You NEED to set up a multi agent team with OpenClaw and Hermes
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Open Claw and Hermes Agent is the most
powerful combo in AI right now. When
used together, you literally gain
superpowers and your productivity
explodes. In this video, I'm going to go
over why having these two AI agents
working together is incredible, why you
absolutely need to be building a
two-agent setup, and I'll show you some
use cases that have improved my
workflows a ton. If you stick with me
until the end of this video, you're
going to have an army of AI agents
making your life so much better. Let's
get into it. So, I have been playing
around a ton with Open Claw and Hermes
Agent over the last few weeks, and I
have come up with a system that is
amazing. First, I want to tell you why
having a multi-agent workflow is the
future and why you need to be building
this out immediately. The reliability of
my AI agents has exploded since I
started using these two together. One of
the biggest complaints I get all the
time is, "Oh, my Open Claw is constantly
breaking." or "Oh, my Hermes Agent is
constantly breaking." have them working
together, your downtime turns to zero.
The moment one of them goes down or
doesn't perform well or breaks or does
something wrong, the other comes in and
fixes it easily for you. So, the
reliability of your entire AI agent
system gets so much better when you
start using these two together. You're
basically building your own AI company
where these two AI agents have each
other's back, supports each other's
work, and make sure they both do amazing
things. These are also two very
different AI agent harnesses. They both
have very different strengths. The
people go on Twitter saying, "Oh, one
killed the other." or "One's better than
the other." They're idiots. They don't
know what the hell they're talking
about. You want to use them together cuz
they both have very different strengths
that complement each other really well.
And I'm going to second go over what
those strengths are and which you want
to use for each. It allows you to make
sure the best task gets handed to the
right agent, so the task get done
better, quicker, and cheaper. With this
setup I'm about to show you, you're
going to be saving a ton of money
because you'll be able to use the right
agents with the right models for the
right tasks, and you're going to be
getting more done at the exact same time
because you'll be able to multitask and
have the better task getting done by the
right agents. So, before I pop open
those two agents and I show you real
quick how to set them up, install them,
all that, here's just where I see their
strengths and weaknesses at the moment
and how they complement each other so
well when you use them together. And
then again, right after this we'll also
go over the workflows of using each.
Open Claw I'm using as my main agent.
The reason why I'm doing that is it's
just proven for me personally to be much
more stable, to get updates quicker, and
just a lot more reliable when getting
big tasks done. Hermes agent on the
other end has been a great
assistant/monitor
for me, and I'll show you what that
means in a second. But, it's been great
at assisting Open Claw. It has been much
more performant for me. And basically,
it's a lot faster and using a lot less
tokens, which has been great. A big
reason for that is it's just a lot
lighter weight. I think it was designed
a lot more efficiently than Open Claw.
And the best part about all these is
Open Claw's been great at keeping Hermes
agent working, and Hermes agent's been
great at keeping Open Claw working,
which has been fantastic. I haven't had
basically a second of downtime since
these two started working together. The
moment one breaks, the other swoops in
and fixes it, which has been great. So,
with that being said, knowing what each
strengths and weaknesses are, how one is
a main agent, and how the other is an
assistant, let's go over how to use them
together and some workflows I think will
be amazing for you. So, here we go. I
got my Open Claw Henry on the left. I
got my Hermes agent Hermes on the right.
I apologize when I named my Hermes
agent, I was not feeling creative in the
moment, so it's just named Hermes. It is
what it is. What I'm going to show you
now is how I use them together, some
workflows you can steal immediately that
I think will improve your life a ton,
and when you want to be using each. So,
let's talk about models I use for each.
First of all, Henry is powered by Opus
46. I'm just going to be honest with
you, Opus is the best model for AI
agents. It is what it is. I want ChatGPT
to be good for AI agents, but it just
isn't. So, I highly recommend using
Opus, the API, for your main Open Claw
agent. I understand it's pricey, but if
you want the absolute best performance,
you have to be going with Opus. If price
is a big thing and you can't be spending
that money on Opus, the next best model
is ChatGPT. You can plug in your ChatGPT
OAuth really nicely with the existing
plans you already have, so you'll be
saving a ton of money. Listen, I wish it
was better than Opus, I really do, just
because they're encouraging the use of
the OAuth, but at the moment, at the
filming of this video, it just isn't.
