And then we're going to do specialty

drinks up here. We'll still have full

sponsorship.

I want one of these.

Right? Yeah.

David is obsessed with Paloma. I love

Paloma.

Yeah, I'm in the Paloma zone right now.

I'm a Paloma guy right now.

It's like the All-In intro music. Yeah,

which I've done a live arrangement for

with the brass.

Now, we're not going to do a year in

review discussion. Which is great.

That's

I think we caught it. Yeah, we're going

to go right into the awards.

Well, you're going to go right into

You're going to go right into Santa

Claus.

Doing his bit.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We could do that. It's

easy.

That's the Santa Claus change moment.

That could be the change part, exactly.

How much time does he need to change?

Oh,

WATCH ME.

SANTA CLAUS. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S pretty hilarious.

So, we're really excited to have some

Bestie Awards to give out tonight. Let's

get started. Jcal, are you back? Are you

here? Where are you?

Oh god, sorry. I was just getting IN

FOUNDER MODE. WOO! LET'S GO. SATURDAY

NIGHT, SAN FRANCISCO.

ALL RIGHT, JCAL, you want to warm us up?

All right, everybody.

Let's get loose.

We know what we do. We have a game plan.

We've been doing this for 206 episodes.

We're not changing anything. We are who

we are. We know what to do.

Bring back

bring back science. Sacks. I got the red

meat for you. And Chamath,

I need you as obnoxious as you can be

out there.

Don't worry about me. I got jokes. I got

jokes for days.

We started this in COVID, and we're

going to finish it on Pennsylvania

Avenue.

Now, let's bring it in.

ONE, TWO, THREE, ALL IN. ALL IN.

WE GOT THIS.

LET'S GO.

AMERICA, 2024. A year of political

earthquakes, extraordinary market

events, war, space, and the revelation

that Diddy is super into baby oil.

Authorities located more than 1,000

bottles of baby oil lubricant. It was a

year so profound,

to give him that hook, poo, and spit on

that thing. America was at times at a

loss for words.

The

Like I said, I'm Well put, gentle Joe.

So, tonight we look back. The All-In

podcast presents America 2024.

What in the [ __ ] just happened?

The story of 2024 starts with AI. The

revolutionary technology has fueled a

boom in countless sectors, but mostly

the legal field.

Scarlett Johansson's legal team wants

details on exactly how they were able to

create that voice that sounds like she

said so eerily similar.

No, it sounds just like Of course, it's

a digitally altered version of ScarJo.

And they got caught.

Okay. Cookie jar. And AI also created

the most remarkable deepfake video ever.

Welcome. Think about it. They almost

look like friends. Amazing. Yes, 2024

proved there's no problem AI can't solve

and or cause. Google has had to pause

AI-made images, quote, after race

inaccuracies. This year, AI helped

launch the most drool-worthy tech

product in years,

a computer chip.

Yeah, baby.

DJX has become the essential instrument

of AI. Never seen anything like this in

the history of Silicon Valley or

corporate America. Nvidia is king of the

AI revolution, and they're so hot,

they're

literally too hot.

The Information reported that the chips

are overheating in servers. But don't

worry, there's an elegant solution to

the problem. I bought myself this

Hiroshima mask, so I do not have to

smell the burn on those conductors.

Problem solved.

But Nvidia wasn't alone in AI news.

OpenAI was at the forefront of

reinventing another crucial industry,

office drama. Lot of drama involving

OpenAI. What a mess. What's next? This

week on General AI Hospital.

Is Sam Altman's job security in

jeopardy?

Whose data was stolen this time?

What did Ilya see? Why isn't he talking

about it? And with our special guest,

will our special guest get her revenge?

General AI Hospital.

But Sam Altman never let the drama

distract him from OpenAI's primary

mission,

philanthropy. It's actually really

important that you're not doing private

enrichment off philanthropic donations.

And so, you know, it's it's But isn't

that what's happened?

Um

Um you know, I think that the, you know,

um

You know, I think, like I said, sour

grapes. Well said, Reed. But even if

OpenAI was a little more like closed AI,

its humble leader Sam Altman was still

toiling away humbly for the betterment

of mankind. You make a lot of money, do

you? I make no. I'm paid enough for

health insurance. I have no equity in

OpenAI. Really? That's interesting. But

don't think this working-class hero

doesn't suffer. Did you know that his

$1.9 million supercar wasn't available

in candy apple red like he wanted?

Still, it wouldn't be a year in review

without mentioning Elon Musk, who

incidentally we will all be required to

mention daily in 2025 as bound by

federal law.

The world's jumpiest capitalist and the

new co-leader of the free world showed

everyone in 2024 that being Elon Musk is

a pretty [ __ ] sweet gig.

From soaring in space to delivering

charity, from business booms to getting

anointed by Joe Rogan as free speech

Jesus, from getting hired in politics to

getting hired to fire people in

politics, 2024 was a year that couldn't

shake Elon Musk. Just ask this guy. You

know, he likes this place. I can't get

him out of here.

And it was all prophesied by our own

David Palpatine. Everything has

proceeded as I have foreseen. 2024 was a

banner year in tech, and in how many

giant names we tricked into coming on

our podcast. I love that house he has. I

love David's house. I can't believe I

get to sit down with one of the most

famous investors in Uber. It was like

the hand of God massaging my central

nervous system. What the flying [ __ ] If

you have specific questions, I'm happy

to Did somebody stab you in the back?

Did you find AGI?

Oh my god, WHAT HAVE WE DONE INVITING

these lunatics on the program? Hold on,

guys. I got to get into founder mode.

Oh, wow. Founder mode. Deep founder

mode. I'm going to I'm going to founder.

I got a founder mode, too. Ah.

First, Jcal.

Ah. Okay.

Speaking of financial highs, 2024

experienced a wide range of viewpoints

from the effectiveness of ESG to

disagreement on new CTA BOI reporting.

But there was unanimous agreement on one

key financial issue. Lina Khan has

become the most aided and feared person

on Wall Street.

And Lina Khan is utterly ineffective.

What Lina Khan has done is just go

after, quote, bigness, which just means

stopping these companies from doing

anything that would make them bigger.

The only acquisition she couldn't stop,

Chamath's $5,000 sweater habit. Are you

Chamath? Strut your stuff. Let's talk

about the sweaters. This, Jason. Oh,

really? is the thin summer jacket. Okay.

Really? Beautiful cashmere. There's a

sweater.

[ __ ] YEAH.

THESE DAYS, the All-In boys and their

friends are looking slim in their

cashmere thanks to a new class of

miracle drugs that stormed the world of

biotech in 2024. Ozempic. Ozempic.

Ozempic is a game changer. Injectable

weight loss drugs are hot. In our poker

group, like four of the 12 or 13

regulars are on it. 2025 is looking to

be the year GLP-1s change the face of

everything, literally. But we've heard

that term Ozempic face. First, we had

Ozempic face, and now we have Ozempic

butt.

But if 2024 will be remembered for one

thing, it will be for shining a light on

elder abuse. Our 46th president stepped

aside, introducing the country to a

fresh new upstart ready to tackle the

problems of a fractured country. I grew

up a middle-class kid. I grew up a

middle-class kid. I grew up a

middle-class kid.

I grew up a middle-class kid. President

Trump, however, wouldn't stand by idly

and let Kamala torture own campaign.

