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No music, no walk-on music.

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No roaring applause.

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I'm just saying that

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I'm not used

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to coming to work in this way.

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This total silence.

0:20

I'm just kidding.

0:22

There were a lot of Taylor Swift comments

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along the way,

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so the crowd is ready.

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This conference needs humor too.

0:28

Is humor allowed here?

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Humor is very allowed.

0:30

I made investment

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banking jokes yesterday Jensen but,

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thank you for being here for the last

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I think, 25-27 years.

0:40

You've been such a great supporter

0:43

of this conference.

0:45

I think we sometimes become numb

0:47

to the scale of the numbers

0:50

and the transformation

0:51

we're experiencing.

0:52

I don't think I'm

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the only one in this audience.

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I'm getting billions and trillions

0:56

confused constantly.

0:58

My partner,

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Mark Edelstone and I,

1:01

27 years ago we sat on a stage

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much smaller than this one on the

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Morgan Stanley trading floor

1:08

and we announced

1:10

and introduced Nvidia and you

1:14

to the Morgan Stanley sales force

1:16

and believe it or not

1:19

$48 million IPO,

1:22

1998 revenue.

1:30

Trailing revenue: $30 million.

1:34

Jensen and his team, Colette,

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were so generous two years ago,

1:38

you hosted our board meeting

1:40

in your headquarters.

1:41

I think you had just announced

1:42

a $30 billion quarter,

1:46

in terms of revenue

1:47

and then last week

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a $46 billion net income quarter,

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so we moved from years to quarters,

1:54

from millions to billions.

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It's really amazing, an unprecedented

2:01

scale and growth.

2:04

And then you changed our lives.

2:06

You changed our lives,

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and so I guess my question after that is

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what had to come together strategically,

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culturally, technically to deliver

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that type of hypergrowth at scale?

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And the scale is really astounding.

2:21

And again, thank you.

2:22

That's going to take 37 minutes

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and 13 seconds.

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Slightly more.

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You know, obviously

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Nvidia wasn't built overnight.

2:30

It's taken us 33 years.

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I sort of remember

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somehow that when we went public

2:35

our price was $13

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and I just read here it's $12.

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I overstated it, I remembered it

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to be much more

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optimistically than it was actually.

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The company's valuation at the time,

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I think was like $300 million.

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And,

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Mark did such a good job, Mark Edelstone,

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did such a good job preparing

2:53

all of our investors

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that they really only had one question.

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It was literally a

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one-question IPO roadshow

3:00

and the question was

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when are you going out of business?

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I'm not kidding.

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and that exact question

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is about as hard to answer

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as the one you just gave me.

3:16

Well, the answer is

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the answer is, as it turns out,

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we started the company with the idea

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of creating a new computing platform,

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a new way of doing computing

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and not that the old way was wrong,

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it's just that the new way,

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a new way is essential

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to solve some unique problems

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and the type of things that we were

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extremely good at are algorithms,

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algorithms, because the inner loop

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of the software tends to be about 5%

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of the code but 99% of the compute time.

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And back then, the algorithms

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in the world of computers was quite rare

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and one of the most important algorithms

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was computer graphics.

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The simulation of light

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and how light travels

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through space.

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And so,

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while computer graphics

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was used for things like animation movies,

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animation movies of course,

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at the time that we were founded,

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the cover of

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I forget which magazine was,

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you know, Jurassic Park was there.

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And so it was really,

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it was during that time

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where computer graphics was becoming

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more capable

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and we could simulate, you know,

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virtual reality with it

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and we applied it to creating a new industry,

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which did not exist at the time, called

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video games.

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And so 3D graphics was...

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it modernized in my time,

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consumerized in my time and,

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and the whole video game

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industry was created in my time.

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And when I say in my time,

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meaning it was, it was Nvidia

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that pulled it all together.

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The reason why we're so beloved

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in the video game industry

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and we're so deep in it still

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is beginning in a lot of ways

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we created the modern video game industry.

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From the algorithms associated with the

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the libraries, you know, the,

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in the computer graphics industry,

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without RTX there would be nothing today.

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Without our contribution of all the algorithms

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that goes into all of the game engines,

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you wouldn't be able to enjoy

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the type of video games

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you enjoy today.

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So Nvidia has been deep in the world

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of algorithms since day one,

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33 years ago.

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Now,

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accelerated computing requires

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what is described as a full stack,

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meaning the architecture,

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the chip design,

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the libraries that sit on top of it,

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how it's integrated forwardly,

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you know, I'm using the...

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apparently there's this new idea

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called forward deployed engineers

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or something like that.

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Nvidia's had dev tech engineers 33 years ago.

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We deployed them into

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the world's video game industries

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and video game companies

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and game engines,

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and we integrate our technology

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into their game engine.

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Today,

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if you look at Epic's Unreal Engine,

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Nvidia's technologies

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all over it.

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And,

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you go into every game

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developer Nvidia's technologies

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all over it.

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That's the reason

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why all the games

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run best on Nvidia.

