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>> Really? Red meat.

>> It's unfortunate. That's just

>> in any form,

>> you know? Like I have I know it's weird.

If I eat a burger,

it's different if I eat a steak.

>> Steak is a problem.

>> Yeah. I don't know if my digestive

system just like you too old to [ __ ]

uh

>> bust this down. I'm 58.

>> I I'm 58 too. I eat mostly meat.

>> I don't think it's age.

>> What is it then?

>> Well, what are you eating it with?

>> Uh Titos. We rolling

>> Titos. Titos.

>> Titos vodka. Well, it can't be that,

right?

>> No. Titos. I'm eating a steak and I wash

I eat a steak and I wash and I wash it

down with Titos and tonic cuz it's it

resembles H2O so much sometime I get

thrown off until I do it.

>> What?

>> Yeah, I think I'm better at

>> Titos and tonic resembles water.

>> The look of it.

>> The look of it.

>> It's clear.

>> That's all matters to you.

>> Yeah, I know. At some point I need to

change I need to change my life. I'm at

the age now that it's like I look at

certain food and I'm like, "Oh my god,

it looks good." But you know, you can't

handle that. I think this is when I

really really need to be in love because

I need to be with somebody that

understands when I go places and when I

want to pick out, they got to be like,

"He can't eat that. He's not going to be

up. He's going to be thrown up." But I

think a female handler they call it

geriatric like they This is what I hear.

>> This is what the streets are saying.

Most men get to a geriatric [ __ ] when

you just smash all the women you want to

do and everything. Now you're going to

have to worry about somebody helping you

with your pill diet, helping you with

your dietary needs and everything. And

they say that's a lot of times when men

fall in love when they need somebody to

take them to the golden ears or when

it's when you about to be out of here.

You need somebody to say don't do that.

You got to mash this food up. You got to

chop it up. But I'm having digestive

issues sometimes

>> with steak. Huh?

>> It's red meat. I want to say and I'm I'm

a fan of it. So you eat if you eat like

a bowl of pasta with the Titos, no

problem.

>> That's not a problem.

>> Interesting.

>> But it's definitely red meat. Red meat.

I'm not to one of those doctors that

checks people for allergies.

>> Voodoo doctor.

>> Yeah. You

>> I don't want one of them. I had to date

an Asian. I mean, I had to date a a

Haitian chick.

>> They into voodoo really really big. Oh

yeah. Oh yeah. They stab you with

pillows and [ __ ] You wouldn't have pain

in your neck.

Is there any particular reason, Joe, and

I haven't been here in a while.

>> Is there any particular reason why I am

doing your show during Black History

Month?

>> No. You asked to come on.

>> But but you reached out to me.

>> I reached out to you.

>> I didn't You could have reached out to

me in July. I would have said yes. You

got an open invitation. You know that

>> I have an open invitation. But this is

when I don't know you. I said, "Can I

come through?" You said this is what you

told. You said, "I have a guest." And

then you called back. I don't know if

Jamie said, you know what month this is,

>> right? I don't know if he end. And you

caught me right.

>> I moved somebody. I moved somebody for

you cuz I knew you were coming here on a

Monday. I had someone booked.

>> Was it a Caucasian person?

>> I don't know. I don't remember.

>> I don't remember.

>> You know it was a white man or a black

man? No. You know what

>> DID I GET? DID I BOOK A WHITE PERSON?

>> It might have been Michael J. White cuz

he's here tomorrow.

>> Yeah.

>> So, it was probably Michael. I just

probably moved him a day.

>> But I appreciate dude being

accommodating cuz I felt like it was

time for me to come back. I haven't been

here a while.

>> You can come on anytime.

>> I really appreciate that and you know I

hold that to be true.

>> Come on.

>> I know that's true.

>> You know I love you.

>> Yeah. I want some of that gum, too, man.

I'm sorry.

>> The neuro gum. Do we have any Jamie?

>> I have some. Yeah.

>> Yeah. That stuff's the shoes.

>> I know. Wait. Whenever you say something

is the [ __ ] is the [ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> Well, what can I do about my I can't do

anything about my diet.

>> Sorry. Whoops. I hit the mic. Um Yeah,

you can. you just uh you know, you

should go to a doctor and find out if

there's like there might be something

particularly about you that red meat

doesn't agree with you, but it might

just be what you're eating with the red

meat more than the red meat itself. You

know, that's what I would imagine. I

would imagine it's not actually red

meat. I would imagine it's what you're

eating with it.

>> Might be. and I'm going to check into it

cuz as they say in the streets, I'm of

that big age when you have to be

considerate of a whole bunch of things.

So that's what I have to do. I have to

do that.

>> Do you exercise at all?

>> A little bit. Usually during sexual

intercourse is when I get my most of my

cardio.

>> Get your push-ups in.

>> Yeah. And it's not as strong. Damn, man.

You ever get I don't know if this apply

to everybody. You get to a where you

start looking at your history and you

like damn 2000 was my best years. Like

right now I'll just give up.

>> You give up.

>> I don't put no pressure. I give up. I

start asking like what's your shoe sizes

or whatever. I rather go shopping than

to really try to pound somebody out for

three hours. I'm at that age now where I

have I call it um

certain times like you going to get a

work good.

>> I probably shouldn't have given you that

gum. It's that gum's going to be a real

problem with the microphone.

>> Is it Is it Okay.

>> People People are going to get annoyed

with you. I can tell.

>> All right. I don't know what to do.

>> Just chew it a little and spit it out.

>> Okay.

>> You'll get the effects of it pretty

quickly. Anyway,

>> I'm at the age where my best work is

like holidays.

>> Holidays.

>> Like I'm I'm a animal.

>> Why don't you hire a trainer?

>> You got some money.

>> And what are the trainer going to do?

>> Get you in shape. I think I need a

therapist before I get a trainer.

I mean, you got to take one step at a

time. I got to get my mind right before

I get my body right. Wouldn't you agree?

>> No. The getting your body right will

help get your mind right.

>> I think you there's some truth to that.

I think it I think that you may be right

about that.

>> Oh, 100%. Getting your body right fixes

your mind without a doubt.

>> But I I will say I'm at my best. I'm at

my peak when it's a holiday to celebrate

>> because you're rested.

>> I'm rested. It's more incentive. Like if

you want me to really smash good time,

you consider it like uh uh Valentine's

Day, Christmas,

uh uh Quanza, you can get seven good

days. But to expect me to be at my best

on just a regular Tuesday or a Wednesday

is not going to happen. I need more.

>> That's also drinking. You like to drink.

>> Why would you say that? I know why you

would say that.

>> Come on. I've seen you. All right.

>> I've been with you. I've drank with you.

>> Okay, then that's a good point. All

right.

>> There's cigarettes.

>> You was there.

>> You brought a pack with you,

>> right? There's that. Those those are not

good. Um there's uh

>> But you used to smoke I saw one of your

podcast.

>> I forget how you explained what made you

>> not want to smoke anymore. What was

that?

>> Well, cigarettes are a cognitive

enhancer. They are. It's a fact.

Nicotine is a cognitive enhancer.

There's no doubt about it. It's a fact.