But, if you can't afford the Opus API,
ChatGPT still works well, plug that in.
When it comes to Hermes, I currently
have ChatGPT plugged into that. If
you're on the $20 ChatGPT plan, it's
going to be hard for you to plug it into
both of these, cuz that's going to be a
lot of usage. So, I'd recommend going
with one of the cheaper plans out there,
like the GLMs of the world, if you have
ChatGPT already on your main Open Claw
agent. As an assistant, Hermes doesn't
need quite as much intelligence, so
you're fine getting away with one of
those cheaper AI plans for Hermes agent.
So, more expensive intelligence on the
left in Open Claw, cheaper intelligence
on the right in Hermes, since it's more
of your assistant, and Open Claw is more
of your main agent. Keep in mind, things
ebb and flow all the time. If you're
watching this video in 2027, things
might be completely different. The AI
models I may be using might be
completely different. Gemini might be
the best model at the moment. Hermes
might be a thousand times better than
Open Claw in 2027, so make sure to
subscribe and turn on notifications down
below. So, every time there's an update,
or a model changes, or a harness
changes, you'll know immediately, cuz
all I do is make amazing videos about
this stuff. I also do live boot camps
every single week in the Vibe Coding
Academy on Open Claw and Hermes Agent.
So, make sure to hit that down below and
join the number one community in AI.
I'll be doing a live boot camp this week
on these two tools as well and using
them together. So, first use case I'm
going to start out with is super simple.
Then, we're going to get to the most
advanced stuff. This has been probably
the most important use case of having a
two agent system that I've ever had. The
Open Claw team is incredible because
they release new big updates every
single day. They have like the most
amazing open source community behind
them. The issue is it's constantly
breaking every time I upgrade. Every
time I upgrade, there's something breaks
and I have to go and fix it. Which for a
lot of people they're experiencing this
and it's super stressful because your
best friend AI agent goes down, you
can't talk to it anymore. Like, this is
literally an example from last night. I
updated to the latest Open Claw and
boom, it just stopped responding. It
kept saying missing API key for Open AI.
Even though I'm not using Open AI for my
Open Claw agent at all. So, what I
immediately did is I went to my Hermes
agent and I said, "Hey, I'm having
issues with my Open Claw. Here's the
error I'm getting." It went in, it
looked around my Open Claw code, and it
fixed it for me. Instantly found the
issue, fixed it for me, and it was good
to go. My downtime in Open Claw has went
from like an hour every time I upgrade
to literally seconds if it ever breaks.
My Hermes agent and my Open Claw agent
know each other inside and out. So, any
time there's an issue with one or the
other, they go in and fix each other.
This is why it's so critical to have a
multi-agent approach is because these
are fragile, these harnesses. If one
piece of code gets messed up, the entire
thing breaks. So, if you're just relying
on one single agent, you have a single
point of failure. But, if you have two
agents going, it doesn't matter if one
or the other completely breaks. You have
backup ready to go in and fix each
other. So, first use case I know is
super simple, but it probably is the
most important out of them all, and
that's just having back-up. That's
having multiple points of failure. So,
as you're doing upgrades and updates to
each, the other can watch it and make
sure they keep performing well. The next
workflow I want to go over is how to
build things with each, and that is the
supervisor builder workflow. This is
relevant if you have a mission control,
if you build out any apps with your
agents, or anything like that. So, for
instance, right now I want to build out
a dashboard for my scanner system. For
those who aren't familiar with the
channel, I have a whole scanner system I
set up that's constantly scraping the
web at all times looking for business
opportunities for me where I can build
SaaS, or guides, or different things to
solve challenges online. It's a whole
very complex scanner system. I want to
build a dashboard for this system so I
can monitor all my scanners and see how
they're performing. This is where the
monitor worker workflow comes in. I'm
going to have Henry, my Open Claw
running on the best AI model Opus, come
up with a plan. Hermes is going to
execute on it, and then Henry will go
back, make sure it performed well, and
give feedback. This is a really great
system because as long as you have a
very high intelligence model and a lower
intelligence one, you don't need the
higher intelligence one doing
everything. As long as they're planning
and monitoring, you can have the cheaper
model do the execution, and you'll still
get really good results and save tons of
money. So, let me show you how this
works. So, I'm going to have Open Claw
build a plan around this. I'm going to
say, "I want to build a dashboard for
our scanner system. It should be a
Next.js app and show the scanners, their
status, and when the last run was. Can
you build a plan for this I can hand to
the other agent, please?" Henry, my Open
Claw powered by Opus 4 6, is going to go
and build this plan that we are then
going to hand to Hermes. There's another
step I'm going to show you right after
this, and that is the review step. Henry
is going to basically make sure Hermes
is going and doing the right thing. But,
let's first get this plan from Henry.
