Happy Friday and welcome to the WAN

show. We've got a great show lined up

for you guys today. I have been alone

for one week.

It's been [laughter]

uh Yeah, my family they they left me.

They are overseas right now without me

for the first time since I entered

matrimonial bliss. [laughter]

>> And it's been a way to describe it.

>> Yeah, it's been it's been kind of an

adventure. I've been taking care of the

chickens and

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Yep. And working on some tech stuff,

playing a lot of badinton. So, I'll be

talking about a little bit about that.

Uh, we've also got Oh, [groaning]

of course, the biggest news of this

week. Going to pause to let them think

about what is the biggest news of this

week. It is, of course, that Rockstar

will be previewing the GTA 6 trailer

exclusively on Netflix.

What?

>> Right. See, Dan appreciates what a big

deal this is.

>> No, I'm not. I I'm just confused.

>> Same.

>> Why?

>> Well, yeah, that's what's funny about

it.

>> Did ne Did Netflix Pick Pick Pick two

topics. Pick two topics. It'll be great.

You'll love it.

>> Uh my brain's too fried from that.

[laughter]

Uh in in continued Xbox conversation,

Halo Studios sees layoffs after shipping

campaign evolved. Um, and let's see

here.

>> I put so much good news in this week and

that's what you find.

>> Yeah,

>> classic Luke. What a Luke move.

>> Uh, should I find another bad one? I'm

sure I can. And BMD BMW BMV is on a

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Bad news show is back, baby. Time to be

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>> Anyway, why don't we jump right into our

headline topic, which

>> full admission, yeah, it's kind of

clickbait,

>> but I've been alone for the week.

>> It's been It's been kind of It's been

kind of fun. I've

>> You know what's weird? Yeah.

>> I had a surprisingly similar week.

>> Emma got sick and I was looking at my

work schedule and I was like, I

literally can't afford to get sick. So,

popped uh set up a air mattress in the

computer room thing and have been hiding

from [laughter]

So, I have I have been like, "Hold up.

There is no space. I have to deflate the

mattress when I wake up so I can walk

around. [laughter] I'm just like stuck

in this little room."

>> You do know what a strange man you are,

right? [laughter]

What a solution. LIKE, THAT'S ALMOST

LIKE that's almost 80s sitcom level of

like, "Well, Mr. Hurley is not going to

let me you get s if I get sick I won't

be able to pay the rent so I'm going to

have to quarantine myself and then they

set up a quarantine and then of course

there's hy jinks and people break the

quarantine and a dog gets involved

somehow like it it actually sounds like

a sitcom episode.

>> Yeah.

>> Um

>> I just can't get sick right now.

>> Yeah. Well, don't get too close to me. I

don't know if you

>> No, I'm fine.

>> Good.

>> Yep.

>> No, I mean I'm sick.

>> Oh my god. [laughter]

NO. COME ON.

>> Do you not notice me like clearing my

throat? [clears throat and laughter]

>> I just thought you I don't know. But you

said you play a lot of Babon. Who knows?

>> Maybe you're uh sure been through a lot

of

>> causes respiratory issues.

>> Activity.

>> Yeah. So, so man, I got to say I am not

ready to be an empty neester.

>> Oh yeah,

>> dude.

>> I I could have told you that.

>> I texted Ivonne this. I texted Ivonne

this. Um, so she's she's over in China

right now because my son is

participating in uh an academic

competition called World Scholars Cup.

Um, and

>> round two is in one of like a handful of

cities and you have to like go there.

Your whole team your whole team of three

has to go there which is like crazy. So

basically it's privileged kid scholars

cup essentially right. Um but they they

they won

>> any such cases. I suspect

>> they won the first round and then they

had to go somewhere and they picked uh

Shanghai uh of all places. It's

apparently super hot like just horribly

horribly hot there and there's a typhoon

incoming. So it's a whole thing. But

that's besides the point. The point is

that she's overseas right now and I

texted her and I was like I did

something today that I haven't done in

the 13 years that Linus Media Group has

existed. And she's like, "Yeah, what?

You can't can't lead with something like

that and not just immediately tell me

what it is." And I was like,

>> "I came home after work. I got a snack

and I fell asleep watching TV on the

couch. [laughter]

I'm in the like I'm in the like latter

half of Solar Opposites where the show

gets kind of bad.

>> I don't even know." And I was just like

I I woke up at like 5 after 8 and I was

like, "Oh, oh my god, I'm supposed to It

was on Tuesday. I was supposed to be at

LMG badminton 5 minutes ago. Oh,

[laughter] okay. Go go go get some

clothes on and go, but I I I passed out

for like an hour.

>> Like uh, you know, dadcoded thing ever.

[gasps]

>> Crazy.

>> Yeah,

>> crazy.

>> I don't have something to do. Time to

fall asleep exactly where I currently

am. [laughter]

Oh man. And the chickens have been a

trip this week.

>> Okay. Yeah. So, so,

>> okay. So, we're still working on

training them to to like go in their

coupe.

>> Uh, we still haven't decided whether

we're going to do like a run, like a

fully enclosed run

>> or if we're just going to let them kind

of like free range in the backyard.

>> And then you got to round them up.

>> During the day, it's actually not really

a problem. Like most of the chicken

predators are going to be things like

raccoons, uh, coyotes, that sort of

thing. I mean, a bear got into our yard

once. I'm sure that would take out a

chicken pretty easily,

>> but it's all more active at night.

>> This is more nocturnal threats. And we

have had some some kitty cats in our

yard, but the chickens are at the point

now where honestly my cats are more

scared of them than anything else. U,

they were they were watching them

through the window yesterday. I got this

really cute video of them like like

jumping up on a window and then the

chickens would go over here and they'd

like hop down. They jump up on a

different window. We're watching them

and I get I grab Brownie. I pick him up

and I'm like, "Okay, do you want to see

the chickens?" And I take him outside

and he was an outdoor cat uh when he was

a kitten and he's been real clear about

that. That was good. [laughter] He's

good on outside.

>> Done with that.

>> Yeah, that's that's actually the biggest

difference. We We've like so catproofed

our whole situation and we finally have

cats that have no interest whatsoever in

going outside. Like we lost cats to the

outdoors before and like I'm talking

skate artist

>> everything they could to sneak out

>> everything they could to get out. They

would open door handles the freaking

Bengals. Like it was crazy. Um

>> and and these guys don't want to go

outside. But I was like, "Okay, come on.

Come on, Brandy. Let's go." And so I

grab him. I kind of like bundle him up.

Grab his legs. I go and I take him. I

show them the chickens and he's like And

he looks up at me all airplane ears.

[laughter]

Okay. All right. We're going back

inside, buddy. Let's go. You're good.

You're good. And we like we had one cat

in the yard that was kind of scoping

them out and I kind of watched them, but

they're big enough now that like four

chickens I don't think a cat's going to

like go in there.

>> Aggressive enough cat

>> find a particularly murderous cat. But

in most cases, probably not.

>> But they tend to kind of herd together

and all four of them get all

[clears throat] puffy and up in your

face. And we think one of them is a

rooster, which you're technically not

allowed to have in our city, but you can

apparently get collars for them that

make it so that they can't like

and like do the big crow, but are not

like uncomfortable or anything. I

haven't really looked into it. Maybe

it's like super inhumane and it's better

to like send them to the chicken sausage

factory. I'm I'm actually not sure yet,

so don't get too mad at me yet. I

haven't I haven't looked it up yet, but

uh that is maybe a possibility to keep

our keep our R, which we'd like to do

cuz they're like they got so much

personality, man. Uh here I I sent this

to um actually hold on. I'm not sure if

I can

>> someone someone bring up a previous WAN

[clears throat] show where uh Lionus

mentions like why would you have a bird?