And it does things to to your mind. It

stimulates your mind in a way that very

few other things do. That's why a lot of

intellectuals, a lot of professors use

nicotine. A lot of academics use

nicotine. A lot of people that rely on

their brain use a lot of writers use

nicotine. And there's different delivery

methods that have different effects.

Unfortunately, smoking has a very potent

instantaneous effect. Uh and that's why

people like it. But it comes with a

cost. You know, the the physical health

you know, repercussions of cigarettes

are well known.

>> Yeah.

>> Not good. And also, you're you're

smoking Marros.

>> There's a we had a doctor on the other

day that thinks that Mar lights don't

>> regular cigarettes are not nearly like

American spirits are not nearly as bad

for you

>> as uh

>> I understand they have some type of the

the American spirits. I'm not even like

advocating for what you should shouldn't

smoke, but it's supposed they say that's

supposed to be the most natural if

there's such a thing.

>> It's just tobacco, I believe. Is that a

fact?

>> Nope.

>> No. What's in there besides tobacco?

>> I don't know. I've been trying They got

I don't know how this lawsuit ended up,

but they got sued for the advertising of

saying it's additive free and all that.

>> Oh, did they?

>> Yeah.

>> What What are the additives?

>> I've

said it's on it. I've tried to look. I

mean, there's a big Here's like the

website about the lawsuit.

>> What's the accusation

>> that uh Here you go. It's on the screen.

>> Here we go. Lawsuit questions natural

claims. Natural American Spirit

cigarettes are made by Santa Fe Natural

Tobacco Company and parent company

Reynolds America. RJ Reynolds, they [ __ ]

with you. American Spirits has been sold

in the US since 1985. Her under the

original name original American Spirit

organic Oh, you got us [ __ ] Um,

unadulterated tobacco suit claims such

marketing language has endeared American

spirit cigarettes to a core group of

smokers who believe that the natural

tobacco and the cigarette makes them a

healthier alternative. Despite cigarette

sales declining 17% between 2009 2014,

American Spirit sales have increased 86%

over the same period. Huzzah. Uh, a

regulatory filing on the Reynolds

American website states American Spirit

is the leading super premium cigarette

brand that is a top 10 bestselling

cigarette brand priced higher than most

other competitive brands and is

differentiated from key competitors

through its use of all naturatural

additive free tobacco including styles

made with organic tobacco. But words

like all natural and additive free

unamerican spirits labeling the suit

says belies the fact that Santa Fe

Reynolds adds ammonia to their

cigarettes to maximize the amount of

nicotine a smoker receives with the

result that American spirits contain

significantly more freebased nicotine

than other major cigarette brands.

>> So you're actually getting high off of

cigarettes?

>> 100%. I get high off of them because I

don't smoke them all the time. So, I

only smoke if if I smoke a couple

cigarettes a week, it's a lot.

>> And Newport's probably like 10 times

worse than uh menthol cigarettes

probably 10 times worse to for your

body.

>> I was talking to Cat about that. I was

Yeah, I was asking him like why why do

you like menthols and he's like he was

speaking on behalf of the black

community. He said we like things that

are more potent.

I believe that that's possible part of

it, but I also believe that back in the

day and this apply I don't know if I

talked about this. It was certain brands

that targeted certain communities just

for the loyalty of it. Yeah. And I think

Newport's was targeting I don't know if

it was a situation where Newport came

out,

>> they was spending more ad money with

advertising everything cuz I I don't

know if I shared this story with you,

but

>> um uh Pepsi was a company that did that

where they targeted the black community.

So I think even though I understand we

said more potent but I think it was

something that was in our community

whether that was like cheaper prices or

whatever and I think it's generation and

generations like you need to do this

because black people did this because it

was cheaper what I think that that might

be the case with Newport.

>> Yeah probably both. What is the the

menthol effect? What what is the what is

the difference in the

>> I know when I smoke menthol I I sound

like cat whims the next day they ruined

that's one of the reasons I had to

downgrade to like some people think that

I started smoking marbell lights cuz I

started dating white women which is more

appealing unless you date a white woman

from the Midwest she probably smoking

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>> So, menthol cigarettes appeal to black

people because it's a cool cigarette.

>> It's cool.

>> That's what makes so much sense why the

brand cool cigarette cuz it makes it

that makes sense,

>> right? That's why they called it cool, I

bet.

>> Damn. What white people do to destroy my

community, man?

>> Destroy everybody. Yeah,

>> they don't give a [ __ ] about anybody.

>> Cool ain't cold.

>> Half ain't wide, body ain't soul, mild

ain't bold. Cool ain't cool. Newport is

Oh, cuz that was like a

>> That makes cools cuz people used to

smoke cools. Do cools exist anymore?

>> In jail?

>> Only in jail? I think that I think I

don't know what the the rat the ratio is

what what cigarette gets you more money

in a dice game but whenever I hear

people telling war stories they like man

I got a pack I got a carton of cools for

a bag of Doritos or something but the

value of a cool cigarette is is is

higher in in prison.

>> Isn't it crazy that they give you

cigarettes in prison?

>> That's crazy. It's like the only drug

you can get in prison.

>> Yeah. And those

>> you can't get alcohol, right?

>> Well, you can get hooch. Well, you can't

get alcohol, but they make their own.

>> It's all under the table.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> But I think in prison the things that

hold the most value, I think it's tang,

>> right? It's that uh artificial flavored

drink you do. I think that

>> astronaut [ __ ]

>> Yep. Cigarettes, Doritos. I heard honey

buns

hold their value. And I heard candy bar.

But candy bars, you got to be particular

with that. you because if you offer,

this is what I hear. If you offer a

person a certain amount of candy bars,

then what I understand is that you're

inviting them to have sexual intercourse

with you.

>> Interesting. Yeah. Candy bars.

>> Yeah. Like you I don't think

>> you want some candy bars and that's like

code.

>> Yeah. It's like pizza gate like pizza.

>> Mr. Good Bar for this good bar. Okay.

>> I think this is only not that I've had

those experiences, Joe, but this is the

times that I frequent the streets, which

aren't anymore. Not too often. These are

the stories that they tell.

>> Interesting.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> And these facts, you don't need them for

anything but for barbershop talk, but

these are the conversations that I have

>> that I've heard people have.

>> It's interesting how different brands

market to different people. And I mean,

how do they figure it out? like what are

they work like the that that's where

it's evil, right? Like advertising

itself I don't have a problem with but I

did I there is something weird about

deceptive advertising that's legal, you

know.

>> Well, they they do a a history on what

uh people like. I was watching or

reading a story about the uh people that

started Forever 21. I forget what the

brand was. There was some Koreans from

South Korea, not to be confused with Kim

Jongun in those people, but they were

tailored or something. They started a

small boutique. And what they would do

was they would have these clothing uh

pieces of clothes and they would really

pay particular attention to what colors

people like, um what was uh selling the

most, whatever, and that's what they

buy. And one of the things that made

Forever 21 so popular cuz they had

really inex the the clothes weren't

expensive, but they was turning them

over so quick, you know. So people do do

case studies and see what people uh

attracted to. I know with um with black

people um you you put lemon pepper on

anything, it's going to go out out the

roof. You could do lemon pepper chicken

wings, lemon pepper French fries,

anything lemon pepper, they gonna go. I

don't know who started the whole lemon

pepper craze, but you lemon pepper

anything, black people gonna buy it.

