Jamal do you hear that freeberg got

busted looking at porn on his

computer no I did not you got busted

looking at porn you want to know what it

was yeah it was Elon of AES Wall Street

Journal off that it was I lost it oh man

was too good I think he was pleasuring

himself to that

off skin flute what happened you had to

go for a quick game of pocka pool how's

you oh my God it was it was too exciting

you were beating the bishop Allison came

in and just like wondering what was

going on she grabbed my computer she

looked at it and it was an

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withen all right before we get to Doge

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Housey housekeeping you know we're

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it's Episode 205 we're in year 4 and

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that right am do I have my fact straight

there

freeberg yeah there's going to be a live

stream thanks to zoom for setting this

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they're doing this thing where you could

you kind of you know get access to Live

Events so they're helping us get this

set up if you want to watch the the

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it could be spicy true that true that

all right listen bestie Elon and bestie

V wrote an OP ED a barn burner in the

Wall Street Journal about Doge the

department of government efficiency and

they laid it out they want to cut

overbearing and unnecessary regulation

obviously they want to cut unnecessary

administrative roles save taxpayers

money they want to run it by Founders

not politicians helping the Trump

transition team find a way to hire quote

a lean team of small government

Crusaders team's going to work closely

with the White House Office of

Management and budget here's the plan

First Take Aim at 500 billion in annual

F Federal expenditures that are

unauthorized by Congress then fix the

government's procurement process by

conducting massive audits during

temporary payment suspensions this is an

interesting Playbook that Elon has done

before so basically suspend all the

payments and hey let everybody audit

those payments Drive change through

executive action based on existing

legislation rather than passing new laws

and two two scotus rulings are going to

play a major role here West Virginia

versus EPA that's when scotus ruled that

federal agencies can't impose

regulations dealing with major economic

or policy questions unless Congress

authorizes them to do so and Looper

brigh versus Rondo that's from 2024 and

that overturned the Chevron Doctrine we

talked about that on a previous episode

so according to Doge when combined quote

these cases suggest that a plethora of

current Federal Regulations exceed The

Authority Congress has granted under the

law do will use software and legal

experts to create a list of regulations

that Trump can immediately pause they're

going to make some sort of a leaderboard

Elon said

and vake said he would do he suspended

his existing podcast I didn't know he

had a podcast but he's doing a doge cast

a doge podcast and so freeberg this has

been you know a major issue for you you

you've been talking about on this

podcast

the unsustainable existential issue for

our country is all of the debt we have

what are the chances that this is going

to occur because obviously we all know

the machine is going to fight to

preserve the machine chances that we are

sitting here in four years and we've

seen meaningful Cuts in spending and a

meaningful reduction in size of the

government look it it Doge has probably

18 months to do what they can do before

the midterms and there's going to be an

inevitable amount of recoil and backlash

that's going to arise from the actions

that they're going to try and take and

president Trump's going to try and take

uh under the uh recommendations provided

by Doge um so they need to move fast and

aggressively and that's only going to

cause The Recoil to be harder and and

faster there's going to be a ton of

litigation obviously everything's going

to go to court it's going to be um

incredibly politicized what is

frustrating and challenging to me is

that there is nothing that they said

that doesn't seem obvious and right I

don't know how you can politicize the

points that they're making put aside

their party put aside who they are

individually put aside how we got here

at the end of the day this federal

government needs to be run more

efficiently more effectively it is

unfair and it is a tax on every one of

us to have money thrown away to have

wasted Capital to have bureaucracy that

gets in the way of people being able to

do their jobs it is a tax on all of us

and our kids and our future it needs to

be fixed if it doesn't get fixed as I've

said countless times before we are in an

arithmatic debt depth spiral there is no

way out of it so by resolving both the

inefficiency reducing the bureaucracy

stopping the wasteful spending having

accountability in the or in the

government we can actually get the

United States another 50 years a 100

years whatever long we want but we were

literally in a death spiral leading up

to this moment and I have no idea how we

ended up on this time timeline I was

over the moon and shocked when I read

all of the progress over the last couple

of weeks and putting this thing together

I did not know that this is where we

would end up I couldn't be more happy

with what I think is going to happen

with Doge and its effect on if not

actually making the changes shining a

light on the issues that need to be

addressed and I will say it is unfair to

Americans for this to be politicized the

Democrats shouldn't make this a

republican issue this is not about

Republicans doing damage this is about

doing the right thing for the government

for the country and the Democrats had an

opportunity to own this issue and

instead they've chosen to oppose it

which makes no sense it is frustrating

and challenging to me as an American to

think that this is even a political

point this should be a what's right for

America point it's almost like we're

going to war war with ourselves with our

bureaucracy with the morass that's been

built up over the last couple of decades

and I'm thrilled that this is happening

and frankly put the put the people aside

maybe it's the fact that you need people

that are as outspoken as challenging as

difficult as these two particular

individuals are going to run this group

but that might be what it takes for it

to happen in the small 18mon window that

they have so I don't know that's my rant

on it yeah great rant and uh we had a

Milton fredman clip go viral and he

spoke exactly about his positions on

what he would eliminate departments like

agriculture Commerce education let's

just play that clip and then there was

obviously the Malay interview by Lex

Freeman earlier this week keep them or

abolish them Department of Agriculture

abolish gone Department of Commerce

abolish gone Department of Defense keep

keep it Department of Education abolish

gone energy abolish Health and Human

Services there is room for some public

health activities to prevent uh uh

contagion will'll eliminate half of the

Department of Health and Human Service

okay one half there we go Housing and

Urban Development down done that's gone

Department of the Interior the problem

there is you first have to sell off all

the land that the government owns but

that's what you should do it could be

done pretty quickly you should do

Department of Justice oh yes keep that

one keep that one labor no gone State

keep keep it Transportation Gone Gone

the treasury you have to keep it to

collect taxes all right collect taxes

through the treasury sax you see that

clip you see the activity going on with

Doge do you think that the machine will

allow what Milton Freeman is describing

there what Javier Malay is doing in

Argentina and what Elon is proposing

with Doge do you think the machine's

going to

allow you know the

wholesale deleting of Department of

Agriculture Department of Education at a

federal level and move all that stuff to

the states what do you think's going to

happen here and how hard will the

machine fight back against this in your

mind because hey you might have some

Republicans some Democrats they fought

really hard to get jobs to get subsidies

to put in factories whatever from the

federal government are they going to