They're eating the dogs. The people that

came in, they're eating the cats. In the

end, however, it wasn't even close.

Literally nothing? Literally nothing.

Literally not one county?

There was just so much to 2024 that we

can't cover it all. From Trump nearly

getting assassinated to Trump nearly

getting assassinated, from continued

wars in Europe and the Middle East to

continued battles on the home front,

from the cringiest of TikToks to black

Nazis and an Aussie dance legend. 2024

was anything but very demure, very

mindful.

With 2024 in the rearview mirror, let's

turn to our outgoing president for some

sage advice on our collective future.

But I tell you what, I don't know about

you, but I'm going to go to bed.

Let your winners ride. Ladies and

gentlemen, please join me in welcoming

your

bestie.

What's up?

Merry Christmas.

WELCOME TSAR SACKS.

YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED TO SAY MERRY

Christmas until about 3 weeks ago. Merry

Wait, [ __ ] Christmas, everybody.

Where's

Happy holidays. Where's Jay Cal?

Where's Jay Cal?

Jay Cal? Jay Cal?

It is I, Santa Canis, here to spread joy

and stock options and Bitcoins to all

these fine San Francisco they/thems,

it's whatevers.

Ho ho ho.

Okay, this is starting off horribly, but

okay.

Chamath. Ho ho. Santa Canis, where are

you coming from? Well, you know, uh

You know they paid money for this,

right? You could have at least memorized

your lines.

It's just too funny. Sometimes the cold

opens work and sometimes they don't.

They don't, it's true, it's true. The

problem is this one this one's supposed

to go for 8 minutes, so.

8 minutes? You have stuff in there for 8

minutes? It's not like you guys are

going to make this crowd laugh, okay?

No, it's we moved the North Pole. We

moved it. Where'd you move it to, Santa

Canis?

a problem because, you know, all of

these elves who've come across the

border up there, tons of fentanyl, it's

a disaster, terrible. And just crazy

inflation up there, so we we moved the

North Pole down to Austin, Texas.

Oh, it's it's it's in Austin, Texas now.

Yeah. Better tax treatment, you know.

Can you get elves there? You know, it's

a little bit hard. Some of them have

come across the border, some of them

work hard. Other ones, not so much.

Have you automated? Well, you know,

it's interesting you say that. Oh Oh, no

milk and cookies. I'll take some Bitcoin

if you have any extra. Okay. Thank you

there, Chamath. Yes, we've done some

automation. Ho ho ho,

yes. OH, HERE IT IS, EVERYBODY. You

know, we have a lot of problems with the

elves. You know, they've been

unionizing, Sacks. It's too much

regulation, but we can get these here

from 1X, only $1 per hour, BUT WE NEED

YOU BACK IN SANTA'S LAB, OKAY? You need

to be building some toys, okay? Now, get

back to work.

Yeah, we don't have HR anymore, okay?

So, what are you doing after?

Yeah. No, I mean, I got my friends got

the good K. Okay, we'll talk later.

Whose robot is this?

It's Santa's

robotic elf, right, Sacks? Santa Canis,

sorry, hold on a second. Hold on. Before

we continue with this clearly incredible

bit that you two ding-dongs wrote.

I was just told to read Can we just say

a cheers FOR THE NEW TSAR?

MAZEL TOV, BRO. CONGRATULATIONS.

That's

Congratulations there. Congratulations,

Tsar.

It's a little hard with the $27 Amazon

Santa suit. Ho ho ho.

Well, you know, guys,

I have the list here

that you guys were asking about. This is

the naughty list.

this bit goes on for like 8 minutes.

Hold on.

I've got the naughty and the nice list.

It's a pretty big list this year. Let's

take a look. Sam Altman is on the

naughty list. Very naughty. Two, three,

four times on the naughty

list.

Oh, Jensen also on the top of the list.

Uh you know, Santa's got a lot of that

Nvidia, 20 bag or so far.

Woo. Yes, also some Nvidia employees

here. They didn't sponsor, though.

Oh.

I don't know why he's so cheap.

Okay, Santa Canis, I think it's time for

you to go back to Austin. Yeah, well,

you know, I have to do another podcast.

Yeah, it's it's got 20 times the ratings

of All-In. It's called Hot Ones. I don't

know who the host is, but uh you're

getting beaten in the ratings by 12

chicken wings. Congratulations, boy.

More work for you guys, okay? I'll see

you next time. All right, bye everybody.

Okay.

Well,

you you have to you have to admire the

dedication to the bit. Most people would

given up after about 2 minutes.

He just kept going with it. He really

he's really committed. He keeps going,

yeah.

It's great. So, just to get you guys

oriented, thank you all for being here.

This is going to be awesome.

We got a great night planned. We got a

show we're going to walk through the

Bestie Awards tonight. It's going to be

super fun.

And oh, here we go. Here we go. Sorry,

I'm late. I was in an Uber. I was in an

Uber. I heard Santa Claus showed up. In

an Uber. In an Uber.

Okay. Oh, sorry. Let's do a drinking

game. The number of times Jay Cal shills

his companies, we need to drink.

Jay Cal, introduce the awards as kick

this off. How's this going to work? Oh,

okay. So, you guys know we do this

amazing Bestie Awards. So, we're going

to do a bunch of Bestie Awards here live

on stage. And interestingly, this year

we actually made a Bestie Award. It's

right next to you, Chamath. Maybe you

can hold one up. Sacks, go ahead and

take a look at this.

Now, this Bestie Award is two men

embracing

in a long, awkward hug.

And many people don't know the

inspiration for this awkwardness, but

here it is to remind everybody. There it

is.

And that that's actually Chamath and

David Sacks. David Sacks is actually

interpreting the hug.

He actually reciprocated.

that we were the mold for for this?

You guys are the mold. It was cast

out of our body shapes. It's your bo-

it's

uh actually accurate down to the uh

inch. Yes, it's very very accurate. You

and Sacks uh Sacks, you and uh Chamath

there hugging. Uh so, the first award

we're going to do is business. Biggest

winner,

biggest loser,

and biggest surprise. So, Chamath,

would you like to kick it off

with your biggest business winner?

I think the biggest business winner of

2024

is

the business of speech.

And what I mean by that is I think that

we have made freedom of speech a very

successful business model.

All right, well done. Yeah, it's

Who's your biggest business winner,

Sacks? Well, I I wanted to be original,

but I really couldn't I thought it was

so obvious this year it has to be Elon

Musk. Okay, Elon Musk, that's always a

safe choice. Freeberg, who do you have?

It's SpaceX, Starlink, Starship. I don't

know what else Chopsticks.

comes close. Comes close. What's that?

Chopsticks. Well, I mean, First neural

link implants. And SpaceX at like a $350

billion valuation, like tripling from

that level in a year, it's insane, never

been done before. The boundaries just

don't matter. It's incredible. It is

incredible. I went with Nvidia just to

mix it up. Who's your biggest business

loser, Sacks?

I said the biggest business loser was

the legacy media.

Oh, mainstream media. Okay.

They they lost the election and

something like half their ratings, and

they've been exposed as basically being

overpaid podcasters.

Okay.

I mean,

But podcasters aspire to be overpaid

legacy media hosts. Yeah.