>> That's interesting. Like how white

people are associated with very bland

foods,

>> you know, macaroni, cheese, mashed

potatoes, mayonnaise.

>> And you know why you're connected with

that blandness? Cuz the way you

pronounced it.

>> Macaroni and cheese.

>> You'd never ever say if you tell

somebody if you say and you would be

able to be invited to the cookout, Joe.

You know, people like you. If if you

say, "Hey guys, I'm coming to the

cookout, right, and I'm bringing

macaroni and cheese." You're going to

get uninvited to the cookout.

>> What? How should I say it?

>> Mac and cheese.

>> Mac and cheese.

>> Yeah. You can't say macaroni and cheese.

Nobody ever does that.

>> Okay.

>> You would They would look at you as a

spy. You would get invited and be

invited.

>> Well, I'm a different type of white

person cuz I'm Italian and we're

associated with spicy food. Very strong

flavors.

Yeah, but it's a different like Italian

people don't like bland food. They like

very spicy, very flavorful food.

>> I'm bringing baked ziti to the barbecue.

You like I'm bringing ziti, right?

>> Yeah, they would say baked ziti. Yeah,

because there's different kinds of ziti.

You know, there's ziti that you bake and

then there's ziti that you just boil and

put, you know, marinara sauce on.

>> There's different. I will say this, as

much as you know, community make fun of

um white people and their lack of

seasoning,

that can save your life.

>> Lack of seasoning can save your life.

How so?

>> When you think about you look at

somebody, one of the most the country uh

uh homecooked soulfood spot, the one

ingredient that's in everything that you

taste right off the rip is salt. How

good is not bad for you at all? It's

awesome.

>> Then why do we think salt is

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>> Salt is an essential mineral. You need

salt to survive. Salt is not the

problem. They associate salt with high

blood pressure, salt with this, salt

with it's not true. It's [ __ ] What

type of salt? Is it a different salt? Is

it like

>> No, it's not. Salt's not bad for you.

Well, first of all, there's iodiz salt,

which is actually good for you because

it contains iodine. They add iodine to

it,

>> which is good for you. But salt is not a

bad thing. I mean, you shouldn't have

too much salt. Salt. If you look, if you

eat enough salt, you can be the

president to educate me with this. So,

all of these years,

>> it's a it's a

>> these people getting their toes chopped

off.

>> That's not why. That's not why. If

you're getting diabetes, it's usually

from sugar.

>> Okay?

>> You know, there's been a lot of

misinformation that's spread because of

actual scientists that were bribed by

the the sugar industry. So, the sugar

industry, they paid a bunch of Harvard

scientists. It was Harvard, right?

>> I believe it was. They didn't even give

them a lot of money. Uh was it the 1950s

or 1960s, Jamie? Do you remember? So,

this has all been outed now, but what

they did was they tried to associate

saturated fat and and foods with

saturated fat with being responsible for

heart disease. And they did that to try

to get the blame off of sugar cuz sugar

is [ __ ] terrible for you. It's

terrible in basically every way,

especially added sugar. So why are all

of these diseases that we speak of are

more more car happening in the black

community than in the white community?

>> It's diet. It's 100%. It's sugarcessed.

It's processed food. It's diet. It's

sugar. It's sugary drinks. It's the

amount of sugar. Like if you say if you

drink like a a a one liter Pepsi, the

amount of sugar that is Okay, let's find

out how much sugar is in a one liter

Pepsi.

If you drink several of these a day, one

of them, I believe, is more sugar than

you're ever supposed to have in a day.

>> Pepsi is the one and that's why

>> Well, it could be Coca-Cola, could be

Pepsi, Mountain Dew. Name your poison.

>> I think it's 100% Pepsi.

>> Well, Pepsi is I don't know. Does Pepsi

have more sugar than Coca-Cola? I don't

know.

>> You know, Coca-Cola is one of the only

things that's still flavored with

cocaine leaf. Uh sugar content 115 123

grams in a one liter bottle. That's a

crazy amount of sugar. 25 teaspoons. 35

sugar cubes.

>> God damn.

>> That's 130% 138% of the recommended

daily value of sugar.

>> That's that's where people are getting

type 2 diabetes. They're getting it from

excess sugar. Specifically

>> excess sugar like in a liquid form. Your

body does not know what the [ __ ] to do

with that cuz nowhere in nature do you

get sugar in a liquid form like that.

Like even orange juice. Like people

think orange juice is good for you. It's

not. Like drinking orange juice. Yeah,

you're going to get some vitamin D, but

you're also going to vitamin C rather,

but you're also going to get a gigantic

dose of sugar that has no fiber in it.

>> But is it a different type of sugar in

fruits and vegetables than what you get

off the counter?

>> You get fructose rather than high

fructose corn syrup. Uh you know, like

sugar from fruit is the best sugar for

you because it's attached to fiber and

that's that's a slow release sugar. Like

if you eat an apple and apples aren't

bad for you. It's a natural way that

your body consumes sugar. But there's

>> apples were bad for Adam.

>> Uh I don't even know if it was an apple.

>> It was a fruit.

>> It was from the tree of knowledge. The

tree of

>> It was an apple.

>> Uh

>> it was an apple,

>> but it wasn't an apple tree. What What

specifically does the Bible refer to as

the fruit?

>> Adam and Eve. Adam,

>> you know the truth?

>> What?

>> Eve never talked to God. Adam talked to

God. Adam told God not to eat the fruit.

There's nowhere in the Bible does it say

that Adam went and told Eve.

>> This is why we should start not just

shutting women down to listening to

them.

>> It all started off

>> Genesis does not specifically specify

rather what kind of fruit Adam ate only

that it calls it fruit from the tree of

knowledge of good and evil. Yeah. So

it's not necessarily an apple. We call

it an apple.

Uh, the text never names the species,

apple, fig, etc. The Hebrew word is

perry, a general term meaning fruit

without a botanical detail. Where the

apple idea came from. Over time, Jewish

and Christian interpreters proposed many

candidates including fig, grape,

pomegranate, citron, and others. Now,

common ideas that an apple developed

later in European tradition helped by

word play in Latin and old French where

the words evil and apple or fruit

sounded or were spelled similarly. So,

it's not necessarily an apple.

>> I really don't know what to believe. I

feel like I get so much more information

when I come here.

>> I don't know if people understand that.

Well, the crazy thing is that I mean I

I've found this out recently because

I've actually been reading the Bible

that the there's no reference whatsoever

to Adam telling Eve you're not supposed

to eat the fruit from the plant uh with

with the knowledge of good and evil.

>> I never knew that.

>> Yeah.

>> I just knew white woman with an apple

and his [ __ ] got [ __ ] up after that.

>> What happened was God created Adam. This

is what Genesis says. God created an

Adam and then told Adam, "Go and name

all the animals." And then when he was

done with that, Adam made Eve,

but he never said, it never says in the

Bible, Adam told Eve, "Do not eat the

apple."

>> Who's giving this us this

misinformation?