They're so boring.

>> Um I don't think I said birds are

boring.

>> I might be. Uh

>> maybe you're just very sensitive.

>> I might. Yeah, I might be. So, I can't I

can't show this one on uh I can't show

this one on stream, but I took this

video and I sent it to uh to everyone

overseas. I was like, "The the chickens

are are uh they miss you." But

basically, I'm coming home and they all

come they all come dashing over to me.

How you doing? How you doing? What's up?

What's up? What's up? And they come hang

around and I'll go I'll be around in the

yard. They're like following me around.

It's so cute. Um, so anyway, the

chickens have been kind of a bear

because I forget if it was Wednesday or

Thursday. So, they've got the coupe and

I'm getting pretty good at like rounding

them all up and getting them into the

coupe. And we're going to I'm going to

get some meal worms which apparently you

can use to they it's like a really

really um high reward treat. Um, and I'm

going to try and train them to like get

them up on the ramp and then a little

closer on the ramp and then inside the

coupe when we kind of get to dusk cuz

they want to be in there. They actually

go near it.

>> Are you pairing it with a noise? I know

chickens respond to that really

effectively.

>> I make I like make, you know, animal dad

noises at them, but other than that, not

yet.

>> Sure. I know a lot of people do like a

bell when it's feeding time and they

respond really effectively to the bell

or whatever, but

>> yeah, Pavlov, I think, was one of the

pioneers [laughter] that concept.

>> Thank you, Dan. Um, timely. So, so

they're they're pretty good about

wanting to go into their coup. They like

their coupe, actually. So,

>> yeah, birds are Yeah,

>> good job. Um, and but but coming out of

their coupe in the morning, it's

actually been really great so far. They

they go down their little ramp, they

they go hang out in the yard, except one

morning, I forget if it was Wednesday or

Wednesday, I think it was. I went out,

I'm like, "Jickeys, where are you guys?

Come on." I shake their their food

container. Oh, I guess I do make that

noise. So, I shake their food container.

I'm like, "Okay, come on. Come on,

Jacens. Where are you?"

>> Uhoh.

So, I like lap the whole yard cuz I

found them in weird places. Um like we

were uh we were um you call them whipper

snippers, but we were using a hedge or

not a hedge trimmer. Like a grass

trimmer.

>> I don't think you remember that.

[laughter]

[gasps]

>> I was using a grass trimmer, you know,

with the little strings on the end. I

forget what they're actually called now.

I only know his stupid name for them.

[laughter]

>> Um weed whacker.

>> Weed whacker. Thank you. And

>> a lot better than Whipper Snipper.

>> Sure. [laughter]

>> And

>> I like that. I'm calling them from from

now on. And they they were all like

hiding in like a far corner of the yard

that they never go to. So like sometimes

they go weird places, but I I lap the

whole place. I'm like, I'm late for work

now. Later. And I'm like, this is

ridiculous. Where are they? And I go,

okay, they didn't. There's no way they

did. And I go, the coupe is like right

next to the fence with our neighbor.

And from the ground, they can't get to

the fence. But from the ramp to the

coupe, I bet they could. Not one, not

two, not three, all four of them. I look

over the fence [laughter] and they're

right there. They're right under the

fence. They've been frantically trying

to get to me the whole time. But when

they went over, they ended up in like a

in like a like a a plant bed of some

sort that has ground cover that's about

this deep. and they're too scared of it.

So, they're in this little track right

next to the fence. That's the only place

where nothing's growing. And they're

stuck and they can't get out. And my

neighbor apparently has been violating

the watering ban right now cuz when I

went into their yard to go get them, um,

everything was soaking wet. So, I like

get my pants all wet. I have to go get

them one by one. I have to catch them,

which, you know, they're chicken.

They're and they're panicked. They're

scared. I have to go get them and then I

I was I had to make a choice. Either I

have to hike all the way back around to

the other side or I'm just going to put

them on the fence and hope that they

don't hop back down here while I gather

all the rest of them. But they're flock

animals, so as soon as you separate one,

IT'S LIKE

IT WANTS to get to the other ones.

Anyway, uh the point is I managed to get

them. Uh I love that chicken chaser.

Wasn't that one of the fable uh

nicknames or was that chicken I

can't remember. No, that that was self

park. Doesn't matter. The point is we

got the chicken. No, I'm not going to

toss them over the fence.

>> Um, [clears throat]

where was I going with this? Right. So,

caring for the chickens. That's been

interesting. Um, I've found a little

more time to do tech stuff.

>> Caring for the chickens and sleeping on

the couch. Okay. Tech stuff. Can you

finish your

>> No.

>> Okay.

>> I got distracted. So, he was going to

ask if I've finished setting up my my

local LLM AI stuff. If I want to do some

um like object vehicle person

recognition stuff, I have played around

a little bit more with home assistant.

So, I have some more kind of automations

going like I can make it so that if

Ivonne's at her desk for half an hour,

it plays music. I think I talked about

that.

>> Um there's a really cool feature of the

like project Lionus

>> um

>> switches from

>> Oh, right. Yeah.

>> Uh bloody bloody hell. It's on the tip

of my tongue is in. Um there's a there's

a really cool feature on the the the

Inavlli millimeter wave. I think they're

the red series or the ones that I have,

the Z-Wave ones. Um that allows you to

handle lights that can go really dim,

but only if they start bright.

So, so if so, if you want them, so like

say in a in your bathroom, your on suite

bathroom, right? Like if you want to

create a rule where late at night it

only turns on at like 2%. Right? You

can't do that.

>> Would it have to like flash up and then

come down?

>> Well, okay. So, you could do that or or

Inve

a burst of power for this many

milliseconds

and then go to this. So, you can

overcome that um that inability to start

up at a really low dimness or a really

low brightness and but but go straight

to it kind of thing. It's kind It's

almost like pixel overdrive on a gaming

monitor.

>> Does it still create a a flash?

>> No. If you tune it exactly right, so

I've been working on stuff like that.

But the big one I've gotten distracted

by is actually the script that I was

working on. That is the reason the show

is on time instead of early today.

>> And that is, did you know that there's

like a secret Netflix for billionaires?

>> No. Why? Why?

>> It's been around since 2001.

25

years this has existed.

>> What

>> it started out as like a bougie sort of

semiofficial way to back up real

physical media libraries and make them

streamable. And then over time, they

actually did deals with the major

studios to not only allow you to access

like AAA movies, like I'm talking Star

Wars, Disney, freaking uh Universal,

20th Century Fox, you name it, right? Um

Paramount, like all this stuff. But

these guys managed to completely survive

the like streamer fragmentation wars and

have just continued to be their own own

thing. Not only that, but you can

actually for many films get the highest

quality available version of it

exclusively on this platform.

>> Rest assured in full plane chat that's

where a lot of movie rips on the web

come from.

>> No, it sure isn't.

>> Huh.

>> 100% isn't. It has never their

encryption has still not been broken. Uh

and we would know if it had because

there would be like 120 megabit per

second rips of films and they don't

exist.