Chamath, who is your biggest business

loser? Business loser, Intel. From

the company that basically

commercialized Moore's Law for the

advancement of humanity

to just a totally confused shell of its

former self.

Hmm. Who do you got, Freeberg, as your

biggest business loser?

Very old business

has had uh

kind of mantle place position in the

United States for decades. That would be

Boeing, which seemed to unravel this

year

with um obviously the debacle with the

aerospace program, particularly with

Starliner stranding some astronauts,

needing to get rescued, and there's a

lot of turnover happening in the

organization. It just seems like a mess.

You know, I I with Apple only because I

felt the Vision Pro felt flat, the new

iPhone 16 not very strong, and I feel

like they're adrift. And Warren Buffett

sold all his shares in it. I feel like

the company could do much better.

That's a good pick.

their stock's up like 30% this year. I

think it's a little bit in the middle,

but I think it's based on potential. I

think they should be releasing great new

products, and they aren't. Okay.

let's go to business surprise. Did you

have a business surprise over there,

Saxypoo? I said Palantir was a biggest

business surprise this year.

I mean, I thought the company would do

well, but its stock went up 5x this

year, from $16 a share to 76.

Completely counterintuitive, it just the

market cap of Palantir just passed the

market cap of Lockheed Martin.

The amazing counterintuitive thing about

Palantir was how much time

they spent with their customers.

Everybody shat on that idea, and they

were totally right.

Totally right.

Uh so, were they your biggest surprise

as well? Uh no. My biggest business

surprise

uh are GLP-1s.

I think the number of markets that it

seems to help.

This year, it went from weight loss to

cardiac fitness to depression to drug

addiction uh alcohol I mean You know,

they

It's basically a wonder drug of wonder

drugs. And also, I think you might be

interested, they said it can help with

compulsive gambling as well, Chamath.

That is why I am not on a GLP-1.

I don't have a problem.

Okay, Friedberg, do you have a surprise?

I was surprised by the return of kind of

the long tail of crypto.

Uh it's

Okay. made it's come roaring back, and

everything seems to be on fire again. No

comment from the cryptos are I know, but

Crypto comeback is your biggest

surprise.

Crypto crypto comeback. The long tail

crypto comeback. I feel like

Bitcoin was always a different story,

but the long tail's got a different

I looked at it, and I I always love

great products. I picked Google.

Everybody was talking 2 years ago about

how Google was falling behind, and 10

blue links weren't going to work. The

Gemini app is absolutely fantastic. I've

been using Gemini app. It's as good or

better than ChatGPT.

you do J trade Google shares? I I J

trade some shares, yes. [ __ ] God damn

it.

traded some Google shares.

Also, Waymo, also delightful. And, you

know, they had a rough year with some of

that woke imagery in

Gemini, but I think they had a great

rebound.

Waymo's a really good story. Yeah, I

think Waymo felt like it's like, what is

that business a year and a half ago, 2

years ago? And I don't know if you I've

been taking Waymos around the city. You

don't do you come to the city?

My sister and my brother-in-law are

visiting this weekend.

There they are. Hey, how you doing,

guys?

And

they took a Waymo yesterday, and I saw

the video. And basically, what you have

is my brother-in-law, who's like totally

blown away.

My sister, who's like cautiously

optimistic. And their two kids, who are

like pinned to the back in fear. Cuz

they're like, who is driving this? And

my And my brother-in-law,

who's who's Indian, he's like, "Don't

worry, there are people like us

somewhere driving this car."

Okay.

Let's Let's go to politics, Sax. Here's

your red meat. I can't imagine who you

have as your political winner, but I

know you probably struggled over this

one. This one's pretty obvious. It's the

the man who won the White House uh

He actually he not only won the White

House, he won the House, he won the

Senate, he won the popular vote, and he

overcame a hostile media. He overcame

two assassination attempts, one that

missed him by millimeters. So, my

biggest political winner for the year is

Donald Trump. Okay, there it is, folks.

Biggest winner.

Wow, you just glow when you mention DJT,

they're just glowing.

We don't even need to like the stage.

When we say DJT, it's like a fusion

reactor. Chamath,

who is your biggest

political winner for 2024?

My biggest And listen to this very

carefully, folks.

My biggest political winner of 2024

is David [ __ ] Sacks.

Let's go,

David Sacks! [ __ ] yeah! Nicely done.

All right.

Um

Say more. Say more. Well, I said this

before, but I'll say it again.

I I've never seen a team of people

assembled in any government

um like this.

And I really do mean what I say. This is

really the best of everything that

happens. A guy that

has

emigrated,

okay?

A guy that's

worked his ass off.

He's done it in many different places,

in many different ways. He's an amazing

friend. And he's [ __ ] brilliant.

And we need brilliant people. Yeah, way

to go. Did you have a

political winner there, uh Friedberg? I

know you don't talk too much about

politics.

I went Well, I went with independent

media. I think that it totally reinvent

Everyone talks about this, but it had

such a huge impact in changing the

narrative, getting new messages out

there that were being filtered or

distracted away in other contexts. So, I

thought that was the biggest winner. And

everyone's talking about the legacy

media anchors all leaving and moving to

independent uh podcasting platforms and

so on. So, that was the biggest winner,

I thought. All right. I picked the

PayPal mafia, yourself included, of

course, Sax, but Peter Thiel, JD, and

Elon, obviously.

The whole group I think really did a

great thing. Now, whether you are a fan

of Donald Trump's or not, if you're left

or right, I feel really great that you

guys are around Donald Trump, and I feel

really optimistic and great energy for

the country. Uh so, the fact that the

PayPal mafia is there, yourself

included, Sax, makes me feel really

great about the next 4 years. And I'm so

proud uh that you're doing this. And

it's a great sacrifice for your country.

You could use these cycles for your own

benefit, and you're using these cycles

for the benefit of America and humanity.

And I think that deserves a big round of

applause.

Okay.

Thank you.

Well, you know, one thing I'll say is

Chamath and I uh co-hosted the um the

dinner for President Trump.

It was on June 6th of this past year. I

remember that because it was D-Day. I

thought that was somehow significant.

But they asked me if um if I would be

willing to host a a fundraiser for

President Trump.

And I said, "Well, how much do we need

to raise?"

And they said, "Well, at a minimum, 5

million."

And I didn't I thought maybe that's a

hard number to raise because there's not

that many Republicans in San Francisco.

So, the first call I made was to this

man, Chamath, and I said, "Would you

co-host this with me?"

Because I figured, okay, well, if nobody

shows up, Chamath and I can just split

it. And uh

You dollar cost averaged

Yeah. your

fundraiser? That's so bad. You dollar

cost averaged. So, I knew I knew he

could pick up the check with me. It was

uh

So, in any event, it was a big ask for

from Chamath because Chamath had never

supported Republicans before. Obviously,

I've been a crazy right-winger from way

back, but Chamath had had only supported

Democrats, and he said he was in.

And he decided to co-host it with me.

And so, based on that, I told him,

"Okay, we're in. We can do this." And

then it turns out that more and more

people wanted to come

because we showed some conviction. So,

then we had 8 million committed, then 10

million committed, then we ended up

raising 12 million that night.

13, I thought.

13 then 13. Well, we got another million

on top of it. So, we ended up raising 13

million that night. So, yeah. But it

wouldn't have happened unless he decided

to co-host it with me. So, thank you,

Chamath.