>> Well, the problem with the Bible uh is

first of all that it was an oral

tradition forever. So, it was an oral

tradition for a long time before it was

ever written down. that it was written

down in a bunch of ancient languages. It

was written down in ancient Hebrew. It

was written down in Aramaic, Aramaic,

and then when you translate ancient

Hebrew to first they translated to Latin

and then they translated it to Greek and

all these other maybe Greek first. I

forget which one was first, but either

way, the the translations miss a lot of

the the language. It's very complicated.

Ancient Hebrew is a very complicated

language and numbers double as letters

in ancient Hebrew. So ancient Hebrew

doesn't have numbers. All their words

have a numerical value to them.

>> What do you think makes people so

connected

to the Bible? Is it because of wanting

to believe in something?

>> Definitely. definitely wanting to

believe in something and then

specifically if you look at like the

teachings of Jesus Christ if you follow

them I think it'll lead to a better

life. I think it makes you a better

person makes you a better member of the

community. It it it reinforces

community. It's like a really good way

to live your life. So I think people

that live that way that actually live

that way they're better examples of

human beings. So that makes it

reinforced. But it's also people there's

a lot of other religions that people

believe in that don't have those aspects

to them. People want to believe things.

People want to believe in things. Even

if you like like Scientology, people

deeply believe in Scientology. And we

know it was written by a science fiction

author, right?

>> Who was a bad science fiction author.

Elron Huard wrote some terrible books.

Like that guy would just bang books out.

He never rewrote [ __ ] He everything was

a first draft.

just clank. He wrote more fiction than

any human being that's ever lived and he

also wrote Scientology

>> and people believe in it. But I do

believe PE I think people like you say

people want to if your life is [ __ ] or

whatever they want to be able to say

okay this is my savior if I believe in

this it's going to get me on the right

track

>> 100%. And then with that with these like

uh Duski just did a a skit that went

viral, right? And it was like he was

making fun of the mega churches and

everything. But these churches like they

give these people something to believe

in, make them feel better and they

charge people. Do you think that there

should be a separation? If I if I

inspire you, if my writings or my

speeches inspire you to want to do

something and change your life and be uh

more financially secure, do you think

these people entitled to like, okay,

almost like agencies, if I get you to

work or get you there, should you hit me

off or the megaurches, is it so wrong

for people just to pour all their money

into them or are they giving these

people something to believe in? If

that's the case, do I supposed to get a

piece of that? I think they're preying

on people's need to believe in things

and I think they're very predatory and I

think that's why they're flying private

jets and driving Rolls-Royces and living

in mega mansions on giant ranches

>> and they're doing it all off of

donations of people that are barely

getting by. That's a lot of it. You

know, I think it's a scam that's legal.

I think if we were a just and righteous

society, it wouldn't be legal,

>> right? I mean, it's you're taking

advantage of people when they need

something to believe in and you're

asking for all their money. Like I

remember I was watching this guy on TV

once like televangelists are the worst.

And this guy was saying that if you are

broke, you should borrow money to donate

it to the church and it will be paid

back to you tenfold. That God will pay

you back tenfold. And then he had all

these examples of people that did it and

they would call in and say, "I I was

$1,000 in debt and this and that, but I

borrowed $100 and I donated it to you

and now all of a sudden I drive a

Rolls-Royce." And it's all horseshit.

>> But those are all desperate desperate

people. Desperate people. Those are the

same people that I'm going to spend $30

on the lottery every day for like

[ __ ] 50 years and no one know how

much.

>> That's another scam. That's another

scam. Not only is that a scam, here's

the scam about the lottery. Not only

does like say if everyone pumps money

into the lottery, say you you buy $100

worth of tickets and Jamie buys $100

worth of tickets and I buy $100. So

there's $300 in the lottery. There's not

even $300 available

>> if you win. Right.

>> So and then if you win, you don't get

all the money. You get the money over a

long period of time.

>> Right. Right. Right. But if you if you

take the second option, it's a

significantly like here's a good example

of it. Speaking of the Epstein Files,

his

>> What do you mean speaking of

>> company Zoro Trust?

>> I didn't like that transition. You

looked me right in my eyes and said,

"Speaking of the

>> Well, FC, we were talking about it

before the podcast. Came to see you."

>> No, MC did not [ __ ] come.

>> They came They loved your show.

>> Yo,

>> he was your He was a number one fan.

>> First of all, I I've never

>> HE CAME TO YOU DON'T KNOW. LOOK, they

came to West Palm Improv because you're

a famous comedian and you were playing

in the town where he lived.

>> So, what are you saying?

>> Nothing. But what I'm saying is that

>> I'm on I'm actually

>> What I'm saying is Epstein won the

lottery. His company, Zoro Trust, won an

$80 million lottery and then they paid

they they took the payoff and the payoff

was a ticket or you mean with in

corporation?

>> What do you mean when you say

>> they his company bought a ticket for the

lottery? Really? that yes, Zoro Trust,

which is his company, they won the

lottery, which is very suspicious. Not

only that, he won the lottery right

after he was arrested and went to jail

for [ __ ] kids or having sex or

whatever, whatever he was arrested for,

sexual hand jobs, whatever it was. So

underage. No, but when they're underage

girls, probably not.

>> Oh, I didn't know that. But

>> so then when he went um and got the

lottery money, the company took the

payoff the payoff out of an $80 million

payment. the $80 million jackpot was

only 30 million. So if you want the

money, you take 30. So not only did they

take 50 out of the 80, but then you

think about how many people spent money

buying lottery tickets, way more than 80

million.

>> So they make money off of that and then

they make money off of the fact that you

want the payoff instead of the, you

know, the over.

>> So they never could, it doesn't matter

what the jackpot becomes, they never

could lose.

>> They they can't lose. It's stealing

money from people that are desperate.

It's it's legalized gambling where the

house always wins.

>> Like let's find that out. Like uh let's

say

>> let's find uh an average jackpot of mega

bucks and find out how much money

actually goes into it. How much how much

money people spend versus how much money

the payout is.

>> So when this the uh all lots are state

regulated, right? Right.

>> I don't know. I don't know who regulates

them. So they get say they get $100

million from people trying to win a

billion dollars.

>> It's because the state regulate. Do they

do they have to pay taxes to the

government for the money they

>> the lotto? No, it's the state well or

it's the the government owns it. So it's

a it's a whatever the not only that you

pay taxes on it. So say pays taxes.

Yeah. Yeah.

>> So say if you take that $30 million

payout, you don't even get 30 million.

Then you have to pay taxes on that 30

million. So they get money from that

too. So they can't [ __ ] lose.

>> But for a person that's never seen

barely seen $1,000 anywhere, anything

with millionaire, they're going to be

excited about and take it before

>> Exactly. Exactly. And over time, most

people are not going to win. So most

people are dumping money into it.

>> There was a story of a a young lady. I

don't know exactly what it was. I think

she won some type of lottery where they

gave her two options. She would get I

think it was like uh a payout of like 2

or 3 million right up front or they give

her I think it was like $20,000 every

month for as long as she lived.

>> Yeah, that's how they

>> and she did this. Well, people think

that it's kind of crazy, but if you

consider the fact that she was probably

20 21, her life expectancy probably she

was white, so she probably lived to 132.