So, I watched uh Top Gun Maverick uh on

the Kaleid Escape Strato uh K. This is a

$5,000,

as far as I can tell, Android box

that Oh, no, it gets better. Can hold

anywhere from 7 to 10 movies at once.

>> That's it. If you want to hold more, you

get their server box that is going to

cost you anywhere from thousands to tens

of thousands more.

>> Jesus.

>> And then and then you still don't own

any movies [laughter]

because it's less of a of a streaming

platform and more of a like digital

movie ownership platform except that the

only place you can watch it is on their

box. And that's a big part of why they

have been able to maintain their

encryption is that you can only stream

it from their server. You can only watch

it on their box. The whole thing's

locked down. And they even

>> um and they even have um like kind of

like like pixel uh pixel tagging or like

some kind of uh like like image

watermark baked into the film that you

stream that you can't see. um that will

out you if you are the one who manages

to who

>> yeah so an identifier

>> gets like an HTCP stripper and does like

an extremely high quality rip of it for

instance they will be able to identify

you and I can pretty much guarantee you

they will prosecute you because this is

like a huge part of their business model

is having this locked down so that they

can deliver the highest fidelity version

of the film I didn't think it would

matter at all going from like you know,

60ish megabit per second to like 100ish

megabit per second.

>> Noticeable. Very noticeable. Is it more

noticeable because you have an enormous

TV?

>> Oh, 100%.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, I mean, it's not the kind of thing

that you would buy unless you have like

a sick projection setup.

>> If you're if you can afford this thing,

you can probably afford the crazy TV.

>> You are not streaming it on your, you

know, insignia.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Like that's not what it's for. And it

was one of those things where I I kind

of had to I kind of had to like, you

know, am I imagining this, you know? So,

cuz I'm I'm watching Maverick on this.

And it's not a film that I've actually

watched all the way through before. So,

I was like, maybe it just looks that

good on the 4K Blu-ray, but this is like

the best looking that I've ever seen a

movie ever. Um, and I couldn't really

put my finger on why. Like, it was shot

on Sony Venice. Great camera, lovely

camera, you know, but lots of films are

shot on Venice. Um, and obviously, you

know, the production values of it are

incredible, you know, like actual jets

and stuff.

>> Did you do like uh input switching?

>> So, at first I didn't At first I was

just like, "No, I'm just going to

experience it."

>> Sure.

>> And I kept just like seeing things that

were like like like blew my mind how

good they looked. like just the the sky

like or there's a there's a scene really

early on in the hanger where they've got

this like bright outdoor natural light

coming into the hanger. And I couldn't

put my finger on why it looked so real,

why it looked like looking through a

window instead of watching on a screen.

And so I did I I I grabbed a 4K Blu-ray

rip remix, like not not a re-encoded

one, and started switching back and

forth between the inputs. And the

difference is so subtle,

but there's a little bit of banding in

the 4K Blu-ray. Just a little bit, not

much, just a little bit, but the effect

is greater than

>> Yeah. the difference that I can that I

can pick out because it ma it takes

light from looking like

an encoded

color to looking like

>> window

>> light.

>> Yeah.

>> And the other one is film grain. So this

is something that I've really struggled

with in the transition from analog to

digital. Right. In analog, we all agreed

that things like CRT scan lines and film

grain looked like it was supposed to

look and looked natural. But as we've

transitioned to watching that an that

analog media on through digital players

over digital connections on digital

screens,

what we've ended up with is that film

grain in my opinion mostly just

contributes to more garbage in to be

misinterpreted by my encoder and my

decoder as garbage out.

But by pushing the bit rate so high,

it's kind of like what I first observed

when I used the first 5K LCD where I

went, "Oh, I can just run this at a

non-native resolution now and it

actually doesn't really matter." So,

this is the threshold for me where we're

encoding at a high enough fidelity that

film grain looks natural again instead

of just looking like crappy encoding and

decoding. So, those are the two big

things. Now, now, now, now, now now,

now, hold on. Spoiler for the video. So,

if you, you know, want to hear the

conclusion when you watch the actual

video, then then do this. Um,

is it worth it? Oh, hell no. Not I would

>> I mean, there's like no way.

>> I wouldn't pay that kind of, dude. I

found a movie on their service that was

45 dollars to buy. [laughter]

>> Nice.

>> Like,

>> how much? How? So,

>> Aladdin. Aladdin.

>> 1992's Aladdin was $30

US.

>> You can buy it on YouTube for five

bucks.

>> And that's not even the cinematic 4K

um format that has the like super high

bit rate. Oh yeah. So for Dan, just so

you know, it's 444.

Yeah. Right. So that's the difference in

like color banding that we're talking

about. You also said to buy so you can

>> you can rent some films for as little as

like seven bucks, eight bucks.

>> No, I was I was more interested that

there was the option to even just buy

them.

>> Me too. Me too. It's not just

subscription.

>> I thought it would be like 45 bucks to

rent.

>> However, you know, I think there's a

longer conversation to be had around

this because it does use a proprietary

DRM that when you're buying it,

are you do are you buying it? Is it

forever? And Collidoscope's been around

a long enough time now that I, you know,

I look at their model and I go, "Okay,

well, they haven't anybody over yet."

So, they at least have some credibility

there. But, I mean, companies don't last

forever. Companies that last for a

hundred years are are so few and far

between that they're a statistical

anomaly. You know

>> what?

>> I just I

>> I thought you were disagreeing with

that.

>> Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

>> I don't think that's a controversial

state. I'm I'm poking through their

website and

>> dude testimonial [laughter] is crazy

testimonials and there's Martin

Scorsesei and you keep scrolling.

>> Oh, no, no, no. Look at this. Look at

this quote. Frankly, I don't know what I

would do without it says Martin

Scorsese.

>> Holy crap. What the heck? The next one

is Ben Affleck,

who they put as filmmaker. Sure. I mean,

he is.

>> Yeah, Goodwill Hunting he wrote.

>> No, I know. It's just that he does

everything. Why is he why is he getting

in a steady game? I

>> I think he's actually like done actually

basically every role.

>> That's cool.

>> Yeah. No, as far as my understanding

goes, that's true.

>> Super multi-talented guy. Casual Josh

Gad.

>> My goodness.

>> Yep.

>> Pretty incredible. It goes downhill

pretty fast from there.

>> Yeah.

>> Random cinema enthusiast.

>> Someone's first name.

>> Um

>> this guy,

>> rich dude. [laughter] Those

first two is wild though.

>> Crazy. Wait, the first three is pretty

wild. You don't know who Josh Gad is?

>> Uh, no.

>> Oh, that's Olaf from Frozen.

>> Oh, okay.

>> And also the lead of Book of Mormon when

it first uh hit Broadway, if I recall

correctly, and just various other

things. He's super talented guy.

>> Um, so yeah, I've been I've been working

on uh just kind of experiencing it. It's

It's a loner. nuts.

>> Um, I I only have it for I think like

three months or something like that. So,

I'm gonna going to, you know, get the

most out of it while I got it. The

interface is funky. I I'll wait to show

that in the video, but it reminds me of

like Final Fantasy 6.

>> Just to give you some idea.

I'm talking bright blue text boxes, big

old white text.

>> Whoa.

>> Very, very installer friendly.

And it took me a while to realize that.

I was like, "This does not feel very

premium." And then I went, "The customer

is never supposed to see this."

