very soon you will be in the ice birth

with me but I don't like the cold that's

cool yeah oh gosh stay with your breath

wh hop has defied logic time and time

again he's able to withstand extreme

cold and even ran to the top of Everest

in his underwear he's proven we're all

capable of pushing our minds and bodies

way past what was thought possible they

call me the ice man what is the purpose

of living happiness strength and health

you're rest is [ __ ] but this Society

is sick and we cannot deal with stress

it drains us but if we listen to our

body we can change that through science

so what is the first step breathing

exercises it's about handling our

emotion and feel that we are on top of

it no matter what but we have never

learned in our schooling how to do it

next through the power of the mind we

learn to make our bad feelings disease

go away you were injected with eoli you

had no negative immune response you took

volunteers train them on your techniques

and when they were injected their

responses were similar to your own it's

all possible how do you do that first we

have

to whim was there ever a time where the

pain was even too much for you my wife

took her own

life

and that led to depression and I was not

able to do do

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episode whm yes what is your

mission my mission is to bring uh love

and power very simple but then through

signs so there is no speculation about

it they in all the songs you hear love

is the greatest power and all that you

know but we should be able to feel it

and because we could not feel that

anymore to be uh uh too consumed through

consumerism

through uh everyday very hectic

stressful lives we get confused in it

all we are depleted in our energy our

energy is being drained through a system

that is an inally being divided in its

wealth and therefore people are not able

uh to use their energy to bring up uh

the the right values back in the family

which is patience which is empathy

creativity uh

love composed by happiness strength and

health so because there is confusion in

that area that's why uh I I thought hey

I'm going to start somewhere here and

now I'm going to change the world and I

see the wars I see unhappiness I see

depression I see pollution I see abuse I

see uh all that and people think that is

normal and we have to abide to those uh

realities and I think no it's sick and

what I'm going to do about it I'm I'm

going to start looking searching inside

because I I I think every uh mother in

the world should be able to bring

happiness strength and health to their

children and keep it there so that's my

mission to bring it and because nobody's

listening to a person like me saying

that from the roof we got love is the

power and all that that's why I go

through science but first I went into

the

cold and the cold I met because

intuitively I felt hey the cold is able

to bring down my thinking what is it

about the nature of society when you

look out on Society at the moment that

makes you sad or concerned what is it

about the way we live way we've built

this thing called Society so a society

is a very

complex uh uh

opportunistic

uh way uh through time nobody is able to

trace down where the problems are how it

has been Arisen it's too complex too

confused now and there I I I say hey

okay this look at The Establishment is

this perfect is this paradise Noh is

nothing wrong with our knowledge

understanding and intelligence but the

way we use it we have to change our

Consciousness and our Consciousness is

our way to perceive perceive is what we

see and what we are able to deal with

and we cannot deal with the stress

coming in our lives it consumes us it

drains us and there we are and and look

what we can do we can go to the Moon we

can go to Mars we can build Bridges we

can make create AI all those things but

we cannot create happiness strength and

health we got to reset so let's

stop massively in the world and Elevate

our Consciousness to being good to each

other not to be competitive if I if I'm

an individual listening to this and I

follow your methods what can you promise

me will be the outcome on my daytoday

life a lot more energy that's number one

two you will feel just

aive what is the purpose of living it's

life to love life as it is pure no

thoughts no confusion it's not there

just feel alive when you uh rise from

the bed you feel

okay this is a new

day what I'm going to do I'm going to

change the world today because I feel so

good and even though I'm not fully on

right now I know it's coming and I want

it I want it so much and you know what

it's called

purpose and that purpose I'm I'm living

it and that purpose is stronger than my

thinking and this Society is not driven

to fulfill each and everyone's purpose

it's to uh have the the the society

maintained the system maintained

controlled by a a couple of people all

the energy for what where is the

happiness where is the strength where is

the health every day when I live my

purpose and and I want to change the

world I want to bring love and power and

I'm doing

with mathematical Precision with the

mission impossible things they I found

which I tested in uh scientific uh

comparative studies showing that

suddenly we have so much more control

instead of being controlled by the

system oppressing our purpose Our Lives

energy and to connect with that purpose

it's like love when you feel love for

your woman for your love your sex this

this you you don't think that is that

power and that power you should be able

to live and to feel for life itself

every day but we are blocked too much

going into the cold brings you out of

this thinking

brain it brings you directly into the

deepest part of the brain because you

are doing it going into the called then

it it needs to be switched on the

deepest part of the brain survival part

the brain stem and uh to battle the

danger of the cold but it's there once

it's there and you are doing it you are

connecting is that pardon what you're

saying that the way that we live our

lives is a little bit too comfortable so

we're not reaching those sort of deeper

levels of our of our brain we're kind of

and we are optimizing discomfort out of

our lives in every chance we get

you from every you know I got here today

in a nice warm car I arrived in a nice

warm building I had a nice warm shower

oh very soon you will be in the ice bath

with

me it's it's going to be nice you know

it's going to be nice but that that that

the the difference is we choose if we go

to the cult and the cold will not come

to us we tackle the problem before it

arises within us with the cult which is

a very uh negative aggressive power

inflicted upon our bodies it's an impact

when you say if we go to the cold before

the cold comes to us is that a metaphor

for life are you yes okay you mean we go

we put ourselves in discomfort and if we

don't then our lives will be met with

discomfort in other way yes and then we

are not prepared yeah right and that

and a lot of people are maybe okay with

this in this system but uh so many more

people are not okay with this and for

those we stand up we who have the wealth

of being and feeling okay great that's

wealth we should be able to stand up for

those who cannot whim when did this

start when did this start for you

because a lot of people that I meet on

this show you know their early Journeys

or the sort of pivotal moments in their

lives can be traced back to maybe when

they were 12 or 13 but your journey

starts even earlier the first Domino

that fell seems to fall when your mother

was giving birth to you oh yes

subconsciously it started at my birth my

mother told me I'm one of the twins

unexpected back then we had no Echo

graphics and all these tools so they

didn't know that there was another twin

baby there exactly and so I was almost

uh born too late they discovered me

almost too late

and uh so I came out while they were

pushing uh the bat with my mother to the

operation room in the in in the hallway

like purple because almost suffocated

coming out in the cold of the hall very

traumatized it started over there it

started with a trauma and I let me tell

you I was I became a Seeker because of

that trauma people become Seekers if

they have deep trauma

they always will seek uh compensation

always try to seek relief in one way or

in another not directly to the trauma

but indirectly bypassing and they don't

know it influences directly deeply your

behavior in life just want to make sure

I'm super clear on this your mother had

two identical twin boys and the doctor's