You know what I'm saying? She looked

like I That was a smart a lot of people

would not understand that. That was a

smart thing. But I I did

>> I don't think it's for the rest of your

life. I think it's until it reaches that

number. I don't think they're going to

give you money for the rest of your

life.

>> Well, maybe I was reading the headline.

>> Maybe it's a different kind of lottery

that I'm not aware of.

>> Maybe. I think it was something as long

as she lives.

>> That sounds crazy.

>> Yeah.

>> All right. Here it is. Typical

Megaillions jackpot run. Total ticket

revenue is usually several times the

advertised jackpot. But there's no

single fixed average because sales vary

enormously with the jackpot size. still

you can get a good ballpark. So around

50% of ticket revenue goes into the

overall prize pool. So the government

makes 50% right off the bat,

>> right?

>> So if it's a hund00 million payout, they

already made a h 100red million. So this

$200 million is what they made. They

throw in $100 million for everybody of

that prize pool. Roughly 2/3 to 3/4 is

allocated to the jackpot with the rest

funding lower tier prizes. So that means

even if there's $200 million out of the

hund00 million only twothirds of it goes

into the the big jackpot. Um and that

means the jackpot is typically in the

order of onethird of total ticket sales

that run and then out of that one-third

so say if it's a hundred million or with

the Epstein case it was 80 million. He

took the payout which was 30 million. So

they make 50 on top of that and then on

top of that you pay taxes on that 30.

It's a crazy scam.

>> What do they do with the money?

>> Whatever the [ __ ] they want.

>> I think they probably I think they in

certain neighborhoods I think they

probably pump a certain amount of

winning tickets into a neighborhood just

to get you addicted to keep going in

there and spend your money.

>> Well, it's supposed to be random. You

know, I don't know how much oversight.

Look, if a guy like Jeffrey Epstein can

win, I don't know how much oversight is

it. I know um back in Boston when I

lived there, Whitey Bulier won. See if

this is true. I think he won the lotto

twice, which is crazy.

>> Whitey Bulier. Who was that? That sound

>> Whitey Bulier was a South Boston mob

boss uh in the 1980s when I lived there.

The 1980s and 90s.

>> A mob a mob boss.

>> Yeah, he was a dangerous dangerous guy.

He was the guy that that movie that

Leonardo DiCaprio starred in with Jack

Nicholson. What was that movie? Jamie,

remember that movie that was based on

Whitey Bulier?

>> The Departed?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Departed. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay.

>> That was based on Whitey Bulier.

>> He was a gangster.

>> Oh, yeah. Terrifying gangster. Yeah.

>> What was his demise?

>> He was actually a [ __ ] FBI informant.

Not only was he a gangster, he was

working with the FBI and they were

letting him get away with [ __ ] because

he was throwing other people under the

bus.

>> I think there's a different I mean,

>> they wind up catching him in Santa

Monica. Well, I found that

>> Hunting Whitey about that Whitey Bulier

won the Mass Millions lottery about that

time. Yeah. Yeah, he won the [ __ ]

lottery, man. So, uh

this is what it says here. What does it

say?

>> I think it was more of a scheme than

they actually won the but it's Oh, he

was taking money. It's probably a way to

like launder money.

>> Yeah. Oh, 100%. It's a way to launder

money. So the way it would work was like

say if you lived in the community and

you won the lottery ticket, maybe they

would give you money for your lottery

ticket and then he would get it and that

way it would show that this is where he

got his income from. Like these guys

would all own businesses. But the reason

why they would own businesses is so they

could show why they drive a Cadillac,

why they have a mansion, why they have

this, because they have legitimate

businesses. But really, these businesses

were scams. My father convinced my

family that he was a real estate agent

for years and come to find out he was a

heroin king been in DC for years. All we

needed was an excuse. He's selling real

estate. All right.

>> That's hilarious.

Um so he ordered the real winner to sign

the ticket over with Whitey and two

associates paying $2.3 million in cash

for 50% of the winnings. Buler Bulier

himself paid Michael Linsky 700,000.

Although Linsky lost money in the deal,

he really had no choice. It came down to

selling the ticket or risking his life.

Yeah. So that's how it usually wills

works.

>> So he was a snitch.

>> Whitey was a snitch. Yeah.

>> He was a snitch and he got caught in

Santa Monica. He was

>> snitch or whistleblower. There is a

difference.

>> No, he was a snitch.

>> Whistleblowers are people that snitch on

people in higher profile positions like

corporate America. But what I'm finding

out

>> No, he wasn't a whistleblower. He was an

actual snitch because he was turning

other people in. But he was a kingpin.

Is this true? And I don't want to make

everything about race. Is that phrase

snitches get snitches more prevalent in

the white community or the black

community or it's across the board?

>> I think it's across the board, isn't it?

Like like the black community is famous

for keeping their mouth shut when

someone gets shot or when someone does

something like when cops come and

question.

>> I don't know that's the truth anymore

because what I'm

>> not anymore. But that was the thing with

the mafia too. Yeah.

>> The mob would never rat out. Guys would

just go to jail. interested now because

now I see like especially in my

community so many people like rat I got

the paperwork and everything and now it

feels like like that model of being

loyal is dead like people now they they

getting caught with [ __ ] and the minute

they get caught they snitch on everybody

right and there's no repercussions when

they come home there's no repercussion I

don't see that as much I see so many

people that are like They saying

whatever the [ __ ] they want to do,

whatever, and they still out here just

living their lives normal like and

nothing [ __ ] happened.

>> Well, with the mob, it was always like,

if you ratted on the mob, you were a

dead man. You were a dead man. Your

family was probably dead. They burn your

house down and and people kept their

mouth shut because of that. And so guys

would go to jail all the time and never

open their mouth and they would be

rewarded when they would get out and

they'd have a party for them, celebrate.

That's in good fellas. You kept your

mouth shut. You never said nothing. That

was the whole thing. But the whole thing

I used to live

>> that changed though like with John Gotti

like the the government no Sammy the

Bull Sammy the Bull and it wasn't just

them like there was everyone was

snitching on everybody. It's like they

got these guys and you know we had

Donnie Brasco in in the studio

>> from from um what um from Johnny Depp

movie. It was called Donnie Bras.

>> Okay.

>> He why am I confusing that with um

>> what's his real John Deonnie Bras's real

name?

Joe. Uh,

>> I'm not confused. Bronx, that's not

Bronx.

>> Joe Pone.

>> Joe Pone.

>> That's nothing to do with Bronx Tale,

right?

>> No, different story. That's a different

story.

>> Yeah. Um, so Donnie Brasco was the guy

who was he was an agent and he pretended

to be a mob guy and he got in with the

mob and was with him for like seven

years. Did all kinds of [ __ ] with the

mob and then sold everybody out and they

all went under.

>> Yeah. I don't know. I'm just so this the

culture everything is they used to be

afraid snitches get stitches now I don't

know if this just everywhere but

everywhere I go it's like the most

interesting thing now that's selling on

any platform especially social media is

beef and I don't understand why people

gravitate toward negativity more than

anything

>> that's normal

>> why but you know what it's interesting

your platform is not known for that

>> no

>> your platform but I go to these other

platforms And I don't know. I think

these guys, the people, they just sit

back and it's like, okay, what can I say

to make people upset, get them riled up,

and then I take advantage of the

engagement that they do?