just give that all back the clip is from

1998 by the way Sach your

thoughts well that Milton Freeman clip

as great as it is I mean it really is

outstanding is setting expectations a

little bit too high here I mean we're

not going to be able to wipe out entire

major Departments of the government that

are cabinet level positions I don't

think that's in the cards what mil

Freeman's basically describing as a

night Watchman State and I don't think

we're going to get back to that however

if you look right now at the opinions on

the Legacy Media msdnc CNN all that kind

of stuff they are forecasting that doge

is going to amount to nothing they're

basically saying that the powers that be

in Washington are going to rejected

completely there's somehow going to be a

falling out between Elon and djt they're

just very cynical gjt and then you have

people who are not

necessarily dismissive in that way in

the media but just kind of longtime

Wasington insiders who feel like they've

seen it all before and nothing ever

happens and so they're just very jaded

and cynical so I would say that you know

again I wouldn't have the expectations

of the Milton Freeman level but I think

that the expectations for Doge right now

are being set incredibly Low by the

media and by the Washington insiders and

I think there are good reasons to

believe that the results will surpass

those those low

expectations number one is you've got

Elon Musk running this thing with fa and

Elon understands better than anybody the

impact of delarius regulations on

business so he can really put a

microscope on that he's got the largest

speech platform in the world with x the

largest account on X and he's also built

a get out the vote operation that he

funded in the last election that he's

promised to keep around and potentially

expand so his influence hopefully is not

going anywhere he's going to be able to

keep using that to help keep politicians

on side here right yeah so that's number

one is no one's ever made money betting

against Elon Musk and I don't expect

that to start right now number two is

you got V who is co-head with Elon of

this thing and I think he's a perfect

partner for Elon because V first of all

he's a brilliant guy with a lot of

success in business but he's also a

Harvard trained lawyer he's a brilliant

legal mind and I think you could see in

that oped I suspect the parts that were

citing all those Court decisions were

his influence and so they figured out a

legal road map here it's not just a

matter of kind of going to Congress and

hoping Congress acts they've got a way

here sequentially to do this through the

executive branch through executive

orders going through the court system

they've kind of got a game plan here

that's not entirely reliant on

legislation so I think think

the's influence and and sort of legal

strategic mind is a is a big asset here

and then I think the third reason to be

optimistic is just the fact that this

was printed on the Wall Street Journal

oped page is suggestive in and of itself

what this shows is that this Doge effort

is I think uniting both the kind of

populist reformers and the establishment

types within the party if Elon and aake

were're trying to get a mandate for no

more Forever War I don't think the Wall

Street Journal will be publishing that

right just would not happen so there are

are reasons to believe that this will

not actually divide the party that the

party could building yeah could be yeah

now look every congressman and every

Senator is still going to advocate for

their pork barrel project in their

District or their state and it's going

to be very hard to push back on that

however you could imagine a process like

we had with the base closure commission

when the United States needed to close a

bunch of military bases and they created

a an outside commission to recommend the

cuts and everyone kind of shared the

pain equally maybe do could somehow play

into that for trade a bit yeah so I'm

not saying it's going to be perfect but

I do think that if

Republicans share a principle across

again both these establishment and the

populace side it would be in reducing

unnecessary regulation and the number of

regulators needed the number of

government employees needed to enforce

all those regulations so I'm hopeful

that they'll be able to get something

done within the party and since the

Republicans have the trifecta if they've

got Trump's leadership and they've got

the leadership of the Senate and House

backing it I think they'll be able to

get something done again it's not GNA be

it's not gonna be Milton Freeman level

but I'm optimistic they'll get something

good and important done I think the

easiest thing for them to get done with

doge is the naming the shaming the

auditing the transparency of what we're

actually spending because so many of the

audits Jam off are just not completed

people don't know what's being spent and

if you show Americans a $112,000 hammer

or people with job titles not coming

into the office or coming into the

office one day a week one day a month

that's going to infuriate taxpayers and

I think there's a very easy way to

navigate all this you just create the

leaderboard and you not only shame

people who are wasting our tax dollars

you celebrate the people who are heroes

Who start showing frugality and cost and

they're going to do this with a

leaderboard of the heroes and the goats

this could be the unifying not just the

Republican party as as sax is pointing

out shof I think this could unify the

whole country is there anybody paying

taxes that wants to see money wasted

that wants to see us pay people high

salaries to not come to work shath

what's your take on the sequence of

events here what are easy layups that

they could actually get done and then

where is the machine going to fight and

try to stop this thing I think you

are highlighting something that they can

do right away which I think is very

powerful which is just using these

distribution channels that Elon has now

to create a massive layer of

accountability I do think that Sunshine

is a really incredible disinfectant I

think the best way that they could start

if possible is to stop paying their

vendors until you actually have some

amount of accounting to figure out as

you said how many $600 soap dispensers

are actually being bought and sold now

that kind of whatever you want to call

that corruption or grift it's not going

to account for hundreds of billions or

trillions of dollars but I do think that

it is a very moral and symbolic win that

says we're going we're going to start to

get much more rational and it starts to

allow the average American to actually

feel like they have a little bit of

control and they have a more vested

interest

in how the governments M but I want to I

actually want to take a step back for a

second and before I talk about what Doge

can do I just want to highlight

something that's been going on in

California because I think it it

explains a lot in California and I'm

just going to read this St because it's

incredible the regulatory burden in

California as a state from 1997 to 2015

this is when the data is available that

I found has increased by almost 50%

as of May of

2022 there are almost

61,000 individual regulations in the

state of California so what does that

mean and where does it come from and

Nick if you can just put out the tweet

it has happened over a period of time in

which the government has been the

absolute singular source of employment

in the

state and we talked about this before

where this is also a problem at the

federal level when you look at GDP and

job growth because it looks like a lot

of these jobs are actually fake

manufactured government type jobs so why

is this a problem you've seen in

California the issue that we have is

that if you

have a growth in the number of employees

in this case in California all the job

growth in recent memory has been state

employees what is the byproduct

regulations go up what is the byproduct

of that there are actually no private

sector jobs and more to the point the

private sector flees so now let's bubble

that up and look at the federal

government Nick if you want to just show

that chart that I that I sent you what

is incredible jcal is that the more

people are hired by the

government lo and behold what do you see

the number of regulations issued by

federal agencies has just continued

unabated year in year out you cannot run