Um political losers, who do we got?

I mean, I I know this is a tough one,

too. I I've already said this, so this

is going to be repetitive, but it is of

It's the thing that disappointed me the

most

personally. Uh I think the biggest

political loser was Barack Obama.

It's the same thing where there were so

many of us that literally would have

stood in line for hours to just shake

his hand.

I guess I just revered the idea

of who he was.

And then

I just saw a person that was reduced to

honestly, not telling the truth.

And doing it repeatedly and repeatedly.

And it just lost a tremendous amount of

cachet that I had for him, and the

sensation that I had of who he was as a

man.

Uh who do you got, Friedberg? Biggest

loser? Uh it's been said. I just went

with legacy media. And what do you So,

my biggest political loser was lawfare.

I thought lawfare was the biggest loser

because not only did it not work, it

backfired. It backfired. Remember?

Yeah, exactly. Um you remember, they

started the lawfare right when the

Republican primary started. And I think

Donald Trump would have won it anyway,

but once they started these sham trials,

they tried to bankrupt him, they went

after his kids, they tried to imprison

him,

Republican uh support shot through the

roof, and he won the primary easily. And

then they did the same thing in the

general, and it activated and sort of

radicalized a lot of people, including

myself, because it was so un-American to

try and imprison your political

opponent. So, I think it massively

backfired, and of course it wasn't just

against Trump, it was also against Elon,

too.

Well, where did that get him? They

turned Elon from someone who identified

formerly as a Democrat or an independent

to someone who became a Republican. So,

it was not only Not only did it not

work, it basically did the had the exact

opposite effect of what they intended.

Yeah, I I picked the um

I picked Biden and the Democratic

machine as my biggest loser for obvious

reasons, and as we talked about on the

pod,

gosh, it was so obvious that they were

covering up Biden's cognitive decline.

And we're all sadly going to be in

decline at some point in our lives, and

that should be something where that

person is supported and not abused in

the way he was abused. I I felt it was

elder abuse. We make that as a joke, and

then not running a speed primary, and

that's when for me, a left-leaning

moderate, I I felt like I can't support

this if you don't actually have a

primary process, and I think they

destroyed the party, and it just has to

be rebuilt from the bottom up. Uh it was

a disaster, and

um I'm super disappointed, like many

people, in their thuggy and criminal

type behavior. I felt it was really low

ethics, and um I'm I'm not happy about

it.

Okay, let's go political surprises.

Political surprises, anybody have a

surprise? Chamath, you look like you got

one ready to go. My political surprise

is

J.D. Vance.

Um

I don't think

if this works out properly, there will

be

a Republican party the way that you

normally knew it. I think it is a MAGA

party.

And I think that J.D. Vance

has the potential to become the

standard-bearer

past Trump. So, that baton pass

I think has the best potential. And what

I'll tell you about him as a person is

this is a guy, if you have a chance, he

will be here a lot, I suspect,

especially because of David.

Meet the man,

understand where he's coming from. This

is an incredible human being.

I I really do mean that, folks. And I'm

like a skeptical kind of gen- generally

I'm not super effusive about people.

You're thoughtful about who you would be

friends with.

He's an incredible human being. Yeah.

You got a surprise for us, Friedberg?

What was your surprise this political

season 2024? I listened to the episode

of Pod Save America last week where the

Democratic leadership that ran the the

Harris campaign

uh kind of gave their breakdown on what

happened.

And what struck me the most about the

conversation and the way they talked

about everything was everything was

about some democra- demographic

heuristic. Black males should do this.

White college-educated females should do

that. Everything was broken down to this

like, you are defined by whatever label

we put on you, and we expect that voting

block, and we analyze you as a voting

block as a group, and how you all move

together.

And all of that [ __ ] broke down.

What happened in this election cycle was

a lot of people voted as independently

minded people in a way that I think

broke their brains. They didn't

understand how and why people were

starting to think on their own.

And so,

I don't think anyone anticipated that

going into this year. It's certainly

closely coupled with the rise of

independent media, but individuals

taking choice for not just being

categorized and labeled and bucketed and

told how to vote and what to think and

what to do. People stood up and said,

"I'm going to have my own thoughts on

stuff." And suddenly all of the models

broke. That was the biggest surprise,

and I thought it was like a big sea

change

If you base it in the United States.

Something I think it's a really great

point you're making.

One great thing that could come out of

this is the return to judging people by

their character, their performance,

their actions, as opposed to identity

politics, which is a true dead end in

our society.

I think it's really well said,

Friedberg. Did you have a political

surprise this year, Sachs? Yeah, I would

say building on what you guys said, my

biggest political surprise was that even

in deep blue cities like San Francisco,

the voters rejected the woke left in

favor of more moderate alternatives. So,

here

in San Francisco, we got Daniel Lurie as

mayor.

Uh he was elected, Dean Preston and

Aaron Peskin were defeated. We have a

moderate majority on the board of

supervisors. In Oakland, the leftist

mayor and D- DA got recalled. In LA

County, uh we beat uh George Gascón, who

was a Soros DA.

Statewide, uh Prop 36 passed. This is

the uh proposition to make crime illegal

again.

And uh

And so, even in a deep blue state like

California, you're seeing a return to uh

sanity.

You know, I had a surprise. I was going

to say podcasts, but when I thought

about it, it was obvious to us, and I

think a lot of people that podcasts were

going to play a big role, and it's clear

podcasts um played a big role, but I

want to specifically shout out Friedberg

and our podcast for bringing up the

topic two or three years ago of the

budget deficit and our out-of-control

spending. And you harped on this,

Friedberg.

And

you know, I I thought the election would

be a referendum on Trump's behavior in

the past. I thought it would be a

referendum on abortion and and a woman's

right to choose, and I'm not saying

these aren't important issues,

but now it's turned out that efficiency

of our government and our fiscal

responsibility and what we pass on to

our children is now the most important

issue. I want to pause for a second.

Hallelujah. But

Yeah, and I think it's a big round of

applause for Friedberg because I just

want to pause for a second of how

unpopular that topic was. We said

ourselves on the pod, there is no way

that any politician will ever take this

up because it's too toxic to talk about

cutting spending, you'll never get

elected, etc. And now we're sitting

here, and I think because of you harping

on it, us talking about it, Elon caring

about it, Vivek, who came on the pod,

and he really got passionate about it.

Now we have Doge. And one of the

greatest things that could happen in

this administration, and I would be very

proud, you know, of of your contribution

and the pod's contribution to this, is

if we can just control our spending so

we do not

mortgage our children's future

disastrously. And And this is the most

important thing over the next year or

two. If you don't like Trump and you

didn't vote for him, you can support

Doge, you can support Elon, you can

support having a balanced budget and us

controlling spending.

It is an an issue for all Americans,

truly. All right, this is a hot start.

We got a hot start. Pass me one of those

awards there. Here you go. Here we go.

J Cal's going to invite our first guest

tonight. Look at this. Wow.

This is some serious man love. That's me

and Chamath.

Should we clean up the naughty and nice

list, by the way, off the uh Okay.

ergonomic representation of uh me and

Chamath hugging it out.

It's not easy to give a hug like that

when you're on the spectrum, is it,

Sachs? Not not easy.

