Why Staying Positive Doesn't Work
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Today we're going to talk about how to
control your thoughts. So the
interesting thing about this is if you
look at people who are incredibly
successful like Eileen Goo, she says the
coolest thing about the mind is that you
can control your thinking. And this is
something that I actually technically
hard disagree with. I think that you
can't control your thinking. Even more
interesting is that she's not the only
one who disagrees with me. In fact, if
you look at people who are incredibly
successful across all kinds of
industries. So here's a clip of Louiswis
House. How much of our thoughts do we
control?
>> None. We don't control our thoughts.
>> No, the mind generates thoughts. You
find that most people who are incredibly
successful believe that they can control
their thinking. And I'm on the other
side saying technically you can't. So
what's the deal here? Why is there so
much disagreement between people who are
incredibly successful at the top of
their field and me over here who's
insisting that it can't be done? What
we're going to tunnel into today is how
these people end up shaping their mind
in a way that gives them the idea that
they can control their thinking. And
this is work that I do like literally in
my day job, right? As a psychiatrist, my
job is to take people who are moderately
successful and help them become
incredibly successful. In my day job as
a psychiatrist, my goal is to help
people shape their thinking in the
correct way. And the blunt unfortunate
truth is that I've learned you can't
control your thinking. And I'll give you
a simple example. Okay? So let's say
I've got a patient who's got OCD. This
is by definition an illness where you
can't control the thoughts that pop into
your head. You have intrusive thoughts
which we call obsessions. You think
about it over and over and over again.
And then you have compulsive behaviors
to reduce the obsessions. But it's not
just OCD, right? We can think about
someone who's struggling with
depression. So let's say this is an
actual, you know, case of someone that
I've worked with, someone who built a
very successful company, sold it, right?
So they they did the the miraculous
thing, the founder exit at the age of 42
and then they became incredibly
depressed. So this is another situation
where there are lots of negative
thoughts that pop up in their head and
they don't want to think this way. They
try not to think this way. They may even
do things like stand in front of a
mirror and say positive affirmations to
themsel every day. But if you kind of
pay attention, the struggle with the
mind, the basic problem with the mind is
that you can't tell it what to think,
right? You can't go to bed tonight and
say, "Tomorrow when I wake up, I will be
confident and I will think positive
thoughts and I will believe in myself
and I will understand that the world is
a good place. I won't have existential
depression about the nature of how AI is
taking everybody's jobs and there's
wealth inequality that's increasing at
an astronomical rate. There's inflation.
I can't buy a home anymore because of
private equity. I'm I'm not going to
think that way anymore. And if you try
to do that, it simply doesn't work. The
cool thing is that there are a couple of
things that you can do. And when I work
with someone, my goal is to teach them
the skills that high performers
basically have internalized, what
they've learned how to do, what they can
control. So let's start with this
example from Lewis.
>> Do we generate a thought or is a thought
generated automatically?
>> What are you thinking?
>> I'm thinking you're touching my leg.
Yeah.
>> Did you have control over that?
>> I can think a different thought when it
happens. I can shift the thinking.
>> So this is a key thing to understand.
You can't control what pops into your
head, right? So when when I'm touching
Louiswis's foot, like he can't control
like, "Oh my god, this guy is touching
my foot." And that's like the problem in
life, right? So you text a friend of
yours and then they don't text you back.
And you can't control the thought that
pops into your head. But what you can do
is shift your attention away from it.
And this is one thing that is huge.
Separates people who are like broke from
people who are billionaires. the ability
to shift their attention away from
something. So, I'll give you all kind of
a simple example of this, right? So, I
can't control what is on the different
channels on TV, right? There's a news
channel. They're going to play this on a
particular day. There's a murder mystery
channel. There's the Discovery Channel,
like whatever. I can't control what's on
the channel. All I can control is which
channel I choose to watch. And this is
what's really important. This is what
athletes learn how to do. Really
successful people learn how to do. They
learn to shift their attention away from
an unproductive thought line. Now, what
happens when we don't do this? The
classic example is a thought spiral. So,
I've worked with people who will say,
let's say they get dumped. So, they get
dumped by their significant other. Now,
they feel lonely. They think to myself,
I have been dumped. And then their mind
jumps to the next thought. Since I have
been dumped, that means I am unlovable.