a country like

this

so these accumulate right Congress is

doing less and less of a job actually

trying to frame how the country should

work that white space is filled in as

freeberg said by these federal agencies

it compounds and accumulates this is not

replacing laws none of these regulations

have expiry dates and so as a result I

think what you probably have is an

incredible restraint on the US economy I

think that the US economy could be

growing at four or

5% but the reason that it doesn't grow

at four or 5% is in that one single

chart it is impossible to be able to

live up to your economic potential when

you have this burden on your neck so I

think the real opportunity for doge is

to basically do whatever it needs to do

using the law to wipe as many of these

regulations off the books we are better

cutting them all to zero and then

finding the ones we really need and then

repassing those then we are going at

this peace meal and there's some incred

there's some incredible ideas by the way

that this creates Nick I don't know if

you can find this tweet but Doge asked

what people think of the

IRS and there was an enormous amount of

activity that essentially said give us a

flat tax and wipe out the tax

code and people were very flexible in

the of tax that they were willing to pay

but could you imagine the

simplification in the tax code and the

implications of that I was in Singapore

by the way 10 days ago when I started my

trip Nick beep out the name of the

person I'm about to say but I had a long

meeting with who you know is there and I

was asking him the

complexity of dealing with taxes he's

like what do you mean we don't we pay a

very simple tax system there's no

capital gains in Singapore and so as a

result our filing requirements are diim

small but as a result people like him

meaning great entrepreneurs can spend

all their time thinking about what to

build not how not tax optimization

exactly not or how to account for it so

could you imagine if these guys

basically use Doge as a mechanism to

shrink the tax code create a flat tax

potentially I know that that has to be

passed by Congress I understand that but

the idea of just cutting this all the

way down and then finding through that

process what you actually need I think

can find America 100 200 basis points of

GDP growth it could be an economic

Renaissance I mean just to build on that

cutting all the regulations to zero you

might have throw out some babies in the

bath water so why not put a clock on

them and just say whenever this was

enacted plus five years and then it

rolls off or plus two years whatever

number of months and then you could have

them Cham rolling off every month to be

but it I think that's a good idea but

Jal I think you first have to cancel all

these regulations and then say whatever

we need we will reenact P your point on

a five-year shock clock that then has to

be renewed in a new Congressional period

And I think that that's extremely

healthy well because you know what

people die paradigms shift and then

nobody even remembers these regulations

you have to do archaeology to figure out

who created this what was the intent and

you would never do that you would never

live Sachs with all of these rules

forever just one last comment In

fairness to these government

employees the one thing is that it's not

their fault right meaning in the sense

that they were hired into a regime where

the incentive was to regulate so that

you had things to oversee and so they

did their job in fact I would say they

did their job incredibly well but the

point is that now we need to Pivot for

them to do a totally different job well

chath I'll hand this over to free

freeberg freeberg if you were to get R

rid of regulations as somebody working

in the government you might work your

way out of a job so the incentive is

completely perverse and revers to what

we actually need in the country Which is

less regulation more thoughtful

regulation and some process by taking

these things on and off the books and

adapting them to reality yeah this is

where I

think I think we've talked about this

many many times in the past but like all

organizations have a natural tendency to

grow they they want to grow they're not

yes like find me one nonprofit or find

me one University or find me one company

or one government agency that's ever

said my job is to shrink myself it's

never happened so why does that happen

well if you look at the like daytoday

operating role of each individual over

time like all individuals they want to

do more they want to have a bigger

impact they want to have more scale they

want to have more leverage so there's

this natural set of incentives that

drives a lot of choices and operating

procedures on the ground that create

more

more scale more leverage and drive more

hiring everyone wants to become a

manager of people they don't want to

just be doing the same IC job forever

individual contributor job forever so if

they want to be a manager they got to

find more stuff to do and then they got

to hire people to do that stuff so all

of these organizations whether again and

we've all been on Boards of nonprofits

I'm sure and we've all been involved in

this sort of thing there's always this

like incentive to raise more Capital to

hire more people to do more stuff that

sort of it's really unclear until you

really dig into the psychology of each

individual a person working there why

this is happening I don't think that the

federal government is any different each

of these people feel they want to be

more important they want to have a

bigger role they want to have a bigger

impact J if your job direct

directionally is to regulate then what's

the scaler on regulation more regulation

so therefore to do more you have to

regulate more there's no regulator that

says I want to regulate less over time

because we've created a system that's

one directional so you have to have

these resets if you don't have them

naturally they're going to happen

unnaturally in the form of social unrest

and breakdowns of the economy and

collapse of social structures all these

other things that happen way way down or

as chamat is pointing out in California

in the economic structure of California

which I think is happening on a kind of

national scale because of the outsid

role the federal government plays in our

national economy here today so so you

have to have these unnatural forces come

in and and do this Readjustment from

time to time otherwise it's just going

to break on its own and mle in Argentina

has basically I don't know a year or an

18-month head start on us and has been

doing this he did a great podcast with

Lex

pedman they translated it actually they

dubbed it which is kind of interesting

technology and in this discussion they

talked about reducing the Ministries

agencies from 20 to 8 they fired 50,000

government workers 15% of the total

Workforce there were 341,000 when he

started they implemented daily

deregulation process to remove

inefficient policies so they just do

that day in and day out they ended

discretionary payments to provinces and

cities that restored Market driven

utility prices no more subsidies yada

yada y Right Down the Line sax your

thoughts

on how many months it will take to do

this and there's this this discussion

and I don't know if that's from inside

the Trump administration of hey we got

to get this done in 18 months we got to

get this done in 18 months What can you

tell us about the the sense of urgency

about getting this done

quickly and and why that's occurring

well I think Elon and V have announced

that Doge will be sunsetting or

disbanding at the 250th anniversary of

America which would be July 4th of

2026 so they've only given themselves

about what's that 18 months yep which

kind of makes sense right that's leading

into the midterms right right exactly

you tend to have the most momentum

coming off an election like this one

where you have the trifecta so I think

it makes a lot of sense that they're

going to be able to have the greatest

impact let's say in the first year after

the new president of Congress gets sworn

in how do you get Democrats in on this

sax how do you push them to join the

party to to join the movement to be more

efficient to be more transparent is

there a possibility for us to get some

coordination here with the other side or

no

you might be able to get some support of

