Paperclip Sucks, Actually
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You know, I hate to be that guy, but
Paperclip and other agent frameworks
where you're controlling an autonomous
swarm of 500 CMOs just don't do
anything. It sounds really futuristic
and it sounds incredible, but at the end
of the day it's set up a porn. Have you
seen these threads on X and and LinkedIn
and now YouTube videos where people are
like, "I just set up my Paperclip Hermes
agent maximizer to run my Telegram
topics on Vercel." It's like, first of
all, what the heck are any of these
platforms? And second of all, what have
you actually shipped this week? What
have you actually built? How much money
have you made in the last 30 days by
jerking yourself off with a with an open
claw? That's a good one. The point that
I'm trying to make is it's basically
like organizing markdown files in a
folder and YouTubers like myself, people
on X and LinkedIn and stuff like that,
are all incentivized to make every one
of these new agent frameworks and
developments much bigger than they
actually are. I've tried removing names
and stuff cuz obviously I don't want to
put anybody on the spot, but check out
this fellow. This is the peak
19-year-old experience, he says. You
know, it's 2:10 a.m. I got three clawed
code terminals on the MacBook, setting
up Hermes and Paperclip on the monitor
and whisper flowing Hermes inside of my
Telegram topics. What more could you ask
for? This reads like freaking ancient
Egyptian hieroglyphs to anybody that's
actually making money. What more could I
ask for? How about some MRR, little bro?
Like, come on. What are you doing here
that's actually economically valuable?
Or maybe uh this one here. You know, I
really didn't want to manage the AI
team, so XYZ name redacted found a
solution. Paperclip, the open source
project, which she showed me. Paperclip
leads her agents using its project
management setup. Humans on her team use
it to assign tasks to agents. Agents
delegate tasks to humans or other
agents. Paperclip turns your goals into
agent tasks. It turns an SEO audit into
agent tasks. And finally, it organizes
open claw agents or even creates its own
agents. Can I just get to the real meat
and potatoes of whatever this person's
business is? What are you actually
doing? What is actually like external
facing deliverable here that adds value?
The only thing here out of these six
tasks that is not completely
masturbatory, even though it is still
quite masturbatory, is it turns an SEO
audit doc, for example, into agent
tasks. Like this is just doing project
management for agents. This is just
doing project management for agents.
This is just doing project management
for agents. This is just doing project
management for agents. This is just
organizing some BS tool to do more
project management for some other BS
tools. Like the only thing a client or a
customer would ever actually see is some
sort of SEO audit doc here, and it's not
even doing that. It's just turning that
into a bunch of tasks for agents. I
don't think people realize, but like
clients and customers and and people
that are on the other receiving end of a
business, they don't care how you do
stuff. They only care that the stuff
gets done. Likewise, when I see people
make a mountain out of a molehill like
this, it's like what are you actually
getting done? And then they're like,
"Well, I actually orchestrated a team of
whatever the hell."
Uh I'm like, "Okay, great. So, um why
didn't you just do that yourself? It
probably would have taken a hundred
times less actual man-hours than you
trying to build this incredible wrapper
around like an SEO audit doc." And by
the way, what the hell are you doing
with an SEO audit doc anyway, man?
That's 2026.
Okay, check this one out. Zero human
company install using paper clip and
Claude. You know, this looks really
cool, like, you know, went relatively
viral on X and whatnot. You have like a
little terminal with I think Ghost TTY
on the left-hand side, then you have
like the actual paper clip dashboard.
And I mean, like, I was like, "Wow, this
is so cool. What are they actually
doing?" Have you Can you read this?
Hopefully you can. It says "Community
lead agent is defining the community
content and launch strategy."
You know, this one's researching and
evaluating community platforms. This one
here is improving the admin dashboard
UX. And this one here is hardening the
assessment pipeline reliability. Like
three out of the four of these are just
[ __ ] You're just shipping and
building stuff that like helps you ship
and build stuff. You're not actually
shipping and building anything. For
instance, research and evaluate
community platforms. I mean, like,
that's just a Google search, man.