But you got through it. Um

so, it's it's a strength for him.

Tonight, I'm very proud

to give the award

for setting the most money on fire in

pursuit of a failed campaign

to the one, the only Aaron Levie, friend

of the pod from Box. Welcome, Aaron

Levie.

This is a very very special

Wow, I got Yeah.

Okay.

Uh I have no idea why I said yes to

this. So, um also, what the hell is this

thing? Um

I think this is the closest I'll ever

get to speaking at the Republican

National Convention, so um

So, thank you.

Good to be here.

I have a couple I have a couple notes.

So,

first of all, why didn't Mark Cuban or

Vinod Khosla accept this? Why is this

me? Why I don't I don't understand

what happened here. Vinod doesn't have a

sense of humor.

Okay, okay. So, um

All right, so yes, uh

we did waste a little bit of money on

this campaign, but um but

it went to the Vegas Sphere. So, did you

see the Sphere and how well that was the

the campaign use that money? So,

I decided to do a little bit of a

postmortem, so we called the campaign

and talked to Kamala uh just to you

know, understand afterwards, you know,

what the reaction was.

Her response uh stood out to me,

actually, pretty profoundly. So, I I

actually wrote it down. I wanted to make

sure I got it kind of word for word. She

She said, and I quote, "I'm in the arena

trying stuff.

S-

Some will work,

some won't,

but always learning."

And you know,

I I actually felt like that was a really

good and profound way to to think about

the campaign.

So, I left I left a lot better after

after hearing that. So,

now I do want to

congratulate David Sachs. Um

obviously, on his new role in the

administration, pretty incredible.

Uh the the PayPal mafia takeover of the

government is now complete. So, so good

work on that.

Um

You know, I was getting worried,

actually. So, so they told me about this

actually like three or four days ago,

changed the whole plan, obviously,

midway. N- Nothing nothing about what is

going on right now was was the plan.

Um but I was you know, I had to kind of

say a couple lines about each person,

and and so David, I was getting worried

about because I didn't you know sort of

I've been worried for David because I

didn't know what he would do given Trump

promised to end the war in Ukraine. Like

what else is David going to talk about?

So,

you know I've I've known David's views

on the the you know the the war in

Ukraine.

Um but I actually didn't know that that

uh it was so serious that you become a

czar. I mean that's that's pretty

that's pretty impressive.

Now, what's cool about David's new role

leading the Council of Advisors for

Science and Technology is you can kind

of think about him as like the IT guy of

the government now. So,

so if you have any issues with the DMV

website, he is

he's your guy.

And you also have the benefit of being

the crypto czar. So, I think if you

could just let us know at some point in

the conversation, what do you think the

price target is on the Hawk 2 coin? Like

where are we

where are we headed with this?

Um now,

David works in the government, which

means we have an inside track for some

of the

the besties.

Um which I think it'll be pretty helpful

for various positions in the in the

cabinet. Um and I know there's already a

pick for this one, but if a position

happens that opens up for Transportation

Secretary,

maybe you could let them know that Jason

was the first investor in Uber.

And

and I feel like that would make him an

expert in this in this topic. Third or

fourth, I think actually.

I was just going off of Wikipedia. So,

um

so

I changed it today in in anticipation.

Now, unfortunately, Jason's probably

disqualified uh for for the cabinet

because someone is actually even more

woke than me.

This guy loves masks more than Anthony

Fauci. Uh he once

he once tweeted

and I actually want to be very clear

about this. This was in October of 2021.

He once tweeted not to be a narc, but

half the folks are not wearing masks at

the Staples Center right now.

#superspreader

I I added the hashtag, sorry. Um

okay. And uh speaking of COVID, we're

going to bring it home now.

Um

Friedberg,

I know this situation must be very

difficult for you with RFK, you know,

Jr. coming on board.

Everyone knows about preppers building

out bunkers in case of disaster, right?

You you sort of you everybody talks

about these kind of preppers.

Friedberg's bunker looks a little bit

different than everybody else's right

now. You know, usually you want to stock

up on ammo, cans of beans, etc. For

Friedberg, it's

obviously quinoa, but but uh

he has one of every vaccine, tons of

pesticides, and a lifetime supply of

fluoride packed away.

So, we're we're getting ready for

anything that that could come next in

this government. Anyway, in all

seriousness, thanks for this incredible

honor.

Uh

whatever this thing is. I'm at I'm

extremely

extremely optimistic for the path ahead

in America. We have a lot we can get

done. So, excited for that. Let's do it.

Thank you. Have a seat. Join us. Uh give

it up everybody for Aaron Levie. Well

done.

us.

All right.

All right. Come join us. I

All right. Aaron's going to hang out and

do the next couple of awards with us.

I just want to say that Aaron is my

favorite white dude for Harris.

All right. The the official line is beta

male for Harris. That was uh you got you

you got that wrong. I'll let Mark Cuban

know he's number two.

You know you know I just realized I was

the series B investor in both of your

companies. Wow.

You know,

it's incredible that that David Sacks

blew off the the the typical ceiling

that you have being a B2B SaaS founder.

So, this is this is this means we have

something we can now strive for. So,

this is uh this is incredible.

All right. We're going to do another set

of awards here. Let's get this back on

track.

but can we be There was it was pretty

cool though that the literal upcoming

president of America mentioned Yammer in

a tweet. I mean that is

that is that is actually pretty cool.

That was pretty great. Yeah. I was

surprised you didn't get a genie mention

in there. So, it's a deep pull. Let's go

over to our next set of awards. This

first one is best CEO not named Elon

Musk. So, this is our yearly award for

the best CEO named not named Elon Musk.

What do you got, Friedberg? Jensen.

Jensen. An obvious one.

Well, it's not I mean everyone knows the

numbers. What else is there to say?

Okay.

guy has been compounding. And the crazy

thing about compounding is if you zoom

out at the end, everything looks pretty

slow and flat and steady for a while

until the end. And uh he's built so many

advantages into that business and it's

finally paying off. The macro was right,

technology advantage, everything. It's

just extraordinary patience, diligence,

execution. Okay, best CEO not named Elon

Musk. What do you got? Chamath. Dave

Ricks, the CEO of Eli Lilly.

Okay.

Managed to build a billion-dollar

company and is just ripping. Seems

unstoppable. Sacks, who's your best CEO

not named Elon Musk?

Well, I mean Friedberg's right if you

look at the Mag 7, uh Jensen had the

best performance, but since that one was

taken,

the number two actually was Mark

Zuckerberg. You know, he's 5x. Hold on.

He's been sneaky creeping up there. I

mean,

if you look at Facebook's performance or

Meta's performance over the last two

years, it's up 500%.

So, it has done surprisingly well. And I

I will give him credit for back in

August, he wrote a letter basically

apologizing for the censorship that Meta

had done and exposing

the uh the government's role and the

FBI's role in the whole Hunter Biden

cover-up, which he did not have to do at

that point in time. It was not clear

yet. It was not clear yet that Trump was

going to win the election. So, I think

he deserves a little bit of credit for

basically for wanting to do the right

thing on on free speech.

But in all honesty, how long did you

make him wait to meet with Donald Trump

at Mar-a-Lago last week? How long was

the wait? Did you put an extra hour on

the wait? Okay. Did you have a best CEO

not named Elon Musk, Aaron Levie? Uh I'm

actually going to uh steal uh Sacks's um

Zuck um uh for a very different kind of

reason, but uh I think Zuck is our

counter-pressure on the price of AI

right now.