particular Democrats on particular

things I don't want to say that it's not

possible difficult but not not

impossible but look I think what melee

has done in Argentina is remarkable I

mean that was a country that was a total

basket case inflation was out of control

it's already because of the cuts he's

made they now have a more normal

inflation rate and they've gone from

basically being uninvestable to

investable as as a country now the

United States is not the basket case

that Argentina is but we are on an

unsustainable fiscal trajectory doge is

also not going to have the power that

mle has it's not going to have the

degrees of freedom to act but we also

don't have as big a problem what we need

to do is just bend our fiscal curve from

being unsustainable to being sustainable

and if we can do that it'll have a huge

impact on the economy specifically what

we saw in the last election the thing

that probably hurt the Democrat the most

was inflation voters clearly do not like

inflation they do not like the

diminishment of their purchasing power

but how do you stop inflation you have

to raise interest rates and that's not

good either because that raises the cost

of a mortgage that raises the cost of a

car payment is bad for investment right

because if interest rates are higher

then that means the discount rate on

stocks and real estate on every

investment class basically is higher and

the hurdle rate for Investments higher

so high interest rates are also bad for

the economy so how do you get out of

that box where you either have high

inflation or high interest rates the

only way is to bend the fiscal curve to

that more sustainable path and if you

can and if you can do that the bond

markets will actually give you credit

for it in advance because they know

because they know that they're not GNA

be flooded with the need to keep funding

all of this US Government debt so we

either get to kind of you know startups

have the saying by being either default

alive or default Dead We either get to

default sustainable or default

unsustainable right now we're

unsustainable the bond markets know it

inflation remains persistently high

around 3% the FED has not been able to

cut interest rates the way that they

expected to remember the markets were

expecting seven Cuts this year we got

basically three we got a 50 and a 25 so

it's just hasn't been the cuts that

people were expecting and that's because

inflation hasn't come down as much as

people thought so if Doge working with

the rest of the government om the

treasury Congress executive orders can

now convince the markets that the US

Financial picture is more sustainable

we'll get credit for that interest rates

will come down and that'll lead to a

boom in the economy so it's all win-win

if they can pull this off prre any final

thoughts here before we move on from

Doge wishing Elon and v as much success

as possible we've really I mean

everybody should be rooting for this you

want to give us your final

thoughts I feel like America is Neo from

The Matrix where there was like a

thousand bullets being shot at America

and we like literally had to dodge every

single one of them in order to get to

this this point I again I am so shocked

and surprised in a positive way that we

ended up on this particular timeline

look everything had to go the way it

went for this to have happened Biden

decided to run for re-election Biden

stayed in too long they didn't run a

primary they put kamla in Elon got off

the fences switch parties Elon decided

to throw 100 million bucks at the

problem Elon bought

Twitter China had a real estate bubble I

mean you can go down the list of things

that had to go right for us to get to

this very moment where a small group of

people have recognized the fiscal death

spiral that the United States federal

government has been in and have the

Authority and the capacity and the skill

to be able to go and execute against a

solution I have no idea how this could

have been architected maybe saak knew

all along and I convinced him two years

ago that this was how things had to go

and he's been designing it like emper

talking about Ray doio in the end of the

empire for three years podcast maybe you

did it freeberg we remember when when we

talked with doo about this he's like

been hand and also around the the

relationship with China which I think

this is all very tightly related we may

have dodged a lot of bullets and and if

the United States can get its house in

order reduce federal spending while

increasing um economic activity uh it

can be a tremendous unlock for the US

and for world pieace so because again I

think that conflict arises when when we

don't have our own fiscal housing order

and so I feel very positive more more

surprised and positive than I was a year

ago six months ago it's just amazing

we're on this timeline and I do think

the United States as Neo dodged a lot of

bullets here absolutely fre I told you

everything was proceeding as I had

foreseen the emperor you know what

happened to the tenure and Elon and VI

wrote that essay I actually don't what

happened yields contracted by five basis

points you know what the value of that

is couple billion 15 billion per year

yeah yeah so so I think that it was

probably a hundred billion doll essay

just writing it I think you will find

that this doge is quite

operational I mean it I think it's got a

chance I mean if you I just wish it

weren't political right I I want I want

all I want all Americans and Democrats

to stand up and say this is the right

thing for the United States forget about

the fact the problem the essay saved us

a 100 billion just the essay

here you're going to have to be very

strategic true about how they detailed

what they're doing pick the the Doge

team's just going to have to be very

strategic to pick things that are

consensus building that don't make

people feel like this is going to grind

the poor more and make the rich richer

that's the expectation that's going to

be the negative framing on this I

predict which is just a bunch of Rich

guys making Cuts talking their books

making cuts for things that are their

pet projects their Investments they have

to come out and not make it that they

have to make it here's inefficiency

here's inefficiency here's inefficiency

and a great way to do that would be to

say the efficiency gains and the tax

cuts are going to go to people making

let's say under

$250,000 these are not and these cuts

are not being made just to make the rich

richer that's going to be the

framing you think that don't you think

that that's going to happen no matter

what what which part of it that they're

going to say that no matter what so I I

actually disagree with the first part of

what you said I agree with you that the

media the mainstream media will try to

characterize this as hurting the poor

agree and I'm not sure yet whether still

or not yeah but I think the first part I

disagree with is I don't think they

should operate towards consensus I think

that they should do what's right well

you could do what's right and you could

start with things that are the most

wasteful like if you start cutting kids

lunches or pel grants or you start

cutting people's jobs to in healthcare

education that people perceive are

helping people I think you're going to

just feed into this narrative that it's

a way to cut taxes on rich people and

you know what you do need to build

consensus how does that cut taxes on

rich

people if you cut regulations and a

bunch of our companies benefit from it

just to be self-aware the framing is

already that this is an effort for

companies that we invest in to have less

regulation to make the equity holders in

those companies more Rich you have to

make sure that the hold on have to make

sure the saving is for all Americans and

that all Americans benefit from it and

the way they benefit it the best framing

they could do is your taxes are going to

be lower because you're not wasting your

tax dollars if they can keep to that not

hey we're moving regulations so that our

companies I to be honest biger being a

hairdresser requires more regulation

than being any one of most of my

companies so I actually think it benefit

I think it benefits other people way way

more than it benefits me and you have to

show it is my point show it that's the

point is you have to show people that

you're doing this for everybody not just

for the people on this podcast and our