>> Oh,

>> yeah.

>> I see. All right.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

>> Uh, wy giraffe, we're talking about the

Strato K, not the E. That's the one for

poor people. WY giraffe. The K is the

new one.

>> He found He found the one for three

grand.

>> Oh, yeah. I love as well when you go to

their website under their more they list

Marine first home theater.

>> Oh yeah, buddy.

>> My goodness.

>> Got to put one on the yacht.

>> OH MY GOD.

>> YEAH, BUDDY.

>> This is classic if you have to ask. You

know what I'm saying?

>> Yep. Sheesh.

>> It's actually great for marine use

though because you don't stream it. You

c it locally

>> pre-downloaded.

>> Yep. So when you're not going to have

internet or whatever, especially in the

pre-S Starlink days, this would

>> How many movies could it store though?

You said

>> seven to 10.

>> Yeah. What?

>> On the on the box. But remember, you you

got to get the server. You got to get

the server. You got a yacht. You don't

have a server on your yacht.

>> Your yacht has a server.

>> Yeah. What are you even talking about?

[sighs]

>> Oh man. How much does their ultimate 4K

system performance meets luxury terra

server thing cost? You can buy it at

Best Buy. Oh, no. You buy it online at

Best Buy.

>> Yep. Yeah, you can buy stuff on Best

Buy. I have a feeling that most people

are not Okay, hold on a second. What is

Red Carpet Home Cinema? Okay. Oh my god.

Apparently, there's another secret.

There's another secret Netflix for

billionaires.

>> Hey, look. It's our ad, too.

>> Nice. Uh, sure. Whatever. Uh, okay. They

can they can rent current run movies.

Whoa.

>> Holy crap.

>> For 1,500 to $3,000 a pop

>> delivered and installed.

>> No, but Luke, that No, no, no. That's

current run though.

>> That's like stuff that I didn't know you

could do that.

>> I can watch OP. No, the Odyssey on my

phone before anybody else.

>> Crazy. [laughter]

>> Join now. $15,000 plus. What are we Oh,

wait. Hold on. Apparently, these guys

don't exist anymore.

Oh, red carpet homecine.com is uh L

gone. So that was just like a referral

link. Okay, maybe they're dead. Offers

first run.

This is why I'm broke.com.

Okay, hold on. What? What is this?

Rubber band gatling gun mini retro

external display TV. I know. Never mind.

Okay, check it out. Yeah, no, they're

gone. They're gone. Sorry, they're gone.

So, I guess Collide Escape is the only

game in town. Crazy.

>> Anyway, yeah, I'm trying to think if

there's anything else that I've really

been doing on my week off playing lots

of badminton.

>> Yeah, played the tournament that I was

going to miss. I was going to miss my

own annual tournament at Smash Champs,

but instead I was able to play it. So,

>> nice.

>> Yeah. Won the first uh first match, then

crashed out in the next two. So, that

was good. Yeah.

>> I don't know if you want to talk about

it. How did the thing go?

>> I don't want to talk about it. Okay.

>> I don't know what you're talking about.

Uh the the thing that other Dan did.

>> Oh. Uh good.

>> Nice.

>> Yeah. Oh, dude. Oh, man. Okay. That's

one of the other things I was working on

this afternoon that I'm really excited

about. So, if you're on float plane,

there's a float plane exclusive that

actually ended up being like a certified

mega banger. People freaking loved it.

Um it was originally supposed to be a

mainline video on LT, but it took so

long to come out

>> that it just didn't make sense to

release it publicly. But we did still

release it on float plane. It was me.

>> I think the non-flat plane audience

genuinely would have been very confused.

>> Yeah.

>> But the float plane audience is going to

be a little bit more dialed in. So it

was okay.

>> Yeah. So it was me vibe coding. Um

basically if you're if you're into

pickle ball, it's pretty much the um Oh,

what what what is this? Uh I think it's

called duper. Yeah, it's pretty much the

duper system for pickle ball, which is

pretty much the ELO system uh that is

used in chess. So, basically, you've got

uh a rating and they've kind of adapted

it to a narrower band of number values.

>> I swear every player rating system ever

can ultimately be boiled down to rating

with extra steps.

>> Yeah, Starcraft,

>> it's all it's all just chess rating with

extra steps.

>> It's all just ELO. It's all the ELO

system. So, so anyway, it's it's uh

basically I vibecoded just to see what

it would be like an an ELO rating system

and like tournament management

dashboard. um that ended up the simplest

way um to do it was just to use Google

Sheets and then a bunch of scripting and

automations uh and formulas in order to

have like a check-in sheet and uh manage

events uh print out little like match

cards that people could report their

scores on, create like a dashboard for

entering the scores, and then it was

able to track people's people's ELO

scores. As part of that video, the there

was like a challenge component where a

real developer in this case um sorry

does he use his name publicly?

>> Uh not his last one.

>> Cool. So a different Dan, not that Dan,

totally different Dan uh who works for

the company uh would get the sameish

number of hours to make something

actually good like a developer would

make it. And then we would compare my

solution to his. The real reason we did

any of this was because it's really hard

for me to get dev time from this guy

unless it's content.

>> Yeah. So it didn't even end up being

content except it's on float plane the

me vibe coding it saga including doing

some review of my finished product and

stuff

>> to to explain the reason why it didn't

end up launching is basically that uh

this whole like you know clawed code um

running it locally looping type thing uh

started happening in like the middle of

that. So this was purely an LLM and it

was purely before

>> pre-agentic era pretty much.

>> Yeah. And pre pre-cloud code and all

that kind of stuff. So it's like by the

time the video would have launched every

single freaking comment

>> would have been what the heck is this?

Why didn't you use this other thing?

>> Yeah.

>> So it was like ah

>> why didn't you use the good one

>> because we recorded it a while ago. Deal

with it. Um, so, so anyway, Dan's been

working on that and, uh, we got a new

version of it that he actually came out

to see working in person last night,

which was pretty great. And we found

some bugs in like queuing for who goes

on court. But compared to my system,

which was only able to do like open

doubles with fixed groups of four and

you just play your six matches and we

record the scores and that's it. uh he's

expanded it to be able to do ELO ratings

for open doubles, women's doubles, mixed

doubles, singles, uh in addition to

um like a really nice dashboard for

tracking your progress over time. Uh way

better setups for different formats. So

we don't have to do just like a

pod-based system, he calls it, where you

play with the same people all night.

We'll also be able to do just like a

ranked night. So over time during the

evening, you can actually be like

rerated more like you would in like

online matchmaking. Um he's working on

an interface where we'll be able to have

tablets beside every court so people can

just like boop their wristbands and then

start a match which is so freaking cool.

>> Um trying to think of like what else

he's uh he's done. Basically just the

admin and maintenance of it is going to

be so much better. And then I've

[clears throat] without speaking with

you also hinted to him that if this

thing is good enough, I see no reason

why other clubs couldn't potentially use

it.

>> There's a there's a few different things

we've made um that we should probably

have conversations about.

>> Like should we just productize them?

>> Yeah. The problem is that the rigor that

has to go into it once you do that

>> I know

>> is very high. There's also a lot of ways

that something that might uh might be

built that doesn't like

it's not portable. It works with the

systems that we have that's not

necessarily a system that everybody's

going to have. Um etc etc etc. But um

Scrappy also asked who gets to be

support. It's like yeah there's like

there's a lot more conversation that

starts to come up. Um, what I would like

to see first,

>> I can tell you there's a lot of money in

like

>> do you have customers

>> is would be what I would look for. And

who's going to sell it, Lionus?