And um I think that uh he he has a way

of monetizing AI that is I mean Google

kind of has a similar thing, but they're

they have a more existential challenge

that I think they're actually doing

relatively well uh kind of dealing with,

but Zuck just to improve ads can give

away AI for the world and and keep

everybody on their toes in terms of

driving down the price. So, I think

that's good for all of us. All right.

Well done. I also had Jensen for obvious

reasons. Let's go with best investor.

Who's your The Nvidia crowd here is

great. Just sponsor the show next year,

guys.

You could be in the VIP. You can afford

it. I don't know why you guys are in

section Z.

Unbelievable. Maybe they're frugal. I

guess Jensen's checking those expense

accounts. Who do you got

as your best investor, Friedberg?

I just gave the best investor to the

best public trade of the year, which was

Druckenmiller when he shorted

Treasuries, told everyone inflation is

not under control yet. We still have a

ways to go. No one was listening. He

shorted Treasuries. We don't know what

the actual ins and outs were, but he has

an incredible ability to be so very

prescient, very public, very like direct

when he has big bets, and be right. Um

even if it is just a trade, I don't know

what net returns are, etc., but man,

that guy just when he when he talks, you

got to listen.

Chamath,

who's the best investor of 2024 in your

mind besides yourself?

I was going to say me, but we know.

Uh I I'd give it to Michael Saylor.

I think that Woah! Bitcoin maxi in the

back.

he's found this incredible he's an

investor. I mean, he's he's the

executive chairman of MicroStrategy, so

he's not really involved in the

day-to-day. He's really running their

Bitcoin position, and he's created this

massively levered long

Bitcoin play.

He's borrowing money at essentially

zero.

It's uh his returns are bananas right

now. What could go wrong?

Uh Sacks,

who is your best investor? Uh I had

Druckenmiller as well for a similar

reason, which is it wasn't just the

Treasury bet, it's the fact that he's

been warning for years that the US

fiscal situation is unsustainable. And

in a way, he's like the investor version

of Doge. He's basically saying, "If we

don't fix this, we're going to have a

huge huge problem."

Aaron, do you have a best investor for

2024 you can share? I think the um

uh I think the solo GP uh kind of

cohort, but uh Nat and and Daniel uh so

Nat Friedman, Daniel Gross are they're

quietly building probably one of the

most powerful AI portfolios um that uh

that that we're going to see kind of

play out. So, they were they were first

in line in this wave, and um and I think

they're uh they're on top of it. Okay,

obviously an LP in the firm. Um and so

I'm going to go with uh Peter I'm just

taking a guess, an educated one. Um best

investor for me was Peter Thiel, but on

two tracks. Obviously, Peter's been in

some of the great companies through

Founders Fund, including SpaceX, but he

also picked Trump, he also picked Vance,

and he also picked Sacks. So, I think

it's undeniable that Peter Thiel is just

a great picker, hands down, one of the

greatest investors, whether it's in

people, politics, uh or businesses. So,

I give it to Peter Thiel. Uh let's do

our best new product best new product of

2024. Aaron, I'm going to start with you

this time. Do you have a best new

product that you launched at Box? Uh we

we do, um but I'll exclude our ourselves

from this, but the um

but I I think the the of voice AI um I'm

most compelled by right now as as sort

of the 2024 kind of you can see the

semblance of actually you know a new

paradigm for for mobile.

We've kind of had the same thing on

mobile for 20 years and

so the ability to actually

you know in a high quality way talk to

your phone have it do something. I think

is you're starting to see signs the

latest version of Gemini is just

incredibly powerful perplexity has very

good work here in chat GPT advanced

voice mode. So I think you're going to

start to see this shape kind of

computing in in the next couple years.

Sacks any new products this year that

captured your imagination? Yeah I think

this is the year that self-driving

finally broke through obviously Tesla's

got full self-driving but also this

Waymo one app people are going wild over

it so I think this is the year that

self-driving broke through and I think

next year is going to get bigger and

bigger. Chamath best new product this

year.

I'll pick the 2024

King's Cashmere collection from Loro

Piana.

It was that was my number two.

Exceptional like a baby's foreskin. Okay

I think um

I just got a message that Loro Piana

made a big drop off at your house okay.

Unbelievable I would just like to say

the best new product of the year is

anything Tom Ford made so I'd like to

pander as well.

What do you got Friedberg? I was I was

with Aaron I think advanced voice AI is

a game-changing new UX it's going to

change computing and it's weird when you

start using it you can have a dialogue

learn something you never thought you

could learn and just ask questions and

engage like you're speaking to your own

personal tutor it's incredible. Okay

well very interestingly we have two

people talking about voice AI and Sacks

I was with you I think this is the year

that self-driving is actually

manifesting across nine different

companies the companies in China there's

six or seven of them actually active as

well as obviously Waymo and FSD 12.x has

been really a major upgrade so I went

with self-driving so

that's our amazing cohort let's give it

up for Mr. Aaron Levie very well.

Thank you.

Here's your chart we had this great

moment of hourly earnings growth going

up so how much people make on average

you're probably wondering why I look so

bored. I mean honestly I want these

[ __ ] to stop blabbering on pass me

the ball and get the [ __ ] out of the

way.

The wine is delicious by the way if only

we could do an episode my way.

Hey everybody welcome to the All-In

podcast for the first time ever I

Chamath

the dictator

am moderating I've replaced the besties

with a couple of special guests. We

literally have three of the world's

greatest minds

and bodies on the show.

First up let me welcome one of Silicon

Valley's most legendary investors.

Chamath

Thanks Chamath. By the way that is a

beautiful sweater.

Okay but let's cut the [ __ ] and let's

get right into the show because honestly

this could be the best episode ever.

You're right Chamath we're going to

start with markets today because we also

have one of the greatest public market

prognosticators in the world what is

going on with the economy.

Chamath Great question Chamath. Well

look I think the US economy honestly is

a tightly coiled spring the future looks

unbelievably bright.

Or we're in a recession. My gosh I

couldn't have said it better myself.

Okay guys let's get into science corner

next we have another brilliant mind on

the show technically incredible a

scientific genius tell us what you've

made Chamath.

Well I'm really excited to hear that my

new company Schmo Schmallow

has come up with a new way to grow

perfect grapes in any weather.

So now every grape

can produce

a 1992 Chateau Latour. What?

That's incredible can I invest a billion

dollars?

Well we're going to have to see about

that Chamath. Wow guys this really is

the best episode ever orgasmic.

Wow.

Wow.

All right we're going to move on.

I would watch that

our second in-person award

that show I want to see that.

Our second in-person award winner of the

night the award for second best Boateng

sister please welcome Alex Boateng.

All right friend of the pod.

Can you guys hear me?

Well good cuz I have some awards to give

out as well.

Oh. Oh no.

Chamath congratulations on the most

likely to think of Elon when making

love.

Do you guys remember when Chamath was

posting thirst traps on Twitter? Imagine

being a billionaire so annoying that you

still need a six-pack to get laid.

Next up please join me in saluting

America's first czar.

All hail Sacks.

Congratulations on no longer being the

least successful of the PayPal mafia.