All right, there we go. Henry finished
the plan. We have this markdown file
right here, which is great. I'm going to
click that so we can open it up. Here we
go. Boom, look at this beautiful plan.
Wow.
This is a 256
line plan. Let's give this to Hermes
now. So, I put in the plan that Henry
built, and I put in a caption, "Hey, I
want to build a dashboard. Here is the
plan." And I'm going to hit send. And
now Hermes is going to get the plan and
actually start building it out for us.
Because it has that plan from Opus, it's
going to be done really, really well cuz
it has a really well-thought-out plan.
By the way, if you have an extra monitor
or something, the setup you see here, I
have up it all times. I have two
monitors, so I have Henry and Hermes up
on my second monitor at all times so I
can quickly go and chat with them.
Having these up at all times, always
visible, like out of the side of your
eye, makes it so you're a lot more
likely to use them. So, I highly
recommend, if you're doing this setup
and you're copying me here, keep up two
windows just like this. This is
Telegram, by the way, up on your second
monitor or wherever at all times. Just
you always remember to be using them.
All right, looks like it's done
building. Let's check it out. Let's see
what we got here. See how it looks. Oh,
wow, look at this. This is all built by
Hermes agent. Okay, so here's my scanner
dashboard. 12 of the 18 scanners
healthy. Six are erroring out right now.
And then we can see each of the
scanners. This is great. I can see the
last run, the next run, how long they've
been running for. This is really, really
cool. I wonder what happens. Can I click
it and something happens? Okay, I click
it. It's loading. I'm going to imagine
it's going to show me the runs and what
it discovered and things like that. Oh,
wow, boom. I can see it. The last run,
the run history, everything in it. I
love it. That's really, really sick. So,
it did a really good job, and it looks
very nice. Now that we have the code
built, let's go back to our open claw
because again, we want to use the
smarter model as the checker, make sure
things went well, almost like a Ralph
loop. And let's say, "Check out the code
here and let me know what you think."
And I'm going to hit enter. Now, Henry
will go and check out all the work on
Hermes. If there's improvements needed
to be made, open claw will let me know.
This is how you both get better
performance and also save tons of money
because your more expensive agents
aren't doing the work. All right, and
here's the view. This is solid work,
builds clean and well-structured. Here's
my take. Looks like it's pretty good.
Has some notes for improvement, and we
can give that back to Hermes now to fix
that. But now you can see the system in
action, and it's so good. Use case
number two is the monitor system. I
regularly schedule cron jobs with Hermes
to check on things that Henry is doing.
The reason why I can do this is because
Hermes is cheaper to run because I'm
using cheaper models and it's a
lightweight agent. I can have it
constantly monitoring things Henry has
built out. So, for instance, those
scanners that Henry originally built, I
have Hermes go in and every 2 hours just
look into them. So, kind of like this
dashboard system we just built out, I
had it running on cron jobs before this
in Hermes, and it would go, see the
state of all the scanners, give me
advice on what's working and what isn't,
and just had this do it every 2 hours
and alert me when things were wrong.
Because Hermes is lightweight and
cheaper, you can have it doing cron jobs
a lot more often, checking in on other
things, checking in on what Henry is
doing, or even checking in on social
media, your emails, whatever it is.