own only knew that one baby was there so

when they finished delivering um your

brother your identical twin brother they

were moving on with the procedure and

then at the last minute while they were

in the hallway they discovered there was

another baby in there and that other

baby yourself was at risk and from that

whole sort of traumatic experience you

feel that that sort of embodied a trauma

which you've which turned you into a

Seeker looking for answers on the

universe rejecting the conventional

thinking and that takes us all the way

through this sort of um very curious

childhood up to the point you describe

at 17 years old where you're stood in

Amsterdam by a very very cold lake and

you feel cold to jump into that Lake yes

yes uh cold and C there are no words to

describe it because you are led by

intuition you are led by a way the the

body is able to solve whatever is inside

because you cannot relate by thinking

what is going on because I was a baby

back then but it always blocked me it

made me a seeker and uh at that moment

when I went in I just follow to

intuition it's a feeling and there I

felt this is it this is it what I've

always been trying to find as a Seeker

my intuition had led me to ER uh go into

that water to meet my trauma and that is

activating a

innate capacity of ours to deal and to

process whatever is going on in the

deepest of the brain in the deepest

thought up uh tissue where is trauma uh

present which we haven't learned how to

access that first time you got in the

cold

water yeah did you react like I react

when I get in the cold water now did you

were you h no absolutely not I was

surprising and you will go with me later

and you will not go the way you just

expressed okay we will go like you will

smile beautifully like you do right now

yeah and go with me in there is a moment

that you will feel a little bit

of but I'm there we are there you're my

brother you you I'm your uncle I'm your

family I want you to feel good I I want

you I I I I'm here to make you strong

strong strong it it it means to stay in

the eye of the hurricane when it is when

the stress is most when you first got

into the cold water you said it seemed

to answer a lot of your spiritual

questions yeah oh yeah all what what

spiritual questions did getting in the

Cold War to that first time answer all

what all what has been propagated by all

the religions all the Asic disciplines

and doctrines that Nirvana and

Enlightenment key

pra uh whatever they call it uh in name

uh that that is just our

mind let's feel strong let's be strong

let's be healthy let's be happy just

unconditionally that's what I felt at

that moment this is it and it was not

words that came to me it was a pure

opening of my feeling being un corrupted

by

thinking for many many years you lived

as a squatter was it from 17 to sort of

20 sort of mid 20s that you lived as a

squatter 0s you were you best time of my

life having no money whatsoever I was in

society living outside of society

outside I had no money I lived off the

scraps of the uh the

marketplace and I loved it was a party

time was Feast every day with all these

other people who are free thinkers do

don't think a time have a have a

sabatical a a a sabatical of this way

the system maintains itself through

Paradigm through a certain way of

thinking if you just leave it at time

you start to think uh thoughts and

emotions are able to emerge without

without this helmet on this heavy helmet

which is interrupting your flow your

being your expression and then you you

cannot trust that expression you are

lost you're getting lost of who who you

are there I was able to

freethink without even thinking about it

I played the guitar and the

hallways

uh I did yoga all these postes in the in

the courtyards

naked

and in the winter time I became so

strong if you only let the life force

Express itself you become so strong what

is the life force for anybody that

doesn't know anybody has it yeah like

here and right now if I like I was

talking be before we entered into this

podcast 76 years old this man was and he

was suffering uffing from Li limes

disease and he wanted to climb to

kilamanjaro in record time without

having any experience in in climbing 76

years old limes disease suffering with

that condition doing a mountain which

normally is done between five and nine

days fully dressed because up there at

6,000 m is really cold and there is less

than half the oxygen so the cold comes

even harder in and there I saw life

force uh his life force was so

determined to climb with me an

impossible physiologically impossible

task because normally between 5 to n

days he did it a 31 hours 76 years old

what what else is that than a life force

you never expected it to be just to take

on the challenge he had a deeper feeling

within himself I don't know what I got

to do but this guy is saying he wants to

climb to Kilimanjaro past the

physiological limits according to

science and it I feel I feel something

that is your life force talking to you

which wants to free itself he was

suffering from limes disease he was in a

system always abiding to everything and

suddenly with an autoimmune disorder he

could not control at all

and and there he was so he he felt the

same thing as I felt when I was 17 going

into the CT he came with me and he

climbed to kilaru in 31 hours not 5 to n

days 31 hours

so that is the life force our life force

is capable of so much more than we are

used to why don't we know that why don't

we believe that why don't we live our

lives with the you know the the opinion

that we can climb the mountain sure

because we are let to believe we have to

serve into systems that are not

necessarily serving our

soul and they so massively

psychologically overwhelming the system

the schooling system Etc it's so

overwhelming that we have no way to

escape from this narrowing Consciousness

where we got in we think careers make us

happy cars make us happy money makes us

happy Fame and name and all makes us

happy I was the happiest guy when I was

in the squat having nothing you were you

were effectively homeless living just

outside yeah yeah yeah a squat is a

place where you have a uh you have

electricity and that's it and you got to

pay for the the heater so you had to

find find ways to uh uh pay say um what

is it £70 a month and you were living

with lots of people in yeah when when

you were squatting yeah wow was an

amazing I mean we don't need so much but

it has been propagated that we need a

house everybody needs a

mortgage and you got to serve that

mortgage you got to go to 9 to5 and we

become slaves and slaves of a system

that is

in the end creating quite some stress

and we are only able to survive not to

express ourselves creatively as who we

are and what we are for real what's a

realistic alternative whim I lived in

that Society first I lived outside

through living in a squat that was

enough for me to have my own identity

connected in my thinking my mind and uh

then I went into society it was a

horrible time time because suddenly I

had to live in a flat with the kids and

my wife deteriorated mentally and she

took her own life in 95 and she jumped

from eight stories down that that that

was

the the life I was in and the and

Society just go keeps on going like a

train it it has no emotion it has no

feeling wh on that you're 22 years old

you're you fall in love yes with a woman

you describe as the love of your life oh

that's her yes o oh look at

this oh yeah

sweetheart amazing Soul very expressive

very talkative to everybody very open

and uh and then into the shadows of her

own mind and dysfunctioning of brain

functioning and uh that led to uh her

depression and then becoming Manic and

then

schizophrenia then uh worse got worse

and worse and worse we were 15 years

together you met her in that squat house

in the squat house yes yeah amazing yeah

so innocent all very innocent and uh uh

I called her a butterfly Mariposa in

Spanish and uh butterfly because she was

everywhere a very light

being did I fell in love or Rose in love

I think the last

one only the the way her mind got

Disturbed through this yeah is it

Society is it the pressure is it a

career is it what is it a demand because

this was a light a being of light you

you met her in that squatter house you

had two children together yes in the

squat and perfectly okay and great and

great we yeah beautiful the those

children are right now working with me

we got an international worldwide

company yeah when did you realize that

her mental health was

deteriorating yeah probably too late uh