>> Not me.

>> Who's going to [laughter]

not me?

>> We've seen that from float plane.

[laughter]

>> Uh, but yeah, maybe there's there's a

couple I mean, there's there's things

that other Dan has built that I think

there should be some pretty serious

conversations about that around. Uh

there's things from the lab that I think

could have a discussion there. Um but we

need people to sell it. We need to

figure out what the potential customer

base would be because it would take

upfront investment to move those things

to something that could be a product

instead of an internal tool.

>> Ongoing support and maintenance

budgeting. Yeah.

>> Which

>> is makes sense if you have customers.

>> A much bigger commitment than just

here's a tool we built. It works good

enough for us. Like, okay, I I remember

showing you the internal systems that we

used at NCIX, right? Did you do you

remember seeing that inter that

interface?

>> It was like hairy,

sweaty,

like sloppy ass. It was so bad. But man,

I could do my job. I could I could fly

through that thing. But if I ever had to

show anybody else how to use it, like it

it would the onboarding curve for like a

like a product manager like category

manager type of position was crazy. Like

I was years into my role and I would

still have to go to someone like uh you

know William the the the NCIX backend

whisperer if I wanted to figure out how

to do something or I'd have to create

like weird cludgy workarounds where it

actually mattered like exactly what

order you did all your stuff in and we

were only able to achieve this stuff

through trial and error. Like it was

there was no documentation for basically

any of it. And so I would sometimes

you'd have people uh you'd see like a

like a feature request and it would make

its way all the way to like even the

verge of being developed and literally

nobody remembered that we already had a

feature that did the same thing but it

was just called something else and there

was no documentation for it anywhere.

Like it was it was kind of crazy. Like

in some ways I get it because you know

you want to be agile and you want to you

know execute on an idea so you like make

a feature or whatever but the flip side

of that is okay if you don't keep track

of this stuff then at some point you're

going to have to pay the piper and the

piper wants your tech debt dollars.

[snorts and laughter]

So it was a it was a big challenge. Uh

Kirkland Signature in float plane chat

says the airline internal systems are

crazy. I believe that cuz like they've

been running since the mid 19th century

and in many cases

like they if you if it ain't broke.

>> Yeah. Some of them are ancient.

>> Yeah.

>> Some of those things are are very very

old.

>> Yeah. I've never I've never like looked

over an attendant's shoulder to, you

know, see what it looks like cuz that

would be a weird creepy thing to do. But

I don't know, maybe I should just to

kind of scope it out.

Um,

>> I don't even know what topic we're on.

>> We're on what you did this week.

>> Oh, okay.

>> And Babmonton was one of them, which is

why we're on that topic.

>> That's cool.

>> Yeah,

>> we can talk about something else now.

>> Sure.

>> That's all I have to say about that.

>> Uh, should we talk about the the main

topic of Samsung banned smart TV apps or

what was the first what is the Yeah, the

title was based around that. So, should

we talk about the Samsung thing?

>> Sure. Anything you like.

>> The move comes after Okay. Samsung bans

TV apps that share users internet

connections with others,

>> which sounds like the kind of thing that

just wouldn't be allowed in the first

place, but do go on.

>> Mhm.

>> The move comes after Norwegian cyber

security company Nemonic discovered that

at least one app featured as editor's

choice contained code that secretly

allows the TV to be used as a

residential proxy.

that is it allows strangers internet

traffic to be routed through the TV

making it appear to come from the user's

network which could be really bad

depending on what those people want to

use it for which is probably really bad

things. Uh residential proxies are

extremely valuable to web scrapers and

other bots. Yeah. and malicious actors

in general as it can make network

traffic appear to come from residential

IPs rather than a known data center or

VPN address which can cause servers to

let their guard down and allow traffic

that would they would normally try to

block. This is one of the reasons why if

you try to do basically anything on a

VPN, every single website is like, "Oh

my god, are you a bot?" Um because

they're seeing the same IP do a ton of

different things. Um, so it's that it's

you're avoiding that type of a problem

um

>> for your home personal connection.

>> Yeah. A number of well-known games and

IPs ported by developer Playworks, uh,

who reports installations in over 400

million homes, include an SDK from a

firm named Bright Data, who specialize

in online data collection. Impacted

titles include Pac-Man, Tetris, and

Space Invaders. Those are on

wild. I don't spend any time on TV. Uh

by default the SDK code is dormant but

on launch the games reach out to a

remote server for configuration which

can include enabling the code which in

this case offer the users uh ad free

gaming in exchange for using your

devices free resources and IP address to

download public data from the internet.

>> This is like

>> wo

>> dude it's this whole thing is crazy.

>> What

>> I know this blew my mind when I was

reading about I thought it was going to

be like uh ad free cuz you you know

bought the thing or paid a subscription

or did whatever.

>> No, these exit nodes are extremely

valuable.

>> What the hell?

>> So, and and the then I believe that's

like legal.

>> Developing a stupid Pac-Man clone costs

practically nothing.

>> You don't even have to pay the hosting

because the TV the TV vendor store is

going to host it for you. So, you're

just like, "Oh, okay. Here's some

absolute slop like you know random coded

by rando developers or realistically

these days AI slop developed game in

exchange

I get to download anything I like

through your internet connection and

then upload it to wherever I want.

That's this whole thing is so crazy.

Yeah. Um, okay. So, Bright Data

specializes in online data collection

and offers customers nearly 800

different curated data sets. Things like

LinkedIn data, product pricing and stock

info, product reviews, etc. Bright Data

is estimated to have more than 9 million

of these residential proxies around the

world. Wow. Bright Data was founded by

Illuminati Networks,

>> founded as

>> founded as Luminati Networks. Very close

to a different word.

>> What a name. um as as a division of

HolaVPN. Oh yeah, HolaVPN, which you may

recall made the news for turning client

devices into a massive botnet back in

2015. Yeah, I remember that. Um I think

they offered freeVPN, which is why so

many people used it and then yeah, they

just jacked people's devices like crazy.

Uh, Nemonic also called the Samsung App

Store an utter security nightmare and

reported finding hard-coded API keys,

developer certificates, and leftover AI

coding agent notes in many apps. Yeah,

that should surprise no one. Um, earlier

this summer, spur. US reported that

nearly half of LG smart TV apps had

hidden proxies built in. What's

happening?

Oh my god. Uh, shortly after LG

responded by banning residential proxies

from their app store,

uh, the way games like this are shipped

to app stores presents a significant

challenge to security auditors.

>> This one blew my mind because everything

we've said so far makes it sound like

complete and utter negligence on the

part of Samsung and LG,

and it is.

But

this changes the framing a little bit.

Yeah, someone I think someone thought I

misqued. Uh, no, this is LG.

>> This part is LG. We started talking

about Samsung. Uh, the last line that

we're talking about was LG, not Samsung.

>> Um,

yeah. The reason why I gave the like

thumbs up thing is because of what

they're going to say next, actually,

because I knew this was coming. Um, like

cool, you banned it. Yeah, sounds good.

Uh, the the Play D.Works or is that a

thing on my screen?

>> Yeah, playworks.