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For good reason.

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That's the reason

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why Nvidia is the world's

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largest game platform.

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You probably don't know this,

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but there's several hundred million

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active GeForce gamers in the world.

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Many of them turned into AI researchers,

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is because of GeForce GTX 580 that

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you know, that,

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Ilya Sutskever and,

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Alex Krizhevsky and Jeff Hinton,

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it was Jeff that told him to go buy it,

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to discover CUDA.

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And so,

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the first idea about Nvidia

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is that we're a full stack company.

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The second idea about our company,

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and this is,

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you know, really old history that

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many people might not have been born yet,

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but during that time,

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the PC architecture was incompatible

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with today's

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computer graphics capabilities.

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And we created some new technology

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called Direct Nvidia.

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It was a way for applications

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to directly communicate with

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our APIs.

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And, we exposed it to

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some very important companies.

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It became DirectX .

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If you look at the way that we

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communicate between us

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and the application,

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that was completely

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revolutionary to bypass

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a whole bunch of software

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that makes it slow

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to make accelerated computing possible.

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We introduced the idea of virtualized

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frame buffer memory into system memory.

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It was initially called AGP,

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which then became PCI Express.

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Many of the system architecture

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had to be reinvented

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so that we could accommodate

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video games and 3D graphics in a PC.

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Well, that same sensibility of both

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innovating the full stack

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to be integrated into algorithms,

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as well as changing

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the architecture of systems

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so that we could create

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new computer systems,

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led to that same sensibility

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expertise led to DGX-1,

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which was the world's first

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AI supercomputer that delivered,

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you know, by hand to San Francisco

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here, and very close by to a company

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that eventually became OpenAI.

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And so the the fundamental attitude,

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if you will, expertise,

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how we see the world,

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propagated in this way.

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It's literally 33 years.

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The company's entire

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culture is designed to be full stack.

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The organization is designed

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to be full stack.

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The entire system is designed

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to create new stacks

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and new system architectures

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that allow us to do this.

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While we started with,

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of course,

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if you look at Nvidia's graphics cards,

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GeForce, it's a technology marvel.

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How it's integrated

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into the operating system,

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how it's integrated

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into the system architecture,

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completely reinvented

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how computers worked before.

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Well, we have no trouble with that

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with DGX-1.

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I've no trouble with that

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with the first supercomputing cluster,

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which then went to Satya,

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for their first supercomputer.

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And you might,

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you know, people noticed

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that Microsoft's first supercomputer

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and Nvidia's supercomputer had exactly

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the same benchmark, like down to the...

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you measure the performance of the system

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across all of these GPUs.

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That was about 10,000 GPUs or so.

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It was exactly the same performance

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and the reason for that

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is because we designed it

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and we delivered to to Azure Cloud,

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it was all based on

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InfiniBand, was all

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based on Ampere 8 - this is the A100,

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which became the first computer

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that OpenAI used.

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And so we're quite comfortable with this

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full stack, full system approach.

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And without being able to do that,

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it is impossible

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to stay at the bleeding edge.

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It is literally impossible

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to keep up with a company

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that's building

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not just one chip each year,

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but we're building

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an entire infrastructure each year

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because we own the CPU,

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we revolutionize

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the new way of designing CPUs.

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And you'll see

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more examples of that.

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We revolutionize the way we do CPUs,

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revolutionized the way we obviously do

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GPUs, connect them together

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using this thing called NVLink,

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which revolutionized

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the way you built computers all together.

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Connected together with a new type of

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AI Ethernet called Spectrum X.

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We connected everything together.

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Now we own the entire stack.

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We know all the chips inside.

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When you own the entire stack

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and you own all the chips inside,

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you could change it every single year.

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If you don't own the entire stack

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and you don't own other chips,

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it's hard to

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innovate every year.

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And the reason for that

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is because you're connecting

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too many cats and dogs,

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and there's too much innovation

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to pull together once a year

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if you can't control it

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because it's a full stack problem.

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So that's how we got here.

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It's amazing.

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in the last two years

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since you were here last

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and our board meeting,

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we've sort of gone

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from generative AI models to reasoning.

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And now agentic and Satya

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just finished a panel on the enterprise.

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And at the enterprise level,

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you know, we're working with Microsoft,

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the OpenAI, X AI, Gemini.

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The capabilities are extraordinary.

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What does it mean around

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the size of that enterprise market?

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How is it changing?

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And how is it going to be adopted?

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And how do you sort of

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see that playing out, over the years?

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Because it's a big,

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big topic of the company.

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Yeah. Really good.

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Literally in the last two years,

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we went through three

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inflection points in AI.

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The first inflection point,

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first of all, the technology

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sat there in plain sight for months.

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GPT-3 sat there in plain sight

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for months until somebody wrote

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essentially a wrapper around it

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and turned it into ChatGPT,

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turned it into an API.

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Made it available and

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easy to use by everybody.

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But the first inflection point

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was generative. As you mentioned,

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the ability to translate,

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convert information from one form

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to another form,

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and auto regressively generate tokens.