Since I am unlovable, that means I won't
find anyone else in this life. And since
I won't find anyone else in this life,
that means I'll be alone for the rest of
my life. I think a better example of
that second thought, I don't like I am
unlovable. I've spent so many years with
this person. I've been in this
relationship with this person for 10
years. I haven't been on a first date in
10 years. I'm so behind in life.
Therefore, I will remain behind in the
rest of my life. So, if you really look
at this damaging kind of thinking, it
isn't one thought that is damaging. It
is getting stuck in this loop, right?
this spiral where now we've boarded the
train of negative thinking and we think
this for an hour and each of those
negative thoughts piles up reduces our
self-esteem makes us feel worse about
ourselves what's the difference between
people who basically don't do very well
in life and people who do really well
what is the clinical work that I do I
help them shift from having a thought
chain to shifting their attention to
something else right because if we think
about what's the real problem with the
thought spiral It's not an individual
thought. It's the fact that they all
chain together and then we think them
again and then we think them again and
then we've lost two hours of our life,
right? And we feel terrible about
ourselves. This is also why the most
basic skill that we have to train the
shifting of attention is meditation. I
keep seeing comments, Dr. K, how do I
apply this to a situation in my life?
That's literally why we created a
coaching program. Our coaches are
certified on an evidence-based
curriculum designed to help you get
unstuck. This involves analyzing your
patterns, increasing your understanding,
and working with you week to week to
help you develop a plan to create
lasting change. So, if y'all are
interested, check out the link in the
description below. So, I can give you
all a really simple example right now.
So, really simple practice. I want you
to close your eyes and just pay
attention to the tip of your nose. Just
concentrate on the tip of your nose.
Right? If you're driving or something,
don't do this. Just the tip. Put all of
your attention there. So notice what
happened when you focused on the tip of
your nose. I actually this is like sort
of like a secret meditation technique
because it is so powerful in that you
can do it immediately and it'll shut off
your mind and you will stop thinking all
things. So, literally, I want you all to
think about 30 seconds ago, your mind
was thinking about what I was saying,
right? You had maybe all kinds of
skepticism or this guy doesn't know what
he's talking about or oh, maybe this
will fix me, right? You have all kinds
of thoughts happening. But when I tell
you to shift your attention, you
concentrate on the nose and all of those
thoughts go away. So, the first key
skill that athletes develop is the
ability to shift their attention away
from unproductive thoughts to other
things. There's a second thing that is
very important for athletes to learn how
to do, which is to regulate their
emotions. Now, this is why this is so
important because a lot of people don't
realize this. See, we tend to think that
logic and emotions are like separate,
right? So, like, oh, I'm not very
emotional. Like, I'm a logical thinker.
I'm a critical thinker. But if you've
ever seen a debate about politics, both
sides believe they're perfectly logical
even though for some reason they're not
able to see logic, right? You can look
at problems like, you know, dating or
the manosphere versus like the feminist
circles or pink pill versus red pill or
whatever. There's just a lot of like
people who think that they are
completely logical, but they're not. So,
here's the key thing to understand. Our
thinking is controlled by our emotions.
Like literally. Okay? So, if you look at
the emotional circuits of our brain,
they are so potent at shaping our
thinking. And if you've struggled with a
negative emotion before, you kind of
like know what I'm talking about, right?