uh uh it was a a a a decreasing kind of

uh uh process in her where she was

losing the control and uh uh I had no

real means to take care of that she went

back uh to uh pmon she was Spanish from

origin and uh she was there with her

family she would have been for months on

end with her family and then come back

and being mother for two days

and then suddenly collapse and being bad

and being very down again and uh yeah

like a burden burdensome but we loved

her of

course we are trying to

survive where and uh only after the uh

the fourth child you wanted another CH

but I said no you have to become better

you have to become healthy and and she

said to you you are a bastard that was

one month before she took her own life

see uh she kissed her I was working as a

mountain guide in the Pines to get some

money and I also loved it I love nature

but then uh uh yeah she kissed her uh

the kids could

bu before uh jumping down or letting go

from 8

uh story she jumped off an eighth story

building yes I mean it almost takes a

lot of courage to do that too you must

be very Des desperate if you do a thing

like that and that is something un

overcomable the part of me when I was 12

the world is sick depressed the darkness

the wars the pollution Etc all that I'm

going to do something about it at that

moment I could not I was not able to do

anything so it it turned into a defeat

it turned into being me hopeless it

turned me into being depressed but I had

no time to be depressed I had to take

care of four

children on your own on my own with

almost no

money so uh that's that's a actually

where the cult came in not like a

negative power power it the cold is

stronger than your mind it than your

thinking it makes you the depth of your

brain at work and the depth of your

brain is the place the pharmacy it's the

pharmacy the Healer of our uh being

which we disconnected from so much

because we go we go for pills medicines

or go to doctor if something happens to

us we don't go to ourselves I can't

imagine the pain I can't imagine the

pain of you know having the love of my

life um a deteriorate um have four kids

with me but then take her own

life

grief oh yes the grief had no space yes

the agonizing thinking all day long has

its way to uh to burden a person a me

and uh uh uh yeah the only way to break

that was going into uh icy

water uh that was yeah I mean at that

moment you're just

surviving and that gives you a little

little opening of this agonizing

thinking this it's painful it's a a and

at that moment you are so overwhelmed by

all that that you

now I can talk about it but back then I

was in the middle of it do you remember

where you were where you were when you

got that phone

call yes

uh exactly and U I was doing groups of

people uh in the in the mountains so

back then you had these phone booths

yeah in on the camping on the camping

where we uh slept and uh with the group

and uh there I got uh this phone call uh

the of her brother calling me and uh

yeah so it is uh not only shocking you

don't know what to

say you cannot even

cry the grief comes later the thinking

about it the being able to contemplate

about it and have feelings about it

comes only later I cried when I was with

her

father with with her father over her

dead body then we cried together that

then you can relate You Can Let Go it

happens you're not thinking about it it

happens so that's the way

it evolves and then but in the back of

my head was was of course my four

children it took a burden on us it took

a burden on an

inexplicable burden

it changed us it traumatized Us in the

depth and that made us uh separate at a

certain

moment later on in life now we are all

together and it's amazing the chemistry

is better than ever before and uh she

her the mother she is like in a an angel

now she's looking over our shoulders and

we talk about it we say she yeah she

that it is going so well with us is

because she is that back she she is with

us we feel it when you had that

conversation with your four children

that their mother was gone they were

between seven and 12 years old yes how

how do how do you have a conversation

with a seven-year-old or or a 12year old

about their mother not being here

anymore exactly that that way I said she

is she is

gone her body is gone she she I didn't

say she was

dead she is not no longer with us that's

what I

said and they got it we are here we are

together we're going to we're going to

find life with us mommy is gone yet also

she is

here and

worked it worked I mean we went on did

they ask

questions of course of course many

questions but uh the end uh the the the

questions uh were not as strong as our

being

during in life being together uh it's

there where I found the cold to give me

all the energy to create a good

atmosphere to at home the nest

warmth

playfulness being there light not

heavy what is that first step to because

there's so many people that are going

through different forms of grief or they

have that trauma that you've describe

that goes back a long way if they're

listening to this now and they've

stumbled this far into the conversation

and they're thinking I'm so far away

from that whim I'm So Far Away I've got

my shirt and tie on I've got I'm in the

city I I know I'm unhappy I can feel it

in my bones but I know no other way what

is the first step absolutely the

breathing

exercises these breathing exercises in

2014 were capable to show just like

scientifically uh hormonally uh looking

at the nervous system the depth

uh which we entered with these breathing

exercises in this comparative study

showed that we were able to tap into the

autonomic nervous system and innate

immune system which was considered to be

impossible in signs and now it is there

it's not only the autonomic nervous

system and the innate immune system it's

also the ability naturally to solve what

is deeply

stored up in our tissue which could not

be processed in the moment when it

happened trauma whim I've got some of

those studies in front of me I read

through all of them um ahead of our

conversation and they are quite frankly

um remarkable they're quite frankly

remarkable they are uh peer-reviewed

studies that have been published um went

through very sort of scientifically

rigorous processes to make sure that

they were valid and in these studies we

see breakthroughs that I think the past

people thought were impossible but if we

just focus in then on that breathing

because you you described that as the

first step if I have never breathed in

my life I've never done it I've never

heard about it I'm a I'm skeptical to it

I think breathing is just something we

don't think about

um what do you mean by breathing and

what kind of breathing and can you

explain to me like I'm an idiot what

it's doing

yeah what it is doing for example I'm uh

now busy with cardiologists and they saw

in heart films that if you stop

breathing after exhalation for one and a

half minute five times more blood flows

into the brain and to the heart this

what has never been shown and now it has

been shown through these breathing

techniques I mean this really goes so

deep we are able to make uh these uh

through these breathing techniques uh

change our blood's chemistry uh bring up

the pH levels way up by which the

breathing trigger is not happening

because it's depending on the CO2 level

in our blood if we breathe

like 30 times like this you become a

little bit woie a little bit dizzy why

because the CO2 levels go way

down you blow it off carbon dioxide have

we forgotten how to to breathe like that

is that is oh yes is that the natural

way of breathing no not exactly okay

what what what is exactly is that we uh

have forgotten to feel Deep

Emotions uh to be uh in connection with

danger danger is a deep

emotion or the

cold it's it's deep we avoid these

emotions but they are we are built to

receive it to express it and uh with

that comes alive the deeper mechanisms

in our body and be if that longterm is

not exercise

those deeper mechanisms and among that

is not only the emotion it's also the

immune system it becomes weaker we

become more

flid we become insensitive look at the

insensitivity in our society Gaza is

happening yeah protest is we should stop

that [ __ ] we should stop those Wars cuz

kids little kids are here jeopardized

and we cannot even feel it anymore you

know that this insensitivity in US is a

is a plague is a plague because we serve

a system that runs well on people being

obedient and being flaccid not really

sensitive because if you are really

sensitive you don't go to a to a slave

job every every day and come back