>> They're in a different game than me. All

right. Their game is trying to get

engagement. My game is talking to people

that are

>> But that don't doesn't that become

>> I don't want to be triggering anything,

but doesn't that become destructive

after a while?

>> 100%. And do you have you noticed it

especially I'll put it like this

especially with comedians with podcast

it it will used to be a time where like

you say a person would go on a podcast

because it was interesting they told

funny stories

>> or they was good at their craft or

whatever but now it feels like all these

platforms and I don't know that's just

in in my community when I say that black

people it's like the only way I can find

myself interesting if I talk [ __ ] about

people Right.

>> And [ __ ] are going away from

being being funny

when you get interviewed. Like every

[ __ ] podcast I turn on now is

somebody I'm exposed this person. I'mma

tell this about what you didn't know.

And the one thing they're not doing,

especially as a standup comedian,

[ __ ] don't give a [ __ ] about

being funny no more. Are those days

over?

>> No. No. No. No. Those people that do

that are almost always not very

talented. Almost always. The only

exception to that fooling. The only

exception to that is Cat. And I think

what Cat was doing was different. Cuz

what Cat was doing was exposing what he

thought was snakes and liars.

>> Okay.

>> A different thing.

>> Okay. Okay. I Okay. This is my question.

>> Okay. Okay.

>> This is my question. Okay. This is my

question. People can take it.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. Okay, I want to say this. This is

what I'm saying, Joe.

>> What are you saying?

>> I'm coming from this place. I'm like

this. No disrespect or whatever to Cat,

but like

>> who asked you

>> uh Shannon Sharp did

>> when he did that podcast.

>> Shannon Sharp might have asked one

question.

>> Shannon, but Shannon Sharp likes that

like that in his relationship. He likes

a lot of that. His his people, they find

questions. He's got a sheet of paper.

He's got questions. with those Joe. What

do you do with those truths?

>> What do you do with talking about I

watched Oh, this is a horrible

impression. I sat there in the parking

lot and I watched people go up at the

Dy's house and they came down and they

were standing up. I'm trying to figure

out what the [ __ ] do you get out of

that? What what what is the result of

that? You expose these people to say

what? Hollywood is never going to

[ __ ] change. You know what changes?

Like what you do? I left [ __ ]

Hollywood. Hollywood is not going to

change. And I'm not saying I went to a

diddy party. First off, I was never

invited.

>> There's a chance I would accept the

invitation with rules, you know, right?

But if what is the purpose of exposing

something that you

>> I don't think most people are exposing

what most people are doing when they're

being negative is they are jealous and

they are below the person they're

talking [ __ ] about like whenever I see

someone that's talking about jealous

about you don't think now you say that

and you use Cat Williams as an example.

So when you said they're jealous

>> first of all when Cat did it was very

funny which is

>> it was very funny. Cat's a very funny

guy. And when he was doing it, I think

he was also being very funny while he

was doing it, which is different.

>> Well, you have to put a LOL on the end

of it because people might not

understand his humor cuz this is what

this is the connection people have. They

This is what they the connection they

have with cat. It's like they this is

what they say and they ride with him.

They say, "Where is the lie? Where is

the lie?" And all this stuff. But I'm

just trying to understand what is the

purpose of exposing all this stuff. What

do we do with this information? What do

we do with the information that Diddy

like to have [ __ ] freak parties with

baby oil? What the [ __ ] do we do with

all this information?

>> Well, Denny's in jail right now, so they

did that with the information.

>> Well, Denny's in jail for doing

something that a lot of people

I Let me tell you something, Joe.

>> Tell me something.

>> I was riding with Diddy for one. I like

the music he did or everything. I don't

know did like that. But when I first

read the definition of sex trafficking,

right?

>> I'm sure you're a verse person. You're

smart.

>> Uhhuh.

>> The definition of sex trafficking to

transport a woman across state lines

with the intent to have sexual

intercourse with her.

>> Right.

>> When I heard

>> when you're paying them,

>> it's trafficking is

>> No, that's not actually my

This is my Jamie. You can pull this up.

>> Wait a minute. So, if you are dating a

girl and she lives in Minnesota and you

live in California and you fly her to

California, that's sex trafficking.

>> And I'm thinking about

>> I don't think that's true. I don't think

that's true at all. I think that's just

flying a girl in that you're having a

relationship.

>> They call it flued out. Fluid out.

>> Yeah, but that's normal. Everybody does

that.

>> But that's the definition.

>> Commercial sex act.

>> Yeah. Commercial. Commercial sex act

induced by force, fraud, or coercion.

Huh. Well, coercion's crazy cuz coercion

is like, "Please, I'll buy you a bag."

>> That's sex trafficking. So, like if a

girl, right, if you if you if there's a

girl, she's like, "What are you going to

do for me?" Like, "You know those shoes

you want? I got those shoes for you.

Let's go shopping." Like, that's kind of

sex trafficking. If that's coercion for

money,

>> like if a girl's thinking about coming

out to visit you and then you go,

"Listen, listen, listen. What are you

looking for? What do you What do you

want to buy? I got money. Come on. Let's

go shopping." that kind of would fall

into that category.

>> But we're getting off topic. Let's go

back to the topic originally in hand.

>> The reason why these comedians are

negative I need to

>> No, no, no, no. You're not going to get

in trouble for sex trafficking. Listen,

that's all horseshit.

>> But the reason why these comedians are

doing it is because they're never bigger

than the comedians they're [ __ ] on.

Never.

>> 1,000%.

>> And you know what it is, Joe?

>> And they're never good.

>> That You know what it is, too, Joe? is

that deep down inside they want to be

that person

>> 100%.

>> And I tell you that

>> or they want to be in the position that

person's in is a better way of putting

it.

>> And I I I'll use this. I'll tell you

this story. I realize now not to say

names, but you it's so many people that

could be guilt guilty of it. And this is

the thing that I hear that understands

me that that that that disturbs me is

that, you know, uh, a lot of these

people that [ __ ] the most, they at some

point in their career, they were favored

by Hollywood.

>> Yes.

>> At some point in their career, they had

these opportunities. At some point in

their career, guess what? They had the

agencies. They had the agents. And

something happened in their career where

they fell out of favor for whatever you

want to call that it. whatever you want

to call that for whatever maybe

something they did agency didn't like

like them too much and now everything

that they wrote on everything they

wanted to do now it's all that's [ __ ]

up and only way you get this opportunity

cuz it has to be sexual favors and all

that type of [ __ ] and where did the [ __ ]

you draw the line

>> but it's not even sexual favor it's like

they criticize the work of the other

person that person ain't [ __ ] that

person sucks can I can I yo there's

here's the thing there was

>> come on you you get this all all the

time because you ride with Dave and

Dave's number one, right? So you you

always get you always get this label

even though you're a great comic, you

get this label being a coattail rider,

>> right? And guess what? Everybody don't

This is what I try to explain to people,

Joe.

>> Everybody does not have to be Batman.

I don't have a problem with being Robin.

You know why? Cuz Robin got the same

amount of screen time as Batman. And and

the reason why I say this is what I get.