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And the second...

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But of course, the problem

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with generative AI

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is that it's prone to hallucinate.

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And the reason for that is because,

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not because there's something fundamentally

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wrong with the technology,

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not because

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it didn't learn all the right things,

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but because it's not grounded

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on contextual information.

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It's not grounded

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on relevant information.

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And so,

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the second thing that happened was O1

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and reasoning came about, but behind

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O1 is also grounding on research,

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grounding on truth.

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And, the ability to have to combine

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generative with semantic,

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we call it retrieval augmented generation.

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But basically conditional generation.

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Conditional generation,

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meaning that what you're about

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to generate depends on context

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and ground truth or whatever

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research or whatever it is.

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And so the second generation,

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introduced reasoning, self-reflection,

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the ability to self-correct,

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because sometimes

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what comes out of your mouth,

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you kind of wish

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you pull back and you go “oh”, you know,

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and so in the case of AI,

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it has the ability to do that in real time.

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And so,

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O1 became much more grounded

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and the information that was generated

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was more reliable.

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So what happened?

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What came out as a curiosity

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and incredible excitement,

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and the tech industry

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jumping on to it because we realized

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what's about to, what can happen

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the next phase of it,

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the usefulness of ChatGPT

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just skyrocketed.

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But the amount of tokens

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that it generated was much,

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much more than the first generation.

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Maybe, you know,

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A hundred times more tokens.

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The model was maybe ten times larger.

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So it's probably something

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like a thousand times more compute.

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So from from O1 over ChatGPT

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call it a thousand times.

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And then because it was so useful,

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maybe a million times more usage.

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Okay.

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So the combination of usage,

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and its usefulness,

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and groundedness, allows us to...

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we saw that next phase of growth.

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But in the end, what O1 did

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was it provided information

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essentially, a chatbot that was,

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much more, much more factual.

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It was informational.

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And of course, for many of us,

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we use it for research

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and we use it all the time,

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instead of searching,

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you know, our goal is in the search,

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our goal is to get answers.

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And so, ChatGPT gave us that.

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That was kind of the second

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inflection.

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The inflection that

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we're seeing here also sat in plain

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sight for quite a long time.

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And,

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it's basically the ability

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for AI to use files, access files

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and use tools.

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And so now it could reason,

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it could think,

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it could use tools,

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it could solve problems

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and it could do search,

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it could do planning. And so,

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probably the, the biggest

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phenomenon that's happening.

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And if you're paying attention to it,

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I’m sure you are, OpenClaw is

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probably the single most important

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release of software,

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you know, probably ever.

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And if you look at OpenClaw,

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and the adoption of it, you know,

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Linux took

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some 30 years to reach this level.

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OpenClaw in, what is it,

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three weeks, has now surpassed Linux.

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It is now the single most downloaded

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open source software in history.

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And it took three weeks.

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If you look at the line

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and even in semi log,

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this thing is straight up.

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It's vertical.

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It looks like the,

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it looks like the, the Y axis.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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Okay.

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It literally looks like the Y axis.

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And so what's happening now?

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You could give a problem statement,

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“Create”... start with the...

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the prompt goes “create.”

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You know, the last prompt,

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the way you kind of think about it,

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the last prompt was,

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what is? when is? who is? right?

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That's the last prompt.

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This prompt goes

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“create”, “do”, “build”, ”write”

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Does that make sense?

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So what's happened?

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The last prompt was queries.

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This prompt are actions, they're tasks.

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Do something for me,

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and you describe it as you know

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expressively as you like,

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as with a lot of intention,

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you know,

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and let it infer or very specific

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and it goes off and it just churns,

17:04

It just thinks it goes off.

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And it does research and it reads

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it reads a manual.

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If it has to use a tool,

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it's never used it before,

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it reads the manual of the tool.

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It goes off and studies

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what's on the web and it,

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you know, applies the tools

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and performs the task.

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Now, I just said, we went from one,

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you know, one generative prompt,

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one generative response to now one

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that is a thousand times more tokens

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and agents,

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we call them at the company “claws.”

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These “claws” are now consuming, what,

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a million times more tokens?

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They're running continuously in the background.

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We have a whole bunch of “claws”

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in the company,

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and, they're all continuously running,

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doing things for us, writing,

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developing tools, developing software.

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And so now the question is the implication,

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the amount of compute in our company,

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that we need is just got skyrocketed.

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The amount of compute

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every company needs is skyrocketing.

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So in that context,

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I think over the last few days,

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it's come out

18:10

certainly at Morgan Stanley as a user,

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maximum bullish on tokens,

18:14

maximum bullish on doing and creating.

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It does require the compute

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you just mentioned.

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And the question is around the financing

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and the CapEx around that to support

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that extraordinary large compute.

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How does it all get financed, as you see it,

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from a sort of top of the ecosystem?

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And how do the factory,

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AI factory economics

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play out and evolve?

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Yeah, so there's a couple of thoughts

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that's really important.