friends that's going to be the key what

sham just said is so important there's a

great interview I've mentioned this in

the past between Tim Ferris and Charles

KO from a couple years ago where he

brings up this exact example yes about

how regulatory burdens make it difficult

for women to become hairdressers it's

like $7,000 so they don't have the

capital to do that because of the

regulatory burden to get there think

about building building your home or you

know like let's say you want to change

put shower in your bathroom change the

shower in your bathroom you don't want

to spend $115,000 on all the permitting

regulatory stuff to make that happen

it's going to unlock value for everyone

that's a small example of kind of a

regulatory problem but this benefits

everyone and the cost of Transportation

will come to communicate that you have

to be able to communicate that and

that's where using platform but show up

perfect job of communicating this to

people and that's the Playbook freeberg

that's my point people are going to

fight this you have to convince them you

have to show them that this is helping

every can we just agree that there okay

but that's different than how you

started you said only work on consensus

projects I age no I didn't say that I I

think you have to highlight those do

them first I said do those first make

sure that people understand this is to

save them money I'm not saying that you

don't change regulations for spaceships

and self-driving cars as well but you

have to make sure you show people that

this can benefit them or else they're

going to just fight it and and that's

it's going to be the whole all this

effort will be for not if you if you get

a bunch of Republicans sacks Who start

fighting this and you have a splintering

in your party because they feel like

this is in helping their local

constituents this whole thing could be

for not that that's my that story that

you told is going to be told by the

Legacy Media and all the haters and the

enemies regardless of what Elon do I

don't think so I think win people

over you show people you show people

haters you're not going you show I'm

talking about the public who votes we

already won the election now is the time

to implement when you show people

$22,000 you know Hammers and wasted

money you will get a 100% of Americans

backing this not 60 minut been doing

that for 30 years nothing's happened we

got to just act now yeah act and bring

people along with Communications I mean

if you got if your communicate poorly

great go for it yeah I'm not saying that

communication isn't part of the job in

fact this whole conversation started by

us talking about an oped

that Elon and V wrote correct they lay

out in which they're laying out their

objectives and they're doing podcasts

and Elon has the biggest platform in the

world and biggest following so I just

don't think communication is going to be

the problem but you're also not going to

be able to convince everyone and you

know we've already won the election and

now is the time to figure out very

strategically how to implement as much

as possible be humble by two million

votes keep it in mind you have to bring

everybody along okay you know what if

the media was fair it would have been 20

million votes for Trump to have won

under these circumstances and he won the

trifecta it's impressive nobody saying

it's not minimize it I'm not minimizing

it I'm just saying be aware there's 74

million people who are rooting against

Trump and I think getting some them on

that's not true that's not true I think

there's a decent number of people who

are probably very upset that you know

Trump won just like last time they were

upset that Biden won including all

Americans in this is the most virtuous

thing you can do I think it's der I

think I think it's deranged the idea

that 74 million people are actually

rooting against him I don't think that

that's true I they feel good that they

lost people don't feel good about losing

bringing those people on board is

virtuous dude there's already a shi in

the country have you seen the Trump

Dance I mean there's been such a sh

let's see it let's see it I'm not going

to do it right now but there's been such

a huge Vibe shift the energy is so

optimistic right now

the energy right now is incredible and I

think people are feeling much more

optimistic can you imagine what a downer

would have be if like we were expecting

president KLA Harris to take the oath of

office it would be a downer it would be

a downer to me if they were still

pushing a 7.2 trillion dollar federal

budget next year it that would be a

downer and by the way I think that

there's a deeply linked relationship

between social issues economic issues

political policies and foreign conflict

they all seem like they're four

different things but they're so tightly

interwound and it's interesting how

everything kind of moves together with

the shift in who ended up winning

winning this election cycle and I think

it really speaks to the relationship

between the four well by the way there's

a great meme that was floating around

where it showed a photo of trump Elon

Bobby Kennedy and tulsey Gabbert and it

said that all four of the field used to

be Democrats yep yep you know demat in

it I tweeted that it used it used to be

that that Democrats were Progressive

Progressive means progress looking

forward and the last decade the last

couple years in particular I think a lot

of people that I know that are former

Democrats jamat you can speak for

yourself feel like the Democrats stopped

looking forward and it was all about

trying to

like and grievance and victim culture

and all of a sudden you've got guys like

Elon promoting themselves as Republicans

highlighting that it's all the this is

the party that looks forward this is the

party that drives progress it's an

amazing

shift I don't know if there's been

anything like it that's happened this

quickly I voted more to make America

great again than I did vote for being a

republican I I think that the Republican

party right

totally is is less important than it's

ever been and I think Maga is more

important than it's ever been I agree

and I'd say the biggest RIS of the whole

agenda probably is not the Democrats

it's actually some of these old Bulls in

Cong

who are anti- Maga for some reason Trump

is the one who just won the trifecta he

just won this big election if you stick

with the old Republican message you're

just a shorefire loser so give Trump his

due as the leader of the party realize

it's now a magga party and let's get

some things

done if the reform agenda fails to be

frank it probably is not going to be the

Democrats it's probably going to be

these holdouts in the Republican party

for it yeah yeah yeah that was my

question earlier I think I asked it

twice I didn't get anybody to engage in

it how do you convince them how are they

being brought on board to this if they

have all this pork barrel spending is

there a strategy there or do you have a

strategy I think saak laid it out which

is that if you use the combination of

the carrot and the stick I think the

carrot

is creating

transparency and I think the other part

of the carrot is you'll have now an

extremely well-funded pack that can

support people who are on board with

this agenda but the stick is if you

don't I think that if Elon makes this a

really concerted long-term part of his

strategy then I think you should run

candidates who actually are aligned with

the agenda that the make America great

again movement wants so I think that's

the carrot and stick Jason which is like

some of these old Republicans will have

to decide do I basically help invest in

a renewal of the American Spirit or do I

keep pushing back because I like the way

it was and want to go to war and I want

to Cozy up to these lobbyists I think

those folks are going to have a very

tough four and eight years because I

think you'll see a bunch of magga

candidates rising up to run against them

everywhere in the United States as you

can see my Young Apprentice your friends

have failed now witness the Firepower of

this fully armed and operational battle

station man I said be humble like three

times it's none of it sinking in huh no

I just explained I explained the risk I

I've been very clear you're not going to

get Milton Freeman okay you're not going

to get Javier Malay what we can

hopefully get is a bending of the curve

toward