stressed and the other day you do it

again and again again again what we

should do within our eles is learning

how to connect into the depth and this

is what I give through the C we bring

these deeper emotions alive and then you

will not abide to that what makes you

weak to that what kills your purpose we

got to stand up as humanity and more

more now than ever and here we are and

uh whim how do you do that very simple

do this breathing techniques do it on

your

bed on a sofa or very controlled because

you will go past your conditioned mind

and body the the shallow breathing we do

we say that is breathing that's not

breathing that is automatic reflex of

your body doing

something and there it is now you take

over consciously you start to breathe

deeper you go past these

patterns depicted by a conditioned body

and that conditioning is only serving

the system but not necessarily you I

want you to take over the steer wheel I

want you to be conscious and then go

with that conscious into deeper

breathing break the patterns of your

conditioning and suddenly uh your uh

deeper traumas your deeper feelings are

able to come to the surface is being

stored up being stashed away forever and

and that is what is happening in the

first session we

do I I can promise any any person uh who

is doing it will encounter a such a

tremendous experience of himself from

the depth coming to the surface and

that's only the depth coming to the

servant that's all and it's beautiful

I'm so intrigued as to as to how that

happens so CU I've had lots of friends

that

are very um focused on breathing using

your techniques obviously I told you

before we started recording my partner

runs a breath work studio called barley

breath work where she has committed her

life to using the breath to heal people

but I I'd like someone to explain to me

you know how if I take hold of the

steering wheel and I go past those sort

of unconscious breathing um

patterns why does that unlock trauma

because when I go to my when I um have

been to my partner's breath work

sessions when they end people are

talking about very deep forms of trauma

that they've suddenly encountered and

I'm wondering how is the breath doing

that how is the breath unlocking that

stuff what is where is it hidden you

know I don't understand the breaths

connection to our trauma so traumas are

a stored Up chemistry it's unprocessed

it's when a experience happens and you

cannot deal with it you can't process it

you don't understand it's being stashed

away and it becomes biochemical stored

up

uh stored up capacity of the body is

simply there in our deeper tissue but

our conditioned mind and body is not

able to get into that depth just by

thinking yes but that we are thinking

too much and uh we know something is

wrong inside but we cannot connect with

that now if we change the patterns we

normally go into with our breathing and

thinking which goes paed which controls

our

heart it's conditioning H if we are into

that conditioning and we start simply

and that makes it so beautiful that it

is so simple and uh H how it uh uh then

uh suddenly is able to get into this Tau

to regulate our mood in the depth is by

a cab cannaboid receptors the last study

we did is a landmark study Landmark

study done by Professor DBU divar in

Detroit and it shows that the

cannabinoid

receptors are a part of the Salient

Network the Salient network is that what

makes all the networks in the brain work

together and uh with that we get a hold

of H areas we normally don't have

connection to so what the breathing does

in the depth is activating the

connectors in the body called

cannabinoid receptors by which uh deeper

uh realities of our uh physiology uh

open up and that is a natural thing to

happen when we are in peace no longer in

the trauma in the accident no now we are

in peace now we should be able to work

out what has been stored up that is a

natural capacity of ours to do that but

we have never learned in our society in

our schooling how to do it and not even

in Psychiatry they give you pills and

they give you medicines that's makes a

lot of money but it doesn't solve the

problem people become catatonic people

become my wife too after treatment in

Psychiatry the first wife she became her

eyes like like a zombie yeah a zombie

this is a blasphemy this is scandalous

in Psychiatry that they keep on doing

that now I get a lot of

psychiatrists uh a cognitive

psychologists about cognitive therapist

and they say when the cognitive

therapies have no solution anymore we do

breathing and it it just brings solution

so it is simple so effective but it

doesn't make

money it it makes people

understand I feel so much better how is

that

possible and that that's simply that how

it works

we just did The Landmark study with the

compelling findings that we actually

found

interception interceptive Focus suddenly

being able to regulate our mood emotion

much better so we are able to listen if

we listen to our body and we feel bad we

can change that we uh we found now the

key how to do that first of all you do

the breathing

called of course called training not too

much never too much just

relax we are very capable to even take

like Patrice Eva who was completely

hating it because of his when he was

young he got it as a punishment you have

to take it nice and good and open up to

the Natural capacity to take it on he

will was the best absolute best taken on

icy water for 16 minutes he was in and

he wanted to stay there in and BBC was

like oh no this is too dangerous please

come out yeah yeah you have no you have

to come out patri okay okay and he was

just walking out and you know what I

felt his skin he was not even called so

just for context is that power that's

that power it's so simple for people

that don't know Patrice is a good friend

of mine Patrice ever he's been on this

podcast before and um he he told me that

whims techniques had really changed his

life especially his relationship with

cold water he was like me he told

himself that because of his I don't know

his race where he came from his DNA he

wasn't able to spend time in cold water

but I think what he discovered through

whim was that that was actually a trauma

because when he was younger his father

used cold water as a punishment so he

had this trauma with cold water and

after doing your uh program and spending

time with you he was the very very best

at staying in cold water and when I was

with him recently was amazing he he

jumped in that cold water without

flinching you know and he told me that

throughout his entire Manchester United

playing career he was always the one

that never got into the um the the cold

recovery plunge pools at Manchester

United after the game he always avoided

it and he just wishes he wishes that he

knew what he knows now about the power

of cold water because then he would have

been able to recover better as a as a

player that's that's what he told me I

have the I have the study here in front

of me that you described there I think

it's the um the Michigan brain over body

study that was the first study and then

came a second

study uh the first study I was compared

to

74 test subjects per people and they

were all going into the uh having a a

profusion vest what is been used in when

firefighters go into the work they have

a cold water going through a perfusion

vest full of tubes so it's a vest where

they pump cold water yes okay so they

are able to endure the heat of the fire

better okay to fight the fire so they

took that into uh body scans fmri scans

and uh pump cold water into these vests

while the people were

Motionless In These

FM and so every time when the cold water

was pumped in uh the body's uh uh skin

temperature would go

down and uh and then warmed up

again a skin temperature going up and

that correlates in the brain with

stress and uh uh uh and those stress

mechanisms then when the cold is being

pumped in is very clearly seen on the

monitor of these people who connected

the people with

electrodes you could see it on the

monitor the way the brain was being

activated oh these are the stress

mechanisms and now is the warmth oh now

is the uh the areas of well-being of the

brain H activated insula and the and the

and the per aqueductal

gray whatever the names I I call it a

the the positive and the negative

registration of uh of stress and or

well-being yeah those parts and they

nobody could change that what if we

could make the feeling well part of the

brain at work when the stress comes in

so what if we could feel choose to feel

good when stress comes ah this was never