Ooh that one that one stung.

It's good to see J Cal laughing I'm

surprised you showed your face tonight

after Palmer Lucky annihilated you last

summit.

Congratulations on proving that

ass-kissing can be a career.

This year you win most investments least

exits award. Thank you thank you.

Okay guys this next one is a little bit

spicy.

J Cal gets pegged by the VC industrial

complex and each time he whimpers Uber

as his safe word.

And last but not least David Friedberg

the human equivalent of Soylent.

Chamath likes that. Friedberg definitely

got bullied all his life but lucky for

him being autistic is now trendy.

But hey I got to give credit where it's

due Friedberg thank you for making the

world a better place

for Monsanto shareholders.

Thank you very much everyone I'm Alex

Boateng. Okay thank you Alex Boateng.

All right.

Wow. Um well you know let's do our

congratulations welcome back to the

stage. Thank you for having me. It's

great to see you.

Last time you were here you beat three

of four of us at the same time playing

chess. Two of four. Two of four and

what?

She had a push with one of you at summit

or ran out of time? I blundered the

queen but I won on time.

Okay you won on time.

really give it to myself credit.

Okay um how much have you been thinking

about your defeat by Sacks over the last

six months? Clearly a lot after that

roast. Yes it explains a lot explains

not that you're competitive. You know we

have some

amazing awards to give let's go with our

favorite media favorite media of 2024

did you have a favorite media pick

Sacks? Well it's got to be podcasts and

I don't just mean our own I like pretty

much all I watch these days are just

podcasts you know so I never watch any

network TV

a specific one that comes to mind?

Well if It begins with a T.

If I can only pick one that's not us

there's a podcast called The Duran that

I like a lot on international affairs so

check that one out.

deep pool Tucker's going to be

brokenhearted

Chamath favorite media 2024.

This is

the director's a friend of ours his name

is Francesco Carrozzini. The show is

called Supersex on Netflix.

It is about the life of the Italian porn

star Rocco Siffredi.

It's phenomenal.

It builds there's drama it's about his

life as a kid it's his relationship with

his mom his relationship with his older

brother.

It's really good. Supersex on Netflix.

Okay so Chamath just picked Pornhub for

his favorite media.

Great

deep pool

so to speak Friedberg Dune two.

Come on. It was unbelievable I did not

think that Dune two could beat Dune.

It

black I mean you saw you're a little

Don't act like you're not a nerd on

cinema right now. You can't do that.

Dune two was pretty great pretty

amazing. You know I wanted to come up

with something a little bit more recent

so I went with Day of the Jackal it's a

new show based on the 1970s I just

watched episode eight Nadan and I

watched it before we came up. Good.

Great episode eight have you seen

episode eight?

I watched episode eight yes it's great.

Awesome phenomenal. Uh so I just you

know great poll um

Alex what do you got any favorite media

for 2024?

Hawk Tuah but listen up not what she did

with the meme coin but I've never seen

anybody ride her 15 seconds of stardom

the way she was able to do especially

when it's so hard to become viral across

all platforms nowadays. Yeah, like top

like it was like a top 10 podcast for a

couple weeks, right? Like Yeah, I think

she peaked at number three. Yeah, it is

pretty incredible. Inside story.

The week Hotties happened, we were going

to have her on the pod. Sachs and I were

like, yeah, great poll. We should do it.

And guess who spiked it? Not Chamath.

We could have had Hotties on the pod to

talk about Ukraine, to talk about

Kamala.

I mean, the world needed to know her

take. Let's let's right after imagine

right after that clip comes out. Let's

have a bunch of guys talk to her and be

like, yeah, what do you think and not

look like a bunch of creepers. That

would have been a terrible idea. I still

stand by the strike. Your editorial

instincts remain terrible. Um

Sachs, best startup of the year?

I'm just going to use this to promote my

own thing. Is that okay?

So, Glue. I go Glue, of course.

Fantastic. Chamath, do you have a best

startup of the year?

I'm going to go with Ohalo.

Oh.

Wait a second. I want I want

grapes the size of my balls.

I want strawberries Hold on. I want

strawberries the size of women's boobs.

I want potatoes the size of butt cheeks.

It's going to be fabulous. The world's

going to be incredible. But you have not

None of us

Kidding aside, I do I do think what

Freeberg is doing is bananas.

But true story, none of us have been

able to wet our beaks in Ohalo yet. None

of us except Founders Fund.

No, he offers us a chance to invest

every time a round is closed and a new

valuation is set. Unbelievable. With

friends like this,

Freeberg, would you like to commit at

getting us all in? Say 80 90. And Glue.

I mean, I got it's tied.

But I will say

we've obviously talked a lot about the

thesis behind 80 90. I'm an investor,

you're an investor.

Um but I put Anduril as my winner

because Yeah, friend of the pod, Palmer

Lucky.

I will say like just just just talking

about the collapse of Boeing, the new

administration, and the number of people

that are around Anduril that are also

now the around the administration

creating a merit-based system for

defense spending to kind of upgrade

systems and strategies in defense, it's

inevitable. If you look at what China's

doing, the US is going to have to

respond accordingly. He's like He's like

another one of these crazy people, which

is like, how does he go from building a

VR headset to Well, he also made this

game system called Chromatic.

He's incredible. The guy's a genius. But

I mean, the whole the whole business is

set up with just a great group of

investors. It's perfectly aligned. The

macro is right. I I just think that

that's going to be the next Boeing.

Yeah, it's of the moment. What do you

got, Alex? Do you have a great a great

favorite startup? I like Anthropic cuz I

like Claude a lot.

And also

I'm not going to say OpenAI cuz I don't

know what they're going to do with all

the rumors lately, but I do use ChatGPT

even more. Okay, well done. And I picked

Athena, one of our great investments

this year that has tripled revenue. I'm

very proud of the team over there.

Let's go with biggest flop. Do you have

a biggest flop, Chamath, this year?

Okay, this is going to be a

controversial take.

I think the biggest

flop Not I don't want to say it's a

flop, but I think the biggest

disappointment of this year to me was

OpenAI. I'll tell you why. I think they

are the most at risk

mostly because of things that are out of

their control.

So, number one, I think the quality of

these models

have hit a wall

and it's the folks that own

private information, for example, what

Elon owns through X,

that is going to make the game changer

in the quality of the models. Two,

he's actually

bought now not just the largest Nvidia

cluster, but he's promised to buy

900,000 more. Do you know what happens

when you buy 100,000 and then buy

promise to buy 900,000?

Not only are you at the front of the

line, you consume Nvidia's attention.

And what that means is it's going to be

so hard for everybody else

to get a hold of what they need to

train. I think it's a

a very tricky situation for those guys.

Sachs, you got a biggest flop for the

year? Biggest flop?

My biggest flop was the self-declared

knucklehead Tim Walz Oh. from uh

Minnesota.

Yeah. Freeberg?

Uh Apple Vision Pro.

Apple Vision Pro?

Yeah, I think it's a great start. It

feels like the Apple Newton. It's

definitely going to usher in kind of a

new computing platform, but it's

definitely not primetime ready

as we saw with the sales, but

Alex, did you have a biggest flop for

the year? The Netflix cover of the Jake

Paul Mike Tyson fight. It was their

first

Oh, yeah.

Good call. Good call.