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Remember,

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I appreciate you using the word factory.

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You know, several years ago

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I described that

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these new these data centers,

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what people call data

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centers, is not for storing data

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as in a data center.

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They are producing tokens.

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And so, a facility, a plant

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with the fundamental purpose of

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of producing tokens is a factory.

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It's an AI factory

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and at the time people said, Jensen,

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that sounds so grungy.

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You know, it's clean and,

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but it produces tokens,

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and nobody likes to build data centers

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because,

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you know, who knows what,

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what kind of return

19:22

you're going to get on a data center.

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But everybody loves building factories.

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And the reason for that

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is because factories make money.

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And we now know

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for certain

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that these factories

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directly generate tokens

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and these tokens are monetizable.

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And the more compute you have,

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the more tokens you can produce.

19:42

The more tokens you produce,

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the greater your top line.

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We now know for certain.

19:48

We now know for certain that companies'

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revenues are directly correlated

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to compute.

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And we know that for a fact,

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It's no different than Mercedes

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being factory limited

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or any company being factory limited.

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And so if they had more compute

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in their factories,

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they will have higher revenues.

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If OpenAI right now

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had more compute,

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they will have higher revenues.

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And so, the first thought is that

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compute equals revenues.

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Now the big idea of course is

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compute equals GDP.

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That we also know compute equals

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a country's GDP.

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And so that's one thought.

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The second thought,

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the reason why Nvidia is so successful

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is because we engineered these systems

20:31

full stack end to end,

20:33

and they're architected

20:34

from the ground up to generate tokens

20:36

at incredible effectiveness.

20:39

Nvidia's tokens per watt

20:42

is an order of magnitude,

20:46

an order of magnitude

20:49

ahead of the competition.

20:50

Alternative. Tokens per watt.

20:53

Now, what does that mean?

20:54

Remember, your factory has one gigawatt,

20:58

and if your tokens per watt

21:01

is ten times the alternative,

21:03

your revenues are ten times

21:04

the alternative.

21:07

For the very first time in history,

21:11

the computer architecture chosen

21:13

in a factory, in a company's factory

21:17

must go through CEO review.

21:22

No question about it.

21:24

That company only has a gigawatt

21:26

or 2.3 gigawatts for next year.

21:29

If they put the wrong system inside,

21:31

it will affect their revenues

21:33

the next year.

21:33

I promise you that.

21:34

And we see it.

21:37

And so our architecture

21:39

being so advanced now

21:40

and pulling further

21:41

and further ahead,

21:42

you know, those are probably one

21:44

of the most exhaustive

21:45

benchmarking done,

21:46

is by a firm called Semi Analysis.

21:49

And they declared,

21:50

they declared Nvidia inference king,

21:53

inference king. Inference

21:54

as tokens per second, tokens per watt.

21:56

It's about generating tokens

21:58

and tokens per dollar.

21:59

When our performance per watt or per

22:03

anything is so much ahead

22:05

of the competition or the alternative.

22:07

Our tokens per dollar is also the best,

22:10

which means we're the cheapest tokens

22:11

you can produce today

22:13

not even close

22:14

an order of magnitude better

22:16

and so that's the second thought.

22:18

The second big idea for AI

22:21

is AI is a factory,

22:23

because factories are

22:24

power limited always.

22:26

It doesn't matter

22:26

how many plants you have,

22:28

each plant is still 100 megawatts or gigawatt

22:30

and therefore tokens per watt

22:32

is the single most important thing

22:34

for the top line of companies.

22:37

And they have to make those decisions

22:40

very, very carefully.

22:42

You know, it's no longer

22:43

just about PowerPoint slides.

22:44

You're not going to go put $50 billion

22:46

down on some of these PowerPoint slides.

22:49

So the token demand is extraordinary,

22:51

as you just mentioned,

22:52

you're seeing it in your numbers.

22:54

Right?

22:54

I think I mentioned

22:55

$46 billion in net income.

22:57

But $70 billion.

22:58

if you were going to ask me something

22:59

about how to fund it,

23:01

can I just tell you how to fund it?

23:02

First of all,

23:05

I just told you.

23:06

I just told you,

23:09

the reason why you have to build these

23:11

factories in the future

23:12

is because you either

23:14

you just believe

23:15

that one, software is important.

23:17

And so I hope this audience

23:19

believes software is important.

23:20

Software runs the world.

23:21

First thought.

23:22

The second idea is this:

23:24

there will be no software in the future

23:26

that's not agentic.

23:28

Do you guys agree with that?

23:30

How could you have software that's dumb.

23:33

And so it is absolutely true

23:35

that every software company

23:37

will become an agentic company.

23:40

They're going to simultaneously use,

23:44

open models.

23:45

Okay.

23:46

Open models

23:47

meaning the ones that they

23:48

download themselves

23:49

and they fine tune themselves.

23:50

They're also going to use closed models.

23:52

The combination of all that, just like we

23:55

in all of our companies,

23:56

we have employees that we hire,

23:58

we have employees that we're grooming.