So once you get angry, once the anger
turns on, the thinking is like a
torrent, right? Like, oh my god, they
did this and they did this and they did
this and they did this. And so if you
sort of look at it like the the emotion,
as long as the emotion is fueling your
brain, if that's what's dominating your
brain, there will be lots of thoughts
that are generated from this, not just
anger, right? Once you feel ashamed
about yourself, if you look at someone
who feels like they're a loser, an incel
or whatever, they have a lot of negative
emotion. What they really feel is a lot
of shame, they feel a lot of regret. And
that shame and regret are like little
factories that produce thoughts that pop
up into your head. And so, as long as
the emotion is present, it will shape
your thinking. What we learned in
cognitive behavioral therapy is that if
we can manage someone's emotions, if we
can teach them emotional regulation, if
you can calm down the anger, then the
thinking will change. Okay? There's a
big difference between the way that most
athletes manage their emotions and the
way that we manage our emotions. The
biggest problem is that we have access
to this. And this is a really good tool
to shut off our emotions. But shutting
off our emotions is not the same as
regulating them. The problem that we
have with this is when I look at funny
cat videos on the internet, right? Or I
look at like, oh my god, there's this
hilarious thing that happened in a video
game that I like or there's this funny
short about how the World Cup is
dominating or Scottish people are in
Boston and they're draining all the pubs
dry and everyone there's no beer except
for Bud Light left in the city of
Boston, right? Which is oh my god like
people outside of the America can't
drink Bud Light. Another tangent. You
see how I shifted away? So, here's the
problem with this kind of stuff is that
when we when we engage with things on
the internet like social media, it
artificially suppresses our emotional
circuitry. But we're not learning to
regulate it, we're just like turning the
TV off, right? We're like stepping away
from it. And then the problem is once we
stop doing that, once we let our mind be
free again, once we start thinking about
things that emotion comes rushing up
often times with an additional amount of
regret because now I've wasted an hour
on my phone and I should have been
working, right? So I my emotional
picture is actually moving in the wrong
direction. Whereas what many successful
people learn how to do is to regulate
their emotions. They do this often times
very physically, right? So a lot of
these athletes will learn techniques
like deep breathing. And by the way,
breathing is probably the best way. Best
in the sense that is very accessible and
very effective, very easy to do, very
natural. I teach this to literally
four-year-olds because your breath and
your emotional state are connected.
Okay? So if you think about if I breathe
like this,
what emotion am I feeling? Right? You
can tell there's a a particular
neurohysiologic pattern of respiration
with a particular emotion, which is why
we tell people, hey, you need to calm
down, take a deep breath. So, this is a
two-way street. And athletes will learn
deep breathing, but this is where we
want to decompress or regulate our
emotions. Often times, regulating our
emotions is an important skill that we
will do with other people. So, this is
where like in our coaching program or as
a psychiatrist, right, we will teach
these techniques which are learned over
time. So that's a really great way to
learn them. But deep breathing or
breathing in general is the fastest way
to immediately regulate your emotions.
So another thing that athletes tend to
do that we don't do is argue with
themselves. So often times when we have
these negative thoughts in our head, our
response is to try to logically argue
against them. So if you think to
yourself, I have low self-esteem. And
then people will say, okay, like so no,
but I don't have low self-esteem. Like
let me make a procon list. Let me try to
convince myself. And oftentimes athletes
do change the way that they talk to
themselves, but that kind of convincing
is very hard to do on your own. You guys
may have noticed, right? You've tried to
do it. Some people are able to do it, in
which case it's no longer a problem. But
many people will look for logic to
combat logic. But what we've learned
sort of what I've learned as a
psychiatrist is that as long as the
emotion is fueling those thoughts,
arguing against yourself really doesn't
change your self-esteem very much. And
that's a big trap that people fall into
that often times, I don't know if this
just makes sense. If you look at someone
who's incredibly successful, what
they're doing is not like sitting at
home spending 4 hours arguing with
themselves. And literally, I've worked
with I can think of a couple of esports
athletes that do do that. They spend
time hours at home after practice
thinking about how they should be
different and this and that. Their mind
is once again out of control and their
performance doesn't actually get better.
That actually holds them back a fair
amount. So, oddly enough, logical
argument is not something that works.
Another really important thing to
understand is where our thoughts
actually come from. So, sure, we can't
control them. We can shift attention
away to a different channel, a more
productive channel. We can regulate our
emotions. But the other key thing to
understand is that our thoughts
fundamentally come from our sense
organs. This is also something that
people who produce advertising and
propaganda very clearly understand. Why
does propaganda work? Because if I can
give someone enough sensory input, if we
look at the way that political campaigns
are run, I'm going to bombard people
with images, with music, with sound
bites, with clips. And if I can do this
enough, I can literally change the way
that they think. So the weird thing
about this is that other people are
actually more empowered to control your
thoughts than you are. really scary but
it's absolutely true right your wife has
certain thoughts in her head she's upset
and you can do things to alter the
pattern of her thinking you can say oh
tell me what's wrong I love you we as
human beings can affect the human beings
around us we can affect their thinking
>> which means by definition her thinking
is being shaped by who
>> me
>> so as we saw in this clip with Lewis his
wife's thoughts are actually controlled
more by him and his wife controls more
of his thoughts than we want to give
ourselves credit for and depending on
how you've existed in the environment.