been shown in psychiatry

so they had this

experimental uh

module there and then uh nobody could

make a different brain scan possible

when stress comes in through the cold

being pumped in to the skin then stress

part of the brain is activated nobody

could make that not go uh activated not

go

away and I could I didn't feel the cult

when it came in because I warmed up my

body willfully nobody believed that was

possible um until until you did it I

want to just recount that the first

study which was done and published in

2018 it was carried out at Wayne State

University in Michigan and scientists

looked at the way that the body and the

Brain reacted to changes in temperature

whenever anyone feels the cold um they

typically have a auto automatic bodily

response um but also you can see that

that response in the brain the narrowing

of blood vessels to protect organs uh

increased energy and and pain signals so

to test whether you could control that

um those responses to the cold

scientists created a full body suit in

which they would pump cold or warm water

into your into your body on normal test

subjects their skin temperature would

rise and fall with the change in water

temperature which is what you'd expect

when whim underwent the experiment

without his breathing techniques his

skin temperature changes were very

similar to the normal people however

when he used the breathing and

meditation techniques he kept a

sustained skin temperature of 34° over

25 minutes which was never thought to be

humanly possible when he was put in a

pet scan to see what was happening

inside his body scientists saw that the

intercostal muscles which is the muscles

between your ribs were burning a lot of

glucose and releasing heat into your

body which was keeping your body warm

when looking at whims brain scientists

saw that it didn't have the same

unconscious reaction to the cold as

normal people's brains did his breathing

technique engaged the sympathetic

nervous system releasing adrenaline and

triggered the area of the brain stem

which is that um area you describing

before aqueductal gry hemisphere that

perceives pain the triggering of the

brain stem released cannaboids and

opioids and these chemicals gave a sense

of well-being and reduced anxiety and

this study showed that whim had control

over the autonomous nervous um

autonomous systems of the brain and the

brain's automatic responses to the cold

the results of this study have been uh

tremendous and they have proven the

massive potential implications for the

IM immune system disorders like diabetes

Ms and arthritis in Psychiatry so it the

TDR of that is the study really proved

that the stress we encounter throughout

our lives we do have control over it we

have control over the impact it has on

our physiological

systems but also you know our brain and

how we experience it because you were

able to not experience cold yes the pain

of cold the stress of c and it was not

about the cold it was about how to deal

with stress stress can come in many ways

emotionally physically spiritually it

can come in many ways in the end it is

biochemical stress it it turns into

biochemistry neurotoxins Etc it

accumulates it gets in the body

creates blockages it it drains and you

don't know what to do with it and and

then medicines come in and pills and it

only deteriorates it it gets worse and

and that besides of the side effects

thing is I used the cult back when I was

with my wife who died to get my

emotional Agony out of the

way and uh it was the doorway to open up

my healing my spiritual healing of me as

a puppy of my children just to be happy

with them and to provide energy and

well-being without this

traumatizing Darkness around us so I

found it through the cult yet it is not

about the cold it's about that I

regained Mastery over my to bring back

my emotion

uninterrupted cuz we should be able to

guide our emotional state of being

anytime when we feel bad naturally

naturally and that that that is what

this shows and now upon this study they

did another study and then they saw even

without me now people can do

this and that's what I wanted that is

the study Landmark study being done last

January published so that's TW 24 and uh

six years past the covid and all H and

now they see compelling evidence to keep

on and to make these studies much bigger

because their potential is that we found

to key called intercep

interception to be so strong

that we are able to control our

emotional

well-being throughout whatever stress

there is but it's not just our emotional

well-being it's also our immune system

of course that goes also with it I isn't

a a healthy person a happy person kind

of you know isn't it

interrelated I want to just highlight

this because this for me when I heard

this many years ago I thought this was

uh I thought this couldn't possibly be

true

but in

2010 um when you were 51 years old you

took part in a study at Rand bound

University Medical Center in the

Netherlands where you were injected with

a a bacterial toxin a dead straight of

ecoli in previous studies of a 100

healthy people they responded to that

injection with a flu like response which

is what you'd expect you'd get the flu

if you were injected with that however

when when you were injected with that uh

bacterial toxin

uh you had no negative immune response

apart from a minor

headache your but blood results also

showed the release of cortisol

adrenaline and the messenger messenger

chemical il10 which is an

anti-inflammatory pro protein all of

which helped you to fight off that

bacteria uh however to prove that this

wasn't just you being some superhuman

scientists gathered 30 male volunteers

12 were put into a control Group which

meant that they were just normal and 18

were trained by you uh you took 18 of

them to Poland for 4 days to train them

on meditation cold exposure annual

breathing techniques and when they were

injected with the um bacterial toxin uh

the dead strain of ecoli the trained

group had a significantly less immune

response recovered quicker and their

bodily responses were similar to your

own this was a major scientific

breakthrough and it showed people could

voluntarily control

their automatic nervous system and

immune

response which was previously thought to

be impossible and that's the viewer the

viewer is looking at this now that's you

and and that's where we want to reach

out to you have the uh uh absolute

capacity to rule so much better within

your own body and I'm I'm I'm doing the

science I'm following the science and I

think it's scandalous of the scientific

Community not to have Dove upon this why

don't we is it because it's difficult no

it's not difficult it's not now like I

don't know over the 100 million people

are doing this but through the

scientific World which is uh also in the

beginning of this conversation it's

corrupted they get funding from the

pharmaceutical industry and that's all

good Etc I'm not messing with them uh

but natural ways that could equalize the

results of medicines without side

effects should at least have a thorough

examination by the scientific uh Elite

world can I just I want to make sure I'm

super clear on what's going on here and

what to achieve these phenomenal results

um by by having a sort of doing some of

these techniques that help us to unlock

the the stress and the trauma that's

deep in our body and that enable us to

create a better response with

stress we're able to guard off the

stress which means we're able to protect

our well-being which m means that we're

able to fend off disease because we all

know that when we're highly stressed our

immune system Falls and we get sick I

know in my own life whenever I'm really

stressed is the only time that I'll ever

get a cold or or anything like that is

that is that the simple way of

describing what's going on here yeah yes

yes we have this innate capacity to

heighten our buffer zone uh toward uh

stress by which stress is not able to do

its damage and is part of the problem

with the modern way of living that we've

chosen

medication as the answer too often and

we've also made our lives as stress free

as we possibly can absolutely absolutely

there is no doubt about it and it is a

dead end street by the way and the whole

Health Care system is B burdened by the

the finances and all it's it's going to

collapse anyway if it keeps on going but

because it is a money-making uh way uh

that's why they will keep on going until

it

collapses I had professor friedr in Mar

thebook on the line uh talking

about he said to me whim the