Hermes acts as a way better monitor than
Henry because of its lightweight and
cheapness. So, if you have an app you
built with open claw, or you just have
some sort of process your open claw
does, setting Hermes up as kind of a
hallway monitor that's just checking in
every few hours to make sure it's going
well, and alerting you if something goes
wrong is a really powerful way to be
using Hermes just because as an
assistant it's just really good at these
types of tasks. Again, it's all about
checks and balances, them checking each
other's work, making sure it's going
well. It's just increasing the
reliability and performance of
everything your agents are doing. The
third use case I want to go over is a
shared memory workspace. What does that
mean? That basically means you have a
custom memory system that both agents
use where they can share information
with each other. This dramatically
improves the memory of your agents
because now everything your agents do
separately goes to one centralized space
that helps improve the memory of all
your agents and just make them all
better. The more mistakes each agent
makes, the more information that goes to
the shared memory system and improves
all your agents overall. Let me show you
how this works. So in Obsidian, I have a
few different folders here you can see
over on the left-hand side. You can see
an agent Hermes folder, an agent Open
Claw folder, and an agent shared folder.
In the individual agent Open Claw and
agent Hermes folders are all their
memory. So everything they're doing,
their daily logs, the mistakes they're
making, and any working context they
have. This is great for improving each
individual agent's memory. But here's
where it gets good is the agent shared
folder. Now they have a shared workspace
that they're both checking in on to see
what each other are doing, lessons
they've learned, decisions they've made,
and it helps them improve each other.
This is where like the recursive
self-improvement comes in is when one
agent learns something or makes a
mistake or gets better, it's able to
share all that information with the
other agents as well. By having two or
more agents doing work, they're now
improving each other even faster. As you
can see, I was planning this YouTube
video this morning with my Hermes agent
and it put the entire plan for this
YouTube video inside the shared folders
so that I can then go to my OpenClaw and
say, "Hey, what do you think about this?
How would we improve this YouTube
script?" And things like that.
Everything is stored in the shared space
so that they can improve each other.
This is a much better memory system than
having just a bunch of separate agents
working and not talking to each other.
This is all done in Obsidian, which is a
completely free app you can download. I
have a guide on Obsidian. I'll link to
that down below on using Obsidian with
AI agents. Make sure to check that out
right after this if you want guidance on
setting up the shared memory system as
well. Just as a side note, too, for all
of these, you can just copy and paste
this YouTube video or hit share down
below and then copy link and then give
it to your agents and say, "Hey, check
out this YouTube video and set all this
stuff up." It'll actually generate a
transcript for you, look through the
transcript, pull out all the learnings,
and set this up for you. So, super easy
to implement anything I share with you
in any of these videos. Just take the
link to the video and give it to your
OpenClaw or Hermes and it will set it up
for you. So, we talked about the planner
builder system. We talked about the kind
of hallway monitor system where Hermes
is checking in on OpenClaw, making sure
things are running well. We talked about
the backup system where if you upgrade
and one thing breaks, they can get each
other's backs. We talked about the
shared memory system. These are core
infrastructure use cases where if you
implement these, everything just gets
better and improves. Your memory stops
going to crap, your performance gets
better, you save money, things break
less, everything just improves. So,
implement these core structures into
your multi-agent system and things will
be great. I'll put links down below for
both OpenClaw and Hermes agents so you
can get them installed and use them
together. Leave a like, subscribe, and
turn notifications if you got anything
out of this. And again, I do live
bootcamps every week on Hermes and
OpenClaw. That is in the Vibe Coding
Academy. Link for that down below. Make
sure to join that now if you want to
learn a ton more about AI and the most
important cutting-edge skills on planet
Earth. I hope this was helpful and I'll
see you in the next video.
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The video explains the benefits of using a two-agent AI system, specifically combining Open Claw and Hermes Agent, to enhance productivity and reliability. By using Open Claw as a main, stable agent (powered by Opus) and Hermes as a lightweight assistant, users can achieve better task distribution, cost savings, and near-zero downtime. The speaker details key workflows including using them as mutual backups, a planner-builder-checker system, a cron-job monitor, and a shared memory architecture using Obsidian.
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