sustainable I'm setting my expectations

to be realistic okay I mean breaking

even would be great if we do just

weren't adding to the debt that would be

amazing look if if if the federal budget

gets to three

trillion and regulation gets cut if you

get 50% of the regulation in federal

agencies cut I think you unleash an

economic Sonic Boom I'm all in I think

it's the greatest thing that could ever

happen my gosh could you imagine America

clocking in regat I mean how much are

you guys stuck with companies zero I'm

dealing with regulatory the regulatory

stuff is brutal man it's like it's legit

brain like melting sh tell me your

number one regulatory frustration we

could go around the horn this is a topic

actually I don't have any I think I'm

very blessed to work in an industry

that's very light with regulation I

think it affects many many other

industries that if they were Unleashed

could contribute to American G

Construction I also think regulations

are very regressive because they touch

poor and middle inome people way more

than it touch folks like me rip these

regulations out two regulations that do

affect you crypto regulation and capital

formation both of those things are they

haven't hurt me they haven't hurt me

this my point you but they definitely

are the economy right I can snap a

finger and raise a couple billion

dollars that is not it's so I'm in a

unique position and I and I recognize

that what is much harder is if you're

trying to be an electrician if you're

trying to be a hairdresser if you're

trying to be a massage therapist when

you have to spend 15 20 30% of your

salary on lure why totally why do we

need these stupid rules if if you're a

person that's trying to like construct

home why does it take six and eight

weeks to get permits approved why and

there are no good answers for these

things so forget about me like it

doesn't matter about me but the mainline

part of the United States economy as I

said before is a coiled spring if you

get rid of those regulations it

disproportionately impacts middle inome

and lower middle inome jobs this is why

if you if you see if you see GDP if

America clocks in GDP at four to four

and a half percent

watch out folks Sonic Boom watch out

I'll give you two really simple ones

allowing everybody in the United States

to participate in company formation

would change everything 95% of the

company cannot participate in investing

in startups or any you know new compan

czy the accreditation L I think more

massive freedom to operate just freedom

to do stuff you want that's what it is I

mean you're free to go to Vegas and

gamble you're free to you know play you

know online you're free to buy Bitcoin

you're not free to buy you are free to

buy Bitcoin you can buy Bitcoin you can

yeah but you're not afraid to create a

token right there should be some clear

path of Regulation I think there's many

more traditional forms of economic

growth that we can have before we need

to make icos legal and easier I I want

to say something I think that the person

that runs for governor in California

should commit to cutting those 65,000

regulations down to 10,000 as

needed to replacing the DMV with a

digital app and to cut taxes to near

zero and to create school choice whoever

does that incredible will create a

Renaissance in California it's the fifth

largest economy in the world folks and

it can be a bellweather for the rest of

the world well you know there there's a

lot of scuttlebutt online that Nicole

Shanahan's going to run for governor of

California and I'd be in favor of that I

would say that of all the political

personalities involved in the election

over the past year she gets my most

improved award I remember when like

Bobby named her to his ticket I was a

little bit skeptical of that choice

because of some of the causes that she

had identified with or donated to in the

past but she I think has ended up being

a star she's pretty based she's a star

yeah totally I mean she's she's red

pilled and ended up

supporting Maha and Maga and I don't

think we're going to get anyone better

in California so if she's willing to do

it and take it on that'd be awesome SX

what about you you don't want you don't

want that that

Mansion that'd be a significant

downgrade for me I about to say you took

the joke right out before I got to it

damn it that was such an easy one yeah

you could live in the governor's mansion

also known as smer than your guest

house that would be your backup man cave

well actually that's happened people

have in New York I remember one of the

governors was like yeah yeah you know

I'm good I don't need to live in the

Mansion where do you want to go next

boys we we have other things on the

docket would you like to go to our war

correspondent would you like to go

Chrome Google breakup would you like to

go Nvidia where would you like to go

World War III I think is important sax

you put World War II on the docket would

you like to te it up for us yeah sure

well there's a several events that have

happened in reasonably close succession

the the first thing to understand is

what's happening on the ground in

Ukraine the ukrainians been losing

territory and Accel ating Pace there's

an excellent graphic in the New York

Times that I'll put on the screen that

shows this is not a stalemate remember I

said on this

podcast six months or a year ago that it

was no longer a stalemate it was a war

of attrition in which the ukrainians

were now losing and every single month

now the Russians are taking more and

more territory again the curve is

accelerating we had all invest in a

business who had a growth curve that

looked like this so not good news for

the ukrainians in response to that I

think that's fundamentally the condition

on the ground that's created the next

set of actions which is the Biden

Administration finally approved the use

of longrange missiles attack's missiles

storm Shadows to hit territory deep

inside of Russia the Russians believe

and I don't know whether this is true or

not but what they say is that those

weapons cannot be operated without

Americans or

British operators being there to you

know they're too complicated for the

ukrainians just to use on their own so

they the Russians view this as not just

a direct attack on their Homeland on

their motherland but also a direct

involvement by the NATO allies United

States and Britain in the war and that

is a big

escalation you know a lot of people say

that the Russians have all these red

lines we keep Crossing them and they

don't do anything that's not true if you

actually listen to what the Russians

have said there's only been two red

lines the first red line was they said

they would not accept NATO expanding to

Ukraine and they proved their

seriousness on that issue by invading

Ukraine in February of 2022 the second

red line is they said that they would

not accept American long-range missiles

being used to Target inside of Russia

and that line has now been crossed so

this leads us to the next set of events

which is Russia just used what may be

some people are saying it's an ICBM but

it probably is more likely to be not an

InterContinental but an intermediate

range

ballistic missile that hit a Ukrainian

City and it's obviously it didn't carry

a nuclear payload but it's the type of

of ballistic missile that is used to

carry nuclear weapons there are a couple

of features of this that I think are

really important number one it's a

Hypersonic missile it hit the target at

something like mach 10 what that means

is that it just can't be intercepted

it's too fast the the west and the

United States in particular does not as

far as we know have a tech techology to

intercept a Hypersonic missile like that

the second is that it had what's called

a

MV Warhead or payload MV is multiple

independently targeted re-entry Vehicles

basically what it means is the Warhead

splits up right when it gets close to

the ground it splits into six separate

warheads and the reason for this is I

understand it is diabolical again it's

just if you're launching nuclear weapon

it just makes it that much harder to now

intercept it because now you've got six

Warheads hitting you instead of just one

so I

mean as I understand a missile like this

has never been used before and what the

Russians are doing obviously is sending

us a signal and what that message is is

that they're saying we have the means to

hit any European city or any European

