?

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Guarantee you, this is some assessment

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that, you know, other agents are going

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to use to assess the quality of the

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deliverables or something. Like, one out

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of the four things here are actually

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probably moving a needle in some way.

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And it's something that realistically,

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like, this fellow should not actually be

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having a agent do. He'd just like sit

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down and think about it for 5 minutes,

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he'd do way more.

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Okay, I got like another standout one

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here. Day two out of 30, trying to make

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viral videos on TikTok with paperclip.

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Paperclip started and it's already

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conducted research with Verlo to

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identify trends in the fitness industry.

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Then it researches some websites on

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Reddit and Hacker News. The main

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bottleneck, though, is Agent Dash Media.

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I'm not sure if it can create good

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enough videos yet. Sometimes the simple

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videos work better than complicated

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ones. Then, everything is scheduled and

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posted Sometimes I'll add the the Larry

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skill. Let me know if there's any other

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service that I need to connect to

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paperclip cuz that's obviously your

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bottleneck, bro.

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It's like, what is this thing doing?

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It's just doing research with Verlo,

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Reddit, Hacker News, and scheduling and

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posted?

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The only thing that matters when you

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make videos is are your videos good? Why

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are you like spending 99% of your time

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around stuff that is not about the main

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thing? Just like, make the main thing

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the main thing. Just figure out if you

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can make good quality videos first. Let

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me tell you, I could have a quadrillion

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AI agents churning in the background,

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but I wouldn't be able to create the

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sorts of videos that I create today

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because at the end of the day, like, I

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am the bottleneck and just like this

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fellow is the bottleneck. He's currently

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not really realizing that, so instead

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he's trying to do everything possible

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not to do the work that actually needs

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doing. You know what all this reminds me

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of? This just generational meme where

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you have a simpleton on the left-hand

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side and what tool does he use to get

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his stuff done? Apple Notes. You have

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this sort of like median average fellow

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over here and what tool does does he

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think he needs? He thinks he needs

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Readwise and Anki and Quizlet and Adobe

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Acrobat and Notion and a bajillion other

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tools. But then what does like really

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brilliant like person that actually

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moves the needle need? Just, you know,

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Apple Notes.

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The point that I'm trying to make is

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it's never the tool. It's just how you

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use the tool. And so, in the case of

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Paperclip, which is just so

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fundamentally misaligned in terms of AI

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and capability and then like what human

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beings can do that it's not even really

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worth talking about, although I will

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talk about it in a second.

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The only thing that you actually need in

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order to get something done is is really

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just the space between your two ears.

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And this is a somebody This is from

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somebody that like I I I work with AI on

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a daily basis. I sell AI on a daily

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basis. I I I make money teaching people

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AI. It is not in my best interest to

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talk about models and frameworks like

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this. But the reality is you do not need

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models and frameworks in order to do

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things.

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You just need like a healthy dose of

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gumption and high agency to go and

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actually do the thing yourself, not

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delegate it off to a quadrillion agents.

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The last point I'll make on this is I

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don't know if anybody remembers this

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hilarious exchange between Parag

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Agrawal. He was I think the former CEO

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of Twitter or something like that. And

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then Elon Musk right before he purchased

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it. Parag clearly is you know, rage mode

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over here. He sends like a 10-line

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message and you know, if you go back

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further, there's a lot of these sorts of

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exchanges between the two. And Elon just

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cuts straight to the meat and potatoes

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of it, which is just what did you get

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done this week? So, anytime I have

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anybody be like, "Nick, why aren't you

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using Paperclip or Opus Maximizer? Why

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aren't you using Ventro to manage your

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Telegram topics?" It's like, "What did

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you actually get done this week? How

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much money have you actually made?" If

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you look around at the people that are

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actually out there building the largest

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amounts

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people that are actually like moving the

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needle in whatever substantial way,

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shape, or form. Of course, they use

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these tools, but the tools aren't the

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main thing. They're tools, right?