>> Play.Works works Pac-Man game is

presented to the store in just 20 lines

of HTML that create an empty frame with

game logic and assets are loaded on the

fly from a play.Works server, meaning it

can be completely changed at any time.

There's is it also very common for apps

to just load a base thing from the store

and then really download most the data

from some other server because while the

store will host your stuff unlike I

think steam Dan might know more about

this you get charged for your data flow.

Um so they actually want it to come from

some cheaper source. Um you also get uh

if your app is like huge you might get

downranked in the store.

>> Mhm. So, you generally want to hide the

size of your app, especially if it's

like a big game or big assets in the

game. So, you'll often have the initial

download be small so it doesn't get

flagged.

>> I actually didn't know this. I I thought

that they would just cover the hosting

costs like many other marketplaces, but

I guess they're just too cheap for

>> That's old information. It's possible

it's changed. Um, ours is not big enough

because most of the big data for

Flowplane is the videos themselves, um,

not the actual initial app itself. But I

know some games that have really big

like there was a game that was popular

for a while

game

>> and the asset sizes for each card was

like super high

>> cuz you could like zoom in and whatever

and they had hundreds and hundreds of

cards. So the game was massive,

but it would update to be massive.

>> Got it.

>> The initial download was not crazy high.

And when they'd add different packs to

the game and stuff, the the download was

enormous.

>> Got it. Um, and this is this is like

quite common, especially in the gaming

side of of app development, and I'm sure

it would be the same on TV, which is why

I did the whole thumbs up thing because

it's like they're probably going to get

data in some other way, either this

frame thing where it's streamed in or an

update after the fact that isn't

necessarily coming from your servers or

whatever. And then like are you really

do I really think the like Samsung or LG

app security teams are going to be like

super thoroughly going through every

single thing

>> and every update

>> and every update

>> and watching everything that's streaming

in. I mean

>> we I mean we see this on

>> I have firsthand witnessed the

amazing levels of security checking that

happens on like iOS and Android and

those are going to be way more advanced

than whatever is going on in TV land

>> probably orders of magnitude.

>> Yeah. So anyways, we'll keep going.

>> And and sorry, the the part that maybe

was missed because we kind of glossed

over it is if none of that network

sharing code is actually in the download

that is coming off of Samsung or LG's

store, then it's not immediately obvious

that that's that that it's there.

>> They might they might have manual

reviews or whatever where someone

actually does do the full download of

the app, but like

>> that's so optimistic of you. I love it.

>> It happens on Android and iOS. Yeah, I

just mean that

>> you have you have to give them long and

stuff. But again, we come back to the TV

thing. Do I actually expect that to

happen? It's like not really. Um, after

TechCrunch contacted Samsung, we're back

to Samsung again with a request for

comment about the research, the

electronics giant said in an emailed

statement that it was banning apps that

share their users internet connections

and will remove apps that contain the

functionality. Um, it's the follow

through. Yeah, it's the follow through

that I'm I'm like,

>> can they actually stop? Um,

>> how much faith do we have given that

they didn't stop it in the first place

and there's a millions strong bot army

>> thanks to

>> and tons of money behind making these

things happen. This is the whole problem

with all of this stuff like anti-che in

video games.

>> There's way more money behind exploiting

it than there is behind stopping it. It

>> is very difficult to measure the amount

of money that there is behind stopping

it. It is very easy to measure the vast

amounts of money that there is around

making the thing. Um, I don't know if

it's in the doc, but

there was I'm scrolling. I don't know if

I see it. There was a a data breach at

framework. Did you see that?

>> These types of things happen all the

time. Yeah,

>> I'm not blaming framework here.

>> I didn't I didn't I haven't actually

read the statement behind it. I don't

know the details yet. none of the

details behind it. Uh, we should

probably look that up now that I'm

looking it up now.

>> Um,

but it's just like, oh man, you do what

you can and then things are going to

break out from there.

>> Like how much h and I I can understand

the like

super proconsumer move is going to be

like, oh, it should just you should

there should just be no problems. It's

like, okay, sure.

But damn,

the best way to resolve this is just not

have a smart TV. That's pretty sick.

Oh, that is extremely inconvenient.

>> Um, we're seeing like the

>> names, email addresses, phone numbers,

and physical addresses due to an

incident at a company that provides

business intelligence.

>> Oh,

>> come on.

No payment information. So, that's

>> physical addresses is really

>> saving grace. But all of that other

stuff is not good.

Bottom line, not good.

>> Did they say who?

>> Uh I'm I All I have done is read this

Techrunch article.

>> I don't mean what users. I mean what

business were they partnered with?

>> Doesn't say.

>> Yeah, that blows. MTA base. Kataw said

>> MTA base. I don't know what that is.

All your MTA base are belong to us. Open

source AI analytics you can verify.

Oh, metabase.

Oh, okay.

Oh, okay. Okay. That's less scary than

what that sounded like initially.

>> You thought it was Facebook?

>> No, no, no, no, no. I mean, um, sorry,

hold on. Let me go back. Like just a uh

What? What was that?

>> No free clout. They they leaked

everyone's stuff. This is like the

opposite of cloud. [laughter]

So, someone in chat said, "Oh, no free

cloud." I'm like, "What? We're not

speaking positively of them." [laughter]

This is like the reverse of an

advertisement.

>> Anyways, what

>> a company that provides business

intelligence.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Sounded really, really spooky.

>> That's why I wanted to figure out who it

was.

>> Um, analytics platform. They just jammed

AI into it for marketing. Yeah, of

course they did. Yeah. I mean, I even

noticed that kaleidoscope thing we were

talking about earlier

>> escape. But yes,

>> kaleidoscope thing. Um,

>> kaleidoscope is a totally different

thing.

>> No. Yeah, for sure. They they had um

they had they have some AI thing now. AI

movie recommendations.

Yeah, sure.

>> Why not? Um,

>> nice.

>> Because if the answer's going to be

wrong, it might as well be confident.

[laughter]

Um

uh yeah, so that blows. I don't even

know really why I thought to bring that

up, but just like

security is rough. Security tends to get

funded to a certain degree, but it's

hard to just keep pouring more and more

money into it. And I mean, this is a

this is a side topic.

>> We're not saying just stop locking your

doors cuz someone will break into it

anyway.

>> Yeah. No, not at all. But also there is

a degree to which the investment just

doesn't make sense to keep going

>> and that problem happens at basically

every company. So we are going to

constantly see these breaches. Um this

one seems pretty brutal. Physical

addresses is rough. Being able to tie

names to physical addresses is not cool.

Um but just do what you can. You know

separate password on all the different

websites etc etc. Parallelogram says, "I

leave my door unlocked so Santa can get

in easier."

>> That clearly would not have saved you in

this case. Um, but but do what you can,

>> but leaving your door open for Santa

wouldn't have saved you.

>> No, separate password. It wouldn't have

made a difference, but

>> All right, let's talk about Rockstar.

>> Yeah. What? Grand Theft Auto 6: An

Extended Look, will stream exclusively

on Netflix on August 27th before being

released, and this is the kicker,

[laughter]

on Rockstar's YouTube channel and

website,

6 hours later.

There are so many layers to unpack here,

Luke. I don't I I understand less now

than than [laughter] before you started

talking about it. Okay.

>> I thought it was going to be exclusive

at first and I was like ah maybe

>> for 6 hours.

>> I have no idea what money if any changed

hands.