democracy the Democracy as we know it

actually is uh at Peril in danger why

because the people are becoming so

weak and we the democracy is only uh

composed by the strength of the people

once we get all weaker and a a system

which is corrupt just to uh make money a

healthy economy on

people that wants to stay that way makes

the people weaker and weaker by which

the Democracy will know its ant will

collapse and I said hey that weakness in

the Democracy in people I can make it go

away in one

week simply sense talking to this

professor and he he agreed because he

saw it he saw it in the people he knew

it he he knew it from anecdotal evidence

he knew it from his family taking up

these crazy whm Hof techniques going

into call Wim Hof whatever is a brand

name I'm a simple guy I know what it is

to have nothing at all to be a nobody

and now I got a name and fame and all

that I don't care it's okay if I got to

stand up I will and I will say hey here

I am whim Hof the Iceman and I will

change the world how through making you

better than who you think you could be

and that is through the Wim Hof method

and fasting is good

too to deprive yourself in different

ways hor matically that is

self-inflicted acute stressful

exercise but do it consciously if you

don't go to the cult the cult will come

to you you if you don't go to dist

stress the stress will come to you cuz

we are built to endure we are built we

got these capacities so if we go into

the cult you will see that there your

whole body is able to handle stress so

much better and when you know you are

going into a stressful uh event of any

kind you know willfully to connect

yourself make your body from the inside

so strong that the stress out there is

no problem there's three elements to

this whim Hoff method there's three

pillars to the method the first is that

conscious breathing so let's just make

sure we've covered that off if I want to

be able to just do this at home if I'm

listening now and I'm in my car or I'm

walking the dog or whatever I'm on a

plane what is what is the sort of key

parts of doing the breathing technique

correctly yes do it safe yeah so never

outside where you can lose control okay

you know when you drive and you lose

control that's no good when you are in a

swimming pool you lose control h that's

no good H when you are at an Abus and

you lose control no good you know

wherever your motoric uh uh uh Power is

needed to be in control don't do it

there therefore we say

strictly this is a powerful medicinal

therapeutic

uh exercise through breathing specific

breathing uh patterns we take on if for

example we are sitting now yeah it's

safe to do it here yeah even if you

faint now then yeah you would maybe fall

here on the ground is a soft uh uh

carpet here there no problem okay

so relax it's a this is also these

moments when you okay relax I'm I'm now

turning myself into myself because I'm

going to breathe deeper I'm going to go

past my normal uh control mode normal

conditioning normal thinking so okay am

I here yes I'm

here okay here we go we have a belly we

have a chest that those uh muscles are

connected to the lungs so use your belly

and use your uh

chest to inhale

fully you can go through your mouth

through your nose as you feel how do I

know if I'm doing it correctly with my

belly yeah

just so two breaths in yeah and at a

certain moment becomes

one keep on going fully in as deep as

possible and Let It Go just Let It Go

and then fully in

again as deep as possible let it

go all in

and Let It

Go and all

in Let It Go the Mind goes with a breath

fully

in Let It

Go and all

in Let It

Go we are blowing keep on going for in

blowing of the CO2 carbon

dioxide can become a little bit DIY but

that's okay your body is charging up

it's changing your blood chemistry is

changing you may your pH levels go up in

your blood we do 10 more fully

in just follow the breath

whatever feels different breathe into it

Let It

Go and all

in Let it go this morning at 5:00 I was

doing this because I Was preparing to be

freed in my biochemistry of any [ __ ] and

this is cleansing the biochemistry

trauma anything anything that is deeply

in is being CLE yeah five

more Let It

Go fully

in Let It

Go all

in Let It Go all

in Let it

go last one hold

in let it go and stop after the

exhalation close your mouth no breathing

no need your pH levels are way up

there's no need for breathing what is

going to happen is what I was saying

mentioning

before after one minute and there is no

need for breathing because the breathing

trigger depends on co2 CO2 is blown off

you are biohacking your

body you're going deep you're going past

the condition

mind and body you're going deeper in the

tissue now you're entering into the

deepest part of your

brain it's going to shoot out adrenaline

epinephrine the adrenal axis is now in

activation now slowly but

surely five times more blood will flow

into your brain and your heart you feel

peaceful

you have it fully in control yet the

deepest of your mechanisms and the

deepest of your brain are at work right

now and because you are doing it you are

connecting with those

mechanisms that's the way we learn to

gain control over these mechanisms and

you're still without breathing even

normally you you you would die like yeah

breathing breathing you're

peaceful you're completely in control

over your parasympathetic nervous system

which is deep autonomic nervous system

level and you are in control right now

this is where trauma is starting to

release five 4 3 2 1 now you take a full

breath

in hold it and press it to your head

press it to your head press it to your

head

this is

subliminal cerebral spinal fluid to your

head it's flushing in and all brain 100%

neural Activity 3 2 1 let it

go

good if we go into a next round you will

be able to go say for two minutes

without breathing then 2 and 1/2 minutes

then 3

minutes after exhalation

it is it cannot be something else than a

regaining a control deeper than ever

before thought possible and this is what

we have shown this is where the bacteria

suddenly had no

chance the virus has no chance why is it

that the world doesn't know about this

why is it that the scientific world is

not examining this as a beneficial

therapeutical power to battle all the

diseases we got because aren't we built

with an immune system that

shoot Hal virus bacteria uh inflammation

it is but it is never at way because

this is deeper than our conditioned body

and mind and this is the way to get a

hold of that it feels so I feel very

different in every in every sense of the

word I feel when I came back into the

room it all felt very it almost felt a

little bit like I just woken up but it

also I was a little you know it was a

little bit of it was very peaceful

peaceful and I was very um when I came

back into the room I felt very focused

nice I felt like I this is the last

study I did with 540 people in Australia

it shows uh that this uh um this uh

method is compared to meditation and

mindfulness Works a whole lot better how

did you learn this where did you learn

this by intuition you remember the

mother who made me uh

uh become a missionary become a seeker

and then I found the cold water what

does the cold water do first time you go

into cold

water you learn to breathe deep and that

makes all the change at a certain moment

I became aware that if I was breathing

deeper slowly and deep slowly and deep I

was able to endure the cold much longer

that means that if we go into deeper

breathing we are able to activate deeper

mechanisms that are able to make us a

lot stronger and that translates to life

yeah translates to everyday life I want

to get on to the cold water which is the

sort of second pillar of the Wim Hof

method but the third pillar I find

really interesting as well which is the

power of the Mind exactly what do you

mean by this the power of the mind

you're telling me that I can do things

to my mind to make my mind stronger and

more resilient oh yes oh yes what do you

mean by the power of the Mind the first

of all we just recently did this new

study it's coming out now um it's into

submitting and they did it with 540

people so meditation and mindfulness is

about the mind isn't it to bring anxiety

down to bring stress down this method

works better than mindfulness and

meditation which is in the corporate

world but also in the wellness industry

uh overall and also therapeutically in

the health Mental Health Care uh yeah

systems uh being accept accepted and uh

implemented and used as a therap

therapeutical means so this works better

uh the stress resilience goes way up