24:00

we have contractors that we bring in.

24:02

We have specialists like yourself

24:03

that we bring in to the company

24:05

just to do our work.

24:06

Our job is not to do the job.

24:08

Our job is to have the job be done.

24:12

That's what every company does.

24:13

And so therefore every company

24:15

will realize that

24:15

these AI models, some of it you rent,

24:18

some of it you build.

24:19

That's not illogical,

24:21

just like biological workers,

24:23

you will do that with digital workers.

24:25

And so every single software

24:27

company in the future

24:28

will no longer just rent tools,

24:31

but they'll rent also

24:33

experts to use the tools.

24:37

They'll not just rent tools,

24:38

but rent experts that use those tools

24:41

because their agents

24:42

are going to be extremely good

24:44

at using their specialized tools.

24:48

And so every single software company -

24:50

the IT industry is a couple trillion dollars?

24:53

- today they're tool renters in the future,

24:57

they will of course have,

25:00

they'll rent agents that use those tools,

25:02

which means that the software industry

25:06

in the future

25:06

will be much larger

25:08

than the software industry of today.

25:10

You pick your favorite software companies,

25:11

and I can imagine a much, much larger

25:14

future for them.

25:15

Cadence is going to be much larger.

25:17

Synopsis is going to be much larger.

25:19

Siemens is going to be much larger

25:20

in the future,

25:21

but their business profile will change

25:23

because today

25:25

they're basically a software

25:26

licensing company.

25:27

In the future,

25:29

they will also rent tokens,

25:31

specialized tokens,

25:32

which also means

25:34

that that $2 trillion industry

25:35

today with no token consumption

25:37

in the future

25:38

will be extraordinary token consumers.

25:42

That's where that money

25:42

is going to come from.

25:44

They're all of those software industry, IT

25:46

industry of today,

25:47

not the enterprise

25:48

companies, the

25:48

IT industry alone

25:50

is going to shift an enormous...

25:52

it is going to consume

25:54

enormous amounts of tokens in the clouds.

25:57

And they're either open models or...

26:00

So that extraordinary token economy

26:02

is facing some constraints.

26:04

So we've got memory constraints.

26:06

We've got power permitting constraints.

26:09

I was in Texas with builders.

26:11

We have electrician constraints.

26:13

How do you see that playing out?

26:15

Satya raised it in the last session.

26:17

You're closer to it.

26:18

And also if it takes a little longer,

26:21

is it still okay

26:22

or is it really negative if we just

26:24

if the if the cycle on

26:26

building this extraordinary.

26:27

I love constraints. I love constraints.

26:30

And the reason for that

26:30

is because in a world of constraint,

26:32

you have no choice

26:33

but to choose the best.

26:35

You can't squander your choice

26:38

if the data centers,

26:39

if the land power and shell is constrained,

26:41

you're not going to randomly

26:43

put something in there

26:45

just to try it out,

26:48

you're going to put something

26:49

that you know for certain

26:50

is going to deliver the tokens per watt

26:52

that you know for certain

26:54

is going to allow you from the moment you

26:56

you secure the capacity,

26:58

we're going to be able

26:59

to stand up an entire factory for you,

27:01

we are the only company in the world

27:02

that can come into your company

27:03

and help you stand up

27:04

an entire AI factory, you know, so

27:06

anybody here that needs an AI factory

27:08

and you need, you know, I'm happy to help.

27:13

You call one person,

27:14

and now one person comes in

27:15

and next thing you know,

27:16

you're in the AI factory business, okay?

27:19

And so we have the expertise.

27:23

We know the architecture works.

27:24

We know there's enormous demand

27:25

for the architecture.

27:27

You know,

27:27

after you're done standing it up

27:28

so we can help you get into business.

27:30

And so when you're constrained that way,

27:32

you have no choice

27:34

but to make the best choice,

27:37

because your

27:37

revenues next

27:38

year is directly correlated to it.

27:41

And this is one of those questions

27:42

now for all the CEOs

27:44

that are in the clouds,

27:45

that are cloud service

27:46

providers or software providers.

27:48

If they make poor choices,

27:50

this is no different than me

27:51

choosing the wrong foundry.

27:53

This is no different than me choosing,

27:54

you know,

27:57

the wrong memory, the wrong anything.

27:59

Because I have so little...

28:02

everything is so constrained.

28:04

If I choose poorly,

28:06

my revenues are affected,

28:08

everything is affected.

28:09

And so they can't choose,

28:11

they can't choose poorly.

28:12

The second thing is,

28:13

you know, Nvidia is,

28:14

as you mentioned,

28:15

working at such a large scale,

28:18

our supply chain,

28:19

one of the things

28:20

that we do with our money, of course,

28:22

is to secure our supply chain.

28:24

One of the things that we do with

28:25

our capital is to secure our supply chain,

28:27

so that

28:28

when Satya asked me to help him

28:30

stand up a few gigawatts,

28:32

the answer is no problem.