asset with a Hypersonic missile that you

can't stop that may or may not have a

nuclear warhead attached to it and is

it's just a way of them expressing their

seriousness and displeasure and and and

reacting to and escalating in response

to the fact that we are now allowing

Western missiles to be hitting targets

deep inside of Russia so the bottom line

is this war is escalating it's

escalating nowhere good and at some

point soon yeah it's really we're gonna

have to get off of this escalatory

ladder to or we're going to end up in a

really disastrous place and just the

last final point is it's absolutely

remarkable that Biden decided to take us

to this place with what just 6 weeks

left in his term completely I mean as a

lame duck president what is his mandate

for doing that for taking this

extraordinary risk on behalf of the

country the voters just voted for Trump

who made it really clear he wanted to

end the war and Biden and his team have

unilaterally now escalated this war they

did it without consulting with Trump's

team at least that's what was publicly

reported is there was no briefing set up

for Trump's transition team

so you have here Biden his team taking a

unilateral action to expand and escalate

this war even when he's a lame duck

president and the question you have to

ask is why what is the point of this

well I think it's just completely

deranged because it's not just that for

forget Biden and Trump for a second if

you take a step back what was voted in

was to end this war and for the United

States to get our hands out of it so you

couldn't have a clear message to the

sitting president in the white house

which is this is not what Americans want

and so to basically ignore the will of

the voters and to essentially go and

push another country into the brink I

think is so incredibly responsible and

you know other times we've said in the

past take Donald Trump seriously but not

literally Russia you should take

seriously and

literally because they actually write it

down for you and tell you and so when

they said Every Act of aggression from

now on is going to be viewed by us on a

lookth through basis to the actual

country that is enabling this to happen

you couldn't be more clear but Americans

couldn't have been more clear which is

we don't want this war

anymore and I just think it's really

deranged what the Biden White House is

doing it's incredibly Dangerous by the

way not to mention it's incredibly

costly as well I mean we've had like

some last minute efforts to sort of Tamp

down on these last minute budget

approvals and whatnot but we're talking

about tens and hundreds of billions of

dollars that we're giving on top of the

risk of of nuclear escalation I just

think it's absolutely crazy it's

absolutely crazy Putin is not a dummy he

has heard and seen Trump's campaign

rhetoric and sax I don't know if this is

this has been publicly reported that he

had a call with with Trump after the uh

the election Victory does Putin not see

that in a couple of weeks a couple

months there will be new leadership in

the white house and there's going to be

a path to a resolution

here like does that not give us all a

little bit of reprieve that this is not

going to escalate because everyone's

waiting for January 20th oh I mean for

sure I mean thank goodness I would say

that we have a new president coming in

who does not own this War I mean the

problem with Biden is that he completely

owns this war and he does not want to

admit defeat and so what you've seen is

that over the last couple of years every

weapon system that Biden said he

wouldn't give to Ukraine because it

could literally cause World War III

these are Biden's words he said it could

be Armageddon if we gave Ukraine f-16s

it could be Armageddon if we gave them

Abrams Tanks it would be Armageddon if

we gave them himars and attacks and

could lead to World War III if we let

them hit targets inside of Russia these

are Biden's words and he has basically

given in on every single one of those

points because he's so committed to this

policy right he's he's in the Quagmire

he can only double down he doesn't to

extricate himself and now we don't know

exactly what KLA Harris would have done

but I think probably she would have

inherited Joe bid's policy and likely

continued it and I think we have a

wonderful opportunity here with Trump

taking office he doesn't own this policy

he can look at it with fresh eyes and

most importantly he campaigned on ending

the war so he has the Mandate of the

American people to stop it all I can say

is thank goodness and we just need to

get through the next two months we just

need to get to January 20th without

there being some new horrible escalation

in this

war he's B Joe Biden is marting galing

that's his strategy for the Ukraine

Russia War just keep doubling down and

doubling down down oh yeah do you want

to explain what that is oh yeah sorry

Martin giling is a strategy in gambling

where let's just say you know you start

betting a dollar and you lose your next

bet is $2 doll if you lose your next bet

is $4 if you lose your next bet is $8

and eventually you'll win once is the

theory

but there's many times where

Mortin but you only WI a

dollar so you could be betting you know

80 you know 40 bucks 80 bucks $160 $320

and then you finally win and you win a

dollar right or or you go broke that's a

great analogy because you can also go

broke right this is why they have caps

at the roulette table one time I would

do this that's why all casinos have a

Max yeah exactly so I would do this as a

joke with my wife or when I was at the

world serice a poker i' be like I'll go

pay for dinner or lunch or whatever and

I put $100 on black lose put 200 on

black win go pay for lunch and I did it

one time with the WSOP and I went 100

200 400

800600 I ran out of cash I got 3,200

from my friend I put it down the floor

man came over and said that's your last

bet oh no my buddy and I my budy and I

would if you do this yeah in our college

Years early 20s we would go to drink for

free at the casino you just sit at the

blackj table

just table and watch your drink this was

this was a long time ago happened last

year I would well I mean if you bet a

dollar then you bet two bucks you can

just keep drinking for free for like two

or three hours then go out and enjoy

your night you've made 15 bucks and call

it did I tell you about the losing a

million dollars playing roulette

no me Nick you got to beep up the names

me it was me and and oh you did tell me

this you did tell me this yeah this is

so good says guys I've developed a

system it's full oh

no that's always what happens before you

lose a million somebody says that it's

like we need to risk a million we can

win like two or

three and it's like

99.996%

so so I say to them so are you really

telling me that we just have to fade

0.004% chance of like total loss and he

says yep well guess what hit the 4% shot

me totally and and it was devastating I

just kept looking at this thing like

what just happened he's like oh we lost

yeah and I was like there it is folks

never again I've never gonna play

roulette again I think the gambling

analogies are the right analogies

because I look I'm not saying World War

II is going to happen I've never said

World War II is going to happen I'm

saying that there's a risk of World War

II and I don't need the risk to be very

high to be very worried about it because

it would be such a disaster outome right

totally exactly so I want to minimize

risk of Ruin I want to exactly I want

there to be hopefully a zero risk of

that but you know what's interesting is

remember just like a week or two ago

president Trump made that trip to DC and

he met with Biden in the Oval Office and

Biden had this he was like all smiles

and I'm everyone's like wondering why is

he so happy and the speculation was that

he somehow wanted to Common a lose or

something but now you think back on this

he must have known he was about to

authorize this decision

so what he's doing here he's grin he's

grin Trump he knows he's about to give

Trump this horrible hand right he's

about to make this situation in Ukraine

so much worse so that Trump will have to

inherit this mess that is like the

definition of

grin yeah he definitely knew more than

that picture L on because a the

interpretation of that picture was they

are getting along he's being super

gracious what an incredible gesture it

just looked like