You may have noticed this as well, like
if you're spending some time with your
boss and your boss like gives you a
negative performance review or they, you
know, give credit to one of your
colleagues, this environmental influence
can trigger all kinds of thinking. And
this is the other thing that athletes
and professionals are really, really
good at. Think about their environment.
Right? So, if I'm a professional
athlete, I wake up in the morning. I'm
eating some kind of healthy food that is
determined by my nutritionist. I go into
work, I spend time with my coach, I
spend time with my peers, I get a
massage, I do a cold plunge. My
environment is feeding me a certain kind
of thinking. They're not spending 8
hours a day watching how their
competitors are working harder than they
are, doing better than they are. Oh my
god, they have this coach and they have
I only have a cold plunge, but they have
an infrared sauna. That's not actually
how they're spending their time. This is
really important. The environment that
highly successful people have is very
controlled and that induces a certain
kind of thinking. A good analogy to sort
of stitch this all together is a garden.
So if we look at a garden, can you
control what grows in a garden? Now you
can look at a well manicured garden. You
can say like yeah like they kind of
control that, right? There's rose
bushes, there's liies, there's a crepe
myrtle, there are no weeds. So clearly
they can control it. But if you sort of
stop and think about it technically like
I can plant a seed, I can water it, I
can add the fertilizer but I cannot make
it grow. What I can do is take certain
actions to cultivate a particular kind
of growth. And the other really
important action that we take with
gardens is that we're we do weeding,
right? So when there are negative things
when they're negative plants growing, I
remove them. I remove them. I remove
them. I remove them. But technically,
you can't like stop weeds from growing.
You can only do the work of weeding them
on a daily basis. And this is ultimately
the difference between what I would call
high performers, the thinking of high
performers and the thinking of low
performers, which is that high
performers, they weed on a daily basis.
When they have a negative thought, they
shift their attention and they fertilize
themselves in the right way. I'm going
to spend time with my coach. I'm going
to spend time away from social media.
I'm literally spending my days doing
things. I'm doing things like deep
breathing. Each of these things that we
do will start to shift your mind in a
particular direction. And when we look
at someone like an Olympic athlete, they
have a well- manicured garden because
many of them from the age of five or six
or even younger started this process of
mental cultivation. The problem that we
run into is that we will do these things
for a little while, right? We'll say,
"Okay, I watched this Dr. K video. I'm
going to shift my attention. I'm going
to concentrate on the tip of the nose.
I'm going to do all of these things. We
do it for a week. We do it for 2 weeks.
We do it for 3 weeks. We do it for four
weeks. And then we think to ourselves,
"Oh my god, it's not working." And even
as you guys are listening to this, you
may be thinking these thoughts like, "Oh
my god, what is Dr. K saying? He's
saying just stay off your phone. Is that
basically what you're saying?" Like,
sure, if I'm a pro alete and I have a
coaching staff, I have an infrared
sauna, I have all these things, then
it's easy to do what you're saying, Dr.
K, but my life is different. I can't
afford to stay off of this. My boss
sends me emails. I have to check Slack.
I have to check Instagram DMs for my
job, right? I have to do all of these
things. And I want you to notice what
you just did, right? I want you to
notice what thought popped up into your
head when I said this is what we need to
do. This is exactly the problem, right?
So, you can't control your negativity in
response to this. But if we look at this
is a key thing that separates people who
are really successful from people who
are not which is that when they have a
negative thought pop into their head.
What is the shift that you are making
right now? Are you making the shift of
and this is the shift that they make.
This is an obstacle. How do I overcome
it? That is the difference between a
high performer and a low performer's
thought. Low performer's thought is this
is an obstacle therefore I can't do it.
Right? You see this? And there's so many
people in our community. This is why I'm
doing this work, right? Because y'all
think, "Okay, it won't work because of
this. It won't work because of this. I'm
different. There's another thought.
There's another weed that has grown. I'm
less than everybody else. What works for
other people doesn't work for me. These
people have advantages I have.
Therefore, I can't accomplish what they
can't accomplish." And I'm not one to
say that advantages don't matter. Right?