Shouldn't you, as somebody that's about
to like start a whole business or
community on this thing, build with AI,
return my time, whatever the heck,
shouldn't you just make that decision on
your end? Improving the admin dashboard
UX. Oh, I'm sorry, is paperclip not good
enough for you? So, you're going to make
your paperclip dashboard better so that
you can make your paperclip dashboard
better? How about hardening your
assessment pipeline reliability?
Guarantee you, this is some assessment
that, you know, other agents are going
to use to assess the quality of the
deliverables or something. Like, one out
of the four things here are actually
probably moving a needle in some way.
And it's something that realistically,
like, this fellow should not actually be
having a agent do. He'd just like sit
down and think about it for 5 minutes,
he'd do way more.
Okay, I got like another standout one
here. Day two out of 30, trying to make
viral videos on TikTok with paperclip.
Paperclip started and it's already
conducted research with Verlo to
identify trends in the fitness industry.
Then it researches some websites on
Reddit and Hacker News. The main
bottleneck, though, is Agent Dash Media.
I'm not sure if it can create good
enough videos yet. Sometimes the simple
videos work better than complicated
ones. Then, everything is scheduled and
posted Sometimes I'll add the the Larry
skill. Let me know if there's any other
service that I need to connect to
paperclip cuz that's obviously your
bottleneck, bro.
It's like, what is this thing doing?
It's just doing research with Verlo,
Reddit, Hacker News, and scheduling and
posted?
The only thing that matters when you
make videos is are your videos good? Why
are you like spending 99% of your time
around stuff that is not about the main
thing? Just like, make the main thing
the main thing. Just figure out if you
can make good quality videos first. Let
me tell you, I could have a quadrillion
AI agents churning in the background,
but I wouldn't be able to create the
sorts of videos that I create today
because at the end of the day, like, I
am the bottleneck and just like this
fellow is the bottleneck. He's currently
not really realizing that, so instead
he's trying to do everything possible
not to do the work that actually needs
doing. You know what all this reminds me
of? This just generational meme where
you have a simpleton on the left-hand
side and what tool does he use to get
his stuff done? Apple Notes. You have
this sort of like median average fellow
over here and what tool does does he
think he needs? He thinks he needs
Readwise and Anki and Quizlet and Adobe
Acrobat and Notion and a bajillion other
tools. But then what does like really
brilliant like person that actually
moves the needle need? Just, you know,
Apple Notes.
The point that I'm trying to make is
it's never the tool. It's just how you
use the tool. And so, in the case of
Paperclip, which is just so
fundamentally misaligned in terms of AI
and capability and then like what human
beings can do that it's not even really
worth talking about, although I will
talk about it in a second.
The only thing that you actually need in
order to get something done is is really
just the space between your two ears.
And this is a somebody This is from
somebody that like I I I work with AI on
a daily basis. I sell AI on a daily
basis. I I I make money teaching people
AI. It is not in my best interest to
talk about models and frameworks like
this. But the reality is you do not need
models and frameworks in order to do
things.
You just need like a healthy dose of
gumption and high agency to go and
actually do the thing yourself, not
delegate it off to a quadrillion agents.
The last point I'll make on this is I
don't know if anybody remembers this
hilarious exchange between Parag
Agrawal. He was I think the former CEO
of Twitter or something like that. And
then Elon Musk right before he purchased
it. Parag clearly is you know, rage mode
over here. He sends like a 10-line
message and you know, if you go back
further, there's a lot of these sorts of
exchanges between the two. And Elon just
cuts straight to the meat and potatoes
of it, which is just what did you get
done this week? So, anytime I have
anybody be like, "Nick, why aren't you
using Paperclip or Opus Maximizer? Why
aren't you using Ventro to manage your
Telegram topics?" It's like, "What did
you actually get done this week? How
much money have you actually made?" If
you look around at the people that are
actually out there building the largest
amounts
people that are actually like moving the
needle in whatever substantial way,
shape, or form. Of course, they use
these tools, but the tools aren't the
main thing. They're tools, right?
