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HEATED DEBATE BETWEEN CAPITALIST & SOCIALIST

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Our political class has lost control.

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>> The right is getting more right than

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ever.

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>> And anytime you have a combination of

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economic problems and social instability

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and cultural problems, you put all those

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things together, it's not a good time.

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It's a time when conflict, violence,

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civil unrest, all of these things are

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much more likely.

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>> Well, civil unrest is actually

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guaranteed.

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>> And what you are now [music] seeing is I

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feel the beginnings of a totally new

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level of separation between people. We

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are on the road to civil unrest. But I'm

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glad we're having this conversation cuz

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these are difficult things to talk

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about.

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>> why China is outperforming the rest of

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the world. There are so many freedoms

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you don't get in America that you do get

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in China.

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>> Would you prefer a Chinese system?

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>> If you switch to America?

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>> Yes.

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>> What about political freedom, freedom of

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the individual? Freedom of speech.

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>> Do you think Steven could run his show

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if he was a Chinese citizen in China and

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have any conversation he wanted?

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>> And you think communism [music] is bad?

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>> I grew up in the Soviet Union, so yes, I

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do think communism is bad. You end up in

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a place where the economy is just

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screwed. So you get equality, but

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everyone's just equally poor.

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>> What is your perspective on AI?

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>> I think the biggest threat to humanity,

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[music]

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if you talk about AI, is actually the

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fact that you're creating something

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that's smarter than you. And if you're

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creating a superior species, you will

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become an inferior [music] species. Best

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case scenario, you become a pet. Worst

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case scenario, you become a cow.

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>> So [music] my next question logically

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becomes, what can we do about it?

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>> There is an actual solution that's

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available, that's clear. I think what we

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should really be focusing on is

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>> You're wrong.

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>> That this is where we're likely to have

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very strong disagreements.

Interactive Summary

The transcript captures a wide-ranging discussion touching on political instability in the US, comparisons between Western and Chinese systems, the dangers of communism based on Soviet experiences, and existential risks posed by the development of superior AI.

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