28:35

And the reason for that is

28:35

I got all the memories,

28:36

I got all the wafers,

28:37

I got all the CoWoS,

28:38

I got all the packaging,

28:39

I got all the systems,

28:41

I've got all of the connectors,

28:42

I got all the cables,

28:43

you know, everything from copper

28:45

to multilayer ceramic capacitors,

28:48

everything is secured.

28:50

That's one of the reasons why Nvidia's

28:52

balance sheet

28:53

being strong is so strategic.

28:56

A strong balance sheet

28:57

today is not only helpful,

28:59

it's strategic.

29:01

And so you look at the amount of revenues

29:04

we're shipping into.

29:05

Just look backwards

29:06

and look at the amount of

29:10

supply chain capacity

29:11

we had to go secure

29:13

or that they have to believe,

29:15

you know, if you set up a factory,

29:18

a plant, a DRAM plant,

29:20

and I come in and say, you know what,

29:21

go ahead and set up the DRAM plant

29:22

because I'm going to use it.

29:24

That goes a long ways.

29:27

You might as well take that to the bank

29:29

as many of them have.

29:30

And so,

29:32

and so I think the,

29:35

the fact that everything is scarce

29:37

is fantastic for us.

29:40

And I think it does create duration,

29:42

which I think is extraordinarily

29:43

powerful for you.

29:45

I think just another layer,

29:46

which is the ecosystem.

29:48

You're one of the great

29:49

you are the greatest cash flow

29:51

generating company in history.

29:53

And then you've taken that capital

29:55

and really created,

29:56

it feels like

29:57

stability, diversity in the ecosystem.

30:01

And so how do you think about that

30:03

in both a financial

30:04

and a strategic context as you build?

30:07

I think both duration and durability

30:09

in the entire ecosystem.

30:12

Yeah.

30:13

You know, when Mark took me public,

30:17

I think

30:19

it was probably, you know, a little bit

30:21

less energetic than I was

30:23

delivering it just now.

30:25

But I am fairly certain

30:26

I said all the same things.

30:29

Nvidia has been building.

30:30

Remember, accelerated

30:31

computing requires

30:32

that I build an ecosystem.

30:34

You can't just take code and C-compile it

30:38

and it works.

30:39

There's no such thing

30:40

as a universal

30:42

accelerated computing system.

30:44

Accelerated computing is,

30:45

by definition, proprietary.

30:48

There is nothing about our architecture

30:50

that is compatible with somebody else's.

30:52

It's just not.

30:53

The instruction set is different.

30:54

The architecture is different.

30:55

The micro architecture is different.

30:56

Everything is different.

30:57

And so we hide it underneath,

31:00

you know, these things

31:01

in such a way that that makes

31:03

it makes you feel like.

31:04

And because of Nvidia

31:06

we accelerate everything

31:07

from data processing,

31:09

molecular dynamics, fluid dynamics,

31:11

particle systems,

31:12

you know, biology, chemicals, you know,

31:15

all the way to deep learning, right?

31:16

Robotics,

31:17

you know, long sequence, spatial 3D,

31:21

you name it, right.

31:21

It sounds like a five-layer cake,

31:22

sounds like a five-layer cake.

31:24

It's a five-layer cake, right? Exactly.

31:26

But because we've been working on it

31:28

so long,

31:28

it looks like everything's accelerated.

31:31

But it's not true.

31:32

It's because I did it one

31:33

at a time, one domain at a time,

31:35

that all of the important

31:36

domains in the world

31:37

are now fully accelerated.

31:38

And so the thing that we do

31:40

on the supply chain side,

31:42

our balance sheet is incredibly valuable

31:44

because it provides security

31:46

for our customers.

31:48

On the upstream side,

31:50

I’m cultivating new ecosystems

31:52

for the future.

31:54

All these AI natives

31:55

that I'm investing in,

31:56

the companies are partnering with,

31:59

these are expanding,

32:01

extending the CUDA ecosystem.

32:04

100% of everything that we do

32:07

is on top of CUDA.

32:09

Every investment that we've made

32:11

is on top of CUDA.

32:13

So recently

32:13

there was a question about,

32:16

are we going to invest

32:17

$100 billion in OpenAI?

32:19

We just... just for everybody's

32:22

update.

32:23

We finalized our agreement.

32:26

We're going to invest

32:26

$30 billion in OpenAI.

32:30

I think the opportunity to invest $100

32:32

billion in OpenAI is probably

32:35

not in the cards.

32:37

And the reason for that is

32:38

because they're going to go public.

32:39

And so I'm fairly

32:40

sure that if we provide the capacity

32:43

they need,

32:44

which the compute capacity

32:45

they need, which

32:46

we're ramping up hard to go do,

32:48

the revenues will more than follow

32:55

and they're going to go public

32:56

towards the end of the year.

32:57

And so

32:58

this might be the last time

32:59

we'll have the opportunity

33:00

to invest in a consequential,

33:02

you know, in a company like this.