stress experience goes way down and the

cognitive awareness goes also way up is

what you just said and uh this was only

one round imagine if you do four rounds

you will go so deep that's yeah

unprecedent enter deep where you will go

and things can come to the surface never

been stashed away you never knew of or

we're not aware of at all this is all

blocking our

awareness and now when it's getting out

of the way then suddenly our awareness

becomes bigger brighter nicer more flow

more receptive more sharper clearer and

all and uh that

that is part of a system that suddenly

is able to override our

conditioning so our conditioning is a

conditioning wherein deeper mechanisms

are not really at work but we are able

to function in this Society system Etc

but not necessarily we are connected

with the depth of our selves and when

trauma happens or emotion start to be

not nice we don't know what to do with

that now the power of the mind is very

simple through doing this you learn to

override to create a different

conditioned mind and body

relationship and suddenly opens up a new

terrain a new capacity in the brain to

connect with and that is

interoception interoception

interoception interception and and with

that we suddenly learn to

control uh and to command our bodies a

vessel of our emotions of our sensations

of or whatever we experience that's our

body but when it feels bad we don't know

what to do and now we found a way to go

past that conditioned State and we found

a new way in the brain and get a hold of

that which is there naturally to control

control whatever is going wrong to

re-regulate it to rebalance it to reset

it to make our bad feelings emotions uh

disease Etc make it go away in our

Command that is the power of the mind

which is a natural capacity of ours

which should be revealed past uh the

system way of thinking and be brought

into SE secondary school or or even when

kids are very young that they are able

to depict their own happiness strength

and health is part of the building up

the power of the Mind

becoming stepping into personal

responsibility and stepping away from

victimhood yes because victimhood is no

longer needed

responsibility is there where we have

the ability to respond and this is these

are the tools then suddenly we feel we

got the stair wheel in our hand how do

you train someone though to stop being a

victim in their own life in one in one

session how just do this breathing yeah

and then uh we go into the ice birth

yeah they suddenly feel

power sorry that I'm yelling you can

yell yeah it's power people feel the

being silent in that ice bath oh

overcoming all that stress and suddenly

feel that they are on top of it and they

are suddenly able to go past this

concept of this dangerous cold power

energy coming to No Control this anxiety

is suddenly they got a halt complete

halt over that and with that comes that

Paradigm that always thought of that to

be impossible to control Suddenly It's a

piece of cake that that is then turning

into a a a domino effect a Cascade of uh

uh feelings of hey if I can do that I

can do that I can do that I can do

that so you can build personal

responsibility by taking control of the

cold and not oh absolutely and in just

one day okay well guess what whim

upstairs I have two ice baths I've

always been bad with the cold always

it's a story I've told myself for my

entire life so seeing as you're here and

seeing as I just happened to have two

ice baths

upstairs could we go upstairs and get in

those ice baths and you can teach me how

to master the cold so the cold no longer

Masters

me follow me on this I'm I'm just a a

brother of another mother in this yeah

we are like family family people have

the capacity to transmit their energy M

it's logical it's it's nothing woa it's

real and you will feel it's real today

here in the ice just follow me there in

and very soon you take the reins over

you

yourself let's do it

okay okay so when we've got uh two ice

baths here is there a certain

temperature they need to be does it

matter no this this is the right temp

temperature very

cold

yeah so so so so talk me through what

we're going to do and how we're going to

prepare is there a way I I want to do

one minute horse St with you I've not

done this before so you need to coach me

through

yeah your voice I want to hear you yeah

why are we doing this because you're

going to go into the ice and then you

feel why okay because it's feeling got

to go into your feeling now okay so

command your body to feel

strong mhm yeah mhm we bring happiness

strength and health to the whole wide

world MH yes mhm okay command yourself

to be strong this is a

to see if you are able to commence your

body from the inside to be strong MH

right mhm so let's go in mhm

sorry stay with your breath we are

friends come on we show the world from

the inside is the power let the body do

what the body is capable of long out

breath long out

breath long out you're doing good look

at hey you didn't think this one like

this yet you're doing

good yeah it let your body do what the

body is capable of it takes about 20

seconds more then then your body is

adapting from the inside means that the

hormone system suddenly has found a way

to oppose the

impact and that makes your body strong

that makes your immune system on that

makes your emotions being within your

control the deepest part of the brain

now is within because you are doing it

is within your command and that is

reestablishing natural power of us this

is what we are going to bring to the

whole wide of world because we love the

people and we bring happiness strength

and health no it's power this is power

but silent

nice how simple it can be I'm not a

sorcerer or something or a magician life

is Magic yes let's get to life look at

he was afraid of the cold hey the cold

is not mine I'm got a warm body it's

just not mine look at them now you can't

buy

this you can obtain this happiness

health and strength you can obtain it

you just go to the cold and the cold

doesn't come to you did you have done it

yeah yeah I love it what what time of

the day do you do it in the in the

morning in the morning and how long

would you sit in here in the morning

sometimes I stay I had a birthday when I

became 60 I thought I'm going to show

the world that I'm [ __ ] strong sorry

for the

French but I'm going to stay 60 Minutes

in the in the icy water and I had happy

times and 61 I did 61 minutes 62 I did

62 minutes 63 I had 63 and when I became

64 I thought that's boring no going to

do this

anymore yeah you your nature is on

inside and that's the whole message and

with that comes the a strengthened

immune system a strengthened

cardiovascular system cardiovascular

related issues is killer number one in

our

society through this it's

gone this the way to tackle it

connection with the depth of the brain

the deepest part of the brain and if you

are able to go to the deepest part where

else can you not

go so if I did this once a day you think

I'd be better equipped to deal with the

stress of work and the stress of Life

yeah of

course man and you don't need to go this

long

into an eyes bath two three minutes is

enough I we''ve been in six minutes it

it doesn't feel cold anymore though I

actually feel a bit warm funly enough my

legs feel like they're warm but I don't

know if that's just from my body

shutting down or something

yeah okay I think it now there time

enough come louder you did it come

on down

amazing thank you so much it was so

interesting the first um the first 20

seconds of that process are so

fascinating because I had to conf a lot

of things I had to confront a lot of

natural reactions that told me to stop

to get out to you know my body went into

like a phase of panic and it's funny

because as I reflect on that feeling of

like Panic it was like a wall and it was

a wall that I had to make a decision

about going through or going backwards

and I say this because I think in a lot

of Our Lives we're surrounded by these

walls and it's in many of our Lives

actually the walls kind of close in on

us and what I learned in the first sort

of 20 seconds of that process was that

that wall was something I created myself

it was a figment of my imagination and

as I sat there for what five six

minutes my body almost said to me it was

like sorry I was lying I was lying to

you something was lying because five six

minutes in I'm completely fine yeah but

in that first 20 seconds some Panic

signal went off and told me to retreat

and so I just find that so fascinating

it's like there's something about