I I said from the get-go, many of these
people, they they are this way because
they were trained from the age of five.
You were not trained from the age of
five. I was not trained from the age of
five. Right? There's no question that
they have advantages that you don't
have. The question is, how does your
mind respond to that discrepancy? Do you
say, "Therefore, I can't do it." Notice
how it's happening right now in your
head. Even as I point this out to you,
what is your mind's reaction? Is it
finding some way to twist and turn to
reject what I'm saying? Or is it
actually starting to shift a little bit?
Maybe I should think about how to apply
this instead of finding the five
obstacles that I need to wipe away
before I apply it. And this is the key
thing. See, if you're struggling with
this, it's completely normal because if
we go back to the garden, the issue with
the garden is if we have a garden that
we have not manicured, right, for 10
years, 15 years, the garden is overrun
with weeds. How many weeks of tending
the garden? How many weeks of weeding
does it take for the garden to become a
rose garden? We have to start planting
the right thoughts and we have to do a
lot of weeding. And this is what's so
hard. This is why I like working with
people, right? And if we look at like
our coaching program, it's really
interesting because we see really good
outcomes. So people start to get better
within four weeks, but we see really
good outcomes at 20 weeks. And that's
because it takes about 20 weeks to get a
garden under control. You can put in a
lot of effort for 4 weeks, 8 weeks. You
can do all of the right things, but you
will not notice a difference. And it's
just like a garden because you're
working, working, working, working,
working. And then if you go 4 weeks in
and you're like, "Oh my god, I've been
working every day for 8 hours and the
garden is still an absolute mess." And
even though you're expending effort, you
don't see a result. But then something
magical happens at 8 weeks, 12 weeks, 16
weeks. And this is another dangerous
thought that people have. I'm putting
forth effort therefore and I don't see a
result. Therefore, this is a waste of
time. Therefore, this will never work.
But with a garden, the key thing is at
some point the effort starts lessening.
The more you do it, the more you
cultivate, the easier it becomes. But it
still requires that maintenance on a
daily basis. I want to leave you all
with one super concrete thing, which is
what is it that I need to weed in my
mind. So, by all means, you can focus on
the tip of your nose, learn to train
your attention. That'll help you a lot.
But the last thing that I want you all
to notice, this is the thought that you
need to weed. Any thought that is black
and white. So, in the world, nothing is
black and white, right? Or maybe some
things are black and white. That's a
black and white thought, right? So,
let's weed that out. Maybe something is
black and white. Most things are not
black and white. And if you look at
athletes, they're really good at this.
So, I I recently heard a a clip from a a
tennis player who was saying they
unexpectedly lost a tournament where
they were, you know, favored to win and
they're like, "I never want to play
tennis again." That's a black and white
thought. And do you think that this
person is going to quit tennis? I would
be really surprised if they do. They
have the black and white thought, but
they shift away from it, right? How do
you shift away from I never want to play
tennis again? You shift away by saying,
"Look, I had a bad week. It was a bad
game. Everybody has tough times. Here's
what I did well. Here's what I did
poorly." And what I found literally you
can measure the black and the level of
black and white thinking with the
severity of mental illness. And what you
will find is that the more severe the
black and white thinking is, the more
likely they are to be severely mentally
ill. So in borderline personality
disorder, one of the diagnostic features
is black and white thinking. When people
have psychotic depression, it's black
and white thinking. So notice anytime
you think in terms of black and white
and you have just one task, shift
towards gray. It doesn't have to be all
the way from black to white. Even white
is bad. I've worked with many people. We
talk about psychotic depression. Other
example of white thinking. Is all white
thinking terrible? Absolutely. And we
call that mania. So shift away from
black or white to gray. That is the most
fundamental weeding you can add.
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Dr. K argues that humans cannot consciously control the specific thoughts that enter their minds, as evidenced by conditions like OCD or depression. Instead, he explains that high performers are successful because they have mastered the ability to regulate their attention and emotions. Using the metaphor of a garden, he suggests that one cannot stop negative thoughts from arising, but one can cultivate a 'well-manicured' mind through consistent practices like deep breathing, meditation, and specifically weeding out black-and-white thinking patterns. He emphasizes that this is a long-term process, often requiring months of consistent effort to see meaningful change.
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