33:03

And speaking of that,

33:05

one of the things that I wanted

33:06

to make sure I told you guys at this time

33:08

and something new

33:09

that you probably haven't internalized,

33:11

you see all the news,

33:13

you probably have internalized,

33:14

some of the

33:15

the really great work

33:16

that we did last year,

33:18

the last year and a half or so,

33:20

last year or so,

33:22

we expanded,

33:24

we expanded,

33:27

OpenAI's capacity

33:29

from Azure

33:32

to OCI

33:34

to now AWS.

33:37

We expanded

33:39

OpenAI's reach of capacity to AWS.

33:42

We're ramping AWS like mad.

33:47

We're ramping them as hard as we can

33:49

so that OpenAI has access

33:52

to even more capacity.

33:53

But the amount of capacity

33:55

that we're going to bring online

33:56

for them, you know, supporting,

33:59

supporting their revenues,

34:00

their quality of revenues are so good.

34:03

We just need a lot more capacity

34:04

for them.

34:04

So I think that

34:05

this is something

34:07

that is somewhat new.

34:09

And of course,

34:10

the third thing that happened

34:12

is a brand new

34:13

AI lab flashed into the world.

34:15

Isn't that right?

34:16

I don't know, we just mentioned them.

34:18

A brand new lab came into the world,

34:20

and they're in a need

34:21

a few million GPUs, and that's MSL.

34:25

And so the MSL is a net

34:27

new on top of Meta.

34:29

So we've we've worked with Meta

34:30

a long time.

34:31

MSL is a net new on top of Meta.

34:33

And so,

34:35

our demand profile, went from

34:38

being incredibly high

34:40

to higher than that.

34:44

Speaking of,

34:47

speaking more than that,

34:49

there's Waymos everywhere.

34:51

I want to walk my new dog with the

34:53

my new robot, physical AI

34:54

could be the next place.

34:57

How does that take TAM and tokens

35:00

to a whole other level at Nvidia?

35:01

Yeah, that's really great.

35:03

That's really great.

35:03

AI is all the stuff

35:04

that we're doing inside the building.

35:06

But obviously,

35:07

obviously, ultimately

35:08

the largest industries

35:10

are outside the building.

35:11

And that AI needs to be, needs

35:15

to have,

35:15

physical awareness,

35:16

physical understanding,

35:18

you know, causality.

35:19

You push a bottle,

35:20

it falls over and understands

35:21

gravity, understands collision,

35:23

you know, understands inertia.

35:25

Understand those two things, okay.

35:26

And, understand,

35:28

for example, object permanence.

35:30

Yeah.

35:30

I take this and I put it behind my chair

35:33

in your mind, you can't see it,

35:35

but you realize it hasn't disappeared.

35:37

Okay, so object permanence thing,

35:38

things like that, that affects,

35:41

physical behavior and

35:42

physical intelligence,

35:44

you know, fairly importantly.

35:46

And so,

35:47

you probably also don't know this,

35:51

that Nvidia

35:52

is the frontier of physical AI.

35:54

Cosmos is the most downloaded physical

35:57

AI model in the world.

35:59

Nvidia is also the frontier

36:02

of autonomous AI.

36:04

Two versions.

36:04

Autonomous vehicle called Alpamayo.

36:06

Look it up. Number one downloaded,

36:08

and then the next one, Gr00t.

36:10

Human or robotics physical AI.

36:12

We are at the frontier

36:13

on all three of those.

36:15

We're also at the frontier

36:16

of digital biology AI.

36:18

Look up La-Proteina

36:20

incredibly successful,

36:22

La-Proteina for digital biology.

36:24

There's a whole bunch of other models

36:26

Gr00t, N2, is now the number one

36:29

most downloaded

36:31

human robotics model in the world.

36:33

And so we are at the frontier

36:35

of physical AI.

36:38

Physics, laws of physics, multi physics.

36:41

Earth-2.

36:42

We're at the frontier of

36:44

physical AI, that is physical AI and AI physics

36:49

and so this whole area of physical AI

36:52

Nvidia defines the frontier.

36:55

It is completely open.

36:57

We open it because we want to enable

37:00

every company,

37:03

new or old industry to be able

37:06

to take advantage of this capability.

37:08

And we've got the whole stack

37:09

and the necessary computers for you to

37:12

advance the AI for your own use,

37:16

as well as deploy it, inside a robot,

37:19

inside a plant, at the edge,

37:22

at a radio tower,

37:24

deploy it everywhere.

37:24

This is the next frontier.

37:26

In two years time,

37:27

we're going to be

37:29

largely done talking about agentic AI,

37:31

because we're all going to be using it.

37:33

In two years time,

37:34

if you invite me back again...

37:36

Every year. Every year Jensen.

37:38

We're going to be talking

37:39

about all these new companies.

37:40

Of course, we announced

37:42

a very important one,

37:43

a co-innovation lab with Lilly.