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You use the tool. You don't let the tool

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use you. And unfortunately, I think some

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of our tools, like social media for

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instance, are now at the point where

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they're very clearly

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using and abusing probably some of the

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less capable among us for nothing more

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than just like internet hype points and

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clicks. There's so many problems with

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stuff like this is It's even funny. I

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mean, why would you organize an AI

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company the same way that you would

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organize a human company?

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You're borrowing an organizational

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hierarchy chart or framework from 100

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years ago. We've been organizing

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companies in this way because, like it

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or not, that just tends to be the way

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that human beings do. Good. We have some

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sort of centralized power, right? CEO

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that delegates to a few other

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centralized powers, CMOs, CTOs, COOs.

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Those in turn delegate and so on and so

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forth.

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But whether it's like a consequence of

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you know, our internal Dunbar numbers or

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just like how much management load every

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individual person can take on,

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you know, human companies tend to look

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very, very similar as you get bigger.

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There's no fundamental reason why an AI

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company has to look like that. There's

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no reason why you have to have an AI CEO

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delegating to an AI COO and an AI CTO

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who delegates to their own sub-agents.

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You're just attempting to fit this

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concept of an AI company in a shape that

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we are all very familiar with, which is

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obviously that of a human company. An

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actual extremely efficiently organized

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AI company would look nothing like this.

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AI intelligence is a really spiky. They

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are vastly more parallelizable, and they

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can also do specific tightly scoped

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tasks thousands of times faster than

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human beings can. Because of these very,

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very big differences, uh there's no

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reason why you'd want like one, you

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know, senior developer agent doing a

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task. Realistically, you'd want to spin

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up 50 of them, have all 50 of them

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produce the same deliverable with minor

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differences, calculate the mode, the

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median, figure out the average things,

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the outliers, collapse those into some,

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you know, formal description of what the

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thing is that they just made, and then

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like, you know, create it with all of

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this information in mind. Human beings

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on the other hand are fantastic at like

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zero-shot tasks. Uh have you guys seen

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Arc AGI-3? That's the the new like AGI

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benchmark essentially. AI freaking blows

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at the ability to do things long-term in

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a reliable manner. Human beings are kind

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of like sniper rifles right now. It's

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almost like self-adjusting uh sniper

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rifles where the bullets can change

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trajectory. We're capable of like

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learning on the fly and and feeding back

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much more effectively at these AI

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agents, which instead tend to just sort

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of be like in a bee-line trajectory.

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Just because of the nature of our

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intelligences and our various task

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domains and specializations, like the

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best, most efficient company in the

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future is not going to look like the way

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that human companies are run today. And

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anybody trying to pretend like that is

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the best way to do things or it's some

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revolutionary thing, they're just trying

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to garner engagement and clicks and a

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bunch of other silly stuff that I don't

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really want to talk about right now. So,

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hopefully what I'm saying here makes

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sense. And I'm open to, you know,

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feedback and some sort of like debate or

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argument in the comments. So, if you

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guys have some interesting points that I

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might not have considered, just let me

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know down below. My take on all of this

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stuff is agent frameworks like this may

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eventually get to a point where they're

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good, but this paperclip thing and this

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theme of organizing, you know, agent

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teams the exact same way you'd organize

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human teams, this is just like people

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looking for some form of engagement. We

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saw the same thing with like N8N agents,

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I don't know, 2 and 1/2 years ago or so.

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And it's like, "My N8N agent controls my

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whole life and pleases my wife." It's

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like, "No, man, it probably doesn't.

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It's just a lot of motion, but not a lot

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of movement, if you catch my drift."

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All right. Have a lovely rest of the

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day. PSA out.

Interactive Summary

The video critiques the current trend of using complex AI agent frameworks, such as 'Paperclip,' to manage workflows. The speaker argues that these tools are often overhyped and used by creators to generate social media engagement rather than actual business value. He emphasizes that true productivity comes from high agency and human execution rather than delegating tasks to unnecessary AI hierarchies, and suggests that mimicking traditional human management structures for AI is fundamentally flawed due to the nature of machine intelligence.

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