But what I can tell you is that if there

was any media property that existed

in the entire world ever that could have

a 6-hour exclusive window that would

generate real meaningful FOMO, I cannot

miss this right now immediately.

Traffic,

it would be GTA 6. I think that Netflix

is going to be a huge winner for this.

So many ads had to load that it like

lagged the whole website out. But I am

now down at the comments. People are

definitely upset about this.

>> UH

I'M DOING 6 hours to do a to kind of

funny cuz it is 6 hours.

>> 6 hours.

>> It's a trailer like

>> Okay. The presentation is expected to

offer a closer look at GTA 6 than fans

have seen so far. Rockstar and Netflix

site will dive deeper into the game's

world, characters, and story ahead of

its November 19th launch. Naturally, GTA

fans have criticized the decision to

debut the extended look.

>> Yeah, seems dumb.

>> behind a Netflix subscription. It seems

wicked smart. People will buy Netflix

subscriptions in order to see this,

which

>> Well, not only that, too. You probably

have more people talking about the fact

that a trailer is coming than ever

before.

>> Can I Can I get out? Can I Can I for a

moment can I talk to you guys for a

second? Are you a GTA fan? Do you love

GTA? Okay. Don't buy a Netflix

subscription just to watch this.

>> Yeah, please.

>> You can speak with your wallet here. You

can just wait

>> realistically 6 minutes because that's

how long it's going to take for this to

be on every piracy site on the entire

earth there. Like don't don't do

anything crazy here. just appreciate a a

a a talented player playing the game and

don't participate in the game. Just be

like, you know what, good move. You got

they got us to talk about their stupid

trailer, so you know, game appreciate

game. Don't give them any money for it.

You don't have to. Okay? And you don't

even have to like the game, okay? You

can hate the game. And I don't mean the

game GTA. I mean them playing this

marketing game. You can hate that either

way. Just don't give them any money for

it. It's fine. Give them no money. Give

them no attention. And just watch it 6

hours later. Okay, that's it.

>> I I I just I love this. This is great.

Uh rocks after announcing [laughter]

announcement for an announcement and

then it just does the money printer

thing. Oh, so good. So good. So good. Um

>> love it.

>> Yeah. I Wow. Honestly,

I probably won't even watch this on the

day that it comes out.

>> And that's fine

>> cuz who cares?

>> Who cares? [laughter]

>> I don't know that I'll watch it at all

just in case it might have some spoiler

cuz I actually like the the GTA story

lines are usually pretty fun. I'm also

not going to play the game when it comes

out.

>> Are you not read the back of the book

guy? Uh, I'm not against it, but I

usually just don't like I don't actually

care too much about spoilers,

>> but I also don't feel a need to go out

of my way to find them, if that makes

sense.

>> Yeah. Okay.

>> Like, if I see a trailer, I'm like,

"Okay, cool." If I don't see a trailer,

it's also totally fine.

>> I I care like irrationally about

spoilers. Like, in the movie theater, I

will put on my AirPods, crank music, and

close my eyes until the preview.

>> Avoid the trailers.

>> Yeah. I I won't watch a trailer for a

film that I want to see. If it's just

like some crap slop thing that I don't

care about and I'm not going to watch,

then I'll I'll watch the trailer cuz

realistically it's probably got all the

best parts in it anyway and then I

really don't have to see it. Uh but if

it's something that I know I want to

watch, there's no way.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've had stuff spoiled

for me and I just didn't really care. I

think usually

>> it's not so much that I've had stuff

spoiled for me and I've cared so so so

much as that I've had experiences where

nothing was spoiled and it ended up

being so much more magical because of

it. So the best example I have is Thor

Ragnarok. Um I didn't know that Bruce

Banner the Hulk was in the film because

I hadn't even seen a poster.

>> Was it Was it Was he in the posters and

stuff?

>> Yeah, but I hadn't seen one.

>> Nice. That's cool. So, I managed to make

it all the way to the coliseum scene

>> going, "Who's going to come out? Who's

going to come out? Who's going to come

out?"

>> That seems like it might be a cool

moment.

>> And the film works you up to it for like

minutes, which feels so stupid. If you

knew who it was going to be, because if

I had even seen a poster, I would have

known.

But instead, I had no idea.

>> That's pretty sweet.

>> And Hulk comes out of there

[clears throat] and I'm like, "No way."

Blah blah. It's amazing. Tor said, "My

former spouse spoiled endgame for me."

And I I love that he included former.

[laughter]

>> Why did she tell you the good guys win?

>> I like

>> I like to imagine that's uh part of the

reason why. I think um I think the only

time I can really think of where a

spoiler like actually kind of pissed me

off was Hedwig Dies.

>> Do you remember that whole thing? And I

did hear about it before I read it and I

was like, "Bro, what?"

>> Yeah, that just sucks. It's so [snorts]

unnecessary cuz that's not even like

Dumbledore dies like like kind of,

>> you know, we knew it was coming.

>> Like that the old guard had to had to go

so that Harry could complete his arc.

Yeah,

>> that was just like

>> people yell in spoilers in chat

>> like uh you know the beloved bird which

is going to hit this man [laughter]

>> so hard a ton of bricks.

>> I didn't have birds yet.

>> He doesn't give a that the twins

die.

>> That doesn't matter to him.

>> Only one does.

>> Oh, one doesn't matter. The point is

that it's a meaningless human.

[laughter]

>> We're talking about a bird.

>> Animals in general. Yeah. A beautiful

white bird. An owl bird.

[laughter]

>> An owl.

>> The purest of creatures. An owl.

[laughter]

>> What are we talking about?

>> Birds that die.

>> Oh my god.

>> And avoiding them.

>> Fantastic birds and where to not kill

them. [laughter]

>> Fantastic birds and where to bury them.

>> Oh my god.

Hopefully all my chickens are alive

right now.

>> Spoiling movies while complaining about

spoilers. First of all, book and

>> second of all, that movie came out 10

years ago.

>> More than that, I think

>> the uh the one where Hedwig dies. No,

that might have been 10 years ago when

>> Oh my god, how long it was a lot more

than 10 years.

>> Was the first one 2001?

>> I think [laughter] I think we're a lot

closer to 20 years ago, dude. Not 10

years ago.

>> No, it was 10 years ago. Move on. Next

time, move on.

>> Uh when did

>> Don't Google it. Which one? Uh, which

one does Head uh which movie does Hedwig

die in?

>> Seventh. Deathly Hollows

>> part one. Okay. When did Deathly Hallows

part one come out? You on it?

>> Yeah.

>> Okay.

>> 2010.

>> Me

>> a lot clo not a lot closer but closer.

>> I'm closer without going over. Prices

right rules. I win.

>> Wait.

Yeah. Yes,

>> but that's Price's right rules, which is

dumb.

>> Them's fighting words.

>> That is dumb.

>> I think you've upset a lot of people

just now.

>> I think those people are fine to have

been upset.

>> I I don't think I I I think they're

justified. I think they're justified.

>> You didn't define the rules ahead of

time, which is why it's dumb.

>> It's always Price's right rules.

>> Nope.

>> Dan, back me up on this.

>> Linus is right.

>> No. No.

>> I'm the closest without going over.

You're the one that SAID THE RULES ARE

DUMB.

>> IT ROUNDS UP.

>> I'M GOING TO I'M going to leave, man.

>> But I I'll round up 16 years. I told you

not to Google it and you didn't listen

to me.