And I'm I'm telling you this, Joe. I

don't know if this gum is kicking in.

>> This is what this is what go this is

what [ __ ] me up, Joe. This is what

[ __ ] me up. And I'll tell you example.

I'm going to give you an example. Don't

give me examples.

>> No, I'm going tell you. Are you pulling

out your phone? I'mma tell you why.

Because your [ __ ] shirt is [ __ ]

triggering me right now.

>> Kill Tony.

>> You mean the greatest greatest comedy

show of all time in the history of the

known universe?

>> I know that, but there's a lot of lies

involved. Listen,

this is this is what they saying. THIS

IS WHAT THEY SAYING.

>> DON'T PAY ATTENTION to what they say.

>> Listen,

>> why are you doing that?

>> Yo, you told me things that the Kill

Tony audience say about me.

>> Um, Chappelle's butt plug is ACTUALLY

>> YO, I GOT TO DEAL WITH THIS [ __ ] WHAT

IS SO NO.

>> WELL, you got to stop paying attention

to it.

>> It's so hard.

>> You know what it would happen to me if I

paid attention to all the haters that I

have? Yeah.

>> I would go crazy.

>> You would. Do you think that you paid

attention to those haters? Now you're at

a position where now you have so many

reasons to say [ __ ] them. Do you feel

like you had that same belief when you

was first starting this? Did you did you

engage them then?

>> Well, I engaged online with a lot of

people in the early days cuz I didn't

understand what you're doing is you're

engaging with people that don't have

happy lives,

>> right?

>> And they're negative. And there's some

criticisms that are good for you because

some criticisms make you evaluate what

you're doing and say, "Okay, well, what

I need to do is be undeniable." So,

these critics mean nothing to me because

you can't the I'm killing the audience

loves me. I'm selling out everywhere.

I'm doing great on stage. That you can't

pay attention.

>> You know what? You know what? I will say

this. I hear you, Joe. I tried that with

them [ __ ] on your shirt.

>> You had a bad show. You had one bad

show.

>> I never had

>> You had a bad show.

>> You had a bad show. Please don't do this

to me. All right.

>> You did. You had that one bad show where

you went back and forth. You walked Did

you walk off the show?

>> Listen, man.

>> Get sit the [ __ ] down.

>> SIT THE [ __ ] DOWN.

>> [ __ ] WALK OFF THE SHOW.

>> YOU WANT ME to play it back?

>> I I

Please don't do this.

>> You were a little drunk.

>> Who is the comic? Who is the comic?

>> I don't know his name.

>> We don't need to bring Whoever that dude

is.

>> See, now you're doing this. You You know

what you're doing.

You're don't You're being A PROVOCATORY

RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE PROVOKING ME cuz we

BROKE THIS [ __ ] DOWN AND I DON'T WANT TO

KEEP GOING.

>> I didn't think of this when I was

wearing this shirt. I'll change the

shirt.

>> No, it's okay. Put something over.

>> Shirt. I'll wear a Benny the Jet shirt.

>> Let's Let's Let's break it down, Joe.

>> Oh, we don't have to.

>> If we have to. You started this [ __ ]

All right. Thank you.

>> I'm gonna change my shirt right now.

>> It's like I didn't have a bad show.

>> You definitely didn't have a great show,

right? When you walk off, it's not good.

>> Jesus Christ. God

I'm cheating now. I feel like Carrie.

THEY'RE ALL GOING TO LAUGH AT ME.

THEY'RE going to laugh at me. It wasn't

this for the last [ __ ] time, Joe. For

the last [ __ ] time. And this is

what's so [ __ ] evil about this

situation that some people call a bad

show. I never wanted to do the show.

>> But you came back on. You had a good

show, right?

>> I want to go back. Let's rewind. All

right. And this is You were a part of

it.

>> Hey, look. I changed my shirt. No more

trigger.

>> I appreciate that.

>> Shout out to Benny the Jet.

>> Okay. I feel a lot better now.

>> Oh boy. I need another piece of gum.

>> I'm going to say this. Say what it's

worth. First off, I did not want the

first time I did it here in Austin,

>> right?

>> I didn't want to do the show. Okay.

>> And the reason why I didn't want to do

the show, Joe, now you're not even

paying attention to

>> You want a cigar?

>> Yeah, I'll take a cigar. I I didn't want

to do the show, and I'll tell you why.

Cuz I'm The streets say I'm sensitive.

>> You are a little sensitive.

>> Can I have not have your opinion and

just listen to me, please? The um uh

They know I'm sensitive. It was during

the pandemic, Joe. You remember people

would still come to do your podcast cuz

they know the benefits of it and you had

your thing doing. They would come to

your podcast and then they would [ __ ]

leave cuz they didn't want to catch co

and then they would leave Tony stranded

and he had no good guests. I was here

right this when when I'm talking about

the time when Tony had a black band.

>> He still has a black band.

>> All black. There a couple black people

on there now. Me too. I think it's

mostly black, right?

>> Okay. I want to tell a story. This is

the last time I want to talk about

>> Deep Madness. I mean, name

>> this the last time, Joe. I want to tell

the story.

>> Drummer, the guitar player or not?

>> What's that,

>> Mike? Dr.

>> Yeah. I mean, there's like

>> the horns.

>> A lot of them are black.

>> Definitely

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>> Look at the old when it when it's when

it was all had not high production, all

that type [ __ ] Tony is like, "It's hard

for me to get a guess. Would you stay?"

>> And this is when you [ __ ] me up the

last time. You wasn't playing fair. Yes,

you did. I wasn't playing fair.

>> No, I'm telling you when you weren't

playing fair.

>> When was I not playing fair?

>> Can I talk?

>> Please.

>> All I want to do I don't know if I got a

raise in my hand. I just want to be able

to speak. It is my month. It's my

[ __ ] month. So Tony said, "Would you

stay? Come on." I was like, you know,

and I stayed, right?

>> Okay.

>> And I stayed and I stayed. I was on his

show for two and a half hours. I told

him, "This is where it gets all crazy."

I told him I had a something I was

supposed to do later. There was another

black comic that was on his show. He

started roasting me. I had no problem

with that. I had no problem with him

roasting me, but I felt [ __ ] up

because it was only me him. And I was

trying to give this guy some sound

advice. But the only way he thought he

was going to get off by [ __ ] with me. So

I was like, "Yo, why you [ __ ] with me?

We on the same We on this [ __ ] same

team." What they did was look at the

[ __ ] video.

>> Okay.

>> You see, I want you to slow it down.

>> Slow it down.

>> Slow the video down.

>> It's like a Zapruder film.

>> It's a back. You're going to let me

freaking get my thought, Joe.

>> Sorry.

>> It's so easy for me to get distracted.

Just hanging out with

>> his gum.

>> So, if you look at this video, you see

him saying something to me and then when

I leave, it's two different [ __ ]

comics on the [ __ ] stage. It's a dude

that I was roasting and then they showed

me the exit and then these kill Tony

[ __ ] ass [ __ ] And I'm telling

you, I'll get past it. They may Oh,

Darnell walked off. I didn't walked off.