breaking through a wall

mhm that you once really believed was

real that illuminates your mind to the

what other kind of self-limiting beliefs

you're currently constrained by in

everyday life you know I could I

couldn't say it better uh self-limiting

uh belief uh beliefs coming in at a

certain moment become blockages become

patterns become condition and that

conditioning uh withholds us from going

through uh things when they come to our

lives because they are too stressful

they are uh uh mirroring that what we uh

through our self- believing uh limiting

uh way of thinking have created then we

see it outside and we don't go in it we

don't go through it anymore and thus we

don't find uh uh these things in our

lives anymore to uh

as life's lessons it's no longer there

and and there we limit ourselves and

become narrowed so what we have found

now through these uh practices that we

are able to command our bodies so much

better to go through the self-limiting

self H disc conditioning because in most

of the time it is uh that we get

schooled that we have to follow rules

ethics morals Etc at a certain moment we

got a belief system that is not

necessarily who we are in the depth and

this is where this Society is

suffering uh big time of having no

connection with this invisible purpose

of ours which is there but we it's

behind the wall and simply through doing

this you see you have the power to go

through these walls you have the power

to uh become exactly who you are and

what you are that is what the C is

showing it doesn't show what what you

think it shows you who you are and what

you are and from there you will see that

the walls in your life of whatever

invisibly what stalking you will

disappear is this in part why it seems

like a lot of people in society right

now are choosing discomfort because you

know we've got kind of gone one way as a

society we've gone to comfort and then

you've got this counter movement of

people that are now doing Ma ultra

marathon runs and they're cold plunging

and they're they're doing things to put

themselves in intentional discomfort it

seems like it's for me it's I've

observed it like a counter movement yes

and it is and and it is but H the the

thing is H now that we are showing in

signs with the professor Vibe of divar

mostly in Auto music uh that we found a

key and the key is the innate capacity

of ours to command our bodies much

better in our emotions because in the

end it's not about going into the

extremes it's about handling our emotion

and to feel that we are on top of it no

matter what and that being able to pass

on to our

children the way

reactionary it

all we go into these extremes and all

that is a that is a reaction of our uh

massive Paradigm encountering too much

comfort now hey let's go to that but

that's reactionary human is it that we

actually uh are here to uh learn to have

a uh Hal absolute Hal over our emotion

which is directly connected to our

purpose because from the beginning or uh

it the problem the conflict is the

conflict with our soul and our soul is

about when we realize our soul and the

unlimited power of the of the Mind

serving us to find realization of that

soul and that is for every person unique

what are the other things that are like

Staples of your daily routine eat once a

day you eat once a day yeah okay so you

you wake so can you run me through a a

perfect whm Hof day yeah in the morning

uh I wake up uh next to my wife and my

child the my youngest is uh is six and

actually there's a new one coming I'm 65

but hey man I'm alive I'm sorry and I

got a yeah I found a younger woman eight

and a half years ago we are very happy

together and she says don't talk about

it

and I'm sorry but I'm very happy my

oldest son is 42 and my youngest is

going to be zero very soon so that's

life I wake up and I I look at my

beloveds next to me still sleeping and

wow like Angels what time did you wake

up 5:00 5:00 halfast 5 uh halfast 4

around there why so early that that is

me now sometimes I just sleep until 9:00

okay it's

I'm not really bound okay but uh uh time

is serving me I'm not serving time in

the morning I do my exercising a ritual

and I like my coffee in the morning I

start no sugar just coffee a little bit

milk and

nice what are those exercising

routines you saw me doing the

split I want to do a world record by the

way in three third of August in Germany

with 4,000 people doing this and do you

use weights or anything yeah a yeah use

weights before not okay I I did push-ups

it's like weight yeah your own weight so

you can do that or weights and uh uh I

got a bar where normally you got put the

weight on MH you do this it's about 10K

yeah I make it Circle mhm like a stick

if you do that 500 times

it's you really go deep you go to your

pain I if I do exercises I I do it to

the threshold of

pain and then I overcome the

pain then it's then it's okay that is

body

awareness that body awareness I want to

know feel feel

that I live not know feel that I I'm

alive when's that first meal of the day

uh later later in the day so no

breakfast no no no no breakfast no lunch

why no lunch because I I feel stuffed

up I feel too much this is also part of

conditioning I could also enjoy a very

nice

breakfast very nice breakfast is very

nice you know with the sea and sitting

there relax wow some eggs some this some

that nice coffee hello how are you the

newspaper or look at the phone it's

enjoying life I I could do that but I I

really enjoy the feeling that I'm

fasting

inside a little that that I'm going

against like the cold if you go to the

cold then the cold doesn't come to you

yeah when when the appetite comes I just

DeLay So you fast for you're doing some

sort of intermittent fasting there as

they call it you're you're going yeah

but I I I did this since I was a young

kid again intuition yeah intuition it's

just how you felt yes because the

external narrative is you got to have

three meals a day maybe four meals a day

you've got to have breakfast you know

lunch dinner no no no yeah that's just

just made up it's made

up uh you should feel like any any

animal in the world is not eating when

it doesn't need to eat because it

doesn't think it only eats when it feels

and when it feels that it needs to eat

his eyes become bigger becoming more

alert adrenaline starts to run they

become sharper they then all the systems

are at work that is the way it it

automatically exercises its all of body

that's how I I live my life and I've

always thought I was a bit strange but

we're now at 1 p.m. I haven't eaten

anything today sometimes I get a little

bit later into the day I mean yesterday

this week it's been 5 6 p.m. I think

yesterday was 700 p.m. my first meal and

I I I'm okay I I don't know what the you

know but I yeah you enjoy life you enjoy

the energies I focus better I have

better conversations yeah yeah all that

if you fast a little

bit long and then you become sharper and

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when you look at our society and the

these sort of stories we've told

ourselves about how we're supposed to

live yeah what are the other s is there

any anything else that's really

fundamental that you think people should

question you've talked to me about the

breath you've talked to me about

discomfort breathing is one of them

you've talked to me there about fasting

as well is there anything else that you

know whether it's relationships or our

work or our purpose that is just a lie

in your opinion oh yes our energy is

being drained it's like thieving and uh

uh uh uh we should have all the energy

to bring happiness strength and health

to our kids and to feel bright bright

and shiny in life but we don't because

we have to do this do that take on

stress and think about this think about

that who did this whatever did this is

is a massive Paradigm going on

taking our en energetic bodies and with

that our our emotions and with that our

life force and and there it is the real

philosophy serves that Paradigm where

one becomes happy strong and healthy and

is able to pass it on you're only good

if you are able to be happy strong

healthy inside and then pass it radiate

that to

others there you go past your ego and

that we we we don't live that we survive

in this Society we live in a competitive

world we have all kinds of rules in this

and that but do we really feel bright

and and the top the best of ourselves

are we able to give love in full

conviction that it is good and to

others are we there I don't think so and

that is what we are going to bring

when you say you need to know live in