yeah he promised a smooth transition of

power and then we find out that he

didn't confer with his successor about

this

extraordinarily meaningful decision to

escalate the war escalation yeah it's

like that's just crazy it's crazy you

guys want to do science corner I got one

for you yeah yeah it all right your

super fans are desperate for a science

Corner give him one freeor give him

something all right I will give you guys

something here here's a depressing paper

that was published in the journal Nature

just this week research team out of

Switzerland going over to the Swiss

where they are conducting extraordinary

research in the epigenetics of fat cells

in oh so we're going to Fat shame me on

the uh science Corner go ahead great no

we're actually going to understand

perhaps why it is difficult for people

that have been overweight yes to keep

the weight off I did read this and I I

think it's fascinating yeah explain it

it is it is really incredible so

remember we've talked about this many

times in the past but every cell has

your whole all your DNA all your genes

and certain genes are turned on or off

in different cells and those genes being

on or off differentiates those cells and

causes them to act differently that's

the difference between an eye cell and a

skin cell and a heart cell is they have

different genes that are up regulated

down regulated turned on and turned off

and even when you have different kinds

of cells you have certain genes that are

overexpressed or underexpressed or over

regulated up regulated or down regulated

so that means that those genes are

turning pumping out certain proteins

that do certain things in that

particular cell so what these folks did

is they wanted to understand what is the

EPO meaning what are the genes that are

turned on or off or up regulated or down

regulated in fat tissue in fat

cells and does the epigenome change when

an individual loses weight so once

they're obese and they lose weight do

the fat cells actually change their

epigenome or do they have an epigenetic

memory meaning that those cells even

though the person has lost weight those

cells still continue to act as if that

person were obese so I'll tell you in

humans they basically took five

individuals that were obese and lost

more than 25% BMI and they looked at the

epome they looked at the markers of what

genes are UL and down regulated before

and after they lost the weight after

they lost the weight there were a set of

markers that were still upregulated that

are associated with poor metabolism an

increased fibrosis and increased

cellular death so these are inflammatory

genes these are genes that are

associated with the cells being

inefficient at utilizing glucose to

create energy and so these cells

contined to act like slow dying cells

even after the person lost weight and

they did the same thing in and they

found similar results that they caused

these mice to gain weight looked at the

epome of the fat cells and then looked

at the epigenome after they lost the

weight and again the mouse epigenome

continued to act as if the mouse was

obese and what this means is that the

metabolism remained reduced fibrosis

remained elevated and likelihood of cell

death remained elevated so now they

applied glucose in a Petri dish to those

cells and they saw that the glucose had

a harder time being fully being

appropriately utilized from a healthy

fat cell that hadn't been obese so it

actually permanently alters and creates

an epigenetic memory in the fat cells

after obesity and this could explain

pretty significantly why when people

that have been obese lose the weight

they are more likely to gain the weight

back and have a hard keeping the weight

off you're referring to yes and that

makes total sense because anybody who's

added weight chth if that you add but

you know you eat one extra Oreo a week

that's 3,500 calories you do that over

20 years all of a sudden you wake up one

day you're 20 30 pounds overweight like

I was three or four years ago and this

is why I think OIC and wovi and mouro

and all these things are so great

because it does seem like it breaks you

through that

no the problem but we we do see in all

those results that when you go off of

The glp1 Agonist drugs you gain the

weight back very quickly this is some

amount of yeah not the total amount it's

a pretty significant bounce back effect

so and this is pretty well

documented and so I think that it speaks

to the why now it also introduces an

opportunity there are molecules that can

turn certain genes on or off can now be

identified and utilized to change that

epigenetic memory so now flip that

switch in

addition exactly this could arise from

things like increased exercise it turns

out that when you do significant amounts

of cardiovascular exercise there are

certain genes that are expressed that

trigger gen to switch on or off and so

we can start to identify those

particular

molecules and produce either supplements

or additional drugs or combo therapies

that can both knock the weight off and

keep it off by changing we tic memory in

those cells wow and so it introduces a

whole new class of opportunity for folks

to explore how do we help folks that are

obese lose the weight and then flip the

switch that they can keep the weight off

I've been doing rocking this is like the

old man activity that Peter AA and these

guys are all put weights on and you like

go walk I wear a I I started with a 10

pound weight vest now I'm at 35 pounds I

I do a mile and a half hike every day

with 35 pounds on man I fall asleep

immediately and the the amount of

intensity that puts on your body you do

it right before you go to bed no no I do

it anytime during the day but I'm just

saying it's it's I'm I'm focused on four

things right now with my health diet

sleep exercise meditation and I I try to

do four each day but the rucking

specifically in this Zone 2 stuff is

what they say 40 50y olds should focus

on so that's what I'm focused on but

that rucking man does it make your whole

body strong I highly recommend it it's

really transformative my meditation is

reading Doge ESS for chamath popatia

German dictator 8090 he's running a

software company services company great

look at you in the driver's seat David

fredberg your suant of science working

on ohal and the architect the Rainman

yeah definitely David sax from Craft

Ventures and maybe it's going to be

involved in Doge I I wouldn't be

surprised if we see a sax Doge uh hook

up in the future I don't know I'm taking

a guess here I am your host here Jason

calanis we'll see you all on December

7th live or in person by the way did you

guys Holiday Spectacular did you see

this tweet from Brian Johnson he tweeted

out all of his blood levels this is

incredible I love this guy look at these

results they're incredible if he can

break this down into like a turnkey

thing that normal folks like us can

follow for people who don't know what

this kid's doing is he is spending like

$3 million a year or something to that

effect on his own personal health

documenting it sharing it everything

from sleep to his bone density

everything is an open book and uh he's

made some products out of it as well so

you you can you can eat his pudding too

if if you're interested in it but I

don't think it's as good as how do you

follow his regimen you know what I mean

like it just seems too hard you can't

have a job I mean he's doing it's like

he's got two jobs right now doing all

this stuff his biomarkers are showing

he's 10 years younger than his actual

biological

age dude look at some of these results

his his speed of Aging he says his

birthday now happens every 19 months

what

the freeberg

I mean freeberg do you you look at what

do you think here science uh from a

science perspective any thoughts on all

this well I think his nighttime erection

rate is pretty impressive not three

hours and8 minutes for a nighttime

erection that is he reading is he

reading uh Elon and V's opad colum what

slowly he's reading it very

slowly wow he's got a 240 lb bench press

and an 800 lb leg press Jesus he looks

like he's dead though though that's the

only problem with he's so pale sax has

got to go djt online too we'll see you

all next time on the love byee love

you let your winners

ride Rainman

David and instead we open source it to

the fans and they've just gone crazy

with it love you queen of

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