I had some other [ __ ] to do. And then

the last episode, you and your boy Tony,

he caught here and Tony doubled down on

it and he said, "No, that's not what

happened." Of course, them comment

[ __ ] the ones that be putting

cringe on here, they rolled with it.

>> Okay.

>> Then I came back.

>> Came back. He had an amazing show.

>> Tony said it was one of the best shows

he's ever done.

>> You know why it was amazing?

>> Because you were ready. I I'm amazing.

>> You You are amazing. But also, you

wanted to get it back,

>> right?

>> I didn't have You know what? This is

what Red Man said to me. Red band. Red

Man, whatever the [ __ ] his name, he

changed, too. I'm going to tell you

about in the Wuang Club.

>> Let me tell you,

>> I'm going to tell you the difference

between him and I'm going to tell you

the similarities between him and Jamie a

little later on, right? Okay.

>> How they're divas now. And I know you

>> Jamie. My Jamie's a diva. He has a false

memory of someone already. I'll let him

go. is the last thing from a [ __ ]

diva. I will defend Jamie to the bitter

end.

>> Well, maybe you don't know him, BUT

>> I DON'T KNOW. JAMIE.

>> YO, LET ME TELL YOU. THIS IS JAMIE.

>> I KNOW JAMIE BETTER THAN his mom.

>> I know, but this is the Jamie I saw.

>> Kill Tony after.

>> Sit down. You're not on camera. Saturday

night.

>> Okay. He had a leather jacket on.

>> Don't have a leather jacket.

>> Jamie had a leather jacket. Did he own a

leather jacket? WHATEVER IT WAS.

>> YOU OWN A LEATHER JACKET. NO.

>> WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. THE COLLAR WAS

FLIPPED UP. YOUR COLLAR WAS FLIPPED UP

>> LIKE DICE. And then AND THEN HE HAD THE

SHIRT.

>> You might have had Timmy no brakes.

He had the shirt open to this button

right here.

>> Oh, right. Gold chains.

>> And he was sitting. I don't know what

type of moose.

>> Jimmy had gold chains, boots on his

hair,

>> PONYTAIL WAS POPPING.

HE HAD some type of moose or something,

right? And then he was just looking and

I was like, "What's up, Jamie?" He was

like, he had his hands in his pot. It

was given, as they say, it was given

Fonzy attitude. I knew I knew that had

changed. But this is what Red B Red Man

whatever man he red

>> red man he said after the show he said

that must been the most epic comeback

and kill Tony history. I was like

>> well the second episode was you came

back full

>> you know what you're doing I don't know

it was great

>> I'm trying to use the term I don't I

don't think this past wrestle but you

[ __ ] with my MENTAL RIGHT NOW. OH,

I'M TELLING YOU, YOU'RE A GREAT COMIC

and you're funny as [ __ ] And when you

came back, it was amazing.

>> That's what you're saying.

>> The second episode was great.

>> This is the point I'm making that what

you're doing,

>> right?

>> The first episode was great.

>> It was Dr.

>> It was It was Dr. VIDEO.

YOU do it. But then then here's the

thing. They said the Red Man, Red Band,

he said

he said that was the greatest comeback.

I was like, it wasn't a comeback. You're

editing what it was. And this is what I

DID.

>> YOU'RE EDITING.

>> THIS IS WHAT I DID.

>> And I'm not saying I think about the

kill Tony audience like that, but I

thought about them cuz what? This is

what I said. I was like, this is what I

went. Like you say, I'm a great comment.

I know what I do. I said, you know what?

I don't want to give these [ __ ]

opportunity to be able to [ __ ] with me.

So I did

>> before I went that last. I said, okay,

what did you do last time that you're

going to do different for they want to

say that? I was like, the last one you

had some drinks. Well, I I wasn't able

to do anything about that cuz I had some

more drinks. But I was like I tried to

address what their concerns were, right?

Which with them, it's not going to make

a difference cuz I know that last

episode what this is what I didn't

understand about Kill Tony. I didn't

understand the the formula. I don't

watch it like that. First time I ever

did it, I was interrupting the one

minute part. You know what I mean?

>> Oh, okay.

>> And Tony told me the first time I did

it, he said, "D only one rule." He said,

"Let them talk for a minute." I said,

"Tony, why you have this on me on this

show? You know, I'm going to break the

rules."

>> And he knew that, right? But then after

I I was like, I understood how important

it was to let those comics get that

minute,

>> right?

>> So, when I did it the second time with

Rob Schneider, I didn't interrupt.

Sometimes my criticism could have been

too hard. I was trying to be more

supportive than anything. If you watch

the last one I did, I had nothing bad to

say about people in a harsh way. Certain

people I knew was up there just because

it was gimmick. And there were certain

people I was like, "Oh man, they've

really got talent." Like this one lady,

she was an older woman. I think she's a

regular there, right? I don't know what

she know what she was. But I told her, I

said, you know, it's so awesome. I said,

when I watch you perform, I see passion.

I see somebody that's going into a

different career later in life, which is

the hardest thing to do. I made those

points like, and I wasn't trying to be

an [ __ ] And even I got caught up in

one. They ran with this [ __ ]

And it's a song that uh there was one of

the acts by the name of Wanita.

Wanita is a a gender what is it when you

>> transgender?

>> Yeah. You have a dick but you're a girl

still.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Transgender. Right. So she came up

with this song. She did a song we we

will praise you. Praise you. And I had a

couple drinks. Right. And I said and I

was thinking like

>> [ __ ] you don't have that song.

>> What? What? Jamie.

>> I just started playing it. Sorry.

>> What? Just stop. Oh, you geared up for

that [ __ ] huh? You

>> put your headphones on.

>> No, listen.

>> Put your headphones on.

>> Oh god. Okay.

>> Go.

>> Go ahead.

>> All right.

>> Wait a minute. That's Wanita's version.

>> That's

the Okay. Okay.

>> Do you got Wanita's version?

>> Oh, I can find that.

>> Get the So, this is what happened, Joe.

So, I'm I had a couple two two three

four five Titos in

>> and I'm only looking at the artist with

my peripheral. I'm not staring nobody

down and like looking at them through

the pupils or whatever. So, the

performer I'm going to say that cuz I

don't want to get anybody upset. The

performer was like,

>> "Here we go.

Obviously, I'll let him talk to SA.

>> Okay. Now, look how I'm not paying

attention,

>> right? You're looking right AT HER.

>> SHUT THE [ __ ] UP.

>> OKAY. LISTEN.

>> All right. We'll see.

>> Um, so it's very strange when in 2008.

>> Sorry.

>> Okay.

>> Oh, they had to cut it out, too, I

think.

>> Probably the song. Yeah.

>> I That's the gayest thing I've ever

done.

And I do anal,

>> believe it or not.

>> Wanita, welcome back to the show.

>> Can I do a remix of that song for any

black guy watching her RIGHT NOW?

>> YEAH.

>> WE WILL. WE WILL. [ __ ] YOU.

>> Probably true until you find out she has

a dick. Darnell,

>> that is a

>> Keep it going. Don't

>> keep it going. This is amazing.

>> That's how it happens, ladies and

gentlemen.

They can't tell.

>> No. No. Come back.

>> The brothers. The brothers can't tell.