That was a good one, yeah.

Yeah, it was their first foray into live

sports and they just couldn't keep up

with the streaming capabilities and then

they got hit with a $50 million lawsuit.

did you Do you think it was fake?

Do I think it was fake?

I don't think so. I think Mike Tyson

actually needed the money and that's

probably why he fought.

But you think he tried fully? Like he

went I think he tried his best. Yeah. I

I I will Doesn't Doesn't your sister

box?

Doesn't your sister do boxing? My sister

does box, yeah. But tonight she'll be

DJing at the afterparty. She'll be

kicking ass on the ones and the twos.

You know, Friedberg used to DJ in

college. I heard Friedberg used to rave

actually. Is that true? Yes. Friedberg

used to drop the beat.

Yes.

Um my biggest It doesn't get old. I

mean, what do I say?

My biggest flop was Boeing's Starliner

embarrassment. I mean, if you bring

astronauts up to the space station,

you're kind of obligated to get them

back down.

That's true. Yeah. That That's I can't

think of anything worse than that.

That's a great That's a great call

actually. Okay. Thank you, Alex, for

joining us.

Alex Botaz. Well done. Big round of

applause for Alex Friend of the Pod,

Alex Botaz.

Thank you.

All right, we have one more award to do.

Two more awards. Two more awards.

Um All right, here we go.

Uh the biggest sports story and the

moment of the year. Biggest sports

story.

Little sports in here and then the

moment of the year. Chamath, do you have

the biggest

sports story of the year?

Uh I think it's

Bronny James playing with his dad,

LeBron.

Uh I think it was an incredible moment

and I think LeBron deserves it for

everything he's done for the NBA.

All right, well done. Uh what about you,

Sachs? Do you have a best sport I know I

know you're not physically active at

all, but

do

Do you have a sports

Well, I think the the biggest sports

story of the year was the Olympics and

really the memes that came out of the I

didn't really watch the Olympics. I just

saw the memes. Yeah.

That's what I was in it for.

And you know, we had the that trans last

supper. There was the

that sort of that shooter from Turkey,

you know, and uh

the pole vaulter.

The pole vaulter, yeah.

Yeah, Chamath. Yeah. He was moonlighting

as the pole vaulter. That's what I

remember. That's what I remember.

That's what I remember. Pole vaulter was

pretty depressing. Freeberg?

I went with Australian hip hop at the

Olympics. Australian hip hop at the

Olympics?

But I I do think that that that that

moment really kind of showed everyone

how ridiculous things had gotten.

Um and it it was like at least in

certain circles, it felt very resonant

of like a broader set of things that

were happening and everyone was like,

how is this an Olympic sport? How is

this happening? And it made a lot of

people start to question the sanity of a

lot of the institutions around us and

things that were going on. Yeah, and I

too thought the biggest moment in sports

was at the Olympics and just gender in

sports generally as a topic, which we're

going to need to get through as a

society where we have not only uh

transgender individuals, but intersex

folks. We need to work this issue out in

good faith and have a I think a

thoughtful dialogue about it

specifically with the boxing and and

some of the other sports. Uh let's go to

our moment of the year. The moment of

the year. I'll I'll kick it off, Sachs.

I thought the moment of the year for me

was not the assassination attempt at

Trump, obviously, but his reaction to

it. When he got up and he pumped his

fist and he said, "Fight, fight, fight."

I think you got an idea of his character

and that he wasn't going to give up.

Um

and uh thank God that he wasn't um hit

by that bullet. Yeah, 100% I mean, that

was mine, too. 100%. That was like the

the moment of the year, the photo of the

year. That's the image we're always

going to remember. Pretty iconic, yeah.

What do you got for the moment of the

year, Chamath?

March 4th, 16th.

It was a Saturday.

It was the greatest sexual encounter of

my life.

I gave Nat an enormous internal O

all by myself.

Wait, wait.

Okay, so wait. The greatest moment of

the year

was a sexual encounter that you had

with my wife. With your wife.

Really? You know, it's interesting. I

think we all got the tsunami warning

when that happened. It was pretty

It was a shattered the whole Bay Area.

Freeberg, um would you like to also pick

the 17 seconds of your latest sexual

encounter?

It was the Trump assassination attempt.

So, all of we had consensus here of what

the most think iconic moment of the year

was. When it happened, I was sitting

outside having beer with a bunch of

people. I remember there was like 12 of

us and we looked around the table and

everyone was like, he just won the

election.

That was it. It was like in that moment

I knew it felt like that was it. So, it

I think it defined the year.

Okay. So, that concludes

all of the amazing awards we've given.

That is That's That's our awards. Do you

want to do a

I don't know. Maybe end with a little

Christmas message.

for, looking forward hope for the next

for the new year and then we'll kind of

Well, you know, it's always a good time

at the end of the year to reflect um on

the pod, on the community, uh and what

we all experienced this year.

Um

obviously a major eventful year. Looking

into next year, maybe what we learned

this year, having just great

conversations

on the pod and off the pod, in the group

chat, at the summit.

Um any reflections on the year that was,

Chamath, and then maybe some hope for

2025.

I'll I'll just remind everybody that we

are the sum of our family and our

friends.

This year you moved away,

which is really heartbreaking.

One of our really great friends in the

poker game has been struggling with a

bunch of very serious health issues.

Um so, it's just a reminder for me that

um

you know, it just goes by really fast. I

feel really lucky to be around you guys.

I feel really lucky that folks like you

exist. Thank you for listening. Um I

love all of you.

Thank you.

Sacks, would you like to try to channel

emotion as we wrap up the show and

reflect on

feelings that might have come up

inside of

that

Me Sack. Yeah, over there.

Well,

Call him a Me Sack? Yeah.

I mean, to be honest, I was starting to

feel really annoyed with you, J Cal, on

the pod.

I wasn't sure how much longer I could

put up with it,

to be perfectly frank, but But you know,

tonight you kind of remind me why it's

fun to do this. Aw, thank you.

And so, yeah, I'm very happy to be here

tonight and be part of this.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, reflecting on it,

um thank you. I too um

am reminded how um absolutely

insufferable it is to talk about Ukraine

every week, um but that I love you and

spending time with you

uh all three of you is uh and debating

this and learning together and growing

as men.

And maybe trying to help and give back.

You know, there's so many positive

things that come out of a good faith

discussion

and you know, we argue, we fight, we

debate, uh but we always come together

every week and we start it all over

again.

And we're We are cantankerous and we're

perfectionists and we really try to make

this a great product uh and we really

care about the audience. And it's just

so wonderful that we didn't quit. I

remember we had that conversation in the

beginning and Chamath was saying like,

you know, how does this become

successful? And I says, it becomes

successful if we just show up every

week. If we just show up every week,

it's going to work and it's going to be

great and you know, here we are going

into year five and I I'm just so happy

that we didn't quit.

Um

and that we kept going forward.

And I hope that we can all do this in 30

or 40 years in diapers in a nursing home

somewhere in Italy. Uh I hope we do this

for the rest of our lives because it's

been such an incredible joy. And man, I

just love the fact that you all come out

and stop us at airports or take a selfie

and tell us what you think of the show.

Friedberg, any thoughts on uh the year

that was and the pod and you know, this

incredible There were many Sacks uh Many

times when I was going to quit the show