You use the tool. You don't let the tool
use you. And unfortunately, I think some
of our tools, like social media for
instance, are now at the point where
they're very clearly
using and abusing probably some of the
less capable among us for nothing more
than just like internet hype points and
clicks. There's so many problems with
stuff like this is It's even funny. I
mean, why would you organize an AI
company the same way that you would
organize a human company?
You're borrowing an organizational
hierarchy chart or framework from 100
years ago. We've been organizing
companies in this way because, like it
or not, that just tends to be the way
that human beings do. Good. We have some
sort of centralized power, right? CEO
that delegates to a few other
centralized powers, CMOs, CTOs, COOs.
Those in turn delegate and so on and so
forth.
But whether it's like a consequence of
you know, our internal Dunbar numbers or
just like how much management load every
individual person can take on,
you know, human companies tend to look
very, very similar as you get bigger.
There's no fundamental reason why an AI
company has to look like that. There's
no reason why you have to have an AI CEO
delegating to an AI COO and an AI CTO
who delegates to their own sub-agents.
You're just attempting to fit this
concept of an AI company in a shape that
we are all very familiar with, which is
obviously that of a human company. An
actual extremely efficiently organized
AI company would look nothing like this.
AI intelligence is a really spiky. They
are vastly more parallelizable, and they
can also do specific tightly scoped
tasks thousands of times faster than
human beings can. Because of these very,
very big differences, uh there's no
reason why you'd want like one, you
know, senior developer agent doing a
task. Realistically, you'd want to spin
up 50 of them, have all 50 of them
produce the same deliverable with minor
differences, calculate the mode, the
median, figure out the average things,
the outliers, collapse those into some,
you know, formal description of what the
thing is that they just made, and then
like, you know, create it with all of
this information in mind. Human beings
on the other hand are fantastic at like
zero-shot tasks. Uh have you guys seen
Arc AGI-3? That's the the new like AGI
benchmark essentially. AI freaking blows
at the ability to do things long-term in
a reliable manner. Human beings are kind
of like sniper rifles right now. It's
almost like self-adjusting uh sniper
rifles where the bullets can change
trajectory. We're capable of like
learning on the fly and and feeding back
much more effectively at these AI
agents, which instead tend to just sort
of be like in a bee-line trajectory.
Just because of the nature of our
intelligences and our various task
domains and specializations, like the
best, most efficient company in the
future is not going to look like the way
that human companies are run today. And
anybody trying to pretend like that is
the best way to do things or it's some
revolutionary thing, they're just trying
to garner engagement and clicks and a
bunch of other silly stuff that I don't
really want to talk about right now. So,
hopefully what I'm saying here makes
sense. And I'm open to, you know,
feedback and some sort of like debate or
argument in the comments. So, if you
guys have some interesting points that I
might not have considered, just let me
know down below. My take on all of this
stuff is agent frameworks like this may
eventually get to a point where they're
good, but this paperclip thing and this
theme of organizing, you know, agent
teams the exact same way you'd organize
human teams, this is just like people
looking for some form of engagement. We
saw the same thing with like N8N agents,
I don't know, 2 and 1/2 years ago or so.
And it's like, "My N8N agent controls my
whole life and pleases my wife." It's
like, "No, man, it probably doesn't.
It's just a lot of motion, but not a lot
of movement, if you catch my drift."
All right. Have a lovely rest of the
day. PSA out.
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The video critiques the current trend of using complex AI agent frameworks, such as 'Paperclip,' to manage workflows. The speaker argues that these tools are often overhyped and used by creators to generate social media engagement rather than actual business value. He emphasizes that true productivity comes from high agency and human execution rather than delegating tasks to unnecessary AI hierarchies, and suggests that mimicking traditional human management structures for AI is fundamentally flawed due to the nature of machine intelligence.
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