>> SO YOU'RE JUST UPSET ABOUT

>> SO NOW EVERYONE'S UPSET. [laughter]

WAY TO GO, DUDE.

[gasps]

>> WOW. This has really divided the

community. [laughter]

>> Headwig's dead and Lionus was right.

Friday's ruined. [laughter]

All right, I think it's time for us to

explain comms. Guys, if you are new to

the WAN show,

>> welcome.

>> Hey, thanks for watching the WAN show.

>> Yeah,

>> here on the WAN show, we don't do like

uh super chats or Twitch bits or any of

the kind of I'mma throw my money at the

screen and then I'm going to wait

eagerly to see if senpai will notice me.

Uh, we believe instead that if you're

going to throw money at your screen, you

should get high quality merchandise in

return. So, we created what we call

comms or checkout messages. All you got

to do to send one is head on over to

ltstore.com. Oh, look at that. We're

doing a notification list for the

nuclear LTD ratcheting screwdriver. It's

a cool new colorway, UV reactive.

Anyway, the point is, uh, all you got to

do is head over to ltstore.com. Uh, find

one of our wonderful products like the

percussive maintenance technician

t-shirt. Head on over to your cart and

when we're live, you will see the

checkout message interface. You can be

anonymous or you can show your name and

last initial and you can leave a little

message

and go ahead and place your order. It

will go to producer Dan who will either

just pop it up like that, a little

something like that or who there it is.

or who will reply to it himself or he

might curate your message for me and

Luke to respond to. Um, Dan, do you want

to show the folks what curated messages

look like or No, wait. No, I'm going to

do the I'm going to do the CW

announcements first so they know what

kind of cool things they're supposed to

be ordering. Uh, this Oh, yeah. Look, we

have one right here. Uh, is our limited

edition nuclear LTT ratcheting

screwdriver.

Oh, look at it go. This is celebrating a

pretty big milestone for us. Our newly

approved US patent.

>> Heck yeah.

>> What? That's exciting.

>> Sorry. No, I was there's a weird problem

with my computer, but I solved it. So,

yeah.

>> Yeah. We we co-owned the patent for this

ratchet with MegaPro.

>> Oh, cool.

>> Um, which is finally formal

acknowledgement that no, we did not in

fact rebrand MegaPro's product. We

worked with them, including on very real

patentable engineering, to make a better

freaking ratchet that people, hundreds

of thousands of people are enjoying

right now. It's a pretty freaking

awesome product. And now it glows under

UV light. UV light not included. Uh,

insider tip, by the way. If you sign up

at lmg.gg/nuclear

signup, that is nuclear, not nuclear,

you can get 10% off instantly or you can

save your discount for when the nuclear

screwdriver launches. you'll also be the

first to know when it drops. Uh, and if

you're looking for a deal right now and

you don't necessarily need the new

nuclear colorway, the mystery

screwdriver is $20 off this weekend

only. So, right now is a great time to

grab a mystery screwdriver. On the US

store, that's $49.99.

And on the global store, that is $69.99.

Nice. Uh, Canadian dollars, which is

actually a pretty pretty good deal. This

is perfect if you've been wanting an LT

screwdriver and you don't mind a little

bit of mystery in exchange for a great

deal. The pricing ends Monday at 9:00

a.m. I assume that's Pacific time. So,

oh, oh, look at that. And order any

ratcheting screwdriver and get free

screwdriver grip tape when both are

added to the cart. So, those are great

when you're using gloves.

>> Yeah. So, we've gotten a lot of feedback

from technicians who use gloves,

especially like aircraft folks,

automotive folks, um that they can find

the the smooth outer body a little bit

smooth with gloves

>> and and especially if you get some oils

going on

>> and like a canvas glove. Uh so, the grip

tape is like it's like a skateboard grip

tape. It's very grippy. Um and it's now

included free with your order of a

mystery screwdriver. So, great time to

go check that out. Dan, do you want to

show us a couple of coms that you cured?

>> Yeah, I've got a few here. Howdy, DLL.

With the RAM cartel staying for a while,

>> forever.

>> Do you think Framework or Valve plus

other OEMs should form a co-op or buyer

consortium or invest in fab memory and

open CXLPCM2?

Saving for socks.

>> Um,

they're welcome to try. I don't Yeah, I

don't think it's

>> it's uh no amount of

So, okay, it's all about leverage. Okay,

let's talk about leverage.

If Framework and Valve and let's say a

real player like Dell, okay, all got

together and went, "We're not going to

buy your memory, Micron, unless you give

us a better price." Do you know what

Micron would say?

That's nice. Go yourself. I'll sell

it to someone else. Because right now,

those companies have absolutely

>> way too many buyers.

>> No leverage. They have zero leverage

against quite literally all of the DRAM

players who have all of the leverage.

Making matters even more complicated. in

a situation where there is limited

supply, an alliance like the

aforementioned idea with framework valve

and Dell and you know whoever um

wouldn't last very long because the

second that Micron came back and said

hey Dell

you're not really that good friends with

these guys are you? I mean, these

framework guys, they're trying to make

you look bad. They're making their

laptops all upgradable and you don't

want any part of that. You want people

to buy a whole new XPS every time they

get a new laptop. Tell you what, you

just drop your friendship with them. You

unfriend them on Facebook. Make me your

new friend and uh I have all the

leverage, so you're just going to pay

the normal price, but I'll give you some

supply. That way, you'll have some

laptops to sell this quarter. Your

shareholders like that, right? when you

have laptops to sell. Cool. Cool. Cool.

That's how it works. And you can not

like it. You can be mad about it. Super

legit. Be mad about it, but it's not

going to change anything. So, um, you

know, I like the I always like the idea

of like little guys banding together. In

fact, our prime minister likes the idea

of, you know, middle powers banding

together for more leverage. But it only

works in situations where those middle

powers can increase each other's

strength by working together and trading

with each other. In a case like this

where we're suggesting that competitors

like direct competitors band together to

gain leverage against a much more

powerful entity

>> which can happen and does happen

>> isn't going to happen right now.

>> Not going to happen right now. Not in

this arena.

>> Yep.

But but is absolutely a thing because

there are there are people that will not

join that group which are going to buy

way dramatically more memory than the

people that you just mentioned.

>> And right now it's it's less even about

the price you're paying for it and it's

more about having product to sell at

all. Like that's why that's why the

contract prices are getting bid up

because if you're Dell, it is not an

option to get on your quarterly investor

call and say, "Well, there was no

memory, so I guess we didn't sell any

laptops."

[laughter]

Imagine it. So, they just have to buy

it.

All right. Yeah. Do you have a Do you

have a better news one, Dan?

Yes.

>> Nice. Solid.

>> Uh, well, that one isn't, but this one.

Uh, hello, Lenu Danu. I'm loving my

socks and I'm happy to be picking up

more. I do construction and they've been

excellent. Any plans for similar

products like wrist warmers or

fingerless gloves?

>> Wrist warmers.

>> I've never heard of wrist warmers.

>> I have never heard of wrist warmers.

>> What's a wrist warmer? We do shell sell

uh jackets.

>> That warms too many things.

>> Yeah,

>> we could cut the arms off.

>> Is it just as like a sweatb band?

>> I think I think [clears throat] so.

>> What's Is that a I mean, we did do those

once.

>> We did.

>> I still have at least one of them.