37:46

There'll be others, but,

37:48

you know this in order to set up

37:51

Lilly's AI factory,

37:52

unless you are,

37:53

unless you have the capabilities

37:54

of Nvidia and the full software stack

37:56

and the capabilities

37:57

of all the model

37:58

and the expertise

37:59

in that digital biology domain,

38:01

how would you even do it?

38:03

And so,

38:04

the things that we are building

38:06

in the next couple of years, you'll see,

38:09

really come to the fore.

38:10

And, we're going to

38:11

be talking about physical AI for,

38:13

you know, starting

38:14

next couple of 2 or 3 years

38:15

and for a decade.

38:16

So the speed of innovation

38:18

and the pace that you're operating in

38:20

is truly extraordinary.

38:21

So at the beginning of the week,

38:23

my partner Joe Moore made Nvidia

38:26

his number one pick. -Is that right?

38:28

It's his number one pick. Thank you.

38:31

Thank you, thank you.

38:33

Good timing Joe.

38:34

33 years later.

38:42

How do you think about the stock?

38:43

Do you think about the stock?

38:45

Do you have perspectives on it?

38:48

You're so extraordinarily important

38:50

and busy around

38:51

driving all this innovation

38:52

for, in essence,

38:54

everything that's going on

38:55

with 3500 attendees

38:57

and we had $40 trillion of market cap here.

39:01

How do you think about that?

39:04

Well, you know,

39:05

of course I care about the stock.

39:06

I care about shareholders, I care about

39:08

I care about our employees.

39:09

I care about all of you.

39:14

And you might be referring to,

39:16

we just had the best earnings

39:18

in the history of earnings.

39:20

Is that what you were saying?

39:23

I mean, somebody actually told me

39:25

that this might be the single best print

39:28

in the history of humanity.

39:31

And I said it must be only

39:34

you know, recorded humanity.

39:35

I'm sure somebody had better returns.

39:39

But anyways,

39:40

we had a very good quarter.

39:43

Listen,

39:44

you can't hold the stock back.

39:46

You can't hold it back.

39:48

And the reason for that is very simple.

39:51

Compute equals revenues for companies.

39:54

In the future,

39:55

every single company

39:56

will need compute for revenues.

39:58

I'll just make that prediction for now.

40:00

Every single company

40:01

will need compute for revenues.

40:03

And the reason for that

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is because compute translates

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to intelligence, which translates

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to your digital workforce,

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which translates to your revenues.

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I'm certain compute equals revenues.

40:16

I'm certain also that compute equals GDP.

40:19

Therefore every country will have it

40:20

because not one country in the future

40:22

will say, guess what?

40:23

You know,

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we're going to opt out on own

40:25

intelligence.

40:27

We've got...

40:29

I don't know what we got,

40:30

but we don't need intelligence.

40:32

That's the one thing we don't need. Okay.

40:35

And so if you need intelligence

40:36

you're going to need digital.

40:38

You need AI, you going to need compute.

40:40

And so compute equals GDP.

40:42

I know that for certain.

40:43

I also know that we're at the beginning

40:45

of this journey.

40:47

And I see crystal clearly

40:49

exactly how it's going to get funded.

40:52

We know for a fact that all the CSPs

40:55

took all of their CapEx

40:57

and they converted it to

40:58

generative agentic systems, AI systems,

41:01

because it helps search,

41:04

because it helps shopping,

41:05

because it helps ads,

41:07

because it helps social,

41:09

because it helps

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literally every single internet

41:12

service in the world

41:13

has been reinvented into generative AI.

41:16

So they could take 100%,

41:18

the entire internet industry

41:20

could take 100% of their CapEx

41:22

and make it AI because it's better,

41:24

we've proven it to be better.

41:26

Meta has proven to be better.

41:27

Google has proven to be better.

41:29

AWS has proven to be better.

41:30

And so you can now take your CapEx

41:33

and convert to this.

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Number two,

41:34

I just said the entire software

41:36

industry will be token driven,

41:39

the entire software industry.

41:40

You pick your favorite software company,

41:42

and I can show you

41:44

exactly how they're going

41:45

to be token driven.

41:46

And that token,

41:50

you take your favorite,

41:51

you know, software company, their token,

41:54

will be either produced by themselves,

41:56

which needs compute,

41:58

or they could be resold

42:01

and that needs compute.

42:03

And so what that says

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for the first time is the entire

42:05

IT industry

42:06

will have to be fueled by compute.

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That's exactly where all this is going to

42:11

come from, trillions of dollars of it.

42:13

And we're at the beginning of that.

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So that's my prediction.

42:16

Thank you, Jensen,

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for making history at this conference

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27 years.

42:20

Thank you.

Interactive Summary

In this discussion, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang reflects on the company's 33-year journey, its transition from a niche graphics hardware provider to a foundational pillar of the AI era, and the company's full-stack strategy. Huang explains the shift from traditional computing to AI-driven token generation, framing AI data centers as 'factories' that directly correlate compute power to revenue and GDP. He also highlights the next major frontiers, particularly physical AI and autonomous systems, while emphasizing the enduring importance of accelerated computing and the Nvidia software ecosystem.

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